Clinton's LBJ Comments Infuriated Ted Kennedy
There's more to Sen. Edward Kennedy's endorsement of Barack Obama than meets the eye. Apparently, part of the reason why the liberal lion from Massachusetts embraced Obama was because of a perceived slight at the Kennedy family's civil rights legacy by the other Democratic presidential primary frontrunner, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).
Sources say Kennedy was privately furious at Clinton for her praise of President Lyndon Baines Johnson for getting the 1964 Civil Rights Act accomplished. Jealously guarding the legacy of the Kennedy family dynasty, Senator Kennedy felt Clinton's LBJ comments were an implicit slight of his brother, President John F. Kennedy, who first proposed the landmark civil rights initiative in a famous televised civil rights address in June 1963.
One anonymous source described Kennedy as having a "meltdown" in reaction to Clinton's comments. Another source close to the Kennedy family says Senator Kennedy was upset about two instances that occurred on a single day of campaigning in New Hampshire on Jan. 7, a day before the state's primary.
The first was at an event in Dover, N.H., at which Clinton supporter Francine Torge introduced the former first lady saying, "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually" signed the civil rights bill into law.
The Kennedy insider says Senator Kennedy was deeply offended that Clinton remained silent and "sat passively by" rather than correcting the record on his slain brother's civil rights record.
Kennedy was also apparently upset that Clinton said on the same day: "Dr. [Martin Luther] King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Ac. It took a president to get it done."
Both comments that day, by Clinton and her supporter, were meant to make the point that Clinton would be better equipped to get things done as president than Obama, her chief Democratic rival. Sources say Clinton called Kennedy to apologize for the LBJ comments. But whatever she said clearly wasn't enough to assuage Kennedy, who endorsed Obama earlier this week.
Kennedy insiders say the Massachusetts senator has also been angry with former President Bill Clinton for his "Southern strategy" themed comments on the campaign trail. The senator didn't hide his disdain for the nasty tone of the campaign during his endorsement speech at American University on Monday.
Kennedy's spokeswoman, Melissa Wagoner, would neither confirm nor deny that the senator was angered by Senator Clinton's LBJ comments. She simply said: "Senator Kennedy knows that candidates can't always be responsible for the things their supporters say. He's proud of President Kennedy's role in the civil rights movement, and believes that it's time to unify and inspire Americans to believe we can achieve great things again."
The Clinton campaign hasn't responded yet to our evening-time request for comment on Clinton's telephone apology to Kennedy. On the day of the LBJ rhetoric, however, a Clinton campaign spokesman was quoted on the New York Times' politics blog distancing Clinton from the surrogate who made the inappropriate assassination comment.
By Mary Ann Akers |
January 30, 2008; 8:10 PM ET
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Posted by: Ark87 | January 30, 2008 8:48 PM
In other words his endorsement has nothing to do with Obama's credentials. Ted is just getting even. That is pretty childish.
Posted by: Jack ny, ny | January 30, 2008 9:38 PM
hillary's comment was correct. if LBJ would not have been president the act would have not been signed. JFK would have signed it also, but at the time he was not here. there was no slight ment at the Kennedy family. as far as race goes obama has been playing the race card. which he said he was not going to do. and now it has been brought to our attention about his dealing with lebonese crook rezko. who obama claims was only a five month stint. but it now comes out that rezko helped obama buy his house. what gives. obama critical of 527's but he sure has taken alot of their $$$'s. same with the drug companies. he in their pocket. while many seniors are having a hard time getting their prescriptions, and paying for them.
SO WHERE IS THE CHANGE OBAMA HAS BEEN SPOUTING. I DO NOT SEE WHERE IT IS! GO HILLARY GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: melody, Snohomish, wa | January 30, 2008 9:39 PM
Well, all Bobby Kennedy's kids are supporting for Hilary. Ted has done many great and many not-so-great contributions. I respect his judgment, but I think that there is a much better choice:
Ms. Hilary Clinton!
Posted by: Maggie | January 30, 2008 9:39 PM
Thank you Ted Kennedy, America does indeed need bold changes which the politically opportunistic Clinton megalomaniacs could never achieve. As leaders of the Democratic party, Billary conceded to every hawkish whim of the Republicans and frightened every other Democrat into playing along. Barack took a chance with his political career in opposing the war in Iraq and intelligent voters are rewarding him for it.
Posted by: ClintonsEqualBushes | January 30, 2008 9:49 PM
Maggie is right, if JFK were alive, he would have signed the Civil Rights legislation. He wasn't, so LBJ did. That being said, anyone who happened to be in the oval office at the time could have done it. The _reason_ it could be done was because Martin Luther King and his movement had changed the climate, and had solidly altered public opinion so that it could be done. I am not denigrating LBJ's contribution, it was a courageous thing to do, but the only reason it could be done was because of the contributions of MLK and all those who stood by him and changed America. Clinton is one of those people who could have sat in the office and signed the bill into law. Obama is the only candidate who could have changed the climate in order to make it possible for a politician to do so.
Posted by: Alex | January 30, 2008 9:50 PM
Ok am confused where is the democratic party heading?if this troubling news is the reason why Kennedy endorse Obama it is based on ego and personal animosity against the Clintons.How can we all come together come fall.Stay tuned this is troubling.
Posted by: sam | January 30, 2008 9:52 PM
Senator Clinton was very clear in what she said about LBJ helping to get the civil rights bill through the senate and then signing it into law.She made no remark that diminished Dr.Kings part in this great and much needed undertaking.We all,not just the Kennedys can be proud of this.I could be wrong but I beleive Ted Kennedy is just envious of the Clintons and the Kennedys never liked President Johnson either.It would seem that Kennedy is only using Obama to get even for an imagined slight.Senator Clinton did not owe him an apology.The very fact that she was gracous enough to offer one speaks volunes to her class and character and Kennedy's lack thereof.
Posted by: Nannie Turner | January 30, 2008 9:58 PM
Obama is up against a very vicious Goliath in the two headed monster, Billary. I give him all the credit in the world for having the guts to go against them. Not many Democrats have been bold enough to step up against this power duo and only now that Obama has done it, all of a sudden prominent Democrats have developed some courage. Good luck Obama!!! The world loves you!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9GPU3g7VSM&NR=1
Posted by: IrishGentForObama | January 30, 2008 9:58 PM
Pathetic! Teddy must have had too much to drink again. Hillary, you dont need that liberal endorsement anyways!
Clinton 08!
Posted by: Michael | January 30, 2008 9:59 PM
It's so obvious that the Democratic party's establishment is sick and tired of the bully tactics of the Clinton couple. Every significant couple is defecting to Obama. I hope CNN's Wolf Blitzer is objective in tomorrow's debate because he is such a Clinton puppet.
Posted by: Leeanna Ferez | January 30, 2008 10:04 PM
Hillary Clinton seems increasingly unstable. Her Stepford like delivery of the line about reaching her hand out "in friendship and unity", the glassy-eyed stare, the "victory" rally in Florida when she in fact won nothing -- I think that Kennedy stepped in to save our country from a potential madwoman.
Obama is authentic, brilliant, honest and, with any luck, our next president
Posted by: Suzanne | January 30, 2008 10:06 PM
Michael, Hillary tried to get the elder Kennedy's support but nobody likes their third world political tactics against their rivals. If Hillary is nominated, we're sure to lose to the Republicans...and I'd help them beat us too by voting and campaigning for them.
Posted by: Obamafansrule | January 30, 2008 10:08 PM
Go Obama! The whole world is behind you!
Posted by: Sally Hamilton | January 30, 2008 10:10 PM
I admire both Obama and Clinton. I was for Edwards. Now, I will support Clinton because of her clear agenda. As for Obama, I believe he could be a good president but in another time.
Posted by: mqr | January 30, 2008 10:14 PM
I wouldn't rely on Ted Kennedy to be one to point to as being one who wants America to come together. He helped lead to a Democratic defeat in 1980 when he took down Carter with his negative campaign and was pretentious and unyielding to the end at that convention. He's a Kennedy family loser. He's the one brother who wasn't fit to pick up the torch. And he's still holding a grudge with the Johnson family...give me a break!
Posted by: Tim | January 30, 2008 10:17 PM
Reading all these comments, I can not help but wonder why those against Hillary Clinton have to resort to rudeness, insults or name calling and those against Barack Obama appear polite. Am I mistaken in assuming that you are all supposed to be from the same Democratic Family? Or were some of raised up while others were dragged up? Please can you all learn to disagree without resorting to unnecessary rudeness? Some of us have to read these things! May I remind those rude ones, that they claim to be for change; I seriously hope that change is for the better.
Posted by: Fresh | January 30, 2008 10:20 PM
Another writer said the transfer to Obama of the Kennedy mantle by passed
his sons.
While the "passing of the mantle" aspect received the most attention, and
was the most upbeat part of the endorsement speech, the negative comments
about the Clintons were much more than a big snub. The endorsement itself
may have hit the Clintons hard, but Kennedy's comments about
them were as strong of an attack as one could make.
To make such a personal attack on the Clintons, Kennedy must have been
personally dissed to his face by one of them. I would like to know the real
reason not just for the endorsement but for that strong attack on the
Clintons. It must really have been personal.
Your article may have answered my question. Thank you
Posted by: pjonathan@chorus.net | January 30, 2008 10:20 PM
As a woman, I was for Clinton at first, then left for Edwards because of his poverty policies but am never going back to Billary after the crazy sh*t they tried to pull on America last week. They vindicated the rightwing's hate for them, and frankly, they won me to disliking them too.
Change comes from the bottom going up! Not as Billary would have you believe, top (corporations) down(the people). I hope all Democrats cast a protest vote against the Clintons if they wind up winning the primaries. Real change or vote Republican UNTIL the Democratic party's status quo seizes to be Republican-light, ie. the Bush allies, the Clintons.
Posted by: Nancy P | January 30, 2008 10:22 PM
I agree with Nancy.
And it's so hypocritical that Clinton borgs are complaining about the rudeness of Obama's fans -- do you know the Clintons at all? Rudeness and lack of civility does not even begin to describe them.
They are cruel, deceptive and ruthless against anything that stands in the way of their power exploits. Even the blacks have caught on to their evil schemes.
The author of the article above told only half the story. The real reason that Ted Kennedy opposed the Clintons is that he was afraid that they were doing damage to the party by categorizing its voters into conflicting racial and gender categories just so that they could leach votes from Obama. In other words, they were willing to tear apart the party for as long as the party was not entirely willing to hand them a royal pass to power. The Clintons are obviously spinning crap through their surrogates.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 30, 2008 10:33 PM
I had suspected his endorsement was strongly linked to ghosts of the 60s. This confirms it. Not a very strong endorsement for forwarding thinking. And I think Obama is naive enough not to understand what it really means to have Ted Kennedy in your corner. Obama's "new ways of Washington" are now more beholden to the old ways than Hillary Clinton's. Ooops!
Posted by: joywinnebago | January 30, 2008 10:34 PM
Obama 08!
The Clinton express has finally met its match!
Hope the Democrats continue to stand up to the selfish pair!
If Clintons lose, America wins. Even if a Republican wins. No more Clintons and Bushes.
Posted by: TheElement | January 30, 2008 10:43 PM
Why are all the most powerful democrats, Leahy, Kennedy Daschle, Kerry etc now dumping the Clintons even though they are leading in the polls?
HillBill are no different from Bush
Posted by: Jay Goldberg | January 30, 2008 10:46 PM
I think anyone who wouldn't vote for either Obama or Clinton isn't really a Democrat in the first place.
Posted by: joywinnebago | January 30, 2008 10:48 PM
Obama 08 is the only real change. Clinto is only a gender change but a continuation of Bush politics.
Posted by: Jay Goldberg | January 30, 2008 10:48 PM
I agree with whomever called Wolf Blitzer and CNN the Clintons' monkeys. Their game is so obvious that I can predict their spin on any Clinton related story days ahead. I too hope it's not going to be Wolf Blitzer and Hillary Clinton against Obama. He's ganged up with her against Obama before.
Posted by: Ozzie | January 30, 2008 10:52 PM
i'm from Sydney Australia, i'm an Australian but have been following the campaign of Hillary from the start....and also been doing my reseach of Obama etc....and what i have researched etc, Hillary has clearly have the experience and skills to move your country forward....all these candidates inc Obama are only tryin to pull up dirt on Hillary as well as attack her coz she is a Lady and they are scared of her....they are scared that a lady is going to beat them to the oval office....
you go HILLARY....you got my support....love ya work
Posted by: Daniel | January 30, 2008 10:56 PM
Ted needs to get over himself. He and Obama both have way too much ego for their own good.
Hillary has conducted herself pretty well, and is a classy lady.
Ted, Obama, and the spoiled media children have all been acting like bratty two-year-olds.
Posted by: VOTER | January 30, 2008 10:57 PM
Teddy Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy endorsements were not about Mr. Obama's credential or his competency. PERIOD.... It is out of spite.
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Posted by: Hillary supported the war. | January 30, 2008 11:10 PM
Teddy passes the Kennedy mantle to Obama. Since when did Teddy become the self proclaimed king of the Democratic party? It is insulting to me and should be to every Democratic that the notion Teddy chooses who should get the full support of the party. Its about us, Democratic voters, not who the old guard chooses.
My piece of advice for Teddy is stay away from the open bar and absolutely NO driving!
Posted by: David | January 30, 2008 11:11 PM
I couldn't agree more.
Posted by: Tangerine | January 30, 2008 11:11 PM
The food fight among dems wil elect McCain as the next president of United States. Not only we will stay in Iraq for 100 years, we wil also Bomb Bomb Iran, or di u forget that McCain moment.
How many presidential candidates support ed by Kennedy win since 1976 with the exception of Clinton. Didnt Kennedy support Kerry, and Gore.
This Punjabi thanks Mr Kennedy for not endorsing the senator from Punjab. That was the first racial salvo fired in this race. Does any one know who did it?
Posted by: Yogi Gupta | January 30, 2008 11:13 PM
God bless the noble Kennedys, if only the conniving loveless couple, Billary, was half as noble.
The Clintons are unkind for pretending that Ted endorsed Obama for selfish attacks. Their spinsters are working overtime on all sorts of forums selling the silly argument.
Not everyone thinks and acts like you, Billary.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 30, 2008 11:14 PM
The Clintons ARE NOT, as they think, the soul of the Democratic party. They conspired with the Republicans on virtually every crucial issue that Democratic voters opposed. Ted Kennedy did not, Obama did not...they did! The Bushes even consider this vernomous couple their friends and allies.
True Democrats would vote for Democratic issues, not only for candidates. Clintons, on the most crucial issues, have proven more Republican than Democrat!
Posted by: Boomerang | January 30, 2008 11:19 PM
I wish Obama would just stop talking through both sides of his mouth. He is the one who cries foul when someone turns up the heat. Look at who is flingng the mud today - Obama. He puts Clinton down by accusing her of being divisive when he is just as bad when he and his wife use race issues and references to win votes in S.C. - that's so hypocritical. His low down tactics even trancend his organization and supporters who resort to name calling and bullying on the internet when they cannot win an argument (the examples here are typical of the ones you find all over the internet). I was for Edwards but will now surely vote for Hillary as I am sick of Obama's double standards. He cries when he feels he's attacked but at the same time he's the one that's flinging mud when he can. Obama said he is for change - where's the proof? It's like someone just entering the workforce with no experience but wants the CEO job. NOT! His campaign is turning into a classless act based on double standards and you are milking the "race" issue to win votes. You do not have the spine to vote consistently (your record shows it); you know little of foreign policy from your naive answers during debates, you come up short on domestic issues and you are too arrogant and full of yourself. Spouting popular slogans with nothing to back you up reminds me of the old saying "Empty vessels make the most noise". On top of that, the media has made him their "darling" but will just pounce on anything Hillary and Bill will say and spin it out of control in a negative fashion. In contrast, Obama's offensive and put down remarks are given a bye time and time again. My family and I for one, will be voting against double standards and giving our votes to Hillary.
Thanks to John Edwards for running a great campaign and speaking for those in America that are less privileged. We will miss not voting for you - so Hillary here we go - you got our votes as we are sick of the "hot air" coming from your last opponent.
Posted by: Terry | January 30, 2008 11:23 PM
Lol, now the Clinton workers are cramming every site and abusing the Kennedy legacy. It didn't work on Obama, it won't work on the Kennedy family.
The Kennedy family sacrificed so much for this country. It's a sad shame that for political opportunism, the Clinton hired goons are now flooding the internet with irreverent abusive of such a beloved family. The Jackals should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 30, 2008 11:25 PM
Hillary trolls are busy tonight. hehe
Posted by: HillaryTrolls | January 30, 2008 11:26 PM
I think Obama needs a few more years, and I would vote for him then. But now, we need somebody who can correct what happen to our country. I will vote for anybody else if Obama wins the nomination.
Posted by: Jamie | January 30, 2008 11:30 PM
It doesn't matter what the Clinton trolls say, the Kennedy clan will always be something for America to be proud of.
Mary Anne Akers, you should be ashamed of yourself for the crappy argument. These guys have died in service to America and people like you posturing as intellectuals get paid to push this garbage as gratitude?
Posted by: Robert S Santana | January 30, 2008 11:31 PM
I will vote Republican is the race-baiting Clinton monarchy returns.
Posted by: Aroma | January 30, 2008 11:32 PM
I agree, the Clinton trolls keep stooping to new lows.
Posted by: Aroma | January 30, 2008 11:33 PM
As a democrat - I don't find it an offense to vote Republican if your party endorses someone you cannot support. All things being equal. I don't believe a Bill/Hillary white house will be much different from the last 8 years. My opinion in that case is to vote to keep my taxes low. I am willing to pay more - but not to move the chess board around to change the pieces. I am an Obama supporter but willing to make the sacrifice for the right candidate. Hillary is not that one - she asks nothing of us. Obama asks everything of us. WE NEED LEADERS NOT 3-POINT PLANS
Posted by: Trey86 | January 30, 2008 11:35 PM
FDR, JFK, RFK and MLK have left their brand on the Democratic party it is a brand of courage, sacrifice and love of country and countrymen! They are the exemplars that all politicians should emulate. The Clinton brand is a brand of sleaze, division and selfishness nothing is sacred to them the end always justifies the means.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 30, 2008 11:36 PM
Well said Trey86. Billary = Bush
Posted by: Aroma | January 30, 2008 11:38 PM
I held the Kennedy's in high regard (because of JFK) but now see at least 2 of them as small and petty. They have brought shame to their family and are trying to pass their actions off as doing what is good for the country. NOT!
Posted by: bonbon | January 30, 2008 11:39 PM
I too will vote Republican if the Clintons succeed in their racist and gender divide and conquer games. That will assure that the Democratic party abandons the plotting pair and is finally free to represent Democrats, not just Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Aroma | January 30, 2008 11:41 PM
God bless the Kennedys! God Blessed America the day the Kennedys came to America!
Posted by: Anonymous | January 30, 2008 11:43 PM
Bonbon...you must be talking about the low ranking Kennedy's that foolishly endorsed Billary (Republicans-lite).
Hillary started off Republican. i guess you can take the girl out of the gutter but you can never take the gutter out of the girl.
Vote anything but Billary.
Posted by: Aroma | January 30, 2008 11:44 PM
Thanks - And recent polls in CA and NY show the race tightening. Not to mention, Obama has the lead in 3 southern states as well as a few in the Midwest. We will win NY and CA anyway. Can we win in the South and the Midwest.
Posted by: Trey86 | January 30, 2008 11:45 PM
Without a candidate that can pull in moderates and independents. (did not finish the comment) :)
Posted by: Trey86 | January 30, 2008 11:47 PM
It took a lot of courage for Ted Kennedy to stand up to Bill Clinton's attacks on behalf of Obama. I hope this inspires other Democrats to do the same. The Clinton camp is trying to tell everyone that Kennedy stood up to them because he was protecting his own family and not promoting Obama. They obviously still think America is full of stupidos just waiting to be manipulated.
Posted by: Daniel H Wood. | January 30, 2008 11:50 PM
Ted Kennedy's endoresement of Obama is out of jealousy towards the Clinton's.He is the only Kennedy who couldn't get elected for president.JFK and his brother Robert Kennedy were true american's and civil rights leaders,there lives ended much too soon.JFK would have signed the civil rights bill,but he was not given the chance because of a nutcase like Oswald.Anyone who knows about the Clinton's knows that they have done everything they can to help the African-American population.Hillary didn't want race to become a factor in this race,but it's clear Obama benefited from the attention because he got 80 percent of the african-american vote in South Carolina.Hillary is the best qualified and ready to lead this country in a new direction.Who wants to be endorsed by Ted anyway.Have we all forgotten about Mary Joe,who was left to die beneath the icy waters for 8 hours when Ted drove off Dike Bridge,he swam safely to shore,and didn't mention poor Mary Joe till 8 hours later.Hillary has the endoresements of Robert Kennedy's children,and Hillary will be the nominee and she will bring the democratic party together.GO HILLARY!!
Posted by: hillfan from the south | January 30, 2008 11:55 PM
Lol. All the powerful men AND women are endorsing Obama and not Hillary! The pollsters say that Hillary's is highly popular amongst the uneducated. I'm not surprised. Hehe.
Posted by: Aroma | January 30, 2008 11:56 PM
I think Ted Kennedy is an old man who lost his way... He tried to control Clinton and found a more submissive Obama, ready and willing to do WHATEVER for an endorsement. For Ted and Caroline to say that Obama is this generations JFK is a far reach... Obama has done well with the speeches he gives using MLK and JFK's words of inspiration and hope, heck he even tries to inflect his voice to sound like them but he falls very short!Obama is not a LEADER he is a FOLLOWER; he is not original and has nothing to defend his position to be the next president of the US of A... Just like he did during his short time in public life; he will sidestep the issues and STAND FOR NOTHING... It is funny how people like him because he is pretty and can give a good speech but that my friend does not make a president!
Posted by: Muniz4Hillary | January 30, 2008 11:57 PM
What really offends me is how Teddy seems so protective of his brother's legacy yet is diminishing it in the same breath with this endorsement. He is cynically linking his brother's legacy to a one one-term senator in an effort to take an opponent out. They are licensing his image out to Obama like Elvis or something.
Anyone see the Obama/Kennedy commercial where they show a man landing on the moon? Nixon was president while that was happening. And Teddy was in Chappaquiddick right around that time.
Posted by: Scott, NY | January 30, 2008 11:59 PM
Yeah! Kennedy just endorsed Obama because he was jealous(?) Are you kidding us, Billary trolls? He stuck by your candidate and her husband when they were about to send Monica Lewinsky to the insane asylum for "imagining things" and yet you paid trolls now treat him like this? i hope Hillary pays you well for your disingenous service to America
Posted by: kelly | January 31, 2008 12:02 AM
Yeah! Kennedy just endorsed Obama because he was jealous(?) Are you kidding us, Billary trolls? He stuck by your candidate and her husband when they were about to send Monica Lewinsky to the insane asylum for "imagining things" and yet you paid trolls now treat him like this? i hope Hillary pays you well for your disingenous service
Posted by: kelly | January 31, 2008 12:02 AM
Yeah! Kennedy just endorsed Obama because he was jealous(?) Are you kidding us, Billary trolls? He stuck by your candidate and her husband when they were about to send Monica Lewinsky to the insane asylum for "imagining things" and yet you paid trolls now treat him like this? i hope Hillary pays you well for your disingenous service to America
Posted by: kelly | January 31, 2008 12:02 AM
LBJ did more for the civil rights cause than the safe and evasive JFK ever did during his presidency. If anything, it was JFK's death that help create momentum for LBJ's work in passing that legislation in Congress... So yes, JFK's legacy played a part in the 1964 act, but not in the way most Americans would like to believe it to be.
Posted by: Tram | January 31, 2008 12:03 AM
LBJ did more for the civil rights cause than the safe and evasive JFK ever did during his presidency. If anything, it was JFK's death that help create momentum for LBJ's work in passing that legislation in Congress... So yes, JFK's legacy played a part in the 1964 act, but not in the way most Americans would like to believe it to be.
Posted by: Tram | January 31, 2008 12:07 AM
Ted supported the Clintons before the race and gender baiting experiment exploded in their faces. The Clintons were asked to compete on legitimate terms but sought to divide all so that they could conquer Obama. They got what they deserved and now their surrogates are running around the internet trying to destroy the Kennedy name, particularly the long serving senator. God protect him from the Clinton scum.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
Obama's message of hope, message of bringing people together is nothing but WORDS that he HOPES helps him get in the whitehouse. Obama has said in an interview that if he doesn't win this time that he won't run again...DUH, it's because he will have to eventually show his true colors and people will not like what they see after 8 years. If he really believed that washington needs change he would not say, "I will not run again if I don't win this time around"... BOOHOO! Does this sound like a man who believes in what is coming out of his mouth or is he just telling people whatever he can to try and get elected, since this is the only attempt he will make...
Here is the website with him talking about not running again.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ne...
Posted by: Muniz4Hillary | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
Obama's message of hope, message of bringing people together is nothing but WORDS that he HOPES helps him get in the whitehouse. Obama has said in an interview that if he doesn't win this time that he won't run again...DUH, it's because he will have to eventually show his true colors and people will not like what they see after 8 years. If he really believed that washington needs change he would not say, "I will not run again if I don't win this time around"... BOOHOO! Does this sound like a man who believes in what is coming out of his mouth or is he just telling people whatever he can to try and get elected, since this is the only attempt he will make...
Here is the website with him talking about not running again.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ne...
Posted by: Go Hillary! | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
LBJ did more for the civil rights cause than the safe and evasive JFK ever did during his presidency. If anything, it was JFK's death that help create momentum for LBJ's work in passing that legislation in Congress... So yes, JFK's legacy played a part in the 1964 act, but not in the way most Americans would like to believe it to be.
Posted by: Tram | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
Ted Kennedy needs to get over himself and his family's legacy. I have lost respect for him because he is using Obama to extract revenge. How awful.
Posted by: Jon Perdue | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
Obama's message of hope, message of bringing people together is nothing but WORDS that he HOPES helps him get in the whitehouse. Obama has said in an interview that if he doesn't win this time that he won't run again...DUH, it's because he will have to eventually show his true colors and people will not like what they see after 8 years. If he really believed that washington needs change he would not say, "I will not run again if I don't win this time around"... BOOHOO! Does this sound like a man who believes in what is coming out of his mouth or is he just telling people whatever he can to try and get elected, since this is the only attempt he will make...
Here is the website with him talking about not running again.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ne...
Posted by: Muniz4Hillary | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
LBJ did more for the civil rights cause than the safe and evasive JFK ever did during his presidency. If anything, it was JFK's death that help create momentum for LBJ's work in passing that legislation in Congress... So yes, JFK's legacy played a part in the 1964 act, but not in the way most Americans would like to believe it to be.
Posted by: Tram | January 31, 2008 12:08 AM
Ted supported the Clintons before the race and gender baiting experiment exploded in their faces. The Clintons were asked to compete on legitimate terms but sought to divide all so that they could conquer Obama. They got what they deserved and now their surrogates are running around the internet trying to destroy the Kennedy name, particularly the long serving senator. God protect him from the Clinton scum.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:09 AM
I am OFF the Obama bandwagon. I've had it with the arrogance and vanity, and now to discover the reason Teddy Kennedy endorsed Obama was to pay Hillary back? Good Lord!
Posted by: Steven Redd | January 31, 2008 12:10 AM
I don't think an elitist attitude is attractive among Democrats.
The party has historically been credited for helping the "uneducated" and "working class." They are telling us who they believe can give them what they need: Hillary Clinton.
That should be something worthy of an elitist's attention--even among the "powerful" men and women.
Again, if you won't vote for either Obama or Clinton, you are not a Democrat. Those on the board saying that are the same kind of people who promised to move to Canada if Bush got elected and, evidently, you are still here.
I believe Hillary is a Rorshach test. If you have a visceral reaction, there's something you hate about your own life or something you are afraid of that has no basis in fact.
The New York Post is endorsing Obama. Enough said.
Posted by: joywinnebago | January 31, 2008 12:10 AM
Ted supported the Clintons before the race and gender baiting experiment exploded in their faces. The Clintons were asked to compete on legitimate terms but sought to divide all so that they could conquer Obama. They got what they deserved and now their surrogates are running around the internet trying to destroy the Kennedy name, particularly the long serving senator. God protect him from the Clinton scum.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:10 AM
Nice way to discredit Ted's endorsement, planted for by hillaryclinton.com
Posted by: Yiannis | January 31, 2008 12:13 AM
I am a Clinton Troll.
I am paid to post anything that discredits the good work and conscience of the Kennedys under several names. Barrack, Leahy, Daschle, Kerry and all who disagree with the Clintons' ruthless tactics are doing so because they are jealous, not because the Clintons are indeed ruthless and "Republican" in the way they abuse fellow democrats.
My programme says the Clintons are saints. *wink*
I need my battery recharged.
Posted by: ClintonTroll | January 31, 2008 12:18 AM
I am a Clinton Troll.
I am paid to post anything that discredits the good work and conscience of the Kennedys under several names. Barrack, Leahy, Daschle, Kerry and all who disagree with the Clintons' ruthless tactics are doing so because they are jealous, not because the Clintons are indeed ruthless and "Republican" in the way they abuse fellow democrats.
My program says the Clintons are saints. *wink*
I need my battery recharged.
Posted by: ClintonTroll | January 31, 2008 12:20 AM
I am a Clinton Troll.
I am paid to post anything that discredits the good work and conscience of the Kennedys under several names. Barrack, Leahy, Daschle, Kerry and all who disagree with the Clintons' ruthless tactics are doing so because they are jealous, not because the Clintons are indeed ruthless and "Republican" in the way they abuse fellow democrats.
My programme says the Clintons are saints. *wink*
I need my battery recharged.
Posted by: ClintonTroll | January 31, 2008 12:21 AM
I am a Clinton Troll.
I am paid to post anything that discredits the good work and conscience of the Kennedys under several names. Barrack, Leahy, Daschle, Kerry and all who disagree with the Clintons' ruthless tactics are doing so because they are jealous, not because the Clintons are indeed ruthless and "Republican" in the way they abuse fellow democrats.
My program says the Clintons are saints. *wink*
I need my battery recharged.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:23 AM
It appears as though most of Senator Obama's supporters here and on many blogs are really Republican's posing for him.
Slime dogs at there best...Politics at its best.
The Campaign of Hope is now a Campaign on a Rope...stooping to low blows and personal attacks. How quikly they learn...or mabye they always had the political slime attacks.
Posted by: Ann Aloha | January 31, 2008 12:23 AM
What's with all the hostility towards Hillary Clinton by so many women? Shame on you. As a woman I find it offensive that a Democratic woman (much less any woman) would use such degrading and sexist insults targeted at the first woman in history who has a shot at the Presidency. She should be applauded. And "Billary"--a reference borrowed from the Enquirer. It is disrespectful to refer to the former President and First Lady that way. At any rate, Obama seems to have a lot of support from people buying into all of the rhetoric of what he can do to save the country and recreate Camelot. It is a romantic idea, but we're in a mess and we need someone to clean it up. Obama does have potential, but would be better suited for VP. I don't think it fair to call the Clinton campaigns tactics into question without looking at Obama's campaign and some of the things coming out of that camp.
Posted by: Margret | January 31, 2008 12:24 AM
After reading the ridiculous sniping here by everyone, it looks like we'd better get used to hearing "President ...McCain". (shudder) Get it together, people!
Posted by: depressedlib | January 31, 2008 12:27 AM
If those are truly reasons why Ted Kennedy chose to endorse Obama, then Kennedy is a nut case. You don't endorse someone to be president because you feel your family legacy has been slighted, particularly when the slight is made by people other than the candidate.
I heard someone on CNN say that the tipping point for Ted Kennedy was a phone call he had from Bill Clinton that made Ted really mad. I don't believe it, but it makes me realize more than ever how sexist the media is - they want the story to be all about the candidate's husband rather than the candidate.
Posted by: Yappa | January 31, 2008 12:29 AM
Why are all the most powerful democrats, Leahy, Kennedy Daschle, Kerry etc now dumping the Clintons even though they are leading in the polls?
HillBill are no different from Bush
A spineless panderer, a drunk and two losers. Rackin em up alright.
Posted by: troy m. | January 31, 2008 12:29 AM
Carter lost the reelection in 1982 because Paul Volker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board (FED) raised the home loan mortgage rates in 1980, the election year, from 7% to 2.15% in eight months and threw the economy into Stagflation; high inflation with deep recession with millions of homeowner losing their homes to the banks, just like the Greenspan strategy of 2004 duping millions of homeowners out of their homes with the Subprime scam conspired by the Federal Reserve Bank, a private company controlled by foreign bankers. Incredible but factual.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:31 AM
I don't like Clinton BECAUSE I'm a feminist. She's Bill's puppet and is as mysoginist as Bill for brushing off his numerous adulteries.
What has she done to earn her place? She's held on to Bill's cape her whole life. That's not the role model I need for my daughters. Very weak and insecure woman who models her image after the most belligerent men to validate her strength as a woman. Pity.
As another feminist put it, Hillary looks at her femininity as a thing to get over, not a thing to extol. She's no Indra Gandhi or Golda Meir. She's a tag along and Bill is her master.
Posted by: Anne Lockley | January 31, 2008 12:32 AM
i chuckle at the hillary supporters who bend over backwards in tortured logic explaining clinton's mlk - lbj comments yet feign bewilderment and scratch their collective heads when obama explains his nuanced ronald-reagan-was-a-transitional-figure remarks. disingenuousness, a scorched earth attack mode, and hypocrisy seem to the guiding principles of the tag-team clinton campaign.
Posted by: jm | January 31, 2008 12:33 AM
Carter lost the reelection in 1982 because Paul Volker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board (FED) raised the home loan mortgage rates in 1980, the election year, from 7% to 2.15% in eight months and threw the economy into Stagflation; high inflation with deep recession with millions of homeowner losing their homes to the banks, just like the Greenspan strategy of 2004 duping millions of homeowners out of their homes with the Subprime scam conspired by the Federal Reserve Bank, a private company controlled by foreign bankers. Incredible but factual.
Posted by: JOE LANZA | January 31, 2008 12:33 AM
Carter lost the reelection in 1982 because Paul Volker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board (FED) raised the home loan mortgage rates in 1980, the election year, from 7% to 21.5% in eight months and threw the economy into Stagflation; high inflation with deep recession with millions of homeowner losing their homes to the banks, just like the Greenspan strategy of 2004 duping millions of homeowners out of their homes with the Subprime scam conspired by the Federal Reserve Bank, a private company controlled by foreign bankers. Incredible but factual.
Posted by: JOE LANZA | January 31, 2008 12:35 AM
Paid Clinton trolls, huh?
Wow...and I'm posting favorable comments for free.
(I'm even trying to avoid bashing Obama even though he's continuing to slam her in his stump speeches while she's not mentioning him in hers.)
I'm not a paid Clinton troll...but that could be a great part of an economic stimulus package.
Posted by: joywinnebago | January 31, 2008 12:38 AM
Clinton blew it. Period.
Clinton Surrogate Francine Torge compared Obama to John F. Kennedy who "was assassinated", and did it in front of Clinton, whose "expression did not change noticeably when Ms. Torge made the comment.
Then, she dismissed Dr. King. She was getting peeved at the comparisons of Obama to MLK and JFK. So what did she do? She was trying to make the analogy that Obama was about "hope" and dreams" like MLK, and she was a "do-er" like LBJ. That was not the best thing to do.
First of all, "King's dream" was "realized" when it was first "conceptualized". Period. In the face of being jailed, prosecuted, spit on, beaten, and threatened with death, King's dream forced the hand of Lyndon Johnson who acted only after he was forced to. So Obama was right when he called Clinton's remarks "unfortunate", and Clinton was right when she said she "misspoke". But there's more to it than that: she messed up on a monumental level.
Posted by: Rubiconski | January 31, 2008 12:38 AM
Yappa,
Of course those aren't the reasons. Use your brains to giude yourself, do not follow the Clinton trolls' leash.
They are mad that Kennedy did not endorse them and have formulated a "reason" to explain why.
Just like a scorned lover will explain away her rejection. The Clintons are scorned and hence their attempts to feed idiots such trash as the article above through their willing surrogate "journalists".
Posted by: TheClintonsAreScornedLovers | January 31, 2008 12:39 AM
To try and blunt the comparisons of Obama to MLK, RFK and JFK, she messed up and ended up offending the patriarch of the Kennedy clan.
Hillary has no one to blame but herself. And she did not speak "movingly" of MLK in that remark. I saw the video.
Hillary and her running mate Bill are both wack. The Kennedy's know it. I know it. Now you know it.
Posted by: Rubiconski | January 31, 2008 12:42 AM
Obama's fans are haters they are not uniting us with these vulgar attacks but dividing the democrats ,irony there!!!!
Posted by: gregg lower | January 31, 2008 12:43 AM
Mary Akers, THIS IS ALL HEARSAY.
And a way to discredit his endorsement or make some sense of it.
NOW should apologize to Ted Kennedy for their feminist attack on his character.
Posted by: StuntMan | January 31, 2008 12:43 AM
"I don't like Clinton BECAUSE I'm a feminist. She's Bill's puppet and is as mysoginist as Bill for brushing off his numerous adulteries.
What has she done to earn her place? She's held on to Bill's cape her whole life. That's not the role model I need for my daughters. Very weak and insecure woman who models her image after the most belligerent men to validate her strength as a woman. Pity.
As another feminist put it, Hillary looks at her femininity as a thing to get over, not a thing to extol. She's no Indra Gandhi or Golda Meir. She's a tag along and Bill is her master."
Bravo, Anne! You read Hillary perfectly!
Posted by: S Harper | January 31, 2008 12:44 AM
Robert Kennedy was the best Democratic candidate to run for president during my lifetime. He was truly concerned about civil rights and the plight of the poor. His children, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, RFK Jr., and Kerry Kennedy are all supporting Hillary Clinton. Their thoughtful, rational consideration of her candidacy is much more significant to me than the weird Caroline/Teddy brouhaha.
I was very excited about Barak Obama too, at first. He sounded good. Then I started to listen for the substance and didn't hear anything. I noticed his petulant-child tendencies ("You're likable... enough"). Then came his prevarication on the Rezko issue. Trying to pass off his 17-year relationship with Rezko as "5 hours of work," not giving back the campaign money until the day Rezko was arrested, etc. And what horrendous judgement it was to buy his house at a huge discount with assistance from the Rezkos, at a time when Rezko was under investigation. Then there was that four-page memo from his campaign staff of spurious accusations of racism against Clinton. Talk about race baiting! It's all too much now, and I just find him to be dissembling and highly annoying. I can't even listen to his voice without cringing. I'm amazed at the numbers who are taken in by this immature, naive neophyte. I miss John Edwards!
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:44 AM
"I don't like Clinton BECAUSE I'm a feminist. She's Bill's puppet and is as mysoginist as Bill for brushing off his numerous adulteries.
What has she done to earn her place? She's held on to Bill's cape her whole life. That's not the role model I need for my daughters. Very weak and insecure woman who models her image after the most belligerent men to validate her strength as a woman. Pity.
As another feminist put it, Hillary looks at her femininity as a thing to get over, not a thing to extol. She's no Indra Gandhi or Golda Meir. She's a tag along and Bill is her master."
Great post and I also agree with its originator. Hillary's macho act is as feminist as Michael Jackson's skin bleaching is about black power. Haha
Posted by: letsvoteforthebest | January 31, 2008 12:48 AM
obama drew 10 000 people in Denver today and 13 000 people in the evening in Georgia, I think...hmm, that might explain why the deceptive stuff is being posted by Clinton's people. They are losing sleep over his surge in the polls and the attendances at his rallies. Don't even consider his endorsements, they might give the Clinton puppets and Anne Akers a heart attack. lol!
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:53 AM
I see the Billary machine has shifted the character assasination resources from Obama to the Kennedys. Desperation, desperation. The whole world smells it from these people. they wreak of sour grapes.
Posted by: Sceptic | January 31, 2008 12:57 AM
Ted Kennedy is a BACK STABBER!!!!!!people here in Mass are disgusted he would endorse such an idiot, a novice!!Ted Kennedy,John Kerry and all the boys can't stand that Hillary is so smart,good old fashioned sexism!!Women have stuck by Ted Kennedy through the murder,booze,womanizing you name it,what a slap in the face!!but their will be a back lash trust me! shame on the press for giving Obama a FREE RIDE!!!and going after the clinton's in such a VULGAR over the top way!!!Obamas fans or zombies are usually young and dumb or out of touch politically!!they have no idea of what the clinton's have accomplished!!and btw Hillary is ahead here in mass 59 to 22 so much for Teds endorsment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: gregg lower | January 31, 2008 12:58 AM
As for the numbers of people coming to hear the speeches...they might just be coming to hear the speeches.
I heard him in person--long before I made a choice--and I left feeling inspired and motivated. He's a great performer. I just didn't see him as president material. Even after looking at his web site.
You know, it's possible some people aren't Obama-haters or Clinton trolls. It's very possible we made an informed decision and are proud of the presidential candidate we believe is best for our country.
Posted by: joywinnebago | January 31, 2008 1:01 AM
I'm glad that so many people actually caught on to Billary's twisted and corrupt plots against their enemies. I was beginning to think that we lived in a nation of zombies. Conragrats to Obama for the lofty Kennedy endorsement. Only he, and not the Clinton hyenas, deserved it.
Posted by: Acer4x45 | January 31, 2008 1:06 AM
Sour grapes!!!!!! That's all it is on the part of these guys.!! If Kennedy endorsed them they'd worship him....but because he turned down them down, he is now sour grapes to them. pathetic. We know what you're up to and it ain't working.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 1:08 AM
They can't stand the rejection from the Kennedys that count and that's why they are attempting to destroy them. The Clintons don't learn to run faster, they chop the competition's legs when they are losing. That's the only way they know to win races and that's why their surrogates are now attempting to chop down senator Kennedy. Truly pathetic.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 1:12 AM
Oh dear, more Ted Kennedy drama again whose endorsement was driven from reaction.
Unity?
Posted by: J. Jackson | January 31, 2008 1:14 AM
If Kennedy doesn't care about Obama's credentials, and just wanted to get even with the Clintons, then...
why didn't he endorse John Edwards?
Posted by: yungCaucasoid | January 31, 2008 1:15 AM
I just read a post that makes me believe in "Hillary as a Rorschach ink blot theory." A female with feminist issues.
She's a wonderful role model for women of all ages--and precisely because she gets up every morning and serves the entire country--those who profess to hate her and those who don't--in spite of the venom that's hurled. Grace under fire, who can fire back when necessary. Daughters could do far, far worse...like witnessing women tear each other apart for no good reason.
Posted by: joywinnebago | January 31, 2008 1:15 AM
This is turning me off from Barack Obama Im sorry his fans are way to into attacking Hillary, I thinks she is really smart especially in the debates,but i like Edwards the best I'm so bummed he dropped out!
Posted by: gina gallo | January 31, 2008 1:15 AM
"I don't like Clinton BECAUSE I'm a feminist. She's Bill's puppet and is as mysoginist as Bill for brushing off his numerous adulteries.
What has she done to earn her place? She's held on to Bill's cape her whole life. That's not the role model I need for my daughters. Very weak and insecure woman who models her image after the most belligerent men to validate her strength as a woman. Pity.
As another feminist put it, Hillary looks at her femininity as a thing to get over, not a thing to extol. She's no Indra Gandhi or Golda Meir. She's a tag along and Bill is her master."
Indeed, well said, Anne. The bickering will not win the white house. Let's re-focus ourselves.
Posted by: Anonymousgal | January 31, 2008 1:15 AM
Anybody who believes that Kennedy's endorsement of Barack is based entirely on these comments rather than his qualifications did not see Kennedy make the endorsement. If you saw Kennedy speak you would know that he believes in Barack. Sure, he may have been angered by the disrespectful comments about his brothr, but to suggest that was the entire basis or any basis for the endorsement is ludicrous. People who believe this type of gossip probably also read and believe the National Enquirer. Well, it is a fact that Hillary's fans are less educated and less sophisticated than Obama's.
Posted by: Kevin | January 31, 2008 1:18 AM
I agree Gina, they are hateful which is ironic since they are suppose to be about unity and positive hope.....
Posted by: gregg lower | January 31, 2008 1:18 AM
Hillary and Bill are running out of tricks. They are not even innovative or subtle with their evil ways. They are too transparent. Vote for change! No more Clinton lies and intimidation.
Posted by: Forzo | January 31, 2008 1:18 AM
Who the hell would want to get away from partisan politics? There will never be a political utopia that Obama supporters fantasize over. Who believes in this fairy tale crap? I want a president who will be ready to scrap. It's looking obvious that Mr. Obama can't take the heat...the Repuglicans will tear him up. Go to hell all you faux-Dems who dream of voting for Repubs if your nominee tanks. If HRC is the nom, she has my vote. If BO is the nom, he has my vote. Sh*t, I'd vote for a YELLOW DOG!
Posted by: TONY | January 31, 2008 1:19 AM
Special thanks to all for exposing Wolf Blitzer & his CNN cohorts. Its quite clear their loyalties are with the Clinton's. Hats off to Obama for fighting the good fight!! Go Obama! Go!
Posted by: keith | January 31, 2008 1:19 AM
Thanks for doing the right thing. It was exactly what we needed. You came to calm things down. Our dear Bill was totally out of control, and you were the only one with the clout big enough to stop him.
Ted did the right thing. He did it for the party. This is not about Bill, Hillary is the candidate, let her fight for it. Again, Ted did it for the party.
Posted by: Thanks Senator | January 31, 2008 1:20 AM
This cracks me up women that are suppose to be "feminst" but are voting for Obama ,make me laugh!!Im willing to bet these comments are not even written by women!!!And yes I agree with you guys, his fans are very hateful,its like a cult kinda scary they are all over the internet spreading hate.
Posted by: Donna Shay | January 31, 2008 1:22 AM
Kevin, they know what the truth is. they are just convincing themselves against an inconvenient truth, the way they convinced themselves that Barack voted to go to war.
This is what the Clintons and their tribe of surrogates do. That seems their only strength. Cruelty and vice.
Posted by: Forzo | January 31, 2008 1:22 AM
OMG!!!!!!this is so HATEFUL people stop it on both sides!!!The press is awful to Hillary as well as the people on these yucky sites.
Posted by: Colleen | January 31, 2008 1:26 AM
Donna, hate is closer to race-baiting than advocating for your candidate. advocating for Obama is not hating Hillary.
Your candidate race-baits, which does warrant contempt amongst civilized beings. Hate is another thing altogether. I personally don't hate anyone I've never met but I know I don't respect Hillary or her husband.
Posted by: EM | January 31, 2008 1:26 AM
Obama has just announced that he's asked Pollyanna to be his running mate!, and will ask the Care Bears to fill his Cabinet.
Posted by: Tony | January 31, 2008 1:27 AM
Guys Barack Obama is not bringing us together look at what is going on on this site and others,Im going for smart bring back the clintons!!
Posted by: Jack | January 31, 2008 1:28 AM
This is why this guy decided to endorse Obama??????? This why he decided to play with our nation's future?????? Because of his own vengeful ego! If this is true, I have lost all respect for this person. I care not to even mention their name.
Posted by: Jessica | January 31, 2008 1:29 AM
This article is not being awful to Hillary, it's being awful to a very honorable Kennedy, whose family has sacrificed so much for this country.
Spin it as you may, the hate is coming from the Hillary camp and not the Kennedys. Scroll up and read the abuse directed to him by the author of the article and the commentators alike.
Shame on you, Clinton trolls, for trying to spin it. Stop attacking people that disagree with your opinions. America is a democracy and everyone is entitled to their views.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 1:30 AM
OBAMAS FREE RIDE FROM THE PRESS HAS GOTTA STOP!!!!!!THE GUY IS SO SHALLOW!!!
Posted by: Todd B | January 31, 2008 1:31 AM
Clintons have been swift-boating Obama, failed and have now moved onto to the old man. They'll blame him for starting the whole thing and claim they're the victims after its all done, classic sociopathic behavior.
Posted by: Robato | January 31, 2008 1:33 AM
Reply to: "This Punjabi thanks Mr Kennedy for not endorsing the senator from Punjab. That was the first racial salvo fired in this race. Does any one know who did it?"
by: Yogi Gupta | January 30, 2008 11:13 PM
The Senator from Punjab comment was actually first made by Dr. Rajwant Singh at a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton that he hosted. It was meant as a compliment and she found it amusing. See http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/06/dpunjab_funny_d.html#more
Barack Obama never made this comment. It was repeated by one of his staffers on a mailer that made Obama quite angry when he heard about it, and it was immediately pulled. See the article on Obama in Newsweek of January 14, 2008. Bill Clinton was, as usual, stretching the truth.
Posted by: Ingrid | January 31, 2008 1:33 AM
What has exactly Barack changed??you guys are acting like he is going to turn water into wine lol!!I personally dont think he is likeable i find him to be very arrogant smug.
Posted by: nancy beech | January 31, 2008 1:33 AM
Media is being too nasty with clintons and has always given obama a free ride. He is acting like a kid after getting endorsement by kennedy's. (have you seen his pics with teddy at the sate of the union address)
Posted by: ClintonForPresident | January 31, 2008 1:34 AM
I believe this woman (author) is irresponsible. I also believe that many of you are nuts to believe this nonsense, and to express yourselves with such vitriolic language -- whether is be against either candidate. Grow up, geesh!
Posted by: Annoyed | January 31, 2008 1:35 AM
"OBAMAS FREE RIDE FROM THE PRESS HAS GOTTA STOP!!!!!!THE GUY IS SO SHALLOW!!!"
If anything, CNN is always giving Billary a free ride, that's why they call it the "Clintons News Network".
Google those words and you'll know why.
Posted by: Robato | January 31, 2008 1:35 AM
"I believe this woman (author) is irresponsible. I also believe that many of you are nuts to believe this nonsense, and to express yourselves with such vitriolic language -- whether is be against either candidate. Grow up, geesh!"
Don't worry annoyed, they're all likely one or a few individuals doing their best to help the Clinton cause. Let them amuse themselves, it will do no harm. Lol.
They know the truth about Obama AND Edward Kennedys. It's just that the truth does not sit well with their generally vicious choice of candidate.
Posted by: Robato | January 31, 2008 1:39 AM
I don't think that people really know much about Obama and I'm terribly afraid when I see a campaign based on a pretty word like "hope." It's like choosing your next president on "let's cross our fingers and hope that the Republicans will not be as nasty and destructive as they have been for the last 25 years."
I am really amazed at the vitriol aimed at Hillary. I can't help but feel that there is quite a bit of misogyny in this. Why do people love to tear her down? She's a hardworking, smart, experienced, effective, realistic person who's been hit in the guts before and knows how to survive. We need that.
I disagree with her war votes, and that's huge. But what legislation, what actual causes, has Barack ever stood up and taken a hit for? When has he ever really opposed the Republicans and risked their wrath?
It's too bad that we can't have both on the same ticket--they'd be a winning combo.
Posted by: nina | January 31, 2008 1:40 AM
Except for young voters I just don't get the adoration of BO.
Congress has a 24% approval rating because they've all been such wusses and haven't fought for anything Dems wanted since Nov 2006.
Obama has this "let's all get along" message reflected in the weakest Dem rebuttal ever after the SOTU by his backer Sibelius (where was Jim Webb from last year with his fighting words?) Do Dems really think that the Republicans are going to play nice because he's in the White House?
Hillary is backed by RFK's children who are REAL progressives and she will fight to get Democratic policies through.
She can beat McCain. I read that 12% of Repub women say they will vote for her and what about those who will do so behind the curtain but might not say so to pollsters?
BO looked like the junior senator he is, sitting next to TK. The country needs a fighter. I'm sticking with Hillary.
Posted by: BayAreaVoter | January 31, 2008 1:41 AM
One more thing.
It's not a good thing to take some sentences that a candidate says out of context and attack them. That's a Fox Network/Republican spin game. Who will ever run for president and be able to speak without being paranoid? Have you or I never said something that was taken out of context? Do we want candidates to be so terrified of being distorted that they can't speak from the heart? Let's look beyond some possible interpretations of statements and see the intent.
And let's look at a person's history, votes, positions, cohorts, and other more important things and not just on one or another quickly spoken sentences. That's just crazy and look where it's gotten us--someone who speaks like a 4th grader.
Posted by: nina | January 31, 2008 1:44 AM
Billary is a thing of the past.
They will deadlock on every initiative if you vote them. They can't bring America together
Vote Obama for bipartisan progress.
Posted by: Owen Smiley | January 31, 2008 1:44 AM
Indeed, Owen.
It's about the past versus the future. Barack has forced a huge chunk of the old guard to wake up and accept that playing Republican B team just will not do in the 21st century and the old guard has now rightly adapted itself to forward thinking.
No more of the soap opera type of politics. Real progress and real change. We'll settle for nothing less.
Posted by: Robato | January 31, 2008 1:50 AM
So, it's finally explained why Caroline Kennedy came out from her media reticence.
Ted Kennedy's attack was vicious and his endorsement of Obama was nothing to be proud of. Remember, he was a wild womanizer; he took the life of an innocent woman Mary Jo and wss never held accountable.
A shameless Kennedy is now campaigning for Obama.
Hillary will defeat the Kennedys and surrogate Obama. Go Hillary!!
Posted by: gina | January 31, 2008 1:50 AM
Keep morphing into different poster names and attempting to argue what's plainly ANOTHER CLINTON LIE.
You guys are haunted with misery and envy because the endorsement did not fly your way. And now there's a full assault on senator Kennedy's reputation, just because he chose a nobler candidate over your divisive overlords, Billary.
Posted by: Robato | January 31, 2008 1:56 AM
Shame on the deceitful author of this article. Noone is attacking the Kennedys that endorsed the Clintons and yet the Clinton attack poodles are gnawing at Ted's reputation. Shame on you all. You already have a terrible reputation for these tactics and this won't help you in the long run.
Posted by: Robato | January 31, 2008 1:59 AM
What is POOR obama going to do if through his words of HOPE he actually got the dem. nomination??? Who would he run too, the media has been giving him a free ride because they are pushing the republicans agenda, trying to get MISTER I SIDESTEPPED 130 ISSUES AND VOTED "PRESENT" DURING MY SHORT TIME IN PUBLIC SERVICE TO WIN SO THEY CAN BEAT HIM DOWN. obama can give good speeches but that is about IT! No substance; he is a FOLLOWER not a LEADER! He talks about bringing people together YET HE SO OBVIOUSLY SNUBBED HILLARY AND THEN LIES ABOUT IT... Do americans really want someone in the whitehouse that will sidestep the ISSUES; someone that will not STAND FOR YOU! obama's words are pretty and all but if words were enough to win someone the presidency then we would have a lot more idiots like dubya up in there...Hillary is a STRONG WOMAN and we all know that the small mentality of many think that just because a woman is strong, smart, and successful that she is automatically looked at as if she was a witch, cold or polarizing... I am sorry but does obama think that his pretty words are really going to work on the REPUBLICANS and enemies of the world... I can just see him trying to make the speeches he does to osama bin laden or leaders around the world; they would laugh at him and then turn him on their knees and spank him!
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 1:59 AM
Someone above said, "electing Clinton to the White House is no different than the Bush White house."
As I recall the White house seven years ago had a balanced budget; eight years of peace and prosperity; crime down in every state, pronounced decline in welfare; 360 million new jobs compared to 3.5 million; college assistance to students; economy good; no military hospitals filled with wounded soldiers; nor families mourniing their loved ones-------- get the picture?
Compare the State of the Union speeches, just eight years apart. A WHOPPIING difference.
The present administration is leaving our White House a mess. I vote to have the former occupant/s restore lt's presence so that a future seasoned President Obana will continue it's great heritage, and the Bush White House left for the historians to unravel.
Posted by: jaycee | January 31, 2008 2:01 AM
Mary lies. Irresponsible Mary. Here is what Hillary actually said.
"I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in people's lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."
Posted by: thp | January 31, 2008 2:04 AM
Fresh, the answer to your question is very simple - they can't stand the fact that she is strong and smart and has substance. If you think they are rude here - try asking one of them a simple question - and have them scream at you - you are a racist. That's what they do - the sad fact is both his campaign and supporters are the one who made every question, criticism or expression of concern about race.
Posted by: Barbara Jones | January 31, 2008 2:08 AM
I pity the women journalist and other women who really don't know Hillary and are following blindly by what others have brainwashed them with regarding Hillary. The way that Hillary is being attacked and the way that she has been treated so unfairly by the biased media coverage is not only hurting her but it is hurting all the women who some day wish to be as successful as Hillary. People think that we have a long way to go when it comes to race but the journey for women's rights, equality and respect for their abilities is only getting longer because of the ongoing biased, twisted, and misrepresentation of her. Honestly, if Hillary were to get dirty with obama, people would get turned off because the small mentality of most americans believe that women should not do this to any man regardless of their color... people would say that is not a woman's place... WAKE UP PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE WITNESSING THE GREATEST INJUSTICE TO WOMEN AND THIS WILL FURTHER PROLONG THE INJUSTICE TO YOUR DAUGHTERS AND THEIR DAUGHTERS DREAMS OF SOMEDAY BECOMING PRESIDENT OF THE US OF A...
Posted by: fourthsign | January 31, 2008 2:10 AM
After many decades of respecting Ted and the entire Kennedy family, one grandstanding scene based in anger and hypocrocy is enough for me to rethink my seemingly misplaced respect.
Hillary was absolutely correct, and totally on target with the question, unlike her newsmedia and political naysayers.
It's time Ted gets a life and stops pretending he's neither racist nor sexist. He should just tell the truth - he's angrier than a hornet. Instead he childishly lashes out with an endorsement for a man he calls "Osama." On top of that, to not look sexist, he drags his niece out of obscurity to be the face for his dramatic and mean spirited snub. Only Obama's snub that same day is more childish and more mean spirited. So, two angry, mean spirited little men join forces.
Even worse is that Ted never ever supported positions that Obama says he supports. Then again, even Obama doesn't know what he supports, as he has yet to ever provide the most basic of any details.
One might say it's fitting for Ted and Caroline to align with Obama. Seems that on most days Obama pretends to be JFK. Pretty soon he'll start carrying a flame in one hand while using JFK's hand gestures with the other. Well, that is on days he's not pretending to Martin Luther King, or Ronald Regan. It's one thing to quote other people but it's another to pretend to actually be the other person(s). At best Ted is confused who he supports vs why he's angry. One is a name that confounds him, and the other is a statement of truth which also confounds him.
Posted by: Tommy | January 31, 2008 2:18 AM
BARACK MOHAMMED OBAMA'S CHURCH "TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST" WEBSITE: www.tucc.org. A CANDIDATE WHO WILL SELL US OUT TO AFRICA. CHURCH'S MISSION..."WE ARE A CONGREGATION WHICH IS UNASHAMEDLY BLACK AND UNAPOLOLOGETICALLY CHRISTIAN...OUR ROOTS IN THE BLACK RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE AND TRADITION ARE DEEP, LASTING AND PERMANENT. WE ARE AN AFRICAN PEOPLE, AND WE REMAIN "TRUE TO OUR NATIVE LAND",THE MOTHER CONTINENT, THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION. GOD HAS SUPERINTENDED OUR PILGRIMAGE THROUGH THE DAYS OF SLAVERY, THE DAYS OF SEGREGATION, AND THE LONG NIGHT OF RACISM. iT IS GOD WHO GIVES US THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO CONTINUOUSLY ADDRESS INJUSTICE AS A PEOPLE, AND AS A CONGREGATION; CHECK OUT THE WESITE PEOPLE.HILLARY HAS MY VOTE! www.tucc.org;www.tucc.org
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 2:40 AM
"I don't like Clinton BECAUSE I'm a feminist. She's Bill's puppet and is as mysoginist as Bill for brushing off his numerous adulteries.
What has she done to earn her place? She's held on to Bill's cape her whole life. That's not the role model I need for my daughters. Very weak and insecure woman who models her image after the most belligerent men to validate her strength as a woman. Pity.
As another feminist put it, Hillary looks at her femininity as a thing to get over, not a thing to extol. She's no Indra Gandhi or Golda Meir. She's a tag along and Bill is her master."
I'm 99% sure that Hillary has done more with her life than you will ever do. (Yale law school, numerous social work positions, 2-term senator, etc.)
Because of that fact that her husband was president and thus has had a more high-profile career, you discount her achievements. Sounds like b.s. to me. I think you need to research the definition of "feminist."
Posted by: Damon | January 31, 2008 2:47 AM
People, Rovians are also weighing in on this topic, for the sole purpose of sowing partisanship and divisiveness.
For the record, Ted declared his candidacy in 1980 one day before and not knowing that the Persian radicals would take over the U.S. embassy in Tehran. Everything changed in an instant. Ironic, in that Carter's blind support of the Shah and the Iranian reaction to it brought down Ted's campaign. He should have withdrew poste haste.
Posted by: John Crandell | January 31, 2008 2:48 AM
I look at these comments and obviously these comments about who Hillary is as a woman are coming from girls who have no idea what the struggle has been. These comments are coming from the generation of girls who look back at women like me who think that it was easy to be the "little woman" taking care of the house and home and at the same time holding down a job.
We are the generation that bridged the gap to help the women today have the choices they have, but the work isn't done. You still have no equal representation in Congress or the Senate. Despite the fact that the country is predominantly women we feel that we have to be told by men how to think, how to be led and what to do with our own bodies even.
We have allowed our even our most sacred texts to be maligned by the idea of men. So we as women are seeing our God through the prism of mens eyes. That is sad because we will never allow ourselves to lead or lead ourselves.
Here is a strong woman and a leader. As I think back to the first time she appeared on the scene in Washington D.C. in the impeachment hearings of Richard Nixon. Yes, unlike some people would have you think she was asked to be on the exploratory committee at a time when our country was in a serious crisis. We had a President who was REALLY BREAKING THE LAW, not something sexual.
So when someone like Caroline Kennedy stands up she has no authority with women in my age group, because the fact is, we remember a young woman in 1974 who was fresh out of law school who was so brilliant that she was selected to work on constitutional law and not just constitutional law, but really serious constitutional law.
Some of us realize that the Republicans have never ever forgiven her for that work many years ago and they waged war against the Clintons for their hard work for us. Some of them never forget because they thought that they could do anything they wanted like break into buildings and steal private medical records and many other serious crimes.
Now to women like me, we are really proud of Hillary and we know that we have done our time and we know just how hard it has been to bridge that gap for our daughters. We know that she has worked hard for us. We also know that an Obama doesn't represent US. We know that a rich woman like Caroline Kennedy doesn't understand US. She doesn't know the sting of poverty, the hardships we have felt. We know President Clinton knows that and we know Hillary got down and dirty with us too! We also know she has fought the hard fight with us!
We know Hillary Clinton is fair! We know that other people want life easy and we question, question their ability because they are like so many of the young generation who want it handed to them. Like the Caroline Kennedy's who have no idea how hard it has been for me in my life as I now struggle with a transplant, no job and only to look forward to having tumors removed.
Unlike other people who want to get there the easy way, we know that they don't represent real compassion, because if the Kennedys really meant what THEY said, they've had since 1960 to do what THEY said they were going to do and that is REALLY A BRIDGE TO THE PAST IF YOU ASK ME!
No, I want a bridge to the 22nd century with Hillary. I don't want that bridge to 1960 with Teddy Kennedy. I don't live like Caroline Kennedy. I live in the Pacific Northwest where Bill Gates lives and he gives his money away to the world. We live by example and Obama, his friend Oprah, she hasn't set up a foundation with her money, no she just amasses more and more wealth.
It's all about Oprah and her stuff. It's all about Ted Kennedy and his last power play, because if any one wanted the truth, the reason he endorsed Obama is because TED KENNEDY could take center stage. He can't do that with a President Clinton.
As I sit with my 80 year old mother and I talk with my 83 year old Father, because that is what you do when you have had a transplant and you have to have tumors out and you are unemployed, and they looked at Teddy Kennedy on television they shook their head and said, "He never quite got it." Sure they feel bad for Caroline, but you know, the only one that had any endorsement potential was really JFK Jr. because he was political and he expressed his disappointments over his cousins behaviors. I'm sure he added Uncle Teddy to the list.
As for Indira Ghandi, or Golda Meir unless you know them personally you shouldn't judge what they are relative to Senator Clinton. She's an amazing woman to me and to millions like me. As a woman who has listened to the noise of talking heads who can't tell me the reality of the years I have lived. As a woman who won't be told by another man that he knows better than me what it is like to be a woman and that he can represent me better than a woman can.
I watch daily as the media and kids RIP APART this woman and then I see a news article on television where I see a young man has thrown his 3 month old baby away or another man has taken a baseball bat to woman to try to kidnap her. So it is no surprise they don't have the skill set to select a President no one has taught them any discipline, but then look at the endorsements that Obama just got! Ted Kennedy? And they want us to believe that this is the bridge to the 21st century? I really laughed on that one, we are talking about a bridge to the 19th century Barack you are more confused than ever dear...
Posted by: UWBizKid | January 31, 2008 2:51 AM
who is writing all these norsence
Posted by: john | January 31, 2008 2:51 AM
TED KENNEDY KNOWS DARN WELL THAT CLINTON IS *NOT* RACIST...
My goodness, he is disrespecting his brother's memory by USING HIM TO GET PAYBACK ON CLINTON...
This completely voids his endorsement; which would have bizarre even if it were not for the supposed offense taken because Ted Kenn--of all people--knows we need a president who is going to have a backbone and stand up to the extremists in the GOP and help get to agenda that Ted himself wants. Barry the Crybaby can't do that in 2008.
Posted by: Gavin | January 31, 2008 2:53 AM
we're not Hillary trolls--we are just going to vote in the millions next Tuesday and surprise the Obamabots.
Posted by: BayAreaVoter | January 31, 2008 3:06 AM
Most of the comments are ignoring the REAL story: the Clintons' motivation for talking about King and Johnson. The context of these statements was Hillary taking 3rd Place in Iowa, and falling behind in New Hampshire. They were desperate, and THEY played the race card. Is the Democratic Party so blind they can't remember the chronology of events? Hillary made statements about Dr. King that implied he "only" had dreams, but it took a President like Johnson (and her?) to make change. King only gave his life for the cause, and I don't recall a national holiday on Johnson's birthday. And it's a STUPID thing to say anyway! She had an obvious motive. Bill continually said Obama's opposition to the war was a fairy tale, and that Obama was ahead in S. Carolina only because of race. Another stupid thing to say! I forgot how easy it is for Bill to lie. Hillary and her surrogates have desperately tried to get Obama off point, and then they have the gall to claim OBAMA brought up the race card! I had forgotten all of the Clinton scandals, and how their actions lost Congress and the Presidency to the Republicans for 8 years. And THAT'S why Edward Kennedy was so disgusted with the Clintons, and decided to back Obama. And with Edwards out of the contest, that's why I've finally decided to back Obama. I just don't see how I can morally, ethically, or spirtually back the Clintons.
Posted by: Jeff from California | January 31, 2008 3:11 AM
Senator Kennedy has every right to be upset. He's not the only one. Sen Clinton had gotten way too big for her pants and needed a basic shock to her political system. She ran around insulting World leaders (called Putin Souless and said that Musharrif was running for reelection when he was not) and acting like a crybaby, too. She got it. Obama's the better choice. But that can't seem to stop some people from playing games like at the State of the Union Adress:
http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-snub-ap-reporter-laurie-kellmans.html
Posted by: Zennie | January 31, 2008 3:20 AM
I am no fan of Clinton. As a very young teen, I worked for JFKs election, later, for LBJs '64 campaign. Obama had no place "characterizing" Clinton's remarks --nor did Caroline, nor her uncle.
YES, LBJ worked on momentum; but he went far beyond any aspiration, much less capability, of the Kennedy White House.
The LBJ tragedy is that of being duped into following JFK's folks in the matter of VietNam. That, probably an attempt to counter the foolishness - perhaps criminality - in the JFK administration's bungling of the Bay of Pigs.
Posted by: Mochni | January 31, 2008 4:04 AM
I had political dealings with Sen TEDDY in Nome,Alaska, April, 1960. seeking delegates for JFK to National Democractic Convention, Los Angeles, CA, 1960. This Hippo has crippled and split the Democractic Party by endorsing OBAMA in a rage, as the head of Party does not endorse until rank and file Democrats do. Its a mortal sin in politics, thats Tedddy's political philosophy thus his ''LAST HURRAH ''.
Posted by: Stan Harhut, Anchorage, Alaska | January 31, 2008 4:13 AM
the one that should be ashame is you "robertsantana". The Kennedy's did not sacrifice A THING for this country. Every movement was very much a calculation of Joseph Kennedy. When is all this romanticism toward JFK going to end? just because he was assasinated doesn't make him the best president the US has had. For no valid reason he would've us when the bay of pigs!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 4:31 AM
Sally Hamilton says" 'Go Obama! The whole world is behind you!"
yeah, to kick him out of the way!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 4:32 AM
I love how folks say Obama needs a few more years... Listen, you only get presidential experience by BEING PRESIDENT.
Hillary is no more experienced than Barack is. Don't go for the 'experience' spin. It's already been debunked.
Vote judgment, character, leadership ability and diplomatic finesse. Barack has these qualities ten times over Clinton. And for in-depth issue-talk, go to his site, barackobama.com/issues
Posted by: knixphan | January 31, 2008 4:32 AM
I really doubt that Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Obama was based solely on the incidents described in the story above. It may have pushed him off the fence, but perhaps Ted and Caroline had better reasons - like Obama has a better chance of being elected in November than Hillary, who carries so much baggage. Bill Clinton probably killed Hillary's chances with his outrageous behavior the past few weeks - the idea of Bill and Hillary living in the White House is just too much for a lot of people. Obama is the most exciting candidate the Democrats have had since JFK - why would they be so foolish as to reject him and nominate someone who turns off so many people?
Posted by: Bobster | January 31, 2008 4:36 AM
well spoken for a dumb follower trey86. Hilary doens't ask anything from us?
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 4:37 AM
maybe Mary Akers should run for President, she has plenty of people backing her up. HA HA HA
Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 4:38 AM
Why in the world would The Hillary have felt the need to apologize to Senator Kennedy for her LBJ comments ? I am pretty sure that I remember her defending them to the general public. This is exactly like her Iraq War vote. She refused to apologize for it, or to even admit that it was a mistake.
I am looking forward to Senator Obama keeping this race going until the convention. What we will see at the convention is the "Super Delegates" realizing that they have enough votes to throw their votes to Barack and send the Clintons on their way into history to the sound of one hand clapping. Hey Hillary? We'll see you next tuesday.
Posted by: Samsdaddy | January 31, 2008 4:43 AM
I was doing research to see where candidates stand for on the different issues that I believe to be imporatant for the US. visiting these web sites and reading the inmature, unfinished comments from the Obama followers have completely turned me off to vote for him. A good leader is when his followers as good as well. it seems to me the rethoric of change and hope hasn't entered the followers. it is more that of hathred and childishness...or is it that Obama's words do not stick because is just "pink rethoric"?.
Posted by: whotovotefor | January 31, 2008 4:53 AM
Ted did it out of revenge? Nope, Ted has been sponsoring this guy ever since he hit the Senate. He posted Mr. O to Hillary for training when he arrived and then told him to stab her in the back. She thought he would run 4 to 8 yrs. from now after her run so she gave him complete support only to have Ted tell him to run for Pres. now with Ted's support. They were just waiting for MLK day in SC when sensitivties are very high. High especially towards anyone who is not black who references MLK or race issues in any way that can be twisted in a sound bite.A time when the world's press focuses on race as almost the only topic anyone will talk about, to set up the Clintons as racists crap so they could officially turn on her in time for a big presentation just before the FL. primary. Backfired, he did not win it even with lots of "overlapping" tv and radio coverage. After all the papers, tv, radio covering the "passing of the mantle" and all the FL. ads they said he had no name recognition in FL.. Now they are on the rock star road show circuit. Lots of flash, money, whining, and bad manners. Sells records, may sell the candidate, but not to this voter.
Posted by: verytiredofprimaries | January 31, 2008 5:16 AM
I'm glad to see some other people coming to the same conclusions about the contradictions within the Obama campaign. The Obama "Movement" claims to want to "unify" people and get past partisan divisiveness, yet his followers appear to have an almost zealous hatred for Hillary Clinton. I find their rudeness and disrespect towards her completely inappropriate. I also find the "Billary" comments absurd. Hillary Clinton is a separate and completely distinct person, and to suggest otherwise is nonsense and insulting. If she were not an extremely strong individual she would not be able to run for this office or deal with the attacks. Apparently some people are threatened by a strong, smart, capable woman who expresses herself.
As far as the claim, change you can believe in, the Obama slogan...There is no logic or sense of reality to their thinking. What are they going to do, practice wishful thinking to make all difficulties in the world disappear? (or get together for group chanting yes we can, yes we can etc...) Or do they believe that President Obama will make speeches and everyone will fall in love with him and the world will magically be transformed? Sounds more like a cult following to me, and the crowd frenzy, especially the "younger generational" flavor -- reminds me of my own college days and our fervor, 35 years ago. We thought we were going to change the world too, with free love, drugs, meditation, rock music. The world has changed, but it has taken a very long time. For instance, when I was in college my mother believed women could only be teachers, nurses, or clerks, and that's it. It was a very big scary thing for a girl to become a lawyer or doctor or get a Phd.
Now finally a very brilliant person who is a woman, who had more progressive parents than I had, finally has the chance to become the President. Of course, she has to be twice as qualified as any man and gone through more hoops than anyone seems to expect of her opponent. Of course, because she is a woman suddenly being qualified doesn't matter anymore. Now we're supposed to choose a president based on who appeals most to the youth, who is the most inspirational speaker, who gives people hope in themselves, gets crowds fired up? Experience in dealing with challenges in the real world isn't important? Being a new face is more important? If that isn't old fashioned sexism I don't know what is.
Kennedy's giving his endorsement to Obama as revenge against Clinton doesn't seem future oriented, although it was a nice gesture to show to the young black man.
Oh right, race isn't a factor.
It's almost like the thought of a woman president puts some people into an hysterical frenzy -- they can't tolerate the change that would require in their thinking.
Posted by: rjc116 | January 31, 2008 5:25 AM
Most of you miss the point regarding the most important and substantial











Go Ted!!!