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Bill Clinton's Secret Pen Pal

Maybe there's hope for the Middle East after all. If former president Bill Clinton and the man who led the impeachment case against him can make peace, why not the Israelis and the Palestinians?


Jim Rogan during the Clinton impeachment trial before the Senate. (AP file photo)

In one of the more startling revelations of strange Washington bedfellows, we've learned that Clinton and former Rep. James Rogan (R-Calif.), one of the 13 House managers who prosecuted the impeachment case against Clinton before the U.S. Senate, have been secret pen pals since 2001. Though perhaps more pen than pal.

Over the years, Rogan, now a judge on the California Superior Court, has sent photos he personally took of Clinton, flowers, rare campaign buttons -- even impeachment memorabilia intended for the Clinton presidential library in Arkansas -- to the 42nd president. Each time, sources familiar with the relationship say, the impeached has sent the impeacher a thank-you note.

It's almost as if Rogan has been slowly apologizing over the past decade for his role in impeaching Clinton, a role that cost Rogan his reelection defeat in 2000 ... and could well cost him a lifetime appointment to the federal bench.

More than ink, more than forgiveness, what Rogan needs now is his pen pal's blessing so that his nomination to the U.S. District Court in California can move forward. Until then, standing between Rogan and the federal bench is Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.). Other notable Democrats, including Willie Brown (the influential former mayor of San Francisco and speaker of the state Assembly) and a handful of current House California Democrats have endorsed Rogan's judicial nomination.

But Boxer remains steadfastly opposed and is using her home-state privilege to block the nomination. She declines to say whether her distaste for the impeachment crusade against Clinton has anything to with her opposition. Instead, her spokeswoman, Natalie Ravitz, tells The Sleuth that it's about Rogan's anti-liberal record on the environment, gun rights and labor.

"Further, he was rated 100 percent by the American Conservative Union, and in a moderate state like California, that is completely out of synch," Ravitz says.

Rogan backers say Boxer is reneging on her commitment to the Parsky Commission, California's bipartisan judicial selection panel. As Jason Roe, a former top aide to Rogan, puts it, "Boxer's proxies unanimously approved Judge Rogan, he has the highest possible ABA rating, and she's breaking her word because he isn't liberal enough?"

Roe and others say Rogan's relationship with Clinton began in January 2001 when Rogan, a collector and amateur photographer, snapped some photos at George W. Bush's inauguration of Clinton staring up at the Capitol building for one last look as leader of the free world. Rogan sent the photos to the potential future First Husband with a note that, according to one source who saw it, made a self-deprecating reference to his abilities as a photographer being no better than his abilities as an impeachment prosecutor. Clinton sent Rogan a handwritten thank you.

Some time later, when he was head of the U.S. Patent Office, Rogan would send buttons from his political collection to Clinton. And later, after reading that Clinton was collecting artifacts for his library in Little Rock, Rogan sent a package of impeachment memorabilia that included passes to Ken Starr's testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. Rogan wrote a note to Clinton explaining that he was sending the material for no other reason than historical value to be used in the Clinton library.

When Clinton underwent heart bypass surgery, Rogan sent Clinton flowers along with a copy of his book "Rough Edges," which touches on the impeachment saga. He joked in his note, "I hope this doesn't give your cardiologist angst." Clinton sent a form letter thank you back to Rogan, an evangelical Christian, with a personalized notation suggesting that Rogan needed to "pray" for his politics.

The last correspondence Rogan had with Clinton was earlier this year.

Lanny Davis, former special counsel to President Clinton, tells us he helped facilitate the friendly correspondence between Rogan and Clinton. Davis was a "Green Room" buddy of Rogan's from the cable TV circuit. He recalls that in one of his rare telephone chats with Clinton, sometime in 2005, the former president said to him, "Your friend Jim Rogan reached out to me."

Davis asked Clinton, "What did you do?" He remembers Clinton replying, "I reached back out to him."

Davis says Rogan also called him to say he and Clinton had been "exchanging notes." Rogan also mentioned his federal judicial nomination and worried that the Clintons would try to block it. Davis reminded Rogan of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (N.Y.) professional friendship with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), another former House impeachment manager.

"People don't know Hillary. She forgives easily. ... The '90s are behind them and they don't want to retread the past," Davis said. "They really want to look forward, not back."

Clinton, through a spokesman at the Clinton Foundation, had no comment. Rogan declined to discuss his personal correspondence with Clinton but said they've agreed to let bygones be bygones.

"We're both retired political warriors," Rogan said. "Boxers, when the fight is over, are often the first to embrace in the ring and congratulate each other."

By Mary Ann Akers  |  November 29, 2007; 1:00 AM ET
 
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So I am not quite sure that I understand what is going on. In any way how would this affect Hilary's election? This does not really have anything to do with the upcoming election does it? I think that it is good for Bill Clinton and James Rogan to become friends... In a way. If bridges have been built and broken it is always a good idea to try to mend them. Never mind I get this now. It effects the nomination for the U.S. District Court in California.

Posted by: Justice Kelley | November 29, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

So I rhink that I understand what this article is talking about. I think. So in order for James Rogan to get the nomination for the U.S. District Court in California he would have to have almost "get consent" from Bill Clinton. So does any of this coincide with Hilary's campaign. I am almost positive it doesn't but I am just asking.

Posted by: Justice Kelley | November 29, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe that Bill Clinton can actually be friends with James Rogan. After Rogan led the impeachment case against Bill Clinton, why would they be friends now? The only thing that James Rogan is doing is kissing up to Clinton.The fact that Clinton accepts the appoligies and remains friend with him is even worst. The only thing that James Rogan can do know is keep trying to find a space in politics.

Posted by: jrobles | November 29, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

No evidence that they are friends--they are both professionals acting like professionals. And, I don't think Sen. Boxer takes orders from the Clintons or anyone else. If Rogan thinks so, he is too foolish to be on the federal bench, just as foolish as someone who thinks Clinton committed an impeachable offense.

Posted by: Sam | November 29, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

That impeachment was a fishing expedition by fundamentalist hypocrites who lied to the public to force the FAILED proceedings through. Those republican hypcorites have all been discredited as political scum.

NONE OF THEM SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SERVE THE GOVERNMENT IN ANY CAPACITY.

IMPEACH ROGAN FROM THE BENCH!

Posted by: JBE | November 29, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Hillary forgives easily. Yes, people know that. She's still married after all that's gone on going back to Arkansas. She can forgive anything if it helps further her ambition.

For that reason, given the DLC leanings she still holds, I'd bet that after the CA primary, she says something positive about Rogan's appointment. That would hurt her in the primary, but could conceivably help in the general. Or so I read it.

Posted by: Marco Panella | November 29, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

good if Rogan admitted that he was part of a concerted effort to ram through the kind of game plan


while Clinton was in office that they are putting through with the little nipper and bedwetter George W. in office now....

THAT PNAC/AEI/JINSA/AIPAC/UCP

was pushing Clinton to let them lead him.


That the "terrorists attack," was part and parcel of their game plan, as was the false attack on


George H.W. Bush, by whiskey smugglers....[ which was laid at Saddam Husseins' doorstep ] by opportunists like Rogan....


Kenneth Star is George W.'s lawyer, as well as Blackwater's lawyer....

and Michael Chertoff, otherwise known as the "Green Quest," justice obstructor and Whitewater prosecutor has been given charge of the DHS budget and direction, even though he is a lawyer and knows NOTHING ABOUT SECURITY, OR IMMIGRATION/INS...


what he does know about is obscurring visibility for dishonest activities...


as Rogan does. I understand that Rogan and Jeffery Gannon were best friends in the closet....Trent Lott and George W. Bush are both cheerleaders.....are they both light in the loafers ????


please....you wanna play witht hetruth, prepare to lose your standing.


.

Posted by: I personally think it would be | November 29, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I know that it is hard for some to plug into their "stereotype machines" that someone can be an articulate, principled conservative, and yet still be polite, engaging and establish a rapport with their political adversaries.

Jim Rogan is such a person. I've known him to be a man of true conservative beliefs, and also close friends with many a liberal (all of whom will say that they really like Jim, but admit he is to the right of Attila the Hun).

None of which addresses the real travesty here, which is that Barbara Boxer is using a lame Senate rule to make sure only liberal purists are seated on the federal bench in California.

Jon Fleischman
Vice Chairman, South
California Republican Party

Posted by: Jon Fleischman | November 29, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

you think Jeff Gannon was wetting George W's cigar ????


don't you think that we should spread that around as well as the fact that


Larry Craig was tap dancingin restrooms while implying Bill Clinton was of low character for having relations with someone that he knew...


or that Newt the Grinch, who was schtupping someone else's wife in CONGRESS while his wife was sickabed....and spouting off loudly about morality,


does one take gawd users and morality users seriously when it's something that only applies to the

other guy "as a tactic," that


Newt Gingrich, Limp Rushing Bought, Tom Dealaide, the dickcheenie, Abramoff, Trent you look good to meLOTT, Karl sonof deathKampe builders Roverer and scrotummondious I tell lies on command LIBBY....


do as a normal part of business ???


should these people or those of their ilk be taken seriously,

like Marco Panella


or should we just understand that _ILLEGAL_ and IMMORAL is what these people do....and the reward for it is to become the


presidents' counsel or director of $BILLIONS$


I wonder how much the bushfamily is making off of AFGHANI HEROIN THIS YEAR ???

Marco Panella , how about growing some honesty cells...you wanna play,


little gomer?

Posted by: so do | November 29, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

what are the MEN AND WOMEN IN IRAQ DYING AND LOSING BODY PARTS FOR??????

OIL and drug trafficking...

AND !!!,

are the United States Soldiers getting a cut, of


_t_h_a_t_

____________________ M O N E Y ? _____________________no

no, they are getting their legs blown off, getting medals of honor and waiting two years to be declared disabled as they lose homes that they can't make mortgage payments on....


and the others that are not disabled are losing _their_ homes, because their jobs have been given to someone else after 4 re ups and all the good jobs are being done by people in other countries...

could theidckcheney and george W., sheets for brains bushwah...be drug trafficking as part of their invasion of the middle east... ???

READ THIS:

Just as the Iran-Contra scandal evolved to include drug smuggling, the Iraq War also is closely related to drug smuggling. While the Bush regime has so far managed to keep the drug smuggling aspects of the war from reaching the media, evidence is beginning to emerge. The evidence comes largely from a former FBI translator turned whistle-blower, Sibel Edmonds. Hired to translate intercepted messages soon after 9/11 this Turkish lady first blew the whistle on the FBI for dragging its feet. She has state emphatically that she has seen documents that prove the Bush administration was fully aware of the terrorist attack before 9/11. While ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN ASHCROFT, has imposed a gag order on her, this courageous lady has only been able to speak in generalized terms. However, she has repeatedly stated that when viewed as an international drug smuggling operation the picture becomes clear.

Sibel Edmonds has provided a huge clue in her generalized statements, a clue that points directly at the BUSH FAMILY and DICK CHENEY. Haliburton the oil services company formerly headed by CHENEY has a long history of involvement in drug smuggling and gunrunning especially through its Brown and Root subsidiary. Brown and Root also has a long history of providing cover for CIA agents. In the late 1970s Brown and Root was implicated in drug smuggling and gunrunning from oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico built by Brown and Root and using ships owned by Brown and Root. In the 1990s Brown and Root was implicated in smuggling heroin to Europe through Russia. The heroin originated in Laos.

The Russian incident surfaced in 1995 after thieves stole sacks of heroin concealed as sugar from a rail container leased by Alfa Echo. Authorities were alerted to the problem after residents of Khabarovsk, a Siberian city became intoxicated from consuming the heroin. Alfa Echo is part of the Russian Alfa group of companies controlled by Mikhail Fridman and Pyotr Aven. The FSB, the Russian equivalent of the FBI firmly proved a solid link between Alfa Tyumen and drug smuggling. The drug smuggling route was further exposed after the Ministry of Internal Affairs raided Alfa Eko buildings and found drugs and other compromising documentation. Under Cheney's leadership of Haliburton, Brown and Root received a taxpayer insured loan through the Export-Import Bank of $292 million dollars for Brown and Root to refurbish a Siberian oil field owned by Alfa Tyumen. The Alfa Bank is also implicated in money laundering for the Colombian cocaine cartels.

THERE IS $80 BILLION IN UNRECORDED PROFITS IN THE FIRST STEP OF AFGHANI OPIUM COLLECTION, refinement...three steps later it could be worth $400 BILLION, in unrecorded profits...

search on GARY WEBB, GEORGE H.W. BUSH, cocaine, Letter of Understanding


look at the part where the DoJ gave the CIA a letter of understanding to drug traffick without recording profits or being criminally responsible for such activities....they ferried cocaine into the U.S. using military transports...

check it out...it's still going on.


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Posted by: let's be men about this... | November 29, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Jon Fleischman:

Boxer is well within her rights to hold this nomination. As a Californian, I completely agree that Jim Rogan should not get a lifetime appointment as a US District Judge.

"...he is to the right of Attila the Hun..." We don't need extremists to sit as judges, in California or anywhere else. We need moderates from both sides of the political spectrum. I completely support Boxer in this matter.

Posted by: MonaL | November 29, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

course of action if


for Rogan to light Clintons seegar...

with his special lighter.


.

Posted by: I think the best | November 29, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Jim Rogan is a great judge with a reputation for being smart and fair.He was a 1st rate professional prosecutor, politician and judge.His personal admiration for aspects of President Clinton's career or life or personality speak to his sense of fairness, lack of bias and sense of professional balance. I wish more professionals on both sides of the isle were more like these two on personal matters such as these.

Posted by: Califdemocrat | November 29, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

serves to get what he served....


he's a pimp for bushCO und CRONYs....


ditch him....hard.


.
Michael Chertoff, Kenneth Starr....they serve the beast.

.


put them in the pen.

.

Posted by: shivaurazz | November 29, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Until he publicly renounces the impeachment and works to undo the damage the Republicans have done to the world, he can go live in a Katrina trailer for all I care. No way should he go near a Judges bench.

Posted by: thebob.bob | November 29, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

This just goes to show that the politics of personal destruction do not pay. Mr. Rogan may yet be confirmed, but it should not surprise anyone that his past poor judgment is being considered here. Judges (and all officers of the court) must show good judgment. And an appointment to the federal judiciary is a lifetime position. So it may take more than a few letters of contrition to convince Sen. Boxer that Mr. Rogan understands the honor and responsibility of serving as an Article III judge.

Posted by: JD | November 29, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

As a former House manager during the bogus impeachment proceedings, right wing rogan needs to be hounded until his last days on earth. There is a special place in Hades reserved for these right wing hypocrites. Boxer, continue to block this stupid nomination til the very end.

Posted by: rnorwood | November 29, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Who cares whether they are friends or whether Clinton got impeached or not? We should concentrate on what Bill Clinton really is, a manipulative liar; and preventing the "legacy" he wants to propogate with the election of his wife. Why should the voters be pawns for the elite, the neo-elite and their "establishments"? Enough of this! Get lost Bill Clinton. You are not the folk hero you think you are!

Posted by: ttj | November 29, 2007 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Well, I think it's admirable that Bill Clinton would be gracious to Jim Rogan. But Jim Rogan has already proven that he doesn't have the temperment to be a good judge.
Sorry, I was a Republican until the impeachment. If someone blogging here can't see that being the leader, in a travesty of justice, against a twice-elected POTUS, is a no-brainer for LOSING a chance at being a federal judge...
well, have another glass of kool-aid.

Clinton already gave Jim Rogan his reward -- forgiveness for undermining our Constitution in 1998.

Posted by: Jan | November 29, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

al ittle pixie whines:

ttj emotes cringingly:
Get lost Bill Clinton. You are not the folk hero you think you are!

LORD SHIVA, opines:

actually he is, he just got some bad press bya propaganda machine that someone stole from the Nazis....

Goebbels and Goerring...ministers of propaganda...the CIA and George H.W., thedickCHEENIE, Donald Bumsfeld....and duh chews embraced

propaganda without basis as the order of the day...


dispute me. I dare you.


pumpkin.


.

Posted by: shivaurazz | November 29, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

ttj, wants to wet bills seegar.

Posted by: shivaurazz | November 29, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Senator Boxer: Get LOST! Who the heck gives you "Senatorial" Courtesy to block a Californian to be on a federal bench?
Geez...these politicians have hell of nerve.
James Rogan has a temperament to be a good federal Judge. While Boxer has lost her temperament on anything...She disgusts me.
It is time for Boxer to pack her bags in 2010 and go back to Marin County!

Posted by: Cyncial Government | November 30, 2007 12:06 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe that Bill Clinton can actually be friends with James Rogan. After Rogan led the impeachment case against Bill Clinton, why would they be friends now? The only thing that James Rogan is doing is kissing up to Clinton.The fact that Clinton accepts the apologies and remains friend with him is even worst. The only thing that James Rogan can do know is keep trying to find a space in politics.

Posted by: Terrance | November 30, 2007 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I think it's wrong to see even after Clinton's problems in the White House, him come out and say he was against the war in Iraq: http://enewsreference.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/bill-clinton-and-the-credibility-factor/

Posted by: nquotes | November 30, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

This guy is a punk that Bill Clinton is being nice to...He has no chance of going anywhere on the Federal Bench. Although it would have been better for everyone involved if Bill Clinton had resigned the presidency (because he lied about something to a federal court, and he was the Chief Executive at the time he did it...)assuring Al Gore to be appointed and then reelected in 2000, this fellow lost his seat over the waste of time this 'impeachment' imposed upon the US for political purposes only. I am glad that this has been uncovered, but it matters less than a twit to me what happens to this punk. Thank You...

Posted by: Daniel Wargo | November 30, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Daniel Wargo, exactly. I lost a bunch of cash betting that Bill Clinton would take the fifth rather than lie to a grand jury. If he had taken the fifth, it would have been all over, except for a media storm. I couldn't BeliEve he didn't take the fifth, and i was so sure, I had bet a lot of cash on it....that really smarted.

Having made that mistake, he [Clinton] should have resigned, and Al Gore would be finishing up his second term today, and this nation and the world would have been better off.

And I'm with Daniel on the Rogan thing, too. Rogan has been mending fences in anticipation of this very day, and Clinton knows whats up, he's just being professional, as a previous poster said. Does the authors of this news bitlet really think they're friends? No. It just makes a better headline.

If Rogan is to the right of Atilla the Hun, we don't need him. I'm not a super Boxer fan, but on this one, you go girl. Take a turn at being the heavy in a good cause; keeping a right wing hand licking sycophant off the federal bench. He's a punk.

Posted by: otter357 | November 30, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I say with some sarcasm that it's just peachy that Bill Clinton has forgiven James Rogan, but Bill Clinton wasn't the only casualty in that impeachment. The American people lost when Republicans hijacked our government for those two years and sucked all of the oxygen out of our air waves as well.

These politicians act as if the country belongs to them and we the people are insignificant bystanders -- if they think of us at all.

We bear some responsibility, too, because we elect them. That's got to stop. We have to get involved, find new candidates or run ourselves, and get rid of this corrupt machine.

Posted by: Marjorie Glasten | December 1, 2007 4:44 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, Mr. Rogan, Bill knows a blow job when he sees one.

Posted by: wolfram1 | December 4, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Former President Bill Clinton has grown tremendously since he has left office. Though I felt he was a good President-sex aside, but again he wasn't voted as husband of the US- he has ascended to being an International figure without the burden of being an active World/Politcal figure. If Hillary gets elected he will be a fine First Man!!

Posted by: California Girl | December 5, 2007 2:05 AM | Report abuse

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