Uno?

Glad they are passing on Taylor. Not a good fit.

I don't give a rats ass his age or motivation.... if he can get dub digit sacks and A.C. can get dub digit again, w/ the kids in the middle of the line we can make this a tough team for the next two yrs... I'd give a 3rd for him, and make the playoffs or better next year and add picks on the 1st day just like we did in this draft...J.T is a physical specimen.

Bruce Smith?

Both Taylor and Carter play the same position and with Tayloros contract, I think the Skins need to pass on him.

Give Wilson a try to continue where he left off last season.

not a good fit? that's silly. he's a one man house blitz that will make everyone on our defense look like superstars. andre carter/jason taylor would be one of the (if not the) most feared tandem in the league.

i say, adding one of the top-top-top pass rushers in the league with 2-3 good years left for a third rounder is too good an opportunity to pass up. our d-line will instantly go from liability to strength, and will stay that way until 2010 or longer....

DO IT SNYDES

I would pass on Taylor as well. I don't like players so close to the end of their careers getting big money via free agency. Th skins sholud look to build within or look for another option that would give them more than 2 years of service.

Snydes?

He may get cut outright in Miami, so he won't be getting that $8 mill.... besides, the guy can play. As much as I love Wilson, the guy needs 20 lbs added to him if not more....

No draft picks should ever be traded for Taylor.

If Taylor is cut, he should get a severely reduced salary to come here.

Getting him any other way would be a JOKE!

If Blache doesn't think Taylor is a good fit, I have to seriously question him being the choice for defensive coordinator. Taylor rushes the quarterback, tackles and drops back in to coverage. If we can get heat on Romo, Eli, and McNabb this year we are in trouble. All of those teams rush the QB pretty well. Come on Snyder, go get Taylor. You know you want to and it would be a great move.

yaay, finally a blog post without that trademark JLC negative slant. Running low on ammo Jasno?

Not only no, but Hell no to "Dancer, The," or any other bright shiney object that would mark a move back to the Bad Old days.

The guy blew off practices and impressing a new GM and coach to pursue his Hollywood Dreamz. That's fine for him. Good career move, perhaps. But let him be someone else's problem.

Besides, as was pointed out, Carter plays his position. Skins need a Big LDE, not another flyweight who's aging and distracted and showing signs of lack of motivation. Better to develop Wilson, and keep their eyes open for a camp cut to backup Daniels.

And once again, he'd be meaningless to the Redskins next year, who arent' goign anywhere--yet. Build thru the draft, Supplement smartly. And they WILL be back.

There is no way in the world we should pass on J.T. I don't care if he was Dancing with the Cars in the off-season(which is a great way to stay in shape), he produces, is a great teammate and a model citizen! Why do you think his teammates want him back? He would solidify our D and we would be able to bring C. Wilson along slowly! Also, does a first day pick guarantee a starter, better yet an All-Pro, Defensive Player of the Year? I didn't think so! To sum it up Snyder,Cerrato, Zorn, and Blache would be foolish to pass up the services of J.T.(me personally, i would give up no higher than a second!)

There is no way in the world we should pass on J.T. I don't care if he was Dancing with the Cars in the off-season(which is a great way to stay in shape), he produces, is a great teammate and a model citizen! Why do you think his teammates want him back? He would solidify our D and we would be able to bring C. Wilson along slowly! Also, does a first day pick guarantee a starter, better yet an All-Pro, Defensive Player of the Year? I didn't think so! To sum it up Snyder,Cerrato, Zorn, and Blache would be foolish to pass up the services of J.T.(me personally, i would give up no higher than a second!)

Dude let me tell yah something Brah, and ya can quote me on it.

5 or 6 games into next season, when teams are putting up big numbers on smooty flakes and Springs eternal and Doughty is trying to fill that 21 foot crater in the deep secondary and we are the league lowest in sacks, Greg "Im so holier than thou" Blache will be wishing he had ammo like Jason Taylor. Cuz then he wouldn;t have to dial up Marcus Washington or the nickel corner on some exotic blitz, he could pressure with the front four.

Give me a break. Smell some coffee. YOU MUST RUSH THE PASSER TO WIN! Period! Anybody watch the supewrbowl? Anybody see the Pats hang 50 on us last year with everybody dropping back into soft zones? Get real.

You either do risky overload blitzes on one side of the o-line (Philly-Baltimore did this well) or you have beasts on the ends (Giants). There is nothing else.

HTTR!!! Picture this J.Taylor, C. Griffin, P. Daniels(now our starting DT), and A. Carter. With Golson, Montgomery, Wilson and company rotating in to keep the line fresh, we could have a dominant D. I mean, c'mon we sign B. Smith 10 years past his prime(wasn't he like, 50, when he signed with us? A. Archu "letta" offense execute any type of play on me? and Random Lloyd? but we won't make a play for the playmaking J.T. I'mma send Suge Knight to "Vanilla Ice" Snyder so we can make it happen! P.S. THE FOLLOWING YEAR AFTER THE GIANTS FIRST TWO SUPERBOWL VICTORIES THE REDSKINS WON THE BOWL THE FOLLOWING YEAR! In other words- CROWN MY WASHINGTON REDSKINS SUPERBOWL CHAMPS!!! Mark it down!

if he's got four + yrs left in his game (w/out injuries), i say get him.
the last 7 yrs he started every game and he's a decent dude. i'm no fan of his at all but i respect his ability and i've seen him change/ win a few games.
a 3rd round pick is too expenive you say? well, we'll get that back when we trade ARE or Moss next year. b/c hammies have been a problem for both and nothing cures that better than fresh cheap legs.
get JT and lets get back to pressuring the qb. Hail.

let's see, skins 33 sacks 16 games, JT 11 sacks 16 games. JLa is an idiot. a 2nd round for 2-3 years of all-pro def work is a smalle price to pay. big plus, virtually no garbage, just player thinking beyond football.

2 1st rnd picks for a very tempermental player is rediculous.

get a life vinny, offer a 3rd/6th, but b willing to go to a 2nd.

It's not just Jasno saying no to Taylor, its Blache, Vinny and Danny too.

Realist we're more than one player away from making a run at the stuporbowl.

Andre Carter - 6'4, 252; age 29

Chris Wilson - 6'4, 240; age 25

Jason Taylor - 6'6, 255; age 33

None of these guys are built to take on the strong side on a regular basis. Wilson may not be the answer, but neither is Taylor. Philip Daniels? He may be 35, but he is officially 6'4 and 276, and is probably heavier after an off-season of power lifting.

Let Jason Taylor find his bright lights in a bigger city. New York, anyone?

And when did the Illiterati start showing up late at night here anyway?

Thomas impatient to prove his talent
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WarpathInsiders.com May 22, 2008

Devin Thomas is through being patient. The receiver endured a year of community college ball before playing little one season behind three seniors at Michigan State. Finally, Thomas caught 79 passes last fall with seven 100-yard games and 2,590 all-purpose yards -- all school marks. Forget coming back for a senior season.

Forget coming back for a senior season. Thomas was the Washington Redskins' top pick in the second round and will compete with fellow second-rounder Malcolm Kelly for playing time behind veterans Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El. "My confidence is real high so I feel good about going into a situation and performing," Thomas said. "I'm pretty patient, but when I'm ready I should be out there. I feel like I'm ready to take that role."

The Redskins want a big screamer running Z patterns. Someone who can get downfield, fend off a smaller defender and make a big catch. Thomas (6-foot-2, 218 pounds) tried to outmuscle defensive backs during minicamp like his NFL role models Anquan Boldin and Hines Ward.

"I feel like with my size I can fight for the ball using my body," Thomas said. "I can go up at my highest point and box out defensive backs or linebackers going across the middle. I can take some shots and keep on ticking, so I will be all right."

Said coach Jim Zorn: "What you see on video is he is willing to get off his feet to go get a ball. He can track it in. He also is physical. He doesn't shy away from contact. He is in there playing a physical ballgame against the competition that he was playing this year. Those are the things that we saw as well that we really liked."

The Redskins were surprised Thomas was still available with the 34th overall selection after considering him before trading their 21st selection. Mostly, Thomas' size and speed are the attraction.

"Speed, he ran like a 4.4 (seconds over 40 yards) and one time a 4.39 or 4.36," said receivers coach Stan Hixon. "The number one goal was to get a big receiver that could run. He has 4.4 speed and makes plays, touchdown plays."

Said Zorn: "I like the fact that he can run after he catches the ball. He is a young player with a lot of upside. He doesn't have injury problems coming out of college. With Devin, it is going to be how well he can pick up the offense, a whole different language, but his athleticism is right there and we just need to develop him."

Vice president Vinny Cerrato remembered the Michigan State-Wisconsin game when Thomas flashed his speed.

"You see [Thomas] catch a little bubble pass and he outruns everybody to the side, then he breaks it back and he outruns everybody," Cerrato said. "Any time the ball was thrown to him, we watched all of those plays. I don't know that there was one game, I think it was just a combination of everything that led up to it because you saw him do so many different [things]. He can make the big plays and catch short. He can play physical.''

Thomas spent 2005 at Coffeyville (Kan.) Community College, leading the Red Ravens to a 9-3 mark and No. 9 in the NJCAA poll. He caught 33 passes for 674 yards and five touchdowns as a redshirt freshman. Thomas hoped Michigan would take him after attending a nearby high school, but only the Spartans were interested. So much for his beloved Wolverines.

"It was an easy choice," Thomas said. "When I was at junior college, I did real well in spring ball and I tried to get some of the Big Ten guys to come down because that is the hometown area if you want to go to Big Ten school. Michigan State is the only team that came back and offered me a scholarship. I took that and had a chip on my shoulder for the maize and blue and all the other teams. When I had my chance my junior year I tried to dominate as much as possible."

And dominate he did. After catching six passes for 90 yards and one touchdown as a sophomore, Thomas became a third-team All-American and All-Big Ten second-teamer.

Now Thomas seeks to prove he's not a one-year wonder. Adjusting to the Redskins' new West Coast Offense was trying over minicamp, but teammates were also learning so Thomas didn't feel alone.

"I tried to learn things on the fly, but I did all right," he said. "I'm starting to grasp it. Just do what's said."

Thomas has also developed a kinship with Kelly, with whom he roomed during several offseason events. They were reunited in the draft less than an hour apart.

"Malcolm and I have been talking since the combine. He is a great guy," Thomas said. "When the opportunity came, I texted him and said, 'Welcome to the team. We are teammates now.' It is a great situation and we are going to work hard together."

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"That's a team that says now that they are building through the draft and you have to take them at their word there, and after over-spending for so long that now they may be taking a different approach. You can't just build a team one way; there has to be a balance between the pro side and the college side and you can't be balanced if you're always giving away first-day picks. In the first three rounds, you've got to think of those guys as starters."

I just got up from a long nap. Is this guy really talking about the Washington Redskins? What's going on here? Did Dan Snyder die? Did Coach Gibbs retire?

betcha a ham sandwich that Jason Taylor ends up a Patriot.

What is wrong with this picture: $8 million PLUS a first-draft pick for the runner-up in "Dancing with the Stars"?

Look, we already let Archuleta go, and he finished second on "American Idol." Why would we even consider another loser? For that kind of money, we could sign Kristi Yamaguchi AND David Cook, instead of this tired, old has been.

Considering the Redskins gave a 3rd for TJ Duckett, and 3rd and 4th for Brandon Lloyd and many disastrous moves, Jason Taylor is a steal if the Dolphins will accept a 3rd. He's probably easily worth a 2nd as well.

Considering the Redskins gave a 3rd for TJ Duckett, and 3rd and 4th for Brandon Lloyd and many disastrous moves, Jason Taylor is a steal if the Dolphins will accept a 3rd. He's probably easily worth a 2nd as well.

Posted by: David | May 23, 2008 6:59 AM

David,

I think you've just proved the point: Lloyd was worth zero. Duckett was worth zero. And, by extension, Taylor is worth ...

Three wrongs don't make a right, dude.

I think Jason Taylor has something left i the tank and is still a potentially productive player for the next 2-3 years.

But a high draft pick is a potentially productive player for the next 5-10 years.

Throw in the fact that you're also going to have to assume his huge salary and it would just be a bad idea to make a trade for him.

Good call on the part of the FO. (and I think I'm developing a little bit of a man crush on Greg Blache.)

If Taylor is cut and can be had cheapley (say $4 mil bonus and a vet minimum salary) and we don't have to give anything up, then by all means, get him.

Picking myself up off the floor. The facts without the hate. Great job JLC.

I have to agree with the team. Andre Carter already plays his position, and the kind of compensation required to get Taylor is just to much for a guy his age.

No need for Bruce Smith part deux.

I killed the blog. I killed the blog.

I killed the blog. I killed the blog.

Posted by: jm220 | May 23, 2008 8:16 AM

With the hammer you swore only to use for good.

It wouldn't be a good move for ANY team to give up a third for Taylor right now. It's obvious that he's done in Miami, and as we get closer to training camp, the price will drop. I wouldn't give any more than a fourth for a player of suspect motivation who will likely play, AT BEST, two more years.

Thanks TE - that made me laugh outloud!

Hope you all have a great long weekend.

Consider this idle speculation and not ignorant invasion:

David "# 2" Archabingus - sings into the other end of the mic?

Red Snapper 4 life.

Taylor cut? You people need to stop partying with Ricky Williams....

He's one year removed from the NFL's defensive MVP, a huge playmaker and a possible Hall of Famer.

Of course you'd only pay for a player like that if you really thought you had a shot at winning it all. Maybe Taylor's a better fit for Dallas.

Don't give up anything for Jason Taylor! He will probably get cut anyway. Besides, we have a pretty good pass rusher in Andre Carter. Didn't Carter's stats stack up pretty equal to Taylor's stats last season?? Both of them can't be on the field at the same time, and this would hurt the development of Chris Wilson.

Pass on Taylor! If not just for the fact that this is hopefully a new era! Come on, we complain nonstop about The Danny's tired tactics, and then we get some people yelling for it to continue.

Just like complaining about Hollywood not being original, then going to see every remake that comes out.

Keep building through the draft. Next year we focus on the line and a couple other positions (QB?) and we'll be very good in three or four years.

I could beat Taylor in a danceoff any day of the week!

Considering the Redskins gave a 3rd for TJ Duckett, and 3rd and 4th for Brandon Lloyd and many disastrous moves, Jason Taylor is a steal if the Dolphins will accept a 3rd. He's probably easily worth a 2nd as well.

Posted by: David | May 23, 2008 6:59 AM

David,

I think you've just proved the point: Lloyd was worth zero. Duckett was worth zero. And, by extension, Taylor is worth ...

Three wrongs don't make a right, dude.

Posted by: Reformed Alcoholic | May 23, 2008 7:04 AM

That sums it up the best. I can't see paying $8million for JT. I think he's been a good player, but question his motivation and future in the NFL.

As mentioned, maybe NE, Dallas, SD, or Oakland.

I think the Redskins are smart to stay away from JT, eventhough he is a very good player. 8million is too high and he's not going cheap in the open market.

And I totally agree, we need help with our pass rush. I'm disappointed it wasn't addressed during the draft. (higher and more picks) My assumption, our defense is solid and we need to make improvements on offense - so thats how they drafted. IMO, our defense isn't that solid, we need pass rushers and cover guys, esp CB's. LB were strong a couple years ago and now its thin with age. Blache will have to do a heckuva job coaching. More/better offense may help the defense.

Don't give up anything for Jason Taylor! He will probably get cut anyway. Besides, we have a pretty good pass rusher in Andre Carter. Didn't Carter's stats stack up pretty equal to Taylor's stats last season?? Both of them can't be on the field at the same time, and this would hurt the development of Chris Wilson.

Posted by: Redskins Jim | May 23, 2008 9:14 AM

I am not one to think that we should pursue Taylor, mostly for salary cap and future draft consequences. However, to even consider that "he would probably get cut anyways" is almost laughable. Talent-wise, there aren't many, if any, lineman on our team that could match JT.

For that kind of money, we could sign Kristi Yamaguchi AND David Cook, instead of this tired, old has been.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 23, 2008 6:58 AM

You should be ashamed you even know these names. Just because Tony K watches...

For what it's worth I still think JT will be on the field in Miami colo(u)rs come the start of next season. Parcells won't trade unless he gets 'full value' for him, why would he? He would basically cost Miami more to cut than keep!

And JT is no 'team cancer', once he's in the locker room he is the ultimate professional, last year should teach people that. He had a huge falling out with Cameron about the direction and play of the team and still played every down flat out and produced double-digit sacks rushing on his own and double-teamed.

I'd have no doubt about his fitness either, the guy is a work-out machine. The attraction of Hollywood for him right now is more about knowing that he'll probably have to languish the last two-three years of his career in a barely-competitive team when he could (should) be trying to win it all. If he lands somewhere competitive his career will extend not shorten.

Jason Taylor Jason Taylor oooooo controversy!

I think if your front office truly thought a pass-rushing DE was the last remaining piece standing between them and at least a Championship game, Jason Taylor would already be wearing the Maroon and Black.

I think they may be attempting to be realistic for once and for that, they should be applauded.

As I have nothing meaningful to contribute to this morning's Jason Taylor discussion, I will thank Redcoat for his enlightening posts on the subject.

I've made love to more women in the past week than Taylor had sacks last year. And I don't mean that as a criticism of him.

I am really disappointed with some of the "fans" up here. Redskins fans are known to be a little more intelligent than other teams in the league.

Haven't you guys learned anything from the past? Have you not forgotten Bruce Smith and Neon Deion? Jason Taylor wreaks of it.

Blache is keeping with Greg Williams' defense and in that defense which (try and argue with me) has been pretty successful considering the circumstances (ranked 8th, 31st [hurts my argument, lets throw out 2006 as a whole] 9th, and 3rd since 2004).

Let's think about this. They changing the way they do things (everyone has complained about the way they've done things) and when the opportunity comes up to continue the FA flashiness, you guys complain that they pass up on Jason Taylor.

Might as well root for the Cowboys.

Luther, 11 women in one week.

I'm not buying that. If I'm wrong you better get a penneis check.

Dorf,
We have many fans on both sides of the fence, aieeey? I wonder if the ones yelling about getting JT at 8mil and top draft pick are the ones complaining about Jeff George, Deion, and Bruce. Of those three, Bruce being the most productive. (not saying much)

I think the Bears gave us a ham sandwich when we traded archuletta to them. if we still have any of it left, i would consider trading it to the the fins for Taylor. No draft picks though.

I think you guys are fooling yourselves if you think Parcell's will release Jason Taylor. He made it perfectly clear that Jason Taylor will be a Fin or retire. JT says he will not retire so that tells me he will play for the Fins at some point. I am a factual guy but can someone please tell me how these numbers show he is slowing down:

2007: 11 sacks, int, TD, 4FF
2006: 13.5 sacks, 2TD, 2int, 8FF
2005: 12 sacks, safety

And the Bruce Smith argument is weak. Bruce Smith was 37 years old when the Skins signed him. And the crazy part of it he played well that first year before his production went down hill. Jason Taylor is an upgrade to a lackluster pass rush.

I am not one to think that we should pursue Taylor, mostly for salary cap and future draft consequences. However, to even consider that "he would probably get cut anyways" is almost laughable. Talent-wise, there aren't many, if any, lineman on our team that could match JT.

Posted by: drbatchelor | May 23, 2008 9:33 AM

He certainly would not be cut because of performance, but when a team is totally rebuilding and going through changes, good players will get cut. Zach Thomas is a prime example of a good player getting cut.

Luther Vandross?

What did JT do last year?

How many ESPN highlights?

RW was good though is mid thirties but I can't think of another one that could be an all pro at that age.

Oh yeah - good old RW. And don't forget MM, CK, and BW. They were terrific in their later years.

Thanks for bringing up JG Rando... I truly believe that was the beginning of the end of our franchise.

I was trying to forget Super Mullet. Thanks for the reminder.

http://www.nuvo.net/archive/images/09.28.05/spo_jeffgeorge.jpg

you never bring in a player that has leverage. when I mean leverage, Jasons has done enough in his career to say I dont have to play anymore. you dont pay top dollar to someone who has options, you pay top dollar to someone who has something to prove, and Jason and got nothing to prove

Jason Taylor is a helluva player who could only help the team on the field. However, I applaud the FO for not running out to give the Fins a first day pick for a player nearly at the end of his career like they would have in the past. Who knows how the skins will do next year but at least it seems like they've got a plan for once. Now if the Fins cut him or accept a second day pick for him I think the skins should jump on it. Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't it the Fins who said JT was not going to be a part of OTAs and training camp and not JT himself? Parcells isn't going to pay him to do nothing.

YES, DANCE PREPS YOU FOR THE NFL!!!

+++I don't care if (TAYLOR) was Dancing with the Cars in the off-season (which is a great way to stay in shape)
Posted by: the REALEST REDSKIN | May 23, 2008 12:22 AM++++

Boy you NAILED it dude. Not many people know that coming out of the Bolshoi as a Junior, Barishnikov was drafted in the second round by the Raiders and almost signed before deciding to stick with ballet.

Michael Jackson's Moonwalk is still being used by DBs in the NFL on deep coverage.

And for years Vince Lombardi had this quote posted in the Packers Locker room. "Ginger Rogers does everything Fred Astaire does, only backwards and in an evening gown."

Lastly, it's a well known fact in Hollywood that Jerry Jones was a finalist to judge "Dancing with the Stars," but a number of NFL owners (including Snyder) complained, saying it gave the Cowboys an unfair advantage.

Keep keepin' it REAL, REALEST REDSKIN. Parcells, notorious for his two left feet, is just JEALOUS!!!

We don't need this guy. Who really needs a player who single handed outplayed the three bums we used opposite of Andre Carter last season. Taylor only had 55 tackles last year, while Daniels/Wilson/Evans had 75. But then there are those silly stats like sacks, where Taylor had 11 to the trio's 7.5. And another worthless stat like TD's. In some leagues, they count those in your teams final score. Taylor had one last season while the other guys, well I don't know if they ever had one.

I say we get the guy. If we can cough up multiple picks for a bum like Duckett, why not a 3rd for a stud DE who should easily provide two years of quality production.

This feels weird... lauding the front office for their apparent restraint vis-a-vis Jason Taylor after being so disgusted at their lunatic offers for Lance Briggs last year and Chad Johnson this year.

Just feels weird. That is all.

I vote NO on Jason Taylor, and I'm glad to hear our front office is apparently also voting no.

3 TCCLs to the front office for seeming to turn over a new leaf as far as free agency this season

0 TCCLs for drafting WR-TE-WR (I'm just not letting that go, am I? I'm a very small person.)

5 TCCLs for a holiday weekend. Woo-hoo!

-Nate in the PDX

Learn from the past.

Came across the quote my Danny Smith while looking for Skins news. If he is not already voted Mr. Redskins, he should be soon.

Quote To Note: "He's a knucklehead. He messes with me all the time. He'll say, 'Do you want to see it? Do you want to see it?' I say, 'No, we'll work it tomorrow' and he'll snap three perfect ones, laugh his butt off and go. The kid can do anything."--Special teams coach Danny Smith on Pro Bowl tight end Chris Cooley being one of his emergency long snappers along with right tackle Jon Jansen.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgUruJ21ibF0y1dKEiH74w6b2bYF?slug=teamreports-2008-nfl-was&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report

OK, not my Danny Smith...good quote regardless.

Not your Danny Smith, Curzon, but our Danny Smith.

-Nate in the PDX

too bad albright is god.

'Do you want to see it? Do you want to see it?' I say, 'No, we'll work it tomorrow' and he'll snap three perfect ones, laugh his butt off and go. The kid can do anything."

That's what she said.

Pass on Taylor. He's an undersized speed rusher in his 30s. Once his speed is gone, he's just a skinny linebacker with his hand down getting man-handled by 310 pounders. Let's just cross our fingers that the line is OK this year and pray we get a stud at the top of next year's draft.

etrod.
I never made the jm220 Thor connection until I read your post (8:20).

More than 100 employees accepted buyout packages from the Washington Post.

TE, are you still with us?

Greg, have they thrown any more bonus points your way?

I am not buying that Vinny and Synder don't want Taylor. Someone must of kidnapped them and tied them up in a coat closet. Maybe it was that same janitor that was doing an excellent job back in '01.

This is from http://acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=TCCL&string=exact

TCCL = Tom Cruise Couch Leaps (unit of measure on the standard scale of Redskin Insider blog praise)

very nice

test

hmmmm...

interesting...

Hey I'm not happy with my team why don't the Redskins trade for me!

weird...

censorship?

troubling...

big sister?

I don't think we need to give up the farm for JT but something reasonable would due.
So many wussies on here whine and complain about the previous FA signings. But tell me what other previous FA's (beside Smith and Sanders) had comparable ability and/or skill sets?
He's not the missing link, but remember we have been in need of a PRODUCTIVE/ DESTRUCTIVE DE for years!

I'll try posting that again later.

Nothing offensive, so I'm not sure why the overseer isn't letting that post through...

Will follow up on this one for sure.

I am attempting to post a comment relating to the Washington Post and it is not going through.

Other comments, yes, but not this one...

Why?

Censorship rocks?

prolly a word in there that's a no-no

No dirty words in the post.

That's odd...

Remember me?

priceisright,

I guess you just called me a wussy.

So, you have totally been welcomed into and regularly attend the "Lombardi Trophy Now" club. We bought all those expensive FAs because people/coaches/Danny thought they were going to make us competitive. What is wrong with taking a few years to build? In a few years we could have some home grown talent that costs us little to nothing except draft picks and signing bonuses...

Or the team could invest millions into a short term solution when it is clear that the Redskins are more than just a DE away from a super bowl run.

Don't be obtuse. And don't call people names.

Mr. Obtuse.

What? What did you call me?

Also taking early retirement from the paper is Laura Sessions Stepp, whose reporting on lifestyle trends has annoyed everyone in the DC metro area for years now. Two of her best pieces started national conversations.

Conversations on why on Earth the Washington Post felt the need to explain what a "wingman" is in 2006. And also why so many girls are total sl*ts these days (she got a book out of that one, so she's not sweating this).

Sad...

Who will chronicle the terrible sexual habits of the youth at the Post now?

-gawker.com

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JLa?

Just don't call anyone a sl*t!

What? What did you call me?

Posted by: Warden Norton | May 23, 2008 1:22 PM

Obtuse...

Obtuse? Is it deliberate?

someone in this world for a brief momment was in sync with me.

wow.

"... also why so many girls are total sl*ts these days..."

whats the problem here?

nads

You're forgetting yourself.

Dorf- I was wrong to call people names (I'll admit it) but everyone is so gun shy when it comes to FA's.
JT is not the answer but he is a problem for offenses in the league. If we get him cool, if not so be it. But to constantly harp on past mismanagement and mistakes in regard to the FO is getting a lil boring.
I'm no Danny or Vinny fan but I would take them over Mike Brown any day.

"The country club will have his old timecards. Records, W-2s with his names on it. Sir, if I ever get out, I'd never mention what happens here. I'd be just as indictable as you for laundering that money."

-Andy

(ps - dare you to complete the quote)

WE NEED SACKS! WE NEED SACKS!

If you watch how Blache uses the defensive linemen it is almost as if he tells them to stay in their lanes and play the run first on pain of death. They almost don't seem to care if they get to the quarterback or not.

As far as Blache demanding more than Taylor can give is absurd. The guy makes plays everywhere. He would be the 2nd best defensive player on the team behind Landry instantly.

Saying he plays Andre Carter's position is just too bad. Move some guys around on various downs and figure it out. Carter still doesn't play the run very well.

My problem is cash and commitment. What is fair compensation and is he willing to play for at least two more years?

Also, please don't compare him to Bruce Smith. Taylor does way more than just get sacks and has not been a laggard on the practice field.

Lastly, I think there is reason Phillip Daniels has gotten bigger. He must have been told he will play inside more often. Something has been on the books in terms of DE for a long time. Something will happen before the end of training camp at DE, if not Taylor, something.

REDSKINS ONE OUT!

Don't you mention money to me again. You sorry SON OF A B*TCH! NOT IN THIS ROOM, NOT EVER.

(ps - You've got another month in the hole for daring me)

Nice.

Enjoy the weekend everyone! I'm free like Andy Dufresne after he crawled to freedom through five-hundred yards of [stuff] smelling foulness.

(that's the length of five football fields)

The Dorf Abides.

Happy abiding Dorf Dufresne.

Well played, Warden Norton, well played

People, people, dont bring Jason is here. what people tend to forget about when they get all big eyed on FA is chemistry. sometimes the player could be the best player in the league but if he doesnt fit team chemistry, his teamates wont back him. my sources inside and outside redskin park tell me that they dont want him in the locker room, they want their young guys

Someone said earlier...the redskins are more than one quality player away from the superbowl....This seems to be a realistic observation. So, why time & energy even discussing the Jason Taylor type opportunities this year?

Having been a 'skins fan since Griffith Stadium, thru thick & thin, I am enjoying this turn about by the FO and hope they stay on this path...obviously some concern about VC as an evaluator but that could be changing as well...

Lets give Snyder, VC & Zorn to put it together for a year or so before blowing more $$$ & Draft picks on questionable players

beep to the beep

I would be ok with bringing in Taylor but it would only be a 2 year fix and his contract would have to reflect that. I also wouldn't give more than a 4th.

But while Taylor is a great player and a better pass rusher than anything we got, as others have pointed out he is not what we need at LDE, we need a big hulking power rusher that can collapse the pocket, not another speed rusher.

First off, JT would be the best Defensive player on the field. Landry will be a 2nd yr stud. Don't get me wrong, but JT is a beast.... He would make an immediate impact immediately..... ( like the redundancy? ) If they can get him after a cut in Miami, and re-do his salary.... what a better long, strong player for Wilson to mentor under!

Looks like thepriceis----- WRONG, Bob.

there is a Beep Beep, for serious.

people dont fall in love with the name Jason Taylor over the player Jason Taylor. they are two different things. The name is better than the player right now.

People, people, dont bring Jason is here. what people tend to forget about when they get all big eyed on FA is chemistry. sometimes the player could be the best player in the league but if he doesnt fit team chemistry, his teamates wont back him. my sources inside and outside redskin park tell me that they dont want him in the locker room, they want their young guys

Posted by: Great One | May 23, 2008 2:05 PM

Your sources???

What are you talking about? I don't care what the jockstrap scrubber told you.

ONE player who has been loved by the players on his team and has produced should not be a problem.

You make sound like the locker room would revolt against him and the defense players would not do their jobs. That is absurd.

As far as his age...look at London Fletcher.

Reports have surfaced that Danny is trying to get JT to DC in exchange for a #3 pick and a spot on DWTS, with Vinny in the audience to cheer him on.

Great article JLC.

where is lavar(arrington) these days? and might he be considered for d-end position, the guy can't cover but he is a dynamic force at least for 3rd downs, and he could be had for cheap (also still a fan favorite)

they should trade for Taylor. at a 3rd rnd pick it's a no brainier. yeah they finally figured out the right strategy build through the draft i've said it for years. but Taylor is a high character, high motor player. whatever jlc thinks the guy still plays hard, Strahan sat out mini camps they won the championship something we won't do unless we get pass rush and Taylor could provide that. they are sacrificing next year for the future third round pick? they won't give a third round pick for a pro bowl high team leader who is good for 8- 12 sacks a year? we seem to have learned the wrong lesson if now we totally neglect free agency, this is a steal. last year nobody wanted randy moss either.

I think getting Jason Taylor is a great idea. I would give a 2nd round pic for him any day. If we get Taylor we know we should get at least 3 or 4 good years out of him. A second round draft pic may be a bust, but Jason Taylor by no means is a bust. Taylor is a great pass rusher but he has the speed to drop into coverage which can cause confusion to quarterbacks an make it harder for linemen to figure out their blocking assignments. with the pass rush from both sides leads not only to more sacks. It also leads up to more interceptions, an with the speed we have in the back field will score more on defence
It will also lead to less risk taking on defence because we can get a good pass rush out of the front 4. I also think Jason Taylor would be a good presence in the locker room. I have never heard of an of Jason's teammates say anything bad about him. he also stays healthy which another plus I beleave getting Jason Taylor as a redskin is a no brainer an will give us a pass rush at end we have not had sense Charles Mann retired. Perhaps Taylor and Carter could be the next Mann and Manly Getting Jason Taylor for a second or third pic is good deal so lets get it done.

I'm usually can't stand it when we throw picks to get a big name(ex.-Chad Johnson for a 1 & 2) but I think this is a totally different situation from Bruce, Deion, Lloyd, etc. This is a proven guy and there is no reason to believe he will decline this year. He's only a year removed from defensive MVP and after his first three years he has never posted less than 8.5 sacks. Even if he has a down year he is in every way imaginable (including age) an upgrade over Phillip Daniels. This reminds me much more of a London Fletcher pickup than a Bruce Smith.

I would not trade for Taylor either.Just let the Giants or Cowboys step in and make the trade for him and keep the Skins right where they belong at the bottom of the NFC EAST again.