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Skins At The Senior Bowl/Fassel

Most of the Skins coaching staff is in Mobile at the Senior Bowl. Vinny Cerrato was supposed ot be there too, but I hear he cancelled at the last minute because of the prolonged coaching search.

Again, if you put a gun to my head and made me guess about the mystery candidate, I'd say Fassel. He's the only name I mentioned that Friday night when the first mystery meeting took place. I can't get it confimred, but I heard Snyder's plane might be returning back to Scottsdale tonight, which just happens to be where Fassel lives.

I do know Fassel was supposed to be driving his rental car back to Milwaukee today to take a commercial flight back to Arizona, and he may have jumped Redskins One to Chateau Snyder instead.

Again, can't get it confirmed but the name I kept hearing today was Fassel. He has a history with developing QBs like Elway and Simms, but bombed with Boller and the Ravens. Could be talking to him about coordinator-type positions as well, given that numerous league sources have told me that Snyder and Cerrato are down on Al Saunders. Faslle interviewed withthe Chiefs a week ago for their OC opening, but did not get it.

Anyway, Gregg Williams, Greg Blache and Joe Bugel are among the Redskins coaches not at the Senior Bowl, according to sources, which is not unusual. Joe Gibbs remains around Redskins Park, as he is expected to until they finish this transition, but is not taking part in the interviews

Numerous league sources have said the Redskins have not asked the Packers for permission to interview any of their coaches. The Redskins can not interview any Pats or GIants coaches until after the Super Bowl,as they did not make a previous initial attempt to speak to any of them. So they'd have to wait to more weeks to even talk to them. Some aroudn the league believe the Skins were banking on a Giants loss, allowing them to interview Dc Steve Spagnuolo today, but the G-men pulled another upset. Spagnuolo might end up getting a good look from Atlanta should they opt to continue their search into it's second decade (okay, it just seems that long)

By Jason La Canfora |  January 21, 2008; 8:55 PM ET
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that makes sense. they've already offered the job to williams and now looking for the offensive side of the ball.

Posted by: dealer | January 21, 2008 9:12 PM

JLC for pres!

Posted by: jedpwhite | January 21, 2008 9:12 PM

First and..........Fassel? A week for him? Old, tired, Giants retread. If HE is the mystery candidate, may we look forward to his eventual firing. Guy can't even get an OC job.

Posted by: duh2mag | January 21, 2008 9:13 PM

Oh for poopy's sake!

Here is the post I am reposting from last thread. It's my "grand re-entrance" to RI.
I took a break. I needed one. I was so sick day of the Seattle shenanigans that I had to TiVo the game. I took that as a sign I needed to step away.

That being said I'm back.

Here is what I have to say:

PICK A FLINGING FLANGING COACH ALREADY!!

If it ain't ManBoobs than we need to make that move now so new guy can clean house if he wants and bring in his own peeps and get the players on board etc etc. We don't have time to willy around.

If it is ManBoobs than why all this crap?


Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:14 PM

All that being said.

Jim Fassel? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Talk about namby pamby mystery candidate.

Oh and I hope friggin gints say thanks to us if they win the SB.

(I'm sure I'm not saying anything original.)

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:16 PM

Wow, I get the place of honor right behind sfskin... now if Sallie Mae could top the cload sandwich with a hug?!

Posted by: daggar | January 21, 2008 9:17 PM

Why can't we just have a nice old rich owner who stays in the background and lets a football person run the team?

Posted by: david | January 21, 2008 9:19 PM

On a completely random side note I'm watching the debate right now (promise no political talk) and want to know who exactly comes up with names for pharmaceuticals?

"Abilify" - a drug for bipolar mania - and what the he!! is bipolar mania? Is that different from bipolar disorder?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:21 PM

diddy, if you're still reading this...stay thru the credits and listen carefully

Posted by: dealer | January 21, 2008 9:23 PM

Bipolar mania! It sweeps the nation, then withdraws, brooding, then sweeps the nation again!


Welcome back, sfskin! You have been missed.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 21, 2008 9:26 PM

Thanks Nate! LOL on your bipolar mania defnintion.

I looked it up and it appears bipolar mania is the "high" part of bipolar disorder rather than the low depressive part. Ugh what a horrible disease and I take my hat off to any who live with it either themselves or in their family.

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:34 PM

"Snyder and Cerrato are down on Al Saunders" ---Oh, right -- like either of those 2 bozos knows anything about evaluating football talent --- Saunders has more football talent in his little finger than these 2 dodos combined, plus you can throw in the rest of the front office as well -- look for mediocrity from the skins for at least the next decade

Posted by: bestmick1 | January 21, 2008 9:35 PM

The danny better get this right and right quick...i 'll give him and all the come to RI something to ponder this offseason.....We play in a divison that has the Team that had home field throughout in the NFC and Now we have the team that is representing the NFC in the Super bowl and the team that finshed just behind us always does a good job in finding and developing talent and thier probowl QB is likely to begin this season at 100% health.....think about all that as you make this choice because a misstep here and well there just is no room for error....Bradshaw from the g-men is a real player the kind of difference maker i wish we could find .....to add insult to our inept ability to find good players....the giants seven draft picks from this year are all major contributors....read that again all seven...and greenbay's very good looking RB was drafted by the G-men last year...hope Anthony Mix works for us....If and I say if eli plays with this much confidence....you think the cowboys are talented...we have more than them to worry about....having said all that if I hear another person rush to defend the likes of cartwright or thrash or caldwell or any number of other very likeable old pro's on our team, i will be convinced that person can't see with thier eyes what a talented NFL player looks like...root for the uniforms.....if you are staying the same you're going backwards......

Posted by: Oldschool | January 21, 2008 9:37 PM

This is what Peter King wrote about Fassell in his column listing the ten best candidates for head coach:

Jim Fassel (54), not coaching. I'm a bit mystified why he never got a second head-coaching chance after taking over a bad team in New York and leading the Giants, unexpectedly, to the Super Bowl in 2000. He was five games over .500 in his seven New York seasons. The one thing so many teams are looking for is a coach who can work with young quarterbacks and fix slumping ones, and that's Fassel's forte. "Jim was the key to me coming back and playing well," said Kerry Collins, the battered QB who quarterbacked the Giants to the NFC title in 2000.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 21, 2008 9:37 PM

Some quick questions:
1. What is the real deadline for picking a coach? I presume they will wait to re-cap salaries until the new coach/staff is in place, but that's a March 1 deadline, right? Is there any capology benefit to renegotiating in Jan/Feb? I also know that most hamsters will blow a gasket if the new coach isn't named yesterday.
2. Is the Flapjacks/Cowher/Grimm/Meeks/Schwartz/Carroll /Schottenheimer list really the best we can do? If so, a good coach is a rare commodity indeed.
3. I believe the skins can interview anyone -- even a Giants or Pats coach -- during this week. Is that correct? I'd really like to talk to McDaniels, not so much about becoming the head coach as much as how to run an offense.

Posted by: daggar | January 21, 2008 9:38 PM

PS: the only thing wrong with Al Saunders was Joe Gibbs

Posted by: bestmick1 | January 21, 2008 9:42 PM

TE - If Fassel is good with QBs good for him but I'm not sure it's enough to be an HC.

My feeling is either we go with ManBoobs (very ambivalent about that although I'll trust the players) or go for someone who is young and is going to be here at least 5 years.

Cerrato - can he go away already please? Anyone know how we can professionally/metaphorically horse head him?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:43 PM

Fassel? He got fired by Billick in flippin' Baltimore!

And why in the world would Snyder & Cerrato not like Al Saunders??? His offense was proven before he came to the Skins and was beginning to catch on here. Our young QB desperately wants Saunders to remain and also Todd Collins (who kinda saved the season) will definitely leave if Saunders is sacked.

I'm so mad I'm about to become the female version of Ricky Bobby!

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 21, 2008 9:46 PM

If Fassel is a potential OC and GWilliams is the HC, then why not announce the HC position and release a press report stating that work is being done on consolidating the offensive coaching staff positions? It must be something more Snyder-ish.

Posted by: skins.sox01 | January 21, 2008 9:46 PM

Leave the gun. Take the cannolis.

A great US American movie!


Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:46 PM

sfskin--I'm not touting Fassell, Peter King is. But if they're looking to replace Saunders, he might make sense. And no, Vinny can't go away. He's as much a part of the 'Skins as the owner is.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 21, 2008 9:46 PM

Why in the h-e-double hockey sticks would you make GW HC and then get rid of Al Saunders? WHY? WHY? WHY?

Unless GW has some major issue with Saunders it makes NO sense.

Is the Danny really trying to be just like Jerry Jones?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:48 PM

Tony Orlando is still alive? Who knew?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 9:50 PM

Lisa,

And Williams got fired in flippin' Buffalo. So what? Coaches get fired, including great ones like Belichick.

They might not like Saunders because the Redskins offense finished in the middle of the pack this year. It was not particularly distinguished. They might think the 'Skins would have done better if they had someone other than Saunders. Saunders has not delivered here like he did in Kansas City.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 21, 2008 9:51 PM

Is the Danny really trying to be just like Jerry Jones?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 09:48 PM

Remember the reason that he fired Marty was because Marty wouldn't change his offensive coordinator. So, yeah, he is a micromanager.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 21, 2008 9:53 PM

Jones, with precisely zero NFL experience, arrogated to himself the GM title. Snyder, for all his faults, hasn't done that... yet.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 21, 2008 9:57 PM

Double GG will be named head coach, Fassel OC, sorry but good-bye Al

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | January 21, 2008 9:59 PM

One thing we've learned is that Danny needs a guy he perceives as a "football guy" always at his right hand, or foot. This is like having a yes man with a pedigree, however dubious the pedigree.

1.0 = Pepper Rodgers
2.0 (incumbent) = Vincent Alfredo Cerrato

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 21, 2008 10:01 PM

saunders offense is proven..... but you need some players who can make the plays to make it work no differnt than any other Offense ....we need a play maker at WR to make Moss better and we need a heathly O line and most of all we needed a big step up from the QB.....

Posted by: Oldschool | January 21, 2008 10:03 PM

If Saunders leaves and Collins leaves (afterall no reason to keep him) does that mean MB is our back-up again? Ugh.

The good news is we have most of our draft picks . . . right? Did something happen while I was off pretending I didn't care about football?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 10:03 PM

Tony Orlando is still alive? Who knew?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 09:50 PM


What about Dawn??

( I know , I know, people...Dawn was not one woman...just makin' a joke while we all wait for the smoke to appear from the Vatican )

Posted by: cej75024 | January 21, 2008 10:04 PM

Well done JLC you've finally worked it out............it only took 10 days.


I hope you feel so proud of yourself.


Where's Mark Maske when you need him.

Posted by: rlarge | January 21, 2008 10:05 PM

Tony is still alive and has lost 100lbs on nutri-systems

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | January 21, 2008 10:08 PM

TE, the reason Saunders has not delivered here like he did in KC is because he was hampered by Gibbs! You all know how much I respect Gibbs - and I'm broken hearted he has resigned - but he would not turn Saunders loose with the playcalling until Jason got hurt. Our offense picked up once Collins came in and Gibbs let go.

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 21, 2008 10:08 PM

1. Marty was fired because he wouldn't relinquish the "total control" clause in his contract.
2. There is a reason to keep Collins --- he's the best QB we have (sad to say)
3. Saunders offense is proven --- without Joe Gibbs

Posted by: bestmick1 | January 21, 2008 10:14 PM

Well since I brought Tony Orlando up here is a gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OnL7whDaC4

Isn't youtube the best!?!

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 10:15 PM

Well since I brought Tony Orlando up here is a gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OnL7whDaC4

Isn't youtube the best!?!

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 10:15 PM

Sorry I think you'll all want me to go away now. I've opened my own can of worms and I'm delving through them.

Here's another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVLJcBsD__E

I LOVED this show as a kid. What great acting and special effects!

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 10:20 PM

2. There is a reason to keep Collins --- he's the best QB we have (sad to say)

Posted by: bestmick1 | January 21, 2008 10:14 PM


Just seems funny to me that after 5 games, the whole town is ready to put Collins on the Mt. Rushmore of QB's. Let's not forget that he had the full compliment of players....healthy, Santana, Randel-El, Portis, etc. Jason was stuck trying to make his way with James Thrash and Keenan McCardell.

Let's not give up on JC yet !! Why are we son quick to rush to judgement on him?

Posted by: cej75024 | January 21, 2008 10:22 PM

By the way, any idea where I can find this Mt. Rushmore of QB's?? Might be a fun daytrip.

Posted by: cej75024 | January 21, 2008 10:23 PM

If Williams is the guy I really do not understand why they would wanna replace Saunders unless Williams has some problem with the guy. It makes no sense to give Saunders only 2 years all the while having Gibbs in his ear about the gameplan and bad (Brunell) and inexperienced (JC) QB's learning his system. Looked pretty good when Collins was in there, Campbell needs to step his game up in '08.

Hiring Fassel is a definite step back in my opinion.

Posted by: cdubb | January 21, 2008 10:26 PM

Don't tell me people are calling for Soups to be benched?

I agree with cej - Collins had a full compliment of healthy guys and I don't think Soups was 100% for last 3 games or so.

Soups deserves a full season healthy with a healthy offense or close to it.

At some point we're going to have to have a young QB who goes through growing pains.

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2008 10:32 PM

welcome back sfskin,

Just an update for you... I appreciate the nod by continuing to call GG "Manboobs" but I am saddened to inform you that the name "Flapjacks" has taken over the blogosphere.

Posted by: Dorf | January 21, 2008 10:34 PM

Sfskin, I'm definitely not calling for Jason Campbell to be benched...he is our future and should be our starter. However, it would be GREAT to keep Todd Collins as backup and he will only be here if Saunders is here.

Gibbs said the day after we lost to Seattle (and the day before he resigned) that keeping Todd Collins was major. Can Snyder really be so dumb as to bring in a new OC which will further hinder our young QB and also lose our backup as well?

Posted by: Lisa_R | January 21, 2008 10:41 PM

D'oh! dealer, I didn't stay through the credits! What gives!?!?!

Posted by: PDiddy | January 21, 2008 10:48 PM

dealer, don't you go spoiling anything. I'm gonna see Cloverfield one night this week and anyone who spoils anything for me is gonna incur my wrath.

I'd tell you what incurring my wrath entails, but that would be a spoiler. Can you see how serious I am?!

As you were.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 21, 2008 10:56 PM

"Fassel? He got fired by Billick in flippin' Baltimore!"

Hard to blame Fassel for Baltimore's O. According to NFL.com, here are the stats for the Baltimore O over the last decade

2007 - 22nd
2006 - 17th
2005 - 24th
2004 - 31st
2003 - 21st
2002 - 26th
2001 - 14th (offensive highwater mark, they gotta crack the top ten next year, right?)
2000 - 16th (top 50% of the league, all hail the Billick effect)
1999 - 24th (enter Brian Billick)
1998 - 26th
1997 - 9th (nearly the top quartile!)

Ugh

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 21, 2008 10:57 PM

So we're supposed to keep the OC and the whole direction of the offense because we've got a great 36-year-old backup quarterback who with luck will never have to start for the Skins again?

I don't see it.

Posted by: suz | January 21, 2008 10:57 PM

freakzilla, stay through the credits and let me know what you see. Also, the Intertubes are all amok with "easter eggs" from the final scene on Coney Island. Watch the far right of the screen. Curiouser and curioser.

Man, I love JJ Abrams.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 21, 2008 11:00 PM

Note: the above post was in no way an endorsement for Jim Fassel as head coach of anything. It was merely an effort to show that polishing a turd is never effective.

Better to use it as fertilizer

Adam

Posted by: argh | January 21, 2008 11:00 PM

All this talk about what Campbell and what Collins had to work with: here is the definitive answer, in the same same game, with same personnel, same opponent:

Campbell with full compelement of practices and reps: ZERO points

Collins coming off the bench cold: TWENTY FOUR points.

Case Closed. And, what is this talk of Collins having a bad game in Seattle -- he had a heck of a game with all that pass rush and wrong routes and drops!

There is no subsititute for Football IQ my friends. Montana is in the HOF with 5 yd. hitches to Rice and Taylor that went for 70 yd scores.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | January 21, 2008 11:03 PM

All this talk about what Campbell and what Collins had to work with: here is the definitive answer, in the same same game, with same personnel, same opponent:

Campbell with full compelement of practices and reps: ZERO points

Collins coming off the bench cold: TWENTY FOUR points.

Case Closed. And, what is this talk of Collins having a bad game in Seattle -- he had a heck of a game with all that pass rush and wrong routes and drops!

There is no subsititute for Football IQ my friends. Montana is in the HOF with 5 yd. hitches to Rice and Taylor that went for 70 yd scores.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | January 21, 2008 11:03 PM

Cloverfield is a sled.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 21, 2008 08:49 PM

Good thing I know you're joking. Did you you see what I declined to say I was gonna do to purveyors of spoilage?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 21, 2008 11:04 PM

diddy, i can't say out of fear...gonna either have to pay $10 again or just google it.

Posted by: dealer | January 21, 2008 11:07 PM

Sorry, zilla. Was just trying to elicit an inappropriately timed guffaw from Diddy, causing him to be roundly shushed by an audience of fleece-clad passive-aggressive Seattlelites.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 21, 2008 11:08 PM

shushing would be too aggressive for Seattle. A nicely placed finger wag followed by a hrmph and walking away is more like it. In fleece.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 21, 2008 11:13 PM

I just got "Cloverfield is a sled". Nate, you're en fuego today.

F-ing brilliant.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 21, 2008 11:14 PM

Are the GG lemmings ready to jump off a cliff yet? This would be funny if it weren't for the fact that it's my favorite football team.

Like I said, the palace intrigue should GG get hired of who gets fired and hired is going to be fun to watch...

Posted by: PDiddy | January 21, 2008 11:16 PM

GG lemmings? Come now, Diddy.

I just think that per everything we know or are pretty sure we know, factoring in known unknowns, Williams represents our best chance to both continue the good things Gibbs has accomplished AND add new wrinkles (not to mention those gorgeous flapjacks) to push this team to new heights. Which is what I'm looking for.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 21, 2008 11:27 PM

here's my prediction: gg is the hc and now they're looking to replace the AHCO. but wouldn't weird al have a fit about it already and woulda heard about it. the dude spent close to $2 mil on his house in ashburn/leesburg. it's probly worth dolla fitty now. then again that's what he did to the offense...

Posted by: dealer | January 21, 2008 11:32 PM

yo sfskin, at risk of outing myself as a bleeding heart ner educational technologist, you should check out:

http://teachertube.com/

great classroom resources, looks/acts/functions just like youtube accept fractions and such...look for the rappin white female math teacher...classic

Posted by: chrislarry | January 22, 2008 12:02 AM

Can't post.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 22, 2008 12:04 AM

I can post a comment!! The silent voice in the debate for HC can now be heard.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 22, 2008 12:07 AM

As for HC, I'm for continuing where the team left off which is keeping both AHC's with the nod to 3G for the HC. Al's work also suffered due to the injuries. Can't average 5.0 yards a carry with a sack of flour at RT and a revolving door at RG. Collins was terrific but anyone who saw the last game saw what happens when an over 35 QB not named Brett plays 5 straight weeks. The ball was late to every pass to the sideline as if it was inflated with helium. Todd Collins is what he is - a 21st century Frank Reich whoever was Jim Kelly's backup.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 22, 2008 12:16 AM

As for those hard on Jason Campbell, did you realize that Eli is in the Super Bowl?

Posted by: bangkokben | January 22, 2008 12:23 AM

I fail to see the benefit in pursuing Fassel as an OC prior to naming Williams the HC. And I definetly don't see him as a better HC choice than Williams. Announce Williams as HC already or move the F on.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | January 22, 2008 1:11 AM

"Cloverfield is a sled" still has me giggling. I just may giggle myself to sleep tonight.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 22, 2008 1:19 AM

"He's the only name I mentioned that Friday night when the first mystery meeting took place."

PZZT..actually you said Russ Grimm and played down Fassell all week.

Guess you were wrong, eh?

If the Redskins sign this guy they will set this ball club back four years.

Norv Turner 2.

Siimply the worst signing Dan Snyder could chose for this ball club - but the best for a coach that will not ask for personnel control.

Pathetic.

Posted by: carnack | January 22, 2008 1:30 AM

Even a blind squirrel, Diddy, even a blind squirrel.

Nighty-night, blog. Let's push on past 150,000 comments tomorrow. Easy-peasy.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2008 1:31 AM

BTW Jason, you applied a bit of your "revisionist journalism" to this statement too, effectively contradicting yourself:

"The Redskins can not interview any Pats or GIants coaches until after the Super Bowl,as they did not make a previous initial attempt to speak to any of them."

I guess its good that you finally got it right. (Somebody tip you off?)

Posted by: carnack | January 22, 2008 1:42 AM

carnack, that was a pretty common mistake by A LOT of journalists. While it's true that perhaps journalists should know such things, in truth that is a miniscule bit of NFL arcana in a league that is FULL of miniscule bits of arcana.

I do think JLaC pulling together the Fassel Arizona home + the Green Bay flight was pretty nifty. No one else out there did that to my knowledge...

Oh well, if GG isn't named tomorrow, I think I'll go sell popsicles at the cliff nearest to Redskins Insider. There'll be lots of moping and gnashing of teeth. I don't understand it, but I'm a capitalist at heart and would love nothing more than to profit from all the confusion and misery.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 22, 2008 1:46 AM

freakzilla, stay through the credits and let me know what you see. Also, the Intertubes are all amok with "easter eggs" from the final scene on Coney Island. Watch the far right of the screen. Curiouser and curioser.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 21, 2008 11:00 PM

Diddy, I'll keep my eyes peeled and report back (via e-mail, since I'm no squealer -- er, spoiler).

Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 1:47 AM

Oh well, if GG isn't named tomorrow, I think I'll go sell popsicles at the cliff nearest to Redskins Insider.

Not booze. Not cigarettes. Popsicles. Because 7 out of 10 people who have stood at the brink of leaping to their death, later reported that at the moment of truth they felt an overwhelming desire for a Bomb Pop.

Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 1:56 AM

I got an e-mail from my dad today that started thusly:

The question is can I stand to watch the Super Bowl? I'll have to think about that. I do like Tom Coughlin and I'm glad he is having success after Tiki dissed him in his book.


I find it supremely precious that my 61-year-old father used the word "dissed" in a sentence, in context and unprovoked. :)

Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 2:20 AM

I would commission some market research and do a subsequent regression analysis to determine the proper thing to sell, but I'm saving my money for my next shot of tequila.

Which will occur in...

5

4

3

2

1

Posted by: PDiddy | January 22, 2008 2:26 AM

Please God: do not let Jim Fassel come anywhere near the Redskins organization, in any capacity. ARRGHHHH!!!!!

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | January 22, 2008 4:47 AM

Fassel as HC? That can't be right. Can it?? Please God, noooooooooooooooO!!!! How unimaginitive would that be? Surely we wouldn't have spent 2 weeks chasing aorund after an old has-been. If they have been talking to Fassel then it must surely be with a view to becoming OC in a GG led Redskins.

Posted by: tartanskin | January 22, 2008 5:02 AM

This chart now needs a trash can at the bottom of the page where the discards can be tossed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/interactives/coachsearch/

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 22, 2008 5:58 AM

Breaux and Buges should be classified as fossils. We don't need another "Fossil" to add to the group.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 22, 2008 6:00 AM

I find it supremely precious that my 61-year-old father used the word "dissed" in a sentence, in context and unprovoked. :)

Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 02:20 AM

So! You can teach an old dog new tricks, after all.

'zilla -- Come on, don't make these age-ist remarks. Your brain doesn't stop working just because you're over, say, 22. You can still learn new vocabulary even after you've taken the SAT's.

The dude learned the term watching "Pimp My Ride" which is very popular among us senior citizens. Besides, your dad's probably a genius -- he taught you most of your best tricks. And if you'd paid better attention, you would have learned even more.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 6:10 AM

"Could be talking to him about coordinator-type positions as well, given that numerous league sources have told me that Snyder and Cerrato are down on Al Saunders."

Let's get this straight:

Saunders comes to DC to run the offense and call the plays. First, Gibbs insists that Big Al use Brunell as the QB to unveil the Big Playbook. After Mark's arm falls off in mid-season, Gibbs insists that Big Al use JC, a virtual rookie, as the QB, even though Jason has had no work with the starters. The results are decidedly mixed.

After JC studies hard all off-season, Gibbs tells Big Al to restrict the selection for JC in Season #2 of the Big Playbook, to avoid rookie mistakes. The offense struggles to score points and the troops get restless. JC gets hurt, the Todd takes over, and we finally get to see the beauty and wonder of the Big Playbook for a few games.

In the end-of season team review, Gibbs apparently tosses Big Al under the bus for the lack of offense, so Vinny and Dan decide that a new direction is needed?

Gee, that sounds fair.

And it appears to be a decidedly new interpretation of the word, "continuity".

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 22, 2008 6:15 AM

Cindy,

Please make room in the trash bin on the Coaches' Tracking Chart for Al Saunders. (Or should that be the Cryogenic Freezer instead?)

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 22, 2008 6:17 AM

wow that's cool, our coaching staff bar Blatche, williams, Bugel and lacking our "gm" cerrato are NOT at the senior bowl...sweet.

Just another example of the redskin way!

Let's go into this draft and off season without a presence at the Senior Bowl...everyone else does...so why should we?

Posted by: dbussjd | January 22, 2008 7:08 AM

good showing last night... the westsiders had much to say. Is TheCrickets007 still anonymous or someone from RI 1.0 that I would remember? I like the cut of their jib. Super smart and lots of middle o' the night time on their hands. Keep it up crickets, I choose you over the morning paper 5 out of 7 days of the week.

Posted by: Dorf | January 22, 2008 7:22 AM

Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies

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By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

Jim Fassel, the last coach to take the New York Giants to a Super Bowl, met with Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder on Monday, league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Fassel could emerge as a serious candidate for the Redskins' head coaching vacancy or as a potential offensive coordinator, the sources said. Fassel could not be reached for comment.

Fassel was a finalist for the Redskins job in 2004 until Joe Gibbs came out of retirement to replace Steve Spurrier. Snyder and vice president of player personnel Vinny Cerrato traveled cross country on Christmas Eve in 2003 to conduct a two-day interview with Fassel, who had been fired as the Giants coach.

Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been considered the favorite for the team's head coaching job and has intervviewed or conversed on at least four occcasions with Snyder and Cerrato. There also has been unconfirmed media speculation that even if Williams is named the coach that Snyder could be looking for an offensive coordinator to replace Al Saunders.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2008 7:25 AM

Dorf, I personally believe that the Crickets above are from the blogger formerly known as Ocho-Ocho... but this could be a Dread Pirate Roberts situation where someone else has assumed the Crickets mantle. First it was Buddy Holly's band, then it was Ocho-Ocho, and now it could be another dude.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2008 7:37 AM

350 or so to go before our Big Milestone up here. Let's get moving, people. We're burnin' daylight.

(Well, the sun isn't actually up, here, so it's metaphoric daylight.)

HAIL TO THE BLOG!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2008 7:40 AM

It's Fasselpalooza and Millenmania!

Posted by: Soups1 | January 22, 2008 7:50 AM

By the way, if Williams gets the job but doesn't get to pick his staff, he'd better run to the emergency room, 'cause somebody cut his nuts off!

Only Barry Switzer was able to pull off the lackey role to land a Super Bowl ring; and that was due to a great lineup courtesy of Jimmy Johnson and Herschel Walker.

We don't have that same kind of lineup here.

Posted by: Soups1 | January 22, 2008 7:55 AM

We also don't have the two recent championships, that wave Switzer caught the end of. Oh, maybe you'd already noticed that.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2008 7:56 AM

I still don't buy it, no matter what Mort says.

If it isn't Williams, I don't believe for one second Fassel is enough of a big name for Snyder. I feel the "big reveal" coming today or tomorrow, but would be very surprised if this infamous mystery candidate turned out to be Fassel.

Nope, keep looking under those rocks, people.

Posted by: christagrim | January 22, 2008 7:58 AM

or, wait...he's NOT the mystery candidate, according to Mort, right? I'm not sure I'm following Jason's details on this one, but Mort said Fassel only interviewed yesterday.

Soooooo, the mystery candidate's identity has still yet to be revealed.

I still ain't buying the Fossil-hype. Mystery-man is still under cover.

Posted by: christagrim | January 22, 2008 8:01 AM

I can't believe Fassel either, but then I was thinking... only two teams from our division have played in the Big Game during Snyder's tenure, the Iggles and Jints.

The first time this happened under Snyder was the Jints in 2000, under Fassel. I think it might have burned Snyder's britches (more than it would ordinarily burn to see a division rival go to the last game) because we had such high hopes for 2000 ourselves, but that was the season when he, you know, fired Norv Turner with three weeks to go and a winning record and shot at the playoffs. And while Snyder had to conduct his Very First Coach Search, there was Fassel leading his team to the NFC title.

I guess why his name surfacing is at all plausible is that Snyder might have somehow fixated (there's that word again) on Fassel way back when. But I still don't buy it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2008 8:04 AM

Lisa,

You go girl! I knew you had it in ya.


Aside from that, the one thing that troubles me about the Mortensen story is that "SNYDER could be looking for a new OC". Really? Shouldn't it be the HC's job to hire his own staff? I really hope I'm reading too far into that.

And I honestly don't know why anyone would want to come here and mess around with this cluster fart of an organization. I mean, you have a constant circus-like atmosphere, mass confusion, poor communication, constant meddling, incompetent people appointed to jobs and you can't do a darn thing about it, etc. Oh that's right, they come here for the pay day.

I honestly wouldn't mind Fassel if they're going to screw over Gregg. I mean, he'd be better than the '08 version of the Ol' Ball Coach, wouldn't he? But I hope all these rumors about him as OC are false. Like Lisa said, Al was hampered by Gibbs until the Bears game. He probably still was to certain extent after that as well. If Gregg stays, Al should stay. No question about it.

Continuity, Napolean. Haven't you heard your "personal adviser" stress that??????

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 22, 2008 8:08 AM

maybe mystery man mandated Fassel as his OC as a condition of his big-splash hiring.

That said, Nate...I hear you on this one, and agree it may be a plausible scenario. Could be Snyder's heavy-duty Superbowl-envy carrying over from that awful Norv Turner debacle in 2000.

Posted by: christagrim | January 22, 2008 8:21 AM

I am trying to be calm however...before Gibbs 2.0 I was ready to call it a day on snyder & the skins just like I did angelos & the o's. I am ssoooo tired danny cerrato. Maybe I can just live in the 80's. I may be done with this team.

Posted by: markjd | January 22, 2008 8:31 AM

This is ridiculous. What is Snyder doing? What is he waiting for? Fassel? Are you kidding? He was last relevant in 1996. If Saunders leaves, that's another lost year for JC.

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Posted by: Burgundy | January 22, 2008 8:50 AM

no way he's only interviewing for coordinator positions. that can be done after the head coach is hired. if he's gone out of the way like this without naming his head coach first, then it's probably because he's interviewing for the head coaching position.

Posted by: psps23 | January 22, 2008 8:54 AM

Panic from everyone on the blog, without even knowing the facts. Another day on RI.

Where's all the Fassell hate coming from? I don't have a horse in this race, but the guy had a good run in New York and he took a team to the Super Bowl. He has a good record with young quarterbacks. That's two things that Gregg Williams can't say.

And what's with all the impatience around here? It was only two weeks ago that Gibbs resigned, unexpectedly. How long do you think it should take under these circumstances for the owner to find a replacement? Baltimore took longer. Atlanta still doesn't have a coach and they started looking four weeks before the season was over.

We all -- especially the owner -- want a coach who will be with us for ten years. At least ten years. So, why do you expect we can find one in only two weeks. Shouldn't the owner interview every reasonable candidate?

Did you all marry the first person you dated? How did that work out? When your first spouse walked out, did you marry the second person you dated?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 8:59 AM

Has the option of player/manager been discussed? Like the ol' baseball greats who would insert themselves into the line up to bulk their all-time stats... Would Todd Collins make a good OC for us? He could insert himself in the game whenever he felt like it and would call all the shots.

Let the smack to the back of the head commence!

Posted by: Dorf | January 22, 2008 9:01 AM

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Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 9:01 AM

This is starting to get worrisome. Honestly, while we didn't win it all in the 4 years Gibbs was here, we did make progress in a number of way's.

1. The Redskins now value the draft, where previously they did not
2. The Redskins are developing young players, where previously they brought in high priced free agents.
3. The Redskins have a good young nucleus in place, Portis, Cooley, Moss, Campbell, ARE, Betts, Montgomery, Golston, Landry, Doughty, Macintosh.

Is Snyder that much of a narcissist that he can't see the positive gains that the team has made, and wants to basically destroy the continuity that they currently have?

He can't be that foolish, as to only want to see his name in lights, while setting the team back years, can he?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | January 22, 2008 9:01 AM

This feels like a Twilight Zone episode and that we have all gone back in time to 2000.

If Snyder ends up hiring Fassel or someone else outside of the organization, I fear he will return to his fantasy football ways as well and the Skins will be right back where they started circa 2003 when the OBC retired on a golf course. Because, I think more players than just TC will leave after seeing this circus play out. This is all enough to make you want to have those last two tequilas and stick your head in the oven.

If Boy Owner does indeed revert back to his adolescence and hoses this up, I want all of the those Snyder defenders to crawl under a rock and stay there, for it will have shown that he has learned absolutely nothing.

Posted by: CSzaz | January 22, 2008 9:06 AM

And I honestly don't know why anyone would want to come here and mess around with this cluster fart of an organization.

Posted by: RickyBobby | January 22, 2008 08:08 AM

RB my question is does the term"clusterfart" mean one gigantic fart broken into many smaller pieces or is it a plethora of farts from different sources?

Posted by: smittdiddy | January 22, 2008 9:06 AM

At this point I don't even care anymore. Unlees Cowher Changes his mind no one is going to get me excited from the hire. At this point to me it is a wait and see what happens next season. If it's fassel.. LEt's see, Let's see if we are a better team. I'm just baffeled by the crappy selection of names thrown around. Esp the retreads.. Etiher Cowher, or new blood.

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | January 22, 2008 9:09 AM

talent_evaluator, it is not panic. It is because Snyder has a long and checkered history when it comes to these things and frankly, is never to be trusted. Hell, in 8+ years of owning the team, he still has never even hired a GM. How asinine is that? Cerrato is there as his butt boy and yes man and long has been considered a joke around the league and rightfully so for the most part.

It is pretty bad when the fans biggest worries and fears come from the team's own owner.

Posted by: CSzaz | January 22, 2008 9:11 AM

Maybe it's Williams who doesn't like Saunders and has told Snyder he wants a different OC if he's to be HC.

Or maybe Williams has acutually turned down the HC position because he doesn't want it if Snyder's going to pick his assistants. (Does Williams have that sort of pride?)

Posted by: skinfanman | January 22, 2008 9:16 AM

Howard Cosell had words to best describe this situation: "It's all a big joke - it just goes on and on."

Snyder calling the shots on assembling the coaching staff now....????

Snyder makes Jerry Jones look good. They can both put on the headset on gameday.

Posted by: i155133 | January 22, 2008 12:01 PM

I personally don't have any problem with Snyder taking his time with this coaching search. I'm all for finding someone who'll stick around for the long haul, something we haven't had around here in a long time.

My issue isn't the timing, it's the whole deliberate subterfuge angle. Snyder creating drama and intrigue for sport. Why the mystery? Why the sneaking around? We're choosing a head football coach, not the next pope. What's with not telling the public which candidates are in your applicant pool?

I fear Snyder is more worried about reveling in the spotlight right now than in actually selecting the right coach. He LOVES these moments when he's in total control. (Remember the Spurrier drama?) Gimme a break...how much more power does he need/crave?

THAT'S my issue right now. Take all the time you need, dude... but stop with the histrionics.

Posted by: christagrim | January 22, 2008 1:07 PM

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