Hey, where is everybody?

No one beeped

BONG!

Sounds like Jason Taylor might be used as an LB from time to time and Andre Carter did play LB before. They may have more depth at LB than is apparent. A lot depends of Rocky's recovery.

That's my favorite so far. Good thinkin' Redskirt ;)

Posted by: Dik | July 22, 2008 2:48 PM

Tango and Crash is hot. I will get drunk and get nate the shirt of it tonight, or something

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 22, 2008 2:49 PM

Ehhxcellent.

There's no clever definition, though, just a rough "Jason Taylor and Andre Carter" written beneath it because the aforementioned pop-up kept making me hit the "enter" key after every. single. keystroke.

Feel free cool it up, anyone whose browser doesn't SJK with them on the wiki.

special teams

You got to be kidding me!! This is the best you could come up with.

I played strong side in high school. I'm ready if they need me.

bring back lavar!!

Maybe someone would trade a youngish, serviceable linebacker for one of the plethora of new Wide Receivers?

Teams will decide about 5 games for us. [high pitched giggle/cackle]

Why does every non-move the Skins make "stun" somebody, whether they are inside the organization or a rival exec? I can't believe all of these people are "stunned" and/or have their jaws on the floor. Does Jasno have to sensationalize everything?

As usual, I'm suffering from "Ebeepbeepulo Praecox"

Things that are making me lose by f-ing mind.

1. References to Fred Davis oversleeping. Stop it already.

IT COULD MOTIVATE HIM. HE HAS A REP AS LAZY

2. Posters acting like they are great GMs. If you're so damn great, go get a job in the front office.

SOME OF US CAN'T PLAY RACQUETBALL WORTH A DAMN

3. James Thrash as a punt returner. Forget it unless all punt returns are basically in a straight line.

AGREE.

4. Brett Favre as a Redskin. Until last year, everybody thought he was done. Maybe last year was like the last bit of strength shown by a dying man.

NOW WHO THINKS HE'S A GM?

5. Trying to figure out who is going to stick after two days of camp. Enough said.

FOOTBALL IS A SPORT. GUESSING LIKE THIS IS FUN. SHUT UP.

6. JLC's relationship with the Skins' front office. He may work for the Post, but his relatioship with the front office definitely impacts his ability to do his job. He needs to make peace.
There's more, but that's enough for today.

NOW YOU'RE ACTING LIKE A TEAM OWNER NOT JUST A GM.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | July 22, 2008 1:53 PM

GOOD POST. MAY I HAVE ANOTHER, SIR? SERIOUSLY, IT'S WHAT THIS DEALIO IS FOR.

Posted by: Corkczar | July 22, 2008 2:58 PM

Danny "Clarence" Verdun-Wheeler?

i agree with the comment above... why don't we dangle some of these lower WR's like thrash, possibly even ARE, for a suitable LB.

jm220, I'm saying that special teams is what makes the difference btwn the top and bottom of the NFC East. Hence, my pre-draft rant about punter.

Also, on where to find special teamers ... the Arena League either just ended or is about to end for the season ... those guys are all special teams-ready ... and they should be in good shape ...

This is info/opinions I could not get from ESPN and their crappy, Dallas-slanted Hashmarks blog.

No sarcasm, btw.

Thanks JLC

Why does every non-move the Skins make "stun" somebody, whether they are inside the organization or a rival exec? I can't believe all of these people are "stunned" and/or have their jaws on the floor.

Posted by: Carl Williams | July 22, 2008 3:01 PM

Sort of like the small town newspaper obits reporting about how people were SHOCKED by the SUDDEN death ... of the 97-year old local legend. [Although, I guess all deaths are sudden at the very, very, very end.]

The Truth also says that should Kelly, Thomas, and Davis perform well, The Redskins would be very wise to take advantage of the trade value in ARE and/or Moss next off-season. The Truth says they are both getting older and less productive.

Posted by: The Truth | July 22, 2008 1:59 PM

How does the truth know that ALL 2nd rounders will pann out?? History shows that at the most, 2 will pann out and Devin Thomas may be that odd man that fails to show promise. Fred Davis is running a close 2nd....

Posted by: 4th | July 22, 2008 3:11 PM

dcsween you just don't bring someone in for special teams. They have more than enough players capable of playing on special teams. To me this is a not story and a reach.

I'd expect a pretty darn good LB for ARE.
(or I'd have to be sold that one of the young WR could really step up, which I'm not yet)

What the Skins really need is topflight offensive and defensive coordinators, and a veteran QB who has great experience and success in the offensive coordinator's system.

Oh wait, we fired Gregg Williams and Al Saunders, and demoted Todd Collins. Thanks Snyder/Cerrato. At least we have a bunch of rookie gigantic WRs though.

As requested by TE: Things that make me smile:

1) Heyer
2) The Playoffs
3) Dan Snyder losing money
4) Ballers who are articulate and have thier head screwed on straight
5) Hearing Hail to the Redskins over and over
6) Hearing my girlfriend say "please sir, may I have another."

6) Hearing my girlfriend say "please sir, may I have another."

Posted by: Prodigal Son | July 22, 2008 3:15 PM

lol

Danny Verdun-Wheeler is a beast

Where is all of this JT55 may be playing at LB Mumbo Jumbo coming from?

He ain't playing LB at all. Period. They were saying all of those things to satisfy the league so he could wear #55. JLaC should know this by now since the redskins lie to him all the time.........

Did you not sleep enough Jm220....he is saying that depth is already suspect at LB AND you cant risk the starters on Teams as you normally might....thus you need bodies there to both back up/spot start AND take the teams burdon off your very key starters...

Dude have steak, jaysis.

2. Posters acting like they are great GMs. If you're so damn great, go get a job in the front office.

SOME OF US CAN'T PLAY RACQUETBALL WORTH A DAMN

Lol nice cork

Hey CL.

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/photo/970730/-
Man slow day at work. Picture is done.

hey back JM220

Cork: As a former raquetballer, I was also LOL. All in good fun.

special teams shoo-ins: K.Campbell, Blades, Cartwright, Thrash, Mix, and Sellers

guys who'll probably be there: Doughty, Kareem Moore, Chris Wilson, Lorenzo Alexander, Stuart Schweigert

That's 12 guys named that could easily be there, and along with other backups that I can't think of right now, I think we've got a pretty solid base. Not really worried about special teams right now.

uh, trade?... ur an A$$. lol.

Nice Work! Alex35332

Beauty, Alex!

You are right on point psps23. That's why I don't understand JLC post about special teams. I like please man that is nothing for us to be concern about.

I guess I'm an idiot, that was 11 guys, not 12. Still, point remains the same.

Remember Psps, the Eagles did not worry about Special teams, and in there first game lost due to 2(?) fumbles by their punt returner

The Truth quotes : "How does the truth know that ALL 2nd rounders will pann out?? History shows that at the most, 2 will pann out and Devin Thomas may be that odd man that fails to show promise. Fred Davis is running a close 2nd...."

The Truth responds : "The Truth does not know and did not claim to know. The Truth was saying IF the whole time. The Truth wins again. The Truth will not apologize for asking a hypothetical question!"

Have to say this here, even though I haven't even read this blog post. After yesterday's whining about Vinnie "lying" to the local media about Tayler, and today's Wise article focusing on Tayler becoming an "ambassador" that can turn around an ailing franchise, I'm completely turned off by the Post right now. Cut the whinning, and cut the ridiculousness - Taylor is a 33 year old player. If he plays great, fantastic. If not, so be it. The franchise is hardly "ailing" - it's the number one money maker in pro sports. And the only thing that the fans ultimately care about is whether the team wins or looses, not whether a new addition has a sense of humor or a nice smile. Geez...talk about a letdown right at the start of camp!

If we have any new nicknames for any other new groups of players let me know and I will be happy to draft something up. What are we calling the new WR's? I like the Teen Team myself, because they wear 11,12

Sleepy & The Tall Boys

I've been pretty high on Blades since last season. I think he'll do a good job if needed, but Jasno's right, we should probably pick up a vet at outside LB....

Careful congressmen, you should not be admitting you are getting high off anything, especially by its street name "blades", and especially not in print or on camera.

jm, I'm with cL on this... the beat reporter is raising the flag that, at the moment, we appear to be shorthanded as far as LBs, and veteran LBs in particular. And that LB looks like the "shallowest" group on the team, now that Taylor has bolstered the D line.

One of the repercussions of being shorthanded on LBs is it looks like not such a good idea to use starting LBs on special teams, even when they're the best men for the job.

That's how I read it, anyway, using my special Pollyanna decoder ring...

Alex35332 - True. I didn't say that we shouldn't worry about special teams, I said that I'm not worried about our special teams - meaning I'm not worried about our current situation because we've already got most of the pieces in place.

Rosie O'Canfora is made of poop!

No more hypotheticals should be answered when coming from the truth. To much of a giver and not a taker.

Also, 4th notes the truth did not say IF, but he said 'SHOULD'. So, the truth is a fibber. The truth has been called out and asked not to respond to 4th unless the truth is willing to not talk one sided and speak on both sides of the topic.........

Portis is back on the field for the afternoon practice. He isn't doing a lot, though.

I heart cyn

3. James Thrash as a punt returner. Forget it unless all punt returns are basically in a straight line.

Actually, I'd prefer this to ARE's normal six-second cha cha for a gain of two yards.

How many players who have lacked size have gone on to have great careers in the NFL? Tired of this type of statement. Blades is a player and will be fine. LBF has not missed many (if any) games and has not let "lack of size" keep him from having a great career.

Why are people blaming the return specialist when the cover men aren't being blocked...??

Under JG_1.0 Special teams were feared. Now, not so much... I feel as long as it's consistent, you can work with it...

The Truth wonders if someone has to be blind to not understand that "should" was just another word for "if" in that context?

The Truth was just asking a question, playing devil's advocate, starting conversation. The Truth doesn't think all three 2nd round picks will be starting material. The Truth wouldn't be prudent if he did!

The Truth wins yet AGAIN! HTTT!

Remember Psps, the Eagles did not worry about Special teams, and in there first game lost due to 2(?) fumbles by their punt returner

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 22, 2008 3:27 PM

Linebackers don't return punts. So what's your point?

Maybe the 'Skins can get Chris Larry to play some LB this year.

Curzon, long time, no post. Good to see you up here again.

I recall that one of the defensive backs (can I still use that term?) drafted by the Skins also has some significant punt return numbers. Maybe someone to spell, if not replace, ARE.

I am a fan of Thrash, however, if our young "pass catchers" cannot beat him out for a spot...Also, we drafted two rookies who a capable of returning punts.

Portis not doing much? That is a stunning update Cindy. This is training camp that is all he knows.

Actually, I'd prefer this to ARE's normal six-second cha cha for a gain of two yards.

Posted by: freakzilla | July 22, 2008 3:47 PM

Maybe JT55 can give him lessons so he's better at it.

Colt Brennan speaks (and by speaks, I mean writes) ... http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=36944

Rosie O'Canfora is made of poop!

Posted by: chRis lArry | July 22, 2008 3:42 PM

Couldn't agree more. This is the smartest things CL has ever said!

True. Allow me to elaborate. We aren't sure yet if he'll participating in the full-contact drills.

Portis not doing much? That is a stunning update Cindy. This is training camp that is all he knows.

Posted by: skinsfanWI | July 22, 2008 3:54 PM

Sounds like someone is itching for a visit from Bud Foxx.

The truth does not win. 4th ask what did the truth really win? 4th asked the truth what makes him think that all 2nd rounders will succed and the truth gave non answer and claimed victory? Where is the victory?

The truth finally answers 4th's question after being poked with a blog stick and agains claims victory? When actuality, 4th is the victor as 4th got the truth to answer 4th's original question.

What if we trade CP for a linebacker, oh we can't do that he sleeps between Vinnie and Danny

Hey Truth -

just wondering, what do you think of Danny Verdun-Wheeler?

I'm awarding bonus points to The Truth in his sparring match with 4th (who I have the utmost respect for) so The Truth can claim that he really did, indeed, win something.

What if we trade CP for a linebacker, oh we can't do that he sleeps between Vinnie and Danny

Posted by: skinsfanWI | July 22, 2008 4:00 PM

I'm jealous.

The Truth does not think all the 2nd round picks will succeed, nor did he ever say they would. The Truth asked a hypothetical question about it. The Truth will repost his question :

"The Truth also says that should Kelly, Thomas, and Davis perform well, The Redskins would be very wise to take advantage of the trade value in ARE and/or Moss next off-season. The Truth says they are both getting older and less productive."

Does The Truth need to teach 4th how the English language works?

If we want to trade for a LB I say that there is 1 logical person to do so with and that is... Vinny

his value has never been higher after this JT move, so lets ship him to the Ravens for Ray Lewis or someone.

Dude - lithium... liiiiithiiiium.

Does The Truth need to teach 4th how the English language works?

Posted by: The Truth | July 22, 2008 4:09 PM

Are you having a laugh? Thats like having Ray Charles teach baseball.

The Truth is a fan of Verdun-Wheeler and always has been. With that said, The Truth admits that Verdun-Wheeler is really not much of an NFL LB.

The Truth will note, however, that he didn't expect Odell Thurman to be a very good NFL player, but Odel was pretty solid, which was proven by The Bengals giving him multiple chances.

The Truth says that the majority of defensive players who came through UGA recently had speed and pretty good overall athleticism, but The Truth has had trouble gauging who will be a good NFL player and who won't.

The Truth wishes him the best and hopes he's a Pro-Bowler one day!

The following players do not appear to be participating in practice:
Clinton Portis
Rocky McIntosh
Carlos Rogers
Erasmus James
Kareem Moore
And Fletcher, of course, is excused to be with his wife.

Reality check. The Skins do have depth issues in places, as does every other NFL team.

Reality check. The Skins roster is one of the best in football.

Reality check. The areas where the Skins are at risk are in key areas, namely: coach, QB, injuries in certain places.

By unit, when healthy
RB's are above avg for the league
WRs -- avg
QB -- avg
OL -- above avg
DL -- above avg
LB -- above avg
DB -- above avg

This team has character players and plenty of talent.

The Truth would also like to push the Bobcats to do a sign-and-trade with Omeka "Overrated" Okafor for Jeff Green and Charlie Villanueva!

The Truth says "The Time is Now!!"

Ahhhh--Nice to be back in season and on the blog! I've renewed my Sunday Ticket from DirecTV and looking forward to a nutter year of 'Skins!

Skins top Ultimate Street Fighter ...

http://homermcfanboy.blogspot.com/2008/07/redskins-ultimate-fighter.html

QB - slightly below average
DB - average
OL - average

Fix'd.

Vinnie for Ray that would be a good trade but we still would have a bold face liar that the RI would have to contend with.

I'm with freakzilla on the punt return thing. I believe Thrash learned his technique from one of the masters of kick returning, that plucky little fellow who used to wear #30.

Maybe all those years watching Brian Mitchell go straight upfield and get ten yards every single time, if not more, screwed up my expectations. But I have a weakness for punt returns that actually gain the team yardage. ARE's eye-poppin' lateral movement does nothing for me, because it does so little for the team.

You know what's awesome about technology?

Right now, I'm "dropping the kids off at the pool" while reading the insider via my laptop and wireless connection.

How sweet it is.

NCICURN! Welcome back! You've been sorely missed this off-season ... many medical matters arising requiring explanation.

On an unrelated topic (pending a Skins info update), I watched "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story" ... and I give it 2.5 out of 5 stars. His Dylan phase was tremendous, but otherwise only worth occasional chuckles.

From the Sportsbog...Cooley on training camp:

The one cool thing about the first month of camp is living in a dorm room. I love it when I get to leave my 2.8 million dollar house and live in a 400 square foot box, trade in the Mercedes for the bus, and curl up in my twin bed. The TV's are great too, who isn't happy when they pick up 10 total channels on a 24 inch box? Yea, I guess now people can say what a ungrateful bastard I am and how much anyone would give to play pro football, but please, whether it's a high school or NFL training camp, it's still gonna be as fun as a [bleep bleep].

I agree with Nate and I guess Freakzilla. Give me a bulldozer style returner over the nancy-dancy afc style return game any day.

4th does not understand the English language as well as the truth, possibly. That's why the truth can act the way he does.

4th is a go getter and gets things done. The truth is not so he talks weird and plays 'gotcha' to claim victory.

...(deleted sentence).....

4th also notes the truth dosen't have as much common sense as 4th. If he did he would engage in civil back and forth conversation without claimng victory so early you would think the truth is actually GWB 43rd ('Mission Accomplished')........

4th also notes that while the truth may be better at english, well, that's about it.

OWNED

Do I have a chance to make the team this year??

Well, no sooner do I type those words than Jasno txts me to say that Portis went onto the field -- and promptly got lit up by H.B. Blades. Clean hit. He's fine. No harm, no foul. Top is refreshed with that info.

I dunno, sween, I think 'Walk' merits a second viewing. Using your scale, I'd give it a 3.5 out of 5. The music is awesome, and John C. Reilly is awesome, and I laughed out loud a lot. Not bad, not bad at all.

Shouldn't you be off playing for the CFL or AF2 Rod?

"Dewey, get Pa, I been cut in half real bad!"

Holy smokes, this joint is hoppin'! So happy the fubball is back!

Cindy's here!

NCICURN's here!

Gardner, Rod's here!

HAIL!

NCICURN--

Nice to see you back! It's been a long time. I've had so many medical questions about symptoms real and imagined and you always had a good insight. Also, you were helpful with football things.

There you go Blades LB position solved and a little harder next time and CP can relax for a few weeks

Right now, I'm "dropping the kids off at the pool" while reading the insider via my laptop and wireless connection.

How sweet it is.

Posted by: | July 22, 2008 4:19 PM

Why don't you drop your laptop in the pool and get to know your kids a little better? Okay, I know the answer. I have two of my own. You've earned some quiet, daddy time. You've probably earned more than you get.

Wow, you guys are cool! Bet none of you knew that the CFL and the AF2 are MUCH more competitive than your crappy "NFL". LOL

seriously

The Redskins are crap now without me. Redskins would MAYBE go .500 in the AF2 where the REAL MEN PLAY!

HAIL TO THE GARDNER!!

Welcome back, NCICURN. Where were you when I smashed my thumb in a car door??? I visited the Post nurse. She told me I was an idiot.

I visited the Post nurse. She told me I was an idiot.

Posted by: Cindy | July 22, 2008 4:38 PM

That doesn't sound right to me. Let's report her to the ombudsman.

Right now, I'm "dropping the kids off at the pool" while reading the insider via my laptop and wireless connection.

How sweet it is.

Posted by: | July 22, 2008 4:19 PM

Why don't you drop your laptop in the pool and get to know your kids a little better? Okay, I know the answer. I have two of my own. You've earned some quiet, daddy time. You've probably earned more than you get.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 22, 2008 4:35 PM
**************************************

Um, dude, "dropping the kids off at the pool" is slang for taking a poo.

Flashback: Remember when Rod Gardner came a DC nightclub and tossed the keys to his SUV to a valet....who turned out to not be a valet?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37606-2004Dec30.html

Um, dude, "dropping the kids off at the pool" is slang for taking a poo.

Posted by: Slang-ville | July 22, 2008 4:41 PM

God. B'ben told me I am an f'ing idiot. I conceded the point, and now here's further proof.

Is there any more slang I should know so that I won't embarrass myself again? Is there a website where I can catch up with 2008? I'm about on 1993 right now.

Wait I know what to say:

The 4:35 post was not me. Someone's stealing my handle.

--Talent Evaluator in the PMS

I visited the Post nurse. She told me I was an idiot.

Posted by: Cindy | July 22, 2008 4:38 PM

I recommend getting a second opinion. I recall a poster from an earlier thread whose opinion would be that you are a "word typer" too.

1) It was Derrick Gardner for the last time. Derrick is a guy that drives a car just like mine, lived at FedEx Field at the time, and also played for the Washington Redskins as a WR drafted out of Clemson at the same time as me.

2) I'm still a baller and you all suck.

I recall a poster from an earlier thread whose opinion would be that you are a "word typer" too.

Posted by: dcsween | July 22, 2008 4:47 PM

I think he said that Jasno was the "word typer" and that Cindy was the "spell checker." But "idiot" from a nurse? That's adding insult to injury.

I believe I was called a "spell checker." And, a coupla days ago, a "lemonade maker."
BTW, nobody's heard from the nurse since she said that, so consider yourselves warned.

BTW, nobody's heard from the nurse since she said that, so consider yourselves warned.

Posted by: Cindy | July 22, 2008 4:49 PM

Kind of like how no one's heard from Ricky Bobby since he moved in with Lisa. Strange.

post meridiem nads

Giving the stadium address as your home address = brilliant.

Picturing Henry Gibson and the Illinois Nazis rolling up to 1060 West Addison (Wrigley Field) in 'Blues Brothers'... good times.

Why does every non-move the Skins make "stun" somebody, whether they are inside the organization or a rival exec? I can't believe all of these people are "stunned" and/or have their jaws on the floor. Does Jasno have to sensationalize everything?

Posted by: Carl Williams | July 22, 2008 3:01 PM

Funny, I was going to post almost the exact same comment. It's really too bad we are stuck with Jason La Canfora for yet another year, as he struck out in his attempts to get a national gig. Oh well...

Dang it, I hate having to argue with an anon at 4:16. Our o-line is above avg, our DBs are a very good unit ... our QB is might be slightly below avg ... but near the middle

Nate, always pleased to see a Blues Bros reference

LMAO at Rod G. I doubt he would make it in the CFL at this point even. Maybe in AF2.

Anyone else a little scared when you hear that Favre is being shopped around and one NFC team is talking?

From the Peter King mailbag on SI.com:

BEAUTIFUL THOUGHT. From JJ, of Louisville: "It will be good to see a Redskins jersey with "Taylor" on it running around and making plays again.''

Wow. Touching sentiment. That's nice.

Anyone else a little scared when you hear that Favre is being shopped around and one NFC team is talking?

Posted by: svxcountry | July 22, 2008 5:37 PM

Not going to be Romo, Eli, or McNabb, so no worries here. [Also, remaining cap space officially spent and plashed by signing Jason Taylor, so yet another reason for no worries.]

A little housekeeping...the team placed Phillip Daniels and Alex Buzbee on injured reserve and re-signed defensive end J.T. Mapu.

Cynny- Did you see this story earlier? 34 YEARS later, and somebody just now realized one of the scores on the Steelers SB IX ring is wrong?!

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08204/898541-66.stm

it smells like dead nads in here

6:15
you're obsessed with nads.

Sleepy is awake!

* Many people complained about drafting Fred Davis, myself included, but he looked like a veteran today in his one on one drills. His best work was vs. Marcus Washington, who jammed Davis at the line, and continued to hold Davis until Fred broke his route to the other side of the field and caught the pass with ease.

http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/07/22/day-3-at-redskins-training-camp/

Lisa makes a mean casserole but she won't let me blog anymore.

I like the Taylor trade, A LOT. I know it only leaves us with possibly 4 picks next year, but we were desperate and picked up a pro bowler essentially for a 2nd.

Still hate Snyder with a passion, but if he keeps Czabe (an uncensored Czabe) I'll move him down to number 2 on my HATE list.

9-7.

it smells like dead nads in here

Posted by: | July 22, 2008 6:15 PM

Can you describe the smell a little better? You seem to be the only one who's familiar with it. Just sayin'.

6:18,

obsessed nads.

6:27,

http://re3.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/m5/3139890639

imagine what that would smell like.

nasty nads.

I'm sorry to be so out of the loop, but is there somewhere people have discussed how the Redskins closed Redskins Park to the Washington Post (Jason Reid's thing, in particular)? I've just never heard of anything like it before. It's kind of shocking. Is this only for training camp, or is this how it will be from now on? Someone set me straight.

DCUnited2, Cindy the editor can give the details, but I think what's been specifically prohibited is broadcasting any video content from the Park -- I think that's the sole province of the Redskins' official broadcast partners or something like that. And I think it applies to everybody who's not a partner, not just the Post. Though I could be wrong about that.

The Post's beat reporters are both there at the Park covering training camp, in the media room, all that stuff, as far as I know...

I said it before and I'll say it again. Lavar. league minny and a motorcycle helmet. It's a steal. and why aren't we going after Spikes if they're look for vets. He played with london for years. Seems like a no brainer to me. Not to mention the NFC east loves picking up everyone else's throw aways.

Ben, Lot of teams need LBs, but none of they are going after Spikes. Guy had a lot of injuries and has nothing left. Remember, he was an Auburn teammate of Stephen Davis.

If Danny and Lavar did not hate each ohter that would be a maybe but they do. I don't see him in B&G again.

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