I NEVER LIKE GOING FIRST.

We need an over the hill back up left handed QB ever since we released Brunell. Can you say 'player coach' ?

first!

Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrd!

ok...i should have known being first wasnt that easy...

We need video of the Z-Man tossing bombs to Moss!!!!!

We need video of the Z-Man tossing bombs to Moss!!!!!

These sessions are all off-limits to the reporters and their cameras, right?

-Nate in the PDX

I do like the fact that he's a player-coach. Who's the last one of those we've had? Did Marty play?

When Zorn was here in Seattle, he would regularly warm up the receivers and QBs with throws. Once an NFL QB, always an NFL QB. He has some serious zip on the ball. It was my favorite thing to watch in the Seahawks pre-game, and I really hope he keeps doing it (at least for a little while) as the Big Guy.

Spurrier was the last player/Head Coach. He played for the 49ers and Bucs back in the 60s and 70s.

chchchia!

cough, cough, wheeze... while I hock a big loogie.

I like the fact that Zorn is "active" with the players. Friendly competitions with the DB's and stuff like that is building a cohesive unit.

In all seriousness, which as I said, is not much these days:

The Washington Redskins are in good hands with Jim Zen at the helm.

I *heart* Jim Zen.

Nationwide is on your side!

FIRST ! post in a damn long time... It would be great to see zorn come out in uniform and take the skins down the field for a score LOL

for the bored ones at work, a little trivia -

http://www.sporcle.com/games/nflteams.php

see how fast you can finish it. i got them with 2:13 remaining on the clock.

warning: this is the most addicting website if you continue with the other trivia games. i've already spent over 3 hours today playing on this website.

um...I've still got this "thing" that doesn't seem to be going away.....

if you follwed my advice (thinking about John D in Houston), you got bigger problems than I thought.

Lord

I got 31, but they didn't take Dallas Cowgirls

I am wearing my Shabingus shirt on Saturday.

So appropriate.

I'd take the Dallas Cowgirls any day

this blog stinks

I got 2:14 left on the clock, I was shook. The last one was the raiders and saints for me

saints was the last for me too. coincidence?

whats the deal with the draft picks...are they practicing...i remember after the mini camp after the draft...they werent allowed to participate in teh otas that followed the mini camp...because...and i cant remember exactly...they were still in school taking class (or hadnt graduated yet) or was it because they hadnt actually signed contracts yet...

are they practicing in the OTAs now cause i woudl think theyd all be done with school now...and if its a contract thing...isnt it in the best interest of the skins to get these guys signed...not to mention the best interest of the players to get as much work as possible?

whats the skinny on that? i need a refresher...

Check out the Bod's post about Blache quotes. Good Stuff!

Bog's not Bod's

Zorn as the no 5 qb.. would he get to ware a jersey on game day?

Seriously are there rules against a HC having a jersey or a jersey like gameday look?

Kind of casual out at the Park no? Sleeping in, getting drunk, missing planes, being awol. I don't know skinnies! This sounds a little too much like my life to lead to great successes.

Can someone clarify the story on Tyler Eckler, the dude has had a bad groin injury for two years and he is only a 7th round draft pick. since when do they hold on to 7th round draft picks for two years that cant stay healthy?

I dunno smack, u seem like a responcible upstanding citizen to me.

Moss admits to be hungover and not able to bounce back like he used to! Gotta love it!

I feel your pain Homie!

BONG!

They keep Tyler Ecker because his alarm clock works ...

Ecker is our hidden weapon. Shh, don't tell anyone.

Well, becomming a bit of a fogey myself, I don't see all this relaxed bs working out either - but forcing the issues only worked us into the 2nd round of the playoffs tops with this generation of ballerz.

I guess we'll see, huh?

All this talk of Zorn as player-coach made me wonder when the last player-coach arrangement existed. I think that Jimmy Spencer was given a title of cornerbacks coach at Denver in 2003. Before that I think that the last legit player-coach was Dan Reeves in Denver in the 1971 season when he was running back and some kind of assistant coach too. It was more common in say the 1940s but I gave up looking.

The NFL prohibits you from getting paid any extra $ for coaching, so nowadays it would be more of an honorary position. Other sports prohibit this as well - mainly to prevent circumventing the salary cap.

The last real major sport player-coach as head coach was probably Pete Rose with the Reds - but I may be missing a few examples. Any NFL history experts out there know the last player-head coach?

35332, imagine the thrill of Zorn pulling off his NFL-issued windbreaker and having a gleaming Skins uni on, then trotting onto the field to lead our boys to battle.

Oh wait, that wouldn't be thrilling, it would mean something had gone horribly awry with every available QB.

Would be a fun stunt for preseason, though.

-Nate in the PDX

The playoffs have a second round? I knew it!

I just think he could get away with, lets say a gold jersey different from the regular players maybe with a C rather then a number. to me any former player pacing the sidelines has the right to wear a jersey.

Well, some folks like to call the wildcard round something different... but it's the playoffs so they can just sip on a big 'ol cup of 'Shut the Fkuk up'... It's the first round of the playoffs...

...maps.

George Halas 1920-29 Chicago Bears
Fritz Pollard 1921 Akron Pros
Jim Thorpe 1923 Oorang Indians
Guy Chamberlin was the player coach of several teams.
Paddy Driscoll 1921-22 Chicago Bears
Ernie Nevers 1929-30 Chicago Bears
Earl (Dutch) Clark 1937-38 Detroit Lions

Also, you can go to the following site to see a few that were assistant coach's, including Jimmy Spencer and Dan Reeves.

http://www.kickoffmag.com/webexclusives/jimmyspencer.shtml

There aren't any numbered rounds. They are as follows:

Wild Card Round
Divisional Round
Championship Round
Super Bowl

I assume it is like that because the top 2 seeds in each division don't play in the wild card, so that wouldn't be their 1st round and the divisional round couldn't be the 2nd round because that would be the top 2 teams 1st round........

Ok question. While obviously Zorn is no Spurrier they do have similiar backgrounds being QB's and laid back. Does anyone see another train wreck coaching job from Zorn or do we think he's a different breed?
Also, who would you rather do, Tootie or Joe from the Facts of Life?

Moss probably gave up on the route like he did in that heartless playoff performance against Seattle. Nice job showing up hungover for work yesterday Moss. That just shows his level of dedication. I can't wait until Thomas, Kelly, Mix, Toler and McMullen have passed him in the depth chart because they actually care, don't give up on plays, and can stay healthy.

Wild Card Round - 1st round
Divisional Round - 2nd round
Championship Round - 3rd round
Super Bowl - 4th round

The top teams get a 1st round bye.

It isn't that complicated.

BB, I will save my decision for a few games in or the first player meltdown. My first thought is I like the new approach to a point, I don't care if moss or any offending player is not getting ripped appart in public but as long as Zorn lets them know what's what when the door closes I am cool with that. I mean, the no public spectical thing is from the holmgren tree isn't it. Though for some *cough* reid *cough* it blows up in their face when they get a TO or drug adict son

Anyone got any Advil?

+++We need video of the Z-Man tossing bombs to Moss!!!!!

Posted by: Pete | June 3, 2008 1:25 PM++++

There will be no video permitted until Media Morale improves and they start writing nicer things about us.

Love,

Vinnie & Dan

.

Personally I would rather us go to a 8 team playoff system.
Round 1: a real Division championship
Round 2: Silly meaningless named round
Round 3: Conference championship
Round 4: Little thing called the Super Bowl.

I swear ANON has got a bone to pick with everybody

then: Jo

now: Tootie

-Nate in the PDX

I agree with other board hysterics...

Fred Davis slept through manditory practice. Not so good.

Portis and Landry had a match race, injuring Portis. Didn't tell coach.

Moss blew off practice hungover. Lied to his coaches.

Landry blew off first practice for "family issues," didn't bother to tell his coaches he wouldn't show.

Springs blew off OTAs. Didn't tell anyone anything. Unreachable.

Crack the whip, dudes, before the inmates are completely running the Asylum.

always and forever: Mrs. Garrett

-Nate in the PDX

The playoffs have a second round? I knew it!

Posted by: SMACK | June 3, 2008 3:21 PM

Playoffs? What's a playoff?

Redskins OTA scorecard:

Players arrested: 0
Players holding out for more $$: 0
Players bad mouthing coaches: 0
Players bad mouthing teammates: 0
Players hungover: 1
Low quality video from RI reporters: 2

Overall, its not bad

Still having problems when stand

Alex, you really want them to eliminate the wild card? C'mon, the wild card is pretty great.

And I can point to several recent examples when it has helped our beloved Skins play in January.

-Nate in the PDX

Speaking of tooting ... how about the best quote of the week.

"Just when I was about to change that and wreck my life, the cops came and saved me! I was saved by the bell, by the guys in the Seventh Precinct."

Cork, were you being serious?

Guys had a foot race, and you consider this a bad thing? How many games did Portis miss as a result of his injury?

Oh wait, its JUNE.....and the season is 3 months away....

Mrs. Brady. With Marsha. And Beer.

gotta keep the wildcard!!!!!!!!!

anyone else catch the hockey game last night ... nothing beats the Stanley Cup playoffs

PDX,

I know that. But to me its a joke to call any team a champion unless there is a championship game, not to mention. The Cowboys are considered the devision champs but were stomped by NY in the playoffs how is that right? Same thing happened to the skins 3 years ago. We were not division champs but were the last NFC-E team standing in the playoffs.

I also would say that about the NCAA's PAC 10 "champions".

anyone else catch the hockey game last night ... nothing beats the Stanley Cup playoffs

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 3, 2008 4:13 PM

Hopefully, you just mean nothing beats the Stanley Cup playoffs in early June. I mean, it's not bad for a filler while nothing else is going on, but I can think of many sporting events that carry much more interest factor (including every week of the NFL season).

Eh, 35332, winning the division in the regular season does matter, mostly because it gets you a home playoff game. It means that over 16 regular season games you did better than the other three teams. I do think that counts for something.

What happens in the playoffs doesn't change the regular season record.

Sounds like what you take issue with is calling a team the "division champion" or whatever. I agree that a term like that is silly.

-Nate in the PDX

anyone else catch the hockey game last night ... nothing beats the Stanley Cup playoffs

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 3, 2008 4:13 PM

I was watching it. So, when they were in the 3rd OT, I decided now was a good time to go upstairs in the bedroom (thinking no one would score in the 2 minutes it took me). And Pitt freakin scored. So, I felt disappointed after watching 2 scoreless OTs.........

If tying up a game in the final minute with the championship on the line ... followed by 50 minutes of sudden death overtime with guys flying all over the place, goalies making crazy saves, big hits and some very very near misses ... if that can't get your blood going ... maybe sports isn't your thing (whoever you are :)

I like the Redskins.

i also like the redskins

you have all been infected by the beat reporter, get treatment now. you are talking hockey on the RI. please someone post something new

yes, likey redskins

Every time an OT hockey game ends, its always seems incredibly sudden. In football, you may see a drive and then the team will set up for a FG. Even when Santana made that catch vs Jax a couple years back, he was running for several seconds before he scored.

But in hockey, its about .2 seconds from action to over. So quick

+++We need video of the Z-Man tossing bombs to Moss!!!!!

Posted by: Pete | June 3, 2008 1:25 PM++++

There will be no video permitted until Media Morale improves and they start writing nicer things about us.

Love,

Vinnie & Dan

Posted by: Corkczar | June 3, 2008 3:47 PM

This isn't about management, but about the media's incompetence. Jason Reid's been out there all day trying to get video and all he can put up is his own talking face.

If tying up a game in the final minute with the championship on the line ... followed by 50 minutes of sudden death overtime with guys flying all over the place, goalies making crazy saves, big hits and some very very near misses ... if that can't get your blood going ... maybe sports isn't your thing (whoever you are :)

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 3, 2008 4:34 PM

As I said before, for June it's not so bad. However, I would by far rather watch a Redskin preseason game than any hockey game.

Springs's absence drew strong comments from Phillip Daniels on Tuesday.

"As a veteran, I would expect him to be here," Daniels said. "We need him to be a leader of that [cornerbacks] group back there. He's the oldest, so you have to show that leadership. The young guys in the secondary, they need that.

"There might be a reason he's not here--I'm not sure. But at the same time, if there's no reason...It's my 13th year and I'm here. Be here. Be a leader. That's how it is."

Way to step and be a vocal leader Phillip Daniels, hopes it translates in being a leader on the field

All hail Dan Snyder.

First comes the fan message board. Then comes all of the radio stations. Next comes the WP and all of the local papers. And finally, in the year 2015, it will be illegal to publicly speak out against Napolean Snyder. If caught, you will be tried by Judge Larry Michael and sentenced to death.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/03/AR2008060302008.html

If Daniels really said that... was he paying attention last year?

Has Springs done anything different this year than last?

Just curious...

-Nate in the PDX

Nate - wasn't the main reason for Springs absence last year related to his father? Or, was that the year before?

Corkczar,

GET OVER IT! Your comments are a little premature. It is obvious that Zorn is not Shottenheimer. Nor do we want him to be, because then we would never win a playoff game.

Stop trying to connect events that are likely unrelated. We are less then two months into the offseason.

I think Nate that maybe Daniels is suggesting there is a difference between Springs missing OTAs in Gibbs' year 4 (and year 4 under GG) and missing OTAs in Zorn's year 1 (and year 1 - sorta - under Blache).

your team does need everyone to 'bond' again within the new management and coaching construct. I would just put it differently. "What harm could it possibly do for Springs to be here for OTAs"?

The thing is , last year was Gibbs' 4th season this is Zorn's first. I think that a leader steps up and puts the team first. Let the young guys know that there is important work to do to make this a successful transition.

Thanks Pat, your post was so much better than my mealy-mouthed attempt!!

Springs was hung out to dry by Skins mgmt ... wanting him to take a big paycut despite his quality play. Springs refused to back down and was a bit like Jason Taylor is now. HIs team didn't want to keep him and his trade value was small due to age, injury history and contract. So Springs stayed away from the offseason stuff. I think it left some hard feelings.

But Springs did show up ready for last season and clearly earned his pay as one of the Skins top players. If he plays anywhere close to 2007 level, Zorn will not have a problem with him

I also think having Daniels call you out makes the point nicely

All valid AL, Zeke, and all nothing to do with Zorn. I'm just surprised that with a new guy running the show, Springs would feel there is no benefit in spending time with the guy or in spending time with his team-mates either. As Daniels said "being a leader".

the NFC East...is cooked.

Will Springs show up prepared? Yeah. Will Zorn have a problem with it? No. Should Springs be here? You bet your a$$.

Is it possible that Springs simply feels that he can condition himself better on his own with his guru in AZ? After last season I have to wonder if he is right. Does his absense have to be the result of his issues with anyone?

Weather forecast for Saturday's Shabingus:

low 90s, humid.

Beer me.

- 4-12 as loco mullin

I don't think it was any hard feelings left.

Springs took a chance. They asked him to take a pay cut. He refused and said he wasn't coming until after June 1st so he can work out and be in top shape just in case he was cut.

This will be the 5th year they are under this defense, so missing a few practices in May won't hurt him.......

What if Fake Nate shows up at RFD on Saturday introducing himself as Nate in the PDX and then the real Nate comes in and says he's the real Nate and no one believes him since they have been chatting it up with the fake Nate?

All true 4th and all nothing to do with what Daniels was saying. Daniels was saying that the teams NEEDS Springs to be here, and he's not.

It's not about whether he will be fit or not, of course he will, it's about him contributing to the good of the whole, not just himself.

Did Springs and Zorn cross paths in Seattle?

What if Fake Nate shows up at RFD on Saturday introducing himself as Nate in the PDX and then the real Nate comes in and says he's the real Nate and no one believes him since they have been chatting it up with the fake Nate?

Posted by: 4th | June 3, 2008 5:14 PM

Well which one has my game ticket? I want to hang out with him? would fake nate have a evil star trek parallel universe beard thing? Then again does non evil parallel universe nate have a beard?

++++Cork, were you being serious?

Guys had a foot race, and you consider this a bad thing? How many games did Portis miss as a result of his injury?

Posted by: Greg | June 3, 2008 4:06 PM++++

ZORN is a fun guy. He probably would have encouraged it. Which is cool. Point is, he was kept out of the loop, and an injury occured. Individually, no biggie. But as part of a pattern--it worries me.

I dunno, could be Blache and Buges are kicking patootie. Zorn wisely asked Clinton to be a team leader on offense and Daniels stepped up on defense as a leader.

But in case you haven't noticed this team has been "lost" by coaches in the recent past. Hate to see it happen again.

Springs should be there. OTA's aren't just for getting/staying in shape. Get to know the system better, know your teammates better etc. He can "train" all he wants in AZ, but aside from staying in good shape, it does not help him in the least. Technically we have a new DC, so he should be there getting to know any tweaks to the system.

As far as Facts of Life:
Jo for a while, but once Tootie blossomed it was all over. Kind of like comparing apples to oranges, or in this case, apples to cantalopes. Big cantalopes.

I don't think the Skins ever asked Springs to take a pay cut. They simply wanted him to convert salary into a guaranteed signing bonus that would free up space under the cap for other purposes -- like signing FAs or extending key player contracts. A lot of Skins players take that deal every year. I assume he was selfish and wanted the prestige of saying he made 7+ million last year.

Springs is an excellent player and he's worth the money, but I agree with Daniels that he should display better leadership for the new coaches and players. It's unprofessional that he's the only Skins player not at the OTAs this year. And it sets a bad example for the rookies.

Maybe he's scared that Zorn will throw to his side during practice...

skins actually wanted him to take a 2 million pay cut. no up front cash, converted signing bonus, etc, simply wanted him to cut his base salary last season by 2 million.

If Daniels is calling him out then that says a lot. It's a good sign if the players have to do it and not the coach (sometimes). Riggins thinks Moss should be cut, and questions Zorn's disciplinary style. I think it's a bit premature to say he's too laid back. I don't think Zorn was brought in to be a whipcracker. I think he was brought in to win football games.

John "loosen up Sandy baby" Riggins thinks Moss should be cut!! John "I'm going to Kansas with my mohawk" Riggins thinks Moss should be cut!!!!

I guess John lost a few memory cells along the way

Riggins is old school, the game and players have changed since his day. Doesn't Springs work out with McNabb in AZ? He manages to get to his OTA's. I don't think it is a big deal he is not here but why be the only one. He could help Smoot to teach these young guys like Tryon and Westbrook how to be better players. It is after all about the team and winning games. His comment from last year about being paid 7M to be the nickel was fine with him after he didn't start the opener says a lot about him.

Tootie, hands down...

I don't think the Skins ever asked Springs to take a pay cut.

Posted by: Siris | June 3, 2008 6:07 PM

No, they wanted him to take a pay cut.

BJ's in the rain.

Wow, Erasmus James, Stuart Schweigert, busy week for the skins!

Does it amaze anyone that Jasno can't spell his own name, but got Schweigert correct?

Chia, don't you think someone needs to throw Natalie a mercy?

Welcome back kost, how was getaway?

SMACK, was excellent mate! Had a ball, I think now that I've broken the overseas cherry, I'll make a bigger effort to travel more often. Pain in the ass coming home to a Melbourne winter though!

SMACK, has anyone started up any sort of Euro 2008 comp on the blog?

splitin the sweater kittens

Chia, don't you think someone needs to throw Natalie a mercy?
Posted by: SMACK | June 3, 2008 9:35 PM

No, I'm pretty sure there's no such rule. Although I keep seeing her listed as one of the voices on 'Scooby Doo', so maybe she's rollin' in dough.

No there's some classified imagery.

kost, if you think Melbourne in June is something, you should visit San Francisco in December!

Like, say, this December. When the Redskins play there. They won't get much closer to you than that, any time soon. Just a thought...

Welcome back, mate.

-Nate in the PDX

Titty Monster

kost, Saturday's opening fixtures are Switzerland-Czech Republic and Portugal-Turkey.

I daresay SMACK and the other soccer fans coming to the meetup will be able to tear themselves away from the Euro coverage with little difficulty.

Thank goodness the Oranjes don't play until Monday. Er, that's probably Tuesday or maybe Wednesday where you are.

-Nate in the PDX

Maybe Sheppard is hanging out with Springs?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3424426

-Nate in the PDX

Maybe, just maybe.

Throw Natalie a mercy?

Sure, why not?

I could use some sympathy myself...

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers running back Noah Herron thwarted a would-be burglar by hitting him with a bedpost during a break-in at his home.

-espn.com

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Looking around my home, and I have no bedpost to thwart any would be burglars.

Then again, looking around my home, I seriously doubt any burglars would be interested.

This story bums me out on many levels...

-RIP #21-

Pardon me while I mono-blog.

It could be worse - my situation - at least I don't have man boobs, or "moobs."

Also, I could have some deadly virus - being an inanimate clay figurine is not without it's advantages.

I think...

This one is for our resident curmudgeon, Talent Evaluator:

A recent study points to an area of the brain previously unrecognized as the source of one's sense of sarcasm. Before now, doctors may have brushed off those who reported a loss of the ability to detect sarcasm: "The family will say the person has changed dramatically, but even neurologists will often just shrug them off as having a midlife crisis." But now we know it's a sign of dementia! Fortunately this is not the same part of the brain that makes you sarcastic, so as you get old you will think everyone around you is a twit while you get meaner and meaner.

Of course if you're a blogger, you won't notice the difference!

Hey-oh!

-gawker.com

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I *heart* TE

Preparation H: "It Gets You Shredded"

We told you before how to make your pecs look ripped before getting all up in the club: rub yourself down with Preparation H! (It's the gayest thing we've seen straight men doing in a long time.)

-gawker.com

http://gawker.com/tag/nightlife-trends/?i=394828&t=preparation-h-it-gets-you-shredded

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FYI, ya'll...

Last one:

Rob Walker, who writes the "Consumed" column in the New York Times Magazine every weekend (a sweet "job"), has a new book out in which he draws the sad--but unavoidable--conclusion that we are all a bunch of sheep blindly obeying a world of marketing messages.

PBR was more sure-footed: The brewer carefully cultivated its image among the indie crowd by taking great care not to cultivate its image: no ads on local radio, no celebrity endorsements (despite nibbles from Kid Rock) and certainly no TV. PBR's divisional marketing manager, cribbing tactics from Naomi Klein's anti-corporate manifesto, "No Logo" (full of "many good marketing ideas," he told Walker!), worked to make PBR "always look and act the underdog." He was so successful at retaining the brand's cachet (or anti-cachet) that one 28-year-old Oregonian whom Walker interviewed had a foot-square Pabst logo tattooed onto his back. "Pabst is part of my subculture," the kid told the writer, pointing to the absence of Pabst advertising as evidence that "they're not insulting you."

-gawker.com

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It stands to reason they would have found the guy with that tattoo in Oregon.

One of Nate's drinking buddies?

Personally, I could never understand the PBR phenomenon, other than it's good and cheap. I place I know sells imperial pints, that's 20 ounces, of PBR for $2 bucks.

I partially agree with Riggo. Moss needs to go but he can be traded. He is injury prone (or he doesn't know how to properly stretch his hamstring), he disappears for games at a time, he is not suited for this offense, he gave up in last year's playoff game in Seattle, and he just showed that partying for his birthday was more important than OTAs. He has had the entire off season to party.

The difference between Moss, and vets like Thrash and ARE is that they are dedicated and they know that they are expendable. Moss is under the impression that he is bulletproof.

The Zornskins don't need a cancer like him spreading his bad habits to the new crop of WRs that have potential, are suited for the West Coast offense, and are hungry.

Trade him to Miami for Jason Taylor and give a boost to the D-line in addition to ridding themselves of a potential problem.

I partially agree with Riggo. Moss needs to go but he can be traded. He is injury prone (or he doesn't know how to properly stretch his hamstring), he disappears for games at a time, he is not suited for this offense, he gave up in last year's playoff game in Seattle, and he just showed that partying for his birthday was more important than OTAs. He has had the entire off season to party.

The difference between Moss, and vets like Thrash and ARE is that they are dedicated and they know that they are expendable. Moss is under the impression that he is bulletproof.

The Zornskins don't need a cancer like him spreading his bad habits to the new crop of WRs that have potential, are suited for the West Coast offense, and are hungry.

Trade him to Miami for Jason Taylor and give a boost to the D-line in addition to ridding themselves of a potential problem.

All hail Dan Snyder.

First comes the fan message board. Then comes all of the radio stations. Next comes the WP and all of the local papers. And finally, in the year 2015, it will be illegal to publicly speak out against Napolean Snyder. If caught, you will be tried by Judge Larry Michael and sentenced to death.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/03/AR2008060302008.html

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 3, 2008 4:48 PM

Thanks for posting this! I miss a lot of this news since I'm up in PA. Having worked at WTEM, it would be DISASTEROUS for Sports Talk radio fans in the D.C. area if Snyder buys that station. Not only is FoxSports radio FAR superior to the ESPN programming, but it would be a daily exercise in brainwashing by Snyder. I heard Riggo's show before I left town, and I still can't believe the watered-down version of our beloved out-spoken former RB that's on the air! He used to speak out against Snyder and anything else he deemed wrong with the Redskins when he had a weekly show on WTEM, but now that he's getting Snyder money those days are long gone.

Clear Channel is going to do what's best for Clear Channel, but I sure hope they hold on to SportsTalk 980. I would sure hate for the "Voice of the Fans" to become the "Voice of the Redskins PR Department".

Trade Moss, I think you're going a little too far. Santana Moss does not appear to be a cancer in this locker room.

I give him a pass for missing a day of OTAs after his birthday weekend; maybe I'm too forgiving. But I haven't seen anything from him that indicates he "is under the impression that he's bulletproof" as you suggest.

He's still our top wide receiver, just as Springs is still our top cornerback.

I'm not saying this makes either of them above reproach, just that before getting too outraged and suggesting this or that trade or punishment, we should consider the implications.

We're a better team with Moss and Springs on the field than without. That's my opinion. Just trying to take a longer view, beyond this June feather-ruffling and saber-rattling.

-Nate in the PDX

I agree Nate. Springs has proved he can workout on his on and come in good shape. Moss without question is the best WR we have right now. He miss one day. People really need to just breath.

Thongs!

Trade him to Miami for Jason Taylor and give a boost to the D-line in addition to ridding themselves of a potential problem.

Posted by: Trade Moss | June 4, 2008 3:05 AM

The CPU on Madden wouldn't even go for that trade; you think the Tuna will? Hang on to Santana, he's the best receiver we've got right now.

SHABINGUS!!!

brownwood, I have to agree that based on what I've heard secondhand up here, I'm glad I haven't been listening to Riggo radio the past couple of years.

I love the guy too much to bear the thought of him kowtowing to Snyder/toeing the company line... though I guess I've heard criticism pro and con, so who knows. Hard to tell, really, when listeners seem so polarized. Symptomatic of the times.

-Nate in the PDX

Yeah, hopefully everybody coming to the DC shabingus on Saturday got a remainder email from me yesterday with details...

Anybody else out there who wants to get in on the fun, drop me a line at nateinthepdx at gmail dot com. Much merriment.

-Nate in the PDX

Moss needs to go but he can be traded.

Trade him to Miami for Jason Taylor and give a boost to the D-line in addition to ridding themselves of a potential problem.

Posted by: Trade Moss | June 4, 2008 3:05 AM

How can the Redskins afford to take the cap hit from trading Moss, pay Jason Taylor $8 million and still be under the salary cap?

How can Zorn be successful with a coching staff chosen for him. Pitiful Deadskins will be 4 and 12 or worse.

Why do you ladies get so excited about this crap? Season starts in Sept girls!

Why do you ladies get so excited about this crap? Season starts in Sept girls!

Posted by: | June 4, 2008 8:44 AM

That's where you are wrong. For the Redskins, the season starts in late February and ends in September.

I sure am sleepy.

From the other paper:
The Washington Redskins have asked Carlos Rogers to be patient in his return from a torn ACL and MCL in his right knee. That, however, has not been easy for the injured cornerback, who stalked the sidelines in frustration yesterday because he couldn't participate in walkthroughs during organized team activities.

"It's hard because you know you can do things. You see how your leg's coming," said Rogers, who the medical staff says won't be ready for the start of the regular season. "I'm breaking and cutting in individual drills, so what's wrong with doing a walkthrough? I guess my knee's about 80 percent. I don't feel it cutting and breaking, doing all the [defensive back] drills ...

"They tell y'all that I won't be back until after the season starts, but the way my knee feels, I'm not going to miss no half a season. I'm on track to be out there for training camp. I know I'll be there first game. I'm not going to miss that."

The Redskins open the season against the Super Bowl champion New York Giants and receiver Plaxico Burress, who beat Rogers for the winning touchdown in Week 2 last season. Burress visited Redskin Park recently and bragged about how he planned to do the same this season.

My only question is why is Buress at Redskins Park?

No problem, Freddie. I'm just glad to see you up before noon.

Don't you love when anonymous Cowboy fans talk to themselves on a Redskins blog? Can't wait for that Dallas implosion this year...

Seriously, why is Plaxico at Redskins Park? And why hasn't anyone in burgundy warm-ups smashed a helmet against his head?

Seriously, why is Plaxico at Redskins Park? And why hasn't anyone in burgundy warm-ups smashed a helmet against his head?

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 4, 2008 8:52 AM

They let Plaxico at Redskin Park probably for the same reason that they let you here on this blog. At least he is a legitimate presence. You, on the other hand, bring no value whatsoever.

Brown, no kidding?? He shows up at Redskins park, and starts trash talking Carlos Rogers? And there is NO REACTION?

Someone punch this guy in the face, where's jm220? Can you fedex yourself and the hammer to Redskins park?

They let Plaxico at Redskin Park probably for the same reason that they let you here on this blog. At least he is a legitimate presence. You, on the other hand, bring no value whatsoever.

Posted by: Slim Shady | June 4, 2008 8:56 AM

Looks like that poser Great Anonymous is back...

Wasn't the Plaxico thing a long while back?

Don't get me wrong, it's puzzling that he was welcomed into our team's complax for a visit, and I hope he never darkens our door again or whatever, but I think we already got outraged about this a few months ago.

Just trying to manage my outrage. It's a long offseason, folks, we gotta pace ourselves.

-Nate in the PDX

thanks, brownwood, for recognizing me as great.

I guess, its good to see that both Rogers and Rocky are seemingly either on, or ahead of schedule.

so what do you guys think about Osama Obama finally winning the Dem nomination. Will Hitlery be his running mate?

Will there be any convictions or ethics left in this once great country if they manage to desecrate the White House for the foreseeable future?!

The questions run rampant.

The only thing running rampant is Bush's ignorance. The only convictions should involve Dick Cheney.

But that'll be my only political post of the day.

Barno,

Obama's your friend. If he wins, he'll get your autographed DVD for you and give Jasno a sharp rap on the knuckles. Obama will pose for a picture with you at the White House.

Just keep on being patient. It won't be much longer.

Not going to dignify that hateful 9:09 comment with a response, other than to once again wonder aloud, Barno, why you insist on bringing that claptrap into this conversation.

If I want hateful, fearmongering right-wing drivel blown at me in terrific gusts, I know where to look for that. I just don't want it here, and I don't want to see any politics up here. Brings out the worst in people... though I think that's what you want, right? And that's why you do it?

-Nate in the PDX

Someone punch this guy in the face, where's jm220? Can you fedex yourself and the hammer to Redskins park?

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 8:56 AM

No doubt Greg. Dirty 30 better rocks this clown

I mean, if that cat wants to come to Redskins park to see some of his boys or something like that, I got no problem with that. But I can't imagine a guy like Jansen, or LL hearing this stuff, and not having a reaction to it.

Talk politics all you want Barno, but this kind of BS..."Osama Obama" and "Hitlery" just show what kind of hyper partisan siht heel anti-American you are. We are all one country you know. wow...just wow.

CL where you been? I tried to start a blog fight with you the other day.

JM220, have you I slap you around so often on here, it becomes less fun..ya know?

"JM220, have you I slap you around so often on here, it becomes less fun..ya know?"

Yikes to tired to type coherently....

I meant:

JM220, I slap you around so often on here, it becomes less fun..ya know?

You said you lost your red lip stick. Sorry to hear that CL. I know how your girls are about that type of stuff.

JM, If I did wear lipstick I would look like your type and you'd prolly hit on me.....

Hey, our man Bucktown Skins Fan is now cub reporter Bucktown Skins Fan, doing interviews. He interviewed Cooley! Check it out.

http://thebiglead.com/?p=6098

Pretty cool.

-Nate in the PDX

Plaxico is from Virginia Beach...

DC is sort of on the way to NY???

Plaxico is from Virginia Beach...

DC is sort of on the way to NY???

Posted by: Dorf | June 4, 2008 10:01 AM

I don't give a rats a** where he is from. You don't come to my house talking smack.

Yeah, I'm with JM, stop by if you want, but flap your gums, and its on.

Great link Nate...

Great interview Bucktown...

-Dorf in the USA

So what's the real story with Plax? Did he show up? When? How? I can easily see this mattering a whole lot more to uber-fans and cyber dorks than the actual players.
Plax carries himself well. I can't imagine this being a pinnacle offseason catalyst for a Redskins Super Bowl run.
My opinion (not humble mind you) is BIG DEAL.

This stuff about Plax obviously never happened. The sentence above is taken from "the other paper." If this had actually happened Jason LaCanfora, the Redskins Insider, would have been all over it and it would have been in the Post last week.

Forget it. Nothing happening here. Move on, everybody.

Talk politics all you want Barno, but this kind of BS..."Osama Obama" and "Hitlery" just show what kind of hyper partisan siht heel anti-American you are. We are all one country you know. wow...just wow.

Posted by: chris larry | June 4, 2008 9:36 AM

Certainly not Anti-American, just Anti-American People (or at least, the prevailing culture of this once great country's people). Osama Obama's wife is Anti-American.

And true, the other parties political platform has, without doubt, made me into a hyper partisan whatever that was you called me.

* beep beep *

By the way, how do I get involved in this "shabingus" you guys are throwing this weekend? I can't think of anything I would rather do this weekend than spend some quality time with my Redskin Insider buddies.

+1 me!