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psp, please prove that this actually happened? Did it happen because you read it on the internet?

I have land...lots of land for sale...

Posted by: Greg | April 22, 2008 12:18 PM

greg, what more do you want? do you need a press conference from snyder admitting the offer? three sites already have this up. more will surely follow. is it that hard to believe that snyder/cerrato have actually made such an offer, despite all their talking of "changing ways"?

(from the last blog, before the beep beep)

i dont want CJ, but let me just play devil's advocate for a minute.

Snyder offered a 1st this year and a conditional pick next year which would probably be a 3rd but could escelate to a 1st.

First of all, the conditions on which that 3rd became a 1st would likely involve CJ having the best year of his career AND the Redskins winning the Superbowl... Not gonna happen. But hey, if it did happen, would we really feel quite so bad about not having that 1st round pick? No. Regardless, that conditional third round pick would likely remain a 3rd round pick.

Secondly, remember that a 3rd round next year holds the value of a 4th round this year. So essentially, we're offering the value of a 1st and a 4th to the Bengals. Is that unreasonable for a perennial prow-bowler in his prime?

Third, our first rounder is near the bottom of the 1st round... and as things stand now, theres not a player who is likely to be available there that is really a good value for a position of need. We want out of that pick badly. If we don't get out of that pick, we're stuck gambling on a WR in rounds one or two... in a draft without any WRs who look to be stars. So, we're faced with a choice: Gamble a 1st rounder on a guy like sweed or give a 1st and a 3rd next year for a guy who you have every reason to expect will go to the pro-bowl every year for the next 3-4 years.

As to those that hate the "expense" of a veteran receiver like CJ as opposed to a rookie, remember that a rookie WR we select in the 1st round would sign a 5 year contract. A rookie WR in the 2nd round would sign a 4 year contract. Receivers generally take 3 years to develop, so depending on where we selected a receiver, we will only have the guy performing at his true ability for 2-3 years... afterwhich we are faced with signing him to the same type of contract we give CJ or losing him to free agency.

In the end, its a choice:

Get a guy who can help your team for 2-3 years, but who likely won't do anything for your team NOW

OR

give up the value of a 4th rounder for a guy who is almost certain to have 1000+yard seasons this year, and the next 4-5 years.

Again, I'm just playing devils advocate here, but its not necessarily as horrible a deal as we make it out to be.

BONG!

Greg, where there is smoke there is fire here, might not happen...but if you don't think these stories/offers/conversations aren't true....I got a bag of oregeno to sell you that will send you into orbit!

Caps in 7, baby!!!!!!!

psp, again, its being reported on the internet, so that must mean its true right?

I mean, with Jim Fassell as our coach....wait, you mean to tell me that Jim Fassell isn't our coach?

I read that Jim Fassell was going to be the Redskins coach, ON THIS VERY BLOG.

Give me something a little more substantial than it being reported by PFT, and ESPN.

from your finger to Odin's ears Olie!!!!

CL, you believe everything you read on the internet then? You're a much brighter cat than that...

I never thought of Mike Brown as a gambler but if the reports are true it sounds like he cold be playing Snyder pretty well. He can act as the stubborn owner, refusing the thought of a trade, all the while Snyder gets more and more desperate and hearing rumors of interest of Philly and Dallas (real or not) in CJ also, starts raising his offer. By the time pick #21 comes around who knows what the price will be. Two firsts? More? A player? With as many holes as the skins have the idea of trading multiple picks for CJ is just lunacy.

How about my kid Connor from Linebacker U?

Beep came after I started on the last post...

The fact of the matter is, nobody knows what they're getting in the draft no matter where they pick (Ryan Leaf). It's a crap shoot and you hope for the best. But the more picks you have, the better your chances of finding good, quality players, even if they're just special teamers or role players.

9 picks is a lot, but we have a lot of holes to address. CJ is a nice WR, but not worth the price of a #1 and a #3 (or another #1). If it was a 4th rounder then I'd say "Sure, go ahead... oh wait, you already traded that away for Duckett. How'd that work out?"

The saddest thing is that Snyder seems to need to feed his ego with a huge splash that gets a ton of attention and most of the time the reaction is that he made a boneheaded move. Which then fuels the next round of trade talk so he can try and make up for it. Time to try something new.

One thing about Sweed, I like. An expert on NFL-TV said he is by far the hardest worker of he bunch. To me, that means he'd learn to block, if he can't already. And just one key downfield block a game turn a 10 yard run into a to-the-house special.

Posted by: corkczar | April 22, 2008 11:46 AM

CC, I think that Hardy is the only sure thing WR in this draft. His off field issues are the only thing holding me from pushing this "cat" anymore. He is a hard worker and seems to have matured... I agree with you to some extent on Kelly, but not for a 1st rd. pick.

Skins need to stay away from WR in rd. 1.

If this JLA/PFT/ESPN thing is true (which I believe) even offering this trade and the $21MM new contract is embarrassing. Puts me in mind of the Lance Briggs trade that didn't happen last offseason. In both cases, the other team did us a favor by saying no! Saving the Skins' front office from itself. Good grief.

NO on CJ. NO on Malcomtent.

YES on making nine really good to great picks. YES on Caps winning tonight.

-Nate in the PDX

Found this little tidbit on the internet. So, who is telling the truf??

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=466411

Bengals | Lewis denies team rejected Redskins offer
Geoff Hobson, of Bengals.com, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis denied an ESPN report that the team turned down the Washington Redskins offer of a first-round pick this year and potentially next year for WR Chad Johnson. Lewis said that team president Mike Brown has not received a phone call with a trade proposal for Johnson.

2008-04-22 09:04:30

Greg,

If it's just one rumor from one site, then yes, I'd be skeptical. But when Mort reports it from ESPN, without naming WaPo as his source, then this blog reports it, then pft reports it, I give it credence. Add on to that the history of Mort, and I give it more credence. How many times has Mort been wrong on a report? Maybe 5% of the time? There is nothing about what I've read that makes me think this report is fabricated.

Maybe it's just me, but I consider ESPN to be a credible sports news outlet.

The fact of the matter is, nobody knows what they're getting in the draft no matter where they pick (Ryan Leaf). It's a crap shoot and you hope for the best. But the more picks you have, the better your chances of finding good, quality players, even if they're just special teamers or role players.

Posted by: [cc] | April 22, 2008 12:40 PM

Are you sure about this? I'd always heard that every guy in the draft was a sure thing and that you only need one draft pick to make your team complete. Why should we believe you?

I still don't understand why we don't try to go for Lito Sheppard! He's younger and he's at more of a position that we need than Chad Johnson.

Posted by: SMC_Redskin | April 22, 2008 12:10 PM

* He's been consistently injured the past 2 years

* He hasn't played that well against the Redskins

* WTF would we trade with a NFC East Rival?!?!?

[cc] & Nate, well said!

If we're going to trade away picks it shouldn't be for CJ and all the money him and his agent want!!!! Enough of this BS!!! We need all the picks we have... let's make some damn good ones...

However, why aren't we trying to trade a 1st rounder for Jared Allen... He is a cornerstone franchise DE... and only 26yrs old! That seems like a no-brainer to me.

However, why aren't we trying to trade a 1st rounder for Jared Allen... He is a cornerstone franchise DE... and only 26yrs old! That seems like a no-brainer to me.

Posted by: EinVB | April 22, 2008 12:52 PM

Because he would cost even more than what CJ would cost. We cannot afford him, draft pick wise.

Curzon,

So, then what is the asking price for Jared Allen? I haven't heard what they asking, but only that the Vikes are close to a deal extension with Allen which probably means they might have already agreed in principal on what they give the chiefs...

Maybe it's just me, but I consider ESPN to be a credible sports news outlet.

Posted by: psps23 | April 22, 2008 12:49 PM

Psps23,

ESPN has missed on many reports. Like many other sites, they want to break the news. I think JLC (and I am usually anti-JLC) was right to wait for more confirmation if he heard this 5 days ago.

As my post above says, the Bengals are saying that they were never made an offer. Could be true or not, but until something happens, I refuse to beat up the FO on it.

However, why aren't we trying to trade a 1st rounder for Jared Allen... He is a cornerstone franchise DE... and only 26yrs old! That seems like a no-brainer to me.

Posted by: EinVB | April 22, 2008 12:52 PM

He hasn't seemed to help the Chiefs that much. I'd rather take my chances with the draft when it comes to d-ends. Especially when you consider what you have to give up to get a "franchise" guy.

I think Jared Allen would most certainly be worth our 1st rounder this year, and a 3rd. Whatever he costs. Dude is straight money. Can you imagine him and Andre Carter MURDERING our opponents for the next 4-5 years?

However, why aren't we trying to trade a 1st rounder for Jared Allen... He is a cornerstone franchise DE... and only 26yrs old! That seems like a no-brainer to me.

Posted by: EinVB | April 22, 2008 12:52 PM

Because last year the Redskins were #15 in total offense and #8 in total defense. Where do they have the bigger need -- defense or offense?

He hasn't seemed to help the Chiefs that much. I'd rather take my chances with the draft when it comes to d-ends. Especially when you consider what you have to give up to get a "franchise" guy.

Posted by: psps23 | April 22, 2008 12:58 PM

Yeah, but the Chiefs suck and their D-Line is crap. Like Andre Carter, Allen is the only true threat on their line and still managed to do quite well for himself, mind you.

EinvB, I think that there is something in the works already:

Jared Allen Likely Leaving Chiefs for Vikings, Via Trade or Free Agent Signing
Posted Apr 20th 2008 9:17AM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Chiefs, Vikings, Minnesota, NFL Free Agency, Kansas City

All signs point to Jared Allen being a member of the Minnesota Vikings within the next two weeks, either because the Vikings and Kansas City Chiefs work out a trade, or because the Vikings sign Allen to an offer sheet that the Chiefs decline to match.

In the latter scenario, the Chiefs would get the Vikings' next two first-round draft picks, which means the Vikings would wait until after Saturday's draft, and then send the Chiefs their 2009 and 2010 first-round picks. For the Vikings' brass, the thinking would be that they'll gladly take one of the best defensive ends in the league now over a couple of players they might get in the first round a year or two from now

Beantown, cmon, your going to sit there and tell me these or similar conversations didn't take place...are the details completely accurate..no..will it happen...prolly not...was it discussed..absolutely....

Grey areas my man....

I like Merling in the 1st round and either Hardy or Jordy Nelson in the 2nd round (but wouldn't mind picking up Trevor Laws or Dre Moore at DT and taking Marcus Monk in later rounds). I can't remember who is banging the Monk gong, but I think he'll be this year's "Marquis Colston." Straight baller.

the vikings offer of a 1st and 3rd trumps anything we could offer. their 1st and third have more value than our first and third AND more value than our first and second and it STILL wasnt enough for the chiefs to take the deal. We simply don't have the ammo to get Allen... THAT's why we aren't trying to get him.

CL, Lewis is saying that these conversations did not happen. Below is another internet site that says the conversations did not happen.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080422/SPT02/304220098/-1/CINCI
Lewis denies Chad report
BY MARK CURNUTTE | MCURNUTTE@ENQUIRER.COM

Bengals coach Marvin Lewis this morning refuted an ESPN.com report that the Washington Redskins have offered their first-round pick this year for unhappy Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson.

Lewis, in a pre-draft news conference this morning, said the Bengals have not received any trade offers.

The Redskins reportedly are offering their first-round pick this year (21st overall) and third-round pick next year for Johnson, who has demanded a trade or said he will sit-out.

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The 2009 pick could elevate to a first if Johnson were to hit performance incentives.
"Errant," is how Lewis described the report of the trade offer.

"I don't think there will be any change," Lewis said. "He has a contract through 2011."

"No," Lewis said when asked if team president Mike Brown had received any trade offers.

Lets walk out on the limb of assumption for a sec...if this offer was made, and the Browns rejected it...they are idiots.....

BONG!

Posted by: BigMurf08 | April 22, 2008 12:31 PM

WAIT FOR IT......WAIT FOR IT......

HIT!

Passing back to BigMurf08

Tdawg,

If Anthony Mix has given our staff reason to beleive he can be our #2 this year then i agree with holding off on a receiver until the 5th and grabbing Monk there. However, i don't think theres any way mix can prove that to this team at this point and we are best suited getting Nelson in the 2nd.

where there is smoke there is fire, I just assume everyone is lying and floating truthiness...

And above I meant Browns the owner, and bengals the team...

Lets walk out on the limb of assumption for a sec...if this offer was made, and the Browns rejected it...they are idiots.....

Posted by: chris larry | April 22, 2008 1:07 PM

I think that assumption is as good as proof that the conversation did not happen. However, the Bungles are idiots, so...

Is rosenhause representing anyone else we want, either a current NFL player or an upcoming guy in the draft?

I have a theory...

Vinny is on live now.

cL,
agree to agree.

Beantown, cmon, your going to sit there and tell me these or similar conversations didn't take place...are the details completely accurate..no..will it happen...prolly not...was it discussed..absolutely....

Grey areas my man....

Posted by: chris larry | April 22, 2008 1:02 PM

Agree with you CL. These reports don't come out of thin air. Even if they aren't completely accurate, it's clear to me that something serious was going on.

If there was something I would be skeptical about, it would be the denial from Lewis. You hear the "no such conversation has taken place" all the time, only to see the deal go through days later. I'm not saying it will go through in this case, but there's little doubt in my mind that there were serious discussions. I think Lewis just wants to deny anything until an actual deal is made in order to keep CJ from blowing up any more than he already has.

I bet a porterhouse that Marvin Lewis is most lying...a call was made no doubt in my mind...

Does anyone know anything about Maurice Mann? Zorn just mentioned him as a big receiver on our roster.

Wow CL! Lewis is lying and Mort is not. mmmmn

Of course a call was made.

They're denying it because they don't plan to accept the offer. Later, no one can look back at a trade that could have been. It's CYA.

Good for us, bad for them.

Our FO is a mess but the Bengal is usually worse. Call was made, forgot to tell Marv.

Agreed, CL. Marv is a-lyin'.

Still, considering our position at 21, i say lets get CJ if theyll take the purported deal. We could pick up Cailis Campbell, Trevor Laws, or Dre Moore in the 2nd round and fatten up in the 3rd. Marcus Monk in the 5th.

Check it-- then we'd have: Chad Johnson, Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El, Anthony Mix, and Marcus Monk, PLUS Chris Cooley at TE. Bad arsed.

LONG GETS $30 MILLION GUARANTEED
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 1:16 p.m.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.
Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $4 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.
And since different people interpret the term "guaranteed" differently, the only way to compare Long's deal to Russell's is to line 'em up and parse the language.
For Parcells, it's a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), it's a win because the deal covers one less season.
We'd still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.

Maybe we should pick up a UFA TE to play behind Cooley.

Dude JM220 of course....Let me preface this by saying that lying is completely appropriate so not an insult..

But by motive and design Lewis is lying and Mort is not...its in their job description....

Lewis: Lying is in best interest of team

mort: does him no good to lie, pass rumors yes but not lie

I thought this was a LB thread... are we STILL talking about CJ?

Oh, btw (this is for you chris larry)

C-A-P-S

CAPS
CAPS
CAPS

Lewis is telling the truth:

Why would Marvin Lewis deny that they turned down our offer? If there really was an offer, and it was as good for the Bengals as rumored to be, why would Lewis deny that they turned it down? Having that become public would only further solidify their tough-guy stance and let CJ know he's not going anywhere.

Heres whats going on people:

he skins and drew rosenhaus have a history of scratching eachothers' backs. He and Snyder do favors for eachother all the time. We have been far to obvious in our interest in CJ this offseason. From telling all our HC candidates we want CJ to this most recent rumor, just refuted by Marvin Lewis. What it all amounts to is this:

CJ isn't happy with his contract and wants out of Cincy or leverage on a new contract. Drew tells CJ to start wearing redskins jerseys in public. Drew asks danny if he can put out the word that he wants CJ. With dannys approval, drew leaks the word that we allegedly made this contract offer. All of this is done to benefit Drew and his client.

The benefit to the skins? We could be doing drew a favor - one which he'll return the next time he's doing a contract for a redskin.

Or it could simply benefit us now - the Eagles and Cowboys - our hated division rivals both want receivers and they both have been linked to CJ. We have just drove up the asking price for him astronomically. If they REALLY want him, we've just made sure its really going to hurt them to get him. And if they don't get him, then we don't have to worry about facing Chad Johnson twice a year. Its a win/win situation.

There is no doubt in my mind that Marvin Lewis is telling the truth. The skins never made this offer. Danny may want CJ, but thats not the endgame.

it's a good thing they hired a new PR guy. otherwise there might be some false reporting going on out there.

F you CL is all I got to say after your post.

JM220 why F me.....is Marvin Lewis your man crush or something....jeesh didnt know your were sotouchy about Marvin lewis...

TSH: he is lying

Fake JM220??

It usually 'F CL', not 'F you CL'

There's wasn't even a slap to the back of you head... he just went straight to the F you.

Thems fighting words.

Don't know why Mort would be lying. What does he have to gain? Now somebody might be lying to him and using him. Rosenhaus, Snyder, Mike Brown? My bet is the agent.

There's wasn't even a slap to the back of you head... he just went straight to the F you.

Thems fighting words.

Posted by: Dorf | April 22, 2008 1:33 PM

Yes, serious breach of ettiquette....skipped the double-dog-F-CL and went straight for the throat.

I'm telling the truth.

I disagree with saying we must take X position at any time early in the draft. Pay attention to holes but dont try and fill them day 1, did we need to get LaRon Laundry last time no, we had other options on the roster, but he was the best guy to get in the draft at our position.

1st-Best available player.
2nd- Best available player.
3rd-Best available player.
3rd-Best available player at any position of need.
5th -QB/Best available position of need
6TH- Safety/CB/BAPON
7th- Fill hole
7th- Fill hole
7th- Fill hole

Any time you go into the first round thinking I need a __ you run the risk of missing another better player at some other spot. This is why having the first pick sucks, teams get the sparkle in the eye and feel that they need to find their franchise player at a particular spot and it turns out just not to be a good draft for said position.

Coaching is so much more important to developing a player then drafting high.

Just watched the Redskins pre-draft press conference and there was no mention of a offer for CJ.

why does Mort have to be lying for Lewis to be telling the truth?

Mort was quoting "team and league sources."

Team sources = Washington Redskins FO
League sources = Drew Rosenhaus

The quote from the Anonymous owner = Daniel Snyder

Mort is telling the truth as he has "verified" the deal from two sources.

Marvin Lewis is telling the truth because they never received an offer.

we will never know...Draft Week Twilight Zone1

talkshow, didn't you read the latest word? i'll repost it:

I'm telling the truth.

Posted by: not Marvin Lewis | April 22, 2008 1:40 PM

end of the story.

TSH,

Rosenhaus does not qualify as a league sorce.

Doesn't somebody on here live in cincy and know Chad Johnson? Come on, man, get us the scoop........

I say only one way to handle this Brown-Snyder battle-dome death cage match. No matter what someone comes out a winner and their teams fans come out a looser.

i always tell the truth.

CL you know I am only clowning. I am bored at work and trying to start a blog fight. lol

TSH,

Rosenhaus does not qualify as a league sorce.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 1:47 PM

Why?

If Rosenhaus' goal is to get Chad Johnson off the Bengals and on to another team (presumably with a new contract), then the LAST thing he'd want to do is significantly drive up the asking price by fabricating an offer. If he did, then he just made it exponentially more difficult to get CJ out of Cincinnati.

Marvin Lewis is lying because they're gambling on (1) being able to keep CJ playing for them, or (2) they feel like they can get a little more out of the skins. But they don't want to face the scorn of the Bengals fans and community for making such an obvious error in judgment, especially if the situation turns for the worse and they end up getting significantly less for him. He's protecting himself in the future for taking such a gamble right now.

Has he ever say who he is?

psp/cl, whatever supports your 'internet theory' is so OBVIOUSLY the truth, there is no need to defend it.

Marvin L, is a LAD, lying @ss dog, for trying to make you two look bad.

So Cooley accidentally posted a pic of his tax form on his blog apparently. Its down now, but you could supposedly get his SS# and stuff off it.

So if a 5'2' 125 lb guy trys buying anything from your local store and it says Cooley on the card. May want to check into it.

I tried posting earlier but got stopped by LT.

BENGALS SAY NO OFFER HAS BEEN MADE FOR JOHNSON
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 1:28 p.m.
On Tuesday morning, Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported that the Washington Redskins have offered the Cincinnati Bengals a first-round pick in 2008 and a conditional pick in 2009 that could escalate to a first-rounder for receiver Chad Johnson.
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says that it never happened.
"Mike Brown has not received a phone call," Lewis said at a Tuesday press conference.
Lewis also continues to call Johnson's bluff regarding his intention to retire if not traded. "He's a man of his word," Lewis said. "He says he's not going to play, so don't play. It's time to do what you're going to say you do and we'll just move forward."
So what's going on here? It's possible that the offer was made, and that the Bengals have opted to deny it in order to avoid the intense pressure that eventually will come from the fan base to spare them the antics of Ocho Psycho by getting real value for him right now and moving on.
Really, what can the Redskins do if the Bengals are lying? Call a press conference to say that an offer has been made? (That would be tampering on its face.)
And we continue to be (more) concerned that tampering might be occurring with Johnson. Even if the 'Skins aren't directly talking to agent Drew Rosenhaus, the fact that the Washington Post knows that the team is ready to pay Johnson $21 million in guaranteed money strongly suggests that the team is putting this information out there in the hopes of continuing to stoke the "I want out" fire that has escalated into an inferno.
In our opinion, what the Redskins apparently are doing is 1000 times worse than the conduct that formed the basis for the Bears tampering allegations against the 49ers. In our opinion, the Bengals should file tampering charges against the Redskins today, if for no reason other than to get the Redskins to back off.

I just e-mailed Florio at pft. Here is the dialog:

I just e-mailed Florio at pft. Here is the dialog:

ME: Why would Marvin Lewis deny that they turned down our offer? If there really was an offer, and it was as good for the Bengals as rumored to be, why would Lewis deny that they turned it down?

FLORIOMJ: because if the offer was never made there is no pressure on the team to take the offer from the media and the fans.

ME: doesn't that that go counter to their whole "we're not trading him no matter what" stance?

FLORIOMJ: no it doesn't -- if someone offers them a billion dollars then they look stupid. they want to be able to perpetuate that stance, and they can't do it if someone is making an offer so good that they look dumb for not taking it.

where ey'body at

TALK SHOW HOST PLAYING DIRTY

++++Get a guy who can help your team for 2-3 years, but who likely won't do anything for your team NOW

OR

give up the value of a 4th rounder for a guy who is almost certain to have 1000+yard seasons this year, and the next 4-5 years.

Again, I'm just playing devils advocate here,...
Posted by: TALKSHOWHOST | April 22, 2008 12:29 PM++++

Get the H-E double Hockey Sticks off this board if you're gonna argue logically. I won't stand for it.

Okay, you admit you're the devil so I will treat the witness hostilly. Nah...

I would dig what you're saying if this team was one WR away from a likely run for the SB. But it would be a miracle of miracles for the redskins to contend this year.

They are learning a NEW system with a FIRST TIME coach, who never was a coordination. Not sayin' ZORN ain't the real deal, but his learning curve is likely to be more than just one off-season.

Another reason why I feel the skins are far from challenge-ready? There are no Randy Moss's out there dialing them up, i.e. guys willing to take a LOT lss money to be on a championship team.

I don't know the dude, but CJ seems to be out for the money. He wont' say WHY he hates cincy, and he's late to the table, unlike Moss, who we t into the Tank in Oakland early.

As a result, Cincy thinks they can get more than a One and a Three for him. Oak gave up Moss for pocket change. NO FA's came hat in hand to the skins. Hell, even their own guy (caldwell) wouldn't sign for minimum, but left for little.

So CJ comes to the skins for the money...why else? The skins likely don't win with him next year, but have mortgaged some of their rebuilding future down the road.

We DON'T know what the incentives are. They may be team position, or they may be accomplishment. In any event, it wans't enough for the Bengals. Will Vinnie and Danny walk away? Have they ever?

Remember, Danny is in the money making bidness, and a marketeer. He LOVES the underachieving and injury prone Portis not so much for his gifts on Sunday, but for his gifts on ESPN on Thursday where he costumes up and makes Sportscenter.

Danny WANTS splash, and colorful guys who will keep butts in the seats and the value of his franchise rising.

No one in HOLLYWOOD, where they do movies for a living, offered fading heterosexual Scientoligist Tom Cruise the housekeepping deal he wanted. But he found a sucker in Dan. The price? Appearing beside The Danny in his box.

The trouble with the Cruise and the CJ deal is non-expert people are making the calls. Danny wants the Hype, Vinnie wants to keep Danny happy.

I'd like to see these Leopards change the stripes on their horse in midstream and build a team the old-fashioned hard way, but i don't see it.

And I'm afraid these guys, who can't pull off a major FA deal that's worthwile, won't have a clue as to the right people to draft, either.

Aside from that and seeing the Rocket Surgeons rip Jasno's negative analysis of the draft, I'm looking forward to this weekend.