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How David Vitter Got Nabbed in Madam Scandal

In a Wednesday afternoon news conference, Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt gloated over taking credit for catching socially conservative Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) on the phone list of the D.C. Madam. But while he hinted that he has the goods on other members of Congress, he doesn't - at least not yet.

As for Vitter, Dan Moldea, the gumshoe Washington-based reporter who moonlights as an investigator for Flynt, says his birthday was the magic date that led him to ensnare the Louisiana senator in the D.C. Madam scandal.

Moldea also had a different set of phone records than Brian Ross of ABC News, the reporter who had the exclusive market on the client list of Deborah Jeane Palfrey but who turned up very little in the way of scoop, in fact - a real dud as sex scandals go.

Moldea is working for Flynt -- as he did in 1998 when Flynt successfully nailed Republicans leading the impeachment brigade against President Bill Clinton -- to expose "hypocrites" on Palfrey's client list. The gumshoe decided to take the phone records from Nov. 2000 to Jan. 2001 - records Ross did not have - because Moldea thought he'd try to snag some giddy new Bush administration officials fresh in town and ready to celebrate their newfound power.

When he got home with a CD rom of the phone records given to him by Palfrey's attorney and started reverse checking all the thousands of numbers, he quickly grew weary and cross-eyed. It was a daunting task and it was getting late and still, no big names had surfaced.

"I said to myself, 'When am I going to stop?' I said, 'OK, I'll stop on my birthday.'"

His birthday, February 27, happens to be the fateful date on which Vitter was shown to have made a call from his home number in Washington to Palfrey's escort service, Pamela Martin and Associates.

Moldea tells us that he put the number he found on the Feb. 27 record through a reverse-search engine he was using, and the name popped up as "David Vitter." He ran the name twice more through two other search engines and got the same result.

He sent an email to Flynt and telephoned him to say "I got one." Flynt's first question was, "Is he a hypocrite?" Moldea says he replied, "Just wait 'til you see this guy."

Flynt, in a news conference from his office in Beverly Hills, said Vitter rose to his threshold of hypocrisy because he had campaigned on the sanctity of marriage and co-sponsored the federal marriage amendment to keep same-sex marriage illegal.

"He was to the right of Attila the Hun, every step of the way," Flynt said, adding, "I don't want a man like that legislating for me, especially in the areas of morality."

Flynt, the king of smut, also audaciously claimed, "You have people that don't have an ounce of the character that I have who are running our government."

And while he referenced a $106,000 ad he took out in the Washington Post last month and repeated the ad's claim that "we have high-ranking Republican and Democratic members of the Senate and the House" - he really doesn't "have" them, at least not yet, according to Moldea, who's doing all the investigative leg work for Flynt.

"Do I have them, do I have evidence against them? No," Moldea told the Sleuth. "Do I have leads that I'm pursuing? Yes."

By Mary Ann Akers  |  July 11, 2007; 6:24 PM ET
 
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When will these smear campaigns by the atheist liberals stop? Senator Vitter has already been forgiven by God and his wife. Even then, it was the prostitute who is guilty in the eyes of the Lord, not this infallible man.

They insist on attacking our president (a Christian), our democracy (founded by Christians) and our way of life (work hard for six days and go to church on Sunday).

True, it's sometimes difficult for true Christians to understand why we're persecuted by the immoral press and liberal Democrats in this country. Especially attacks against our elected leaders like President Bush and Senator Vitter (and even the voices of reason in the press like Sean Hannity). But there comes a time when we should fight back against the likes of pornographers like Larry Flynt.

Make no mistake, the Lord is on our side and events like the tar and feathering of Senator Vitter should not be tolerated.

Posted by: Rajamahari Subarian | July 11, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Rajamahari,

It was the prostitute who is guilty in the eyes of the Lord and not this "infallible" man? First, did you honestly mean to say "infallible"? Because infallible means incapable of committing an error. I assume you are not calling Vitter someone incapable of making an error. And how exactly does "our Lord" only find
fault with the prostitute? From what I remember of my Bible, Jesus was more sympathetic to prostitutes than to hypocrites like Vitter.
Perhaps your post was just a satire.

Posted by: Leila | July 11, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Is it old news when another Republican "family values" hypocrite is nailed in a sex scandal?

Of course not!

You can't top the GOP when it comes to saying one thing about morality then sneaking around. Look at Henry Hyde, Bob Livingston, Ted Haggard, et. al.

God may forgive them but the voters will remember it all at the ballot box.

Posted by: reporter1 | July 11, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Vitter needs to switch parties without delay. Perhaps he can run for Mayor of L.A. or San Francisco.

Posted by: Tupac Goldstein | July 11, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

What better source can a grateful public hope to find for advice and council against the wages of sin than from those who have a first-hand knowledge of it.

Posted by: cody mccall | July 11, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

With all due respect, I'm pretty sure it's against the law in most states to pay for sex. Unless Mr. Vitter was in Las Vegas he broke the law.

Therefore he should resign his office.

By the way why hasn't any Media coverage mentioned this fact?

Posted by: Willy | July 11, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

What better source can a grateful public hope to find for advice and council against the wages of sin than from someone who has 'intimate' knowledge of it.

Posted by: cody mccall | July 11, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I am a Christian and against pornography, but I am more strongly against hypocrisy. Any public figure holding themselves out as Christian, leftist, rightist, activist, or atheist deserves to be held true to their representations. This is not something that Senator Vitter before he became a Christian, or before he became a Senator.

The Christian-hating immoral press did not cause this; Senator Vitter did.

Posted by: Living in Paradise | July 11, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

OOPS, another GOP member, no pun intended,found out.Its a long sorry list of hypocrisy for votes. Whats wrong with those red stater's.Can't they keep their people in line with all their rules about sex?
FOX 35 ORLANDO


State House Rep. Arrested
Last Edited: Wednesday, 11 Jul 2007, 5:38 PM EDT

Bob Allen, a Republican, represents District 32 of the State House of Representatives. The district spans parts of Brevard and Orange counties. Allen was first elected to the office in 2000.
Titusville police say they have arrested Florida State Rep. Robert "Bob" Allen, of Merritt Island, on second degree misdemeanor charges for solicitation for prostitution.

Allen, 48, was arrested Wednesday afternoon at Veteran's Memorial Park on East Broad St. in Titutsville. The park was under surveillance by a detail of undercover police officers.

Officers say they noticed Allen acting suspicious as he went in and out of the men's restroom 3 times. Minutes later, he solicited an undercover male officer inside the restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20. Officers realized he was a public figure after the arrest.

Posted by: Siren | July 11, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

David Vitter's New Bio:

David Vitter is dedicated to making life better for his young family and all Louisiana families. He's focused on putting Louisiana first as an independent and outspoken reformer, and on advancing mainstream conservative principles like fornicating with call girls.

In the Senate, David serves on the Committees on Commerce, Science and Transportation; Environment and Public Works; and Small Business and Entrepreneurship.

Working on these committees allows David to fornicate with call girls, focus on jobs, infrastructure, and economic development for every region of the state.

He's been particularly focused on lowering prescription drug prices, fornicating with call girls, saving our coast, and preserving and improving Social Security for future generations.

Prior to his service in the U.S. Senate, David represented the First Congressional District of Louisiana from 1999 - 2004. During that tenure he fornicated with call girls.

For his work in Congress and fornicating with call girls, David has received numerous awards from leading organizations such as Americans for Tax Reform, the 60 + Association, and the Family Research Council.

David and his wife Wendy live in Metairie with their four children, ages 13 and under, and are lectors at St. Francis Xavier Church. The call girls that he fornicates with live in Washington D.C., away from his wife and four children.

His wife and poor children!

Posted by: Toe Moss | July 11, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

This is either a joke or one ignorant human being.

Did this person say Vitter was infallible? That only the woman "sinned"?

Did this person say our democracy was founded by Christians?

Where can I view one of these "Christians" that work hard six days a week and have seen the inside of a church?

Give us a break.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what your political or religious affiliations are; when you've done wrong, you've done wrong. Point the finger all you want at Flynt, Democrats, Atheists, Lobbyists or Purple-toed martians, but the irrefutable truth is that Vitter and Vitter alone is responsible for his actions.

Posted by: Bill Richman | July 11, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

actually vitter's actions would be as illegal in las vegas as they were in washington. prostitution is illegal although it does thrive there, as it does in washinton d.c.

Posted by: den_quixote | July 11, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic. Morally how does the Christan right justify W as a Christan. Didn't Christ say something about acts. I'm so sick of people dragging Christ out for politics. If you believe you're supposed to live like a Christan not talk like one.

Posted by: elgunjduts | July 11, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I want to thank David Vitter for teaching me the way of the Lord. I also want to thank Ted Haggerd. Jimmy Swaggert, Mark Foley, Duke Cunningham, Tom Delay, Rush Limbaugh, Scooter Libby, Monica Goodling, and of course our pResident.

jack jett
www.jackejett.com

Posted by: Jack Jett | July 11, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

OOPS! Theiur falling out of the clouds today! add one more here to the hypocrite for votes, poor people. when will people understand the bait and switch the GOP played on them for their votes. Nearly 3600 dead troops and a crippled military.


Breaking: The phone number for GOP political operative/conservative pundit, John (Jack) M. Burkman Jr. - Principal J.M. Burkman & Associates, Arlington, VA - appears in the database of phone records of the 'DC Madam.'
From the phone logs: 2006-01-15 18:44 1.00

http://www.legitgov.org /

And he isn't new to this sort of stuff, it gets worse:
http://wonkette.com/politics/jack-burkman/republican-strategists-sex-myspace-and-pride-a-heartwarming-dc-tale-181266.php

"It's getting so that a couple nice young girls can't drive up to DC for the Pride parade without getting openly propositioned by Republican Strategists who give them their real names and business cards these days. Take, for example, the MySpace blog of one such lady, whose sordid tale is reprinted (as a warning to the well-endowed) below:"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I recently heard a pastor remark that one reason so many people aren't Christians is because they've met one. He nailed it.

Posted by: FreeMan | July 11, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

You liberals should be ashmed of going after God fearing Mr. Vitter and our good President. Did you not know that only conservatives and God fearing Republicans have a right to commit adultry.If after commiting such an act, they have asked for God's forgiveness, all is forgiven. Hey you morons(conservative Republicans only), what do you think, life is nothing but a confessional. If Bill Clinton does it, then you say.... OOOOH MY GOD!! how can he do it. Bush comes into power by claiming that he will restore the morality of the WHITE HOUSE. Remember those words. Well now almost 6 years later with the whole world is feeling screwed by Republicns, and Mr Vitter and his ilk still have the audacity to tell us how to live our lives. I am sorry to say but most Americans not only have lost respect for this administration but also feel ashamed to be known as Americans, because of the way the world judges us.

Posted by: sanjay | July 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You liberals should be ashmed of going after God fearing Mr. Vitter and our good President. Did you not know that only conservatives and God fearing Republicans have a right to commit adultry.If after commiting such an act, they have asked for God's forgiveness, all is forgiven. Hey you morons(conservative Republicans only), what do you think, life is nothing but a confessional. If Bill Clinton does it, then you say.... OOOOH MY GOD!! how can he do it. Bush comes into power by claiming that he will restore the morality of the WHITE HOUSE. Remember those words. Well now almost 6 years later with the whole world is feeling screwed by Republicns, and Mr Vitter and his ilk still have the audacity to tell us how to live our lives. I am sorry to say but most Americans not only have lost respect for this administration but also feel ashamed to be known as Americans, because of the way the world judges us.

Posted by: sanjay | July 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You liberals should be ashmed of going after God fearing Mr. Vitter and our good President. Did you not know that only conservatives and God fearing Republicans have a right to commit adultry.If after commiting such an act, they have asked for God's forgiveness, all is forgiven. Hey you morons(conservative Republicans only), what do you think, life is nothing but a confessional. If Bill Clinton does it, then you say.... OOOOH MY GOD!! how can he do it. Bush comes into power by claiming that he will restore the morality of the WHITE HOUSE. Remember those words. Well now almost 6 years later with the whole world is feeling screwed by Republicns, and Mr Vitter and his ilk still have the audacity to tell us how to live our lives. I am sorry to say but most Americans not only have lost respect for this administration but also feel ashamed to be known as Americans, because of the way the world judges us.

Posted by: sanjay | July 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You liberals should be ashmed of going after God fearing Mr. Vitter and our good President. Did you not know that only conservatives and God fearing Republicans have a right to commit adultry.If after commiting such an act, they have asked for God's forgiveness, all is forgiven. Hey you morons(conservative Republicans only), what do you think, life is nothing but a confessional. If Bill Clinton does it, then you say.... OOOOH MY GOD!! how can he do it. Bush comes into power by claiming that he will restore the morality of the WHITE HOUSE. Remember those words. Well now almost 6 years later with the whole world is feeling screwed by Republicns, and Mr Vitter and his ilk still have the audacity to tell us how to live our lives. I am sorry to say but most Americans not only have lost respect for this administration but also feel ashamed to be known as Americans, because of the way the world judges us.

Posted by: sanjay | July 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Look, you can't have it both ways...professing your of moral character, being a Christian, and whoring around on the side. God really see's what's inside this mans heart, just like Bush "claims" to be a moral man. How "moral" and ethical is a very gray area.

With great power comes great responsiblity, and you had better be willing to take the heat when being in the public eye doing very private matters which may and obviously came to light.

Posted by: Dave Plimpton | July 11, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I apologise, I did not mean to post my comments 4 times.

Posted by: sanjay | July 11, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Nevada, outside of Clark County (which includes Las Vegas) does have legal and regulated prostitution. However, it is, as someone noted above, illegal in the City of Las Vegas and Clark County.

That aside, what country was founded by Christians? I remember Jefferson as being suspicious of religion as a rationale on which to base a country.

Posted by: rich | July 11, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

It never fails to amaze me how some people will simply ignore reality to keep from having thier beliefs challenged. On the one hand they support war in spite of Jesus' teachings about peace and forgiveness, then they condem people for lifestyle choices, but when it is someone that they have been duped by they forgive everything.

Bush should be in jail for so many things that I couldn't list them all here, but he is still a hero to many conservative chistians, Haggard is forgiven, excuses are given for all the scandles, but heaven forbid that anyone should reconsider their beliefs.

Posted by: Captbilly | July 11, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

It never fails to amaze me how some people will simply ignore reality to keep from having thier beliefs challenged. On the one hand they support war in spite of Jesus' teachings about peace and forgiveness, then they condem people for lifestyle choices, but when it is someone that they have been duped by they forgive everything.

Bush should be in jail for so many things that I couldn't list them all here, but he is still a hero to many conservative chistians, Haggard is forgiven, excuses are given for all the scandles, but heaven forbid that anyone should reconsider their beliefs.

Posted by: Captbilly | July 11, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

TO Comment No 1
These good heart Christians you talk about invaded and occupy a Muslim country on a pack of lies.
1. No WMD,s
2. No Iraqi on any on the planes(Saudi's and others..NO IRAQI's)
3. No connection to 09/11/01 ETc,....
Don't forget Mark Foley..another hypocrite
4. These are the same Christians that want to start a war with Iran.
5. Homosexuality is no threat to family,INFIDELITY is.
7.Iraq possed no threat to anyone. when invaded
8.Lie if we pull out of Iraq there will be a genocide....Hey all you Christians' there is genocide happening in Darfur right now........

Posted by: Marcel | July 11, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Leave the man alone, he made a huge mistake. the only forgiveness he needs is from his wife and god. you sick people thrive on this type of stuff. dont judge this man as he is a mortal man as we are. thou shall not judge. if you dont like what he has done and cannot forgive him simply do not vote for him, why run this in the ground.get a life!

Posted by: william | July 11, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Rajamahari, huh??

Posted by: dg3 | July 11, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

There are still Christians out there they are just not in the GOP or the moral majority.
Christians are taught to lead by example and be suspicious of those who claim to be so holy.
Remember in the Bible where it says, the rich man is thanking God that he is so good not like the dirty beggar's on the street, that is the GOP that rich man that thinks he is so good and close to God is a hypocrite in the eyes of God.

Posted by: knowhelpnow | July 11, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I may not agree with Senator Vitter's sexual preferences, but I will defend his right to wear diapers while having sex with prostitutes to the death!

Posted by: Patrick Henry | July 11, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Larry Flynt for President!! Hey, at least he's honest. Can you say that about Sen. Vitter? I just love to see these "Christian" republicans telling us to forgive Vitter when they were the same ones out for blood when Clinton got busted with Monica Lewinski. Is shameless hypocrisy a requirement to be a republican?

Posted by: C-dog | July 11, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Approve of Larry Flynt or not who could deny that the hypocrisy he exposes is very healthy for our otherwise beleaguered and endangered Republic, Bill of Rights and Constitution.

History will treat him much more kindly than Bush and Cheney and their minions.

Worst Administration in U.S. History! Makes Nixon and his merry miscreants look like lightweight felons.

Posted by: Newspaperbrat | July 11, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

When I learned the news of Mr. Vitter I knew the Devil had been working overtime. The poor man is innocent until proven guilty. May be the pressure of Whashington caused him to seek comfort in the arms of a stranger...so What ! Prostitutes must make a living and be forgiven. I hope Guliani will keep this great soldier of the Lord in his campain. That way the healing process will begin and a reborn Vitter can lead the brigade for family values in the right directon.

Posted by: fredie | July 11, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Why do Republicans talk about morality? Much much easier to subscribe to the Democrat way of thinking...If it feels good, do it. No baggage to carry around.

Posted by: Tupac Goldstein | July 11, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

fredie,
the man is not "innocent."

he's already admitted the fact that he paid the prostitute.

maybe if you were to pick up a newspaper...?

Posted by: Geno | July 11, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

what is this...the far christian right blog site?

the devil made him do it??

what a hoot.

Posted by: Geno | July 11, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Senator Vitter is a good man. Leave him alone. Coming to Washington was a difficult time for him. He was lonely after leaving behind his LA prostitutes and it was probably getting expensive to fly them to DC. Plus his wife and children were not with him yet so he was lonely and wanted sex. Anyone can understand why he would call a prostitute. And this agency was given to him with many good references from his Republican colleagues in the House and Senate.

Posted by: Jim | July 11, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Since Democrats have no ethics or morals to speak of -- witness William "Dollar Bill" Jefferson with his freezer full of bribe money or Pres. Clinton lying about adulterous sex with an intern-- I guess they don't qualify as "hypocrites".

Posted by: Washington Dame | July 11, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

washington dame doesn't know what hypocrisy means.

Posted by: pity the fools | July 11, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Rajamahari,

Liberal has nothing to do with unfaithfulness or forgiveness. As for God forgiving him, who the hell are you to tell me what God says? You don't have a pipeline even though you probably think you do.

You are a worthless piece of garbage as is Vitter.

Posted by: FAITHFUL31YEARS | July 11, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Since Democrats have no ethics or morals to speak of -- witness William "Dollar Bill" Jefferson with his freezer full of bribe money or Pres. Clinton lying about adulterous sex with an intern-- I guess they don't qualify as "hypocrites".

Posted by: Washington Dame | July 11, 2007 10:54 PM

WD you should become a comedy writer. Two whole Dem hypocrits. WOW!
That counterbalances the thousand or so in the administration starting with the Court selected president and reachs all the way down into the womb where anyone born of a neocon female will by genetics become just another Rethuglican.

Posted by: Jay East | July 11, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Larry Flint. Your magazine is more credible than CNN or the networks.

Posted by: Roy | July 11, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I've long since concluded that any self-described religious "true believers" who would wear their publicly-avowed faith so prominently on their sleeves, more often than not do so because there is so little room in their hearts.

And while I hold one's freedom to worship as especially sacrosanct, I also believe that those who would dare to speak for God, or would otherwise lay claim to a divine right to exclusively interpret His infinite Will, blaspheme in the absolute worst sense of the term.

Those of us whom "true Christians" would so blithely deride as unbelievers, heathens, pagans, heretics, etc., have not heretofore assailed persons of faith, nor have we impugned anyone's inherent worth as fellow human beings.

We have never sought to prevent "true Christians" from worshiping their God, living their own lives and raising their children however they might see fit.

All we've ever asked in return is that such "true Christians" would afford others the same courtesy and respect that they so vehemently demand for themselves, and to do so freely without simultaneously imposing upon us their unsolicited opinions and value judgments.

We implore "true Christians" to recognize that we also enjoy the same constitutionally-protected right as they do to live our own lives in peace, and to worship in whatever manner we might choose -- or to not worship any diety whatsoever, as the case may be -- without being subjected to their unwelcomed and condescending personal aspersions.

Further, we wish only to be left alone by these "true Christians", and to be allowed to make our own way peaceably in this world, without having to live with threats of not-so-divine earthly retribution for any failure on our part to subscribe to their orthodoxy.

To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, such "true Christians" can have no fight with us, without themselves being the aggressors. And while we do not seek conflict with them, I would daresay that we are quite capable of initially defending ourselves and subsequently finishing whatever they might choose to start.

And finally, I would note that Larry Flynt was shot and crippled outside a Georgia courthouse during one of his trials for obscenity in the 1970s, a cowardly and sinful act by a self-righteous but conveniently anonymous "true Christian" who also claimed that God was on his side.

Therefore, if I may be so bold as to mix religious metaphors, Mr. Flynt's recent revelation of the self-righteous Sen. Vitter's moral equivocacy is truly a right-wing hypocrite's well-deserved karma.

Aloha.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii | July 11, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

2008 Voters: Remember the GOP is the Party that preach Christianity by Day, and breaks the 10 Commandments and teaching of Jesus in the dark of night!!

The core of the GOP is hypocrisy, lying, corruption and support of prisoner torture!!!

Posted by: Texas Karate | July 11, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

2008 Voters: Remember the GOP is the Party that preach Christianity by Day, and breaks the 10 Commandments and teaching of Jesus in the dark of night!!

The core of the GOP is hypocrisy, lying, corruption and support of prisoner torture!!!

Posted by: Texas Karate | July 11, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

You gotta admit, the right wingers are sure quite adept at playing the god card when they get caught with their pants down! I don't buy it one bit. People who talk about god are on the same level as people who claim to see fairies - delusional.

Posted by: Pops | July 11, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

So Vitter builds his political career criticizing the moral failings of others while living a secret life of sin? Then he confesses only when the truth is about to come out anyway, calling it a private matter between him, his wife and God? And we're expected to sympathize with him and "leave the poor man alone," because he just "made a mistake?" Sorry, this was no mistake - this was a flawed man who hid his own vices while profiting from the vices of others. God and his wife may forgive him, but the people of Louisiana should not.

Posted by: LAMan | July 12, 2007 12:01 AM | Report abuse

God forgave him? Was Tinkerbell in on this 2? Exactly how are you verifying this God claim? We are adults here, and for him to invoke God and his wife is an example of his lack of courage, to say the least. He is a man who likes to dress up in diapers and has sex with prostitues. Leave you're god crap in your fantasy world and take a good look at his.

Posted by: Lee Gordon | July 12, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Vitter is the only voice of reason representing the people of Louisiana in our Senate. Look, he's not a priest, and he's not a spiritual advisor; he a SENATOR. I really don't care what he does, as long as he perseveres for the people of Louisiana. If his wife forgives him, that's enough for me. It's really none of our business. At least he didn't LIE about it like Clinton did.

Posted by: NOLA mom | July 12, 2007 1:00 AM | Report abuse

The way things are going, right wingers will have no place to hide. Why not stab the man in the heart, better yet, stone the wounded messenger as he tries to crawl back the steps of the Capitol to serve his constituants. He has never said "do as I do". In church, where he spends much of his time, his speeches are full of motivating grace. Saddly, his poor wife and children will bear the burden. That should be enough to satisfy the liberals. I hope he runs again after he comes out of rehabilitation he will have my vote.

Posted by: fredie | July 12, 2007 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Has this hypocrite resigned yet??
Oh wait - he claims to be a moral and fine upstanding Republican!
Move along....

Posted by: annefrank | July 12, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Let's see. A reporter moonlights as an investigator doing oppo research for the Democrats. And they want us to believe that journalists have ethics.

Posted by: Corlyss | July 12, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Palfrey should publish the shorter list of the senators and congressmen who weren't on her phone list, so these lawmakers could use the credits when they seek reelection. The rest of us-- especially those slow readers like me-- could save a lot of time. We would also avoid offending those church-going people who argued that "he is already forgiven by God and his wife" and that "the prostitute who is the culprit." Palfrey would also fulfill her wish while obeying the judge, who ordered her not to publish the names of the persons on her phone list.

Posted by: IMSOTI | July 12, 2007 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow, what an old-fashioned traditional liberal I am, faithfully and happily married, so I got to be grateful to conservatives for revealing to me how life really works, and what a long list of sin-loving folks I've learned from! List way too long to post here, but top of my list has got to be two published pornographers, the VP's wife, Lynn Cheney, who writes lovingly of sex between underage girls, and Scooter Libby, who got commuted just so he wouldn't talk, I mean cuz he's such a great guy working for the public good, he REALLY loves little girls being raped by bears. Now I haven't had the stomache to read their writings (I'm guessing sin-lovers have stronger constitutions), or any of the other conservative pornographers, but how interesting to learn about favorite hobbies of conservatives.

Posted by: Christine in Atlanta | July 12, 2007 2:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm torn on this one...
I thought that Clinton should be impeached because he lied under oath not because he had "sexual relations" with Monica.

I mean how bass-ackwards is it that A woman can have an abortion because it's her right to do what she wants with her body, but when it comes to a woman wanting to sell her body she has no rights?

You can't have it both ways!

He did this in 2001 when he was in the House of reps., not the Senate... not that it matters that much, just correcting some peoples mis-info.

Everyone here is or has been hypocritical at least once, you know the "do as a say, not as I do" philosophy. Like when your 2yo sees you climbing a latter then they start to climb the latter you tell them no and take them off of the latter because you know they'll probably get hurt... or like a parent who is addicted to smoking andjust can't seem to quit, they know it's bad and that they should quit but they just can't seem to quit. They don't want thier children do it because they know how harmful it is so they tell the children not to do it... it's the same thing on a smaller scale.

However I also believe that if you're going to give up a majority of your personal life and represent a group of people, put yourself in the spotlight, you should do everything you can to "keep your nose clean" and maintain integrity and honesty. I just wonder if it really stopped there.

Most "Christians" of today don't even fully understand what it means to "follow Christ" and should really study their bibles for themselves instead of relying on the corrupt clergy of today, they need to look through concordances and find out what some of those words REALLY mean in the Original language (Hebrew). And something else that people in general need to learn is that all religions have something to offer also science and religion do not oppose each other. I could elaborate but you can search it for yourself. ;)

BTW the Constitution says freedom OF religion NOT freedom FROM religion... think on it... kind of like saying "we don't care what you believe in but believe in something" :)

I use to think most of the GOP was "evil" and that they were all liars but then I heard Ron Paul and Dennis Kunnich... I like them very much. :D

I just keep wondering why Bushco is still in offices and not prison cells? They have pissed in the faces of Congress, on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not to mention us citizens and they're still there, STILL COMMITTING CRIMES!

Posted by: LAnative | July 12, 2007 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Posted by Nzuixx on 07/11/07 at 10:47PM


In the fall of 1998, David Vitter felt compelled to weigh in on the national debate over the possible impeachment of President Bill Clinton for lying about sex. Vitter was not yet a member of Congress; he was a Republican state representative. And in an October 29, 1998, opinion piece for the New Orleans Times-Picayune, Vitter took issue with a previous article, written by two law professors who had argued that impeachment "is a process of removing a president from office who can no longer effectively govern; it is not about punishment." Given that Clinton was still a capable chief executive, they had maintained, impeachment was not in order.

Vitter, a graduate of Harvard University and Tulane law school and a Rhodes scholar, was aghast at this amoral position. He blasted the law professors for criticizing those congressional Republicans pushing for Clinton's impeachment. Their argument that impeachment is "not primarily about right and wrong or moral fitness to govern," he wrote, was utterly wrongheaded. He continued:

Some current polls may suggest that people are turned off by the whole Clinton mess and don't care -- because the stock market is good, the Clinton spin machine is even better or other reasons. But that doesn't answer the question of whether President Clinton should be impeached and removed from office because he is morally unfit to govern.

The writings of the Founding Fathers are very instructive on this issue. They are not cast in terms of political effectiveness at all but in terms of right and wrong -- moral fitness. Hamilton writes in the Federalists Papers (No. 65) that impeachable offenses are those that "proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust."

In considering impeachment, Vitter asserted, Congress had to judge Clinton on moral terms. Decrying the law professors' failure to see this, Vitter observed, "Is that the level of moral relatively [sic] and vacuousness we have come to?" If no "meaningful action" were to be taken against Clinton, Vitter wrote, "his leadership will only further drain any sense of values left to our political culture."

Strong words. Now that Vitter, who entered the House of Representatives in 1999 after winning a special election to fill the seat of Representative Bob Livingston (who resigned after being caught in an adultery scandal) and who was elected senator in 2004, has admitted he placed a phone call to the so-called DC Madam, his constituents can only wonder if he will hold himself to the same standards he sought to apply to Bill Clinton.

Vitter, who is married with four children, has been a vigorous advocate of family values, championing abstinence-only programs and calling for a ban on gay marriage. In a statement his office rushed out on Monday night--before he could be outed by Hustler magazine--Vitter said he had committed a "serious sin" and claimed that "several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling." I seem to recall that Bill Clinton took a similar stance after he acknowledged his affair with Monica Lewinsky. That, though, did not prevent Vitter from calling for Clinton's forcible removal from office.

Perhaps Vitter ought to revisit the issue of whether the absence of moral fitness is a firing offense for a public official

Let him Resign and I will see it the Louisiana Fire this Guy, sure he should do his Family Justice and resign.

Peace.

Posted by: Nzuixx | July 12, 2007 3:04 AM | Report abuse

Here's the thing - I'm fine with people making mistakes. But when they try to force their rigid, religious-based world view on us, and present themselves as arbiters of right and wrong, I can't help myself but point out that they are hypocrites and no better than you and I. So stop telling me to lay off the guy - I wouldn't care unless he was one of those holier-than-thou fraud right-wing christians. Why can't they just leave all of us alone?

Posted by: Tom | July 12, 2007 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Does God actually speak and say you are forgiven or do you just hope he does? Not being a true red state Christian I'm not up on how this works.

Posted by: JFM | July 12, 2007 5:00 AM | Report abuse

"You have people that don't have an ounce of the character that I have who are running our government." And writing our news too.

Posted by: katman | July 12, 2007 5:07 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how Rush Limbaugh and Hanitty are gonna spin this one. They always have a way.

The republican party is shameless. It will reflect in the next elections.

Candidates and politians should not discuss THEIR moral belief's or Religion. As true representatives of ALL people (including those that are not religious) should be their top priority, not pandering to the religious right to get votes. Maybe Vitter wouldnt be in so much trouble if he just was not practicing what he was preaching!

Our founding fathers wanted seperation of church and state.. they fled to this country to get away from places that where run by kings and religion .. so why is it that more and more we allow religion to be used by politicians to get votes. It should be shunned and people should not vote for them just on that principal!

P.S. Vitter should resign. Plain and simple.

P.S.S. Larry Flint is my new hero.

Posted by: Paul | July 12, 2007 5:25 AM | Report abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Vitter


"Several news sources reported that Vitter replaced Bob Livingston after he resigned in 1999 due to an adultery scandal.[1][25][13] Vitter said about Livingston's decision to resign, "It's obviously a tremendous loss for the state.... I think Livingston's stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess", referring to the Monica Lewinsky scandal of President Bill Clinton.[26] In 2000, his wife, Wendy Vitter, commenting on the same scandal, "I'm a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary. If he [Vitter] does something like that, I'm walking away with one thing, and it's not alimony, trust me", referring to the incident of Lorena Bobbitt severing the penis of her husband and to Clinton's wife, Hillary Clinton"

Posted by: Vitter should resign immediately. | July 12, 2007 5:38 AM | Report abuse

Has his wife followed through with her Bobbit promise or is she a full of crap too?

Posted by: Fred-MA | July 12, 2007 5:41 AM | Report abuse

HAHHAHAHHAHHA what an idiot.

Posted by: Steve L. | July 12, 2007 5:43 AM | Report abuse

"The voters don't like hypocrisy. They really don't like hypocrites. People like candidates who tell you the truth."

Posted by: Kelly | July 12, 2007 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Typical christian hypocrite. I grew up with the likes of him. Preaching and legislating morality while breaking every commandment except murder. And now Bush and the GOP is responsible for the murder of thousands in Iraq. All 10 broken. My bleeding heart cries and wails. Goddess help us all.

Posted by: meowomon | July 12, 2007 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Can we stop making this a partisan issue? There's plenty of venality both sides of the trough, ....excuse me, aisle. I'm no supporter of the administration and the rubber stamp party that's propped it up, but other than the schadenfreude of outing a hypocrite there's no news here. Like Clinton, I suspect the real crime is he was stupid enough to get caught.

The republicans have some serious misconduct to account for. But hypocrisy and venality is of truly bipartisan character.

Posted by: blueshift | July 12, 2007 7:35 AM | Report abuse

///Has his wife followed through with her Bobbit promise or is she a full of crap too?///

maybe THATS why he is in hiding----recuperating from a Bobbitectomy???

Posted by: hank the angry drunken dwarf | July 12, 2007 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Both parties are corrupt but the republicans are gonna get us all killed. Why are people voting for people because of "family values." My neighbor had a worker start talking about Christ and the lord and the love and the blessed this and the blessed that and then we caught him stealing our CD player out of our car. He had no pentagram or 666 tatoo. Stop using religion as a sales technique. Stop using church as an excuse to sin; how about STOP SINNING! Or be honest about it like Larry Flynt. At least liberals don't start illegal wars. There will be a special place in Hell for this neo-cabal. Christ would see right through these money-changers. By the way, where does Christ say you need to be a moron, NASCAR dad to get into heaven? I have a feeling I will be seeing more Muslims up there than republicans. Democrats are the true pro-life party.

Posted by: WheelofVoter | July 12, 2007 8:19 AM | Report abuse

To Rajamahari Subarian

Where do people get the silly notion that this is a "Christian Nation"? Here's what Thomas Jefferson and other founders had to say about it!

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." - Thomas Jefferson

"A professorship of theology should have no place in our institution." - Thomas Jefferson

"The Christian God is a being of terrific character -- cruel, vindictive, capricious and unjust." - Thomas Jefferson

"... the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." - Treaty with Tripoli, drafted under George Washington, 1796, signed by John Adams, 1797

"To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, god, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no god, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise . . . without plunging into the fathomless abyss of dreams and phantasms. I am satisfied, and sufficiently occupied with the things which are, without tormenting or troubling myself about those which may indeed be, but of which I have no evidence." - Thomas Jefferson

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." - Thomas Jefferson

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? Mor less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." -Benjamin Franklin

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." - John Adams


Posted by: Wordster | July 12, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

"The way things are going, right wingers will have no place to hide. Why not stab the man in the heart, better yet, stone the wounded messenger as he tries to crawl back the steps of the Capitol to serve his constituants. He has never said "do as I do". In church, where he spends much of his time, his speeches are full of motivating grace. Saddly, his poor wife and children will bear the burden. That should be enough to satisfy the liberals. I hope he runs again after he comes out of rehabilitation he will have my vote."

If is "poor wife and children" will bear the burden, did he happen to think of that BEFORE doing the dirty? Obviously not. He certainly didn't go public until he got caught. Look for a few more confessions in the next few weeks.


Posted by: Carolyn | July 12, 2007 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I want to know when is Sen. Vitter going to join Mark Foley in rehad. I am sure it was the booze and pills that he will be the true cause of seeing ladies of the night.

Posted by: illiniguy94 | July 12, 2007 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Both the DC Madamn and his New Orleans madamn said he was one of the nices Johns they ever had sex with. That should excuse him NOT

Posted by: Betty | July 12, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

IMMIGRATION FOE, MR. VITTER
THE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN MR. VITTER (A CATHLIC?) who voted against the majority of poor Christians NOT to have a Reform on comprehensive immigration Bill. How the good Lord have compassion and forgiven him for breaking His commandment and has no compassion on humanity suffering in this free country? GOD is watching you all who are anti-immigrant and those Senators (Republican and Democrats) cannot call themselves Christians but they are SCARED of their constituents may be voting out. Lord have mercy!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wordster, Christianity in the day of Jefferson, Franklin & Adams focused more on punishment (hellfire and brimstone) than on love and forgiveness as is seen in most churches today. If the basic tenets of "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Do to others as you would have them do to you" were applied by all without regard to a belief in god we would all be better off. Those tenets beat the hell out of the Islamic tenet that an unbeliever must be enslaved or killed. Mr. Jefferson was rather elitist when he inferred that weak minded people believe in god. People generally believe what they have been taught from childhood. Most don't have the opportunity or the intelligience to fully analyze the evidence available and come to Jefferson's correct conclusion that god does not exist. That does not mean that those of us who have done so should look down on Christians and castigate them for their beliefs. We should however, criticize them strongly when their behaviors contradict those stated beliefs. In the case of Islam, a religion that espouses the death and/or enslavement of any human being should be considered unacceptable by any thinking, caring human being.

Posted by: r man | July 12, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm holier than thou has been the conservative rallying cry for a long time. Their leadership has never been holier than a snake in the grass. The GOP found that it could control the votes of conservatives by masquerading as righteous persons. The conservtaives forgot that politicians are uniformly liars. It is impossible to define the term polician without a discussion of the willingness to prevaricate and distort at an instant's notice.

Posted by: Kal Palnicki | July 12, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Yep, yep, yep. I think we need to just recognize that as soon as somebody goes all out crazy against something, it's because they're doing it. And forgiven by God? Nope, no way, if we're going to play the God card, you have to use him from the Old Testament, and that guy didn't forgive damn near anything.

Posted by: GlossyNews | July 12, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand how a man can have sex with a hooker and then feel that he can tell his children how to behave.

Or any of the rest of us, for that matter.

Posted by: mark | July 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

What is so ironic is that you liberals are the REAL "holier than thous," it's just that what you are arrogant about is ideology, not religion. What a bunch of naive phonies.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

hypocrite = says one thing then does the oppoiste.

You are not a hypocrite if you do not say something then do what you did not say. That is the problem with the neo cons they think that god will forgive them. For there sake I hope but do not beleive they are right.

Posted by: Ant | July 12, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

As a Christian, I do not agree with many other Christians on many issues. I agree with LAnative that all Christians should look to God, the Bible, and guidance from the Holy Spirit entirely for every answer to every issue. Don't just take what you hear someone else say as being Godly (it may or may not be).

As to many of the angry anti-Christian posters, it truly hurts me to see the behavior of some "Christians". It hurts mostly because it feeds your anger and anti-God/anti-Jesus beliefs. I can only speak from my own changed heart. And that is I know that God changes me and makes me fulfilled in every possible way. All good that I have or do comes from Him. All bad comes from sin (and mostly my own sin).

I do not believe that Christianity/God/Jesus... should be or can be forced down anyone. I only wish that everyone could recieve the love, joy, fulfillment, and completeness that God provides.

Have a Great Day everyone.
Adam

Posted by: Adam Riser | July 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I'm shocked, shocked! to find sex and politics in DC! C'mon...what would be all the fun be if these guys took this seriously and did their jobs..I mean look, there's a war on, and THIS is what everyone's talking about? Oh and put this in your pipe and smoke it...Paris Hilton will end up doing more time then Scooter Libby...hmmm sounds about right.

Posted by: I'm shocked! | July 12, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Obviously, few of you know how it works in a Red State. Having grown up in Oklahoma, I have been able to study the phenomenon closely.
The Bible-thumping crowd is a big group of pure, unadaulterated sinners who have two major motivations: One, they are trying to desperately hide their black, sinful souls and the things they do to satisfy them (i.e., hiring call girls to diaper them) because everyone else will tar and feather them (a popular pasttime, as Bill Clinton can tell you) or at least make fun of them. Two, they are trying to shut up everyone who disagrees with their religious beliefs because these are in direct contradiction to most parts of the Bible and they're afraid that if someone points this out to them it will destroy their baseless, foundation-free, fragile faith and, with it, their "get into heaven free card".
The only part I haven't figured out is if they really think their un-Christian intolerance will help them ascend in the end or if it just comes naturally to hypocrites.
No, I have no sympathy at all for the rich, powerful jackass with no real values and no self-control. Why would I?

Posted by: A. Platt | July 12, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

P.S. I am seriously considering moving to a blue state. The "Christians" might even be in a minority there, but they are so much more likely to actually be Christians.

Posted by: A. Platt | July 12, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Some of these comments are hysterical.

Posted by: Jimm | July 12, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

History," Thomas Jefferson wrote, "furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."

Posted by: Carwelc | July 12, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Leave the man alone, he made a huge mistake. the only forgiveness he needs is from his wife and god. . . .

Posted by: william | July 11, 2007 09:48 PM


Sorry, but Vitter actually broke a law that he was vehement about getting all of us to comply with. He REALLY must face a jury of his peers because he is a public servant and, therefore, accountable to that public. Sorry about his family, but he is the ultimate hypocrite if he even thinks we're going to buy the "My poor family" thing.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Leave the man alone, he made a huge mistake. the only forgiveness he needs is from his wife and god. . . .

Posted by: william | July 11, 2007 09:48 PM


Sorry, but Vitter actually broke a law that he was vehement about getting all of us to comply with. He REALLY must face a jury of his peers because he is a public servant and, therefore, accountable to that public. Sorry about his family, but he is the ultimate hypocrite if he even thinks we're going to buy the "My poor family" thing.

Posted by: Carwelc | July 12, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

These politicians who preach "Family Values" must have one heck of a disfunctional family!
This guy needs to go TODAY!

Posted by: Billy Slocumb | July 12, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Guys! Raj's comment was SATIRE. I got it; didn't you?
Anyway, maybe Vitter really is for family values. Don't prostitutes have families, too? Don't those families need paychecks?
(satire, too, by the way.)

Posted by: anon | July 12, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

While I agree with many of you that what David Vitter did was indeed wrong, I believe that the slander and criticism is also wrong. He has asked forgiveness from his wife and God, and was forgiven. As a Catholic, I know that in order to receive absolution, you must truly be sorry, and have made change. Also, there is nothing he can do to change the past, and he has done what is possible to correct his mistakes.

On a side note, while I know that prosecution is also wrong, saying that she was the one with which the sins mostly lie, that is also false. As another person previously mentioned, in the Bible, Jesus was sympathetic and forgiving towards the prostitute. While I am not condoning her actions, I think that everyone commenting on this forum (or commenting with others) should remember that it is not our place to judge another.

While we must keep council and keep laws in place, we must remember not to overstep our place. We must keep an authority in this country to protect the people, but in the end, it will not be us that determines the sinners and the damned, but another higher power, whether you believe it to be God, or any other being. It is our job to help and serve, not to judge and outwardly prosecute others. Remember that when you are promoting slander and gossip, you are also in the wrong.

Try to be a positive force for change.

Posted by: Colette - 17 | July 12, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

One more thing, everyone.

It is not a matter of being Democratic, Republican, or any other party or religion.

Vitter made his mistake, but so did many other people, including politicians from other parties. There is an entire "little black book" full of names.

To try to convince yourself or others that only one type of person makes these mistakes or any other, is simply ridiculous. Not to mention that everyone, including myself, has sinned. Many, if not most Americans, have also broken the law. How many people have been drunk underage, smoked underage, or downloaded music illegally. There are so many other things. Try not to be too judgmental.

Please, future post makers, remember to preview what you wrote, and really think about it before you post. If you don't, you may end up sounding hypocritical (like many post-ees have complained about), judgemental, rude, and pompous. Think about the person that you are, and decide whether you post is truly how you want to come off to the world.

Posted by: Colette - Age 17 | July 12, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Colette, you are wise beyond your years and one of the best Christians around. Really. Please keep in mind, however, that as members of a democracy--and the most powerful nation on Earth, which just happens to be a democracy (coincidence? I think not)--it is our duty to judge these politicians. If we don't look with a critical eye, we will wind up in a tar baby morass like Iraq.
In short, you're right--but if we don't take hypocritical lawmakers to task, we wind up with money calling the shots, hypocracy as the rule of law, and no one respecting the rules we claim to live by.
In other words, we haven't been looking at these guys with a critical eye for a while, and it is about time we started!

Posted by: A. Platt | July 12, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

William: You say we shouldn't judge Vitter.

Really?

He didn't afford us that courtesy. He made a judgment about me and my partner's rights when he fought adamantly to deny us basic marriage rights because he doesn't like homosexuals.

He not only judged. He fought hard to deny others basic rights.

The hypocrite deserves everything he gets from this.

Posted by: Hillman | July 12, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

All who desire good are hypocrites.

Posted by: GKC | July 12, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

So it be. Let the one without sin cast the first stone. There is indeed is " NO ONE WITHOUT SIN." We all have sinned -even while trying to do the right thing.

Whether in private, politics or religion there is always "A CHOICE" to be made. When the wrong choice is made, prepare to face the consequences. They will come. "What a man soweth, so shall he reap." To those in office that are honest, please continue to be honest. Infidelity is wrong and unfortunately, there are many others who do the same and are not caught or made to be public knowledge. Leaders do hold a greater responsibility. Men do have a major weakness. It is SEX. The media sells it everyday. It is retailed in stores, and worn by the young and old. Unfortunately every time a sex scandal is made public knowledge, it destroys the public sense of morality. If leaders (Christian or not) can't control themselves in all types if scandals how can they expect the public to adhere to morals, rules and regulations. They must walk the in the duty they are sworn to. If they get in something too deep, they may need to resign, come clean and free themselves of the miserable lie they have come to believe BEFORE they are exposed.

One day perhaps Mr. Vitter can uphold his "Family Values" and lead other youth, young and old men ways to avoid sexual temptations, loosing control, lying to oneself and others. This is what destroys TRUST in leadership, role models, and relationships. A SAD lesson to learn!

Posted by: K Ziegler, La. | July 12, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

So it be. Let the one without sin cast the first stone. There is indeed is " NO ONE WITHOUT SIN." We all have sinned -even while trying to do the right thing.

Whether in private, politics or religion there is always "A CHOICE" to be made. When the wrong choice is made, prepare to face the consequences. They will come. "What a man soweth, so shall he reap." To those in office that are honest, please continue to be honest. Infidelity is wrong and unfortunately, there are many others who do the same and are not caught or made to be public knowledge. Leaders do hold a greater responsibility. Men do have a major weakness. It is SEX. The media sells it everyday. It is retailed in stores, and worn by the young and old. Unfortunately every time a sex scandal is made public knowledge, it destroys the public sense of morality. If leaders (Christian or not) can't control themselves in all types if scandals how can they expect the public to adhere to morals, rules and regulations. They must walk the in the duty they are sworn to. If they get in something too deep, they may need to resign, come clean and free themselves of the miserable lie they have come to believe BEFORE they are exposed.

One day perhaps Mr. Vitter can uphold his "Family Values" and lead other youth, young and old men ways to avoid sexual temptations, loosing control, lying to oneself and others. This is what destroys TRUST in leadership, role models, and relationships. A SAD lesson to learn!

Posted by: K Ziegler, La. | July 12, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

For all of you Jesus freaks out there on the right wing of the right wing-Enough already.Don't you people ever get it. Isn't there a moral code of the ten best laws ever given to man? Thou shall not have sex outside of marriage.He did. He's a sinner. He broke God's law.He broke man's law because prostitution is illegal in 49 states.That's the problem with setting one as the moral protector of society. There are at the present time, and historically,more crimes, murders,deceit,in the name of God than with many a tyrant. T wit: Jihad,The Crusades,The Inquisation,The Witch Trials,and on and on ad nausium. You people make me sick. If you all trully belive in an afterlife then you are all ensconsed in the seventh circle of Dante's Inferno. Read The DEvine Comedy and se who are your neighbors.

Posted by: JohnBoy | July 12, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

For all of you Jesus freaks out there on the right wing of the right wing-Enough already.Don't you people ever get it. Isn't there a moral code of the ten best laws ever given to man? Thou shall not have sex outside of marriage.He did. He's a sinner. He broke God's law.He broke man's law because prostitution is illegal in 49 states.That's the problem with setting one as the moral protector of society. There are at the present time, and historically,more crimes, murders,deceit,in the name of God than with many a tyrant. T wit: Jihad,The Crusades,The Inquisation,The Witch Trials,and on and on ad nausium. You people make me sick. If you all trully belive in an afterlife then you are all ensconsed in the seventh circle of Dante's Inferno. Read The DEvine Comedy and se who are your neighbors.

Posted by: JohnBoy | July 12, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

This just in... David Vitter was forgiven. Source: God, Messenger: Jimmy.

Posted by: Dr. James Swagert | July 12, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm more than sick and tired of GOP members using their publicly pronounced religious beliefs to hide their personal sexual kinks and peccadilloes. It is now down to where you have to ask a Republican if he is a Mark Foley winger, a Ted Bundy winger, a Newt Gingrich-Mary Kay Letourneau marry your high school teacher winger, or if they are just regular respectable thieves and liars.

Posted by: Biff Spaceman | July 12, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

He should have just slept with an intern. Then lied about it.

Posted by: Mark | July 12, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

"and even the voices of reason in the press like Sean Hannity..."

This made me laugh! Got to be satire.

Vitter can sin and be forgiven but he cannot be allowed to legislate morality when he has none. That's why separation of church and state exists. Go do what you will and later do right by your god. Meanwhile let me do as I will and I'll do right by mine.

Posted by: rickygee | July 12, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

NOLA:
It's people like you and your party that have brought this country down. You continue to flog and crucify Clinton, but IT'S OKAY FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO DO IT. You say Clinton "lied". So okay, what the heck has Vitter been doing the last 3 or 4 years? Telling the truth? Maybe if Vitter had been put on the stand in a court of law in front of God and the whole country, he would have lied too. Except, in this case, the evidence was there to prove him a liar.

Also, VITTER LIED to America, by prosecuting Clinton and going after him, as well as "promoting family values and being faithful to your wife" when he's out having fantasy sex with hookers.

Could you please explain HOW THIS IS NOT A LIE???????

Posted by: Cheryl | July 13, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Give him a call. I did. His staff was oh so friendly. (well, I exaggerate) Let them know that you don't want someone who is a hypocrite and lawbreaker to represent you and you want him to step down. While God may forgive him, you are not going to. Oh, and you pay his salary and their salary.

Washington, D.C.
516 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4623
Fax: (202) 228-5061

Posted by: Jim | July 13, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Actually... I find this to be another indication that a good chunk of our politicians are worthless, power corrupt, on-the-take idiots. While this is a conservative Republican, our past 30-ish years is full of hypocritical displays like this which cross political parties and conservative/liberal boundaries (oh, and religious affiliation/non-affiliation as well). It only makes me wonder if this has not been the status quo throughout history and only now with our liberal/conservative press bias (depending on your particular point of view) has it come to light. Seems to me that hypocrisy runs rampant throughout politics (including at the local level and even lowly school boards).

Posted by: kent | July 13, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I am unsure why everyone is going crazy over this issue.
If it is about paying for sex, that's crazy. What no one has said about the whole thing is that we all pay for sex.

For example;
If you are married, dating or just lusting; sex cost money. Think of all of the money that men spend to make their wife or girlfriend happy. If the woman is not happy; sorry, but you will not be having sex!

IT ALL COST MONEY.

I guess we all pay for sex one way or another.

As for as prostitution:

Everyone who is working to pay their bills is into prostitution. If another company calls you and offer you $100/hr more then what you are make now would you leave your job for the new one?

It is called "INDUSTRIAL PROSTITUTION".

Go head tell me I'm not right.

Posted by: Mark | July 13, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

There is a HOUSE in New Orleans...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 12:19 AM | Report abuse

There is a HOUSE in New Orleans...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 12:19 AM | Report abuse

If Vitter's contention is valid, then we might as well disband all our courts and pack off all our judges, because all we need is to settle with our spouses and with God. Does he think America has become so dumb that he can sell them such baloney?

Posted by: Alex Zachariah | July 14, 2007 8:40 AM | Report abuse

So what, a good man has been caught with his pants down? Enjoy that $200 meal with your date before you take her home and boink her brains out.

Posted by: Jason in Louisiana | July 14, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

A. Platt,
Thank you for your compliments and response. Please do not underestimate my belief in democracy. I definitely agree with you that we should keep those in power in check. Otherwise, well, I don't even want to consider what would happen. My basic point however, is that the vast majority of people on this blog do not sound mature or wise, and are not properly addressing the situation. More of, most people are trying to put down each other's political opinions and insult each other. We need to do our jobs as responsible citizens and address the issue, but not in the manner in which this blog is doing so. Thanks!

Posted by: Colette | July 14, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

To William who stated "dont judge this man as he is a mortal man as we are. thou shall not judge."
Let's see, it was VITTER himself who has been judging others and trying to pass legislation to enforce others to live a way that even he chose not to live.
The fact that he cries so loudly against gays causes me to suspect the man may also be bisexual.

Posted by: Chrissiann | July 15, 2007 5:45 AM | Report abuse

Certain irony here. Both Flynt and Vitter wear diapers. Flynt because he has no choice and Vitter because he finds it sexually stimulating.

I expect to hear Vitter is entering a' diaper rehab program" at any moment.

Posted by: John | July 15, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Don't I recall hearing Vitter's lovely wife berating Hillary Clinton's decision to "stand by her man" after Monicagate? Seems as though I recall a comment she made about "turning into Lorena Bobbitt" if that ever happened to her. Hey, Mrs. Vitter, bought a new set of steak knives lately?

Posted by: Nunya | July 15, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me where I can find a good sharp knife?

Posted by: Wendy Vitter, wife of David Vitter | July 15, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Of course, there are still people using Clinton as a comparison to what Vitter has done. Excuse me, but last I checked, prostitution is illegal. Clinton had sex with another consentual adult. How could Vitter lie? His phone number is clearly on the list, so it would have been futile to try to cover it up. Also, Vitter belongs to a political party that claimed Christian status and higher morals and family values than the "other" political party back in the 2004 election and used these topics for his platform to get elected himself. That's why this scandal is so much harder to stomach.

Posted by: Nunya | July 15, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Larry Flynt for President 2008

Posted by: Amanda B. Reckonwith | July 15, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"I do not forgive David Vitter despite what he thinks".---God

Posted by: pattismithrocks | July 16, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

What"innocent until proven guilty"??? The pervert confessed already and said his wife had forgiven him and he hoped that God had also. While he tells everyone else how to live he does as he damn well pleases and EXPECTS all to still believe his BS. Get real if he is a representative of religion I want to stay far from that type of religion. All of you who stand by a confessed adulterer and swear he is a man of God are sick or stupid,take your choice.

Posted by: one old man | July 16, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

FUNNY HOW THE VITTERS ATTITUDE HAS CHANGED SINCE THE SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT. DURING THE CLINTON ERA THEIR THOUGHTS WAS -LEAVE BILL--STEP DOWN BILL--OOOHH BUT NOW IT IS DIFFERENT. NOW IF YOU NEED A SCRIPTURE CHEW ON THIS ONE"BRETHREN IF A MAN BE OVERTAKEN IN A FAULT, YE WHICH ARE SPIRITUAL, RESTORE SUCH AN ONE IN THE SPRIRT OF MEEKNESS;CONSIDERING THYSELF, LEST THOU ALSO BE TEMPTED." GALATIANS 6:1

Posted by: SEDBOY | July 17, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Just as Clinton was able to do his job DESPITE his shortcomings, so is Vitter. This does not in any way diminish his ability to represent his constituents, nor does it diminish the values he espouses, whether sincerely or hypocritically. He will be reelected.
And incidentally, I was a big Clinton fan and voted for him in both elections. Vitter is Louisiana's only voice of reason in the Senate. This does not change that. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 17, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse

How convenient God is. Those God damned always take God's forgiveness as granted. Unfortunately, this time, the God for Vitter is the people, not the imaginary God in church.

Posted by: Kitty | July 17, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I found the comments by Wendy Vitter to be awful.

She thought it was terrible that the media would be searching for her husband as the news was breaking about his affairs. He went into hiding, missing legislative action due to his personal deeds.

This woman needs to know her husband is on the public payroll and that he got on the payroll by establishing himself as a good family man.

He continues to list his wife on his official biography page, so she is still seen as a political asset.

She needs to be quiet and take what comes their way as a couple.

Posted by: Dan | July 17, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

When Vitter and his ilk stay out of 300 million American's bedrooms, 300 million Americans will stay out of his four,five...and counting.

Posted by: Begonia Buzzkill | July 17, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

When Vitter and his ilk stay out of 300 million American's bedrooms, 300 million Americans will stay out of his four, five...and counting.

Posted by: Begonia Buzzkill | July 17, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Marmalade (ooh, hey hey hey)
Touch of her skin feeling silky smooth, hey
Colour of café au lait (all right)
Made the savage beast inside roar until he cried...
More (more), more (more), more (more)!

Now he's back home doin' 9 to 5 (9 to 5)
Livin' the grey flannel life (oh pity)
But when he turns off to sleep memories creep...
More (more), more (more), more (more)!

Gitchie, gitchie, ya ya da da (yeah-ey)!
Gitchie, gitchie, ya ya here (here)
Mocha Chocolata ya ya (ooh yeah)
Creole Lady Marmalade...

Posted by: Lady Marmalade | July 17, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

GOP = Family Values...NOT!! Need more proof?

http://tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770711023

Florida Rep. Robert "Bob" Allen, R-Merritt Island, was arrested this afternoon at Veteran's Memorial Park on East Broad Street for solicitation for prostitution.

He is currently being booked into Brevard County Jail in Sharpes. The charge is a second-degree misdemeanor, according to police.

According to police, the park was under surveillance today by a detail of undercover Titusville Police officers. Officers noticed Allen acting suspicious as he went in and out of the men's restroom three times. Minutes later, he solicited an undercover male officer inside the restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20.

Posted by: Walrus Gumboot | July 17, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Vitter should try to be a good Christian, call Bill say sorry, now that every one knows he is human like the rest of us. Not some saint judging others and helping take people's rights away. We still got nothing but love here on earth for fallen saints.

Posted by: Loving Atheist | July 19, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

I love it.

Posted by: KJr | July 19, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I live in New Orleans and I have some rental properties which are just now being rented after a grueling 2 years gutting, mold remediation, and rebuilding everything back ourselves. I've had one applicant who moved back here with everything in a rental truck, desperately looking for an apartment before her FEMA voucher expires, and before I could move her in, it did expire. Another was in a trailer on church grounds, which she needed to vacate but FEMA wouldn't verify her voucher status because she is still in a trailer. She must vacate the trailer to get into the voucher system, but she can't vacate until she gets an apartment, and she can't get an apartment until a landlord can verify her voucher! So she is stuck in a Catch-22 situation. These people are virtually HOMELESS! This is what we are going through in New Orleans right now, and THIS COUNTRY IS WORRIED ABOUT VITTER?
GROW UP!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

He spoke from the heart. No more corruption and lies. Don't let the MSM set the agenda. They are beholden to their corporate paymasters. Support Kucinich, he is for the people!!! Us AMERICANS!! They are dismissing him. Don't you notice their MSM elitist lies and posturing to play him out! HR676! NOW!!

Hillary Clinton can suck my ass!! So do Obama & Edwards. MSM & elitist are hypocrites, liars & corrupted human beings! They are why Congress have such a low approval rating than Dubya! Because these hypocrites even in a Democratic control Congress for 8 months DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. Our situation now!

Check their voting records & history!! What hypocrisy!! Vote them out, get more independent for the people in Congress or vote "REAL" democrats like Kucinich!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3441842

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1595243,00.html

People with character like Larry Flynn, Michael Moore & Stephen Colbert should be for President!!

The current US government is morally corrupt & a circus!! Despicable!!!

Posted by: Circus | August 12, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

The problem is many so-called Christians are under delusion. I believe anyone is forgiven when one confesses sins, but that doesn't mean they never sinned.

The "smear campaign" should be embraced by Christians as a gift from God, because it will sift out the chaff. A true Christian expects persecution for being righteous. When someone is persecuted for being unrighteous, he should admit he deserves it and take it as his sign from God that he's got some repenting to do.

Posted by: Chris | August 28, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

A couple of Republicans are actually gay. OMG!!!!

That means that all conservative ideas are wrong and we really should have gay marriage and become a socialist welfare state and have activist liberal government crusading for abortion and gay rights and raising taxes for endless government programs and regulations.

NOT!!

I don't care if a few Republicans are gay, it doesn't mean they all are. And it certainly doesn't discount all of Conservative, classical* liberalism.

*not new age feelgood bull****

Posted by: Jorge | August 28, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Vitter broke the law.
While it is true we should not judge his sexual choices or him as a human being, we can certainly judge him as a senator and a role model.
I particularly find his hypocrisy disturbing, not his immorality.
Theres not much to it besides the fact that he should not continue to be a senator.

Posted by: Ana | August 30, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

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