Drop Out Already, Hillary

Rendell??? Ugh!!!! I'm a Pennsylvanian and I can't stand Governor "Thug" Rendell. If you want governor's experience, why not Janet Napolitano of Arizona? If Obama picks Rendell, I might just give up on his judgement and vote for McCain (unless he chooses Mr. Putmydogontheroofofmycar Romney) - then I won't know what to do! Decent choices for Obama are Napolitano, Clark, Richardson, Feinstein. A particularly damaging (to the Democrats) choice by McCain would be Haley Barber. He seems to have been doing well as governor of Mississippi and could thwart inroads by Obama into the solid south.

So what are you saying, bigtimeohioan?

Can someone PLEEZE tell Bill Clinton to go away?

Let's again clear the major lies about obama's "great strength" and "great political victories"

he LOST

California [after Zogby had him winning on election day by 13 % points]

Ohio [by 84 out of 88 counties and 10% of total vote...CNN DID NOT EVEN COUNT CLEVELAND BEFORE THEY CALLED THE RACE ...this is how huge the demographic win for hillary won..and not all were dumb white guys]

Pa...after a MONTH LONG INTENSE MULITILLION DOLLAR CAMPAIGN W PHILA making up 20% of the vote almost Hillary WINS BY 10% ...no kidding..it was very very hard fought i was there]

Indiana...after questionable four hour "late" returns which even CNN begin to question in ONLY BLACK COUNTIES

Hillary wins ...and a win is a win in every political campaign i've been in

especially when it borders on one's home state

WVA MAJOR CLINTON LANDSLIDE no "major spin" by Hillary here...just the facts

and tell the WVA citizen they are a bunch of hicks and red necks...or

Gov Joe Manchin who looks are like a movie star and is the HEAD OF THE NATIONAL GOV ASSOCIATION THIS YEAR AND IS BI PARTISIAN...

and where a guy named Rockefeller lives and breathes and backed Obama MONTHS AGO

not too mention the popular vote in Texas, New York New Jersey and Tenn and Arksansas and Oklahoma and New Mexico and
Nevada [even their caucus amazing]

and a few "eat it ted" eastern states like
Mass and Rhode Island

and ...something called
umg...i forgot

another "Zogby by 13 for Obama" state

called

I think New Hampshire or something

o..maybe we...forgot about that one

did we not?

tell me one more time about how the

dems adopted proportional delegate counting for the black urban centers of our primaries

and i will tell you how obama has the lead after

LOSING ALMOST EVERY MAJOR STATE IN THIS NATION

and will be losing KY and Puerto Rico very very soon...by major numbers as well

but somehow is WAY AHEAD IN PROPORTIONAL DELEGATE COUNTS

he is truly proud to be the FIRST
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENT
NOMINEE, TRULY?

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO WATCH CLINTON AND HER DESPERATE CAMPAIGN IMPLODING !!!!

You are right, amazing.

By having 2 minorities strongly supported as candidates, it shows we as a whole are ready for a change. We should respect the differences and embrace our common goals at every point during this election.

How, if its "you Clinton supporters" "us Obmama supporters" or "Those Barack supporters" and "us Hillary supporters" can there be unity? It seems the party, ideas and people are divided and may stay so, even if the winner is clear to everyone. Maybe the population has grown enough to create a 3rd, very credible party (got me what) but I was thinking, even if Hillary dropped out so all can unite, that it unfortunately won't happen (in the idealist sense of the word). Frustration, differences, will still exist... Its not about sore losers, but, those who do "lose" will effectively not be reprented. People, of all supporters, all parties, just want to be heard. Unity should be happening now. Kinda the idea of untiy in diversity. you and I may think different and thats Ok. Or not the idea that Clinton or Obama are wrong, just different -as people are- and perhaps both very qualified. The idealist situation is to chose a person (qualified) that best represents you. With that point of view, there doesn't have to be so much division amongst the supporters.

For the comment a bit down about Hillary blowing up her win as huge in Indiana. I have gotton on both candidates email newsletters and he note that I read, from Clinton camp actually just said how they did win, not really barely, but not that they took them by storm.. just that see, every votes counts.. It seemed a fair way to present it..

I have not taken a stand for either candidate and am still trying to understand the political process as well as the enormous task it is to run our country - so many things to consider, and do.

I always thought, when our current President won, at about 51% that though he won by majority, what our democrocy voting supports... 49% of the country was not sure on him. To me, that spelled we did need to learn to understand each other a bit better...

Generally when a nominee drops out they have been the clear "loser" (25% of vote or less) and yet I can't help but think of sprts, which this country generally follows with passion... even if the losing team could never catch up, the game is not called. Everyone completes the game. In the end, the losing team still congratulates the winner...and the winners can decide if they were up against a formidable component and adjust their game accordingly (winners both still practice, and strive to be better even if they took an indisputable lead).

Mr. Obama is running his own "get the vote out" intiative. Of course he hopes those he helps will vote for him, but it is still about the votes... no, not just the votes.. but the people's voices. Communication. Perhaps he will come out the winner.. perhaps more than by 2%.... but people feel very strongly for his opponent as well. And that needs to be considered... and respected. There is something in his opponents message that resonates with someone... almost a half population split of someones.

It also crossed my mind that my spouse has gone overseas for more than a year to share our vision of deomocracy.. for the peace and all of that... but, we want other nations to learn about, and embrace our idea of democracy... where the people have a voice, rather than just the leaders....

A few other points of views: American is founded on a competetive spirit. Many advances in our lives have taken place because of competition.. going to the end no matter... the railroads are one that I can think of, land rush, gold rush are a few others.. these are part of our history and advancement.

Also, Mr. Obama is running to "vote for change" which supports two more things (even if its not realized).... change won't happen overnight... perhaps he is fighting against all the old ways.. but, the old ways still exist and butting heads doesn't usually make it go away lightly... acknowleding other ways, antiquated or not exist.. and demoonstrating his way, the new way, will get further than forcing the idea that the old way is wrong.. so what if he let the "old timers" do their thing and he did his... and the people can see the differences and decide which they prefer.. in the end if may be him.. perhaps clearly....

And if Mr. Obama is a voice for change.. then perhaps it is critical to allow his opponent to run til the clock sayse time is out... It does seem the "old way" for the "loser" to back down.... and if we all agree a change is in store, then perhaps it is thebest new way to let the opponent run til the clock runs out.. let her supporters have their say.. let Americans have their voice... and then, move forward after all the results are in.

It seems, even if Clinton is losing her stride, that she... and more importantly her supporters should still be heard. In the end, she may still have to shake her opponents hand and say "good game"...but, them in the spirit American was founded on.. and in the spririt we hope America can go forward with.. both competition and respect, different ideas and unity... perhaps, if we all do have a voice.. it will finally be the CHANGE we all seek....

You're wrong Kay. Us Obama supporters would want the right thing to happen, that's what the Clinton supporters don't like about us--our morals. Doesn't belong in politics. Not tough enough. Not verbal enough. Not defensive enough. Not mean enough. Too liberal. Too soft. Let me ask this. Isn't "Tough Enough", "Defensive Enough", and "Experienced Enough" three of the guys that got us into the mess of ruins and debt we find ourselves in?, here and overseas? Perhaps we need someone with no experience and who is "soft" and "fair".

Just because some of you guys think you are better and can't stand up to adversity and don't have any courage, you shouln't threaten and try to push Hillary out like you've tried since Massachusetts. Bullying is not nice. Hillary should stay in the race. If they push her out as they've tried all along that is the bell of doom for the Democrat party, sooner rather than later.

The Democrat party has been the party of minorities. Women are not a minority, just treated like they are still. The people who think they are better and know what is good for me (like Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson and so on) don't speak for me and never will.

The aforementioned guys don't seem to like women in power. Maybe they're chauvinists? Look at their past history. In my opinion Ted Kennedy had no respect for women, especially Mary Jo Kopechne. Then Chris Dodd couldn't stand for a woman to be right when he was wrong. Bill Richardson doesn't like a woman being at the top. Nancy Pelosi broke the marble ceiling and maybe doesn't want Hillary Clinton to top her and so on. What are Nancy's real ambitions?

If they force Hillary to quit, many of the women will look elsewhere. If they're bullying and threatening Hillary now what will they do to the rest of us who don't have anyone to stand up for and with us?

Now Obama and his surrogates are crying that Hillary might point out his weaknesses. Trust me, the Republicans already know and are biding their time.

Alright, I just can't get over all these Clinton supporters sitting there saying Clinton is winning this race because she has the big states. And how Obama is threatening superdelegates to switch and blah blah blah... that's really all I see on the screen when I read you Clinton supporters.

Look, the numbers speak for themselves! Learn to add because last time I checked Obama has been steadily gaining superdelegates on a daily basis. Obama destroyed Clinton in NC and she just slid by with her win (which she of course chose to blow up as a huge victory for herself) in Indiana. And, last time I checked, she was the one trying to bribe superdelegates to come over to her side. Also, one last fact to note... Clinton would need to win every one of the remaining state primaries by a considerable margin to even potentially catch up to the state delegates that Obama has currently. That WILL NOT happen... I'm sorry to say it, but it simply will not happen. She may win 3 of the remaining 6, but face it. She is finished.

So, my final statement is directed towards Hillary Clinton and Clinton supporters; Please Hillary, stop being the stubborn politician that you are and stop living in denial. Face it, the race is finished. The Democrats have their nominee and he is Obama. So DROP OUT ALREADY HILLARY and allow the Democratic party to unite and prepare for the fight against McCain in the Fall! Thank you.

Alright, I just can't get over all these Clinton supporters sitting there saying Clinton is winning this race because she has the big states. And how Obama is threatening superdelegates to switch and blah blah blah... that's really all I see on the screen when I read you Clinton supporters.

Look, the numbers speak for themselves! Learn to add because last time I checked Obama has been steadily gaining superdelegates on a daily basis. Obama destroyed Clinton in NC and she just slid by with her win (which she of course chose to blow up as a huge victory for herself) in Indiana. And, last time I checked, she was the one trying to bribe superdelegates to come over to her side. Also, one last fact to note... Clinton would need to win every one of the remaining state primaries by a considerable margin to even potentially catch up to the state delegates that Obama has currently. That WILL NOT happen... I'm sorry to say it, but it simply will not happen. She may win 3 of the remaining 6, but face it. She is finished.

So, my final statement is directed towards Hillary Clinton and Clinton supporters; Please Hillary, stop being the stubborn politician that you are and stop living in denial. Face it, the race is finished. The Democrats have their nominee and he is Obama. So DROP OUT ALREADY and allow the Democratic party to unite and prepare for the fight against McCain in the Fall! Thank you.

Alright, I just can't get over all these Clinton supporters sitting there saying Clinton is winning this race because she has the big states. And how Obama is threatening superdelegates to switch and blah blah blah... that's really all I see on the screen when I read you Clinton supporters.

Look, the numbers speak for themselves! Learn to add because last time I checked Obama has been steadily gaining superdelegates on a daily basis. Obama destroyed Clinton in NC and she just slid by with her win (which she of course chose to blow up as a huge victory for herself) in Indiana. And, last time I checked, she was the one trying to bribe superdelegates to come over to her side. Also, one last fact to note... Clinton would need to win every one of the remaining state primaries by a considerable margin to even potentially catch up to the state delegates that Obama has currently. That WILL NOT happen... I'm sorry to say it, but it simply will not happen. She may win 3 of the remaining 6, but face it. She is finished.

So, my final statement is directed towards Hillary Clinton and Clinton supporters; Please Hillary, stop being the stubborn politician that you are and stop living in denial. Face it, the race is finished. The Democrats have their nominee and he is Obama. So DROP OUT ALREADY and allow the Democratic party to unite and prepare for the fight against McCain in the Fall! Thank you.

It is a sad day in American history when our Democratic country does not allow people in these United States to vote. We not only preach to other countries about our Democratic process and how everyone has a say and that money cannot buy a country's' leader yet here and now in our society this is exactly what is happening. Is the media being bought off and are they prejudiced in their portrayal of each candidate? Yes, and their fairness and portraying the news have been altered and manipulated and misconstrued. Never in America history has a candidate for Presidency for these United States been so poorly treated, vastly misquoted, prejudged and insulted as to their integrity, honesty, and devotion to this country than in the instance of Hillary Clinton.

The young voters are smart and are starting to realize that this campaign has not been fair, democratic and that the media has manipulated them and their voices are not being heard. It would not surprise anyone if there was demonstrations on all college campuses across this country in favor of Hillary Clinton. Martin Luther King once said, "The people of this United States of America will guide this country forward, on a path that will unite us all!" Gender and race does not play this ticket any longer, only the best candidate for Presidency of this United States, one the American people can be proud of, one that will take us on that forward path that will not only unite us but lead us to the future! The American people are speaking, their voice is being heard, and the media needs to start listening. God Bless America and we pray for her to become united at last. "America, fly your flags high and proudly outside your homes, register to vote, walk a mile for your candidate, bring this country back to the Democratic process that is fair and just and let your voice be heard!

It is a sad day in American history when our Democratic country does not allow people in these United States to vote. We not only preach to other countries about our Democratic process and how everyone has a say and that money cannot buy a country's' leader yet here and now in our society this is exactly what is happening. Is the media being bought off and are they prejudiced in their portrayal of each candidate? Yes, and their fairness and portraying the news have been altered and manipulated and misconstrued. Never in America history has a candidate for Presidency for these United States been so poorly treated, vastly misquoted, prejudged and insulted as to their integrity, honesty, and devotion to this country than in the instance of Hillary Clinton.

The young voters are smart and are starting to realize that this campaign has not been fair, democratic and that the media has manipulated them and their voices are not being heard. It would not surprise anyone if there was demonstrations on all college campuses across this country in favor of Hillary Clinton. Martin Luther King once said, "The people of this United States of America will guide this country forward, on a path that will unite us all!" Gender and race does not play this ticket any longer, only the best candidate for Presidency of this United States, one the American people can be proud of, one that will take us on that forward path that will not only unite us but lead us to the future! The American people are speaking, their voice is being heard, and the media needs to start listening. God Bless America and we pray for her to become united at last. "America, fly your flags high and proudly outside your homes, register to vote, walk a mile for your candidate, bring this country back to the Democratic process that is fair and just and let your voice be heard!

It is a sad day in American history when our Democratic country does not allow people in these United States to vote. We not only preach to other countries about our Democratic process and how everyone has a say and that money cannot buy a country's' leader yet here and now in our society this is exactly what is happening. Is the media being bought off and are they prejudiced in their portrayal of each candidate? Yes, and their fairness and portraying the news have been altered and manipulated and misconstrued. Never in America history has a candidate for Presidency for these United States been so poorly treated, vastly misquoted, prejudged and insulted as to their integrity, honesty, and devotion to this country than in the instance of Hillary Clinton.

The young voters are smart and are starting to realize that this campaign has not been fair, democratic and that the media has manipulated them and their voices are not being heard. It would not surprise anyone if there was demonstrations on all college campuses across this country in favor of Hillary Clinton. Martin Luther King once said, "The people of this United States of America will guide this country forward, on a path that will unite us all!" Gender and race does not play this ticket any longer, only the best candidate for Presidency of this United States, one the American people can be proud of, one that will take us on that forward path that will not only unite us but lead us to the future! The American people are speaking, their voice is being heard, and the media needs to start listening. God Bless America and we pray for her to become united at last. "America, fly your flags high and proudly outside your homes, register to vote, walk a mile for your candidate, bring this country back to the Democratic process that is fair and just and let your voice be heard!

It is a sad day in American history when our Democratic country does not allow people in these United States to vote. We not only preach to other countries about our Democratic process and how everyone has a say and that money cannot buy a country's' leader yet here and now in our society this is exactly what is happening. Is the media being bought off and are they prejudiced in their portrayal of each candidate? Yes, and their fairness and portraying the news have been altered and manipulated and misconstrued. Never in America history has a candidate for Presidency for these United States been so poorly treated, vastly misquoted, prejudged and insulted as to their integrity, honesty, and devotion to this country than in the instance of Hillary Clinton.

The young voters are smart and are starting to realize that this campaign has not been fair, democratic and that the media has manipulated them and their voices are not being heard. It would not surprise anyone if there was demonstrations on all college campuses across this country in favor of Hillary Clinton. Martin Luther King once said, "The people of this United States of America will guide this country forward, on a path that will unite us all!" Gender and race does not play this ticket any longer, only the best candidate for Presidency of this United States, one the American people can be proud of, one that will take us on that forward path that will not only unite us but lead us to the future! The American people are speaking, their voice is being heard, and the media needs to start listening. God Bless America and we pray for her to become united at last. "America, fly your flags high and proudly outside your homes, register to vote, walk a mile for your candidate, bring this country back to the Democratic process that is fair and just and let your voice be heard!

HILLARY CLINTON CONTINUES TO WIN >>THE BIG STATES DON"T WANT OBAMA IF HE CAN"T WIN THE REAL STORY OF THIS ELECTION IS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL NOT COUNT ALL THE VOTES AND THERE ARE NO RULES TO DISQUALIFY ALL VOTES FORM A STATE THAT WENT OUT OF TURN IN A PRIMARY>>THEY MADE IT UP TO SWAY THE ELECTION!! MICHIGAN DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE POMPASS JERK OBAMA WHO WILL BE VISITING YOUR STATE SOON TO CAMPAIGN AS IF HE IS THE WINNING CANDIDAT!! HE IS NOT!! REMEMBER THE IDIOT DISENFRANCHISED ALL YOUR VOTES AND FLORIDA HE WILL BE COMING THERE TOO!! TELL HIM TO GET LOST AS HE WOULD NOT AGREE TO A REVOTE WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE PAID FOR. HE SAID NO TO YOUR VOTES AND GAVE YOU ONE CHOICE HIM .THE SHADY SNEAKY LIAR THAT HE IS >>THE UNExPERIENCED>TELL HIM TO GO HOME >>HILLARY WILL BE THERE FOR YOU!!! HILLARY GO INDEPENDENT IF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS TO SWAY THE OUTCOME!!! START THE "AMERICAN PARTY" WHERE ALL 50 STATES ARE COUNTED FOR THE WAY THEY VOTED! MICHIGAN DON"T LET THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOVE A TAINTED Barack Huessein Obama down your throats when they would not HONOR YOUR VOTES FOR HILLARY!! TELL OBAMA TO GO HOME! GO TO RALLIES BRING SIGNS AND TELL HIM WE WANT HILLARY!!GO HOME OBAMA WHERE EVER THAT MAYBE!! HILLARY 2008! THERE IS NO SECOND CHOICE HILLARY 2008!

After reading this thread, it appears that Rush Limbaugh's "Operation chaos" is working: the Democratic party is divided, getting more bitter, and talking about writing Hillary in. Congratulations all, you have fallen for a new type of Republican dirty trick!

why should Hillary drop out uf the race ,because the msm told us to or because hollywood went for Obama or snl All of his money is not from small donations he has hedge funds if you go to the dictionary you will find out the meaning of the words How about Axelrod"s connection to Mayor Daly dirty politics

West Virginia Voters !! - Want to maintain Your record for picking the next President??!! - Then, better vote for Obama on May 11th, or You lose! It might be aprimary, but You West Virginians will be "Wrong" if you vote for Clinton. Oh well ---

It is time for McCain to withdraw from the race. He is ineligible to occupy the Oval Office because he was not born in the U.S. I was one who didn't know he was not born in the U.S. or its territories. Like Arnold Schwarzenneger, McCain has reached the highest position that he is legally qualified for. His position on the issues is only important in the senate.
How is it that the only recipients of the Medal of Honor,are deceased. There must be a great number of Vets serving, and have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, that have earned the right to receive the Medal of Honor.

Obamas campain and his associates have to threaten superdelegates to switch to him. What does that say about him. His associates are questionable

What I'd Say?
(Key of E)

...Tell your mama, tell your pa
I'm gonna send you back to Arkansas
Oh yes, ma'm, you don't do right, don't do right...

After reading this thread, it appears that Rush Limbaugh's "Operation chaos" is working: the Democratic party is divided, getting more bitter, and talking about writing Hillary in. Congratulations all, you have fallen for a new type of Republican dirty trick!

At the end of the day. It take only one vote ahead to win any contest or race.

Andres, your vitriol is disturbing but your self-importance is laughable. You are indeed part of the "media" which is a far cry from being a journalist. I'm convinced bloggers are frustrated, unemployable faux journalists who add nothing to the public discourse about important issues. Rather, they mimic the self-important blathering style of a Bill O'Reilly. Who cares what anyone who has to "blog" for a living thinks? Try doing something meaningful like the investigative jounalists that used to be the guts of the Post. Katherine Graham is rolling in her grave.

All but not me ...But not me. That seems to be Hillary's motto ... There is a question which is henceforth entering the minds of the millions of people following the fiery battle between the two surviving Democrats for the party's Presidential nomination: Is Hillary Clinton really a Democrat?Senator Clinton has, unfortunately, led and continues to lead a campaign which focuses not on what she believes, on her politics or on what she sees as her main ambition for the American people, but rather on the methods that she uses to sustain in the race and obtain power. American history has taught us that this strategy to obtain power is part of the GOP mentality, which functions as if it alone should hold legitimate power in the United States, and as if this claim entitles it to use whatever means it could to accomplish this plan. Would we consider that she could be an unintentional defector from GOP? Does her Democratic Party membership represent really no more than the ups and downs of history rather than a true political conviction? What if her adolescent immersion in GOP values left an indelible mark on her, which the later companionship and ultimate marriage with Bill Clinton could not erase? It is true that politics is not for the candid and tender-hearted, as both Bill and Hillary Clinton have stated. But ... Great God... this rage for power... does it imply that for them - pardon - for her, that nothing is above this thirst for power ... neither family nor the party in which she has "accidently" found accommodation, nor ... oh, I tremble ... nor even the country into which she was born and raised?

What is the O'Bama campaign afraid of? Let the race play out in a nice way. Obviously if the tables were turned and O'Bama was the last man standing and fighting on, all of you would want for "hope's" sake for him to carry on. There are millions of voters who have and continue to support Hillary. All of this bashing her and beating the "get out" drums, the DNC and the SUPER/DUPER delegates trying to orbitrarily end the race are the ones dividing this party. We will remain HOPEFUL, and carry right on to November and CAST OUR WRITE IN VOTE - Everyone seems to discount that a Hillary vote is NOT because she is white or female, but because we think she is a better leader to carry this country forward to get us out of IRAQ, HEALTHCARE to ALL, TURN ECONOMY AROUND, end NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND, AMEND NAFTA, and change the world's view of America. We will remain hopeful all the way to NOVEMBER and cast our WRITE-IN VOTE if necessary

Republican Presidency: I'll see you a War in the middle-east, and raise you a second war in the middle east!

Democratic Presidency: Focus on fighting against those that actually attack you.

Republican Presidency: Let's not call it a recession, let's call it a "slow down."

Democratic Presidency: Change

McCain says: "Vote for recession and war... wait, that doesn't work, guys, back to the drawing board, bring karl rove on board"

Former Hillary supporters,

remember that she would have you vote AGAINST recession and war.

At the end of the day, this is a DEMOCRACY folks. Here are the current popular vote totals:

Obama: 15,926,550
Hillary: 15,216,764

So those of you who are trying to create scenarios in which Hillary wins are in essence trying to suggest that your method of counting is better than the Democratic method. I would have to disagree with you on that.

CAN ANYONE DRAW?? I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A PICTURE OF OBAMA HOLDING A SIGN THAT SAYS "I AM PRESIDENT" STANDING IN FRONT OF A LINE OF AMERICAN ON THEIR WAY TO THE INCINERATOR LIKE HITLER DID TO THE JEWS..

GIVE OBAMA THE WHITE HOUSE AND GIVE AWAY THE USA!!

YOU KNOW I CANT WAIT FOR OBAMA TO GET INTO OFFICE.. I WONDER HOW LONG ITS GOING TO BE BEFORE HE DROPS A NUKE OVER THE USA?? ILL BE IN MEXICO LAUGHING AT ALL YOU IDIOTS.. OBAMA AND OSAMA WILL BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE LAUGHING..

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN $$$ TALKS IN A CAMPAIGN?

LET BE REAL, WHO IS MOST HONEST HILLARY OR OBAMA?..LET US DIG MORE FROM REV. JEREMIAH, HIS MIDDLE EAST ADVISOR, REZKO, HIS FRIEND AYERS, ETC...

LET WE OPEN OUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH IN OBAMA AND YOU WILL SURELY AGREE WITH ME, HILLARY IS THE ONE WHO SINCERELY CARE FOR AMERICANS!!! WHY MEDIA IS SO SWEET WITH OBAMA BECAUSE $$$ WALKS/WORKS!!!

AND WHO IS OBAMA'S MONEY MACHINE..THE HEDGE FUND PEOPLE !!!THE LOBBYISTS, THE OIL COMPANIES!!!THESE ARE ALL FACTS!!!

ALL WOMEN ARE WORTH THE FIGHT!!!

Taunting Clinton supporters does no good, but Clinton supporters should not take the work of Republicans in this thread, such as winterbottom, as anything but provocation to keep them polarized against their own party.

Right on, Sean!

Quote: (Wow, You just figured out what the empty space next to Write In Candidate ____________ is for? And I thought Hillary was being harsh in calling her supporters freaktards.)

LOL, no silly, I know what the line is for, but there are specific guidelines that have to be upheld in the election....that's what I meant by I just found out that "SHE" can be written in, and it not be against party rules.

By the way, you need to check the dictionary, there's no such word as 'freaktards'. You're soooo silly!!

"Hillary Clinton is a fighter. A profile in courage."

I Just projectile vomited. This is JFK's book. Who does his brother and daughter support?

Another Hillary Genius!!

"Yes drop out Hillary!!! We don't value democracy, we would rather bash you in a way that exposes our own psycho-social deficiencies. The reality is that Michigan and Florida, two states that have more than 30 million in population aren't worthy of having a voice because they have an electorate that does not favor our yet to be crowned diety the almighty Obama. So please Hillary won't you step aside so that we can commence with the destruction of what is left of our democracy?"

AND YET SHE'S BEHIND IN THE POPULAR VOTE--INCLUDING MI AND FL--THAT IS DEMOCRATIC YOU BIZARRE FREAK!!!!!! NEVER MIND THE PLEDGE SHE SIGNED THAT FL AND MI WOULDN'T COUNT. AND OBAMA NOT BEING ON THE BALLOT IN MI IS DEMOCRATIC? OK REALLY, SLOW HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART, AGAIN....

SHE'S BEHIND IN THE POPULAR VOTE--INCLUDING MI AND FL

HILLARY SUPPORTERS = UNEDUCATED--SHE SAID IT HERSELF.......

Hillary seems to have some hidden agenda in her continuing with an already lost campaign. Has Hillary got a Tanya Harding call ringing in her head? We don't know. But when the whole world sees the winner already and she is not able to look in the mirror and say that she is looking at the reflection of a loser, something is wrong in her head. Only Dr.Phil can analyze her thinking process at this time. For the good of America Dr.Phil needs to get on a plane and land in the HillCamp to talk to Hillary. Dr.Phil therapy has cured many people with symptoms like Hillary's.

Obama will lose to an empty ballot in Kentucky and West Virginia that is how much he is losing by there. She has to stay on the ticket.

Anyone can be a victim of racism , of sexism. Hillary Clinton is a fighter. A profile in courage.

Yes drop out Hillary!!! We don't value democracy, we would rather bash you in a way that exposes our own psycho-social deficiencies. The reality is that Michigan and Florida, two states that have more than 30 million in population aren't worthy of having a voice because they have an electorate that does not favor our yet to be crowned diety the almighty Obama. So please Hillary won't you step aside so that we can commence with the destruction of what is left of our democracy?

If hillary had a nicer bum then hard working bum loving americans would have voted for her in larger numbers

"Republicans thrive on it, of course. Insult, humiliation, mockery being their standards."

Sadly, John McCain has behaved in a much more civil and respectful way toward Barack than Hillary has. When Obama and McCain are the nominees I believe we may finally move into a new era of civility. But Hillary Clinton has proven herself to be a vortex of evil bigger than Rove and Atwater combined and should be thrown into the gutter of history where she belongs.

I called the Election Board and asked if she can run as an Independent and was told no she can't....BUT......SHE CAN BE WRITTEN IN!!!

Wow, You just figured out what the empty space next to Write In Candidate ____________ is for? And I thought Hillary was being harsh in calling her supporters freaktards.

Thank you for saying it like it is - simple, direct. Hillary lost, Obama won. In spite of a tremendous effort to outrove Rove, to constantly morph into what she thought would get the votes - from teary to tearing - it backfired and she lost. This country will be free of dynasties come January. Let's move on, already.

Reply to cms1:

Good post. I think what is annoying the Obama supporters the most is that Hillary's campaign is resulting to Republican tactics which are actually hurting Obama. As the original letter said,
"It would be one thing to graciously jog on, as Mike Huckabee did for a while even after John McCain had clearly won. But to continue bashing Obama, in a way that undermines his stature as the party's eventual nominee, is quite another."

Well, Mr. Hegal, Hillary has rankled me to no end. There comes a time when the good of the country trumps personal ambition. Let me refer you to Mr. Colon Powell, certainly not overly ambitious, but he was willing to allow an unnecessary war to march forward when his opposition could have halted the process. Do you remember Karl Rove, way before the election season even commenced, saying Hillary would be the Republik party's dream candidate--just because she is an automatic polarizing persona. So, despite her personal ambition, her feelings of entitlement(??!) and her strategic positioning, she might have given a thought to the big picture before deciding to become the poster child for tenacity.

The main reason I will be glad when this primary process is over is so I won't have to read anymore of this hate talk about each of these candidates. Whew! What degenerate political talk has evolved in this country.
Republicans thrive on it, of course. Insult, humiliation, mockery being their standards.
And now, Democrats are doing it. I suppose it was inevitable given that every action creates an equal and opposite reaction.
And the long years of Republican action has now called forth a Democratic reaction of equal intensity. One can no longer tell one from another.
What's the difference between Republicans encircling Al Gore's Vice Presidencial residency and shouting "GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE!" and Democrats now encircling a candidate and shouting "GET OUT OF OUR PRIMARY ELECTIONS!" Nothing.
It is the picture of absurdity when Democrats attack their own after one candidate has, really, already won the nomination.
They cannot accept defeat and they cannot accept victory. And the Obama supporters cannot accept direction from their leader who has instructed them to be respectful to Senator Clinton and her supporters. Instead, they are raising the temperature. It's enough to make one wonder what they are really after.
They have won. It truly is impossible for Clinton to get this nomination. And yet, they will not let her continue to hang herself by her campaign tactics.
Are they so puffed up by their incredible victory that they now want to purge the Democratic Party of all old time politicians?
Are they really trying to drum Clinton out of the party, period?
Or, are they just so frightened of that weak paper tiger, McCain?
Or, are they so enamored of the good feelings they get from the fierce urgency of self-indulgence that they simply cannot stop thrashing their opponent? Maybe these are the kids who got trophies in little league when they lost.

When Hillary said Obama was overly ambitious because of a first grade essay, I thought how sad. When Hillary alleged drug use due to Obama's autobiography, I thought, how pathetic. When Hillary rushed to Florida to declare victory, I thought, how deluded and desperate. When Hillary lied about sniper fire in Bosnia, I thought, this woman has gone insane.

Probably pretty typical for a presidential candidate, but not really what I'm looking for.

Hillary brags about having the dumb white vote? And then we hear her supporters saying that if she is not the nominee then they are going to vote against their own principles and vote for McCain....THEY'VE PROVED IT....HOW DUMB..

Hands down the most honest and entertaining take on the state of the Democratic race!

Perhaps Obama could choose you as VP, and we'd all laugh our way into the White House!

At the end of the day, this is a DEMOCRACY folks. Here are the current popular vote totals:

Obama: 15,926,550
Hillary: 15,216,764

So those of you who are trying to create scenarios in which Hillary wins are in essence trying to suggest that your method of counting is better than the Democratic method. I would have to disagree with you on that.

TO EVERYONE FOR HILLARY!! I called the Election Board and asked if she can run as an Independent and was told no she can't....BUT......

SHE CAN BE WRITTEN IN!!!

I won't vote for "BO" or for the ole man, but I can vote for Hillary as a write in!!!

If you like this idea, please spread to all the other Democrats that don't want "BO" or McCain!!!!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HILLARY!!!!!!!

Let me remind you guys that no matter how much you criticize how delegates are counted, Obama is still leading substantially in the total vote count. So quit trying to make up new ways of counting stuff to make it look like Hillary is in the lead. It is really getting ridiculous. This article is 100% right.

Good news Dems !! Billary made the Top Ten .. check out the rest on the "The Beefs" ....

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The tragedy is that if both parties held ONLY primaries this would have been over and we could be comparing 'votability' equally. The DEMS Caucus and 'Super Delegates" need to go the way of the Electoral College... All three processes produce some level of disenfranchisement and have out grown the intended purpose... of course I also do not believe in the our lobby process in either.

I though the super delegates didn't count until the convention. As for the others, how is it right for Hillary win a state and Obama to get more delegates? How can one possibly compare NY or Florida to Kansas or California to Wyoming?

This is not baseball or a kid's race with toy cars. The size of the state is very important. I believe if they voted for Hillary and got cheated out of the delegates how could they trust these same Democrats in Washington. That would make Obama like GW Bush. I'm trying to figure out if I am a Democrat anymore. I know I am, so that means there is no Democrat party. I don't know what you call it.

Thank you, Gawksqawk, for having answered "the writer's original question." A serious question merits a serious answer.

Hillary has already proven that she will stop at nothing to gain the White House.

So if Barack chose her as his running mate (which I think is a stupid idea), I would think he would have to watch his back at all times.

To svreaderjr, LMAO, YalieWoman, ricroe, nadsi, etcetera.

What's the difference between a Clinton-hater and a full toilet?

You can flush the toilet.

From the NYT --

NOTABLE in the Indiana and North Carolina primary results and in many recent polls are signs of a change in the gender weather: white men are warming to Hillary Clinton -- at least enough to vote for her. It's no small shift. These men have historically been her fiercest antagonists. Their conversion may point less to a new kind of male voter than to a new kind of female vote-getter.

Pundits have been quick to attribute the erosion in Barack Obama's white male support to a newfound racism. What they have failed to consider is the degree to which white male voters witnessing Senator Clinton's metamorphosis are being forced to rethink precepts they've long held about women in American politics.

For years, the prevailing theory has been that white men are often uneasy with female politicians because they can't abide strong women. But if that's so, why haven't they deserted Senator Clinton? More particularly, why haven't they deserted her as she has become ever more pugnacious in her campaign?

Maybe the white male electorate just can't abide strong women whom they suspect of being of a certain sort. To adopt a particularly lamentable white male construct, the sports metaphor, political strength comes in two varieties: the power of the umpire, who controls the game by application of the rules but who never gets hit; and the power of the participant, who has no rules except to hit hard, not complain, bounce back and endeavor to prevail in the end.

For virtually all of American political history, the strong female contestant has been cast not as the player but the rules keeper, the purse-lipped killjoy who passes strait-laced judgment on feral boy fun. The animosity toward the rules keeper is fueled by the suspicion that she (and in American life, the regulator is inevitably coded feminine, whatever his or her sex) is the agent of people so privileged that they don't need to fight, people who can dominate more decisively when the rules are decorous. American political misogyny is inflamed by anger at this clucking overclass: who are they to do battle by imposing rectitude instead of by actually doing battle?

The specter of the prissy hall monitor is, in part, the legacy of the great female reformers of Victorian America. In fact, these women were the opposite of fainting flowers. Susan B. Anthony barely flinched in the face of epithets, hurled eggs and death threats. Carry A. Nation swung an ax. Yet they were regarded by men as the regulators outside the game. Indeed, many 19th-century female reformers defined themselves that way -- as reluctant trespassers in the public sphere who had left the domestic circle only to fulfill their duty as the morally superior sex, housekeepers scouring away a nation's vice.

While the populace might concede the merits of the female reformers' cause, it found them repellent on a more glandular level. In that visceral subbasement of the national imagination -- the one that underlies all the blood-and-guts sports imagery our culture holds so dear -- the laurels go to the slugger who ignores the censors, the outrider who navigates the frontier without a chaperone.

Certainly through the many early primaries, Hillary Clinton was often defined by these old standards, and judged harshly. She was forever the entitled chaperone. But that was then. As Thelma, the housewife turned renegade, says to her friend in "Thelma & Louise" as the two women flee the law through the American West, "Something's crossed over in me."

Senator Clinton might well say the same. In the final stretch of the primary season, she seems to have stepped across an unstated gender divide, transforming herself from referee to contender.

What's more, she seems to have taken to her new role with a Thelma-like relish. We are witnessing a female competitor delighting in the undomesticated fray. Her new no-holds-barred pugnacity and gleeful perseverance have revamped her image in the eyes of begrudging white male voters, who previously saw her as the sanctioning "sivilizer," a political Aunt Polly whose goody-goody directives made them want to head for the hills.

It's the unforeseen precedent of an unprecedented candidacy: our first major female presidential candidate isn't doing what men always accuse women of doing. She's not summoning the rules committee over every infraction. (Her attempt to rewrite the rules for Michigan and Florida are less a timeout than rough play.) Not once has she demanded that the umpire stop the fight. Indeed, she's asking for more unregulated action, proposing a debate with no press-corps intermediaries.

If anyone has been guarding the rules this election, it's been the press, which has been primly thumbing the pages of Queensberry and scolding her for being "ruthless" and "nasty," a "brawler" who fights "dirty."

But while the commentators have been tut-tutting, Senator Clinton has been converting white males, assuring them that she's come into their tavern not to smash the bottles, but to join the brawl.

Deep in the American grain, particularly in the grain of white male working-class voters, that is the more trusted archetype. Whether Senator Clinton's pugilism has elevated the current race for the nomination is debatable. But the strategy has certainly remade the political world for future female politicians, who may now cast off the assumption that when the going gets tough, the tough girl will resort to unilateral rectitude. When a woman does ascend through the glass ceiling into the White House, it will be, in part, because of the race of 2008, when Hillary Clinton broke through the glass floor and got down with the boys.

I've read through several posts, and am so surprised at the name-calling and deferential treatment on both sides. It saddens me to think that adults could be reduced to such a low level. I do want to thank those whose posts are intelligent and thoughtful. It's not entirely clear who the democratic candidate will be, although it does appear that Obama is leading. I would encourage you to read The Myth of the Maverick to help shed light on Mr. McCain. It's frightening.

Hillary's name -- anywhere -- on the ticket, even for dog-catcher, is a guarantee win for the Republicans, as it will energize the get-out-the-vote effort for them like nobody else can.

Everyone should stop feeling sorry for the Clintons -- especially after the way they've trashed Obama. They didn't have to do that, but they chose to.

Now, they want everyone to feel sorry for poor, little Hillary and jump thru all their hoops so they can get back in the WH and be adored once again by the public.

How selfish! How obscene, really.

Obama should implement his message of reconciliation by picking Clinton, who has added new Democrats and motivated millions of voters. Reconcile the personality differences and focus on GOALS to WIN THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. Too much talent in both candidates. They need to learn how to work together.

"The only thing i am going to say is that if Hillary does not get the nomination, my whole family and i would go vote republician."

I honestly don't understand this mentality. You are saying that if the candidate you don't support gets the nomination, you will vote for someone whose policies are nearly diametrically opposed to those of your preferred candidate.

I hope Senator Obama gets the nomination, but if Senator Clinton someone managed to finagle it, it's likely I would still hold my nose and vote for her.

"Shame on those who are trying to destroy Hillary, she is much more decent and honest than most of you"

I know Hillary personally and can attest to the fact that she is not more decent and honest than most...You don't know her--I asuume.

One of my best friends is an advisor to her on health care policy and although he is supportive of her plan--he also would certainly never call her honest.

Live in a fantasyland if you like but don't put other people down utilizing her as the measuring stick of honesty and decency.

I really think the delegates from Florida and Michigan should be shared evenly among all the candidates who ran. That way, those who dropped out can allocate their delegates to whomever they choose.

The next best situation is to split the delegate count evenly between the two survivors 50/50%. The chief tenet in our American system of justice is that no one can or should from any tort or illegal act.

Thus, by violating the Democratic Party rules, no-one can benefit unjustly. According to our laws, that means that the delegates will either have to be disregarded or distributed proportionately.

First of all, I am astonished with the outrageous and unfair campaign against Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. She is struggling to keep her campaign going, which is bad for some demagogues and populists who want Barak Obama as candidate to confront Senator John Mc Cain. Why Karl Rove and other neo-cons are giving advice and support to Obama? Why many independent had voted for Obama in Indiana, most of the republicans? Nevertheless, the fact of the matter, is that nobody knows who really is Mr. Obama, his track record, his real ideas? I don't have any clue about his background. His speeches are full of tailor made phrases, which he repeats constantly. I cannot believe that well educated college youngsters and professionals are so naïf to support the candidacy of a man who has many points in common with George Bush, the first one is a populist from the left, and he is dividing the American people according with their ethnic backgrounds, which is not the case of Mrs Clinton. Bush is a populist from the right, populism is a terrible decease in these days in many places in the world. But I cannot imagine a scenario where a populist maybe president of the USA. You can take if for granted if he is the nominee for the Democrats, John Mc Cain will prevail in November elections and will receive the support of lots of American middle class who are extremely afraid about a man who nobody can say, I know quite well him, do you know him deeply, and I doubt it. Speaking about the war in Iraq, he says now that he was always against the war, I was so against that I had written in the Washington Post and the NYT and other papers, including Foreign Affairs why I was opposed to the war, the same arguments of Robin Cook on his speech to the British Parliament on March 17, 2003, because as an international affairs analyser I knew that Saddam did not have any WMD and did not represent any threat to the USA or Europe, he was a tyrant yes indeed he was, but when he murdered Kurds and Shiias in Basra and other places in Iraq, nobody reacted, they abandoned them and the Western press did not publish too many comments about this massacres. John Kerry, Edward Kennedy and many well-known Democrats who are now supporting Obama did not say a word. Kerry and many others supported the invasion, in spite of the fact that they were aware about the smoke screen, which was made up by the current administration, I know that because I had written many times to Kerry and other democrats, just Kerry answered and he has was quite emphatic that he should support the Government's decision because was the duty of every American patriot. Do you forget that the Washington Post had supported the war? It is "très à la page" now to blame everything to this administration, which is partially true, but they had the support of many of those who are backing Obama now. At least Mrs. Clinton recognized that she made a mistake, I did not hear anything similar from other senators pro Obama now. Again I believe that is too dangerous to have such nominee, who nobody has the slightest idea about his political agenda. Shame on those who are trying to destroy Hillary, she is much more decent and honest that most of you, count the votes from Florida and Michigan and then we can speak or at least they have the right to choose between both candidates again, if the gerontocracy of the Democratic Party allows such possibility, I doubt it just because they are utterly blind and arrogant as Bush and his clique.

Wow! When did raising policy differences or questioning an opponent's electability become an attack or divisive? More so when the opponent has not spared any opportunity to do the same and more? Aren't elections and primaries about policy differences? Why is Hillary being villified, abused, called divisive and other vile names by the media and Obama's campaign, supporters and surrogates for highlighting policy differences between her and Obama, but Obama is praised for doing the same?

Oh, I get it. She's a woman - educated, strong-willed, independent and highly intelligent, and Obama is a MAN! In the tv pundits/talking heads world, it's red light when it comes racism (forget that Obama is 50% white and 50% Kenyan black!), but a GIANT GREEN LIGHT when it comes to sexism - Imus got fired, but Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, David Shuster and the sexist male and female cabal on WaPo and NYT still have their jobs, and spewing demaning sexist comments and columns by the dozen every day!

Btw, as much as the media, talking heads, Kerry and other Obama surrogates may loudly and rudely wish, until the remaining states have voted and the Michigan and Florida DNC-caused (read Howard Dean and Donna Brazille) primaries debacle's settled, Hillary has not lost nor has Obama won the nomination!

Both Obama and Hillary are still shy of the 2025 (without MI and FL) or 2209 (with MI and FL). So, why this sudden noisy rush to kick her out? Why are the guys asking her to quit when they didn't ask of the same of Howard Dean in 2004, Edward Kennedy in 1976 or Ronald Reagan in 1972? Hillary is the stronger, and more experienced and knowledgeable candidate of the two; but she's a woman, and the MEN want her to cede to a MAN who is only good at reading from a teleprompter, but is otherwise an empty suit, weak, inexperience, a shady background with shady acquaintances, and beholden to oil companies, health insurance companies and big coperations. A Democratic George Bush!

Unless Hillary and Bill are treated with respect and given the respect they deserve, including unreserved apologies from Obama for falsely accusing them of racism, I can't see Hillary's supporters voting for Obama in November, if he's the nominee.

The media, which hated her for her intelligence and grasp of policies, never given her a fair chance from day one in these primaries. They didn't expect/want her to come this far. That she's done it really pisses them off, thus the noisy chorus to get her to quit even though she still has a chance to clinch the nomination! As for Obama's supporters, the less said the better!!!

For the record, in case anyone is wondering, I am a male and black; but I hate the way Hillary has been treated in these primaries. I hope my daughter grows up with Hillary's intelligence, strenght, high self-esteem, pride, self-confidence and belief that being a woman does not make her less of a human being than a man!

I was an ardent Bill Clinton fan. I was in Hillary's corner until she began to be all things to al people.
As a past Catholic school student, I, like many thousands cringed and went into denial when allegations of sexual misconduct surfaced about "our priests."
How many of us took our children out of schools? How many people throw out the babies with the bath water? Hillary must have felt the same way when she found out that her husband was the worst type of dirty old man.

I admired her greatly when she chose to forgive her husband for desecrating the altar of the highest office.
When she could not remember the type or manufacturer of her favourite Bible as a professed Christian on the religious forum, I got suspicious. When she tried to marry pastor Wright's behaviour to Mr. Obama's character, I wondered how should we praise her for not walking out and denouncing her husband, but we should chastise Mr. Obama for distancing himself from the comments of his past pastor.

In one situation, you still live with the same "offender" and want to return him to the place where past offenses took place? In the other case, Mr. Obama moved away from Chicago many years hence. He lived in Illinois, Hawaii, Washington and is a born again Christian, who accepted her willingness to forgive. Someone somewhere is being very phony.

By the way, where is all the experience that she supposedly has? Now that I am checking, Mr. Obama is on the Foreign Relations Committee and she has only 3 years experience as a Senator.

Do you think the republicans won't ask about the accidental deaths that took place during the Whitewater fiasco?
The lack of class on one side and the display of class on the other have caused me to switch allegiance.

By the way, I do know for a fact that all people have the same D.N.A. All seed of Judah and Israel were promised 400 years subjugation periods as specific punishment for disobedience. The northern ones served their sentence in Europe, mainly, married other Europeans, mostly around Spain and Poland and became lighter in complexion.
The survivors of the carnage of 70 C.E migrated southward and married most people south of Ethiopia. They received their other gentile subjugation and ended up as dark as they were originally or darker. So, a person's outward appearance has nothing to do with what's inside.
Mr. Obama has earned the respect of millions of Americans: Reagan Republicans, and all others.

The fact that Hillary dived from 70 % national approval rating without one negative ad placed shows that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time. Somehow America has said:

WE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU AND A CERTAIN DIRTY OLD MAN TO MAKE ANOTHER 100 MILLION DOLLARS AT OUR EXPENSE.
Posted by: Basil Hill | May 9, 2008 3:55 PM

"We all agree that Hillary can continue running for as long as she wants -- as long as she agrees that neither she nor anyone else in her campaign uses the words race, white, or black under any circumstances."

How would this be possible? RACE is their expressed and continually stated reason for continuing...It's ALL anyone has heard out of her campaign for the past three days.

If one candidate is supported by her enormous personal wealth, while the other is supported by a sea of small donors, wouldn't that indicate in some way who has the broader support of people? How would the public not having problem with someone buying presidency with their enormous personal wealth?

"The Senate is a club, period. Maybe the most important club ever."

LMAO!!!

I work with Al Gore and the Clintons SET UP WESLEY CLARK's RUN in '04 so people would become familiar with him when she named him her VP choice.

Don't tell people how to evaluate Obama's experience versus her's. It's up to the individual to decide. You talk about bias and then try to RAM your opinions down other people's throats. Way to walk the talk...

How's this for a formula to bring peace to the Democratic Party?

1. We all agree that Hillary can continue running for as long as she wants -- as long as she agrees that neither she nor anyone else in her campaign uses the words race, white, or black under any circumstances.

2. All super delegates swear that they will announce the name of the candidate they will support by no later than June 4 and that they will not use the words race, white, or black in their endorsements.

3. Obama picks Wesley Clark as his running mate because his presence on the ticket would help ensure a win in November and because he's incredibly well qualified for the job. Democrats refrain from suggesting that Wesley Clark was chosen for any reason other than his resume.

4. Obama explains he did not select Clinton as his running mate because both he and Clinton agree that her talents would be better used as Secretary of Health and Human Services.

I have some comments concerning "Stumped" and some of the commentators responding to Stumped. To Stumped, I find your anti-Hillary non-stop attacks and bias disconcerting and rather annoying. It diminishes what you have to say. I am a staunch Hillary supporter and believe that Obama is at least at this point is a nothing and my fear is that he will cost the Democrats the election.

He simply has zero Federal government experience. He has no real knowledge about how our Federal Government works and his one year in the Senate did not and could not provide this experience. I say one year, because that is all the time he spent in the Senate before he started running for the Presidency. His time as a voter organizer and/or an Assemblymen in IL is less than zero experience or preparation for the Presidency. This is not to say that he is not brilliant and a quick learner, had he completed a term or two in the Senate and obtained some national and international experience, but he did not. I would also suggest that being a governor is also no experience for being the President, as we certainly have witnessed the past seven years.

The Senate is a club, period. Maybe the most important club ever. To get anything done, you have to be a working, accepted, member. I have read that it takes 3-4 years for an intelligent person to become a real member and to develop the understanding. relationships, influence, and tradables, to be able to accomplish anything of meaning and worth. Mr. Obama, who lacks any senate bonafides whatsoever, tries to advance the moronic myth that because he is an outsider he is therefore in a better position to make changes and accomplish something. This is absurd, which is probably why it has worked so well as a campaign tactic. It is my belief that the 1964 & 1965 civil rights NEVER would have been passed, if Kennedy instead of Johnson were the President. Johnson was the master of the Senate and, he had large majorities in Congress. Even that would not have been enough had he not been able to use his mastery of the Senate and friendships and influence to get some of the Republicans to vote in favor. I doubt that these acts would pass today.

I do agree that Wesley Clark would be the best choice for VP for either Hillary or Obama and I have been advocating this since each decided to run. I also must sadly agree that it is time for Hillary to quit, if not immediately, certainly after the next two primaries. The Democrats should eliminate all caucuses and only allow primaries. They are an asinine concept and clearly undemocratic. Our caucus was a zoo. In CO where I live, less than 7% of the registered voters will determined who the CO nominee will be. In FL I believe over 40% of the registered voters voted the FL primaries, and now Obama will not let them count, unless he gets 50% of the delegates. Which is truly the more democratic process?

The fact that Hillary barely won Indiana and that Obama won NC by what, 14%, is irrelevant. He could have won NC by 98% and Hillary could have won Indiana by 98% and it still would have been nothing more that a stupid waste of time and money for both of them, time and money that could have been directed at McSame instead. Indiana has only voted for a democrat President 3 times since 1900 and bush won NC in 2004 by 435,317 votes. Neither of these states will vote for Obama (or Hillary) in 2008. In fact, at least one-third of the states Obama won and in some cases killed Hillary, will NEVER vote for a Democrat in 2008. The pundits will declare Kentucky for McBush one minute after the polls close, along with Utah, Georgia and many other states that no Democrat stands a chance of winning. Much of this has to do with the idiotic concept of dividing delegates in the ratio of the votes received. The primaries should be a winner take all, just as the real election is.

The Important states including the two that have decided the last two Presidential elections FL & OH were clearly and substantially won by Hillary, as were PA and MI. Please do not waste time telling me that Obama was not on the ballot in MI. There is serious doubt as to whether Obama can or will win any of these states as well as some of the other large states that MUST be won for him to win in November. The only large state he has won was IL. The Obama worshipers will no doubt be quick to point out that he won NC, ( a big state), but as stated above, this is meaningless as he will not win NC in November. There are some indications that even NJ will be in play if he is the nominee.

To those who say that if Obama is the nominee, they will vote for McSame, I say that is stupid and idiotic. I will assume that race is the major issue for probably twice the number of those who will actually admit that race is an issue, which saddens me. But to any one even thinking like this, try to remember the election is about the issues, and unless the nominee is a complete and utter incompetent moron and fool, such as is the current president (neither Hillary nor Obama qualify), you cannot vote for McSame.

Try to list the top 5-10 issues that are important to you in order of importance and see which candidate and which party is on the same side of these issues as you are. Then, if you are a Hillary or Obama Democrat who is thinking I will not vote for the other, you will see that you must vote for either over McBush, unless you want 4-8 years of more of the same failed bush policies.

Some of those issues might be (in no particular order) : iraq, a national health care plan, the environment, stem cell research, assistance with the mortgage and housing crisis, more or less tax cuts for the wealthy at the expense of the rest of the population, jobs and job security, who will be appointed to the Supreme and Appellate Courts, trade issues, etc. You will then see that either Hillary or Obama and the Democratic Party are on the same side of these issues as you and McSame and the republicans are on the other side. Then hopefully you will vote for the Democratic nominee. Bornstein4

Just more of the same, dirty, below the belt Clinton/Arkansas politics. We deserve better.

As a psychotherapist, I have concluded that Ms. Clinton manifests severe personality disorder manifested by delusion of grandiosity with obsessive-compulsive features. Her delusion of inflated worth,power,knowledge,or illogical association of ideas,and difficulty to accept the reality that Mr. Obama, a black man, could become the president of the United States. Ms. Clinton needs psychiatric treatment.

"God forbid that Hillary Clinton should exercise her political right to run for President of the United States! It just makes all those men out there uncomfortable."

I am a woman who started out at Wellesley, transferred to Yale and also graduated from Yale Law (All HERSTORY's Haunts). I am disgusted and appalled by Hillary's narcissistic, sociopathic behavior that has now culminated in the new low of race baiting. In addition, she also has set feminism back at least 40 years--playing coy, cutesy and EVER THE VICTIM at the drop of a hat. Truly vile and disgusting. If this doesn't make you uncomfortable, than you have serious blinders on.

I thought this was a democracy and voters decided who runs for election and for how long? Who are all these folks blogging here? Obama supporters and other Ugly Americans? They need Hillary voters to succeed in November. They are making them angrier by the day and some of them will vote for McCain since between Obama and he, he is better qualfied for the job.

Okay Clinton supporters, it looks as though your candidate is staying in till the bitter end. That's her right and at this late stage her dropping out would be pretty menaingless anyway.

The problem was not that Hillary continued to fight on even though there was virtually no chance that she could win but that she was so negative. That she kept bringing up race. That she kept harping on Reverend Wright.

If she would have stuck to issues and why she felt she had better policies or whatever that would be fine but saying things like she and McCain are qualified to be president and Obama is not? Sorry but this is unacceptable.

A primary is supposed to be how the party chooses the best candidate. Sure ego is involved but the candidates first charge should be giving their party the best chance of winning the presidency. Hillary has failed at this.

These totals include FL and MI but DO NOT include the Caucuses.

"Sorry, count Florida and Michigan. THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS HAVE VOTED FOR HILLARY. No one asked that dim-whit to take his name of the Michigan ballot."

FROM REAL CLEAR POLITICS 5/9:

Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)
OBAMA
16,502,764 47.9%
CLINTON
16,416,059 47.6%

WHEN HILLARY SAYS HER SUPPORTERS ARE DUMB, SHE MEANS IT! AND LEARN HOW TO SPELL DIMWIT. DIMWIT...

Quote "OBAMA'S HARD DRUG HISTORY MAKES HIM UNELECTABLE"

Are you serious? Look at the current president!

Enough about Mr. Obama and the Rev. Wright. Mr. Obama may have been a member of the church, but how many times did he actually attend services in Chicago? Didn't he have to be in Springfield Illinois after he became a state official and then didn't he move to Washington DC when he was voted into the senate? Did he fly back and forth each Sunday just to attend that church? I doubt it.
The whole ploy to paint Mr. Obama as a willing participant is bogus.

After six years of an administration that has insisted that their view of reality was reality (despite much evidence to the contrary), I do not want another president prone to doing so. Whether we like the rules or not, the democratic nomination process says that the winner is the candidate with the most pledged delegates and superdelegates. Period. The reason MI and FL lost their delegates (and, I'm a Michigander, by the way) is because our state legislators pushed up the primary dates FULLY KNOWING that we would lose our delegates. That is why Obama, Edwards, Biden, Richardson took their names off the ballot. Period. To say now that there is any other definition of a "win" or that Obama is somehow responsible for MI/FL voters not being represented, is a tactic being used by the Clintons to generate a sense of vicimization in their supporters. That supporters/voters can become so overwrought with emotion to be manipulated by such a tactic is what lead to 70% of Americans believing the Bush administration that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks immediately after. Passion for a candidate or cause is one thing, but facts are facts. I fault the press for not pushing back on this deluded tactic by the Clintons precisely because they don't want to have the drama of the primary season end. Apparently, the reality-based challenges America faces aren't interesting enough to the press? Let's keep codependently allowing for this nonsense and further inflaming the negative emotions of HRC supporters. First, it was "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is," now it's "it depends on the definition of 'win.'"

Hillary, Hillary, she's our gal, if she can't win it noone shall.

Kick 'em the knees, kick 'em in the crotch, if she gets near enough to Senator Obama, she'll do it, you watch...

Who the heck are you to tell anyone to drop out of the race? Get over yourself.

First of all, I am astonished with the outrageous and unfair campaign against Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. She is struggling to keep her campaign going, which is bad for some demagogues and populists who want Barak Obama as candidate to confront Senator John Mc Cain. The fact of the matter, is that nobody knows who really is Mr. Obama, his track record, his real ideas? I don't have any clue about his background. His speeches are full of tailor made phrases, which he repeats constantly. I cannot believe that well educated college youngsters and professionals are so naïf to support the candidacy of a man who has many points in common with George Bush, the first one is a populist from the left, and he is dividing the American people according with their ethnic backgrounds, which is not the case of Mrs Clinton. Bush is a populist from the right, populism is a terrible decease in these days in many places in the world. But I cannot imagine a scenario where a populist maybe president of the USA. You can take if for granted if he is the nominee for the Democrats, John Mc Cain will prevail in November elections and will receive the support of lots of American middle class who are extremely afraid about a man who nobody can say, I know quite well him, do you know him deeply, and I doubt it. Speaking about the war in Iraq, he says now that he was always against the war, I was so against that I had written in the Washington Post and the NYT and other papers, including Foreign Affairs why I was opposed to the war, the same arguments of Robin Cook on his speech to the British Parliament on March 17, 2003, because as an international affairs analyser I knew that Saddam did not have any WMD and did not represent any threat to the USA or Europe, he was a tyrant yes indeed he was, but when he murdered Kurds and Shiias in Basra and other places in Iraq, nobody reacted, they abandoned them and the Western press did not publish too many comments about this massacres. John Kerry, Edward Kennedy and many well-known Democrats who are now supporting Obama did not say a word. Kerry and many others supported the invasion, in spite of the fact that they were aware about the smoke screen, which was made up by the current administration, I know that because I had written many times to Kerry and other democrats, just Kerry answered and he has was quite emphatic that he should support the Government's decision because was the duty of every American patriot. It is "très à la page" now to blame everything to this administration, which is partially true, but they had the support of many of those who are backing Obama now. At least Mrs. Clinton recognized that she made a mistake, I did not hear anything similar from other senators pro Obama now. Again I believe that is too dangerous to have such nominee, who nobody has the slightest idea about his political agenda. Shame on those who are trying to destroy Hillary, she is much more decent and honest that most of you, count the votes from Florida and Michigan and then we can speak or at least let them choose between both candidates again.

Billary remains in the race only to blackmail Obama into paying her campaign debts, including the nine mil he/she ponied up.

If we are going to discuss pathalogies here let's discuss the pathalogical need of the press to take down the Clintons. Let's discuss the pathlogy of grown men demonstrating a level of sexism that is breathtaking and considering themselves to be journalists. Let's discuss the pathology of a press that intentionaly misrepresents the motives of voters and divides us all into sub groups of black, whites, men, women, young,old, higher income, lower income, higher educational levels and lower income levels and then pits us against each other because we have different preferences and different needs in our leaders. Talk about sick.

Hillary isn't going to drop out, she's going to win.

Obama's scared to death of losing the next Primaries, which he will, by a landslide.

OBAMA'S HARD DRUG HISTORY MAKES HIM UNELECTABLE.

If Obama gets the nomination, look for the Washington Post to suddenly "discover" it.

Hillary's staying in this because she knows Obama can't win the general election. Since you're having fun being sarcastic about numbers today, might I suggest you take a quick look at 270towin.com, plug in the states where Hillary won primaries and then tell us how Obama will do this.

I live in one of three states (Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee) that have voted for every Presidential election winner since 1960. There is no way Obama will win here, unless every voter outside Memphis and Nashville somehow becomes incapacitated on the way to the polling stations. It's just impossible. Obama should be the one that you pundits should snarkily dimiss, not the other way around.

In no way am I a Clinton supporter, but why on earth should we care whether the media is tired of this race? If she wants to pursue it to the end (a la Mike Huckabee), why shouldn't she? Obama hasn't won anything yet.

The Dems deserve this mess and each other - live by identity politics, die by identity politics.

Ditto for Hillary. Youth, educated, and 5% of the blacks are voting for her too, not just Obama.

Obama has slung the muck equally. Well, maybe not him, but his hired hinchmen. Oh, did I say Men. Why can we discuss rascism but not sexism?

Re garding: To New Math: Well although the blacks do largely support him, they aren't the only ones, nor are the youth - that's an incredibly blanketed vision of reality. He gets the support of the educated as well (those who Have graduated from colleges -- of course whether any or every one of them cheated or skated their way through is something of vastly different discussion), along with anyone who is sick of the ugliness Clinton's campaign brought into this. The only reason Obama isn't already the nominee is because Clinton went out of her way to destroy his image to the working class, whom would hold onto Any words just to not vote for that 'uppity negro'. She's basically poisoned this race for the Democrats just because she would do anything to win. And frankly, although perhaps just as blanketed an opinion, I believe the only people that vote for her are the women that need to vote for a woman (the ones that are either too old to expect to see another woman candidate, or the ones who vote female just because every guy out there who says they won't), the non-educated and simple that were easily swayed to believe she actually gives a damn about them, some Hispanics who were swayed to believe the same, and the other people slow enough to believe that being First Lady for 8 years whilst doing particularly nothing (as shown by her schedules for the time period) will honestly make her a better president.

And every single last one of those groups are taking a hand in tearing down this country, brick for brick.

Except for the 90+% African-American support in recent primaries, there's been a substantial amount of support for the other candidate in each category. People simply don't like numbers, and the media makes summaries that mislead.

My wife is over 65 and loves Obama for President.

Primaries are absolutely no indication of general elections. Because Obama loses some group to Clinton (or vice versa), doesn't mean that he will lose the same group to McCain. After all, these are Democrats.

General elections have more people and have independents and Republicans voting. Third party candidates can affect the totals in weird ways. Although the war, the economy, health care, housing, and Social Security will still be important, other issues may also come up in the next five months.

Right now, despite the crazy polls, McCain is toast against either Democrat. Only a month or so will be necessary to make the case against McCain. He may win Wyoming. Most others states will be in play.

This fall, Obama could win 40 states (or more).

Sorry, count

Drop Out Already, Hillary

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