Articles of Impeachment To Be Filed On Cheney
Looks like he's reached his boiling point.
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), the most liberal of the Democratic presidential candidates in the primary field, declared in a letter sent to his Democratic House colleagues this morning that he plans to file articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney.
Kucinich has made ending the war in Iraq the central theme of his campaign. He has even taken aim at the leading Democratic presidential candidates in the field for their votes on authorizing the war.
Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and "all civil Officers of the United States" for "treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich's impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.
Kucinich's office had no comment on the Congressman's "Dear Colleague" letter -- which apparently was drafted over the weekend, before the school massacre -- or on what the focus of articles of impeachment against Cheney would be.
But Kucinich shouldn't hold his breath on getting anywhere with his impeachment plan. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.
Here is the text of his letter, a copy of which was forwarded to the Sleuth:
April 17, 2007
Dear Colleague:
This week I intend to introduce Articles of Impeachment with respect to the conduct of Vice President Cheney. Please have your staff contact my office . . . if you would like to receive a confidential copy of the document prior to its introduction in the House.
Sincerely,
/s/
Dennis J. Kucinich
Member of Congress
By Mary Ann Akers |
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Posted by: Arcadian | April 17, 2007 10:35 AM
Ah, yes, but the question is whether or not it'll stick, or if this is the last we ever hear from Kucinich after the WH finds out?
I'm off to find a tub of popcorn -- if it does stick, this could be an interesting ride.
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 10:39 AM
You know...oddly enough, this sounds like a stroke of genius! The media waters have been thoroughly poisoned with the idea that impeachment proceedings against Bush as a no-go because of the Clinton impeachment. By the same logic, the failure to convict even ONE person - even if they were innocent - somehow makes it impossible to even try to convict the most depraved mass-murderer.
But going after the Vice-President is different. He's even more unpopular than Bush, for one thing. And I don't believe that a Vice-President has ever been impeached in the history of the US, so this is actually something quite new.
I understand why the perpetually-cowed Democrats in Congress are too terrified to dream of impeaching Bush, no matter how thoroughly he deserves it. But for some reason, it seems just barely possible that they might feel better about supporting a Cheney impeachment bid.
Maybe.
Posted by: Quasit | April 17, 2007 10:47 AM
At first, I thought this was brilliant--finally someone has the courage to hold the engine driving the train accountable. However, on second thought, this (if it were to succeed and Cheney were to leave office) would get the next Republican president into office. Appointing a new vice president would be a dream for the GOP. Good intentions Kucinich, but bad idea overall.
Posted by: DreA | April 17, 2007 10:51 AM
The proposed action by Kucinich may well explain why he is near last place among even Democratic presidential candidates: political zeal not balanced by political smarts.
The Constitution allows impeachment for high crimes-normally interpreted as felonies- or misdemeanors that warrant removal from office despite being elected by the people. It doesn't call for impeachment for bad judgment or political ineptitude. This makes about as much sense as impeaching Clinton did. The most probable results will be to a) suggest Kucinich is desperate to revive a sinking campaign, b) ensure that the Republicans rally around Bush whether they believe in him or not.
We need to hope the leadership of the Democratic Party is smarter than Kucinich and will defeat the move in committee. If Bush is indeed wrong, then he and his party should be defeated at the polls.
Posted by: John G. | April 17, 2007 11:00 AM
Who's dick cheney?
Posted by: donviti@yahoo.com | April 17, 2007 11:06 AM
Maybe Kucinich knows something the rest of us don't. Maybe he evidence that links Cheney's office to that infamous Italian letter. Or maybe, based on Cheney's statements in the media regarding our success in Iraq, he's going to try to impeach Cheney based on the assertion that the guy is effing crazy. Or maybe, he's going to go after him for obstructing an investigation when he refused to see the authorities for 14 hours after he shot a man (surely he wasn't drunk when that happened).
Posted by: caneiac01 | April 17, 2007 11:22 AM
Of course cheney should be impeached and Bush simultaneously. With investigations, the evidence would be overwhelming that they did indeed manipulate intelligence and lie to america about iraq's wmds, ties to 911 and imminent threat. Additionally, they committed crimes of authorizing torture, illegal spying and illegal detentions. Democrats need some balls like Kucinich. Does america stand for criminal leaders? The rest of the world is viewing america as a torturing arrogant beast that invades other countries and is guantanomo. We have lost our moral authority and the way to regain it is impeachment!
Posted by: Abel tomlinson | April 17, 2007 11:28 AM
Also, 51% of americans support impeachment, so we are the majority, including 20% of republicans, so it is bipartisan. If they support Bush as the head of their party, then they are represented by a criminal and their party will die.
Posted by: Abel Tomlinson | April 17, 2007 11:29 AM
START AT THE TOP WITH BUSH AND THEN DO CHENEY. THERE BOTH NO GOOD,THEY LIED TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !!!!!!
Posted by: R.E.LENZ | April 17, 2007 11:46 AM
The lack of leadership by the Democratic Party makes really solidifies my Green Party affiliation.
Criminals should not be allowed to run our country.
Posted by: Robert | April 17, 2007 11:51 AM
Go Dennis!
Dick is a great start in holding this administration accountable, screw the polls and political talking points, Dennis has the truth on his side!
-Mike
Posted by: Michael | April 17, 2007 12:00 PM
Why won't the Democrats pursue this? I don't understand. There is plenty of already documented, sworn evidence from Fitzgerald. In fact, at his last press conference Patrick Fitzgerald stated that he would be happy to send Congress any evidence they want. An invitation? Cheney's approval rating is only about 18%. Moreover, he is at the root of all the war mongering that comes out of this administration because people are afraid to cross him. Let's all stand up for Cheney's impeachment and make this happen from the grass roots. One person can make a difference.
Posted by: D. Wakefield | April 17, 2007 12:06 PM
i say definitely start with cheney... he would be more dangerous if bush got axed, bush is just a dumb puppethead for the real evil doers behind the scenes in their governmental undisclosed locations
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 12:07 PM
According to Sue Lindsey's article (of the Associated Press), the first statement the White House made after the VT shooting was the following:
"A White House spokesman said
President Bush was horrified by the rampage and offered his prayers to the victims and the people of Virginia. "The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said "
Why aren't journalists jumping on this? Doesn't this show how special interest oriented he is and how he is out of touch with the main stream and reality?
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 12:23 PM
Kucinich should introduce a single article over Geneva Convention violations. Cheney has publicly dismissed the horror that is waterboarding as "dunking."
The Hamdan ruling has already established the reality of Geneva violations. These acts are also federal crimes under US Code: Title 18,2441.
This would put the DC Dem "leadership" (and that craven quipping Dem aide) on the spot to defend or oppose war crimes. The GOP Senators would be put on the same spot in a Senate trial.
It is the charge that would stick.
In fact, it is a "slam dunk."
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Posted by: thedeanpeople | April 17, 2007 12:28 PM
Well, Kucinichs lame grandstand play got him his 15 minutes of fame, but it wont save his candidacy. Somehow I suspect in the world he walks in Kucinich sees this as a way to firm up his base in preparation for his run to the White House. My only question is if that is the case just what world is Kucinich in?
Posted by: Dave Anthony | April 17, 2007 12:58 PM
I am sick and tired of hearing all these damn excuses why Bush and Cheney should not be impeached. Politicians are not above the law, dammit! Kucinich speaks for the majority of the Americans. Democrats, hear this, Don't let those bastards blame you for losing a non-winnable war. This is on their shoulders and is theirs to keep. Win or lose!
Posted by: forest sprague | April 17, 2007 01:09 PM
Impeach them both. it'll be a good thing.
President Pelosi would severely piss Hillary off.
Posted by: Mike | April 17, 2007 01:16 PM
Both Cheney and Bush have misled and betrayed our country, our democracy and our TRUST. They have commited high crimes and misdemeanors, which can be read HERE: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/mckinneyarticles.pdf
The momentum for impeachment is growing every day. This online petition has already gathered nearly 90,000 signatures of THE PEOPLE: http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/88?ad=d0
We are in the midst of a Constitutional crises, and guess what? Our government isn't going to fix things unless WE THE PEOPLE stand up and make a big stink about it. This is a non-partisan issue. Bush and Cheney have betrayed their own party as well. They are not true to democracy; they are traitors and enemies of democracy and if they are not stopped, we are going to lose our country, and our world, to corporate power.
The demand for impeachment is a cry from the American People for the protection of DEMOCRACY as we have known it! Whether they are impeached, or not, at least we the people are starting to make noise about the injustice happening RIGHT NOW to America the Beautiful!!!
A true patriot of democracy and the USA
Posted by: gracefounddog | April 17, 2007 01:16 PM
hats off to Kucinich! Cheney, then Bush. Impeachment proceedings are likely to blow the lid off a lot of things we've been getting inklings of for years... such as, but not limited to:
How are Duke Cunningham, corrupt Lobbyists like Jack Abramoff and Cheney connected?
Why did Cheney really target Valerie Plame Wilson, taking down her counter-WMD-proliferation network?
Why did we listen to phoney bunk from drunks and liars about Iraqi wmd?
Was Cheney behind the Niger yellowcake scam in the first place?
What was Cheney doing on 9/11/01? The Secretary of Transportation's witness testimony of Cheney's actions were strange!
Is Cheney profiting from the war in Iraq and its aftermaths?
Posted by: enzo titolo | April 17, 2007 01:20 PM
it is brillant because cheney will pass the blame to bush, both will go down and we will have Pres. Pelosi!
Posted by: bks | April 17, 2007 01:22 PM
This will be a brilliant move. It will insure. upon impeachment (and conviction), that this criminal will not have a chance to be the head of the government. One thing at a time, in it's own time, when the time is right. The chimp will get his due...
Posted by: Jack Alexander | April 17, 2007 01:23 PM
Cheney is one of the best vote-getting tools the Democrats have in their arsenal and every time he opens his scowly mouth out pops more reason for an Independent or moderate Republican to think seriously about defecting from the GOP. This is the nasty RealPolitik reason Cheney will never be impeached. . . he is too valuable a motivator for the Dem base!
Posted by: Christian in NYC | April 17, 2007 01:24 PM
At least someone has the guts to do something. To whatever it might lead. But the American people need to wake up and get rid off the corrupt administration and its cronies. Finally some real news!
Posted by: Democrate in NOVA | April 17, 2007 01:30 PM
Kucinich likely has an accurate picture of his lightweight status in the pecking order.
But he surely isn't dumb. Just MAYBE,he's moving on some brand new impeachable dirt on Five Deferment Dick.
I advise the congressman not to board any small planes that are scheduled to land on icey runways.
Posted by: muzza | April 17, 2007 01:30 PM
This is the only thing a congress person can do in the face of the abuse of power exhibited by the administration. Any representative that does not go along with these investigations is defying their oath of office to protect the constitution against enemies both foreign and domestic. Go Kucinich!
Posted by: Matthew G | April 17, 2007 01:43 PM
Democrats are still learning something that the GOP learned long ago: don't run from your party's most extreme elements.
The GOP has relied for years on the "repeating it makes it so" phenomenon. Even if Kucinich's request goes nowhere, he's the first representative to mention it. If the Democrats wanted to, they could make use of it.
Posted by: Sammy | April 17, 2007 01:49 PM
Impeach! Yes democrats, go right ahead and spend the next two years focusing on that, assuring another win for the Republicans.
Posted by: Peachy | April 17, 2007 01:53 PM
Thank you Dennis I knew if anyone would come through it would be you. At least one politician still believes that the constitution is a useful safeguard of the rights of the people of the United States against the dangers of unbalanced executive power. For this president, vice president and the future of the democracy we need more brave and constitutionally mandated action like this. You have my support for this action.
Posted by: John L. | April 17, 2007 01:57 PM
If Bush and Cheney are not impeached then the idea of impeachment should never again be brought up. For the future of OUR democracy and the whole idea of "We the People" impeachment is the ONLY way to restore the ideals of our Founding Fathers.
Posted by: Ravenwood | April 17, 2007 01:57 PM
IMPEACH !!
Posted by: suexian | April 17, 2007 01:58 PM
YESSSSSS!!! Is America finally demanding our people to be responsible? YEAHHH!
Posted by: ddezignz | April 17, 2007 02:10 PM
Coo Coo Kucinich is running toward his base and away from reason and intellect. So whats new?
Posted by: TheHatMan | April 17, 2007 02:25 PM
I wish Kucinich would stop dreaming he has any shot at the presidency in this world. If he set his sights just a little lower, like a major cabinet position, he would be so much more effective. He is a brilliant and principled man, but he has so little charisma, how can he not see that?
that aside, I hope he has the cojones to follow through with this, and I hope he isn't hung out to dry for it. if these bastards don't deserve impeachment, then I can't imagine how far the next maniac mob will feel they have a mandate to go unopposed. spineless dems, I wish they'd just disband if they aren't going to even throw the ball back, so pathetic.
and if this country elects another monster to replace that robot if he's impeached, well to hell with us all.
Posted by: verdinckt | April 17, 2007 02:35 PM
What charges, specifically would be filed against Cheney--what crime or misdemeanor would be charged?
Cheney is a vile, stupid, cowardly man. He deserves to be put through every ringer we can think of, and I love that Kucinich is willing to squeeze the bastard. It may even work, if specific legal charges can be found.
I may even kick a few bucks Kucinich's way if he can pull this off...
Posted by: windserf | April 17, 2007 02:38 PM
YES--IMPEACH CHENEY. NOW, WHO WILL INTRODUCE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT AGAINST BUSH?
CHEERS FOR KUCINICH!
Posted by: Sarah R-M | April 17, 2007 02:42 PM
Contact your Rep.! Tell them to support Kucinich's Articles of Impeachment! I called and emailed Rep. DeFazio, my rep. Please do the same, email and call yours!
You can find your rep here: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Thanks Mary Ann for breaking the story.
Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2007 02:48 PM
Go for it Kucinich.
He has no chance of winning because he's as far to the left as Bush is to the right, and I think people are done with the extremes for now. Plus, impeachment has no chance of success due to the fact that Democrats do not carry the perception of having strength, so nobody is going to stand beside them in any endeavor of this magnitude.
So at the very least it could provide some entertainment as we head into the campaign season. I give him points for being creative though. Going after the VP is original. Maybe next he'll try to get Bush with a Court Marshall.
Posted by: crid | April 17, 2007 02:51 PM
I dearly hope this turns out to be true and not merely a rumor. Cheney is so vulnerable and there is no doubt he's the right place to start. Kucinich is truly taking a powerful leadership role here and I admire the man.
For those discounting his presidential aspirations, how about Kucinich/Obama in 08. Who would the GOP put against that ticket on the heels of an impeachment that inevitably reveals the depths of the GOPs bloodthirsty militarism? McCain?
Posted by: Thank the Lord | April 17, 2007 02:57 PM
I love it when Democratic leftist fringe types talk about impeaching Bush or Cheney since it really makes them seem like loons to the majority of people. Why cant the Dems just get a president elected rather than try to impeach? Also, exactly what crimes have been committed? I would like specifics on that last one, not vague canards like "lying to the people" or "mass murder".
Posted by: flyoverman | April 17, 2007 02:57 PM
It will happen if we want it to! That's all it takes. So do you want it? Another great representative to check out- http://RonPaulReport.squarespace.com
Posted by: Trevor Lyman | April 17, 2007 02:58 PM
If Kucinich follows through with this, he will instantly become the first and only candidate running for President in 2008.
Everyone else is simply running for Unitary Executive - hoping to assume the grossly expanded powers of this most corrupt, inept and morally bankrupt President.
Yet Cheney is by far the more sinister character of the two.
If you are not yet convinced of the impeachable offenses of both Bush and Cheney, please view them here:
http://www.impeachforpeace.org/evidence/
And please contact Kucinich through the Congressional Switchboard at: (202) 224-3121 to encourage him to do the right thing and follow through with this.
Then call your Representative and Senator and tell them to sign on with Kucinich. The Senate may not be in play at first, but the more members committed to honoring their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against these DOMESTIC ENEMIES TO THE CONSTITUTION who have occupied our White House.
Mikael Rudolph
www.ImpeachforPeace.org
minneapolis@impeachforpeace.org
Posted by: Mikael Rudolph | April 17, 2007 03:04 PM
How long will it take you propaganda disseminating genocidal apologists to figure out that Bush and Cheney and their gang are mass murderers, thieves, liars, and traitors. Anyone who had a basic civics class in high school that required reading (and understanding) the US Constitution and Bill of Rights should clearly see reason to impeach. Oh, wait. I keep forgetting most Americans haven't actually had the privilege of a proper civics class; so much for Democracy!
Posted by: King George | April 17, 2007 03:19 PM
Based on the Mineta 9.11 Commission Report testimony alone, Cheney MUST be impeached.
Posted by: Right on... | April 17, 2007 03:23 PM
I find this all hard to believe. On 9/11/01 the entire United States wanted Bush to do something and he did, the United States wanted to be rid of Hussein and we are. Now comes the calls for PRESIDENT PELOSI give me a break, she's conspiring with Syria who sponsors terrorism and she's wanting to go to Iran, and anyone with a pea brain knows about Iran. WHAT HAS THE PELOSI CROWD ACCOMPLISHED in their 1st 100 days of power?? absolutly NADDA, NOTHING, ZILCH, oh and by the way, she saw everyone but never had time to stop to see the troops, maybe she realized that wouldn't be a real good idea.
Well ya'll are probably have your dreams come true next year and when you get the likes of Hillary or some other block head I'll set back and say "TOLD YA SO"
Posted by: Danny | April 17, 2007 03:27 PM
It's about time a Democrat actually had some spine. What could have possibly come over America, to think that such a historically spineless party would actually rise to the occasion this time? Fortunately for us, there are still some mavericks like Kucinich who have not yet been silenced by their ultra-right wing masters (i.e. Hillary Clinton).
If the Republicans were like the Democrats, we'd have never gotten into any of this -- not because of wisdom, but simply because the Republicans would have pre-emptively psyched themselves out of every victory with the same defeatist attitude shown by the "liberals" commenting here.
Posted by: David Hennessy | April 17, 2007 03:28 PM
I can't prove this, but I don't have to because this is comment post and not a court of law.
I believe that Dick Cheney was involved with the Anthrax attacks on Patrick Lehey among others and that he ordered the downing of Paul Wellstone's plane.
Remember, this guy likes torture. He might even like it in a kinky way. Maybe he gets off to people suffering.
They call these people sadists. They do exist. They do tend to seek powerful positions.
Posted by: Alexjonesfan | April 17, 2007 03:44 PM
The US of A wasn't born from people incapable of taking risk, and more importantly, action in the face of wrongdoing. Assume what you want about the outcome; but is there ever a time that it's not worth it to do what is right? Justice needs to be done. Our country needs to be restored. This will only be done through action and holding those accountable that have had a hand in destroying what was once a great nation!
Posted by: Stefan | April 17, 2007 03:47 PM
Typical of a scummy DLC dem operative to skewer the only real liberal in the crummy party.
"We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.
Why are the febrile effing dems so hot to dismiss impeachment for what Are high crimes and misdemeanors, from lying us into war to massive and blatant cronyism and corruption? This is not an imaginary or politically motivated impeachment, like the repugs tried to do. They had the guts to do a bogus impeachment but the dems don't have the balls to go for a real one.
What a rotten party. I quit. I'll never vote Democrat again. What a scummy, nonrepresentatie party. The Majority of Americans would now go along with impeachment, and as disaster unfolds that majority will grow.
The DEADocrats suck. And all they'll give us as a choice for the next election is procorporate globalist warmonger Hillary, or prettyboy, emptyhead Obama (I heard him speak the usual jingoism against Chavez, which showed he has No idea of what we have done in Latin America for ages, or what the real situation is.)
Posted by: Jim Mooney | April 17, 2007 03:53 PM
Funny how everyone wants to hang him high without evidence. I read everything here and found no foundation for impeachment. What are the charges? Sorry, he "Mislead" or "Lied" isn't impeachable unless the lie is under oath. You people are fun to listen to but once again no truthful reason other than you suspect him or just don't like him. It takes a lot more than that kids.
Posted by: Rick | April 17, 2007 04:00 PM
See above. I'm with Jim.
Posted by: Herbert Hoover | April 17, 2007 04:03 PM
It would be awesome to see this war criminal impeached. The problem is that Cheney has already made billions from his Haliburton deals so he probably wouldn't even care if he was impeached. He's so rich he can go buy 100,000 acres in any country he wishes, like Bush has already bought land to plot his escape destination.
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 04:03 PM
How many kinds of treason must this one man commit, until SOMEONE calls him out on it? Why, if "liberals" are such whimps, is it a liberal standing up, taking the old man to task?
Posted by: Prissy | April 17, 2007 04:10 PM
The guy who wrote this blog response below is truly an a-h0le. No wonder the whacky left gets ZERO respect beyond its own echo-chamber in the blog-o-sphere.
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"It is too bad the shooter at VT spent all of his mojo on students and faculty.
Posted by: mmather | April 17, 2007 11:20 AM"
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Posted by: Dave From Alexandria | April 17, 2007 04:13 PM
what kind of moronic Democratic aide would "quip" that "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment."
Don't these people understand the crimes that Cheney has committed? How despised he is by the American people? (protests at BYU!)
Cheney certainly should be impeached, and Democrats should be rallying behind his impeachment, not cowering behind their lobbyist's losing advice.
Posted by: mike g | April 17, 2007 04:13 PM
Rick, STOP..."without evidence" tells me you are either loyal to the point of watching your constitution go up in smoke or you aren't educated enough. I'll go with the latter. Now go to this website http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/- read all the court certified evidence and then try to tell us he's innocent. It's all there in his own handwriting...
Posted by: Uncle Sammy | April 17, 2007 04:14 PM
Rick - your stupidity is stunning.
Posted by: Dave | April 17, 2007 04:17 PM
Just another "non-binding" proposal
Posted by: yellowdog | April 17, 2007 04:17 PM
I hope this pans out. I'd like to see that evil SOB squirm.
Posted by: John Paul | April 17, 2007 04:22 PM
The fact that WaPo posts this without censor is impressive-especially considering the Editor performance of the last 6 years. Did they finally realize they better tell the truth or watch the country perish until the rule of one man?
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 04:23 PM
Go Dennis Go!!!
Posted by: Jeff in Ohio | April 17, 2007 04:26 PM
Rep. Kucinich was right FROM THE BEGINNING when he voted against the Iraq War and he is right about this also. One of the few in Congress with the insight, integrity and guts to support the laws of the Constitution. You show a lot of love for America Rep. Kucinich!! Actions like yours may restore some sense of morality to the American Govt. and begin to regain some respect overseas to America. It's simply outrageous what this admin is doing to our beloved America and to it's citizens.
Posted by: FreedomRider | April 17, 2007 04:26 PM
They deserve not only impeachment, but a full public trial in the system they have undermined or ignored for six years. And if/when found guilty, they should be placed in prison for hard time. Let them try to spend their ill-gotten gains then!
BTW, if they run, they open themselves to being arrested and charged under international law, under which it would be much harder for them to evade serious punishment. Why do you think Bush wouldn't sign on to the war crimes act?
Posted by: cosmogenium | April 17, 2007 04:30 PM
Seems the nation is waking up and finally rising up to the real terrorists.....
Good luck from Amsterdam
Posted by: J. Portland | April 17, 2007 04:30 PM
Impeach both Bush and Cheney simultaneously. That way if it works, Pelosi becomes president.
It won't work, but it will be fun trying. After all, if Specter can rail against the Patriot Act Reauthorization because it revokes the right of habeus corpus, claiming that we would be doing away with one of the rights passed on down from the magna carta, and then goes and votes for the blasted thing, well, he will never vote to convict. What a tool.
Posted by: coltergeist | April 17, 2007 04:31 PM
It is astounding to read some of the comments above, so many of them have nothing to do with the subject of why impeachment makes sense for Cheney and Dumbya. The obvious criminal activity of this administration should have any American upset to say the least, but no it has to be dragged down to a partisan issue.
Not only are the crimes of Cheney and Dumbya impeachablr offenses but some of their dirty deeds are clearly in violation of international law. I an not a Democrat and surly not a Neocon Republican but how anyone could support some of these Dems that have taken impeachment "off the table" is beyond me. What Clinton did was just so minor compared to what is going on, these people are tyrants and need a jail cell. I say give Cheney and Dumbya one more term - Life in prison.
Posted by: Dmitri | April 17, 2007 04:32 PM
maybe an article of impeachment should be about those missing e-mails which will soon turn into entire missing computers no doubt. rumour has it that one has been found in a field in wyoming. sources tell me it appears to have been destroyed with several blast fired from of all things, a shotgun! well, thats just a real crude way to attempt to hide the facts. kucinich should worry about his voting record on iraq as well. voting for an immediate withdrawal and therefore helping to diminish support for the democrats lacks any sense of pragmatism whtsoever dennis baby! so lets get real and get on to some reality, o.k.? this is why even though you got my vote last time around you won"t get it this time. we all want to get cheney and get out of iraq but we need to go after the money and deadlines and not just cut and run.cheney will hang himself and leave behind the legacy of a snarling weasel and that's o.k. with me. patience, patience, dennis.
Posted by: logan | April 17, 2007 04:33 PM
Very smart to go after Cheney rather than Bush. Cheney control's the show and it's his willful ignorance and incompetence that is primarily responsible for the worst military fiasco in American history, as well as the pervasive corruption of the Bush administration. It won't stick, but you have to start somewhere.
Posted by: Craig | April 17, 2007 04:36 PM
Well there is quite a body of work out there spelling out the grounds for impeachment. United States v. George W. Bush et al. by Elizabeth de la Vega, a former federal prosecutor is quite compelling. Also there is The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office by Dave Lindorff. AND there is Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney by Dennis Loo. Sooo before you Fox News viewers go off deriding the loony left for advocating impeachment you should educate yourselves. Here's a hint, you are not going to find the facts on Fox News.
Posted by: Scotter | April 17, 2007 04:37 PM
"The lack of leadership by the Democratic Party makes really solidifies my Green Party affiliation.
Criminals should not be allowed to run our country.
Posted by: Robert | April 17, 2007 11:51 AM"
Well Robert, while it's nice to have ideals and convictions that draw you to the likes of the Green party, your inability to foresee the effects of a wasted vote contributed to that moron Bush getting installed as president in 2000. Thanks a lot.
Posted by: John Paul | April 17, 2007 04:39 PM
I'm all for it. Kucinich is currently getting my vote.
You cant impeach bush and put cheney in charge. BUT you can impeach cheney and THEN impeach bush. cheney's arrogance will be his downfall, the information that comes out in his trial would be enough to impeach bush.
In a perfect world they would then be tried for warcrimes.
Posted by: KenF | April 17, 2007 04:39 PM
"The proposed action by Kucinich may well explain why he is near last place among even Democratic presidential candidates: political zeal not balanced by political smarts."
Dear John G:
I tend to think that your comment is somewhat ironic, considering that Kucinich bases his "zeal" on solid evidence and not feelings and rhetoric, which you classify as "political smarts," unlike his Democratic counterparts that are doing far better in the polls. It goes to show what a nice haircut, Armani suit and perfectly placed photo ops can do. Quit pandering to mainstream media and wake up to reality.
Posted by: Newman | April 17, 2007 04:40 PM
I think the one thing that everyone here has overlooked is that if both Bush and Cheney are impeached, then Pelosi takes over. I think that would be worse then letting those SOBs stay where they are until the term is over.
Posted by: sane1inthecrowd | April 17, 2007 04:46 PM
"....quipped one Democratic aide?" Impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors is not a subject matter of "quips." It is deadly serious business and this aide's boss better take the pulse of his/her constituents ...I'm betting there is a lot of support for such an action. We need to get the military and intelligence and treasury out of Cheney's grimy, greedy little fingers.
Thank you, Dennis...your integrity is showing.
Posted by: Sandy D. | April 17, 2007 04:47 PM
Finally some good news out of this Congress. I wonder how long it will be before the Congressional 'leadership' tries to pull the rug out from under DK for fear of being called nasty names.
GO DENNIS!
Posted by: Joe Hill | April 17, 2007 04:50 PM
Excellent move, one that I hope will be fruitful. Impeachment says a lot about the character of the American people not tolerating a wrong path administration deterined to ruin our country.
Don't worry about the Republicans, 22 of them switched sides and won seats int eh House as Democrats. Hagel was the first in all Congress to suggest Bush be impeached and he is a Republican.
Go Dennis go - if this is true it will make Mr. K popular with the people and unpopular with all those guilty of ruining our counrty. On the topic of impeachment, you are either with Bush and Cheney or you are against them. I think most Americans are against them and for their removal from office.
Tivana
WashingtonFORimpeachment.org
Posted by: Tivana | April 17, 2007 04:51 PM
What a dem love fest!!!
Take a pil and get over it Bush is our president and the majority put him there.
Also congress rubber stamped the war in Iraq including the dems.
Posted by: BillyB | April 17, 2007 04:52 PM
And all those who support this corrupt administration should go sign up to fight this war instead of offering up other peoples' children. They have even upped the age limit so get off your lazy butts and go fight since Bush has you so scared of the terrorists. Cowards.
Posted by: jaynine | April 17, 2007 04:54 PM
Rep. Kucinich will find he has more support than he could have imagined.
But why wait? Awful news of any kind should make action more immediate instead of less so. After all, more people die everyday for Cheney's and Bush's war.
To say enough death is not disrespectful; quite the contrary...Start by going after Dr. Death.
Posted by: judy | April 17, 2007 04:57 PM
"What a dem love fest!!!
Take a pil and get over it Bush is our president and the majority put him there.
Also congress rubber stamped the war in Iraq including the dems.
Posted by: BillyB | April 17, 2007 04:52 PM "
BillyB - Go back to your beer.
Posted by: John Paul | April 17, 2007 05:02 PM
Newman...Thanks for saying one of the things I wanted to go into. BRAVO!
ANYONE who puts down D.K. for this courageous and much-needed and, apparently, well thought out move needs to go to www.kucinich.us and learn a few things about this man. He is a dream come true for WE THE PEOPLE! As someone else above said, stop being a pawn to mainstream media. This man is the real deal for us REAL Americans...not the top 1% of tax-avoiding, ludicrously wealthy.
Dennis, Get the ball rolling on the bastards, and we'll sit back and see the wussies in Dem party who squirm and the ones who stand beside you.
Posted by: Robert A. Brown | April 17, 2007 05:03 PM
Definitely start with Cheney, because if we impeach Bush first, then Cheney gets to be president. Even FIVE MINUTES with Dick Cheney is 10 minutes TOO LONG
Posted by: Jimmy G | April 17, 2007 05:04 PM
Well praise the Lord and pass the peace pipe. If we now apply Darth Cheney's One Percent Doctrine to him, it'll be a cinch.
Dick Cheney believes if one percent of the details look fishy, there's probably a whale in the picture. I agree when it comes to him.
Posted by: Kax | April 17, 2007 05:14 PM
Can't come soon enough.
Posted by: Send Him to Gitmo | April 17, 2007 05:14 PM
"Take a pil and get over it Bush is our president and the majority put him there."
Posted by: BillyB | April 17, 2007 04:52 PM
... a majority that has since dwindled to roughly 30 percent. The pill to help "get over" this nightmare of an administration starts with an 'i' and ends with an "mpeachment". What a perfect way for the country to tell Darth Cheney exactly what he told Sen. Leahy a few years ago on the floor of the U.S. Senate.
Posted by: xii | April 17, 2007 05:17 PM
Dennis is awesome! It's about time someone in DC told the truth.
Posted by: BT | April 17, 2007 05:17 PM
Why should Kucinich wait on taking action - even though his articles of impeachment don't have a chance in hell of being acted upon - because of the Virginia Tech massacre? It sounds like he's just looking for some much needed media attention.
Posted by: Eric blair | April 17, 2007 05:20 PM
xii: you mean Cheney used the F word? I'm horrified. Yeah, nail the SOB.
Posted by: John Paul | April 17, 2007 05:20 PM
What will Bush, Cheney's hand puppet, do without Cheney? While Kucinich may not be the most astute politician or the most popular, sometimes even a child can see the right of an action. We need to remove the puppet master before he comes up something even bigger for Bush to do.
Posted by: Bob | April 17, 2007 05:21 PM
Finally! Go Denis!!!
Posted by: SB | April 17, 2007 05:23 PM
There is surely much more cause (and evidence) to impeach Bush and/or Cheney than there was to impeach Clinton.
However, impeachment is really not the proper mechanism for mitigating against the damage of the Bush Administration. THere was an election in 2006 where the voters had a chance to speak and there will be another in 2008.
I suspect thre will be very few candidates asking either the outgoing VP or POTUS to campaign for them.
Posted by: GR Sloan | April 17, 2007 05:27 PM
Thank you Dennis.
Posted by: Peter | April 17, 2007 05:28 PM
Impeachment of chaney,would be about the most stupid idea i have heard. Bush is the supposed to be president,even though we know he doe;s not run anything. cut off the head, and the tail will die.Impeach bush ,problem solved. chaney will automatically go.one impeachment is enough, if it is G.Bush. signed tip.
Posted by: charles hendrix | April 17, 2007 05:29 PM
All Roads Lead to Dick Cheney
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/02/all-roads-lead-to-dick-cheney.html
Posted by: Jesse Jones | April 17, 2007 05:30 PM
Bravo, Kucinich! Now, maybe the MSM and the pollsters will start asking the impeachment question every week!
Posted by: sally | April 17, 2007 05:34 PM
Forget the political ramifications of this. This country needs, for a brief moment at least, to step way back beyond politics and see what has happened in the last six years. Perhaps we need a serious course-correction and perhaps, if Cheney is indeed guilty of the things most posters have written about, then this is the event that needs to happen next. No one knows the effect truth will have on the future. But I would be willing to bet that the airing out of all that has festered in the minds on both sides would be a good thing for this country. Lets do it and move on.
We've got big issues to tackle in the near future and I don't think the current administration is up to the task. If nothing else, we can show the world that we can ask the tough questions of our leaders. No red, no blue just the white truth please.
Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2007 05:34 PM
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST, as the bumper sticker says.
The ball is already rolling all over the United States:
http://www.impeach07.org Yes, other Dems wouldn't initiate it -
they're too chicken. But if WE push for it and the media at least
get out of the way, Congress will follow (mooo!)
I saw All the President's Men again last night. We need just
a little luck and Woodward & Bernstein circa 1973 (bring back
THAT Washington Post) and the hearings, prosecutions and
resignations can be completed in a few short months.
No kidding.
Violence is cowardly. Peace takes courage.
Kucinich is a visionary with guts to spare.
Posted by: Nina | April 17, 2007 05:35 PM
You conspiracy spinners need to get back on your meds.
Posted by: Fel8Moi | April 17, 2007 05:37 PM
You folks need to stop beating the dead horse and get on with business that impacts us all. Impeachment (Cheney or Bush) is of no value to the American people. Quit trying to run up the score. It is time to quit looking back and move forward. Work for your candidate in 08 and quit living in the past. To be truthful, the biggest crime during this administration was Sandy "Burglar" stealing and destroying classified documents from the National Archive.
Bird (Las Cruces, NM)
Posted by: BIRD | April 17, 2007 05:38 PM
First Rosie on 9/11, now Dennis on impeachment... it seems our "enemies" are becoming our friends.
Posted by: Anonymous Coward | April 17, 2007 05:38 PM
Impeachment is neccessary or we are endorsing everything that this administration has done. Irregardless of consequences, crimes must be punished. The guilty must be prosecuted, or justice dies. Accountability has to be the word we live by. No one is above the law. The Constitution spells out the relationship of the justice department to the executive branch and warns that it must be diligent and on gaurd against corruption by the executive branch. Justice must prevail. The Vice President and the President should no longer represent the people of the United States if they are criminals.
Posted by: Clarion | April 17, 2007 05:39 PM
Not enough votes in the senate.
UNLESS THIS GETS MASSIVE PUBLIC SUPPORT!
Get busy everybody.
Get the word out.
Call, email, etc.
Posted by: V | April 17, 2007 05:39 PM
"It is too bad the shooter at VT spent all of his mojo on students and faculty." Posted by: mmather | April 17, 2007 11:20 AM
Yeah, he should have saved some for the leftist traitors, like mmather and the rest of you morons who are ENCOURAGING THE JIHADISTS TO FIGHT HARDER.
Posted by: Joe Sixpack | April 17, 2007 05:40 PM
I sympathize with the passion I read in the comments, and also believe that both should be removed from office.
Unfortunately I can't ignore that which no one has mentioned: if the goal is removal, then at the moment impeachment simply won't work.
Even with a bare majority of Americans agreeing (& thus lessening whatever backlash would come from a Senate trial in which they were acquitted, as they would be), it requires a super majority of Senate votes to remove an impeached office holder.
Go ahead, count the votes for removal in the Senate and tell me how many Republicans will vote to remove these two (or either one seperately) from office?
(Crickets chirping in the long, long, long silence.........)
Posted by: oddjob | April 17, 2007 05:40 PM
G_ddammit this is funny! I can only hope that Mrs. Pelosi is stupid enough to help Lil' Dennis out and bring this to the floor! It would be the death knell for the defeatocrat party, IMHO.
Posted by: Alan | April 17, 2007 05:41 PM
Bravo, Bravo!!! Dennis! Now we must ask ourselves how we can get the rest of these gutless democrats to see what must be done now. I'm quickly becoming as angry at the dems than I ever was against the reps. How dare they not to have started holding these full-blown criminals accountable for their hideous crimes against the American people and millions of other people around the world; the Earth itself.
Posted by: James Benton | April 17, 2007 05:42 PM
Liberal Scum.
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 05:43 PM
I've felt for several years that the reason why democratic congressmen are only a few percentage points more popular than republicans is because the people think they should be doing more to rid our nation of cheney and bush. If Kucinich's popularity raises after he files to impeach cheney it might finally send this message to the rest of the bunch.
Posted by: Orville Gunther | April 17, 2007 05:44 PM
Here is the best basis for impeachment.
Posted by: Attorney And Former Law School Professor | April 17, 2007 05:45 PM
jaynine: Many who support the War on Terror and the administration ALREADY SERVED in the military, or didn't you realize that? Look at the Gathering of Eagles last month, who protected the Vietnam Memorial from leftist crazies:
http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com
Posted by: Frank | April 17, 2007 05:46 PM
If presidential candidates were chosen for their intellect and commitment to the people of this country, Dennis Kucinich would have gotten the nomination instead of the wealthy and well-connected Kerry.
But it could turn out ok in the end if Kucinich can pull this off.
Kucinich has courage, brains, and heart to spare - he deserves our unfailing support because he's doing this for every citizen of this country.
Posted by: Leonard | April 17, 2007 05:48 PM
As this US Attorney scandal is investigated more thoroughly, it will become apparent that the reason why this scandal is so scary, is the election laws and voting irregularities are at the heart of the scandal. One of the reasons the firings happened right after the Nov election was that the GOP doesn't want to lose another eletction. My analysis leads me to believe that both the 2000 and the 2004 election were rigged to give Bush et al the win. They didn't rig the last election enough. The rethuglicans never understood just how much they were going to lose by. they estimated 7 to 10%. Never dreamed they were goimg to lose by such big margins and the rigging couldn't make up for that much of a difference. Just check the exit polls and the actual numbers. As usual, they don't match up like they always did before the Bush people and their corrupt voting machines were in place.
We have this one window of opportunity to get rid of these crooks. We may never have another as these crooks are in the process of consolidating power and stacking the courts and the US Attorneys and the media and the Army and the Blackwell mercinary army. Impeach Cheney and Bush and indict Rove and the others.
Posted by: Ali B | April 17, 2007 05:48 PM
I'll bet some of you hippies will go crazy next year when a conservative GOP ex-senator named Fred Thompson is elected president. Eight years of a real conservative like Reagan might be enough to bring this country back to where it was when I was growing up.
Posted by: Harry Lime | April 17, 2007 05:50 PM
....."But Kucinich shouldn't hold his breath on getting anywhere with his impeachment plan. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide."....
The new dynamics of NH politics are not well known outside of local activist circles, but I can assure you that we are laughing at the uninformed media coronations of the "Big Three" Dems. Watch & learn, grasshopper.
Posted by: IrregardlessNH | April 17, 2007 05:53 PM
I'm all for giving the VP a fair trail, and then hanging the ***.
Posted by: g Anton | April 17, 2007 05:54 PM
This may not have the backing of the House and Senate. It may not even have the backing of the many spineless Democrats, but it's the right thing to do.
Posted by: bill | April 17, 2007 05:58 PM
About time.
Posted by: LeepII | April 17, 2007 06:00 PM
"Peachy" writes: "Impeach! Yes democrats, go right ahead and spend the next two years focusing on that, assuring another win for the Republicans."
You mean, like removing Nixon insured a win for the RepugniCONs in '76?
Exposing the lies and criminality of the Bush/Cheney Gang is going to ensure the election of a RepugniCON in '08? Sorry, not buying it.
Impeachment proceedings -- even if unsuccessful -- would drag the full depravity of this maladministration into the light of the day. It's the RepugniCONs' worst nightmare. So save your "helpful" advice, okay?
Posted by: hbm | April 17, 2007 06:01 PM
Impeachment trial first, war crimes trial second, treason trial third.
Posted by: Mike | April 17, 2007 06:01 PM
It is quite amazing to read the vitriol and hatred from the wacky leftist that dominate this site. You people need to get a life or maybe read the Constitution, maybe Article 2.
By your standards Franklin Delano Roosevelt would not be considered the greatest President of this century, but a disgraced man that was impeached and driven from office. What Roosevelt did to civil liberties in the name of national security makes George Bush look like a Girl Scout. If any historical precedent was considered at all in judging Bush's actions versus the actions of other President's, particularly Lincoln and Roosevelt, this President would walk away completely unscathed.
Secondly, you little whining morons have claimed for years Bush "lied" about Weapons of Mass Destruction. When Bob Woodward's book came out and described George Tenet telling the President the WMD's in Iraq were a "slam dunk" you simply ignored it. When you read a transcript or heard an audio clip of almost every Democrat leader in the House and Senate saying the exact same things about Hussein and Iraq as Bush did you ignored that too. Since you people really know the truth there is only one conclusion; It is you people that are liars and scoundrels and if you can hide the truth or distort the facts to get your way you are quite willing to do so.
You people are truly pathetic.
Posted by: Charles McFarling | April 17, 2007 06:04 PM
By pardoning Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford lost the support of American voters and greatly increased general apathy and cynicism regarding accountability in government. Now, having reached the point where Americans see glaring evidence of the most corrupt administration since the age of robber barons, citizens simply will not take it any more. Now, even as a retired, life-long Republican, I am one of them. I have absolutely had it.
It is painfully evident that the highest levels of my party and American democracy itself are being hijacked by corrupt ideologues funded by corrupt corporations and religious groups. At long last "We The People" are uniting to face this real and present danger, arming ourselves with facts, and acting decisively to take back American democracy. We will impeach Bush and Cheney and prosecute to the full extent of the law those who have defrauded, deceived and stolen from us. Once again we citizens have learned, at enormous cost to coming generations, to keep personally involved in the responsibilities of American democracy.
Recently, in a Middlebury VT town meeting led by Gov. Douglas himself, citizens passed a resolution to impeach George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. A Putney VT, vote to impeach was unanimous. More than 36 towns passed similar resolutions and it's happening all over America. These are inspiring examples of citizens uniting to take back their government and to re-affirm Constitutional accountability, equal justice and equal protection under the law. What a great time to be an American!
Posted by: sslyon | April 17, 2007 06:05 PM
"BIRD" writes: "It is time to quit looking back and move forward."
Yes, no doubt all you RepugniCONs would like us to overlook the crimes of the Bush/Cheney Gang and act as if the past six years never happened. "Move along, folks -- nothing to see here."
But guess what -- we're not in a mood to oblige you. We will "move forward" when and how we damn well please, thank you.
Posted by: hbm | April 17, 2007 06:07 PM
Dennis Kucinich - a true patriot!! Thank you , Dennis!!
Posted by: Sean McKernan | April 17, 2007 06:09 PM
"Rick" writes: "Funny how everyone wants to hang him high without evidence."
By no means -- have a thorough investigation first. That's what holding hearings and a debate over an impeachment resolution will accomplish.
Evidence first, THEN hang him.
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 06:10 PM
Might as well do Bush AND Cheney at the same time. They are both criminals.
Posted by: wdb | April 17, 2007 06:10 PM
While this is long overdue, and is on target, our Congress does not have the integrity to back it up.
The best that could be hoped for is that nations all over the world will take out warrants for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and many others as war criminals, and if and when they should enter any of those countries, they be arrested and charged and tried in the World Court.
You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
Posted by: Dennis | April 17, 2007 06:12 PM
McFarling: It is statements like yours that will consign the RepugniCON Party to the dustbin of history -- deservedly so.
There is absolutely no comparison between the REAL wars FDR and Lincoln had to fight and the trumped-up, phony war manufactured by the Bush/Cheney Gang for their own aggrandizement.
BTW it's amusing to hear you call us "whackos" when your great president enjoys the support of only 30 percent of the country. Sure must be a lotta "whackos" out there.
Posted by: hbm | April 17, 2007 06:14 PM
It's clear from reading the comments here that the Bush/Cheney dead-enders have learned absolutely nothing from the 2006 elections or what has followed.
You have been MARGINALIZED, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted by: hbm | April 17, 2007 06:17 PM
Dick Cheney will be impeached in one for or another. Rep. (D) Dennis Kucinich is on the right track with an open letter and invitation of impeachment. America, along with the world, is truly fed up with the present installed regime in America today. The killings at Virginia Tech are just the tip of the iceburg, as to how this administration of illegally installed individuals have destroyed the very fibre of a once free society. Money and greed are not the answer.....
Posted by: Stavo | April 17, 2007 06:18 PM
Reagan should have been impeached for the Iran contra scandal. The failure to remove him from office set a precedent which has enabled the Bush/Cheney cabal to literally "get away with murder". We can thank Reagan for the disatrous foreign policy generations to follow will be paying the price for in every conceivable way. The rest of us pay the price for American stupidity.
Kucinich is on the right track. Impeachment resolutions and investigations were drafted long ago documenting the crimes and felonies of both men. To date Congress is complicit in the holocaust they have created in Iraq which makes how Hitler managed his genocide in Nazi Germany more understandable.
That Nancy Pelosi has glibly dismissed impeachment for having better things to do with her time is a direct assault on her constituents as well as failure to uphold the oath under which she assumed her office. She has a moral duty to uphold the Constitution which she is miserably failing to do. Her counterparts follow suit.
Today Kucinich is the only Democratic candidate worth spending time on. If we fail to impeach, however, 2008 will be another coup and our democracy will then be as good as dead.
What is most amazing is that so many Americans insist upon remaining in a state of absolute denial to the truth of what is happening around them. Is there any wonder that atrocities like Virginia Tech happen on our soil when Americans are reared on Star Wars, nintendo games, and "shock and awe"?
We have razed the country of Iraq and created a holocaust equally as evil as Hitler's for all of ten years worth of oil. Hundreds of thousands of people murdered so Americans can hit the highway in behemouth SUVs? This isn't the American Dream -- it's the American Nightmare.
Meanwhile, as Bush has indebted us to China for trillions upon trillions of dollars, that country develops the most sophisticated technology in the world to assure their own sustainability while in the bat of an eyelash they could bankrupt the USA. All for oil and corporate greed.
The USA has been sold down the river, lock, stock and barrel.
Oh, yes, another 8 years of a Conservative like Reagan is just what America needs right now. Another actor for president. And another chimp.
Posted by: SFisher | April 17, 2007 06:19 PM
Much as it might briefly feel good, we can't impeach Cheney first. Then Bush could appoint a VP who might actually be an attractive candidate in 2008 and then wouldn't we all feel foolish. No, either impeach both or neither.
Posted by: Fritz | April 17, 2007 06:21 PM
there is no way he or any lib will get anywhere with that crap all you libs are just sore losers
Posted by: mike byrd | April 17, 2007 06:26 PM
Help Kucinich to Impeach Bush
Kucinich says he's ALSO pursuing impeachment of Bush. Well let's help him out. Sacks and sacks of mail are about to arrive in Dennis Kucinich's office initiating impeachment via the House of Representative's own rules. This legal document is as binding as if a State or if the House itself passed the impeachment resolution (H.R. 635).
Kucinich says he is building his case for impeachment, and is working to build the support of his peers in Congress. He says he intends to impeach. He said he needs us to keep building the groundswell of support for impeachment all over the country. He asks that we send him copies of all the resolutions passed in various States, local Legislative Districts, County Districts and of any petitions with signatures, so that he can present them to the floor of the House. He said he felt that our framing the issue of impeachment in terms of the Constitution is a principled choice, and ultimately more effective than just acting on anger. Here's video of Kucinich addressing the impeachment issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAIJyKhJhiM
Let's answer Kucinich's call with a petition that has it's precedent in history, and it's legitimacy in the Rules of the House of Representatives.
There's a little known and rarely used clause of the "Jefferson Manual" in the rules for the House of Representatives which sets forth the various ways in which a president can be impeached. Only the House Judiciary Committee puts together the Articles of Impeachment, but before that happens, someone has to initiate the process.
That's where we come in. In addition to a House Resolution (635), or the State-by-State method, one of the ways to get impeachment going is for individual citizens like you and me to submit a memorial. ImpeachforPeace.org has created a new memorial based on one which was successful in impeaching a federal official in the past. You can find it on their website as a PDF.
You can initiate the impeachment process and simultaneously help Kucinich to follow through with the process. Do-It-Yourself by downloading the memorial, filling in the relevant information (your name, state, etc.), and sending it in. We're not only having you send them to Dennis now, but also to Impeach for Peace. That way, we can collect them all in one place, and deliver them all simultaneously (with cameras rolling) in July. Be a part of history.
Posted by: Jodin Morey | April 17, 2007 06:27 PM
Begin the impeachment hearings with Cheney first ... and leave time for the trial for treason
Business before pleasure ... first Cheney, then Bush
Posted by: Lance R B | April 17, 2007 06:27 PM
You people are truly pathetic.
Posted by: Charles McFarling | April 17, 2007 06:04 PM
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Charles, The majority of Americans support the impeachment of both Bush and Cheney. Why do you hate America? Why aren't you defending the Constitution as vigorously as you're defending Bush/Cheney. Stop putting party loyalty ahead of the country.
Posted by: Sonofabastard | April 17, 2007 06:27 PM
I am so sick and tired of hearing , " oh ," we can't do that " or " its a non starter " or other such crap . If this crowd hasn't reached the level of impeachment then they might as well strike the articles from the constitution because apparently no crime can reach the level required .
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 06:31 PM
Virginia Patriot, Patrick Henry once stated:"For my part, whatever anquish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and provide for it." There is compelling and conclusive evidence that the tragedy of 9-11-01 was a false-flag, "inside-job"operation (engineered and covered-up by the Bush/Cheney administration). This heinous crime has been used by this law-breaking and sadistic regime to "justify" all their other illegal, immoral, callous, and depraved atrocities. This "treason" on 9-11 must be placed at the top of the list of impeachable offenses of Bush and Cheney. Only by addressing this most grave and important issue can we truly restore decency, integrity, and goodness to what was once a Constitutional Republic.
Posted by: Frances Scarcille | April 17, 2007 06:31 PM
REPUBLICAN VOCABULARY
***********************
Impeachment = The House believes Bush is peachy.
Conviction = The Senate believes Bush is a man of convictions
Being Hanged for treason = Suspension of disbelief
Posted by: Sonofabastard | April 17, 2007 06:32 PM
Dennis is the only one that has the guts to tell the truth. No, his chances of becoming Preisdent are slim, but his is a very important voice in the Congress...Anyone who goes after Cheney is ok in my book!
Posted by: JD | April 17, 2007 06:33 PM
Reading the stupidity posted here never fails to bring a laugh and brighten my day.
((((MUHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!))))
Posted by: Dick Cheney | April 17, 2007 06:40 PM
What world do you guys live in? THIS ISN'T A DEMOCRACY!!! (and to you other whiners out there, no it's not a republic either).
More than half of the thirteen colonies were FOUNDED by Corporations! Unelected rich, property owning, slave 'owning' white males came up with a business model that would work for THEM. And it has.
If this were a democracy, Congress would have had some spine in 2003, when EVERY Congressmember had calls in a landslide AGAINST the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq.
So to think that "Congress" might actually represent us NOW (why, because of Pelosi and the "Demcorats"?) flies in the face of all evidence and common sense, and means that you are in DENIAL!
The 2006 "election" was no more legitimate than the ones in 2000 and 2004. Oh yeah, and all the ones before that! Remember ballot box stuffing, dead people voting, poll taxes and literacy tests, LBJ almost challenging Kennedy in '60? Oops, sorry, that's no longer valid because it's "old news"!
And as for Kucinich?! I almost fell for his scam in 2004, with all his talk about ending the wars, unions, withdrawing from NAFTA, and blah blah blah. But he is in the position he's in for a reason - in order to succeed in politics, it's often neccessary to rise above your principles. When push came to shove, he could've gone independent and had a real platform for serious topics in the campaign, but he bent over for the "Democratic" party so he could play nice in DC and have another go round in 2008.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FASCISM!
This is not a democracy, so start acting accordingly!
Posted by: SLKirish | April 17, 2007 06:40 PM
With Dick's approval rating hovering around 18 % , I think there is going to be WAY more support out there for impeachment than this article suggests. Cheney is borderline delusional and I don't think it is good for the country to just "wait out" Bush's time in office. A lot of nasty stuff can happen in the next 18 months.
It would be really interesting if WaPo and the other big polls started asking the public if they are for it.
Posted by: Maria | April 17, 2007 06:42 PM
Unfortunately - this a a big PIE in the SKY. NEVER happen!!!!!
Posted by: Tom | April 17, 2007 06:44 PM
You people are a bunch of hard core socialists. The nation needs to be sundered because I hate you as much as you hate Repblicans. Either that, or get ready to rumble.
Posted by: Rick | April 17, 2007 06:44 PM
I think I'll send Kucinich another $50.00. At least he is doing something. If the 51% that hate Bush's guts did that, we would have a kucinich administration and a better world.
Unfortunately, money equals votes in America and the Zionist are giving our money to the republicans to get us to fight Israels wars.
Fight back!
Posted by: Ray | April 17, 2007 06:50 PM
You guys are so funny...Impeaching the Veep...Hoooo HooooHahaha...How about citing a specific example of a law that was broken and back it up with PROOF?
Oh, I forgot facts don't mean a thing to left wing extremists...
Posted by: Harry | April 17, 2007 06:50 PM
Some of these comments by the left wing marxists are funny. Conspiracy everywhere. Dennis the Menence put Cleveland into Bankruptcy in the '70s and given a chance he would do it to the USA also.
Posted by: JG | April 17, 2007 06:53 PM
Let's see - Democrats in Congress want what?
Oh, Pelosi as POTUS and who? Murtha for VP -
Then we could have a major battle on where we should move the Capitol - Pelosi will want to follow the yellow brick road to peace all the way to Tehran, and Murtha will want the Capitol to be re-deployed to Okinawa.
This ranks right along with - Al Gore is the one who plotted 9/11 - to get back at Bush.
Posted by: DelaWhere | April 17, 2007 07:03 PM
Would this make Nancy Pelosi VP?
Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | April 17, 2007 07:05 PM
Impeachment should not be a political tool. Impeachment should not even be a choice. If someone is percieved as doing something impeachable, then they should be investigated and should be impeached if the investigations warrants it. It is our representatives' duty to impeach if the evidence is there.
Posted by: DNA | April 17, 2007 07:06 PM
Whatever happened to diplomacy and negotiation?
Posted by: Red River | April 17, 2007 07:06 PM
Republicans are either evil or stupid. You can tell which one by how much money they make.
Posted by: Dan | April 17, 2007 07:07 PM
Hey Charles, I guess you missed that news about George Tenet saying that he NEVER said "slam dunk". Perhaps if Cheney wasn't over at the CIA brow-beating intelligence officers into buying his paranoid worldview they would have been better able to voice the dissent that existed within the agency concerning those "WMD" in Iraq. What will it take for you rabid Republicans to take a clear-eyed, honest look at this band of incompetent losers and killers that you still manage to support?
I'm proud to be a "crazy" liberal. We read newspapers, and books for that matter.
A steady diet of Fox News and OxyRush Limbaugh will make you fat, stupid and terrified. The perfect Republican audience.
People like you would rather target liberals as Public Enemy Number One than focus on your own corrupt leaders.
If Clinton had gotten us mired down in a War of Choice in Iraq with over 3300 coming home in body bags I dare say, Charles, that you would have been calling for him to be thrown out of office as well. Show a little intellectual honestly at the very least. If it is only "liberal scum" like me that are fed up with Bush then I am surprised because then it would be 66% of America that has suddenly morphed into a bunch of "pinko-hippie commies'. Give it up already.
Posted by: Maria | April 17, 2007 07:08 PM
I guess the Democrats/Socialists haven't authorized the issue of "smart pills" with the grape KoolAid to their mentally stunted minions....
Posted by: SFSGM | April 17, 2007 07:08 PM
IMPEACH CHANEY,,,IMPEACH Mr.CHANEY,,,IMPEACH VICE-PRESIDENT CHANEY,,,IMPEACH HIDDEN PRESIDENT CHANEY............................................................Charles Belenchia
Posted by: charles belenchia | April 17, 2007 07:08 PM
Say the word impeachment and the Air America crowd runs to the idea like starving wolves to a moose carcass. Go ahead, try it. Gutless if you don't. Oh I forgot, courage isn't your strong suit, is it?
Posted by: Fabersham | April 17, 2007 07:22 PM
As far as grounds for impeachment, consider this. Cheney caused information relating to the national defense (the identity of Valerie Plame and her company, Brewster Jennings, as an asset of the CIA) to be transmitted to a foreign power (published in the NY Times) to the advantage of the foreign power or the disadvantage of the United States (blowing our counter-proliferation intelligence gathering apparatus). This is conduct covered under the 1917 Espionage Act.
And Cheney is the one who received the information from the CIA, according to testimony in the Libby trial. It was incumbent on him to safeguard it. Libby and Armitage never had a "Need to Know" and should not have been able to leak it to the press.
Cheney is guilty of Espionage. Why is that so hard to accept?
Posted by: stratocruiser | April 17, 2007 07:29 PM
Cleveland was bankrupted during Kucinich's term as mayor because the banks and Cleveland City Council refused to act in the interests of the people of Cleveland. Kucinich was later vindicated for his tough, principled stance, which is why he's been Cleveland's Rep to the US House for the last dozen years. Read up on how Kucinich saved Cleveland MUNY from the corporations 30 years ago, and in the process saved Cleveland residents tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars on there electricity bills.
Kucinich may not be as smooth as The Fonz, but he is a true hero and deserves our support.
Posted by: Heath | April 17, 2007 07:37 PM
Well, it's obvious that the vast majority of washington post readers and not big Bush fan's. Before I get attacked for that comment let me assure you that there are still some out there. Anyway, everyone is pretending like it's a good idea, and that it even has a chance. Fortunately for Cheney it is neither.
It isn't a good idea because he isn't a mass murderer. Whether or not you like the war, a president has a constitutional ability to deploy troops, regardless of whether or not the opposing party believes the war is justified. He also can't be held responsible for said lives. It's absolutely ridiculous. Impeachment as stated in the article has to do with breaking the law, not how power hungry the opposing party is. Since the laws have not been broken, it won't get very far. The reason Clinton was impeached was not because he turned the republicans didn't like him, but because he lied under oath.
Second, because he has never committed a crime, it won't succeed even if they did decide to impeach him. By the way, it sounds like noone whose posted knows anything about impeachment. If you are impeached you are put on trial. So even if he was impeached he would walk away guiltless and it wouldn't affect him. Remember Clinton was impeached, but not kicked out of office.
I'm a little surprised at the ignorance of people who apparently read the politics section of the paper.
Posted by: doesntmatter | April 17, 2007 07:38 PM
Cheney is just plain evil.
Can him!
Posted by: John | April 17, 2007 07:41 PM
American realists know following legal procedures and impeaching criminals is a waste of time. Patriotic realists wage war and kill their opponents. Most Americans are too ignorant, inarticulate and brutal to employ subtlety or diplomacy. Violence and brutality is part of the American psyche, the American way of dealing with conflict. Don't bother feeble resort to law and democratic principles. Be real Americans. Give the world the dictatorship or civil war that is in your nature.
Posted by: Fabian Xenofontous | April 17, 2007 07:43 PM
Reading the bile-filled tripe that passes for intellectual liberalism on this page has been the highlight of my day. Kucinich's effort to impeach Cheney has a snow-ball's chance in hell of seeing any action, he is merely grandstanding to keep some money coming in for hisw floundering campaign. I do have to admire him for calling out the other candidates who refused to debate on FOX though.
Posted by: Burt | April 17, 2007 07:47 PM
If Clinton did 1/100th of what Cheney has done, he not only would have been impeached many times over but possibly have met the same fate as JFK.
Posted by: fossilhippie | April 17, 2007 07:51 PM
The gross majority of these comments indicate that there is more lunacy here on earth than on the Lunar surface. The calls for impeachment and the great repository of provable evidence for a guilty verdict in an empeachment have been the hew and cry of the losers since December 2000. Six years od idle threats. Six years of nothing. Six years of the epitomy of the Colonel Bogey March, except now it is the Democrats not the Germans.
Posted by: | April 17, 2007 07:54 PM
Clinton got impeached for a lie in a deposition for a civil case. gee i wonder if cheney and bush telling lies to congress is as bad an offence. And as far as saying kacenich is the most lieral,,,,lol ,,,you gotta be kiddin me, i can name at least twenty that are way more liberal...funny how the tite of "most liberal" keeps changing
Posted by: demonslayar | April 17, 2007 08:05 PM
An explanation of Mr. Cheney's mysterious reaction to the 'young man': Per Norman Mineta's testimony to Lee Hamilton. Vice Chairman of the "National Commission on 911 Attacks", should be sought.
See the excerpt on U Tube; http://www.com/watch?V=bDfdOwty3y.
where Mr Mineta (Transportation Secretary) refers to overhearing the 'young man' coming into the meeting and reporting on several occasions to Mr. Cheney; incoming, at various distances from the Pentagon and Mr. Cheney's reaction thereto. Then something hit the Pentagon.
Best of luck Mr. Kucinich!.
MA.
Posted by: MA | April 17, 2007 08:07 PM
impeach the both of 'em.
cheney first.
that's right people, itmfa.
bring our kids home.
(yes, the mercenaries too)
leading through peace takes practice
but
is very worth it
Posted by: ericamary | April 17, 2007 08:08 PM
Doesn't there come a time when, regardless of the chance for success, that one must do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do?
Posted by: angryspittle | April 17, 2007 08:09 PM
These corrupt people are never going to be removed from the executive, senate, house, judicial, cia, nsa, dhs, and all the other crony positions nor is the war in Iraq going to be stopped until the corporate mainstream media starts to publicize the FACTS about how electronic voting machine failures, and hacking and cracking, have essentially removed legal US Citizens Constitutional right to vote. If you can not count the vote, you can not validate the vote, and if you can not validate the vote then you have lost your right to vote.
Only then can the Constitution be restored?
But, instead, we shall be bombarded by the forth estate's noise garbage propaganda on Shawn Bonea Ramesy, Paris Hilton, Brittney Spears, Anna Nicole Smith.. the baby..the lawsuit..the money, and about a zillion other worthless stories that have nothing to do with national security.
Look people, this administration don't take security seriously, or they'd have the ports guarded, the shipping containers checked, The EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM should be used for things like the Virginia Tech emergency!!! Was it?!
It's time to take the airwaves back from the Bush Crony FCC appointee, put technicians in charge of choices about power and frequency. These people don't care about American's safety.
But no, instead, what you'll hear is more gun control again. It's already started again.
This war in Iraq ain't gonna stop. The American people can not stop it.
It's like Democrats and Republicans are both the same.
Our CIA and NSA and DOD need a security clearance overhaul. Background check all the people working for these agencies, enforced removal by our military (Who swore an oath to protect the constitution), somebody screwed the pooch on that one too eh?
It's time for the SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM to be turned within, and oust the corruption before this whole planet is unlivable!
But no, well just listen to the same old noise from the fourth estate, American Idol, 24, Bob Barker, Jeopardy, Wheel Of Fortune.
We should be working on TECHNOLOGY, SCIENCE, ART. A cure for West Nile Virus in humans, could resonant frequency work?
Instead we are making microwave pain inflict-ors for protesters. Not throwing corrupt Secretary Of States and EVM manufacturers in jail for life for all the felonies they committed against the USA!
Let's not forget the Military and the Veterans. It's high time for a DRAFT if we really want to have global security.
Na, well just have a photo op for the (unelected by the people) elected by the Judicial president of the United States OATH OF OFFICE BREAKER!
I hope some really nasty stuff happens to these people.
I hope they find theirselves in so much legal trouble like they never could imagine. I want BAD (tm) things to happen to them. They've made bad things happen to us.
And all you gun control people, go climb back under a rock. gun control ain't going to make the US any safer, putting more red tape on legal gun owners isn't going to stop sick individuals from obtaining weapons and doing bad stuff, but what it will do is help to further destroy the constitution, and make it so that the government can do anything it wants to us.
Oh wait. They're already doing that pretty much now.
It's the last hope.
You have a JURY BOX, a BALLOT BOX, and an AMMO BOX. The ballot box is rigged, the jury box is rigged. WHAT IS LEFT?
Posted by: sick.of.it.all | April 17, 2007 08:11 PM
"We will see a Kunicich Administration before we see an impeachment" that shows you what the rest of the Democrats are worth.
Cant we impeach Cheyney for lying to the public and congress? Or have we grown so blasse that we expect lying to part of our government? Cant we impeach him for starting a war under false pretenses? Outing a covert CIA agent and busting a cover company that cost the taxpayers plenty to set up?
Do we have to wait to catch him doing something really bad?
Posted by: Libertarian | April 17, 2007 08:13 PM
I think that Bush and Cheney should be impeached for many reasons but lying us into war and killing probably a million people before thaey leave office is reason enough. We wouldn't get the senate votes to remove them from office but the impeachment stain would live on in history as a stain on the Bush administration. I don't think that these criminals should get away scott free and the history just be rewritten to make them seem like good guys.
Posted by: John | April 17, 2007 08:19 PM
SLKirish,
it isn't VOTER FRAUD.
it's ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE FRAUD!
please make a note of it.
Posted by: sick.of.it.all | April 17, 2007 08:24 PM
Cheney sweeps all the elegibilty qualifiers:
"treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
Indictment and Incarceration should be the next steps.
Posted by: Joedawg | April 17, 2007 08:29 PM
Ok...that's it...all those who wrote about impeachment report to you local city square with a sign around your neck stating " I am an IGNORANT TWIT!)
Posted by: SFSGM | April 17, 2007 08:32 PM
It's heartning to realize just how many nut jobs there are out there. After reading these comments, I'm not sure there's any hope for this country at all. Most of you guys are in another orbit.
Posted by: Crazy | April 17, 2007 08:33 PM
As much as he deserves it, Cheney should not be impeached. It won't achieve any useful purpose, and will only solidify Republican support for the Bush administration
Posted by: pillowpants | April 17, 2007 08:34 PM
Why impeach? Because we owe it to history.
There hasn't been a MORE corrupt administration in our nation's history, and that's saying something. Nixon, feh, he was a PIKER compared to this crowd. As another poster said, criminals shouldn't be allowed to run our country.
Posted by: Citizen J | April 17, 2007 08:37 PM
You can impeach them but they don't have to resign.
Posted by: RAP | April 17, 2007 08:39 PM
Impeach - prosecute - incarcerate
What is so funny are all the apologists for Dumbya and Cheney. These most likely are the same people that drooled with their retarded enjoyment over the impeachment of Clinton for lying about blow jobs. What this administration has done is beyond anything Clinton did, that was all fantasies about some 20 year old real estate deal and lying about sex. The sophomoric investigations of Clinton in the nineties are still used to slander him by the same drooling wingnuts posting here but truly criminal actions by our President are just overlooked because the Dems are just chapped about elections being stolen in 2000 and 2004. I say only one thing to those that defend these criminals, GO CHENEY YOURSELVES!!
Posted by: Dmitri | April 17, 2007 08:39 PM
I would think mass murder to be reason for much more than impeachment.
Posted by: kurt mcnally | April 17, 2007 08:39 PM
'Political smarts' gets us crap -- 'political smarts' is far overrated.
Look around you: Is there any other reason than 'Politi











It may never happen, but Kucinich is right to propose it. The lies, deception, and seemingly endless corruption require more than a Congressional scolding. Bush too must be held accountable, yet the great irony is Bush can't be impeached because if it were successful, then Cheney would become president.