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Kirk to DCU [updated]

I thought things were going to slow down this morning. So much for that.

A well-placed source tells me the Los Angeles Galaxy will send midfielder Quavas Kirk to D.C. United for the rights to veteran defender Greg Vanney.

Kirk, 19, appeared in 11 regular season matches (five starts) last year and started 10 times for the Galaxy in 2006. His primary position is on the right side of midfield, but his background was as a forward and he has also experimented at outside back.

On the surface, it appears to be a great trade for DCU, considering the club is only relinquishing the rights to a player past his prime. More details as they become available.

UPDATES: I have been told that Kirk, who was guaranteed $111,000 last season, will again be classified as a Generation Adidas player and not count against United's salary cap. ... Also, I hear this trade is unrelated to defender Jay Needham's workouts with the Galaxy. If L.A. wants to acquire his rights from DCU, it will be a separate deal. (The Galaxy would also have to negotiate with his current USL club, Puerto Rico.) ... Galaxy defender Ty Harden has unexpectedly left MLS for a non-soccer job. Read about it here and here.

By Steve Goff  |  February 15, 2008; 10:26 AM ET
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Comments

Here's hoping that Lalas acts very Lalas-like and overpays for Vanney.

Posted by: Section 130 | February 15, 2008 09:19 AM

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Hey, from my lips to Lalas' ears, too funny.

Posted by: Section 130 | February 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Justin Moose | February 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

thats a good addition...

Posted by: PKTaker | February 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

That is a nifty trade. Kirk has promise and Vanney wasn't even under contract.

Posted by: Fuego Fanatico | February 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

That certainly helps fill one of our biggest holes. Weren't people saying DC doesn't care about young American players?

Posted by: dwbpnm | February 15, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Is Kirk that big, fast dude on the right flank?

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 15, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Justin Moose | February 15, 2008 10:37 AM

Post of the thread.

Posted by: LOL | February 15, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Goff,

You're amazing! I know it's a little late, but will you be my valentine?

Posted by: strago | February 15, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps the FO isn't sold on Olsen getting back into the starting lineup anytime soon?

Posted by: iammrben | February 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

And now you can all add him to your MySpace page..ha ha

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=17353199

I have no idea if the link actually works, as it is blocked at the office...Nor Do I have a MySpace profile..this is the first result under a Google Search

Posted by: JonInVB | February 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Yea! A central defensive midfielder (at least I think he is.) I don't know much about the guy, but I loved the Conan/Max conversation last year on Late Night about how Kirk's midfield role might change when Beckham arrives. Classic Conan...

Posted by: Greifie | February 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The sky is definitely not falling.

Posted by: B.A | February 15, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

This guy is a stud who's big and can work like Gros. I believe that he was the guy who took the LAG role that Quaranta expected to fill, coincidentally given SI's earlier post today. This is good news.

Posted by: WNT fan | February 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I really like this. I'm not a huge fan of Quavas Kirk; but I'm also not a huge fan of Vanney. After the existing changes to the backline, this gives us some depth at a decent price.

Posted by: Bootsy | February 15, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Great! We have Kirk. When do we trade for Spock, Scotty, and Bones?


Oh hush. You knew it was coming.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 15, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Too make up for time missed last season I will now play across the entire midfield.

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Very excited about this move for DCU when we needed depth (or just someone) on the outside.

Posted by: sir beckham | February 15, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey what position does this guy play in the midfield.... Id love it if he could play wide right and holding midfield. Thoughts???

Posted by: sevillista hasta la muerte | February 15, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Kirk is a young (19),tall right-sided mid/defender who is a Generation Adidas player so he just takes up a developmental roster slot (Moose need not panic yet). He was a forward when he came into MLS and plays for the US U20 team.

Since Lalas traded Findley and Sturgis for Klein, a Kirk for Vanney trade continues the trend of young for old.

Good trade for DC.

Posted by: Zman | February 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Big AND fast? Potential target for Gallardo on set pieces maybe?

Posted by: Chico | February 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Well my good man...
He plays wide right and is fairly strong defensively.

Posted by: jgildea | February 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Great! We have Kirk. When do we trade for Spock, Scotty, and Bones?

Oh hush. You knew it was coming.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 15, 2008 10:57 AM
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Dude, this is a serious soccer thread. Please keep it serious, and only about soccer.

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 15, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Kirk turned into a super-star for the USMNT on my Football Manager 2007 game and it CAN'T be wrong.

Posted by: Sean M. | February 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I like it. A lot. I like Kirk's game and think he can add some much-needed youth and pace to an old team.

Posted by: I miss Eliseo Quintanilla | February 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

great deal on DCU's part! maybe gardner will turn out to be a keeper too and our flank issues will be solved (both at the galaxy's expense)

Posted by: pat | February 15, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Sounds good. When are we selling him to berlin?

Posted by: stairs | February 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

this is amazing all around. Kirk is probably really excited at this trade and he definitely fills gaps. I really, really like this move. He is, IIRC very speedy up and down the wing and commits defensively.

Posted by: DCAustinite | February 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Khhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn!

Posted by: Kirk | February 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Sounds good. When are we selling him to berlin?

Posted by: stairs | February 15, 2008 11:11 AM
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Ahahahahahahahh!

Posted by: DCAustinite | February 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Khhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn!
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I think SE and BB just figured out the chant to shout when he scores.

Posted by: DCAustinite | February 15, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

It really is too bad that we don't play Oliver Kahn. Maybe in a mid-season friendly against Bayern Munich. If Kahn stops Kirk's shot, you can guess what he will shout...

Posted by: Greifie | February 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Couldn't they have waited until after the trip to Hawaii to trade me?

Posted by: Quavas Kirk | February 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

So is he "Q3" now?

Posted by: Rob | February 15, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I love this move! This kid has given us trouble every time I've seen him at RFK. Great size and speed.

Posted by: DC | February 15, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

These quotes from an October 2, 2006 piece on Yanks Abroad after a game between LA and DCU:

"Matching up against the Energizer Bunny of the DC United midfield, Josh Gros, Kirk was a consistent threat on the offensive end of the AND, even more impressively, he managed to get back and help contain Gros on the defensive end."

"Think then of Quavas Kirk as the evolutionary Josh Gros, capable of not only patrolling the entirety of the right side of the midfield, but doing so with more athleticism, a larger frame, and hopefully in time, more skill."

http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=content&id=2222

Posted by: dcindc | February 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I haven't laughed this hard in while, fellas! Thanks for the lift.

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

We need midfielders and we got something worthwhile for Vanney. Pretty darned good. Maybe very darned good if some of my fellow posters are correct about his promise.

I like.

Posted by: Kire | February 15, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Great! We have Kirk. When do we trade for Spock, Scotty, and Bones?

Oh hush. You knew it was coming.
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Spock is uncommitted, though he does find the beautiful game "fascinating".

Scotty has competing offers from Celtic and from Rangers, so he's not likely to join MLS.

Quote from Bones: "Dammit, Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a withdrawn forward!"

Posted by: BaltoFan | February 15, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

If Lalas was on Star Trek, he would be Yeoman Dingdog in the red shirt who beams down on another planet, only to get whacked a moment later.

Posted by: Hoost | February 15, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile the most overrated yank abroad, is about to break the record for the highest transfer fee for an American player at $9m

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/2008/02/15/hamburg-brad-news-for-moyes-89520-20319908/

Posted by: bristol | February 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Kirk is really an out-and-out striker who got converted to playing out wide in the midfield and sometimes as an outside back. He's still raw but has alot of upside. I could see him as cover for Emilio but his soccer brain still needs more experience.

Posted by: Faraway_Fred | February 15, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I LOVE THIS TRADE!! And what the @%&# is Lalas thinking?!? WOW. Just wow.... Incredible off-season for United :)

Posted by: grumpy | February 15, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I think DCU did well in this trade. There's no downside to having Kirk, even if he fails. He's young, he's GA, he sometimes plays with the U-20's...

He's not really that good, I have to say as a Galaxy fan, but he could get better. He's not going to start anytime soon. He currently has the first touch of a chainsaw, the vision of a blind squirrel, and the passing ability of a 50-year old accountant, but he's only 19 and all these things can be improved with hard work and good coaching.

I think the general mediocrity of the Galaxy front office continues to show through here. Yes, they have defensive draft pick up the ying-yang, but how many of those guys are going to stay? In the meantime you've got Vanney, Xavier, and Babayaro who are all either almost 30 or over 30 playing in the back. Plus almost no young attacking players.

I am consistently impressed with the DCU front office and though this is a fairly small deal overall it is emblematic of their ability to drive hard bargains that pay off. Hats off to Payne et al.

Over here in LA someone needs to figure out how to bring Doug Hamilton back to life.

Posted by: Nathanhj | February 15, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile the most overrated yank abroad, is about to break the record for the highest transfer fee for an American player at $9m

Bristol, jealousy is just an awful thing.

Posted by: Coach Bob | February 15, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Kirk is really an out-and-out striker who got converted to playing out wide in the midfield and sometimes as an outside back.

Posted by: Faraway_Fred | February 15, 2008 11:41 AM
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Hit 20something goals in 50something caps for the U17s, so presumably he's got some skills.

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 15, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

This has the potential to be a great deal - a young American with lots of upside!

He was part of the reason the Galaxy tore us up at home 2 seasons ago (along with Donovan realizing the World Cup was over so he could play well again and Quaranta's crotch-grabbing gestures).

http://dcunited.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20060826&content_id=70513&vkey=news_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103

Man, the Galaxy are getting old! A young guy quits so they trade another young guy for 33-year-old Vanney!

Posted by: garbaggio | February 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I agree -- funniest thread in quite some time. I start thinking of the Dana Carvey SNl skit when he played Kahn, whenver I hear the KKKAAAAHHNNNNNNNN!!

Posted by: steve-o | February 15, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

If you look at Kirk's Myspace page, Preston Zimmerman leaves a comment about half-way down. All those teenage Americans love their Myspace.

Posted by: Pete | February 15, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

SG - Any chance that LA tries to include getting Needham's rights as part of this Kirk-Vanney deal since he is in the Gal's camp and they just lost a young CB (Harden) to retirement to the business world ?

Posted by: Eric Z | February 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who coins the nickname "Oatmeal" for now-RBNY rival Jozy Altidore can't be half-bad.

Posted by: silentbob | February 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Bradley is a lot of things, but overrated is not one of them. He's already had the 6th best all-time season of any d-mid in the Erdivisie, and he's still got 10 games left. Also, he's 20. Also, he's doing this with Heerenveen, and with all due respect to our Frislander friends, is not Ajax, Feyenoord or PSV.

Either Everton or Bundesliga is the antural and smart move to his career.

Posted by: DCAustinite | February 15, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

So is he "Q3" now?

Posted by: Rob | February 15, 2008 11:21 AM


I was thinking something more along the lines of "James T." or "Captain"

Posted by: Kirk | February 15, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

6 simple words:

I'm not gay, but I'll learn.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | February 15, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey MJ

Here's something simple for you.

DC United
Domestic
MLS Cup:
Winners (4): 1996, 1997, 1999,2004
Runners-up (1): 1998
MLS Supporters' Shield:
Winners (4): 1997, 1999, 2006,2007
Runners-up (1): 1998
US Open Cup:
Winners (1): 1996
Runners-up (1): 1997
International
CONCACAF Champions' Cup:
Winners (1): 1998
Third place (3): 1997, 1999, 2007
CONCACAF Giants Cup:
Runners-up (1): 2001
InterAmerican Cup:
Winners (1): 1998

Jersey Vermilion Heifers
Domestic
US Open Cup:
Runners-up (1): 2003
International
La Manga Cup:
Winners (1): 2004

Posted by: LW | February 15, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

poetry:

currently has the first touch of a chainsaw

Posted by: line of the day | February 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

When Kirk retires--can we draft a Picard?

Posted by: John | February 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Hi, my name is Mastodon Juan, and my jealousy of all things DC United is more glaring than the 13ft Pink Elephant in the middle of the room."

Mastodon Juan, the 2nd least popular MJ in the DC Area. If you have to ask who the least popular MJ is, give Kwame Brown a call (the worst #1 pick ever, not the councilman).

Posted by: AlecW81 | February 15, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"Over here in LA someone needs to figure out how to bring Doug Hamilton back to life."

Not to tread on the dead, but while DH was the one who built that fabulous 2001 Miami team, he also was the one who hired Steve Sampson. I'm willing to give Bravo and Ruuuuuuuud a chance this year before waxing poetic about 2004-2005...

Posted by: Anonymous | February 15, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

the big question is: what kind of name is Quavas?

cuevas in spanish means caves - maybe he is working for Carmen Santiago and is fond of spelunking?

I love the Western Conference - we should trade with them more often

Posted by: diego r. | February 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Scotty has competing offers from Celtic and from Rangers, so he's not likely to join MLS.
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Or he could go to the USL club in Vancouver, from whence he came. (Now if Montreal got an expansion team, would they go after Kirk?)

Posted by: 22201 | February 15, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Does Kirk have any Olympic prospects? On the verge of the big two-oh, he would be a bit younger than most of the squad (apart from Freddy and Jozy), but he will be too old for the 2012 Games.

Posted by: 22201 | February 15, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile the most overrated yank abroad, is about to break the record for the highest transfer fee for an American player at $9m

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/2008/02/15/hamburg-brad-news-for-moyes-89520-20319908/

Posted by: bristol | February 15, 2008 11:39 AM
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I agree that he lacks the quickness to re-create his success in a better league and lacks the creativity to recreate his success on another team, but I am also happy for him if he can find a solid situation for himself. I just hope he doesn't end up somewhere where the expectations are much greater than his ability. That could make this wonderful season a negative for him in the long run.

Back on topic, I will be interested to see how Kirk mixes in with our latin players. If he is going to develop offensively, this is the club to do it on.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 15, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 22201 | February 15, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

dcindc -- Thanks for that post - reminder of Kirk's history with DCU. I was at the game -- I imagine most of us were. Memorable in part because of truly horrible officiating, and a horrific tackle that broke Mediate's leg without even drawing a whistle, or a card. But, Kirk played a very good game. United couldn't deal with his speed. I'd forgotten about the game. Thanks.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | February 15, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Wait.

All these trades seem to be going to well. There's got to be a catch.

Posted by: Matt | February 15, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

man, you guys are quick on the wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quavas_Kirk

Posted by: smith | February 15, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Red Bulls won "The Sleeve"? Really?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | February 15, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Kirk likes to wear "23" and admires MJ? Won't endear him here, will it?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | February 15, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Fisch Fry - it's Beckham that admires MJ...not Kirk.

Posted by: DE | February 15, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

LA has salary cap problems and deals a cap-protected player for a 30-something defender with a heavy salary - what's wrong with this picture ????????????

Posted by: rkupp | February 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

the big question is: what kind of name is Quavas?

Posted by: diego r. | February 15, 2008 12:39 PM
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There was a thread on Big Soccer in which someone said that he was considering getting capped by the T&T MNT and that USSF people took him to the woodshed and kept him from doing so. So, I imagine he must have some kind of family Caribbean connection.

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 15, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Typical Galaxy -- give up on a guy right as he's about to get good. Congrats, DC!

Posted by: JJH | February 15, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Ty Harden - a casualty of small dollars.

Posted by: CBA | February 15, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes, Fisch Fry is yet another victim of reading poor writing on Wikipedia. I read that bit about 7 vs. 23 and thought people might think that it was about Kirk and not Beckham. Watch your pronouns Wikipedia people!

Posted by: Greifie | February 15, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

It was bad enough that we are losing good players to Europe but now they are leaving for non-soccer jobs. Our league is just becoming more of a joke daily. The folks in overseas would laugh if they knew we exisited.

Posted by: tex | February 15, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Great addition. With our recent defensive signings we can afford to loose Vanney. I was impressed with Kirk when I saw him play at U-17 World Cup. He is slim but long and fast, he is great in the air and smooth with the ball at his feet. He will be solid for United, DC has the best front office in MLS.

Posted by: Travio15 | February 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"Jersey Vermilion Heifers"


LOL LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: Rocko | February 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Payne et. al swindle yet another team of a valuable resource. A young, talented player, who for at least this season doesn't count towards the cap. One would like to think that there is some sort of method to Alexi's madness, but right now he's giving Mo Johnston a good name.

Posted by: owendylan | February 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the potential news about a new DP?

Posted by: Nic | February 15, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, shouldn't the Revs be going after Spock?

Posted by: 22201 | February 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the potential news about a new DP?

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Still no word. As soon as I hear something, I will share it here.

Posted by: Goff | February 15, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Justin Moose - should you be at practice or something?? heh

Posted by: bobf | February 15, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

This is a good move, but I think some of us might want to reign it in a bit. Kirk is very inconsistent, and as Nathanhj said, has no touch. He is tall, but that doesn't make him a threat on set pieces (ask pre-concussion Gros, who actually stayed outside the box on many corners). Kirk's speed is far and away his best asset, but he has a lot of work to do as far as touch, vision, positioning, and other very important things go. I hate to play the spoiler, but the best thing about this trade is that we got a GA player for the rights to Vanney despite everyone in MLS knowing he would not be playing here.

Our moves outside MLS, for Martinez, Peralta, Niell, and Gallardo, are still unknowns to a certain extent. Our moves within MLS (DP slot, 1st round pick, Kirk) have been great. Is anyone else noticing that our front office is preying on MLS's weak? LA's front office under Lalas has proven to be idiocy in motion, while Colorado is perhaps the league's ideal representative of historical mediocrity. I figure our brain trust's next trick will be to find a way to trade the rights to Justin Moose to Toronto for BMO Field to be air-lifted and set down in Poplar Point, or maybe bring in Beckerman or Findley from RSL by offering up a bag of "magic" balls.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Tex, take it easy. Yes this guy apparently had alot of potential and his small salary probably weighed into his decision but you can't know what his issues are with the game or why he decided to hang it up. Sure, the tiny developmental and rookie salaries are now a real issue for MLS. This has been discussed alot on this blog. But stop blaming MLS for every player that opts out of the league. The fact is that its a big market and there are hundreds of teams looking for talent all the time. The U.S. happens to be a growing market for young talent and the rest of the world has now discovered that because we are producing skilled footballers.

Posted by: sbg | February 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the news Goff. Just so you know, I might never finish my dissertation if you keep up the fantastic reporting. It's like crack for soccer fans!

Posted by: Nic | February 15, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER DCU DP??? get out!!

WHO???

Posted by: bobf | February 15, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

we got caron butler for kwame, i love kwame, thank you for sucking, great pick

Posted by: kwame Brown | February 15, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Glad to hear the news about Kirk joining the Black and Red. A young, cap protected, American, outside mid for an older, slower, expensive, center back is a great deal for us.

But this line still makes my day:

"It would also be delusional, though, to think the club would have been better off retaining the erratic Erpen."

Love ya Goff

Posted by: smiling in Florida | February 15, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Yypical Galaxy -- give up on a guy right as he's about to get good. Congrats, DC!

Posted by: JJH | February 15, 2008 01:40 PM
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LOL, the trend is disturbingly evident:
Razov, Mathis, Ching, Mullan, Ruiz, Sturgis, Findley ...

Posted by: Faraway_Fred | February 15, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss! This is a GREAT trade! I am really high on Kirk - he's big he's fast, he's young, and he plays on the flanks, where we could use some help. And we apparently traded him for Vanney, whom we weren't going to use anyway. This is an absolute heist.

For those of you who remember the 5-3 Galaxy win at RFK two years ago, Kirk was the guy who burned us down the right flank for the whole second half.

Posted by: Jeff M | February 15, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the casual misread. Still, it's a great trade, giving us much needed depth, especially on the heels (Or ankles ) of the news about Benny.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | February 15, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER DCU DP??? get out!!

WHO???
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To clarify from a posting a day or two ago, another mls team is trying to secure a DP. I was hoping to hear by the end of the week, but so far, nothing.

Posted by: Goff | February 15, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

We should trade the DP slot for Maykel Galindo.

Posted by: la_chingada | February 15, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I am ecstatic about this move. Kirk is going to do well in United's style of play and we didn't need to go to South America for the speedy winger we needed! And he doesn't count against the cap!? Sweet Creamry Butter!

Posted by: Anonymous | February 15, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to dcindc for digging up that article from Yanks Abroad. As the writer of that piece, a Soccer Insider regular, and DCU supporter since the first kick, I couldn't be more thrilled with this deal. Cover for Ben if his injuries persist. More size, speed, and height. Potential long term replacement for Ben.

That it comes at the expense of the Galaxy is just icing on the cake.

Posted by: Neal | February 15, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

SG - Is another MLS team trying to [1]secure a DP spot (i.e. Chicago/Chivas - need to acquire it from another team) or [2] secure a DP player but already has the DP spot for him(i.e. Houston - which had the bad rumor that it might get Feilhaber despite numerous times that Oliver Luck said that a DP was not in their plans).

Posted by: Oliver | February 15, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Yypical Galaxy -- give up on a guy right as he's about to get good. Congrats, DC!

Posted by: JJH | February 15, 2008 01:40 PM
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LOL, the trend is disturbingly evident:
Razov, Mathis, Ching, Mullan, Ruiz, Sturgis, Findley ...
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Burch

Posted by: Anonymous | February 15, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Harden was not good enough to start for an MLS Cup challenger. He just looked decent last year because he had so much to do and did some of it well. Vanney's old but should be an upgrade.

Posted by: Bundt | February 15, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

good riddance to Harden. Isn't he the punk that stomped on the Aussie dude's hand or arm in their match vs. Sydney FC, not to mention kicking Ben when they played here?

Kind of fun to see that Xavier is struggling too. I love seeing the LA ship sink farther and farther. Landon would probably be thrilled if he could escape to SJ at this point.

Posted by: Glenn | February 15, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

$111k in this league is rare for a 19-year-old, isn't it? I wonder if the Galaxy was extended a Special Cap Dispensation from MLS along with a Samsonite Supplemental Budgetary Bridge Funding Package to make the numbers work . . .

Posted by: gringo | February 15, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

SG - Is another MLS team trying to [1]secure a DP spot (i.e. Chicago/Chivas - need to acquire it from another team) or [2] secure a DP player but already has the DP spot for him(i.e. Houston - which had the bad rumor that it might get Feilhaber despite numerous times that Oliver Luck said that a DP was not in their plans).

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A team is actively trying to sign a DP. I don't know the team or the player, but was hoping for more info today. Still waiting...

Posted by: Goff | February 15, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Gringo, as a GA player, Quevas' salary didn't count against the cap.

Posted by: AlecW81 | February 15, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

RE: Ty Harden

Bear in mind also that people do change and that the life of a professional athlete isn't for everybody.

While I agree that salaries are still deplorable, professional athletes do quit for other reasons.

As a comparison, if I had to do college all over again, I'd probably forgo my 4-year Div I NCAA athletic experience (not soccer). I'd have gotten a higher GPA, more research experience, more girls, and more beer drunk.

Posted by: viv | February 15, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

A team is actively trying to sign a DP. I don't know the team or the player, but was hoping for more info today. Still waiting...

Posted by: Goff | February 15, 2008 03:39 PM
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I feel like speculating.

= the international transfer window is closed so it must be a player out of contract with his former team or someone already in MLS.

= it's not Ronaldo.

= it's not Messi, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard, Henry, or any of the Coles.

= it's not Quaranta, Harden, or Gros.

= it's Eddie Lewis.

= it's not Eddie Lewis. It's Jerry Lewis, Shari Lewis (DP=deceased puppeteer), or Lambchop.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 15, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Kirk looked good against us 2 years ago, but I guess it hasn't occurred to anyone that Gros, like virtually our entire team that day, had a terrible game. And it was 2 years ago, in a game that was much more an aberration than anything else! If you guys really remember that game so well, then you should remember that Donovan had one of his best games in an MLS uniform that night. That was much more the reason they got 5 against us than the fact that Kirk outpaced Gros.

Kirk is a player with lots of potential (especially with players like Gallardo, Fred, and Moreno looking to make use of his speed), but he was also just given up on by LA. Has anyone noticed the lack of Galaxy fans gnashing their teeth over losing Kirk?

Like I said before, I think it's a good move to get a player that's young, fast, tall, and cap-exempt, especially since I figured we were going to get peanuts for Vanney. However, I also think that he will spend a lot of time battling Domenic Mediate (and now, possibly his former teammate Josh Gardner) to be our first-choice sub on the wings. It's a good deal, but it's not Wegerle-for-Lassiter.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 15, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a good move, but I think some of us might want to reign it in a bit. Kirk is very inconsistent, and as Nathanhj said, has no touch. He is tall, but that doesn't make him a threat on set pieces (ask pre-concussion Gros, who actually stayed outside the box on many corners). Kirk's speed is far and away his best asset, but he has a lot of work to do as far as touch, vision, positioning, and other very important things go. I hate to play the spoiler, but the best thing about this trade is that we got a GA player for the rights to Vanney despite everyone in MLS knowing he would not be playing here.

Our moves outside MLS, for Martinez, Peralta, Niell, and Gallardo, are still unknowns to a certain extent. Our moves within MLS (DP slot, 1st round pick, Kirk) have been great. Is anyone else noticing that our front office is preying on MLS's weak? LA's front office under Lalas has proven to be idiocy in motion, while Colorado is perhaps the league's ideal representative of historical mediocrity. I figure our brain trust's next trick will be to find a way to trade the rights to Justin Moose to Toronto for BMO Field to be air-lifted and set down in Poplar Point, or maybe bring in Beckerman or Findley from RSL by offering up a bag of "magic" balls.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 15, 2008 02:19 PM


Ah Rockwell. The voice of reason as always.

Let's temper the expectations a bit here. Kirk should be good depth behind Olsen, but I don't see him as being the all star that a lot of people are making him out to be. He can compete with Mediate for the role of starting right mid when Olsen is injured or carded (both of which happen way too often).

Posted by: DCUMD | February 15, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Has this been discussed? | February 15, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

sports.si has nothing new except archived from other news articles.

Posted by: td | February 15, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Guys

I think this is a great trade for depth. Kirk is a project with upside similar to that of a Brian Mullen and who is already better than Stephen DeRoux. If nothing else, he gives us great cover as a more attacking right-back or right-wing in games when we start McTavish or Mediate in midfield.

And as a GenAd guy, he still lets us build depth on the actual senior roster. There is nothing like having a guy who can help us tear it up in the Reserve League and who can also give us actual, serious depth at the first team level when we have a few guys out with dings or with the national team or when we are playing 4 games in 10 days.

DC is parlaying its out-of-contract players into stuff that is more valuable than I could have imagined.

Posted by: Liverpool_SC | February 15, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

... consider that NE let Noonan and Dorman walk for nothing (and has not even gotten anything out of the Dempsey trade yet)

... and DC has parlayed Adu, Gomez and Vanney into mucho dinero, future considerations, a 2nd round draft pick, a first round draft pick, squatter's rights to a DP (allegedly) and another USMNT youth star ...

Plus ... despite our 'terrible' draft record, we have young American talent such as McTavish, Burch, Carroll v2 and v3, etc emerging on our team.

Posted by: Liverpool_SC | February 15, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Goff, how many years of GA status does Kirk have left?

Posted by: dwbpnm | February 15, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Very happy with this. The guy isn't sudden answer, but can be a real threat outside and as a backup or third forward.
And couldn't be happier with what the front office has done. Can only imagine this being better if they took someone from NYRB.
This prospects for this year just keep getting better and better. All we need is for Ben to get healthy.

__________________________
Quote from Bones: "Dammit, Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a withdrawn forward!"

Love that.

Posted by: DCUinCT | February 15, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

"LOL, the trend is disturbingly evident:
Razov, Mathis, Ching, Mullan, Ruiz, Sturgis, Findley ..."

Ruiz's best days were in LA....

Posted by: Alex | February 15, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Great news! Kirk had a fantastic game at RFK recently. He's big, fast, and strong. I like the addition.

Posted by: jj | February 15, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

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