Fingers crossed that this isn't bad...

As bad as it sounds, I mean.

Also, crap.

Oh COME ON!

Nooooooo!!!

Not good. What is it with our WRs and hamstrings?!?!?!?!

Mike Espy...

I guess thats why you draft two......

He was on NFL Radio on Serius last night. Wonder if its a jinx.

excuse me, our draft needs are exactly the same as last winter! :)

This is great, we are getting way to many injuries in this camp and its only been going on for a couple days now

:(

Not 100 percent sure it's a hammy....but it looked that way to noted physicians Jason Reid and Jasno La Canfora. And to our intern.

What the...? Every year...Cerrato could seem like a genius now with his multiple picks of WR if one already went down.

As for the scrimmage, I was just being hopeful I could see some Skins in action as I'm in Westminster near B'more camp and have had enough (yes it's only been open 1 day)

If Drs. Reid and La Canfora were on the scene, I might ask for a third opinion...

But anyway, this sucks. No more freakin' injuries.

It's only 10:30 and I'm having my first beer already.

No worries. If Devin and Malcolm go down, we can always throw Sleepy in at the slot.

With the offense we fielded last year- predictable, conservative, run first, filler OL due to injuries- most Ds were able to put 8 in the box, our WRs were not able to break away, it's a wonder JC did not look worse last season. This year he will make believers out of all the doubters out there (here).

Zorn needs to call plays as if his job is not on the line and JC needs to play as if his job is not on the line. With that mindset, the Skins will win.

just wait till the preseason games...

wuta fudge..i hope its nothing serious

Effing hammies. Well, at least we know our medical staff has experience with those. And at least it's not ligament or tendon damage (hopefully). It could be worse.

Any more injuries and that cart is going to be carted off.

I think our WR's need to get their own bubbles during camp.

that's what we get for picking the spartan over Manningham from MEEEECHIGAN!

Any more injuries and that cart is going to be carted off.

Posted by: SMACK | July 24, 2008 10:30 AM

Good one, SMACK!

CRAP!!!!!

Please be nothing serious.

Just got my text. 15 mins after the post sweet.

I hope all the steps taken have been precautionary. I didn't think he would see much action this year anyway.........

Lets hope its a pull and not a torn.
pull = out a month
torn = out a year

"official" blog says that the injury doesn't look good either...take that for what it's worth.

From the Redskins blog.

After beating a defender but missing the catch (on a well-thrown long ball), rookie WR Devin Thomas went down on the sideline, apparently with some sort of leg injury, and was ultimately taken off on a cart. That much is sure.

This next part is COMPLETELY UNCONFIRMED at this point, but I wasn't far from the injury when it happened and the chatter about the injury did not sound promising at all. AT all. Again, this is an unconfirmed rumor based on things I overheard.

Cerrato could seem like a genius now with his multiple picks of WR if one already went down.
Posted by: svxcountry | July 24, 2008 10:25 AM

Shouldn't we be blasting him for wasting all of these draft picks on injury prone players?
I don't like that he was "carted off"; wouldn't you be able to walk off with a minor hammy pull? Anyone know if Smoot got carted off or did he walk off the other day (and then came back the next day like nothing happened)? To quote Grouchy Smurf: "I HATE TRAINING CAMP!!!"

He was taken reps with the starters, opposite Moss.

dagger

I must admit that this is coming from the same guy who said he didn't think Daniel's injury was serious.

Come on! This is ridiculous.

Hope he's okay, for his sake and the team's.

Well lets see what Mix and Kelly can do!

Yes, if it's Minor he should be able to walk off but carting off is okay for training camp for precautionary measures if needed.

This next part is COMPLETELY UNCONFIRMED at this point, but I wasn't far from the injury when it happened and the chatter about the injury did not sound promising at all. AT all. Again, this is an unconfirmed rumor based on things I overheard.

So who do we believe, the WAPO beat reporters or the new blogger for the Redskins.

I'm going with the new guy, myself.

I hope all the steps taken have been precautionary. I didn't think he would see much action this year anyway.........

Posted by: 4th | July 24, 2008 10:34 AM

Uhhhhhhh........what planet are you living on? You think Thrash was going to be the third WR????

damn! i hope it is a mild pull. love the text updates

Cyn, let us know what you find out asap before we all go crazy with panic.

I know its futile, but is anyone else chanting "Just a cramp!" in their heads...

And can you believe we play 5 preseason games?!?!?! What a curse. That is such a joke. The league shortens rosters but expands preseason....ugh!!!!

The HOF game participants should skip week 1 of preseason games!!!!

No me gusta pre season!!!

let's all pray...ohh wait wrong regime...let's use our energy to be one with his energy and heal his body

It's the curse of chris larry. More people should verbally assault him to make him go away, like Barno.

wouldn't you be able to walk off with a minor hammy pull?

Posted by: dlhaze | July 24, 2008 10:40 AM

As someone who has a pretty extensive history of hammy pulls, I'd say that if it's very minor (like a week-or-two's worth injury) you could walk off pretty easily. If it's a severe hammy pull (like a month or longer), you can still walk off - but it takes FOREVER (because you can't stretch your leg past a couple degrees). At that point, it's just easier to be taken on a cart.

For what it's worth, some hammy injuries can look crippling, but only be about a month or so recovery time. At this point, I think we all would take a month-long injury for Thomas.

I agree with the whole preseason thing...I hope the starters don't play til week 2 of preseason...as much as I want to see them, I want to see them healthy against the Giants.

Instead of new coaching changes, we should look a better training/medical staff. Every year we lose someone that is a very key contributor. If we had a medical and training staff that taught our guys to practice all of the stretching and conditioning requirements, we may have a full season of starters.

I wonder where are all the whiners now who complained about drafting 2 receivers. JLC I'm talking to you. If this injury is serious at least were in a position where we don't have to scramble to find a replacement.

Oh $&%*!!!

And LaRon also tweaked his hammy. Is there some kind of injury curse on this team?

Let's start every practice with mandatory stretching!!

He probably blew out the hamstring trying to catch up to an overthrown pass by Jason "Hang em out to dry" Campbell.

Campbell's inaccuracy is goint to take out our top level receiving corps one at a time. That's if he gets rid of the ball before getting knocked on his back.

Also, he has to be smart enough to read the defense to even have a shot at overthrowing his receivers.

We should have traded JC when he had some value. Now Thomas is the first of his many casualties this year.

The Official Redskins Blogger is horrible, terrible, and dreadful! Where did they find that guy?

Come on 'DannyBoy, u could have picked Bram on somebody in here!

the NFLPA should try to slip a shorter pre-season into the next CBA. I doubt it'll happen but it's worth a try.

Quick Harris Update
Posted on July 24, 2008 by Matt Terl
Post-practice chatter has it as a hamstring, and possibly not as bad as my intial impressions. We'll see -- I certainly hope so.

Filed under: Training Camp 2008 | Tagged: Training Camp 2008 | No Comments »

From the "offficial blog" it looks more like a hammy, but who is this Harris dude? I think he meant Thomas. Stupid.

what the chris larry is going on with all these injuries the first week?

Seriously what's with all these non-contact injuries? Maybe there's toxic mold growing in the locker-room.

Most injuries on this team, last year included, seem to be related to hamstrings. Dont you think the medical staff would realize this?

The Truth notes that Malcom Kelly is the "injury prone" WR we drafted, not Devin Thomas. The Truth says "Oh no" and frowns.

I dunno what to read in the cart part. I hope that its probably nothing and he is out for a few days to heal up.

As someone who has a pretty extensive history of hammy pulls, I'd say that if it's very minor (like a week-or-two's worth injury) you could walk off pretty easily. If it's a severe hammy pull (like a month or longer), you can still walk off - but it takes FOREVER (because you can't stretch your leg past a couple degrees). At that point, it's just easier to be taken on a cart.

For what it's worth, some hammy injuries can look crippling, but only be about a month or so recovery time. At this point, I think we all would take a month-long injury for Thomas.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 10:48 AM

Forgot to post my name, that was me.

ahh this cant be good

I play basketball, not football.

Wait, Walt Harris is injured now? I'll take that... :-)

Our post does not say whether the injury is serious because we do not know yet and it would be irresponsible to say that it is before, um, like doctors and stuff examine Thomas. When we have an update, you'll have an update.

Quick Harris Update
Posted on July 24, 2008 by Matt Terl
Post-practice chatter has it as a hamstring, and possibly not as bad as my intial impressions. We'll see -- I certainly hope so.

Filed under: Training Camp 2008 | Tagged: Training Camp 2008 | No Comments »

From the "offficial blog" it looks more like a hammy, but who is this Harris dude? I think he meant Thomas. Stupid.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 10:51 AM

Forgot to post my name, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO!

'Quick Harris Update'

Is Sam Huff blogging for the skins now?

Tough to know with hammies. PSP is right. Let's see what the medical staff sez.

at least it did not happen while he was getting hit by a ball or a blocking pad!!!!

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wow blaming jc for this pull. what a stupid statement! where in the hell is my hammer?

When are people going to stop thinking this is just case after case of bad luck, and start to realize that maybe -- just maybe -- our training/medical staff isn't doing a very good job. This is getting ridiculous. No, I'm sorry -- this isn't GETTING ridiculous, it's been ridiculous for over a year now.

Etrod that's cold...but funny.

The Truth might agree with Ian. The Truth says this is unacceptable and there should be some new hires for the training staff!

Maybe they should just stay inside and play Madden on the big screen and show what they would have done on the field.

Right on jm220...everyone knows that it was George W Bush's fault.

Uhhhhhhh........what planet are you living on? You think Thrash was going to be the third WR????

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 10:44 AM

#1 - 89
#2 - 12
#3 - 82
#4 - 11/19

Thomas was vieing for the top 3. It has been said many times over he is very raw and he has a lot to learn. Look for more out of him in years to come as he learns how to be a WR.......

It's a real shame when you cant take criticism.
Wow, I guess the guy cant see that he needs any improvement.

Posted by: D | July 24, 2008 8:55 AM

Maybe I didn't express this well. Jasno has no problem with criticism of himself or his work. He was always open to it and, in the early days of the blog, he would respond to it sometimes. And no one has brought any criticism in the past year that he hadn't heard before that. He's heard the criticism, he's considered it, but he doesn't agree with it.

His problem with "anger and hate" referred to all the fighting, hate, and hostility posted on the blog. Most of it has nothing to do with what he wrote or even with the Redskins. It has to do with people like Purple Haze or the nut sack guy or the anons who have nothing to do but criticize the other posters and attack "the regulars," each other, the Redskins' management, and whatever inner demons they're feeling at the time.

This isn't "criticism" he's ignoring. It is borderline psychotic. Read over the posts yesterday afternoon and you can see why he stopped reading.

Just a correction, they bring in new medical staff this year because of hamstrings. Hamstrings can also be attributed to diet and not getting enough potassium. So maybe they need to hire dieticians as well. you can stretch all you want but if you are not putting the right things in your body diet wise you can still pull muscles

Sports Guru is a moron

The Truth believes that Redskin's Park needs more hydration to protect Hammys. The Truth will provide Gatorade to the players. The Truth sobs and is inconsolable over so many hammy injuries.

When are people going to stop thinking this is just case after case of bad luck, and start to realize that maybe -- just maybe -- our training/medical staff isn't doing a very good job. This is getting ridiculous. No, I'm sorry -- this isn't GETTING ridiculous, it's been ridiculous for over a year now.

Posted by: Ian | July 24, 2008 10:57 AM

Well the training/medical staff generally take care of injuries after they happen. They normally aren't the cause of it. Now if it's a recurring injury to the same player, or if it's an unacceptable recovery, this could be a problem.

As for the first-time injuries to players (R.Thomas' triceps, Jansen's everything, D.Thomas' hammy, Lloyd's shoulder, ACLs, dislocations, etc.) that seems more of a problem with the players' strength and conditioning.

As a positive outlook...the redskins blogger fixed the name to his post so it no longer says "Harris"

Hit refresh....Zorn sez it's a pull...

Sports guru, if you read the Official skins blog post (which I know, massive grains of salt) it says it was a good pass.

I just don't get the JC bashing, but hey thats what that season is for lets see some results.

New post at least looks promising and Zorn sounds okay about it.

I hate astro turf, redskins park, the native american curse and injuries. I need some "F's" CL.

Still holding to my prediction of 1-15 this season.

The Truth believes that Redskin's Park needs more hydration to protect Hammys. The Truth will provide Gatorade to the players. The Truth sobs and is inconsolable over so many hammy injuries.

Posted by: The Truth | July 24, 2008 11:04 AM

How much are they getting now, and how much more do they need?

So, just checking, if Zorn says "here we go again" that doesn't mean we're trading for Chad Johnson now, does it?

F preseason injuries...

I wonder where are all the whiners now who complained about drafting 2 receivers. JLC I'm talking to you. If this injury is serious at least were in a position where we don't have to scramble to find a replacement.

Posted by: Brian | July 24, 2008 10:49 AM

I knew we'd get a couple of these guys...if Vinny stacked up bodies at DE like he did receivers in Round 2, he wouldn't have to "scramble" and send Miami a 2nd rounder to get Jason Taylor. I'm just sayin'...

The Truth responds to talent evaluator and tells him that he did not post at 11:04 AM. The Truth is a Georgia fan and doesn't endorse or drink Gatorade for obvious reasons. The Truth states that someone was pretending to be him in that post.

cl, agreed on the pre-season injuries.

Relatively good health for the team is what I'm looking for.

For those that haven't read the update yet:

Coach Jim Zorn said is a pulled hamstring. Zorn, speaking immediately after the morning practice, said the team was not yet certain of the severity of the injury, but that he did not believe Thomas, who is getting treatment now, would be out too long.

The Truth says that was NOT me posting at 11:12 AM denying that it was me posting at 11:04 AM.

The Truth responds to talent evaluator and tells him that he did not post at 11:04 AM. The Truth is a Georgia fan and doesn't endorse or drink Gatorade for obvious reasons. The Truth states that someone was pretending to be him in that post.

Posted by: The Truth | July 24, 2008 11:12 AM

The Truth is a pud head who can't back up anything he posts and, when asked for clarification, responds with (1) that wasn't me; (2) I was kidding; (3) go Charlotte Bulldogs/Georgia Bobcats; or (4) you're a bunch of idiots not ready for the truth and I'm never going to blog here again.

"Sports guru, if you read the Official skins blog post (which I know, massive grains of salt) it says it was a good pass. "

That is simply to deflect criticism, because it is ultimately the staff's fault for not trading or cutting Campbell prior to camp.

I blame Jason Campbell.

The Truth says that was NOT me posting at 11:12 AM denying that it was me posting at 11:04 AM.

Posted by: The Truth | July 24, 2008 11:15 AM

This is not The Truth. The Truth does not use the word "me".

How about taking a look at our training staff????? Come on there is a lot of pulled hammies over the past few seasons.

"Sports guru, if you read the Official skins blog post (which I know, massive grains of salt) it says it was a good pass. "

That is simply to deflect criticism, because it is ultimately the staff's fault for not trading or cutting Campbell prior to camp.

I blame Jason Campbell.

See I knew we should not have been having players punch each-other in the hammy for 5 minutes before practice.

I blame Tom Cruise.

If we lose both draft picks do you think Snyder would go after Chad Johnson again! Ahh! Thomas get better!

How about taking a look at our training staff????? Come on there is a lot of pulled hammies over the past few seasons.

Posted by: dancingbear34 | July 24, 2008 11:17 AM

Are we the only team in the NFL that gets pulled hammies, or is this just part of the game?

from the official blog :
Asked the QBs about the lively pads drill this morning, and specifically about Coach Zorn's zeal for it.

Colt Brennan: "We'd done something like that in college, but this was kind of a barrage. I've never had six bags thrown at me at one time."
Was Coach feeling sinister? "Ah, Coach Zorn just always wants to keep it loose and fun. They're soft bags, and we've got these big pads and everything."

Todd Collins: "Pretty physical drill for the quarterbacks, don't you think? The rule was no headshots, but we had a few right up in the facemasks."
Was Coach feeling sinister? "He was. He was holding that pad up like he was going to put it in someone's head. He had this little snicker about him...."

Jason Campbell: "That's a fun drill, you know? I got a chance to play rush end, so I tried to take full advantage of it."
Was Coach feeling sinister? "Oh, he was trying to knock us out. He really wanted to put the rock in you."

wow, 15 mins and over 90 posts. Do the seahawks even have 90 fans this time of year? piece of crap nfc west

This isn't "criticism" he's ignoring.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 24, 2008 11:01 AM

Speak for yourself and only yourself.

See I knew we should not have been having players punch each-other in the hammy for 5 minutes before practice.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 24, 2008 11:19 AM

Then they wouldn't have pre-season injuries. They's have pre-practice injuries.

The Truth is throwing you off the trail by denying its "me" by saying The Truth does not use the word "me" (when The Truth only uses "me" in one phrase: "I love me some me!)"

Love the MMQB comments on who the Redskins should have drafted. Wow....

Trade Jason Campbell for Chad Johnson.

How about taking a look at our training staff????? Come on there is a lot of pulled hammies over the past few seasons.

Posted by: dancingbear34 | July 24, 2008 11:17 AM

Again, training staffs don't prevent injuries - they help players recover from injuries. You want to place blame, look at conditioning coaches or, as Great One pointed out, nutritionists (if they have them).

And "Sports Guru",

Maybe you're a Guru of other sports outside of football...I don't know if JC banged your wife or what, but blaming him for another player pulling a hammy is the most ridiculous thing I believe I've read you say. And that's saying a lot.

While you're at it, why don't we lay the Iraq War at JC's doorstep? My dad's stroke? Maybe he kidnapped that little girl in Florida? He WAS in Tampa last year...

Trade Jason Campbell for a ham sandwich and a bowl of SOUP.

The injuries to Phillip Daniels and the back-up defensive end showed the glaring problem with this year's draft. There's ZERO chance that all three players we drafted in the second round this year make it on the field, so why not draft for need? Now we have a glut of receivers and hardly anyone who can back-up Jason Taylor or Andre Carter.

The Truth didn't post about giving Gatorade to the players and there have been about 3 fake posts with people claiming to be The Truth in the last 20-30 minutes.

The Truth would appreciate it if people stopped posting as The Truth and thanks everyone in advance.

I'm never going to blog here again.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 11:16 AM

Sweet no more people with no names

Actually, the Training Staff has EVERYTHING to do with preventing injuries. They institute the training regimens that the players follow. If they instituted the proper stretching and strength regimens, pulled muscles would be ALOT less common.

That post was not my doing.

Ever heard of Erasmus James, or Demetric Evans? Don't both those guys back up Carter, and Taylor?

Man thats gotta be a helpless feeling for a coach. You have to practice but then you risk injuries like this.

We just cant seem to catch a break

Trade Sports Guru for diarrhea.

The Truth wonders why Greg didn't tell the front office about the two-injuries-in-one-day dilemma BEFORE the draft.

The Truth says it is probably because it is impossible to have seen coming. The Truth gives a sly wink.

Do the Reskins and the Wizards share their training/medical staff?

"The Truth" would stop blogging as The Truth, if The Truth would stop being a gasbag and blog using coherent sentences like everyone else (i.e, act like a normal person).

JC's passes usually hurt my eyes much more than my hamstrings.

I blame the injury on Sports Guru, if he was a real fan who was really concerned about having 17 as the starting QB he would have worked harder to contact vinny c or Danny and let them know that they need to trade him.

That post was not my doing.

Ever heard of Erasmus James, or Demetric Evans? Don't both those guys back up Carter, and Taylor?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | July 24, 2008 11:27 AM

When I read that other comment by Greg, I started a reply. Knew you could not have been thinking that way.

They institute the training regimens that the players follow. If they instituted the proper stretching and strength regimens, pulled muscles would be ALOT less common.

Posted by: Greg | July 24, 2008 11:27 AM

I have never had or seen a training staff institute a stretching and strength regimen. That's always been a job of strength & conditioning coaches. Training staffs take care of injuries, but they aren't primarily involved in preventing them.

Registration would be nice right about now.

Are these guys getting hydrated properly and is the trainer making sure the stretch properly too??

The update says that Jim Zorn doesn't expect Thomas to be out "too long." Kelly has seemed to be the better WR so far in training camp, now he'll get even more reps with the starters. Thomas should be back by the Opener against the Giants, but expect Kelly to take the #3 spot on the WR depth chart, followed by Devin Thomas.

I blame Sports Guru for surviving his abortion.

Registration would be nice right about now.

Posted by: Greg(boston) | July 24, 2008 11:33 AM

Agreed. I realized that wasn't actually you, but decided to respond anyway.

You'll recall that the soft-tissue injuries were an issue that Vinny Cerrato and Daniel Snyder brought up with each head-coaching candidate this winter...and here's a JReid story from last November on the matter:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/07/AR2007110702560.html?nav=emailpage

Are you serious? Erasmus James? He'll be lucky to make it on the field this year. He's practically a cripple. And Demetric Evans fills in at every position on the d-line. So if Cornelius Griffin and Jason Taylor are both off of the field, who do you propose we put in? Dexter Manley?

I blame Tom Cruise.

Posted by: [cc] | July 24, 2008 11:19 AM

Funny. Call it Scientlology legs.

I also blame "guru" for the lack of registration.

The Truth also apologizes to Greg because The Truth thought that Greg posted that dumb comment when, in fact, Greg did not post that dumb comment.

The Truth tips his hat.

you cant prevent all injuries. I used to be a track coach and no matter how much we stretched and tried to prevent injuries some people would still get hurt. ( tyson gay for team USA had to pull out of the 200meters because of a hamstring and trains and prepares everyday for that type of injury) so everyone relax

"The Truth" will not stop blogging as The Truth now that the point was made. "The Truth" actually respects bloggers' identities as was just having a little fun. Carry on Truth.

"So if Cornelius Griffin and Jason Taylor are both off of the field, who do you propose we put in?"

Demetric Evans and/or Chris Wilson and/or Kedrick Golston

The Truth is smug and receives a middle finger

I meant to type "will NOW stop"(not "not"). Just a typo.

hamstrings are a different muscle set-up, most pulls are tears, sometimes the internal tear can't be seen--
treatment increase circulation (heat & cold)only ice first 48 hours

causes imbalance muscle development of the leg (front to back)

from the American Academy of Orthapedic Surgeons;
Strains and Tears
When one muscle group is much stronger than its opposing muscle group, the imbalance can lead to a strain. This frequently happens with the hamstring muscles. The quadriceps muscles are usually much more powerful, so the hamstring may become fatigued faster than the quadriceps. A fatigued muscle cannot relax as easily when its opposing muscle contracts, leading to strains.

Muscle strains are overuse injuries that result when the muscle is stretched without being properly warmed up. It's like pulling a rubber band too long. Eventually, the rubber band will either lose its shape or tear apart. The same thing happens with muscles.

Neither of those guys is the answer for a season long injury (which hopefully will not occur). Admit it, there is very little depth at d-line. Don't lie to yourself

psps23 you are forgetting Lorenzo Alexander who can play 5 spots at the same time.

Sounds like Thomas and Kelly are learning two seperate receiver positions w/Kelly learning the X position. This injury would not seem to affect him being on the field more often.

Which makes sense to me that Kelly is in the #2 receiver position. Thomas if the faster of the two and the least developed of the two and should be groomed to play behind SMoss or come off the bench into that position.

I agree...registration would be nice

Neither of those guys is the answer for a season long injury (which hopefully will not occur). Admit it, there is very little depth at d-line. Don't lie to yourself

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 11:41 AM

Golston was a starter his rookie year. You can't have every backup be a capable starter. For that matter, Devin Thomas/Malcolm Kelly/James Thrash wouldn't be an "answer" to a season long injury (this season) to Moss or ARE either.

When are people going to stop thinking this is just case after case of bad luck, and start to realize that maybe -- just maybe -- our training/medical staff isn't doing a very good job. This is getting ridiculous. No, I'm sorry -- this isn't GETTING ridiculous, it's been ridiculous for over a year now.

Posted by: Ian | July 24, 2008 10:57 AM

Well the training/medical staff generally take care of injuries after they happen. They normally aren't the cause of it. Now if it's a recurring injury to the same player, or if it's an unacceptable recovery, this could be a problem.

As for the first-time injuries to players (R.Thomas' triceps, Jansen's everything, D.Thomas' hammy, Lloyd's shoulder, ACLs, dislocations, etc.) that seems more of a problem with the players' strength and conditioning.

Posted by: psps23 | July 24, 2008 11:05 AM

Semantics. The POINT IS that the injuries have gone beyond bad luck and coincidence, and it has become clear that some members of the Redskins staff -- be it the medical/training staff or the strength and conditioning people or both -- are not doing their jobs properly. I don't care who is to blame, just find them and get rid of them.

when i grow up i want to be

one of the harvesters of the sea

Anon,
I assume we will get 4 backups from this list of guys on the roster at this point.

Alexander, Lorenzo
DT

Askew, Matthias
DT
Boschetti, Ryan
DT

Evans, Demetric
DE

Golston, Kedric
DT

Huntley, Kevin
DE

Jackson, Rob
DE

James, Erasmus
DE

Mapu, J.T.
DT

Wilson, Chris
DE

From the Times:

Washington's top draft pick, wideout Devin Thomas, left practice early with what coach Jim Zorn deemed a pulled hamstring. He said the severity wouldn't be known until after the rookie from Michigan State was evaluated.

Thomas fell after failing to haul in a long pass down the right sideline and immediately began clutching the back of his right leg. He also had some blood on his leg after he got up and rode off the field on a cart. Zorn also said defensive end Chris Wilson strained a calf during the morning session, but didn't think it was serious.

Jason Taylor also had a big ice wrap on his forearm coming off the field, but Zorn said it was just typical camp bumps and bruises.

UPDATE: Wilson has a left calf strain and is out of practice this afteroon. Thomas' injury is being called a right hamstring strain, but we'll get another update this afternoon.

The part about the blood is confusing?? Was it his, was it someone elses's? Where did it come from?

I don't care who is to blame, just find them and get rid of them.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 11:51 AM

Ah, it's great to be from Washington where everything is solved by the two-step process: (1) blame someone; (2) fire them.

What can we do, though, if no one is to blame? The Empire State building is hit by lightning 50 times a year. This should stop! Let's (1) blame someone then (2) fire them. That should solve it.

the blood came from the grassy knoll

What if it was Jason Campbell's fault? Should we blame him and fire him?

Or Coach Z for making them practice that way? Blame and fire mesays!!

>>>It's said that he placed a profile on a famous dating site,""" Tallchat.c om """,seeking a date,getting many adorers.

Here's what we're not going to see this year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHbkz0IMIeA

does the guy who drives the cart count against the salary cap?

The part about the blood is confusing?? Was it his, was it someone elses's? Where did it come from?

Posted by: Greg(boston) | July 24, 2008 11:57 AM

I'll get the other guys from CSI and we'll get right on it.

(Putting shades on)

Who called that play? Blame them/him, then fire them/him!

Nothing like the doom and gloom of Skins' fans.

Don't worry, we're all in this together. It starts with me.

Kelly doesn't look like he runs a 4.67 in these clips. Football speed and track speed are apples and oranges. Just ask Jerry Rice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ZHjgrXArI&feature=related

That's what you get from Jimmy Z's new physical practices.

Semantics. The POINT IS that the injuries have gone beyond bad luck and coincidence, and it has become clear that some members of the Redskins staff -- be it the medical/training staff or the strength and conditioning people or both -- are not doing their jobs properly. I don't care who is to blame, just find them and get rid of them.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 11:51 AM

Fair enough. There does seem to be an issue somewhere that's greater than just luck.

Everyone gets off on the 40 times, but you're not running in full pads WITH a mouthpiece in and a helmet on. Conditioning is what sets the "football" speedsters from the track speedsters. TO doesn't run a 4.3 40, but he's always open deep. Kelly has the chance to be a star. Thomas, good number 2, move the chains guy.

I think this happened b/c the WaPo posted a story today entitled "Redskins' Wideouts Have Gains in Mind"

:)

Not to worry Vin is on the phone now. We're offering the 3rd round picks in'09,'10,'11 for Kevin Curtis

agreed

What about amani toomer? he should be worth at least a 4th next year and a 7th in 2010?

oh wait, we don't have our 4th next year...

...much hair pulling and gnashing of teeth...

Are we taking bets on how long Thomas is out? I say 4 weeks minimum...

Thomas, good number 2, move the chains guy.

Posted by: rich20ssu | July 24, 2008 12:08 PM

Based on today's article, it looks like they're actually grooming Thomas to be the #1 receiver and Kelly as the #2. So it seems to me the emphasis is on Kelly being ready to start this year.

We should have traded JC when he had some value. Now Thomas is the first of his many casualties this year.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | July 24, 2008 10:50 AM

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Blaming Jason Campbell for the injury to Devin Thomas' hamstring?

Classic!

What else can we blame JC for, Guru?

You tweak your hammy because they have not been warmed up properly,strengh and conditioning coach: it your job to see that this does not happen, back in the day did you ever hear of Charley Taylor(HOF) problems with his hammy's or Bobby Mitchell's NO!!! they get pulled because you have not been stretching them, Moss had the same problem last year. if not worked properly before training camp when you try to accelerate then they "pop" how could this happen? let me guess no one is keeping tabs on the rookie's?. Not good not good at all.

I blame Sports Guru for surviving his abortion.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 11:35 AM

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Not all anon comments are inane.

LOL!

Nate in the PDX and I discussed the hammy mystery a few months ago. The issue seems to be happening throughout the NFL, and not just a problem with the 'Skins.

An article from 2006 shows that hammy-hysteria has been around for awhile.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-12-18-hamstring-cover_x.htm

Here you go, Chia.

While you're at it, why don't we lay the Iraq War at JC's doorstep? My dad's stroke? Maybe he kidnapped that little girl in Florida? He WAS in Tampa last year...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 24, 2008 11:24 AM

What is the logic for blaming a QB for WR pulled hamstring. I cant seem to make the connection.

Little late on that Sports Guru thread, but you gotta love that guys irrational exuberance.

Don't ya?

"Instead of new coaching changes, we should look a better training/medical staff. Every year we lose someone that is a very key contributor. If we had a medical and training staff that taught our guys to practice all of the stretching and conditioning requirements, we may have a full season of starters."

What absolute pure conjecture, speculative crap.

The Truth is a pud head who can't back up anything he posts and, when asked for clarification, responds with (1) that wasn't me; (2) I was kidding; (3) go Charlotte Bulldogs/Georgia Bobcats; or (4) you're a bunch of idiots not ready for the truth and I'm never going to blog here again.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 11:16 AM

I agree not all Anon comments are inane as well.....

"What absolute pure conjecture, peculative crap."

how many true number 1's are there any more? 6 or 7? Johnson, TO, Holt, Moss, Steve Smith (when healthy), Harrison or Wayne, Fitgerald...

Next level...

Houshmanzadeh
Marshall
Edwards
Colston
Welker
Driver
Burress
A. Johnson

How much of this is on the players as well. I would imagine they would be doing strength and conditioning on their own in the off seaseon. Not sure what type of workouts prepare you for full contact-full speed drills.

Probably been a whjile since these guys have "opened up" during routes

Agree with Guru. Seriously, when are you all going to realize that JC is horrible QB? He overthrow receivers all the time, putting them at risk of injury. This Thomas incident is just the latest chapter in an bad book.

SC Skins,

USA Today article is great. All of you who think you know the answer may want to take a look at it. The way I read it, no one knows the answer. As usual here on RI: Often wrong, never in doubt.

Just please tell me Bubba Tyer isn't on staff anymore... lol.

I would love to see a stats breakdown of teams that report hammies in pre-season.

Any gas left in that cart?

At least we have some depth. No need to panic. As long as the O-line, JC and Portis are healthy, we're good.

Agree with Guru. Seriously, when are you all going to realize that JC is horrible QB? He overthrow receivers all the time, putting them at risk of injury. This Thomas incident is just the latest chapter in an bad book.

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 12:32 PM

Someone is a few fries short of a happy meal.

No way can this be hung on JC. QBs overthrow recievers, its football.

i dont know how jim zorn will ultimately fare, however his decision to make jason campbell the unequivocal QB-- period--is a GREAT move.
check out the cbssports.com story on it.
gibbs was always screwing with campbells head. zorn will have no part of that. thats a great great move.
oh and people who wanna talk about campbell's 8-12 record as a starter, well gibbs had more to do with those losses than campbell.
really gotta applaud zorn here.

Trade Campbell for Chad Johnson. Just do it.

You know, if this was Futball (Soccer) not football, and Thomas had been carted off with the latest near fatal injury on the pitch, he'd already be back in action.

I was looking forward to seeing him play this year. I hope it's not too serious.

Does anyone realize that Portis led the NFL in carries last season?

If a QB overthrows a WR and the WR gets hurt, whose fault is it? Answer that!

Posted by: rich20ssu | July 24, 2008 12:30 PM

I'd move Edwards and A.Johnson up to the #1 tier of receivers. Those two, particularly A.Johnson, are I think right behind Moss and Steve Smith as the most talented receivers in the league.

Everyone gets off on the 40 times, but you're not running in full pads WITH a mouthpiece in and a helmet on. Conditioning is what sets the "football" speedsters from the track speedsters. TO doesn't run a 4.3 40, but he's always open deep. Kelly has the chance to be a star.
Posted by: rich20ssu | July 24, 2008 12:08 PM

Dude has great hands and can block, too.

If a QB overthrows a WR and the WR gets hurt, whose fault is it? Answer that!

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 12:38 PM

Is this a trick question? The referee's?

Why would you trade Chad Johnson for Campbell if you're the Bengals? You already have Carson Palmer @ QB and then Housh is your only real receiving threat thus allowing teams to double up on him since 85 is gone.

The answer is that its the QB fault. Duh!

sometimes an injury helps a team. like any time campbell gets hurt, we have a chance to win.

Duh!

I'd like to see A. Johnson stay healthy for 2 consecutive years and Edwards do it for more than one year, but they have the talent to be there for sure. They could me and you across from steve smith and he'd still catch 90 balls...

If a QB overthrows a WR and the WR gets hurt, whose fault is it? Answer that!

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 12:38 PM

post hoc, ergo, propter hoc.

Latin for "after it, therefore, because of it"

Its a common mistake I guess. One has nothing to do with the other. Unless there is a video of Campbell biting this man on his hamstring then the connection cannot be made.

sometimes an injury helps a team. like any time campbell gets hurt, we have a chance to win.

yes!

sometimes an injury helps a team. like any time campbell gets hurt, we have a chance to win.

yes!

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 12:43 PM

I think the Anon just might be Todd Collins!

Unless there is a video of Campbell biting this man on his hamstring then the connection cannot be made.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 24, 2008 12:43 PM

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Too funny! Laughing so hard it hurts.

Please...stop?

Tard factor high on RI today Captain!

sometimes an injury helps a team. like any time campbell gets hurt, we have a chance to win.

yes!

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 12:43 PM
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not sure that's the case this year. ol' todd collins may have excelled last year strictly because he knew every play in the 700 page playbook. this year he has no such ace up his sleeve. colt (4)5 most likely needs a lot of work too so we may as well get used to soup for the time being.

It turns out its the equipment guy's fault.

Turns out the football on the play where Thomas got hurt was mistakenly filled gummy bears instead of air.

at least Georgia isn't on the schedule this year if we have to call on Colt.

His problem with "anger and hate" referred to all the fighting, hate, and hostility posted on the blog. Most of it has nothing to do with what he wrote or even with the Redskins. It has to do with people like Purple Haze or the nut sack guy or the anons who have nothing to do but criticize the other posters and attack "the regulars," each other, the Redskins' management, and whatever inner demons they're feeling at the time.

This isn't "criticism" he's ignoring. It is borderline psychotic. Read over the posts yesterday afternoon and you can see why he stopped reading.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 24, 2008 11:01 AM

Excellent Post. You'll get ripped for it, of course, but your'e a prophet in your time. Posts on the net are like road rage. Same psychology. You aren't really hating on a person, just a screen name, just as you aren't' mad at a little old lady, but her 82 Buick that just cut you off. But she gets the hate anyway.

I'm actually a nice guy who finds himself savagely attacking certain screen names or Anons, posts probably written by people I'd enjoy having a beer with. What can I say, something takes over.

Of course it's a great place for true nut jobs, too, the REAL cellar dwellers in their Mama's House have adopted the net, boards, and certainly this one.

As you no doubt know it goes well beyond sports boards. Political boards are a Petri dish of psychoses. Say what you will about the 'net, for all the good it does the worst thing it does is enables Hate.

Reading the comments is an addiction. The worst part is some real insight is mixed in with all the crap. If I was Jasno, I'd NEVER read it. Same thing for the new kid at redskins park blog. They should run him thru a metal detector because he's young and not used to the Hate he's encountered.

people are tough behind the wheel or at a computer. they get to be a person they're physically afraid to be in real life. Words on a computer screen are just that. I just got back from dealing the WSOP and you would be amazed how inhuman (is that a word) people act because they're at a poker table as opposed to almost anywhere else on the planet.

Same things can be said about fans at a Skins game (or any sporting event). People get in certain environment and everything their parents tried (or should have tried) to teach them goes out the window.

mob mentality.

Does anyone think when Jasno goes to the bar to hang out with bloggers that anyone says all that crap to his face? come on now...

I'm tough in person. ...Drunk too.

Who is the tour guide for the RI folks to get together. I know there have been a couple but know that I am back in the are (or at least closer) it would be nice to put some faces to names.

take another shot of courage.

should've drafted another WR!

You know, I NEVER pull hamstrings.

I must be in better shape than these guys.

I went long while walking the dog yesterday and tweaked my hammy.

But don't worry I should be able to make that Dentist appointment this afternoon.

portugese mud slide

Cheyenne, I was meaning to ask, where is it you're temporarily stationed? Are you planning a DC run for any of the games this season?

Does anyone realize that Portis led the NFL in carries last season?

Posted by: rich20ssu | July 24, 2008 12:37 PM

I was aware. Look at his totals during the G2 (Gibbs 2.0) years. Tops........

If a QB overthrows a WR and the WR gets hurt, whose fault is it? Answer that!

Posted by: | July 24, 2008 12:38 PM

Vinny's, clearly. Come on now, at least make the next one challenging.

Ideal draft (all of these picks were possible) :

2nd round #34 - WR Devin Thomas Michigan State
2nd round #48 - TE Fred Davis Southern Cal
2nd round #51 - WR Malcom Kelly Oklahoma
3rd round #96 - WR Andre Caldwell Florida
4th round #124 - TE Derek Fine Kansas
6th round #168 - WR Josh Morgan Virginia Tech
6th roudn #180 - WR Kevin Robinson Utah State
6th round #186 - QB Colt Brennan Hawaii
7th round #242 - WR Mario Urrutia Louisville
7th round #249 - OLB David Vobora Idaho

WIN

I am at Ft. Dix, NJ doing the Combat Skills Training for the next wave of Air Force guys going to Iraq. Its pretty busy so I wont be able to get to any games.

Its nice to be back on the EST zone again though.

also, when trying to find the blame, we have to go back to the owner of the organization since he is making it possible for them to practice and hurt his hammywammy

Fire The Danny?

Actually if Jack Kent Cooke had not have died...Danny would not have bought the team.

is it Cooke's fault?

Fire Goodell. If he started the season at a logical time, then we wouldn't be practicing at training camp in this heat and be subject to dehydration resulting in muscles being compromised.

Fire the person who invented football??

I mean, lets get right to the root of the issue.

enormous BONG RIP!!!

And obviously the water boy needs to go as well, for failing to ensure Thomas' hammy was properly lubricated.

goodell just heard that. he'll be knocking on your door any second.

JLC hates the Skins - it's a known fact.

Anyone else notice all his "updates" are always doom and gloom with only a throw away sentence for anything that is remotely positive?

Every team has injuries and bumps and bruises in training camp. JLC is over-emphasizing this just to stick it to the people here who love the team.

Give us some real updates: position battles, who's standing out, who's under-performing, rookie standouts, behind the scenes chatter, etc.

Come on JLC, try to put the petty stuff behind you and act like a real journalist.

I know this comment will get dismissed by all the regulars who think that JLC actually has a vested interest in them and think that because they have no lives and comment here 24/7 their voice is somehow important, but please take this comment seriously. JLC is a bad reporter who has lost his ability to be objective. The man has talent - he's shown that in glimpses, but it's been severely overshadowed by his personal vendetta against the people who run the team. I'm not asking for a reporter to cover the team and look through maroon and black (ha) colored glasses. Yet acting like every hammy tweak or stiff knee is somehow the end of the world is ridiculous. Do us all a favor JLC and resign this post with dignity.

Jimmy the Greek?

According to that knuckle-head, he should have had an extra muscle that protected him from this sort of thing.

Cheyenne, off the top of my head I can't remember any blog peeps hailing from south Jersey/Trenton/Philly, but there are some peeps in NY/NJ/CT if you ever get loose in a northerly direction. I also get to NY periodically for w--k.

Feel free to ping me at nateinthepdx at gmail if you want to connect to folks out thataway and put names to faces, as you say.

The hammy problem is clearly the government's fault. If they did not stand in the way of free enterprise, medical science would already have invented and marketed an anti-hammy-whammy vaccine that would prevent hamstring injuries.

Vote Republican. A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for more of these nagging injuries. The Redskins will never win with a Democrat in the White House.

--Barno

The Truth wonders if Hater even read the post. The Truth pastes it here so Hater can re-read it. The Truth doesn't see any "doom and gloom" in the following :

"Devin Thomas, the wide receiver who was the Redskins' first overall pick in the April draft, was taken from the field on a cart after suffering what Coach Jim Zorn said is a pulled hamstring. Zorn, speaking immediately after the morning practice, said the team was not yet certain of the severity of the injury, but that he did not believe Thomas, who is getting treatment now, would be out too long.

"There was nothing I could say," Zorn said of the team's training camp injuries. "Here we go again."

Thomas was hurt running down the right sideline for a deep pass from Jason Campbell and fell to the ground as he went for the catch. A 6-2, 218-pounder from Michigan State, Thomas was a second-round pick."

Also, The Truth notes that he is not a regular and doesn't even understand the weird relationships people seem to have to the writer here. The Truth doesn't care either.

Camp Day 5: They Said What?
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WarpathInsiders.com Jul 24, 2008

Read what Jim Zorn, Fred Davis and Santana Moss had to say after the AM Practice Session today.

Redskins Head Coach Jim Zorn On Devin Thomas:

"I guess when he came down off of that long throw he pulled his hamstring. We don't know the extent of it, but he's got a bit of a hamstring pull. After we evaluate it, we can figure out what it means for him as far as getting back out on the field. We'll get it calmed down, get it iced, evaluate it and get the diagnosis. Fortunately it's just a pulled muscle and there's no structural damage, so he'll be back soon."

On running back Ladell Betts:

"I see him playing a lot. I see him complimenting what Clinton [Portis] does. I see us even having the opportunity to use both Clinton and Ladell at times. I look at Ladell and Clinton as good zone runners and excellent pass blockers. They do a really nice job in pass patterns."

On all of the media attention surrounding Jason Taylor:

"It doesn't distract me and I don't think it distracts anyone else either. It's a big thing to have Jason Taylor, a 12-year veteran, come here and become a part of our program. As the initial excitement moves on, we'll all get to work and get going."

On safety LaRon Landry:

"Well, I'm a fortunate man to have LaRon Landry on my side now because he's very versatile. He sort of distorts reads at times because he appears like he's in a position like other DBs, but once he reacts and responds he actually makes up more ground than most other defenders that I've been around. He makes what might be a big play into a batted ball or an interception. He's very skilled."

On veteran receiver Billy McMullen:

"He's good and he's fast. He understands more than one position and that's a real asset. I think the more that he's been in the league the more he understands what it takes to stick.He's competing hard and doing very well."

On rookie receivers Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas:

"We're all impressed with what Malcolm is doing because he's been very mellow. He's not a big voice, but he makes a statement when he's on the field. I think the thing that has really helped both of them is that they've done a really nice job concentrating on one position and their responsibilities and that's really making a difference in how fast they're progressing."

On veteran linebacker London Fletcher:

"What I like about London is that he totally enjoys the game and when he's on the field he is a football player. What I mean by that is he has this knack of turning this grit on, and he just pulls everybody up with him. He is a big man when it comes to his attitude about playing the game, and I think our players really respect him and respond to him."

Redskins Tight End Fred Davis

On if tight end Chris Cooley has given him advice:

"He tells me stuff if he sees me doing something [wrong] that I can make myself better at and try do a block better or run routes, just anything he sees. It definitely helps."

On if he thinks he will be heavily involved with the offense:

"I think there is going to be a lot of passing around to everybody. In this offense, anybody can get the ball."

On if he has had any rookie hazing:

"There hasn't been too much. I was supposed to sing but I didn't sing. They have been okay to me, except if you want to take a shower, they make you wait or if you are on the bus you have to move. Other than that, it is hasn't been too bad."

Redskins Wide Receiver Santana Moss

On what type of impact he hopes to have in the offense:

"As a receiver you hope to have an impact in any offense. With that said, you have a lot of opportunities in this offense. Opportunities come and go so you have to take advantage of them when they come. With the wide open spread [offense] and the receivers we can have on the field at times, it should take all the pressure off me individually. No matter who you are, you are going to have a chance to make a big play."

On Devin Thomas being injured during practice:

"I just saw him fall; I don't really know what happened. I am just praying and hoping that he can bounce back."

On the difference among the offense over the last three seasons:

"In 2006 and 2007 the offense was totally different from 2005. Opportunities changed a lot. In 2005 I was in the slot, I was an X [receiver], I was a Z [receiver]. Once we brought more receivers in and changed the offense up, I stayed in one position."

On whether he thinks he is the Redskins' top receiver:

"I don't go into this thing saying I am the number one man. I feel like that is given to you by your coaching staff and your team. I am out here to do my job and whatever they call me number one, two, three, four, or five, it doesn't make me less than the other guys. I feel like if we go out their and work as a corp, we can all be number one."

On how the team is adapting to the west coast offense:

"I am happy with it. I think that we are making progress. It is going to be one of those things that we are going to get better with. In training camp you have two practices, a morning and an afternoon, so you have time to try something different or go over some of the stuff that you didn't do well in the first practice. I feel that as long as we progress every week, every day we should be able to be better. It is looking good right now. [Coach Zorn] is giving us enough to really take advantage of. He is not giving us the whole thing and saying go out there and know everything."

On Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas:

"Malcolm and Devin are guys that look like they have been here before. They are not guys that are just thrilled to be here. You get some guys that are just happy to make it to this level. These guys have been working hard since day one, since they have been out here and they look like real good talents. I talk to Malcolm a lot and tell him he reminds me of Andre Johnson."

On trying to help the rookie receivers:

"I feel like I don't have too, but I feel like I should. My first year in the league I had Laveranues [Coles] and Wayne Chrebet and those guys were everything for me. Anything I didn't do right or anything I was doing too much of, they made sure they told me about it. That is stuff I do now. We are all helping. You see [Antwaan] Randle El, you see James Thrash. Everyone has to help these young guys because we have seen it and have been through it."

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gotta agree about the position battles and player updates, we would certainly like more of those on RI. JLC has gotten a little petty, but its a blog, not the actual newspaper article, so opinions are welcome, not everyone has to agree with all of them. he sees alot more than he posts, so there's probably alot of truth behind his actual posts.

I know this comment will get dismissed by all the regulars who think that JLC actually has a vested interest in them and think that because they have no lives and comment here 24/7 their voice is somehow important, but please take this comment seriously. JLC is a bad reporter who has lost his ability to be objective. The man has talent - he's shown that in glimpses, but it's been severely overshadowed by his personal vendetta against the people who run the team. I'm not asking for a reporter to cover the team and look through maroon and black (ha) colored glasses. Yet acting like every hammy tweak or stiff knee is somehow the end of the world is ridiculous. Do us all a favor JLC and resign this post with dignity.

Posted by: Hater | July 24, 2008 1:26 PM

Go f yourself hater you d-bag
while i agree that JLC does suck alot don't go and talk trash about the posters

most of them are not flaming trolls like yo azz

I am from Suitland, MD and still have family in the area. I try to get back there at least every other weekend to go see them.

Not much in Jersey...Atlantic City I guess.

But since I usually lose a dollar in a coke machine, I dont even try to gamble

The Truth posted the previous post if anyone was unaware.

Devin Thomas hurt his hamstring and was taken off the field on a cart.

Yeah, Hater, that's some serious biased reporting going on. Damn you JlaC for telling us that, you biased reporter. The nerve of you to tell us that the Redskins first pick in the draft got hurt. You must really hate this football team.

Let Mr. Glass Half Empty say something positive.

HATE any injury. That said, regarding Devin Thomas:

Could NOT have happened at a better position for the 'skins. In case no one noticed, thw redskins are lousy with receivers, as opposed to the recent past, when they just had lousy receivers.

Linebacker? CB? RB? Disaster. But the team has WRs to spare.

4th, thanks for posting those, not being able to see them here at work because of the filter, they're a great read, and some pretty good insight as well.

Boy, you'd think (sarcasm on) the third-best owner in all of football (sarcasm off) would spring for somebody to lead the lads in hammy stretching. If Coach Joe were still here, he'd say we have the finest hamstrings in all of football, and all the hamstrings will have to pull together to get the job done.

Go f yourself hater you d-bag
while i agree that JLC does suck alot don't go and talk trash about the posters

most of them are not flaming trolls like yo azz

Posted by: jonthefisherman | July 24, 2008 1:30 PM

Yeah I was a little harsh, but it seems anyone who disagrees with JLC or doesn't act like the guy is brilliant - gets dismissed right off the bat.

I don't come here for the regular banter, I'm just disappointed with JLC's coverage.

Nice use of "azz" btw.

Devin Thomas hurt his hamstring and was taken off the field on a cart.

Yeah, Hater, that's some serious biased reporting going on. Damn you JlaC for telling us that, you biased reporter. The nerve of you to tell us that the Redskins first pick in the draft got hurt. You must really hate this football team.

Posted by: Sarcasm | July 24, 2008 1:34 PM

Ha, good point. My rant doesn't apply to this update per se, but the majority of JLC's updates are negative and lack any real substance or good journalistic qualities.

I'm actually a nice guy who finds himself savagely attacking certain screen names or Anons, posts probably written by people I'd enjoy having a beer with. What can I say, something takes over.
Posted by: Corkczar | July 24, 2008 12:53 PM

Some people cling to their guns and religion, others blog.
But corky, you have a special reason for the bitterness -- every post is the one right after everyone else has moved to the next update!

Um, Truth, sorry, dude, but you're a 'regular' in this blog conversation by any definition of that word.

Your persona is well established up here, largely due to your referring-to-yourself-in-the-third-person shtick, and your proclivity for repping UGA to death, and such as. You've even been repeatedly 'spoofed.' So you are a regular, sir.

Deal with it.

I am back what did I miss?

Didn't they have a "Hamstring Seminar" last fall?
Perhaps they need a rookie/freeagent version?

Hater -

"The man has talent - he's shown that in glimpses, but it's been severely overshadowed by his personal vendetta against the people who run the team. "

so JLC is the new LaVar

The Truth is pretty sure The Truth is not a regular and The Truth would appreciate it if that is understood. The Truth thanks everyone in advance.

The Truth mulls over Emeka Okafor's fate and wonders if the Charlotte Bobcats are going to sign-and-trade him.

The Truth likes Charlie Villaneuva and Jeff Green for Okafor!

I dont know who is to blame with these "hamsting pulls" but I will make sure the senate gets in the middle of things here. Also if someone was videotaping the incedent then I have some more evidence I can hold against the pesky New England Patriots.

Truth may not like it but he is one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us. one of us.

The F Guy knows that "The Truth" is a regular DB, if nothing else.

Oh, by the way, F the Bobcats.

I am back what did I miss?
Posted by: Alex35332 | July 24, 2008 1:45 PM

That was a looong lunch... let's get the calculator out.
10 minute walk to the Dauphine's office,
20 minutes to the Spitzer Suite at the Watergate

What... their waldorf salad is to die for!

Chris LaRRy is sorry The truth isn't regular, maybe more bran or fruit juice could help?

Vinny C said on Redskins Nation that Devin Thomas should be out 2 weks

The Truth should be signed by the Redskins and played as WR.

Chris Larry whistles in disgust with self...he meant prune juice!

Am I a regular? (as if I don't know the answer).

By the way on the northeast bit, I have immediate and extended family in the NJ/upstate NY area. Gonna be visiting my grandmother in S. NJ, within an hour of Atlantic city.

I really say they need a different conditioning program due to the rash of injuries in the past couple of days. The ACL should have never happened to Daniels. This one is not as bad because of the unpredictability of hamstring injuries, but still. You gotta make sure that the players' hammies are both extremely strong and warmed up by the time they get to camp.

Ouch. Worst part of the injury time, whether it's 2 weeks or 2 months, is the practice time he's losing, which is always critical for any WR on a new team, and even more so when going from College to NFL speeds.

IF you wind up with Terry Glenn because of this, I will really be PO'd.

If you've posted more than thrice your a regular....

On a side note, the only person posting here who is qualified to judge Jasno on his journalistic efforts is TheCindy. She doesn't appear to be complaining about Jasno and his work, so all these other ill-informed commentaries have little or no merit.

Do you morons also appear at the cockpit in mid-flight to tell the pilot he doesn't fly worth a damn? Get back to your stations, Fry Boys.

F the naysayers.

Chris Larry whis