Senator Kerry, it is only **slander** if it is not true.

gtarre: so by that definition it would be slander to say that bush and cheney are patriotic veterans who shed blood for their country, correct?

tell you what, you can bring up the swift boat lies, and lewinsky even, if i can mention afghanistan and the resurgence of al qaeda, iraq and no wmds, iran emerging as a regional power, katrina, haditha, abu ghraib, global warming, the deficit, cheney's prowess with a shotgun, putin reconstituting the soviet bloc less than 5 years after bush looked into his soul, world opinion of the u.s. at its lowest level since the second world war, voter disenfranchisement and the supreme court stopping the recount, and and and...

see how it works? if i were a republican, i would be very very careful who i criticized, and about what.

It strikes me as a bit creepy that a Senator is openly squeezing an ambassadorial nominee on the floor of the Senate over the fact that that nominee harmed that Senator's personal ambitions. I know that's how the world works, but to drag those personal resentments so openly into official business just seems tawdry.

Tom T.
Check the defination of Tawdry!
I would say that's exactly a very mild explanation of what the Swift Boat ads were. Actually they were well designed lies that with enough free publicity came to be believed by the right wing.
It's interesting that "Swift Boating," has become a phrase in our lexicon to describe the act of besmirching a person's good reputation through lies. And that is slander, is it not?

The Swift Boat campaign was the lowest point in recent American political history. Here was a group that deliberately set out to spread an orchestrated set of lies about a decorated combat veteran. They greatly exaggerated their own involvement in events, grossly mischaractrerized Kerry's actions, offered NO evidence to back up most of their claims, and still managed to get taken seriously by too many of the supposedly "liberal" media.

As far as I'm concerned, everyone involved in the endeavor, whether as a creator, co-conspirator or funding source (or cheerleader, gitarre), should be deeply ashamed.

Tom T.: I wonder what your demeanor would have been if someone would have questioned your courage and service record. Any of those vets who were actively engaged with the Swift Boat campaign were star struck. At last they were able to rub shoulders with former superiors on an equal basis while they callously maligned Kerry. Who is kidding who? They know who they are and how weak willed their character is.

Kerry has been the lowest point in recent American political history. Hillary is just waiting to be next...

This Swift Boat veterans lied? JFK(2) to this day (02/28/2007) has not released his medical records. What does he need to hide? JFK(2) is not a hero but rather a fraud and he is "unfit for command". I for one am glad he is still the marginal junior senator from the peoples republic of Mass.

Swiftboating means to tell an inconvenient truth about a Democrat. When done to a Republican, it's called journalism.

Swiftboating has become a phrase because of people in the media who have a left
wing bias.

Those of us who did serve in the Armed
Forces, know there are some individuals
who use their time in service for resume enhancement. JFK2 was clearly one of those people.

It is certainly telling that John Kerry's first concern is not whether the gentleman would make a good ambassador, which is properly debatable, but rather that his nomination be used as an example to other Americans to watch their political speech, lest they risk Kerry's wrath.

Thank God this man is not President of the United States.

The facts cited in the Swiftboat ads were NEVER debunked. Kerry promised military records that he never delivered and now grinds his personal axe against his foes. When facts don't make your point, attack your opponent... typical John Kerry.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n6xbwETTBxs
So, ALL of those people, including the congressional medal of honor winner in that commercial, were lying, and JFK the opportunist was not...

Give me a break. I'm in the Navy currently and I can tell you JFK is considered a joke and an opportunist, especially the way he got his purple hearts.

No, thank the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth".

Why don't you democrat idiots explain to me where the Swift Boat vets slandered or lied about Kerry? You low-life's open your mouths and out pops hypocrisy. And also - distance yourself from "global warming." I know there is not one democrat that has any responisbility for that myth.

Kerry proves once again that he is not limited by moral certitude. This is an abject abuse of his purview. He is'ent qualified to be bog catcher much less a senator.

Very happy to see that the people denouncing J Fn Kerry far outnumber those how believe the liberal mantra. Gives me hope the country hasn't slipped to down the slope.

JFK sign Form 180

Kerry lied...and Kerry cried

so sorry

This is incredible. Kerry doesn't attend the entire hearing and only wanders in at the last minute and acts like a spoiled little child. None of the questions were geared towards how this gentleman would act as an ambassador of our country, but whether or not he contributed to an organization that exposed him to be the faker he is. This sounds like a whiney little cry-baby who takes someone at a point where they are unable to answer to his accusations properly, and he then bullies this poor guy in front of everyone. With every breath and word from Kerry, I am more glad that he didn't get elected. As for the SBV being liars and telling lies...they only one who has NOT said they were lying was Kerry himself. He has yet to call their accusations lies, and while they have presented reems of facts concerning their accusations, Kerry has yet to provide anything to prove them wrong. Typical Liberal bully...it is all they know how to do.

While Kerry may have been frustrated by the swift boat ads, he could have put the issue to rest by releasing the records and letting the world see the truth. The longer he refuses to open the books, the bigger the cloud over his head.

I for one am glad I did not have to see his "leadership" in action.

The only candidate I saw worse than JK was AG but not to fear HC is coming.

John, all you have to do is let us see your Military records which you promised to do many moons ago. So far we have seen nothing what are you afraid of??? Everyone knows the truth hurts.

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The Swift Boat campaign was a forewarning of times to come. Malicious and violent attacks with the sole purpose to destroy a perceived enemy...without letting anything like evidence, morals, dignity, ethics, legality, or justice get in the way. The current Bush administration, like the Swift Boat campaign, knows right from wrong and it hasn't stopped it so far.

meuphys:

afghanistan and the resurgence of al qaeda-do they have complete control of the country?
iraq and no wmds-who said this quote:" "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."Jan. 23. 2003, iran emerging as a regional power - Jimmy Carter's indecisiveness....404 days..., katrina - Yes, Bush can control hurricanes... and he couldn't immediately send in the National Guard because the Gov of LA wouldn't let him (otherwise it would be unconstitutional and you would throw a hissy fit),
haditha - how many soldier have been found guilty? and Bush is responsible. I think you just hate your military, maybe you should leave America?,
abu ghraib - are you going to blame this on Bush or just Rummy?,
global warming - you really believe this? evidently Al Gore doesn't: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/27/D8NIGG3O0.html, the deficit - i think we already have a welfare state....,
cheney's prowess with a shotgun - hmm...?, putin reconstituting the soviet bloc less than 5 years after bush looked into his soul - what would clinton have done? let Sandy Berger take care of it?,
world opinion of the u.s. at its lowest level since the second world war - sometimes there are differences between what is the right action and what people want, ask a drug addict who wants you to buy him drugs,
voter disenfranchisement and the supreme court stopping the recount - grow up seriously that was 8 years ago....,

This is all well and good, but Bush is still a deserter, and Cheney a chicken hawk.

Boo Hoo John Kerry. Maybe Kerry should fire Theresa "The Mouth Heinz-Kerry too. Wait, that would cut him off from Theresa's money she inherited from her GOP husband.

You swiftboat supporters are disgusting examples of unpatriotic twits who deep down don't give a hoot about "supporting the troops." I suppose you thought wearing purple heart band-aides at the 2004 republican national convention was "tawdry" too??? Hardcore wingers are sick and twisted people.

The day after John Kerry lost his election bid to be President he walks into his favorite bar. The bartender looks at him and says, "hey, why the long face?"

Now that Kerry is out of the 2008 contest, the only soapbox on which he can listen to the sound of his own voice is a committee hearing for a supposedly easy confirmation vote for ambassador. Kerry should not be so upset that this man was out to see him lose. Over half the country wanted Kerry to lose, hence the eventual loss in November. The high ground should have been taken by the senator.

I guess if I had received three purple hearts for paper cuts and boo-boos I wouldn't be willing to release my medical records, either.

All's fair in love and politics. Swiftboating is hardly a new sport and Kerry's not the 1st victim although he'd like you to believe he's the ONLY victim. With all JK's recent screw-ups, it's amazing that anything Kerry is news today. Can we move on already please?

Ironic that Kerry would invoke McCain, who's campaign finance reform ushered in 527's in the first place. Could it be that McCain's disdain for 527's, including the Swiftvet's, is rooted in the knowledge that he is guilty for their prominence? I suspect that McCain was secretly supportive of the Swiftees. How could he not be considering he personally suffered at the hands of anti-war weanies such as Kerry? But he had to maintain his "above the fray" persona for the above reason. I for one can't imagine Kerry not vigorously and promptly taking on the Vets in a high-profile manner if they were such obvious liars. That would have been a great opportunity for him to look really good, for free! Unfortunately I don't think he was able to respond, because he knew they were right. He simply didn't have the truth on his side and so lacked the ability to credibly return fire. His best bet was to scream "LIAR", and change the subject.

Oh...and by the way...did you guys know Kerry served in Vietnam? Just long enough to valiantly shoot that unarmed adolescant boy in the back while he was running away. It was just as brave an act as attacking this poor guy about his contributing to an organization that exposed Kerry's lies in a forum where the guy was unprepared and the questions were out of line. Maybe Kerry and Gore will divorce their wives, become room mates and start a raving lunatic failed Presidential campaign club together. I see a new "South Park" episode brewing already. "Manbearpig is coming...run for your lives!!! I'm serial!!!"

"Kerry walked in at the tail end of the hearing, which was being chaired by 2008 contender Sen. Barack Obama(D-Ill.)"

Interesting that Kerry, who has much more seniority than Obama, didn't chair the hearing. Also interesting that he didn't bother to show up until the hearing was almost over to add his two cents.

Kerry isn't a leader, and he's lazy, to boot. The Democrats might have won in 2004 if they put up someone other that him

thank God Kerry WAS "swift boated". He is a hypocrite who only joined the military in the first place to enhance his resume. Of course, I am only a dumb veteran.

If the Swift Boat ads were proven lies the Kerry Campaign, under laws wihich existed then and now, could have had the ads pulled. Kerry's campaign at first did not evern respond, then responded weakly.

Again, if you could have ads that lie pulled off the TV why then were those ads not? And why, if they were lies has the Kerry Campaign or John Kerry Personaly not gone after the group since then in court. They are able to do both under the law.

Calling political ads "The low point in American Politics" is ridiculous since every election cycle brings new ads. What you truly mean to say is that those ads, hurt a candidate you liked, end of story.

>The Swift Boat campaign was the lowest point in recent American political history.

It's really quite subjective, but I think the anti-Allen campaign in 2006 may have been lower.

Don't know what's worse...Kerry or the teenage bubble-gummer who wrote this article. Pathetic!

Wow, way to go Fox!

http://www.americanlegends.blogspot.com

It's obvious to any sentient voter that Kerry Haters support their brain dead president more than they actually support the troops.

So sorry to the Nation for John Kerry. Just can't seem to find a replacement! HELP!
Same for Ted Kennedy...

I can't believe that Fox tried to weasel out of a noble effort that saved our country and our military from being led by a traitor. A weak spined person like that does not deserve to be a representative of the U.S. (Traitor is defined as someone who gives "aid and comfort" to the enemy in a time of war. It's specifically defined in the Constitution, you can look it up.) There also was overwhelming evidence that Kerry basically obtained some or all of his medals fraudently. Kerry is yet to permit having his military file opened for public scrutiny. There was much, much more, but no room to go into it all here.
Fox should have said, "I willingly contributed to the Swift Vets campaign because I believe they told the truth. I have nothing to add."

While I don't condone either side, the questions asked by Kerry do bring up a very interesting point. Fox contributed money to an organization that was outside the scope of the party (ie 527) without full knowledge of what he was giving to. Heck, when the Fraternal Order of Police, March of Dimes, etc. call me at home they tell me where the money is going. My point is simply this, either Fox lied and he knew what he was giving to, or he will do anything so long as you say its for the GOP. Personally, I want a person who can think for himself as an ambassador

Boo Hoo Senator Blue Blood! Kerry has proven himself to be an effective debater. The more question is whether he's forthcoming and truthful, something he's not quite come to terms with in addressing the Swift Boater's claims.

Oh, and I'm surprised the story didn't mention what political causes Mr. Thurston Howell III and his wife "Lovey" spend on their political causes....Hmmm?

Kerry is am absolute embarrasment! Even with all the unions twisting arms, convicts and dead people voting democrat he still couldn't beat BUSH!!! I know you democrats pray every night that america will be defeated in Iraq. This is why you will NEVER again fool the public into electing a dem for president!

"It's interesting that "Swift Boating," has become a phrase in our lexicon to describe the act of besmirching a person's good reputation through lies..."

Like "Borking" someone? Hum, didn't hear all you criers complaining when Robert Bork was dragged through the mud, led by John Kerry himself!

What goes around comes around... the difference here is that what was said about Kerry was actually true!

Kerry's questions continue to underscore his pettiness and self-centeredness. Essentially he's using this nomination hearing to whine, "Why don't you like me?" Kerry needs to toughen-up because he's coming across as a crybaby. Unless he is willing to engage in a two-way dialogue with Fox about his donations and the swift boat accusations, which would not have been appropriate in this forum, Kerry would have been wise to stay away from this topic. I'm not certain that he realizes that he should be embarrassed about his military history... for a number of reasons. So it won't help to dig this back up at every opportunity in an attempt to patch back together his tattered record. I recommend that he needs to retire and live off of his sugar mamma's condiment fortune. That way he will stop sabotaging his political party.

there are a lot of really dimwitted conservatives in this thread.

John Kerry is perhaps one of the greatest (albeit failed) opportunists in history...but let's talk about how the article is framed. This is decidedly pro-Kerry, anti-Fox reporting. How does the "reporter" know the intent of the Swift Boat Vets? Is it not just possible their intent was to let the real record be known? rather than to depend on the word of Sen Kerry, who was "in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts" (Audie Murphy would be proud); three purple hearts and no limp...all minor wounds; he used the purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the end of what would have been his normal tour; when he found he couldn't get elected dog-catcher as a "War Hero" did a Hanoi Jane turnaround and admitted to atrocities committed during his four month long stint in Viet Nam.

Hmmmm....makes one wonder - about what the people of Massachusetts are smoking!!

Just once I'd like to see a Republican screw up some courage and reply that "yes I donated to and supported the Swift Boat veterans because you (Kerry) were and continue to be a phony ticket punching war hero wanna be. You have not released your service records as you promised to refute the charges. Instead, you and your buddies in liberal media attack the messenger becasue the Swift Boat Veterans are right. Worse, once you came back to the USA you locked arms with the traitor Jane Fonda and stabbed your fellow veterans in the back for left wing political gain knowing full well that the left worships the ultimate in traitors - ex military turning left wing." As a pround donor to the honorable Swift Boat veterans in 04' that would be my response.

To those who compares "swiftboating" with what Kerry just did (like Arminda above) - let me show you the difference. Swift boat veterans expressed their PRIVATE opinion, as PRIVATE citizens engaged in a political discussion, and the answers to the questions they asked were highly relevant. Kerry attacked a person as a US SENATOR, using his official position for a personal vendetta - where it was in no way relevant to the work performance of the candidate.

As for the "lies" of the Swift Boat veterans - you are free to point to any of them. I saw a lot of accusations of lies, but nothing even remotely proved. All the "refutations" I saw - were just denials by Kerry. His word, however, we can't take at face value for two reasons:

1. There are few lies of his that are proven. Most famously - the "Christmas in Cambodia" lie.

2. His refusal to sign 180 form and release his war records held in the archives to the public. He promised to do that, but only released partial records, not the archived part and only to the sympathetic newspaper.

Until he does what he promised - as a caught lier, he has no standing to blame anyone.

We owe more to those who served than to throw stones without even examining the moral implications. This is the opportunistic exploitation of a veteran who put his very life on the line to serve our country, and reveals the hypocrisy of fauz patriots. The same hypocrisy has led to poorly run hospitals for vets and inadequate mental health services for them . Lick your lips if you will, but you are doing so at the expense of a combat veteran, whose service should be held in higher esteem than the shirkers Fox helped.

Daughter of a POW who served in two wars

A party that allows George Soros to contribute millions to an attack group such as Moveon.org as well as fund and distribute a movie by a lying fat, bloated anti-American Jabba the Hut wannabe labeled as a documentary that was full of lies, half-truths and misinformation while not once telling them to stop or speaking out against what those people were saying or doing hardly has any leg to stand on when it comes to speaking out against the real soldiers who fought and were actually wounded in Vietnam...serving out their entire service time without taking an easy out or putting in for their own Purple Hearts for minor "injuries" in order to leave after 3 months and calling themselves heroes for shooting an unarmed child in the back after chasing him down. You people are all hypocrites that support Kerry and denounce the SBV. They offered proof and facts. Moron.org offers ad hominem attacks and post videos comparing and calling Bush "Hitler" and worse. This is why no one takes you seriously. You didn't win in November, the Republicans lost. If you can't understand what that statement means, then you should stay home in 2008. Oh, and since there has been no proof that Bush deserted other than a "False and fake but accurate" forged document...your saying that he is a deserter means nothing. Calling Cheney a draft dodger also shows your blatant hypocrisy seeing as how you guys worshipped at the alter of Clinton...who not only dodged the draft while smoking dope, but actively protested against our country and spit on the military in foreign and Communist countries. Straight up unAmerican draft dodger...you lose the ability to call anyone names or have anyone take you serious just based on the horses you have tied yourselves to. Hypocrite thy name is Democrat.

Maybe Kerry should be awarded a fourth Purple Heart because...

THE TRUTH HURTS

After reading this story and the ensuing comments I just have to laugh. Who cares what Kerry did or didn't do? He called a political supporter of the opposing party on the carpet for who he supported. So what? I'm sure the 'conservative' Republicans have done the same. Course that doesn't make him a hero any more than whatever Bush or any other politician does make them a hero. This is politics as usual. Hacks arguing over who's in control. As if it really matters. The good thing that comes out of this is at least it spiced up an otherwise boring day in the city of 530+ idiots.

No, Senator Kerry, you're not a screamer. You're just a whiner.

"Swift Boating" Interesting how the liberal media refuses to report that the 250+ fellow swift boat operators and commanders that stated John Kerry is unfit to be Commander and Chief was comprised of an almost equal number of DEMOCRATS and republicans. Must be a 'vast rightwing conspiracy'.

Kerry should demnand that the truth come out. Wait, that would expose him for the dishonorable traitor he probably is. Semper Fi

Hey Meuphys, ya better get up to date on that "iraq and no wmds" thing. There have been 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 which meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

These munitions contained sarin and mustard gases. Sarin and mustard gases are classified as chemical warfare agents and are one class of WMDs. There are three classifications of WMDs, these classifications are BIOLOGICAL, CHEMICAL, and NUCLEAR / RADIOLOGICAL.

I'm not sure what I think about Kerry, but I know I don't like the sophomoric excuse for an administration we have. Therefore, I can't imagine any executive not being better.

Swiftboating may have played a role in us not getting someone else, so that was unfortunate.

However, let's not overblow the role the swiftboating played - in my view the primary reason Kerry lost was because Kerry simply wasn't very good on the campaign trail. He may have made a great president, or he may have been as bad as Bush (though simple laws of probability would seem to be against that). But he's not a guy overflowing with campaign skills.

Kerry is a loser. He wrote his own after-action reports and recommended himself for medals. One of his Purple Heart wounds was treated with a pair of tweezers and a band-aid. He has never had a real job. He marries his money. He is a millionaire socialist hypocrite. No number of Washington Post fluff pieces will raise Kerry from the "nowhere" standing he now has in the eyes of the American people. Other than that, however, I have no strong feelings on the subject.

Okay you right wing idiots. Whose military service was more honorable, Bush's or Kerry's? Yeah, thought that would shut you up. Kerry won some metals and all the offical reports are on file as to how they were won. Sections of Bush's record of his pansy ass service in the National Guard is missing however. What's up with that? Could he have been on a bender for a few months and missed some service?

Swiftboats aside, he did less than 6 months in country and got 3 purple hearts. Wow!! We should could have used his strength on hill 488 on June 14th. 1966. Operation Kansas, 1rst. Recon.
Kerry, to any Viet Vet your a fraud!

what defined Kerry wasn't the Swift Boat campaign - but how he reacted, or didn't to it. I would be surprised if Kerry was able to parlay the Mr. Fox's lack of detailed memory on the matter of his (Fox's) campaign contributions into a question on his ability to fill the post to which he was being nominated. This could have been an interesting exchange - it's just that John Kerry like his running mate - is not a quick thinker or thurough in his preparation.
/humble - always

Shame on Kerry for selfishly appropriating the public venue for personal vendettas. The man needs to get over it and acknowledge that he got beat by a better candidate (if not a better man) in 2004. If he was such a deserving cadidate, why has he so quickly been shelved for '08? Hey Kerry, do like your bully friends say and MOVEON.org, you pathetic and lowly imbecile.

I see the conservative bed wetters have arrived. Sure there are WMDs in Iraq. Sure there are... Now why not go hide under your mommy's apron you chicken ****. Better yet hire the SBVFT to save you.

It is interesting how most Kerry supporters' posts in this thread consist solely of name-calling Kerry detractors. Examples:

"It's obvious to any sentient voter that Kerry Haters support their brain dead president more than they actually support the troops."

"You swiftboat supporters are disgusting examples of unpatriotic twits who deep down don't give a hoot about 'supporting the troops.' I suppose you thought wearing purple heart band-aides at the 2004 republican national convention was "tawdry" too??? Hardcore wingers are sick and twisted people."

Hey..daughter of a POW...your "combat veteran" who should be held in such high esteem is not only besmirching an entire platoon of men that served far longer and with far more honor and distinction than he did, but this "Honorable Warrior" then came home, after three months, and spit on the momories of all the men that were killed in the service of their country in Vietnam both while testifying in the Senate and at various anti-American rallies. He spit on every Purple Heart recipient when he threw his medals...no wait...his ribbons...no that's not right...someone's medals...somthing he got out of a cereal box over the fence and then called every soldier a murderous baby raping animalistic thug. Maybe you should do a little more research into the guy you support, since he insulted your own father while your father was sitting in a POW camp. Kerry won't mind though...after all he is honored in a Communist museum for all he did in bringing about the Vietnamese victory over America. Yup...this is the guy we need as President and Senator. He fits in well with the Klansman and the other morons that hate America and are apologists who aer handing victories over to terrorists.

Ya right ERF. Like you Bush supporters are all full of love and compassionate conservatism. Go jump in a lake.

The swiftboaters - both Democrat and Republican didn't smear anyone. They were the pople that were there and they told the truth. You liberal journalist bias is hanging out.

Hypocrisy is saying you support the troops while sending them to fight a war without the necessary armor. "You fight the was with the Army you have not the Army you want." Hypocrisy is asking our young man and woman to risk their lives while when it was your time to go you get Daddy to get you a slot in the National Guard. Hypocrisy is talking tough, but having better things to do when it is your chance to fight. Who do these three people remind you of?

Ever notice how bile and neurotic libs can be? I guess it stems from long list of losses: only 2 Dems elected as presidents in almost 40 years!!! Pretty pathetic, don't you think? Thank God America has enough sense not to elect more of these wackos!!!

The SBVFT lies have been thoroughly disproven. This Fox guy is lousy choice for an ambassador and Kerry demonstrated that perfectly.

Well, I see the brain trust from Free Republic or Little Green Snotballs must have been sent over here to flood the comments.

Brainiacs, Kerry DID release his medical records, almost two years ago. rkwhyte2, He signed the 180 on May 20, 2005. See: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/06/07/kerry_allows_navy_release_of_military_medical_records/

That you keep insisting he refuses to (because Limabugh and Coulter tell you to believe that, I suppose) shows how uninformed you really are.

As for proof: Kerry does not have to proove the swiftboaters are wrong. The official military records that back up Kerry's medals are considered to be accurate until they are proven otherwise. It is up to the swiftboaters to offer evidence to contradict those records, and they failed to do that. Trotting out a doctor who claims to remember a specific minor wound on a specific member of the military (who was just another serviceman at the time, not in any way known), who claims he can remember that one minor wound out of the hundreds he must have treated nearly 40 years ago and DID NOT SIGN KERRY'S MEDICAL CHART for the wound, is NOT convincing evidence.

From some of the comments it's obvious that a lot of people choose to believe John O'Neil's lies over the military's own documentation, without a shred of evidence to justify it. Whatever.

Hey John, who lost back in November? You did. Who'll lose next year? You will. Again. Live with that.

I suppose that sour grapes and their squeezers in the MSM taste just as good now as they did in 2000 and 2004. Enjoy!

GOP08 DOA...having twenty years in the USAF hardly qualifies me as a "chicken****". What have you done for your country?

The truth has a known liberal bias.

Served in Iraq, Pale Rider. Next?

Senator Kerry is soooo pathetic. Sad part is that he does not know the difference between the truth and a lie. A look at his remarks over the last 30 years show him to either be a pathological liar or one who is eligible for a permanent stay at St. Elizabeth's Hospital for the Criminally Insane.

Most of us who have observed his actions closely recommend the latter.

Ever heard of the Gulf War, GOP08 DOA?

All I can say is to thank God, for the swift boat vets. Even though our country is now in a mess, esp. with our President and the Democrats so willing to sell out our country to Mexico, and the illegal aliens, had Kerry been President, It would have been even worse , the amnesty comprehensive immigration bill would have passed last year! Personally, with the way Kerry gave comfort to the enemy when we were still at war with Vietnam, I am surprised he is even a Junior Senator, I guess that shows that some states do not seem to care what kind of trash they are willing to lay on America!

Swift Boat author O'Neill has challenged Kerry to sue, to "put up or shut up," yet Kerry refuses.

Why? Why won't Kerry let the evidence be aired in a court of law?

Instead he whines in a committee hearing? Pathetic.

Who hasn't? You're full of it. Again, go jump in a lake.

I have family members and friends who are lifelong Democrats & served in Vietnam who voted against this worm and for Bush because they remembered the actions and deeds of him and his ilk. Yet DIMS still stand with people like him, Kswimmer and $$frozen$$ so they don't loose their hold on power. Disgusting!

Nothing to see here. Just a self-important Junior Senator still bitter that he lost his bid for President to someone with a higher GPA than him...
Seriously, what I find more interesting is how reading down the thread, many of the liberal persuasion immediately turned to name-calling of fellow post(ers). I imagine that in those circles, that counts as an open and viable discussion...I find it farcical. BTW...it's "medals"...not "metals"

Most of the comments in this thread make poor arguments. While I'm no Kerry fan, and feel that if he did this in revenge, then it was in fact wrong and shows low morals. However, he did successfully show that Fox is either totally spineless, or an Eichmann in Jerusalem (i.e. mindless idiot). It appears that if a terrorist with a GOP logo on their turban would enter his embassy, Fox would stuff $50,000 in the terrorist's pocket without asking questions. Or he might mail the money or do the transaction over the phone or... Point being, regardless of Mr. Kerry's intentions, he exposed Fox as someone unfit to be an ambassador, which was the point of the hearing. As for arriving at the end, it may have been due to laziness, or he may have been in some other hearing or meeting. I'm not defending him, as he may have just decided to sleep in, but like you other posters, I don't know what he did that day. However, I'm not a moron who makes uninformed assertions like you. And as for his Vietnam awards, like me, all you know is what some commerical told you. To simply believe that because it's what you want to believe makes me glad you are sprawled out in front of a computer screen at home and not in some sort of elected office. Those types of 'beliefs' can get thousands of people killed... While Kerry 'may' have wussed out of the war after serving some time, he at least did not join a glorified boy scout troop to avoid service altogether, then request leave from said scout troop to work on his father's campaign. All this being said, it was unfortunate that people like Bush and Kerry are supposedly the 'best' we could do for the 2004 election. Or is it that 527's lied and slandered other worthy potential candidates out of contention?

The only one who has yet to call the Swift Boaters a liar is Kerry himself. He may say that they sunk his campaign, but he has NEVER said they lied. As for them not showing proof, their entire book was documented evidence. There has never been a single claim by Kerry or his campaign of Libel. If what they said was wrong or a lie, they would be able to be sued for committing Libel and for Defamation of Character. The fact that to this day, not a single lawsuit has been brought against them speaks much louder than the hippie Liberals claims of how brave Kerry is and how the Swifties lied.

Also, all the Righties here have presented their statements in a clear and concise manner. All the little Libbies have done is present further ad hominem attacks that make them sound like spoiled little kindergartners. It is just comical what the Liberals find as political discourse these days, isn't it?

"Kerry attacked some guy during his confirmation hearing which was completely out of line."

"Oh yeah? Well Bush sucks and Republican suck...so there"

Yup...you guys really win us over with your intelligence. I just love letting you guys talk. Everytime you open your mouths wins one more person over to the Conservative side and guarantees anoth 4-8 years of Republican Presidents. Bunch of hypocrites every damn last one of you Liberals. Now quick...get off your mom's computer before she comes home and finds out you haven't cleaned your rooms or done your homework yet.

Yes, I have "friends" who voted for Bush too. We have name for them: idiots.

GOP08 DOA...so I take it that you're the usual liberal asswipe that doesn't know the first thing about service to ones' country.

By the way, I was honorably discharged in May 2000 and couldn't cover for your pansy ass in 2003. ;)

I was stationed at Cam Rahn Bay during the time Kerry received his first Purple Heart there. I was assigned the 12th Security Police Squadron and as such my daily job, along with 1200 others, was the defense of the isthmus perimeter including the Navy's Swift Boats. While I cannot speak to Kerry's performance in the Navy I can speak to the fact that there was NO enemy activity at Cam Rahn during that time he was assigned there. I can also speak to the fact that being awarded a Purple Heart requires injury received as a direct result of enemy action. Since there was no enemy action Kerry's first of three Purple Hearts was a fraud. Further he used the magic three Purple Hearts to be rotated home early. Draw your own conclusion.

By the sounds of it, you're just another Bush Ass Kisser with a computer.

Kerry caused his own trouble by pretending he was a "hero" instead of just another man who did his duty faithfully in Vietnam. Kerry's Silver Star was typical of the inflated awards system which existed in many commands- especially for officers.

Kerry chased a single Viet Cong who was running away and shot him. Compare that with the accounts in the book 'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE AND YOUNG" or "BLACKHAWK DOWN"! Or how about the more recent Iraq accounts if you can find them in your local paper- or on FOX.

Kerry was like many others who went to Vietnam and did his job. By pretending that he was some special type of hero better than all of the rest he set himself up for a well deserved fall.

This isn't about Kerry, but Sam Fox. First he funds a campaign that calls Kerry a fraud and traitor then a few years later he calls Kerry a hero in the US senate. Text book definition of twofaced liar who will say anything to get what he wants...
Either he lied in the US senate to get a job or he financed a group that lied. He can't have it both ways. Please send someone that speak with ONE tounge.

You didn't serve in Iraq. Nice of you to try to claim you did. Why don't you tell us all your unit, division et al? Here is your chance to let everyone know just how much like Kerry you really are. Or is it more like Jessie MacBeth? Jessie? Is that you? All we need now is Debbie Frisch to show up and offer her little pearls of Liberal Wisdom to conplete the Circus of the Absurd that is the Liberal response and defense of this fake warrior.

There are a lot of Kerry supporters here getting their panties in a knot. We see it when they use terms like "idiots""Bush Ass Kisser" or throwing in a red herring like WMDs. Grow up already children. Your inability to stay composed is why you lost the last two elections. (i.e. Gore, Dean & Kerry) While the topic of WMDs is worthy of discussion, it is not the topic of this thread.

There was no smear of John Kerry's Viet Nam War era record. The facts were presented and people made their own judgement. Myself, I served a tour in Viet Nam and at home watched John Kerry disgrace himself, his uniform and the US Navy. It doesn't make any difference how many cats Kerry puts in the sandbox they will never be able to cover up his disgrace in those years. People who actually served in those years know what is wrong with Kerry's record and why we did not vote for him.

John Kerry your shame will never go away.

Nice try. Why I wouldn't give you the time of day if you asked, why should I tell you my unit, division et al???

Again, you people support Bush more than you do you the troops. Talk about hypocrits.

Why doesn't JFK debate O'Neil and the SBVT in public? These are his peer officers who served side-by-side with the traitor, not some moneybags like Soros. How about JFK's lies on the Senate floor about being in Cambodia listening to "President" Nixon, Christmas '68?

Simple question: Kerry has been challenged to sue, "put up or shut up," yet he refuses.

WHY?

No...what Fox did was shut up a whiney little spoiled giggalo who decided to show boat. He removed Kerry's ability to soapbox and grandstand in a forum the was neither appropriate nor had anything to do with Kerry or his lost aspirations. He basically said anything to shut him up and go away so that they could get on with the workings of the country. Please note, that not one of Kerry's "friends" came to his aid or jumped in. He was like the guy who lost the vote for Prom King and is still going up to people weeks later trying to figure out what he did wrong. Maybe Gore will let him help on the Global Warming lie. After all...if one lie doesn't work, find another one that will.

Get real. You Bush nut huggers lost the last election and guaranteed, with your continued stupidity, you'll lose the next one too. Republicans are in continuous damage control and voters have already lost faith in the party of corruption. You made your bed...

Thanks for provig my point. You are a liar and a fraud. You didn't serve in Iraw. You didn't so much as serve as a Cub Scout, but instead thouht you would garner some sense of respect by lying about serving in the military. Why don't you keep using your childish little name calling attacks. You have proven yourself to be a liar and thusly a non-human. You are the lowest form of Liberal scum...someone that would lie about serving in the military. No wonder you support Kerry's military lies. You are irrelevant. Now get off your mom's computer I said...it is obvious you are not old enough to use it, nor old enough to have a lick of morals or ethics you ittle lying hypocritical Lib.

Someone should have read their "it pays to increase your word power" when they were in elementary school. Maybe their still there and its not to late. Semper Fi

What is really bugging democrats is that in the past two presidential elections they put up the best they had, and got whipped by a guy they consider a lightweight....

And they fear a third whipping is on the way.

Thanks for proving [b]my[/b] point, you irrational scaredy cat. Now quick, there are terrorists at your door and WMDs under your bed. Go git 'em!

What hurts more cowards? Losing the House or Senate???

Come on Little Lying Lib...why don't you prove your self? You do realize you have lost all credibility, right? I mean, not that your little immature rantings were winning you any Pulitzers...but to make that claim of being in the Military...Come on Jessie MacBeth...surely you have learned by this time that it is illegal to impersonate a soldier or to claim military service when you didn't serve, right? No wonder you support Kerry...he pretended to be a soldier and war hero and then insulted and spit on their memories too. Maybe someday you can grow up to be a Democrat Senator too. But first, you need to study real hard and graduate High School first. And eat your vegetables like mommy has been telling you every night. Otherwise you'll never grow up big and strong like your Uncle Teddy.

The "documentation" in O'Neil's book has almost all been completely discedited. Time and again, their versions of events contradict the official military records or accounts of other eyewitnesses, and they offer nothing to show that they're right and the military is wrong.

you believe it because you WANT to believe it, and you really don't care if it's true ... it fits the worldview you want to maintain.

Again, what hurts more?

The name of the SBVFT book was "Unfit for Command." It had ten chapters--chapters 1 thru 5 dealt with what Kerry did in Vietnam, and chapters 6 thru 10 dealt with his antiwar activism when he came home. He was very public about his activism when he came home..after all it was the political expediency of the moment. GOP08 DOA thanks for your service to the country. But you're unwittingly standing up for a dirtbag.

I dunno, what hurts more liar...losing twice to a guy who you guys think can't tie his shoes? Or losing in the Congress for 12 years and whining and crying about it for just as long? See, it is you little dweebs that spent 12 years whining and crying about fixed and rigged elections every time you lost. Now you win and you seem to have forgotten about how you acted like preschoolers. Hey...what happened to all those riged elections, like the one Kerry lost? Did they fix those machines? I seem to have missed it. Last I saw, all the falsification, intimidation and fraud was done by the Democrats...then this election happened and all the claims seemed to have went away. Wow...hypocrisy at it's finest...yet you don't hear any of those claims from the Right. Instead, we cleaned house and are reorganizing. Now, come on little liar...prove your service like you said or go back to your room and clean it before your momma's uncle daddy comes home from the bar.

Remember when Hillary Clinton openly accused President George H. W. Bush, in 1992, of having an affair while denying that Bill Clinton even knew Gennifer Flowers.

Of course, Clinton later admitted in court that he had sex with Gennifer Flowers.

Kerry is a sore loser and this shows that he is petty.

The fact is that he bugged out of Vietnam after only 4 months, left his buddies behind, and threw his medals over the fence.

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You americans are extremely self centered. Its like listening to a bunch of teenage girls. The issue here is who you are going to have as your representant in another country. It is not about Bush, Kerry, Clinton, Obama or anyone else of your heros/villains/whatever you want to call him. Does anyone have an opinion on Sam Fox? Competent guy? Yes/No

Poor poor delusional Bush ass kisser. We just love watching your meltdown. Carry on.

John Kerry undoubtedly had dozens of democratic denizens for redistribution (lawyers) chomping at the bit to file libel and slander charges against the leaders of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. There was only one problem for this primadonna light weight fraud. A smart member of the Kerry camp knew the accusations were true and wisely advised against filing suit. Kerry is so delusional that facts don't matter to him. Remember what his mom said to him on her deathbed, "integrity, integrity." Why would she implore John to consider that? Because she knew he had none. Still doesn't.

You must have missed it, Mr Belgian. Fox had his ass handed to him.

SteveG, how has the transcripts from the floor of the Fulbright Committee in '71 been discredited? Have the video tapes been exposed as frauds? How about the appearance of John "author of Unfit for Command" O'Neill and John Kerry on the Dick Cavett show where O'Neill shuts Kerry down? These are from memory, I can come back with more if you like.

I'm still amazed that Clinton's lasting legacy isn't the Genocide of 900,000 Rwandans.

Clinton completely ignored this humanitarian crisis and refused to even call it Genocide or a single soldier to the UN for this mission.

Americans are up in arms about the death of 50,000 Iraqis, but have almost completely ignored the deaths of 900,000 Rwandans simply because they were black.

Hey Belgian citizen, thanks for the lesson in ethics. Being that you're not an American, you may not understand the gravity of the fact that this man John Kerry very nearly became the most powerful person in our country, and it was thanks to the courage of the Swift Boat veterans that we were spared.

Bottom Line:
Many of the Swift Vets for Truth Knew Kerry on a personal and professional level(i.e. Vietnam).

All 527's against Bush did not know Bush on a personal level or professional level.

527's against Bush contributed much $$$ (SOROS)

527's against Kerry contributed Very small $

527's attacked Bush more than Kerry...

Result: Kerry, you have no room to complain, stop while you can or stop all 527s (Soros & Co.)

vetmp: That was what the privilege of money and friends in the political theater rather than an "active" theater such as, I CORP. The man was a traitor then and has not changed.
GOP08: You got it all wrong. Bush was not the best choice, he was the ONLY choice to any REAL Viet Vet.

We all know what happened in Rwanda and pointing the finger at Bill Clinton is way too easy, as much as I'd like to. What did you do to avert the crisis?

Bush enablers are directly responsible for the Iraq catastrophy. History will see you and your president as the most intellectually dishonest bunch on liars and charlatans the political world has witnessed. That must make you proud!

Hmmm . . . kind of like being "Borked" huh, Senator Kerry? Cry me a river.

How many traitors in your government Mr Belgian? We decide whats important to this country. Semper Fi

Well
To me its the same old story double standard George Souros spend millions
on 527's and nobody questions it.
The problem Mr. Skerry is that his
"inconvinient truth" is still haunting him
and like all socialists cant take being defeated.
But they want to surrender in Iraq smear the names and lives of our true heroes that on the front line fighting the terrorist and not getting purple hearts in vain like he did.

Good call, 527s for truth. SBVFT was the David to Moveon.org's Goliath in terms of money spent.

Justin: I am fully aware of John Kerrys failed presidential campaign. Some veterans say he is a hero some don't. However why that is relevant to who should become ambassadeur to Belgium goes straight over my head.

I think John Kerry is not a very good person, and he helped to vote for the very bill that allowed 527's to exist in the first place.

http://www.americanlegends.blogspot.com

Justin, Kerry's anti-war activism after returning home from combat is well-known and widely documented and not in dispute. To the extent that O'Neil and others feel personally hurt by that, they have a right to feel that way and express their feelings and opinions about it.

What they DON'T have a right to do is fabricate alternative versions of Kerry's conduct in combat in order to defame him.

Kerry's views on the war after he came back are certainly fair game for debate. Many people believe he was wrong to have spoken out, others believe he was right to, and all of those are legitimate reactions.

That's not the problem. The problem is the lies they tell about what he did before coming home.

For those who insist they are not lies, produce one shred of evidence other than a SBV's claim to have seen it that they are right and the official records are wrong. One shred.

Good thing voters got wise and cleaned up the House *and* the Senate. What hurts more justin?

In 2002, very few people (besides me) knew that Bush was a lying scumbag and incompetent fool. Then the swiftboating began on Gore and Kerry. Now,
in 2007, everybody knows that Bush is a lying scumbag and incompetent fool.

Real combat veterans don't have a lot of neat photo albums. Pretty hard to tote a camera along. Nor do they give a damn about writing themselves up for a purple heart, they just wanna go home. No, I don't believe him, but even if the guy was a hero, that doesn't give him license to trash his buddies when he gets home. That's unforgiveable.

The GOP has sooo verrry little credibility these days, all they can do is harp on Kerry's service to our country. Why do republicans hate our troops?

Why don't you tell me where I can find you. I think your the coward. Hiding behind your computer.Nothing burns me more then narrow minded people that resort to personally atacking people for their opinion you must be a peice of work.If your want to defend Kerry defend him but let these people bash his if it's there opinion Awaiting your name and address

I notice none of you intellectuals has any excuse for Kerry not filing suit against the hero leaders of the Swifties.Check mate boys and girls.

The last responds was for DNC DOA

I can't believe this Fox guy caved so easily to the Traitor. I'd give anything to have the chance to be "drilled" by the Traitor - the inarticulate, mealymouthed dunderhead that he is. I wouldn't even need for the Traitor to ask, "Is truth important or isn't it?" I would demand on my own, "Isn't the truth important?!" I would just continue to recite the Traitor's record over and over - and would keep calling for his execution. This piece of sh*t senator is responsible for countless Vietnamese and Cambodian deaths; he's no hero. He should pay the ultimate price and should swing from the nearest tree. I wish I could volunteer to pull the lever myself.

Burn away. And keep waiting.

Kerry served. Bush didn't. End of story.

Belgian citizen, my apologies. I got so caught up in Kerry that lost sight of the forest for the trees. Unfortunately, Fox's qualification to be ambassador is about a tenth as interesting as Kerry's posturing...and I don't think it is "self-centered" of us to pay so much attention to that. What we are arguing about here, and desperately pursuing, is the increasingly elusive truth. As far as Mr. Fox's qualifications, why, we have elected officials to deal with such things lol

GOP08 DOA...do you mean what hurts more, to lose the Senate or the House to the Democrats? Who cares? I'm glad the Republicans got beat, maybe now they'll remember who their constituents are.

mioilman, who knows? Maybe he's working on it. Maybe he doesn't want to give them another public venue to smear him. Maybe he's not the litigious type. Maybe he has other things going on that are higher priority to him. Or any of a dozen other possible reasons.

What purpose would it serve? He can't really show monetary damages and doesn't need money. People like you who actually think John O'Neil is credible aren't likely to be persuaded by reason to change your mind, so there's no reason for Kerry to think a lawsuit would do any good for reversing the damage caused. It would cost him money and time to rehash 40-year-old stories and for no real gain.

It proves nothing one way or the other.

If Kerry thinks the Swift Boat campaign was wrong, then why didn't he release his medical records in the campaign.

I am also disappointed with this Sam Fox for squirming and for calling Kerry a "hero."

GOP08: So does serving in the National Guard not count as serving?

Since when does telling the truth about someone constitute a smear?

Senator Kerry cause a lot of pain to POW's while his country was at war with Vietnam. US service men were tortured and Kerry's words were used to demoralize them.

The left always calls people telling the truth about them a "smear."

At the same time they run adverts claiming things like Governor Bush wanted people of color to be dragged to death because he doesn't believe in thought crime legislation.

The left does nothing but smear. Tax and smear liberals. They smear their own country. They go overseas and trash the United States on foreign soil.

May there be many more "smears" that tell the truth about the leftists who are trying to tear down this country.

SteveG, over 90% of what we believe is based on authority, that is, we believe things because credible people told us so. Why would so many of Kerry's peers in his own unit agree to tell such a well-orchestrated lie against the man they served with? Kerry didn't just speak out when he returned own--he demonstrably lied. So why would I believe one political opportunist over hundreds of servicemen with nothing to gain?

Republicans still don't know who their constituents are. An overwhelmeing number of voters oppose this hogwash war, they oppose a "surge" and they think Bush is doing a pitiful job as president and command in chief. Yet the 33 or so percent with blinders on, are STILL on a Kerry rampage. Pathetic losers.

Call it what you will but the Swift Boat ads were accurate and the only refutation is Kerry's word for it. He still hasn't signed SF 180 that will release his entire military record for public scrutiny rather than just the selected pieces he released on his web site. If Kerry says they lied about him it's within his power to prove them liars not just accuse them.

Hey Owen, does being AWOL, snorting cocaine, and drinking like a pig count as serving? You tell me.

Justin, why don't go one step further and name some vets that "served" with Bush???

By the way, SteveG, the very military records that contradict the Swift Boat veterans are the records that John Kerry wrote the action reports for, or are based on his own exaggerated injuries. This is dealt with extensively in "Unfit for Command," which I don't think you've read.

"..does being AWOL, snorting cocaine, and drinking like a pig count as serving? You tell me."

You left out "whoring around." Enough about Clinton.

kwickstep; Right on!! I'm just an old shot up Marine, but I still remember holding the hands of buddies who were dying and perhaps calling for their mothers as they died. For this man to tout himself as a combat Vet makes me puke!

But, but, but, Clinton...

blue adidas, why do you and your shoes have nothing, absolutely nothing in defense of your party's demise except:

Wah, Kerry. Wah Clinton.

Excuse me, but your biggest problem right now is Bush.

GOP08 DOA, President Bush could have been a groundskeeper on an officer's golf course in the Reserve Air Guard and that still would have been more honorable than Kerry, who spent any honor he may have had when he came home and lied to the Fulbright Committee. Also, the only reason I give you a response is because you are a vet. If you're lying about that, I retract any word directed toward you.

I guess it does since he was honorably discharged from his guard duty. Much like Kerry received his 3 purple hearts. You really didn't serve in Iraq, did you?

It's funny how "swiftboating" in the hands of the left has gone from "telling the truth" to something else. Kerry still hasn't released his military records, by the way. We still don't know on what grounds he was discharged, but "dishonorable" is more likely than the alternative.

You don't put yourself in for a Silver Star after shooting an unarmed fleeing kid in the back. You don't ask for a purple heart. If your hit everyone knows it and They AWARD you the medal. You don't get it for grains of rice generated by your own grenade. Wht didn't all the SWIFT people pad their resume? Kerry went for credentials and as soon as he fixed himelf up he bailed. Heros die once, cowards a thousand times over. Semper Fi

DOA Guy, so what you're saying is that ...what is it you're saying? That you were there, snorting coke, going AWOL or drinking like a pig? If you weren't there, you ought to shut up! As a Vietnam Vet and one who won my purple heart honestly, you don't appear to know what you're writing about. Kerry lied in 1971 and he lied in 2004. He deserved to lose and his constant belittling of veterans and soldiers of any era since VN is sick.

Why does this guy Fox (the name fits the character) want to become the ambassador to Belgian anyway? I mean, he's soooo freakin' rich that he forgets that he gave 50 big ones to some political hit group, and then kisses Kerry's butt port with his ever-so-wet lips??!! Must be some great beer and cheese over there.....

I'm sure Kerry would've ripped out this turd's throat if he stayed for the whole show.

The GOP has sooo verrry little credibility these days, all they can do is harp on Kerry's service to our country.

Actually, politically, Kerry is pretty much irrelevant to the Republicans. Bush might not be the brightest, but until the Democrats provide a better option than just "don't do anything, except nail the intern" the Republicans will keep winning the white house. Bush is not the most polished speaker in the world and Democrats may call him insulting juvenile names. Kerry, Dean and Gore were nothing more than complainers with no convincing alternatives intended to resolve the Middle East problem that has existed for decades.

If GPO08 DOA served in Iraq, then I had 238 confirmed kills in WWII. Wait...

GOP08 DOA for you from the donkeys mouth. . .

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source

Steve g. Kerry might still be working on it? I wet myself laughing. I have to go. It is still game, set, match.

Just curious if anyone has noticed that the few posts supporting Kerry are nothing but personal insults and jabs? Also curious if those who are writing the insults and jabs are aware that when you do that, it only proves even more that you have nothing to say to invalidate the post you are responding to? Remember....it is better to remain silent and allow others to question your stupidity than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Thanks justin. I still think you're priorities are "borked" (ha,ha) when your type supports a bonafide failure like Bush with such fervor. Typically republican though... see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

Break time is over at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Gotta go. Have fun with the troop haters.

The W.Post failed to mention
Kerry and Democrats pushed for the
McCain-Feingold Bill thus giving birth to
the 527's. It was only when Democrats became the victims of their own invention
that 527's became evil.

bbnelson:That's why far lefty idiots such as yourself have no credibility! You have no inkling of what the different branches of the military are all about.You just blog little idiotic statements that you heard from some other lefty idiot who also knows nothing about the military structure.FYI The Air Guard is the reserve component of the Air Force.It's tasked to protect the country and to augment the regular Airforce when called upon to do so.That means going into combat if called upon. As a combat veteran myself I can assure you that I had many tac-air sortes carried out by the people you call "pansies" in the ANG while lying on my belly getting fired upon by NVA and Vietcong guerrillas while serving as a young grunt paratrooper in 68-69. And I was damn glad to have them.But you wouldn't know anything about that because you live in a fairy tale lefty fools paradise!The vacuousness of your little moveon.org rant is apalling!I would like to see you make that statement, that the ANG was a "panseyass" organization to any one of the millions who have served in the ANG to their faces?You and your kind would fold like A CHEAP DEMOCRAT SUIT in that situation, I'm certain?As for your hero, JFK 2, he has not revealed the part of his military record that would clear him of any, if not all, the charges of the swiftboat "Real Heros" who outed him.And you,little fella, are an uninformed looney bird.

Mary Ann Akers seems too have been quietly rooting for Senator "Lurch" Kerry in his questioning of Fox. Was this an analysis piece, commetary, observation? If the latter, it was very biased.

Ric, Banjo (and anybody else who hasn't read the whole thread) ... Kerry DID sign the 180 to release his full medical records, in 2005. Scroll up and you'll see where I linked to an article on it.

That you all still believe he didn't is because you get your information from Fox, the Washington Times and AM radio.

GOP08 DOA, why you see my disdain for Kerry as "fervor" for Bush is not clear to me. Is your world so black-and-white that every criticism of a Democrat is matched in the ledgers with a "hurrah" for a Republican?

Here is what Kerry had to say in October 2002 when he voted for the use of force to remove Saddam Hussein.

Back in October 2002, when Senator Kerry voted to grant President Bush the authority to make war to remove Saddam Hussein from power, he declared that "Iraq has chemical and biological weapons" and even claimed that most elements of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs were "larger and more advanced than they were before the Gulf War." Furthermore, Kerry asserted that Iraq was "attempting to develop nuclear weapons," backing up this accusation by claiming that "all U.S. intelligence experts agree" with such an assessment. He also stated that "Iraq is developing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents, which could threaten Iraq's neighbors as well as American forces in the Persian Gulf."

Below is what Kerry had to say on January 11, 2004 about the Iraq War during an interview with Tim Russert.

MR. RUSSERT: You said this about Howard Dean, and this is, I think, at the core of your candidacy against Howard Dean. "...those who believe we are not safer with [Saddam Hussein's] capture don't have the judgment to be President - or the credibility to be elected President." As we speak this Sunday morning, Senator, do you believe that Howard Dean does not have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president?

SEN. KERRY: I think the judgment of a nominee who doesn't understand that having Saddam Hussein captured will make it extraordinarily difficult to be able to beat an incumbent wartime president who captured Saddam Hussein. And let me tell you why, Tim. Saddam Hussein took us to war once before. In that war, young Americans were killed. He went to war in order to take over the oil fields. It wasn't just an invasion of Kuwait. He was heading for the oil fields of Saudi Arabia. And that would have had a profound effect on the security of the United States. This is a man who has used weapons of mass destru