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ush, Cheney and neocons like McCain and Co. had long ago turned this nation over to the Bin Ladens and their Saudi masters. Why do you think gasoline is pushing up to $4/G and beyond so quickly.

They conveniently placed the U.S treasury into the pockets of their friends and supporters, and our good old dollar bills cheapened to the point that taxi drivers in Cuba prefer Euros instead of Dollars.

The Federal Reserve in NYC in 2003-2005 could not ship out enough truckloads of 100 dollar bills into the quicksand quagmire war in Iraq snookered on us all by Bush/Cheney and neocons like McCain and Co

On 911, I lived in NYC. It was mostly Saudis NOT Afghani Talibans who were first reportedly blamed for doing us over on 911 in NYC.

On that most fateful day, gas prices were predicted to go up by a gas station camera nearby the Pentagon.

NY1, a reputable cable news network in NYC, last year showed a video grab from that gas station camera next to the Pentagon on 911.

That video (more important than any videos of Rev. Wright tirade or HRC and Chelsea under NO sniper fire) showed an explosion had suddenly occurred without the presence of any plane hitting the Pentagon that day.

The video was obtained through freedom of information act, the Bush/Cheney/McCain administration fought mightily to prevent the release of that video.

This is not a conspiracy theory, just actualities of a conspiracy. Clinton, Obama or Jane, Joe American none can NOT be any less patriotic than Bush, Cheney but forget NOT ultra warmonger McCain, it is in his blood.

ush, Cheney and neocons like McCain and Co. had long ago turned this nation over to the Bin Ladens and their Saudi masters. Why do you think gasoline is pushing up to $4/G and beyond so quickly.

They conveniently placed the U.S treasury into the pockets of their friends and supporters, and our good old dollar bills cheapened to the point that taxi drivers in Cuba prefer Euros instead of Dollars.

The Federal Reserve in NYC in 2003-2005 could not ship out enough truckloads of 100 dollar bills into the quicksand quagmire war in Iraq snookered on us all by Bush/Cheney and neocons like McCain and Co

On 911, I lived in NYC. It was mostly Saudis NOT Afghani Talibans who were first reportedly blamed for doing us over on 911 in NYC.

On that most fateful day, gas prices were predicted to go up by a gas station camera nearby the Pentagon.

NY1, a reputable cable news network in NYC, last year showed a video grab from that gas station camera next to the Pentagon on 911.

That video (more important than any videos of Rev. Wright tirade or HRC and Chelsea under NO sniper fire) showed an explosion had suddenly occurred without the presence of any plane hitting the Pentagon that day.

The video was obtained through freedom of information act, the Bush/Cheney/McCain administration fought mightily to prevent the release of that video.

This is not a conspiracy theory, just actualities of a conspiracy. Clinton, Obama or Jane, Joe American none can NOT be any less patriotic than Bush, Cheney but forget NOT ultra warmonger McCain, waging wars is in his blood.

READ THIS:

Bush, Cheney and neocons like McCain and Co. had long ago turned this nation over to the Bin Ladens and their Saudi masters. Why do you think gasoline is pushing up to $4/G and beyond so quickly.

They conveniently placed the U.S treasury into the pockets of their friends and supporters, and our good old dollar bills cheapened to the point that taxi drivers in Cuba prefer Euros instead of Dollars.

The Federal Reserve in NYC in 2003-2005 could not ship out enough truckloads of 100 dollar bills into the quicksand quagmire war in Iraq snookered on us all by Bush/Cheney and neocons like McCain and Co

On 911, I lived in NYC. It was mostly Saudis NOT Afghani Talibans who were first reportedly blamed for doing us over on 911 in NYC.

On that most fateful day, gas prices were predicted to go up by a gas station camera nearby the Pentagon.

NY1, a reputable cable news network in NYC, last year showed a video grab from that gas station camera next to the Pentagon on 911.

That video (more important than any videos of Rev. Wright tirade or HRC and Chelsea under NO sniper fire) showed an explosion had suddenly occurred without the presence of any plane hitting the Pentagon that day.

The video was obtained through freedom of information act, the Bush/Cheney/McCain administration fought mightily to prevent the release of that video.

This is not a conspiracy theory, just actualities of a conspiracy. Clinton, Obama or Jane, Joe American none can NOT be any less patriotic than Bush, Cheney but forget NOT ultra warmonger McCain, it is in his blood.

You know, it's so funny that comments like the "SunnyGirl" thing that is like 3rd from the top wil get tons of play on this site and others while posts like mine here will get very little because we come to the game a little later than the rabble rousers.

Let me do this in caps, in an effort to get noticed (and please understand that I'm not yelling at anyone or yelling per se, though I suppose I am certainly trying to raise my voice):

THE COMMENTS OF JEREMIAH WRIGHT HAVE BEEN TAKEN ENTIRELY OUT OF CONTEXT! LIKE WHEN HE SAYS THAT "AMERICA'S CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST," HE'S ACTUALLY QUOTING A WHITE, EVANGELICAL PREACHER, SOMEONE LIKE PAT BUCHANAN OR SOME GUY FROM THE 700 CLUB!

The fact is this, people: if you take these comments completely out of their context, you won't understand them at all, and you may indeed find them disturbing. However, if you put them back into context, you might actually find yourself agreeing with the good Reverend.

Try context, you might like it. I mean, look at what happened to Hillary when we put her comments about going to Tuzla Air Base into context--she was found to be an outright liar. Where is the stuff about how that matters in this election?

For a start America has a wicked racial past. Generations to come will have to deal with these problems if current leadership breeze thru their terms warring overseas without cleaning what is inside their own backyards. Is there another leader out there in this presidential fight that can make a stand on this issue. No. Give Obama a break. If you think this is an easy road you give it a try and see how your ideas gel with the nation. It is too easy to judge when you are sitting in the comforts of your own homes.

OBAMA -DRAMA TERRORIST TIES

http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=8310

Yep your vote for him will destroy your country !!

Sunny Girl,
Watching those videos you posted did nothing but make me sad. Oh, and also a little nauseous: The part where he quotes "America's chickens are coming home to roost" (in reference to 9/11) and the audience LAUGHS and CLAPS is truly disturbing. As fellow Americans, I would expect those audience members who agreed with what he was saying to behave in a more appropriate way. I get Wright's point about karma (which is essentially what he means) and don't necessarily disagree with it, but I don't find it something to laugh and clap about. The laughing and clapping shows me that the audience felt like the "evil (white) Americans" got what was coming to them. But aren't they supposed to be Americans, like us? So, how is that funny?

Hatred is hatred, no matter the color. And while I think Obama's speech about race was lovely, no one that I know who is horrified by Wright is horrified because of anything have to do with race. We are horrified by the incredibly poor judgment of someone who claims to be a unifier, but claims the spewer of this garbage to be his "spritiual guide". I've gotten up and walked out of church services for far less than this kind of vitriol. It's alarming.

With over 1,600 posts on every newspaper board in the nation, it's clear who "Cyberella" is working for. Just google "Cyberella" and "Obama". You will find the answer:

www.jtf.org

"Cyberella" is a KACH terrorist sympathizer. This party founded by the late Meri Kahane has been banned and repudiated by the Israeli Knesset.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080324/alterman

Some of you may not like Obama, but why do you need to listen to a terrorist sympathizer to justify your opinion?

I can't believe Senator Obama would have gone to his church for over two decades and not have known his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, was preaching sermons with a subtext of anti-white vitriol and not have taken issue with his pastor's hatemongering rhetoric years ago. Republican or Democrat, it should not matter what side of the political aisle you're from. I would have been offended if I would have been at Senator Obama's church with my family and grand-kids while Senator Obama's pastor made obscene sexual gyrations while explaining Monica Lewinsky's encounter with former US President Bill Clinton and blurting off GOD DAMN AMERICA. At best, that's the kind of stuff one would expect to hear at an adult comedy club.

From the reading of the blogs and commments all over the website, I am completely confused by the ignorance and the hatred of people. #1 CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT, I'll be the first to say Rev. Wright's comments were extreme....but please it was a sound bite, it does not represent everything that man or his church stands for. Being a teacher, speaking in front of students all day, I Know there have been things I've said that have been extreme and misplaced, but that does not make me less of a teacher, because believe it or not America we are not perfect and we all have our less than stellar moments as Rev. Wright has had.....#2-Rev. Wright is not running for President, Barack Obama is. Just because he attends a church with a Preacher who has extreme political views does not mean he accepts those views. Last time I checked I went to church for the spiritual not the political. While the political does get mixed with the spiritual, the SPIRITUAL is NUMERO UNO(#1) I believe what OBama was saying in his speech is that he saw the good(spiritual) in Rev. Wright and his church (b/c believe it or not the preacher is not the only reason why people attend a church, church is about the fellowship of believers)The fact that Obama can see the good and still reject the bad speaks volumes to his personal and political strengths. I believe people have to shift away from the distractions, and let it go. There are too many real issues(Economy-possible recession, 4,000 soldiers dead in Iraq)that need our dire attention!

I have a comment on the fact that republicans can justify crossing over to allow Mrs. Clinton to win primary votes. Hillary has a direct appeal to those who want to see her lose against McCain. Plus, with the superdelegates mimicking the electoral college maybe her comments on doing away with the electoral college during her initial 2000 senate race should come to light: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507E2D81538F932A25752C1A9669C8B63
How does she justify reliance on superdelegates when she is in favor of popular vote only on a national scale?
Hope you vote your conscience, not some chessboard strategy: since it is not about an affection for pitting the fight its an actual vote, republicans!

I think that this religious fruitcake has a point however, this nonsense is overshadowing what is really important. Obamas relationship with Rezcko which smacks of corruption.

I' sick and tired of the race issue. I am a share cropper's child; worked on the farm from the age of 7 picking & pulling cotton and lived in an unpainted house with ten brothers, sisters and parents, without electricity or running water. Walked miles to school house, wearing hand-me-downs or flour sack clothes. I as a child felt inferior but I got over it; it made me a better person. I worked very hard, studied and have the American Dream. All races should know what counts in life: family, religion, HARD WORD and education. You can have all of these with little money, but you must be wise and use your brain.

Barack Obama's church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas.!!
Rev. Wright gave it a new title, "A Fresh View of the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi Struggle."
There is no doubt that by reprinting this Hamas manifesto on the church bulletin, Wright supports this terror group.
The article
1.defended terrorism as LEGITIMATE resistance,
2.refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist
3.compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence!!
The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright . Google Obama's church, pastor's page, July 22, 2007)
Marzook, the author of this article, is a known terrorist and created an extensive Hamas network in the United States

Hamas is responsible for multiple acts of terrorist including suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian populations. It is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S.

Esraeli security officials have expressed concern about Robert Malley, AN ADVISER TO OBAMA, who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

Barack Obama cannot just say "I didn't" know on this. And a "great speech" won't do either.
Obama is compromised on so many different levels that he simply cannot be trusted. His middle name should no longer be ignored. (well, didn't he say "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people"? If you don't believe this, Google the statement. Didn't he say in Audacity of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims?")

Barack Hussein Abdul al-Majid al-Obama for President of The United States! LOL
Un-freakin'-believable!!!

Go to:
http://tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july22.pdf
Scroll down to page 10
__________________
As a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation.

Never forget:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Barack Obama's church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas.!!
Rev. Wright gave it a new title, "A Fresh View of the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi Struggle."
There is no doubt that by reprinting this Hamas manifesto on the church bulletin, Wright supports this terror group.
The article
1.defended terrorism as LEGITIMATE resistance,
2.refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist
3.compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence!!
The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright . Google Obama's church, pastor's page, July 22, 2007)
Marzook, the author of this article, is a known terrorist and created an extensive Hamas network in the United States

Hamas is responsible for multiple acts of terrorist including suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian populations. It is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S.

Esraeli security officials have expressed concern about Robert Malley, AN ADVISER TO OBAMA, who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

Barack Obama cannot just say "I didn't" know on this. And a "great speech" won't do either.
Obama is compromised on so many different levels that he simply cannot be trusted. His middle name should no longer be ignored. (well, didn't he say "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people"? If you don't believe this, Google the statement. Didn't he say in Audacity of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims?")

Barack Hussein Abdul al-Majid al-Obama for President of The United States! LOL
Un-freakin'-believable!!!

Go to:
http://tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july22.pdf
Scroll down to page 10
__________________
As a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation.

Never forget:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Mr. Obama carries double standards to the front of the pack. His making excuses for his anti-american preacher, stating you had to understand when he grew up as an excuse--this is not an excuse for racist whites and should not be accepted from a racist black.

Mr. Obama joined that church to get in touch with his black roots and to learn christianity, and both of these over the last twenty years he has "learned" from Rev. Wright. Why would you stay a member of a church for twenty years if you did not agree with your christian "mentor".

You hear constantly of Mr. Obama being brought up in a single parent home-a single influential parent that was obviously anti-american. So he basically went from his single white anti-american parent home, and then into a black racist anti american church. You can see where his influence has come from for 40 years of his life.

So, using Mr. Obama's excuse on himself, you have to excuse him for being a racist half black that is anti american. Based on his thinking you excuse Rev. Wright and condemn his grandmother for her fear of blacks.

I truly wish people would listen to what is being said, and how it is said, and quit being mesmerized by the possibility of electing the first "half black" man, and I call him "half Black" rather than "half White" as he does so himself.

I think this incident shows a portion of Mr. Obama's true "colors" on how he will treat this country's people "equally" should he be elected.

I read the posts here. Those who say Barack is half-white so how could he be racist? Have you looked at Rev Wright lately? He looks half-white too, doesn't stop him from being racist.

Some of you say Obama has shown courage? How? Courage would be leaving that church and denouncing that pastor. If I saw a video of my pastor saying, "God damn America", I would leave. If I was in the church and heard it, instead of patting him on the back, like some of those people did, I'd punch him in the face.

And Goldie, you've neen posting the same old crap about some religious group Hillary belongs to for days. Why don't you give us a link to it? Or shut up.

And as for the "great speech". A politically expedient speech written over a three day period and delivered from a teleprompter just don't do it for me. Especially when it leads me to conclude that I'm somehow the reason Rev Wright hates America. Barack's grandma must be a character if she's the equivalent of Rev Wright. Oh, and Geraldine Ferraro too.

You could not torture me enough to cast a vote for Obama.

To all Obama supporters who want to attack others for his lack of judgement and courage please remember:

The Clintons and the McCains have ALWAYS been proud of America. They did not attend a KKK church for 20 years. They did not have the Imperial Wizard marry them or baptize their children. They did not take their children to listen to the Imperial Wizard spout hatred so they could grow up to be good little racists like mommy and daddy.

I served this country for 24 years and I've been proud of it since I immigrated here 44 years ago. I've been all over the world and no people are as blessed as the American people.

You could not torture me enough to cast a vote for Barack Obama.

allen duffis: i stopped reading your post when i came to the iraq war.
FYI
obama was not in the u.s. senate when the vote was taken on h.j.res. 114. he took office in jan., 2005 nearly 2 full years after American troops invaded iraq.
obama may have been against the "war" as we all were and still are but he DID NOT VOTE FOR OR AGAINST BECAUSE HE WAS NOT A
U.S. SENATOR AT THE TIME.

Dear Nancy:

There was a time when I once worried and fretted a lot over possible out comes in this election but, then, I suddenly remembered how powerful the truth really is and it occurred to me that when the last vote is counted in the general election, the necked truth about America, not Obama, Clinton or McCain, will be left standing on its own and we, all of us regardless of skin tone, voice, gender or socio-economic class, will "lean with it and rock with it" just as we have always done; AND, we will be a little closer to perfection just as Obama said we would and I for one shall be happy; AND, I hope that you will to.

Maia Ajanaku
Memphis, TN

There is a reason for some on the right to vote for Hillary as Rush suggests. Aside from McCain looming as a war-hawk, which not even the likes of Rush can abide, she is not black.

It tends to point out the racial discrimination of the Right, that they would suggest a vote for her rather than anyone black.

I would not complain about a good vote even if for the wrong reasons.

Double standard - again

When the media started covering the reaction to Obama's speech on race and his relation to Rev. Wright very little was said about the long history of white (mostly evangelical) preachers who have in the past and continue to spout hate speech about America being damned and punished for harboring gays, the ACLU, liberals, pro women's rights movements, etc. , who condemn other religions (the Catholic church, the Mormons, and etc.) in awful terms - and who have been systematically embraced by Republican politicians, the latest of whom is McCain, who ran after the Rev Hagee for months to obtain his endorsement. I have yet to see president Bush, McCain or any other Republican in office renounce and reject these people. On the contrary, they're wined and dined and invited to the White House and thanked for their "spiritual guidance".

I thought the mainstream media is supposed to be fair and balanced. Double standard is raising its ugly head again - one rule for whites, one for blacks.

Do you have any idea how this racist witch hunt looks from the rest of the world?

Snx for you job!
It has very much helped me!

Blasphemy in the media. The truth about Rev. Wright.

Please take a few minutes out of your busy life to see the truth, if that's what you really want!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

After you watch these and see the truth, please send them along to all the people you wanted to warn against Obama, because the media lied to you. Rev. Wright is a God loving Christian; he is not one ounce the person the media portrays him as being. Who ever put those videos together will have their day to be judged by God!

Hillary is such an unashamed liar, it is no point in saying to her, "Shame on you!" The Clintons are shameless, and in their lust to return to the WH they are prepared to destroy Senator Obama, the Democratic Party and our country and the younger generation. President Clinton's horrible slurs on Senator Obama's patriotism, Hillary's endorsement of McCain over Obama, their playing of the gender and race cards, her lies on NAFTA, etc, etc--it is TIME for the party leaders (Gore, Pelosi, Edwards, Biden, etc) to place the Clinton Dynasty in the wastebasket of history and to turn the page for a new America of WE the people, of all colors, creeds, genders, and classes. The Clinton machine is going berserk and taking us all down with it.

Ok, this Wright stuff is disturbing, very. But the bigger problem I have for Mr. Obama is his pattern of saying one thing and then distancing himself from those words when the opposite is revealed at a later date. That is called "spin", people. We have a need and right to know Senator Obama from every angle and what he believes when he talks of equality and a "vision" for America. To say that Clinton +/or Obama is at fault for the direction the Democratic campaign has headed, is ludicrous and short-sighted. America is a melting pot of races, genders, culture, etc. and we each have a personal interest in seeing "ourselves" in our President. With that connection comes passion and emotional investment. However, it also must be tempered with information about the candidates (good and bad, without negative "label" attached to said information) so that we can make informed choices, rather than only emotionally-driven ones. To Americans: try to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin, mud and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and,arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and what-if's - it is about who you believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for every hardworking American, because they have a track record of that already. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be, not just because she's running for President. Vetted, intelligent, tested and hardworking. Senator Clinton is the right choice for me in '08

Hey Mike--is it Clinton's fault Obama's numbers are falling like a rock because he was a coward for 20 years and didn't stand up against hate speech and anti-americanism? It simply isn't okay for a president to have stood idly by and not walked out of such a situation. That is why his chance of being one is in jeopardy. I'm a democrat who will never vote for Obama. Don't accuse Hillary of stealing anything if the only hope the dems have to win in November is anyone but Obama and the superdelegates make that decision.

Angles were flying all around and the trumpits blowing but not loud enough to make me believe Obamas speach. Religion or Prision; I do not distinguish between them.
Preachers or Politicans are one and the same. They are Control artist in every aspect of our lives. We are like children to them to be scolded, punished,taxed, to their liking and comfort. Every aspect of our lives are controled thus leaving us as true slaves serving them. So when the word change is menchoned remember only the task master is changed be he or she of any color.

Obama's speech was not "great." It completely avoided the core issues of his truthfulness and beliefs regarding the extensive anti-American comments made by Wright, when Obama knew about them and what he did in response to them once he did know. He has repeatedly denied knowing about them, but then admitted in his speech to knowing "some." He has repeatedly said that if he did "hear" any of them, then he would confront Wright on them -- did he? (he didn't say in his speech, so presumably he didn't). And, after acknowledging that he had heard "some" of the controversial comments, he didn't address why he remained a member of Wright's church. Overall, Obama gave a general philosophical speech on his view of racism. Of course, he went over the edge in trying to equate his grandmother and Ferraro's comments to Wright's. Overall ... the speech just reinforced that Obama is basically dishonest and a racist himself, although he is very good at calling everyone else dishonest and racist that questions him or disagrees with him politically.

Yes - I CAN - YES - WE CAN. . . .
Call "Obama incompetent"

And the BS about Democraps threatening to JAIL MORE OH people for voting (More because they did it to me in the 2004 election!)??
1. In some areas IF you don't register Democrap you can never vote in primaries. Unions and Democrap Bosses control so much of the area that people run as D or I, no R primaries. So for years I have been Registered (shudder) D. But almost always vote R in the General.
2. Democraps and Indeps. voted in great #s in the early primaries which is how McCain got the R nod.
3. The laws are set up that YOU CAN switch AT THE POLLS in many states and OH (and I think TX) are 2 examples.

Jailing voters - a GREAT!!! way to "win the hearts and minds" - hmm sounds LIBERAL to me. . .And you think DEMOCRAP - C H I C K E N S (won't) C O M E. . .H O M E . . T O . . R O O S T??

I guess I think like - A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON??

Yes - I CAN - YES - WE CAN. . . .
Call "Obama incompetent"

And the BS about Democraps threatening to JAIL MORE OH people for voting (More because they did it to me in the 2004 election!)??
1. In some areas IF you don't register Democrap you can never vote in primaries. Unions and Democrap Bosses control so much of the area that people run as D or I, no R primaries. So for years I have been Registered (shudder) D. But almost always vote R in the General.
2. Democraps and Indeps. voted in great #s in the early primaries which is how McCain got the R nod.
3. The laws are set up that YOU CAN switch AT THE POLLS in many states and OH (and I think TX) are 2 examples.

Jailing voters - a GREAT!!! way to "win the hearts and minds" - hmm sounds LIBERAL to me. . .And you think DEMOCRAP - C H I C K E N S (won't) C O M E. . .H O M E . . T O . . R O O S T??

I guess I think like - A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON??

Despite the fact that a few die hard posters are posting Pro Obama comments all over the place , the polls are showing major hemorrhaging of the Obama support nationally.
he can not win in November , because the Republicans will use this issue in a swiftboat type ad over and over , and it Will erode his support within the white community.
Actually the solidarity of the black support behind him in the face of the facts in this case will turn even more whites off of him . In the end he will lose at least 15 to 20 percent of the white vote that he previously had , and he will lose in November.
there is no way this guy can now be elected!!

I have often wondered, when will we just all be americans? There is a new racism in the US and it's the color of skin. Because your friend brings up a great point, not all whites have manifested as white some of us passed into whiteness and are now part of the great white shame. As with Obama who has passed into blackness. It is summed up with his equation of his white grandma with a black supremest preacher of a non-profit church who preaches that 9/11 was god's retribution to white America, Amen. We only have to watch Mr. Obama not place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem to see where his loyalties lie.

"It does appear that the number of Republicans who voted for Hillary Clinton in Texas exceeds her margin of victory in that state's Democratic primary. And while it's hard to know exactly what motivated these voters, it is worth noting that a) the GOP contest was all but over; b) Hillary isn't exactly known as Democrat who also appeals to Republicans (in fact, quite the opposite); and c) Rush Limbaugh and others on the right did urge Republicans to do the unthinkable and vote for Hillary."

That's news and I read the Post and Times overseas each day, following the campaigns closely.

Otherwise, your comments B-grade momentary opinion from that safe well of received ideas. It is quite likely you won't have a job anywhere after this election.

"Obama says he wants to unite the country. Right wing pundits say: over our dead bodies."

Leave it to Joel of Achenblog (this site) to cut through muck and let in light.

M --

Barry Obama is what Mark McCormack used to call an "articulate incompetent"

They're the most dangerous people in business.

I checked the guy out with contacts in Washington, Chicago, and even people who knew him when he was growing up.

What I found out has caused me to drop almost everything else and spend countless hours posting here.

He's got a carefully-crafted public image that has no connection to the kind of guy he really is.

In that way, he's just like Bush was.

We're in danger of making the exact same mistake again.

Look at the NYT article about his dismal performance in the Senate.

They were as polite as possible.

He's a great actor and salesman.

He'd be a total disaster as a President.

yanquitheone,
You say "The proof that he harbors [bitterness, hatred] comes from the company he keeps..."

Have you researched ALL the company he keeps, some of it...ANY of it? What research have you done besides watch a snippet or two on YouTube?

"For example is no proof" is a wise Yiddish saying. A half truth is all lie.

svreader: you make us laugh with ignorant use of words and turn of phrase. No one can call Obama incompetent, that's for sure. To outmaneuver the Clintons' vaunted political machine into a defeat is masterful. (Hillary is trailing so she is the loser). Obama got to where he is because of his talent, perseverance, integrity and tactical brilliance. Obama graduated with honors not some C's, not because of Affirmative Action, but because he is truly brilliant: he can write and speak superbly, not just well but with excellence. (his white mother tutored him). Incompetent is what describes George Bush; inept describes George; stupid is apt for Dubya.

Mobedda: you are right. The Republicans can do anything to win, anything at all, even selling their souls. What's cheating to the Republicans if it means they win?

Obama's speech matters, will matter as weeks and months go by. Americans will study it; the conservatives will look for something to malign, but in the long run, Obama's speech will tell the world that we still have leaders who can think intelligently and we do have our intelligent leaders. The American electorate somehow votes for the last man in his class like Bush and McCain - the goats. Does that mean Americans like being goats?

Jeez, this gets worse everyday, why don't we just give Mcbush the keys the white house now?

Bill Richardsons endorsement means nothing ethnically. He's only Latino when he wants something, He reminds me of local newscasters who suddenly started roliing their r's in the 90's when it became ok to be hispanic and in the nedia. Besides, what des he have like 8 supporters?

Obama lied. Period.

What the Obamites want is for Hillary to drop out and hand the baby his bottle. Why should she? Do we really want to decide something this important on mathematics? if Hillary has no support at the convention it will show pretty quickly. Why should her supporters be thrown under the bus? Besides, is there any room under that bus with Obamas' racist granny and her walker taking up space?

I just want to add that "race-relations" seems to be something the descendents of slaves and the descendents of primarily W.A.S.P. seed of our country need to work out on their own. Can those of us from who immigrated her recently, or are from families who did (black, white, Hispanic, Asian) please be excused? Lock yourselves in a room and don't come out until you have figured this out.

I did not care about race before, and I still do not. Pastor Wright, as is Obama's response, is utterly irrelevant.

I come out feeling slightly irritated for have had this spectacle of Obama's knocking down a straw man thrust in our faces. The media never fails to disappoint. Well, the vast majority of journalists are incredibly stupid--the open secret around universities is that special journalism programs exist because these people could not cut it in legitimate A&S programs.

I am voting for the candidate who will do the most to help the poor and disenfranchised; race is not the issue. Not help yuppies feel better about themselves. I supported Edwards early, and, given the way things are going, will write him in in November.

It is mind boggling as to the degree AfricanAmericans are unable to grasp the meaning and impact of Reverend Wright on non Obama zealots. Your column was dead on, succint and to the point. Where is all this rage coming from? It is this simple. A man who comes forward with outstretched hands and a soft tone demands a passive response. When he is shown to harbor hatred , bitterness and wanton vengeance what do you honestly expect from others.The proof that he harbors such beliefs comes from the company he keeps and those he hold dear and close. I'm sorry and I can almost feel the crushing weight of your disapointment, but he disqualifies himself from leading all the people.

The "one-drop" rule, and the southern state laws defining a "Negro" as a person bearing 1/64 black blood were loudly decried by all decent people, especially blacks, and those bearing some percent proportion of black blood above the 1/64th mark. This was in the 1960s. Now candidates like Barack Obama cling to the once-hated "one-drop" rule because he knows that being black in the America of 2008 brings with it many advantages (adoration by the press, Affirmative Action, etc.). Hypocritical isn't it?

why didn't you answer honestly?

as a black man, Obama has less people to con . If he went as a white man, he'd have a lot more competition running for office.

Stumped:
Below is hate blog against Africans Posted by: rafnapeed | March 21, 2008 09:47 AM.
I posted a response but you refused to publish it. I am not really surprised. In the spirit of Obama, I keep my feelings until there is a forum where we can all address these issues.
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what about Sudan ? black africans are being massacred, raped and pillaged by Arab Americans ? How come Rev. Wright and others are not marching for them ? Is it something to do with money from that great man a little to the north and west ? Gaddifi.

BTW. Arabs have enslaved blacks for centuries on the East African coast. What about Idi Amin ? Slauhtering South Asians was okay too.

i could go on and on with the hypocrisy. Wake up black Africans. There is racism as well as reverse racism in America. Think for youself. Ignore the facism. There is no instuional racism. My company gives a bonus for every minority engineer hired. Become accountants, clerks, mechanics, welders, pharmacists, chefs, business and such. Otherwise you will be left behind hispanics and all the groups. And keep blaming your problems on slavery.

Logicaldoubt,

Your rant doesn't do a lot for proving your own intelligence.

How global of you to have a pen pal from Portugal. The one-drop rule has been defunct since reconstruction. Did you look it up in Wikipedia? I am surprised you would even mention that despicable racist b.s. As for your astute comment that his speech was academic and useless-how does it feel to be an idiot with a NYT imprimatur. Why don't you go back home to whatever hollow you crawled out of and get reacquainted with your cousins I mean your brothers or are they transgendered? Please vote McCain-he can't remember who we are fighting because the past is meaningless to him. Would you like a photocopy of his signed Condemnation of American Imperialism when he was captured in Vietnam because of disobeying a direct order to pull up and not fire at the enemy? I'd be happy to have you peruse what a bonafide hero has to say. Sort of like the Brits in Iran who wore the lovely new suits.

For those of you raising the "intelligentsia" flag, about how only stupid blue-collared folks, ignorant racist folks, deep south democrats folks, etc are the only ones raising the ruckus about Obama, think again.

Th intelligentsia also has splits about who is the better president. Not all of us have decided that experience (or lack of thereof) is past discussion. Not all of us are comfortable about a candidate who joined a racist church for 20 years and hasn't even bothered to make a proper apology. So for you "Obama intelligentsia" out there who thinks that all smart people will vote for Obama, think again.

The basis of a presidential election is to democratically nominate a person who can fulfill the roles of Commander-in-Chief, Financial CEO, Social Arbitrator, and State Visionary. He/she has to have vision, guts, financial smarts, and the ability to make social changes that will advance society. As of right now, Obama fits none of the above. He has scant experience in military and financial matters, he is a charlatan as a social arbitrator as illustrated by the Wright scandal, and he is no state visionary.

His ideas of change are either copies of other candidate's ideas or ambiguous. He is a candidate that we cannot define or identify, as his records show nothing of use for us to verify his positions. His mantra of change rings hollow in light of his lack of records.So why do we want to elect him?

Because he is smart? Many politicians are smart, he isn't unique.

Because he will bring change? What change, he either can't even spell it out for us or copies it from someone else. Some change!

Because he will heal this nation? How can he heal the nation when he can't even distance himself from his racist preacher?

Because he may be the first African American to be President? I don't care, even MLK said that a man shouldn't be judged by the color of his skin, but by the basis of his character.

Because he made a speech about race relations in the USA? He threw his grandma under the bus, called his grandma "a typical white person", and essentially called all white people racists in one form or another. If a white person looks scared seeing 2 black men in Baltimore walking straight towards him at 1:00am, there is a reason: homocide in Baltimore is 3rd in the nation. If Obama's grandmother told him to watch himself in the Chicago ghettos, its because she cares for him and not because she is a racist.

Because if we don't elect Obama somehow we are now a racist nation? Don't bring your reverse-racism and white guilt argument in front of my door. I will treat EVERYONE equally. Affirmative Action gave Obama the chance he needs to succeed, its time he is judged by his words and action rather than the color of his skin.

You so called Obama "intelligentsia" aren't very intelligent yourself. You ridicule other people's opinion on who has the capability of leadership, you denigrate other candidates (Billary, Old/Ancient McCain as examples), you refuse to listen to other people's opinion, and you call people who don't want to vote for Obama undemocratic, stupid, ignorant, closet racist or the likes.

Intelligentsia is a community of people who use discourse in logic, philosophy, sociology/anthropology, economics/mathematics, and empiric evidence to support arguments and make assessments about current situations. You Obama supporters do not fit into that category, you fit more under the category of ignorant college kids. Stop bringing out how smart you all are. Just because you finished some BS/BA degree doesn't mean you are smart, it just means you aren't totally stupid. Stop flaunting your pathetic arguments about how smart people will vote Obama.

If you want change, know this: even the most drastic changes occur over a period of time. Medical practice changes over decades, engineering concepts take decades to take hold, social changes take decades from idea to practice, and even something as simple as your ipod took over 50 years to evolve from the concept of quantum physics. Your idea for monumental governmental change is naive. Elect the candidate who will most effectively govern our country, not the one who makes pretty slogans with nothing to back it up.

Yes, Stumped is right. The speech was great but it will not help in electing
Obama. RNA (red-neck America) that elected Bush twice will not find Obama "electable", especially after his speech. So prepare to welcome McCain (third Bush term) this November!

I have been sitting back reading various blogs and I have to say, I am amazed how anyone could see Barack Obama as prejudice or having bigoted views for having an association with Rev. Wright. BARACK IS HALF WHITE, for God sake. Just as much white as black, so are you saying he hates himself? Secondly, everyone is so down on him about his association with Paster Wright, well Bill Clinton invited Wright to a White House breakfast which I'm sure, many pastors in America will never sit at a presidential breakfast UNLESS they are close friends or advisors with the president. So is that saying Bill Clinton is a bigot, too? Wright went to this breakfast before Obama was even a blip on the poilitical radar screen. WHAT DOES ALL THIS SAY? To me, the whole Obama fiasco of being a bigot is bulls^&* and way over the top dramatics. The man is the best candidate for the job as president. He was weathered this dumb crisis and I have faith he will think just as levelheaded in any crisis put before him.

Great speeches never help, never contribute to reasoning, never aid overcoming frozen, prejudiced opinions precisely because of the prejudice! Such minds are made up on the basis of prejudice, not facts. That's the difference between being "opinionated" and holding opinions!

Anyone without opinions is an empty-minded individual, or an "air-head" in the terms popular with young people. Holding innumerable opinions--those supported with real facts, not just emotions and their prejudice--is the mark of an intelligent, attentive, studious, reasoning person.

Gilbert Cantlin

Great speeches never help, never contribute to reasoning, never aid overcoming frozen, prejudiced opinions precisely because of the prejudice! Such minds are made up on the basis of prejudice, not facts. That's the difference between being "opinionated" and holding opinions!

Anyone without opinions is an empty-minded individual, or an "air-head" in the terms popular with young people. Holding innumerable opinions--those supported with real facts, not just emotions and their prejudice--is the mark of an intelligent, attentive, studious, reasoning person.

Gilbert Cantlin

Democrats & Race: Out In the Open - At Last!

By Allen J Duffis
Published: March 19, 2008

For decades, the Democratic Party has acted as though race was of absolutely no concern to their party or constituents - whatsoever. And in some ways, one got the impression from their public demeanor that the party managed to become the first bastion on the American scene to achieve racial integration. In fact, they even managed to separate the body of the party from the loathed 'Dixiecrats', as though these outcasts of the 'Old South' were some politically distasteful family relations in name only.

Now at last the nasty little secret is out in the open, and we have former congresswoman and vice presidential candidate, Geraldine Ferraro to thank for it's long due revelation. Finally, a breath of fresh air in this stifling Democratic Primary Race without end: Ms. Ferraro's socially unpalatable revelation, now being referred to as racist, in any other context would be referred to as - the Truth. Ferraro's 'entire' statement made to the Daily Breeze of Torrance California (prejudicially abbreviated in major press accounts) was as follows:

"I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign - to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against," she said. "For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," she continued. "And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the [concept.]" Ferraro does not buy the notion of Obama as the great reconciler.

"I was reading an article that said young Republicans are out there campaigning for Obama because they believe he's going to be able to put an end to partisanship," Ferraro said, clearly annoyed. "Dear God! Anyone that has worked in the Congress knows that for over 200 years this country has had partisanship - that's the way our country is."

Well I say, "Wake up Obama fanatic supporters, be you White or Black." Like it or not, your candidate is nothing more than an Extreme Left 'concept' of choice. And the concept translates to the 'same old politics' in a youthful new brown wrapper: his color does - to a large degree - define the dynamic meteoric momentum of his presidential candidacy.

Instead of being derided as a closet racist, Ms. Ferraro should be applauded for her politically incorrect candor, and for her bravery in the face of savage return fire as well. And I discover even greater admiration in her choice to brave the fallout from her statements, by the open defiant determination determination to stand by her words.

I ask you, counting the fingers of both hands, how many politicians can claim such moral resolution? If you've made it past your first hand - admit it - your're lying to yourself.

This presidential primary season for the Democratic Party has been run as though it was some sort of 'infantile', school yard, sand-box skirmish. Everything was supposed to be 'nice-nice', which meant no kicking, biting, scratching, name calling or the usual down and out brand of dirty politics. They wanted the public to believe this first time ever political race between a White female and a Black male, with record breaking amounts of money being raised and spent by both contenders and their supporters, and record breaking voter turnout, was going to be a clean non-political fight.

Hey good people of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), you're old enough to know better - there simply ain' t no such thing!

The Female Imperative

Between 1620 to 1621, dependent upon historical reference, the Mayflower settlers (the 102 survivors of the grueling 66 day trans Atlantic voyage from England), landed in what would eventually become Plymouth Massachusetts and formed the Plymouth Colony. Of this hardy group, at least 30 percent of them were female and, unlike the males, they were to discover they had simply exchanged one hard life of marital servitude and societal subjugation for another. Equal rights benefits would be a long time coming.

The men would eventually gain 'freedom of speech' and 'one man one vote' with the American Constitution in 1787, but the women had to blaze a protracted and painful uphill battle. It took all of 133 years for them to make it to Women's Suffrage and the right to vote and hold public office, granted years later in 1920 via the 19th amendment. However, it would appear that many today continue to have great difficulty digesting this 88 year old gain for women, and so rides the 21st century plight of Hillary Rodham Clinton's run for the presidency of the United States.

That many Americans of both sexes should find the plausibility of a female president, much less the probability, so daunting does not surprise me. Incredible as it may seem, there was a hint of such opposition back in 1965: manifested in the most unlikely of all venues - Science Fiction.

Gene Roddenberry, the television producer of the groundbreaking science fiction television series, "Star Trek", ran into just such unexpected resistance. In the first pilot episode for the series entitled, "The Menagerie" (reissued in the series as "The Cage"), he cast the actress, Majel Barrett, as the 'Number Two' first officer to the starship captain: she took command whenever he was absent or in some way incapacitated.

Keeping in mind the series timeline was projected to 300 years into the future, it was noted that the preview audience had great difficulty accepting her crew status. In short, they simply could not envision a woman - even 300 years from then - having such power and authority. Because of this reaction, the network insisted they change the crew status of the character, and she became the head nurse to the starships doctor.

Now can many of you fully understand what Senator Hillary Clinton has to go up against in her run for the presidency? It's still not easy being an accomplished and competent woman of power in this country. But understand, Hillary Clinton is not looking to become a nurse, or even a second in command. Sen. Hillary Clinton wants to be the Starship Captain - and she's earned the right!

The Affirmative Action Candidate

Let's not attempt the ridiculous by trying to fool ourselves in thinking that Barack Obama is anything more that just that: he is without doubt - The Affirmative Action Candidate. For even as a Black congressman of no mean accomplishment to date, he doesn't possess anywhere near the credentials necessary for the position he is seeking. Adding to that fact, Geraldine Ferraro was absolutely correct in her remarks. Were it not for his race, Obama wouldn't be a serious contender at the level he's achieved in this very important and incredibly tight presidential race. The situation is not unique, it happened once before, and then too was the result of actions by the politically active Liberal Left.

Back in 1963 the powerful motion picture "HUD", which starred a host of fine actors including Paul Newman as the lead actor, was nominated for a number of Academy Awards. The film went on to garner 11 nominations and to win three of the coveted awards; best leading actress, best supporting actor and best cinematography.

Though nominated for best leading actor in a film virtually defined and dominated by his performance, Newman did not win. That 'privilege' was reserved for actor Sidney Poitier for his role in the film "Lilies of the Field." Poitier is without doubt a fine actor, and one whose performing capability on the screen I would be the last person to question or deride. But the film he won the Academy Award for was nowhere near the best film or film work he'd ever done. Nor was it by any stretch of the imagination comparable to the raw human power of the Newman vehicle, "HUD."

Unfortunately for Newman it was the year the Liberal Left Hollywood crowd decided that, even though Newman was a Left leaner and one of their own, the times dictated a 'Negro' should win the Oscar. One can only imagine the driving force behind their choice was the backdrop of the Civil Rights Movement, and Paul Newman's performance in an unquestionably superior film and role was chosen as the sacrificial lamb.

Now it is 2008 - and here we go again. This time, however, the superior actor and opposition Democratic Party candidate is a female who has paid her dues, and demands her time and turn. Her candidacy states - 'it's time to give a woman a chance at the top seat' and, so far, she has refused to back down. And if we go by the voting breakdown of the primaries to date, she has the older women of America behind her.

Obama's Powerful Foot-Soldiers: The Press

In this category, more than any other factor, count the 'mainstream press' as the Black candidate's main corps, for no other factor has weighed so heavily in favor of Sen. Barack Obama and so prejudicially against Sen. Hillary Clinton. The fairness doctrine so highly touted by the American press for centuries, has been shattered by their crass behavior during the Democratic Party's run for the White House.

Black journalists Clarence Page, Gwen Ifil, Michele Norris, Cynthia Tucker, Eugene Robinson and Democratic Strategist Donna Brazil, to name a few, were so clearly pro Obama that all pretensions of subjectivity on their part failed to camouflage their 'racial' partisanship. Inexcusable as this barely hidden display may enthusiasm have been, at least it could be attributed to a 'Black Pride' thing. But what about the shameful behavior of the likes of White reporters like Chris Matthews? He was so excited by the Obama candidacy, that on one of his broadcasts he made the remark that he got a - 'tingle up his leg.'

All should take note that the White press makes it an obvious point to tip-toe around Black sensitivities when reporting on Obama's campaign, and the activities of those heavily involved in it.In reporting on Obama, the politically-correct reporter's handbook becomes the strict guide. But take note they evidence no such care or caution of the sensitivities of women, particularly as a minority, when they cock their press guns and go after Hillary Clinton. She does, indeed, get the first nasty powder-packed, politically loaded questions in debates, and the first shot across the bow when anything in her campaign goes astray.

That's right! We as a people can no longer trust the press for either the truth or fairness in reporting events. In the race for ratings and editorial glory, they have become as politically biased and shock-obsessed as the rest of us - and that includes the Fox News Channel.

The Iraq War: A Blurred Line in the Sand

Barack Obama's one claim to fame and presidential worthiness is that he voted against the Iraq War. Big deal I say, so what! It should also be mentioned that his one effective claim against Hillary Clinton is that - she voted for the Iraq War. Again I say, so what? Listening to Sen. Obama one would think Hillary Clinton was the sole member of congress who voted for the war. She wasn't!

Congressional voting on major issues - either for or against, especially on matters relating to committing a nation to war, is generally based upon three factors: Morally Right, Morally Wrong and Political Risk.

The order in which these elements of decision are lined up, one to three, are a key factor in determining the character of the decider. Before decision making, however, one is compelled to think through the matter, and to base one's decision on a multitude of factors and presented incoming data that may or may not be reliable. Does that process sound familiar to you, Sen. Obama? It really should! It is the decision making process that one is expected to employ as Chief Executive Officer of the United States: in other words - the President.

We now know that the present administration wanted to go to war in Iraq - period. What we don't know with certainty as yet, is the reason they wanted to go down this brutal military passageway to 4000 American and well over 100,000 Iraqi deaths. All we have to go by are unsubstantiated suspicions that it all had to do with - Iraq's vast and virtually untapped oil reserves.

What we do know is that the Bush administration went out of it's way to 'cherry-pick' incoming intelligence data, to present to the congress as proof positive that the Saddam Hussein government still retained, in defiance of a UN edict, a Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) capability. And in the shadow of the 9-11 terror attacks, their possession of these purported weapons posed a grave threat to the American people and their allies.

Senator Hillary Clinton as a member of congress thought it over and weighed the pros and cons of a possible first time ever 'preemptive' attack by the United States of America, against a sovereign country that we were not 'technically' or legally at war with. And based upon the evidence then presented by the Bush administration given, most of which we now know to have been false or corrupted, she and members of congress (in a 77-23 Senate/ 296-133 House of Rep vote) voted to give the president permission to go to war with Iraq - if it became necessary.

That's right Sen. Obama, the vote was not to go to war, but to go to war - if necessary. And of course, we all know how the Bush administration read that vote - and ran with it to war. Before the UN teams could complete their WMD search, we attacked and invaded..

So reading the facts correctly, Sen. Clinton did not vote solely on going to war with Iraq. But if we were to buy Sen. Obama's logic - that one decision should forever define her capabilities to hold administrative residence in the Oval Office.

There is, however, a far greater and more strategically critical unanswered question floating out there in the political ether: one that as yet has not been either asked, answered or openly alluded to by the Obama support camp. "Sen. Obama, just how did you come about your decision not to approve the Iraq War Resolution?"

We have as yet to hear you explain, in detail, just how you came up with the decision to vote 'against' this resolution. We have to ask this very important question of a 'pretender to the throne' because of one salient fact: at the time of the vote, no one in congress was aware that the intelligence data presented to justify the war was corrupted and false.Even the revered Gen. Colin Powell was duped, by his own admission, into using this evidence in his presentation to the United nations - on television for all the world to see.

Therefore, Sen. Obama, just what data did you employ to make your touted decision? And most of all, why didn't you share said data with the others in congress - including Gen. Powell and Senator Clinton?

As I view it, Sen. Obama, Sen. Clinton went through the proper decision making process even though, in the end, it yielded for her and 372 other members of congress a poor and unwise decision. Nor should we forget the eventual embarrassment of General Powell before the entire world. The point is, at least they thought about it before taking action. You on the other hand, appear to have simply made, at best, a - lucky guess! If you should take office, senator, is that the decision making philosophy you intend to apply, should you be called upon to answer the Red Tel phone at 3:00 AM in the White House?

During the two presidential terms of her husband, Hillary Clinton went through the agony of being the main architect of a health plan, that even she now admits was far too cumbersome. And rightly so, it was shot down by the Congress. But she has had over 15 years of working experience to learn and improve from. She has gone up a learning curve that has allowed her to be better prepared to attack such vital national issues. To wit, she over the many years of her political experience is on a first name relation with many foreign leaders and officials; in times of strife, when minutes and hours count, this factor is very important.

Like her or hate her, Sen. Hillary Clinton has proved that she has the 'right stuff' to occupy the Oval Office. She truly is as her campaign slogans - is ready on day one! On the other hand, you Sen. Obama - you are not!

Whomever Wins - American Society Loses

This presidential primary season has gone on far too long, but under the circumstances underlying it's extension, it was necessary. Racial makeup or gender should not dictate a winner. Nor should Hollywood like star power or popularity. Unfortunately, this election has brought together two long denied minorities, women and Blacks.

To quote a long held physics axiom - 'two objects can not occupy the same space in time.' For those of you not that familiar with the science of physics, what were talking about is akin to a game of 'musical chairs.' In other words, when the primary music finally stops, someone will have lost their seat at the table and in this case, an entire minority group will take that loss as an abject betrayal.

I have never been in the business of making predictions, and I will not stray from that policy now. But the situation before us will not allow me to 'straddle the fence' so to speak. Therefore, I will end with a simple observation from many years lived in this country.

The past does not die until the people who lived it die. And it is my opinion there's a lot of vestigial racial hatred, dislike, distrust and general all around suspicion still resident deep in the minds of many potential older voters in this country. They are both Black and White, - and they're not all in the deep South.

So no matter the outcome of this primary season, that hidden and buried resentment may be registered within the anonymity of the voting booth this coming November - like it or not. Some may refer to the possible reaction as - getting even. The rest of us prefer to view the backfire reaction in more realistic terms, such as - the biased will of the people: commonly referred to as - Democracy in Action.

It WAS a great speech and it WILL help Obama with ADULTS ... it will do nothing, however, for those people who do not want to change ... who like and insist on viewing the world through their filters of hate, prejudice and victimhood.

I'll start from early on in my evolution... I am a biracial man whose father is African-American and mother is Caucasian. My parents met in 1959 when my un-wed mother was in a nursing school where my father was employed as a nurses aide... my mother was engaged to a white man who was attending engineering school. My father had an African-American wife and (5) children at the time of his extra-marital relationship with my mother. At some early point of my mothers pregnancy with me she made the decision to marry her fiance, and to lie to everyone about who the father of her un-born child was... she achieved this by claiming that I had been afflicted with a skin-disease called "melanism".

My mother and step-father had four more children together in the space of nine years after I was born, and we grew up together in a middle-class household in white america where the subject of "race" was never discussed. My earliest recollections of having to be aware of race was when I was asked questions about the color of my skin by other classmates in first grade... "Why was my skin dark?", "Was I adopted?" race was certainly a hot-button issue in 1965-66 when I began school , but any awareness that my mother and step-father had achieved from growing up in their white neighborhoods in the 40's and 50's was insufficient in preparing them for raising a biracial child... and to complicate things, they were both in complete denial of their complicity in my mis-education. When I came home from school after having been asked questions by fellow students from my all-white school district, my mother then explained "the skin-disease story" to me... "other kids with this disease usually have dark blotches all over their bodies, so you should feel fortunate". When I would tell my mother about other boys and girls who would call me names or act aggressively for no apparent reason, I began to understand that I would get no further assistance from her to explain this rationale... my step-father was even more removed from the conversation and would only add, "You know what your mother said".

By the time that my step-father transferred jobs and our family of (7) had moved from the all-white Cleveland, Ohio suburb of Stow to the all-white school district of Portville in Western up-state N.Y. it was the spring of 1970 and I was in fourth grade, and already the veteran of many racial incidents and altercations between myself, classmates, and even some adults. My four younger siblings had also been told the same story, and had to explain the same things to their friends when asked why they had a brother who was black... "Hey, did your mother fool around a little bit??" I remember how much that hurt me when I heard it, and I'm sure that they felt just as badly when they did... nonetheless, this was a "subject" that we never discussed as a family, not once, at least in my presence.

I was taught through my observations of my mother and step-father to keep quiet about things that I wasn't sure about, and I was also taught to ignore the obvious.

As I matured into my teen-aged years and began to experience societies issues and insecurities in coming to terms with this countries racial in-equalities during the 70's, I felt an increasing need to rationalize and then codify the information that my mother had given me, regardless of what I was beginning to realize inside... I felt a growing discomfort/conflict, yet there was no one in my life to offer any other perspective... I had learned that black people were a part of society that we didn't talk about. ( There was a black family in my small town, and they were poor and lived in a run-down house near the river...I never had any opportunity or reason to associate with them)

I was a "B" student and also began taking an interest in sports where I was above average. Meeting other schools and student athletes were opportunities to then be exposed to populations that had not been inured by my story yet...I was just another black kid to them.

Communicating my experiences to my mother and step-father was difficult because they had no experience with racial prejudice, therefore when I had problems with other children it would be looked at as an issue that "I" had in getting along with others(as well as intra-family sibling issues).
Because "race" was being ruled-out entirely, by my mothers denial of my father, she could not logically use that rationale to explain any conflicts that I would have. My step-fathers complicity in this was to blindly support my mothers viewpoint.

The "white" viewpoint has always been that blacks(black society) were pretty well cared for, and what contact they did have would be polite and careful... What, with the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts being passed, the playing field had been leveled.(re: my mother and step-father's generation)
The feelings and comfort of my mother were apparently what was important, and her inculcation had to have been partly comprised of the idea that white society acted as the gate-keepers and care-takers of an infantilized black population.

questions:

How has black society formed its identity?

What role models have been used, and how does white society react to positive
black role models today? (Are they held to a more critical prism??)

Is there enough information readily available for black people to easily form a
positive racial identity?

Is it important that black society is able to connect accurately the dots of its social
evolution in America? and is it also important that white society can connect those
same dots??

What is White Privilege?

What is White awareness?

What is Whiteness?

What about Affirmative Action?

Is Race just a social construct?

How do we improve our society in America?

Is there any other way(besides the attrition of the old guard) to achieve this??

Dave Myers
www.discussrace.com

Well, maybe it wasn't Obama's speech but things appear to be turning around and Barack Obama is once again leading Senator Clinton among Democrats - stay tuned, Barack Obama will be the nominee.

You're a pathetically mindless Republican. Obama KNOWS what democracy is, you haven't a clue. And much worse than that, you obviously think the average citizen is too dumb to decide how things should be running. You like King Georgie and Cheney and their gang, and you like it that America is no longer a democracy - it has become a corporatocracy.

Did it occur to anyone else that prior to this personal revelation by Barak Obama regarding his minister and his need to speak to the race issue..40% of Americans felt Barak Obama's religious affiliation was Muslim? Now they know. This appears to me as a perfect orchestration of political prowess by the Obama team. Release the Rezko update, address the screaming 'racist' all on a Friday afternoon. Then, let it fester for the weekend with an announcement of a major speech on 'race' on Tuesday.
This tactic negated the admission by the Obama campaign that once again, a new set of circumstances regarding the Rezko growing donor list and trial.
Interestingly, the speech once again enflamed the racist angle by comparing Mrs Ferraro to Reverend Wright. How can African Americans as a core group not feel like a lost 'race' in the United States when the 'race' is pushed out and roped in at the whim of Barak Obama when he first needs a launching base to make a name for himself..second disavows the 'race' while he says he transcends 'race' and ignores the plight of the Jenna 6. Once again he reaches for the 'race' to propel him forward in a caucus..giving his stump speech in 'black speak' accent on ya'all..throws the 'race' back in the closet as he denies his faith and once again open the wounds by declaring himself the 'uniter'.
Uniter of what? A country that has long lived, since the late 60's in relative comfort with all races and religions. My street is a great mix..we have black, white, christians, jews, homosexuals and a lot of pets. It is my choice as a free citizen to attend any function, church, lecture or movie, I choose. If I ever get the inclination to go to South Central, Los Angeles, I am as uncomfortable in that neighborhood, as someone from South Central,would feel in my neighborhood. The same goes for Koreatown and Chinatown. That is the beauty and the beast we describe as our country.
Our choice-not Obamas business or political ploy used as chicanery to influence an election. The greatest speech ever given on the subject of 'race' began when our forefathers landed on this soil and wrote the rest of the story they called the Constitution. It describes what I believe most thinking Americans long for..a place to call home.
All the while his campaign saying a redo was OK in MI and FL but working to destroy the redo by running the clock.
I have to hand to to BO as this is as low as it gets. To stir the racial pot to subjugate impropriety on the state level and gain enough media attention to disenfranchise millions of 'folks' by not addressing their voting concerns in two populace states.
Unbelievable-and CNN focuses on the dates of liaisons with Monica Lewinsky as the sole information worth garnering from 11,000 pages of documentation of data 'everyone' was salivating over that are obviously very public thanks to the Ken Starr authority.
Is there reality reporting going on?

I think the speech will help Obama with the Hispanics, not now any more but in November, especially after the enthusiastic endorsement by Hispanic Bill Richardson.

Bill Richardson's endorsement of Barack Obama is due to the negativity of the kitchen-sink atrategy by the clinton's and it is coming back to bite them (the clintos')in their rear asses!!! ahahah

Soon Hilary will endorse obama, you watch and see!

it's true that falwell's comments about 9-11 being retribution for america's "liberal sins" (or whatever he said) mirror those of pastor wright. so why isn't there the same outrage at mccain for supporting him? well there's one big difference and no one's talking about it from what i've seen. people are, i think, not as disturbed by WHAT wright says in those sermons, but HOW HE SAYS IT.

because let's face it, it's a cultural thing to some extent; a lot of whites are uncomfortable with the whole screaming pastor on the pulpit thing. when falwell said his BS about 9-11, he was calm, collected and on national TV. i know it's not the only factor in this controversy, but i see it playing a BIG unseen role in how white people are perceiving this whole mess.

i'm white and because of the style church i went to as a kid, i'm not into the screaming pastors, but i see it in context and it's not gonna sway my vote at all. obama's my man.

I haven't the foggest idea who you are. I haven't the foggest idea why any one would care what you think. Your comments about Obama were petty, and as most of his critics must do, nit picking.

I don't know if you are a member of the political intelligencia or not.I know you are intellectually dishonest as is most of the media when it comes to Sen. Obama. If you were honest when you were discussing stratgic voting you would have pointed out that this is a strategy that the Obama campaign has used throughtout the primary. They have "invited" Republicans and Independents to become a Democrat for a day to crush Hillary once and for all. Unfortunately, that would not fit the narrative that the media has been carefully constructing around the miracle man. Either you don't want to incur the wrath of his followers or economically the media wants Obama's demographic I don't know which it is but it is not honest.

Stumped,

I'm generally a fan of your work, but you've got it wrong regarding Obama's speech.

You claim that Obama didn't "squarely address the issue", but in fact he did. It's just that his answer can't be easily shrink-wrapped into a sound-bite or a headline. Listen to the speech, read the transcript. His argument is essentially that the issue is too complex to have, pardon the pun, a black and white answer that can be easily digested. He embraced the good in Rev. Wright without vilifying the bad. To me, this is exactly the kind of carefully considered, honest position that I want to see my leaders take on all complicated issues.

Consider for example, the WaPo editorial proclaiming that the Democratic candidates 'just don't get it' regarding Iraq. You want nuance and profound understanding regarding Iraq, but not race? What about health care? The economy?

Instead of filtering the complex and difficult issues facing the nation down to their most divisive and diametrically opposed parts, the role of the media should be to inform the electorate and challenge them to understand their world in more than single sentences, factiods and yes/no answers. Instead, you're encouraging the candidates give us all the easy way out, the Cliff Notes version, which does a great disservice to the democratic process and the nation at large.

datdamwuf, hi
The Obama campaign solicits SINCERE votes from Republicans and Independents, i.e. those who want him to win in November, not lose to McCain as is the admitted goal of Rush, etc.

Written fairly by Andres Martinez (a change for the Wash. Post.)

Obama used his IMPASTOR-Rev. Wrong to spread falsehoods and ill will re: Hillary and her campaign not only through this powerful Chicago Chruch, but across the South and across the Country through many Churches and Pastors through IMPASTOR Wright's position as head of the AFRICAN-AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE WITHIN OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN.

This is the true explanation of the loss of significant support for Hillary's campaign from African-Americans which disappeared overnight rather than the media instilled notion that it was Bill Clinton's innocent and very brief folly in South Carolina.

Followers attend church regularly not political rallies. They also listen to the rhetoric more closely from their pastor. Quite devious on Obama's part to use a place of worship to spew hate to win a nomination. This is the only explanation for Obama HI-JACKING over 90% of the black vote.

As you say in your article, one would think Hillary was a CONSERVATIVE Republican. It is unfortunate that African-Americans drew first blood in making this a race about race. Whites were voting for Obama in percentages ranging from 40 to 65% in many states all over the country. Clearly Whites were not playing the race card. I'm baffled why blacks would after everything The Clintons have been about. Their trajectory of diversity, inclusiveness, equality for African-Americans, other minorities, all Americans, true uniters. Unlike Obama who makes "speeches" about One America, but, uses wrong "solutions" from Rev. Wrong?

Republicans who voted for Senator Obama in the early caucuses and primaries were involved in mischief. To think that a person who is Republican would vote for the most liberal senator is ludicrous. He'll bring them together with hope? Right, and the Easter bunny will show up with eggs and candy in a few days. Obama supporters are so naive, it's no wonder the Senator appeals to them. He can pull the wool over their eyes any time he wants. They are blind, emotional supporters. He has been marketed to be "the one." He, in fact, is one of many.

Where were you. MacDaddy-- when men burned US Flag ON the US soil IN the USA.
A preacher is a preacher as he preach BIBLE. For few ssentecnces you dont DUMP your preacher--ARE WE THAT SHALLOW???

Narroo minded people fail to progress--go back to tilling your farms.MacDaddy.
This is the land of the FREE and the BRAVE. It has First Amendmend Rights.

You are wrong about the effect of Obama's statement on race relations. It has already helped stanch the flow of voters away from him and, as the message spreads, it still to win people back. The country is ready for some maturity after years of "gotcha" politics. Right now in America we are seeing what "gotcha" getsya.

I personally don't believe in or feel anything they(religious persons of ANY creed) say has a basis in reality at all and as far as all the political speech i could care less.
those people are not educated in the sciences...they are stuck in a stone age philosophy that has no bearing on reality.
GOD ha what a joke not logical at all

you cant god damn with a something that doesn't even exist!!! GET REAL ARE YOU ALL 6 YR OLD IMBECILE CHILDREN

svreader:
My response to Rezko isn't the pictures Clinton has with him, it's the Hu, stupid.
The already convicted felon/ Clinton fundraiser.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118826947048110677.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

or this guy.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/20/clinton-donor-charged-with-impersonating-lawyer-police-officer/

Here's my question: Why does cynicism concerning the intelligence of working class citizens pass for "objective" politcal analysis these days?

Has anyone watched or read the full text of Rev Wright's controversial sermons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ

Please view this then ask yourself if you are not being manipulated by Fox.

"It won't Help" - Did you for get to tell Bill RIchardson and his constituents?

Everything you say is all too true which illustrates the awefulness of our system for choosing candidates. I am sick and tired of choosing between a candidate you can't win and a candidate who can't do the job.

Obama's speech won't help in blue collar area's if people don't bother to read the whole speech and see that he understands White resentment with affirmative action and busing et.al..

Funny how all the pudits skip over that segment of his speech. Perhaps it's a calculated one to ignore it?

I disagree with you.

Obama talks to Americans as if they are intelligent adults.

You caricature bluecollar workers as dumb and ignorant.

Saying Obama is "too black" implies Americans are totally racist.

I don't think this is true of the majority of us.

We'll see who is right.

Please, please, please stop perpetuating the notion that Obama's nuanced understanding of race relations in America is somehow too intellectual for working-class people to understand. His speech was accessible and vivid, and more importantly, directly opposed to the reductive and sound-byte notion of race that the media so often pedal.

For the past eight years now, we've had a "folksy" President incapable of expressing shades of meaning. Do the media actually want another one? If not, stop arguing that Obama can't appeal to middle- and working-class Americans. If you say he's too smart--the candidate of the intelligentsia--people will believe it, and then we'll be stuck with another idiot in office.

Obama's speech won't matter? To whom? Of course it won't matter to those who already oppose him. Indeed the whole race-angle gives that group plenty of ammunition to fire, and they're using it as we speak. On the opposite side, his supporters will overwhelmingly remain with him in this row and even come to his defense - as they're doing. That leaves the 'fence-sitters', fickle-switchers & undecides and political-manipulators (e.g., superdelegates).

Little do the American public know that this 'democratic' election process is something of a circus-act put on by very powerful and big-monied ruling circles that has as it's main intstrument of mass political manipulation, the MAINSTREAM MEDIA!

Hardly anyone stops to carefully consider, muchless actively support, who would be the BEST President (among the choices given) for not only America but the U.S. in the context of the rest of the WORLD!

Any objective-seeking and fair-minded person would conclude BARACK HUSSEIN (yes, I said it) OBAMA stands out among the rest in fitting the above criteria.

Mr. Obama could not rack up the winning primary and caucus contest he has - not to mention the vast WORLD-WIDE endorsements in Europe, Asia, Africa and beyond - if there wasn't a perception on the vast part of Americans, AND the world community, that this man represents the possibility of a better U.S. direction, domestically and abroad.

That truth is irrefutable.

No matter how this election turns out, 'pandora's box' WILL continue to be forced open, and all the fear-mongering, tricks, hypocrisy and petty non-issue distractions will have to give way to real HOPE & CHANGE for the better... for all concerned.

>> Mr. J.

The one drop rule was not instituted after the civil war, but well before it.

hidmig: the vast majority of those Republicans who voted for Obama actually do intend to vote for him in November - BIG difference.

Writing on the wall people - Republicans at first going on conservative shows saying 'oh yeah, Obama would be easier to beat', then telling their voters to vote for Hillary (cos she is easier to beat - as the polls kept saying consistently for a while - ignore what is going on now - it's all a mess and probably being messed with), then Murdoch and Rove coming out to strengthen Hillary.

This tells you Obama is the biggest threat to the status quo, the GOP and if you listen closely enough you hear a voice saying 'well, we've got both Clinton and McCain on board with what we want - the people think they have a choice but as you know we've given them another 'we win' and 'we win'. When 'they' win - the average American people lose.

Or maybe it was called the National Review - NR in the name anyway - and obviously Republican rag.

Why do you block my comments? Nevertheless, svreader is able to post, though there is no word of truth in any of his comments. Because he always contradict himself short while after any comment is posted,it is fully obvious. And such behavior can only diminish the chances of his candidate-Mrs. Clinton. Though, of course, her own behavior on her own behalf currently does exactly the same, does it not?

"I have to disagree with republicans voting in a dem. primary. that sounds like sabotage to me."

Obama got the reverse effect in the earlier primaries when Republicans voted for him to vote against Hillary. In fact, the Obama campaign encouraged Nevada Republicans to register as Democrat to vote against Hillary in the primary informing them they would still have time to switch back to Republican in the fall. They ran radio adds describing the process. As with much about the Obama campaign, there is always a double standard. It is OK for Republicans to vote for him to defeat Hillary, but it is sabotage when the reverse is done.

I have concluded that none of this back-and-forth, hoo-hah, wishful thinking claptrap means anything. Let me explain: For the past week, pundits from Limbaugh to Scarborough to Matthews to the dismal dittoheads at Fox News have been hyperventilating about how this virtually sinks Obama's chances. Yet, CBS releases a poll this morning showing Obama leading McCain by 5 points in a head-to-head matchup. And latest tracking polls show him now gaining back what he had lost last week in his national polling with Hillary Clinton.

I think you blog people are just like Limbaugh. You are seeing what you want to see. Remember the old quote: The wish becomes father to the thought? And think about this. If Obama can still lead McCain after all of this in a head-to-head matchup, imagine what the polls would show if Hillary were no longer a factor. That is why national polls are meaningless until a dem candidate is selected.

I wager that once the dust settles and the dems have a candidate, whoever it is is going to end up in the mid 50 range with McCain in the low 40s. That 42% number seems to be his ceiling.

Idiot-svreader, I saved your comment about half of year ago where you introduced himself as Black man. No word in any comment of yours could be ever trusted, could it not?

Obama didn't lose Texas, he won there substantially more delegates than Mrs. Clinton did. So, with his obvious and also substantial lead in popular votes overall the primary in Texas was his clean victory. CNN has advertised it so alredy.
Bill richardson endorsement is the best illustration for the notion that Mrs.Clinton's actions against Obama have brough her already the solid and essential hatred of all minority's group in the USA. If Bill Richardson, minority-himself, but the fieceful loyalist of Clintons chose to endorse Obama now, it confirms this notion "beyond any reasonable doubt". The faster Mrs. Clinton steps down from the primary race, which she, certainly, can't win, the better for her own behalf. Nobody can consider her now seriously, as a possible nominee, when she has such solid hatred and anti-support of all minority racial groups in the USA-the main voters of Democratic Party.

"Voters have a right to engage in such strategic 'negative' voting."

People have a right to do many, many things that are morally corrupt. That's why there are Republicans.

The Obama speech was clearly a recap of America's "improbable experiment" of framing ideals of democracy based on law at the beginning of our growing nation. It is unfortunate that Obama, while interjecting negative WORDS to remind America of her imperfect execution and enforcement of those Constitutional Laws, also reminded America