Redskins Insider, by Jason La Canfora Redskins Insider

A New Thread, Just Cuz We Needed It

Got some emails from people compaining, rightfully so, about having a 1300-comment post.

Sorry to neglect the blog for few days but we've had a death in the family and I am going to need some time to be with Lauren and the kids. I'm going to miss mini camp this weekend and won't be back much, really, until after Mothers Day or so. Things will be very quiet again most of May, anyway, until OTAs really kick in during June. (And even then it's not a very news-heavy time).

In the meantime I know my homeboy Jason Reid will be on top of things.

Again, sorry I did not have a chance to get something new up here sooner, and sorry I can't stay longer.

Cheers.

By Jason La Canfora |  April 30, 2008; 4:27 PM ET
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condolences, certainly more important than a blog

Posted by: amcginl00 | April 30, 2008 4:35 PM

condolences, JLa

Posted by: SCSkins | April 30, 2008 4:37 PM

Peace.

Posted by: Stumped | April 30, 2008 4:39 PM

That is definitely more important. Take it easy and see you in a few weeks.

Posted by: mm | April 30, 2008 4:39 PM

...and thanks for the new thread.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 4:40 PM

Thx JLC. may the force be with you

Posted by: ALex35332 | April 30, 2008 4:43 PM

Jason, my condolences to you and your family

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | April 30, 2008 4:44 PM

Jason, my condolences to you and your family. Isnt it baseball season anyway?

Posted by: jpoole34219 | April 30, 2008 4:46 PM

Jason, my best to you and your family. Please, you have no responsibility to us. We're a bunch of idiots. Go and be with your family.

Posted by: Greg | April 30, 2008 4:48 PM

No disrespect intended, but I know Jasno doesn't read down here, so I will pick up from the previous one ...

4th, from that interview with Jason Campbell in the other people (about how he liked the second round picks ... how could he not?). There was one line that apparently got edited out ... I re-insert it at the end in brackets:

"Campbell was joined by several teammates, including Chris Cooley, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Fred Smoot, Carlos Rogers, Kedric Golston, Todd Yoder, Ryan Boschetti, Antwaan Randle El, Derrick Frost, Sam Hollenbach, Vernon Fox, Reed Doughty, Leigh Torrence, Shaun Suisham and Rock Cartwright. Darrell Green was in Campbell's group.

Before teeing off, Campbell gave the thumbs up to the drafting of Devin Thomas, Fred Davis and Malcolm Kelly last weekend. [Shortly after Campbell teed off, Derrick Frost stepped up to the tee and gave the thumbs down to drafting Brooks Durant last weekend.]

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 4:53 PM

Jason, I am sorry to hear about your loss. My best wishes to you and your family. May God comfort you all. Football and this blog can wait.

Posted by: M | April 30, 2008 4:59 PM

Sween, you left out the other part from that article. I'll add it to what you posted, again in brackets.

"Before teeing off, Campbell gave the thumbs up to the drafting of Devin Thomas, Fred Davis and Malcolm Kelly last weekend. Shortly after Campbell teed off, Derrick Frost stepped up to the tee and gave the thumbs down to drafting Brooks Durant last weekend. [Derrick then proceeded to shank his shots repeatedly left and right, hitting the ball with the "shaft" portion of the golf club rather than the "club" portion of the golf club.

Posted by: swb | April 30, 2008 5:00 PM

"... Translation ... nobody on this blog knows jack anything."

Posted by: Leevi | April 30, 2008 4:26 PM

Senator Leevi, I knew jack anything. Jack anything was a friend of mine. You, sir, are no jack anything.

Posted by: Senator Bentsen | April 30, 2008 5:00 PM

Just read about Jason's loss. While, I just recently started posting, I've been reading for awhile. My condolences to him and his family.

Posted by: Nico | April 30, 2008 5:02 PM

My best to you and your family.
THanks for the updates.

Posted by: maymito | April 30, 2008 5:05 PM

... Things will be very quiet again most of May, anyway, until OTAs really kick in during June. (And even then it's not a very news-heavy time). ... - Jasno

Not news-heavy, agreed ... but it is the start of ridicularity, like the Mottram's nugget about Rabach's nuggets, Smoot giving new meaning to the terms jibba and/or jabba, hijinks, maps, such as ...

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:05 PM

JLa, I offer my heartfelt condolences to you and yours.

Keep yer chin up!

(you're all right in my book)

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:10 PM

My apologies to Old School about long winded posts; keep 'em coming.

Can someone please water me? It's getting awfully hot in this window.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:15 PM

I get a free moment from a blistering day of work (admittedly, that sounds odd) and, by the time I get to come back, the blog is in mourning. Well, it is nice to see anyway. I know his mother-in-law has been sick for a long time ... still, it creates some perspective.

Anyway, in the previous thread, there was some chatter about people "concerned" about Zorn and Blache (pronounced 'blosh'), aka "Blanche", esp. the significance of the post-Grilliams defense.

I'm not so worried about the D. Blache is himself a former defensive coordinator ... for the Bears ... when they were on the rise on D ... and he was the deputy Grilliams anyway. On the link that someone provided to the "process v. results" take on the Skins draft, the point was that not building the D through the draft has not hurt the Skins' D to date. The link made a point about how the last time the Skins used a top pick on the D line, it was Kennard Lang. My takeaway was the Coach Blache will make do with what he has available to him on the line.

Same thing with Joe Bugel ... under Gibbs, he was ostensibly the "O-line Coach" (on paper, he was Assistant Head Coach - Offense), but he himself is a former head coach. Frankly, its those two guys underneath Zorn that makes me less concerned about performance.

I do have a sense that the buzzwords "continuity" is going to be out the window by the time of the cut down to 55 guys. Like P Diddy said when The Owner was throwing around the term, I suspect a fairly significant roster turnover ... maybe not the starters, but at least in depth. Among the starters, the days are already numbered for this past season's starting punter.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:19 PM

Also, not sure if he said it up here or in earlier blog nights out, but Jasno has opined that the Bears had become sort of a model for how Grilliams (and other D coordinators around the league) were building their defenses.

[I'm guessing that has since stopped ... after they acquired Archuleta. Remember how it was the Bears who coveted Archuleta before the Skins signed him?]

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:21 PM

The subjects are Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn, two talented quarterbacks under the age of 25. The problem is only one can sit in the cockpit of one of the NFL's most exciting offenses, which includes Pro Bowlers Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow and a stellar offensive line.

-espn.com

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I like the part about the "stellar offensive line."

When will the Redskins be able to make that claim again?

Just sayin'!

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:22 PM

Chia Pet, I had a chia head once. I remember having to soak the seeds, and it made some kind of messy goo for spreading. Once it grew, the chia hair looked like it might be good on a salad. I never tried that though. [Though I have to admit to giving into temptation on both Play Doh and Silly Putty.]

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:24 PM

Nico - It dosen't matter how long you have been here. We are all family of the human race (but before that we are family of the jibba-jabba that occasionally includes news about redskins posted by JLaC)....

Posted by: 4th | April 30, 2008 5:27 PM

I'm bored with only 10 posts or so.....We had some pretty good stuff going on the previous. Someone come up w/ something clever to discuss. I'm all out of clever today.

Posted by: CLEGG | April 30, 2008 5:27 PM

Our sympathies JLa. Blog is no biggie really, hope all turns out well.

Posted by: JC Austin, TX | April 30, 2008 5:27 PM

Chia, the Browns line is like the Skins line, only younger. The new guy from Wisconsin is their Chris Samuels. Eric Steinbach (former Cincy franchise tag) is their Thomas. Hank Fraley is their Rabach (as if anyone other than Rabach could be Rabach), with LeCharles Bentley (former Saints Pro-Bowl center) waiting in the wings if he is ever able to walk again (knee surgeons called a staph meeting, which was well attended). Kevin Schaeffer (formerly Falcons' Jansen) is their Jansen. Only the other guard (Ryan Tucker) is entering his 12th year ... after not missing a game in that time period.

A solid offensive line can make a bad QB look good and an average QB look great.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:30 PM

I was wondering...there is a very solid olineman available in free agency It would be a great addition...(and potential starter @ RT) Shane Olivea from the san diego chargers. He got cut this off season because he didnt play up to his previous levels (maybe he didnt fit into Norv Turners offense). Anywho he had started a bunch of games for them since he got drafted and he is still relatively young. I think he would be a great addition.

Posted by: Terpin It | April 30, 2008 5:31 PM

Sween

Sounds like you took good care of your Chia.

This isn't about instant gratification. If that were the case, your Chia would have come with sprouts straight out of the box.

What really gets my goat is when people complain about the lack of greenery on their Chia, yet don't take proper care of him/her.

Do you have any idea of the number of disowned, discarded Chia's out there today?

Process is where it's at, in this and many other respects.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:33 PM

Browns depth on the O-line is solid also, including former Skin, Lennie Friedman ... I guess he would be their Todd Wade ...

p.s. I don't know the duration of Wade's contract, but he doesn't seem to be in the long term picture.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:34 PM

Letting Derrick Dockery go to the Bills was a mistake. You don't draft and groom core guys like that only to let them go to another team to reap the benefits.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:39 PM

Chia, I agree its a problem ... and it can be tracked down to the people at Joseph Enterprises (the makers of Chia products ... see www.chia.com ). They allow for chia registration, but they NEVER FOLLOW UP. If not for the good people at the Chia Rescue League, packs of feral chia animals would overrun this country.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:40 PM

Is Nate in the PDX really considered family?

I hope so.

RIP NitPDX!

Posted by: SWEET! | April 30, 2008 5:41 PM

I was under the impression that Joe Bugel had problems with Dockery. The narrative was that he rode Dockery like a rookie and took it easy on his vets. Maybe there was more too it ... other than the fact that they refused to make him a lotto winner when he hit free agency after the new CBA.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:42 PM

Jason - peace and love to you and your family during this time. It sounds like your mother-in-law had a long battle so I hope she is sitting in the owner's box in the big out there.

We the faithful coked up hamsters will easily find ways to fill the space and time witness previous thread.

We'd keep this sucker going out of sheer stubborness.

So be well and my thoughts are with you and yours.

Posted by: sfskin | April 30, 2008 5:43 PM

Is that where they are going to send me, to that Chia Rescue place?

F that!

I like it here, just wish someone would water me more often, but not too often. Right now, I'm thinking moving me to the east side of the house would be a good call.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:44 PM

Um here's a question although it's not Skins per se.

Were the Bears dumber than stupid to once again not draft a QB? Is there something about Sexy Rexy we don't know?

Posted by: sfskin | April 30, 2008 5:44 PM

I had a Chia Head who I believe committed Chia suicide as I found him shattered in pieces on the floor one afternoon. It may have been related to the fact that the cat kept giving him really bad hair cuts.

Posted by: sfskin | April 30, 2008 5:47 PM

Yep, I remember hearing the same things about Dockery and Buges.

Collective Bargaining Agreement?

Sounds like some mafia stuff, RICO statute may apply here.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:48 PM

p.s. I don't know the duration of Wade's contract, but he doesn't seem to be in the long term picture.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:34 PM

This is his last year. He signed a 2 year contract after the 1st initial year he played here........

Posted by: 4th | April 30, 2008 5:48 PM

Letting Derrick Dockery go to the Bills was a mistake. You don't draft and groom core guys like that only to let them go to another team to reap the benefits.


Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:39 PM

With the salary cap, if you draft well you have no choice but to let some of your successes go elsewhere. The Patriots have this problem every year -- they can't afford all the talent on their team.

We had to choose between Champ Bailey and LaVar Arrington, and we made the wrong choice. In the case of Dockery, there was no way we could squeeze his salary under the cap, and we got a good fix with Kendall.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:49 PM

I had a girlfriend who refused to trim her Chia, which became tangled, unruly and unsightly. Probably ruined what could have been a nice relationship. Just a word of warning.

Posted by: creativefunk | April 30, 2008 5:50 PM

Yeah, that Rex Brossman deal in Chicago is a mystery.

I wish someone would give me that many second chances.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:50 PM

From Clayton -

After years of trying to build their team through free agency and trade, the Redskins seem to have switched their philosophy. Under executive vice president Vinny Cerato, Washington held onto its draft choices this spring and even traded out of the first round to add more picks. Although owner Daniel Snyder will still try to go big-game hunting and try to land a Chad Johnson in a trade, the organization seems to like the idea of rededicating itself through the draft. The Redskins have six of their seven picks for next season, losing a fourth-round pick for guard Pete Kendall because he played more than 80 percent of the snaps. They could even get three compensatory picks to bring their 2009 total to nine.

Redskins Rx: Kareem Moore, a cornerback from Nicholls State, is expected to get arthroscopic surgery this week. He was a sixth-round choice of the Redskins. Moore will join fellow Redskins sixth-rounder Colt Brennan on the sidelines this weekend. The Hawaii quarterback is coming back from hip surgery.

Posted by: kost52 | April 30, 2008 5:50 PM

Blaming us for your failed relationship with that girl who let her Chia get out of hand is BS.

What else did she not trim on the regular?

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:52 PM

Just picked up USAtoday spots weekly. They graded Redskins B-, Eagles B-, Giants B and Dallas A. So some mix of views out there from the so called experts. On Redskins they basically said what Jasno did.

Posted by: zornskins | April 30, 2008 5:52 PM

I had a girlfriend who refused to trim her Chia, which became tangled, unruly and unsightly. Probably ruined what could have been a nice relationship. Just a word of warning.

Posted by: creativefunk | April 30, 2008 5:50 PM

One man's meat is another man's poison. Your ex makes me very happy!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 5:52 PM

sfskin, I'm thinking the Bears are thinking that some free agent QBs will become available ... Tampa Bay can't keep seven QBs forever, can they? ... or maybe that Grossman is not really ready to mentor a rookie. Maybe he needs a better QB coach, I dunno. I'm thinking Pennington becomes available ... maybe Charlie Batch (who any team should drool over ... could be the next Kitna or The Todd ... a lifetime #2 just waiting for a shot) ... maybe Rosenfels ... or who knows, maybe Leftwich. Once Matt Ryan is ready, Leftwich makes the most cap space to cut. There are lots of guys out there who could be good, even though they weren't available in free agency prior to the draft, they might become expendable after evaluating the QBs picked in the draft.

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 5:53 PM

Chia,

As much as i like "Dock", the bills overpaid for him and for once, the Skins showed some restraint. He got like $48 mill ( can't remember exact #'s ) and like over half guaranteed.

Posted by: CLEGG | April 30, 2008 5:54 PM

One man's folly is another man's fortune.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:57 PM

Let's also remember that when Dock left, we got a third round Compensatory pick, which we then used on a future replacement, who comes at a much cheaper price.

Posted by: kost52 | April 30, 2008 5:57 PM

Agreed ... it was a good (i.e., sane, rational, whatever) move to let Dockery go ... but it was PURE LUCK that Kendall was available after they did not draft a guard in reliance on Todd Wade. In hindsight, after they let go of Dockery, they should have picked a guard after picking Landry. The next pick was in the 5th round a year ago, right? or was it the 4th? I remember that they picked Sartz before they picked Blades ... two LBs, but no Plan B to replace the starting guard apart from Wade, who had NEVER played guard. That said, the only truly stupid pick in that draft was Jordan Palmer. Sartz did eventually find work elsewhere (Minnesota?).

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 6:00 PM

Sorry for your loss Jason. My condolences.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | April 30, 2008 6:01 PM

kost, I never understood why the Skins got a third round pick for Dockery and the Bills didn't get a third round pick for Fletcher. At a minimum, those two SHOULD have been a wash (starting-wise and salary-wise).

Posted by: dcsween | April 30, 2008 6:02 PM

Kost- I love the preview of 2009 draft 4 days after 2008 one...but whar departed players would make Redskins eligible for compensatory picks next year?

Posted by: zornskins | April 30, 2008 6:03 PM

Big question is whether we can trade ARE to someone like the Titans for a good player or moderately high (#2 or #3) 2009 draft pick. Titans desperately need WRs.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 6:04 PM

New to the blog. Condolences to Jason and the family.

Posted by: OzzieClay | April 30, 2008 6:06 PM

One man's folly is another man's fortune.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:57 PM

Good point -- she's rich, too!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 6:06 PM

Big question is whether we can trade ARE to someone like the Titans for a good player or moderately high (#2 or #3) 2009 draft pick. Titans desperately need WRs.

Posted by: | April 30, 2008 6:04 PM

No. 'Skins can't afford the cap hit. ARE has not put up good numbers and is not that highly regarded around the league. And, in a trade the other team would have to pick up his salary and the 'Skins are overpaying him. He's ours and he's not leaving.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 6:10 PM

I wouldn't be jumping the gun on the "trade ARE" front just yet.

The man can catch and then run after the catch; certainly had some big games for us in 2007.

2008 could be an even more productive year for ARE.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 6:12 PM

Sween, it takes into account the wage of the player more than it does the playing time, which I find strange too.

Zornskins, just guessing but, Prioleau and Caldwell (was Brunell cut or out of contract?) and then if guys like Godfrey, McCardell or Stoutmire sign elsewhere. They might only end up being 7th Rounders but they're still picks I guess.

Posted by: kost52 | April 30, 2008 6:14 PM

I believe BRUNELL's contract was not renewed. I think he signed a 1yr contract last year for the '07 season.

Posted by: CLEGG | April 30, 2008 6:25 PM

If that's the case then he's probably a Comp. pick as well.

Posted by: kost52 | April 30, 2008 6:29 PM

I was thinking that with our draft it made it potentially more likely ocho cinco would go to the Cowpaddies.

Jerrah J. likes the big name splash as much as the Danny but he tends to be better at getting big names who can still play.

I feel like TO is one turf toe away from being a has been.

Posted by: sfskin | April 30, 2008 6:35 PM

sfskin, I agree, they were a team who went into the draft with a need at WR, and didn't draft one, so maybe they are looking to trade for one.

Posted by: kost52 | April 30, 2008 6:38 PM

In the case of Dockery, there was no way we could squeeze his salary under the cap, and we got a good fix with Kendall.

Posted by: | April 30, 2008 5:49 PM

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splain somethin;

How is getting a guy with two arthritic needs and a disgruntled attitude a "good fix?"

Is this why Mangini gave Kendall Pet the stiff arm, no pun intended?

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In 2007 Kendall Pet became embroiled in a contract dispute with the Jets' front office. Kendall Pet believed the team had reneged on a verbal agreement to raise his base salary for 2007 after he had agreed to restructure his contract the year before. Kendall Pet made his grievances public despite head coach Eric Mangini's instructions not to do so. As a result, Mangini sent Kendall Pet to the rookie dorms and demoted him to second string, further aggravating the situation. On August 23, 2007 Kendall Pet was traded to the Washington Redskins for a conditional draft pick (either a fifth round pick in 2008 or a fourth round pick in 2009, based on playing time).

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 6:52 PM

Yeah, that Rex Brossman deal in Chicago is a mystery.

I wish someone would give me that many second chances.

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 5:50 PM


Rex Brossman?

You must be talking about Rex Grossman, who plays quarterback for the Chicago Bears, in the National Football League, the American variety.

I do wonder what our friend Rex Brossman does for a living...and what his salary is...

Some guys have all the luck!

Posted by: Rod Stewart | April 30, 2008 7:05 PM

My condolences to you and your family.

Posted by: mjwies 11, Washington, D.C. | April 30, 2008 7:06 PM

Thanks, mjwies.

My family appreciates it.

I think...

Posted by: Rod Stewart | April 30, 2008 7:10 PM

Say my name?

Hello?

Listen:

I may not command a big salary, but I like my life just fine, thank you.

Posted by: Rex Brossman | April 30, 2008 7:13 PM

yeah right???

why is jason apologizing?

my condolences to you and yours JLC.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 7:20 PM

God...are we still talking about Derrick Dockery? No way we pay 18 million for a Guard. The Skins made the right move. Kendall may not be all pro but he was solid.

Next topic...CHIA

Posted by: sicwidit | April 30, 2008 7:25 PM

Some guys have all the luck
Some guys have all the pain
Some guys get all the breaks
Some guys do nothing but complain

SICWIDIT!

Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 7:27 PM

Sure...Rex Brossman has a career, but I'm sitting at home waiting for a team to call. Life is so unfair!

Posted by: Lekelvis Melvin | April 30, 2008 7:29 PM

I am saddened to hear about your loss. This must be a difficult time for your family. Wishing you strength to deal with these difficult times.


Posted by: Alobar | April 30, 2008 7:31 PM

Rex is cool name, but "sicwidit" is a cool name too.

sicwidit....

I like the way that sounds. Just curious though, what exactly are you sick of? Are you sick of talking about Derrick Dockery?

What does Lekelvis Melvin think?


Posted by: Chia Pet | April 30, 2008 7:33 PM

CHIA...

I'm just saying, if we're gonna second guess the FO, make it over a decision in the last 3 months. The Bills didn't make the playoffs...we did.

Posted by: sicwidit | April 30, 2008 7:37 PM

I think Derrick Dockery is nowhere near as fast as me. But then, who is?

Posted by: Lekelvis Melvin | April 30, 2008 7:41 PM

why are you guys arguing about LAST season?

its 08'...

get acquainted with it.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 7:44 PM

I see you pulling that cats tail

Posted by: solo | April 30, 2008 8:05 PM

i see a d-bag

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 8:08 PM

slc ... the current FO, aka the Spaghetti Gang, is not the FO that led the team to 9-7 and the playoffs.

It may look similar in some respects, but its clearly different.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | April 30, 2008 8:09 PM

ass jockey above

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 8:10 PM

ass jockey @ 8:10

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 8:16 PM

As for Dockery, I think its about how to keep guys in important positions. At one point Dock could have been signed at a reasonable price -- less than Archuleta $$. When that passed, the $$$ went crazy. And the Skins were smart to let walk at that price.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | April 30, 2008 8:18 PM

Dockery...

Archuleta...

lets discuss something better...

like...

Steve Spurrier
Joe Theismann
Ricky Sanders
George Allen
Bobby Mitchell

or how we let BRIAN mitchell go...

lets keep it interesting.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 8:29 PM

Been out training all day and not caught up on this blog, but wanted to say without delay:

Jason, my family and I send our condolences to you, your wife and family. Our prayers and thoughts are with you!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 30, 2008 8:39 PM

Ah, the month of May approaches! Spring time, when young boys and girls turn to thoughts of love.

And at Ashburn, thoughts turn to Paintball.

Posted by: Stumped | April 30, 2008 8:41 PM

in may my thoughts turn to women.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2008 8:51 PM

Been out training all day.
Posted by: Curzon417 | April 30, 2008 8:39 PM
What are you training for? DL?

Posted by: fred | April 30, 2008 8:56 PM

sween says: I never understood why the Skins got a third round pick for Dockery and the Bills didn't get a third round pick for Fletcher. At a minimum, those two SHOULD have been a wash (starting-wise and salary-wise).

They were a wash from the Bills' point of view. What we had was a little something I call "The Duckett Factor". So we "lost" two "third round comp. picks" and only gained one back... and so, Chad Reinhardt becomes the final payoff on the Duckett deal.
You could even argue that Duckett was therefore traded for "only" two 4th round picks... which doesn't really make the deal better...

Posted by: cload & daggar | April 30, 2008 9:02 PM


Fred stole my question Curzon.

Can we make something up if we don't hear from you? Lion taming? Bungee Jumping? Training to be a Maytag Repairman? Etc.?

Been out training all day.
Posted by: Curzon417 | April 30, 2008 8:39 PM
What are you training for? DL?

Posted by: fred | April 30, 2008 8:56 PM

Posted by: zornskins | April 30, 2008 9:23 PM

Better get an answer in before someone makes something up.

Fred, some think Chris Wilson is an undersized DE. I would make an undersized LFB. I would love to say that I was training for CB, but alas, as being in the HR field it was nothing as glamorous. I was training staff on our new payroll system.

Maybe, I could send this system to the NFL to use for rookies...

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 30, 2008 9:39 PM

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 30, 2008 9:50 PM

Imagine this from a girls writer:

http://mvn.com/nfl-cowboys/2008/04/30/2008-draft-studs-and-duds/

(excerpt)

Washington Redskins
For a team that hasn't seemed to give two rats' behinds about the draft in recent seasons, it wasn't a shock to see the Redskins trade out of the first round. However,
Washington turned three second rounder's and three sixth rounder's into quite an offensive haul.

Already a playoff team, and having averaged just more than 20 points per game last season, Washington went bonkers, grabbing the fourth- and sixth-best receivers on the board in Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas. Both guys are big enough to push corners around at the line of scrimmage and will be perfect compliments to speedster Santana Moss. Fred Davis will learn a great deal from Pro Bowler Chris Cooley; at any given time, the Redskins will have at least three, and as many as five, dangerous weapons on the field...and that's without counting star running back Clinton Portis.

Justin Tryon was a solid pick in round four, and field position won't be a problem after getting the best punter in the draft. Colt Brennan was a very intriguing pick; if he can adjust to the culture change from
Hawaii to D.C., he has the skills to become a solid NFL quarterback (judging him just from that Sugar Bowl is a mistake). At the very least, he provides a stronger backup option than Todd Collins, and he will be a capable replacement if starter Jason Campbell can't stay healthy or take the next step in his development.

Bolstered by that second-round boon,
Washington carried that momentum into a solid second day. A playoff offense should be able to average an extra 4-7 points per game this year. In any other division, the Redskins project as an 11-win team; in the NFC East, 9-10 wins, but still another playoff berth, is reasonable.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 30, 2008 9:53 PM

Sure...Rex Brossman has a career, but I'm sitting at home waiting for a team to call. Life is so unfair!

Posted by: Lekelvis Melvin | April 30, 2008 7:29 PM

YOU think life's unfair?

Posted by: Danny Weurffel | April 30, 2008 9:58 PM

How about Reid takes over full time?

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | April 30, 2008 10:03 PM

When I am president I will make sure every team will have a DT in the first three rounds of the draft.

Posted by: Hillary | April 30, 2008 10:06 PM

JLaC,

My condolence to you and your family.

Posted by: Nojunk4me | April 30, 2008 10:10 PM

If I see one more comment about how well Pete Kendall played last year my head is gonna explode. Given his experience, he was by far the worst offensive lineman we had.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | April 30, 2008 10:13 PM

Prodigal--

Haven't heard that critique much in the last year (on Kendall) Care to elaborate? Seemed OK to me but i am a layman (as opposed to most on this blog)


Posted by: zornskins | April 30, 2008 10:21 PM

Heyer was a rookie so I'll give him a bye. Did you see how many times Kendall got run over?

Posted by: Prodigal Son | April 30, 2008 10:29 PM

I'm not trying to pass myself off as an expert. I'm not. But I don't think my eyes were deceiving me. Kendall is old and very close to being done. I would say it's not surprising that the Skins drafted for a Guard. It's an urgent need given Kendall's age and injuries.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | April 30, 2008 10:32 PM

Diddy -- you give up this little corner of blogosphere paradise for The Fix????

It makes Hamster Nation appear both enlightened and civil...

Posted by: cload & daggar | April 30, 2008 10:52 PM

Long time reader...but I don't post much.

Just wanted to let you know that I said a prayer for you and your family tonight. Hang in there and take the time that you need.

Our heartwrenching trainwreck of a team will still be here in all its glory in a few weeks.

Posted by: JPowell | April 30, 2008 11:04 PM

JLa, sorry to hear the news. . .

whoever is posting as Sen. Bentsen - LMGO!!!!!

this blog is always good for at least one good laugh . . .

peace

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | April 30, 2008 11:09 PM

TRAINWRECK OF A TEAM??? WE went 9-7 in the toughest division in the league? We made the playoffs. We were decimated by injuries, and lost our best player to an untimely death! I'd say we are in a pretty good position to challenge for 10 wins this year. I certainly don't think 9 wins gets us in next year.

Posted by: JPowell | April 30, 2008 11:18 PM

JPowell,
Sorry man, I meant to address it to you, not sign in as you.........

TRAINWRECK OF A TEAM??? WE went 9-7 in the toughest division in the league? We made the playoffs. We were decimated by injuries, and lost our best player to an untimely death! I'd say we are in a pretty good position to challenge for 10 wins this year. I certainly don't think 9 wins gets us in next year.

Posted by: CLEGG | April 30, 2008 11:19 PM

Sorry for your loss, JLa.

Posted by: Suz | April 30, 2008 11:25 PM

Todd McShay of Espn rated the Skins 1st in the East for their draft...According to this discussion...

Breaks it down on his opinion by player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3372862&categoryId=2459789

Posted by: Leevi | April 30, 2008 11:47 PM

gots to say, i for one, feel totally terrible about the blog hurtin' Vinny's feelings.
i'm thinkin' most of you guys are feelin' about the way i am, so let's all chip in and have a big bouquet of flowers sent to Vinny with a card to say how sorry we all are, and that it won't ever happen again.
are ya with me hamsters?

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 1, 2008 12:26 AM

looking forward to stickin some hotties

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:33 AM

RW,
LMGO.
I'm with you all the way.

Prodigal:
Dude, you got Kendall confused with Wade. Wade was a human turnstile. Kendall was solid.

Posted by: Stumped | May 1, 2008 12:38 AM

Willie, I wonder whether the National Italian American Foundation guy, in his righteous indignation, noticed that the beat reporter, the fellow who organized the contest which produced such ugly insults to the Italian race, himself has an Italian surname.

Also, I can't help thinking of that wonderful, wonderful episode of the Sopranos when some of the gang got into a spat with some Native Americans who were protesting Columbus Day... hilarious stuff.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:43 AM

I agree, Stumped -- I thought Kendall was solid as a rock last season, and we were all grateful he turned up right before the season, while all the trouble was on the right side. But I haven't exactly broken down game film to prove that point. I just remember Kendall being good, Wade being not as good, Fabini being awful, and Heyer being impressive though very very raw. (Along with Samuels and Rabach, thank goodness for them.)

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:47 AM

Also, Portlanders, our man Stumptown Chris has arrived in Boston and set up shop there. Heard from him today. Sounds like a very nice transition. Not clear whether he's going to become "Beantown Chris," but I can guarantee he won't become a Pats fan :)

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:49 AM

someone dogging Kendell????? thats kooy-dumb...dude balled game 1-17

Posted by: chris larrY | May 1, 2008 12:55 AM

cL, I think Stumped has it right, Prodigal Son must have been thinking of Wade. Must have.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:03 AM

I'm in Boston next week for a day or two, outside Boston really. Whereabouts did SC land?

Posted by: Stumped | May 1, 2008 1:03 AM

I don't know what kooy-dumb is, but I agree with CL!

Posted by: kost52 | May 1, 2008 1:05 AM

Stumped, Chris is somewhere near Quincy, I think. I'm sure he'd love to catch up with you when you're out there, if that could work out.

kost, "kooy-dumb" is the latest hot meme to emanate from Brooklyn... cL is a trendsettin' mofo...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:36 AM

"COMMENTARY
Dad Karl Malone a footnote in Demetrius Bell's life
Allen Wilson
Updated: 04/29/08 3:54 PM


If you're a fan of NBA great Karl Malone, you might change your mind when you start reading this column.

If you never heard of Buffalo Bills rookie offensive tackle Demetrius Bell, you'll be rooting for him when I tell you his story.

Bell was a seventh-round draft pick and two-year starter at Northwestern State, the same Louisiana school that produced cornerback Terrence McGee.

Bell is the son of Malone, but the Mailman had no role in Bell's success except passing along athletic genes.

The two have had very little contact during Bell's life. His mother, Gloria Bell, reportedly was only 13 years old and Malone a college sophomore at Louisiana Tech when Demetrius was born. Malone might have served jail time had her family asked the district attorney to file criminal charges.

Bell didn't even know Malone was his father until after graduating from high school. When they finally met, Malone told the 18-year-old Bell it was too late to be his father, and that Bell would have to "earn his money on his own."

In a 1998 story in the Salt Lake (Utah) Tribune, Gloria Bell said, "Demetrius is ashamed that his dad doesn't claim him. But I've told him it is not his fault."

Malone also fathered twins while in high school. One of them is WNBA star Cheryl Ford. It took years to claim the twins, and now he and his wife, Kay, fully accept them as part of their family.

But what about Demetrius? Doesn't he deserve the same measure of love and recognition?
"

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/story/334471.html

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 1, 2008 2:28 AM

Ah...okay....I get it.

Nice Cl

Posted by: kost52 | May 1, 2008 2:37 AM

Did anyone else scream when the BILLS took DEMETRIUS BELL in the 7th round instead of the SKINS???

He was a perfect project for bugel to replace Samuels....Damn those Bills!!

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | May 1, 2008 3:14 AM

I'm verry sorry for your loss Jason. We're thinking of you.

Posted by: LaVar Walt Clark | May 1, 2008 3:43 AM

JLC,

Condolences.

As far as football goes, nothing to report unless you consider 10 Americans playing touch-fubball here Saturday. Should be 100 degrees with about 75% humidity.

Sometimes stupid is just too fun to pass on.

Posted by: bangkokben | May 1, 2008 5:10 AM

Respect for Jason, even at bad times he is posting somting.
Maby Jason Red can can some inside scoops.

Posted by: Wilco | May 1, 2008 5:28 AM

Any idea how Jasons wife looks, I bet she is blond :P

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 5:29 AM

Nice anon, real classy.

Posted by: Redcoat | May 1, 2008 7:16 AM

Can we go back to the old thread? 1300 posts can't be wrong!

Posted by: cload & daggar | May 1, 2008 8:19 AM

Here's a topic, fellas: predict how many wins each of the new head coaches will have this season.


Mike Smith, Falcons
John Harbaugh, Ravens
Tony Sparano, Dolphins
Jim Zorn, Redskins


-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 8:29 AM

Falcons - 3 wins
Ravens - 7 wins
Dolphins - 5 wins
Resksins - 4 wins (sigh)

Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2008 8:45 AM

Todd McShay of Espn rated the Skins 1st in the East for their draft...According to this discussion...

Breaks it down on his opinion by player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3372862&categoryId=2459789

Posted by: Leevi | May 1, 2008 9:00 AM

Wade was injured during training camp last year when they were trying to make a guard out of him and I think he never recovered. There's a chance he comes back healthy this year and contributes. The Skins have three guys on the right side who have had a hard time staying healthy.

One thing I noticed reading about some of the linemen the Skins signed after the draft, at least one player was said to have a strong lower body, but needed to develop his upper body. Made me wonder if that's part of Buge's thinking, that the upper body is easier to develop if the player has the frame for it. Anyhow, some of those UDFA OLmen are looking pretty promising.

Posted by: skinfanman | May 1, 2008 9:06 AM

Falcons - 2 wins (a really ugly season...)
Ravens - 4 wins (spanked by Pitt, Cleveland)
Dolphins - 6 wins (good start, bad finish)
Redskins - 7 wins (so-so start, good finish)

Posted by: Redcoat | May 1, 2008 9:16 AM

I'm not trying to pass myself off as an expert. I'm not. But I don't think my eyes were deceiving me. Kendall is old and very close to being done. I would say it's not surprising that the Skins drafted for a Guard. It's an urgent need given Kendall's age and injuries.
Posted by: Prodigal Son | April 30, 2008 10:32 PM

PS:
Agree and disagree. Kendall is better than you say, but the line would be better with a young stud in his position. Kendall though is a keeper; and, his career could be extended a couple of years as a back-up. I guess we're all hoping that Rinehart is good enough to start in Kendall's spot.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 9:23 AM

Skins, I'm anxious about some of the OL that the Redskins signed as well. The cat from Appalachian St. especially.

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 9:24 AM

per nfl.com

Washington averaged 22 points a game against NFC East opponents last year, but the Redskins need to generate more offense than that. The team committed to three offensive receiving weapons with its first three picks, adding wide receivers Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly as well as tight end Fred Davis. There's a good chance the development of quarterback Jason Campbell and the new additions will add up to increased scoring -- but did the Redskins do enough to get pressure on division quarterbacks? Last year, the Redskins sacked Eli Manning four times and only gave up two touchdown passes against the Giants. Washington sacked Donovan McNabb five times and allowed four touchdown passes to the Eagles. The Redskins got to Tony Romo twice, while giving up four touchdown passes. So in six games against division opponents, Washington generated 11 sacks and gave up 10 touchdown passes. Washington's decision to skip the pass rusher and generate more offense looks like the right way to go.

Posted by: jonthefisherman | May 1, 2008 9:26 AM

Jason,

my condolences to your family. Family should always come first so no need to apologize for work not getting down. It and we will be here for you when you get back.

Posted by: Gary | May 1, 2008 9:37 AM

JLa did not post our FA signings. I think some of the guys below could contribute. A couple had conference and National honors... I am sure one of the hamsters has posted this earlier, but just in case:
Shannon Boatman OL Florida State
Kerry Brown OL Appalachian State
Devin Clark OL New Mexico
Kyle DeVan OL Oregon State
Alonzo Dotson DE Oklahoma
Horace Gant WR St. Olaf College
Curtis Gatewood LB Vanderbilt
Bret Meyer QB Iowa State
Kevin Mitchell S Illinois
Matteral Richardson CB Arkansas
Justin Scott S Purdue
Dorian Smith DE Oregon State
Bryan Wilson LB Morgan State

Posted by: Club 320 | May 1, 2008 9:38 AM

I think atleast one of the OL guys will stick... my money is on Boatman, but Brown has a shot. Other than that, Kevin Mitchell and Bryan Wilson MIGHT have a shot but i doubt it. We really need linebackers.

I dont think any of the DL players make it. i'm pretty sure we'll pick up some DL and LB depth with post june 1 cuts.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 1, 2008 9:49 AM

TSH,

I also think that our LB help will come from PJ1 cuts. But I am going to say that Rinehart will be starting by the 5th game of the season.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 9:54 AM

Club 320, found a mildly interesting Redskin alumni note whilst looking up info on Matterral Richardson*: the Razorbacks' D line coach is Tracy Rocker.

http://www.hogwired.com/pdf3/40496.pdf?ATCLID=530225&SPID=2419&DB_OEM_ID=6100&SPSID=30726

...and looking up Tracy Rocker, I discovered that his successor as the Outland Trophy (best interior lineman) winner was Mo Elewonibi, another dude we drafted who wasn't so swell in the NFL.

-Nate in the PDX


* Richardson is already my pick for most frequently misspelled name among the new guys. His first name is spelled two different ways on that Razorbacks Quick Facts page. Wow.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:03 AM

The dude from St. Olaf, Gant, his brother was an excellent TE.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:14 AM

curz, I'm thinking that a couple of the OL guys stick. Fabini, Wade, aren't exactly spring-chickens any more. I'm hopeful that we can get some depth, and some youth from these cats.

I read either here, or elsewhere that Reinhart is mean, and a brawler in the trenches. I like hearing that. We need more guys like that.

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 10:17 AM

* Richardson is already my pick for most frequently misspelled name among the new guys. His first name is spelled two different ways on that Razorbacks Quick Facts page. Wow.

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 10:03 AM

I think it'll be Horace Gant, being constantly referred to as Harvey.

Posted by: SMACK | May 1, 2008 10:18 AM

Horace and Harvey Gant from St. Olaf. I remember Rose from the Golden Girls telling hilarious stories about them.

Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2008 10:21 AM

I just remember Kendall being good, Wade being not as good, Fabini being awful, and Heyer being impressive though very very raw. (Along with Samuels and Rabach, thank goodness for them.)

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 12:47 AM

I feel like Fabini got his timing/chemistry down with Heyer by the late midseason ... and did OK. Agree to disagree.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 10:23 AM

Question is whether the guy playing "Blade Steel" is THE Dwight Clark ...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316111/

... that guy who plays Antonelli might just have found himself the previously sought after nickname, specifically, Kindergarten Ninja.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 10:28 AM

Sheesh, not only does Dwight Clark make the catch in the memorable play called "The Catch" AND get to be in a movie with Vinny Cerrato ... he also got himself involved in THIS action:

"He and Miss USA of 1980, Shawn Weatherly, were college sweethearts at Clemson University. He accompanied her to Seoul, South Korea for the Miss Universe contest, where she proceeded to win the Miss Universe title."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Clark

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 10:30 AM

Justin Scott S Purdue

His uncle is a pretty good office manager for a small paper company in Scranton, PA. The skills necessary to lead an office should transfer well to the skills necessary to lead a defense. The only question then will be did his uncle take the time to teach him those skills?

We'll find out

Posted by: swb | May 1, 2008 10:33 AM

PRAY-lou gets signed by the Jags.

Here's to his pro bowl year...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:39 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if Bryan Wilson was a hit for you guys?

Posted by: SMACK | May 1, 2008 10:42 AM

Justin Scott S Purdue

His uncle is a pretty good office manager for a small paper company in Scranton, PA. The skills necessary to lead an office should transfer well to the skills necessary to lead a defense. The only question then will be did his uncle take the time to teach him those skills?

We'll find out

Posted by: swb | May 1, 2008 10:33 AM

THATS WHAT SHE SAID!

Posted by: Club 320 | May 1, 2008 10:43 AM

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 10:43 AM

Since the Raider released Dominic Rhodes, what are the chances that we sign him?

You can never have too many Ladell type players.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:45 AM

SMACK, hilarious.

Don't forget Harry Gant, who dropped off Horace and Harvey every morning in the Skoal Bandit car.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 10:47 AM

PRAY-lou gets signed by the Jags.

Here's to his pro bowl year...

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 10:39 AM

That makes sense because he made the Pro Bowl every year he was with the Skins. Oh no thats wright Williams hardly ever put him on the field.

Posted by: kmdp4 | May 1, 2008 10:53 AM

in the past, it seems that when it came to deciding who made the final roster, this team always favored veterans over rookies/young guys for backup positions.

I think this year will be different. I think alot of oldtimers arent going to make the cut and younger, less talented, less experienced guys are going to stick. I would not be surprised to see 6 of our drafted players make the 53man roster, with atleast 2 others on the practice squad.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 1, 2008 10:53 AM

anyone ever noticce how once a player leaves the skins, he goes on to excel with their next team?


James Thrash (See stint with Eagles)
Rich Gannon (MVP with Raiders)

I'm sure there are other, but I can only think of these two.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 11:00 AM

I read either here, or elsewhere that Reinhart is mean, and a brawler in the trenches. I like hearing that. We need more guys like that.

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 10:17 AM

Greg,

I have read the same thing here and else where about Reinhart. Nasty and likes to hit people. And inteligent.

Also, like one or two more of the OL UFAs to make the team, or practice squad. Especially with Buges coaching them up. Skins need to make sure we keep JB around until he can't walk anymore. And even then...

On a separate note, no one took me up on the bet for your bonus points, so go get them redeemed before it's too late. :)

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 11:03 AM

TSH,

That was my biggest beef with Gibbs and GG. For the most part, FB is a young man's game and smart teams make the right decisions and cut veteran players when they have good young players.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 11:09 AM

... I think alot of oldtimers arent going to make the cut and younger, less talented, less experienced guys are going to stick. I would not be surprised to see 6 of our drafted players make the 53man roster, with atleast 2 others on the practice squad.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 1, 2008 10:53 AM

I thought I remember a quote recently from The Owner about how, esp. with bigger vet contracts that have been renegotiated to make cap space, there is something of a financial necessity to make sure that the player plays out the contract. Otherwise, your hunch makes sense to me, if only to reduce roster costs.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 11:11 AM

SWEET on the bonus points. Now...to find out where to redeem them?? Better yet, find out how many I actually have...would be a start.

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 11:13 AM

I am going to be a homer and get behind my boy from New Mexico, Devin Clark OL to at the very least make the practice squad. He is projected to be a guard in the pros, but played tackle so could be used in two positions.

http://golobos.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/clark_devin00.html

Two-year starter at tackle who quickly developed into one of the team's top players on the offensive line in 2006 and established himself as one of the elite blockers in the Mountain West Conference in 2007...was a strong, physical and aggressive player up front in his 25 Division I games...earned a reputation as one of the MWC's top pass blockers and was named first team all-MWC as a senior...made a remarkably quick impact after joining the team just weeks before the 2006 season began...enrolled at UNM in the summer of `06, but was not cleared academically until mid-August...worked hard to get himself in position to contribute in `06, staying late after every practice to work on his technique and putting in extra time in the film room...had to maximize his time in preseason camp once again after missing most of 2007 spring practice with an ankle injury...suffered a severe sprain one week into the spring and later underwent surgery to stabilize the joint...involved nationally in Olympic-style weightlifting competitions, he placed fourth in the super heavyweight division at the National Junior Weightlifting Championships in March of `06...not surprisingly he won the team's Beefmaster award in `07 for players 275 pounds or heavier...led all offensive linemen in every weight lifting category...had a top bench of 405 pounds, an offensive line record 374 in the power clean and 600 in the squat.
(SENIOR): First team all-MWC selection who was outstanding in all 13 games, helping to return the Lobo offensive line group, known as "The Hitmen," to its traditional place as one of the premier units in the MWC...was slowed a bit early in the season with pain in his surgically repaired ankle, but never missed a snap due to injury...2nd on the team with 99 knockdowns...allowed just 3 sacks in nearly 450 passing attempts despite frequent one-on-one pass protection duties at right tackle...1 sack allowed in the final 7 regular season games...overall performance grade was over 80% in 9 games, including 3 against Utah, BYU and Wyoming's top-25 ranked defenses...was correct on at least 95% of his assignments in 9 games during the fall...also had perfect technique on at least 70% of his snaps 4 games...5 games with double-digit knockdown totals...the effort by The Hitmen up front powered one of the MWC's most balanced offenses and helped UNM rank 3rd in sacks allowed among the league's 8 teams with 300+ passing attempts.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 11:17 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if Bryan Wilson was a hit for you guys?

Posted by: SMACK | May 1, 2008 10:42 AM

He'll need to get is A$$ out of bed first.

Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2008 11:29 AM

Curz, see, thats what I'm talking about. Guy sounds like a player. How big is this cat?

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 11:34 AM

on another note, does anyone else get the feeling that zorn/cerrato/sndyer are hanging blache out to dry?

he couldn't have been happy with how the draft went and it almost seems that he is being set up to fail. i'm wondering if zorn has some buddy he wants to bring in to be DC next year or something.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 1, 2008 11:36 AM

Falcons - 2 wins (1st pick next year)
Ravens - 5 wins (still no QB this year)
Dolphins - 4 wins (too many new pieces)
Redskins - 10 wins (much easier playbook to learn this year)

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 11:37 AM

Greg,

6'4" 312lbs

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 11:38 AM

Curz, thanks.

tsh, you're reading into this way too much. There is no grassy knoll, and the second gunman is just a myth. There is no Lee Harvey Oswald in this instance.

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 11:42 AM

Talkshow,

I do not see that, we have the same Defense we had last year minus Taylor. Granted that is a big piece missing but we should be fine at safety. I do not think taking a second round DE would have made the Defense any better this year. This defense is still a top ten defense, and if we can score some points that should be good enough.

Posted by: kmdp4 | May 1, 2008 11:43 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if Bryan Wilson was a hit for you guys?

Posted by: SMACK | May 1, 2008 10:42 AM

He'll need to get is A$$ out of bed first.

Posted by: etrod | May 1, 2008 11:29 AM

But it would bring some good vibrations to FedEx Field, if he did.

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 1, 2008 11:45 AM

one name that jumps of the UDFA list, for me at least, is Kyle DeVan of Oregon State. The Beavers always have a strong running game and DeVan anchored their line as a damn fine center, a position of real need on the Skins.
Found this tidbit which i thought the hamsters could fondle with their tiny little hamster arms:

As for undrafted free agents who became impact players, the list is lengthy. To name but a few:

QBs Tony Romo, Kurt Warner and Jeff Garcia; RBs Ryan Grant, Priest Holmes, James Allen, Mack Strong and Stacey Mack; WRs Ruvell Martin, Wes Walker, Terrence Wilkins, and David Patten; offensive linemen Jeff Saturday, Ryan Lilja, Stephen Neal, James Williams, Derrick Deese and Mark Dixon; DL Paul Spicer, Cullen Jenkins, Ed Johnson and Greg White, LBs Antonio Pierce, Ryan Nece and James Harrison; DBs Terry Cousin and Nick Jarper; Ks Adam Vinatieri and Olindo Mare; and punter Tom Rouen.

Go further back and you'll find Deron Cherry, Sam Mills, Wayne Chrebet and Joe Jacoby as more undrafted free agents who flourished in The League.

The same article said last year's 12 playoff teams had a total of 167 undrafted free agents on their collective rosters. That sounds way too high, but no doubt someone here can verify one way or the other.

HTTR

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 1, 2008 11:45 AM

15min check

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:00 PM

anyone ever noticce how once a player leaves the skins, he goes on to excel with their next team?


James Thrash (See stint with Eagles)
Rich Gannon (MVP with Raiders)

I'm sure there are other, but I can only think of these two.

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 11:00 AM
Trent Green, but there are many others that don't. Frefotte, Howard, that blond QB that went to the Raiders (got his autograph but can't remember his name), Archuletta. What you are suggesting is an anomale that can be attributed to any team at some point. How about Welker for instance? You're just trying to fling poo.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 1, 2008 12:03 PM

"Antonelli."

Funny :)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:04 PM

Trent Green, but there are many others that don't. Frefotte, Howard, that blond QB that went to the Raiders (got his autograph but can't remember his name), Archuletta. What you are suggesting is an anomale that can be attributed to any team at some point. How about Welker for instance? You're just trying to fling poo.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 1, 2008 12:03 PM


Trung Canidate
Kenard Lang
Rod Gardner
Arrington with the Giants
Duckett with anybody
Fred Smoot with the Vikings
Antonio Pierce with his dog

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:13 PM

jlc,

my condolences. Dont even worry or think about the blog. Family is what matters

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:18 PM

Jay Shroeder, that's who I meant. Thanks for the backup anon.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 1, 2008 12:30 PM

Longtime reader, new poster... Did anyone notice how Vinny's eyes bugged out a little when he was introduced on total access last night as the VP of player personnel? After the interview they got his title correct but i think the damage had been done and he seemed a little disturbed. Or maybe that was normal Vinny, I'm not sure, we don't get to see him too often on Atlanta tv.

Posted by: Will | May 1, 2008 12:33 PM

Um is it just me or is it pretty obvious that we have to call Cerrato "the Kindergarten Ninja" from now on?

Shorter options include
"the Ninja"
"the K-Ninja"
"K-Nin"
"Ninjerrato"

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 12:40 PM

Um is it just me or is it pretty obvious that we have to call Cerrato "the Kindergarten Ninja" from now on?

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 12:40 PM

Yes, it's you.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:46 PM

Vinny's eyes seemed bugged out relative to his normal resting state, or bugged out relative to the eyes of most homo sapiens?

Put another way, was he closer to Reche Caldwell, or Marty Feldman?

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:46 PM

++++I agree, Stumped -- I thought Kendall was solid as a rock last season, and we were all grateful he turned up right before the season, while all the trouble was on the right side...

-Nate in the PDX
Posted by: | May 1, 2008 12:47 AM+++

RARE PRAISE FOR THE FO

Here's what the Kendal deal did:


By letting Dockery go, the skins got a 3rd round COMP pick, which they turned into a new, young guard, Chad Rinehart.

It also saved them a ton of money...$$$ they can spend on their new WR corps.

Kendall bought them a season or two while Rinehart comes up to speed.

Dock is a good guard, but he's no Hutchinson or Faneca, guys who might be worth the enormous cash FA guards are demanding.

I'm not a HUGH fan of the FO, but this was the right move and paid off beautifully for the Redskins, unless Rinehart is a BUST.

Posted by: corkczar | May 1, 2008 12:46 PM

my condolences to you & yours

Posted by: DCJonesy | May 1, 2008 12:47 PM

Sorry for your loss J La...

Posted by: MeatShalom | May 1, 2008 12:50 PM

Why is there so much hate on Vinnie's eyes? What's that got to do with anything? Are all of us up here so gorgeous, and so vapid, that we feel compelled to point out that Vinnie's eyes are not like ours?

Word has it that Redcoat's eyes are a mite beady, sween's are crossed, and Nate only has one, right in the middle of his forehead. So when you attack Vinnie, you make these regulars feel bad about themselves.

Posted by: Betty Grable Eyes | May 1, 2008 12:52 PM

WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) -- Marine scientists studying the carcass of a rare colossal squid said Wednesday they had measured its eye at about 11 inches across -- bigger than a dinner plate -- making it the largest animal eye on Earth.

Nate, Vinny is between Marty Feldman and this critter.

Posted by: SMACK | May 1, 2008 12:54 PM

Justin Scott S Purdue

His uncle is a pretty good office manager for a small paper company

Oh, yah, I remember him. He was timed at 4.83 in the 40 copies, but he was really quicker than that!

Posted by: fred | May 1, 2008 12:56 PM

Does anybody on here work?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 12:58 PM

+++Nate, Vinny is between Marty Feldman and this critter.

Posted by: SMACK | May 1, 2008 12:54 PM+++

SPEAKING OF CRITTERS

If Vinnie married that Runaway Bride lady and they had an offspring, it would be an ET--one of them Grays, you know, the ones that give the invasive physicals of abductees.

Hell, what am I explaining that for? Half this board is Not of This Earth, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: corkczar & M. Feldman | May 1, 2008 1:00 PM

I am going to be a homer and get behind my boy from New Mexico, Devin Clark OL to at the very least make the practice squad

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 1, 2008 11:17 AM

Curz, your boy has two things going for him that coaches like. He did what he had to do to be ready to play, and he obviously has strength. I agree with you, this is a guy that Buges can use on the practice squad and get him ready for next year.

Posted by: fred | May 1, 2008 1:05 PM

"Redskins Carnival Mystery for $400, Alex."

"And the answer is: Vinny has big eyes and Rabach has big {blank}."

"Could you repeat the question?"

"Vinny has big eyes and Rabach has big {blank}."

"Balls!, the answer is "balls."

"Oh, I'm sorry, We would have accepted Vinny, Rabach or even LaRon Landry during his rookie preseason; but you forgot to answer in the form of a question..."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:05 PM

Sure are a lot of geeks up here

Posted by: JBL | May 1, 2008 1:10 PM

Making fun of his appearance is less offensive than making fun of his heritage, right? Or do I have my righteous indignation chart upside down?

Vinny's eyes and Gregg's man-boobs have been fair game up here for a long time. Is that wrong? Yes, yes it is. Is it funny sometimes? Yes, yes it is.

-Nate "the Cyclops" in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:14 PM

I enjoy the super smart conversations and witty bantering of RI bloggers.

Posted by: not JBL | May 1, 2008 1:18 PM

ACK -- Jay Schroeder excelled after leaving DC? We covered this previously. He was mediocre with the Raiders despite amazing talent (including 2 HOF WRs and a HOF RB!!), while the Skins got Jim Lachey, an outstanding tackle (several Pro Bowls), in return. Lachey might have been the best OL in Skins history.

That was among the best trades in Skins history.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 1, 2008 1:25 PM

-Nate "the Cyclops" in the PDX

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 1:14 PM

So, the word on the street about Nate's condition was true. Let's go easy on him up here, though, because he was probably born this way and he might be a bit sensitive about it.

So, Nate, only one eye! Must be pretty hard to drive or catch a baseball without binocular vision. Oh well, in the valley of the blind the one eyed man is king. And, with only one, at least it's not crossed like sween's.

Posted by: Betty Grable Eyes | May 1, 2008 1:28 PM

" ... Word has it that Redcoat's eyes are a mite beady, sween's are crossed, and Nate only has one, right in the middle of his forehead. So when you attack Vinnie, you make these regulars feel bad about themselves. ..."

Posted by: Betty Grable Eyes | May 1, 2008 12:52 PM

As if I didn't feel bad about myself already given the amount of time I spend up here as opposed to that other thing ... begins with a 'w'. Also, myself I never made fun of Vinny's peepers, only his movie roles. Speaking of movie roles, and back to the clip above, my first film was "Cool Hand Luke." I played the Man with No Eyes.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:28 PM

I played the Man with No Eyes.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:28 PM

... which is to say, where I come from, Nate is king.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:30 PM

Grable, this is what I tell myself when I'm feeling down about my condition: it's not the quantity of the eyes, it's the quality.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:33 PM

Man of La Mancha!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:36 PM

The Man with Two Brains!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:37 PM

Actually, my mother does come from Macedonia ... which is where Samuil is from ... we installed Nate as king after he returned (at the front of the line) from the Disaster at Kleidion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuil#Disaster_at_Kleidion

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:37 PM

Manfred Mann!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:38 PM

Um is it just me or is it pretty obvious that we have to call Cerrato "the Kindergarten Ninja" from now on?

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 12:40 PM

Yes, it's you.

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 12:46 PM

I'm with you, sfskin ... although my preferrred nomenclature would be K-Ninjeratto. Ethnicity = foul. Acting career = fair game.

Also, K-Ninjeratto is not necessarily mockery. If the team does well, it would work just as a well as a term of endearment.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:40 PM

Man vs. Wild!

Posted by: Bear Grylls | May 1, 2008 1:40 PM

Mano-a-mano

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:40 PM

Man O'War!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:42 PM

Squids, Cool Hand Luke, Man of LaMancha and Macedonia.

I'm confused.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 1, 2008 1:43 PM

Charles Mann?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:46 PM

Man to Man?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:47 PM

There's precious little to go on here.

Dexter(ity) Manly

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:52 PM

maneater

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:53 PM

I thought it was Bette Davis eyes? At least that is the name of the AWESOME Kim Carnes song from the '80s.

Yeah you know you're singing it. . .

Her hair is Harlowe gold
Her lips a sweet surprise
Her hands are never cold
She got Bette Davis eyes

Seriously the 80s produced songs with just super lyrics!

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 1:53 PM

"Every man for himself"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:54 PM

I'm confused.

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 1, 2008 1:43 PM

Its an eye narrative, but it splits into three separate jibbajabular arcs.

The Macedonia arc starts at 12:52, then 1:14, 1:28, 1:28 again, 1:30, and ends at 1:37.

Nate's one-eyed arc starts at the same time, but has different entries ending at 1:33.

The Man arc shoots off from the end of 1:28 at 1:36.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:54 PM

Obviously, the Man arc continues ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 1:55 PM

Grable, this is what I tell myself when I'm feeling down about my condition: it's not the quantity of the eyes, it's the quality.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 1:33 PM

And when Vinnie's feeling bad he says "Size matters!"

Posted by: Betty Grable Eyes | May 1, 2008 1:56 PM

Although after a google search Betty Grable's peepers are lovely.

Manheim Steamroller

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 1:56 PM

Ah Jenny.. we're just so proud of her and her eyes here in her hometown. There was even a play about her here last month."The Runaway Story of the Runaway Bride: Re-live the chaos" through April 20, at the Red Clay Theater 3116 Main Street, Duluth. You can't make this kind of fun up!
I'm sorry... next post will be more Redskins related.

Posted by: Will | May 1, 2008 1:56 PM

Betty Ford eyes

Posted by: Visine | May 1, 2008 1:57 PM

Cameron Manheim

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 1:57 PM

Grable, this is what I tell myself when I'm feeling down about my condition: it's not the quantity of the eyes, it's the quality.

Nate, you are very perceptive for only having one eye. I guess that's why you're king.

Posted by: fred | May 1, 2008 2:01 PM

Oh that is a good one sfskin

Posted by: jm220 | May 1, 2008 2:01 PM

"Eye"sle of Man!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 2:01 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Sween. If you can parse this blog, you get my vote for Prez. Unlike Greg who just gets bonus points ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 1, 2008 2:03 PM

Miami (5 wins - I feel like they have to make some headway from '07)

Baltimore (5 wins)

Atlanta (3 wins)

Washington (9 wins) although secretly when I'm drunk on Kool Aid it's 10.

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 2:06 PM

Handsome Dick MANitoba

Posted by: chris larrY | May 1, 2008 2:08 PM

Man oh man, this blog needs to get back "untracked"

Posted by: Bill Maas | May 1, 2008 2:11 PM

If you've got questions about Vinny's eyes or Rabach, or Macedonia please forward them to the official Redskins Public Relations office (official office, I love it).

Remember there's a new PR guy at Redskins Park and he set up a website to handle these and other important questions.

Here's the link:
http://www.askskippy.blogspot.com/

You'll thank me later (no really).

Posted by: Stumped | May 1, 2008 2:13 PM

Here is the best picture of ManOWar - not the horse you're thinking of or maybe it is.

http://www.abella.de/cover/P5015773023526_1.jpg

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 2:27 PM

only the Shadow knows...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 2:30 PM

I think I remember reading something after we picked up Adam Archedeluxe that Jay Schroeder was his personal trainer in the offseason, and that arch stayed away from the park becuase his trainer and training routine were so awesome......can't quite remember how it worked out for them though. I guess you would be able to say that ol Jay was successful if he got some of Arch's bonus money......

Posted by: dlhaze | May 1, 2008 2:30 PM

looking at the last couple of comments or so, I see why there isn't a post for over 15 minutes.

Posted by: Pointing at the selected few | May 1, 2008 2:49 PM

looking at the last couple of comments or so, I see why there isn't a post for over 15 minutes.

Posted by: Pointing at the selected few | May 1, 2008 2:49 PM

I'm seeing your finger pointing at me. . . you know it's rude to point.

I'm currently pulling from a dry well on Skins stuff that hasn't been rehashed 10,000 times.

So a little sillly season seems okay for a while.

We usually sprinkle in football well enough.

So for example I've been fretting about our 5 preseason games thanks to whoever brought it up yesterday. The preseason has been our worst enemy the last two years in terms of key injuries.

I think the second game should be played by UDFA's and waterboys after the first quarter.

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 2:52 PM

Boy OTAs seem so far away...

Posted by: Stumped | May 1, 2008 2:53 PM

According to PFT, the bengals have cut two linebackers who played pretty well last year- Roy Manning and Anthony Schlegel. Anyone think we should take a look at either of them? Both guys are several years on the RIGHT side of 30 and could provide some depth.

Posted by: talkshowhost | May 1, 2008 3:02 PM

I could be wrong, but did I just get some MORE bonus points??? Is there somewhere I can sign-in to view the aforementioned points?

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 3:04 PM

Hey,
SF let's make pre-season a RI hamster pick-up game. Cover may travel and a few ham sandwiches and I'm there.

We can probably count on Tdawg, cL, Nate, dcsween, jm...who else?

We many need an expanded roster because I know I'll go out in the first series.

Posted by: Stumped | May 1, 2008 3:07 PM

tsh, give me something more than that? What kind of stats did they put up? How big are these guys?

Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2008 3:07 PM

I am late to this party, as usual, but I do believe that Betty Grable was more famous for her legs and her WWII pinup than she was for her eyes.

http://curlygrrl.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/betty-grable.jpg

sf, good to see you posting again.

Posted by: Mark in 21132 | May 1, 2008 3:09 PM

Manimal

Posted by: Redcoat | May 1, 2008 3:10 PM

Mant

Posted by: Redcoat | May 1, 2008 3:11 PM

Stumped - sounds good where should we meet?

Also what game are we playing?

Ham sammies woo!

Posted by: sfskin | May 1, 2008 3:13 PM

Man in the Moon

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:14 PM

Roy Manning
(ding)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:15 PM

Peyton Manning

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:18 PM

Mandible

Posted by: Redcoat | May 1, 2008 3:24 PM

The comment count: 188,617

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:27 PM

Manhole

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:28 PM

I can't believe that no one has said it yet:

Charles Mann

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 1, 2008 3:28 PM

Manatee

Posted by: Redcoat | May 1, 2008 3:30 PM

Charles Mann?

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 1:46 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:30 PM

Manboobs

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:30 PM

Manface

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:31 PM

Ricky Manning Jr.

Daniel Manning

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:32 PM

Man U

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:33 PM

I can't believe that no one has said it yet:

Charles Mann

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 1, 2008 3:28 PM

Dude, There's a reason you can't believe it:

Charles Mann?

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 1:46 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:34 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Sween. If you can parse this blog, you get my vote for Prez ...

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 1, 2008 2:03 PM

If I learned anything from this current administration, its that its better to be Vice President than President. Being the Vice President would be eeeeeeeexcellent. [I believe that the current Vice President and C. Montgomery Burns may have been separated at birth.]

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 3:34 PM

The comment count: 188,617

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 3:27 PM

MVDame and/or Cindy, identify yourself!

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 3:35 PM

Mancrush

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:36 PM

mantool

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:37 PM

Thomas Mann

Michael Mann

I never know if I am playing the game correctly. Is this like Calvin Ball - make up the rules as you go along?

Posted by: Mark in 21132 | May 1, 2008 3:37 PM

they can't identify themselves, they're in a screen.

in cyber space.

Posted by: poltergeist on the net | May 1, 2008 3:40 PM

I never know if I am playing the game correctly. Is this like Calvin Ball - make up the rules as you go along?

Posted by: Mark in 21132 | May 1, 2008 3:37 PM

This is not Nam; there ARE rules:

http://www.simplych.com/cb_rules.htm

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:40 PM

Man up, and identify yourselves, anons.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 1, 2008 3:41 PM

they can't identify themselves, they're in a screen. in cyber space.

Posted by: poltergeist on the net | May 1, 2008 3:40 PM

This reminds me of a cyberfraud perpetuated up here yesterday ...
__________________

omigod, 4-12 has a real name?

Posted by: cload & daggar | April 30, 2008 3:23 PM

cload- Don't tell sween. He still thinks I'm some kind of computer generated intelligence (no disrespect meant to the word 'intelligence').

- .250

Posted by: | April 30, 2008 3:38 PM
_________________

It has a name ... and its name is HAL ... or Max Headroom ... or Stephen Hawking's computer ... but whatever it is, it is most definitely an AI.

Posted by: dcsween | May 1, 2008 3:45 PM

manbe mananons manren't mananons

manbody is really mananons manhen manore manon manhe manternet

Posted by: mani manam manbody | May 1, 2008 3:45 PM

Dan the Man Levitan

Posted by: Oc Skins | May 1, 2008 3:47 PM

Sween, you got my vote for VP then. Good work if you can get it. Any job where you can shoot a lawyer in the face and have him apologize to you ... what a great job.

Greg, I don't think you were awarded anymore bonus points today. But seriously, try not to let them expire unused, OK?

Posted by: AL, Zeke, etc | May 1, 2008 3:48 PM

It has a name ... and its name is HAL ... or Max Headroom ... or Stephen Hawking's comp