no body wants this position...is snyder chasing them away? what's going on?

what a freaking embarassment this franchise has become.

WE SUCK AGAIN.

Yeah right, that is why he stayed here interviewing for 20 hours...his "heart was in Neew York" , my A$$ !!!

paging barno.

It seems to me, only a coach hard-up for any kind of work will be the only one taking this job. Did someone say Fa...?

I have come, not only to accept the fact that Fassel will be the next HC, but I actually welcome it. Two years from now, when the Redskins are 3-13 and an embarrassment to the league, The Danny will realize that he does not know football. He will then hire a GM to run the team, and pout in his personal theme parks (formally known as six flags before they all shut down). Then, and only then, the Redskins will regain their former glory.

Its either this, or I have to accept the fact that I will never again see the Redskins in a superbowl, unless its on ESPN-Classic...

paging barno.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2008 02:35 PM

wait for it...

It was a very thorough process, and in the end it was just agreed that he would stay in New York.

There's that word again!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

you knew he couldn't wait to rip into the Skins again - especially after the good news about Emmitt Thomas, #28 and #81....it was breaking him up being unable to tear 'em down.

ahahahahahah

get a new beat guy.

He's so knowledgeable about football already, can we just get li'l Danny to coach the team himself? Maybe we could convince him that, like in baseball, the coaches have to wear the uniforms as well. Just thinking about the little fella sitting on the sidelines in shoulderpads would give me a smile, probably 1 more smile than I can expect from the Fassel-coached Redskins next year.

Fine. I'll coach the team. Seriously.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

you knew he couldn't wait to rip into the Skins again - especially after the good news about Emmitt Thomas, #28 and #81....it was breaking him up being unable to tear 'em down.

ahahahahahah

get a new beat guy.

Posted by: makalb18 | February 7, 2008 02:37 PM

barno got a new user name

There is a reason that the DC and OC have been hired. It has been fossil all along.

Another year on prozac(spelling).

dude.. no good coach wants to be danny's puppet.. only those that are willing to take any head coaching job will come here.. danny boy is destroying this franchise and has no clue he's even doing it.. its gotten to the point that he can't even overpay for one.. sell the team, please !!!

This is the part we need clarification on:

As previously reported, the Redskins did not offer Spagnuolo the job and he departed home to New Jersey early this morning, around 1 am. League sources said after discussing his options with his wife Spagnuolo was to call owner Daniel Snyder today with his intensions, and at that time he opted to stay in New York and take a new deal from the Giants.

Spags went home to New Jersey to discuss "his options" and call "Mr." Snyder with his "intentions". But the opening of the paragraph was that the Redskins did not offer Spags the job. So, what exactly were the "options" he was going to discuss with his wife?

Before we can make the assumption of a "devalued" job, we need to know the proper sequence of events.

Also, Mora is from Seattle and, knowing a few of the assistants on Holmgren's staff quite well, I know for a fact that he has always been considered the heir apparent to Holmgren. They wanted to gauge his maturity level in a position coach job, and see how Holmgren's staff reacted to him before making a decision. As it is, many on Holmgren's staff will likely retire with him, and Mora will get to more or less pick his own people. Mora dropping out of the 'Skins job was NOT an indictment on the Redskins. It's the absolute perfect fit and perfect situation (good team, good fans, good stadium, and Paul Allen is building a huge megacomplex for the Seahawks in Renton, south of Seattle).

As much as I hate to say it, Seattle has one of the best organizations in the NFL. Obviously, the 'Skins do not, but for Mora to choose his hometown team is hardly surprising.

"League sources say that idea is ludicrous and that the Redskins were very much interested in him after 28 hours of meetings and he was very confident in his ability to be a head coach. "

It seems like I've heard this before with what 'sources' said about another HC canidate.

Barno is going to rip this joint....

. . . and then at the conclusion of the press conference announcing the results of his coaching search and organizational restructuring, Mr. Snyder finally let loose with the punchline: "The Aristocrats!"

I appreciate the updates JLC, but the conjecture is a little much. Pete Carrol and Bill Cowher are not/were not going to coach 'anywhere' in the NFL this year regardless of the front office setup, owner, city, etc.

If it's such a 'devalued' position, why are quality coaches lining up for marathon interview sessions with Dan Snyder?? Stick to the facts sir..

makalb18

What's your explanation for turn downs by 2-4 different people (Mora and Spags are definitely on the turn down list, Cowher and Carrol are probables on it)?

Is it bad beltway traffic? An over-inflated housing market? The DC/MD restaurant smoking bans?

Just curious

Adam

Most NFL head coaches are given the power to hire coaches they know, trust and feel they can work with. This can't be a good sign that the HC is presiding over someone else's staff - that of the owner... or the top coordinator. But it still comes down to winning. If the HC wins division titles and playoff games, he'll stay on the job regardless who his assistant coaches are. But I'm sure he'd feel more comfortable with coaches he knows, respects and trusts rather than coaches the owner knows, respects and trusts.

OK, this sounds like the Skins, but its Rick Gosselin writing in the Dallas paper. You can fill in the names (Jones, Philips, Garrett).

Is Jerry Jones really the best role model for Dan Snyder?

"Looks like a highly devalued position. Hard to spin it any other way." -Jasno

Yes, Mr. barno, I also would like to hear the counter-spin. Remember, looking for argument, not simple contradiction. Begin.

Other than Joe Gibbs, what ex-Redskin coach is going to recommend working for little Danny? Other than those needing fast cash, Redskin coaching job is a hard sell under current ownership. How in the hell did Synder amass all that money with such poor managerial and leadership skills?

loyalty, maybe dan can learn a little thing called loyalty. he wanted to spags wanted to stay with his players that he had a bond with. we will never be any good until dan learns loyallty. not the kind they showed brian mitchell, bobby mitchell, lavar arrington, antonio pierce, champ bailey, greg williams, and on and on

Bill Cowher and Pete Carroll didn't want the job under this front office structure at all.

By Jason La Canfora | February 7, 2008; 2:29 PM ET

Really? It was because of "this front office structure" that Cowher didn't want this job? You mean he hasn't been saying for about 2 years now that he won't be returning to coaching this year? You mean his reasons for turning down all the other teams that wanted him was because of other reasons, but he had a specific reason for why he didn't want the Redskins job? Really?

Sorry, but I'm not buying it.

"Looks like a highly devalued position. Hard to spin it any other way."

Mr. Larry Mich...,excuse me--Barno, go ahead and rant.

no body wants this position...is snyder chasing them away? what's going on?
Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 02:31 PM
It is two fold.

Point 1 - Everyone knows what the Redskins is about. The are dysfunctional, but they hand out cash out the WAHZOO so everyone turns a blind eye the dysfunctional head....

Point 2 - Last year. Players started leaking to the media that the Redskins wanted them in order to parlay a bigger payday from other teams. This year, coaches are doing the same exact thing. They are feeding these reporters (all not some) all the fluff so the owner will offer them more $$$ to stay with lesser responsibilities to handle instead of taking the the job with the dysfunctional team......

Sad to say, but its true.........

PDdidy, its possible to leave without an offer, but a request to "talk some more", like after talking to the wife. Maybe after 28 hours, there might be SOMETHING where bouncing the idea off the wife might help a guy clear things up in his head.

Press clipping should read:
At the end of the day, LaMonte said, we realized that by coming down here, we could use the redskins to get a better deal from the giants. This is where spags wanted to stay, and we figured, why not use synder and the skins to do that.. wouldn't you ? besides, my client would actually want to hire his own staff and have a say on how things are run.. but we truly appreciate dan letting us use him..

The Redskins are once again, the biggest laughingstock in the NFL. Hail.

I just noticed that the poll results are now essentially opposite of what they have been for weeks. The question asks fans what they think of Fossil. The responses were overwhelmingly negative for weeks and now, with the announcement that Spags will stay in NY, the responses are suddenly overwhelmingly positive! Is The Post working with Snyder to court Fossil? Was the data reset? This smells ridiculously fishy.

Does anyone else find it ironic, that the Chinese New year just started and this year just happens to the Year of the Rat, perfect for Snyder being in the forefront of this circus. What a joke this guy is, brace yourselves my friends, when you see it here that Fassel will be on that plane coming back from Phoenix. Here's to the Ulitimate Rat, cheers!

Yep, we're a joke. No way to sugar coat it now.

F YOU SNYDER!

I just saw that Redskins have hired another Cerrato tie-in...John Palermo from University of Miami to be the D-Line coach. He worked with Cerrato at Notre Dame. I guess this "thorough" search couldn't wait another day or two to allow the HC to pick at least 1 of his staff!

Ah Cowher and Carrol weren't going to coach in the NFL this year anyway. Snyder gained alot of knowledge interviewing Spags.

Snyder got Fassil's approval to hire Zorn and Blache

I believe Fassil was the scapegoat in Baltimore. They have never had an offense.

Fassil took the Giants to the Super Bowl. He might be a good coach here. We have a franchise QB entering his prime with a solid defense.

Spags went home to New Jersey to discuss "his options" and call "Mr." Snyder with his "intentions". But the opening of the paragraph was that the Redskins did not offer Spags the job. So, what exactly were the "options" he was going to discuss with his wife?

Before we can make the assumption of a "devalued" job, we need to know the proper sequence of events.

Also, Mora is from Seattle and, knowing a few of the assistants on Holmgren's staff quite well, I know for a fact that he has always been considered the heir apparent to Holmgren. They wanted to gauge his maturity level in a position coach job, and see how Holmgren's staff reacted to him before making a decision. As it is, many on Holmgren's staff will likely retire with him, and Mora will get to more or less pick his own people. Mora dropping out of the 'Skins job was NOT an indictment on the Redskins. It's the absolute perfect fit and perfect situation (good team, good fans, good stadium, and Paul Allen is building a huge megacomplex for the Seahawks in Renton, south of Seattle).

As much as I hate to say it, Seattle has one of the best organizations in the NFL. Obviously, the 'Skins do not, but for Mora to choose his hometown team is hardly surprising.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 02:39 PM

Spags had options. He had an offer from the Giants that wasn't going anywhere. He opted to pull his name from the Redskins candidate list.

"Mora will get to more or less pick his own people. Mora dropping out of the 'Skins job was NOT an indictment on the Redskins. It's the absolute perfect fit and perfect situation (good team, good fans, good stadium, and Paul Allen is building a huge megacomplex for the Seahawks in Renton, south of Seattle)."

How is this not an indictment on the redskins? Everything listed here could have been offered to Mora, only a year earlier and probably with more money. The only draws that Seattle has that the Redskins don't is a "better" (read: louder) stadium and they're in Mora's hometown. Snyder has the OPTION to offer everything and more to get any head coach out there. It's clear that he won't budge, and it's clear that several candidates would rather wait it out than work under Snyder and this FO. Snyder has made this vacancy downright unattractive. Good thing we've got Jim Fassel to fall back on.

This reminds me of the old Groucho Marx quote: "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member."

We can flip it to Dan Snyder saying "I wouldn't hire any head coach that would work for me."

I for, could care less what Barno's take on this post is.

"it was just agreed that he would stay in New York"

This says he didn't get the job. If he decided not to take it, it would read, "he decided to stay in New York."

Seriously, Jason, stop the nonsense. Coaches are given an opportunity to pull out when they're no longer being considered. Mora, Gregg, and now Spags have exercised this option.

Fassel has this year to prove he can do the job. We're a playoff team. Anything less than the number 5 seed is a disappointment.

If by the end of year two we suck (it's perfectly likely), please Dan fire Vinny & Fossil and hire somebody with successful GM experience so we can stop squandering picks and paying top dollar for aging/unproven players. Look at how NY, Dallas and NE do it! Losing is bad business!

Fassel has this year to prove he can do the job. We're a playoff team. Anything less than the number 5 seed is a disappointment.

If by the end of year two we suck (it's perfectly likely), please Dan fire Vinny & Fossil and hire somebody with successful GM experience so we can stop squandering picks and paying top dollar for aging/unproven players. Look at how NY, Dallas and NE do it! Losing is bad business!

Interesting that so many on here are now calling for a "barno rant" against that hack, um, I mean Jason La Canfora.

Well, you don't need a barno rant to see that this beat reporter has long held much contempt for the organization he is assigned to cover. He is not non-biased. "Objective" is not in his vocabulary.

And if you don't believe many members of the media who are supposed to remain objective but actually have their own agendas, I suggest you get a job in a newsroom.

Either that, or watch this season of the Wire (which focuses on a beat reporter who makes things up to further his career).

I wish Dan would realize that if he would hand the team over to a legit GM he'd have more time to go hang out on space ships with Tom Cruise. Who knows? Maybe even John Travolta would be there too!

yup, Janso's to fault....quit lying to us Janso... your willing bad things to happen to skins....

hi-sterical....

PDiddy - I have no more info than you but I don't think there's any problem here. Recently I interviewed for a job that is asking for a 2-year commitment (there's a visa involved so it's complicated). I was told to think about that and get back to them. I was never "offered" the job, terms other than that commitment period were not discussed. But had i been willing to make that commitment, it was understood that I would *likely* get the job (pursuant to all things considered).

Sounds about like what happened here. Snider says think about it - see if your wife wants to live in DC, etc. Then we'll talk about more particulars.

Anyway, my theory is that Danny has been after the mystery candidate all along (the Human Jawbone?) and delayed this thing to find more big names or convince the big name to come for big money. Now it looks like we're gonna get Fossel. Kinda a let down, no?

1st Question for Fassel in his Press Conference:

How do you feel about coaching a franchise where the mere mention of your name caused an outpouring of negativity from the fan base when none of the other canidates created the same reaction?

1st Question for Dan Snyder:

How does this hiring process fulfill your promise of continuity and how do you sell your fan base on the one guy that 90% of your fans said they would be satisfied with anyone but him?

Get your barf bags out... you'll soon see snyder at the podium telling everyone how this extensive process led to the best man.. jim fassel..
believe me, its going to happen.. he'll spin it well, but we'll all know he's lying through his teeth.. but he'll have his yes-man and thats what counts.. finally the three stooches reincarnated..

Seriously, Jason, stop the nonsense. Coaches are given an opportunity to pull out when they're no longer being considered. Mora, Gregg, and now Spags have exercised this option.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 7, 2008 02:53 PM

Joe, give it up my friend. This beat reporter has no agenda, he is just calls them as he sees them. It is us who are blinded by our burgundy and gold glasses, remember?

Just kidding! Don't ever stop...

we're not calling for a "barno rant". We're acknowledging the fact that you are like Roger Rabbit and Jasno is Judge Doom tapping "shave and a hair cut..."

A source at Snyder's mansion is saying that Spags, Cowher or Pete Carrol didn't get the job because they said something that could have been interpreted as an insult towards Joe Gibbs.

Looks like this waiting accomplished one thing. Putting us further behind everyone else in preparation for next season. That doesn't help the Giants, does it?

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 02:55 PM

Barno - you have an acute understanding of sarcasm. Bravo.

I'll trade you three stooches for one Mooch.

Again, I am not calling for Barno's take....ever...I vote keep it to your self.

It was a very thorough process, and in the end it was just agreed that he would stay in New York.

There's that word again!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 7, 2008 02:36 PM

One time when I was growing up in Florida, we killed a water moccasin and I dropped it onto a nearby fire ant mound. I went back to the fire ant mound a few days later, and all that was left was the snake's skeleton.

Those ants sure were thorough.

Jim Zorn for head coach!!!!!

I 2nd that CL.

Lets face it. For most of Gibbs 2.0 Gibbs was the ceo. You can tell when he started to actually be the headcoach of the team.

Fassil should do better. Everyone needs to stop being so negative. You have no idea what is going on or being said behind closed doors.

Btw - I was being sarcastic, in case you missed it.

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 02:55 PM

This was neither an argument nor a contradiction. Just straight up allegation.

I'm on the chRIs Larry bandwagon. Was pro-barno, now just bored with barno.

Now who is going to get the franchise tag? I say Ethan Albright. Sure, he'll stay for vet minimum (even after his Pro Bowl), but we got a tag laying around that we just MUST use. plash!

From the Washington Times, here is our new D-Line Coach:
An NFL source said that John Palermo, who coached at Notre Dame in 1988-89 when Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato was the recruiting coordinator, will be hired as Washington's defensive line coach, filling the void created by Greg Blache's promotion to defensive coordinator last month.

Palermo, now at the University of Miami, has coached in bowls in 17 of his 27 seasons. He coached Big Ten Defensive Players of the Year Erasmus James and Wendell Bryant at Wisconsin and Lombardi Trophy winner Chris Zorich, later a Redskin, at Notre Dame. Palmero was head coach at Austin Peay in 1990.

The Danny is a horrible owner...Has this guy lost touch with reality? Hey Danny, we have tried it your way since '99. And guess what? It has not worked! If you were a smart owner, you would keep yopur hands out of the pot and just sign the checks. Danny boy, you have never been a scout, a head coach or anything football related. Hire some smart football people and let the football people make the football decisons. Hey Danny, having you making football decisons is like having a second grader tell me where to invest my money in the stock market.

somehow i feel like Dan gonna sign Russ Grimm. I also feel like he interviewed him already, while he went to AZ for the super bowl. Who ever Dan Snyder signs, other than JIM FASSEL, is going to be a surprise. And i believe he will make the right decision this time.

SportsTalk 980 reporting that it's going to be Fassel.

Don't forget Gibbs ran Patrick Ramsey out of here without giving him a chance and wanted to give up those draft picks for Brunell and wanted to trade for Duckett.

Barno,

Did I miss something, what exactly has Dan Snyder done to earn your undying allegiance. Are you on his Payroll, is your name really Vinny? You and "Joe from Raleigh" should get together and have Jason bashing party, maybe Snyder Communications could sponser it. Jason does a great job of critizing a joke of organization. When the Snyder starts doing things respectfully then maybe he'll get treated with some respect from the media. Until then keep grillin' them Jason!

From the NY Daily News:

Lamonte, by the way, insisted that Spagnuolo had a great meeting with Snyder and that his withdrawal had nothing to do with any misgivings about the Redskins organization. However, several people in the Giants' organization had warned him about Snyder's meddling ways - as evidenced by the fact that the Redskins' offensive and defensive coordinators have already been hired - and the fact that the 'Skins are currently nearly $20 million over the projected 2008 salary cap.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2008/02/07/2008-02-07_steve_spagnuolo_withdraws_name_from_reds.html

Seems to back up Jasno there, barno. Just sayin'

People who have a wife and/or kids. Take the next 3 years off like I am going to. Have the sundays to yourself for the next 3 years.

If you are a truely diehard skins fan, hiring of fassel, vinny as the gm is the perfect thing that can happen to this team coming off from a playoff run. Think about it. Snider STILL hasn't learned his lesson. He STILL thinks he can do it his way.

After 3 years snider's product is going to turn in to shti and millions more will join people like me thus turning snider into a curse word.

so I urge you if you have wife and kids...join me in taking the next 3 years off from snider's product. Snider's product isn't championship material. YOU KNOW THAT! So why not make your wife happy and spend more time with the kids? or donate your time to charity?

We are headed into a worse recession than what we faced in 2001 without any wars looming in the horizon (thank god!) to pull us out of it. Take the extra time that you will have and learn new skills, take classes, go back to school. Give yourselves an edge in the market place.

I can go on and on about what you can do with the extra time you will have if you didn't follow this bratty rich boy's crappy toy.

I know some of you will have a dilemma and question if you're being loyal to the team or not. And to that I say there's more to life than to keep watching a boy play with his toys.

ps...jasno's conclusions are right but not his supporting arguments.

Now who is going to get the franchise tag? I say Ethan Albright.

Posted by: dcsween | February 7, 2008 03:03 PM

hahaha yesss

Barno,

I think you view this "blog" in the wrong light. Think of this more along the lines of a column, like Wilbon or Sally's on the post.

If you want straight, unbiased news you probably won't find it anywhere. Fox, CNN, and just about every news outlet, regardless of their unbiased intentions, end up being bias. Its human nature to want to share an opinion, and argue for or against it.

Its a blog about all things Redskin. Jason is a blogger/reporter. Jason has an opinion. Jason weaves an opinion into Redskin news. We then reply with our own opnion, some more enlightened than others.
Its noble that you feel all news should be unbiased, but sometimes you just have to let it go, or start your own news outlet...

Grimmy!!!!!

Protocol be damned. Give me a Grimmy over a Fossil any day. Failing that, Monty Burns!

Dan The Man and Vinny are not thinking clearly - and have not for many years - except for hiring JoeG. Too many hours spent in cigar filled rooms with HC potential clouded their brains. Why even bother to interview a DC for HC when you already have your defensive coaches lined up?
We need an HC that knows offense.

REDSKINS FANS- Below you will find a link with Jim Fassel Quotes - This should help you get prepared for all the BS that we will have to look forward to
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/jim_fassel/

Danny's slogan

"REDSKINS HEAD COACHING JOB...WE ARE STILL BETTER THAN RAIDERS HEAD COACHING JOB'

scotchirishprince,

appreciate the comments. You're definitely right on some level that everyone gives their opinions one way or another, that is indeed human nature. But don't you agree that there is, or at least should be, a difference between an op-ed writer like Wilbon who is paid to give his opinions and a beat reporter who is paid to report?

***Maybe they shouldn't give blogs to beat reporters

Don't forget Gibbs ran Patrick Ramsey out of here without giving him a chance and wanted to give up those draft picks for Brunell and wanted to trade for Duckett.

Posted by: jhess18 | February 7, 2008 03:06 PM

Makes you wonder if Ramsey could have been another Eli Manning if given 3 years to grow into the position.

Jamesjb32
"It takes a little while to build, ... It doesn't happen overnight, but I didn't think we'd struggle this badly now."

Jim Fassel quote

I envision this being the quote we hear from Fassel 10 games into the 2008 season.....

Here is one we can all latch onto:

"It takes a little while to build, ... It doesn't happen overnight, but I didn't think we'd struggle this badly now."

My wife and I went to the Miami opener last season. $30 parking, $5 bottle of water and a $60 food bill. It's sad when you have to sell a kidney to go to a Redskin's game. What an enjoyable outing. Danny has ruined this team which has a rich history as a classy organization. Might as well let the player's coach themselves. Schottenheimer was a good coach. Danny the ego ruined his short tenure as head coach. Sounds like we are in for another Spurrier like scenario. I for one will be watching next seasons Redskins games on my HD TV.

Snyder's view of continuity:

http://www.despair.com/consistency.html

I just saw that Redskins have hired another Cerrato tie-in...John Palermo from University of Miami to be the D-Line coach. He worked with Cerrato at Notre Dame. I guess this "thorough" search couldn't wait another day or two to allow the HC to pick at least 1 of his staff!

Posted by: andrewtimbie | February 7, 2008 02:51 PM

Redskins One will be on it's way to offer the HC job to Bob Davie soon.

I still think Fassel will be announced tommorow. He might be successful next year.

But I just don't feel the organization can build any long term success around Jim Fassel.

He would probably be here for a year or two until Danny gets tired of him and he would be fired and we will having these same conversations again.

That is what really frustrates me as a fan! I'm afraid don't we have a long term plan for the success of the team.

If Grimm were to get a shot at HC i feel like we could build around him long term. He could bring a hard nosed no BS attitude to the team.

jinx scotchirishprince, but me some coke...

Yesterday, on the radio (I think it was on the John Riggins show), while the interviews with Spags were still going on, a New York broadcaster (sorry I don't recall the name) was asked about Spags leaving the Giants. Without hesitation and with confidence the broadcaster responded that Spags isn't going anywhere, the Giants will pay him to stay.

It seems the whole world knew the Spags interview with the Skins was a complete sham even while it was still going on!

"It takes a little while to build, ... It doesn't happen overnight, but I didn't think we'd struggle this badly now."

We will be hearing this alot next season!

"I would say that whatever our numbers are, they're probably pretty much league-wide and probably pretty much society-wide. I don't think our team is any different from any other team or society as a whole. I don't think those numbers are out of whack. The hard thing is we hold these players to different standards. That's going to be the difficult part, figuring out how we are going to bridge that gap if these guys can't be within these normal societal numbers."

Jim Fassel quote

Now thats the speak of true politician (or idiot)! Mr. Fassel, welcome to Washington!

Makes you wonder if Ramsey could have been another Eli Manning if given 3 years to grow into the position.

Posted by: jimwell | February 7, 2008 03:15 PM

He certainly learned how to take a sack.

Is Washington turning into Oakland? Why do the younger owners (ie Cuban, Snyder) insist on letting their ego's manage and lead their teams rather than sense and history (Kraft, Mara, Tisch)...

Dude this is a blog about the Redskins. I don't think anyone is confusing this for an article in the newspaper.

I haven't always agreed with everything JLa has said but I can't think of a single time where he stated something as fact that turned out to be untrue. Not once.

Does JLa appear to have some contempt for this organization? Yes to me he does. Is it well documented that they don't get along with him? Yes. Don't confuse that with distorting the facts or false reporting.

I third JM's second to CL's first.

***Maybe they shouldn't give blogs to beat reporters

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 03:14 PM

Barno - you are the most weakminded 14 year old I've ever seen posting on the internets. If this blog is so offensive to you, why do you spend so much time on it, day after day after day?

Bottom line...who cares who's the head coach in 2008

All Danny is doing is buying 1 year so he can throw 10 millions at Cowher.

If you are the head coach for Redskins in 2008...you get

(a) handcuffed by being 20 mil over the cap
(b) have essentially your entire staff picked for you already
(c) have to deal with an aging offensive line with 2 starters coming back from injury, defense having to replace Taylor, defense with Rogers & McIntosh who won't be 100% for some time, ....
(d) have to deal with the fact that Cowher is coming out of retirement in 2009 and will very likely be Danny's 1st choice unless you go to the super bowl...

What coach in their right mind will want to take the job

Looks like a highly devalued position. Hard to spin it any other way.

What do we know? VinnyDAN inherited a team with a GM and Coach. He fired the GM, never hired another one, giving the power to Vinny, and then fired the Coach.

He was told by everyone that football people should make football decisions and marketing people should make marketing decisions and fellatio experts should continue to perform fellatio, so he hired MartyBall and made him coach and GM.

VinnyDAN did not like being told someone else was smarter about ANYTHING in the friggin world, and promptly fired MartyBall.

He reinstated the autofellater as defacto GM and hired the BallCoach to coach 'em up, and let the autofellatio expert make draft/roster decisions. The BallCoach found out he couldn't coach 'em up in the NFL and ran home to college.

VinnyDAN was then prepared to hire another fellatio expert (Coach Facile) to be HC, leaving Vinny as the de facto GM, when the only man in the world to whom he would have ever ceded authority, told him he wanted the job. Gibbs is, and apparently remains, the only person in the world who VinnyDAN is okay being told is smarter than him (sidebar - I get that, being VinnyDAN's age, Gibbs is semi-divine to me as well).

But Gibbs is gone (as is, I guess, some of his aura for VinnyDAN) and VinnyDAN is back to business as usual. Cowher and Carrol were never real candidates. People (the media, TK, etc.) confused Snyder's love of big name players with a love of big name coaches. Yes he loves the big fish. If Cowher had said - Yes sir, you pick the players and I will coach 'em up - Cowher can have the job. But any real coach with real power wants his players to respect and fear HIM, more then the player respects and fears his position coach. So no one with any leverage will take this job. Cowher can wait till next year and get gobs of money and control, as can Carrol and probably Spaz. More already did it. Caldwell got it before he even make the trip here. SexyRexy got $ just cause someone said they wanted to talk to him.

VinnyDAN changed for Gibbs, but he did not change. Autofellatio is the new status quo in Ashburn and only a coach willing to live with that (read that as with no other choices or prospects) would take it.

I pray for for Meeks, or even Mooch, but expect that we will get Coach Facile, cause the one thing that would never occur to him, is to forget to swallow.

"There will always be someone richer and dumber than you"

think about it, Danny ...

oh and it's hard to believe that some of these owners have actually been successful in business isn't?

dogs and cats sleeping together, frogs falling from the sky, day is night, beat reporters with blogs!!!!!!

I just can't make sense of the world?????!!!

980am says fassel deal is done

I am not a Snyder fan and I'm still beyond angry at him about Gregg Willimas BUT - as some of you have previously mentioned - JLC comments are BS! JLC reported that Pete Carroll, Bill Cowher and Jim Mora did not want the Skins job. Well, Jim Mora knew Holmgren was going to retire next season and that he would be made HC so that is why he pulled out......Bill Cowher has said all along that he did not plan to coach next season and never deviated from that statement and Carroll has always said if he coaches in the NFL again he wants full control. Pete Carroll did not even interview with ATL but did with Snyder.

What about Jason Garrett turning down the Ravens? Thought that was a world class organization (according to JLC).

Is Washington turning into Oakland? Why do the younger owners (ie Cuban, Snyder) insist on letting their ego's manage and lead their teams rather than sense and history (Kraft, Mara, Tisch)...

Posted by: nnn | February 7, 2008 03:18 PM

Dude...did you even bother to check the record of Dallas Mavericks before Cuban took over? They were consistently one of the worst teams in the league. Their success has a lot to do with Cuban

Don't even compare danny to Cuban

This is just like regular folks looking for new jobs while they already have one. This way Spags was able to use the Skins to have the Giants counter (which they did with a lucrative 3 year deal). And will probably replace Coughlin when he retires (though Gregg thought the same about Gibbs retiring). I really don't know if he used the Skins but was able to take the place job out of the two.

Why do the younger owners (ie Cuban, Snyder) insist on letting their ego's manage and lead their teams rather than sense and history (Kraft, Mara, Tisch)...

Posted by: nnn | February 7, 2008 03:18 PM

Dude - Cuban's ego can manage my Redskins any day of the week. Did you see the disaster that the Mavs were before he bought them? Maybe he's been in the limelight, but they've just won since he got the reins. The Danny is all negatives, no positives.

I for, could care less what Barno's take on this post is.
Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 02:53 PM

Cl - My calling for Barno was more of a Capt. Obvious comment....

would someone please call snyder and tell him that al groh will take the job....hahaha

My guess is that barno keeps hanging around for the football discussion, jibba jabba and information. He overly expresses his opinion about Jasno and it seems like he's kind of realized recently that the blog isn't the same thing as a news article. The blog can have Jasno's opinions in it. The "Redskins Notebook" article should be devoid of opinion but not the blog.

barno needs to understand that the blog has opinions. Now to his point that beat reporters maybe shouldn't have blogs. I disagree. It is a good forum to pass along rumors that don't necessarily stand up to the criteria needed for actual news.

SportsTalk 980 reporting that it's going to be Fassel.
Posted by: CMoney1 | February 7, 2008 03:05 PM

Haven't they been reporting this for 2 weeks now???

nevermind that was an old post

Don't forget Gibbs ran Patrick Ramsey out of here without giving him a chance ...

Posted by: jhess18 | February 7, 2008 03:06 PM

Wrong. Gibbs named him the starter. Then Ramsey had a miserable pre-season -- completely stunk the place up and Gibbs pulled the trigger on him after the first game, when he again threw an interception in the end zone. Getting rid of Ramsey was one of Gibbs better personnel moves.

I hope there will be a press conference tomorrow introducing Gregg Williams as the new coach of the Redskins. This would be preceded by Ashton Kuchner laughing and telling all Redskins fans that "YOU HAVE BEEN PUNKED!!!"

Lisa--Nice perspective on Jasno's post. Thanks for that.

Next up, the Redskins announce that they're changing the team colors to burgundy and amber, to reflect the team's Fassel-ization.

At least we have the Wizzturds, Crapitals, Borioles and Trashionals to watch.

scotchirishprince,

sadly, the latter, my friend. if danny were the type to admit when he was in over his head, and change the structure of the front office, he'd have done so already. we're doomed until he sells the team. if not for the steadying presence of Gibbs the past four years, this team would already be the Knicks. Flagship franchise, great history, great fans, management that is rotten to the core.

Sportstalk 980 is reporting that Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are the two biggest morons in professional sports today.

Regarding JLac,

If it smells like sh$t, tastes like sh$t, and looks like sh$t, it is my burdundy and gold brethren, SH$T!!

Jason's reporting is fact and fair , which Barno, is objective reporting. What, he can't be critical? This isn't Disney; the Redskin's are not the NFL's model franchise and no Barno, there is no Santa Claus.

4th, gotcha my man...i just wanted to go on record as not caring...

And Lisa sometimes people say things they don't mean. I know its hard to believe, but its true. Weren't you the one who stated millions of times, Gibbs was staying b/c he "said so".....I belive Janso is more right than wrong and believe nothing these public figures say as official statements to the press.

No one can convince me this is an attractive job at this point.

But whateves Lisa, you get mad props b/c I connect your prediction about the Giants to their SB in my mind forever now..That was solid...

Could this be the idea? find a stop gap for a year, and if they fail cut and grab another guy next year?

Didn't Tom Cruise make a football movie? Perfect, then he is qualified in Danny's world.

Who in their right mind would give up Greg Williams for Fassell? .. Snyder. Funny, even with Vinny's promotion nobody even knows who he is.

I'll blame all of this on Jack Kent Cooke. His master plan of making us wish he was still around by selling the team is working beautifully.

The only person who would take this job is someone who will be more than happy to be a yes man to Snyratto. This franchise is quickly gaining ground on the Oakland Raiders as the most embarrasingly inept franchise in the NFL. The only credibility the Redskins have is their ability to squeeze money from a loyal fanbase well into the billions of dollars. I no longer feel it is an afront to my fandom to relinquish my love of the Redskins in favor of a new team one day soon. The next step can't be far behind.

Snyder is competing with Al Davis to devalue his coaching positions.

Snyder said, when he bought the team, that management [JKCooke, Jr, back then] was unresponsive to the fans.

Well, look who has fallen into the same trap. All the fans know that the Redskins need a premium football man running the show, and for Snyder to duck into the shadows.

From 1999, when Snyder called in Norv Turner for some tongue-lashings following key losses, it was clear that Snyder had no idea what he was doing from the standpoint of managing the football guys - the coaches and the players.

Now, he is finally getting unequivocal feedback from the market. The market is telling him that he stinks.

He continues to be guilty of the same sin that he accused JKCooke, JR. of when he bought the team.

Unresponsive. Ultimately more interested in himself than in the team, its fans, and its coaches.

"Deep inside, I know we can fix this thing and get going, ... Now, the clock is running."

Another Fassel quote we'll here a lot of next year.

Regarding JLac,

If it smells like sh$t, tastes like sh$t, and looks like sh$t, it is my burdundy and gold brethren, SH$T!!

Jason's reporting is fact and fair , which Barno, is objective reporting. What, he can't be critical? This isn't Disney; the Redskin's are not the NFL's model franchise and no Barno, there is no Santa Claus.

Posted by: duh2mag | February 7, 2008 03:28 PM

You're saying that you believe Jason when he says that Cowher turned it down because of the front office structure? Since Jason said it it must be fact right? Get real. Cowher has consistently said he's not gonna coach now.

listen, it is ridiculous to think that a blog is an opinion free place. yes, jasno is a beat reporter, and he always does a great job of trying to feed us hamsters with any little tidbits he can from around the league. that's the great thing about a blog; you dont have to be 100% correct all the time because this isnt going into print. if we can throw our 2 cents in all the time, why cant jasno who has been giving us this wonderful blog for over a year and a half. we are all addicted to this thing like crack and probably will be until we can get on that A&E show intervention, but until then, let jasno do his thang cuz he does it well. i am a skins fan, but to think that snyder hasnt devalued our HC job in the past month alone is ridiculous. maybe we should be more objective as fans and realize that if the only coach we can get is fassel, then there is probably something wrong. good work jason, and before yall criticize him think how it would be if someone were at your job watching your every movement and when you happen to do something that is not to their liking they start bashing you for it. come on, its a blog for christ sake, and we should take it for what its worth. that's my 2 cents

Great....

Now, we have the D Coordinator of one of our NFC rivals who has spent "22 hours" getting into the mind of what the Danny and the wonderboy are planning personnel wise... Lovely, like they need another leg up...

As much as i hate to say it...JLA is right...it is a highly devalued position. Some guy earlier said it's not devalued since there have been so many "high quality" coaches interviewing for many hour. High Quality??? Seriously?
Meeks - Decent prospect, but unproven
Spags - 1st year coordinator, unproven
Fassil - Garbage
GG Williams - Garbage HC record, decent fit
Mooch - Be honest guys...Garbage.
The Titans guy - Garbage
Cowher wouldnt even hear of it
Carrol was not, and never did consider it

Where is all the "Quality" you speak of? Obviously there is no real quality in the candidates when Fassil (Fucusall) had the "best" interview. No one in their right mind wants this damn job people. With Snyderatto at the helm...can you blame them?
We must all come to grips with this fact: we are in for many miserable seasons to come with Snyder and especially Cerrato in charge. We were fooled the past few seasons by our love for Gibbs; masking the hideousness of the little leperacaun in the closet ("The Danny Boy").

It's awful to think how I took the golden years of the Skins for granted. When losing in the NFC championship game was a disappointment..... uhhg what a depressing day to be a Skins fan.

I'm still holding out hope for Meeks or Grimm. I will live in my self deception as long as I can.

I was going to see Hillary Speak and missed by 30 people. Me no go to overflow room.

I was talking to people about the redskins and I realized what a laughing stock is. When fans laugh when they are talking about there own team with each other. Like when the Wiz sent all there good players to the pistons that is just funny.

We are a laughing stock.

I wrote a post that predicted this before I was filled with hope. But I am not Barno so...

Could not find any Dan supporters maybe there in the Obama line.

mirf59,

I couldn't agree with you more. But the problem is that Danny doesn't think the market is telling him he stinks. In the words of Joe Gibbs, he actually thinks he's "going about things the right way up here".

It's enfuriating, disturbing, and saddening all at the same time.

Doomed to 8-8 forever...

To be fair to Snyder:

Mike Tomlin was offered the HC job by the Rooneys even though they already had an Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator. The DC ran a 3-4 and Tomlin is a Tamp-2 Dude.

After 1 year: Playoffs and praises from around the league and the fans.

You're saying that you believe Jason when he says that Cowher turned it down because of the front office structure? Since Jason said it it must be fact right? Get real. Cowher has consistently said he's not gonna coach now.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 7, 2008 03:34 PM

And Jasno reported that Cowher didn't want to coach this year. I think your memory is hazy. Or perhaps you've forgotten the timing of it all. First, there was a rumor that Cowher wasn't interested in the Skins because of the lack of personnel control. Then there was a report that he didn't want to coach at all this year. Jasno was all about reporting those rumors to us as they came.

Don't shoot the messenger.

I come here to get dude's "inside" information...which he is good at.

Could do without his personal opinion and speculation.

I'd have to agree that the whole coaching search and decision was destined to be a disaster the minute Cowher stuck to his guns and said, "no thanks, i'm staying out of football for another year". Period.

There were NO other "sure things" or no-brainers out there. I didn't like GggW, or more accurately stated, I was ambivalent about him and the prospect of him being HC. The proven talent pool wasn't out there. Mora -- his team did worse every year he was coaching. Fassel -- no one else wants. Mooch -- fired by the Lions (granted, he did have the deck stacked against him with the second worse GM of all time, Matt Millen -- the worst being Isiah Thomas). Then a bunch of no names, unprovens.

Uggghhhh.

"It was a very thorough process, and in the end it was just agreed that he would stay in New York. The Redskins are a first class organization, but Steve's heart was in New York, with his players and coaches."

This thorough process has got to be an inside joke know.

Thorough process = I just used Dan to get a big pay day from a real football team.

Well we have gone from

Gibbs to Fassel
Saunders to Zorn
Williams to Blache (this is not too bad)

GM Gibbs to GM VinnyDan (Death blow)

Doomed to 8-8 forever...

Posted by: CHICO13

That is very optimistic!

3 to 6 wins a year for 3 to 4 years.

ChrisLarry, this is one instance that I actually have to agree with Barno....JLC is negative 99% of the time about the Skins. And while I know there has not been much to be positive about, he was dissing us when good things were happening.

Not to mention that I was reporting the info on Spags today before HE did. I got it from the "other" paper.

What is Snyder's plane number?

Really Spagnoulo is really a loss? The guy has more DL talent than he can put on the field. It is easy to call plays when you get so much pressure from your front four. My gut tells me that he knew he is not ready and wanted to play it safe in NY.

Fassel has HC experience and took his team to the SB. Will he be good for the Redskins, who knows, but don't act like we just lost Lombardi!

After this circus there isn't a qualified applicant for HC that would touch this job with a ten foot pole. They do know the draft is in about two months, right?

Hey, I don't mind opinion. Bring it on. If there are rumors or whispers going around I want to hear that, too. Why would you read this blog if you didn't want opinion or rumor-mongering?

I do object to taking cheap shots at the Redskins and calling them facts. I like Jason, but this has become a theme in everything he writes. It's old and tired. When Peter King notices it, it's gone on too long.

Stop the nonsense!

OK how long does Fassel last?

I think 2 years.

"It was a very thorough process, and in the end it was just agreed that he would stay in New York. The Redskins are a first class organization, but Steve's heart was in New York, with his players and coaches."

Translation:

"That creepy midget and his lapdog vinny locked went on for hours pretending like they knew anything about football. I couldn't wait to leave. The Redskins organization is F'd as in proper F'd as long as that egomaniac is in charge. I never realized just how lucky I have it up in New York where the Mara family is first class and doesn't like to GM. Good riddance"

It would seem the much to the delight of Jla the ravens have leap frogged us again.

What a joke of an organization. Snyder, the business whiz kid, has made the head coaching position of the most valuable professional football franchise the least desirable job in the NFL. A retarded monkey could run this place better.

We'll be lucky to get 7-9 next year.

"When asked what about Jim Fassel intrigued Danny "The Boy" Snyder, the response was: 'He said yes!'"

what a joke. no real talent would coach for those bozos. I'm all for the boycott. it's the only thing the Boy Blunder understands. MONEY!

I really should proof read.

Maybe Gibbs resigned, because he knew Vinny's promotion was in the works.

Old Ball Coach II time lol
("hey I told you he could play...")

i find it hard to believe it will be Fassel. if so, i'll stand corrected. the funny thing is Jason L keeps putting up new post after post saying that Fassel is the front runner because you guys will post, rant and rave about your disdain for the guy. just like controversy sells papers, it creates major blog discussion. at the end of the day, like it or not, if its him, the die-hards are going to roll with it until snyder says otherwise.

BRING BACK MARTY BALL!!!!!

THAT'S OUR ONLY HOPE NOW!!!!!

So I guess this is the point where we give up hope of getting a decent (Non-Fassel) Head Coach, and face up o reality.

This isn't how I wanted to start my Friday.

WHY HAS THE TEAM NOT BEEN DISBANDED???

I DEMAND THAT THEY BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD BOOKS FOR ETERNITY!!!!!!!!

I come here to get dude's "inside" information ... which he is good at.

Could do without his personal opinion and speculation.

Posted by: makalb18 | February 7, 2008 03:43 PM

The best journalism STARTS as speculation, but the reporter needs to follow up, confirm with X number of independent sources, etc. (depending on the paper). The clarity of "information" (esp. inside) develops over time.

Question for Lisa re: negativity, how would YOU spin what's been happening ... i.e., in a positive or neutral way ... other than as a devaluing of the HC position.

"the ravens have leap frogged us again"

In what way? Were they awarded 5 more wins on the season? What players have they acquired since they failed to make the playoffs? Because they hired the DB coach from the Eagles?

Not trying to start an argument, I just don't understand what this means.

I'm telling you, there's more to why Gibbs quit. he's being nice about it and no one is following up with the investigative reporting. Snyder is clueless about football, Cerrato a total failure as an executive, and they did not allow Gibbs to do what had to be done or else Saunders would have been gone a long time ago and Williams would be OBC (Old Ball Coach).

Come to think of it, they need to rename the position. Clearly, with all of the assistants and so on hired, they don't have a "head coach". What they're looking for is a face. So call it OBC .

MOOOOOOOOCH

Gibbs bailed in the early 1990's when he foresaw the team taking a nosedive. I truly believe that. Left while the getting was good. I hope he isnt'/wasn't feeling the same way.

I don't think we're headed for disaster, even if Fossil is the coach. But we are certainly NOT a move or two away from the SuperBowl!

I hope Dan Snyder is really conducting a thorough search and not looking for some glamorous name. I also hope he realize his money is losing the power it once had. And, in that since, humble him to make it necessary to think instead of spending big buck$.

One thing I can say about this is, NFL coaches are a fraternity. These coaches being interviewed possibly contacted or know somebody that coached under Steve Spurrier, Greg Williams, Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer or Joe Gibbs for that matter to get an edge about Dan Snyder.

If he dog this next coach, word will spread so fast among themselves (Coach in in DC) to stay away as far as possible from this organization.

How is it that the entire world has figured out that this front office structure and I use that term losely) is beyond repair and Synder still resists hiring a GM?

At this rate, the Redskins will never be a first-class organization under the current ownership. The only thing left to do is for the fans to stop forking over money to Snyder, which is about the only thing that's worked for him.

I'm telling you, there's more to why Gibbs quit.

I'm telling you, you're an idiot. What part of his grandson having Leukemia don't you get??

I agree that the front office is in disarray and a complete joke but i find it hard to believe that if Spags was offered the job he would have turned it down. More likely this was a face saving way for him to withdraw (like Mora) and still lever that into cash from the giants. If the giants knew there was no offer, no need to offer him a raise because no $$ will be enough to prevent him from taking a head coaching job next year, etc.

Also,

1) He would have probably been offered 1-2M more a year than the giants offer and as a first year coordinator that difference has got to be a big deal

2) We were 9-7 and salary cap not withstanding its pretty rare to inherit a playoff caliber team

3) Yes he doesn't get to hire all the assistant coaches while that stinks for him, surely wasn't a deal breaker.

4) To the extent family is important, DC is relatively close to NY and Philly so he gets to stay on the east coast

So despite all Snyder's meddling I don't think this would prevent all but the Cowhlers of the world from taking a shot.

It will not be Fassel. Does anyone have the link to the REdskin1 flight log?

Obi Wan Kenobi is our only hope. We are engulfed in the Dark Side...

Sp a C cord...decides to stay in his comfort zone and now everyone thinks i will definitely Fassel? I'm not so sure ..I mean they didnt offer Spags the Job....so what does that mean? I sure hope it is not Mr. Jim...but really guys....it could be worse....It could be Jerry Glanville!!!!!

Anyone ready to argue that we wouldn't be better off TODAY if Marty Ball had remained in place? Including bringing back Gibbs 2.0?

I say that the franchise would have been FAR better off if the Danny had stuck with Marty Schottenheimer instead of dumping him for the "OBC" and the HOF'er!

"the ravens have leap frogged us again"

In what way? Were they awarded 5 more wins on the season? What players have they acquired since they failed to make the playoffs? Because they hired the DB coach from the Eagles?

Not trying to start an argument, I just don't understand what this means.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh

They kept there DC. They have a good GM, I believe. The manage to hire a coach! They have high draft picks. VinnyDan if history and the present is any gauge will not do well this off season.

But they might be as bad as us next year. I think there fans only laugh when talking about there offense. Fassel had a crack at that.

gregskins

well said.....

ATTENTION DAN SNYDER AND CREW: The way this front office has conducted itself is widely considered a disaster and embarassing, not just by your fans but by the NFL community. If you really care about the Redskins, hire a GM!!!!!!!!! let someone else make football decisions and just hang out and watch the team win...what could be easier???

I hate Damn Snyder

I am not being argumentative here, just curious what/where did Peter King say about Janso...

I missed that.

I say that the franchise would have been FAR better off if the Danny had stuck with Marty Schottenheimer instead of dumping him for the "OBC" and the HOF'er!

Posted by: carocanesfan

Marty can not draft for s**t. So if he stayed it might not have worked. But he is a fine coach.

So if he stayed it might not have worked. But he is a fine coach.

Posted by: mul | February 7, 2008 04:08 PM

As long as you ignore his playoff record, that is.

Just went out and walked down Main Street of my town naked so everyone could point and laugh. I figure this will best help me assimilate to the reaction I will get from people when they find out I am a Redskins fan after the Fassel announcement.

Friends,

Don't take your focus off the task at hand! It isn't Jasno, its Fa'Sul, Napoleon Un-Dynamite, and Vinny "Ventriloquist" Cerrato. This franchise puts the 'dys' in dysfunctional. Answer this; why can't Snyder put up the HC candidates at the Ritz? Doesn't anyone find it weird he houses them on his complex. It goes back to control, and no self respecting person would lead this team.

Czaben is defending Joe White from the AP who JLaC is saying he's story is erroneous.....

Czabe says Joe White is pretty thorough (sp?).......

What happens if Fassell comes in and is successful? I mean, what if he comes in and improves the offense, improves JCampbell, what then??

Couldn't we all just take a collective breath, and actually let the coach GET NAMED, and some games GET PLAYED, before we pass judgement, or is that just way to logical and rational??

Very Funny MoFass!! Too bad you look so wrong naked, though

For someone who can't draft for s*#t, he seemed to do quite well in San Diego. I'd rather have their "talent", for the most part than ours....

Not saying we don't have good players or that we haven't made some good decisions, but seriously....

The Danny is a loser. He has taken what was a beautiful franchise, and turned it into a national embarrassment. Danny destroys what he touches, everywhere. Danny needs to sell the team and just.go.away. and take Vinny with him.

Old ideas

Boycott Redskins stores and there money making ventures.
Anti Snyder and Vinny songs.
Put on something Pink to the Games if you go.
Don't buy beer or parking if you go to the games.
Anti Snyder T-shirts.

Then we will see what happens.

For someone who can't draft for s*#t, he seemed to do quite well in San Diego. I'd rather have their "talent", for the most part than ours....

Posted by: carocanesfan

They have a top GM who hired Norv. he he

Marty did not draft in SD.

or is that just way to logical and rational??

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 04:15 PM

Of course! Why should logic and rationality rule?

I think SD is the still the most 'talented' team out there still.

I don't think they are kicking themselves over Eli. But Eli is OK.

Snyder worshipped Gibbs. He kept his hands out of the batter. Now Gibbs is gone. Only one solution. Hire another coach who Snyder idolizes. Anyone have Vince Lombardi on speed dial?

danny boy, please gfy

Judging by how thorough everyone says the process is, sounds like Dan is interviewing his guts out!

What happens if Fassell comes in and is successful? I mean, what if he comes in and improves the offense, improves JCampbell, what then??

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 04:15 PM

Then Jim Zorn will have been a great hire and Joe Gibbs will have looked like a genius evaluator of talent. As far as I'm concerned, Jim Fassel will not be the 2nd coming, unless he creates a dynasty. He'll be another Coughlin in my book, always overshadowed by his assistants. (Nobody truly believes Coughlin would've been successful this year without Spags)

I was actually writing that to be semi-sarcastic, but the more I wrote, the more I actually believed myself. Fassel will never be fully embraced here. He may be successful and may be liked, but if it happens, it will be "because of his supporting cast." Sad, but ultimately true I believe.

This nightmare keeps getting more and more absurd. What makes this beyond hopeless is that Snyder is beyond it all. I've never been a fan of Sally Jenkins but she called it like it is in her column today. Snyder is every idoitic thing about rich morons rolled into one midget package. What a complete tool.

As much as I hate to say it, Seattle has one of the best organizations in the NFL. Obviously, the 'Skins do not, but for Mora to choose his hometown team is hardly surprising.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 02:39 PM

Diddy, none of the decisions to reject Snyder are surprising. That's the sad thing and pretty good backup for Jasno's "devaluation" analysis. Tirico and others are saying exactly the same thing. Being HC of the skins is no longer an ELITE gig.

Not the LEAST of it is Danny, but following right up there behind (no Vinny jokes, here, please) is being in the NFC East. Philly is a tough Out, Dallas is LOADED and the Gints are the freaking SB Champs.

The ONLY thing that can compete against those teams is a powerful independent smart Genius Coach guy, matched with a brilliant personnel/GM type to bring in the proper bodies, and an owner with deep pockets.

skins are one for three.

anyone excired about Lost tonight....I am!

I'm going to go with the rational people here...althought Fassel isn't my first chouce...I do believe he is still a good choice and he and Jim Zorn can work together to improve Campbell. Lets face it...a little more production from the offense in a more consistent manner and we're back up top. Losing so many close games this year hurt us when our offense couldn't score. So everyone just needs to be patient and wait...

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'Cause I'm kind of like Han Solo always strokin' my own Whookie
I'm the root of all that's evil yeah but you can call me Cookie

The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let the mother sucker burn
Burn mother sucker burn

Yo yo this hardcore ghetto gangster image takes a lot of practice
I'm not black like Barry White no I am white like Frank Black is,
So if man is five and the Devil is six than that must make me seven
This honkey's gone to heaven
But if I go to hell well then I hope I burn well
I'll spend my dayys with J.F.K., Marvin Gaye, Martha Raye, and Lawrence Welk
And Kurt Cobain, Kojak, Mark Twain and Jimmy Hendrix' poltergeist
And Webster yeah Emmanuel Lewis cuz he's the anti-christ

The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let the motherpuker burn
Burn mothercluker burn

Everybody here we go
Ohh Ohh
C'mon party people
Ohh Ohh
Throw your hands in the air
Ohh Ohh
C'mon party people
Ohh Ohh
Wave 'em like you don't care
Ohh Ohh
C'mon party people
Ooo Ooo
Everbody say ho
Ohh Ohh
C'mon party people
Ohh Ohh
Everybody here we go

It's soooo obvious people!!!

Danny flying to Phoenix to pick up SHAQ!!

Player/Head Coach

He's just the tall receiver we need!!

Snyder is every idoitic thing about rich morons rolled into one midget package. What a complete tool.

Posted by: kmag1 | February 7, 2008 04:26 PM

That's funny!

Hopefully Snyder will soon figure out that all the money in the world won't change the fact that he's a douchebag

This just in:

Washington Redskins Owner, Danniel Snyder, is interviewing himself. He is sitting indian style on the floor of his raquet ball court and Vinny Cerrato is holding up a full length mirror as Snyder asks questions while wearing an oversized football helmet. He then removes the helmet and answers his own question. Then places the helmet back on, and so forth.

Vinny claps and cheers him on.

Why has Snyder not interviewed Mike Singletary? Not that Mike will talk to him now.

Prediction-

In the presser, Fassel will say that he green-lighted Blache and Zorn.

He will say that he was in touch with the dynamic duo through the entire process.

Perfect cover for the clowns, plus Fassel will have no choice but to lie for them.

No need to insult the guy as a person ... its the actions (and inactions) that make the man. Also, a buddy just sent me this "insider" photo of the head coaching search

Cork -- you hit on a small but good point. The NFC east is tough. McNabb and Reid are proven winners -- and Westbrook is outstanding. The Eagles have had injury issues and suck at WR, but there defense is good. Down the stretch, they were pretty tough. 8-8 against the toughest schedule in the NFL is not shabby.

Dallas and the Jints are obviously both top teams.

Any coach accepting the job would know that the playoffs are expected, because that is where they were last year. Anything less and they are on the firing line. But the Skins could easily be last in the division.

The one saving grace ... they have a pretty weak schedule next season. Outside of the division, its the NFC West and AFC North and I think the other 2 games are Carolina and Det -- only 3 of 10 teams with winning records..

the_squire,

that is hilarious.

Barno - you are the most weakminded 14 year old I've ever seen posting on the internets. If this blog is so offensive to you, why do you spend so much time on it, day after day after day?

Posted by: sheidt99 | February 7, 2008 03:19 PM

I guess Joe in Raleigh, and 4th floor, and Makalb18, and all the other people on here who have criticized Jason's reporting from time to time don't need to be questioned as to why they are here. Nah, just barno.

No need to insult the guy as a person ... its the actions (and inactions) that make the man. Also, a buddy just sent me this "insider" photo of the head coaching search

Posted by: dcsween | February 7, 2008 04:37 PM

And when you look closer, what do you see?

http://indianabeer.com/NewsPics2004/News1222GrolschCrash2.jpg

NOOOOO!!!! DAMN YOU DANNY!!!!

JLC - the only spin is from you.

Williams wasn't offered the job.
Neither was Saunders.
You wrote that Spags wasn't offered.

How does all that support the gig being "devalued" ? The quality of your reporting is what is devalued.

I love the posts calling for Jason to be fired. Do you realize how popular this blog is? And how much advertising revenue Jason's generating?

They'd fire Woodward before they'd fire him.

Way to go Spag! He is a very smart fellow. One would have to be nuts to head coach for little napoleon. Just look at the trail of ruined coaches since snyder took over.

yeah just Barno

I love the posts calling for Jason to be fired. Do you realize how popular this blog is? And how much advertising revenue Jason's generating?

They'd fire Woodward before they'd fire him.

Posted by: info | February 7, 2008 04:46 PM

I love the posts claiming the reason for this blog's popularity is because of Jason. Let's see Jason do a blog on another subject on another website and see how popular it remains. I'm sorry buddy, but this blog is popular for 2 reasons and 2 reasons only:

1) it's a blog about the Redskins
2) it's on the washington post's website

I think everybody is going a bit overboard here....Fassel Is not that bad of a coach....If indeed he is the man...It could be worse...at least he is a hungry coach who would have motivation to get back to the SB inwhich he lost in his one appearence and would love to play the G-men once a year...he knows the division....he has won this division a few times. He went to playoffs consistantly and not last min 6th seed..I mean he is not the worst choice out there by any means...it could be Jerrt Glanville...then it will be time to panic!

I think everybody is going a bit overboard here....Fassel Is not that bad of a coach....If indeed he is the man...It could be worse...at least he is a hungry coach who would have motivation to get back to the SB inwhich he lost in his one appearence and would love to play the G-men once a year...he knows the division....he has won this division a few times. He went to playoffs consistantly and not last min 6th seed..I mean he is not the worst choice out there by any means...it could be Jerry Glanville...then it will be time to panic!

Snyder puts everyone on hold for two weeks just to interview Spags. The ONLY reason Danny can do that is because there is no other opening. Danny has zero competition. So he puts everyone into a holding pattern over one specific guy ... and then doesn't hire him.

Can't you just feel the love that the other candidates must have for Danny? Or the players and current coaches?

I'm guessing GG is probably feeling some relief to be out of this zoo.

It also tells you something about Joe Gibbs as a leader. Look what he held together and how much damage Danny has done in just a few weeks without Gibbs.

This Fassel thinbg is the biggest joke I've ever seen, people are now saying the Redskins are the worst run team in professional sports. All danny boy wants is buddy as his head coach, Fassel is a joke and hasn't gotten a sniff from anybody in four years (Billick even fired him after six games)!

Wait. Fassel is a man?

Steve,

I really wish I hadn't bored you into no longer being pro-barno. I will now try my best to win you back with entertaining, non-anti-Jasno posts in the near future!

Seriously.

I'm sorry buddy, but this blog is popular for 2 reasons and 2 reasons only:

1) it's a blog about the Redskins
2) it's on the washington post's website

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 04:51 PM

3) Barno's great insights to the events of the day and what makes the world turn

Spags is an idiot. He turned down a job that would have made him richer than he will ever now be. He is a flash in the pan and when the New York Giants are 6-10 next year and he fades back into obscurity where he was about 2 weeks ago, he is going to regret his choice.

JLC - the only spin is from you.

Williams wasn't offered the job.
Neither was Saunders.
You wrote that Spags wasn't offered.

How does all that support the gig be