Rep. Moran Taken to Woodshed by Jewish Constituents

Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA.) had what might be characterized as a "come to Moses" meeting with a handful of Jewish constituents angered by his recent assertion that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) pushed the United States into war in Iraq.

Jim Moran
Rep. Jim Moran, who represents the portion of Northern Virginia that borders Washington, has once again angered Jewish groups with a remark about Israel's influence on U.S. foreign policy. (By Gerald Martineau -- The Washington Post)

Six members of AIPAC, five of whom are Moran's constituents, aired their grievances during a private meeting in the congressman's Capitol Hill office last Thursday. The essence of their message, as one participant summarized, was: "Cut it out, Jim."

The participant said the group explained to Moran -- a repeat offender in the eyes of the Jewish community -- that his comments were "false and seriously offensive" and told him they hoped he would "check his facts better before he talks" in the future.

That source and another participant who spoke about the meeting on the condition of anonymity said they're now waiting to see how Moran will respond and whether he will seek to mend fences with constituents he offended. Both used the expression, "The ball's in his court."

As to whether that means the group hopes to get an apology or a clarification from the congressman, one of the sources said, "I have no expectations on this." A third source familiar with the meeting said Moran neither apologized nor offered to retract his comments about the pro-Israel lobby.

The meeting was called in response to Moran's explosive comments in an interview with Tikkun magazine in which he said AIPAC "has pushed this war from the beginning...They are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful -- most of them are quite wealthy -- they have been able to exert power."

Moran's Jewish Democratic colleagues, led by influential Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), denounced the Virginia lawmaker in an angry letter last week, saying, "The idea that the war in Iraq began because of the influence of Jewish Americans is factually incorrect and unfortunately fits the anti-Semitic stereotypes some have used historically against Jews."

House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer called Moran's comments "inaccurate, wrong and unfortunate." And House Speaker Nancy Pelosi piled on, saying, "I disagree and reject Congressman Moran's characterization of AIPAC. AIPAC did not lead us into this disastrous war in Iraq. President Bush and Vice President Cheney did."

Then came the private face-to-face in Moran's office last week. The meeting was called by AIPAC member Jerome Chapman, an attorney with Arnold & Porter who has lobbied Moran for years on issues dear to AIPAC.

Chapman, who is also a constituent of Moran's, said, "It wasn't the first time he has made remarks in this vein. What I'm hoping is it's the last time." (He was alluding, of course, to Moran's other infamous comment, in 2003, when the congressman said, "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this.")

Chapman was relieved this week to see Moran voting with AIPAC on a bill to impose tough sanctions against Iran. He even sent a thank-you email to Moran's chief of staff saying, "Please let Jim know that I thank him for the vote."

The vote on Iran sanctions was one thing, an apology on his inexplicable belief that AIPAC lobbied for the war in Iraq may be quite another.

Moran spokesman Austin Durrer said, "The Congressman met with local AIPAC leaders for two hours last week and appreciated hearing their concerns. His opinion still differs from theirs but the lines of communication will remain open to discuss the underlying issues raised in the Tikkun article."

By Mary Ann Akers |  September 26, 2007; 10:52 PM ET
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The Senate appeared to all but declared war on Iran today in a "sense of the Senate" amendment sponsored by Senators Kyl and Lieberman. How did it come about that 76 Senators want to label Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization and approve of military operations to destabilize the legitimate government of Iran? The coincidence between the Senators who voted for the Authorization against Iraq in 2002 and who voted for this amendment is remarkable, although John Kerry was one exception.

Posted by: Chris Baker | September 27, 2007 12:11 AM

So what is the reason for this behavior?


GOP fears the Jewish Lobby and that is the truth, no matter what percentage they represent their influence is far greater than any group in America today? ------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=596

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Posted by: PollM | September 27, 2007 12:12 AM

Ms. Akers writes of Rep. Jim Moran's "inexplicable belief that AIPAC lobbied for the war in Iraq," as if such a thing is akin to a western sunrise.
There is a history regarding AIPAC's behavior in the year preceding Bush's invasion of Iraq. What is it? Is it (a) so commonly known that it needs no explication; or (b) too hot a potato for Ms. Akers to grasp; or (c) embarrassingly (for some) close to Moran's description?
It's been reported that last winter AIPAC pressure caused the House Democrats to withdraw a measure requiring Bush to obtain congressional approval before launching any military attack on Iran. Is this true? Is it relevant?
It is relevant, because Moran's larger point relates to the political influence of the citizen groups, known as the Israel Lobby, exercising their First Amendment rights for congressional and executive actions they deem favorable to Israel. This is the subject of a well-known book by Professors Meersheimer and Walt, whose work has prompted predictable accusations of antisemitism from the more shrill elements among these groups.
The point here is not to belabor the pros and cons of the Lobby or of the book. It is to encourage the Post to report the facts relating to Moran's accusation. What did AIPAC do, if anything, to promote or discourage the Iraq war? Even if Bush was hellbent to have war--what, after all, did he know of war?--regardless of AIPAC's position on the subject, it would be useful to know what that position was.
In other words, get beyond the accusations and report the facts. By failing to commit journalism on this story, the Post is vulnerable to the suspicion that it does not want to offend the people Moran offended.

Posted by: Glenn Becker | September 27, 2007 03:20 AM

If the Jews are so powerful, why are they always on the short end of the stick? I find it extremely ludacris that there are those who still carry these beliefs from the Tenth Century forward. Of course there are still whites in this country who feel blacks are inferior.

Posted by: John Percer | September 27, 2007 08:11 AM

I have to agree with Mr. Becker. I would love to know if there was any influence or even a position - public or private - staked out by AIPAC. If Moran is talking out of his rear, I as a voter need to know that. If AIPAC is trying to diffuse the topic by squelching any rational discussion behind charges of antisemitism, then that is also important to report.

Moran does have a history of popping off without the facts, but AIPAC is hardly your average citizens group. C'mon Post...LOOK INTO IT AND REPORT!

Posted by: SWB | September 27, 2007 08:39 AM

Akers mentions Moran's "inexplicable belief" that AIPAC pushed for the war in Iraq. How can she write that stuff, and how can The Post publish it, with a straight face? How can you say something like that when anyone with half a brain (or more) KNOWS that AIPAC pushed for the war, just as they are pushing for an attack on Iran right now. You people are discusting!

Posted by: W.Lightfoot | September 27, 2007 08:52 AM

Its a good thing Moran chose Jews rather than muslims to denigrate.

He would be dealing with more than a couple of irate constituents in a closed door meeting.

Need an example?

Post a cartoon.

Posted by: George | September 27, 2007 09:15 AM

I hope the Irony of claiming the post is reporting this issue merely because its run by the Jewish Cabal is not lost on those posters. However anyone with such idiotic (and pretty much anti-semetic) views probably can't figure that out on their own.

Posted by: Jon | September 27, 2007 10:03 AM

Oh come on! Does anyone really think Bush needed support for the war. He was hell bent on this before he took office. But, on another note, I am so tired, Jon, of people like you who assert "anti semitism" every time someone criticizes the Jewish government. You know they have rendered their share of atrocities. I am tired of the US supporting their war on Palestine.

Posted by: TM | September 27, 2007 11:27 AM

Moran is an embarrassment and, on a more practical level, a terrible and aggressive driver. A few months ago, he nearly ran me (and several others) off the road driving down the GW Parkway and around the ramp onto the 14th St. Bridge. He was cutting people off, butting in lines of traffic, and generally displaying all the worst habits of area drivers. Not the best way to win votes, especially when driving his official car with Congressional plates!

Posted by: North Arlington | September 27, 2007 11:34 AM

Just another case of the damn Jewish Lobby asserting their power and influnce. When will it stop. Ole Jim should tell them to go to hell.

Posted by: Jack | September 27, 2007 12:00 PM

Why isn't the Washington Post telling its readers the names of the six AIPAC powerbrokers who arranged a 2 hour meeting to air their anger with a U.S. Representative. Why doesn't the Post do an expose' on AIPAC, the fourth most powerful (behind the sceens) lobby in Washington, D.C. Publish a list of its employees and members. If the Israel Lobby
is a myth; then why are so many current and past Politicians writing and speaking out, denying that it exists. In the national Media, they further deny that it spys or manipulates U.S. military and foreign policy. I think AIPAC should be investigated by the U.S. Congress!!!
Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Posted by: J.A.Madison | September 27, 2007 01:08 PM

Why isn't the Washington Post telling its readers the names of the six AIPAC powerbrokers who arranged a 2 hour meeting to air their anger with a U.S. Representative. Why doesn't the Post do an expose' on AIPAC, the fourth most powerful (behind the sceens) lobby in Washington, D.C. Publish a list of its employees and members. If the Israel Lobby
is a myth; then why are so many current and past Politicians writing and speaking out, denying that it exists. In the national Media, they further deny that it spys or manipulates U.S. military and foreign policy. I think AIPAC should be investigated by the U.S. Congress!!!
Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Posted by: J.A.Madison | September 27, 2007 01:20 PM

Glenn Becker makes perfect sense. Can we look at the facts, first, before levelling hysterical charges of anti-Semitism? For my own part, Moran's comments don't seem to warrant these ugly allegations of racism. That his opponents rely on over-the-top ad hominem attacks, rather than disputing Moran's allegations on the facts, suggests that Moran is right...and that he has hit a nerve.

Posted by: M David Levi | September 27, 2007 01:31 PM

I'll have to agree that this was terrible sloppy reporting. First off is the failure to note whether AIPAC did or did not lobby for the war. Second is the implicit and unchallenged assumption that AIPAC is coextensive with the Jewish people, or even Jewish Americans. That's a stupid supposition, at least for anyone who actually has Jewish friends and acquaintances. In fact, most of my Jewish friends were opposed to the war from the start and abhor hard-right wing Israeli politics of the sort that AIPAC seems to represent. And it's not like Tikkun Magazine (which is standing up for congressman Moran) is an anti-semitic publication. Rather, they are more indicative of American Jewish opinion as a whole (i.e. left of center). But then, it's not all that suprising to find the Washington Post piling on Moran. After all, this publication's editorial pages were as instrumental as any in cheerleading this disastrous war from its inception.

Posted by: David Flores | September 27, 2007 01:32 PM

This is an easy one. All the congressman has to do is refuse the group's money, and ignore their support for the party. Then presto, the group has no influence.

Posted by: Bob | September 27, 2007 01:36 PM

In the face of powers of influence and suppression by AIPAC and others as well as biased subtle reporting such as by Akers, Representative Moran has the courage to voice his concerns about undue influence on American international policy. He is no more antisemitic than many of us who truly believe Israel's rights to exist but also in the rights of Palestinians to a country as well. We also believe that a more balanced policy on this issue by America would go a long way in offsetting terrorism and resolving the crisis in the Middle East. Moran shows more courage than most other politicians to say what he believes is in America's best interest in the face if being "taken to the woodshed". For this I applaud him.

Posted by: tuscan of virginia | September 27, 2007 01:57 PM

What in the world is "inexplicable" about Moran's stating something that is so obvious?

Posted by: Slow Match in GA | September 27, 2007 02:02 PM

He speaks truth to power
AIPAC is a lobby for a foreign power Israel
Israel's interests at times are not the same as the USA
When they are not american citizens need to put the interests of the USA first

Posted by: | September 27, 2007 05:28 PM

Calling the Washington Post a conservative paper as has been implied in some of these posts is quite funny.

Saying AIPAC lobbied for the war is also a blatently wrong comment. AIPAC did not lobby for the war, and there is proof that Israel was pushing against ousting Saddam and told Bush. Jews have been one of the most vocal groups against the war, so blaming the war on Israel or Jews is downright stupid.

Posted by: Jon | September 27, 2007 05:57 PM

That Moran is catching hell is only to be expected, that what he said in Tikkun is completely accurate is aside the point. When slavishly defending Israel don't let facts get in your way.

One would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind, or a columnist with the Washington Post to have missed noting that most if not all of the major Jewish organizations backed the war in Iraq while upwards of 70% or more of American Jews opposed it.

In this light note Waxman's response, which is the usual: "The idea that the war in Iraq began because of the influence of Jewish Americans is factually incorrect and unfortunately fits the anti-Semitic stereotypes some have used historically against Jews."

What Waxman is saying without thinking (as usual when it comes to Israel) is that Israel and all Jews are one and the same, that the Israel Lobby and all Jews are one and the same - even when a majority of the latter opposes the position of the former. Therefore to attack the Lobby is to attack the Jews and, ipso facto, anti-semitic. That this logic - the stripping away of Jewish individuality for a grand conspiracy theory, that all Jews support Israel, all Jews do this or that - is itself a classic anti-semitic trope is a rarely commented upon irony, but hardly surprising. Zionism and anti-semitism have always represented two sides of the same coin.

Posted by: Grif | September 27, 2007 07:45 PM

Follow the money! How much aid do we give to Israel compared to other nations? Are other nations equally at risk, if not more so? What about the millions of migrants in Iraq and elsewhere? Before the Washington Post assigns another story to Rep. Moran's supposed antisemitism, please do a little research into AIPAC. Who are the members? And who are there main contributors? Where are the connections between the Neo-Con/ Neo-Liberal military industrial complex? I am sorry but we have been supporting Israel both economically and militarily since it's conception. A country is made up of people. So who are the players and what is their connection to AIPAC and our law makers? Or is that classified information too. Haven't we learned from our experience with sanctions in Iraq, that sanctions don't work? I, for one, don't want to go down the same road with Iran that we went down with Iraq. There has to be a better way, but it will never happen while the decisions of a few are heralded above the interests of most U.S. citizens and the idea of a negotiated peace.

Posted by: Bilbro | September 27, 2007 10:32 PM

Removing Saddam Hussein and liberating 25 or 30 million Iraqis was a good thing, regardless of who supported it in the beginning. There were a lot of Jews, Christians, and a lot of Moslems as well, who wanted this to happen -- too bad it didn't happen before 2003. As for Congressman Moran, he's been an embarrassment to his district for many years, siding with America's enemies and against our friends. Does anyone know where he gets his campaign funds?

Posted by: J Baustian | September 27, 2007 10:37 PM

Representative Jim Moran has said comments that he probably regrets and we have all done that before, his was a little serious and somewhat racist and he has done it two times and that says that he is sure that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee did support the Iraq war, we all know that that is impossible so if Mr. Moran is sure about something that is impossible then that makes him crazy, then he shouldn't be a representative, but he is so he should just learn to hold his tongue and talk about something that he knows is true and knows that the others will agree, but it is America and there is the Freedom of Speech so he can do whatever he wants. He really should think before speaking.

Posted by: somemongolianguy | September 27, 2007 10:51 PM

If AIPAC is so powerful, how has Moran managed to get elected?

Posted by: Fran | September 28, 2007 08:11 AM

I would have to agree. I would like to see more indepth reporting on the influence of the Jewish lobby. This stems, not from antisemitism (I am part Jewish), but my questions about the "inexplicable" US policies concerning Isreal. While I don't believe they led us into this war, they do seem to exert undue influence on this government (Republican and Demoncratic alike). And I don't like the way they charge antisemitism everytime someone daress raise concerns about our policies...remember Carter's book? Maybe this is really the third rail of American politics? And journalism?

Posted by: EPM | September 28, 2007 12:36 PM

The article stated that Henry Waxman, Steny
Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi all reprimanded Moran.

All three of the above mentioned are recipients of large donations from AIPAC.
In fact they are owned by AIPAC.

It is my opinion if Henry, Steny or Nancy
had to decide a vote in favor of their constituents or AIPAC, AIPAC would win every time.

Nancy Pelosi accepted $84,8000 total from
AIPAC ($22,350 in 2006)
Steny Hoyer collected $44,500 in 2006
Waxman $1,000 in 2006 but $36,832 for a
career total.

Just ask Jack Murtha how much influence the lobby has, when Pelosi wanted Murtha as the House Majority Leader, the Lobby objected because Steny was their boy.

Posted by: Kate Bates | September 28, 2007 01:40 PM

The word missing from this discussion is "neoconservative". The neocons, some of whom are Jewish ex-Trots who have lurched over to the fascist side of the spectrum, carried water for Bush and Cheney. AIPAC was part of this. If they thought this would somehow help Israel, and (they would argue) the US as well, it was their right to promote the war, just as they now seem to feel attacking Iran would be a darn good idea. But it is ludicrous to suggest that AIPAC is coterminous with the entire Jewish community in the United States. They represent a conservative minority who are actually damaging Israel's interests, if one believes that peace is in Israel's interest. They seem to think not.

Ever since Rabin was shot, Israel has been in a spiral of chaos. I remember the night I saw it on the front page of the NY Times, I said "Oh my God!", and the Arab guy who ran the newsstand said, "Yes, it is terrible, because he was for peace, and we need peace. I am Palestinian, but I think this is terrible." If Israel is eventually destroyed, the people who run AIPAC will have helped to do it by their aggressive hard-right lobbying for war and more war.

I live in Brooklyn and I don't know a single person, Jewish or part Jewish or whatever, who thinks the war is right or good, much less helping Israel. Israel is becoming a paranoid little garrison state, armed to the teeth but scared to death. Olmert is trying but he is not up to the job. And AIPAC only makes it worse. Moran's comments are almost always clumsy, but not "inexplicable". All AIPAC has to do is scream "anti-Semitism" and all discussion must cease. They do not represent most Jewish Americans, or Jewish Israelis for that matter. To suggest that Jewish opinion on the Middle East is monolithic is itself anti-Semitic. Yes, Bush/Cheney started the war, but AIPAC and their allies are what in AA they call "enablers". They certainly didn't try to stop it, did they?

The Washington Post's coverage since September 11th has sometimes been incisive but often pathetic, depending on the reporter. This, I suggest, falls into the pathetic category.

Posted by: Joe Schmoe | September 28, 2007 02:00 PM

As you encourage users to analyze,comment on and even challenge WAPO's articles ...(your caption), Let me just say two things:

1) Ms Akers should have some courage and offer us a thorough investigative piece of journalism: like the names of the six members of AIPAC mentioned in her article, or google AIPAC and report some of their points of view and declarations about the run up to the disastrous war in Iraq, and the ME in general, tell us about AIPAC's position concerning Iran, or the links, if any with the neo-cons and Dick Cheney, etc...etc...

"Inexplicable belief" doesn't help the casual reader to have a balanced opinion on a serious matter like this: war and peace, and world stability.

So please let there be some good reporting or else keep of this landmine Ms Akers. The casual reader is not that gullible or lazy person unable to check elsewhere some good stories on this subject.

2) Remember that an over use of the accusation of antisemitism for gentiles, and self-hating jew, for the people of this faith criticizing Israel, does not help in any way to confront the problem with decent commonsense.....foxblues


Posted by: foxblues | September 29, 2007 08:27 PM

As you encourage users to analyze,comment on and even challenge WAPO's articles ...(your caption), Let me just say two things:

1) Ms Akers should have some courage and offer us a thorough investigative piece of journalism: like the names of the six members of AIPAC mentioned in her article, or google AIPAC and report some of their points of view and declarations about the run up to the disastrous war in Iraq, and the ME in general, tell us about AIPAC's position concerning Iran, or the links, if any with the neo-cons and Dick Cheney, etc...etc...

"Inexplicable belief" doesn't help the casual reader to have a balanced opinion on a serious matter like this: war and peace, and world stability.

So please let there be some good reporting or else keep off this landmine Ms Akers. The casual reader is not that gullible or lazy person unable to check elsewhere some good stories on this subject.

2) Remember that an over use of the accusation of antisemitism for gentiles, and self-hating jew, for the people of this faith criticizing Israel, does not help in any way to confront the problem with decent commonsense.....foxblues


2)It is getting more and more ludicrous to

Posted by: foxblues | September 29, 2007 08:40 PM

As you encourage users to analyze,comment on and even challenge WAPO's articles ...(your caption), Let me just say two things:

1) Ms Akers should have some courage and offer us a thorough investigative piece of journalism: like the names of the six members of AIPAC mentioned in her article, or google AIPAC and report some of their points of view and declarations about the run up to the disastrous war in Iraq, and the ME in general, tell us about AIPAC's position concerning Iran, or the links, if any with the neo-cons and Dick Cheney, etc...etc...

"Inexplicable belief" doesn't help the casual reader to have a balanced opinion on a serious matter like this: war and peace, and world stability.

So please let there be some good reporting or else keep off this landmine Ms Akers. The casual reader is not that gullible or lazy person unable to check elsewhere some good stories on this subject.

2) Remember that an over use of the accusation of antisemitism for gentiles, and self-hating jew, for the people of this faith criticizing Israel, does not help in any way to confront the problem with decent commonsense.....foxblues


Posted by: boubker3@wanadoo.fr | September 29, 2007 08:42 PM

As you encourage users to analyze,comment on and even challenge WAPO's articles ...(your caption), Let me just say two things:

1) Ms Akers should have some courage and offer us a thorough investigative piece of journalism: like the names of the six members of AIPAC mentioned in her article, or google AIPAC and report some of their points of view and declarations about the run up to the disastrous war in Iraq, and the ME in general, tell us about AIPAC's position concerning Iran, or the links, if any with the neo-cons and Dick Cheney, etc...etc...

"Inexplicable belief" doesn't help the casual reader to have a balanced opinion on a serious matter like this: war and peace, and world stability.

So please let there be some good reporting or else keep off this landmine Ms Akers. The casual reader is not that gullible or lazy person unable to check elsewhere some good stories on this subject.

2) Remember that an over use of the accusation of antisemitism for gentiles, and self-hating jew, for the people of this faith criticizing Israel, does not help in any way to confront the problem with decent commonsense.....foxblues


Posted by: benkaddour | September 29, 2007 08:43 PM

I have been trying to send a post for more than an hour. No way!

1)What is going on again in the WaPo?

2)Why is it impossible, for some weeks now, to get to the comment section for any article?

3)Why is your new system of loading inoperative: it kept turning around and around to no avail?

4) Finally, why more and more "discussion closed for this article" for brand new ones?
Please give some clarifications. Thanks

................foxblues

Posted by: benkaddour | September 29, 2007 08:56 PM

As a Jewish American, I think it is quite fair and not anti-semitic to be critical of Israel and its supporters. So long as that support, which includes Evangelical Christians, is characterized as the Israel Lobby and not the Jewish Lobby, which is an anti-semitic slur.

I am an agnostic on Jim Moran and his views. I believe that prominent supporters of Israel, including Wolfowitz, Lieberman, Perle, and Kristol, pushed for the war along with the oil lobby. Whether those individuals are associated with AIPAC or not, I do not know, but they can certainly be identified as part of the Israel lobby. That is fair political discussion and should not be confused with anti-semitism.

Posted by: Sam | October 1, 2007 01:06 PM

Jim Moran is a great man and have the guts to standing up for AIPAC.
America should come first and not Israel.

Posted by: Karl Stien | October 1, 2007 04:06 PM

"Anti-semite" is the standard AIPAC way to stop or dissuade any investigation. Discussion which questions Israel's occupation of territory within Syria's national borders or the occupation beyond UN reconized Israeli borders (incl.West Bank, Taza, and Jerusalem) is quashed as bing "Anti-semite". Even other Semites (Arabs, Syrians, Iraquis, Jordanians...are accused of being "Anti-Semite".
The head of AL Jazeera' DC office had to remind the (100% predictable,Zionist) would-be dominators of of a discussion at Goucher College, Baltimoreany that
"I am a Semite!"
The association with Hitler of "Anti-Semite" is intentional, refreshed and cultured purposely.

Working below the radar screen works; don't expect AIPAC or its members' tactics to to change.

Posted by: hwgthrice | October 1, 2007 04:09 PM

I applaud Congressman Moran for his courage.

Posted by: Mary Jo Robertiello | October 1, 2007 04:41 PM

Bravo Moran for voicing what many of us have thought. Heaven forbid there be free speech when it comes to AIPAC. Look into their records to see how many congressmen they have in their pockets.

Posted by: Mimi | October 1, 2007 05:03 PM

The Lobby on Trial
Upcoming legal battle dramatizes rising concern about the Israel lobby

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11695

Posted by: mdyoung | October 1, 2007 10:19 PM

There is no place for Moran in public life. He can't live up to the moral or intellectual level that a good Represenative should, especially for the 10th.

Posted by: lorddunsmore | October 2, 2007 12:16 PM

I am in favor of defending Israel. I think it's the right thing to do. But I think the Jewish constituency in question needs to recognize that the U.S. has made a lot of enemies in the Middle East primarily because of its alliance with Israel. Would the U.S. be in Iraq if it weren't for Israel?...probably not. Would it have disputes with Syria, Iran and radicals in Pakistan and Lebanon? Probably not. Does AIPAC do what it can to support pro-Israel policy? Of course it does. Moran was just stating the obvious. To call him "anti-semitic," "racist," or anything similar is a cheap shot.

Posted by: ttj1 | October 2, 2007 02:44 PM

All lobbying groups need to be investigated as to the $$$ they provide and their agenda. PERIOD!!! AGAIN I agree WHO ARE THE six AIPAC powerbrokers who arranged a 2 hour meeting to air their anger with a U.S. Representative?? Or did this paper also bow down to pressure from the AIPAC??

Posted by: Concerned citizen | October 3, 2007 08:39 AM

Don't apologize, Jim! Stand up to the single-issue AIPAC bums. They - and their money - are responsible for the poisoning of our relations with every other country in the Middle East. Tell them to stick it. Their game is raw intimidation. But the times, they are a-changing. I believe most of the country, however low-key, is with you.

Posted by: Doug | October 3, 2007 10:55 AM

With former AIPAC officials Keith Weissman and Steve Rosen under indictment for espionage (Case No. 1:05cr225 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia), it is not inappropriate to ask if the pro-Israel lobby is behaving appropriately.

That Jim Moran has the courage to raise such issues is to his credit as a Congressman.

Posted by: Abu Zeina | October 3, 2007 12:11 PM

What is amazing and continually intolerable is that the democrat party gets 75% or more of the Jewish vote and more than 75% of all elected Jews are democrats. Yet, the party in America which is home to anti-Semites and Israel haters is that same party!

No member of the GOP has or even COULD make a statement like that of Moran, Jesse Jackson, Pete Stark, Madelyn Albright, Hillary Clinton or the entire Black Caucus. It is a death sentence in the GOP to attack Jews. But in the democrat party they glorify people who write songs accusing Jews of 'running the world' or refer to NY as Hymietown or suggest that 9/11 was executed by the Mossad and US support for Israel is the reason for islamic terrorism.

And in reading these comments, its even more obvious that the people who really are anti-Israel and hate Jews are not those scary christians but rather the democrat grassroots. No conservative website has posts attacking AIPAC, Israel or Jews as a race yet you can go to any of the popular liberal hangouts and find vile anti-semite comments all over the place. And yet the San Fernando Valley and the upper East side will vote lockstep for whomever has a 'D' after their name without question. And the Democrat party will continue to ask for and accept hundreds of millions of American Jews and still celebrate and support democrats who despise Jews so such that they cannot even avoid making their views public.

Posted by: bpjam | October 3, 2007 05:11 PM

For all of you liberals who think that AIPAC is evil, I have a question for you.

How do you feel about MALDEF, MECHA or LaRaza? These groups openly operate in the US representing the interests of other countries and citizens of foreign countries. They advocate violating existing US laws and lobby to change US laws to allow foreign citizens from every country south of the US border to have the same rights as US citizens.

We spend more money supporting, subsidizing and encarcerating citizens of these hispanic countries than we have spend on Iraq - many times over. And those groups continually call America a racist nation and evil for refusing to acquiesce to their demands.

We've had rallies in the streets of US cities, sponsored by these groups (and funded by George Soros in part), which demanded that the US not only relinquish sovereignty but also immediately grant access to all of our public institution and social programs to all foreigners. MALDEF, MECHA and La Raza, at a minimum, have openly associated themselves with people who demand the US return the Western States to Mexico which they claim is actually part of the empire of 'Aztlan' (which doesn't include any white people). They demand that we stop preventing non-US citizens from entering the US and that we educate, provide health care and housing (for free, btw) for any person of hispanic heritage without regard to their nation of citizenship.

These groups also have lobbied numerous states to gain in-state tuition to public universities for foreign nationals. They have lobbied for, and acquired in places like California, the right for non-Americans to obtain the lowest tuition rates at UCLA (without question as to whether they were in the country legally with or without a student visa) while a US citizen who is a resident of Colorado has to pay nearly five times that cost to attend UCLA. So foreign citizens have rights to publicly funded education in a position superior to that of the majority of American citizens. You don't see AIPAC asking for Israelis to get in-state tuition at UCLA or MIT, folks.

Please go ahead and explain how this is perfectly justifiable and better for the U.S. than American Jews (who are American citizens) supporting US policy to prevent Iran from completing their program to build nuclear weapons and continuing to provide support, training, troops and armaments in Iraq which are used specifically to kill American soldiers and Marines.

Posted by: bpjam | October 3, 2007 05:55 PM

I've got a suggestion Jim, tell AIPAC and the rest of the jewish lobbies (who don't exist and if they do, have no influence at all on our foreign policies)to kiss your American ass and take theirs to Israel since that seems to be their main concern. And send Pelosi and Reid along with them. and Lieberman,and Lantos, and Feinstein,and Abe Foxman and Alan Dershowitz and Chertoff and Elliot and Greenspan (but wait till he makes yet more money from his book where he tells us what he should have told us 20 years ago)and don't forget the new Attorney General (who sits poised to render all the "legal" help that IdiotBush needs), and however many more in Congress, who automatically vote for support of that poor, victimized, and oppressed leech of a state which hides its nuclear weapons while condemning Iran for trying to develop its own--and tell them to stay there until they can manage to think of America first! It's not severe punishment when you consider that all of them have automatic citizenship due to being jewish.

Posted by: Doubtom | October 4, 2007 01:20 PM

That is a good idea, when you report an activity report the participants . Also report those who refused to be identified and why.

Posted by: cjjoy | October 5, 2007 04:23 AM

Let's wait and see who still loves aipac when American boys are dying on the ground in Iran at the behest of israel and it's fifth columnmists within the US.

Also there is much guilt to be shared among the greedy corporate b*st*rds making billions from the wars and also the politicians who suck at their teat trading lives for their sorry political careers.

Shame on you ALL!!!

Posted by: Angus | October 8, 2007 03:17 PM

Anti-Semitism and ignorance are still alive and well in our country. 12 million Jews in a world of billions and yet they wield all the influence? When will you people who accept this myth wake up and start thinking for yourselves? Israel is the only ally we have in the Middle East. During the first Gulf war Poppy Bush ordered them not to retaliate when they were ruthlessly attacked and they complied. They are not the ones who play footsies with all the corporations and oil barons. They did not write the PNAC which is why we are fighting now. Try reading it and you will know why we were led down the path to disaster we are on. Put the blame where it really belongs.On the Bush administration.

Posted by: LadyX | October 8, 2007 04:36 PM

Say What...........

"They are not the ones who play footsies with all the corporations and oil barons."

so there are no JewishAmericans in corporate America??????????

Posted by: Boutros Boutros Ghali | October 8, 2007 06:20 PM

A cople of points in response to some of the allegations:
AIPAC does not contribute any money to any candidate. It is precluded by law from doing so. Members, like all Americans to contribute to candidates of their choice who are amenable to their views.
Secondly, the Iraq war is a disaster for Israel and the whole Middle East. Our action removed a natural buffer against the nuts in Iran and put Israel in more jeopardy then it ever was.

Think before posting

Posted by: Jon L., San Francisco. | October 8, 2007 06:26 PM

I ask those who object to Mr. Moran challenging of AIPAC powerful role in Americas' foreign policy. Does anyone remember, Sen. Percy.'s fate. After his failure to tow AIPAC's line. Only in America , having an adverse view of Israeli policy can one be demonize and labeled an anti semite. There
are heated discusssions in Israel on government policy but not America. What is the fear my Jewish brothers. If you are on the right side of history. Allow all to qustion your policies. You have more than adequate representatives to carry your arguments.George Dyer

Posted by: george dyer | October 8, 2007 07:27 PM

Re reading the original article it becomes very apparent that this is just a simple hatchet piece masquerading as journalism. First of all the "anonymous" sources who are too cowardly to give their names. Why should we believe they are constituents of Rep. Moran. Also the implication in the story is clear that Rep. Moran has done something wrong and needs to apologize.

It seems that aipac has forgotten that this is America and Free Speech is a fundamental right.

Also Rep. Moran seems to be critical of aipac and I don't see anywhere in this story where he states Jewish American's were single mindedly pushing for a the war. In fact a true journalist would have supplied some background on Tikkun to whom the original interview was given.

aipac is a defacto agency for a foreign government and as such needs to closely monitored by our "free press".

Posted by: Angus | October 9, 2007 12:43 PM

AIPAC fired Rosen and Weissman (who spied against the U.S.) in April but is paying for their defense because of provisions in its bylaws. AIPAC had no comment, nor did lawyers for Weissman.

Hmmmm......it's waddling and quacking and probably tasted good with orange sauce!!

Posted by: 007 | October 9, 2007 09:02 PM

How can people deny the obvious. After all Lieberman is a living example of this group. One fails to mention the word
Zionism, and it is this branch of the Israili people who are the richest and powerful people who have the adaucity to believe that they are the chosen people.
On Bill Moyers, Rabbi Lerner said it best about the Christian Zionists, another bunch to ignore.

Posted by: HelenUU | October 10, 2007 11:09 AM

Where to begin...

1. Almost all of the neocons who pushed for the war with Iraq are Jews and are closely associated with AIPAC and with the "thinktanks" it supports.

2. When Bush began blustering about the "military option", a Congressional resolution was prepared which would require Bush to obtain Congressional approval before engaging in an act of war with Iran. AIPAC lobbying killed that resolution.

3. By virtue of AIPAC lobbying, the State of Israel receives FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in US aid every year (this sum is greater than the aid to all the Moslem countries combined)

4. On a more mundane but telling note, AIPAC lobbying was able to force a Minneapolis university to cancel an invitation to Desmond Tutu (a Nobel laureate) to speak on the grounds that he had previouly expressed views critical of Israel.

5. AIPAC and its attack thug Dershowitz were able to block the granting of tenure by DePaul University to Prof. Finkelstein, a highly respected sholar whose writings are extremelt ctiical of Israel and AIPAC.

And the list goes on and on...

Posted by: chet | October 11, 2007 01:36 PM

Vanity Fair !!! 50%.....if you want to know how Americans will fair under a zionist government look at how they treat the Palestinians.

Posted by: Auntie Semite | October 14, 2007 03:53 PM

Why is it all right to question the President of the United States about his drive to go to war with Iraq, and it is not all right to question's AIPAC's push for was in Iraq. (Check out AIPAC's website; it is all about pushing war with Iran)

Posted by: Sam | November 3, 2007 08:36 PM

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