Dr.NO is nuttier than any Fruitcake could ever be!
The Civil War? Buying the Slaves?
Hey you Texas Turkey, if you knew a fraction as much as you think you do, you would know it was about unfair Tax revenue sharing the Southern States resented! They did not like having to subsidize the Yankees every winter!

Slavery was not the issue!

Squaawk, Squuawk! Nutcase! Nutcase!

Dr. NO's a Spoiler! Squawwwk! SPOILER! Nutcase Spoiler!

Squawk! NO-NO! No-No Dr. NO-NO! Squawk! Fruitcake! Christmas Fruitcake!

Huckabee is something else!

He is so right to talk about including more people in the Republican party!

He could actually win the presidency, whereas the other republicans are too tied into the corporate greed to have credibility and be attractive to voters.

Paul could be the Ralph Nadar of 2008. He'd surely hurt the GOP nominee far more than the Dem. Paul runs, the Dem wins. If Paul draws 5% of the GOP, it's a Dem landslide. And he surely draw at least 5% in Arizona and Florida. Paul could easily deliver Florida to the Dems.

Go, Pual, Go!

Ron Paul has woke me up. I am registered republican now. I have not participated for 10 years, now I am voting in the republican primaries for Ron Paul. Freedom is popular.

What an ignorant, hypocritical buffoon Ron Paul is. How can the same man who is against taxes for just about everything actually claim that the Civil War could have been avoided if the government BOUGHT all the slaves? Aside from the offensiveness of the idea of the government buying human beings (and what if slave owners wouldn't SELL? Doesn't this guy think ANYTHING through?)does anyone seriously believe that if Ron Paul were president during the Civil War, he would have allowed the government to spend tax dollars on freeing slaves?

Ron Paul's one-size-fits-all answer to everything is the free market...his answer to every social ill is to sue, sue, sue!

This guy is against universal health care, medicare, medicaid, clean air laws, etc. etc. He is totally against the government being involved in the health and welfare of its citizens. So like hell he would have lifted a finger to end slavery. What a lying little weasel. Only thing more ignorant than he is is anybody who buys this garbage.

Ron Paul clearly said he has No intention of running as an independent. The title of this article is a clear misrepresentation of what he said. Ron Paul said that 99.99% chance that he will NOT run as an independent. Why should he? He is the Republican fundraising frontrunner, in 2 days he raised 10 million dollars. He has won all the t.v. debates according to the polls. And has the strongest grassroots support.

I don't know about the rest of you,but I would rather have a President that makes wacky comments about events that happened 150 years ago than a President who believed that Saddam Hussien had mobile chemical weapons labratories driving around the streets of Baghdad or the back roads to Falluha.I'd rather have a President,who as a Congressman,voted against his own "earmarks" for whatever reason,than a President who believes that Osama bin Ladin is buying up the world's supply of suitecase nukes.You have to be a little nuts to run for President in the first place,but I would rather have a President a little crazy than one is down right certifiable,you know what I mean,the ones that believe that pre-emtive strikes are the best road to peace or that sing "bomb,bomb,bomb Iran" or spend their time consulting with God instead of with the People and so on.

Ron Paul is becoming stranger by the day. Now he appears to go back on his repeated pledges to honor the GOP primary process and hints at an independent run. But topping that is his foray into Civil War era fantasy. Why even "go there" when there is everything to be lost and nothing to be gained by opining on such a subject. Pure foolishness from the man with the loose tongue.

I've come to be a Paul supporter reluctantly but definitively. From that perspective, I agree that it's weird and pointless to get into the Civil War thing. It's not that he doesn't have a point that there may have been a better way to end slavery than a bloody war, but he didn't need to go into it like he did. (Note that Russert brought up the topic.)

I don't think Paul has ever pledged not to run as an independent. He has said he's not considering a run as an independent. I hope he does run as one if he doesn't win the nomination (which I don't think he will).

Finally, I can't help but note the shrillness of the anti-Paul ad hominems here. I will return the favor a bit and say that RAT-The isn't sounding too healthy himself. :)

What took Ron Paul so long to decide to run for Pres, which I am pretty certain is far fetched. We know very little about this man, except he sure can get BIB BIG money contributed IN A NEW YORK MINUTE !!!! MUST HAVE SOME VERY RICH PATIENTS!!!!! plus, another Cowboy from Texas.?? Not easy to digest.

It's amazing the dimwit posts criticizing his position on the Civil War. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that a 2008 Presidential campaign issue? I guess you are pleased that 600,000 folks died to get the slaves freed when nonviolent alternatives were possible. If stupidity were an Olympic sport, you'd be getting gold medals. I guess Hillary or Obama or the other Republicans favored seeing 600,000 Americans killed and that's OK with you.

Ron Paul has made some nutty comments, but like the earlier poster, I would rather have a Commander-in-Chief make a passing comment about the Civil War than sending our troops into an unnecessary war. We can learn from another American patriot, John Adams, who said "Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war".

Umm...where's the part about Paul "not ruling out an independent run"?

Dr.NO is nuttier than any Fruitcake could ever be!
The Civil War? Buying the Slaves?
Hey you Texas Turkey, if you knew a fraction as much as you think you do, you would know it was about unfair Tax revenue sharing the Southern States resented! They did not like having to subsidize the Yankees every winter!

Slavery was not the issue!

Squaawk, Squuawk! Nutcase! Nutcase!

Dr. NO's a Spoiler! Squawwwk! SPOILER! Nutcase Spoiler!

Squawk! NO-NO! No-No Dr. NO-NO! Squawk! Fruitcake! Christmas Fruitcake!
************************************************

Spoken like a true anti-American commie pinko.
Go waste your time on Hitlery and leave the voting to REAL Americans.

What took Ron Paul so long to decide to run for Pres, which I am pretty certain is far fetched. We know very little about this man, except he sure can get BIB BIG money contributed IN A NEW YORK MINUTE !!!! MUST HAVE SOME VERY RICH PATIENTS!!!!! plus, another Cowboy from Texas.?? Not easy to digest.
************************************************

Ron Paul is a 10 term Congressman. If you don't know anything about him it's because you're either too stupid or too lazy to look up his record.
And unlike Rudy & Hillary, all Ron Paul's money comes from everyday citizens. Not criminals like Hillary's donors, or war profiteers like Rudy's.
People as stupid as you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

The dolt who writes the front page headlines should be more careful. The headline said "Paul suggests independent run" but it was Russert who suggested it, and Paul didn't give him a flat no. Big difference.

Russert brought up the Civil War, not Ron Paul. Paul likes to explain how most wars didn't need to be fought, but the media and Hollywood tend to put a humanitarian spin on war history. They spin things like, 600,000 white guys killed each other to free slaves. Wars aren't fought for humanitarian reasons, it's money and power for the international banking cartels that fund both sides of the conflict. That's a fact!

Paul has said he will not run and he said it again in this interview, multiple times when asked. He asked Russert, 'do you ask the other candidates if they'll run third party?' So, I'm not sure why the title of this blog post is what it is....

Ron Paul has a chance to win the republican nominations by conservatives who truley want to shrink government.

Perhaps Ron Paul's solution to World War Two would have been to "purchase the Jews in the Camps" and free them.

I watched the interview Ron Paul and this entire article is misleading and at times incorrect. I am 57 and can't believe what has happened to our country. I made my first political donation on Dec 16 to Ron Paul. Went to a Christmas party today and 60% of the men are supporting Ron Paul. Does anybody like Bush's decision to invest 1 billion dollars in his FBI Computers programs containing the biometrics of all American citizens? Vote for freedom, vote for Ron Paul.

Its simple for me, and i say this having heavily researched all political events since Nathan Rothschild bought up the entire British economy through his lies about Napoleon beating Wellington at the battle of Waterloo to fool the British stockmarket into selling off everything so he could buy it up for pennies by lieing that Napoleon Won when his agents(implanted on both sides of the conflict) told him England would be victorious(yes this all goes back to Waterloo, research history its actually fun as hell to learn the TRUTH)... anyway as i said its simple for me I choose anyone who is NOT involved in the 200 plus year advance toward TOTAL WORLD TYRANNY by the US Military industrial complex. People must realize that the ONLY 2 things between True Peace and global enslavement are the US Constitution and The US Citizens! Ron Paul is the only candidate in this race who is not controlled by the New world Order devils. (actually Kucinich is not invloved in those ranks either)In my opinion there are 4 steps of life altering realisations to be made to get you to the TRUTH and they are all very hard pills for most people to swallow.
1)911 WAS an inside job carried out by the neo cons including GHWB w/Carlyle Group, Cheney w/Haliburton also The CFR(every CIA director since 1962 is a memeber), the Bilderbergers(of which Hillary is one), The CIA and the Mossad. I know i know its difficult but the evidence for this is MASSIVE and more importantly readily available(for now).
2)Our Govt infiltrated leaders are not Christians as they say but Homosexual Luciferians who worship a 40 ft tall Owl named Moloch at a place called Bohemian Grove in the woods north of Sacramanto every July. Look at a map of Washington or google earth to right over top of the Capitol Building which you will undeniably see forms a owl with the Capitol right in its belly (also notice the 5 pointed star and pyramid that has the Whitehouse as its tip, this CANNOT BE coincidence) Research Bohemian Grove and The Franklin Cover-up. Also GHWB is the largest cocaine kingpin in the history of the world.Research Mena, Arkansas and CIA Drug smuggling.
3) A Total commitment by these groups to destroy America is underway. Everywhere you look the Constitution is being RAPED and it IS by design. Destruction of your liberties are happening on a near daily basis.
4) And this is hard to realize but IS the TRUTH. The murder of 80% of the population is not only planned but in the works. Kissinger wrote this to the UN in the seventies and everything has moved in that direction ever since.
We can stop it but only if we know what were trying to stop. God bless you all.

I am truly frightened of the spin and ignorance of a few of these anti Paul posts. I suspect that we are seeing many paid republican bloggers joining the fray. Take this back to your neocon masters, unless you really do have all the Diebolds hacked, Dr. NO is our next President. All your spinning and lies with the help of Russert, Wolf, and Sean'O'RupertO'reillity won't change the fact that the American people are waking up to the growing threat of neofascism, which is the idea of the Government openly in bed with the "corporatocracy".

May God SAVE the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America

Bob:

"Perhaps Ron Paul's solution to World War Two would have been to 'purchase the Jews in the Camps' and free them."

Do you think FDR would have lifted a finger to save the Jewish people being murdered if his naval base hadn't been attacked? I doubt it -- he would later have no problem rounding up Americans of Japanese ancestry and putting them into camps.

I'm not an expert at history. But it's simply not radical or nutty to suggest that a bloody war may not have been the best way to go about it.

Paul is going to be the repub nominee since no other candidate in either party has so many dedicated small-time supporters who raise record amounts VOLUNTARILY. The MSM is scared. They know money talks.
Can you imagine the headlines if Rudy or McCain VOLUNTEERS had raised $10.3 million over 2 days?

I don't if Ron Paul run as a gay Muslim Martian I'm still voting for him.

I see a lot of people need to learn more about Ron Paul. It takes a higher level of education and critical thinking to understand this incredible man.
Go here:
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/

CCATMOON, If you cannot make a meaningful comment, will you just shut the hell up and get the hell out of here. You are the arrogant moron and buffoon, who doesnt know head from butt. If you dont know any of Ron Paul's positions, why the hell do you comment on it you bloody blithering idiot. He has never said he is against universal health care, medicare, medicaid, clean air laws. Bloody moron, you the lying piece filthy garbage and terrible pinko-liberal liar.

If you do not know something, dont talk and do some research you BLOODY ARROGANT PIECE OF SCUM, YOU FILTHY RASCAL.

I like Lew Rockwell's commentary:

"Russert avoided the Fed and the dollar and the economic crisis, as well as Iraq--subjects the elites don't [want] Ron raising. Still, Russert was not as vicious--despite all the misquotes and distortions and ancient non-history--and here's why. It turns out his son, like the children of many of the elite, and far more of the middle and working classes--is a Ron Paul Revolutionary. Tim, you'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone."

I personally believe that Ron Paul is the only chance Republicans have to win in 2008, because some people out there in our nation don't have maps , and uh I believe that our education like such as South Africa and the Iraq , everywhere like such as. And I believe that Ron Paul should help Asia ,the U.S. and South Africa and build up our future for our children --- such as the Iraq, our dollar, and the Supreme Court nominations.

Up here in NH he is blowing up! Just got in from Sign waving at the packed Mall!

There were thousands of beeps!

Ron Paul is gunna save us all!

For those who don't know, Ron Paul knows that slavery was not the main issue of the Civil War, however he said that slavery could have ended by buying the slaves. You say "you can't buy human beings!", but that's how every other nation did it, and no civil war was needed.

Hey Paulites, your candidate is just this year's Dean. Maybe Paul can take over the RNC once he gets pummeled....what do ya think?

Youtube Ron Paul.
See for yourself

Vote for freedom, vote for Ron Paul.

It's sad that Ron Paul can be so close to the truth on some issues and then completely nutters on others.

I hate to break it to you Ron Paul guys but he simply will never be elected president. He holds way too many politically crazy ideas and the opposing party would tear him to shreds.

I don't know if you realize this but he also ALREADY has the highest negative opinion numbers of ALL the candidates. That's a pretty big "achievement" for such a poorly-known candidate.

However I recognize the truth of SOME of his positions and opinions and wish you all luck publicizing those ones... if only you could keep him from sounding crazy, but you can't.

The idea of the government buying all the slaves is an interesting pipe dream. But since there's no indication that Southern slaveowners were ever interested in such a deal, and since it was Southern states who chose to secede and who fired the first shots of the Civil War, it's irrelevant.

another smear attempt by the msm the people see right through this, not working get a life !!
or a real job not filled with half truths and lies.

Learn your history, people. So the British Empire was 'nutty' for buying all the slaves freedom and avoiding costly and devastating conflicts within their Empire? It is an unfortunate indictment of our Public Education system in America that so many people are not only ignorant of history, but lack the critical thinking skills to go out and find for themselves the information that would prevent them from embarassing themselves with ignorant and incorrect statements.

It is also truly amazing how I hear the anti-Paul people responding to reasoned arguments and detailed plans for change with ad-hominem chattering and non-sequitor arguments that ignore the facts, history and in many cases basic logic! Some even accuse the Paul supporters of name-calling, while in the same breath ironically hurling ugly, ignorant invective!

Apparently, many people would rather have in the WHite House yet another serial prevaricator who lies to them in a seemingly rational manner, looks GREAT and sounds REASONABLE while spouting some of the most ridiculous and anti-American propaganda ever to be heard since the last reading of the Patriot Act in Congress!

Oops- that's not entirely accurate, since the Patriot Act was NEVER read before Congress, and was delivered to the members so soon before the vote that they didn't even have time to READ IT FOR THEMSELVES! Now THAT'S what I call FASCISM in ACTION!!!

Anyone who derides Dr. paul as a 'kook' or 'uninformed' is either grossly uninformed themselves, or so inebriated with neo-con propaganda that they would still be spouting the same invective after reading the over a dozen books written by Dr. Paul on economics, history and government, or the literally hundreds of essays on a variety of subjects.

I dare say Dr. Paul has written in his lifetime more than many of these 'learned critics' have actually read! The MTP interview was amazingly long on heat and shed little light on Dr. Paul's positions. I'm sure that was Mr. Russert's intent, as instead of talking about issues relevant to this election, he preferred to dredge up 20-year-old accusations from a fired campaign worker (Who thn joined Dr. Paul's oppoonent's campaign), as well as excerpted quotes from columnists wh themselves took quotes from Ron Paul out of context and drew ridiculous conclusions from their own interpretations.

Overall, if Dr. Paul can handle suchan ambush with the tact, clarity and aplomb he did, I'm sure he will make a fine President, as dealing with dictators, bureaucrats and slimy corporate types calls for the thick skin, big boots and large cajones which Ron Paul seems to posess in abundance.

xtrabiggg
+++++++++++++++++++++++

SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!!!!

He said exactly the OPPOSITE!

Ron Paul is the best man in the race of any side.
The WaPo is another skull and bones-er type rag.
Paul knows who really runs things and he will clean house.
The people want the house cleaned.
And they want to do it non-violently if possible.
WE NEED A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!

I find it ironic that the only true Goldwater conservative in this race (you know, small government, anti-torture, lower taxes, free market, anti-citizen-surveillance, yadda yadda yadda) has become such a pariah among establishment Republicans. O)ne of the reasons the GOP is in such disarray is that the leadership has strayed far off the Conservative reservation, embracing military adventurism, the religious right, massive spending (and by extension massive debt), and a secretive, authoritarian administration. Smart Republicans will vote for Ron Paul not because he'll win, but because the current course the GOP is charting is a disastrous and anti-American one.

P.S. It would be good to keep in mind, when reading the kooky posts from folks like David, above, that the KKK heartily endorsed Ronald Reagan in the 1980 elections. Did the fact that Reagan attracted the support of his generation's whackjobs mean he was unqualified for the job or a lunatic racist himself? No, of course not. Judge the candidates on their merits, not their least-rational supporters.

I dont understand why people think following the Constitution and ideas of personal freedoms are crazy. And just because mainstream media wants left vs right, 9ui11ani vs Hillary doesnt mean Ron Paul is unknown. He's won more straw polls, more debates, earned more money (and more money from people in the millitary)than any other republican. Its not just the internet, its not impossible, Ron Paul can WIN!!!!!! Google Ron Paul

It really is hard to believe that all of these people watched the same interview of Ron Paul by Russert. I thought Ron Paul did quite well and that Russert's questions while being a little tougher than normal were OK. I did wonder about Russert's avoidance of the economy and the Federal reserve. And if you are going to ask about Lincoln and the Civil War, it would be nice if time were given to relate it to 2008. The games with the time allowed were particularly irritating. Ron Paul really did not know how much time he would have to explain his answers. Originally it was an hour, then 16 minutes, and then it turned out to be twice as long. It gave the whole interview a rushed and high pressure feel. I suspect that was the intent by Russert. Not nice. Ron Paul did well in my opinion. We will know in the next 6 weeks just how well.

Ron Paul always answers 99.9% when asked what is the chance that he will not run as an independent. Funny but I would have thought the Zachary would know that. Heck 99.9% is about as sure as I am that the sun will rise in the morning. I am not sure what more you could ask from a politician. Who really knows what the future will bring? Finally it is VERY VERY hard to run a successful independent campaign in America. The system is very biased agains non-Democrats and non-Republicans. What purpose is served to keep bringing up this stupid question again and again? Are they trying to undermine his Republicanism? That is so silly since he is the only REALLY principled Republican running. Overall just a strange article title and a strange question from Russert, when he already knew the answer. Intersting times when 99.9% is not taken as a firm answer.

Ron Paul gets my vote no matter what party.
And if need be will write in or not vote. We cannot lose as the REVOLUTION goes on no matter what.
]
If you fruitcakes knew history, the only JUST war was our REVOLUTION. There are so many sheeples in this country that just want to sit on their donkey and collect OUR fruits of labor. That is STEALING! Wise up! If you give up FREEDOM you lose everything!
Ralph O'Brien

I think we need to be honest here for just a minute.

It's a sad fact that BOTH parties have been deep throating corporate america for such a long time, they can't remember how it feels NOT to have their collective mouths full.

deep down, I think Ron Paul is a little nutty. But I do agree with some of the criticisms he's leveled on the current state of affairs in America, and on american politicians specifically.

I'd love to see him run as a third party candidate, just to prove to Americans that a third party candidate has a realistic possibility of getting elected.

I'd vote for him for no other reason than that. It's time to break the strangle hold of the two entrenched parties.

What a dumb piece of you know what Paul is. Not only dumb though, but callous. The south would have never sold their slaves to the U.S. government as the southern economy and white southern self-esteem depended on slavery.

Paul's also a hypocrite. he's for ternm limits but he's been in office for what--18 years? The man's an isolationist and is the modern-day equivalent to the pre-WWII Charles Lindbergh.
When Russert asked Paul about his own constituents getting government aide but Paul's refusal to allow for Katrina victims getting aide, he said his constituents were just getting back what they've already paid the government. There's a streak of racism there because that remark supposes that the people of New Orleans, who are mostly black, don't pay taxes. (I'm surprised Russert didn't pick up on that.) It's not just New orleans Paul would turn his back on though. He wouldn't allow the government to give financial help to any U.S. city devastated by natural disaster--well, maybe the one he represents in Texas. As for health care--forget it. Ron Paul wouldn't give a starving man the crumbs from his sandwich.
Let him run though as an independent. He'll only help put the knife into the elephant and kill it off for a long time to come.

Most supporters of Ron Paul are relatively young. They don't know what it's like to be ruined by health care costs, to have a sudden illnesss occur with no health care. Empathy is not in Paul's vocabulary.

Someone posted soemthing saying "we need a revolution" and that Ron Paul is the man to carry the banner, however what kind of revolution is it when millions of Americans still remain without affordable healthcare or any healthcare, when we retreat behind a wall, put our heads in the sand and refuse to defend even our own interests? Paul is good when it comes to the war in Iraq, but he'd take the same stand even if we were really threatened by some outside force. Maybe he'd agree to buy our enemies off as he would the slaves prior to the Civil War.

I am sure glad our forefathers did not give up we may have had funny accents right now and James Bond may have been played by Jane Fonda. The MSM is going to try to make Ron Paul go away. Ron Paul is not an ego maniac like the others running for president. He will say its the message of freedom. If anyone thinks they are free in America right now You are kidding yourself. You Like comfort so go to StarBucks have a $5 latte (That is why its Star BUCKS)and discuss how Hillary is going to pay for your adadictome.

"Why even go there..."

Dr. Paul talked about the Civil War and slavery because he was asked about it. Of course it is a politically dangerous topic to talk about, but unlike other politicians Ron Paul does not pander or give calculated politically correct answers - he gives his honest opinion. While he is bound to give answers some people will disagree with, most find his honesty refreshing and respect him for it.

And so is the writer of this article.

The interview with Ron Paul is totally misrepresented in this article and Russert was pathetic. The headline should read -

Russert pulls out 20 year old quotes to try to smear Ron Paul

Our political system is sick and Dr. Paul is the cure.

Ron Paul for president
denis Kucnich for vice president
That would be a lovely change!

I love this ANTI-Dr. pauls... notice none are praising Obama or clinton on THAT story...

Dr. Paul was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT... you offer to "compensate" the slave owner outlaw the activity make harsh laws against it enforce the laws...and FREE THE HUMAN BEINGS!!!

NO WAR... NO LONG TERM RESENT OVER LOSS OF LIFE FROM SO MUCH KILLING AMONG BROTHERS..

SLAVERY WAS EVIL.. How we EVER did that was beyone me.. but many MANY other nations participated in it.. and the ALL ABSOLVED IT WITHOUT WAR WITHOUT KILLING AND BY FREEING PEOPLE WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN SLAVES

The man has Great Judgement.. and that is refreshing.. and he doesn't change doesn't lie and means what he says..

His PASSION for TRUTH HONESTY INTEGRITY and his GOOD JUDGEMENT... are what inspire his supporters.. and make it IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO "SETTLE" FOR ANYTHING LESS

GO NEOCONS!!! So many manipulated Americans, so many ignorant people, its unbelievable. Go watch your Fox News!!!
Let's destroy America by bombing everyone else. Come on guys, Ron Paul is talking peace, we can't let him get away with this!!!!

Ron Paul has my support

good! I would rule it out either. If there is ample chicanary and vote rigging, he will be able to mount an independant campaign unseen in American political history. Period. ObamaBillary/McGuiliHuckaRomney beware! Dr Ron Paul is here.

My comments addressed to Ron Paul:

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Just a few points which I will bring to your attention.

Your rallies and concerts should endeavour to include and attract large numbers of people; important for psychological reasons. A few thousand here and there is no good. I want shouting, yelling happy Americans coming to your rallies, of all back ground, and your target should be to attract upwards of 100,000 people organised into each rally. We want to create a populist bandwagon effect. It seems your real support is far greater than what the mainstream media led us to believe, and I want your rallies to reflect this FACT.

You are ultimately a politician who will attempt to do the right thing for America, and not a social worker or Jesus Christ. You will never be able to fulfill all your promises because of the reality of power. Protect your self by limiting your promises, and then delivering on the main issues. Security, state security is a sensitive area, and I would advise you to steer clear of that for now, and not offer detailed solutions beyond generalities at this early stage. The situation is evolving.

Are your mentors Ludwig Von Mises and Murray Rothbard? If they are then you have very little chances of success if you are elected. The problems that America face can not be solved by the metaphorical policy guidance of two Central European Jews. Jews are the primary problem that America now faces, and heaven forbid that you should fill your future cabinet with them, so that more of their 'bright ideas' can be experimented on the American nation. Ideology from Europe going back many years, Rothschild Europe, will not save America. You will need to be:

Highly flexible when you are in power in terms of policy.

Given the sheer magnitude of what the Israel first Presidents have created, Clinton and Bush you are going to have to be quite imaginative. Swimming in the same pool as your predecessors is not going to help your Presidency. We require a massive paradigm shift in policy, which both saves America, and to an extent satisfies the elite--- a delicate balance.

Senator Charles Hegel will add further balance to your team, as running mate. He is younger, ex-military, and more 'mainstream'

You will require considerable persuasive skills to pass a lot of your policies through Congress and the Senate.

Finally don't try to do too much, its not quantity but quality.

I believe you can save America from the abyss, and many many Americans are putting their precious hopes on you. One hopes their aspiration is realised.

Regards,

It is really disappointing to see the same topic seen over again by a "news" agency. This topic just dilutes the fact that Dr. Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination. I really hope the reporter who thinks this is "news" should have the guts to write similar articles about every other candidate because that would be fair, balanced news.

Maybe Dr. Ron Paul's presidency will bring a new age of integrity and authenticity to the media as well and sweep all the gutter reporters into the sewer of recycled garbage they've been spewing for years.

I am voting for Ron Paul because he swore to uphold the Constitution and he has done so unwaveringly. That sounds sane to me.

Dr Paul won't be running for a third party , that's for sure. Also I don't think the constitution or America acting like America are crazy concepts. Ron Paul is going to win, plain and simple.

On Russert;Ron Paul took Russert to school with ease. Plain and simple. Russert should have done his research on the functions of congress, also he made a really strange amateurish mistake of thinking the civil war was actually about slavery, which for the most part it wasn't.

Im a black immigrant by the way.

Learn your history, people. So the British Empire was 'nutty' for buying all the slaves freedom and avoiding costly and devastating conflicts within their Empire? It is an unfortunate indictment of our Public Education system in America that so many people are not only ignorant of history, but lack the critical thinking skills to go out and find for themselves the information that would prevent them from embarassing themselves with ignorant and incorrect statements.

It is also truly amazing how I hear the anti-Paul people responding to reasoned arguments and detailed plans for change with ad-hominem chattering and non-sequitor arguments that ignore the facts, history and in many cases basic logic! Some even accuse the Paul supporters of name-calling, while in the same breath ironically hurling ugly, ignorant invective!

Apparently, many people would rather have in the WHite House yet another serial prevaricator who lies to them in a seemingly rational manner, looks GREAT and sounds REASONABLE while spouting some of the most ridiculous and anti-American propaganda ever to be heard since the last reading of the Patriot Act in Congress!

Oops- that's not entirely accurate, since the Patriot Act was NEVER read before Congress, and was delivered to the members so soon before the vote that they didn't even have time to READ IT FOR THEMSELVES! Now THAT'S what I call FASCISM in ACTION!!!

Anyone who derides Dr. paul as a 'kook' or 'uninformed' is either grossly uninformed themselves, or so inebriated with neo-con propaganda that they would still be spouting the same invective after reading the over a dozen books written by Dr. Paul on economics, history and government, or the literally hundreds of essays on a variety of subjects.

I dare say Dr. Paul has written in his lifetime more than many of these 'learned critics' have actually read! The MTP interview was amazingly long on heat and shed little light on Dr. Paul's positions. I'm sure that was Mr. Russert's intent, as instead of talking about issues relevant to this election, he preferred to dredge up 20-year-old accusations from a fired campaign worker (Who thn joined Dr. Paul's oppoonent's campaign), as well as excerpted quotes from columnists wh themselves took quotes from Ron Paul out of context and drew ridiculous conclusions from their own interpretations.

Overall, if Dr. Paul can handle suchan ambush with the tact, clarity and aplomb he did, I'm sure he will make a fine President, as dealing with dictators, bureaucrats and slimy corporate types calls for the thick skin, big boots and large cajones which Ron Paul seems to posess in abundance.

xtrabiggg

****************************************

This deserved to be re-posted.

You may not agree with all of his views but Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate for president that is not in bed with the corporatists and is the ONLY candidate that will uphold his oath to defend the Constitution and our freedoms. The choice is obvious: Ron Paul 2008.

www.ronpaul2008.com
www.dailypaul.com

Hey, Dr Paul isn't perfect. But he shot down most of what Russert threw at him. He's also the only candidate with honesty and integrity. The others all have scandals and like to flip flop. Pastor Huckabee visited the megachurch of an anti-Catholic yesterday. To me it rather lacked class and suggests a pandering for the Evangelical vote. I hope that more Evangelicals see through the Huck's scandals and realize he's not the one. In contrast, Dr. Ron Paul is principled and honest. Evangelicals take note: Dr Paul is pro-life, has been married to his wife for 50 years, and his older brother is a Christian pastor.

To the person who calls himself 'rat-the'! Nice! Fits you. Anyway, Dr. Ron knows the history of the war. He knows that Lincoln did not free the slaves. He knows that Lincoln only 'freed' the slaves of those states that were fighting against the invasion from the north after two years of fighting. He knows that Lincoln promised the south that they could keep their slaves and he did let the states that did not leave the union keep theirs and that all the slaves were freed after the war was over and Lincoln was dead! He was just pointing out that every other country did not have a huge war to 'free slaves' and that war is not the answer to every problem. War was the real focus of the question, not slavery!

Well, I would stick my two cents in here regarding Ron Paul, who it is nice to see is leading the criticism here, but Tom Foss is saying it for me. What Tom said.

Many of the posters to this blog are obviously people with an agenda. I do not believe that they are self motivated. Liberty is winning this political season and this is their desperate attempt to stop it's progress. It is pointless to respond to the twisted and despicable "Rat" and others of his elk that choose to call the only Honorable man in Washington names and attack his authenticity. You can not reason with the unreasonable. They are the handmaidens of the elite who are scurrying to save their sinking ship of Tyranny. What else can you expect from a rat?

I'm glad Ron Paul freed the slaves. I know President Paul preaches non-violence...but I'm gonna help the Interwebs kill the Polls.

Ron Paul is more well read than Tim Russert on issues like economics and slavery. Russert's statement about slavery is simple absurd

First off I think this article was from start to finish meaningless. It neither summarized the interview or stated any discussion fully. It was incomplete and just totally distorted, especially the tittle.

Bravo to Timmy he once again got a hold of his dirt, which is what any one who pays attention to MTP should expect. But earmarks and philosophies on the Civil War? Come on... this was a very distorted attempt to muck up ol' pual but for the most part I think he didn't do too bad. The guy isn't rehearsed at all and you know what I don't mind it. He comes off with this transparent honest flare and I think most people can admire, or atleast thats the way I feel. When Tim put Romney on the spot last week and even busted out flip-flops at one point I guess as a visual intensifier, now I thought that was dirt. This interview was mainly just irrelevant banter.

1. "Earmarks" - Who cares... This isn't pork spending its money already allocated by the congress. If there is money budgeted then as a representative not only should you accept funds for your constituents but its your duty. The fact that Ron Paul votes against these earmarks is a testament to his conviction, the fact that he uses the earmarks is a testament to his intelligence and sensibility. He is a representative operating in a system he doesn't agree with but he still must play the game if he wants to fulfill his obligations. His analogy of accepting tax credit while not believing in the current tax system seemed very well put. I mean this man has voted against every governmental pay raise even donates a portion back to the treasury, has never accepted medicare, medicade, even federal loans for his kids based on principle. Its understandable people think he's a cook because its a miracle the man even exists in our political system.

2. Why were they arguing about the Civil War? - I am not going to get into a discussion on whether or not Slavery was the issue, or the economic pressure the North was putting on the South, again its irrelevant. Paul stated that his opposition to the Civil Rights Act was purely based on the fact that he thought it went against the individual's right of property and the 9th amendment. Not about race. Again the man just seems to be a fundamental constitutionalist. And yes the British empire did purchase their slaves and set them free and every other country other then the US phased out slavery without a civil war. (Again there was a large economic issue between the North and South... Even Abe Lincoln said if he could have kept the union together and not freed a single slave he would have. Thats a fact. But I really don't wish to elaborate its not a political issue.)

3. Israel and Iran - Does anyone remember the 7 day war? Do we forget what happens when we take our leash off of Israel? Yes, its a leash. The only reason Israel hasn't taken control of the gaza strip and pushed the Palestinians out of the country completely is our foreign involvement. If we did indeed leave the middle east and relinquish all aide I would put money on Iran being the last country we needed to worry about getting out of hand. Two words. Saudi Arabia.

4. Ron Paul fanatics and Haters.... There is always going to be ignorance and emotions when political discourse erupts, its like bring up the in-laws to the wife. Sometimes its just better not to bring things up. But I don't think supporting Ron Paul is any crazier then supporting Hillary Clinton or Mike Huckabee. They are all loons for being politicians in the first place, however as far as integrity and honesty I think my man Ron has it going for him and not even vegas is giving him bad odds these days. So if you're going to support him - say something original or insightful don't lower yourself to blindly rooting for a candidate without any evidence of rationality. For those who think he's insane or a big cook. Ron Paul is an extremely educated man, and very well read and has a better knowledge of economics then any other candidate.(I'm not saying Laize-Faire is the way to go) But at least he can understand the problems and hold those who function in these problematic areas accountable. Don't be so ignorant.

Ron Paul is much more knowledgeable of history than those who have commented negatively about his statement that an alternative to immediate emancipation was for slave owners to be compensated for freeing their slaves. In fact, the United States was almost the only country that freed slaves without compensating their owners. Regardless of our modern perspective on human rights, slavery was a long, well established institution in the 19th century. Except for a radical minority of abolitionists, it was generally accepted, in the North as well as in the South, that slaves were property. No society takes the immediate abolition of a category of property lightly. This is a dangerous precedent. In almost all cases in Western society, abolition of slavery was done through an agreed plan that extended over several years or decades; it was not considered socially responsible to immediately free a class of people who had no education, property, experience with managing their affairs, etc.; slaves had to be gradually integrated into free society to be, in fact, free. As evidence of this fact, Lincoln proposed compensated emancipation to the Border States in the early years of the Civil War as a means of preventing them from succoring the Confederacy and appeasing radical Republicans' calls for immediate emancipation. As an earlier commentator implied, the slave owners in these areas didn't accept the offer; however, when the Federal Government abolished slavery in the District of Columbia in 1862 by fiat, the owners were compensated $300 for each freed slave. There was a precent in the U.S.; Mr. Paul is not a nut case. While impossible to prove, his statement regarding compensated emancipation being a means to avoid civil war is plausible and not unfounded. Not only might it have prevented the war, it might have led to a much more effective integration of African Americans into general society than has resulted from the North's immediate and unplanned abolition that neither compensated owners nor supported freed slaves; the reparation movement is tacit evidence of the sorry legacy of this irresponsible act.

Huckabee has gone off the deep end - he is a Nut Wack job - his stances are bizzare. He is a bigger taxer than Clinton was - he allowed illegals to set up camp in his state of Arkansas - thats why his polling numbers are dropping like a rock.

Mitt Romney - whats this? Your father walked with Martin Luther King - Are YOU Insane or just a compulsive liar?

PRESIDENT PAUL

The moment he became President, Ron Paul would blast away at the chains that restrain freedom, peace and prosperity in this country and around the world.

President Paul would endeavor to scale back Government more than any other candidate and he has an ironclad record of doing exactly what he says. In 20 years in Congress he has amassed one of the most conservative and Constitutionally compliant voting records in American history. He has never voted to raise taxes. Never voted for an unbalanced budget. Never voted to trade liberty for security. Never voted for anything...ever; unless it was authorized by our Constitution. The lobbyist call him Dr. No because special interest groups can never get anything (our money) out of him. A man of principle and integrity. He's as incorruptible a politician as there ever was.

A Ron Paul Presidency would usher in a return to the Constitutional principles of limited government, just taxation, fiscal responsibility, sound money, strong national defense and individual rights.

Americans are hungry, thirsty; starving for change. We are tired of what we have been getting. Year after year, administration after administration, Republican or Democrat; nothing seems to be able to stop the unrelenting growth of government and it's corresponding sacrifice of freedom and prosperity. Congress has an approval rating in the teens. Ron Paul is a true Maverick. The establishment can't control him but We The People know exactly where he stands because of his adherence to the Constitution.

Liberty is not the natural order of things. It is extreme. It has existed in a relatively small place for a relatively short period of time. Ron Paul is extreme. He wants elected officials to honor their oath of office. He wants this country and posterity to enjoy the blessings of liberty by going back to the future. Back to our Constitution.

The 'coverage' of Paul's Russert interview is the most biased article I have ever read, and a fine example of poor journalism. It is why your industry is in decline.

Why does everyone keep asking Ron Paul about a third party run? He has a good chance at the nomination when you consider the dedication of his supporters and the sheer numbers of them based on typical voter turnout. You can nearly guarantee that EVERY RP supporter will show up on primary day inm their state. You can't say that for the other candidates...

I hope Ron will get many Votes at the expense of the Main Republicans. That is what we need.

to all the R(u)Paul nuts out there, i suggest your read the excellent summary of his career in the Almanac of American Politics. Paul has been a kook all his life--he entered politics because Nixon nixxed the 'gold standard'. his one-liner (sometimes paragraph) position statements are not supported by his votes or any other extant political philosophy(though i guess you could call a right-wing libertarian opportunist a 'philosophy!).

note: even Reps in congress don't count on Pauls vote. he is a Rep. merely because it's opportune. sound familiar?

Ted Lotring/ Rumford RI

Interesting astute comment by Paul, Paul has read his history well. Nearly every Nation in the world was able to eliminate slavery without a Civil War and loss of life. But, it's done and over with, why Russert would ask that when there are so many other REAL important questions we need answered is beyond me. I don't want a history lesson, I want to hear real questions about this countries future.

What about the Real issues we face today? How about interviewers sticking to those?

"With the rise of the powerful corporations, the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industry and huge amounts of spending by Washington, Paul said the United States is moving toward a kind of "soft fascism.""

Why did you omit his mention of corporate media interests that lobby with millions of dollars in Washington in his same sentence?

"Fair and Balanced" as usual.

Refering to the issue of his running as a third party he said that he was %99.9 sure he would not.

Russet is used to interviewing liers.

"READ MY LIPS".

If I said, "I'm never going to live in a mansion on Belvedere Island," and then I won a $100 million lottery and bought a mansion on Belvedere Island, I would have been lying.

Paul's point was that he doesn't like to make definite statements about anything. He knows darn well that short of a $500+ million budget, there is no way anyone could take on the Republican and Democrat parties.

Pose the same questions to any other politician and you'll get the same answer.

I am changing my registration from independent to Republican in order to vote for Ron Paul in the Pennsylvania primary. Ron Paul is the only one telling the truth. This blatantly incorrect and misleading headline reveals the true agenda of the "bought and paid for" mainstream media. Vote for the constitution, VOTE FOR RON PAUL.

It seems like anyone you run into that is not for Ron Paul has some kind of agenda, a personal reason for not voting for him. People need to get it in their heads that this Vote is for "the people", not a "Party", help not only your self, but your neighbors too.

Some "one on one", with Ron Paul....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7493899900883927358

How cool is it that the LSM is finally picking up on Ron Paul now that he has broken the record for most donations in one day. There is a rEVOLution brewing in this country and people are sick and tired of the fascist slash CFR chumps being inserted as our supposed "leaders". A true patriot, Ron Paul comes along and the only thing the LSM is concerned about is will he run as a third party or not if he doesn't get the nomination from the corrupt "duopolistic" party call the Repulicrats. Ron Paul did a masterful job with the obvious attack interview. You have to ask your self: Why was the CFR interviewer soooo concerned that Paul will run Third party?

America is being undermined on many fronts. The one most eminent is our Bankruptcy. Fueled by War, Empire Maintenance, and Fallacious Spending of congress; The economic Overtaking of America will not be far off. The effects are just now becoming evident. We will be sold to our enemies rather than forced into submission.

Ron Paul is the only candidate running for president that has the vision of the founding fathers of this country ingrained in his heart. Core Character Counts. He is the only one in the field that I would trust my money and my family's safety with.

The honesty and integrity displayed by Ron Paul coupled with the message he espouses is the glue that binds the support together. The word could not do it alone and this is precisely why the media and the others are baffled. The Ron Paul Supporters Value Substance Over Symbolism. We fully believe that Ron Paul will follow his words as his record shows. He is not as the others with Pandering Platitudes.

The commonality with all Americans is the Constitution. This is why his support group can not be pigeon holed in to a specific category. We Are Diverse And Many. There is no singular stereotype that even comes close to the specification of the group.

To help with your education here are some sites I recommend:

A Particularly good read:
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr012903.htm

www.ronpaul2008.com/about/

www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

www.ronpaullibrary.org

www.house.gov/paul/

www.lewrockwell.com/paul/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

Think For Yourself; Do Not Be Easily Led.

Views Untested Are Worthless.

It seems that every kook in the country is supporting Ron Paul. Some of the comments on this thread are outright bonkers! Makes one wonder just how these people survive on a day to day basis.
Ron Paul has NO chance of winning the Republican Nomination , and if he runs as an independent I bet he draws off more Democrat votes than Republican. Most of his current supporters say they have CHANGED their registration to Republican in order to vote for him in the primary.
THE DUDE IS NUTTIER THAN A FRUITCAKE!!

OK, the Civil War is about tax revenue sharing. That makes it even MORE of a stupid war. Are you telling me 600K people died because of a tax dispute, and there was no other way to settle it?

"In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty." - Dr. Paul

If that's NUT I am for you Dr. Paul

Obviously, there are a few posting here that are totally oblivious of the history of the War Between the States and therefore, because of their overt ignorance they call Dr. Paul a fruitcake...how funny!

If you are going to make blatantly dumb statements like that at least have some sort of rebuttal to prove the case you are trying to make.

Ron Dean,I mean Howard Paul is so much yesterday's news. When the dust clears he will be no more that the latest marionette for wealthy european interests for whom an independent autonomous America affects their delicate sensibilities. His robot supporters crack me up :" I....am.....now....Re....pub....li.....can."
Huckabee is the real deal. That's why the country club set is so upset. Vote Huckabee and upset the political bosses!

For those who are not considering Ron Paul...take a look at this except from the London Telegraph today:

"The central banks are rapidly losing control. By not cutting interest rates nearly far enough or fast enough, they are allowing the money markets to dictate policy. We are long past worrying about moral hazard," he says.

"They still have another couple of months before this starts imploding. Things are very unstable and can move incredibly fast. I don't think the central banks are going to make a major policy error, but if they do, this could make 1929 look like a walk in the park," he adds.

The Bank of England knows the risk. Markets director Paul Tucker says the crisis has moved beyond the collapse of mortgage securities, and is now eating into the bedrock of banking capital. "We must try to avoid the vicious circle in which tighter liquidity conditions, lower asset values, impaired capital resources, reduced credit supply, and slower aggregate demand feed back on each other," he says."

People, this country is facing something that none of us want to face. Do you trust all those other candidates who offer the same ole so-called solutions to many of the problems that they themselves caused?

RON PAUL GETS IT, HE UNDERSTANDS THE MISMECHANICS OF THIS MONETARY SYSTEM AND WHAT WE WILL FACE IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF THIS COUNTRY IS NOT RETURNED TO A SOUND MONETARY POLICY!!!

IF RON PAUL IS NOT ELECTED IN 2008 THEN BY 2012 WE WILL ALL WISH HE HAD BEEN!!!

Maybe what we need to do to curb illegal immigration is to have illegals placed into camps similiar to what we did to the Japanese-Americans during World War II. The only difference is that proof of valid U.S. citizenship is the ticket out of the camps otherwise, the only ticket out is out-of-the-country permanently. America is for Americans!!

If Ron Paul does not win the nomination of his party, would you be disappointed if he does not run as an Independent?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1364

.

CCATMOON.....

Although I was trying to avoid the subject this post compelled me to throw into this argument based on factual evidence instead of some tripe as this poster commented.

First, the practice of purchasing freedom for slaves by governments or organizations was widespread during the 1800s. You imply that it would be offensive to buy human beings, when in fact it was a practice to buy the freedom...I would, by your comment, assume you would not favor purchasing the freedom of slaves but would easily send 600,000 to their deaths. You are mistaken in your assumption on the entire process and proposition that was debated in this country at the time. I dare say that Ron Paul would have much rather seen the purchase of freedom then the massive death of Americans on both sides of the conflict, it would be the principled thing to do and could have easily been achieved by either a piece of legislation or an amendment. Thomas Jefferson, perhaps the one Founding Father that closely represents Dr. Paul's views, proposed something called the Louisiana Purchase...ever heard of it? I dare say that the same procedure could have been used to purchase the freedom of the slave population in the South.

It is apparent that you are neither well-read in history or in the positions Dr. Paul takes. If you wish to learn a little bit about Dr. Paul's actual positions then why not go to the Ron Paul Library. I mean if you are going to make comments on such issues the least you can do is actually find out what you are talking about. ...and, to call someone a Buffoon while exhibiting such Buffoonery yourself is, by any account, well. Buffoonery!

The civil war was NOT fought over the issue of slavery. The war would have been fought even if the people in the "free states" had bought up every slave and freed them. The issue was trade , taxes , and tariff's not slavery. Lincoln freed the slaves as a war tactic long after the war was started. Most of today's blacks won't bother to find out the truth by studying history. That is being too much like "whitey". It's too easy to follow the lead of the rhyming reverends and blame everything on whitey.
I have listened to Ron Paul and I still think the guy is a couple of bricks short of a load!

Why is there an advertisement for a F22 Raptor on this page? I can't afford to buy a slave, much less a jet.

What a dirty trick to run that headline. This is clearly aimed at Republican base voters who wonder if Ron Paul is a loyal Republican.

Apparently, 99.9% is not enough anymore. Why not headline something substantive he discussed with Russert?

The DC-Manhattan power axis never fails to amaze me.

I WOULD RATHER SEE RON PAUL AS PRESIDENT,AS ANY OF THE OTHERS. IF RON PAUL & JOHN EDWARDS WOULD RUN AS INDEPENDENTS,WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.AND IF IT WERE A POPULAR VOTE,IT WOULD REALLY SHAKE UP A LOT OF PEOPLE. MAYBE IT WOULD CHANGE THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE NOW! AND WE NEED THAT.

As an independent candidate I am the only candidate for President with an actual plan for ending the Iraq war. If elected I will go to Guantanamo, load the "prisoners of war" onto airplanes, explain to them that they are a greater danger to America as foreign nationals being tortured by mentally ill Americans than they would be as enemy combatants, and take them back where they came from. Then I would go to Iraq, order all Americans to stand down from all offensive military operations, and work out the timely withdrawal of American military members from Iraq with the Iraqi government. If members of Congress should disagree with these actions, it must be remembered that Congress has sole power to declare war, and the last time they did so was in 1941. If impeached by Congress, I would attend my impeachment trial.
I have not copyrighted this plan for ending the war, so anyone else is free to use it, including the incumbent President.
As a matter of interest, here are the statistics for independent voter registration in Arizona since 2000.

2000-2002 107,715
2002-2004 165,771
2004-2006 26,483

This huge decrease in the rate of independent voter registration was accomplished by making a new voter registration form on which the option to register independent was removed, leaving only a space designated Specify Party Preference. Since the news media will not publish these statistics obtained from the Arizona Secretary of State for independent voter registration, we independent voters do it ourselves from time to time.

Those of you who support Dr. Paul better get used to this. The neo-cons are scared. He said for the 100th time he has no intention of running as an independent. He put the odds against at 999 to 1. Ron Paul has more money and (I think) more support than some of the anointed ones. Why even ask the question? Yet the headline reads, he will not rule it out. Tim Russert brought up the civil war, not Dr. Paul. My guess is that Russert has never read anything by Tom DiLorenzo on the subject. He just wanted to stir up a controversy. There will be more. Much more.

Interesting reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_on_slavery

More interesting reading. This is an address given by Honest Abe himself.

http://www.bartleby.com/251/41.html

Not everything you learned in school is true.

The Post mentioned nothing of real importance, or relevance regarding Ron Pauls run for the presidency. For instance, this one major fact, that Ron Paul has amassed $18.5 Million Dollars in campaign funds, with the majority being donated by the average citizen, of whom most of which, are planning to donate yet more! Don't count Dr. Ron Paul out!

I agree poster eh, Our biased, special interest Media, are not going to run any articles, that are even close to accurate truths, regarding, Republican, Ron Paul. Straw polls do not lie! Americans are becoming familar with Ron Pauls political views. Ron Pauls political views are normal to most Americans, but, his views remain far removed from the few rich, who are bent on running this country into the ground, for their own personal gains. Smaller media markets, have Ron Paul leading easily, in most states. I believe the smaller Media polls.

There is no reason for him to run as an independent since he is favored to win the nomination. Just look at this poll with over 87,000 people voting! http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/21/straw-poll-dec-21-jan-4
Easily see how far ahead Paul is in which states here http://www.drosterman.com/ronpaul

I just love how the Ron Paul HATERS JUMP ON EACH AND EVERY TALK board right after an important interview or an event. Ron Paul fielded alot of STUPID QUESTIONS because he had to respond with answers as demanded by the interview...
Who gives a flying flip what the hell happened 150 years ago....
Sheeshh... or the earmarks thing where the government takes your money and Ron Paul wants to get some back for his consituents... its party of his Job and he's damned good at it too!
He's political and morally correct on so many issues... Tim Russert did everything he could READING FROM HIS PRE-PLANNED AGENDA QUESTIONS that he even stuttered over reading the questions and blinked like a deer in headlights when Ron Paul parried them so easily...
Tim Russert was so startled by some of Ron Paul's responses he just had to PUSH AS HARD AS HE COULD to get away from the topic when Ron Paul started talking sense!

And to bring up that piece of Sh*t Eric Dondaro who was a fired disgruntled ex-employee and all those other *un-supported statements* - who the hell ever said Ron Paul made those statements - where are the facts... pure smear campaign and Ron Paul fielded them as a professional...
GO RON PAUL
Ron Paul Jan 8th Sign Bomb Day... www.signbomb08.com

By the way - who doesnt want him to run as a third party candidate if the GOP neo-cons dont give Ron Paul his due and nominate him for their presidental candidate...
I will vote for Ron Paul even as a third party candidate...
Keep in mind that Dr. Paul TRANSCENDS PARTY LINES... the demos and repubs have so blended together that neither stands for limited government anymore... all their politicians are looking out for THEMSELVES AND THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT financially back them...
Ron Paul does neither... he is for EVERYONE regardless of party affiliation.

So stop thinking of him as a republican or democrate or libetarian...

Paul is right that slavery would have died out anyways. It was an idea who's time had come.

It is too bad his critics tend to focus on the irelavant issues(like the Civil War comment, or a $500 campaign contribution) instead of the real issues like our bankrupt country, falling dollar, deficit spending, and our $500,000,000,000 military fiasco.

The comments on this post are pretty hilarious. I wonder how many of them were hired specifically by the CIA or RNC to discredit Ron Paul. Tim Russert certainly was. It may not say so on his check, but somewhere in the back room is a guy with a cigar.

Ron Paul didn't even bring up the Civil War in that interview, Russert did, and it was a clear attempt to make Paul sound ridiculous, just like most of the other interviews given to Ron Paul these days. The same Civil War angle was attempted by Bill Maher a long while back and it backfired in his face. The Maher crowd applauded Ron Paul.

In reality, Ron Paul is exactly right. Lincoln wasn't the great emancipator we've all been taught he was. He did more to strengthen the federal government and erode states rights than perhaps any other president. Have any of you READ the 14th Amendment? Do you even realize that because of it, you are no longer considered a citizen of your state but of the United States, and do you know the implications of that? The Civil War was a needless war. The more I study it, the more I realize that the stuff we were taught in school as the accepted narrative of our history is just pure baloney.

Mike Huckabee is a liar and a fake. If you people can't see that now, just wait till the man is in office. Wake up, people. You've got a golden opportunity to turn your country in the right direction. The time is now. Google Ron Paul. Research his positions and the REASONS behind them. Listen to him speak. Then decide if he's "nuts" and if 2+2 really equals 4.

Good theater here, some tragic, some hilarious and some just plane dumb. Bottom line? Ron Paul needs us as bad as we need him. Sound familiar? It was once "defend the constitution and it will defend you". Ron Paul has put his life on the line. If we believe he's the real deal, and he is...let's do our part and register republican and vote this old coot into office before it's too late. Tom Jefferson

At this point I don't care if Ron Paul says the moon is made of green cheese...He stands for the Constitution. No one else does...A leader who stands for the constitution knows the people rule. not the government...

Go Ron!

That IDIOTIC speech about slaves and the Civil Rights Act sure shows why some racist's groups are donating to Ron Paul's campaign.

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/12/ron-paul-on-meet-press-all-you-ever.html#links

Starting to realize there are more morons out there then I initially thought.

Ron Paul is the best person for the job. If he gets elected president we will find this out. If he doesn't get elected we will find out that way too.

Morons...squawk ...squawk ....MORONS

Ron Paul is not a racist nor does he endorse racism EVER.

If ONE racist gives him a $500 donation, THAT IS HIS OWN DUMBASS FAULT.

Adam Smith in his Wealth of Nations makes the argument that slave labor because of its inefficiency is expensive when compared with freely hired labor, and thus came out of use in most of the world for economic reasons. I think that what all Ron Paul was referring to, that it didn't take a war to end slavery in the rest of the world, and in any case slavery had little to do with the civil war.

Smith's argument goes something like this (it has been a while since I read it): Every bit of work gotten out of a slave must be forced by another man, but hired labor is goes on without force. Thus both the upkeep of the slave master (the forcer) and the slave must both be paid in the case of slave labor. Also, the slave master is charged with the upkeep of the slave, but because his self-interest is not directly aligned with that of the slave's, he does this very inefficiently. This final point is the argument that is the center of most of the book, that things are done most efficiently by one who is out of self-interest deeply concerned with its outcome. Thus the upkeep of a slave is always done with less efficiency than the upkeep of a free worker who is given the task of his own upkeep from the wages he earns.

I hope that everyone understands the complexity that our nation is in at these precious times. If Hillary gets in you can say goodbye to the rest of the Constitutuion. I encourage everybody to look into the Veteran's Act, which was passed by the house and senate on december 21, 2007. It states that any veteran with a history of PTSD is now on the federal gun ban list. This is a kick in the head to our military and should scare the daylights out of every person who enjoys freedom. It was an anonymous vote and was unregistered. Gee, I wonder why?! ANYWAYS, I pray that Ron Paul is president because anybody else elected, sadly, we will see the police state come full speed ahead, worse than it is now.

Ron Paul wins every internet poll. One hundred million voters are connected to the Internet. I say media polls are false advertising biased by their owners and operators.

Look, I am a reformed Evangelical, went back to Catholicism. The thing about many Evangelicals is that they have the mentality of 'The sheep hear the shepherd. They listen for his voice. They follow him wherever he goes.' To these Evangelicals, Pastor Huckabee has become that shepherd on a national scale as the one who represents Jesus the Good Shepherd. Pastor Huckabee is full of scandals, but they ignore it because he's the shepherd and the sheep follow the shepherd wherever he goes. The consequences of the philosophy are often not good. On an extreme scale this was the Rev. Jim Jones in Guyana. On a lesser scale happening every day it is people giving away their life's savings to their pastors or the teleministers. If these Evangelical pastors were poor themselves and the money really went to the poor it would be one thing. If they gave all the money for example, to the suffering Christians and Jews in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East, I would call them saints. But these pastors, especially the heads of the megachurches and the televangicals, are all multimillionaires! Jesus' words come to mind: 'They devour widows houses, and for a show make lengthy prayers.' Furthermore, Pastor Huckabee is also a politician who wants to be president. An even bigger no no. This does not reflect well on Evangelicals to my mind. I am voting for Ron Paul for president. He is not a huckster. He is a man of integrity and truth. Evangelicals take note: Dr Paul is pro-life, has been married to his wife for 50 years, and his older brother is a Lutheran minister.

Great to see some anti-Paul comments because at first I thought 'how can he get
so much positive vibes on these blogs?!'
It is apparent that Dr. Paul is for real and the negative trash is biased, absurd,
or mindless dribble. Thank God for at least one elected congressman who takes his
oath of office seriously. Our country will
be much better off if the rest of the 'gang
of 535' honor their oaths to 'preserve and
protect the constitution of these United
States of America from all enemies BOTH
foreign and domestic.' Three cheers for the honest doctor! I'm thrilled that he is
the rage at all colleges and universities!

Ron Paul is not remotely electable to the Presidency. He will probably be unseated as a result of his national exposure, rather like what happens when you see all the wriggly things under the rock you just turned over.
He will stand by his national follwers, though. Casting off the degenerate legacy of the American Republic, he and his Arian Brothers, White Supremacist supporters, and a rag-tag band of conspiracy nuts will go forward to seek victory in the polls as an independant. Ron Paul, Herr Doktor, will once again resurrect the NSDAP! Seig Heil!
Good luck with that, Doc.

Russert brought up the Civil War, not Ron Paul. Paul likes to explain how most wars didn't need to be fought, but the media and Hollywood tend to put a humanitarian spin on war history. They spin things like, 600,000 white guys killed each other to free slaves. Wars aren't fought for humanitarian reasons, it's money and power for the international banking cartels that fund both sides of the conflict. That's a fact!

Why should Paul even consider running as a 3rd party candidate when he leads in fund raising and has the most donations coming in from the military?

He's the most LIKELY Republican to win the nomination, like it, or not.

"Oh, come on," Paul replied. "Slavery was phased out in every other country in the world."

Excuse me? I can't vote for a man who would still make this ignorant remark. There is still plenty of evidence that slavery is continuing in other countries today. Sudan, for example.

Interesting, is our American history a reflection of current world events? The Middle East is having a civil war: Who are they slaves?

I sincerely hope that Ron Paul will not run as an Independent in the general election, which would make him the person most responsible for the then-sure election of Hillary, just as Ross Perot was the man who caused Bill Clinton to win in '92, with just 43% of the vote.

Giuliani, strong against illegal immigration, and a strong advocate of school choice, would stomp Hillary in the general election, without Paul running as an Independent, but it would be a repeat of '92 if he does, so surely Paul will not, as to insure that we will not have "First Gentleman" Bill Clinton wandering around the White House.

The people who run around and dis Dr. Ron Paul are the same people that will be crying win the "debt note" Unconstitutional Fiat dollar, is not worth the paper it is printed on. When the market crashes and everyones savings goes to zero!

The American era of Fiat currency, debt, bankers, Paris Hilton.

If he is so nutty how about going to the bank and telling the tellor to give you are roll of US Treasury Silver American Eagles. That have a face value of 1 US dollar. Why do they cost 16 dollars. Does that mean a Federal Debt Note is 1/16th of a US constitutional dollar!

I forgot oil is $96 dollars and gold is $825 because of global warming, not the FED running the printing press!

Or inflation is from high prices not an increase in the money supply.

For those who believe in our government and they did not see the housing crash coming:

As a result of the financial failures of the Great Depression, Congress in 1933 passed the Glass-Steagall Act prohibiting national and state banks from affiliating with securities companies. In 1956, Congress passed the Bank Holding Company Act that prohibited a bank from controlling a non-bank company. In 1982 Congress amended the Bank Holding Act to further forbid banks from conducting general insurance underwriting or agency activities. This changed, however, in 1999, when the GLBA repealed sections of these acts and allowed banks to engage in a wide range of financial services.

Depression of 1929. It was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the cause of our next Great Depression. This act enabled mortgage banks for the first time since the Great Depression to get back in bed with the securities industry. Banks could now just originate home loans - regardless of their soundness- and pass off the risk to people who bundled the mortgage into a securities to sell to pension funds and foreign investors. Hence easy mortgage credit to all, and the cause of the current housing price bubble. Today we are on the threshold of the consequence of eliminating 1930's failsafe controls. Hearing Prelude. Today, we will be considering the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, one of the most significant laws to come out of this Committee in many years. The Act made profound changes to the laws governing the affiliation of banking, securities, and insurance firms in an attempt to promote the modernization of the financial services sector." Welcome to the next Great Depression.

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest.

On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No.11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve.

Executive Order No.11110
AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY.

MR. Kennedy's order gave the treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the treasury."

This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation.

In all, kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his was to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business.

If enough of these silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for the Federal Reserve Notes.

Tis is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are backed by anything but debt and the citizens ability on pay income taxes for interest payments.

Executive Order No.11110 gave the U.S the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

President Kennedy was assassinated just five months later.

No more silver certificates were issued.

Executive Order No.11110 was never repealed by any U.S. President and is still valid.

No President since has utilized it.

In November of 1910, after having consulted with Rothschild banks in England, France, and Germany. Senator Nelson Aldrich boarded a private train in Hoboken, New Jersey. His destination was Jekyll Island, Georgia, and a private hunting club owned by J.P Morgan.

Aboard the train were six other men: Benjamin Strong, President of Morgan's BAnkers Trust Company; Charles Norton, President of Morgan's First National Bank of New York; Henry Davidson, senoir partner of J.P Morgan; Frank Vanderlip, President of Kuhn Loeb's National City Bank of New York, A. Platt Andrew, Assistant Secretary of Treasury; and Paul Warburg

The devious planners of the revised bill titled it "Federal Reserve Act" to mask its real nature. It would create a system crontrolled by private individuals who would control the nation's issue of money. Furthermore, the Federal Reserve Board, composed of twelve districts and one director (The Federal Reserve Chairman) would control the nation's financial resources by controlling the money supply and available credit, all by mortgaging the government through borrowing.

Frank Vanderlip

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States. In the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

President Woodrow Wilson, September 4, 1912

In 1862 and 1863, Lincoln printed $450 Million dollars in interest-free "Green-backs". He stated "The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers.

--The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but it is the governments greatest creative opportunity. --

By the adoption of these principles...the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity."

The international Bankers response...

An editorial in the London times revealed the bankers attitude at the time...

"If this mischievous financial policy, which has it's origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish it's own money without cost.

It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on it's commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world.

The brains, and wealth of all countries will goto North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe".

shortly before he was assassinated, President Lincoln made the following statement: "The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspiracies against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy."

After Lincoln's death, Otto Von Bismarck made the following statement:

"The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots.

I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and torturous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches, and use it systematically to corrupt modern civilization.
They will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendon into Wars and chaos in order that the Earth should become their inheritance.

Otto Von Bismach

Mrs. Clinton To Run For White House
Hillary Biographer, the late Barbara Olson, says Mrs. Clinton's roots are Marxist

Barbara Olson, author of Hell to Pay. The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton (Regnery Publishing, Inc. 1999), is a prominent Washington attorney who served as a congressional investigator and as a general counsel in the United States Senate. She was interviewed by Cliff Kincaid, president of America's Survival, on December 8, 2000. What follows is an edited transcript of that interview.

Q: Do you believe that Hillary Rodham Clinton is a Marxist?
A: I believe she has a political ideology that has its roots in Marxism. In her formative years, Marxism was a very important part of her ideology...But when you look at her ideas on health and education, you see more government and less individual control. You see very little regard for families...

Q: Do you see Hillary as in favor of Socialist-style thinking at the global level?
A: We saw that with her activities as First Lady. She traveled more than any other First Lady. She had a global view. She spoke at the Beijing conference on women. She was very active in organizations and conferences that seem to be concerned about human rights but which are also directed toward a centralized governmental view. That is, one world. I looked at her travels and saw what she was doing. I always assumed Hillary was going to run for president. And I assumed that these international travels and her work with the Beijing women's conference and the U.N. were going to be her way into the White House; that she was going to have a foreign policy platform that not many women have...

Q: So you do believe that she will run for president?
A: I do. She believes her ideology to the core. She's worked for it behind Bill Clinton for years. I have thought that Hillary was going to run for the White House since 1993 when I started investigating the Clintons. She doesn't compromise. She doesn't come to the center. She believes in a true leftist, Socialist kind of government.

Q: She portrays her causes such as children's rights and women's rights in such an attractive manner. She has put conservatives on the defensive once again.
A: She has. That's the central focus of her public relations campaign...But her ideas about health care and education have very little to do with women and children. They are the lever she uses to bring the government into the family.

Q: She's been pushing treaties such as the Convention on the Rights of the Child and the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women. Isn't she promoting global government?
A: Yes.We all know about her book, It Takes a Village. She says the future is not family but the larger village of teachers, pediatricians and social workers. She talks about raising children as less of a parental task than a social one...You have the destruction of the family unit. That's very basic when you study Socialism and Marxism. (30)

Squaawk, Squuawk! Nutcase! Nutcase!

Dr. NO's a Spoiler! Squawwwk! SPOILER! Nutcase Spoiler!

Squawk! NO-NO! No-No Dr. NO-NO! Squawk! Fruitcake! Christmas Fruitcake!

Posted by: RAT-The | December 23, 2007 04:34 PM

Whoa, Rat! Who is the nutcase here? Missed your meds, dude.

OMG, Nader

Dr. Ron Paul, just raised close to $20 million, Hillary-type money. He has won the majority of local GOP straw polls. He will easily be in the top-five in real elections. Yet, Fox is trying to exclude him from a five-man roundtable. Fishy, no?

Let's look at Fox' Board of Directors for another explanation. Here are some members: Rupert Murdoch, CEO News Corp.; Andrew S.B. Knight of Rothschild Investment Trust , the banking dynasty ; Former Education Secretary Rod Paige; and Viet Dinh Professor of Law, author of the Patriot Act.

A glance at the Communist Manifesto shows that government schools, central banking, and control of communications are several of the basic tenets of collectivism. Fox' Board members are A-list practictioners of this philosophy.
In contrast, Ron Paul' opposes federal control of educaton, and the loss of our freedoms in the Patriot Act. He wants a sound currency based on savings and tangible assets, not debt and thin air.

Moreover, "Republican" propagandist News Corp is a big donor to Hillary. Her top donor is Goldman Sachs, and they throw plenty to Obama and leveraged-buyout king Romney. This is a "Who's Who" list of the housing bubble and dollar destruction, not fair arbiters in an election. Ron Paul's top donors? Individuals from the Armed Forces. I say we exclude Fox - we need Dr. Ron Paul.

It is quite gratifying to find that so many people understand how the international bankers have been fleecing gullible people by controlling the money supply. The next issue is when will people demand change? None of the candidates (except Ron Paul) dare to touch this problem since they need campaign money from these same swindlers to buy their way into power. We truly do need a revolution in the way we manage our currency. (And our Political campaigns)

For all you folks that didn't hear what Dr. Paul actually said about the War of Northern Aggression, (you Yankees call it a 'Civil War'); when asked about that and slavery, Dr. Paul said "We could have done like Britain did, and bought the slaves ......", he was just throwing out a suggestion and Russert cut him off before he could say any more and went to a different question.

Secondly, for those of you who are not aquainted with real history and are only aware o9f the revisionist history which has been written by carpetbaggers and their fellow-travellers, the Confederate Constitution outlawed the importation of slaves. Therefore, if the US Government would have bought the slaves (purchasing slaves to give them their freedom was an ongoing practice in those days) and then set them free, there would have been no more slaves ..... ergo, Dr. Paul was right, it would have saved 600,000 lives and many millions of gold-backed dollars.

Use Google for something other than looking for porno sites and get your history straight before you criticise someone who knows a lot more about history than you do!!

Ron Paul is a lunatic.

1. He is unaware that the founders of his Party advocated abolition via banning slavery in territories and then by compensated emancipation where it existed -- that the election of Lincoln on this platform precipitated Southern Secession and the Civil War.

2. He is also unaware that his Party created the Federal Reserve Bank, originally known as the Aldrich Reserve System after Sen. Nelson Aldrich (R. RI) because gold based money, to which Paul wants to return, produced numerous deflations and panics in an expanding economy.

3. The same moron claims to be a libertarian in favor of decriminalizing drugs and prostitution, yet wants to criminalize abortion. Apparently the only function of the federal government under Ron Paul would be find, indicte, proseucte and execute women who have had abortions. Never mind that the regulation of sex, reproduction and abortion is very definitely NOT an enumerated power given to the Federal Government.

How did Ron Paul manage to graduate high school (if he did), let alone get an MD (if he did)? I don't believe it. This is the most ignorant and misguided candidate for a major party nomination in our history -- worse even than Huckabee.

Just wondering if anyone actually knew that slavery wasn't even an issue in the Civil War until about a year and a half into it. It was about State's Rights people...

Ron Paul's success speaks to the level of discontent with George Bush. He has energized formerly apathetic voters. Sadly, the result will be greater apathy among those same voters.
Ohg.
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/09/ron-paul-and-inexperienced-voters/

Ron Paul is a straight talking truth teller. The establishment republicans can't stand him. Why? Because he stands against all the evil and corrupt war mongering and financial attacking of our government by Bush. Ron Paul is not a wacko although Tim Russert tried hard to make him look small and stupid. What happened is that Paul showed that he is head and shoulders above Russert and is taller in knowledge than any candidate running for president. I am a democrat and admire and respect this fine man.

He reminds me of another Paul...Paulson, Pat. He even looks like him. How much of his huge kitty has been Fed-Ex'd to him by the Democratic Party? He's nothing more than a spoiler should he run as a third party candidate. That is the only purpose of a third party, as we all well know, and it always seems to tilt toward getting another Democrat into office. Perhaps that's the only way the Clinton Family has to get elected. Ron Paul is their trump card.

Is it me or where the fox news questions to DR. Paul in South Carolina rude. What is up with that. "Is he electable". He should have asked him is he a retard. And why do all of the fox news people look like they are down syndrome cases. The guy has a slanted head.

Dr. Paul is a great man and he has done this country a great service, I pray that he is elected! He is the closest thing that we have to Thomas Jefferson.

Fox needs to realize that they are making the news look bad, because we can really see how biased it is and who really is running the show.

And a few candidates where laughing at him. John McCain looks like a DC folly cartoon character.

And Huckabee looks like the guy from Men and Black that eyes pop out!

I hear hear that Juliana is a cross dresser, wow!

And the guy with the greesy hair has illegal working at his home.