Sinbad Unloads on Hillary Clinton
Finally, the Barack Obama campaign has found a big gun to help shoot down Hillary Rodham Clinton's self-proclaimed foreign policy experience. And he may be the wackiest gun of all: Sinbad, the actor, who has come out from under a rock to defend Obama in the war over foreign policy credentials.
Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she's taking much grief on the campaign trail.

Sinbad, performing in 2007 for shareholders of Wal-Mart. Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the board of Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1992. (Spencer Tirey -- The Associated Press)
Harrowing? Not that Sinbad recalls. He just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops amid a much worse situation than he had imagined between the Bosnians and Serbs.
In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the "scariest" part of the trip was wondering where he'd eat next. "I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"
Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. "They said there might be sniper fire," Clinton said.
Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn't remember that, either.
"I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or 'Oh, God, I hope I'm going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.'"
In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."
Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"
As you may have guessed by now, Sinbad isn't supporting Clinton for president. He's an Obama guy. All because of Clinton.
"What got me about Hillary was her attitude of entitlement, like he messed up her plan, like he had no reason to be there," Sinbad said. "I got angry. I actually got angry! I said, 'I will be for Obama like never before.'"
But he's less ticked off with the Clinton campaign than he is with Saturday Night Live for its Hillary-loving sketches that portray Obama as an unqualified nervous Nelly. What really bothers him is SNL's choice of actor (Fred Armisen) to play Obama.
"My problem is -- you couldn't just temporarily hire a black man to play Obama? You had to put a white man in a black face? You couldn't find a light-skinned brother to play Obama?"
The Clinton campaign doesn't seem amused by Sinbad's commentary or his recollection of the 1996 Bosnia trip as more depressing than harrowing.
Defending Clinton's characterization of her Bosnia mission, campaign spokesman Phil Singer kindly provided experts from news stories written about the trip at the time, including a Washington Post story from May 26, 1996, that said, "This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone."
Singer also cited a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as "so tense. It was Crips and Bloods." (And that's how Sinbad continued to characterize the situation in our interview Monday. He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on.")
Still, defending Clinton against Sinbad the refuter, Singer said, "The sad reality of what was going on in Bosnia at the time Senator Clinton traveled there as first lady has been well documented. It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"
Snarky, snarky!
By Mary Ann Akers |
March 11, 2008; 1:14 PM ET
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Posted by: piper | March 11, 2008 1:36 PM
Experience cheering up troops in war torn countries? Sounds like Hillary could best be used in Iraq.
Sinbad, you rock on TPM!
Obama/Sinbad '08!
Posted by: platy | March 11, 2008 1:54 PM
LOL!! And Sinbad was there. Sinbad should be Obama's VP.
Posted by: LOL | March 11, 2008 1:55 PM
Ha ha ha. Sinbad's going to make Hillary regret bragging about "corkscrew landings" and "incoming sniper fire." Perfect material for a standup routine.
Posted by: John | March 11, 2008 1:57 PM
Clin/bad 08!
Posted by: carrie hussein | March 11, 2008 1:57 PM
"In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"
Oh Christ. I've been to countries that Hillary Clinton has never been to, so am I more qualified than she is?
Posted by: HowardsJohnson | March 11, 2008 1:58 PM
Sinbad: Experienced. Tested. Ready.
This is priceless.
Posted by: Kev | March 11, 2008 1:58 PM
Give me a break Hillary. Please. Your lie has been outed. Who are we now going to believe the Kansas City Paper which took the press statement the White House put out or the comments from Sinbad who was there? As for the "Crips and Blood" comment, Sinbad was talking about the effects of the fighting between the two groups, not an actual war zone. Your spin team is great at spinning bull, but this time I think it has caught up with them.
Posted by: Bill | March 11, 2008 1:58 PM
" It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"
lmao...the lows the Clinton campaign will stoop to...suggesting Sinbad's trip to Bosnia makes him qualified than Obama is remarkably absurd. Every time they make a snarky comment they just make themselves look like bigger a-holes.
Posted by: UCLAdy04 | March 11, 2008 1:59 PM
No, Phil Singer, the real question is: Has Senator Obama ever lied about his experience in Bosnia?
Posted by: OAmerican | March 11, 2008 1:59 PM
How long before we start seeing Sinbad introduce Obama at campaign rallies? Gold, baby, gold!
Posted by: John | March 11, 2008 2:00 PM
Well, okay. Sinbad's word against Hillary's. Let's ask Sheryl Crow. If I were President, I don't think I would send my wife and daughter to a place where there could be sniper fire. Was Bill secretly trying to get rid of them???
Posted by: Harold in NC | March 11, 2008 2:00 PM
Rumor has it Hillary's ready to roll out her "Big Gun" Pauly Shore in Pennslyvania.
Sinbad/Crow 2008
Posted by: brevaldo | March 11, 2008 2:00 PM
Hillary to Iraq.
Posted by: Ryan | March 11, 2008 2:04 PM
Evidently things in Northern Ireland weren't as described either:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml
That is the story from David Trimble, Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of Northern Ireland.
Posted by: Lynne | March 11, 2008 2:04 PM
vote obama end the drama.
Posted by: no billart | March 11, 2008 2:04 PM
Greg Craig just released this memo a little while ago countering Northern Ireland, Bosnia, etc. claims that Hillary's made:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/11/753881.aspx
Posted by: Lynne | March 11, 2008 2:06 PM
A potential combat zone? Freakin Compton California and Tiajuana Mexico are potential combat zones. Every day of the year for years and years with no UN intervention and not too many First Ladys' exposing themselves to the danger of a drive by or a failed drug deal.
The vetted forign policy she touts and her aids tout is less dangerous than many places in America.
Do you think perhaps the Chicago Ghetto and Projects that Senator Obama worked so hard in were not potential war zones?
How about we get over our hate and fear and smear. That is the real change we need as a Nation.
Posted by: mark musselman | March 11, 2008 2:08 PM
And also, Sinbad, thanks for the OJ song! I even laugh to this day when thinking of that show! You had the same childhood as myself and my 3 boys. Even if we were in different class' of poverty and skin color. We are all the same if we take the time to listen to and respect the thoughts of others. We do not have to agree with everyone on each thought but we do have the ability to listen and reason.
I love my country but do not trust my government.
Posted by: mark musselman | March 11, 2008 2:10 PM
I can't believe that this Singer guy is criticizing Obama because he's never been to Bosnia.
Well I have been to Bosnia (1994, medical relief work). And guess what? Just because you've been somewhere does not mean you know anything at all about foreign policy.
Clinton's biggest foreign policy decision was a total failure- her Iraq vote. She flunked the Presidential entrance exam big time - please keep her far way from that red phone.
Posted by: Doug M | March 11, 2008 2:11 PM
I would help fund the new campaign ad showing the 3 AM phone call.
The receiver rings. A hand reaches out and picks it up.
Cut to Sinbad yelling "Wassssup!"
Then grinning widely.
Posted by: steveboyington | March 11, 2008 2:13 PM
Love it! HILARIOUS. Yes, we realize you went there Hill, we got that!
Posted by: Jonathan | March 11, 2008 2:13 PM
Wasn't Sinbad on "A Different World."? Maybe he could get Obama to start wearing the "Dwayne Wayne" flip-up glasses. Those were soooooo cool.
Too funny.
Hillary can counter with another washed-up comedian to help her. Maybe someone with a less grating voice. Gilbert Gottfried? Bobcat Goldthwait?
Posted by: steveboyington | March 11, 2008 2:22 PM
This:
In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."
Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"
...is perhaps the funniest thing any comedian anywhere has ever said. Every time I read it I laugh, and now colleagues are getting nervous.
Posted by: Majorajam | March 11, 2008 2:24 PM
This is the sort of article that the media needs to publish. And not just because it's funny, but because it actually investigates the claims of campaigns, rather than mindlessly repeating whatever you're told without taking any steps to verify it. Kudos to you, Mary Ann Akers!
Posted by: davestickler | March 11, 2008 2:25 PM
Provided "experts" (sic).
Shouldn't that be "excerpts?"
That kind of mistake decreases the credibility of the writer.
Posted by: Dr. Kevorkian | March 11, 2008 2:32 PM
Made up heroics are GREAT NEWS FOR HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Scott Templeton | March 11, 2008 2:34 PM
Most people don't read the whole article:
He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on."
Posted by: Robert | March 11, 2008 2:35 PM
Olbermann should be booking him right now.
Posted by: The Zug | March 11, 2008 2:38 PM
Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"
HAHahahahaHAaha ....
Go Sinbad!
Posted by: jen m | March 11, 2008 2:39 PM
Sinbad/Clinton
Ready to eat from day one!!!!
Posted by: TennGurl | March 11, 2008 2:49 PM
Majorajam,
I'm with you. I was laughing so hard at that line, I had to go to the rest room so my co-workers wouldn't notice.
Posted by: Gail | March 11, 2008 2:49 PM
There's nothing quite as refreshing as running a 90's-style campaign in 2008. Give it up Hillary - you probably are nice in person as many people say, but your campaign image is that of a shrill, anachronistic throwback to days that are better left behind us. Your repeated attacks against Obama from the right - at a time when this country is absolutely sick of the right - are shameful and play right into the hands of Republicans.
Posted by: Tim B | March 11, 2008 2:50 PM
Sinbad's revelations are EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!
Posted by: danger | March 11, 2008 2:50 PM
Love it. Sinbad should start opening for Obama on the campaign trail....
Posted by: Andy | March 11, 2008 2:50 PM
"What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"
....Somehow, I can see Hillary doing something like this with Bill ;)
Posted by: Karen | March 11, 2008 2:51 PM
Lord know dreams are hard to follow
But don't anyone....
TEAR THEM AWAY (EEE-AY_YEE_AY_HEE-YAY)
Hold on!
There will be tomorrow
In time
You'll find the way!
Posted by: Roger Clinton | March 11, 2008 2:53 PM
I've been to France and Spain. I don't speak a single word of French or Spanish, not even enough to ask where the restroom is. But I've BEEN there. I believe I pass the commander-in-chief standardized test, Mr. Singer.
Posted by: Todd | March 11, 2008 2:53 PM
Gee, if only Sinbad had slept with Bill Clinton, then he'd have the same "experience" as Hillary and could be running for president.
Posted by: Joey | March 11, 2008 2:58 PM
wait, it's even better- Bill was also sending his young daughter into war zones as well. it seems she was on that same trip with mom and the comedian... yep, the DANGEROUS missions of Chelsea and Hills-- a new fantasy series starting this spring.
Posted by: JaKi | March 11, 2008 3:01 PM
Hillary-
Go home to NY before you make even a bigger fool of your self and your family than Bill did in the 90's. You start to lose respect for someone that sets themselves up to look like an idiot. When is silly season over?
Posted by: Robin Laurain | March 11, 2008 3:02 PM
Under a rock -- how dare you. Did you learn to "disrespect" individuals in journalist school. You should spend more time writing about all the things the Bush Administration has done to ruin this country instead of your insult to an individual that went overseas to entertain the troops (how much time did you spend with the troops). No wonder more and more people are getting their news from the internet.
Posted by: Hazel | March 11, 2008 3:07 PM
Hey, has Phil Singer ever been to Bosnia? I rest my case. And if it was a dangerous war zone, what kind of President would have dispatched his wife and his only child there? Was Bill Clinton tired of the whole family thing?
I think Sinbad nailed it. When an area is too dangerous for a President to visit, send your wife, your daughter, a comedian and a singer. Is that why Hillary wants to be President, so she can get even by dispatching Bill to dangerous areas?
Posted by: Arthur | March 11, 2008 3:11 PM
Okay this is getting silly now. I am really surprised at Hilary. I thought she was a better politician than this. This is the first real campaign that she has run and I am just totally disappointed. I wanted to be for her so bad because it would have been nice to see a female president, just not this one. She is not qualified.
It seems the only way she can get people to vote for her is to be extremely negative and then after that they have buyers remorse. If she is the nominee you will have a lot of that come this November. They were just not prepared. When you go into something thinking that you won before the game begins you don't work as hard as you should then you spend the whole time playing catch-up.
The problem with the kitchen sink theory is once you have thrown all of that at him and you still have several races left there is nothing else to do but examine everything that you said.
Now her so called experience is being exposed.
Posted by: mona1209 | March 11, 2008 3:14 PM
Obama hasn't been to Bosnia, but he's been to Kenya. Which one is in the crisis right now. Which presidential candidate took time out from his campaign to see if there was anything he could help out with during the election crisis there? And now he's finding himself in much the same crisis as Kenya - a party incumbant determined not to lose power to the opposition no matter what it takes. If anything, Obama's foreign policy experience makes him MORE qualified to tackle the issues facing the white house today.
Posted by: Cathy | March 11, 2008 3:15 PM
If this had really been a dangerous trip and there was genuine threat of sniper fire, does anyone really believe that Clinton would have sent his wife AND CHILD into it? No matter what you may think of the ex-president, there's simply no way that he'd have done that.
Hillary = fabulist.
Posted by: Howard B. | March 11, 2008 3:16 PM
Hey, where did all the Clintonites go? No response?
Posted by: Steve Charb | March 11, 2008 3:18 PM
Provided "experts" (sic).
"Shouldn't that be "excerpts? That kind of mistake decreases the credibility of the writer" - Dr. Kevorkian
Yeah, like you've never made that kind of mistake when you're in a rush. Everyone does it from time to time, including you.
Posted by: Ken | March 11, 2008 3:24 PM
ha ha hah ha ha ha ha oh hillary you really are SHAMELESS
Posted by: FLORIDA FOR OBAMA | March 11, 2008 3:26 PM
"Still, defending Clinton against Sinbad the refuter, Singer said, "The sad reality of what was going on in Bosnia at the time Senator Clinton traveled there as first lady has been well documented. It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"
No, I don't believe Senator Obama has visited Bosnia yet. Perhaps he can get Chris Rock and Lauryn Hill to accompany him. That'll make him fit for C in C!
Posted by: Ayana Flowers | March 11, 2008 3:30 PM
Maybe Mary Ann Akers should 'resign' too? Nah! I am absolutely certain that your choice of words were not meant to offend; however, a little care might bode well as the new journalistic standard where objective writing is far more important than word acrobatics. Cheers!
Posted by: Athena | March 11, 2008 3:31 PM
I see all sorts of possible Obama campaign commercials out of this. Just put snippets of Sinbad and the Irish PM's debunking of Hillary foreign policy claims. Add to it, the girl who was in the 3am commercial used by the Clinton's, who is now grown up and a precinct captain for Obama, and we have the makings of an Ad that will put all sorts of holes in Hillary's supposed Foreign policy expertise
Posted by: Wale | March 11, 2008 3:36 PM
"mona1209: Okay this is getting silly now. I am really surprised at Hilary. I thought she was a better politician than this."
I really think the Hillary Campaign thought they could present such an tremendous facade of inevitability that she'd walk away with the nomination. They stretched the truth a bit to bulk her up as much as possible, but when it didn't work, she's left scrambling.
To their credit, though, the one thing the Clintons mastered was the idea that the electorate has a very short attention span. If it had worked, few people would have looked back to check if what she said a year before the general election was true, especially if she was able to control the debate, which Team Clinton is very adept at....
Posted by: BABucher | March 11, 2008 3:37 PM
The Bosnian War ended in November 1995, so there wasn't much of a "potential combat zone" in May of 1996.
On that note, Obama's take on Kosovo's independence was downright bizarre. He only acknowledged the suffering of the Serbian people over the past few decades, when they were actually the aggressor, and didn't actually welcome the declaration of independence, although Clinton did.
Posted by: Andy | March 11, 2008 3:38 PM
Hillary-Sinbad '08!!!!!
Posted by: Mark F | March 11, 2008 3:41 PM
Clinton Playbook, Rule No.1: PERCEPTION TRUMPS REALITY. For the uninitiated, this is perhaps the most essential precept to living a double-life. Case in point, one Mr. Eliot Spitzer, governor of the State of New York. By day, Mr. Spitzer rooted out criminal activity and, was paid handsomely for it. By night, Mr. Spitzer himself indulged in those selfsame activities. For which he paid handsomely. It doesn't help that just about every photo of Eliot Spitzer, includes a certain New York Senator. However, I shouldn't be surprised by all the cross-pollination between Hillary Clinton and the Democratic super delegate, governor. Perhaps not surprisingly, Rule No.1. (otherwise known as living a lie) may also be the sole rationalization for Hillary's vast experience. Although one thing's for certain, neither New York politician likes having his or her bubble burst.
If appearing on Saturday Night Live is any indicator of experience, Hillary Clinton is a shoe in, as the Democratic nominee. Still and all, one might think Saturday Night would learn after the ill timed and irresponsible "Branch Dav-idiots" spoof, it made during the Waco standoff. Of course, SNL couldn't foresee the Clintons calling Attorney General Janet Reno to the White House the following day, Sunday. SNL couldn't know that only days later the situation would end badly. Of course SNL knows better in 2008, but few in 1995 knew the thin-skinned, volatile and incendiary nature of either Clinton, or the grasping synergy between them. As for Hillary, "Her experience speaks for itself," says former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke, who is advising her campaign: http://theseedsof9-11.com
Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | March 11, 2008 3:42 PM
hilarious. not only is the article hilarious, so are many of the comments. hope for america. we're still funny.....
Posted by: frieda406 | March 11, 2008 3:43 PM
Seriously. Sinbad?
Posted by: Frank | March 11, 2008 3:47 PM
Sinbad has the experience to answer the phone at 3 AM. He and Hillary saved Bosnia.
Posted by: Kwaku Azar | March 11, 2008 3:48 PM
This is just too funny. Anyone want to wonder why the first lady papers won't be released? Here's part of the reason, most of what she claims to have done was nothing more than smoke in mirrors b.s.
Posted by: Dreggas | March 11, 2008 3:49 PM
You know, with all of these conflicting stories about Hillary's involvement in the Kosovo conflict and foreign affairs in general, I just don't know who to trust. I wish there was some resource out there like an archives or a library all of the records, travel schedules, and itineraries of the former President and First Lady. That sure would be useful right now.
Posted by: Don in NC | March 11, 2008 3:50 PM
BREAKING NEWS:
Pauly Shore to endorse Clinton. Says Sinbad weaseled the juice and can't be trusted.
Posted by: John | March 11, 2008 3:50 PM
Did you know that Hillary Clinton was a tail-gunner during World War II?
I also hear that she tore down the Berlin Wall with her bare hands while being fired on by Soviet tanks.
Clinton '08!
Posted by: Mark Penn | March 11, 2008 3:57 PM
funniest thing i've read in a while. ha ha ha
Posted by: Chris | March 11, 2008 4:10 PM
Why would an Illinois Senator need to go to Bosnia? Why would the people of Illinois that he represents benefit from Senator Obama going to Bosnia? Would Senator Clinton have gone if she was not married to Bill? Would she have any notable experiences if she wasn't associating and exaggerating her role in Bill's presidency?
This is just as bad, if not worse, the GWB's statement of his military experience in the Air National Guard.
Hillary your 15 minutes has lasted way too long!
Posted by: Nick | March 11, 2008 4:11 PM
I love how Sinbad has become involved in this campaign. Truth is stranger and more hilarious than fiction.
I hope it gives him a boost in ratings, and gets more people to read his book!
"Sinbad's Guide to Life: Because I know everything."
I think Obama should put this guy in an ad immediately.
Posted by: Phil | March 11, 2008 4:14 PM
Is this going to put Hillary in the "I invented the Internet" category?
Posted by: Andy | March 11, 2008 4:17 PM
if the measure of whether a person is qualified to be C in C is the number of countries that they have been to then I imagine there are lots of pilots and flight attendants who are more imminently qualified.
It seems to me that just because you have a million frequent flier miles doesn't qualify you to be the pilot!!!
Posted by: CRAZYV | March 11, 2008 4:17 PM
"Gee, if only Sinbad had slept with Bill Clinton, then he'd have the same "experience" as Hillary and could be running for president."
Has Sinbad said he hasn't?
Posted by: CJColucci | March 11, 2008 4:19 PM
"We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."
Yeah, RIGHT. Good job on shoving this back down her throat Sinbad!
Posted by: | March 11, 2008 4:20 PM
Hillary's got more experience than Forrest Gump!
Posted by: David | March 11, 2008 4:25 PM
Hillary worked on key flower arrangements and table settings at the white house that paved the way for peace
in north ireland and kosovo. She took that tough 3am call. but it wasn't from a head of state it was from the manager of the florist on pennsylvania ave.
Posted by: fj | March 11, 2008 4:28 PM
"We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."
If this is true then why wasn't Hillary sent to Cuba. With her successes in Northern Ireland...Cuba should be no sweat.
Posted by: B | March 11, 2008 4:30 PM
Hillary is very amateurish. Who in the world counts a photo-op trip with comedians and musicians as foreign policy experience?
Does she think she's running for high school president?
Posted by: JustinA | March 11, 2008 4:32 PM
I still insist that Monica Lewinski has more Oval Office experience than Hillary.
Posted by: Tre' | March 11, 2008 4:34 PM
Sinbad isn't supporting Clinton for president, what a surprise.
He's an Obama guy, let's not kis ourselves, we all know why.
But that's all beside the point, the real point is who is Sinbad. I can't remember the last time I saw him but I'll bet it was on a late night show or in one of those money looser movies.
Can we keep this race to the Whitehouse at a Prime Time Level.
Posted by: dras | March 11, 2008 4:34 PM
By Hillary's definition of 'qualified', there was nobody better than Bob Hope to answer the 3:00 am call given the number of USO shows he had under his belt.
Posted by: Big Daddy | March 11, 2008 4:36 PM
Anyone see any resemblance to Hillary's advisor's and those of Britney Spears?
Hillary just release your tax returns, release your white house papers and let America evaluate your ability to be President based on facts not color, black, white, red, blue, gender, age...just facts. Until you do, a vote for you is a vote based on "speeches and words"
Posted by: CC | March 11, 2008 4:36 PM
Isn't this hilarious? A trip to Bosnia qualifies her to be Commander-in-Chief. How wrong she was with Iraq and Iran. The Centcom General who resigned today just show how good Senator Clinton's judgement on both Iraq and Iran were. I cannot trust her with anything let alone be Commander-in-Chief.
Posted by: Matt | March 11, 2008 4:37 PM
Why would someone bring their daughter on a "harrowing" trip? And why would the president ALLOW his daughter to go???
The trip was obviously a PR trip. Not one U.S. soldier was killed there - and as dangerous as the situation was - they were not in any real danger at all.
Posted by: Ginger M. | March 11, 2008 4:38 PM
"If this is true then why wasn't Hillary sent to Cuba. With her successes in Northern Ireland...Cuba should be no sweat".
Michael Moore's been to Cuba and he has a better health care plan than Hillary's!
Moore/Sinbad 2008!!!
Secretary of State: Sheryl Crow!
Posted by: Henry | March 11, 2008 4:41 PM
Hillary cannot be trusted with this country and why does she need Obama as her VP Bill Clinton will do that job just fine, you remember two for one.
Posted by: Bill Clinton | March 11, 2008 4:42 PM
This needs to go to FOX NEWS, MSMBC and CNN. TODAY. He can tell his jokes on National television. The girl in the 3:00 video was not happy about how she was used and no one told her that she was making a commercial for Hillary. So she came out and said that was me but I support OBAMA! I said what elese could happen to make Hillary look like she crazy.
Need I say more SINBAD LMAO!
Posted by: msrita | March 11, 2008 4:43 PM
Incredible! I started off this primary season with a high regard for Hillary and Bill Clinton but now ...... I'm thoroughly disgusted by the mention of their names.
Steward of the economy? She had to lend $5 million dollars to her own campaign.
Leader? Sen. Obama has run a campaign that puts the Clinton political machine to shame.
Commander in Chief? What? By osmosis?
Experience? Sen. Obama has more legislative experience than Sen. Clinton.
Judgment? She and every other presidential candidate agreed to the DNC rules prior to the primaries but now that those rules don't suit her objective she wants to ignore that agreement and seat MI and FL. And, since that is obviously not going to happen she is a champion of voters' rights and supports a re-do?? Did she not consider these issues prior to signing the initial agreement? Wouldn't someone with good judgment have thought about disenfranchising millions in MI and FL before agreeing to do it and not after?
Accountability? Sen. Clinton is stalling on releasing her tax returns, her White House documents and hides the fact that she too is linked to Rezko....and what about Paul v. Clinton?
The Clintons are bad news.
OBAMA '08
Yes We Can!!
Posted by: Just Capri | March 11, 2008 4:44 PM
Governor Ed Rendell a Hillary supporter and superdelegate got money from the mob.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/penn-officials-won-t-part-tainted-cash
Posted by: | March 11, 2008 4:44 PM
Hey Hillaryous(pun),you dont look too good exposed.Let me throw you a wet blanket.wha ha ha ha ha(gasp gasp).What??? you can walk on water too?.Thats amazing.Well I already know you can f.lie. Keep it coming,we need the laughter.
Posted by: marlon | March 11, 2008 4:47 PM
Frankly I find most of the comments offensive deriding Senator Clinton's (and Sinbad's) visit to
Kosovo. Given people were being burned alive - babies being gutted in front of their mother's;
babies being picked up by the feet and having their heads smashed against the walls - in front of
their mothers, followed by the mothers being gang raped directly thereafter...whole villages and towns
young men being gutted and more atrocities than can ever be listed.. Sinbad, trivializing that visit as a literal walk in the park.... is as about as offensive as it gets!
The writer of this article is either too young and certainly not one who does his/her research... to remember,
or your paper is beyond belief.
I wrote an article at that time - that told one woman's story. She lost 21 members of her family in that
horror of a war. She to this day does not know what happened to her parents!
I also remember, that the ONLY world leader who stepped in to stop this ethnic cleansing nightmare was Bill Clinton.
And once he did.it was over in a week!
Shame on you all for trivializing the horrific deaths of so many in your zeal to have Obama elected.
Didi Miesen
Posted by: Didi47 | March 11, 2008 4:49 PM
What do the three have in common Governor Jon S. Corzine (D), Governor Ed Rendell (D), Governor Eliot Spitzer (D). They are all superdelegates supporting Hillary Clinton and all of them had extramarital affairs and all are aduterers. I wonder why women voted for Hillary? Is it because of sympathy. It seems that Hillary's Cabinet will consist of adulterers and feminists.
Posted by: | March 11, 2008 4:58 PM
Hillary is a legend in her own (and apparently MSNBC's) mind.
Anyone notice that these delusions of grandeur manifested themselves AFTER she wrote her book in which she sings a whole different tune?
For example, her experience with the Irish Peace Talks as described in her book focuses on a teapot that she discussed with the ladies.
Seems to me the pressure is getting to her, as her grasp on reality is slipping away.
What else will she imagine as real?
Not exactly someone anyone should want answering that phone at 3:00 AM, 3:00 PM or any other time for that matter.
Posted by: Lorraine | March 11, 2008 4:58 PM
It would figure you Obamanites would listen to someone of the political backround and well respected as SINBAD. Keep drinking the sand people, ridiculous.
Posted by: Amazed | March 11, 2008 5:01 PM
Did, nobody's trivializing the conflict. It was a really awful time for people living in the Balkans. But what we're laughing about is the idea that Hillary's experience singing for the troops somehow qualifies her to be leader of the free world.
Posted by: davestickler | March 11, 2008 5:01 PM
Bringing up Sinbad, who's not even on the D-List in Hollywood as an Obama supporter or Clinton critic is just a joke. Is this still the Washington Post we're reading?
Posted by: BattleStates.com | March 11, 2008 5:06 PM
This is Sinbad we're talking about. SINBAD!. Not Denzel or Morgan Freeman, please let's not take this so seriously.
Posted by: rigo | March 11, 2008 5:07 PM
No Shame on you for defending a woman who claims to have done so much for the people of this "ethnic cleansing nightmare" like you so put it. I was there in the Army, were you? Dont talk about what you dont know. Stories from a third party are all nice and great, but if its not first person then shut up!!!!!
Posted by: tony | March 11, 2008 5:08 PM
"What do the three have in common Governor Jon S. Corzine (D), Governor Ed Rendell (D), Governor Eliot Spitzer (D). They are all superdelegates supporting Hillary Clinton and all of them had extramarital affairs and all are aduterers. I wonder why women voted for Hillary? Is it because of sympathy. It seems that Hillary's Cabinet will consist of adulterers and feminists".
How about that biggest superdelegate of them all - Bill Clinton - and his adulterous tendencies? Imagine what he will be doing with all his 'free' time at the White House? .. And what happened to Vince Foster? Anyone wonder why?
Posted by: Seeker | March 11, 2008 5:12 PM
---writing this from Sarajevo.
The memories here (people living in Sarajevo in 1996) seem closer to Sinbad's recollection.
Posted by: Ann | March 11, 2008 5:20 PM
Florida Re-Do?? Bring it on.
"Elian Gonzalez - Reunited with Father in Cuba" - I do know how many remember this sad story. A poor little Cuban boy swam the ocean to freedom with his mother who unfortunately died in the escape to the US was returned back to Cuba by Bill Clinton. Smart old Bill thought it was politically correct to haunt a young boy. In order to appease Fidel Castro, Bill Clinton ordered the FBI to use force to drag a poor Cuban boy for the hands of his relatives at gun point in the wee hours of the morning. Poor little boy Elian Gonzalez who hid in the closet in fear was dragged out without pity, thrown inside an FBI waiting van, put on a plane and deported to Cuba. Clinton did this to appease and pacify an angry old Fidel Castro. This ugly incident reminds us of the extent the Clintons will go and do to please the Communist Regime in Cuba. This pathetic incident also reminds the Cuban Americans in Florida what Janet Reno did to them on April 22, 2000. For those who are not aware, Janet Reno was hand picked by Hillary Clinton as Attorney General for Bill Clinton. The Cuban Americans in Florida have not forgotten the wounds inflicted by the Clintons. We need a re-do primary in Florida and we will remind the Clintons and Cuban Americans what happened in 2000. We will remind what Clinton stands for to the Cuban American community. To the Cuban Americans the Clintons stand for oppression and injustice.
Posted by: sbgamatt | March 11, 2008 5:25 PM
This is a fantastic piece!
If you want to see more on Hillary Clinton's "EXPERIENCE", the below copied link will take you to the most damning thing I have yet seen. It's chilling. Just proof that experience means nothing if one has unrestrained ambition and no judgement.
Posted by: JakeLA | March 11, 2008 5:30 PM
What Bill Clinton did in Sarajevo was too little too late. Clinton's assertion about for her foreign ploicy experience in Sarajevo is demeaning, insulting and a travesty. She should be ashamed of herself given the destruction of lives in the Balkans. It was too little too late.
Posted by: sbgamatt | March 11, 2008 5:30 PM
Has Obama ever been to Bosnia? No. But then again, he's never been first lady, either.
Posted by: Riva | March 11, 2008 5:42 PM
Posted by: Meurs | March 11, 2008 5:42 PM
Something strange is happening. Obama has increased his superdelegate count by 2 a day. Are CNN, Reuters and the Assocaiated Press manufacturing these increases. We need to investigate. Something is really strange when Hillary's number are decreasing by one a day. Is this media bias or reality?
Posted by: sbgamatt | March 11, 2008 5:45 PM
Doesn't Sinbad understand how SNL works? They have a CREW each season and THEY perform the skits along with the guest host. They do not hire "temps". Especially not ones to satisfy a politically correct race baiter's demands.
Last time I checked Obama's mother was white, by the way. I guess we need to adopt apartheid rules of race to make sense of things huh?
The sad fact is neither Democratic candidate has foreign policy experience but if I had to choose the least worst between them it would be Hillary who has occasionally said responsible things (though usually reversed herself later depending on polls).
McCain is the only responsible alternative as bad as he is. Sad situation America finds itself in.
Posted by: Sam | March 11, 2008 5:49 PM
Hillary was on the front lines in Bosnia, and also brokered the peace in Ireland. Gimme a break!
Posted by: | March 11, 2008 5:54 PM
She's a legend in her own mind.
Posted by: Derek | March 11, 2008 5:57 PM
It is 3 am.
There is a phone ringing in the White House.
Something has gone wrong somewhere and important decisions need to be made.
I want Sinbad to answer that phone!
Posted by: Room 12 | March 11, 2008 5:58 PM
Well, you did hear the rumor about the 50 super delagates that supposedly have swung to Obama. Maybe this is what you are seeing?
Posted by: Jason | March 11, 2008 6:01 PM
To: Interested Parties
From: Greg Craig, former director, Policy Planning Office, U.S. State Department
RE: Senator Clinton's claim to be experienced in foreign policy: Just words?
DA: March 11, 2008
When your entire campaign is based upon a claim of experience, it is important that you have evidence to support that claim. Hillary Clinton's argument that she has passed "the Commander- in-Chief test" is simply not supported by her record.
There is no doubt that Hillary Clinton played an important domestic policy role when she was First Lady. It is well known, for example, that she led the failed effort to pass universal health insurance. There is no reason to believe, however, that she was a key player in foreign policy at any time during the Clinton Administration. She did not sit in on National Security Council meetings. She did not have a security clearance. She did not attend meetings in the Situation Room. She did not manage any part of the national security bureaucracy, nor did she have her own national security staff. She did not do any heavy-lifting with foreign governments, whether they were friendly or not. She never managed a foreign policy crisis, and there is no evidence to suggest that she participated in the decision-making that occurred in connection with any such crisis. As far as the record shows, Senator Clinton never answered the phone either to make a decision on any pressing national security issue - not at 3 AM or at any other time of day.
When asked to describe her experience, Senator Clinton has cited a handful of international incidents where she says she played a central role. But any fair-minded and objective judge of these claims - i.e., by someone not affiliated with the Clinton campaign - would conclude that Senator Clinton's claims of foreign policy experience are exaggerated.
Northern Ireland:
Senator Clinton has said, "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland." It is a gross overstatement of the facts for her to claim even partial credit for bringing peace to Northern Ireland. She did travel to Northern Ireland, it is true. First Ladies often travel to places that are a focus of U.S. foreign policy. But at no time did she play any role in the critical negotiations that ultimately produced the peace. As the Associated Press recently reported, "[S]he was not directly involved in negotiating the Good Friday peace accord." With regard to her main claim that she helped bring women together, she did participate in a meeting with women, but, according to those who know best, she did not play a pivotal role. The person in charge of the negotiations, former Senator George Mitchell, said that "[The First Lady] was one of many people who participated in encouraging women to get involved, not the only one."
News of Senator Clinton's claims has raised eyebrows across the ocean. Her reference to an important meeting at the Belfast town hall was debunked. Her only appearance at the Belfast City Hall was to see Christmas lights turned on. She also attended a 50-minute meeting which, according to the Belfast Daily Telegraph's report at the time, "[was] a little bit stilted, a little prepared at times." Brian Feeney, an Irish author and former politician, sums it up: "The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it."
Bosnia:
Senator Clinton has pointed to a March 1996 trip to Bosnia as proof that her foreign travel involved a life-risking mission into a war zone. She has described dodging sniper fire. While she did travel to Bosnia in March 1996, the visit was not a high-stakes mission to a war zone. On March 26, 1996, the New York Times reported that "Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn't hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the comedian Sinbad were also on the stage."
Kosovo:
Senator Clinton has said, "I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo." It is true that, as First Lady, she traveled to Macedonia and visited a Kosovar refugee camp. It is also true that she met with government officials while she was there. First Ladies frequently meet with government officials. Her claim to have "negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo," however, is not true. Her trip to Macedonia took place on May 14, 1999. The borders were opened the day before, on May 13, 1999.
The negotiations that led to the opening of the borders were accomplished by the people who ordinarily conduct negotiations with foreign governments - U.S. diplomats. President Clinton's top envoy to the Balkans, former Ambassador Robert Gelbard, said, "I cannot recall any involvement by Senator Clinton in this issue." Ivo Daalder worked on the Clinton Administration's National Security Council and wrote a definitive history of the Kosovo conflict. He recalls that "she had absolutely no role in the dirty work of negotiations."
Rwanda:
Last year, former President Clinton asserted that his wife pressed him to intervene with U.S. troops to stop the Rwandan genocide. When asked about this assertion, Hillary Clinton said it was true. There is no evidence, however, to suggest that this ever happened. Even those individuals who were advocating a much more robust U.S. effort to stop the genocide did not argue for the use of U.S. troops. No one recalls hearing that Hillary Clinton had any interest in this course of action. Based on a fair and thorough review of National Security Council deliberations during those tragic months, there is no evidence to suggest that U.S. military intervention was ever discussed. Prudence Bushnell, the Assistant Secretary of State with responsibility for Africa, has recalled that there was no consideration of U.S. military intervention.
At no time prior to her campaign for the presidency did Senator Clinton ever make the claim that she supported intervening militarily to stop the Rwandan genocide. It is noteworthy that she failed to mention this anecdote - urging President Clinton to intervene militarily in Rwanda - in her memoirs. President Clinton makes no mention of such a conversation with his wife in his memoirs. And Madeline Albright, who was Ambassador to the United Nations at the time, makes no mention of any such event in her memoirs.
Hillary Clinton did visit Rwanda in March 1998 and, during that visit, her husband apologized for America's failure to do more to prevent the genocide.
China:
Senator Clinton also points to a speech that she delivered in Beijing in 1995 as proof of her ability to answer a 3 AM crisis phone call. It is strange that Senator Clinton would base her own foreign policy experience on a speech that she gave over a decade ago, since she so frequently belittles Barack Obama’s speeches opposing the Iraq War six years ago. Let there be no doubt: she gave a good speech in Beijing, and she stood up for women's rights. But Senator Obama's opposition to the War in Iraq in 2002 is relevant to the question of whether he, as Commander-in-Chief, will make wise judgments about the use of military force. Senator Clinton's speech in Beijing is not.
Senator Obama's speech opposing the war in Iraq shows independence and courage as well as good judgment. In the speech that Senator Clinton says does not qualify him to be Commander in Chief, Obama criticized what he called "a rash war . . . a war based not on reason, but on passion, not on principle, but on politics." In that speech, he said prophetically: "[E]ven a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences." He predicted that a U.S. invasion of Iraq would "fan the flames of the Middle East," and "strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda." He urged the United States first to "finish the fight with Bin Laden and al Qaeda."
If the U.S. government had followed Barack Obama's advice in 2002, we would have avoided one of the greatest foreign policy catastrophes in our nation's history. Some of the most "experienced" men in national security affairs - Vice President Cheney and Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and others - led this nation into that catastrophe. That lesson should teach us something about the value of judgment over experience. Longevity in Washington, D.C. does not guarantee either wisdom of judgment.
Conclusion:
The Clinton campaign's argument is nothing more than mere assertion, dramatized in a scary television commercial with a telephone ringing in the middle of the night. There is no support for or substance in the claim that Senator Clinton has passed "the Commander-in-Chief test." That claim - as the TV ad - consists of nothing more than making the assertion, repeating it frequently to the voters and hoping that they will believe it.
On the most critical foreign policy judgment of our generation - the War in Iraq - Senator Clinton voted in support of a resolution entitled "The Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of U.S. Military Force Against Iraq." As she cast that vote, she said: "This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make - any vote that may lead to war should be hard - but I cast it with conviction." In this campaign, Senator Clinton has argued - remarkably - that she wasn't actually voting for war, she was voting for diplomacy. That claim is no more credible than her other claims of foreign policy experience. The real tragedy is that we are still living with the terrible consequences of her misjudgment. The Bush Administration continues to cite that resolution as its authorization - like a blank check - to fight on with no end in sight.
Barack Obama has a very simple case. On the most important commander in chief test of our generation, he got it right, and Senator Clinton got it wrong. In truth, Senator Obama has much more foreign policy experience than either Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan had when they were elected. Senator Obama has worked to confront 21st century challenges like proliferation and genocide on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He possesses the personal attributes of a great leader - an even temperament, an open-minded approach to even the most challenging problems, a willingness to listen to all views, clarity of vision, the ability to inspire, conviction and courage.
And Barack Obama does not use false charges and exaggerated claims to play politics with national security.
Posted by: KAM3 | March 11, 2008 6:01 PM
From another post on WaPo. A devastating indictment of Hillary's fabricated claims.
Posted by: KAM3 | March 11, 2008 6:02 PM
Sinbad's comments on the trip are not less valuable because he is a C-list celebrity these days. They are valuable because he was a FIRST-HAND WITNESS! I don't care whether it was Sinbad, Don Johnson, or Gary Coleman. If he was *there*, what he has to say about it is important.
Posted by: Aaron | March 11, 2008 6:07 PM
Was this the same Bosnia where Muslims were getting sniped and mortored by the Serbs for well over a year before Clinton (Bill)seemed to take notice. His big thing at the time was smoking...reducing smoking in the US.
Yeah, if the phone rings at 3AM in the White House with HRC as president, they will probably transfer the call to Bill's bedroom..."Excuse me sir, it's Monica."
Posted by: Mark | March 11, 2008 6:07 PM
Posted by: Didi47 | March 11, 2008 04:49 PM
Wrote:
Frankly I find most of the comments offensive deriding Senator Clinton's (and Sinbad's) visit to
Kosovo. Given people were being burned alive - babies being gutted in front of their mother's;
babies being picked up by the feet and having their heads smashed against the walls - in front of
their mothers, followed by the mothers being gang raped directly thereafter...whole villages and towns
young men being gutted and more atrocities than can ever be listed.. Sinbad, trivializing that visit as a literal walk in the park.... is as about as offensive as it gets!
didi I love Hillary but you seem to be mixing apples with oranges. There is no effort to minimize the horror of that Bosnian conflict. We dont even need to dbate that. We ALL know it was an atrocity. The crux of this article is the calim that Hillary makes that she was instrumental in the peace effort there. The only thing that seemed to be instrumntal was the music on the stage in her USO efforts. Just because the conflict was real didnt mean Hillary came within a miles distance from the conflict nor does it mean she did anything to alleviate the situation diplomatically. The argment that the conflict was real is as strange as McCain going to Iraq guarded hy attack Helicopters and a large contingancy of soldiers gaurding him, then proclaing Iraq as "safe to walk the streets" is the same as thinking Hillary would be put in harms way AT ALL as first lady. I love Hillary but on this point she got bit in the rear. As for some other poster dengrating Sinbad, go ahead. His comedy sucks. But as far as i can tell his eyesight is excellent.
Posted by: feastorafamine | March 11, 2008 6:23 PM
For every story I hear about either candidate there is another story to contradict it. If Sinbad were backing Hillary Clinton the same people on this post who are praising him would be saying his opinion was flawed, or attacking him with insults.
I have never seen a group of people who supported a candidate so angry and meanspirited. Most of his supporters say Hillary Clinton has done nothing of any worth, and Obama is perfect. They are both just people. How can people who support someone who says he is a uniter be so divisive.
To dismiss Hillary Clinton's experience with foriegn governments is the height of ignorance. This woman has worked for the rights of people her whole life.
I bet there is not one person on this post who can claim to have accomplished 1/10 of what either of these people have.
If you have information to share you should post it with a link to the source, a reliable source. Not the opinion of a supporter of the candidate.
I would not vote for Barrack especially when I consider they type of following he seems to inspire.
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 6:24 PM
Joey, if Sinbad had been sleeping with Bill Clinton, there would have been no bimbo eruptions.
Posted by: huma | March 11, 2008 6:25 PM
Blatantly caught in another deception from a long string of so many deceptions over the years. What I can't figure out is how she remains a serious candidate for President of the United States. It baffles me.
I honestly think an impeached and shamed Tricky Dick had more integrity, substance and intelligence ... and I couldn't stand the man.
Posted by: N Jams | March 11, 2008 6:29 PM
What a yuk. Clinton sent his wife to a combat zone? I'd believe he is cowardly enough to do it, but I don't believe she was in danger. Apparently the other comedian on the trip thought so too.
More Clinton lies. If her lips move, she's either cursing or lying.
Posted by: LarryG62 | March 11, 2008 6:36 PM
experts? ...campaign spokesman Phil Singer kindly provided experts from news stories...
You mean excerpts right?
Posted by: Dilbert | March 11, 2008 6:36 PM
KAM3
CAN YOU PROVIDE THE LINK TO THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED?
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 7:08 PM
Seems like every attempt to corroborate a Clinton claim to "experience" ends in embarassment for her. Liar liar pants on fire! Send this hack back to NY!
Posted by: Dahveed | March 11, 2008 7:13 PM
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 06:24 PM
Wrote:
I have never seen a group of people who supported a candidate so angry and meanspirited. Most of his supporters say Hillary Clinton has done nothing of any worth, and Obama is perfect. They are both just people. How can people who support someone who says he is a uniter be so divisive.
And....
I would not vote for Barrack especially when I consider they type of following he seems to inspire.
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Cheryl...I love Hillary as well but really. Do you think her supporters havent been equally as devisive? We are talking about BLOG supporters here NOT the actual candidates. Yes you are right they ARE people, that being said know that PEOPLE will say the most vile mean spirited things about Hillary OR Obama. You act as if Obama supporters have a monopoly in the realm of negative politics. I think that is far from the truth. Each candidate has a healthy portion of supporters tearing the opposition apart. (sad)
Onto a way more important note..You state
"I would not vote for Barrack especially when I consider they type of following he seems to inspire." That being said who would you vote for IF Hillary didnt get the Nomination? McCain? Nobody? How about realizing that Hillary's and Obama's policies are virtually identical. 99% of all this Hate is generated by the Media and bloggers. If you would support McCain How do you feel about the appointment of conservative judges to the bench to overturn Roe V Wade? How do you feel about the Privatization of Social Security? How do you feel about the prospect of a war with Iran? How do you feel about stringing the Iraq war out for years and years on end? How do you feel about even greater corporate and special interest control of our democracy? I could go ON and On with this list. POLICIES people. Stop the Hating and start finding some UNITY
Posted by: feastorafamine | March 11, 2008 7:23 PM
So now Barrack Obama is employing fear tactics in trying to get the vote of the hispanic voters.
Saying people are going to round them up and ship them out. He outright Lied In His Speeches in Mississippi. He said that people said things they didn't and tonight Lou Dobbs called on him to offer an apology for lying about statements he said Lou Dobbs made. I can't wait to hear how Obama supporters twist this to make it into, Barrack didn't lie and he is being unfairly attacked.
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 7:32 PM
f|_|ck Clinton and f|_|ck Obama and f|_|ck the Democratic party.
Posted by: Just say No | March 11, 2008 7:46 PM
You go, Sinbad. Only, don't be upset by the SNL skit. How could anyone miss the whole tongue-and-cheek aspect?! They were poking fun at Hillary's claims of how Obama is supposedly not ready. Does nobody appreciate irony anymore?
This is almost as bad as people thinking that the hilarious second No You Can't YouTube spoof was mocking the Yes We Can video. Sigh.
Posted by: atwl | March 11, 2008 7:48 PM
Senator Clinton has pointed to a March 1996 trip to Bosnia as proof that her foreign travel involved a life-risking mission into a war zone. She has described dodging sniper fire. While she did travel to Bosnia in March 1996, the visit was not a high-stakes mission to a war zone. On March 26, 1996, the New York Times reported that "Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn't hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the comedian Sinbad were also on the stage."
Posted by: Judy | March 11, 2008 7:48 PM
Sinbad owes over 2 million in taxes. What a great American.
http://www.ftb.ca.gov/individuals/txdlnqnt.shtml
Posted by: thetoaster | March 11, 2008 8:08 PM
I never, ever comment on these things, but I just had to say that the comment copied below was freaking HILARIOUS! Genius!
"I would help fund the new campaign ad showing the 3 AM phone call.
The receiver rings. A hand reaches out and picks it up.
Cut to Sinbad yelling "Wassssup!"
Then grinning widely.
Posted by: steveboyington | March 11, 2008 02:13 PM "
Posted by: | March 11, 2008 8:29 PM
feastorfamine
I do realize that there are insults on both sides but it has been my experience that Obama supporters are the majority in this area.
As for your questions about if Hillary doesn't win the nominatiion, who will I vote for. I really don't know. I know that the positions are supposed to be very similar but I really don't think Barrack Obama is being honest about his positions.
I have read his book and read whatever I could find about the man and I really find myself unable to take him seriously, I just think he is too much like a minister, and I do not think he is honest. I mean I really think he is dishonest beyond most politicians. I think he is very smart and very calculating. He plays people against themselves and each other.
I don't like McCain or any of his positions but I believe he is honest about what he believes. I just don't know what Obama is really about. Anyone who holds themselves out as so far above everyone else makes me uncomfortable. I really don't know what I will do but I don't think I could in bring myself to cast a vote for Obama. I may for the first time in my life, just not vote.
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 8:44 PM
"It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"
Does the Clinton campaign really want to have a debate with Obama on foreign/multi-cultural experience?
He has more multicultural experience coursing through his veins than Hillary has from being parachuted into all of the foreign countries she's visited for a few days at a time. Just release the White House records and put it to rest already. You started this debate, Hillary, just show us your hand so your proselyte bloggers can shut the rest of us discriminating voters up!
Don't hold your breath....
Posted by: Dee | March 11, 2008 8:54 PM
Cheryl-
Thanks for your candor. i respect your position although i do disagree about Obama. It sounds as if you "suspect" him of being something else. (Which is fear based)I woukld also respectfully diagree about the negativity war. Most pundets beleive that Hillarys campaign has been more negative, in fact many point to wins recently as a result of that negativity. I dont know where people get this notion that Obama thinks he is above people. I dont get it. Is it because he gives sweeping speeches that make people think he is a preacher? His style is reminiscent of the blustering speakers of the civil rights movement but he is no preacher. I think its the combonation of a meassage of hope, in tandem with his oration style that makes some folks think he is somehow "preaching" or thinks he is above them. I dont find that to be accurate. Ask yourself this...isnt the slam on Obama that he is a "risk?" Well i would rather risk a man with the right policies and sound judgement than a guy who supports nothing in common with me, that being McCain. I urge you and all proggresives to find some unity and vote for policies. I understand these primaries are heated, they have energized the electorate, and because of this voter turnout is 2 to 1 in favor of the Dems through the entire election cycle. However the ONLY way the Dems could lose the general election is if people get turned off simply because their candidate didnt get the nomination. thats why i continue to stress voting for policies. I would gladly vote for either Hillary OR Obama for this reason.
Posted by: Penny k | March 11, 2008 9:02 PM
has anyone else ever had their post disappear. I spent quite a while typing a reply to someone and when I hit post, it disappeared, this is the second time this has happened
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 9:28 PM
Hillary:
He dropped a Bomb on you!
Posted by: tanaS | March 11, 2008 9:33 PM
Copy and paste Cheryl..copy and paste. Bummer. I know how ya feel.
Posted by: feastorafamine | March 11, 2008 9:34 PM
If it was so bad why would Hillary take Chelsea? I personally believe Sinbads account.Hillary needs to back out now.She cannot win in any way that wont destroy her party and guarantee a victory for McCain.If she wasn't Bill Clintons wife she wouldn't be here.
Posted by: Joeysdadjoe | March 11, 2008 9:37 PM
Unless Clinton and Obama declare and implement a cease-fire between their respective camps, they will be handing Senator McCain the victory in November. Both candidates and both their campaign officials must rein in themselves and their reporters.
For more, read:
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/03/clinton-obama-c.html
Posted by: bn1123 | March 11, 2008 9:38 PM
swzr
He didn't donate the half of his property that Rezko bought for him to charity
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 9:45 PM
Nobody made a fuss when Darryll Hammond plays/ed Jesse Jackson, so why the big deal over Armisen playing Obama?
Posted by: Ben S. | March 11, 2008 9:49 PM
Obama should from now on totally compare Hillary's foreign policy experience to that of Sinbad. A simple slogan like that sticks, is funny and gives Hillary a taste of her own medicine (and the positive non mudlinging Barrack could pull it off if he does it funny enough).
Posted by: MCG | March 11, 2008 9:52 PM
Sinbad is funny. He also speaks truth. Check out his series of posts on TPM.
Posted by: 2d3sky | March 11, 2008 9:54 PM
SWZR
He did not donate the property Rezko bought for his use to charity.
Posted by: cheryl | March 11, 2008 9:56 PM
I just skimmed the article, and what irks me the most is not the Obama/Clinton silliness, but that Sinbad, and a lot of other blacks, think Saturday Night Live has to go out and hire someone else to play Obama.
No one complains when Rachel Dratch played Harry Potter. Did they have to hire a kid and a boy for that. When Will Ferrel played Janet Reno, which is actually much more insulting considering that she is a woman and he is not, no one got upset. Hell, Reno herself had a sense of humor about it. But, having a white guy play a black guy (who is really half black/half white) is forbidden?
And as for "blackface," it's not like Obama is Samuel L. Jackson, having just returned from a month in Mexico.
The whole SNL is racially insensitive or downright racist is just stupid.
Posted by: dma10014 | March 11, 2008 10:22 PM
As an experienced politician and parent, why take your daughter into a war zone, then attempt to reap benefits from it a decade later.
Score one for Obama; ironic given he didn't initiate this salvo.
Posted by: Marc Feldstein | March 11, 2008 10:23 PM
I think its bizarre to say "if its too dangerous, poor, etc....send the first lady." Were they trying to get rid of her? What kind of philosophy is that?!
As for Hillary, I really think her hypocrisy is LEGEND.
She criticizes Obama and summarizes his experience as one 2002 speech on the Iraq war. Then she says this (from Wash Post site (AP):
"Asked what foreign policy crisis had tested her and showed she possesses the skills to be commander in chief, she cited her advocacy for the peace process in Northern Ireland and her speech at the 1995 U.S. Conference on Women in Beijing defending human rights.
"To this day, I will have people stop me or come to see me who talk about that speech and what it meant to them and how it set sort of a framework for American foreign policy," she said.
Former officials in her husband's administration who were active in foreign policy have said Clinton is taking credit for accomplishing more than some recall during those years."
Just dwell on that for a while.
So, advocating for peace in Ireland and a 1995 SPEECH account for her red-phone training and all her so-called experience?!
ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME?!
How is Obama NOT going to chew her up over this and spit her out? She gave him a gift. If she ever, God forbid, did get to the general election, McCain would tear her to shreds.
I can't believe she cited a SPEECH as experience, given all her railing against Obama for his 2002 speech. At least his was more recent and actually on Iraq!
Sorry so livid, don't want to be one of THOSE posters....its just this recent turn of events has incensed me.
I can't believe this is all her campaign could come up with. So SAD.
Posted by: Hillmannic | March 11, 2008 10:43 PM
My take is that Hillary is just really good at shooting herself in the foot, she is a terrible lier. To say "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."
Really Hillary? That sounds absolutely preposterous! Who could possibly believe something like that? It's just stupid... Maybe someone joked about that, but it could in no way be taken as a serious statement. You would have to suspend all senses of logic and reasoning to believe that any White House Officials would send Hillary and a young teenage Chelsea into a life threatening environment that was too dangerous for the President.
The real problem this country faces is the matter of people believing the BS that Hillary is throwing out there. There are people who will believe just about everything she says, even though she has lied under oath during some of the investigations into her criminal acts. Folks, they really did find fingerprints on papers she said she had never seen before and did not know their whereabouts... that is in itself a criminal offense. HRC is a criminal, but she has Bill and political clout to keep her head above the law. That is part of the reason she is fighting so hard to stay relevant these days.
The politics of fear have put our country in this dire situation where we need to educate our fellow Americans and to be understanding of the fact that they have been mislead terribly.
Sinbad is not the best example of why HRC is such a symbol of hypocrisy, but her voting record as the NY senator sure is...Look it up and check out all that fluffy legislation...
-Healthy food week at public schools.
-Recommendations instead of laws.
-A Woodstock museum that cost New Yorkers a few million of their tax dollars...
-More attempts at recognizing new holidays, still with no cosponsors... sad really.
And all people have on Obama is that he tried to buy a home for his family. Realistically a bad move only at face value for political reasons, but consider the FACT that he did nothing criminal, and what have you left yourself with for a talking point here? He donated any Rezko contributions to charities... and by the way, the cosigner on his land purchase was Rezko's wife, not Mr. Rezko.
Facts are what's truly hurting Hillary, nothing more.
Posted by: SWZR | March 11, 2008 10:43 PM
Please, really, aren't you suppose to be an objective reporter? Seriously, "come out from under a rock"? That is WAY beyond the pale for a "serious" reporter. Perhaps, I am mistaken you for a paritan political hack If so, Well Done!
Posted by: Michael Johnson | March 11, 2008 10:51 PM
Since when is Fred Armison white?
Posted by: ese | March 11, 2008 11:07 PM
Obama is the best choice for US President.
Coincidentally; Clinton is the worst!
Posted by: Scott | March 11, 2008 11:09 PM
Obama said at the start of his campaign "My greatest foreign policy experience is the fact that I lived overseas", he did from age 6 to 10. Obama lacks the experience that Hillary gained being in the White House inner circle for 8 years, not to mention her years on the Armed Services Committee. He has no record in life to point to, but he loves to tell us all about that Speech he gave in 2002.
Posted by: Jim Aaron | March 12, 2008 12:04 AM
I'm so sick and tired of all these famous black celebrities and their loving of Obama. These are people that when the deal drops on the economy they won't be the first hit. I never realized just how low the self-esteem is among black Americans. And I'm an AA... so don't even start. It's pathetic. Obama is not qualified. Period!!!!
And for Sinbad to carry on about SNL not hiring a black actor. He knows better than that. SNL works with their repertoire of actors. It's all about unions and budget, he knows this. (Is Obama against unions, now?) And this is not a precedent. Where was the outrage when Billy Crystal imitated Sammy Davis for years? Oh... and I guess Eddie Murphy needs to stop his dual roles in movies and his Jewish sthtick?
But the real deal: OBAMA IS HALF-WHITE!!! So it certainly isn't beyond the pale (no pun intended) for a white or black actor to be able to play him.
Oh Sinbad... you're such a disappointment. Even if your recollection of the trip is accurate, Hillary is still way ahead of the trips that Obama has taken abroad. Ah now let's see.... he's been to Europe how many times as a senator?.... NONE.... And how many times before that?....NONE!!!
Actually, Sinbad is a more travelled than Obama. Maybe he should be running for president. I'd certainly vote for him before I'd vote for the senator from Illinois who's been in the senate only 3 years, and spent one whole year running for president. I wonder what that translates into work hours? I wonder if I could get away with that on my job? Naaah!!!!!
Posted by: mimi | March 12, 2008 12:20 AM
Sinbad - I've always been a fan but you have really lost perspective when you dictate that it takes a black man to portray a black man. Perhaps SNL wished to carry the sketch based upon the abilities of the comic instead of creating a caricature of the man. The white man had to create a presence to be Obama; a black could have just sat there to be Obama. You may not like the "joke", but, give credit to the comic for not leaving any doubt as to who he was portraying. Suggestion: WATCH Obama speak WITHOUT the sound on and you will see just how good the guy on SNL is!
Posted by: glosski | March 12, 2008 12:40 AM
I was there working for NGOs both during and after the war. The biggest problem in '96 when the Clinton Entourage was there was that the rest of us had to wait on an entry road in the snow until the SUVs (1 for each of the Clintons, we joked) rolled by...
Posted by: da Square Wheelman | March 12, 2008 12:41 AM
Cheryl,
here is the link you requested:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBqNQ
Posted by: KAM3 | March 12, 2008 1:13 AM
Lorne Michaels - SNL should give Sinbad the next available guest host shot ASAP. He'd be a riot plus he could write half the skits if not all of them.
Posted by: FutureMedia | March 12, 2008 1:19 AM
Look, we all know HRCs claims of experience are a crock. We just won't call her on it because it would seem too insensitve or sexist. Is there anyone out there who really, really believes that she played some kind of pivotal role in Northern Ireland or Bosnia? If she wants to be judged fairly on her 'experience' why doesn't she just release the records of things that she really did have something to do with - like the healthcare task force?
Posted by: Ian | March 12, 2008 1:29 AM
Thank god somebody said something. I was wondering when somebody was gonna expose Hillary.
On the issue of that dumb 3am commercial and her "experience" in bringing peace to Ireland, Fact Check said she was accurate in her statement about that. Strange that the main players one of whom is a Nobel Peace Prize winner said that she wasn't. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml
Somebody needs to fact check fact check. If you read that article, notice that one of her "peace talk meetings" was actually just a get together for a lighting of a Christmas tree. She needs to be called out.
Posted by: tks1 | March 12, 2008 2:02 AM
If Sen. Obama had ever been to Bosnia and dressed in native garb, the Clinton Campaign would have leaked them to their old pals over at The Sludge Report.
A Nobel Peace Prize winner debunked her claims of participation in the Irish Peace process.
How does she not get nauseous from all of that spinning?
Posted by: DanielleInIndiana | March 12, 2008 2:42 AM
Hmmm, there MAY have been some sniper fire huh?
Sen. Clinton, Obama, meet John McCain. He's been shot at. He had to ditch a fighter over the ocean, survived a horrific accident on the U.S.S. Forrestal that ignited the munitions on his plane, and got shot out of the sky over North Vietnam after hundreds of bombing runs. He was captured and tortured, until they found out who he was (the son of the commander of the Navy in the Pacific) so they tortured him worse for FIVE YEARS because he refused to agree to an early release before his fellow prisoners.
I don't know though, that Bosnia trip sounds really hairy in comparison.
Posted by: Mark | March 12, 2008 3:09 AM
A lot has been written and I have read all of these blogs.Wow, Sinbad really hit the nail on the head with this bit of info about the Bosnia trip.
I think it warrants a little more attention from the media than it got. I wish it could be played in PA and NC. It is worth paying to have it as a PSA on all the networks at least 3 times a day in PA.
That would help fry her.
Posted by: anama | March 12, 2008 4:00 AM
lordy, lordy...with clinton..its politics as usual..anything, anyway..just as long as we win...i wish it were november so all this would be over..what in the world has our country come to?
Posted by: grannie | March 12, 2008 4:53 AM
I can't believe how many folks are nothing more than sheep, following a man, whose only real credentuals are his ability to deliver a good speech, right over the cliff. Can anyone of you tell me what he has done that makes you think he can lead this great country of ours out of the mess she's in? I have yet to hear anyone list any of his accomplishments. Does organizing communities at as a young man mean he can run a country? He was in the Illinois Senate and it's been stated that it was difficult for a Democrat to get anything passed because the majority party was Republican. So what did he accomplish there? And what bills did he just vote "present" for that have never been checked by the press or anyone else? And what has he done in the Senate? Head of a committee that oversees NATO and has never held one single meeting??? And as far as Hillary and her foreign experience check out more than information from a Barack suppoter...ask Senator Mitchell how helpful she was in Ireland...and check out the facts about China and the other places that she's given her support. Baa Baa Baa that stands for Barack's sheep!!!!!
Posted by: cindy sue | March 12, 2008 5:33 AM
"meet John McCain. He's been shot at. He had to ditch a fighter over the ocean, survived a horrific accident on the U.S.S. Forrestal that ignited the munitions on his plane, and got shot out of the sky over North Vietnam after hundreds of bombing runs."
Hundreds? Fact-check needed here.
Would any Navy pilot with that record of aircraft loss be allowed to continue flying if he weren't an admiral's son? Just speaking of "affirmative action," military-style, ya know...
Posted by: flarrfan | March 12, 2008 6:30 AM
Why do you say Sinbad came out "from under a rock"? Is the intended inference that he is sleazy or somehow untrustworthy? That struck me as a very gratuitous crack unless you'd like to elaborate. Who else do you deign to have climbed out from under rocks?
Posted by: Jim | March 12, 2008 7:40 AM
I think that the problem with Clinton's foreign policy claims is not whether she appeared in Northern Ireland or was in Bosnia or did tour a refugee camp or did make a speech in China. I think that the problem is that she is exaggerating the claim of what she did do. For instance she claimed she negotiated an open border when that happened the day before she went to the camp. She did go to Northern Ireland, but her part was more ceremonial than anything, making a few appearances and putting in a few calls. She really did not do the hard work of bringing peace to Northern Ireland. She was only in a supportive role as First Lady. I think there was another candidate for President who got clobbered by the press for making more minimal claims of grandiosity... Al Gore. Clinton's claims are more serious exaggerations, yet the press is being very closed mouth about them. It is a shame, she does have those experiences but she is degrading them by spinning tales to make them seem like more than they were. And she can't discount Obama's speech on Iraq and then count her speech in China. I think Hillary shows that she is making very poor decisions about how to conduct her campaign, which makes me worry about how she will conduct foreign policy.
Posted by: Goldie | March 12, 2008 8:35 AM
maybe bill clinton did do a lot of great things as the president, but how does that relate to hillary?
i think hillary is a decent human being, but i don't doubt for a minute that she would do anything to win the election. including getting her cronies to insinuate that obama is muslim (and what's wrong with that? ever hear of the first amendment?) or hint at the race card to try to get him to call them out.
Posted by: amused | March 12, 2008 9:29 AM
I have to agree with the posters above who took you to task, Mary Ann, regarding your pretentious remark about Sinbad's career.
It's more attractive to be gracious and maybe even a little grateful to Sinbad for providing you with some very funny material.
Maybe if you had just said nothing it would have been an even better column.
Posted by: P | March 12, 2008 9:29 AM
Dras, you said "Sinbad isn't supporting Clinton for president, what a surprise.
He's an Obama guy, let's not kis ourselves, we all know why."
Really Dras? Do we all know why? I'm a 55 year old white woman and I'm for Obama and as much as I'm for Obama, I'm against the b.s. tactics of the Clintons. Yes, that's probably EXACTLY why Sinbad is for Obama. He's a white woman who despises racism.
I'll say this, no one can mobilize republicans to get out to vote like Hillary being the nominee and no one can mobilize more democrats that might not have voted otherwise - to vote for Barack Obama than Hillary and the racist remarks that slip from the lips of her, her husband and her supporters.
(Yes Hillary, we NOTICED when you wouldn't say Obama is not a muslim. You know he isn't and never has been. But you refused to say it. Tactics like that make it impossible for anyone but racists to vote for you.)
Posted by: Lollie Com | March 12, 2008 9:43 AM
Sinbad's angry that a white man is playing Obama? why? Obama is half white. besides, was Sinbad angry all those times Eddie Murphy played a WOMAN? That's no different. When a man puts on makeup, a wig, a dress and heels, and then caricatures a female's voice and gesture, that is a minstrel show too.
Posted by: ohbrother | March 12, 2008 10:16 AM
Sinbad's the man. Dude, I was still LIVING IN BOSNIA in 1996 and I can tell you for first hand experience that as far as getting shot by a sniper or killed by a mortar shell was very unlikely at that time. The war officially ended in 1995 after the Dayton Peace Accord was signed and all the armies were disassembled. If Hillary was worried of getting shot, that's because of a potential assassination attempt. Bosnia did NOT have the adequate security forces at that time to protect someone from sniper fire. Sinbad and Cheryl, on the other hand, had NOTHING to fear whatsoever.
Go Obama!
Posted by: Foreign Dude | March 12, 2008 10:25 AM
If all the Hillary spinners (not the entertainers) can come back with is whether or not Obama went to Bosnia before Sinbad is SAD. It would appear that while Obama is willing to prepare the ground for serious talks Rodham-Clinton is only willing to 'HIDE' behind HALF-TRUTHS.
Posted by: bahamasconservation4obama | March 12, 2008 10:28 AM
Cindy Sue, You asked for a list of accomplishments. You obviously haven't taken the time to find out. Here's an excellent comparison of Senators Clinton and Obama's work in the Senate: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
I don't have the Illinois senate record at hand, but it contained such things as getting health care for kids.
It strikes me as odd that someone who doesn't do her own research portrays a whole group of people as sheep.
Posted by: Nancie | March 12, 2008 10:33 AM
Not that I really care.
Has anyone asked if Sinbad would have been told anything of what was going on?
I can just see the briefing as the secret service sits everyone down and tells them what is going to happen.
"Mr. Sinbad, you take point in case the bullets start flying"
"okay.? Do I get a flack jacket? some crazed fan might want to shoot me."
"No jacket. We might give you a target for your chest. That is our deal with the Bosnians. It seems that they would prefer to shoot you that the First Lady."
Sinbad needs to get over himself. No one cares what he says or does. Big gun? Big dud!
Posted by: Rodney | March 12, 2008 10:35 AM
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I do not like your stance on immigration.
I do not like your stance on work visa guest worker programs.
I do not like your stance at all on the free trade policies.
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Posted by: William Landers | March 12, 2008 11:08 AM
swzr
That is the whole problem, there is nothing to look at for Obama.
That was why Daschle and Kennedy told him to run. Because he had done nothing in the senate and so had no record for anyone to question him on.
Anyone who has been in the public eye for as many years as Hillary Clinton has a record and of course there will be things that people find about her that are negative. She is not perfect, but she was willing to take a stand and fight for what she believed in. Barrack Obama was described by Senator Lindey Graham as follows "He folded like a cheap suit". This was on a bill that was bipartisan and that Barrack Obama a joined in the group worked on this bill. When it reached to floor where it faced challenges from interest groups, he distanced himself. Many on the committee said his move showed an unwillingness to take a tough stand.
Once he decided he might get to run for president he did as little as possible so that there was nothing he had commited to.
Anyone who votes for him would be willing to get in a plane with someone just becuase they had signed up for flying lessons but before they had actually had a lesson.
Posted by: cheryl | March 12, 2008 11:27 AM
KAM3
The link you provided is from the Obama web site. I would like information from a source that is a little more unbiased.
I found it interesting that on his page Barrack had a note written to the person who's name is at the top of the article telling him. You have to continue to fight against Hillary. Now I see why his followers, not all but some that I have dealt with are so confrontational on these blogs. He doesn't say try to inform or communicate or unite. He says FIGHT.
Anyway, I would prefer information from a more reliable source. That would be like me posting a reply from Hillary's web page.
Posted by: cheryl | March 12, 2008 11:49 AM
I copy and pasted the following post because I think it is worth reading.
Also: here is a link on Obama's great rise in the Senate.
Obama in Senate: Star power, minor role
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23540579/from/ET/
Hands-off First Lady"?
Instead of bringing up things about her husband to discredit her and refusing to give her any credit for her time as First Lady, you may wish to pause and check the facts. She took the initiative to reform health care although she was not an elected official at that time. The last time we saw that in a First Lady was Eleanor Roosevelt.
Eleanor Roosevelt supported the New Deal policies of her husband, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and assumed a role as an advocate for civil rights. She worked to enhance the status of working women although she opposed the Equal Rights Amendment because she believed it would adversely affect women. She supported the formation of the United Nations. Can you imagine the criticism she might have received for defying stereotype of women? Years later the only things we remember are her accomplishments and contribution to the World. This is what we will remember abot Hillary down the road: strong, intelligent, determined to do things for the American people, fought for human rights, children's issues, never backing down from criticism and insults. I saw the 3 a.m. ad. If it was done by McCain, you would still call him a fear-mongering candidate. I think the ad brought up a very valid point: we want someone who has solid experience to answer the phone call, not someone who is all talk and no action. I think people were upset because they don't like to be reminded of things they would rather not think about. But it's reality. People can't sweep it under the rug and pretend Obama can do everything and get it right the first time.
Posted by: | March 12, 2008 11:58 AM
Has anyone considered the possibility that Sinbad didn't have the sense to be scared while he was in Bosnia? Then there is the possibility that he spen











Sinbad for president - 2008. He has the experience that America needs.