It's sad that Rep. Kucinich has to try to browbeat his fellow Reps into doing their jobs.

Kucinich is pandering. Democratic leadership is correct, impeachment is a silly waste of time and the country has more pressing needs -- especially considering the week's woeful economic news. Didn't anyone learn anything from the Clinton Impeachment nonsense?

Unfortunately Joe, in politics the learning curve only applies after a candidate loses or there is overwhelming public response such as there was with the illegal alien amnesty attempt.

Well, it probably is a waste of time at this point, but it doesn't make it less ethical, legal and moral for Congress to actually hold the Vice President accountable for his (probably illegal, possibly treasonous) actions.

Which makes it all the sadder that he'll get off scot-free.

And just underscores that America likes a bully, but recoils from someone having consensual sex with an adult.

No wonder the world looks at us with horrified disbelief.

People this is not just about the lawless behavior of this administration. Its' about whether we let politicians get a pass on breaking the law. If there is no action we will see it again by the next administration and will embolden worse behavior if that is possible.

Not at all beene. It's about Kucinich wanting to be loved by the well-intentioned but poorly informed who believe impeachment to be a proper remedy.

Joe, I am not sure I read you correctly because it appears you are comparing the impeachment of Clinton versus the idea of impeaching Bush (or anyone else in his cabal), though you may be referring to the effect of an impeachment on the country.

I think that the second point matters little because, while Clinton did lie, his behavior was little more than unseemly; Bush's (and the direct result of those actions) are killing people every day (I mean literally, btw, not in some conceptual, argument-based manner).

Never mind the lies and manipulations that got us there in the first place.

Actually, you could just as easily reach the conclusion that what this country needs is an impeachment, so that we can restore the necessary tensions that exist between the balances of our government; so that we can ensure that future Presidents will understand that there is a price to be paid for dragging this country into wars of choice, not necessity; and perhaps most importantly, so that we can bring our soldiers home, so that that they can not only protect our own lands, but so that we can do what we can to help them recover from the trauma (both mental and physical) of a war in which they had to fight against any enemy that was clearly defined.

Like Vietnam, in which our soldiers often found themselves committing terrible atrocities, because their enemy looked just like anyone else, and could easily vanish as quickly as they appeared.

Impeach. All of the presidential contenders in this past and upcoming elections have said that had they been told the truth at the time, they would not have voted to go to war against Iraq. The truth has been on the table for a long time and the deaths (murders, really, by this corrupt administration, for pecuniary gain, which qualifies for first degree murder) are now nearly 4000 US soldiers, ? mercenaries, and a million Iraqis. If the lies told on behalf of Haliburton et al, and the liars don't qualify for both impeachment as well as war crimes, then we have truly entered the theatre of the absurd. Yes, the Clinton sex impeachment was a waste of time, perpetrated by the same corrupt republicans that now want a free pass for the worst acts of treason imaginable. Impeach and bring the US into the International Court of Justice for war crimes. Perhaps that will help deliver the justice that post 911 US inspired terrorists seek and help deliver a more civilized world.

I hope and pray that Rep. Dennis Kucinich really means it when he says we ain't seen nothing yet.

Seems like old times - with enabling resolutions duly enacted, the military forces in place and the war drums beating again. Only this time the target is Iran.

The last war of preemption hasn't gone so well and if Dennis Kucinich can remind the nation of the circumstances that led to our debacle in Iraq, maybe we can avoid a tragic repeat of history.

I understand the stance of Democratic party leaders and why they would so desperately wish Mr. Kucinich would shut up. Unable to explain their own culpability in the rush to war in Iraq or offer credible rationales for new authorization to undertake actions against Iran, their best course is to attempt to stifle such foes.

When Mr. Kucinich takes his case to the grassroots, he is going to find an electorate eager to listen and poised to bring forth change. The true will of the people has been thwarted far too long.

No guts. The impeached Clinton for virtually nothing, yet the House is so afraid of Cheney they won't even seriously consider trying him for his crimes. Sickening...and shame on the gutless Dems.

Joe,

It is a very low form of political discussion to speculate on the psychological motivations of the players. You present no facts to support your claims. I suppose that's the beauty of unfettered speculation about underlying psychology -- you can keep everything in the realm of pure, unprovable opinion.

If we are interested in re-establishing and continuing the system of government that was instituted by the Founders, codified in the Constitution, and ratified by the people then impeachment hearings are a necessity.

It's a necessity because the ship is off course. We have too much power concentrated in the Executive Branch, promoting a culture of lawlessness and corruption in the government overall. We are all familiar with the laundry list.

If this distortion of our system of government is not righted, it will fester and continue if another Party takes the helm in 2009.

Clinton's impeachment was an abuse of government by Congress. This one would be the EXACT opposite -- a restoration of the government as designed by Congress.

The truth? They were told the truth, there were indications that Saddam was reconstituting (and indeed possesed) WMD's. There was also intel that said the opposite. If there were reports that said he did have them then Bush, et al did not lie. They relied on intel reports that were incorrect, but that is not lying. I love the revisionism here, just to pander to the party base. The fact is that the reports were available for review prior to the vote, and they either did not read them, or they read them and agreed.

The Democratic leadership does not want this resolution to come to the floor because the facts would blow up their carefully constructed (and thus far successful) myth that Bush lied to them and baited them into war. This implosion would drive some number of independent voters back towards the Republican side and jepoardize their electoral success.

The central debate over the Iraq issue was framed perfectly by Kerry in 2004. He said "just because Saddam might hit us in 10 years is not a reason to go to war now." That risk is what the President is paid to evaluate, and he made the decision not to run the risk. That is the question all of us need to evaluate, because you or your loved ones could have been in that theoretical place, so which is more riskier to you?

If people look at that and decide the risk would have been acceptable then no problem. However, this debate is the most momentous in the last 30 years, so please use some intellectual honesty when debating its merits.

Impeach? Hell Yes!

Michael, you may be right; this makes forcing these criminals to face the laws that were violated; and if we are lucky see some deserving politicians removed from senate and congress.
preemption; is a violation of us laws.

If this administration is not guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors then I'm baffled about what further abuses the president and vice-president would need to commit to qualify. In the name of security--and even, laughably, "democracy"--we've let this team assume virtually dictatorial powers. It's the great elephant in the room that no one dares name now that suppressing terrorism overrides everything else. To heckle those who have the balls to pursue impeachment as "grandstanders" is the cheapest form of cynicism (either that or our whole political system is now so messed up that it's become impossible to distinguish anymore between reality and propaganda)

As to whether our understanding of the terror phenomenon is adequate, much less our strategy to combat it,--that's another matter

I am saddened and frightened by what the current administration has been able to get away with: an unprecedented power grab which has rebalanced the supposed equal powers between judicial, legislative, and executive, toward an imperial presidency. I am old enough to remember, and I do remember, the difference between another Republican power grab which did not succeed (when Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew resigned in shame once their crooked deeds came to light) and now, when the powerful executive branch operates above the law and without shame. God help all of us ordinary citizens!

While the merits or demerits of impeachment are debated, I wish to pose a question. If Cheney was impeached, which would be the equivalent of a criminal indictment or information, in the House, he would have a trial in the Senate.
Assuming he was convicted on a charge, woundn't President Bush have the right to pick a new Vice President? Or would the Secretary of State assume the office? Do we have any idea what might happen assuming all the above assumptions happen?

David, Nixon picked a new vice president when Agnew resigned.
Guilford, if the world looks on us with such horrified disbelief, why do so many want to live in our flawed society. It could be that they live where government is just as, or even more flawed than it is here. Thanks to freedon of the press and speech we have this tendancy to air our conflicting opinions and dirty laundry a lot. The "world" is very interested in and keeps track of what goes on here. Unfortunately most of our citizens have little concern about what goes on in the rest of the world as long as they are not directly impacted such as with oil prices.

Kucinich is right to press on with impeachment. But politicians being politicians will never vote to impeach. They lack the courage.

When will the democratic party, the media take Kucinich seriously? He is the only candidate in either party who gives straight answers to important questions rather than weasal-worded equivocations. What's wrong with a moral health care system that all civilized countries besides us already have? What's wrong with punishing high office holders for lying about the necessity for war? What's wrong with reversing the off-shoring of American jobs? What's wrong in promising diplomacy rather than brinksmanship in foreign affairs? What's wrong about giving straight, understandable answers to important questions? Kucinich has guts, but more importantly he has a clear vision for America.

Beene,

I agree that they went too far with some of the things they have done. If our system cannot handle terrorismm with the tools we have in our bag then the system is broken.

That being said, since the President can issue Executive Orders, which basically make laws (at least in the short term), nothing he did technically is a crime. His decisions can be litigated and overturned (as many rightly have been), but due to ex post facto they cannot be retroactively be made crimes. Therefore, there is nothing to impeach them about. Politically, however, it is radioactive, and is fair game for debate.

People have attempted to compare this to Clinton, and there is no comparison. Clinton actually broke a law, and while I think that whole situation was politically motivated and should have never occurred, his impeachment was warranted and he should have resigned. People can repeat it from now until doomsday, but the sad fact is Bush didn't lie.

Until people on both the right and left step back from blind and reflexive hatred no progress will ever occur.

There are a lot of democrats out there that will be very surprised come election time. Pelosi, Feinstein, Hoyer; Start looking for those post political, cushy jobs you've been looking forward to all of these years. You'll be needing them sooner than you think.
Funny, you would have thought all of this would have been the cherry on Nancys political career. Now, she's toast. Feinstein? Burnt toast.

The impeachment process is what is needed. The goal of the initiation of hearings is the restoration of balance.

Nothing else matters.

The following are not goals of the process: removal from office, conviction ob certain charges, impeachment, more power to Democrats, certification of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Initiating the process when it is needed and exploring the evidence in hearings sends a message to all the future occupants of the Executive Branch that there are limits, laws apply, and the hammer will come down if the balance of powers is disrupted.

Congress, also, clearly needs to re-assert itself after nearly a decade of invisibility.

These are very real needs of our government right now, only accomplished by Congress withdrawing war funding, or by initiating impeachment against Bush or Cheney.

Michael: "They relied on intel reports that were incorrect, but that is not lying. I love the revisionism here, just to pander to the party base."

The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife. The only revisionism involved is in dragging the narrative back into reality and away from this "honest mistake" nonsense.

bumper sticker: when clinton lied nobody died
Michael:
Bush didn't lie? Name one topic on which he has not shaded the truth. If attacking Iraq and killing half a million people when it was Afghanistan that harbored bin Laden isn't enough for you, what would be? Catching him having a little afternoon delight? You are pathetic, sir.

I agree with beene politicians should not be allowed to break the law.I hope Kucinich gets somewhere with this and cheney is impeached he really deserves it.

Pelosi and the others are betraying the constitution. Regardless of the POLITICAL aspects, they have a duty to go after these criminals. The people that put the Democrats in power are now realizing that many of people in both parties (but not all in either one) are simply puppets of the system. We need public financing of elections and a way to get rid of this permanent congress. Impeachment of Cheney and Bush should have happened a LONG TIME AGO.

"...People have attempted to compare this to Clinton, and there is no comparison. Clinton actually broke a law, and while I think that whole situation was politically motivated and should have never occurred, his impeachment was warranted and he should have resigned..."

Oh cut the crap. Clinton lied about an extramarital affair. That is not "high crimes and misdemeanors" and those sorts of lies are ROUTINELY ignored as perjury by the courts. Cheney has used ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING, TORTURE, SECRET RENDITION just to name the first three to come to mind. If Cheney isn't begging for impeachment, we should THROW THE RULE out.

IMPEACH! NOW! What is it about the Checks and balances structered into the US Constitution, don't you understand? The straw issues, ridiculous comparisons and retreat into philosophical and psychological motivations is absurd and so typical of a state of massive denial.

The Constitution absolutely forbids a number of illegal and unconstitutional actions taken by this administration, to wit: suspending the writ of habeas corpus, denying the first amendment rights of assembly and freedom of speech; issuing secretive 'signing statements' declaring that 'he' does not have to obey the law that he just signed [opening first class mail without a warrant] unilaterally breaking international treaties as well as authorizing the torture of detainees, some to death, authorizing the practice of 'Rendition', sometimes going to the extreme of capturing a foreign national, in a foreign country WITHOUT ANY LEGAL PROCESS OR NOTIFICATION OF THAT COUNTRY; illegally spying on American citizens, in direct defiance of a 1978 law prohibiting such activities; AND I believe illegal, fraudulent and deliberate awarding of government contracts to friends, cronies and political donors without obeying Federal regulations mandating contract awards for government purchases - AND not even attempting enforcement of performance, services, financial accounting and oversight.

If that behavior does not construe "High crimes and Misdemeanors" how about appointing incompetents, thieves and fools to Directors of major Federal agencies, does Thomas Scully, Michael Brown, J. Steven Griles, Julie MacDonald, Lester Crawford, David Safavian, AND let's not forget Gonzo, the 'I don't recall, previous Attorney General, plus many many more, and illegally making political affiliation a factor in the hiring of US Prosecutors.

Any comparison using Bill Clinton's extra-marital affairs as a basis for impeachment and the extraordinary numbers of illegal and unconstitutional actions taken by the Bush Administration is disingenuous, and just idiotic.

I believe these men should be impeached and their actions be fully investigated by many, many Special Prosecutors for illegal acts and report directly to Congress and referred to a Grand Jury for possible indictment; so called executive privilege does not apply in criminal acts.

In current nationnal & internationnal environment I seen no more urgent need than a STRONG reaffirmation of the rule of law.
Impeaching Bush & Cheney for the legislative branch is a matter not only of moral duty but scarily enough of survival.

Still living in your impeach-Bush-and-Cheney fantasy world, you fringe leftist peaceniks? It'll never happen. And "Kookinich" has a zero chance of being President. Still, I get a laugh out of seeing you folks ramble about impeachment.

P.S. At least some of you face the fact Clinton lied. He's got his legacy: Monica.

Livelong,

In 1999, Bush said he would not get involved in nation building in office.

In 2004 or so, when it was clear no WMDs would be found, Bush said the reason for the Iraq War was "regime change."

So, there is a very clear lie.

Anyway, look, let's be grown-ups -- all Presidents lie all the time. Some of the lying is important and necessary as it projects strength to an antsy nation.

Lying is a job requirement of President of the US, so let's not claim that it is something extraordinary and terrible when done by one guy or another.

Doug,

I think that he actually had ample reason to go into Iraq, not because Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 (I don't believe that), but my reasons are based on facts that are public, but not widely disseminaated. My reasoning is too long to post now, but it is not because I thought Iraq would be an easy win. I spent 9 months there and I knew before we went it would not be easy.

I agree with the basic premises that people are posting in here. I am not sure about the legality or lack thereof of these acts because I don't have all the facts, but I agree we shouldn't be doing many of them. I think he has made many mistakes, and that he has gone too far with a lot of things.

That being said, the fact is that there is enough political and legal cover that impeachment is an impossibility. Even if by some miracle the charges were brought there would never be a conviction, and it would take time and energy away from what needs to be done. If we want changes we have to work together to get them, and screaming for impeachment and blanket disdain for any political views that are not in agreement with yours is not the way to get it.

I'm not accusing you of that, but you and I both know that there are people on both the right and the left that feel that anyone who does not agree with their brilliant geopolitical analyses is a complete moron. All this does is turn the other people off and obscure the fact that there are areas where people can work together.

Michael, thank you for making a case that doesn't involve resorting to livelongandinsult tactics. (I didn't think the phelps could afford internet access anymore.)

there is no comparing sex with treason. btw: in the case of clinton, tripp's conversations were illegally recorded, and yet they were legally introduced as testimony. the scales of justice are so skewed, you can hear Lady Liberty bawling her eyes out.

i just know that i will forever lose hope in the future or semblance of democracy if impeachment isn't even attempted, after crimes so numerous at this point that it could only be called War-Gate.

for some reason, some pollyanna people are content to let leaders wag the flag, as if it were a dog, and believe that somehow blind obedience is patriotic. Our Founding Fathers taught us better than that, warning us to be eternally vigilant, and wary of an unchecked beast. They were writing for our times, not theirs, knowing this draconian twist could indeed happen.

and lets face it, impeachment is an investigation. how are we supposed to know the truth without verifying? without regard for truth or justice, democracy will not survive this administration. And then what do we tell our Fathers? Or worse yet, our children...

Michael:

Kudos on your pointing out Saddam's intentions with WMDs. A report by the United Nations points out that Saddam had every intention of rebuilding his WMD programs. David Kaye, the same weapons inspector who said there were no stockpiles of WMDs, pointed out in his own words in an interview on Fox News Sunday (the network leftists hate) that Iraq was well on its way to becoming an information market on WMDs, and that any one of Saddam's henchman could have entered that market.

But alas, we're talking to the wrong crowd in these comments. So many are probably of the conspiracy theory mindset about Bush, Cheney, "Big Oil", Halliburton, etc. I wonder if any of them subscribe to that nut-job conspiracy theory that the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center were an "inside job."

Yes, I'm using a bit of labeling and names here. But you can't really have a serious, fact-based discussion with these leftists.

IMPEACH CHENEY FOR HIGH CRIMES CHENEY COMMITTED

Fortunately, Alberto Gonzales has resigned, along with Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Meirs and Rove. Their resignations are a good beginning, but inadequate to repair the damage done to our nation, Constitution, Bill of Rights and democracy. The Nixon White House collapsed quickly, when Congress began issuing subpoenas and holding hearings. Congress should not fear a backlash from impeachment. Democrats gained the Presidency when they impeached Nixon - Republicans gained the White House when they attempted to impeach Clinton.

Impeachment of Cheney and Bush is vital to restoration of the republic. The Bush administration apparently is operating an illegal politically motivated domestic spying program, in violation of the Fourth Amendment, and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. President Bush has written over 700 unconstitutional "signing statements."
The Iraq civil war continues, with no end in sight and Bush threatens to veto every bill Congress passes to limit spending for this disastrous military misadventure.

Dick Cheney knew invading Iraq would be a mistake, in 1994, and went on record, explaining why, in this televised CSPAN interview. On 8/27/00, Cheney defended not invading Iraq, on Meet the Press.
http://www. http://community.freespeech.org/dick_cheney_iraq_quagmire

Congress has been unable to accomplish anything significant, because Bush vetoes any meaningful laws passed by Congress. The minimum wage increase passed but was so minimal and obviously inadequate it is insignificant.

Nancy Pelosi is wrong - Cheney and Bush must be impeached, if Congress is to accomplish anything significant.

Here is one of many specific high crimes, which was committed by Vice President Cheney:

George Bush and Dick Cheney knowingly and willfully passed false information to Congress about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities, their possession of chemical weapons, biological weapons, and delivery systems.

Furthermore, George Bush and Dick Cheney passed false information to Congress by falsely stating that Iraq was an imminent threat to the United States and that military action was therefore necessary. The false statements are detailed, on Dennis Kucinich's website. Congressman John Conyers has produced a 273-page report that focuses on this topic. Congressman Henry Waxman has put online a searchable database of lies. You can find these and numerous other collections of evidence at www.afterdowningstreet.org.

First Charge:
Cheney has purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the United States Armed Forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security interests:

(1) Despite all evidence to the contrary, the Vice President actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States about an alleged threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction:

(A) ''We know they have biological and chemical weapons.'' March 17, 2002, Press Conference by Vice President Dick Cheney and His Highness Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Crown Prince of Bahrain at Shaikh Hamad Palace.
(B) ''...and we know they are pursuing nuclear weapons.'' March 19, 2002, Press Briefing by Vice President Dick Cheney and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in Jerusalem.
(C) ''And he is actively pursuing nuclear weapons at this time...'' March 24, 2002, CNN Late Edition interview with Vice President Cheney.
(D) ''We know he's got chemicals and biological and we know he's working on nuclear.'' May 19, 2002, NBC Meet the Press interview with Vice President Cheney.
(E) ''But we now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons... Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us.'' August 26, 2002, Speech 22 of Vice President Cheney at VFW 103rd National Convention.
(F) ''Based on intelligence that's becoming available, some of it has been made public, more of it hopefully will be, that he has indeed stepped up his capacity to produce and deliver biological weapons, that he has reconstituted his nuclear program to develop a nuclear weapon, that there are efforts under way inside Iraq to significantly expand his capability.'' September 8, 2002 NBC Meet the Press interview with Vice President Cheney.
(G) ''He is, in fact, actively and aggressively seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.'' September 8, 2002 NBC Meet the Press interview with Vice President Cheney.
(H) ''And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.'' March 16, 2003, NBC Meet the Press interview with Vice President Cheney.
(2) Preceding the March 2003 invasion of Iraq the Vice President was fully informed that no legitimate evidence existed of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The Vice President pressured the intelligence community to change their findings to enable the deception of the citizens and Congress of the United States.
(A) Vice President Cheney and his Chief of Staff, Lewis Libby, made multiple trips to the CIA in 2002 to question analysts studying Iraq's weapons programs and alleged links to al Qaeda, creating an environment in which analysts felt they were being pressured to make their assessments fit with the Bush administration's policy objectives accounts.
(B) Vice President Cheney sought out unverified and ultimately inaccurate raw intelligence to prove his preconceived beliefs. This strategy of cherry picking was employed to influence the interpretation of the intelligence.
(3) The Vice President's actions corrupted or attempted to corrupt the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, an intelligence document issued on October 1, 2002 and carefully considered by Congress prior to the October 10, 2002 vote to authorize the use of force. The Vice President's actions prevented the necessary reconciliation of facts for the National Intelligence Estimate which resulted in a high number of dissenting opinions from technical experts in two Federal agencies.
(A) The State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research dissenting view in the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate stated ''Lacking persuasive evidence that Baghdad has launched a coherent effort to reconstitute it's nuclear weapons program INR is unwilling to speculate that such an effort began soon after the departure of UN inspectors or to project a timeline for the completion of activities it does not now see happening. As a result INR is unable to predict that Iraq could acquire a nuclear device or weapon.''
(B) The State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research dissenting view in the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate also stated that ''FINALLY, THE CLAIMS OF IRAQI PURSUIT OF NATURAL URANIUM IN AFRICA ARE, IN INR'S ASSESSMENT, HIGHLY DUBIOUS.''
(C) The State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research dissenting view in the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate references a Department of Energy opinion by stating that ''INR ACCEPTS THE JUDGMENT OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS AT THE US DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY (DOE) WHO HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THE TUBES IRAQ SEEKS TO ACQUIRE ARE POORLY SUITED FOR USE IN GAS CENTRIFUGES TO BE USED FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT AND FINDS UNPERSUASIVE THE ARGUMENTS ADVANCED BY OTHERS TO MAKE THE CASE THAT THEY ARE INTENDED FOR THAT PURPOSE.''

Congressman Henry Waxman has posted a searchable database of lies. It includes Cheney WMD lies not included above (with citations) and Cheney lies about al Qaeda not included below, a total of 51 Cheney lies. And it explains how we know in each case that he was lying.

Law violated:
18 USC 1001.

Whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY FALSIFIES, CONCEALS or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, OR MAKES ANY FALSE, FICTITIOUS OR FRAUDULENT STATEMENTS OR REPRESENTATIONS, or makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or entry, SHALL BE fined under this title or IMPRISONED NOT MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, or both.

Twenty two Representatives have now cosponsored H Res 333, Articles of Impeachment for Richard Cheney. Even a poll paid for by Republicans found a majority favored Impeachment of Cheney. Adequate evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors already exists and more will emerge, with investigations.

I do not believe 34 Republican Senators would be willing to risk their seats, by opposing a Cheney conviction in the Senate. Twenty two Republican Senators are up for reelection, in 2008. Republican Congressmen persuaded Gonzales to resign, before he was impeached. Republicans will force Cheney to resign, to avoid repeated coverage of Congressional investigations of Cheney's crimes and political advertisements, emphasizing Cheney's crimes.
If Cheney is not removed before the Democratic and Republican National Conventions, next August, both parties will be targeted with daily Impeachment demonstrations. Republicans will want to avoid this and prevent losing even more Senators. Loss of 22 Senators, supporting Dick Cheney would be disastrous to the Republicans, in 2008, with a Democratic president, Democratic House of Representatives and Democratic Senate.

The founding fathers pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor, with a firm reliance on divine providence, to establish this republic. It is time for the House of Representatives take an effective stand against the culture of corruption, in the Bush administration, by passing Articles of Impeachment.

Please contact your Congressional Representative today and ask them to cosponsor Articles of Impeachment Of Vice President Richard Cheney. Also, please sign an impeachment petition and display an Impeachment bumper sticker or yard sign. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/petition

In response to the person who agrees that the country has better things to do. HA! Better than mending our democracy after the trouncing it's taken under this criminal administration? Nothing is more important than keeping our constitution safe and in tact. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Not some evil, corrupt rich old white man who thinks he's a god. All he is is a fraction of a human being that does not deserve the office of Vice President or even dog catcher.

More important things to do?
Multi-task please, like the rest of us.
IMPEACH, PROSECUTE.

I only hope that this measure passes, and that the impeachment proceedings don't stop at Chaney, but includes Bush as well. I just hate that it took so long for this issue to come to the forefront.

Impeach Pelosi AND Reid, if they won't impeach Chimpy and Dearth

but the sad fact is Bush didn't lie.
State of the Union:
"British intelligence has found that saddam purchased Yellowcake from Niger."
It had already been debunked in the Newspapers. In fact, there is good evidence that Michael Ledeen and his thuggish allies in the Italian Intelligence service, actually perpetrated the burglary of the Niger embassy, and produced the forged document that Joe Wilson and Mohammed El Baredai debunked in about 5 minutes. Not only was it a forgery, it was a spectacularly bad forgery. That's only one lie. There are literlly thousands of other lies. They need to be impeached, convicted, sent to the Hague, and after a fair trial, executed.

Stop the nonsense. All intelligence reports -- not only from the Bush administration -- but from British intelligence show that the president took the right course. Stop this impeachment consideration -- stop investigating everything -- Start legislating! The next time Kucinich sees a UFO, he should get on board. For this country -- Build The Fence Now -- that is the first priority. Another item --How can anyone want to put Bubba into the White House for a third term?

For the humpteenth time, our democracy; your democracy, absolutely requires that principles set forth in the United States Constitution be strigently adhered to.

Further, not only is strict adherence to the dictates of that document absolutely necessary, it is equally mandatory that the United States Constitution be protected at all costs and without any failure whatsoever.

This nation is strongest: this nation is truest to itself when each and everyone of us as citizens, actively and scrupulously disallows any acts contrary to its principles.

The Constitution is the foundatation of our system--our very way of life. Being an "American" requires every person's vigilance that no individual, no group or organization is above the Constitution and the principles it embodies. Simply, America is a nation of laws rather than a nation of men. Men or man can and do make mistakes, but our Constitution makes no mistakes.

Those who would act in any manner contrary to those principles must be identified and promptly prosecuted and if found guilty, removed from office. Articles of Impeachment voted out of the United States House of Representatives and subsequent trial on the charges by the United States Senate is the methodology employed to maintain this greatest document in all history.

To err is acceptable: to knowingly lie, cheat, steal, torture and corrupt with murderous consequences is not.

Bush and Cheney both took oaths to uphold and protect the Constitution. Certainly there can be little doubt that there is much evidence strongly suggesting that both violated their oaths.

Impeachment must be pursued.

Otherwise we all are guilty of deminishing the fundamental basis of our way of life. To do otherwise will set a dangerous precedent and threaten us all as well as those yet to be born.

impeachment is the only option to rein in the Bush administrations power grab. Do you enjoy the fact you can be investigated w/out your knowledge, without a court? do you buy into the idea that waterboarding is not torture? That it is "simulated" drowning? if you do I think you need to read up on what waterboarding is...it is not simulated, the media is failing us by saying it over and over and over again. Waterboarding is being drowned in a controlled manner. The administration is condoning it, in addition they are spying on us, they are lying to us. Eroding our rights in this BS "war on terror". Not only do we need impeachment hearings, we need this congress to declare the "war on terror" over, that it is criminal, not a war...

Republicans would have to be on board before impeachment becomes a reality.

Still, it's important to keep the issue in front of the public.

Kucinich is an American patriot ala Tom Paine and later, all those people who fought and died for the right to conduct the great American experiment. The Constitution is the list of instructions for setting up and managing the government. One of the items describes the remedy for "high crimes & misdemeanors"; this is called the impeachment clause. Our US Representatives are REQUIRED by this great document to proceed any time they think a high crime or misdemeanor has been committed by either the President or Vice President or any other official withing the Cabinet. I urge support for Kucinich's effort to impeach Dick Cheney. I believe he has broken many laws and trampled on our rights as citizens.

I though Haloween was over.

Folks,

The only "Terror" we need to fear . . . is "Fear Itself". We, "The People" have allowed our Government to sell us "Fear". Our two party system is equally involved in this "Sale". "We" The People need to speak to both parties in an unequivocal voice . . fuhgitaboutit You Fear Mongers! We, "The People" will decide . . . and "FEAR" is NOT the key!

Folks,

The only "Terror" we need to fear . . . is "Fear Itself". We, "The People" have allowed our Government to sell us "Fear". Our two party system is equally involved in this "Sale". "We" The People need to speak to both parties in an unequivocal voice . . fuhgitaboutit You Fear Mongers! We, "The People" will decide . . . and "FEAR" is NOT the key!

Kucinich has it almost right. We should impeach Cheney, but not for lying. That'll be hard to prove and his defense attorneys can play hell with that one. We should impeach him for incompetence. Obviously, he neither read the intel intelligently, nor did he think the war through. The worst that could happen is he blames Bush for incompetence.

Oh boy...here we go again! Look there's only about 14 months left before we have a new President. Does ANYONE really think an impeachment could occur before then???

Oh and for the record:

Clinton was NOT impeached for having sex in the Oval Office - that was unseemly. He WAS impeached for lying under oath (aka perjury) which IS an impeachable offense.

Now, out of curiosity, just what charge would you bring to impeach President Bush? Can't use perjury as he hasn't lied under oath...at least as far as I can ascertain.

Impeachment is a necessary tool for keeping governments in line. It is never a waste of time in fact it is one of the most worthwhile actions the people can take. As far as Chief Payne goes, impeachment for providing false evidence to engage Iraq is enough.
18 USC 1001.

Whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY FALSIFIES, CONCEALS or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, OR MAKES ANY FALSE, FICTITIOUS OR FRAUDULENT STATEMENTS OR REPRESENTATIONS, or makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or entry, SHALL BE fined under this title or IMPRISONED NOT MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, or both.
The Patriot act is totally unconstitutional.
Violation of Geneva Conventions(torturing prisoners)
Violated International Law by invading a sovereign nation for illegal purposes.
Using government funds for political propaganda related to Medicare.
HOW MANY REASONS DO YOU NEED?
Not to mention all the dirt you could dig up if they reopened the 9/11 investigation.
C'mon WAKE UP!!!! This isn't party vs. Party anymore. This is Bush vs. the people.

Gee NICK, the UN sanctions were violated and they gave Bush the go. Intelligence reports were reviewed and provided to Congress who gave Bush the go. Seventy percent of the U.S. population wanted to take 9/11 out on someone in the Arab world and they were giving Bush the go. Now, in retrospect, you and others say he and Cheney were criminally responsible. Don't think so. There will be no impeachment.

So those who would prefer or think impeachment is unnecessary claim that there was no lying or deceit involved in the seliing of the Iraq war. Interesting. That most of the Congress and America were convinced that we had to invade Iraq or face WMDs only to find out that there were none and Saddam only had "intent" but not the means was based on hard truth that NEVER existed? Mistakes of intelligence or did they consult stoned oracles? We do know that the kingpin evidence was obtained by torture in Egypt by a source that was well known to be 99% unreliable. How could the uncertainty not accompany the intel? Well Americans were suckered punched on 911 and then by Bush/Cheney with the WMD farce. We have our BS meters set on sensitive and claims that Bush/Cheney didn't lie are peggin' the needle.
We all were fooled and many of us bought into the crime so we really do understand the humiliation. Some just can't get over it and what they had to sell to defend this administration but we will all need to get over it and rally around each other, our Constitution, the rule of law, and the necessary remedies for our redemption. Impeachment, minimally, is a start to that redemption. It isn't pleasant but we will feel better when it is over and back again under the wing of honesty and justice.

I don't think there was a feeling of redemption after politicians in the senate refused to convict a proven perjurer who was guilty of a felony. Politicians in the senate will not convict these people for blunders, stupidity and misplaced ideological focus no matter the costs. Part of the reason is that most of these politicians are equally guilty of the same behaviors and are unwilling to cast the first stone.