Panties. Just....Panties

Is this a joke?

Is this a joke?

I would have been happier had they promoted My Cousin Vinny...

Just make Vinny the coach and get it over with

Well, now that he has the promotion, shouldn't we call him Mr. Cerrato? Or, at least, Vincent? Or Vincenzo?

Cindy, is this true?

"DCRTV hears that Washington Post sports writer Barry Svrluga will be jumping to the paper's Washington Redskins coverage team. Meanwhile, the Post is looking for someone to replace Svrluga on the Washington Nationals beat. In addition to the Skins, Svrluga will also cover the 2008 Olympics for the Post"

Posted by: WrongDog | January 22, 2008 02:34 PM

shocking. i did NOT see that coming. even for vinny.

serenity now

serenity now

serenity now

Jasno,
Any good news today?

I can't say I think it's a terrible idea. Having said that, I will now duck as things are thrown in my direction.

I think I'm going to barf!!!!!!

WHAT?????????????????

just threw up in my mouth.

"... I have concerns about what style of offense he's going to implement. I have bad feeling he's going to run a traditional Run on first and second downs throw on third. ..."

Posted by: Down777866 | January 22, 2008 02:19 PM

This is the precise reason why Fassel would be the head coach (and, as someone mentioned previously, the decision doesn't get announced until its too late for Gregg Williams to jump ship, and thus be forced to remain DC). This bit about running on first and second down ... can anyone say Joe Gibbs? Nothing says continuity like replacing Joe Gibbs with a Joe Gibbs clone. Al Saunders keeps his same role as last year ... offensive coordinator on a leash.

Vinny Cerrato promotion?!?!! ONE POPSICLE UP HERE PLEASE!

Vinny is what???????

Oh God, here we go... welcome to DC Jim Facial!! Bye-Bye Williams and Saunders!

Vinny deserves an award for getting such a high paying and prestigious gig despite having done NOTHING......He's proof that in the corporate world, the suits really dont know what the hell is going on.....

"we have a plan"

Reservation for 3 for the invoice burning party, please.

Interesting, he has EXACTLY the same title now as Parcells down in Miami. Do you think he went and complained to Danny when he heard what the Tuna's title was?

And that Gibbs quote smacks of PR 'attribution'. I find it hard to hear those words coming out of JJG's mouth.

I have no idea what it must be like to have Vinny's job. I mean, no self respect, but a ton of $$$$. Anyone out there know what it feels like???

he must have some freaky pictures of Snyder and Jerry Jones "playing together" at Six flags after hours.

No way. Just no way. No *&^&#@ way.

Unless this is some sort of countdown and they're about to release the NEXT press release with the name of the new head coach.

Isn't there a way for redskins nation to acquire majority ownership of the organization?

Ah, come on. Last year was an epic disaster in terms of tragedy and injuries, and Vinny did a great job fleshing out the roster with a bunch of nobodies. They found some great talent on defense (only Heyer on offense, but I think that's more because the Space Cowboys weren't willing to trust any young guys). Vinny deserves at least part of the credit.

JustMe,

I'll glady host an invoice burning party at my place. I even have a kegerator so we can get nice and lit.

Maybe we can even get channel 9 to come out and film the event if we get enough RSVPs?

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Well, at least Snyder finally hired a GM.

So when Cowher becomes the coach after this coming season does Vinny have to abdicate his throne?

how the AP interprets joe gibbs:
'Joe Gibbs, who recently retired after four years as Head Coach and Team President added, "Vinny worked closely with me on all personnel matters. This is a well-deserved acknowledgement of that."'

what gibbs actually said:
"Well, he was always in the personnel meetings. I mean, we kinda had to keep him muzzled the entire time, but sure, you can say he was involved in the process."

the decision doesn't get announced until its too late for Gregg Williams to jump ship

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2008 02:37 PM

It's never too late for Gregg to leave. Baltimore and Atlanta are both looking for D Coordinators. And, after that, there are teams who would fire a guy to replace him with Gregg. He won't have trouble finding work.

You who wanted a GM--you got one. This makes Mr. Cerrato the GM. And they announce this before they announce a coach so everyone knows that the GM picked the coach, just like they do it in the big leagues.

" ... Vinny deserves at least part of the credit. ..."

Posted by: PDiddy | January 22, 2008 02:40 PM

Credit is as credit does, sir. $20 million over the salary cap in 2008. [Compared to the next closest team ... who is only $4M UNDER ...] GWBushonomics ... per Cheney "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" ... [omitting the rest of the sentence, which was "to getting re-elected."]

[See also Deion Sanders, Mark Carrier, Dana Stubbefield, lather, rinse, repeat, maps, such as]

I've never been more embarrassed to be a fan of this team... who hires Vinny Cerato as their VP of Operations.? I mean will he have a NEW PLAN now. As VP of OPs he should, at least read off Snyder's cue cards.

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 02:41 PM

and if it IS broke, then promote it.

exactly suz

and double exactly carter

I want to get an RI shirt with Danny and Vinny doing something and then the title WE HAVE A PLAN... maybe picking each other nits like the monkeys they are?

Maybe this is the continuity they were talking about.

Presumably this means that even if Williams is appointed he's on a VERY short leash as he will report to Vinny?

It also gives Snyder a degree of deniability over all decisions in the future as he can say "that's Vinny's call".

I also like the way that text at the top says "...his first Super Bowl ring..." as if he's EVER been close to a second. And what was it he contributed to the 49ers team?

dchandl,

Cowher, or anyone else for that matter, will never get to decide that for themselves...

I believe the contract will read something like this...

I, ________________________, agree to coach the Washington Redskins from ________ to ________ at the rate of ____ million per year.

Fine Print at the bottom:

P.S. you are not allowed to fire or replace Vinny Cerato.

Well, at least Snyder finally hired a GM.

Posted by: cvdterp | January 22, 2008 02:42 PM

_______________

I thought the same thing, actually. And, God willing, this is a post that will continue to be filled after Vinny is gone.

It's never too late for Gregg to leave. Baltimore and Atlanta are both looking for D Coordinators. And, after that, there are teams who would fire a guy to replace him with Gregg. He won't have trouble finding work.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 02:43 PM

gregg's not allowed to leave for any position other than head coach, unless snyder allows it. even if another HC is brought in here, snyder still has him under contract, and the redskins hold his rights even if he decides to leave on his own free will (ala resignation).

I think they intended to do this just before naming the coach. I think we're a step closer to find out who now...

Just say no to Fassel, Mr Snyder. Just say no.

Can they promote Joe Theisman as their new PR and media man?

"I'm not making this up:"

Uh, uh, uh, not even all of the hamsters of doom could have predicted this.

Wow, just wow.

(Wait. Zilla's opera man piece may have come close to predicting it.)

Diddy,

I'm with you on that. We don't know who did the work, but if it was Vinny, then he deserves a shot at the big job.

And, on offense, someone deserves credit for replacing Dockery with Kendall and probably for a few other dudes -- McCardell, Caldwell, Mix.

And someone deserves to be fired for Lloyd, and I think that someone is Saunders.

Fassel is now going to be our new Head Coach.
Can you believe that? He'll be known now 'offically' as Vinny's Boy.

I can't take the blows to the groin anymore!

I've come to the conclusion that I actually am not a skins fan. I'm a Gibbs fan, anytime he's not around I really dislike this franchise.

We are so screwed, it is hard to even capture in words. I wish I could divorce myself from this organ-I-zation and become the fan of another team, any other team, even the Bengals. My son has some hope, but I am probably done for this lifetime - the little Matzo-ball is only 42, he will be the owner for a long long time...oy!!!

No, Megskin - THIS is the worst joke ever.

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

psps23--

Where did you see Gregg's contract? Those contracts usually have clauses that allow a coach to void them when the head coach changes.

And, if what you're saying were correct, then it wouldn't matter when they picked the head coach, would it?

Finally, if they do hire Fassell, he would want to pick his own man rather than to deal with a malcontent, wouldn't he?

wow Ceratto, Snyder and Facial running the skins. Help us baby jesus!

"happy place"

It's not working....

SHOOT ME NOW!!!

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

"happy place"

Posted by: isnadd | January 22, 2008 02:50 PM

Now pops in Shooter McGavin taking it to my hot PGA girlfriend... and grandma... with Gene Simmons.......... Awww F#ck!

Clearly prostitution pays well.

Talk about continuity -- Vincent has been here for nine years. That's the continuity that Dan Snyder was referring to, not continuity at coaching.

Reposted for posterity's sake (not the butt crack variety), and I just needed another laugh.

(Picture Adam Sandler in a wig and a cape....okay, go.)

Vinny Cerrato
musta been blotto
he fell down on the floor-a
and speed-dial Jimmy Mora
"Jimmy you my friend-a
Gibbs 2 is at an end-a
the Seahawks we will poach-a
you come and be our coach-a
we give you lotsa moolah
we call you next Don Shula
to last place Skins we send-a
but Danny still my friend-a"

Posted by: freakzilla | January 17, 2008 09:06 PM

I'm officially taking the Boycott-Bus out of the garage and filling up the tank.

More to come. Unfortunately, it seems, much more to come.

unbelievable how anyone can botch this process of hiring the new coach!!

cerrato and snyder must be sitting in a filthy office right now...

"... We don't know who did the work, but if it was Vinny, then he deserves a shot at the big job. ... And, on offense, someone deserves credit for replacing Dockery with Kendall ..."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 02:48 PM

The example of Kendall is a perfect one ... its not that tough to land the guys that "just came up" when your playing with casino's money and that casino belongs to The Owner (for whom Bolivia's debt compares laughably to a roster bonus for a special teams depth player).

Dockery left in free agency BEFORE the draft ... remember the draft where we picked up Jordan Palmer? The extra "g" in Gregg has nothing on Vinny when it comes to genius in personnel choices. Players know that the gravy bowl is deep in DC ...

TE, it's possible (and probable) that GG has some sort of void clause in his contract. just saying that under normal contracts, that's the way it would work. it would matter, in this circumstance, when the head coach is picked because if it's after every other head coaching vacancy is filled, then GG would have no other option than to fulfill snyder's wishes (unless he steps out of the nfl for his contract duration).

but in the end, i don't think it'll ever happen. snyder's not that big of an ass to do that to gregg, and in all likelihood, the new HC would want his own staff running his defense. here's to wishing for GG as HC...still.

I they go with Fassel I will not buy one damn thing until Dan sells the team. I hope all his damn bussiness go down so he is force to sell the team. I am starting to have a strong dislike for him.

Is this when they send in the clowns? Or does that come when they announce JF or someother re-treaded, losser coach to drive the redskins in further disarry

jm220,
Join me on the boycott bus. I will reserve the front row seat for you. (you can also serve as security)

JKC is a better owner 6 feet under than this clown....

It is sad to see what is happening to this organization.

Sad days!!!

Snyder - Think Vinny... You take Gibbs' place at the top of the pyramid as Vice President and I can secretly be President of Everything.

Cerrato - Me, Vice President? Really Danny?! OMG!

Can I still go down on the field at the end of game like Jerry does?

Snyder - Sure, Vinny, Sure you can. Now call Fassell and tell him to get his ass down here. And call Williams to my office, and tell him it's for interview number 6! Then I will tell him to take his silver-lock and shove it!

Ceratto - That's a good one boss.

Snyder - Now Vinny! Sit up straight and go act presidential or something. Go call LaCanfora and tell him YOU have a PLAN!

Could I get a ticket as well.....

this nightmare is ruining my life, why can't it all just go away!!! NOW!

the inmates are running the asylum...where's the sanity!

It's truly sad but I think they are screwing with Gregg Williams. Interviewed him to make him think he had a chance and to tie him up from interviewing with anyone else. Now that every team but ATL has a head coach where can he go?

That was a mean and cruel thing to do Daniel Snyder!!!!!

psps--

There has been zero interest this year or last in GG as a head coach. His only hope has been here in DC, so delaying the decision hasn't affected him.

If he isn't chosen, and leaves, he'll land a good job, though probably at lower pay than he's getting here. Gregg has had a fair shake in DC.

Last week sometime, someone named morton20boy posted about how Vinny and Gregg Williams don't get along (something about the FO souring on Gregg around the time of the Vikings game).

I don't have any more words for it. This. Can't. Be. Good. AMTTS had something about stilts, a mink coat, and the filming of the Rambo movie. Those words also work fine.

This is one of the worst days in Redskins history...

Through the door, there came familiar laughter
I saw your face and heard you call my name
Oh, my friend, we're older but no wiser
For in our hearts, the dreams are still the same

Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we'd choose
We'd fight and never lose
Those were the days, oh yes, those were the days

Go Cyclones!!!

Jesus Christ settle down people! You think you know, but you really have no idea. None of you--I repeat, NONE OF YOU--has any clue whatsoever as to whether Vinny Cerrato has been a valuable member of the Redskins front office, nor do any of you know if he will make a good executive VP of the organization.

You all need to settle down and stop rushing to judgment on the guy.

So i've had a few minutes to let this settle in. Is Vinny for all intents and purposes the GM? If so Will Danny step aside and let Vinny Actually manage the personnel? Or will he be nothing more than Dan's puppet?

When jm says "strong dislike for him", you'd better run.

Kendall isn't why I think Vinny deserves some credit. It's Montgomery, Alexander, Golston, Heyer, and even Cooley.

Besides, at that level, you're not exactly the talent scout, you're the manager that's hiring the right scouts, making sure their opinions are heard, and trusting them to make good decisions. It's about building the organization where, top to bottom, everyone is on the same page as to the kinds of players they're looking for.

I'm not exactly a Vinny fan, but he does have a good pedigree (49ers Championship, Notre Dame Championship, worked with Walsh, Siefert, and Holtz, etc).

The bigger question mark in this organization is Vinny's boss. Whose entire career (in business and football) indicates that he does not comprehend the management principles I described above.

Vinny clearly works really well on his knees. Maybe he can hire Monica Lewinsky as a Talent Coordinator...

anyone interested in two lower level tix that have been in my family since RFK days?

I've been sitting around at work all day waiting to hear the news about our new head coach...

AND THIS IS THE BREAKING NEWS OUT OF ASHBURN?

Tell me when its over...

'First superbowl ring'? Did I miss something: Before coming to Washington, he spent nine seasons, and earned his first Super Bowl ring, with the San Francisco 49ers, where he served as Director of College Scouting and Director of Player Personnel.

a diatribe about the beat reporter can't be far behind.

BTW, another curious fact: anyone notice that with the exception of Stephon Heyer that all (literally, all) of the "nobody" young prospects are on the defensive side of the ball?

You can infer out of that what you will. This is the sole reason why I think GG would be a good choice.

So this must be what a coffee enema feels like....

barno is on Dan's payroll, pass it on

Barno=Vinny

Wow, I've now wasted 4 hours of my day selling popsicles :-)

I should get to work and justify my existence.

Wake me up if there's any trouble in Whoville.

Honestly...is there anyone that thinks this is a good move?

Barno:

while I would ordinarily agree with you, there've been way too many NFL execs we've read about who continually scratch their heads at the way this team is run from the front office. I tend to think this is a Hindenberg-type disaster (Oh the humanity!); but what the hell! It is Danny's team. After all, it could've been Matt Millen.

maybe all the negative "fire vinny" comments have worked against us... so im going with the PROMOTE VINNY!!!!!

Well, at least Snyder finally hired a GM.
Posted by: cvdterp | January 22, 2008 02:42 PM

Maybe this is the continuity they were talking about.
Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 02:45 PM

Best posts so far. I see this as a positive. We have to live with these guys for a long time.....

I'm done with the non-stop waiting and wondering who the coach will be. Now that Vinny "is the Man," its a given another kick in the ass from Snyder is soon to follow. Why wait for it?

I'm done here

OMG what the hell is this, our team is going straight in the sh!ter, I think snyder just likes to test the fans to see what they will put up with

Honestly...is there anyone that thinks this is a good move?

Posted by: jincargo | January 22, 2008 03:12 PM

is there anyone who thinks this is a move at all? Just giving Vinny a fancier title and maybe a set of new knee pads to do the same thing.

A year from now, Vinny will be team president, a la Joe Gibbs. But Danny can't do that yet since Joe is still in the building, so to speak.

Well, at least Snyder finally hired a GM.
Posted by: cvdterp | January 22, 2008 02:42 PM

Maybe this is the continuity they were talking about.
Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 02:45 PM

Best posts so far. I see this as a positive. We have to live with these guys for a long time.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2008 03:14 PM

Amen 4th

The sum of all fears. Fassel is going to be tough to swallow. I just wish for ONCE we could get it right.

It's really a slight promotion..Cerrato was VP of Football Ops under Gibbs. He stayed in the background and never was accountable for his gaffes on personnel suggestions to Gibbs.

He just gets the "Executive" name added to his title, a bump in pay and yes, finally the deserved bullseye placed on him should personnel moves go bad. Gibbs won't be around to take the hit for him and Snynder anymore.

This move isn't good because it means Snyder and Cerrato will never have a GM on board. But we all know that already.

Booooo! on the possibility of Fassel.

That my fellow Skins fans is the sound of all the toilets in Redskins park flushing in unison. All of the foundation laid out by Gibbs over the past 4 years is going down the drain. It's looking more and more like Gregg Williams will be shown the door soon unfortunately. Danny has been let out of the doghouse and is tearing things up again. I'm looking forward to another decade of mediocrity. We may have an occasional taste of the playoffs but we won't win consistently until Snyder changes his approach. He needs a rock solid front office guy, not someone credited with tearing down the 49ers dynasty (aka Vinny C).

After all, it could've been Matt Millen.

Posted by: Soups1 | January 22, 2008 03:14 PM

Well they could use another receiver. Just sayin...

I just heard that Holmgren is returning to Seattle, does this put Jim Mora Jr. back in the HC mix?

Those were the days?

I'm thinking Seasons in the Sun.

I will never understand why our owner will spend millions on players and coaches only to ignore the pro personnel department. I am praying vinny goes out and has another productive draft with input from coaches on the team and earns his title change.

If they make Fassel the HC. I turning to hockey. F I am done until Dan is gone. If Coach Joe stays on in anyway with this madness I will lose some respect for him.

I know I'm flirting very close to agreement with Barno on this issue, but honestly, does anyone really know what Vinny actually does? How do we know he is bad at it? How do we know how much say he had in bringing in Marcus, Griff, Tana, Portis, Carter, Daniles, Kendall, Springs, Smoot, Thomas, Randel El? He could have been the desision maker on anyone of these moves, and I think we all agree on their vaule.

Untill I have any proof that Vinny makes bad moves I can't bash him. Why would Snyder pick a bad executive? He has made alot of money in his life, you don't do that by picking bad execs. Picking players may not be his forte but you have to give the man some credit, you don't makes billions by picking the wrong people to run your investments.

I hope vinny does not put his buddy fassel in the coach's seat. that would be a terrible day.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3208709

I did burn my invoice 2 years ago after another afternoon of having $$ beer dumped on me as I watched a pathetic loss, cheap half time show and endured hours of traffic to get home. Every time there seems to be a chance to fix this once great organization...so disappointing.

WongDog- Here's the text of the entire memo you mentioned earlier...

"We are delighted to announce that Barry Svrluga will be joining our Washington Redskins coverage team, which is expanding with an additional reporter. We have long wanted to increase the staffing on our most critical coverage area and better serve the large audiences we have established on our new platforms. With the beat coverage of Jason Reid and Jason LaCanfora and the columns of Mike Wise we think we already had a great reporting team at Redskins Park. Barry will make it that much better. His tireless work on the Washington Nationals since the team's arrival, featuring work on every platform imaginable, has created a new model for Post sports journalism.

Barry will make a gradual move to the Redskins. He'll first help us make a transition to a new Nationals writer and be part of our 2008 Olympics coverage team."

Guess they just gave him the title for what he has been doing.

The Danny has wasted the fan's money again.

Look for more losing and depressing Redskin seasons!!

When we said hire a GM, what we meant was hire a GM who would have the responsibility and authority. Vinny has proven himself to be nothing more that DAN's beard, his way of doing what he wants, but saying he has a "football" man in charge.

If the team does not do well, it will be the players fault, the coordinators fault or the head coaches fault, but I can guarantee you will never hear it be Vinny's fault. The buck will never stop with Vinny, because really, Vinny's mouth moves and DAN's voice comes out of it.

Next year this time, if the coach is GG and we don't win a superbowl, GG will be fired, because he is not on the same page with Vin nyDAN.

Next year this time, if the coach is not GG and we don't win a superbowl, we will be told it is because this was a year of transition caused by some problems left by the old regime.

Vinny is DAN's Wes Unseld, and we better get used to it.

Quick, somebody remind Fassel that he has a family for god's sake!

Hire jm220 and GG, and call it Hammerjacks.

I think the days of the "leadership council" or whatever they called it are gone.

Quick, somebody remind Fassel that he has a family for god's sake!

Hire jm220 and GG, and call it Hammerjacks.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 22, 2008 03:27 PM

The Fassel bash up in here is unfounded, but this is so damn good!

If Vinny left the Skins, NO ONE would hire him.

Oh wait...ESPN2 hired him a while back to do the mid-afternoon blah blah show.

Skins are a laughing-stock.

This isn't the end of the world. It's a formality for what we already knew.

Like everyone else, I believe Vinny has a lot to prove as an NFL GM. But give the guy a little credit. On his watch, the Redskins have drafted: Sean Taylor, Chris Cooley, Jason Campbell, Sean Taylor, LaRon Landry, Rocky McIntosh, Carlos Rogers, Anthony Montgomery and Kedric Golston.

Cerrato isn't the team's biggest problem; it's their refusal to value all of their draft picks. Let's see what Vinny does this year with almost all of his picks intact. This title change is just that.

JM, or anyone, can't access espn here at work, could someone please para-phrase what it say's?

As I stepped away for a minute to digest the Vinny news -like swallowing glass - I started to think:

Is it possible we are on the brink of something here, what if this means we are finally going to hire a GM to work alongside Vinny? Maybe, we saw what Parcells did in Miami and realized we should try this plan of having a VP and GM run the ship. Could it be possible that all the delay is that Snyder is building his team structure of VP, GM and HC?

Is there hope, maybe, please...

Greg,

The ESPN linky say Mike Holmgren is returning to coach the Seahags in 2008.

I've been boycotting the blog because I knew Snyder would F*** this whole thing up. I was just hoping that if I didn't pay attention to the whole thing, maybe, just maybe, GG would get his day. Not going to happen, and Fassel is a bumb and i'm ranting on and on and on and onand oonand onandonandon!!!!!

Would it be wrong to wish I was a Raiders fan? or Dolphins? or Rams?!

greg(B), Holmgren said that he's staying on and not retiring.

This is getting ridiculous.

We are literally a laughing stock to most of the league. It's depressing.

I think the most depressing thing about the Vinny and probable Fassel moves will be listening to Joe Gibbs try to support them, especially after Snyder hung him out to dry with all of the "continuity" lines he's been feeding the press.

You think Joe Gibbs would have kept repeating those words if he knew Snyder was NOT going to listen to him and hire someone else who won't offer an ounce of continuity?

Changing my mind from above, I've been convinced by the intervening posts ... this Vinny promotion is not a big deal, just a change in title and salary. Bigger ham sandwich. Nothing has really changed ... just further ossification of the bond btwn The Owner and The Racquetball Partner.

(channeling Jim Mora, Sr)

Fassel? Don't talk about... Fassel. Are you kidding me? Fassel?

gregmarino88,

Basically it's about Holmgren being a slob, then it goes into his daily food intake but the writer didn't have enough time to sumarize it.

Let's look at the positives here:
- Skins have made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 seasons.
-Young up and coming qb.
-Couple of good young players on D
-One of the best tight ends in the game.
-CP is a complete running back.
-Carter, Washington, London, Moss, ARE, CP, RT, Kendall, Rabach, Springs, 21, LL, cooley, JC, Rocky all brought in during the vinny "regime"
It could be a lot worse folks.

what scares me now is we have to rely on our talent and talent aqusition ability going forward, Gibbs/williams gave us good scheme and preperation and Gibbs had well desevered hall of fame credentials giving him instant and unwavering faith from the players( most apparent durring the toughest circumstances) no bickering or giving up anywhere along the way, defense was a constant and offensively though challenged most of the time played to our defensive strength which gave us a chance most of the time.....all that is out the window now if williams is not the coach ....the new coach will have to quickly win over the locker room and prove it durring his first season..... and we have to rely on the talent on hand now (average) and the talent we can acquire via FA/draft with the bug eyed one and the Dan being the chief player evaluators.....

The Fassel rumor also seems like just that ... today's serving of misinformation. Until it happens, and more importantly, until (1) Gregg Williams does NOT get the HC job and (2) decides not to remain defensive coordinator, I'm just going to put my new popsicle up on craigslist to see how much money I can get back.

Thanks fz...

This all just seems like such a waste..I'm going to try not jump the gun on this. I think that GWilliams should get the HC gig, he's been here, he knows the players, they've come out and have voiced their support of his getting the HC gig. I would think that it would be easier for GW to become the head coach, being his familiarity with the goings on the last 4 years. But then I'm a pencil pusher in real life, and don't work for the nfl.

I'm hoping that the Redskins make the right choices...

Now, to think that I was depressed about the Jim Mora Jr. news at first! Fassel couldn't even get the O Cordinator job for the Chiefs! Wake up Danny boy, your going to lose a lot of fans, or in his mind MONEY!!!!!!!

The only reason this happen, Danny and Vinny are GAY.

Things that make you go hmmmm on a chilly Tuesday:

- Fassel who? I always felt confident when the skins played the Giants with Fassel at the helm. What an anti-climatic Mystery interview....
- GG's quietness again - His HC chances just went up - Mora bowed out, Fassel will be the OC.
- Ever get the feeling commenting on blogs is pointless?
- We are all waiting for the big annoucement and it turns out to be Vinny getting promoted... Somewhere Snyder and Vinny are laughing at us.

Hmmmmmmmmm... the search continues.

+++++ start hockey post++++

Dude Jm220, Hockey rulz...The Caps are starting to tear it up with young fast exciting and hunrgy team. Alex O is the bomb and Mike Green is the second coming of Ray Borque. And don't sleep on Thomas Bankstrom who just had 8 assists in 2 games!!!

Ice breakers, goal shakers....THE CAPS!

+++++++END HOCKEY POST++++

1. What did Gregg Williams say in his interviews that makes him the best qualified?

2. And what did Jim Fassell say that makes him unqualified?

Do any of the ranters up here know the answer to either question?

"- Ever get the feeling commenting on blogs is pointless?"

Posted by: JoeyV | January 22, 2008 03:46 PM

Never. My jibba jabba up here (exclusive property of WaPo) will be the only thing for which history will EVER remember me.

Vinny must have pictures of Danny.

t_e, the answer to both questions is "Fried Green Tomatoes."

Wait, that's a different joke.

Never. My jibba jabba up here (exclusive property of WaPo) will be the only thing for which history will EVER remember me.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2008 03:49 PM

I launched a post last night and my son asked "Dad, what did you just say?" I had to change the subject.

Would you make some posts in my name, Sween, so I can brag to my kids?

I am still digesting as well. If they boot GG and 770pgs, what I don't want to hear is how geared we are to win a superbowl next year and build on anything.

I keep hoping that VinnyDAN will wake up one day and be a responsible owner and business manager.

If VinnyDAN does not like GG, then he should not hire GG. Because if he does, and we don't win the SB next year, he Vinny
DAN will fire GG to name his man, and we will be another year behind.

It is funny, but we are suffering from something that VinnyDAN has never been guilty of before - uncertainty. He has been (usually) wrong, but not usually uncertain. Time to stand up, zip up your pants, and make a decision. Go the way everyone on your team and in your community (the NFL and DC) wants and hire GG, or go your own way and hire Fassel (who is a nice agreeable guy who will pay fealty to VinnyDAN). Hiring Fassel is not even the reach hiring the BallCoach was, as Fassel's teams have been professional and have reached a SuperBowl.

But do it now, before there are no more DCs and OCs to throw money at.

this sucks...Danny how are you going to get the faithful to feel good about this team ever again...Fossil ain't gonna cut it because he will not bring anymore wins than GW. That is fact.

These TWO official rules are why I love the host organization, esp. how the two interact:

1. You agree that you are fully responsible for the content that you post. ...

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>>> No matter how many times I read that #6, the only thought I ever have is "masterpiece in legal writing".

dcsween - (exclusive property of WaPo) - I like that, I wonder what they do with exclusiver property anyway? JLaC! WE WANT ANSWERS! Will you archive our meaningless words in a time capsule for future civilizations to read - So they can realize how primitive we were?!?!

If not, I feel irrelevant... :-\ almost like a fossil.

I have constantly been a basher of Vinny Cerrato and the big mistakes, with over priced FA's, blown (traded) draft picks, wasted money with the Salary Cap, etc...

I'm not sure most of you will agree with me here, but last week on Rich Tandler's blog, Joe in Raliegh posted some interesting comments... That might speak more accurately of the FO situation we've had here...

"Joe in Raleigh Says:

January 18th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Why do people hate Cerrato? I don't really get this. If I had to guess, I'd say people were turned off by the story from several years ago about he and Snyder playing racquetball and kicking field goals. Maybe people are unhappy with his relationship with the owner. Maybe people think he's above criticism because he's close to the boss.

Truth is, Cerrato runs the scouting department and that's about it. He's actually done a pretty good job of finding players that are more talented than they have any right to be. I mean, who would have thought Chris Wilson, Stephon Heyer, Reed Doughty, Lorenzo Alexander, etc could play? Of course, he did it with the help of the the coaching staff so he shouldn't get all the credit. But you expect that the personnel dept will work with the coaches, don't you?

If anything, I think I'd promote Cerrato to GM or team president and let him head up the coaching search, given that he's a career football guy. Absent that, the status quo - Cerrato working closely with the coaches to form the roster - is probably is the best alternative. "

Maybe this is best right now. He is now OFFICIALLY responsible for personnel, the team roster, scouting and salary cap management. We don't know how much Danny's hand has been in the pot on these decisions in the past or will be in the future, but maybe this now sets an expectation of his responsibility. If Danny does keep his hands out of picking players and such, this puts Vinny's a$$ on the line, if his decisions result in failure... You would hope at that point that Danny would hire someone to replace him and run the show...

I personally would have been excited to hear they brought Charlie Casserly back, but considering the circumstances with this team supposedly being on the up it doesn't make the most sense if they really believe they're on the right path...

I think this is a move in the right direction, for the least Vinny holds official responsiblity and if he hasn't learned from his past mistakes and continues to do more wrong that good, he wll be shown the door. If Dan wants to win this is what he ultimately has to do...

Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to spin it in a possitive direction vs all the negative going around.

freakz--Did you read my early morning response to your comment about your ol' Dad and his idiomatic expression, "dis"? It was about two or three posts back.

cue carnival music

On a positive note, Snyder is a players owner and I think he will always exhibit common sense when it comes to decisions that impact the players.

Having said that, I don't really care about Vinny because since Bobby Beatherd left the Redskins organization has been a joke on draft day and off-season free agency with the exception of the trade we made with New Orleans when Ditka wanted Ricky Williams.

1. What did Gregg Williams say in his interviews that makes him the best qualified?

2. And what did Jim Fassell say that makes him unqualified?

Do any of the ranters up here know the answer to either question?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 03:48 PM

Good point, TE. No one knows. But the best interviewers aren't always the best hires, so all we can look at is records. Fassel's record is mediocre (comparable to, but better than Norv Turners)--7 years as HC with a 58-53 record. Unlike Turner, he got 3 trips to the playoffs with a 2-3 record. And he hasn't been a HC in a few years.

Hard to get too excited about that, if you're looking for a head coach.

bring in the jugglers

I feel physically ill. We are screwed. This blows.

After more than 30 years of bleeding bugundy and gold (directv becuase I moved from washington, still season ticket holder, etc), I think this may be the last straw. If in fact Fassel is the coach (or its no Grilliams), then I think I may look around for another team to follow...this sucks...

Danny! PUH-LEASE do us all a HUGE favor and just sell the team!

bring in the anti-semites

start the highwire act

I HATE YOU SNYDER. YOU HAVE RUINED THIS ONCE PROUD FRANCHISE. SHAME ON YOU.

JoeyV,

1. Jasno doesn't read the posts anymore ... its was a perfect storm of (1) his second born, (2) average posts per thread exceeding about 75 and (3) the First Battle of the Blogs (in response to a swipe at the ES' beloved moderator, Art).

2. Its not just exclusive property we're talking about here. Its PERPETUAL sublicensable license to create derivative works for display world-wide using technology now known or later developed. For which we are about to receive, amen.

This has to be a bad dream.. Can we get a do over on the day? Start again....

espn reporting cowpies will pick up the crybaby's option for next year.

wheres the bearded lady for this circus

cotton candy for sale here

U-N-F-C-K-I-N-G-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E!!!!

If anyone listens to Sirius, NFL they have been killin' Snyder all day for not going with GW so far.

dcsween - I now feel used...

;~\

ahh, dang... it stripped out my arrow point to my tear and referencing it as a T.O. tear... dang html!

Who cares about Vinny's promotion, he will have the same job responsibilities as he had the last few years. It's just w/o Joe, his voice carries a little more weight. IMO, this isn't something worth hanging yourself over...

horse rides $1.00

980 reporting Fassel had *3rd* interview today and has emerged as the front runner. barno, please feel free to bash them as you do Jasno.

dcsween - I now feel used...

;~\

Posted by: JoeyV | January 22, 2008 04:04 PM

Me too ... but in a good way ... kind of how ex-Mrs. Strahan felt after she learned the Giants are going to the Super Bowl.

Field goal kicking with the owner and new EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT - $8.00 (twice the price of a bottle of water at fedEx field I might add)

Anyone down with going to Dulles Airport and holding signs that say "Fassel go home!" or "Sorry Fassel, Danny was just joking!" Even better, "We don't Want U Here!"???

Fassel's record is mediocre (comparable to, but better than Norv Turners)--7 years as HC with a 58-53 record. Unlike Turner, he got 3 trips to the playoffs with a 2-3 record. And he hasn't been a HC in a few years.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 22, 2008 03:57 PM

The guy had one trip to the Super Bowl and he had two other trips to the playoffs. His record is better than Williams' record. And it's better than Belichick's was in his first stint as an HC.

Look, I'm not a Fassell guy or a GW guy. I'm an agnostic. We just don't have enough information. The only ones who do are are Snyder and Vinny, and they're not talking.

Wait...wait..wasn't Fassel fired because he couldn't win? So, with all the talent available out there, that's the best we can come up with??
Boy..the NFL, and MLB, are the only places where you can fail, get terminated, and then come up with a better job, and more money!! Just unreal, and disheartening.
I can just see all the Giant fans laughing, and laughing...pointing at us, going..."you idiots..you'll NEVER beat us now!!"

World's highest paid squash partner

YOU TALK ABOUT CONTINUITY! WHAT BS!
SNYDER YOU PRICK, YOU BETTER HIRE GW AND MAKE FASSEL THE O COORDINATOR. GIBBS ALWAYS PREACHED" WE HAVE THE BEST FANS" WELL SNYDER THE FANS WANT GW, YOU BETTER GET HIM OR WE WILL LYNCH YOU!OOPS GUESS I GET A TWO WEEK SUSPENSION FROM THIS BLOG!

SMARTEN UP SNYDER, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SHINE, DON'T SCREW IT UP AGAIN.

Speaking of Giants fans laughing anyone ever read this article when Buffalo fans wanted Fassel to replace Williams?

http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2003/12/29/jim_fassel_for_head_coach_be_careful_what_you_wish_for.php

Enjoy!

al852, don't leave out the NBA and NHL they recycle coaches like some people do soda cans...

do the names Dick Motta and mike keenan mean anything to you?!

sheesh

Oh dear god, the rut through mediocrity shall continue!

ya see ... because she gets even more money if Strahan plays in the Super Bowl because he gets money ... ya see, its a joke ...

Mild amusement gets drowned out by the sound of wailing and gnashing of teeth. Will try back later.

Gibbs' endorsement of this fiasco validates what i've known for years -- Gibbs has been in so far over his head that he can't think straight, from a football point of view -- thank goodness he's gone -- BUT that still leaves us with two bozo's at the top with absolutely no football smarts making football decisions --- a decade or more of mediocrity lies ahead skin fans

If you want to see a really bad coach, look up Joe Kuharich. He was the coach when I started following the skins. He not only was a bad coach for the skins, he went to be a bad coach at Notre Dame and a bad coach for the Eagles. How he got the last job with the Eagles is beyond me. Adam, I don't know if you are old enough to remember him.

MARCH IN THE CLOWNS

"Today's Washington Redskins roster is a testament to Vinny..."

Yeah, a bunch of losers.

And just when you guys/girls thought it couldn't get any better here in Washington.

If I were Williams, I would leave ASAP and interview with another organization. How much worse can it get around here?

Once again, as long as Dan Snyder owns the Redskins they will never win a Super Bowl.

- Ray

From the Billzone article JoeyV posted:

"In fact, being a "Gint's" fan, I have been privileged to many (many) close games, regardless of the opponent, because Jim Fassel's offense could never find away to put a team away. This was partially a function of Fassel's passing offense and partially a function of Fassel's coaching style. I am of the belief there are two types of coaches; the ones that coach "to win" and the other coaches "not to lose". Coaches like Parcell's, Jim Johnson, and Dick Vermeil pull out all the bags of tricks in big games. They play with confidence in their players and the players respond. Fassel typically tightens up in big games. His play calling gets more conservative. Fassel's teams usually won against the teams they were supposed to beat, but the assumption is that good teams will break even against each other. Fassel obviously won some games against winning teams but his overall record against winning teams is abysmal."

That paragraph could have been written about the Redskins, this season. Do we need more conservative play-calling? Sheesh.

If we get more conservative, we'll be taking a knee on first and second down, and then punting on third. CRAP!!!

its soak the bloak time

wasn't Fassel fired because he couldn't win?

Posted by: al852 | January 22, 2008 04:09 PM

No, you're confused. Belichick was fired in Cleveland because he couldn't win. Good thing we didn't hire a loser like him.

Fassell had a winning record in New York. He took the Giants to the Super Bowl.

Oh, and Williams was fired in Buffalo because he couldn't win.

popcorn get your popcorn here

Anyone down with going to Dulles Airport and holding signs???

Posted by: bgmoneym20 | January 22, 2008 04:07 PM

Dude, Get a life. I'd rather watch American Idol.

Not to be too silly about all this, but you want to make decisions on your management starting at the top and moving down.

Danny made this decision and I'm sure it clarifies some front office stuff which will clarify where the HC's responsibilities begin and, probably more importantly, where they end. So it is something that did need to be done, and its better that its done before hiring a new coach.

Just not sure why it took two weeks ..

cue the elephants

who is this idiot talent_evaluator who keeps defending cerrato and fassell?

Just not sure why it took two weeks ..

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2008 04:21 PM

Maybe he had to interview six other candidates?

VINNY IS OUT MATT MILLEN!!! Yeah Huh....

And now news that we may want Fassel because he may work better with V man than Gregg Williams....yeah I guess Gregg would actually question some of the Vinny moves.

And just stop it about Fassel and how he develops young quarterbacks...2 words...KYLE BOLLER

Perfect. let us know what great talent you find on American Idol tonight, talent_evaluator. if haveing a life means sitting on the couch and watching american idol, then enjoy. you and vinny can sing the song we all like -

I am your brother, best friend forever!!

who is this idiot talent_evaluator who keeps defending cerrato and fassell?

t_e, is that true? Are you an idiot? You're supposed to disclose that kind of thing, you know.

The only reason I like GG as the head coach is his proven track record of growing young talent on the defensive side of the ball.

This whole "continuity" argument is utter nonsense. If GG is the head coach, he will do things the GG way. He will run practice his way. He will run training camp his way. He will run games his way. Players who used to get free passes through camp and practice will probably not get the same free passes under GG. His tough love demeanor will be in stark contrast to St. Joe's grandfatherly demeanor. Sure, the defensive guys may be used to it, but they're going to get a new defensive coordinator anyway, so they're going to deal day-to-day with a new way of doing things as well.

Anyone who has been in the corporate world has at one point on their career experienced a new "big boss" and seen how things change downstream as a result. The NFL is no different.

Again, the thing to look forward to with GG is his proven ability to trust and grow young talent.

Heard vinnys first duty was to appoint Brunell starting QB again.

No no...that's his 2nd duty

His first duty is to blow Snyder

'zilla,

Moi? An idiot?

I've been trying to keep it a secret, but after a year on the blog I've been outted. I've reported the "outing" to Cindy as being offensive, and she's having it removed.

Full disclosure: This is not the first time that I was called the "i" word, but I'm sure it will be the last.

PDiddy -- the thing GG gives you is the players and the locker room. The players want to play for him. He motivates these guys and that is essential to winning.

And if I'm Danny, I let the players know that a lot of NFL people think GG was the wrong move because of his track record in Buffalo. That its up to them to prove themselves right and GG right and mgmt right. We are all going to swim together of sink together.

And then Danny will ask the players to restructure contracts ...

In the spirit of beating this word into the ground, perhaps Fassel was what Snyder meant by continuity, since that's who he was reportedly ready to hire four years ago before he got Gibbs.

Pdiddy,
Your words are reassuring. So, if Grilliams becomes head coach and there is a new DC, what happens to the offense?

Vinnys next duty is to find a new team mascot

The Peter Principle in action yet again!

These guys are professional athletes with no mobility unless they're free agents. They'll play for whoever is the coach because otherwise they're going to get cut and not get paid. And there aren't many retreads from the 'Skins roster that will land elsewhere. I don't buy this thing about players "playing for" a specific coach. If a guy comes in with a winning attitude and program, he'll win over LFB, Jansen, Samuels, Washington, CP, and Moss, and from what we know about the locker room, that's what it takes.

In any event, I think all of this teeth gnashing is moot. GG is too good of a coach to not warrant even a single interview from Atlanta or Baltimore. The 'Skins are pulling together the complete staff because that's the St. Joe way. Remember when St. Joe was hired, he had flown up to Buffalo to interview GG and get all of the assistants and Space Cowboys in line before he walked up to the podium to greet the media and faithful.

Really though, how many players are going to look at Fassell (or any other guy other than GG) and say, "I'm so excited to play for this new guy instead of the guy I went to war with, cried with, made it to the playoffs with. So lets sit down and restructure my contract boss, because you NEED me to restructure ... and I'll be really nice to you. Because you listened to me .... NOT"

train rides $2.00

IPerfect. let us know what great talent you find on American Idol tonight, talent_evaluator. if haveing a life means sitting on the couch and watching american idol, then enjoy. you and vinny can sing the song we all like -

I am your brother, best friend forever!!

Posted by: bgmoneym20 | January 22, 2008 04:26 PM

I don't think people should talk about having a real cool life while typing on a Football Blog.

for the sake of continuity, i think dan snyder should re-hire joe gibbs. who better to keep the continuity continuing?

Well said, sblische. We're all nerds here. Except Lisa and jm220. We don't have titles for them yet.

welcome to the club sblische!

we all know whats going to happen...

we're so f'd

i say we organize a protest at redskins park

vinnys next duty is to bring primetime out of retirement. He says he now knows what mistakes he made with him and can turn that corner with this new promotion.

One more thing about GG and interviewing outside the 'Skins. There is no way Atlanta or Baltimore don't at least interview him. If they asked the 'Skins and were rebuffed and it was clear to GG that he was being jerked around, don't you think he would have at least made a peep to the media? Even a little teeny peep?

He's been working the phones through "Mr." Snyder and Vinny to get his staff in place and be ready to hit the ground running on day one.

That's my theory and I'm sticking with it.

Meanwhile, for the sake of continuity, I'm picking Spielberg for Best Director and "Casablanca" as Best Picture.

News from Bram Weinstein:

"Whether Fassel is a clear cut choice for the head coaching spot remains unknown as the Skins remain underground declining to publicly comment on any candidates... It is possible among the folks I talked to at the Park that Fassel could be hired as a QB coach/Offensive coordinator for whoever the next head coach may be which would lead one to believe that Gregg Williams remains very much in play.."

Diddy, if the Skins pass on GG, you are back to players who believe its about the money. Which means pride slips away. Which is where we were before Gibbs returned.

Will they play for someone else. Yup, but a little emotional edge in football goes a long way. And even if you only lose a couple guys, they can do a lot of damage. Imagine have 3 starters who turn Lloyd on you, not just one. Thats the risk

The players are professionals. They are going to play for whomever the new coach is. There won't be a team mutiny or some sort of player backlash by not restructuring their contracts. NFL contracts are not guaranteed. They have some guaranteed money in them, but if you get cut, that's it. If somebody won't restructure, then they have to go out and see if some other team will give them the same amount of money they were going to make, which isn't likely with these guys.
Let the players play, the coaches coach, and redskin insiders b*tch.

Snyder's History...

Players/Coaches:
Bruce Smith
Deon Sanders
Steve Spurrier
Jeff George
Mark Carrier
Adam Archeletta
Brandon Lloyd
Rod Gardner (1st round pick)

Fired or Released:
Brad Johnson
Marty Shottenheimer
Charley Casserly
Antonio Pierce
Stephen Davis (was still better than Trung Candidate
Brian Mitchell
Champ Bailey (putting him here, b/c Snyder's mismanagement with the team caused his stance that he would not re-sign)
Trading Draft Choice after draft choice for bad players (see T.J. Duckett)

During the 9-Year Snyder Regime:
-5 Head Coaches (looking for #6)
-Overall Record of 58-70, 1-2 in two playoff appearance

Meanwhile, for the sake of continuity, I'm picking Spielberg for Best Director and "Casablanca" as Best Picture.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 22, 2008 04:42 PM

Those are the easy ones. The "low-hanging fruit" to you corporate types. Who will be the next American Idol? And Celebrity Apprentice?

*** Stock Market Post ***

Diddy- You see AAPL after hours?

*** End Stock Market Post ****

Ravens' HC vacancy was filled a few days ago. I think the only current vacancies are Atlanta and Washington. [Indy crossed off the list yesterday and Seattle today.]

While we're at it, for the sake of continuity, Gilbert Arenas should relinquish the starting PG position to Antonio Daniels even after he's cleared to play. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

freakz--Did you read my early morning response to your comment about your ol' Dad and his idiomatic expression, "dis"? It was about two or three posts back.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | January 22, 2008 03:55 PM

Saw it, forgot to reply in the barrage of new posts and comments.

I know that old dogs can learn new tricks, but it's just that my dad doesn't really like much of anything produced after 1965 that doesn't involve Andy Griffith or James Garner. He loved the Beach Boys as a teenager, but thought they went off the deep end with "Pet Sounds." Hence my surprise.

BREAKING NEWS:

Actor Heath Ledger found dead...

Why oh why did we ever let Pierce go....that was the ultimate downfall of the organization....

Technically Snyder should get the pass on Rod Gardner. That's 100% Marty pick and Snyder wanted Moss all along. Probably a big part of the reason he fired Marty after one year.

But Marty did pick Smoot in the 2nd round which is a steal imo.

I think this Vinny announcement means the HC announcement is close by. They have clarified who does what. And the HC they have tentatively selected has already bought into it.

Fassel can do many things other than HC -- and that could be what is going on. But it does concern me that they bring him back on Monday, just before announcing Vinny. I don't think you do things that way if you're interviewing Fassel for OC.

After hearing of his new promotion vinny has decided to make the biggest splash of them all. He hopes to revive OJs career by making him the first player/coach in football. But instead of running back he'll switch to linebacker, the position he used to dream of before he killed his wife and her lover..................
....................................
Bring in the lions an tigers. Cue carnival music. GO.......

4-12, I don't follow the market day to day. I am highly diversified and protect myself from the cyclical ups and downs. As a result, I don't live the market on a daily basis, I just let it do its thing, knowing full well that the US of A has the world's most robust and strong economy and that the market's performance in the intervening 30 years from now to my retirement will outpace inflation and let me live my life in peace.

Now, if I were short on retirement funds and 10 years from retirement, my outlook would be dramatically different. But that's not likely given my current age and the time with which I have to play.

That said, AAPL vs. MSFT is a point of pride between me (the reformed gentleman who has seen the light and nobility of El Jobso) and my former coworkers (who are probably still waiting for Vista to boot up this morning).

WHOA. WTF about Heath Ledger!?!?!?! WTF!?!?!?!

Maybe it's the times...

but I'll pick Lawrence of Arabia for best picture.

My personal favorite is The Player, so that makes me a fan Robert Altman fan.

and a general manager to be named Raquetballplayer.

If it's true that Vinny and GG don't see eye to eye then this announcement means that we can say hello to our new HC - Fassel

To quote Florida Evans, upon learning of the death of her beloved husband James, "Damn! Damn! Damn!"

He's been working the phones through "Mr." Snyder and Vinny to get his staff in place and be ready to hit the ground running on day one.

That's my theory and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 22, 2008 04:42 PM

That makes the most sense. Snyder probably elevated Vinny to balance out the power between the two of them (Williams and Vinny).

I need to become a Yes Man. I spend too much time worrying and trying to do a good job at work.

No doubt Diddy. Totally with you on the diversification. I let the professionals do it for me. I just have my small "play" account for trading.

4-12, thanks for that info on svrluga and the WP. Not sure how many nats fans are up here, but svrluga is as good a beat reporter as there is.

Is sblische French for plash?

NEW YORK -- A New York Police Department spokesman says the actor Heath Ledger has been found dead at a downtown Manhattan residence.

Ledger starred in "Brokeback Mountain" and "The Brothers Grimm."

Ledger was found by his housekeeper in his Broome Street apartment with pills strewn all around him, according to police.

Initial reports that Ledger was found surrounded by pills and empty pill bottles. Damn. Damn Damn!

I don't understand the outrage. The roster this season was actually pretty good. We uncovered some good players in late rounds and Vinny gets some of the credit for that.

Vinny didn't have anything to do with clock management issues or fumble the ball on an end-around. You can blame him for bad trades if you want, but Gibbs was team president so everything had to go through him.

Now, at least there's a structure to things. All the hamsters have their GM.

Damn! Damn! Damn! is right. Man, that's just terrible. I know he was recently divorced or separated from Michelle Williams, the mother of his child.

Just sick to my stomach about that.

On the subject of continuity, I sure hope that the blog will maintain continuity under the new coach:

1. Unreasoned, visceral hate for "the Danny," Vinny, Mark Brunnell and everything they do or don't do.

2. Well-reasoned hate for Brandon Lloyd, Steve Spurrier.

3. Inability to get over Antonio Pierce, LaVar Arrington.

4. Undying love for Chris Cooley.

5. What-have-you-done-for-me-lately fickleness toward most of the real stars -- Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Jon Jansen.

6. Tolerance of Jasno's spelling.

7. Love for Cindy Boren.

For those wondering: I believe the bulk of principal photography on "The Dark Knight" had wrapped in Chicago over the summer and Honk Kong prior to Christmas. I think they only have mop up and effects work to do now.

I know it's not exactly respectful to Ledger to mention that now, but I'm sure some folks are wondering. Ledger looked incredible in that Joker role as well.

A real tragedy. Just terrible.

t_e, you can show that to your son, of course, he won't get it, but still ...

Is sblische French for plash?

Posted by: freakzilla | January 22, 2008 04:56 PM

quel est plash?

My first reaction to hearing Fossil (and I did mean to spell it that way) as potential HC was to shake my head and vurp (vomit and burp at the ame time). But as I look at the developments I have to say that the one thing no one is taking into consideration is that Danny and Vinny BOTH learned from Gibbs.

They are showing patience. In the past Danny would have thrown 50 mill at Cowher or Carrol and blown up everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) roster, staff, front office and the he would fire everyone 2 years later when it didn't work.

Now, like it or not, they have a real personnel guy in Vinny who was taught patience and the value of the draft by Gibbs. In fact, he may actually be able to build this team now that Gibbs taught Danny that buying talent doesn't work. The only downside is whether Vinny will be able to control (or stand up to) Danny's impulsiveness.

The Owner instead of throwing millions at the hottest name is actually doing his due diligence. Face it, if Vinny is the man and he and Grilliams don't get along then get someone on the same page. I'm not sold on Fossil but I don't have to be. If the entire organization in on the same page (and it takes time to do that) then continuity is exactly what you have.

I think alot of people here want Gibbs 3.0. Reality is Grilliams wouldn't be Gibbs 3.0 either.

George M on the Riggo show. Said it's one thing being in charge of the D and another to be the HC. Said Williams march to his own drum. Maybe they see it as not a good fit. They wanted to hire Fassel 4 years ago.

Face it, if Vinny is the man and he and Grilliams don't get along then get someone on the same page. I'm not sold on Fossil but I don't have to be. If the entire organization in on the same page (and it takes time to do that) then continuity is exactly what you have.

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | January 22, 2008 05:07 PM

Maybe Snyder would like that scenario. It would position him to be the deciding vote when Williams and Cerrato can't agree on something.

It's simply absurd to believe that Snyder is interviewing Fassel for OC.

My goodness...

By the end of the week,

Williams is gone.

Saunders is gone.

Fassel was a two-time coach of the year with the Giants and led them to the NFC championship before losing the Super Bowl to the Baltimore Ravens in 2000. He was 58-53-1 in seven seasons as the Giants coach, including a 4-12 record in his final year in which the team was decimated by injuries. He also has a 2-3 career record in the postseason and he led the Giants to an 11-5-1 record as a rookie head coach in 1997.

Maybe Snyder would like that scenario. It would position him to be the deciding vote when Williams and Cerrato can't agree on something.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | January 22, 2008 05:11 PM

There could be something to that. Isn't that how Cook, Gibbs, and Beathard worked together?

Don't know how much to make of this but George just said Vinny was the one that wanted the Reaper, L-2,and Roc Mac when others wanted to draft other players.

tThis is pretty serious here guys..IF Danny hires Fassel as the next HC...I AM no longer a Skins fan...I quit! This is coming from a life long die hard fan...I'm 38 and I also will let my 43 year old family season tickets go...If Fassel Is Hired IM DONE!

Letting them try to run the team and fail is the only way we will get better football people in the front office. And if we are all wrong and by some miracle they do a good job Great. We are going to have to suck it up and hope for better results. I am in dallas country so I hope we get it together soon.

I feel like the Bud Lite commercial guy!!!

Dude, Vinny?
Dude, Cerrato?
Dude, Are you kiddin me?
Dude, Vinny Cerrato??
Dude, Seriously?
Dude....................................

quel est plash?

Posted by: sblische | January 22, 2008 05:05 PM

"Plash" is Jasno for "splash."