Obama's Grudge Factor
These are chilly days on Capitol Hill ... and on the campaign trail for Fox News journalists -- at least when they're anywhere near Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

Will Fox have to watch Obama on C-Span like the rest of us? (Reuters photo)
Sources tell The Sleuth that the Obama camp has "frozen out" Fox News reporters and producers in the wake of the network's major screw-up in running with the erroneous Obama-the-jihadist story reported by Insight magazine.
"I'm still in the freezer," one Fox journalist said, noting that the people at Fox "suffering the most did nothing wrong." (It was "Fox and Friends" host Steve Doocy who aired the Insight magazine piece, which reported that operatives connected to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) found out that Obama, as a child, was educated at a Muslim madrassah in Indonesia.)
Another Fox journalist called the network's airing of the story "unfortunate" for the network's journalists who have to cover Obama and who are being adversely affected despite not being involved in the incident.
Since the madrassah incident, Obama has given interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC -- pretty much every other network except Fox. Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out.
One source familiar with the dynamic between Fox and Obama, who asked not to be named, said Obama and his staff are in for a rude awakening if they think they can write off Fox News. If a candidate is serious about running for president, he or she is going to need a network like Fox to reach out to all those voters in the red and purple states, the source said.
The same source pointed out that Fox News political correspondent Carl Cameron interviewed Obama on Monday during the senator's trip to attend a field hearing on Hurricane Katrina.
But, as others pointed out, Cameron's interview wasn't prearranged; Cameron walked alongside Obama, who didn't even stop while answering the questions.
No one is suggesting the icy conditions are permanent. In fact, a thawing of sorts may already have begun thanks to two telephone conversations Fox News Channel CEO Roger Ailes had with Obama.
Aides to Obama said they weren't sure what exactly was said during the conversations. A Fox News spokesperson, who, though an official voice for the company asked not to be quoted by name, could neither confirm nor deny that conversations took place between Ailes and Obama. But of the "alleged freezing out" of Fox journalists by Obama's office, she said, "If true, perhaps Mr. [Robert] Gibbs should reconsider that ill-advised strategy given his candidate is trailing by 20 points in the polls."
Asked whether Ailes apologized to Obama, an Obama campaign aide said the senator "has not received any written apology."
In other words, aides weren't breaking their backs to go ask the senator whether Ailes had, indeed, apologized.
So maybe there was no written apology, but at least John Moody, vice president for news at Fox, issued this missive to staff in his daily editorial note on Jan. 23: "For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC. The urgent queue is our way of communicating information that is air-worthy. Please adhere to this."
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Posted by: Christopher Hobe Morrison | January 30, 2007 05:25 PM
"Try their best to be professional?" "Being professional" would have been to NOT report the story. Or, at the very least, have sent someone to Indonesia to try and figure if, in fact, the school was a madrassah when he was a child. They [being Fox] did nothing of the sort, and that is just irresponsible.
It would be nice to have Fox News cover Obama's potential campaign, but he certainly doesn't need them. They need him.
Posted by: Centrist Texas Dem | January 30, 2007 05:50 PM
fox only pretends to be news. actually, it's a mix of crass commercialism and fear-mongering anti-intellectual conservatism. (whoops, is that redundant?)
Posted by: meuphys | January 31, 2007 12:13 AM
Most folks know Fox is not considered a "News" orginization by anyone in the business, although they will not say so publicly for various reasons. I really don't know how to classify what they broadcast other than, IMO, gossip, made up stories, and smears. I watch it a lot just to see what they have come up with and how far they will go with it after it has been pretty well exposed as false or a smear job.
Posted by: lylepink | January 31, 2007 09:06 AM
that's too funny, that Obama or any liberal candidate needs fox snooze to reach red-state voters. red-state voters are brain-dead republikkan zombies, and Obama should merely be the first Dem to refuse to deal with that bushco propoganda arm. any reporter who takes a job there should be shunned and ignored. any reporter.
Posted by: ronjazz | January 31, 2007 09:06 AM
This guy is a joke if he thinks he can still contend in the '08 Presidential race without utilizing all networks. Especially Fox's, whose rating equal about CNN and MSNBC combined.
The spotlight has gone straight to his head.
Posted by: Obamahater | January 31, 2007 09:37 AM
"Screw-ups" like this seem to happen at fox more than the other channels. Putting a D by Mark Foley's name, attributing the opinions of one or two dems to the entire party. What really floored me was when I saw one of their political analysts say that dems wanted to raise taxes on old people's social security checks. The list goes on.
I've gotten to the point where I'm suspicious of nonpolitical news that they report.
Posted by: Booyah | January 31, 2007 10:17 AM
For the life of me, I can't understand why ANY non-conservative-wacko candidate would give the time of day to that lying, biased Fox network. The best thing the Democratic Party could do would be for all of them to boycott that network entirely.
Posted by: me | January 31, 2007 10:34 AM
Freeze them out Barack! Nobody who watches Faux News are ever going to vote for a Democrat. If every
Democratic politician or strategist would ignore the Faux News Channel then all that would be less is a circular firing squad with the O'Reilly's and the Hannitty's devouring one another.
Posted by: Last Mogul | January 31, 2007 10:59 AM
Christopher Morrison is mistaken. Fox does not have its good name to consider. By giving shows to Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson, Neal Cavuto and the morning moron crew, Fox gave up any hope of having a good name years ago.
Posted by: SteveG | January 31, 2007 11:07 AM
End the war by electing a Muslim!!
Posted by: Steve Tarkington | January 31, 2007 11:22 AM
I can't imagine why any Democratic candidate would go on Fox. It's not like the interview would be favorable. Getting the message out in red states takes boots on the ground. The Obama story that Fox ran with was not an accidental screw up.
Posted by: Deb | January 31, 2007 11:26 AM
Its a shame that because it was a democrat that the story was about,he is portrade as a victim. If he wants to be president, he needs to be able to handle tough truths about his past. What is he trying to hide? And why doesn't he place the blame on himself for hiding information about his past, or place the blame on Hilary Clinton on leaking the information. And not Fox News who is fair and balanced.
Posted by: Lynn | January 31, 2007 11:32 AM
Fox probably can't get near Obama because all the other news outlets are on their knees before him like an intern on Bill Clinton. Oops, was that crass?
Posted by: Bert | January 31, 2007 11:37 AM
The big and obvious white elephant to be addressed here, to medias regret, is.. did this story, as only reported by Fox, quoting a source, really happen? Is it true that Hillarys camp did this investigation, and is it true he was raised a Muslim? And if so, so what.. why would Hillary care to expose something like that, to "expose" Obama as a possible enemy not to be trusted? I really want to know if this came about from the work of Hillarys camp, if she knew about it, and in deed did leak this information out to the press, whom Fox only quoted. Theres always leaks of information, but this one in particular is very interesting considering our war on fanatical Muslim extreme radicals. Was Hillary trying to make the American public connect some dots here to Obama? Thats scary, and the press needs to ferret out where this story came from.. if Hillary trying to dig "dirt" on her opponent.. then to question her motives in digging in this sort of soil. What exactly was she trying to do or say here?
Posted by: tcdelfin | January 31, 2007 11:37 AM
If anyone's a joke Obamahater, you stand first in line. Given that Fox has slanted the news to favor Bush and the Republicans for the past several year's, how can you not suspect this more an smear issue than any other. You have a right to opinion although I think if you could get past that he's a Democrat, he's of mixed race, and that he's a Muslim, you might see some real positive's in his make up. However, I do doubt that could happen since it would require you to have an open mind and with your signature, doesn't sound possible.
I don't think Obama is ready but do believe him to have the qualities need for the job of President. One thing very much for certain to me however, he has a hell of lot more creditably than Fox News or posters signing off their post's with "hate" as a part of their signature.
Ken
Posted by: Ken | January 31, 2007 11:38 AM
"One thing very much for certain to me however"? Ken, I love that! Clean the spit off your monitor.
Posted by: HateBroccoli | January 31, 2007 11:49 AM
I strongly encourage Sen. Obama to "freeze out" FOX News. They are propagandists--not a news gathering organization. While they hide behind the mantle of 'the press' their so-called news is biased, one-sided, and in many instances, factually wrong. As for the FOX News reporters, they haven't any integrity. I find the lot of them disgusting trash. Just recently my wife said FOX News is for white trash. I agree.
Posted by: Ardie | January 31, 2007 11:50 AM
For the record: Barack Obama is NOT a Muslim. He is a member of the United Church of Christ.
Posted by: and 1 | January 31, 2007 11:59 AM
Hey Ardie, as a WhiteTrash-American, I resent that!
Posted by: Dwayne | January 31, 2007 11:59 AM
Lots of paranoia here and very little substance. All MSM is liberal and in the Dems pocket. The ONLY place to get any fair slant of news is the FOX channel. God Bless America and God Bless FOX news!!
Posted by: Mary Auer | January 31, 2007 12:00 PM
Anyone who watches Fox Schmooze isn't going to vote for Obama or any other intelligent human being. I'm sure the average IQ for Fox viewership is less than Bush's.
Posted by: DP meadows | January 31, 2007 12:03 PM
Ratings is ratings. Why not talk to half of america? Soros did an appearance on Cavuto to very positive effect before the election.
Posted by: Ed | January 31, 2007 12:04 PM
To Lynn and tcdelfin:
The story is NOT true. That is the point. The school in question is not and never has been a madrassah, and Obama is not and never has been a Muslim.
Fox Noise Channel took an inaccurate report from a right-wing newspaper and gave it airtime, getting the false story out there and claiming no responsiblity.
They count on gullible people to believe it and to not really notice that even they aren't willing to stand by it, and people like you are proving that the technique is effective.
Posted by: SteveG | January 31, 2007 12:06 PM
I feel nothing for the Faux news people on the campaign trail. When you go to work there, you know what you're going to work for and what is expected. They shouldn't act like they are true journalists and offended somehow.
God Bless EVERYONE.
Posted by: Cj | January 31, 2007 12:06 PM
No loss here -- The typical tabloid news watcher (ie. angry white male) would never have voted for Obama anyway simply on the basis of his skin color.
Posted by: pw | January 31, 2007 12:07 PM
Who cares. Has anyone noticed that we are a LOOOOOOONG way out from the election. No one will remember the flap over madrassah-gate in a week. All the networks slant in one direction or another, it's entertainment.
Posted by: fred | January 31, 2007 12:08 PM
I think Obama is right. I think ANY politician with any integrity should "freeze out" Fox News AND Fox and Friends.
Posted by: Robert - Indiana | January 31, 2007 12:09 PM
obama has a unique insight into the mindset of the jihadist mentality as having been taught in their schools. He just shrugs it off as if it didn't leave a permenant scar on his psychy. He has been very disengenuous regarding his past,and cannot be trusted.FOX is to be commended for it's non-biased examination of the facts as opposed to the liberal media's constant attempts to promote perveyors of their socialist agenda. FOX is number 1 because they treat the viewer as intelligent beings and not forcing onesided diatribe down their throats. When Obama been-lyin decides to come clean FOX will probably give him a second chance. Until then only the braindead morons that watch those lib networks will have to listen to him again,and again, and again
Posted by: obama been-lyin | January 31, 2007 12:09 PM
It's pretty clear, even if you only base the perception on Fox's own polls, that Fox News viewers (indeed, all of the right-wing programming's consumers) have been marginalized by current events. The "faith-based" thirty percent of the public who still believe that they get "fair and balanced" news on Fox won't ever be persuaded that a Democrat isn't the devil incarnate anyway.
Posted by: faboofour | January 31, 2007 12:10 PM
'I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy'...
Posted by: Joe Biden | January 31, 2007 12:11 PM
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Posted by: Og | January 31, 2007 12:12 PM
Ailes is PATHETIC. Fox News is PATHETIC.
Good for Obama.
Good for the Sleuth for hitting this story.
Time to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and make it law.
Trouble is -- for Ailes et al -- Fox would be out of business if it was forced by law to report honestly.
Posted by: F&B | January 31, 2007 12:13 PM
In all of morning television a viewer would have to search far and wide to find a worse show than "Fox & Friends" and two bigger fools than Kilmeade and Doocy. If Fox News is serious about its credibility, then the network should have Doocy apologize and repudiate the story. Otherwise, Fox News will continue to have only 5% of the total cable/network audience that it presently has.
Posted by: Pat | January 31, 2007 12:13 PM
FOX is not a news network. It is a GOP propaganda network.
FOX is not even conservative. That would require some degree of intellectual honesty. They simply shill for anything the GOP does even when the GOP is pursuing policies that are against conservative principles like busting the budget. If the GOP does it, it is good. This is how FOX frames every issue.
Posted by: Mike | January 31, 2007 12:15 PM
If Bahama has any sense he'll never talk to Fox.
Why all other Democrats don't react similarly with Fox freezes of their own is mystifying, since that net's slant toward Republican urgencies is so blatant, perpetual and such a hostage to the McCarthy tradition.
Let Hume's lip curl go unsatisfied.
Posted by: Harry Lime | January 31, 2007 12:15 PM
Hmm. Seems from the comments that the "Source who asked not to be named" does not know what the hell he or she is talking about. As pointed out in the posts above, the democratic primary is not going to be won on the Fox News Channel. Who ever wins the Democratic primary is going to get Skewerd on Fox no matter who they are. Lets face it Fox is propoganda plain and simple. If it wasn't Steve Doocy would have been fired. That is what happens to Journalists who air stories that turn out to be untrue. Just ask Dan Rather.
Posted by: Marc Smith | January 31, 2007 12:16 PM
Bad, Naughty, Dirty Fox. Democrats will make world safe for truth. Everyone repeat together - "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN". "I will not question CNN".
Posted by: Winston Smith | January 31, 2007 12:17 PM
A recall a poll done shortly after the war started. It said 80% of Fox viewers believed something about the war that was not true - the highest of any other group.
With so many Fox viewers believing known lies it's hard to call these problems they have mistakes.
They lie and they're proud of it.
Obama shouldn't give in. If he refuses to sit down with Fox, I'll vote for him in heart beat.
Posted by: zzpat | January 31, 2007 12:17 PM
Reminds me of a Song:
Song: FOX on the Run Lyrics
I don't wanna know your name
Cause you don't look the same
The way you did before
OK you think you got a pretty face
But the rest of you is out of place
You looked all right before
FOX on the run
You screamed and everybody comes a-running
Take a run and hide yourself away
FOX on the run
F-foxy, foxy on the run and hideaway
You-you talk about just every band
But the names you drop are second hand
I've heard it all before
I don't wanna know your name
Cause you don't look the same
The way you did before
(repeat chorus)
Posted by: Saulispaul | January 31, 2007 12:18 PM
I think Obama is right for not talking to Fox News. Some people there still contend that Hillary leaked this story. The Fox News Channel can never take responsibility for their actions. It's always some one elses fault. No serious Democratic candidate should go on Fox. Anyone who votes or prefers the left does not watch that channel.
Posted by: P.J. | January 31, 2007 12:20 PM
All the MSM sucks, and FauxNews is the worst of all because they aren't just biased - they have a full-blown political agenda. FauxNews is "news" for petulant children, run by petulant children.
Freeze 'em out and turn it OFF!
Posted by: God'sHonestTruth | January 31, 2007 12:21 PM
Why do Democratic politicians go on FOX "news"? They know they will never get a fair hearing. They will be tarred, feathered and smeared.
The kind of people who watch FOX would never vote for a Democrat. They believe Bush is the second coming of Lincoln, we found WMDs in Iraq, rapture is coming. You can't reason with these people.
Posted by: DonB | January 31, 2007 12:21 PM
Obama doesn't need Fox News, and now he has the perfect excuse to tell them to go Cheney themselves when they call. Maybe it will even become a trend.
Whenever Fox News whines that he won't give them an interview, he can reply by once again telling the story of how they printed outrageous lies about him without making any effort to check the facts.
Posted by: danhagen | January 31, 2007 12:22 PM
Faux/Fox news wouldn't protest this much if it didn't need Obama -- I just wish other politicians whom it routinely smears would grow a backbone and do the same. The news media seems to predominately slant RIGHT, not left (esp. ABC) -- they're just not so much "in your face" obvious. Why, oh!why!, don't the progressives have their own political TV channel like Faux/Fox? Let's get a grass roots movement going -- let us all contribute according to our means. Like it or not, Air America radio IS succeeding -- we can succeed with the television medium as well!
Posted by: asdr | January 31, 2007 12:23 PM
If Barak O sticks to his guns, MORE POWER TO HIM! If he's just doing this for show, WHATEVER! The people who voted the Democratic Party into power DOESN'T NEED FAUX.
Posted by: Jason | January 31, 2007 12:24 PM
As someone pointed out, exactly why is Steve Doocey still employed? CBS kicked Dan Rather's a$$ to the curb...
Isn't it just a little tiny bit worse for a major "news" outlet to call an American a terrorist? Obama might have a good slander case here.
Posted by: God'sHonestTruth | January 31, 2007 12:24 PM
A new poll shows that 80% of the people who quote Polls are liars. Really, I'm telling the truth.
Posted by: bobo | January 31, 2007 12:26 PM
Fox is #1 in cable news only because it's got the entire conservative market, while the moderate and liberal viewers are spread among all the other news networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN & MSNBC). These five combined will dwarf FOX on any given day.
Posted by: VM | January 31, 2007 12:27 PM
I think more candidates should freeze out Fox. You can't combat false stories from a network you're willing to play ball with as effectively as if you stand firm.
Posted by: Gabe | January 31, 2007 12:28 PM
That Doocey! What a Doocey! Even his name sounds dirty! What a pile of dog Doocey! What a Doocey Bag!!!
Posted by: yaya | January 31, 2007 12:28 PM
You guys are so Foxed up!
Posted by: blablabla | January 31, 2007 12:29 PM
Hey, Anyone else think that Mary Ann Akers is a Fox. OOOOh, I didn't mean it that way!
Posted by: bob | January 31, 2007 12:32 PM
People who work for Faux News are not journalists, they are performance artists. Anyone who takes them seriously deserves what they get.
I think all Democrats should freeze out Faux News, why should they pretend that it's a real news source?
Posted by: MobiusOne | January 31, 2007 12:32 PM
Why is the liberalcommie media hiding the fact that Obama and Hillary were the pilots of each of the planes that hit the World Trade Center? God bless FOX, I have personally witnessed Ailes walk on water.
Posted by: Watcher | January 31, 2007 12:33 PM
I do not watch anything that Fox creates, they are blocked on my TVs, they have no credability, they are a propaganda network, absolutly worthless for real Americans who hunger for the truth. They are going to make up what Obamma says anyway so why not cut them off.
Posted by: Earl | January 31, 2007 12:33 PM
Fox News is part of a brilliant propaganda machine. It won't go away until people stop watching it and stop buying all the products they advertise. If you doubt its influence consider the damage they have already done. --Bring back the 'equal time provision' on our public airwaves (we own them remember) and let the 27% of the population that watch FN (the same group that thinks Bush and the rest of the Republicans are doing such a great job) actually be exposed to some opposing, and sometimes better, ideas. www.crooksandliars.com
Posted by: Independent Thinker | January 31, 2007 12:34 PM
Nobody in their right mind believes Fox Noise is anything but a phony news outlet whose mission is the spread of GOP propaganda and the lastest right-wing talking points.
And in case you it, the WH chose Fox favorite son, Tony 'the Snowman' Snow as their PR guy. Nuff said.
Posted by: phlounder | January 31, 2007 12:36 PM
I wish the Washington Post would go back to being a NEWSpaper, instead of being a stenographic aid to no-name sources and smear merchants. Could you guys do a little fact-checking? Could you report on something that matters, please??? Geesh. No wonder the country is going to hell in a handbasket.
Posted by: Ellen | January 31, 2007 12:36 PM
Fox news is a national disgrace. Their irresponsible, fantasy based, hypocritcal view of the world directly influences the 3 million or so people who watch them every day. For instance just yesterday Fox flogged Maria Bartiromo about being influenced by citigroup while for the last 6 years, Carl Cameron, the Fox white house correspondent, has a wife who works for the Bush administration. They flog other networks for being "biased" while they report overtly biased news every day. It is unbelieveable what they get away with. They really should be held to account for their "sins" by the new democratic congress. The evidence should be brought out in a McCarthyesque fashion in front of the nation. Maybe that would cool their jets a bit. Their motto should not be "fair and balanced" but "we're biased and smug about it"
Posted by: john milks | January 31, 2007 12:38 PM
freeze them out. They are the propaganda wing of the right wing radicals that have done so much damage. You know they aren't going to be fair anyway, while help them? Or maybe you could agree to appear with the frequency Cheney visits the NY Times, you know, something courageous like that.
Posted by: Hebephrene | January 31, 2007 12:38 PM
Ellen, the country's not going to hell in a handbasket, it's taking the express train.
Posted by: bob | January 31, 2007 12:38 PM
Faux Noise Channel is nothing more than a televised version of the National Enquirer - and appeals to the same mentality. The fact that they're allowed to masquerade as a "news" channel on our public air waves is a testament to our country's dual personality: freedom of speech versus the gullibility of the American public.
Fortunately, their ratings are dropping. Americans may be slow to catch on when they're being lied to, but they *do* learn.
Posted by: Randy Russell | January 31, 2007 12:39 PM
Hey Winston:
"Do not question CNN" ???
No one takes CNN seriously. No one.
The endless cat-trapped-up-on-a-tree-limb stories appeal only to the apolitical and/or those with extensive brain damage.
Posted by: Ph M | January 31, 2007 12:40 PM
Maria Bartiromo! now there's a Fox I'd watch
Posted by: Carl | January 31, 2007 12:40 PM
Watch Fox News, turn OFF the sound.
Make a list of every product advertised.
BOYCOTT them all!
Posted by: Gary Schneider | January 31, 2007 12:41 PM
Hey Ph M,
No kiddin.
Posted by: Winston | January 31, 2007 12:42 PM
Thay guy Doocey looks like a sly fox and quoting something you got on a website without any clarification is inresponsible.
Without FOX issueing an open apology to the public and to Mr. Obama in person gives him to right to can them from his campaign.
How unfortunate that the same group of guys at Fox who call Anderson Cooper of CNN the Paris Hilton of TV did this. Expect more from them.
Anyway they lost the last election and if they continue in this light, then wow to the republicans.
Posted by: Nzui | January 31, 2007 12:43 PM
Anybody who works in TV knows that Fox is PURE PROPAGANDA twenty four hours a day. All candidates should refuse Fox access. We should boycott all Fox sponsors! No other network should hire anyone who has worked for Fox.
The Fox network is drenched in the blood of all those who have died in Irag. Their on-air lioes decieved the American Public into supporting an illegal and immoral war. Fox news is criminally responsible for the war as much as Bush/cheney themselves.
Posted by: Brian | January 31, 2007 12:44 PM
he's waiting for that written apology from ailes, gibson and doocy. then he's gonna wave that thing around at every fundraiser and rally he can cram into his schedule for the next year. probably win the nomination just by humiliating Fox.
Posted by: mike | January 31, 2007 12:45 PM
Fox News is nothing but an outlet for Republican propaganda. Obama and the rest of the Democrats should avoid Fox like the plague it is.
Posted by: synykyl | January 31, 2007 12:45 PM
I posted a comment at 12:23 on this site -- it's now mysteriously gone. It did not contain any foul language, etc. Are too many comments running counter to expectations???
Posted by: asdr | January 31, 2007 12:47 PM
well winston,
perhaps I misinterpreted your comment. I understood it as insinuating a left-leaning bias parallel to FNC's right.
I don't believe that anyone...Democratic or Republican voters alike...watches CNN in hopes of being informed.
Posted by: Ph M | January 31, 2007 12:48 PM
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL! Perhaps we can encourage all the other Dems running to not grant FOX any access.
FOX can keep missing out on the real news happening in this country. The other night I saw them polling Hooter's waitresses for their political opinions!
When FOX only has access to their Repugnant Overlords, we will once more become a DEMOCRATIC nation.
Posted by: Harmonika | January 31, 2007 12:48 PM
I'm glad to read that Obama is taking a hard line toward a news source that maligned him. I have no doubt that it won't last long.
Fox News is the worst of the 24 hours news stations but they all have many examples of bias. Let's not forget that Glenn Beck on CNN was also pushing this story.
Posted by: mroom | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM
I noticed that several comments have sign-offs like, "Obama been Lying" and "Obama Hatter" and I have to look at them as already "Brain Dead Fox Viewers". You belong to Fox and please, please keep watching and commenting. I believe that racists, bigots and just plan dumb people still exist in 2007 and you are my proof. You are a great tool in teaching my friends who think we have made progress as a nation that we have to keep our eyes and ears open. If Senator Obama runs for president, the rest of your racists, bigoted kind will crawl from under what ever rocks you've been under and subject the rest of us to your presence.
Surprise me, come into the real world, get educated and make a decision based on something other than the ignorant propaganda that Fox feeds you.
Posted by: Pearlene Scott | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM
Smashing a candidate's reputation is not something that happens 'accidentally'. Fox is a rightwing propaganda megaphone.
Posted by: tedneros | January 31, 2007 12:51 PM
FOX is not even conservative. That would require some degree of intellectual honesty. They simply shill for anything the GOP does.
The current GOP party leaders, the neocon wing, are clearly not conservative, they (like fox news itself), are fascist. They will not be happy until they have ended our constitutional government and have created a fascist theocracy. These people need to be called out for who they are and what they stand for. The simalarities between the neocon wing of the GOP and the Nazi party of 1930's is startling, and if we want to remain a constitutional democracy we need to bring back the fairness doctrine, if we sell this as a way to reign in that "horrible" liberal media. How can the neocon fascist argue with that? It puts their "chickenhawk asses in a hole they dug for themselfs.
Posted by: sprts | January 31, 2007 12:53 PM
It's hard to believe that there are people that STILL believe Fox about the "madrassah". Just goes to show the mentality of people that watch Fox. Facts don't matter to them.
Posted by: Gahh | January 31, 2007 12:54 PM
I just can't believe that this wonderful country has to have anything as disreputable as Fox news. I just can't believe it.
Those reporters working for Fox who 'just needed a job' should kill themselves.
Posted by: CompassionateC | January 31, 2007 12:55 PM
Could it be that FoxNews is a news organization by name only in order to be given press credentials, but is really just a right-wing smear and attack organization?
Posted by: ron hohn | January 31, 2007 12:56 PM
I wish Obama would freeze out the Fox Noise Channel for the rest of his campaign. The Dems have the power now - no need to give any of it to right-wing propaganda organizations like the one operated by hard-core Republicans. Starve the beast!
Posted by: Tracy | January 31, 2007 12:56 PM
The FOX comedy channel has never gone out of thier way to be either fair or balanced so I'm not sure why they would throw a temper tantrum when they've been "frozen out" for another case of inaccurate reporting. In fact, I wish most reasonable politicians would just stop giving interviews or appearing on the FOX comedy channel altogether. Then the network would be exposed for what it really is: a propaganda tool of the far right and nothing more.
Posted by: elmerg | January 31, 2007 12:57 PM
Right on Obama! The people who listen to FOX aren't going to vote for you anyway.
All Democrats should put the FOX noise channel into Coventry and refuse to have anything to do with it. They should refuse to appear on their programs and refuse to answer their reporters' questions. FOX is not a legitimate news channel, but, rather the propaganda wing of the Bush Administration and therefore should not be treated as if it were a legitimate news organization.
Posted by: CaptainVideo | January 31, 2007 12:57 PM
God people, get a grip. This story was run by a right-wing online news magazine, Insite, not a legitimate news agency. It was originally sent to the Drudge Report, who declined to post it. The magazine then went to the next best thing, Fox News, who leapt on the story. The story is NOT true, and there's absolutely no proof of Hilary having anything to do with it. Think about it, if she was going to leak it, why would she choose to leak it to one media outlet, a right-wing blog??? Duh! Finally, even if this story was true (which it isn't), he reportedly only attended the school for ONE year, when he was just 6-years old. I know my life has been greatly shaped, and my ideologies largely honed, by the finger-painting I did in school at that age.
Posted by: ChicagoDude | January 31, 2007 12:58 PM
There's an old saying in journalism that if your mom says she loves you, then you'd better check it out. Not doing the research to vet the truth of the initial story was the network's biggest problem. If they even wanted to vet it.
Posted by: Angela Tant | January 31, 2007 01:00 PM
I've read many inaccurate comments from the posters here concerning Mr. Obama. While most of these inaccuracies are being perpetuated by Fox supporters, a few have been put forward by Fox detractors as well.
Really, people. Forget the mainstream media and its alleged biases for a moment. Exercise a minimum of initiative and Google yourself some facts.
It seems that the truth has become such a precious commodity that no one who has it will give it up without a fight.
Posted by: ikorservice | January 31, 2007 01:00 PM
Nice try at a cover-up job for Hussein Osama, WaPo.
PATHETIC!
Posted by: OTTMANN | January 31, 2007 01:01 PM
Despite the name, Fox News doesn't really have many "news" shows. Most of their programming is "news analysis". In other words, editorial commentary. That little distinction gives them any cover they need when people accuse them of "making up the news".
"A close monitoring of the channel over several weeks indicates that the news segments tend to be straightforward, with little hint of political subtext except for stories the news editors feel the 'mainstream' press has either downplayed or ignored," wrote Columbia Journalism Review's Neil Hickey (3-4/98). The fact that Fox's "chat consistently tilts to the conservative side," wrote the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz (2/5/01), "may cast an unwarranted cloud on the news reporting, which tends to be straightforward."
Unfortunately, most Fox News viewers can't tell the difference between news and commentary, thus end up thinking that Bill O'Reilly is reporting the news, when really all he's reporing is his own opinion.
Posted by: petunia | January 31, 2007 01:03 PM
I have wondered for years why any Democrat has anything to do with Fox. They are so irrelevent that no Democrat would be adversely effected by freezing the network out. I say it's time for a party-wide freeze-out.
Posted by: unpoetaloco | January 31, 2007 01:03 PM
Yes Democrats, more of this please. No Democratic candidate is going to win election because they appeared enough on FOX or lose because they didn't. Democrats should invest their valuable time with media outlets where their message is more likely to be presented honestly and accurately.
Posted by: Cloud7 | January 31, 2007 01:04 PM
While Fox does have a sizable viewership, no voter who relies on Fox for their information (and also believes this information) will ever vote for a Democratic candidate. I often wonder how Fox viewers are able to connect fork to mouth, let alone facts to reality. But that's just me.
It seems silly for any Democrat running for office to go on Fox, at any time, ever, except for sport/amusement - there are no votes waiting in the shadows amnong Fox's loyal viewers (there's a reason Limbaugh calls them "dittoheads"). As one commenter said, it's not a news network - it's hard to describe what Fox is, other than a bunch of angry, bigoted, hateful, lying white folks who care about nothing other than spreading their hatred and fear.
There are entire chapters of the bible dedicated to describing what happens to the likes of the people who work for Fox. They aren't the good parts of the bible, either.
Posted by: mateosf | January 31, 2007 01:05 PM
I agree with RONJAZZ. I understand how this works (they need each other), but I've long been suprised that more on the left don't make themselves available for FOX interviews. I know it's important to get whatever message out there, whenever possible, BUT it would be interesting to see what would happen if there no immediate 'targets' to shoot at during target practice (i.e. Chris Wallace).
Posted by: asleepontheporch | January 31, 2007 01:06 PM
Obama should freeze them out why not? Fox has been on a campaign to discredit him for months. This was not the first attempt to form associations between Obama and terrorism in hte minds of thier views. Two weeks prior they were routinely misspelling his name Osama trying to use subliminal messaging connecting him to terrorism. The gaul that they would then claim that he is out of line and that it was just one or two individuals at Fox and that the "innocent" journalists should not be shut out is insulting.
This is their tactic. Just link the constant insinuation that Hilary is a lesbian that occurs almost daily on their broadcasts are designed to get homophobes from voting for her. Thier strategy is to vilify through the most devisive means all competition for the repuglicans so so sorry for that typo I meant to type republicans really I'm innocent and non partisan here. By the way Fox also routinely uses the term DemocRATS instead of the correct term Democrate. AS a news outlet they would be hard pressed if everyone refused to deal with them until they actually started living up to their moniker of a no spin zone. The arrogance to think they are so important that they can slander people and that we all have to put up with it.
Posted by: Tony | January 31, 2007 01:07 PM
Although it is hard to believe there are people that ignorant and impressionable, there are going to be thousands who will always believe that story. Look at the comments here, on other sites, on youtube. About 15% still believe Barak Obama was a muslim and/or went to a madrassa. Fox News did the damage it set out purposely to do.
I do not watch TV news period, because it is either proganda or plain lies. People, teach your children to follow their instincts and trust themselves and to question and learn always!
Posted by: Dejah Thoris | January 31, 2007 01:10 PM
"Grudge"? That's BS. Obama's response is absolutely appropriate. FOX is not a news outlet and it misused its admission of "error" to blame Clinton.
Posted by: Maezeppa | January 31, 2007 01:19 PM
Why on earth would a Democratic candidate want air time on Fox News? Fox News is a propaganda network for the hate-spewing radical right. Their smear job on Obama last week was only a taste of things to come. Obama's campaign will buy air time on the other networks, and will gain name recognition that way. Obama does not need to sully himself with the vulgar trash at Fox.
Posted by: Devil's Advocate | January 31, 2007 01:20 PM
Obama is wrong. If he actually finds real journalists at Fox, he SHOULD talk to them. Fox has not proven itself to be a news organization. How, then, can it employ journalists? Propaganda organizations employ PR people.
Posted by: editorsteve | January 31, 2007 01:21 PM
First, in order to understand Fox New's sloppy bias, we need to look into the source of the story -- Insight which is an internet only rag owned by the Unification Church (the moonies). They also own the Washington Times.
It irks me everytime the media quotes someone from the Washington Times because the Unification Church has invested well over two billion dollars in subsidies to keep this propoganda rag alive as can be seen if you look at them on Hoover's. They subsidize every paper they sell to the tune of $3.00.
CNN did an on site look at Obama's school and even showed a picture of Obama with his class. The teachers lined up in the back were wearing street clothes and the female teachers were not even wearing anything on their heads.
I am afraid that the reason this crap stuck to Obama is that it stimulates a conscious or unconscious bias that a significant portion of the public has against people of color -- they don't trust one to run the country.
We need to get over this real fast because I view Obama as the only candidate that can unify and inspire the country to go after its underlying problems of dependence on imported oil and runaway healthcare/retirement costs.
Posted by: microsrfr | January 31, 2007 01:22 PM
Obama does not need Fox. The people they reach will never vote for Obama. In fact, they would not vote for Obama if he were a Republican. There's no reason for him to trail after crumbs from the opposition table.
One of the most distressing tactics among Democrats is the seeking of support from the dead-enders of the right. Preach to the choir -- the choir isn't organized to give you full support. Then preach to the congregation and get their support before you run out to the bar and preach to the drunks.
Posted by: RuthAlice | January 31, 2007 01:24 PM
Obama should do just the opposite. He and every other Democrat shoud be going on Fox as much as possible. Fox News hosts are lightweights. They're used to trashing Dems behind their backs and having sycophantic puff piece interviews with GOPers. When you get a Dem on there who is ready to fight it out, the Foxies fold like cheap pants suits. Just watch Barney Frank slug it out with them. He's too smart for them. He comes off looking brlliant and the Fox hosts end up looking like idiots. Even a lightweight like Barbara Boxer is sharp enough to get Fox hosts tongue-tied on the air.
Posted by: shjmc | January 31, 2007 01:26 PM
Hell, let's freeze fox "news" out of the Democratic Convention next year too.
Posted by: paguyinatl | January 31, 2007 01:28 PM
Hannity, Gibson, O'reilly, Cavuto, even the weather forecaster are GOP operatives. I put that channel of propaganda in my blocked list long long time ago and forgot the password (actually I entered the password with closed eyes). I found the bias and blatant lies so offensive that I even changed my bank because they were tuned on FAUX all the time. They are like Pravda. Cheney's favorite and only channel.
Posted by: Jorge Moreno | January 31, 2007 01:28 PM
the guy is terrorist. he can't win this election or the nommination anyways
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 01:29 PM
Good for Obama! The media need to be held accountable, not that FOX is legimate media.
Posted by: peacehawk | January 31, 2007 01:30 PM
"there are plenty of honest journalists at Fox too, who just needed the job"
I'd take a job as the Statue of Liberty for Liberty Tax Service before I'd work for Fox News.
Posted by: West Ailsworth | January 31, 2007 01:30 PM
For one Barak does not need FOX. If he were a republican he'd need FOX. He'll be a target for them whether he gives interviews or not, probably even more so if they had access to him!
Posted by: Daryll | January 31, 2007 01:30 PM
If you're already watching Fox News, you're not going to vote Democrat, as far as I'm considered all Democrats should boycott the network which refuses to act as anything but a Republican cheerleader.
Posted by: Ali | January 31, 2007 01:31 PM
*"I'm still in the freezer,"* one Fox journalist said, noting that the people at Fox "*suffering the most did nothing wrong.*"
Poor thing! First, Fox does not hire *journalists*. It hires propaganda-spouters. Even if the *journalists* at Fox got an interview with Obama, they would distort it. Fox *journalists* know perfectly well when they are hired that their job is to carry water for the right-wing and to smear everybody else.
Posted by: Independent | January 31, 2007 01:32 PM
This should be a lesson learned for Fox News and that lesson is the one of unintended consequences. The humble thing for Fox News would be a written apology and a dismissal of those responsible and the gracious thing for Obama would be to accept the apology but the ball is clearly in Fox New's court. Time will tell if they are up to the task.
When 60 Minutes put out a bad story on Bush's TANG duty CBS fired Dan Rather. Fox News is in the same boat here.
Posted by: DallasNE | January 31, 2007 01:33 PM
Fox is not an impartial news source, they barely pretend to be impartial.
Freezing out unfriendly media is a standard campaign tactic. Fox is going to continue to smear Obama as often as they can. There is very little for Obama to gain from appearing on Fox.
Hillary is a different issue, Fox journalists know that if they smear her they will face the wrath of Murdoch who is a chiseling weasel who is worried that he has bet too much on what may be a losing hand.
Posted by: PHB | January 31, 2007 01:33 PM
First, in order to understand Fox New's sloppy bias, we need to look into the source of the story -- Insight which is an internet only rag owned by the Unification Church (the moonies). They also own the Washington Times.
It irks me everytime the media quotes someone from the Washington Times because the Unification Church has invested well over two billion dollars in subsidies to keep this propaganda rag alive as can be seen if you look them up on Hoover's. They subsidize every paper they sell to the tune of $3.00.
CNN did an on site look at Obama's school and even showed a picture of Obama with his class. The teachers lined up in the back were wearing street clothes and the female teachers were not even wearing anything on their heads.
I am afraid that the reason this crap stuck to Obama is that it stimulates a conscious or unconscious bias that a significant portion of the public has against people of color -- they don't trust one to run the country.
We need to get over this real fast because I view Obama as the only candidate that can unify and inspire the country to go after its underlying problems of dependence on imported oil and runaway healthcare/retirement costs. Without a rapid change in direction, we will soon face an economic and military confrontation with China over oil and a financial meltdown over multi-trillion dollar deficits.
Posted by: microsrfr | January 31, 2007 01:34 PM
I think Obama is making a terrible mistake by giving the stiff arm to FOX.
With the extremely low IQ level of their angry whitefolk audience, Obama could easily confuse those lemmings into voting for the white half of himself.
A vote is a vote, even those cast in rightwingnutville.
Posted by: kbcarter | January 31, 2007 01:35 PM
The most professional thing faux news could do is go off the air. If that's all the news red staters want then they can do without or learn how to read a newspaper.
Posted by: bourgeoning | January 31, 2007 01:38 PM
Currently a CNN is not much better than Fox. They have also baselessly smeared Oboma by compairing him to Saddam, Bin Ladin, and the Iranian leader. And this is what the wingnuts call the liberal media. Bring back the fairness doctrine NOW!!!
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 01:39 PM
fox news is just dreadful
Posted by: haha | January 31, 2007 01:44 PM
A new Congress convened just this month yet all the talk about politics is focused on the 2008 presidential race. When did our government cease to consist of 3 branches and reduce itself to one? It seems the media is setting up a major distraction to keep people from realizing the apathy that our government is going to display over the next two years. Democrats are in the pocket of big business just as much as the Republicans and the media knows it. Demand accountability from your politicians. Don't let them become complacent because we are 22 months from a presidential election!
Posted by: misdirecting the masses | January 31, 2007 01:49 PM
It's about time. Fox "News" is clearly a branch of the republican party, run by Roger Ailes, a man who worked for Reagan & Bush Sr. The American public, the MSM and the Democratic party need to quit treating Fox "News" like they are actually a news outlet. The democratic members of congress should refuse to even appear on Fox "News" and should clearly state why. They are not a news outlet, they are a propaganda and misinformation tool, owned and operated by the republican party. You know, like the MSM.
Posted by: BushisLiar | January 31, 2007 01:51 PM
Obama is already fighting an uphill battle because he is an African American and not to mention, he has an Islamic sounding name. So, it was only a matter of time until FOX news would run a story like that. Now, opponents to Obama can either say he is a terrorist or a cry baby all because FOX news, the propaganda machine that it is, did not check their facts and just wanted to show a sexy, controversial story that villifies a good man. Hopefully, he is a man of character and will never talk to FOX news until they give him a formal apology.
Posted by: rhinosaurus | January 31, 2007 01:51 PM
FNC is nothing but a proaganda station. So I don't think by going on Fox News Barack Obama would change anything. The people who watch Fox News have already decided.
Posted by: lowen | January 31, 2007 01:51 PM
Since Fox News is just a mouthpiece and propaganda vehicle for the right wing of the Republican party, then why not freeze these faux journalists out? I believe the entire Democratic Party should boycott Fox and never appear on the network, if they want to be a Republican noise machine, then the Democrats should not play along at all.
Posted by: Joseph Palermo | January 31, 2007 01:55 PM
Centrist Texas Dem, SteveG.
If it was run by arab muslims when he was there, the school was a 'madrassah', even if it taught no religion, only secular subjects. Madrassah is just the arabic word for school.
The way the press use it suggests it has a specific meaning: training camp for infant prototerrorists. It does not have this meaning, and our failure to point this out just means we are descending further with the labelling hysterics.
Posted by: Michael Houghton | January 31, 2007 01:57 PM
Way to go, Barack! This is actually very good news and could serve as a template for other middle-of-the-road and progressive politicians. Fox is NOT a news channel, as has been proven time and again. It is a propaganda organ for extreme right-wing interests. Time to recognize that and take appropriate steps to exclude it from any serious engagement with the issues. Let them just continue to spew their hatred away from the mainstream.
Posted by: Gary Morris | January 31, 2007 02:01 PM
The Fox audience is not Obama's audience. The Fox audience is a freak show at best.
Posted by: fitz | January 31, 2007 02:01 PM
Maybe Fox ought to try being an actual news network, instead of a right-wing propaganda megaphone.
Posted by: Donna | January 31, 2007 02:02 PM
FOX News should be ashamed of their bogus story about the Obama "madrassa story". They should apoligize ON AIR, not simply by private phone calls. The Daly Show is more of a legitmate news source than FOX News!
Posted by: rfout | January 31, 2007 02:02 PM
I think ALL Democrats and thinking people should refuse to go on that potty station FOX.
But my learned guess is that when Roger Aisles gives Obama a BIG FAT CHECK, Obama will go back on the station.
THAT is the "written" apology Obama is alluding to.
Posted by: Citizen | January 31, 2007 02:04 PM
I am somewhat amazed and disconcerted that people still believe FNC is fair and balanced or that CNN or MSNBC are even close to being real news organiztions. They're all part of the newsshowbusiness trend that are NOT liberal nor fair in any sense of the word. So perhaps, like for many of us, news will have to come from other sources.
Posted by: Luisa | January 31, 2007 02:10 PM
John Dooshy said the story was "HUUUUGE!!"
Kinda like the way Bush says it when he looks at the package of ANOTHER fake "reporter",
"Jeff Gannon".
Bush, Cheney and PNAC are TRAITORS to the USA.
So is Fox "news".
Burn in hell, Bush, Cheney, PNAC and Fox...
Posted by: Arn Gunnutes | January 31, 2007 02:14 PM
Big deal! How many times was Kerry on Fox? HIllary? Bill? Gore? Wow, only one got to be President so far. Lucky for them the softball questions only come from the networks with the "B"'s and the "C"'s in their names. They serve good kool-aid on those shows, though!
Posted by: LennyL | January 31, 2007 02:15 PM
It might have been clarified already, but Obama is Christian, not Muslim. He lived in Indonesia, which is predominantly Muslim and attended a public school at which most students were Muslin, but he is a practicing Christian. The only elected federal official that is a practicing Muslim is Keith Ellison D-MN.
Posted by: Cameron | January 31, 2007 02:18 PM
The sad part in this is the story hasn't gone away. It's now making the rounds of the Internet email forwards, much like the religious "You're not Christian if you don't forward this on" emails we get so many of. And that's the danger in this: that information "reported" as fact is now being waved by the right wing nut jobs and passed around as fact to people who probably never heard Fox retract the story. I got one of those emails before I saw this story, so that's proof enough.
We are on the express train to hell because so few people exercise common sense and the ability to think for themselves.
Posted by: Karen | January 31, 2007 02:19 PM
NEWT
Posted by: Sunshine48 | January 31, 2007 02:20 PM
Fox news isn't seen by "half" the country, as one poster posted. It has a tiny audience, about a million or two. Compared to all the other networks, they only have a tiny share of the American audience.
Who cares about Fox? Only rednecks and ignorant fools.
Posted by: americanpatriot | January 31, 2007 02:21 PM
www.newshounds.us is an excellent website that has been chronicling Fox News' bias for a few years now.
I think if all Democrats shut out Fox News, it would send a strong signal and make it more difficult for reporters working there. I think the advertiser boycott would be effective if we can coordinate it. The vast majority of Fox News' ever-shrinking audience would never vote for a Democrat anyways.
Posted by: LiberalFreak | January 31, 2007 02:22 PM
It's good to see that someone (Obama) is standing up to the creeps at Faux 'News'. It's increasingly frustrating to hear the garbage that Fox tries to pass off as news, and to hear the trashtalk of their on-air personalities (Van Susterin vs. Cooper).
Posted by: John McD | January 31, 2007 02:23 PM
Rupert Murdoch created Fox News with one objective. Create a "news" organization based on the lowest common demoninator. Then again, that can be said of the entire Fox network.
Posted by: dcguy | January 31, 2007 02:26 PM
Good for him. Fox News will do nothing to support a minority DemocratIC candidate. They will glad twist and distort without regard to any effort at objectivity. I would like to see more public officials refuse to cooperate with Faux News.
Posted by: Steady | January 31, 2007 02:26 PM
To obamabeenlyin,
Only a moron would call other people "braindead" moron liberals and spell psyche with a y on the end instead of an e. I know it was probably the liberal press that made you skip English classes. Also, "braindead" is two words. I guess that's why Obama scares you wingnuts so badly that you just flat make up things about him. You know he's a lot smarter.
Posted by: bradb | January 31, 2007 02:27 PM
Great! Keep them smearing with faux news. Who cares. Barak Obama has class and dignity and knows O'Reilly and all the other liars don't matter. He's a genius! only the boneheads watch it and they will never vote for him anyway.
Posted by: groucho | January 31, 2007 02:28 PM
'one Fox journalist said, noting that the people at Fox "suffering the most did nothing wrong."'
Oh boo hoo! Life is so unfair to innocent little FAUX journalists.
Listen here FAUX stenographers, if you work for FAUX, you are guilty! That includes your token Liberal boy, Alan Squeeky Mouse.
Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA | January 31, 2007 02:35 PM
All Democrats should freeze out the Fox News propaganda network. They are the favored "News Network" for the neocon hate-spewing radical right. Let Fox News live in their neocon Rebublican American fantasy world void of truth.
Posted by: peace | January 31, 2007 02:38 PM
Fox isn't the only news org. taken over by fascist idiots. The AP routinely leaves out key facts to sway the meaning of their stories. The LA Times was recently taken over by more sycophantic ReThuglican jerks, and ABC has turned into joke with their blatant progaganda piece about Clinton and Osama..airing as a 'documentary'. There is very little truly liberal media.
I've always thought that FOX stood for "Fascists on Xstacy" ..
Posted by: PropagandaBoy | January 31, 2007 02:39 PM
The smear was absolutely no accident. It's SOP for fox. Now, I'm not saying Hillary had anything to do with it, but Obama is more of a threat to her than to the GOP, which could probably be beaten by a ham sandwich at this point. Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News, knows that perfectly well. So he supports Hillary Clinton. As well as McCain, for good measure. What? Yes, you heard me right.
http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=11605
Posted by: priscianus jr | January 31, 2007 02:39 PM
ALL of the MSM outlets are biased. ALL of the mass media are run by major corporations who put ratings and entertainment value over the truth. CBS and the New York Times slant as far to the left as Fox slants to the right. Who is attacking CBS and NYT for THEIR bias???
People can make up their own minds. We are not sheep, and we don't need government to police the airwaves and determine what is and what isn't fit for human consumption. The last thing we need is state-run media....
Posted by: Libertarian | January 31, 2007 02:40 PM
"John Moody, vice president for news at Fox, issued this missive to staff in his daily editorial note on Jan. 23: "For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC. The urgent queue is our way of communicating information that is air-worthy. Please adhere to this."
It seems strange that after years of trolling websites, and isolating particular statements,( as most of the pulpit brigade does), Fox sends out a "missive" aimed at having the news writers behave as journalists. Why not hire a REAL journalist at Faux news ?
Posted by: lylenews | January 31, 2007 02:41 PM
Fox News = America's fetid bloated underbelly
Posted by: Maria | January 31, 2007 02:44 PM
to steve tarkington.......you are so naive by thinking the war will stop if we elect that bozo obama.this shows that you dont understand the enemy we are facing THEY ARE ISLAMOFASCISTS....ISLAMOFASCISTS
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 02:46 PM
Just how many Fox viewers would vote for Obama anyway?
Posted by: JV | January 31, 2007 02:48 PM
"Fox News journalist"? That's the biggest oxymoron of all. Why can't the rest of the media just come up and admit that Fox is a right-wing propaganda arm and makes not efforts to be either fair or balanced?
Turn this one over the Post ombudsman: I want to know why WashPo continues to pretend Fox is a real news organization.
Posted by: elvis | January 31, 2007 02:50 PM
I get my news from Comedy Central, and my comedy from Fox News
Posted by: Roger Ailes | January 31, 2007 02:50 PM
I certainly support "Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out."
Posted by: DaveP | January 31, 2007 02:51 PM
KEN ...NAME THESE QUALITIES THAT BOZO OBAMA HAS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.I TELL YOU THE LIBERAL MEDIA BRAINWASHED YOU ALREADY.DONT LET THEM THINK FOR YOU BUILD YOUR OWN OPINION.THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF HAVING FREEDOM TO VOTE.
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 02:51 PM
Bush, Cheney, the PNAC and Fox "news" are the REAL TERRORISTS.
Libby is on trial for PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION of an investigation of outing a CIA OPERATIVE and the company she worked for, Brewster Jennings.
TRAITOR Bush et al could CARE LESS about the USA or "national security", especially after exposing the CIA spy and her company
who SPECIALIZED in keeping tabs of WMD activity in IRAN.
Bush, Cheney, etc., need to be tried, convicted, and sent to Gitmo for life.
God will send them to hell from there.
God Bless America and the WORLD!
Posted by: Arn Gunnutes | January 31, 2007 02:52 PM
A true conservative with intellectual capacity would be just as disappointed in the way Fox presents the "news" as any liberal or moderate.
It is not opinion but honesty that is in question.
Posted by: Heybub | January 31, 2007 02:54 PM
Having seen what passes for news on Fox networks (disgraceful, even by the standards of american network TV), all I can say is that no reporter or other staff person working for Fox has any right to complain if a public figure refuses to speak with them. I personally would refuse to shake their hands if introduced.
There are lots more worthy things to do with one's life than waste it working for the spiritual heirs of P. T. Barnum.
Posted by: a cross-country canuck | January 31, 2007 02:58 PM
Karl Kameron (KKK) is so far right that he goes around calling average Americans Socialists. My method of preventing Fox Noise from contaminating my brain with propaganda and inacurrate "information" is to put a parental lock on the Fox Noise Channel. It has done wonders for my blood pressure, and keeps burn in off my plasma tv.
Posted by: Jerry Sneirson | January 31, 2007 02:59 PM
Oh boo hoo crybabies, Fox News is picking on Obama and reporting a lie. Welcome to a conservatives world. The MSM do the same thing day in and day out to Republicans and you guys buy it hook, line & sinker. How do you like it now? FOX RULES!
Posted by: supermom | January 31, 2007 03:00 PM
I am glad that Obama is saying no. He should go further and make the rounds of the Air America and mainstream shows explaining why.
Posted by: Good | January 31, 2007 03:02 PM
HEY MIKE.....CNN,ABC,CBS AND NBC ARE ALL DEMOCRATS PARTY PROPAGANDA.....WHY YOU ARE SCARED OF FOX?IS IT BECAUSE THEY ARE FAIR AND BALANCED OR BECAUSE THEY DONT BRAINWASH YOU FOR WHOM TO VOTE....BE A MAN ..LISTEN TO ALL AND BUILD YOUR OWN OPINION DONT LET MORONS THINK FOR YOU .
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 03:03 PM
"Obamahater" above writes: "This guy is a joke if he thinks he can still contend in the '08 Presidential race without utilizing all networks. Especially Fox's, whose rating equal about CNN and MSNBC combined. The spotlight has gone straight to his head. "
You've obviously determined that you think he's a joke regardless--your name says it all.
What I want to know is, seriously, what could this guy have possibly done to deserve your hate? He is a young politician who by all accounts on either side of the aisle is classy, intelligent and personable.
If you hate the guy simply because you disagree with his politics, then that says more about you than him.
PS: you have cause to actually hate someone if they intentionally do things that are malicious to you or those you love. Ergo, I hate Bush and many in his administration...
Posted by: whodoyahate? | January 31, 2007 03:03 PM
"Bring back the 'equal time provision' on our public airwaves (we own them remember)"
If this happened CBS,NBC,ABC,CNN,PBS and MSNBC would be "snow" on my TV.
Posted by: Al Gore | January 31, 2007 03:05 PM
"Obama is wrong. If he actually finds real journalists at Fox, he SHOULD talk to them." Posted by editorsteve
He's going to have a helluva time trying to find a journalist at FOX. They are all TV hosts, no journalists anywhere near that network.
Wouldn't it be amazing if others followed suit and FOX struggled to get interviews with prospective candidates? It would never happen, but it's a thought.
Posted by: BroadwayCarl | January 31, 2007 03:07 PM
Alot of FOX haters but apparent viewers TOO on here today!!
Posted by: 1 of 537 Floridians | January 31, 2007 03:09 PM
I am amazed at the venom being spewed on this board. Fox news does lean to the right but why is that so bad? All other news outlets are very liberal, i.e. NYTimes, Wash.Post, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS So, why can't we have news that covers both angles? Everyone posting here seems so afraid that someone will have an opinion that is different than theirs. It is healthy to look at all sides of an issue or a persons background and personality. Lighten up everyone. Quit the name calling. Listen to your neighbor. You might learn something.
Posted by: averagecitizen | January 31, 2007 03:14 PM
DEMOCRATS DONT GO TO FOX BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED OF HARD QUESTIONS.....PURE AND SIMLE.
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 03:15 PM
Fox news is not legitimate. Senator Obama is doing the right thing.
Posted by: Ev | January 31, 2007 03:15 PM
Didn't Dan Rather get fired due to something similar to this? Fox is a big joke! They aren't going to give Obama, Hillary or any other Democract a fair or balanced report. The Muslim story was "playing the terrorism card". They played the race card about three weeks ago when although they were talking abot a sex offender they had the video in the back showing Obama supporters carrying Obama signs. Fox is a joke and we really should have some recourse other than to turn them off. Most of us have done that anyway. Fox is no more than the media department for the RNC. What idiots. When the current President needed a PR person, where did you get Tony Snow from???? I rest my case.
Posted by: Jmac | January 31, 2007 03:16 PM
"One source familiar with the dynamic between Fox and Obama, who asked not to be named, said Obama and his staff are in for a rude awakening if they think they can write off Fox News. If a candidate is serious about running for president, he or she is going to need a network like Fox to reach out to all those voters in the red and purple states, the source said."
News Flash to Fox.
THE RUDE AWAKENING IS Those that watch FOX are so few and far between, that it will not make one bit of difference to anyone.
Get Real FOX! Seriously, your not making money.Face the facts.
Though, it's so typical of FOX to make a statement like the one above. Who are they kidding? Obviously, themselves.
FOX IS IN THE TANK. Has not been a source for legitimate news in sooo long.Have they forgotten that? Maybe they should check their ratings again. Wow, they are delusional to think that have any power over anything, except making the world see just how rediculous they really are.
They make up so called news , and do not expect to have repercussions? Yet they actually are threatening to an extent, future coverage of the presidential election on their waves? Now that is funny. Where do these people come from anyway? Oh never mind, I do not want to know.
F.O.X. must stand for,
Flaky
Offensive
Xenophobics
Posted by: ISOG | January 31, 2007 03:17 PM
Guess what, morons? Even many of you who are trying to defend Obama have missed the very important point that he is not, in fact, a Muslim at all. Not that there is anything wrong with ordinary Muslims, per se. But Obama is a card carrying long time member of the United Church of Christ. Sheesh.
Posted by: Scout | January 31, 2007 03:18 PM
Seems to me some people who have posted here have been watching Faux News so long they really have their heads screwed up. If the MSM has a liberal bias, maybe it's because the TRUTH HAS A LIBERAL BIAS. On the other hand Fox has a HOGWASH BIAS. Their reporting on Obama is just the latest example of that.
Posted by: Kotka | January 31, 2007 03:21 PM
TO AVERAGE CITIZEN......VERY WELL SAID.THESE HATERS SHOULD KNOW THT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND THEY SHOULD RESPECT THEM.
Posted by: | January 31, 2007 03:25 PM
Doocy squealing "This is HUGH!", like a little girl, did a whole lot for Fox's image.
If there was any doubt about Doocy's sexuality he cleared that doubt up with his little girl squeal.
Could he have sounded any more gay?
Posted by: Arliss | January 31, 2007 03:25 PM
To Scout: The point of the story is that it was false. It doesn't matter whether he is Muslim, Jew, Christian or Mormon.
To averagecitizen: Other outlets are "very liberal"? and you include ABC? What about "Path to 9/11"? Was that a liberal point of view? It's not the fact that FOX is conservative. I would welcome a conservative, HONEST view. FOX is not honest by a longshot. Subliminally inserting "Osama" at the bottom of their screen instead of "Obama", not fact checking their madrassah story and then blaming the the leak on Clinton camp to try and kill two birds with one stone does not constitute news. It's a TV version of the National Inquirer.
Posted by: BroadwayCarl | January 31, 2007 03:31 PM
Steve Douchey, another of Fox's towering intellects, seems more like Roger Ailes' lapdog than a real human being.
I expect him to sit up with his tongue hanging out waiting to be petted by someone--anyone--after each of his inane remarks and opinions.
How anyone with half a brain can give credence to "Pravda-USA" has never made any sense to me. And for Democrats to continue to legitimize this hateful "news" channel is even more baffling.
Posted by: mauiloa | January 31, 2007 03:34 PM
Wow, there's nothing like nameless dips at Fox News overstating their relevance to the actual news cycle. I am sure these same nameless spokespeople would say Fox's decline in viewers isnt real. Oh, and its moronic to think, as the one Fox spokesperson implied, that Obama would need exposure on Fox to make up ground on being 20 points down... Considering those polls are for among those likely to vote in Democratic primaries. Now consider what number of those voters get their news from Fox. Yeah, zero sounds close to reality.
Posted by: corbett | January 31, 2007 03:35 PM
Dear Foxnews morons,
Barack
Obama
Is
Not
A
Muslim
Idiots.
Posted by: Bugman | January 31, 2007 03:45 PM
Hey Corbett - who you callin' a nameless dip?
Watch it, or I'll sick my gay servants from FOX & FIENDS (Brian Pleasekillme and Steve Douchebag) on ya!!
We'll get rid of you just like we did that lush V.D. Hill and her 48 kids by 10 different drunken sailors.
Posted by: Darth Ailes | January 31, 2007 03:49 PM
To the same idiot who keeps responding in all caps: We all think you're kind of stupid because you don't realize how to turn the caps lock button off of your computer. Your lack of coherant comments just add to this belief. Perhaps it's years of being unable to fix the blinking "12:00" on your DVD player that's making you crazy.
Posted by: eecummings | January 31, 2007 03:50 PM
fox only pretends to be news. actually, it's a mix of crass commercialism and fear-mongering anti-intellectual conservatism. (whoops, is that redundant?)
Posted by: meuphys | January 31, 2007 12:13 AM
No meuphys it's retarded.
Posted by: franktech | January 31, 2007 03:54 PM
Just adds fuel to the fire that Hillary will destroy all her competition any way possible. I sure hope Obama does not get alone with Hillary and end up like poor old Vince Foster did.
Posted by: Retro Ranger | January 31, 2007 03:55 PM
I am amused at those people who see a clear bias in the Fox News Channel and yet consider ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times, NPR, and many other mainstream media outlets to be middle of the road or "fair and balanced."
I fully agree that there is a right-leaning bias in FNC (and Washington Times, and New York Post). But you're in denial if you can't admit an opposite bias in all those other outlets.
But that's the problem. Libs always think they're the norm.
Posted by: Dream Out Loud | January 31, 2007 03:56 PM
To StephenG and all the other Fox bashers,
Please shut up with your "right slanted", inaccurate reporting crap. I have just one thing to ask, Do you remember Dan Rather's report about Bush's National Guard service? If you believe that wasn't propagand, left leaning and inept reporting then you are a blind, partisan fool.
Posted by: franktech | January 31, 2007 03:58 PM
The demographic of average Faux News viewers is in the 70 year old angry Caucasian. Not sure Obama needs a lot of them. It should come as no surprise that FNC is passing along smears that can be easily checked out, now that their party is in the minority in Congress.
Posted by: Richard | January 31, 2007 03:58 PM
I must respond to Lynn.....please get your facts straight. Barack Obama did not hide any info about his schooling...it has been proven that the school he attended was NOT a madrazzah, and he is NOT a Muslim. Your comments echo the exact manipulations that we see on Fox.
Posted by: elbo | January 31, 2007 03:58 PM
To SteveG :
Obama's school registration records from Asisi Primary School in Indonesia list his religion as Islam.
Further, Several of Obama's classmates including Emirsyah Satar the CEO of Garuda Indonesia Airlines describe a young Obama as a very religious and devout Muslim.
Posted by: mr | January 31, 2007 04:04 PM
Bushco froze out everyone else but Fox when they first came in. Fox is just getting a bit of a come uppance.
Fox viewership is dropping rapidly and they should realize it's time to become a real news organization, not an artificially propped up wing of the conservatives. It's time to stop these targeted hits.
Posted by: Dons Blog | January 31, 2007 04:05 PM
Fox staff CHOSE not to go to Indonesia to get the facts. Lets be clear. This was not an error of omission. This was a DELIBERATE DECISION to run a story without the BASIC CRITERIA of checking facts. At best .... it is incompentent journalism at every level. It was left to other organizations to invest the $$ to get a non story!!! Which is really the point. Obama can say from here forward that Fox has a history of incompetent journalism. It is cheap and easy to report a headline. It is costlier and harder to get real information that may not be worthy of a headline. Fox News chose the former style of journalism. America needs the latter. Dan Rather lost his job for not being able to spot a forgery. What senior person has lost their job at Fox simply by not requiring basic fact checking?
Posted by: AL | January 31, 2007 04:09 PM
If John Kerry had reacted in the way Obama has, to the slanderous attack on his military record he might be President now.
In addition, the right-wing online press includes Obama's middle name of Hussein when they discuss him.
They will stop at nothing. They are the masters of 'truthiness'.
Posted by: Thalia | January 31, 2007 04:10 PM
Does anyone really believe the Hillary Clinton camp would go to www.insight.com of all places to discredit Obama? The story was bull from the getgo.
Posted by: Come on now | January 31, 2007 04:11 PM
Fox is still by far and away number 1.A year from now Fox will still be number.And everyone will be saying obama who???
Posted by: ohlib | January 31, 2007 04:13 PM
Go Barack Obama! Push back! Faux Nothing No News is not worth a waste of breath. Take a stand.
Posted by: Paddy | January 31, 2007 04:13 PM
I'm an register Independent who hasn't watched FNC in years. Common sense told me not to waste my time watching crappy people feed others crap. It's amazing to read the many Dems who actually spend precious time listening to these liars and fake journalists.
Plain and simple...BOYCOTT the network, watch a cartoon instead.
Posted by: nojoke | January 31, 2007 04:15 PM
I'm an register Independent who hasn't watched FNC in years. Common sense told me not to waste my time watching crappy people feed others crap. It's amazing to read the many Dems who actually spend precious time listening to these liars and fake journalists.
Plain and simple...BOYCOTT the network, watch a cartoon instead.
Posted by: nojoke | January 31, 2007 04:17 PM
To mr:
You provide no links to you "documentation" claims. Methinks you are F.O.S.
Here's a link that debunks your imaginary "proof":
Posted by: bugman | January 31, 2007 04:20 PM
Hey people, what's wrong with being a Muslim? Remember? This is America! I am a Christian who was brought up being taught American values- to be respectful of all religions, creeds, and colors. Why does Obama have to bend over backwards to prove he is not a Muslim? I like him whether he is is Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist or whatever. Let's come down to earth, please.
Posted by: This is America | January 31, 2007 04:20 PM
Fox isn't "news" it's "entertainment", let's not be mistaken.
Posted by: Daniel | January 31, 2007 04:25 PM
To Bugman
http://laotze.blogspot.com/index.html
He was registered as a muslim and his father and step father were muslims. I didnt say he went to a Madrassa, which is a religious school. At his school he did study Islam and the Koran. NO one is saying it was wrong to be doing that. He was in Indonesia! He just needs to be truthful about his roots and early life. Thats the point!
Posted by: mr | January 31, 2007 04:28 PM
Gosh,Now I know what you looser liberals do for fun.You get together in the evenings and send out comments to the different political commentary apparatus in exsistance such as blog sites and anybody else that think what you have got to say is of any value.Dont like FNC because they are biased well tough.The rest of the nation has had to endure your liberal pile of organic fertilizer on every TV and Radio channel for the last 50 years.
Hey whatever happened to "Radio America"? Loosers.
Posted by: Roger L Craft | January 31, 2007 04:29 PM
My guess is that Mary Ann Akers and her team are sliming Obama to help Hillary. Is this a continuation of the "madrassa" campaign?
Posted by: david | January 31, 2007 04:30 PM
Would a Fox viewer EVER vote for Obama, regardless? So what loss if Obama freezes them out permanently?
Posted by: FStreet | January 31, 2007 04:30 PM
"Plain and simple...BOYCOTT the network, watch a cartoon instead."
Fox is like realistic cartoon, badly done, like a reverse donkey show with donkeys wearing "people" suits
Watching bad TV is necessary so that you know in the quest of betterment of society what you need to change or irradiate.
m
Posted by: middle | January 31, 2007 04:31 PM
Dan Rather reported the TRUTH about AWOL coward Bush the MURDERER coxucker PUNK.
Miriam Carr Knox, Killian's secretary, said that althought SHE didn't type the papers shown her,
what the papers said was ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE and that Bush WAS a derelict and GROUNDED, and EVERYONE on the base KNEW IT.
Following the broadcast, Marian Carr Knox, who was Killian's secretary at the time, confirmed the facts of the broadcast, saying, "There's no doubt in my mind that [the] information is correct." When the panel cross-examined Knox she seemed less certain of what she had told Rather but she did not contradict any of the broadcast. Since the broadcast, no one has come forward to say the program was untruthful."
So, although the PAPERS may have been copied, the information that
BUSH WAS AN AWOL COWARD and a GROUNDED DERELICT
are TRUE.
Bush, Cheney, PNAC and all the Fox "news" crowd will have some answering to do to
GOD, for the BLOOD on their TRAITOROUS hands.
God will BURN THEM FOR ETERNITY.
THANK YOU,











Feuds between candidates and various segments of the media are usually less serious than they appear, and both sides ned each other. Of course the Fox News Network will still be there after the election, and the Obama campaign might not so Fox does have a certain advantage even though they do have their good name to consider, and if they are bottom-fishing based on the political preferences of their upper management they might want to remember their pretenses about professional newsgathering and analysis, which they can do if they choose to. And Obama does have good reason to resent the way some of the people at Fox tried to portray him as a terrorist. As you say, there are plenty of honest journalists at Fox too, who just needed the job and try their best to be professional, and I hope Obama doesn't take it out on them.