John Riggins vs. Art Monk
Isn't this like choosing between your mom and your dad at a custody hearing? It's near heresy to pick one over the other. In fact, it would be easier to choose between prime rib and lasagna for one's last meal. But that's another segment all together. So at this point, if you are true Redskins fan, you can (sorry for the cliché) throw all the statistics and pro bowls and charity events out the window and get down to brass tacks. Riggins has one Super Bowl ring, Monk three. Riggins has a Super Bowl MVP, Monk does not. Riggins is in the Hall of Fame. Monk is not. On the biggest stage of all, the playoffs, Riggins ran for more than 100 yards in six consecutive games, including a Super Bowl-record (at the time 166 yards) in Super Bowl 17. The Redskins were 6-0 in those games. Monk had four 100-yard receiving performances in the playoffs, but the Redskins were 1-3 in those games. In our final analysis, Riggins was the ultimate Alpha dog. He carried his teams upon shoulders of granite on the biggest stage when the stakes were the highest. He led, and the team followed him to the mountaintop. Monk was steady and consistent in his greatness, but did not possess the leadership or power of personality of Riggins. So Riggins takes the tape by a step at the finish line. Sorry Art. We still think you belong in the Hall of Fame.
By Dan Hargett |
August 17, 2006; 1:19 AM ET
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Posted by: Aron Buss | August 17, 2006 09:03 AM
I love ya Mann, but 10 Speed will win it all!
Posted by: Charlie | August 17, 2006 02:11 PM
I voted for Monk. But if Riggo had played for Turner's teams, Norv would still be here and THE GREAT ONE would still be doing NASCAR.
Posted by: Ashley Hardwick | August 18, 2006 01:14 PM
Is the mom/dad custody analogy accurate? Sure. And I agree with the points on Riggo being a great player. But I have to give my vote to Art Monk on this one.
A lot of people want to look at some of his numbers in the big games and say he wasn't an important part of the Redskins' success in the 80's and 90's. Monk did a lot of things on the field where there are no official stats, like blocking, taking the double team to allow Clark and Sanders to be in man coverage.
It's funny that some things, like his selflessness attitude, on and off the field, have played against him in HOF selection and even on this fan poll. If Monk had demanded the ball and had been more of a "me-first" player like the T.O.'s and Randy Moss' of today, he would already be in the Hall and wouldn't be considered an also-ran to his contemporaries like Jerry Rice and Steve Largent.
Posted by: Jay Mullins | August 19, 2006 08:37 PM
With all due respect to Art Monk and the legend that he is in Redskins lore, there really is no comparison here. Number 44 had everything you want in a football player- determination, ability, heart, and a not too often seen win at all costs attitude. Riggins gave meaning to the term "110%". He was all heart and all hustle. While I think the Redskins will have another Art Monk-type player in the future; there will never be another Riggo.
Posted by: Jeff | August 21, 2006 05:21 AM
It looks like the poll is coming down to a choice between Green and Riggo. Talk about choosing between Mom and Dad.
These were THE great players of the golden era of my childhood days.
When it comes to voting between them, methinks my head will explode before I can make a decision.
I'll blame the Post for putting us in such an unconscionable position (grins)
Posted by: Peggy R | August 22, 2006 12:03 AM
...But if Riggo had played for Turner's teams, Norv would still be here...
Dude. Let's not kid ourselves. Turner produces a 1,000 yard runner everywhere he goes, but our defense stank out loud every year he was in D.C. Nah, I was tired of hearing 'we are going to have to try harder next week,' every week.
You have to choose Green in the finale. Green could have rushed for 1,000 yards in a season, but Riggo could have never, EVER caught Tony Dorsett.
Posted by: Matt W | August 22, 2006 01:40 PM
...But if Riggo had played for Turner's teams, Norv would still be here...
Dude. Let's not kid ourselves. Turner produces a 1,000 yard runner everywhere he goes, but our defense stank out loud every year he was in D.C. Nah, I was tired of hearing 'we are going to have to try harder next week,' every week.
You have to choose Green in the finale. Green could have rushed for 1,000 yards in a season, but Riggo could have never, EVER caught Tony Dorsett.
Posted by: Matt W | August 22, 2006 01:46 PM
I'll never forget Riggo's Super Bowl run.Therefore, it's Riggo!
Posted by: Mike Morgan | August 23, 2006 01:04 PM
I'll never forget Riggo's Super Bowl run.Therefore, it's Riggo!
Posted by: Mike Morgan | August 23, 2006 01:05 PM
Ok, so the smoke has cleared, and it come down to a choice between John Riggins or Darrell Green as the Greatest Redskin Legend. At first glance, this appears very difficult. But once you really think about, the choice is all too clear.
For 4 straight years, John Riggins was the best running back in football. Without him, the Redskins would not even have made it to Super Bowl XVII. What he did in the playoffs and the Show that year, is unmatched.
I love Darrell Green. His speed was legendary ( ask Tony Dorsett or Eric Dickerson ), and I'm in awe of his longevity in such a physical sport, especially when you consider he was one of the best cover corners in the game for nearly his entire career.
But Riggins is THE MAN!!! Heck, he made Joe Gibbs famous!!!!!!!!
Posted by: C. Disharoon | August 23, 2006 10:54 PM
I must go with Art Monk back in those days he was the greatest. He very seldom missed a catch, he would catch between 2 or 3 defensive players. Ark Monk would hustle for the ball. I really think that he should have already been in the Hall of Fame for his performance. I haven't seen anyone like his since.
Posted by: Love | September 7, 2006 12:49 PM
John Riggins was awesome! He was a nightmare for opposing defenses who he would literally run through like a runaway truck.
Green was an excellent player but Riggins was the backbone of the 82-83 championship Redskins teams therefore gets the nod in my opinion.
Posted by: D. Supple | September 14, 2006 02:34 PM
Art Monk was greatest poossession reciever of all time. He was strong and incredibly durable. If he ever dropped a pass i have not been able to find a person who has seen it. He had a great game in the 91' Super Bowl. He was in my eyes the consumate Redskin. A member of the posse, the fun bunch and the smurfs. Riggins run in the 82 Super bowl is a symbol of redskin supremacy and might. But Monk has 3 rings to his 1. Monks rejection from the hall of fame voters is an open travesty. Nuff said.
Posted by: | October 5, 2006 10:12 AM
Art Monk was greatest poossession reciever of all time. He was strong and incredibly durable. If he ever dropped a pass i have not been able to find a person who has seen it. He had a great game in the 91' Super Bowl. He was in my eyes the consumate Redskin. A member of the posse, the fun bunch and the smurfs. Riggins run in the 82 Super bowl is a symbol of redskin supremacy and might. But Monk has 3 rings to his 1. Monks rejection from the hall of fame voters is an open travesty. Nuff said.
Posted by: Pablo Wolfe | October 5, 2006 10:13 AM
I could NOT possibly make an either-or selection between RIGGO and Mr. Class Act, ART MONK - you HAVE to have them both in the offensive all-time greatest Skins. Forget how many rings, touchdowns, Super Bowl appearances, the Hall of Fame - RIGGINS was the most successful prototype for the one-back offense scheme with the Skins, not to mention the back who made counter-trey a top play that most teams still use today! He was the horse, The Diesel and he ran straight up the gutt into the chest of the defense, not out of bounds and away from opposing defenders. ART MONK was Mr. Receiver, period! Reliable, consistent, record setter. He didn't whine about his quarterback getting the ball to him or blame him if he dropped a pass. He brought that ball into his chest countless times when we needed some yards. ART's quiet 'let my actions speak' leadership EQUALS John's inspiring all-business-on the field/inspiring frivolity off the field manner - Gotta have them both! Nita, holding it down as a HUGE Redskins fan surrounded by giants bozos in Jersey! Nuff said!
Posted by: Nita, from giantsville in Jersey | November 20, 2006 04:23 PM
All i need to say is The Diesel
Posted by: | January 5, 2007 11:09 AM
RIGGINS WAS A BEAST, TOOK A BEATING EVERY GAME, ART MONK WAS A RECEIVER, CAUGHT MANY TO SAY THE LEAST, BUT HE CAN NO WAY COMPARE TO MR. RIGGINS. I LOVE BOTH, BUT THE NOD GOES TO RIGGINS.
Posted by: KEITH AVERY | January 22, 2007 03:16 PM
Sorry I some how miss this column and just now reading it. I wish to mention a few things in why I would voted Art Monk. And think might be well for the Hall of Fame voters to look at as well.
Riggins was a one back behind a very domineering offensive line, and as such he got 90% of the rushing carries. Check rushing records prior to the 'Hogs'.
Monk; on the other hand, played with two other very capable receivers and for most of his career the the ball was spread fairly even between them. I truly think that stats don't always tell the greatness of a player. Art Monk should have been in the Hall years ago, but may never make it because the voters only look at stats and not what the player accomplished within his surrounding.
Thank you.
Posted by: ABB6 | March 26, 2007 07:06 PM
Sorry I some how miss this column and just now reading it. I wish to mention a few things in why I would voted Art Monk. And think might be well for the Hall of Fame voters to look at as well.
Riggins was a one back behind a very domineering offensive line, and as such he got 90% of the rushing carries. Check rushing records prior to the 'Hogs'.
Monk; on the other hand, played with two other very capable receivers and for most of his career the the ball was spread fairly even between them. I truly think that stats don't always tell the greatness of a player. Art Monk should have been in the Hall years ago, but may never make it because the voters only look at stats and not what the player accomplished within his surrounding.
Thank you.
Posted by: ABB6 | March 26, 2007 07:11 PM
Riggo can't carry monk jock.
Posted by: cmaks | March 30, 2007 09:42 AM
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I don't know who you are, but that comment about "picking between mom and dad at a custody hearing" was not only dead on accurate... but funny as hell. Coffee literally came out of my nose.