Richardson Scorns Clinton Aides, Defends Clinton
By Zachary A. Goldfarb
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said today that the people around Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton practice "gutter" politics and that they feel entitled to the presidency, a day after an informal adviser to her campaign compared Richardson to Judas for endorsing Sen. Barack Obama.
James Carville told the New York Times that Richardson, a former member of Bill Clinton's Cabinet, had committed "an act of betrayal," adding that it "came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out [Jesus] for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic."
"I'm not going to get in the gutter like that," Richardson responded on "Fox News Sunday." "And you know, that's typical of many of the people around Senator Clinton. They think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency."
"I am very loyal to the Clintons," said Richardson, but he said he wanted something beyond "Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton." "You know, what about the rest of us?" he asked.
He called for "a new generation of leadership," and added, "I think Obama represents this new change of not just bipartisanship, but bringing people together, bringing races together, bringing America's role in the world to be respected again."
Richardson defended the Clinton campaign against the accusation of an Obama ally who suggested that Bill Clinton was calling Obama's patriotism into question.
The former president said Friday, "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
Those remarks, according to retired Air Force Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak, sounded like those of Joseph McCarthy, the 1950s senator who led a crusade against communists.
"I don't believe President Clinton was implying that" Obama is unpatriotic, Richardson said.
"The campaign has gotten too negative," the New Mexico governor said, and he placed most of the blame for that on the Clinton campaign.
"I just feel the time has come to come together behind a candidate," Richardson said.
"The Obama campaign tries to have it both ways," Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell (D), a Clinton supporter, complained. "They say the campaign's too negative, and they go out and turn an innocent remark" into something else.
"We wish the issues of race and all of this other stuff would be pushed to the background so we could have a discussion of who's got the most experience, who's got the best health care plan, who has the best plan for the economy," Rendell continued. "And instead they launch this all-out attack trying to take an inference out of President Clinton's words that no fair person could take."
Rendell acknowledged that "it's very difficult" for Clinton to overcome Obama in the popular vote or pledged delegates even if she wins his state's primary by a commanding margin on April 22.
But he said the Obama campaign is inconsistent with how it wants superdelegates, the party officials who have a vote at the Democratic convention, to line up. The Obama campaign says superdelegates' votes should reflect the will of the people, Rendell said, but only when it's convenient.
"[W]e have Senator [Ted] Kennedy and Senator [John] Kerry saying they're going to vote for Obama even though Senator Clinton won by 13 points in Massachusetts," Rendell said. "If we follow the Obama line, Bill Richardson should be for Senator Clinton."
As for his own state, Rendell said, "Senator Clinton is going to win a solid majority. And when you combine that with Ohio and Texas and Florida and Michigan and all of the other key states that we have to win in November, it sends a very important message that if we want to win -- and I think that's what Democrats care most about -- that Hillary Clinton's our best candidate to win."
The shaky economy and the fifth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, which passed this last week, were also topics for discussion on the Sunday shows.
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) said on ABC's "This Week" that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke risks overstepping in the wide range of actions he is undertaking to soften the financial downturn and avert a crisis.
"I don't think he's gone too far, but ... balance here is really critical," Kyl said. "Taxpayers cannot be put on the hook to bail people out who were, in effect, speculating on this very hot housing market."
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said the Fed, and the Bush administration overall, has not "done enough, and in fact, it shouldn't have come to this."
"Had the administration acted more proactively earlier, particularly about the housing crisis, when many of us were asking them to, we wouldn't have gotten up to this point," Schumer said. "And unfortunately, this administration has sort of a Herbert Hoover mentality -- don't do anything."
But Kyl said that Democrats are the ones in the government to blame for the crisis in the credit markets.
"It wasn't the Bush administration as much as it was Democrats in Congress who were pushing the lending institutions to get out there and lend more money, even to unqualified buyers -- to the minorities, to the poor, to the young -- so that everyone could own a home," he said.
On the war in Iraq, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said in addition to the success of the U.S. military strategy "there's been major political breakthroughs."
Among them, he cited passage of a de-Baathification law and a budget, increased cooperation among ethnic groups, an amnesty law for some prisoners, and plans to hold elections in October.
But Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) said "the problem with Iraq is, every time you turn the corner, there's another corner. And I don't think politically that they've made the progress they have to make."
Graham warned that if either Clinton or Obama is elected and initiates a speedy withdrawal from Iraq, it will be a "complete disaster. ... I want to win in Iraq. I believe we can win in Iraq. The model we've created is leading to success and will eventually lead to victory. We undercut it, we're going to go backward, not forward."
[CBS Host Chip (added later)] Reid replied, "But how long would you give for it? I know everybody quotes Senator McCain as saying 100 years. Obviously, he wasn't talking about combat for 100 years. But how long would you foresee combat where American troops are fighting and dying in large numbers? Five years, 10 years, more?"
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Posted by: old_europe | March 23, 2008 2:55 PM
Anyway you cut it, the Democrats of the nation are leaning more and more towards Clinton, as these charts point out;
Hillary vs. Barack:
The Google Factor...
http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=57
Posted by: davidmwe | March 23, 2008 2:57 PM
Part of the Obama snow job where he portrayed Rev. Wright's paranoid rants as coming from anger that is the baggage as the legacy of of old white racism, carried by old blacks. Well, there is current-day stuff that is alive and well, carried by the young blacks, that is a lot worse than the racism, sexism and homophobic intolerance of the older generation of blacks. It's called Hip Hop, Gangsta and Street culture. It's full of racism, paranoia, anger, violence, abuse of women, sexism and a whole lot of dysfunctional antisocial expression schemes. The social psychological disordered behavior that Rev. Wright's hate-speech-as-sermons represents is alive and well in the current-day generation in Black America. It's just in a newer carnation.
Posted by: gary | March 23, 2008 2:58 PM
Richardson is Obama's Cheney.
Neither one has any credibility.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 3:00 PM
Bingo
Posted by: fbenjul | March 23, 2008 3:03 PM
Bingo
Posted by: fbenjul | March 23, 2008 3:03 PM
Bingo
Posted by: fbenjul | March 23, 2008 3:03 PM
Had Richardson endorsed Clinton, the Clintonistas would haved hailed him as a visionary, but since he endorsed Obama, the same cabal calls Rihardson "Judas", "Brutus", "Benedict Arnold" and other inglorious traitors. Perhaps Gov. Richardson sees the larger picture, such as the good and welfare of the Demcratic Party. The same Clintonistas do not make much of a stink of Hillary endorsing McCain like an operative over Obama (thereby committing political fratricide). This is the typical Clinton vorld view: unquestioned loyalty to them without so much as one speck of reciprocity (yes, the Clintons will throw their own under the bus; just as Lani Gunier and Webster Hubbell, for examples).
Posted by: MelDupree | March 23, 2008 3:03 PM
Rendell better work hard, because by election day Hillary is going to get a whoppin by Obama.
Posted by: Paul J. Nolan | March 23, 2008 3:04 PM
I am disappointed in Bill Richardson. He simply talks too much for his own good. Likes the sound of his own voice too much to stop talking. Didn't take him long to adopt the Obama rhetoric and sound bites.
The gutter politics that Richardson refers to is practiced by the Obama camp just as much if not more. The recent pilings-on by the Obama camp has been nothing short of childishness and pettiness.
The Clintons enjoy a huge amount of support amongst the Hispanics because of a long track record of helping that community. Like Asians, I bet the Hispanics aren't fickle in their loyalty. In contrast to Richardson's stated reason (i.e. he was so bowled over by Obama's speech), the real reason he waited until now is because the Florida and Michigan re-vote proposition is dead in the water, stone walled in Michigan by the Obama followers. Since Richardson couldn't win the nomination in his own right (has anyone listened to his debates? They are a snoozer), he is hoping to ride Obama's coattails.
If Obama doesn't win the general election (I have doubts he will), Richardson will be sorry he betted on the wrong horse.
Posted by: alee21 | March 23, 2008 3:05 PM
Bingo!
Posted by: fbenjul | March 23, 2008 3:06 PM
Bingo!
Posted by: fbenjul | March 23, 2008 3:06 PM
Clinton and their cronies are an arrogant disgusting bunch of clowns. If they continue their little campaign of hate then this country is going to get lunatic John McCain and his 100 years of war.
Posted by: Mike | March 23, 2008 3:08 PM
Bill Richardson is disingenuous. He says he wants to unite the party, he wants the Democrats to win, but instead of trying to pull Clinton supporters and the Obama supporters together, he not only alienates Clinton supporters, he fosters bitterness between the two sides. Many believe that Clinton is far better for the country. Obama offers words, he has not done anything, he has not been seasoned on the national and international level. Obama needs to be seasoned. A true Democrat - not Richarson - would work to bring the two sides together.
Posted by: W. Shea | March 23, 2008 3:08 PM
Richardson is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I watched that interview. He was saying that super-delegates should vote like their voters and but then he should be voting for Clinton. He accused the Clintons of campaigning dirty, but Friday Obama's campaign called Clinton a liar and accused her of having bad character. I mean, the Obama campaign on Friday stooped to a level of gratuitously insulting personal negativity that no other candidates (Republican or Democrat) has sunk to this campaign season. But Richardson called Clinton's campaign "gutter".
Richardson's obviously not anywhere near being impartial and has not only turned against his old patrons who gave him a start in politics, but is very eagerly stabbing them in the back in ways that would be personally hurtful.
Posted by: Annette | March 23, 2008 3:08 PM
Davidmwe,
Those charts point out nothing. "More and more Democrats are leaning towards Clinton?" Just how do you derive that from something that is even less scientific than the Zogby polls (if that is possible)?
Posted by: HisRoc | March 23, 2008 3:09 PM
Rendell is RIGHT ON. Obama can't have it both ways.
Can't criticize Clinton for negative campaigning and then do it himself.(eg the 'Mccarthy' BS).
Can't cry foul on race and then use phrases like 'typical white person' or affiliate with racists.
Can't say superdelegates should vote with their constituents and then accept those who are NOT voting with their constituents.
This is not 'new' politics. What a sham.
Posted by: Ann | March 23, 2008 3:11 PM
I read the online headline and then the article. The Post's headline is totally misleading. Your paper's subtle anti-Hillary bias is becoming blatant. The Pennsylvania governor is correct. Media like the Post really do distort simple statements.
Posted by: Jonathan | March 23, 2008 3:13 PM
Well, Democratic party unity is not being well served so far. Even as a Republican, I hope this situation is on the mend well before the election. I have voted for Democrats before and may well again this time, if it looks like the best choice would be a Democrat. It would be nice to think a Democrat could win this time if need be. Can't have half the party po'd against the other half and expect a win.
Posted by: Bill Mosby | March 23, 2008 3:13 PM
John McCain must be getting a laugh out of all of this. The man endorsed by President Bush, and who lauded Bush's administration, may just win because the Dems can't get beyond the bickering and focus on something important: it's not about them, it's about the country.
Posted by: Steve | March 23, 2008 3:16 PM
If Hillary wants to keep talking about how great her health care plan is, she ought to disclose how much money she's taken from HMO Pac's while in the Senate. Besides, in addition to being in the pocket of the industry, she's already had her shot at reforming health care, and she failed miserably.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 3:17 PM
If Hillary wants to keep talking about how great her health care plan is, she ought to disclose how much money she's taken from HMO Pac's while in the Senate. Besides, in addition to being in the pocket of the industry, she's already had her shot at reforming health care, and she failed miserably.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 3:17 PM
Bill Richardson is Judas
Obama is a fraud. All those who believe his "words" are idealistic idiots
Obama should win the dem nomination and be thrashed by McCain in Nov
Posted by: NOWAYOBAMA | March 23, 2008 3:18 PM
The Obama campaign has shown itself to be the most negative of the bunch. What a hypocrite.
Posted by: Cathy | March 23, 2008 3:18 PM
Bill Richardson must be on peyote if he thinks Obama is a "uniter". He can't even unite his own party, let alone the other side.
Posted by: Typical White Person | March 23, 2008 3:19 PM
Senator Clinton has been subjected to and continues to be subjected to some of the most mean spirited, demeaning, sexist attacks from the media and Clinton haters. Rather than allow herself to be swiftboated, she strikes back. President Clinton campaigns for his spouse just as all the other candidates spouses do and the media and Clinton haters decide that it is wrong and take out of context things he says. Somehow, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are held to a different standard.
No, the people around Clinton are just like everyone else but they are being held to a different standard. Of course it has also been decided that Obama is off limits and can not be subjected to the vigors of a campaign as any other candidate is. If Obama's people think things are bad now, I would hate to see what they will do once Republicans gear up.
Bill Richardson, you can endorse anyone you want but don't try to fight your guilt by blaming the Clinton's for your decision.
Posted by: catmontx | March 23, 2008 3:19 PM
When are the superdelegates going to realize that they need to coalesce around Barack Obama, and for the sake of the Democratic party it's better to do so sooner rather than later?
Barack Obama has won, and will continue to have won, more contests, more elected delegates, and more of the popular vote. By interceding now, the Democratic leadership can stop the Clintons from pushing voters away from Obama and toward McCain.
If the superdelegates wait until June, or worse, the convention, they'll still end up needing to support Obama. Otherwise, they will implode the Democratic party for going against the will of the people. The future of the party-- the millennials-- would be disenfranchised and turn away from the Democrats in droves.
If the superdelegates wait to support Obama, the Clintons will have inflicted significant damage against him with their destructive kitchen sink strategy, while McCain waits in the wings to benefit from the fruits of their labor.
The superdelegates would be wise to step in NOW and end this vanity exercise of the Clintons. The Clinton strategy is clear, to sabotage Obama sufficiently that they either steal the nomination for 2008, or damage his chances sufficiently that he will lose the general election and Hillary can run again in 2012.
Superdelegates should see that the future of the Democratic party, the 2008 election, and the country is on the line. What are they waiting for?
Posted by: Karen S, Arlington | March 23, 2008 3:20 PM
Obama continues to surround himself with losers. Ted Kennedy lost his bid for President, so did John Kerry and now both Dodd and Richardson. Obama's campaign appears to be run by a bunch of resentful losers who could not win an election. Now the Obama campaign has gone very negative against Hillary. I guess a bunch of losers would really be upset if Hillary was able to accomplish what they were not.
Posted by: starbucks2 | March 23, 2008 3:20 PM
Obama continues to surround himself with losers. Ted Kennedy lost his bid for President, so did John Kerry and now both Dodd and Richardson. Obama's campaign appears to be run by a bunch of resentful losers who could not win an election. Now the Obama campaign has gone very negative against Hillary. I guess a bunch of losers would really be upset if Hillary was able to accomplish what they were not.
Posted by: starbucks2 | March 23, 2008 3:20 PM
Richardson needs to shut his fat, hairy, doublechinned mouth. His fat a$$ couldn't even get more than 2% of the vote.
Posted by: Bill R. is a big fat idiot | March 23, 2008 3:20 PM
Obama continues to surround himself with losers. Ted Kennedy lost his bid for President, so did John Kerry and now both Dodd and Richardson. Obama's campaign appears to be run by a bunch of resentful losers who could not win an election. Now the Obama campaign has gone very negative against Hillary. I guess a bunch of losers would really be upset if Hillary was able to accomplish what they were not.
Posted by: starbucks2 | March 23, 2008 3:20 PM
Hillary's arrogance and hubris are exceeded only by her desperation, at this point. And of course her staff is going to take the heat for their degenerate and sick remarks. That's Clintonian Politics 101.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 3:23 PM
Clinton is her own Cheney. She has no credibility.
Posted by: Bryan | March 23, 2008 3:24 PM
HisRoc, hi- you are right... it does not say who will vote for whom, however does say that more are looking into Clinton and visiting her website than a month ago, for instance.
No one can say with 100% who they will vote for until they come out of the box on election day.
Posted by: davidmwe | March 23, 2008 3:25 PM
Richardson is a fat, ugly traitor
Posted by: dklfjda | March 23, 2008 3:25 PM
If you want more of what this country has gone through, then vote for a 100 year occupation for US troops in Irag, sponsored by Sen. McCain.
Elect Sen. Clinton and your get her husband, which is a liability in any language. If you are looking for real change, bipartisanship, and a new vision for this country then cast your ballot for Sen. Obama
Posted by: Dale Moore | March 23, 2008 3:25 PM
Amen, Gov. Richardson. It is time the rest of the party elders urged Hillary to give it up already. She can't win without the nomination being handed to her and she is not more important than changing the direction of the country. The super delegates should put an end to this back biting and let her know now that they aren't going to hand the nomination to her.
Posted by: Sara B. | March 23, 2008 3:25 PM
Hillary and Bill have become huge jerks. They care a lot more about themselves and their careers that they do the political process.
During this election they have validated just about everything the Republican right has been saying about them all of these years. Its unbelievable. But then again we've seen it before.
In Bill's first month in office instead of creating an executive order to support gays in the military and take a stand against exclusion and persecution among the ranks based on sexual choice, he caved to the generals out of fear for his career.
And at a time when he could have made a significant impact on the state of the nation and the world, ultimately little Billy Clinton was more concerned with his D***. No surprise that Hillary, Carville and the others would be cut of the same amoral cloth.
Billy turned to race politics in South Carolina when his wife's career looked like it would (rightly) go up in smoke. So much for the first black president.
Posted by: Mr. Fair Minded Person | March 23, 2008 3:26 PM
Bill Richardson should worry more about having the hair on his back waxed and less about Clinton's aides. He's crossed over and now he's got to ride Obama's bus over a cliff. Enjoy the ride!
Posted by: Who is Bill Richardson Anyway? | March 23, 2008 3:26 PM
Duck everyone, lest you get hit with the mud that's being slung. Your Democratic Party at work!
Posted by: waterfrontproperty | March 23, 2008 3:26 PM
Bill Clinton has a past that predicts that when in political trouble, he does the same thing. He lies! Lies about Paula Jones (he settled for the entire amount), lies about having "sex" with Monica Lewinsky, and lies about his lies, such that his law license was removed from him.
So, Clinton lies again. What else is new. He is not unlike many politicians, but his analysis not trustworthy. He does have a dog in this fight, and apologies to all dogs everywhere.
Posted by: lxg | March 23, 2008 3:27 PM
I'm still waiting for Obama to apologize to me for his "typical white person" remark? I'm just a typical old racist white person Obama? Screw that, I'm voting McCain if you win.
Posted by: No to Obama | March 23, 2008 3:29 PM
Any reasonable person would find Bill Clinton's comments off-putting. It is exactly this kind of underhanded, suggestive, passive-aggressive politics that Clintons are masters of that turn voters off. Clinton's comments not only hurt his wife's compaign but also damage his own credibility as a senoir leader of the demoncratic party.
Posted by: Cara | March 23, 2008 3:29 PM
Why is it that whenever the Obama campaign goes after Clinton, it is just criticism.
However, any remark from the Clinton campaign is viewed as "gutter" politics.
They threw up a picture of Wright & Bill Clinton together; Obama calls Hillary Clinton a liar; Bill Clinton is referred to as a Joe McCarthy; Hillary Clinton's character is "questioned".
I am disgusted by the double standard and that the media has given Obama a pass!
How long was the Wash. Post aware of the racist pastor Wright? Since before Iowa and it sat on the story! Shame on the Post!
Posted by: Fred C. Dobbs | March 23, 2008 3:33 PM
It appears every day Mrs. Clinton spends attacking Mr. Obama, she seems to be making it easier for John McCain to be the next president of the US. Is it not time for Mrs. Clinton to suspend her campaign for the sake of the unity of the Democratic party?
Posted by: PJudice | March 23, 2008 3:34 PM
First I thought it was "all about the delegates." Then when Obama had more delegates "it is all because of black people." And then when Obama won states like Alaska and Utah, it became "all about the popular vote." Then when Obama went on to supercede Clinton by an unbridgeable nearly 1,000,000 votes, it became "all about winning the important states" (as if states like NY and CA wouldn't vote Democratic this fall), and so on.
It's getting tiresome. Let's follow the rules, and go with the candidate who has won a) the most delegates b) the most primaries c) the greatest margin of the popular vote and d) the largest number of private, grass-roots contributions from ordinary people and get behind Obama finally.
He's earned it.
Posted by: Charles Hammond | March 23, 2008 3:35 PM
us out here include your whole party bill.
Posted by: gary | March 23, 2008 3:37 PM
Hillary's blind ambition and dirty dancing around the truth cannot blind us to the simple truth that she would be a disaster if given the power of the presidency. All republicans must yearn for her nomination so they can win in a landslide and regain the majority in Congress. Don't let her Nixonesque dirty tricks fool us into ignoring her truly dark character.
Posted by: Chicago Democrat | March 23, 2008 3:37 PM
The Obama campaign has been practicing gutter politics as much, if not more than the Clinton campaign? Are you kidding me? What planet are you living on?
Posted by: Jeff | March 23, 2008 3:37 PM
IceNine wrote:
I'm a registered Independent. After reading the sludge in so many posts today, I think the Democratic Party may have to rename itself as the Demographic Party. (At least I tried to inject some humor...)
Let me get serious: Forget the tactical garbage that the Clintons are throwing. Take a longer view. Here's my estimate of the Clinton's deep game: They know the math is against them and cannot be overcome in the primaries (due to the proportional delegate system). So their only hope lies with the superdelegates.
Most analysis says that the way to win over superdelegates is to persuade them. I believe, however, that the Cintons' deep strategy is to use the remaining primaries as a veiled threat to the party establishment: "Give Hillary the nomination or we'll slash-and-burn up to (and during) the convention. We'll inflict carnage for months and leave nothing but wreckage in out wake--unless you come on board."
It might work. Consider how timid and pliant Congress has been to Bush, folding like a cheap tent on vote after vote after vote. The national Democratic leadership can be browbeaten and intimidated. The Clintons know it. I expect their campaign will get even nastier because it makes their threat more credible.
What extraordinary egomania to display when the nation is at this crossroads.
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That is a scary concept but I think you might be on to something. The Clinton campaign knows that they are losing. They are now threatening to destroy the Democratic party unless the nomination is given to the losing candidate.
Posted by: Hillary stop destroying the Democatic Party | March 23, 2008 3:38 PM
Bill Richardson did not serve as Ambassador to the UN or Secretary of Energy under Hillary Clinton he served during Bill Clinton's Presidency.. so I don't know where the Judas comments come from... They were after all rivals and Richardson was running for President too. Is it Hillary or Bill Clinton who is running for president?. James Carville needs to think before he speaks and stop the cry-baby politics. Mr. Carville, sir the year is 2008 not 1992.. Change with the times sir. Game, Set, -- advantage Obama.
Posted by: sunnyside1 | March 23, 2008 3:38 PM
If Richardson had endorsed Hillary. Her surogets would have called him John the Baptist. I think once all the comparissons are done in what Hillary really said during her White House years the American people will see that her truth telling is Bush lite. Tell people anything then sort it out later.
Posted by: Ed | March 23, 2008 3:39 PM
I'm betting that the person who posted a comment under the identity "Bill R. is a big fat idiot" is an angry Clinton campaign worker.
Did Bill get under your thin skin a little? Did his words hit a little too close to the mark for comfort?
Posted by: VerbalKint | March 23, 2008 3:39 PM
Folks, this is how the Democrats are going to lose in November despite eight years of the Bush regime. Hillary and Obama should both be ashamed of themselves for putting their self-interests and petty infighting before doing what is best for this country.
Posted by: Tirade | March 23, 2008 3:39 PM
If the public debate is discouraging, the tendentious biases and the close-mindedness of those making individual comments is deeply disheartening, with a likely outcome that intra-Democratic warfare will lead to the election of a Republican. For myself, I happen to distrust the Washington Post, but for those who say it has a pro-Obama bias, they should recall the FACT that the Post endorsed Hillary Clinton between the two!
Posted by: w | March 23, 2008 3:40 PM
Richardson is a obese slimy phony bum!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 3:40 PM
Richardson is a obese slimy phony bum!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 3:40 PM
"Clinton and their cronies are an arrogant disgusting bunch of clowns. If they continue their little campaign of hate then this country is going to get lunatic John McCain and his 100 years of war."
Mike, getting McCain into office in November IS Clinton's strategy! The only chance she still has, at age 60, of the White House is to damage Obama so much that McCain wins the White House this year. Then, after 4 years of struggling with a faltering economy and an agonizingly slow exit from Iraq, he will be weakened enough for her to run against in 2012. Most serious analysts are already seeing this, including Jim Vanderhei of the Post.
I fear that Clinton's fervid supporters don't understand what they are fighting for at this point. They are fighting for McCain in '08, Hillary in '12. I never thought I'd see this, but that's what's happening. Nominal democrats standing shoulder to shoulder with Rush Limbaugh working to get a Republican into the White House.
Posted by: Mark | March 23, 2008 3:40 PM
Bill Richardson is right to back Obama, as should right thinking people. Most people in America have no idea what the true history of this country is as it relates to the plight of African Americans. Some of the same people who are bashing Obama on Fox News, MSNBC, and the New York Times, are the same folk who would have been hanging Black people from trees, standing around as innocent Black men were being burned alive in the 1920's, and also preventing Black people from voting.
The world is different people, and we have to pick "new" leadership, even if it happens to be in another body, other than that of a white man.
Posted by: Yehu | March 23, 2008 3:40 PM
Sore loosers, that's what the Clintons are. They did everything known to man to either get Richradson to endorse them or withhold his endorsement and they failed in both. True to their practice, they proceeded to belittle Richardson. The same happened with every loss that they have sustained in this race: the voters were too Black, too young, too rich or just about anything you can think of. On the other hand, the states that they won or those who voted for her were the only ones that really matter. The "give me a break this is the biggest fairy tale" uttered by Bill in NH or the "Jackson won here too" fit the pattern. Yogi Berra would say this is "du deja vu all over again". Blaming Obama for the non revote in Florida and Michigan is right from their playbook: since when Obama makes parti rules?
If the Clintons had their way, all the contests should have been like Michigan: one candidate on the ballot, that's what you call an entitlement mentality. By the way where did the Wright video come from? I guess that if Obama survives this episode, there won't be much that the Republicans can do... There's only so much that a kitchen sink can hold before it goes empty.
General de Gaulle used to say that he could deal with outside ennemies but how do you defend against those within your own parti?
Posted by: JOHN OF CHICAGO | March 23, 2008 3:42 PM
Good example of a power seeking back stabber which unfortunately is hispanic. If I was the devil I would sure love to have him as a partner oh, umm, wait maybe not.
Posted by: F. Rivera | March 23, 2008 3:43 PM
Oh Yeah, the Clinton inner circle is so full of "gutter" politics.
How about his own candidate's inner circle?
"OBAMA CHURCH PUBLISHED HAMAS TERROR MANIFESTO, Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence"
(http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456)
Or how about this scanned image of a Trinity Church Rev. Wright Newsletter:
In this self-published op-ed piece where he is referring to Hamas and his own organization as "us", Rev. Wright explains "But what of the characterization by the West of our movement as beyond the pale of civilized discourse? Our "militant" stance cannot by itself be a qualifying factor, as many armed struggles have historically resulted in a place at the table of nations. Nor can any deny the reasonableness of our fight against the occupation and the right of Palestinians to have dignity, justice and self-rule."
It sure sounds to me as if Rev. Wright is referring to his church as "militant" that considers itself in an "armed struggle" united with Hamas, a terrorist organization.
(http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg)
Politics doesn't get more poisonous, hateful or "gutter" than what the people Obama chooses to embrace are into.
I wonder if it's painful for Richardson to be such a hypocrite. What does he mean by the use of the word "gutter"? That word is often used as a degrading way to refer to alien religions.
Posted by: Annette | March 23, 2008 3:43 PM
Judas Richardson is a traitorous scab. He's an opportunist who sold his soul. Hah! Ew. He disgusts me. Fat wannabe. Clinton is better off without the scab. Ew. I hope the people of NM show him their disgust, too. He's still trying to fit into the suit he wore at Clinton's 1996 inauguration. Judas. Brutus. Benedict Arnold. Ew.
Posted by: Sharon | March 23, 2008 3:44 PM
I dislike the practice of finding something sinister in things that are really harmless, but I really see no way to characterize the comment by Bill Clinton as harmless. He said (emphasis added), ""I think it WOULD be a great thing IF we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country..." IF means that we might not have such an election, which implies that 1 of the 2 people seeking the Democratic nomination does not love this country. There is simply no other way to interpret his comment than as an attack against Obama.
Posted by: Steve | March 23, 2008 3:45 PM
Hillary often mentions her time in the white house as wife of Bill clinton; if she was so aware of what was going on in the white hourse during this time - then why did she not stop Bill from all the indicent acts he committed during this time which brought so much shame to the office and damaged respect for the USA in the world; she had a right as a wife, and an obligation as a patriate to do something. Yet she did not - choosing instead to cover up for him.
Posted by: Vincent Bezzina | March 23, 2008 3:45 PM
I am very loyal to the Clintons," said Richardson.
I am puzzled by the governor's statement of loyalty. If what he did with his endorsement is an expression of loyalty I wouldn't want to see what he would do, being disloyal.
Posted by: tydicea | March 23, 2008 3:45 PM
Is that comment about "having the hair on his back waxed" some kind of inappropriate racial stereotype from 1957, or do you really believe that's part of a productive dialogue about the important political issues and national potential of our time?
Posted by: Southern Shape Shifter | March 23, 2008 3:45 PM
If you want more of what this country has gone through, then vote for a 100 year occupation for US troops in Irag, sponsored by Sen. McCain.
Elect Sen. Clinton and your get her husband, which is a liability in any language. If you are looking for real change, bipartisanship, and a new vision for this country then cast your ballot for Sen. Obama
Posted by: Dale Moore | March 23, 2008 03:25 PM
Dale, that was my take until this Wright flap unfolded. My wife likes Hillary mainly because she was the force for universal healthcare in 1993 and was the force behind S-CHIPS after 1997. She as an immigrant also didn't like Ms Obama's comments about the USA. I liked Barack for his war stand and just his personality compared to Hillary. For me it's a tough call now after seeing Wright. That kind of a mentor speaks volumes about the character or lack of it in Barack. Hope you're right .... I think I would vote for Hillary though if I had the chance again. We do have a 4 year old with Diabetes who benefits from Hillary's S-CHIPS program so we have some connection there. As for Richardson .... considering what the Clinton's did for him, loyalty appears to not in either his vocabulary or character.
Posted by: Philip | March 23, 2008 3:48 PM
Both Clintons have given false praise to McSame and lost me at that point. Prior to that, I was open to both HRC and BO and was undecided. I'm ashamed of how both Clintons have acted in the past month. I thought they were above that. It appears to me that they are willing to destroy our party to win at any cost. Well, that might still happen in the end but that's just the nomination.
Anyone doubting how uniting a Clinton nomination will be to the Republican Party is drinking the same kool aide given out so liberally over the past 7 years. I will never vote for McSame, but sure hope I don't have to cringe as I vote Clinton.
Obama is our only hope for the future.
Posted by: capone1 | March 23, 2008 3:48 PM
Bill richardson is a traitor and a loser. I would not be surprised if he is angling for the vice presidency and hitching himself to the apparent Obama star. He may just be surprised when it does not turn out as he is speculating. I know a lot of Hillary supporters who are not running their mouths about it, but will show themselves for Hillary in the voting booth and will vote for McCain if Obama gets the election. Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot again, remember Gore and Kerry?
Posted by: jutta Rubright | March 23, 2008 3:49 PM
Annette,
If you are going to post lies about Obama, at least you should try to cover it up by NOT using World Net Daily as a source. This is a big red flag that screams "right wing wacko".
Now get off the computer and back to listening to Rush.
Posted by: VerbalKint | March 23, 2008 3:49 PM
Democrats do not support Clinton. Monarchists support Clinton.
Posted by: Angry Liberal | March 23, 2008 3:49 PM
Wow. I just read through these comments and the Republicans must be eating it up - so divisive, so angry. It's a shame too, because there are two very competent candidates running - each with their strengths and weaknesses. There is no perfect candidate, which is why politics is so fun.
As a woman, I'm proud of Senator Clinton. She's smart, articulate, and scrappy. Personally, however, I think a Hillary Clinton candidacy is perhaps the only thing that could really motivate the Republican base come November. Yes, Obama has some areas to overcome, but I don't think they remotely compare to Hillary's weaknesses, even if they are not all necessarily her fault. A candid Republican strategist will tell you they would MUCH rather run against Hillary. Shouldn't that be the basis for superdelegates' decisions?
Posted by: calm down people | March 23, 2008 3:50 PM
Hillary refuses to reveal the last 8 years of hers and Bill's tax returns. "Just trust us?" Are you kidding me? No doubt the millions she received from the health insurance lobby, will be surpassed only by the millions Bill received from Middle Eastern governments, for access to his wife, should she become President. Clinton is the only candidate who took more money from registered lobbyists, than McCain did! Superdelegates: unite behind Obama now!
Posted by: dow2200 | March 23, 2008 3:51 PM
I'm surprise at Richardson, for endorsing Obama. A so call latino like Richardson endorsing Obama. Was'nt Richardson, Bill Clinton favor LATINO.
Obama, say we need change in Washington, and they are all trying to get to Washington D.C. everybody want to cleanup Washington D.C. this will never happen.
Posted by: Louis Levario | March 23, 2008 3:51 PM
I'm surprise at Richardson, for endorsing Obama. A so call latino like Richardson endorsing Obama. Was'nt Richardson, Bill Clinton favor LATINO.
Obama, say we need change in Washington, and they are all trying to get to Washington D.C. everybody want to cleanup Washington D.C. this will never happen.
Posted by: Louis Levario | March 23, 2008 3:51 PM
Hillary is scum. There. I've sunk to your level.
Posted by: Truth Seeker | March 23, 2008 3:51 PM
A "carnation" is a flower.
Posted by: Note to Gary | March 23, 2008 3:52 PM
I think the theory that the Clintons are using a slash and burn strategy against the party is a sound one. They (and their supporters) keep getting uglier. Just look at the hate-filled comments posted here. The super-delegates need to start taking a stand now, to put an end to it one way or the other.
Posted by: VerbalKint | March 23, 2008 3:53 PM
Hillary is pulling in every dirty trick and throwing in everything but the kitchen sink in her desperate and flawed bid for the Democratic nomination. She can do the math and do the right thing for the Democratic party. Right now, her desperation is only helping McCain.
Posted by: savypol | March 23, 2008 3:53 PM
Hillary is not scum.
Posted by: Apologist for Ruthless Self Aggrandisement | March 23, 2008 3:54 PM
Hillary is not scum.
Posted by: Apologist for Ruthless Self Aggrandisement | March 23, 2008 3:54 PM
to davidmwe: anyway you cut it, hummmm nope so the week that Hillary had a lead in polls the polls matter, but before that poll came out and now that the polls are again going in Obamas favor they dont matter, cause "they never listen to the polls" yea right, the clintons make me sick in every single possible way. If she wins I will feel like bush jrs twin would be the person elected, that is how much i despise her. ahhh makes me sick
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 3:55 PM
Hillary is too scum!
Posted by: Well Meaning and Kind American | March 23, 2008 3:56 PM
Evan Bayh seems like a nice enough person... he should stop repeating all the Clinton lies and distortions though...
He's just another pathetic example of typical politicians willing to say anything and repeat any pack of lies in order to gain more power.
In this case, everyone knows Bayh is at or near the top of the Clinton VP list; apparently he's enough of a wimp to be willing to share the VP spot with BILL.
Posted by: skyriak | March 23, 2008 3:57 PM
OBAMA/RICHARDSON
AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION 18%
HISPANIC AMERICAN POPULATION 33 %
the reality is that the Hispanic voter block will overwhelmingly vote for the chance to have the first Hispanic Vice President.
so what does that mean? It means that OBAMA/RICHARDSON ticket would only need 10% of the white vote to have a blowout in November, Richardson knows that.
Posted by: osirisravanz | March 23, 2008 3:57 PM
Sen Graham says we have to stay in Iraq "until we win." Can he please define win? Is it until George and Dick say so? Or maybe McCain??? Scary
Posted by: Mike | March 23, 2008 3:58 PM
Hillary is not scum!
Posted by: Fans of Cuckholded Wives | March 23, 2008 3:58 PM
Great to know that politics and this newspaper are so carefully followed by such an assortment of rabid incoherent troglodytes. Gives me faith in the system.
Posted by: David G | March 23, 2008 3:59 PM
Why isn't anyone talking about issues? Reverend Wright, James Carville and all the rest of the brick throwing just serves to distract us from the differences between these two candidates.
Obama has steered a steady course, and while not focusing on solutions to complex problems he at least recognizes their complexity and the need for us to work together to solve them. In a polarized political landscape fractured by personal and special interests this is a breath of fresh air, especially considering the multitude of seemingly insurmountable problems that have been piling up since Reagan.
Hillary, on the other hand, is desperately seeking nonmination by transparently shifting positions in a last ditch attempt to find something, anything, that will resonate with voters. And as that fails the mud-slinging increases to the detriment of us all. Guilt by association, reverse racism, how far will it go, and how far will Americans buy into it?
Hillary's health care plan will deliver more profits to insurance companies instead of health care to citizens. This should be no surprise, since the health care (read insurance) lobby is one of her largest contributors, and has been since she chaired the President's Task Force on Health Care Reform, which is also the only single issue that she can truthfully present as political experience. Her time as a New York State Senator doesn't count, because all she has done is waffle on issues and follow the lead set by others after the fact (John Murtha, etc.).
Kudos to Richardson for understanding that the Clintons are there when they need you, and that the presidency is about more than personal power and glory.
Posted by: Noah | March 23, 2008 3:59 PM
Senator Clinton lost 12 primaries in a row. Or was it 13? No other candidate could stand to lose half that many. It is time for the Clintons to - uncharacteristically - bow out gracefully and endorse Obama. And, Rendell, you are full of it when you suggest Bill's remark about "two candidates who love their country" meant nothing. The Clintons know precisely what they say when they say it. You know, like bullets in Bosnia.
Posted by: Besseta | March 23, 2008 4:01 PM
The only call that Hillary ever took at 3am in the White House was from Bill telling her he wasn't coming home again.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:01 PM
Richardson is Judas-what a perfect analogy and true. Obama is a do-nothing Senator that attracts supporters by words, not by action. He has done absolutely nothing in the Senate. If I'm wrong, provide proof of legislation that has passed Congress.
Posted by: Kendle | March 23, 2008 4:02 PM
Rendell represents the worst of nepotism. If Bill Clinton hadn't given Midge Rendell her judgeship, he would be in the winner's camp instead of Clinton's. In addition, I'll bet Mayor Nutter is kicking himself right now for going along with Rendell. So much for the federal funds Philadelphia will need to clean up it's act. He can call Obama any time of night on any color phone and it will keep on ringing!
Posted by: Guster | March 23, 2008 4:02 PM
Of course the Clintonistas would call Richardson a Judas. They know all about that. The staffers are invalidators, very Marxist. They also go to prison, are prosecuted and all sorts of things while the Clintons sit around and say "oh I didn't know about that" after instigating it with their pons.
Posted by: MissClrity | March 23, 2008 4:03 PM
Thanks for the endorsement of Obama, Bill. This former Democrat just made a donation to John McCain. I encourage other Americans that are sick of political bickering to do the same at: http://www.johnmccain.com/
Posted by: Thanks Bill | March 23, 2008 4:03 PM
Hillary definitely is scum.
Posted by: Rabid Incoherent Troglodytes | March 23, 2008 4:03 PM
The Clintons are punishing Richardson in the hope of staving off further disaffections. Those who tell Hillary they will endorse Obama report having an unpleasant phone call. So not only do they have to put up with her crap, now they can expect to be called Judas or who knows what.
Posted by: Paul D. | March 23, 2008 4:03 PM
Hillary/Cheney in 2008!
Posted by: Split Ticket | March 23, 2008 4:05 PM
It is true, the Democrats have it over McCain and thus the Republicans;
Obama vs Clinton vs McCain -
a Web Comparison:
http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=76
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 4:05 PM
Obama will be hurt by his association with Judas Richardson. And if he does manage to get nominated, he will just lose the general election. Senator Clinton is the best candidate, by far. If Obama is so concerned about the two tearing at each other, he can always drop out himself. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Posted by: John | March 23, 2008 4:06 PM
The Clintons and their Clintonistas think anything of good report is a lie. They are the great invalidators - very MARXIST.
Posted by: MissClarity | March 23, 2008 4:06 PM
The Clintons and their Clintonistas think anything of good report is a lie. They are the great invalidators - very MARXIST.
Posted by: MissClarity | March 23, 2008 4:06 PM
A Langston Hughes poem from 70 years ago is still valid:
Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.
(America never was America to me.)
Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed--
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.
(It never was America to me.)
O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.
(There's never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")
Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?
I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek--
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.
I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!
I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean--
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.
Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home--
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a "homeland of the free."
The free?
Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay--
Except the dream that's almost dead today.
O, let America be America again--
The land that never has been yet--
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME--
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.
Sure, call me any ugly name you choose--
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!
O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath--
America will be!
Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain--
All, all the stretch of these great green states--
And make America again!
Posted by: Javalation | March 23, 2008 4:07 PM
Richardson said, "...he wanted something beyond 'Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton.' You know, what about the rest of us?'"
You mean the rest of us who hope to be named VP or Sec of State?
Posted by: WylieD | March 23, 2008 4:07 PM
My name is Judas Richardson and I resent the association of my name with this dialog.
Posted by: Judas Richardson | March 23, 2008 4:08 PM
It's too bad this campaign now boils down to race. Richardson himself said his endorsement is due to it. We should be talking about the economy, the environment, health care, and other issues. Obama lost my support in 2005 when he voted for Cheney's energy bill. He has a mediocre environmental record. Hillary is rock-solid not only the environment, but the economy and health care as well. We should be choosing our candidate based on their command of the issues, not on the color of their skin. I don't see Richardson's endorsement as a good thing at all. If race becomes the dominant issue in November, then the Democrats lose.
I see no evidence either of Obama the uniter. When the going gets tough he resorts to "gutter politics" just as much as anyone else. Accusing Bill Clinton of being like McCarthy is inflammatory. Releasing a photo of Bill Clinton shaking hands with Rev. Wright in the '90s is inflammatory too. Remember, there are lots of people who admire and support the Clintons, and we are the ones you need to unite if we are going to win in December.
Posted by: Howdy999 | March 23, 2008 4:09 PM
Opinions are like noses, everyone has one.
Posted by: a reader | March 23, 2008 4:10 PM
Hillary needs a hug.
Posted by: Healthy Healer | March 23, 2008 4:10 PM
Considering the vast racial inequity that has defined and in many ways built out country, some white people are so bent out of shape by that "typical white person" remark. For the entirety of US history, minorities have shouldered the pain of racism in some form or another to the extent that many privileged white americans are up in arms at a hint of bias towards them. Because a politician is courageous enough to address ensnaring issues, like race, some so-called Democrats are demanding apologies and vowing to vote across party lines when Obama wins the nomination. How ridiculous.... Have the silver spoons migrated from your mouths to between your ears?
-SWM
Posted by: tK | March 23, 2008 4:10 PM
Typical clinton politics.gutter and immoral,same thing that would be if elected to whitehouse,gutter and immoral as usual,the us is damned if it continues with abortions,same sex marriges and all the other immoral politics that the clintons support,so the good rev was not cussing the usa but telling what the word says about it,but the liberals dont want to hear the truth,hipocrosy in action!
Posted by: tmld2008 | March 23, 2008 4:11 PM
If you want to know and listen reality then listen original 9/11 sermon by Rev Wright...not the one which was prefabricated and was widely played last week by CNN, MSNBC and others.Listen carefully to hear the truth.
Posted by: JR | March 23, 2008 4:12 PM
Bill Richardson will only be a casualty in Obama's disaster of a campaign in a general election against McCain. He's no more Hispanic than Bill Clinton so don't look for him to bring Hispanics into the Obama camp.
Posted by: Bill Who? | March 23, 2008 4:12 PM
Of course the Clintonistas would call Richardson a Judas. They know all about it, they are decendents. They also go to prison, are prosecuted and all sorts of things while the Clintons sit around and say "oh I didn't know about that" after instigating it with their Judas.
Posted by: MissClarity | March 23, 2008 4:12 PM
As we saw in the early debates Bill Richardson isn't the sharpest democrat to run for president. When he was still in the race Hillary was doing better with latino voters in most states than he was. In primaries after he dropped out, Hillary was preferred by Latinos twice as much as Obama. Obviously Richardson does not care about what other Latinos think. He is more interested in his own potential career. Obama can have him.
Posted by: Roy | March 23, 2008 4:12 PM
Barack is nicer.
Posted by: Omniscient One | March 23, 2008 4:12 PM
This is just another one-sided piece by the WP. Whatever happened to objectivity in the main stream media? No wonder conservatives go to FOX for their. You are giving support to what Richardson has to say but not Rendell. This belongs on the editorial page. Oh I forgot you have Robinson passing himself off as an objective journalist when it is plain as day he is an Obama supporter. What gives with the media where we cannot get an objective article and let us form our own opinion?
Posted by: James | March 23, 2008 4:13 PM
DO YOU REALLY WANT SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT?3/21/08
George Bush was on the news the other day and said he can not do anything in the short term about the price of oil? When I heard him say this I thought;
"You mean to tell me he can not make the speed limit 55 again?"
Think about this, please, really. You can't tell me the price of oil would not go down immediately.
Dick Chaney is in Saudi Arabia today asking the king to increase production because the price of gasoline is bring down our economy. Why is he there?
Why can't George Bush lower the speed limit which would increase the inventories of oil on the world market creating a glut of oil? This is something he could have done all along but has not. Why? Why does he keep putting the responsibility on everyone else to fix this situation? He can fix it. What is waiting for? This would stimulate the economy. I did not like driving 55 either, but I need to be able to live and pay my bills so driving 55 does not seem so bad.
George Bush needs to called out on this immediately and I mean right now. He could do this with a signature. Leader of the free world? He should be impeached for this.
Ken Mitchell
Posted by: Ken Mitchell | March 23, 2008 4:13 PM
The article says: "I'm not going to get in the gutter like that," Richardson responded on "Fox News Sunday." "And you know, that's typical of many of the people around Senator Clinton. They think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency."
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I have always been puzzled about Richardson. During his campaign, he always pounced on any other candidate who said anything at all about another candidate.
Now, Richardson has endorsed Obama, saying that the Clinton's think they are "entitled" to the presidency.
Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black, so to speak, when Obama's supporters act like Obama is entitled to the presidency. We already have threats from his people that there will be a riot if Obama doesn't get the nomination at the convention.
Too bad - I don't think Hillary is entitled, but she is a far more electable person than Obama.
And, with all the statistics floating around why Hillary should get out of the race, what about Hillary has more electoral college votes than Obama. Hillary beats McCain in every big state. Obama doesn't. gw.
Posted by: Grace | March 23, 2008 4:14 PM
Good God, the lower class punks here
(and a huge majority are written by the same five or six people, (svreader's "I am jew", I love israel, you are stupid) group
are getting uglier and uglier. NO use reading any posts at wapo anymore. Until some reasonable editor appears. Most good writers are already gone. Waste.
Posted by: Randall | March 23, 2008 4:14 PM
Reverend Wright for President.
Posted by: Tired of The American Double Standard | March 23, 2008 4:14 PM
Good God, the lower class punks here
(and a huge majority are written by the same five or six people, (svreader's "I am jew", I love israel, you are stupid) group
are getting uglier and uglier. NO use reading any posts at wapo anymore. Until some reasonable editor appears. Most good writers are already gone. Waste.
Posted by: Randall | March 23, 2008 4:14 PM
Richardson didn't endorse Obama because of his race speech. A month ago he was asking Hillary to step down for the good of the party, for unity. And now Richardson puts his big fat foot into the divide as it gets wider and wider. What a turncoat. Karma will take care of that rat. Yes. He will get his due.
Posted by: Benedict Arnold | March 23, 2008 4:14 PM
.Richardson is right on target. From the beginning, the Clinton campaign them has been taken from "Simba's Song" in the Disney Lion King movie - "Ijust can't wait to be King...." (er..Queen?). let's get real - all of this is about Bill's cleverly masked effort to get an Un-Constitutional third term in the White House
Posted by: Lou the lion-tamer | March 23, 2008 4:17 PM
May be Rendall forgot that in the big state of Texas, 100,000 republicans crossed over and voted for Hillary because they know McCain can beat Hillary and will lose against Obama.
And one more thing Rendall, some of my colleagues who voted for McCain are thinging about voting for Obama in the general election if Obama is the Dem's nominee. What do you think about that?
Just because Richardson was a member of Clinton cabinet, doesn't mean Richardson is a slave of Clinton for the rest of his life. Get it? Richardson is not a slave of Clinton family. Slavery ended long time ago. Richardson can support anyone he choose to support.
Posted by: David | March 23, 2008 4:18 PM
By the time the Dems convention rolls around the two candidates will have dstroyed each other. The time is ripe to throw both of them out and nominate Mickey Mouse.
Posted by: Bill Evans | March 23, 2008 4:18 PM
It ain't over till the fat hairy Mexican guy sings!
Posted by: How do you like me now? | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Politics is a game that you quit only after a knockout. Bill Clinton is back and is destroying what he sowed in the 90's and I strongly see a knockout in the near future. If there are visionaries in the democratic party, Governor Richardson is one of them. There is no way the clintonian political politics of the 90s can work in 2008, that's history and Hillary is history.
Posted by: Clintonian Political Politics | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Bill Richardson for Energy Secretary!
Posted by: Bill Richardson | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Wait up, fellas. What candidate with a rational mind would consider throwing in the towel after racking up the kind of numbers that Hillary has? And that's only the registered Democrats who voted in primaries. There are a couple od million people who haven't voted in an election yet. Only one person is going to win the nomination; we need to think about this country and agree that whoever gets the popular vote should be the nominee. Let's not let the Supreme Court make decisions for us and let's not think about dire consequences. Obama is just another man and that's all we've had in the country since it was founded. WE NEED A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO SHOW US HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. Enough of Bush and his cronies who want to send this country down the tubes!
Posted by: phyllis | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Wait up, fellas. What candidate with a rational mind would consider throwing in the towel after racking up the kind of numbers that Hillary has? And that's only the registered Democrats who voted in primaries. There are a couple od million people who haven't voted in an election yet. Only one person is going to win the nomination; we need to think about this country and agree that whoever gets the popular vote should be the nominee. Let's not let the Supreme Court make decisions for us and let's not think about dire consequences. Obama is just another man and that's all we've had in the country since it was founded. WE NEED A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO SHOW US HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. Enough of Bush and his cronies who want to send this country down the tubes!
Posted by: phyllis | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Wait up, fellas. What candidate with a rational mind would consider throwing in the towel after racking up the kind of numbers that Hillary has? And that's only the registered Democrats who voted in primaries. There are a couple od million people who haven't voted in an election yet. Only one person is going to win the nomination; we need to think about this country and agree that whoever gets the popular vote should be the nominee. Let's not let the Supreme Court make decisions for us and let's not think about dire consequences. Obama is just another man and that's all we've had in the country since it was founded. WE NEED A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO SHOW US HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. Enough of Bush and his cronies who want to send this country down the tubes!
Posted by: phyllis | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Obama is a sick joke...
Posted by: Quentin | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Wait up, fellas. What candidate with a rational mind would consider throwing in the towel after racking up the kind of numbers that Hillary has? And that's only the registered Democrats who voted in primaries. There are a couple od million people who haven't voted in an election yet. Only one person is going to win the nomination; we need to think about this country and agree that whoever gets the popular vote should be the nominee. Let's not let the Supreme Court make decisions for us and let's not think about dire consequences. Obama is just another man and that's all we've had in the country since it was founded. WE NEED A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO SHOW US HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE. Enough of Bush and his cronies who want to send this country down the tubes!
Posted by: phyllis | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Randall,
Actually, most of my posts are about Obama's Slums.
Why do Obama's supporters keep trying to drive other posters off these boards?
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 4:19 PM
Obama should call out Bush on this. Spread the word.
3/21/08
George Bush was on the news the other day and said he can not do anything in the short term about the price of oil? When I heard him say this I thought;
"You mean to tell me he can not make the speed limit 55 again?"
Think about this, please, really. You can't tell me the price of oil would not go down immediately.
Dick Chaney is in Saudi Arabia today asking the king to increase production because the price of gasoline is bring down our economy. Why is he there?
Why can't George Bush lower the speed limit which would increase the inventories of oil on the world market creating a glut of oil? This is something he could have done all along but has not. Why? Why does he keep putting the responsibility on everyone else to fix this situation? He can fix it. What is waiting for? This would stimulate the economy. I did not like driving 55 either, but I need to be able to live and pay my bills so driving 55 does not seem so bad.
George Bush needs to called out on this immediately and I mean right now. He could do this with a signature. Leader of the free world? He should be impeached for this.
Ken Mitchell
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 4:21 PM
If Hillary is not on the ticket with him, I am voting for McCain. As simple as that...
Posted by: Quentin | March 23, 2008 4:21 PM
If there's only crapola around you, then it must be coming from the top...that's what Richardson was trying to say without really saying it. Then there's the candidate with the #1 ultra liberal rating and joined to the hip of his hate mongering, anti American racist "spiritual adviser".
Both with no experience and incompetent.
Posted by: Mike | March 23, 2008 4:21 PM
OBAMA/RICHARDSON
AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION 18%
HISPANIC AMERICAN POPULATION 33 %
the reality is that the Hispanic voter block will overwhelmingly vote for the chance to have the first Hispanic Vice President.
so what does that mean? It means that OBAMA/RICHARDSON ticket would only need 10% of the white vote to have a blowout in November, Richardson knows that.
Posted by: Yo Ma-Ma | March 23, 2008 4:21 PM
Not everyone has a beautiful interior and exterior like you, How Do You Like Me Now.
Posted by: Fat Hairy Mexican for Positive Politics | March 23, 2008 4:22 PM
I thought GUTTER POLITICS was Obamas campaign theme.
It certainly wasn't the unity he used to talk about monday thru friday....while he sneaked off on the weekends to attend a church that promoted division, hatred and racism against white americans, america, jews and the victims of 911.
GUTTER POLITICS = Obama
After all haven't we seen Obama get on stage and have two of his endorsers trash the Clintons and this nation...This was done on his behalf and probably his request. Obama knew exactly what these people were going to say before they got on stage.
But then again for the last 20 years he has been listening to hatred and racism and anti-american garbage...so he must feel comfortable with his Gutter Politics.
Americans are not going to give the Presidency to this guy....we LOVE AMERICA too much to trash it.
Posted by: ann | March 23, 2008 4:23 PM
I wish I could be an American and in America just now. I then will let the lady go to her home and practice jogging with her husband in the rest of their life so as to care their health since both husband and wife are just running out of time. It is time to care his and herself not others, Americans. I think that "a leader in life time", a black guy took the posi and t is over now, Hillary-Bill.
Posted by: From Abroad and non American | March 23, 2008 4:23 PM
"They [the Clintons] think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency."
My sentiments EXACTLY!
Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | March 23, 2008 4:24 PM
Phyllis, you hit the button once, ok?
Posted by: Button Pushers for Multiple Messages | March 23, 2008 4:24 PM
There are a lot of Hillary people here today showing an incredible amount of bitterness over an endorsement which they claim to be wortheless. Usual contradiction from the Clinton camp? Exactly.
Posted by: Obamaforpresident | March 23, 2008 4:25 PM
Hey folks, just an idea for you.
It doesn't matter which party you belong to, it doesn't matter who the anointed candidate is.
Vote for the person you believe to be the best candidate for President (as a write-in if you must). Tell the parties that you want change by doing that and you will definitely create change. Btw, the same strategy should be used for all voting. When has "either Party" really done a dang thing for you?
Make the days where someone else defines your voting choices a thing of the past. We will all be better for it.
Posted by: MurrayH | March 23, 2008 4:25 PM
i think that Mrs. Clinton's co-sponsorship of that anti-flag-burning piece was quite remarkable; she is indeed a splendid senatrix.
Posted by: ape dersen | March 23, 2008 4:25 PM
I just read where Clinton asked McCain if he wants to be her vice president.........
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 4:25 PM
Correction:
Not posi but position.
thanks
Posted by: From Abroad and non American | March 23, 2008 4:25 PM
Bill Clinton came into office as a new comer to national politics. A wonderful fresh breath of hope for a new age of how our national government would be run. But but the magnetic pull of power could not keep him and Hilary from becoming just like the status quo we hoped they would replace. They did not have the internal fortitude to stand up to the big boys and risk losing their power- and Washington power is a money tree. There is now very little to distinguish the Clinton's from the Republicans and their power base. That is a shame because they could have made a big difference. Power blinds and Clinton is blind to the fact that she has for all practical purposes lost. She should step aside; use her clout to unite the Democratic party; and give us hopeless romantics a chance to help elect another person we feel can change our messed up national government.
Posted by: steven | March 23, 2008 4:26 PM
If you look at the timing, Richardson waited until it looked like MI, FL wouldn't be able to revote. He's going with what looks like the inevitable winner. It's all politically ambitious calculation on his part. That's why his statements are so inconsistent and internally conflicting.
This is actually a funny story. When it looked like Clinton was the inevitable winner, he almost came out for Clinton. Then he hesitated and waited, planning to come out for Obama on the day after TX and OH primaries. But when Clinton won TX and OH, he pulled back. Then he came out for Obama the day after the MI, FL revote efforts fell apart and that politico.com article declared that there was no way to win.
He's ambitious and angling for himself to line up with the winner. There's little conscience or rationale in his thought process.
The funny part is that there is a very real possibility that Clinton might win. Obama's been dropping in the polls like a rock since that Rev. Wright info went mainstream.
Posted by: Annette | March 23, 2008 4:27 PM
Sen. Barack Obama, is the most stronger candidate than sen. Hillary, The democrats should nominate him if they want to win in November 2008, because people are tired of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton-there is NO change in that matter, the change she speaks( sen. Hillary) is too theoretical she won't implement it, will still be Bill clinton's style of which we are tired, we want something new, fresh and exciting that's Sen. Barack Obama qualification.
Posted by: xavery mahecha | March 23, 2008 4:27 PM
Re: Kool Aid - Remember that was the drink that Jim Jones had his devoted followers drink laced with cyanide. How did Obama pick that drink to become associated with?
As for the Clintons, anything they do is considered divisive by the Obama camp and simple campaigning is considered divisive. What the Obama camp really wants is for the Clintons to heel and obey their god, Obama. Nothing less would satsfy them.
Posted by: Lynn E | March 23, 2008 4:28 PM
The sexism in anti-Hillary posts is disgusting.
Sexism, racism, and AGEISM, are all morally indefensible.
Obama supporters threw Bill Clinton "under the bus"
Mainstream Democrats will neither forgive or forget that.
If Obama's the candidate, the Democratic Party will lose its mainstream supporters.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 4:28 PM
Thanks, Bill Richardson. SOMEBODY had the guts to call the Clinton campaign for what it is.............. good ole trailer park trash.
Posted by: FL Cracker | March 23, 2008 4:28 PM
Yo-MA MA
You are WRONG...Latinos will not simply vote for Obama because of Richardson.
Unlike the black community we don't vote based on race.
Latinos vote based on what is best for America.....and Obama is not it.
Posted by: ann | March 23, 2008 4:28 PM
Ann, you wrote:
"Rendell is RIGHT ON. Obama can't have it both ways.
Can't criticize Clinton for negative campaigning and then do it himself.(eg the 'Mccarthy' BS).
Can't cry foul on race and then use phrases like 'typical white person' or affiliate with racists.
Can't say superdelegates should vote with their constituents and then accept those who are NOT voting with their constituents.
This is not 'new' politics. What a sham.
You are right, its not new politics, its old. Older than the Clintons. And its not a game; its called winning politics. When attacked, attack back..
When your experience is ridiculed, put her experience (and judgment) on trial.
When your character is questioned, rebut the charge with facts (Rezko -- when is the last time we saw his name mentioned?) and then point out the opponent's own character issues (lying about NAFTA support and the Bosnia trip).
When your patriotism is subtly questioned, call them on it, make their charge plain, and make them defend the suggestion. [Note that the Clintons haven't yet said they don't doubt Obama's patriotism, not even "as far as they know."]
When the race card is played by one of your opponent's supporters, assert how noxious the charge is.
When you are on the ropes because of your ties to a controversial, even toxic person, denounce what you can/must and elevate the discussion.
When you are ahead in delegates, pop vote and states won, and the other side offers you the VP slot. make them ridulous for their arrogance.
When your opponent suggests you are unelectable, point out that 45% of the country says they non't trust and will never vote for her, reminding the DNC of how weak the Clinton coattails have been historically.
When she wants to point to your pastor, remind the nation that her husband's embarrassing indiscretions required him to call on your pastor as part of his public redemption tour.
When your opponent can only win if you collapse, and is hoping the latest scandal is a knockout blow, deliver a great speech that reminds the nation why they like you, and follow that up by gaining the public endorsement support of an influential superdelegate who twice worked in your husband's administration.
Again, that may not be "new" politics, but it seems to be winning. All without tarnishing his image as a uniter.
The bottom line: Hillaru cannot hide from her past. Its good politics for Barack's campaign to remind us what that past contains, warts and all. Part of the "vetting" process she always talks about.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:28 PM
Hillary is not scum!
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians | March 23, 2008 4:29 PM
Think Richardson - Energy Dept. - Leaks,Scandals - Quietly drummed out of Clinton Admin.
Posted by: RetCombatVet | March 23, 2008 4:29 PM
Is it just me, or does HRC without her botox make anyone else want to puke?
Posted by: joes | March 23, 2008 4:29 PM
I learned something today from my Google Alerts from RezkoWatch.
I am working on a time-line for Obama, and here are some snippets of what I learned today:
March 16, 2004. Barack Obama won the Illinois Democratic primary for the U. S. Senate.
April 3, 2004 - Antoin Rezko held a dinner reception at Chicago's Four Seasons hotel for Iraqi - British billionaire, businessman, Nadhim Auchi. Also on the guest list was Illinois Governor Rod Alagojevich, Emil Jones, the President of the State Senate * and reportedly Barack Obama.
(Emil Jones is nicknamed "the kingmaker" and he yanked high profile bills from other lawmakers to put Obama's name on them to enhance Obama's political resume.) Obama wasn't even around when some votes were taken - he was vacationing in Hawaii.
April 8, 2004 - Then presidential candidate, Senator John Kerry (D-Mass) flew into hicago's O'Hare Airport, where he was met by Chicago area veterans.
There was a fundraiser at Chicago's Hyatt Regency.
April 12, 2004 - FEC reports for John Kerry for President, Inc., include a $2,000 campaign contribution reported from one Antoin Rezko of Wilmette, Illinois.
2004 - Rezko served on Obama's campaign finance committee.
2004 - At the DNC in Boston, Kerry invited Obama to deliver his convention speech.
Jan. 2008 - Kerry, in South Carolina, endorsed Obama in his run for the presidency.
Obama attended Punahou High School in Hawaii. Obama attended the private college in L.A., Occidental College.
Obama graduated from Columbia University, a private university in NYC.
Obama received a law degree from Harvard University, a private university -
Columbia and Harvard are considered Ivy League Schools.
Obama grew up with an elitist background. One comment on the blog I read said, "Why does Obama say he was 'oppressed and repressed?'"
In 2007, Obama went to Kenya to give support to his cousin Odinga (sp?), who was running for office. I saw a video of Odinga saying the same things Obama says here - "Change" "Unite" Etc.
But, Odinga signed a pact with some organization that burned down Christian Churches and macheted people in the streets.
I am not sure the "Change" Odinga and Obama want for our countries is the change we seek.
Obama has a dual citizenship in Kenya and the U.S. gw.
Posted by: Grace | March 23, 2008 4:29 PM
I'm glad Obama is fighting back. He said he was going to after HRC turned this election into a circus, now that HRC is getting hit the same way she was hitting Obama all her supporters wanna cry foul. Boo Hoo, Go get her Obama!
Posted by: Creamsykle | March 23, 2008 4:30 PM
Way to go Mr Richardson!
i thank you for endorsing barak obama for 2 reasons;
1) barak obama will certainly benefit from your endorsement
and
2) it p*ssed off hillary and billary!
LOL
there is nothing i like more in the world than to see hillary p*ssed off... she is probably kicking her dog right about now... so nobody should be surprised if we see her on the campaign trail on monday with a cast on her foot...
reporter; ms clinton.. what happened to your foot? where you kicking the dog because gov richardson was a judas? LOL
hillary; screw you mister reporter! i happen to be taking a ballet class because i am so graceful and petite.. i slipped and fell practicing my swan lake..
reporter; sure hillary, billary and doc! pull the middle one! it squirts!
slick willy; my good man. you will not get far with talk like that. only hillary and i can talk like that. we invented gutter language and sleazy politics. it is our way of life. if we want something, and somebody gets in our way, we will destroy them politically. why do you think we brought race into this debate? why do you think we released the photos from kenya? why do you think we were trying to get passport information? we are lawyers. everyone hates us. so, we hate them. and once we are in the white house, forget every promise we made, because we won't be there for you. we will be there for ourselves. we like power. no, i take that back. we CRAVE power. and when we have air force 1, we will fly back and forth across your city throwing our macdonalds trash out the window and all over your lawn. you see... we don't care about the little people. we really don't. now if you will excuse us, we have to go plan more fictitious and sleazy accusations against our competition. good day.
Posted by: presGWBfanclub | March 23, 2008 4:31 PM
"Richardson needs to shut his fat, hairy, doublechinned mouth."
"Richardson is a fat, ugly traitor"
"Richardson is a obese slimy phony bum!"
Once again I am impressed by the highly intellectual level of debate that the "average" American is able to engage in. Further proof of our failed education system in that people cannot gather a few simple facts and do a bit of independent thinking. Simply follow the garbage that someone else throws out there and then take it a level lower. Instead we take the fool's path and blindly spew insults and hate at the other side.
Mr. Richardson is a brilliant man who has done a great deal for this country (far more than most of you out there combined). He is due some respect. Many bemoan the fact that campaigns always go negative. Unfortunately, as you can see by the majority of responses to this article it works. We are too willing to jump in and insult the other side versus engaging in well thought out arguments. And the real loser in all of this is us, the American people.
No matter which side you support, I would encourage you to think before you speak. There is truth to Lincoln's statement, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." We are a nation divided by self interests, it's time we started working on correcting that.
Posted by: Tyler | March 23, 2008 4:31 PM
I'm a Hillary supporter, but Carville has no right to call Bill Richardson a "traitor" for endorsing Obama.
The Clintons do not own Richardson or anybody else. Richardson is a Governor and a superdelegate who has successfully negotiated the release of American hostages from places like Iraq. He has been nominated for the Nobel Peace prize five times. Like all of the other superdelegates, Richardson has the right to endorse anybody he wants.
Who is Carville to call a great American like Richardson a traitor? Nobody, that's who.
Posted by: Susan | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Also think Richardson. Isn't he the guy that stole some papers out of the Law Library or some other organization that was illegal? He almost got in criminal trouble for it - I don't remember how he talked his way out of that one. He said he accidently took them out in his briefcase or something. gw.
Posted by: Grace | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
I think it was an act of tremendous courage by Gov. Richardson. It's that sense of entitlement that has brought us to Clinton, Bush over and over again. We've had enough. I only hope the rest of those on the fence take a stance one way or the other and move forward to the nomination. We're being seen as laughing stock by the Republicans. Hillary is willing to burn the village at any cost, which is sad and painful to watch.
Posted by: breh/California | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Hillary does well what Monica does..she sucks
Posted by: NoVote | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Think about your vote before you commit yourself for the next several months to a pretty serious alternative. McCain is Bush #3 - haven't we had enough of government that is not "of the people, for the people and by the people" but only for themselves and their friends? Eight long years of idiocy, incompentacy, illegalities as far as you can see, etc., etc. Bush was voted in by the Court, let's not let that happen again.
Posted by: phyllis | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
I think it was an act of tremendous courage by Gov. Richardson. It's that sense of entitlement that has brought us to Clinton, Bush over and over again. We've had enough. I only hope the rest of those on the fence take a stance one way or the other and move forward to the nomination. We're being seen as laughing stock by the Republicans. Hillary is willing to burn the village at any cost, which is sad and painful to watch.
Posted by: breh/California | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
I don't think Rendell really wants to push the argument he's advancing.
Kerry and Kennedy go ahead back Clinton. Ickes and every other super-delegate pol who lives in an state, county/precinct, or region that broke for Obama -- support Obama.
If we do that the nomination process is effectively over. Obama stands to gain a lot more support from that formulation than Clinton.
Remind me again -- who is being hypocritical here?
Rendell can't say on the one hand that superdelegates must vote the way that their constituents have, and on the other hand say that the contest should continue (and that he has problems with Kerry/Kennedy support of Obama). Especially with the high number of superdelegates in Washington, DC, Maryland, and Virginia -- if we were to take Rendell's line of thinking and the actual outcome of the voting -- there would be no need to have any more contested primaries.
Rendell's candidate benefits from the fact that super-delegates like Kerry and Kennedy are free to vote based on their own reasoning.
So why exactly is Rendell complaining? At this stage the super-delegate rules are the only thing that give his candidate grounds for staying in the contest.
Maybe Rendell is right though -- his candidate should get the support of Kerry and Kennedy; while Ickes et al back Obama and we call this a done deal. Off to the convention we go with Obama as the party nominee having won the popular vote, the pledged delegate count AND the super-delegate support. Credit Rendell with coming up with a solution that breaks the current intraparty log-jam and Senator Clinton returns to her distinguished role as a Senator from New York. Great work Ed!
Posted by: JP2 | March 23, 2008 4:32 PM
Its infantile for Obama supporters to claim that he's the only candidate that will bring "change"
Hillary will bring positive change that will benefit all Americans.
If Obama brings the same "change" he did to the slums in his district in Chicago, God help us all.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 4:33 PM
OBAMA/RICHARDSON que asco estos dos
the racist pastor and judas !!
Mcain or hillary 08!
Posted by: mejicano | March 23, 2008 4:33 PM
Who cares who's president. We've already given the country to the Chinese.
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Oppression in Tibet | March 23, 2008 4:35 PM
Bush wasn't in office long enough(9 months) to have initiated the kind of policies that would generate the malice that it took to carry out 9/11.We all know who proceeded him for 8 years.
Posted by: hamaser | March 23, 2008 4:35 PM
As much as Obama supporters wish that Senator Clinton would step down....
The rest of Americans want her to stay in there and fight for our country. We need her and will support her as long as it takes....all the way to the convention.
Because we all know Obama is not going to win the general election. He has done more to DIVIDE this country than anyone in recent history. He has shown extremely poor judgment and America would only suffer at his hands. I would vote Republican before I hand off this great country to a man who has shown to be the liar and manipulator who doesn't even respect his own grandmother....how could he defend Wright and keep trashing her?
Posted by: jerome | March 23, 2008 4:36 PM
i'm tired of this Clinton Vs Obama foolery ..this is just all a big distraction of the truth of what's going to happen to America in the future..it doesn't matter if a black man or a old white woman won the democratic nomination, there is a system to this American Establishment, it's not up to us to vote ..cause once we do vote there's something else between the lines saying we have to wait to hear from Delegates or Super Delegates or some other sort of source to award the proper candidate..
America is definitely going through a transition phase and the Clintons had their run, and to be Honest their True Colors have shown and will continue to show,Mccain will Win the Presidential Bid and we will be led into a police state
prepare for the new world order they are all apart of the grand scheme..some will come out worst than the others but the plan is in affect -
Posted by: disgruntled American | March 23, 2008 4:36 PM
Forget clinton and Obama and read this!
Makes you think doesn't it!
3/21/08
George Bush was on the news the other day and said he can not do anything in the short term about the price of oil? When I heard him say this I thought;
"You mean to tell me he can not make the speed limit 55 again?"
Think about this, please, really. You can't tell me the price of oil would not go down immediately.
Dick Chaney is in Saudi Arabia today asking the king to increase production because the price of gasoline is bring down our economy. Why is he there?
Why can't George Bush lower the speed limit which would increase the inventories of oil on the world market creating a glut of oil? This is something he could have done all along but has not. Why? Why does he keep putting the responsibility on everyone else to fix this situation? He can fix it. What is waiting for? This would stimulate the economy. I did not like driving 55 either, but I need to be able to live and pay my bills so driving 55 does not seem so bad.
George Bush needs to called out on this immediately and I mean right now. He could do this with a signature. Leader of the free world? He should be impeached for this.
Ken Mitchell
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 4:36 PM
Just reading these responses ought to worry any Democratic strategist -- everyone writing here knows who they support and they aren't supporting them -- they are critizing the other candidate....what does that say once a candidate is chosen? As for Richardson -- instead of saying he loves listening to himself, maybe folks ought to consider why someone who was thought to be a Hilary running mate possibility would go the other way. Hispanics don't like blacks and blacks don't like Hispanics -- (I love working stereotypes) so what's Richardson's motive? Really and truly --- WHAT does another Clinton administration bring to the table? I don't think "coming together" is possible anymore -- so where is Al Gore taking Obama as his running mate and Hilary goes to Majority Leader?
Posted by: PA Indep | March 23, 2008 4:37 PM
Although, she has no chance of winning. Hillary is willing to burn down the village she (had someone else write) of. As for Carville, the act of he and his wife has gotten old and tired. There's a new wind of change in the air and people like the Carville's and Clinton's are finding it somewhat difficult to adjust.
On to the nomination.
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:37 PM
Although, she has no chance of winning. Hillary is willing to burn down the village she (had someone else write) of. As for Carville, the act of he and his wife has gotten old and tired. There's a new wind of change in the air and people like the Carville's and Clinton's are finding it somewhat difficult to adjust.
On to the nomination.
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: breh/California | March 23, 2008 4:37 PM
He is looking after himself. Clinton does not need him as she does well with Hispanics. He won't be on her ticket or in her cabinet.
On the other hand Obama needs the hispanic vote.
Therefore politics as usual.
Posted by: kathy | March 23, 2008 4:38 PM
The google trends posted at the top by davidmwe compare Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama. Who would search for "Barack Obama" when "obama" would do the trick? If you compare "Barack Obama, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Clinton" you'll see the real trends. For what they're worth.
Posted by: whitehatgirl | March 23, 2008 4:38 PM
Obama can't win the general, too many Clinton suporters will either stay in home or will go to Mc Cain, the Democratic party is to divided now by race,gender and age,you olly have to see how much animosity is in either side of the comments,Obama will not be able to lure Clinton suporters to his side in enough numbers to win the election,but I must say that if Clinton is the nomine the same is true for her,blacks will not vote for her,and without them she will not win,Obama will have to wait 4 more years and HRC will still be senator Clinton instead of madam president.
Posted by: victor | March 23, 2008 4:38 PM
Obama can't win the general, too many Clinton suporters will either stay in home or will go to Mc Cain, the Democratic party is to divided now by race,gender and age,you olly have to see how much animosity is in either side of the comments,Obama will not be able to lure Clinton suporters to his side in enough numbers to win the election,but I must say that if Clinton is the nomine the same is true for her,blacks will not vote for her,and without them she will not win,Obama will have to wait 4 more years and HRC will still be senator Clinton instead of madam president.
Posted by: victor | March 23, 2008 4:38 PM
The kind of malice that generated 911 was likely formulated down a long hallway that the CIA.
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for Change | March 23, 2008 4:39 PM
SHAME ON THOSE TEARING UP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AREN'T WE TIRED OF BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH ALREADY? ARE AMERICANS SO DUMB TO GO MONARCHY? ISN'T 8 YEARS OF CLINTON ENOUGH FOR AMERICA? ARE IN DICTATORSHIP HERE? WHY DO THE CLINTONS THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THIS PRESIDENCY FOR LIFE. SAHEM ON GOV RENDELL. I'M A REPUBLICAN AND WE JUST CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT THE GREEDY DEMOCRATS. IF YOU'RE TIRED OF BEING MARGINALIZED, PLEASE COME OVER TO THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE WHERE MINORITIES ROSE BEYOND BACKEND SECRETARIES POSITIONS THAT THE DEMOCRATS CAN AFFORD. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS OPEN TO ALL, UNLIKE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. LIKE BUSH SAID THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TAKES MINORITIES VOTES FOR GRANTED, HENCE THE PUSH THEM UNDER THE TABLE TO EAT CRUMBS.
Posted by: john scott | March 23, 2008 4:39 PM
One cable news cast said today that there are 60,000,000 people who haven't voted yet.
Let's wait to hear from them before we crown Obama King of America, to do with us as he pleases. gw.
Posted by: Grace | March 23, 2008 4:40 PM
The kind of malice that generated 911 was likely formulated down a long hallway at the CIA.
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for Change | March 23, 2008 4:40 PM
let's see... since Feb 4,.. 62 superdelegates go to Obama. Clinton? lost 5, gained 2?
Obama '08.
Posted by: Dahveed | March 23, 2008 4:40 PM
I'M SO OVER THE CLINTONS...RICHARDSON IS RIGHT: THE FUTURE BELONGS TO OBAMA AND THE NEW GENERATION OF DEMOCRATS WHO SUPPORT HIM. WHEN A WOMAN IN HIS OWN RIGHT WILL SEEK THE U.S. PRESIDENCY, IT WILL BE A WONDERFUL MOMENT. IT IS NOT HAPPENING NOW.
FOR THE GOOD OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HILLARY AND BILL SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY CANNOT CONTINUE WITH THE "DIVIDE ET IMPERA" APPROACH AND MOVE ON INSTEAD OF CONTINUING THE BLEEDING. OBAMA IS THE CLEAR CHOSEN FOR THE NOMINATION. A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR ALL AMERICAN IS AHEAD...SO WHY NOT TO GET PASSED THIS SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT THAT THE CLINTONS HAVE? THE COUNTRY WILL REMEMBER THEM FONDLY INSTEAD OF AS SELF SERVING PEOPLE.
Posted by: Lucia | March 23, 2008 4:41 PM
Lobbyists and PACs pretty much own Clinton, but Obama won't take money from either of them.
Obama wants to talk to our enemies to try to make peace, while Hilary says that he can't do that. Yes he can, and yes he will.
Hilary has really turned me off in this campaign. I used to like her - but no more.
She won't change anything significant.
Three Cheers for Governor Richardson!
Support Barack Obama - if you want a better nation, that will wage peace - instead of war, and a government that will work for the people, rather than for the PACs!
Posted by: John ONeill | March 23, 2008 4:42 PM
If Hillary becomes the nominee, the election becomes a referendum on Bill Clinton vs. George Bush's Presidency.
That's a Guarenteed win for Democrats.
Bill Clinton turned a Republican deficit into a Democratic Surplus.
Everybody did well when Bill was President.
People remember those days very fondly.
Hillary will win by a landslide.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 4:42 PM
The comments that point out that the infighting within the Democratic party may hand McCain the election are right.
Being neither Democrat nor Republican, I do not agree that Hillbillary or Obama are the right person for president at this time.
And McCain scares the bleep out of me with that '100 more years of war' talk.
So far this "historic" presidential election has proven to be historically disheartening.
Posted by: Cranky_Old_Batt | March 23, 2008 4:42 PM
"Why is it that whenever the Obama campaign goes after Clinton, it is just criticism.
However, any remark from the Clinton campaign is viewed as "gutter" politics.
They threw up a picture of Wright & Bill Clinton together; Obama calls Hillary Clinton a liar; Bill Clinton is referred to as a Joe McCarthy; Hillary Clinton's character is "questioned"."
Because its not an attack when its true.
"picture of Wright & Bill Clinton together" - shows that Wright was not as fringe as people make him out to be.
"Obama calls Hillary Clinton a liar" - true:
Exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c
Let me know if your interested in B-Z.
"Bill Clinton is referred to as a Joe McCarthy" - maybe you're right here.
"Hillary Clinton's character is "questioned"." - Ask the women of Northern Ireland if Hillary organized them. Hillary was privately against NAFTA but cheerleaded for it.
All of Hillary's claims are false. Plus Rev. Wright is no worse than Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson and no one is claiming John McCain is a bigot.
Posted by: UncleRemus | March 23, 2008 4:43 PM
Happy Easter everybody!
Posted by: Barack Obama | March 23, 2008 4:43 PM
Hillary's campaign is like the hitchiker,who,as you pass them by, gives you the finger.
Posted by: borage | March 23, 2008 4:43 PM
i find it very easy to beleive that the Clinton campaign would lable anyone a traitor, or worse, who failed to support what she has come to believe is her right to sit in Oval Office as president. Reminds me of George W labeling anyone who disagreed to his war in Iraq, or the way he chose to fight it, Un-American.
Here I thought this was a nation with a constitutional right to agree or disagree with his or her elected officals. Isn't this how Stalin and Hitler first characterized their opposition?
Posted by: A Montgom | March 23, 2008 4:43 PM
Jerome writes: "I would vote Republican before I hand off this great country to a man who has shown to be the liar and manipulator " which is exactly my point and my concern. We don't consider candidatres anymore -- elections are like ebay auctions....we want to WIN (folks seem to forget that when you win on ebay, you have to BUY something and pay for it -- you won nothing but the right to pay the most money)Likewise with this election -- you cannot support your candidate up until they are not in it and then support the other side! Anyone who "hates" Obama has been drinking the Clinton koolaid. It's not that Obama should be the most qualified -- but how is someone that supports Hillary (and is presumable a democrat) helping by saying he'd rather vote Republican than Obama? Who wins then? McCain -- who was only the least offensive Republican candidate?
Posted by: PA Independend | March 23, 2008 4:44 PM
Our reality is changing at increasingly growing rate and each of us are free beings to choose what suites us and then love or fear (or somewhere in between) about all the rest what is happening inside each of us, as well as around us.
And so many opinions presented in this analytical article reflects how wonderful it is, to have such are wide circle of opinions about important issues that Senator Obama so eloquently presented to the people, to inspire each of us to ponder and choose better and more enlightened and loving ways to relate between all races and all people.
Some of us already learned that all, which brings unpleasant emotions in us, are aspects in us, that we came to this life to learn about and then transcend them, and it only depends on our individual choices we make with our thoughts about what we see, hear, sense, feel, smell and taste.
And all that depends on our already attained individual, self level of consciousness of each of us, and how we react to the news and presentations from and about every candidate.
Those different arays of reactions are like flowers of different colors blooming from our selves.
To me and many others that I know, Senator's Obama message was very loving and crystal clear, and I know he spoke from his heart that was guiding his speech more and deeper that of any other candidate who is still are in the race.
Heart intelligence is much higher that of the mind, and mind is always very creative to find excuses to stay in old comforts and in old beliefs.
And so many are so accustomed to be guided by mind and therefore feel uneasy and even think that they are being compelled to find flaws in others, while not being aware that those reactions are only reflection on what's they are working to learn and transcend in themselves. It's very individual and always comes in time when a person ready to make those new choices.
But increasingly more and more people are reaching point of no return, where they love and respect each candidate unconditionally.
And I invite each of you, reading here to find more love and joy in your life, more respect and understanding that we all are equal and we all are worthy to love and be ourselves and let others to be equal and worthy of our love and respect.
While not to choose and leave hate, fear and other negativity in past, as that will only brings more of the same.
The old is disintegrating and new is birthing now.
Hope is always higher emotion than any negative emotion, especially fear or hate, blame or even boredom, and I invite each of you to choose hope - hope of new brighter future for all of us and our children. Future of peace, future of prosperity, future of freedom, future of love... and the more you choose to focus on it - the sooner it will manifest for all of us.
Of course you are free to doubt, to fear, to hate, to blame and experience more doubt, more fear, more hate and more blame in your lives as well. Is all is just a simple choice. So why not to make wiser choices now?
And growingly more and more of us do each day! Yes We Can !
And Yes - YOU CAN too! And only YOU CAN CHOOSE! Be wiser ! Be smarter !
Shine your light to this world !
Posted by: Crystal | March 23, 2008 4:44 PM
Bill Richardson's "endorsement" of Obama is but a few days old and he's already talking in the Obama cliches we've been hearing for months. That works nicely if you're planning to be the next Vice President of the U.S. But I'm disappointed. I thought Richardson had more imagination. His words are as tiresome as Obama's because they are Obama's. Richardson had the right to run for President as do all natural born American citizens, but in reality, he had no business being on stage with the original group way back in time to the first debate. He's a little chunky (very cute, too), but he's a lightweight.
Posted by: Mandelay | March 23, 2008 4:44 PM
Why can't we just agree that Rev. Wright is right: The reason there are poor people and people in prison is because white people are evil. Only by electing Obama can white guilt be partially erased and Mrs. Obama can be proud of America.
Posted by: Phineas Barnum | March 23, 2008 4:44 PM
Mr. Richardson is a no one - he was a no one before the Clintons helped his sorry butt and he is still a no one.
Mr. Richards, Daschel, Dodd, Kerry, Kennedy, Bradley - they are all using him as their token black candidate. They will run everything behind the scenes because Mr. Bama doesn't know a freaking thing. If John McCain doesn't clean his clock there will be four years and then back to the Publicans.
Mr. Obama has never done anything in government other than to sign on to other peoples legislation. Once again, a hand out from the boys club.
Those boys can't stand the thought of a strong woman telling them what to do. Wimps.
Mr. Richardson is a no one and they just put him out there to - once again - change the subject.
Mr. Obama is so babied we're going to have to install a nursery in the Senate.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:45 PM
Race should not divide America the way it is at this election. To move on, those guilty of the slave trade and racism should say sorry like the Australian Prime Minister did about the "Stolen Generation". If anybody feels a hunch about these twin evils of American History, they should reconcile with their history and give Obama a chance to unite Americans.
Posted by: Foncachobang | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
Richardson: "You know, what about the rest of us?" he asked. That's Richardson-speak for "What about me?" This guy has never opened his mouth without uttering some form of "Look how great I am. Elect me president"
I hope Richardson has his fising license because his endorsement of Obama is nothing but a VP fishing expedition.
Posted by: MoralProtagonist | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
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Also think Richardson. Isn't he the guy that stole some papers out of the Law Library or some other organization that was illegal? He almost got in criminal trouble for it - I don't remember how he talked his way out of that one. He said he accidently took them out in his briefcase or something. gw.
Posted by: Grace | March 23, 2008 04:32 PM
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that was sandy berger. he was clinton's national security adviser. he was stuffing documents from the national archive in his socks and pants. and i don't think it was to give himself a bulge. LOL
Posted by: presGWBfanclub | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
Race should not divide America the way it is at this election. To move on, those guilty of the slave trade and racism should say sorry like the Australian Prime Minister did about the "Stolen Generation". If anybody feels a hunch about these twin evils of American History, they should reconcile with their history and give Obama a chance to unite Americans.
Posted by: Foncachobang | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
I agree with 'Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians' comment that 'Hillary is not scum!' HILLARY IS AN OIL TANKER FILLED WITH SCUM. TURN HER AWAY BEFORE SHE SPILLS HER SCUM ON ALL OF US.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
I agree with 'Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians' comment that 'Hillary is not scum!' HILLARY IS AN OIL TANKER FILLED WITH SCUM. TURN HER AWAY BEFORE SHE SPILLS HER SCUM ON ALL OF US.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
I agree with 'Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians' comment that 'Hillary is not scum!' HILLARY IS AN OIL TANKER FILLED WITH SCUM. TURN HER AWAY BEFORE SHE SPILLS HER SCUM ON ALL OF US.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
I agree with 'Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians' comment that 'Hillary is not scum!' HILLARY IS AN OIL TANKER FILLED WITH SCUM. TURN HER AWAY BEFORE SHE SPILLS HER SCUM ON ALL OF US.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 4:46 PM
Richardson is the Dog that bit the hand that fed him. As he now begs for scraps from the Obama table, why would Obama ever trust a Judas as Richardson has revealed himself to be. When Hillary wins her campaign and receives the 2008 Democratic nomination, the name of Obama and Richardson will join the ranks of Rev. Wright, Ron Paul, and Ralph Nader... just a 15 second blip in the Political radar. Does anyone in their right mind believe that an African American with a "hate whitey" agenda will ever be ALLOWED to be elected as President of the United States?
Posted by: vote Hillary 08 | March 23, 2008 4:47 PM
Grace: Richardson did not steal any papers. That was Sandy Berger. You should do some research so that you don't spew lies about Governor Richardson.
Posted by: Karen | March 23, 2008 4:48 PM
Well, let's step back from the histrionics and look at what Carville actually said. Doesn't anyone think that comparing Richardson to Judas is a bit ludicrous? And who exactly would that makes Hilary in that analogy, Christ? Please. Carville becomes more of a caricature of himself every day.
Richardson should probably not have even dignified such a remark, but I agree wholeheartedly with his response. This whole "turncoat" business is silly and overly dramatic (which is, of course, what cable news loves, and thus it's probably why Carville said it).
Posted by: logan | March 23, 2008 4:48 PM
Guess what, this democrat will be happy to give my vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Believe me, I am not alone -- lots of democrats who are truly unhappy with the Obama campaign will do the same.
Posted by: Lee | March 23, 2008 4:48 PM
What an interesting point -- does Obama really want delegates to follow their constitutiency -- or is that only in the states in which he's winning? If Richardson were to follow his constitutiency he'll be placing his vote for Clinton. So where does leave Obama then?
And why doesn't Obama stand up and speak out for voters in Florida and Michigan? Are they polling against him so that's why he doesn't want their votes to count?
Posted by: Katy | March 23, 2008 4:48 PM
HILLARY: PLEASE, get a little class for once in your life, and GO AWAY !!
Your chances of getting the nomination are zilch. Save yourself $$$ millions. Save the Democratic Party from going down the drain.
PLEASE, go back to New York, or better yet, Arkansas, and LEAVE US ALONE !!
Posted by: Ingrid | March 23, 2008 4:48 PM
HILLARY: PLEASE, get a little class for once in your life, and GO AWAY !!
Your chances of getting the nomination are zilch. Save yourself $$$ millions. Save the Democratic Party from going down the drain.
PLEASE, go back to New York, or better yet, Arkansas, and LEAVE US ALONE !!
Posted by: Ingrid | March 23, 2008 4:49 PM
HILLARY: PLEASE, get a little class for once in your life, and GO AWAY !!
Your chances of getting the nomination are zilch. Save yourself $$$ millions. Save the Democratic Party from going down the drain.
PLEASE, go back to New York, or better yet, Arkansas, and LEAVE US ALONE !!
Posted by: Ingrid | March 23, 2008 4:49 PM
The Clinton's practice "Old School Karl Rove-style" politics. And it shows. Haven't we had enough of the back room deals, say-anything to get elected, destroy your opponent, and damn-the-American-People politics??
Posted by: cafepress.com/wetnoodle | March 23, 2008 4:49 PM
Well Hillary has twisted the truth about everything for so many years that now it comes naturally for her ...........She claims all sorts of experience but just being a first lady for 8 years does not make her presidental material .She has stretched the truth about some of her trips like claiming they were underfire , you and i both know any sectret service person is not going to let a first lady ( even Hillary ) get in the line of fire and we both know there are flight controllers , pilots and everyone but her knowing what is happening that if the airpirt was under fire they would not attempt to land .It is funny only her and one of her yes men remmeber any fire ...Sinbad and others do not recall any fire and what would they have to gain by lying ? She also had the chance to do something about the healthcare when Bill put her in charge the first term and she failed and they had 8 full years and did not better it any. She is so power driven that she let Bill make a complete a*** of herself over the Monica issue ..she could not control or know anything about her husband and his antics given his reputation when he was governor and we are supposed to think she is a smart on top of it woman >>>>>>.she is palin scary is what she is ..........
Posted by: tootie | March 23, 2008 4:49 PM
What bothers me the most is how much of total hypocrite and fraud Obama is.
He's the slickest Chicago politician in years, not Jesus.
His supporters talk about how great a person he is but his actions show him to be anything but that.
The fact that he got elected in Chicago by forcing every other candidate off the ballot using legal loopholes, and especially the fact that he let the people who voted for him freeze to death in slums in his own district that his friend Rezko got $100M to repair or replace but didn't touch, speaks volumes about the kind of person Barry Obama really is.
The mask is coming off.
The real Barry Obama is a really bad guy!!!
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 4:49 PM
And another thing, sleaze meisters like Carville (an advisor?), Penn, and Wolfson (leaving out Ickes) are employed by the Clintons. Think about what that says about Bill and Hillary's executive decision making? HC continues to unravel revealing herself to be an angry unlikeable windbag. Read Gail Sheehy's biography of her, "Hillary's Choice." Get the freakin facts from a reliable source. Not like the Clinton's!
Posted by: Dahveed | March 23, 2008 4:49 PM
I am still waiting for Obama to tell me more on his position on the issues. He has been feeding us with abstracts, I can hardly see through the fog of his speeches. Please Obama, more substance and less abstracts.
Posted by: johnsilverstone | March 23, 2008 4:50 PM
As I think about the rhetoric in these comment posts now compared to a couple months ago, I really have to wonder how the Democrats are going to be able to pull themselves together again after a nominee is finally chosen. Earlier in the primary season, supporters for both candidates were vigorous in their support, but actually seemed to recognize that the other candidate could be good as well. People, too, also seemed to think for themselves in these posts. Now, however, people seem to do little more than repeat the talking points of the campaigns' various hit men, and the tone is downright vicious. I mean, look at how many people are doing little more in these posts than calling Richardson a traitor--there is no thought, no insight, no personal agency in any of this. Obama's supporters seem to be managing little better. Both sides are so blindly, madly urging their candidate that they see little else, and winners and losers alike will continue to feel little else for the other side but anger and resentment after a nominee is chosen.
Democrats benefited to a point having a vigorous nomination season, but sometime around Ohio and Texas, the continuing race became more a liability. Lines have been drawn in the sand, and nobody seems willing to bridge them, and I have to wonder if a large portion of the party won't continue to sulk behind those lines in November.
The situation in the country still favors Democrats in the fall, and I expect that the party will see impressive gains in the House and Senate. In the presidential contest, however, Democrats seem to be doing everything they can to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
This isn't even to say that the party needs to rally right now behind one candidate or another. Democrats could use this continuing primary to keep themselves more prominently in the spotlight, and Clinton and Obama are in the spotlight right now, much more so than McCain, who remains an afterthought even in the minds of many Republicans until the Democratic contest is settled. But the spotlight is showing a lot more ugliness than beauty at the moment, and this is where Democrats are squandering their chances.
Posted by: blert | March 23, 2008 4:50 PM
Sadly, Gov. Rendell accuses others of bad faith and then he goes on Fox News with an interview with Steve Centanni and has the audacity to utter a BALD FACED LIE -
Gov Rendell said that Obama stopped the Michigan revote. A BALD FACED LIE.
Then Rendell goes on to say that gov Richardson "wants "us" to get out" of the campaign. Since when is it "us" Gov Rendell. I thought it was Hillary's campaign to give up not.
Of course Steve Centanni let him get away with these things, it is FOX afterall.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:50 PM
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Hillary's campaign is like the hitchiker,who,as you pass them by, gives you the finger.
Posted by: borage | March 23, 2008 04:43 PM
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well.. i guess that only means one thing. we need to pass the clintons.. stop 100 feet up the road, and then as hillary and billary come running up out of breath.. we need to TAKE OFF! and then stop yet another 100 feet up the road... and yell out the window to them, "soooooorry...." and then when hillary and billary come running up yet again this time REALLY out of breath.. we need to TAKE OFF AGAIN! let's f* with the clintons!!! :) :) :)
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:50 PM
It's all very simple. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." Bill Clinton is a scoundrel reduced to his last refuge. QED
(I note with interest. Clinton gave this speech to a veteran's organization just as McCarthy made his "57 Communists" charge before a similar meeting 1950 or 51.)
Posted by: Phrank | March 23, 2008 4:51 PM
Bill Richardson bit the hand that fed him because he sees another Cabinet job in his future. It does not take much insite to disrobe this opportunist. A man who must tell you he is Hispanic, as a card to play for Obama, however it will take more than him for the Hispanics to line up with the Blacks.
Shame on you Bill. But you don't know the low class thing you have done, do you?
Don Jones
MyManJohn.com
Posted by: Don Jones | March 23, 2008 4:51 PM
There are many Democrats well qualified to be president to choose from. The looming stalemated convention should release the delegates,including a 50/50 split from Michigan and Florida, and select one who could unite the party. Obama and Clinton have produced a polarized divide too deep and wide for either to overcome. I would be using every bit of skill I have to convince Powell to move over and run against those who dismissed his wisdom when it was needed. Powell and any number of others would be their dream ticket.
Posted by: Valjean | March 23, 2008 4:51 PM
Thanks for your comments Dave.
We'll be having a meet up next week on the topic of "Which Entitled Politicians are an Oil Tanker Full of Scum and Which are Not." We recognized the need for this educational session because so many of us Entitled Politicians are confused about the topic. Will keep you posted.
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians | March 23, 2008 4:52 PM
it is a sad year for the people of the US. the democrats can not win because of a white woman and a black man. what was started is undone. the war will go on and the ecomony will fall. both partys will be losers. is the US doomed? john McCain will win, the democrats are divided. there is no hope.
Posted by: donald share | March 23, 2008 4:52 PM
capone1 |
McSame?? LOL - my -- you Obama uspporters are just exactly like your counterparts in Bush Supporters group.
And let me be clear where you weren't - that is NOT a compliment!
Posted by: Katy | March 23, 2008 4:52 PM
Bill Richardson and Obama a great choice.
As a New Yorker, I am still looking to see
what Hillary has done in NY? NOTHING for New York, OK! The Clinton's are high on the horse, and that is it. So dishonest with the rest of the rats in NY, Spitzer was one of her friends. They cannot be trust!!!! They take money for favors!
Vote Obama!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:52 PM
osirisravanz posted:
OBAMA/RICHARDSON
AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION 18%
HISPANIC AMERICAN POPULATION 33 %
the reality is that the Hispanic voter block will overwhelmingly vote for the chance to have the first Hispanic Vice President.
so what does that mean? It means that OBAMA/RICHARDSON ticket would only need 10% of the white vote to have a blowout in November, Richardson knows that.
So what are people waiting for? Come on, everybody!!! Let's do the black and brown boogie. I will vote for Obama in November.
If Hillary and Bill destroy the party by forcing her nomination on the American people, I will not toss my personal dignity into the trash can and vote for Hillary or McCain or whoever the Rethuglican candidate may be. I will not vote at all!!!
Posted by: RickCadena | March 23, 2008 4:53 PM
Obama.What a ham!!
Posted by: dimitri | March 23, 2008 4:54 PM
In answer to those who say Richardson and Kennedy and Kerry should not support Obama because their states did not go for Obama, I have this to say:
Democratic primaries are not "winner take all" in terms of delegates. It just so happens that much of Massachusetts DID go for Obama. Are those voters to be ignored??
As for New Mexico, that race was very, very close. Clinton "won" by less than one percentage point. Bill Richardson has every right to endorse Obama.
Clinton supporters use every chance they get to twist and distort things. I guess they have to because the REALITY IS that Clinton has about one chance in 1,000 of winning the nomination.
Posted by: Ralph G. | March 23, 2008 4:54 PM
Is that a beard Richardson has or is he trying out for the next Lord of the Rings movie?
Scary.
He is a freaking Judas. No question about that.
Latinos don't look up to him for anything. What kind of joke is that supposed to be? Latinos will stay home during the general election if Obama steals this. Count on it.
WHO NEEDS VOTER FRAUD WHEN THERE IS A GUY NAMED OBAMA?
WE THOUGH GEORGE BUSH WAS BAD DISENFRANCHISING ONE STATE.
OBAMA IS TWISTING ARMS AND LEGS TO DISENFRANCHISE TWO STATES
If Florida and Michigan voters rights are protected, Hillary Clinton will win this nomination hands down - Obama is twisting arms and legs to keep those AMERICAN CITIZEN votes and voices from being counted. He is illegitimate. Why should he care? He doesn't even like America or it's flag.
Mr. Obama would be an illegitimate president (we won't even capitalize that in the same sentence with his name).
He stole the states he has won by not answering questions that were asked about his past.
He is a con man with a twenty year attendance in a rabid racist church.
He may appoint Farrakhan ambassador to the UN. Like his church, Obama never denounced the man until he was asked to.
Mr. Obama is a con man.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:54 PM
People saying that the superdelegates should vote by states goes back to the old south and the confederate uprising. The superdelegates should vote for who the country wants, not what their individual state wants, and thats what Richardson and Obama are saying.
Posted by: Vequor | March 23, 2008 4:54 PM
"If Hillary becomes the nominee, the election becomes a referendum on Bill Clinton vs. George Bush's Presidency.
That's a Guarenteed win for Democrats.
Bill Clinton turned a Republican deficit into a Democratic Surplus.
Everybody did well when Bill was President.
People remember those days very fondly.
Hillary will win by a landslide."
Unfortunately, it becomes a race about all the "experience" John McCain has that Hillary falsely claims she has.
John McCain wins that one.
I'm beginning to wonder if she can claim exclusive credit for anything, esp after the Bosnia whopper. For each "accomplishment", the people there seem to dispute it. Are they all liars? How deep does the deceit go?
Posted by: UncleRemus | March 23, 2008 4:55 PM
Let Obama have this nomination and let us make sure he loses in GE so that he can never run again.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:55 PM
correction.oops
Obama.what a sham!!
Posted by: dimitri | March 23, 2008 4:55 PM
Obama is the best candidate of the 3 remaining. Hillary is a good candidate, but not as visionary and overall well balanced as Obama. McCain is a nice guy, but with wrong ideas.
Posted by: Mark | March 23, 2008 4:56 PM
The Clinton's have always cut the corner of truth and decency... just enough too look like they are playing by the rules... but the 90's have dated them and their politics. They are dinosaurs.
Posted by: Matt | March 23, 2008 4:56 PM
Pretty far out, saying Obama is a uniter. How many Americans shop, work etc. at Wal-mart, yet Obama equates being on the Wal-mart board of directors with his long-time ties with the sleazy "fixer" Rezko.
How many Americans, of whatever race, are patriotic? How many of them are proud to display the flag? I imagine most Americans would say they supported ousting Saddam Hussein, but they don't support how the effort was carried out. Obama disparages the judgment of the majority.
So, he has already alienated about 65-70% of Americans. At least 1/3 of the rest are probably turned off by his growing record of dishonesty. Remember for example that he initially claimed he didn't know Rezko and only worked 5 hours for him, when he later had to admit to the decade long relationship with his neighbor (Rezko) who he purchased houses with on the same day in 2005.
So, he's united the Starbucks crowd, but his appeal beyond that and the African Americans who formerly loved Clinton and now hate her (racist reaction?)is very limited. Hopefully Clinton will pull it out so the Dems can run a feasible candidate.
Posted by: kevin h | March 23, 2008 4:56 PM
Write in Mike Gravel for President!
Posted by: Mike Gravel | March 23, 2008 4:56 PM
After reading these comments, I am off to place some money on McCain as the likely next president.
I honestly can't see any significant policy differences between Obama and Clinton. But I will say that as an outside observer, if Obama can't be nominated because of his preacher's comments, or his wife's comments, then no black will ever be president of the United States.
To pretend there are black leaders who have no friends, family, etc. who have expressed bitterness towards America as run by it's white majority is to be a fraud. What it really means is you can only be president if you are a white.
Again, to an outsider, Clinton is a creditable first woman candidate and Obama is a creditable first black candidate. If the Dems were exited by the luxuory of this choice, they would be well positioned to unite around the winner and capture the presidency. But it looks instead as thought they will drag each other through the mud until those who felt some hope have turned away in disgust and the rest turn to bomber McCain as the cleanest of a dirty lot.
How sad. And many of the folks commenting here are the cause of it just as much as the political professionals engaging in sly innuendo and backhanded racism or sexism.
But you do make it easier to pick a winner on the Iowa Electronic Markets.
A northern neighbour
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:57 PM
My name is Scum, and I disapprove this message -- particularly the part which associates me with Senator Clinton's campaign. I am not associated with her, I do not support her, and I think she would be the worst president ever.
Scum
Posted by: Scum | March 23, 2008 4:57 PM
NOBAMA/RICARDSON
Es cierto que asco estos dos.
No vamos a votar por NOBAMA...
We will not vote for Obama no matter who he tries to peddle in front of us.
His biggoted and racist ties have been discovered for the world to see. He sat in a church for 20 years and was OK with the racism, anti american and biggoted views of his pastor....while most of us would of done the right thing and walked away from that hatred.
We cannot support someone who thinks of white people as "typical white person". His views of white American came to light....after the majority of states have voted....otherwise he would not be here.
Latinos/Hispanics are not stupid ....how long before he shows us how he really feels about our community.
We will vote Clinton or McCain before we vote Obama.
Posted by: chula | March 23, 2008 4:57 PM
I'm glad to see Richardson's endorsement.
Obama has inspired many of us by speaking the truth about the war, and the need to address health care and education, to create jobs, and bring America together to get this done.
He is the only candidate to try to bridge the generational, racial, gender, and political divides in the interest of the good of the country. He has almost one million more votes than Clinton, and has has more delegates. He will be a great president.
Request to people who post comments: Please try to be civil. Nasty personal remarks are totally unnecessary, and are the ugly underside of our political process.
Posted by: Nancy | March 23, 2008 4:57 PM
Can't we all just get along?
Posted by: Former President Gore | March 23, 2008 4:58 PM
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As I think about the rhetoric in these comment posts now compared to a couple months ago, I really have to wonder how the Democrats are going to be able to pull themselves together again after a nominee is finally chosen. Earlier in the primary season, supporters for both candidates were vigorous in their support, but actually seemed to recognize that the other candidate could be good as well."
Posted by: blert | March 23, 2008 04:50 PM
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blert... i don't think we will pull together.
two things here as i see them.
1) you have always heard the democrats always seem to self destruct before someone has the chance to destroy them. i believe that... but only because of reason #2.
2) i think it is because, as an "alternative" party, the dems views are as diverse as the people themselves... so, you will always have people siding against the other. the replublicans aren't like that. they are smurfs. the repubs are all the same. but then again with the dems.. you always have a spoiler... be it a ralph nader, or in todays case, a hillary who will do ANYTHING to get to the office of the presidency.. and she will try and completely trash her opponent in order to accomplish it. obama said he would run a clean campaign, and he has. hillary and her husband are both disgusting. i can't even tell who is running for office.. hillary, or billary...
self destruction at it's finest.
* B O O M *
Posted by: presGWBfanclub | March 23, 2008 4:59 PM
Calling Richardson a traitor to the Clintons is pretty sick. Just because they helped his career doesn't mean he owes them his support if he thinks another candidate would be better. He didn't attack the Clintons when he endorsed Obama, he said nice things about them. Incredible the way the Clintonians and Obamans are forgetting that the larger political enemy for both of them is the R's.
Posted by: newageblues | March 23, 2008 4:59 PM
I liked Richardson at one time, but he should be criticizing an administration whose reaction is "So?" to citizen's opposition to their policies, not taking part in yet another Democratic circular firing squad. Life was a lot better under the Clinton's watch, and if Big Dog plays a part in a new administration, that's fine with me, because things right now pretty much suck.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:59 PM
I liked Richardson at one time, but he should be criticizing an administration whose reaction is "So?" to citizen's opposition to their policies, not taking part in yet another Democratic circular firing squad. Life was a lot better under the Clinton's watch, and if Big Dog plays a part in a new administration, that's fine with me, because things right now pretty much suck.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 4:59 PM
I hold Gov. Richardson in high esteem. He is a highly sophisticated individual with moderate views on politics. Those in the Clinton campaign are examples of sour grapes.
Gov. Richardson is pleading for unity in the Democratic party. Many of us do feel that the Clinton campaign is in disarray. Their strategy keeps backfiring on them. The implication in Bill Clinton's statement that Barak Obama is not a patriot is shameful.
Posted by: An Academic | March 23, 2008 5:00 PM
Some info on Bill Richardson:
"Richardson has spent nearly his entire career as a public servant. A Democrat from New Mexico, he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1983 and served until January 1997. As a congressman he was chief deputy Democratic whip and sat on the Commerce, Intelligence, and the Resource committees. In February 1997 he became the U.S. ambassador to the UN. Known as a skilled troubleshooter, Richardson traveled to such hot spots as North Korea, Iraq, Cuba, and Sudan, where he successfully negotiated the release of American hostages. Richardson also mediated discussions between Zaire's former president Mobutu and rebel leader Laurent Kabila, which resulted in the fairly peaceful transfer of power in the country that is now known as the Democratic Republic of Congo. He has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize three times.
In 1998, President Clinton appointed him secretary of energy. In that position, in which he served until 2001, he set aside more than 20,000 acres for wildlife preservation, helped to stem rising oil prices, and ushered in a program to remove from the Colorado River 10 tons of radioactive material.
In 2002 Richardson successfully ran for the governorship of New Mexico. In 2007, he announced his candidacy for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.
Richardson received a BA from Tufts in 1970 and a MA from Tuft's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971.
Posted by: Leigh | March 23, 2008 5:00 PM
Oh how funny that sleazy fat slob loser
phony Hispanic Racist Bill "Judas" Richardson,the original Race Card Player
of 2008,"Did I Tell You That I'm Hispanic"
and new Black Racist Conman Barack Obama
buddy is whining about Hillary Clinton's
aides,after all the Clinton's have done
for this pathetic screw up Richardson no
less. So Barack Hussein Obama if this is
the best you can do,pal is run out a total
village idiot loser like Bill Richardson
to defend you after you and your weirdo
wife Michelle Obama and your Pastor Wright
were exposed as Racists then that shows
just exactly how desperate Obama is now.
Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | March 23, 2008 5:00 PM
Amazing that it took the post racial candidate savior/2nd coming, leaps tall buildings, blah,blah,blah, to get the Lame Stream Media to recognize james carville for the lying scumbag hilljack that he is..and always has been. Those who don't imbibe the liberal kool aid pegged this jerk a long time ago.
Posted by: DBCooper | March 23, 2008 5:01 PM
Hurray for Bill Richardson! He knows quality when he sees it.
Posted by: mark | March 23, 2008 5:01 PM
I suspect the number of Democrats who will either stay home or vote Republican if Hillary is nominated are far greater than if Obama is nominated.
1. Hillary has openly stated that McCain would make a better president than her Democratic colleague.
2. Her husband has implied that McCain is American and Obama is un-American.
3. Hillary would be even further behind if not for the votes from the minions of Rush.
Ergo, Hillary obviously feels more comfortable with Republicans than with Democrats.
So, if she's nominated, we have a choice between two good old boy D.C. insider Republicans, and why not vote for the honest one?
With Democrats like Hillary and her neo-Republican supporters (and each and every one of you who support her are in word and deed supporting the Republican party), who needs the Republican party?
Posted by: Joe | March 23, 2008 5:01 PM
Wow. How disheartening to read these posts. What is the matter with people? The name calling, the mud-slinging, the complete paranoia... I am a democrat and I am proud of the two high caliber candidates that we have still running. It is invigorating and I would be thrilled to have either of them in the White House. We, the voters, have just as much ability to make this a clean campaign, by rejecting the self-serving media hype surrounding every little comment that could possibly be twisted and construed as a racist/sexist remark, or a slight. It is in the media and these blogs that these comments/incidents are blown out of all reasonable proportion and take the focus away from real issues. There is no conspiracy here. It is a political race, the spin doctors will always try to give their candidate the advantage. Don't begrudge them that. Just take it for what it is. There have been slips and mistakes on both sides. But that is to be expected, people are only human. Force the media to focus their stories on the real issues and concerns by ignoring the ridiculous fluff articles that are only meant to bait you into an irrational, emotional argument of no substance.
Posted by: Belinda | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
Bill & Hillary always rule the black vote. This time they can't. Geraldine made the comment about genre and race. Why now?
Because Hillary is losing!
If Obama was losing she wouldn't have said anything about race!!!
The CNN Team a bunch bias anaylst, CNN own by Ted Tuner who supported Bill Clinton when he ran. CNN back-up the Clinton's with air time to influence America about the Clinton's!BIAS!Corrupt team work!
Vote Barack H. Obama
Posted by: Deem | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
I would not let any of these folk walk my dog
Posted by: Sam | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
I would not let any of these folk walk my dog
Posted by: Sam | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
I don't believe the Obama campaign has been duplicitous about superdelegates respecting the will of the people. They are simply stating that the superdelegates should award the nomination to the candidate with the most voter-derived delegates. Pelosi has expressed the same sentiment. I don't believe I have ever heard the Obama campaign say that a specific delegate has to vote the same way as his/her constituents. Here in Washington state, both of our Senators endorsed Clinton long before the caucus and have not switched sides despite Obama winning by a 31 point margin.
Posted by: On Superdelegates | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
A year ago, I supported Hillary Clinton. But now, after watching her bungle her campaign so badly, I have concluded that her lack of executive skill disqualifies her from the presidency. She had it all at the beginning: huge leads, nepotistic connections, a bulging war chest, and a carefully crafted aura of inevitability. She has given up all that through very poor management and, frankly, a basic laziness in her campaign founded on the belief she deserved to win campaigns just because she was a former First Lady. It was beneath her to work hard, and that is why she lost eleven primaries in a row. Finally, the revelation that she did not even read the National Intelligence Estimate before voting for the war made me lose respect for her. Barack Obama is a more eloquent, visionary leader, and the fact that he has worked his butt off to be where he is earns him my vote. He has outworked and outthought Clinton at every turn. He has focus and attention to detail. That is why he is where he is.
Posted by: FilmMD | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
Richardson a "freaking Judas"? I am amazed at the many emotionally unbalanced comments posted in this website. Haven't you guys learned anything from your parents? Or from school? Don't you know that normal, honest people can exercise their honest judgement at any time they want? That's the only thing Richardson did: he thinks that Obama is the best candidate, and so he decided to support him. You should all simply respect his choice, in the same way I respect your choice to support other candidates, such as Mrs Clinton or Mr McCain. Be respectful, not neurotic. You'll have a better life, I tell you. Thanks.
Posted by: Mark | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
Rendell said, "we want to win -- and I think that's what Democrats care most about"
WRONG! I'm a Democrat and I care about leading this country out of the partisan MUCK the Clintons have been a huge part of. It's the CLINTONS who care about winning above everything.
Not that it seems to matter, but I think Obama will win for the Democrats just fine. McCain may be grinning now while Clinton refuses to face the inevitable and drags out the primary, but once the nominee is chosen and all the Democrats' guns point at the Republicans, McCain will have to soberly face how much America is absolutely sick of Bush's administration(s) and how the Republicans rubber stamped his policies.
Peace.
Posted by: egc52556 | March 23, 2008 5:02 PM
Richardson has it right; the Clintons are in the gutter both in campaign tactics and in morals. He is also correct in that the American people don't want to see Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. If Clinton is elected we will get 8 years of partisan politics with a lot of insider deals that will favor Clinton allies and then the Clintons through cozy post administration deals. A lot of this likely to come out during a lurid Hillary administration and we will pay the price.
Posted by: Jeff in Orlando | March 23, 2008 5:03 PM
Richardson has it right; the Clintons are in the gutter both in campaign tactics and in morals. He is also correct in that the American people don't want to see Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. If Clinton is elected we will get 8 years of partisan politics with a lot of insider deals that will favor Clinton allies and then the Clintons through cozy post administration deals. A lot of this likely to come out during a lurid Hillary administration and we will pay the price.
Posted by: Jeff in Orlando | March 23, 2008 5:03 PM
Does anyone in their right mind believe that an African American with a "hate whitey" agenda will ever be ALLOWED to be elected as President of the United States?
Posted by: voteHillary08 | March 23, 2008 5:03 PM
All this negativity. What FRIGHTENS you people? No wonder we've have the kind of adminstration in disarray for the past 7 years. You people are satisfied.
Posted by: Greg | March 23, 2008 5:04 PM
richardson has made a deal with obama to be vice president.i guess hillary would not deal. richardson made a bad deal, he will be nothing under john McCain.
Posted by: donald share | March 23, 2008 5:05 PM
Blert, I would share your reservations if I was convinced that the comments here were:
1. Representative of Democrats generally.
2. Entirely intraparty viewpoints.
I think some folks from "freerepublic" and other unpatriotic GOP sites are simply stirring the pot a bit. They are driven by the same motivations as those that drove large numbers of Republicans to vote in Democratic primaries in Ohio, Texas, and Mississippi (e.g. 9% in Texas and 12% in Mississippi -- compared to 4% in previous contests throughout January and February). The goal is to create uncertainty on the Democratic side when there should be none at this stage.
These are the same kind of folks who will continue to interfere with the Democratic nomination process throughout the remainder of the nomination season -- especially now that the GOP contest is over and that there remain some open primaries. All the more reason to wrap up the Democratic nomination contest.
Posted by: JP2 | March 23, 2008 5:05 PM
We need change. We need an economy where every income grows by at least 15% from the poorest to the richest, where millions are lifted out of poverty, where we have a balanced budget, where we have the largest budget surplus in history, where the size of the federal government in absolute numbers is reduced to the smallest since JFK.
Which Democratic candidate is best positioned to bring about this kind of change- the one who can't get his own bills passed by Congress or the one who was part of a White House that for 8 years actually did bring about such an economy. The candidate who wishes he could or the candidate who has? The choice is clear- HIllary.
Posted by: MoralProtagonist | March 23, 2008 5:06 PM
Why is it that the Clinton supporters do not come across on this blog as racist, but many of the Obama supporters clearly are misogynists. Give me a break. We democrats are imploding over this great opportunity to elect a black man or a woman, and we will end up with a stodgier Bush wanna-be in Mc Cain. This saddens me. There is dirt all around. Why can't we let the politics play out as it should, without hatred or intervention? After all the primaries, may the best person win. Afterall, we have two great choices.
Posted by: robin | March 23, 2008 5:06 PM
Hear, hear, PA indep, the vitriol *against* opponents hosted on mainstream media blogs is pretty piqued. I've been wondering why that is for a while--perhaps it's the only place where the two camps actually communicate, as blogs have become increasingly polarized towards one candidate or another. Saying, "I'll not vote for Clinton/Obama if Obama/Clinton becomes the nominee" is getting *really* old, as is spewing sound bites derived from some analysis (e.g. Obama's "Typical White Person" or Clinton's Boznia "whopper".) These sound bites do not tell the whole story. Hey, torchbloggers (you know who you are,) here's a great idea: say something good about your candidate! Try to make it new! That way, when it comes to the general election, we'll all have some currency to use!
Posted by: CC | March 23, 2008 5:06 PM
Hasn't B.R. been paying attention? Almost everyday, the B.O. camp releases a new statement attacking Hillary--whether it's on NAFTA, her first lady schedules, Bill's statements, or her tax returns, or a White House photo opp. w/Wright, there is an attack every 1-3 days. It's OK for HRC to take B.O. to task on the issues--that's what contenders do!
Posted by: John | March 23, 2008 5:06 PM
The politicians have no friends!
Posted by: Brandon | March 23, 2008 5:07 PM
The politicians have no friends!
Posted by: Brandon | March 23, 2008 5:07 PM
Richardson saw an opportunity to possibly win the VP nomination. He grabbed it, although it meant sacrificing the Clintons who virtually made his career in earlier years by helping him get cushy appointments. To give this knife-in-the-back a pretty face, he said it was for the sake of the party (as if he alone had responsibility). Richardson is a politician,------ okay, but don't get in a foxhole in a war with him. You might not survive.
Posted by: zaney8 | March 23, 2008 5:07 PM
Sounds like the whole Hillary campaign staff has been typing away full time in this comment section. To me as a non-partisan observer, it seems like the Democratic side of the campaign is boiling down to "Yes we can" versus "No you can't," and I'm inclined to go towards the positive in this election, having gotten plenty tired of the negative over the past few years.
Posted by: David | March 23, 2008 5:07 PM
The post by Yoyo Ma Ma caught my attention because of the name he chose. But now I can't find it. What happened to it? Nothing new in his message. Like a few others, he used statistics to show that an Obama + Richardson would probably result in their being voted into President and Vice-President, and he avoided insulting Hillary and calling anybody by a bad name. Bravo!
And, believe it or not, I've read that in his much quoted sermon that Minister Wright was READING what he said from a text that had been printed shortly after 9/11. Those were NOT his own words!!! A big hullaballoo all about nothing. I wish there were fewer stupid, angry people in the United States.
Posted by: Babs W. | March 23, 2008 5:07 PM
Judas betrayed Jesus which is why he is despised. One is responsible for his own act.
Posted by: jj | March 23, 2008 5:08 PM
Even though the Clinton supporters seem to see through blind eyes, the Clinton campaign has consistently been in the gutter. The Clinton agenda consists of lying, race-baiting, character assassination and guilt by association. Even against Governor Richardson.
I think its time that Clinton supporters look in the mirror and ask themselves if they still want to go along this dirty campaign.
I'm voting for Senator Obama this November. If he is denied a space on the ballot I will write his name in. And, I am hoping he picks Governor Richardson for Veep or Secretary of State
Posted by: Peter | March 23, 2008 5:08 PM
and forgetting how long the Supreme Court will likely be an extension of the Republican party if the Repubs win one more stay at the White House.
Posted by: newageblues | March 23, 2008 5:08 PM
Well, fortunately the non-aligned supporters of Clinton do have McCain as a fallback position. Let's just hope that the majority of voters show more logic than what someone has as their lastname. Race, sex, religion, or experience made more sense than lastname and unreasonable popularity. Looks like the US dodged a bullet getting Richardson out of this race and his state can take care of their error in judgement come next election.
Posted by: glosski | March 23, 2008 5:08 PM
Dave. Get a grip. Had to report you.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 5:08 PM
My apologies, Scum, for any association with the Hillary Clinton for President Campaign. The use of the term "scum," your name, has been used only by unaffiliated groups such as Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians, and First Black President (s) Against More Black Presidents and is in no way associated with my campaign. You know, Scum, that I stand for Truth, Justice and Light. That's why I saved Ireland and helped Al G***, (The President We Dare Not Mention) invent the internet. I have always stood for Change and what greater change can we expect than a white woman in the White House. Thank you for your contributions and for any helpful Barack Obama important and helpful criticism and challenges to his experience and patriotism you can add to this blog.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton | March 23, 2008 5:09 PM
Good for you Bill Richardson. Your instincts were right. Hillary's ship is sinking. Without the $5 million loan she gave herself - can someone confirm that one too. her word is worthless - her campaign is in debt. Raised $150 and is still $2 million in debt. Jeez. Someone needs a lesson in Budgeting 101.
I could manage her campaign finances better than that. First I would can the useless Wolfson. What a collosal waste of money that guy is! And then Penn should have been gone ages ago. Money poorly spent!
Hillary is toast. She ran a poor campaign. She can't win fairly, and is just spiteful enough to drag the Democratic Party down with her. she's effectively raising money just to kneecap Obama.
Superdelegates need to make a decision before its too late!
Posted by: UncleRemus | March 23, 2008 5:09 PM
Obama supporters are in denial.
They just don't "get it"
The fact that Obama allied himself with someone who spouts anti-white, anti-semitic, and anti-American rhetoric is a "deal breaker"
Its the number #1 topic of water cooler conversation around the country.
Most "Typical White People" had no idea that stuff like this has been going on.
People are really, really, angry about it.
Obama's supporters try to spin it into being about a single sermon.
Its not.
Its about a 20 year relationship.
Its about Obama choosing Wright to be his "Spritual Advisor"
It's about Obama's lies.
Its about Obama talking out of"both sides of his mouth.
Obama presented himself as a paragon of virtue and someone on a higher ethical plane than other candidates.
He's repeatedly shown through his actions that he isn't.
He's like a human chameleon.
He turns into a completely different person depending on what group of people he's with.
He's lied to us and fooled us over and over.
America doesn't trust him anymore.
He's toast.
He deserves to be.
The real Barry Obama is a really bad guy.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 5:09 PM
I will never even consider voting for Hillary because of all the pardons Bill made while in office of convicted felons of the likes of Mark Rich. Over 200 throughout his presidency. They are in bed with drug runners, arms sellers, and financial terrorist/fradulent bankers. Vince Foster knew of all these dealing as their personal lawyer...where is he now? Suicide my ass! To disagree with the Clintons is to be a dead man. Politics is a rigged game as the choices we're given to vote for are not those we want but are the lesser of 2 evils. Unless you have 50 million in net worth you don't have a chance. Abolish the federal reserve and those original owning families monopoly on our financial institutions. No more fed. bailouts with taxpayer money. Let the system correct itself and if it goes bankrupt so be it we'll implement a new sound marketplace free of stock borrowing and 100% transparent. America the beautiful has a nasty stain on her from corrupt and treasonous leaders in high office. Sad but true. America is for sale to the highest bidder.
Posted by: Gutzy1 | March 23, 2008 5:10 PM
I love America and want a leader that loves America as well. It will be the end of America when a president is elected who not only hates America, but "Damns" it in sermons, speeches, and preaches! Vote for the person who loves America, not the black panther anti-American wolf in sheeps clothing! Vote for Hilary!
Posted by: concerned american | March 23, 2008 5:11 PM
If the Clintonites have nothing better to say for her than this false claim she stands a better chance to beat McCain, it's time for her to pack it up. I'm soooo sick of her tricks, it's hard to think I once naively loved her.
Posted by: jhbyer | March 23, 2008 5:11 PM
Bring Back Dave!
Posted by: Dave Fan Club | March 23, 2008 5:11 PM
Enough of this sniping. The baiting, half truths and fact twisted statements in the personal attacks here and elsewhere demonstrate just how miserably wrong this whole process has become. No one is a virgin in politics. No one is in it just for the chance to be of 'Service'. Let's agree on that and then quit the ugliness and get back to the real issue...the well being of the population of this country. The power and status and, yes, glory granted to politicians selected as leaders and other celebrity identities is the price we pay for well being.
When that well being is denied us in nasty playground antics of contesting for control and status then we are all losers. There will always be Fat Cats and they are now and have been for many post WWII years encroaching on the well being of fellow citizens.
An unregulated government which embraces exploitation and does not regulate the socio-economic processes it is supposed to nourish, preserve and protect for the citizenry is bankrupt.
Let us no longer accept such lack of ethical/moral behavior in government and politicians and commerce for that matter and get down to the process of living decent and reasonably prosperous and healthy lives instead of continuing to slide deeper toward oblivion. Which is exactly where the United States of America is headed unless we wake up to the reality of the possibilities that are still salvageable for our country if that is we discontinue acting like third grade children fussing at each other on the playground.
Posted by: disgusted | March 23, 2008 5:11 PM
Bill Richardson just did what was in his heart, and he realized that Barack is the most eloquent political voice the United States has produced in 40 years, and can tackle a topic as sensitive as race in a courageous, intelligent way.
Why are you haters so mad? We should be celebrating Barack. Read his books, read his policies as enumerated on his web page, you will learn something. Those of you who say, "We just don't know him yet," Get to know him! He really is as good as he seems.
The rest of you can enjoy thinking about how wonderful it would be having the Clintons in the White House pardoning all their friends again, or 100 more years of Iraq with McCain, who likes to sing Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran in the shower.
Posted by: Rob H | March 23, 2008 5:12 PM
Obama supporters are in denial.
Between Cocaine, Rezko and Wright, Obama's hit the trifecta.
He couldn't get elected Dog-Catcher.
Its over.
He needs to drop out ASAP if he wants to have any chance of any job of any kind in the future.
There's a mountain of stuff people have been holding back that will come out if Obama doesn't drop out.
"Obama's slums" is an even bigger story than Wright is.
The real Obama is a really bad guy.
His past is catching up with him fast.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 5:12 PM
Clinton-aide Carville called Richardson 'Judas'. Does that mean he regards Clinton as 'Jesus' figure? Wow, talk about being self-absorbed and delusional. The Clinton camp are living in a fantasy world.
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 5:12 PM
I am a Canadian. If I can vote i will vote for Hillary.
Posted by: AnaI | March 23, 2008 5:12 PM
I'm seeing a lot of Democratic posters say that of Obama wins the nomination they will vote for McCain. I am a Democrat who supports Hillary, and Obama is not my second choice or even my third. But no way will I vote for McCain or any Republican.
I will not vote for more war, or higher gas prices, or the erosion of our constitutional rights.
Wake up people. Vote Democrat in November.
Posted by: Susan | March 23, 2008 5:12 PM
Neither of the Democratic campaign organizations benefits from petty name-calling. It's outrageous when Samantha Power calls Ms. Clinton a "monster," and it's outrageous when James Carville calls Bill Richardson a "Judas." If the Democrats continue this adolescent food fight, they'll hand the November election to the GOP. Think about it and grow up, people! Show the country and the world you have the maturity and decency to be worthy of the Oval Office!
Posted by: keith_in_seattle | March 23, 2008 5:13 PM
Oh Great, as if America doesn't have enough problems now we have Vice President Security Breach Richardson saying that at least have ov America should shut up and elect Barack (mr. Denounce it) Obama. Richie, did you have something to do with snuffing out the votes of FLA and MI too? Talk about same old politics, the last I remember, Hillary is being very careful to not offend Mr. Obama, and yet you dirty politicians of "change" and "unity" are making sport of beating Hillary over the head with any here-say reason you can find.
Richardson is purposely adding a new level of unneeded and destructive complexity to the American decision making process, and for his own selfish end of being Obama's new whitehouse pet.
Shame on Obama and Richardson for trying to cut so many voters out of the election process. Go have a party, and caucus for each other, and leave America alone, she has better matters to attend.
Posted by: Oh Great | March 23, 2008 5:13 PM
Look, Richardson must not realize that most Americans think that Politicians live in the gutter. Lobbyist contributions seem to be a legalized form of Bribery. Conflicts of interest are all over the place from top to bottom. And Privacy, well, no American, politician or not has any privacy left whatsoever. I suppose those fearing the populus the most need to keep a constant vigil on our bedrooms.
If you have not read Senator Clinton's manifesto on Privacy in the 21st century in an electronic age you are missing out. It's always someone else's daughter that gets raped. Unless it is yourself or someone near and dear to you, then the full effect of voyeurism, covert snooping into the intimacies of other people's lives in not fully appreciated.
It's spooky to know there are perverts, rogues and private individuals snooping into our personal lives on a daily basis besides big brother but it is true in this virtual world, a matter of fact to me.
I have never given anyone permission to intrude into my home, copy and paste my text or to listen to my phone conversations. Ignoring the rule of Law even hackers violate privacy thinking nothing of it. The Law says probable cause must be demonstrated to proper magistrate to violate my intimacy without my knoweledge.
Does anyone care though ? Hillary Clinton cares after the freaks busting into their bedroom hoping to gain power through impeachment. Look at those hypocrites today. I think WP had a chart of recent scandals posted last week. Even that pinhead Knute or whatever his name is was having an affair himself while grabbing for power. And don't bring up lying to American Public as excuse, their list of lies could fill a 10 gigabyte harddrive, destroyed of course.
There is no such thing as a victimless crime. These queers hiding in the shadows violating our privacy, threatening our homeland and national security by contaminating systems that cost big bucks have been ignored too long. And they are not so hard to catch if one knows what one is doing. In fact, faced with exposure, their counter-actions create enormous echoes in private and public domain.
Gutter politics, I propose we have just heard about a tip of an iceberg.
Posted by: Mark W. | March 23, 2008 5:13 PM
Screw traitor Obama! He is going to sell America out to the Islamists! Richardson is Judas!
Posted by: TruAmerican | March 23, 2008 5:13 PM
Reverend Wright for President!
Posted by: Swift Boat Veterans for Truth | March 23, 2008 5:14 PM
Okay, the pledged delegates are not going anywhere -- so the Clinton camp can forget that. The super delegates are not swarming over to save Hillary's campaign -- so the Cinton camp can forget about that. There will be no re-votes in FL and MI. With only ten states left Hillary can not catch up to Barack in the pledged delegate and popular vote count.
There will be no brokered convention -- that would be the death of the democratic party and everyone knows that.
The truth is that pressure will be put on Hillary Clinton to end her campaign.
Also, Hillary can not win the general without the black vote -- and we ain't voting for her.
Hillary -- campaign over, please step aside for the crowning of the democratic nominee.
Posted by: Andrea | March 23, 2008 5:14 PM
Look, Richardson must not realize that most Americans think that Politicians live in the gutter. Lobbyist contributions seem to be a legalized form of Bribery. Conflicts of interest are all over the place from top to bottom. And Privacy, well, no American, politician or not has any privacy left whatsoever. I suppose those fearing the populus the most need to keep a constant vigil on our bedrooms.
If you have not read Senator Clinton's manifesto on Privacy in the 21st century in an electronic age you are missing out. It's always someone else's daughter that gets raped. Unless it is yourself or someone near and dear to you, then the full effect of voyeurism, covert snooping into the intimacies of other people's lives in not fully appreciated.
It's spooky to know there are perverts, rogues and private individuals snooping into our personal lives on a daily basis besides big brother but it is true in this virtual world, a matter of fact to me.
I have never given anyone permission to intrude into my home, copy and paste my text or to listen to my phone conversations. Ignoring the rule of Law even hackers violate privacy thinking nothing of it. The Law says probable cause must be demonstrated to proper magistrate to violate my intimacy without my knoweledge.
Does anyone care though ? Hillary Clinton cares after the freaks busting into their bedroom hoping to gain power through impeachment. Look at those hypocrites today. I think WP had a chart of recent scandals posted last week. Even that pinhead Knute or whatever his name is was having an affair himself while grabbing for power. And don't bring up lying to American Public as excuse, their list of lies could fill a 10 gigabyte harddrive, destroyed of course.
There is no such thing as a victimless crime. These queers hiding in the shadows violating our privacy, threatening our homeland and national security by contaminating systems that cost big bucks have been ignored too long. And they are not so hard to catch if one knows what one is doing. In fact, faced with exposure, their counter-actions create enormous echoes in private and public domain.
Gutter politics, I propose we have just heard about a tip of an iceberg.
Posted by: Mark W. | March 23, 2008 5:15 PM
Its also mathematically impossible for Clinton to win, so she should GRACIOUSLY drop out of the race, for the good of the party and then nation. Clinton is bleeding the party in this civil war that she cannot win. She has become the Mike Huckabee of the Democrats.
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 5:15 PM
G** D****it. I told you not to bring me into this!
Posted by: Judas Richardson | March 23, 2008 5:15 PM
If Richardson is Judas, does that make
Clinton Jesus? This is ridiculous.
Governor Bill Richardson came out to finally endorse Barrack Obama. Richardson said that Obama's' speech on race was his deciding factor. The speech showed the leadership qualities Richardson was looking for. I have to agree with Richardson, as he said that, it's time for Clinton to step down, and the Democrats to come together. Clinton cannot beat Obama's numbers no matter HOW they parse it. That is an undeniable fact. Clinton's campaign knows this very well. When Clinton thought she would have it in the bag, after California. Florida and Michigan did not matter to her then. Just like Clinton dismissed the 11 state streak Obama had, because "NONE OF THOSE SATES COUNT ANYWAY". How "disenfranchised" do those sates feel, by Clinton? what an atrocious thing to say.
Obama has two former presidential candidates backing him now. They know who has the best chance with the Republicans in Nov. Just because Obama did not bring up the past with Clinton, do not think the republicans won't. When the Clintons tax records, Bills Foundation, and Library funding sources are reveled, it could destroy the party for decades. There is 1/2 BILLION dollars in funding alone to explain! If it were all kosher, it would have been known long ago. There is an ongoing fraud lawsuit in California, which the media has not been reporting as well. There will be another time for a woman to run the Whitehouse. It's not this woman, not this time.
Posted by: Martha Davidson | March 23, 2008 5:15 PM
Dear. Washingtonpost.com,
Just look at the horrendous, malicious, immature, and reprehensible "dialogue" above and around this post. Maybe you are trusting your readers' sense of decency a little too much. I'm sorry to say this, but from my experience the consumers of media aren't qualified or willing to engage in civilized dialogue, so maybe you should just disable your comment feature until people can grow up. The things people that will say when they can post anonymously on the internet are simply appalling. Frankly, I am disgusted.
Posted by: Will C. | March 23, 2008 5:15 PM
Richardson is Richardson.
Obama is Obama.
Cheney is Cheney.
svreader is a Clinton/McCain attack dog with a bad case of rabies.
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 5:16 PM
Obama commnetors: facts and important issues.
Clinton supporters: straw man arguements, insults, and racism.
Nedd I say more?
Obama '08
Posted by: Jason | March 23, 2008 5:16 PM
This is a joke. Bill clearly aligned Hillary and McCain as great Americans and left out the frontrunner of his own party. There is no mystery here about his intention. And then to call foul when they were called on it is a hypocritial joke. The Clintons cannot be trusted and play gutter politics. No, the Clintons are not innocent victims here.
Posted by: Diane | March 23, 2008 5:16 PM
It is truly sad to read all the attacks on one another. I am an Obama supporter and believe he should and will win the presidency but I will vote for hillary if that is the way it works out. As much as I disagree with a lot of her tactics and her unwillingness to seperate herself from lobbyist she is 100% better than McCain.
As far as Richardson I am proud that he backed Obama and he gained a huge amount of repect from me for doing so. Not only did he choose to step out after the whole wright scandal and show his support but having worked very closely with the clintons he still choose the candidate he believes in. That says alot!
I find the venomous attacts that come from the clinton supporters sad and pathetic. Wake up and realize this presidency has the power to change this country for the better and we all need to work together to make this happen and be O.k. with the fact our 1st choice might not be our nominee.
WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN AT ALL COSTS. SO MANY MORE LIVES WILL BE LOST IF WE HAVE FOUR MORE YEARS OF WARMONGERING
time to come together people!!!
Posted by: db | March 23, 2008 5:16 PM
here here.
Posted by: dak | March 23, 2008 5:17 PM
Stop IT now! Hillary Clinton must and should leave the race NOW! She is a NOT Bill Clinton and should stop running on his merit. Enough already, she is being a spoiled brat and a playground bully. Depart with class and dignity, why don't you!
Posted by: Stop IT now! | March 23, 2008 5:19 PM
Ed Rendell on Fox kept quoting poles that appeared to show Clinton would do better than Obama against McCain. These poles are meaningless and of no value when making an argument. Months ago Rudy Guiliani was polling ahead of everyone...where is he now? In October when Obama and McCain have a chance to make their case to the American people, then the poles might have some predictive value. Try another argument for Clinton Gov. Rendell
Posted by: Jim White | March 23, 2008 5:19 PM
I'm a true American. Islamists suck. Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians suck, Dave sucks, oil is good, Christ is lord, Obama is a fraud, "fat hairy Mexicans" suck, people like me are really patriotic, Reverend Wright sucks, Hillary is good because she drinks Schmidt beer. She's an "oil tanker full of scum" and that's fine with me. Apologies to Dave. Hey Dave, where are you?
Posted by: TruAmercan | March 23, 2008 5:20 PM
What a hipocrit Obama is when he makes such a big hype about transparency, yet when dirt is uncovered about him, he is quick to dismiss it and only talks about those things only after the fact. That is NOT transparency! Obama is so corrupt and dirty, it makes Al Capone look like a monk. I hate how Obama cries and whinnes when dirt is found on him, and is quick to blame it on Clinton with no proof whatsoever...and he blames Clinton for causing a divide among democrats, yet it is HIM that is causing it, nobody else! Do we really need a little beatch like Obama running this country? Do the right thing! I'm voting for hilary, but if it comes down to Obama vs. McCain, I'm voting for McCain.
Posted by: what happened to transparancy | March 23, 2008 5:21 PM
This is why Republicans, especially John Kyl have to GO!!
"But Kyl said that Democrats are the ones in the government to blame for the crisis in the credit markets.
"It wasn't the Bush administration as much as it was Democrats in Congress who were pushing the lending institutions to get out there and lend more money, even to unqualified buyers -- to the minorities, to the poor, to the young -- so that everyone could own a home," he said."
He simply assumes that minorities, the poor, and the young are unqualified buyers. This is a fact, a truth in his world... Time for his world to come to an end.
Posted by: jana in az | March 23, 2008 5:21 PM
You mean to tell me that Bill Clinton - Rhodes Scholar and famous parser of words and phrase - "Slick Willie" - didn't realize his comments implied that Obama didn't love his country by arranging his words so as to leave Obama out of the statement? REALLY?
Its sad that America won't wake up to its own hypocrisy and vote to change it. We have in the power of this generation, right now, the opportunity to redirect ourselves in a way that can actually make us proud to be an American. As a vet, I would like to be proud of my country again. I haven't really been proud of it since the first Gulf War - because we made a point of sticking to our morals as much as possible in warfare. I didn't like our president then, but at least he didn't drag our country entirely into the gutter (well, there were those S&L scandals...) with his zealotry or his zipper. I was proud of my country as a kid under Carter, even though the zealot lot in the country hated him, he is an honorable person. I believe the same of Obama, and I believe that with pride in America - not the "ooo yeah we beat you up playground pride" but the kind of solemn dignified pride my grandparents had in their imperfect nation - that this country can leapfrog past its economic woes, past its scandals, past its wars and get back to doing what America does best - and that is making things, inventing, progressing humanity, delivering on its promise to be the shining beacon of liberty and setting an example for the rest of the world - instead of picking on other countries to make an example of.
Senator Clinton is a passable senator for us in New York - not outstanding, simply adequate. If you want to look at senatorial achievements, look around the US. Tom Daschle did far more for his state - and the nation - than CLinton has done for hers.
Her sole qualification to the White House beyond what Senator Obama has is that she occasionally shared a bed with the president.
I have a new nickname for HRC's campaign - it is the "hypocritical finger pointers". Have you ever wondered why she has to poll for every answer to any issue? She can't just take a stand and say "this is what I believe some of you will disagree, and I respect your opinion, but" blah blah blah.
Which is exactly why I am stumping among friends and family for Barack Hussein Obama. I help them understand him, his positions, and the change needed in our country. I'm preparing them for the angles of attack that the RNC and its cronies are sure to take (race baiting, fear mongering, religious zealots antagonizing relatives with fearfull propositions, district push polls, etc.) You know what? I'm winning them over one vote at a time. Its time to vote for something rather than against something. Vote for Obama.
Posted by: drew ravani | March 23, 2008 5:21 PM
Deem, you're not serious about media bias in favor of Clinton. Recently, independent watchdog organizations like Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting and the Center for Media and Public Affairs, have documented persistent and widespread bias against Clinton and in favor of Obama. Even my GOP friends say it is laughable the way the media has favored Obama.
By the way, Time Warner bought CNN in 2000 and Ted Turner left Time Warner in early 2006.
Posted by: MoralProtagonist | March 23, 2008 5:22 PM
HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE YET TO HAVE ANSWERED BY AN OBAMA SUPPORTER: If Hillary had been going to a "white centered" church for 20 years; the fundamental theology of the church was one of white versus black; the pastor of the church often made racist remarks against blacks; the pastor of the church gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award; and Hillary considered this pastor her "mentor and spiritual adviser"; would you give her the pass that you are giving Obama. I doubt you could answer this question honestly, so I'll tell you what would happen: The righteous indignation of Obama and the media would rise up, the demand would be made that Hillary withdraw from the nomination process immediately, and Hillary's political career would be over, period.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 5:23 PM
Jason,
You've got it backwards.
Obama supporters love Obama and hate Hillary for no other reason but color, sex and age.
Obama supporters completely ignore the fact that Obama did nothing while the poorest of the poor who elected him in Chicago froze to death in unheated slums Rezko got $100M to repair or replace, but didn't touch.
Obama supporters ignore that Obama chose a anti-white, anti-jew, anti-american pastor as his "spiritual advisor"
Obama supporters refusee to open their eyes to the fact that Obama is a Politician, not a savior, and has no experience to qualify him for the job of being President.
Obama supporters want him because they want him.
Clinton supporters want Hillary because she's been a great Senator and before that was Bill Cliinton's closest advisor and knows how to get things done in Washington.
Obama can't get elected without the support of "typical white people"
He's lost that, for good.
Its not coming back.
He's toast.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 5:23 PM
Vaddabout alla gud t'ings Hillary's dood?
Posted by: Wm. Sloan Coffin IV | March 23, 2008 5:23 PM
Dear. Washingtonpost.com,
Just look at the horrendous, malicious, immature, and reprehensible "dialogue" above and around this post. Maybe you are trusting your readers' sense of decency a little too much. I'm sorry to say this, but from my experience the consumers of media aren't qualified or willing to engage in civilized dialogue, so maybe you should just disable your comment feature until people can grow up. The things people that will say when they can post anonymously on the internet are simply appalling. Frankly, I am disgusted.
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Oppression in Tibet | March 23, 2008 5:24 PM
I get so angry and bitter when I read about the problems the Democrats are having between Hillary and Obama. If only Hillary would understand that it is the far left members of the party -- those who read firedoglake and are secure in their gender identity -- who will have the ultimate say on who gets elected. Angry bitter leftists need to unite, not fight!
Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | March 23, 2008 5:24 PM
It's clear that Obama lacks the support of the Democratic base and only won in caucus states where there was considerable cross voting. His endorsements have been a slap in the face to the base, except of course the black constituency. You can't build "unity" on disunity; that's what his candidacy has created. This endorsement was so poorly timed, so self-serving, so unloyal. This is not "changing the politics of destruction" which he has accused Clinton of. At every turn in this race, every single endorsement, Oprah, Kennedy, now Richadson. The first two did not result in a win in MASS or a win in LA or big blue states. He only won in red states which he would be unlikely to capture in Nov. So, he has a viability problem, as much as Hillary is down on electoral and popular votes, he is down on swing states, base support, and blue states.
He is not a viable frontrunner, can't carry the ticket to a win in Nov.
Posted by: vammap | March 23, 2008 5:24 PM
We have no strategy for Iraq, other than to continue to offer our soldiers as cops. Seeing that W can't finish a sentence without misspeaking or getting confused, I'd like to hear just one congressional Republican tell us specifically what the goals are now. GOP has spent plenty of time describing the risks of leaving, but not the objective of staying.
That said, it will probably continue until 2013, because the Dems are handing this election to McSame. Some Dem with a pair needs to step up and take control here. Howard Dean is letting the party implode during what should be a sure win election.
Posted by: CantBelieveImAHillarySupporter | March 23, 2008 5:24 PM
clarification: True dyed in the wool democrats probably will vote for whoever survives the mud bath being slung by the media.
People who have the brains to vote for a person based upon their policies, actions, experience, ability, and honesty will vote for the individual who is most closely aligned with their personal views.
IF the democratic party and media force either of these candidates to drop out before the end of the primaries, the non dyed in the wool supporters will switch to McCain.
It appears that more white people are aligned with Clinton than with Obama. It would probably not be a good thing to force her from this contest. To force her from the contest is to throw away the support and supporters who stood behind her in perference for what is perceived to be the greater good.
Since that greater good is at the expense of their vote, obviously they should vote for the other party.
Clinton may well lose the nomination and stand with her party behind Obama, but, that's her job ... I won't. My support was for Clinton and not for the faded, washed out, losers which constitute the Democratic party.
Posted by: glosski | March 23, 2008 5:24 PM
Does anyone the average IQ of Clinton supporters? I would guess less than 50.
Posted by: Rose | March 23, 2008 5:25 PM
Here's where Rendell is wrong: The Superdelegates should follow the will of the people, in that they shouldn't overturn the pledged delegate vote. But to say Richardson, Kerry, Kennedy, et al., should follow their states is ridiculous. Nobody said the superdelegates should model on the electoral college. Barack stunned Hillary in Maine, for instance. Our governor is backing Hillary, as are a few other superdelegates. Others remain undeclared. One of our DNC members said she would wait to see how the others chose to make sure Maine's superdelegate balance reflected as best as possible the percentage of the vote here.
Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | March 23, 2008 5:25 PM
When I saw Rev Wright's comments, even out of the context of his history. I understood why those things could be said. I am not saying that his isolated words do not offer destructive use, and in that sense, were carelessly spoken.
Yet, we must also consider the irresponsible use of them, by those who would extract benefit from them, no matter the cost to our society.
I have made an effort to examine Rev Wright's and his communitie's crunstructive efforts, as a more complex evaluation, and render a more complete perspective.
As a senior, white, grandmother, who suported the civil rights movement, I offer a long held conviction for consideration.
Having witnessed dignity and magnaminity, withstand brutality and humiliation, I began, all those years ago, to express the opinion, that this country owes an undeclared gratitude to those, who have risen above their exploitation, by America's history.
Please examine, the long histories of retribution, passed from generation to generation, common elsewhere, and imagine if that was common here as well. Even after WWI and WWII, when significant numbers of mistreated minorities, even while serving this county, returned, trained and armed, to continued mistreatment, yet did not resort to violence.
Just as America didn't thank and respect their service, we have not thanked or respected them for their forgiveness and restraint.
I became aware of this in the early 50's, when I married a man from Northern Ireland, and had reason to contrast responses, to histories of grievence.
Could we not take our share of contribution, to the words utter in a portion of Rev. Wright's sermon, and find it within ourselves, to express a long belated recognition and appreciation for the restraint, that has contributed so much, to the stability of our society, and the quality of life, the rest of us have been the benefactors of?
I publicly say to Rev. Wright and his congregation, now, as I have said to others, these many years: "Thank you all for the greatness of soul, I humbly pray I might be capable of myself."
It helps me to rewatch "Eyes on the Prize," every Lenten season, and be reminded that I should strive to do the same. I am deeply inspired by the power of love and forgiveness, demonstrated by others.
I hold out my hand and hope the effort to overcome continues.
With Love and sincerity,
Beverly McCann
Posted by: Beverly McCann | March 23, 2008 5:26 PM
When I saw Rev Wright's comments, even out of the context of his history. I understood why those things could be said. I am not saying that his isolated words do not offer destructive use, and in that sense, were carelessly spoken.
Yet, we must also consider the irresponsible use of them, by those who would extract benefit from them, no matter the cost to our society.
I have made an effort to examine Rev Wright's and his communitie's crunstructive efforts, as a more complex evaluation, and render a more complete perspective.
As a senior, white, grandmother, who suported the civil rights movement, I offer a long held conviction for consideration.
Having witnessed dignity and magnaminity, withstand brutality and humiliation, I began, all those years ago, to express the opinion, that this country owes an undeclared gratitude to those, who have risen above their exploitation, by America's history.
Please examine, the long histories of retribution, passed from generation to generation, common elsewhere, and imagine if that was common here as well. Even after WWI and WWII, when significant numbers of mistreated minorities, even while serving this county, returned, trained and armed, to continued mistreatment, yet did not resort to violence.
Just as America didn't thank and respect their service, we have not thanked or respected them for their forgiveness and restraint.
I became aware of this in the early 50's, when I married a man from Northern Ireland, and had reason to contrast responses, to histories of grievence.
Could we not take our share of contribution, to the words utter in a portion of Rev. Wright's sermon, and find it within ourselves, to express a long belated recognition and appreciation for the restraint, that has contributed so much, to the stability of our society, and the quality of life, the rest of us have been the benefactors of?
I publicly say to Rev. Wright and his congregation, now, as I have said to others, these many years: "Thank you all for the greatness of soul, I humbly pray I might be capable of myself."
It helps me to rewatch "Eyes on the Prize," every Lenten season, and be reminded that I should strive to do the same. I am deeply inspired by the power of love and forgiveness, demonstrated by others.
I hold out my hand and hope the effort to overcome continues.
With Love and sincerity,
Beverly McCann
Posted by: Beverly McCann | March 23, 2008 5:26 PM
Dear. Washingtonpost.com,
Thank you for allowing people to publish these posts anonymously and freely. This truly is free speech. Sorry if so many SHOUT, are intentionally and enthusiastically offensive, or disguise their posts as if coming from another view. That's what you get in a free world: abuse. But it seems to harm no one (except from blood pressure rising) and shows the true hearts of many posters. That a few choose to enter deliberate, well considered posts is the embodiment of hope.
Posted by: Some pithy reference | March 23, 2008 5:26 PM
Vaddabout alla gud t'ings Hillary's dood?
Posted by: Wm. Sloan Coffin IV | March 23, 2008 05:23 PM
Yes, she was a very polished first lady. We should anoint her Entitled Politician of the Year!
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians | March 23, 2008 5:26 PM
Richardson has made a bad deal. He may think he will be our next vice-president, but instead, he will be remembered as a politician who endorsed a losing candidate at the last minute, in order to further his own reputation and career.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 5:26 PM
Does anyone know the average IQ of the clinton supporters?. I would guess it to be less than 50.
Posted by: Rose | March 23, 2008 5:26 PM
Obama and his ewndosors are a bunch of loosers. They are jealous of Clinton's successes and they could not handle the fact being sidelined. They want a new BLACK kid so thay can appear to be important on the block! Obama is a traitor and will be a bigger traitor of the United States. His endorsors are not putting America's interests first.
Posted by: TruAmerican | March 23, 2008 5:27 PM
Re: "He [Richardson] grabbed it, although it meant sacrificing the Clintons who virtually made his career in earlier years by helping him get cushy appointments."
First of all, you don't know if Obama offered Richardson anything. Secondly, Bill Richardson had been in Congress for 14 years before Clinton appointed him to anything. And I guess you think negotiating face to face with Saddam Hussein for the release of American hostages is a cushy appointment.
Give me a break. I'm tired of Hillary supporters smearing anybody who supports Obama. It won't work. Hillary is till behind in delagates.
Posted by: Michelle | March 23, 2008 5:27 PM
I COULD THINK OF A LOTS HISPANIC DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS, THAT ARE FAR MUCH BETTER PERSONS THAN RICHARSON
AND FAR MUCH BETER POLITICIANS
HE IS NOT THE LAST CCOLA IN THE DESERT
Posted by: STORY | March 23, 2008 5:27 PM
Dave? Dave?
Posted by: Friends of Dave | March 23, 2008 5:28 PM
HRC campaign definition of Denial - having an insurmountable lead in delegates, winning more superdelegates since super tuesday, having an insurmountable lead in the popular vote, leading in the Gallup Poll even after a week of heavy rotation of Wright's out of context comments - faith footnotes, having Pinocchio as an opponent, and still thinking that there is a slight chance that you are going to win
Posted by: UncleRemus | March 23, 2008 5:28 PM
I think Richardson's jealousy showed when he stated he was tired of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton and then it was someone else's time.
Wasn't it Richardson who chided Edwards and Obama for being negative in th msnbc debate? His memory is short. Doesn't he say Bill didn't say anything controversal Friday and then watched the general call Clinton MacCarthy like. Come on you sheep. How can you be so blind. Hell, this bonehead called his grandmother racist.
Posted by: Chief | March 23, 2008 5:28 PM
I like davidmwe's article citation, mostly because he doesn't seem to understand what it says.
http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=57
These Hillary people are trying so hard to spin everything they got themselves turned around. The Gallup poll has Obama up again, and the article davdmwe cited begins badly for Hillary and gets worse for her from there:
"Conclusion
Well, honestly, it looks tough for Clinton."
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 5:29 PM
The more I watch Obama, the more closely I study his words, the more I understand him, the more sure I am what a terrific President he will make.
Hateful people, cynics and doubters (many of whom are announcing themselves here in these blogs) will adjust after he wins.
JFK barely squeeked by in 1960 --- and he was up against Nixon. In hindsight, how difficult was THAT choice? When we look back, the vast majority can hardly believe Kennedy almost lost, and many ditrusted him and even hated him.
Kennedy turned out to be one of the most beloved and competent presidents ever. So will Obama be.
Posted by: skyriak | March 23, 2008 5:29 PM
The "theology" that Wright teaches at his church is nothing like Christianity as most people understand it. The brand of theology which Wright has been teaching Obama and the others at his church is called "black liberation theology." Wright admits this and it is stated on the church's website. Black theology is based upon the premise of the white oppressor against the black oppressed. This is why, for example, that Wright refers to Jesus as black, and his killers as white. This is the only way the story of Jesus fits within this brand of "theology." Rev. Wright cites James Cone, another proponent of black liberation theology, as his theological inspiration. Here are just a couple of James Cone's quotes: (1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." *** These teachings are fundamentally racist and divisive. Obama has chosen to belong to this racist church for 20 years, and now because of exposure by the press, he tries to fool the American public once again.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 5:29 PM
You Clinton nuts amaze me. How is she going to unite the country when she tears her own party apart?
Posted by: Tommo | March 23, 2008 5:29 PM
HE IS NOT THE LAST CCOLA IN THE DESERT? What does that mean?
Posted by: TruAmerican | March 23, 2008 5:29 PM
If Obama loses to McCain in November, I believe that it will all be a result of the Clinton campaign's attacks. It is sad, that I went from having 2 great candidates to choose from to having the Clinton monster who endorsed McCain and a bloodied candidate who was brought down by someone in his own party.
Posted by: Henry S. | March 23, 2008 5:31 PM
Hey Diane, I have news for you, Obama is not a great American! Anyone condeming America while running for president is NEVER a great American! People who compare Obama to Luther King are utter idiots, even Luther King never condemned America when racism was openly alive. Currently the only racists I see today are Obama, his minister, his church, and his campaign! If you want to end racism, Don't vote for the biggest racist in America today-that is Obama and his campaign!
Posted by: american hero | March 23, 2008 5:31 PM
Obama has the Audacity to Hope that we are all stupid enough to forget that he lied about NAFTA, that he lies about his "continual" opposition to the Iraq war, that he plays the race card whenever things get too hot (for which he was busted by Tim Russert in one of the debates), that he is uncomfortably close to the indicted slumlord Rezko, that he has been going to a church for 20 years whose racist and anti-American pastor he calls his "mentor and spiritual advisor," that he has been exposing his innocent children to this hate speech for most of their lives, that he will throw his own grandmother under the bus to further his goals, and that he is now trying his best to disenfranchise millions of voters in Michigan and Florida to further his political ambitions. Yes, he has the Audacity to Hope . . .
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 5:32 PM
There's a simple solution to the Democratic Party's dilemma. All the party has to do is to hearken back to ancient traditions, and bring back human sacrifice. Howard Dean would be a good offering to the gods, and hardly anyone would miss him.
Posted by: sailhardy | March 23, 2008 5:32 PM
Supporters from both sides need to lighten up.
I'm reading a lot of "if he/she wins the nomination, I'm voting for McCain". Really? Because of the blow hards working on BOTH campaigns?
So, you're so ticked off about the primaries that you'd rather have another 4-years of the Bush-Iraq policy? Of the Bush-Economic policy?
How many more wounded and killed soldiers in Iraq are you willing to overlook because you're too miffed at either campaign to cast a vote to stop trying to find military solutions to political/diplomatic problems?
When I vote in November, it'll be on the issues. And quite frankly, these two candidates aren't that dissimilar.
And those who would vote the other way out of petty spite do a huge dis-service to the MANY who have suffered under Bush's policies and will continue to suffer if those policies are permitted to continue.
Posted by: MIke | March 23, 2008 5:32 PM
I like davidmwe's "article" citation, mostly because he doesn't understand what it says.
http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=57
These Hillary people are trying so hard to spin everything they got themselves turned around. The Gallup poll has Obama up again, and the article davdmwe cited begins badly for Hillary and gets worse for her from there:
"Conclusion
Well, honestly, it looks tough for Clinton."
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 5:32 PM
Apparently the war room is back up and running, but with lower paid bloggers.
Posted by: justicat | March 23, 2008 5:32 PM
Vote for Hillary, vote for Hillary, vote for Hillary.
Posted by: mille | March 23, 2008 5:32 PM
Hear, hear. Bill speaks the truth. Carville's comparing Bill's endorsement of Obama with Judas' betrayal of Hillary only confirms that her aides view her as divinely entitled to the nomination and presidency. Being so zealous in their convictions, it is no wonder that they will stoop to any level in order to secure her birthright.
Posted by: ChuckB | March 23, 2008 5:33 PM
Bill Clinton is a cheater and lire, but Hillary is only a lire. Obama is honest and open. He is once in a life time leader. My vote is for Obama.
Posted by: jimjus | March 23, 2008 5:33 PM
Obama will be the president for all Americans. more! he will be the first American president for the world. The failed foreign & economic policies of the GOP will be left on the wayside and forgotten. America will forge ahead redeemed and united, with Obama at helm.
Posted by: Julian | March 23, 2008 5:34 PM
I am a Canadian. If I can vote i will vote for Hillary.
Posted by: AnaI | March 23, 2008 5:34 PM
I am a Canadian. If I can vote i will vote for Hillary.
Posted by: AnaI | March 23, 2008 5:34 PM
Here at More White Women in the White House, we like Hillary because even thought she is an "oil tanker full of scum," she is not Reverend Wright, she is not a "fat, hairy Mexican who needs to wax his back," and she s not a "fraud" of a "Chicago Politician" like "nobama." Hillary saved Ireland and drinks Schmidt beer just like the rest of us. Above all she's an Entitled Politician for More Entitled Politicians. She's not "Dave" and she's a "TruAmerican."
We love you Hillary. You can crash your boatload of scum into our shores any time!
Posted by: More White Women in the White Housee | March 23, 2008 5:35 PM
After hearing Rev. Wright's black militant type of preaching, I think Obama has either very poor judgement to stay with him for 20 years or is just like him. I'll go with a sure thing. Hillary 08
Posted by: Deb | March 23, 2008 5:36 PM
I think two or three more high profile endorsements like the one of Gov. Richardson for Barak Obama, and the Hillary Clinton's campaign will collapse. They are in such a disarray. John Edwards, where are you?
It is still time for the Clintons to work for the unity of the party.
Posted by: An Academic | March 23, 2008 5:36 PM
Wow, everyone is so angry. We're all Democrats! We need to unite behind a candidate, whether it's Hillary or Obama. When it comes to their political views, they're not that different. Personally I prefer Obama's style, but I would vote for Hillary in the general election even though I can't stand her personality *because it is the policies which truly matter most*. Let's choose a candidate quick, so we can support them and elect a Democrat to the Presidency!
Posted by: Rainer | March 23, 2008 5:36 PM
Taking from Shakespeare, Obama has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much; such men are dangerous... He works the huge crowds as if they were sheep,easily led in whichever way pleases him. Bill Richardson said it was the "Speech on Race" which clinched it for him. I believe him. He is under the spell as are so many others. They can't for the life of them think for themselves. Pastor Wright's exhortations woke some people up, but Obama quickly brought his sheep back into his pasture. He can spin a yarn! My hope is that Hillary will stay in this race till the end.
Posted by: BARD08 | March 23, 2008 5:36 PM
Taking from Shakespeare, Obama has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much; such men are dangerous... He works the huge crowds as if they were sheep,easily led in whichever way pleases him. Bill Richardson said it was the "Speech on Race" which clinched it for him. I believe him. He is under the spell as are so many others. They can't for the life of them think for themselves. Pastor Wright's exhortations woke some people up, but Obama quickly brought his sheep back into his pasture. He can spin a yarn! My hope is that Hillary will stay in this race till the end.
Posted by: BARD08 | March 23, 2008 5:36 PM
HILLARY: PLEASE, get a little class for once in your life, and GO AWAY !!
Your chances of getting the nomination are zilch. Save yourself $$$ millions. Save the Democratic Party from going down the drain.
PLEASE, go back to New York, or better yet, Arkansas, and LEAVE US ALONE !!
Posted by: Ingri
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Did you mention class? I don't think you know what the word means. Or are you talking about the class Obama showed comparing his grandmother racism to Rev. Wright racism. You might spend time using a dictionary before using a word. Kinda like Obama, nice words but not much meaning.
It's called BS.
Posted by: Chief | March 23, 2008 5:37 PM
Anyone would be better than Bush, including McCain. Bush has messed things up so badly, I never could have believed one president could do so much damage to everything, the environment, the economy, the cost of health care, the educational system, the image of America around the world, the military, the cost of gasoline. I was never ashamed of being an American until this president sold America down the river, so the rich could get even richer while the rest of America becomes poorer. Down with Bush, elect a monkey and things couldn't get any worse.
Posted by: Tony Davis | March 23, 2008 5:37 PM
Jim Jus, Hillary is not a lire, nore is she a lyre. I think the word you're looking for is liar.
Posted by: First Black President (s) Against More Black Presidents | March 23, 2008 5:37 PM
Jim Jus, Hillary is not a lire, nore is she a lyre. I think the word you're looking for is liar.
Posted by: First Black President (s) Against More Black Presidents | March 23, 2008 5:37 PM
HRC campaign definition of Negative Attack = The Truth
Fair Attack - an assertion that deliberately distorts your opponents position
National Campaign - the summation of the campaigns in the states we deem important
Rules - Guidelines to follow when you are winning and be outraged against when you are not.
Disenfranchised Voters - people who voted for me in contests I said did not count
Fair - a contest in which only my name is on the ballot
Posted by: UncleRemus | March 23, 2008 5:38 PM
Clinging to the Obama smear seems the only life preserver left for those who seem to be terrified of changing the face of American power. We've gone through several Republican administrations where the first thing to go is equal treatment under the law (Office of Civil Rights), a weakend EPA, and rampant government spending. What choice do we have? Elect business as usual with Hillary's constant accomodation of whatever seems to be in vogue? McCain offer's what, continuation of the war, recessionist politics favoring the wealthy (whose life span now reflects the people who really count) from someone who can't remember what he's talking about. Experience? Is that what got George Bush elected? People are so afraid of the obvious choice because he looks black. I am afraid that if we don't elect someone who has demonstrated he is not about business as usual (voted against the war) we will see just how completely backward the politics of white privilege and white fear can be. Let's face it, this country's greatness is no longer in the hands of the usual cast of characters. That's terrifying. People of color are not evil unless you continue to villify blacks and pursue blind immigration policies. Your choice.
Just compare our lives through the basic quality of life indicators with any other industrialized nation. It will bring into perspective this campaign where our average citizens are seen as having no value except an ignorant vote.
Posted by: mark | March 23, 2008 5:38 PM
Well, as a life long Republican, gone Independent because of this kind of behavior... all I can say is that it is causing me to look at how this is being raged ...not waged...but raged today, by two people that I had once respected.
It makes me sad to think there are no really decent people left to lead this great country.
Posted by: dmadbass | March 23, 2008 5:38 PM
democrats must ask themselves when they go and vote. do you want 4 more years of white water monica l.and all of that other garbage. if you vote for her thats what your gonna get. we will relive that whole bunch of cr***p. i think she and he should ride off in the sunset and enjoy what time they have left in retirement.
Posted by: george t | March 23, 2008 5:38 PM
The Horse Laughing Carpet Munching Dike should take a Hike.
Posted by: Don | March 23, 2008 5:39 PM
Well, I have news for you, Henry. Obama has never condemned America. He is a great American. His pastor, who most of you know only through slanted soundbites, gave service to thousands of people on the southside of Chicago. This pastor also served his country as a marine and was invited to the Clinton White House. He also was present during Lyndon Johnson's surgery. By the way, Obama became a Christian because of him and also was at his church with the people he was helping as a community organizer. I defy you to find any antiAmerican rhetoric from Obama. How dare you judge a person by his church or a pastor from a few soundbites. You, my friend, need to examine your own heart.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 5:40 PM
I could never support Obama because he is a radical Muslim extremist. Richardson is a loser Latino that bit the hand that fed him. I am a Republican and I gave Hillary money because she does deserve the Presidency more than a Black man that used crack.
Posted by: Jim Krowel | March 23, 2008 5:40 PM
In this country above all others, why should Hillary drop out, why does she not have the right to stay in? In America, everybody gets to vote. Not some, not most, everyone. Why do Americans in Pennsylvania, NC, and all the other states who have not yet voted in the primary not get the right to vote, to choose who they want as their nominee? Why? I'll tell you why, because Obama is ahead now and Obama and his supporters are afraid that if all of America gets to vote, he won't get the nomination.
In America, we don't call the game late in the third quarter, just because one team has a lead. We play the game until the very end, giving our all the whole way. And we count all the votes, not just some of them.
Posted by: MoralProtagonist | March 23, 2008 5:40 PM
Trust the Democrats to implode. Trust the Republicans not at all. This election is a tragic missed opportunity already.
Posted by: DFC | March 23, 2008 5:41 PM
Obama and his campaign in the past week has tried SERIOUS WAG THE DOG TACTICS, they are "TYPICALLY" DESPERATE:
1. First, they release a photo of one of America's best Presidents, the great William Jefferson Clinton (a.k.a. Bubba) with IMPASTOR-Rev. Wrong. Big deal, a President of the U.S. meets/greets many people during his/her term. The photo also shows Bubba doesn't scare away from black people unlike the cabbie that passes by.
Question here is did he spend 20 years at his church listening to divisive hate speech. Was he married in his church? Were his children baptized by this hate monger?
Obama claims innocence, but he and his campaign's tactics are TYPICALLY very dirty, TYPICAL of a morally CORRUPT Politician whose message of uniting One America now proving to be a lie! I HAVE LOST ALL RESPECT for OBAMA as he continues to TRULY PLAY DIVISIVE POLITICS!
2. Second, with this b.s. passport breach news. I'm sure they knew of this long ago, but, Obama's campaign tried to use it as a way to sway attention away from his IMPASTOR. It turns out all 3 candidates had their passports breached. Big deal, unless one of them made a trip to Cuba, Libya or some other restriced place???
Obama: Any videos out there with Chavez???
3. Also this past week, they get this ZERO Bill Richardson to endorse Obama. Et tu Brute? All this "overweight lover in the house" does is occupy latitudes and longitudes. Richardson was a day late and a dollah short or should I say a PESO short, getting this UNLOYAL JUDAS' endorsement is like having PESOS in your pocket, that is CHANGE that is not worth much at all!
4. In the meanwhile this BAMA has no problem throwing his grandmother under the Hawaiian Pineapple Tree...reminds me of a classic song usually heard during the holiday season:
"Grandma got run over by a reindeer, walking home from our house Christmas Eve, you can say there's no such thing as Santa, but, as for Obama and his IMPASTOR they believe!"
Re: BILL RICHARDSON.
A. What a ZERO, pandering for a V.P. position, staying quiet not endorsing either candidate till he thought Obama would prevail in Texas and Ohio, then, calling for Hillary to quit the race when it was still virtually tied before the people had a chance to speak in Texas and Ohio.
B. Zero because Bill Richardson picked up all of ZERO delegates when he bowed out of the race just before his state's (New Mexico) caucus, because he did not want to be embarrassed in his own state. He didn't have the "cojones" to continue, Hillary does, she wears the "Pant-Suit"!
C. Bill Richardson is a former Clintonista, un-grateful and dis-loyal after Bubba put him on the map. Nobody wants him as a V.P., because being overweight, he is only good to occupy latitudes and longitudes on that map that Bill C. put him on! "HE is the overweight lover in the house, the house...!"
D. Richardson is a wannabe latino (one could not tell from his name) who started to market himself as one after it became fashionable to be "livin' the vida loca"!
I wonder if he can even speak the language (Spanish) properly? He can't, heard his endorsement he used a few phrases in Spanish, his accent sucks and his Spanish vocabulary is limited.
E. Bill Richardson's endorsement is like having PESOS in your pocket, CHANGE that is not worth very much!
F. Who was he (Richardson) to tell Hillary to quit the race when there was still "time left on the clock"? That would be March Madness! Americans are not quitters, it's just not the American way. Hillary is a great American and she will be a great President!
God Bless America, God Bless America, God Bless America. Yes, yes, yes, I said it, it's right there in the bible, the 2nd word is BLESS, let me repeat it: GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Posted by: cheersdk | March 23, 2008 5:41 PM
Richardson is full of crap. With friends like him, who needs enemies. Back stabbin bastard. Does he really think Obama is going to pick a two faced jerk as his running mate? He's proved his disloyalty, only an idiot would trust him now.
Posted by: JR | March 23, 2008 5:41 PM
I don't think Obama agrees with the views of Reverend Wright. How could he? Obama is the son of an African immigrant who went to Harvard and a white American mother. Obama has no ancestors who were slaves or who suffered through Jim Crow. He's got nothing to complain about.
He just went to that church because he had to be politically viable in South Chicago. Just like John McCain has to get the endorsement of crazies like Robertson.
Posted by: MB | March 23, 2008 5:42 PM
I am a Canadian. If I can vote i will vote for Hillary.
Posted by:Anal
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You sure you are not an Obamanite. Name kind of sounds Omamanian. I'll have to say you sound more intelligent than most Obamanites.
Posted by: Chief | March 23, 2008 5:44 PM
I used to be one of millions who thought Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton would of been the dream ticket.
After everything we are fiding out about Obama...I can no longer in good conscious vote for him.
He has turned out be a liar and a supporter of hatred, racism and anti-american views. I can never forgive him for defending a pastor that insinuated the victims of 911...twin towers, pentagon and Pennsylvania deserved what they got.
I am AMERICAN first above anything.......so I will have to vote for the person I believe has Americas best interest at heart.
That is NOT Obama.
I just hope the DNC and super delegates realizes that the majority of Democrats feel the same way and if Obama gets the nomination we will lose the election.
Posted by: ann | March 23, 2008 5:44 PM
At least Gov. Richardson has been paying attention to how bad the HRC campaign has been.
Oh, and gary: The admonition of "hip-hop, gangsta and street culture" is a little off the mark, since it's primary consumer is young white males in suburbia.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 5:45 PM
At least Gov. Richardson has been paying attention to how bad the HRC campaign has been.
Oh, and gary: The admonition of "hip-hop, gangsta and street culture" is a little off the mark, since it's primary consumer is young white males in suburbia.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 5:45 PM
Richardson is a sell out and Obama has associated himself with an extremist for 20 YEARS! I do not want that in MY White House!! Unfortunately, the Democrats will find out too late that Obama should NOT be the nominee at the expense of Michigan and Florida.. I know I am changing my political affiliation, if Hillary is not chosen. I will vote for McCain!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 5:45 PM
dmadbass, welcome to Entitled Politicians For More Entitled Politicians. Your Republican Party background and your lack of any sense of humor qualify you to free admission to out "Meet Up" next week, where we will be addressing the topic of "Which Entitled Politicians are an Oil Tanker full of Scum and Which Are Not" lead by "Dave." Al G***, the "President Whom We Dare Not Mention" will be a guest speaker by iphone. Hope you can make it!
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians | March 23, 2008 5:45 PM
All of us are capable of hearing truth that comes from the heart. Mr. Richardson said he sees something special in Obama that comes once in a lifetime. Listen to what Obama says. He truly loves this country, and has no sense of entitlement to the presidency. He want to help us come together. You can tell by his sincerity that he wants to help this country. I can see this. I know if others look and listen to his message without contempt prior to investigation, they will hear and see his sincerity. We haven't had someone run for the presidency with his kind of vision and charisma for a long, long time. We need to have a person like Obama to look to for inspiration and hope for this country.
Posted by: Patrick | March 23, 2008 5:46 PM
A broad sampling of the comments here suggests the American people deserve Hillary Clinton as president. This is a historic opportunity to actually change the course of the country and its policies - but the most vocal constituency prefers business as usual, and a president historic only for her gender.
That's assuming that if she got the nomination, that she wouldn't be soundly bounced by John McCain, which I believe she would. It likely wouldn't make much difference, because John McCain would be only marginally worse.
America is circling the rim of the bowl. It only needs Hillary (or McCain) at the helm to send it into the toilet for good. But all the yellers want Hillary. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Posted by: Mark | March 23, 2008 5:47 PM
The amount of animosity is incredible. If the Democrats don't learn to hang together, we will hang alone. I am from New Mexico, and I would like to note that, yes, Hillary did win New Mexico, by about 1,500 votes, out of 150,000 cast. I don't think that obligates Bill Richardson to endorse her. By her own accounting, he should endorse the person he thinks will make the best president. I think he held out for as long as he did out of loyalty to the Clintons.
The fact is, Obama is likely to get the Democratic nomination, and for the Democrats who didn't support him, you all need to come together. We are headed for a big recession, brought on by market deregulation of mortgages, security derivatives and other Republican get rich quick schemes, along with a trillion dollars down the toilet in the Iraq War, not mention the lives, limbs and young minds lost or damaged. Have you not had enough?
Posted by: Carl Friedrichs III MD | March 23, 2008 5:47 PM
At this point I make the dire prediction that the 2 dinosaurs McCain ( tyrannosaurus rex )and Lieberman ( pterodacxtyl )..( his likely running mate) , have it in the bag.. Obama's foolish decision to stick with his angry, race obsessed minister, and the Clinton's determination to win at all costs.. even if it destroys the Democratic Party.. are in effect paving the way to the White House for McCain.. a war obsessed old man who's sure to keep us in Iraq ( and Iran ? ) for the forseeable future, and who admittedly knows nothing about the economy, which is rapidly sliding into a Depression.. 4-8 more years of dysfunction and incompetence !!! What a way to choose a President ! God help us !!!
Posted by: spiritguide | March 23, 2008 5:49 PM
Sure Hillary sees a bump after the Wright fiasco.
The negativity from her camp is hurting her and Obama, but most of all the party.
Posted by: juked | March 23, 2008 5:49 PM
Richardson is a man of integrety because he decided to support the best candidate. He did not allow himself to be strongarmed by the Clintons. They don't own him. That took a lot of courage and integrity on his part. For James to call him a Judas is just another example of gutter politics.
Posted by: Diane | March 23, 2008 5:50 PM
I still looking for HRC to be vetted. Most of the reports coming out, if they are true, have more pinnochios then most people that are being vetted.
I really like the one in Bosnia of being under attach when she arrived. Or, the one about how she brokered the Ireland agreement with Great Britain. What about the issue that she was in the White House on the day Bill was with Monica!
Posted by: jerry rubin | March 23, 2008 5:50 PM
It is hard to believe that Bill Clinton wasn't attacking Obams's patriotism. Otherwise, what else was he talking about? As for as I know, the nominees for President from each party have all been patriotic in recent elections. Bush I had a long career of public service, Dole gave an arm, Kerry served in Vietnam, and no one has ever accused Al Gore or George W. of not being patriotic. Unless Clinton is talking about himself having ducked the military, who else is he talking about?
Posted by: Waybelted | March 23, 2008 5:51 PM
Bravo to Bill Richardson for being honest. Hillary Clinton seems to fight dirty, she gets mad when she's losing, her marriage apparently is a political arrangement?, and now she berates Richardson for speaking his mind, going with his heart. (And how many of her votes are from Republicans trying to skew the Deomocratic race, by the way?) I try to get past the petty barbs, politics as usual, but it's hard to miss her "Dirty Tricks" campaign tactics. Please resolve the fight one way or the other soon, can't afford another 4 years of the current mess.
Posted by: Lois West | March 23, 2008 5:54 PM
After knowing who the kinds of people Obama hangs out with, and socializes with, I have concluded that a person like that has VERY bad decision making skills. Do we need a president like this? Bush was the worst president in history, now with obama I am not sure bush would keep that title.... I'm not a white person, but if I were, I'd think twice about endorsing such a racist, hating individual. Specially after all the negative things he said about his very own parents and grandparents that raised him, who put him through the very best in life, not even his own biological parents wanted him. Yet he has more love for them than those that took care of him simply because of the color of their skin. Obama is what Martin Luther King was against!
Posted by: just a guy | March 23, 2008 5:54 PM
Dear "Chief,"
We read with concern your words as follows:
"You sure you are not an Obamanite. Name kind of sounds Omamanian. I'll have to say you sound more intelligent than most Obamanites."
The Committee for Racial Reconciliation would like to invite you, Chief, to avoid using Native American associations on your logins (unless you are Native American) and in that case may you recieve many of Creator's blessings.
Similarly references to Obamanites and Omamanian written to Anil have been determined to be vaguely racist and decidedly non global and jingoistic in approach.
On this Easter Sunday when God and the Easter Bunny are paying close attention to our word and deeds, please know that unless you wish to be smitten by Sodomites or turned in to a pillar of salt you should try to be more kind to your fellow planetary citizens while we still have an atmosphere to breath.
Regards,
Dave
World Committee for Racial Reconciliation
Posted by: Committee for Racial Reconciliation | March 23, 2008 5:55 PM
i think obama did very well in his speech last week. it reminded me of bill clinton's defense in the monica lewinsky case. to me, he is looking more like a bill clinton part 2 without the negatives. i'm shifting grudgingly from hillary. obama's the man.
Posted by: nonoyd | March 23, 2008 5:55 PM
If Obama didn't believe in the views of Pastor Wright...he wouldn't be using phrases like "typical white person"
Obama has shown to be a hypocrite and untrustworthy.
He has succeeded in dividing this country with his b.s.
Posted by: mary | March 23, 2008 5:55 PM
This election should not be about fear or about religions... it should be about changes.
CHANGES...
The government is disfunctional since decades. Many big projets that are needed require drastic changes in the way of doing politics. Republicans, independents and democracts need to work together. The Clintons have been polirizing figures in the '90s. Bush II has also been a polirizing figure. The governement is disfunctional and people's empowerment must be enhanced. Obama has practical experience of this. As a community organizer, he has worked in the street directly with people. He has also an history of working with republicans since he was a senator in Illinois. And his campaign is inclusive, not divisive.
FEAR...
Obama's opponents are playing the fear cards: What about his middle name? he must be a terrorist... What about his religion? he must be a muslim... What about his skin color? he must be half human... What about his patriotism?... he must be too much a citizen of the world...
As FDR said: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". The political establishments and the voters should not be afraid of changes. We are the product of changes.
RELIGIONS...
This election should also not be about religions, but the it might help to a better understanding of them. Countrary to some countries like Iran, in the U.S. there is, in principle, a separation of religion and politics. Preachers are supposed to put God's issues before political issues. And one of God's commandment is that "one shall not murder". During the the Bush-McCain-Clinton war in Iraq, the U.S. has murdered prisonners after torturing them. When Saddam was an ally against Iran, the U.S. closed its eyes on a genocide against the kurdes that killed thousands of children and women (secretary of states Rumfeld at that time was meeting with Saddam giving him his benediction to solidify the alliance against Iran). There are too many examples of this type. Many preachers from the right and from the left can often not close their eyes on these types of events without criticizing the politics responsibles for them. Those who do close their eyes are not men of God, they are politicians.
Posted by: Logan | March 23, 2008 5:56 PM
Freedom of speech and freedom of vote.
We have chose, for whom we want.
With the "race remarks" like Bill Clintons, and personal attacks "Muslim" attacks
Hillary lost it, in my corner. Disgusting!
Making the democrats look bad.
She only wants to break a record to be the first women president. I am women would love to see it happen, but not with one! No way.
Free to chose!
Posted by: Dee | March 23, 2008 5:56 PM
If the Dems. treated primaries like the Repbs,winner take all Hillary would be in already and Obama would havdelots of time to spend in church.Polls show that Hillary is beating McCain badly in every important state and Obama is trailing.
Posted by: roncraw | March 23, 2008 5:56 PM
If the Dems. treated primaries like the Repbs,winner take all Hillary would be in already and Obama would havdelots of time to spend in church.Polls show that Hillary is beating McCain badly in every important state and Obama is trailing.
Posted by: roncraw | March 23, 2008 5:56 PM
I don't agree with the notion that true Democrats have to support him.
The polls right now attest to the fact that Democrats didn't buy the speech, didn't like the disenengousness of a campaign based on superficialities, appearances, didn't like the pomposity.
Liberal Dems are selling him like he's the end all cure, and Hillary should leave the race; they want her out, because they're afraid of what just happened..his numbers are going down.
The media may not be able to save him now, though they sure are trying, CNN especially; despite the media spin in his favor, the public isn't buying it...
And they're the ones that elect, though the media sure is trying to take that priviledge away.
Yes, the public needs more avenues to speak out against the media and the parties.
That's what a Democracy is. We certainly weren't heard from for the last 8 years, e.g, the Cheney comment in response to that's not how the public feels and he said, "So what!"
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 5:56 PM
Happy Easter all.
Posted by: Easter Bunny | March 23, 2008 5:58 PM
If you guys think Bill Clinton's milquetoast jab at Obama's pride in America was harsh, just wait until the fall when the independent expenditure groups have free reign. Clinton, both HIllary and Bill, are shackled with some degree of party loyalty. The independent groups will not be.
Obama's association with Jeremiah Wright, his unwillingness to denounce Wright and even Michelle Obama's "first time I'm proud of America" comments will be blasted daily on the airways. And rightly or wrongly, it will resonate with the voters.
Obama may have, in his own mind and in the minds of African American voters, explained his 20 year association with Wright, but American voters will not elect a president with this background, especially not in these times.
Posted by: Moral Protagonist | March 23, 2008 5:58 PM
Bill Richardson is extraordinarily disengenuous. Richardson campaigned against Obama as not having enough experience to be President, but has now decided apparently that experience isn't so important as "something special." Richardson accuses Clinton's campaign of practicing "gutter" politics, when Obama has been doing it since day one?... LOL. Richardson is loyal to Clinton, but doesn't like the campaign being run by her advisors -- has Richardson met Obama's Axelrod?...another LOL. James Carvill probably had it right about the pieces of gold ... We should all wonder what Obama has promised Richardson in return for the endorsement!?
Posted by: mo897 | March 23, 2008 6:01 PM
"I am AMERICAN first above anything"
Posted by: ann | March 23, 2008 05:44 PM
I'm human first. And like all humans when someone lies to your face without skipping a beat. I don't like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c
Say what you will Obama is NOT Rev. Wright as much as you want him to be. Conversely Hillary is NOT Bill Clinton. They are four separate human beings.
And if you are going to single out people who said America deserved 9/11, you should be protesting Pat Robertson too if you are going to be consistent.
Posted by: UncleRemus | March 23, 2008 6:02 PM
My husband is hispanic. My son recently returned safely from his second deployment. We are tired of the way this country has been run and don't need another Clinton. Obama is a breath of fresh air and the candidate we have chosen to support. He is the only candiate that can bring this great country together.
Obama 08
Posted by: hopeful | March 23, 2008 6:03 PM
You can count on the Clintons. They will be there when they need you.
Posted by: Bill Walker | March 23, 2008 6:04 PM
I'm "one of those typical white women" Obama talks about and I would cross the street if I saw Obama coming in my direction, absolutely!! Yet I will sit in my Catholic church by a nice young black lady and share my prayer book and chat with her gladly. Our priest does not say "God da-- America" or the crap about 911 or aids. Obama is a liar (NAFTA, REZO,), as is his wife. How did he acquire his large mansion - the lot next to his had to be bought at the same time. Who purchased that lot? He's been listening to Wright's evil statements about America for all these years and he says he did not hear some. BS
Posted by: love234america | March 23, 2008 6:04 PM
I will vote against the Clintons (and James Carville) here in Lititz PA on April 22nd.
Posted by: Jim | March 23, 2008 6:04 PM
I've had it. I'm coming back from the dead.
Posted by: Jesus H. Christ | March 23, 2008 6:05 PM
Obama's supporters will forgive him for anything.
If Obama was found in bed with a dead girl, they'd say she died of happiness.
If Obama was found in bed with a live boy they'd say Obama cured his leprosy.
They're in love.
Never fall in love with a politician.
They'll break your heart every time.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 6:05 PM
Referring to his wife Hillary and Senator John McCain, former President Bill Clinton, said, "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics." This is typical of the vile which constantly spews from the mouths of the self-righteous and self-loving Clinton's. The constant drone that chameleon Hillary Clinton is electable in any general election, much less than she is more electable than Senator Obama is laughable. Clinton gets no independent voters, no crossover Republican voters, and the Clinton's Barack to the back of the bus campaign has guaranteed that if she should steal the Democrat nomination, African-Americans, progressives and other Democrats who are sickened by the sixteen years of Bush-Clinton hate mongering and divisiveness will either stay home or support the lesser of two evils, John McCain. Senator McCain maybe a misguided soul; you have to consider his age and background when listening to his perplexing statements, much as you do Reverend Wright, but at least McCain has a soul, Hillary Clinton does not. Former President Clinton's statement reveals the true Clinton mentality; they believe that American politics is like an exclusive country club where people of color and of the wrong religions are not admitted. Hillary and Senator McCain should be allowed to sit on the veranda, nursing their cool drinks as they discuss what is the next group of innocent Arabs and Persians which the United States should maim and kill. During the Bush-Clinton era, the wealthiest 1% of the country now has 80% of the wealth of the country. Clinton and McCain, if they didn't have to worry about this "other stuff" could be free to plot the complete destruction of the middle class in this country. Yes, indeed there is an intrusion into this exclusive club, an intrusion by those who want to reclaim sensibility and decency for America after the despicable and deplorable Bush-Clinton years. The Democrats do have a dream team; it is Barack Obama and Bill Richardson.
Posted by: Timmy Coffee | March 23, 2008 6:05 PM
Obama is a big cry baby, its is never about him but always about the clinton campaign, all that mouth he got he will put his foot in his mouth. he can't have it both ways, he have been with a preacher that was his mentor for 20 years,then turn his back on this preacher and act as if he has memory lost. please. why not face it he fool the american people with change and hope. what other lies is he carrying around. he is really scary to me, and this was the first time he open that big mouth of his.
Posted by: monique | March 23, 2008 6:06 PM
Mr Schumer wants to have his cake and eat it too.
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-NY.) said the Fed, and the Bush administration
overall, has not "done enough, and in fact, it shouldn't have come to this."
"Had the administration acted more proactively earlier, particularly about the housing crisis, when many of us were asking them to, we wouldn't have gotten up to this point," Schumer said. "And unfortunately, this administration has sort of a Herbert Hoover mentality -- don't do anything."
Mr Schumer is a member of the majority party in Congress. If as he claims, the Admisistration failed to act sooner, why did the Congressional Majority wait until now to speak up?
Why have Congressional Democrats holding the majority failed to propose legislation to address what it claims are shortcomings?
Fact of the matter is that when Democrats won the majority in Congress they did so promising "Change" in Washington.
Since Democrats won the majority in 2006, Congress has obstructed nearly every attempt the President has made to propose legislation based solely on partisan political objectives.
Congress just allowed tax cuts to expire at a time when businesses that relied those cuts to grow need them most.
Since 2006, Congress has denied approval of Federal Judges based solely of political partisanship and a desire to postpone appointments until after the November elections.
Congressional Democrats called for change, yet all the 'change' Americans have seen is for the worse.
In 2006, gasoline was around $2.50 a gallon, now it is approcahing $4.00 in parts of the country. The Democratic majority in Congress has chosen to sit and do nothing.
In 2006, consumer confidence was at an all time high, two years into the Democratic Party take over of Congress, and confidence is at an all time low. The Democratic majority in Congress has chosen to sit and do nothing.
In 2006, the economy was healthy, today, we are fighting inflation, facing a recession, and huge job losses across the country. The Democratic majority in Congress has chosen to sit and do nothing.
So exactly what have Democrats accomplished in the way of change which they promised in 2006?
Seems to me that America has seen none of the change that Democrats promised when they campaigned for and won the majority in Congress.
Democrats have chosen to play opposition politics instead - believing that if they do nothing, then nothing is their fault.
Seems to me the only accomplishment Democrats have made since taking the majority in Congress is to approve yet another big fat pay increase for themselves.
Apparently, the "change" Democrats referred to was the small change left over after taxes are taken out of Americans paychecks that they are expected to live on.
Posted by: RicRoe | March 23, 2008 6:06 PM
Its time to stop the resource wasting campaign, just amend the law so power is transferable from dad to son, and husband to wife, etc. Let those who gained experiences by heredity service the county. The rest politians are stupid by choice and they have no clue how to fight a war.
Posted by: justmakeitsimple | March 23, 2008 6:07 PM
Looks like the Dems are going to have a mutation at the core - a cell division. Hurrah for multi-party system. More choices.
Posted by: Kila -but | March 23, 2008 6:07 PM
Here's some irony for you - The Clinton Global Initiative, part of the Clinton Foundation, has secured partnerships for the following initiatives:
$271,000,000.00 over a 5-year period for educational opportunities for 7.5 million children in Africa and Asia.
$40,000,000.00 over 5 years for critical education needs for 3,000,000 girls in Africa.
$12,000,000.00 over 8 years to improve schooling and health outcomes for girls 10-14 in Southern Africa.
Maybe someone should tell Barack Obama that trying to label Bill Clinton a "racist" is contrary to everything he has ever done in his life, and is not only dishonest, it is disgusting.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 6:07 PM
Now we have a whole team against America... Barrack "anti-flag" Obabma, a "Who Cares" General, and a "Failed Politician" Richardson. Obamba is getting the retreads..Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson next Edwards all failed all have tired and old politics written all over them..,,,, This TWP will vote Democrat if given only one reason... Have not seen that yet...
Posted by: A TWP | March 23, 2008 6:07 PM
Bill Richardson was very generous when he said that he didn't think the former president meant to imply Barack was unpatriotic. This on the day after Clinton hatchet man James Carville called Richardson "Judas".
I'm not that generous.
For Lent this year I'm giving up
on Hillary.
Posted by: Paul Christian | March 23, 2008 6:07 PM
I wish people would stop excusing the racist, hateful words used by Obamas pastor.
You keep trying to pull an Obama tactic and want us to hear the whole sermon...as if that would forgive the hateful things he promotes.
Sorry...the values we use to protect the innoncent and victims of this world say that ONCE is enough. ONE hateful word is too many...ONE hateful act is too many...ONE time...of subjecting your child to such hateful words is enouh......then you do what most Americans would do...SAY NO to HATE and RACISM and WALK AWAY.
Obama chose to stay and help promote this abuse and hatred and subject his children to the same ugly rhetoric.
He can no longer claim to have good judgment or the best interest of America. He only serves and worships his OWN self interests.
Let's not forget that reason he defends Pastor Wright...is because he has taken an oath to follow the Black Value Systems of that church which dictate "Allegiance to all Black Leaders"
Need I say more...
America will vote NO for Obama in November.
Posted by: Ann | March 23, 2008 6:07 PM
The DemoKlown Party of retreat, despair, hopelessness and ambiguity will not defend you on USA soil either.
Posted by: S. Weneslaw | March 23, 2008 6:08 PM
Dear Bill Richardson,
You endorsed a candidate that gives fantastic speeches. However, Obama's political record does not match his speeches. He hides from controversy.
Let me count the ways:
1) In 1999, Obama skipped the vote about gun control in Illinois. He was on vacation in Hawaii.
2) In the Senate, he failed to hold any oversight hearings about Afghanistan. He was too busy running for President.
3) During the battle in Congress over the Immigration Bill, he put in minimum effort according to Congressional members.
4) He gave a fantastic speech about racism in America. However, for the last 20 years, he has done little to confront it until his campaign was forced to by Rev. Wright.
5) His entire time in the Senate has been calculated to run as President. He speaks about unity, but has no record to prove it.
6) He lied about Rezko. If I recall, he only completed 5 hours of legal work. However, Rezko has contributed $250,000 to his campaign and helped with the purchase of his house by buying the lot next door.
7) He voted "present" about 129 times in Illinois. Granted most Illinois politicians do this. However, his record deserves scrutiny because he his running for President. Voting present is an easy out to avoid being tagged with controversial voting bills.
You endorsed Obama because he is something new and inspiring in politics. However, Obama is losing the Latino voters and needs your help in this matter.
Governor Richardson, I have lost my respect for you.
Go Team Hillary!!!!
Posted by: EWard | March 23, 2008 6:09 PM
Whats the matter with you typical white persons? you...mostly midddle-aged and old ladies?
Our Barack can turn America a land of hope to which people from all over the world will flock
Posted by: Oh typical white persons | March 23, 2008 6:10 PM
Richardson, Who?
Posted by: Kano | March 23, 2008 6:10 PM
'Team Hillary' lost months ago. Get over it.
Posted by: B. T. Clown | March 23, 2008 6:10 PM
What Bill Richardson did is despicable. Not in the sense that he backed Obama but that he did it when he did it and how he did it. Of all the turn overs, this is the worse. There was no reason for him not to stay out of it and wait until June.
What he has done is fuel the anger among democrats and divide the party even more. This will hurt him and if anyone feels entitled to the presidency is not Hillary it is Barack Obama.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:11 PM
roncraw makes a good point. If the Democratic primaries mimicked the general election, as the GOP primaries do, Hillary would be ahead in electoral votes about 260 to 190. One only needs 270 to win the presidency. This is another reason Hillary has every right to stay in this race.
Remember the superdelegates were created to make sure the Democratic party puts forth the best candidate in the fall. Given HIllary's lead in electoral votes, the superdelegates should be looking closely at Hillary, not Obama.
Posted by: Moral Protagonist | March 23, 2008 6:11 PM
roncraw makes a good point. If the Democratic primaries mimicked the general election, as the GOP primaries do, Hillary would be ahead in electoral votes about 260 to 190. One only needs 270 to win the presidency. This is another reason Hillary has every right to stay in this race.
Remember the superdelegates were created to make sure the Democratic party puts forth the best candidate in the fall. Given HIllary's lead in electoral votes, the superdelegates should be looking closely at Hillary, not Obama.
Posted by: Moral Protagonist | March 23, 2008 6:11 PM
Hi,
I'm a typical white person and I'm voting for Barack Obama.
Posted by: Typical White Person | March 23, 2008 6:11 PM
Tamp down the Clintonistas or I'm afraid I'll have to put on my "Impeach McCain" bumper sticker.
Posted by: Sid, the white-shoe humanist | March 23, 2008 6:12 PM
The anger of the Obama groupies at Clinton is completely misplaced. For months now, since Iowa, although he has won many delegates, Obama has made one irretrievable mistake after another. He lost me and many others when he took the easy road and made himself the "racial identity" candidate to African Americans, and the "expiate your historical sins" candidate to extremely liberal white voters. The failure of his ultimate campaign to the general voters is inherent in the easy approach he has taken. Had he run simply on the strength of talent and ideas, he may have won myself and many others over to his side (I never wanted to vote for Clinton, or for McCain). It is much too late for Obama- the seeds of his failure were in the nature of his early success.
Posted by: dyinglikeflies | March 23, 2008 6:12 PM
Let's take these one by one:
"The "theology" that Wright teaches at his church is nothing like Christianity as most people understand it..."
-- Fred
WHAM: Fred doesn't understand it either. Freed slaves, for many decades even after the Emancipation Proclamation, were not allowed to own businesses or pass large inheritances to succeeding generations, thus ensuring that whites would always stay ahead of blacks economically, politically (only three black senators in all of U.S. history, Obama being one), and socially. Now, I don't know how other people here feel about kicking a people when they're down, but I'm inclined to believe the people screaming "Stop kicking me, you white devil!" have a point. Even if they don't (a HUGE if), that doesn't mean Obama is racist because his pastor sermonized partly based on the theological ideas of Cone. I've read "Peter Rabbit," "Man Without a Country," "War and Peace," "The Holy Bible" and "The Satanic Verses." I don't necessarily agree with the authors I've studied. That's the nature of reading. We all pick and choose our ideas. You've read a book, haven't you, Fred?
"Obama is not a great American! Anyone condeming America while running for president is NEVER a great American!"
-- american hero
SLAM: Love the chosen identity. Of course, Obama has never condemned America. I just hope the GREAT american hero will confuse Hillary's name on the ballot with Obama's.
"Obama has the Audacity to Hope that we are all stupid enough to forget that he lied about NAFTA..."
-- Fred (again)
BAM: Obama never lied about NAFTA. A lower-level Canadian diplomat just got it wrong. Now Hillary, on the other hand, did lie. Despite claiming she opposed NAFTA's passage, she showed up as cheerleader for its passage multiple times, as shown by her own recently released First Lady schedule notes.
"If Obama didn't believe in the views of Pastor Wright...he wouldn't be using phrases like "typical white person"
-- mary
THANK YOU MAM: Another inversion of logic from a typical Hillary supporter.
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:12 PM
Obama/Richardson '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Typical White Person | March 23, 2008 6:14 PM
Re: BILL RICHARDSON
My My. Now Bill Richardson is bad-mouthing Hillary Clinton's campaign team, but is trying to tell us he thinks the Clinton's are wonderful people, or something like that.
Mr. Richardson -- you have already spoken on this matter. We heard you the first time.
We (the voters) will take it from here.
To bring everybody up to date, Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico is declaring his vote now as a Superdelegate for Barack Obama. He gets one vote.
And then he talks about how the rest of the country should coalesce around Mr. Obama before the Convention so everybody can go into the Convention "lovey-dovey".
I think Governor Richardson has been riding out there in the sun too long without a hat.
"Earth to Bill Richardson"....Elections are still underway. Look at the calendar. You will see. There are more votes to be taken and counted. It "ain't" over. Senator Clinton can pull this off; she is on the way. But I know she would welcome your vote on November 4th against John McCain.
And then you can start planning for your next re-election campaign, if there will be one.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Things are close. See below.
Attention: All America including Bill Richardson
From the Associated Press
Wednesday, March 19, 2008; 6:23 PM
THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats nationally -
THE NUMBERS FROM GALLUP
Hillary Rodham Clinton, 49 percent
Barack Obama, 42 percent
OF INTEREST: For the first time in nearly six weeks, Hillary Rodham Clinton leads Barack Obama, 49 percent to 42 percent in daily tracking polling conducted this past Sunday to Tuesday. Her last lead was in the Feb. 7-9 polling, which was coming off the heels of her strong showing on Super Tuesday.
The Gallup Poll is based on telephone interviews conducted March 16-18, and is part of an ongoing tracking poll in which Gallup interviews 1,000 new adults every day. These results are based on interviews with 1,209 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters nationally and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
COMPLETE RESULTS: http://www.gallup.com
Posted by: Common Sense12 | March 23, 2008 6:14 PM
Starting right out of the gate with false declarations about Rezko, Wright, Farraken; it just won't cut the mustard in November. This is not someone who can NOT represent the core of the Democratic party.
There is ample reason for superdelegates to turn their support away from Obama. The question is if they don't, they'll be electing a candidate who truly does not represent the party.
You can't win an election without the support of blue states and swing states.
You can't win an election without the base.
Frankly McCain looks better. And the reason I say this is realistically we are going to have to have a presence in Iraq. It's the strategic reality in the Mid-east. We can pull troops out, demand more accountability, but we will still need to be there in some capacity.
So, who ever is under the delusion that even Obama would pull us out with NADA, is being unrealistic.
Posted by: vammap | March 23, 2008 6:15 PM
Who would have thought that after 8 years of Bush horrors the Democrats would lose the next election. But if Barack Obama is our candidate, say hello to President McCain. This will be the first time in my life that I will not proudly vote for a Democratic candidate, but I will not suffer thru 4 more years of a deer-in-the-headlights, inexperienced, unqualified man as President. McCain will get this Democrat's vote and the vote of several other lifelong Democrats that I know.
Posted by: Debbie | March 23, 2008 6:15 PM
I've promised myself to refrain from the ignorant spews of the HRC camp/supporters. It's way too divisive for me to engage myself in. At the end of the day, we all know who is fooling who.
Posted by: Nancy | March 23, 2008 6:16 PM
Uncle Remus
The truth hurts....and if Pat Robertson was running for President and said or defended people like Reverend Wright.
I would vote NO for him as well.
Stop trying to make this a black vs. white issue. It's not!!
While your view might be jaded and you only see black vs. white...the rest of Americans don't. We feel everybody should be treated equal and deserves equal treatment and double standards should not apply to Obama or anyone else.
Obama was wrong...his pastor was wrong....Obamas statement of "typical white person" was wrong....his continued attacks and pushing of the race issue ..is wrong.
Obama is wrong for America.
You said you don't like people who lie to your face...what about Obamas lie after lie after lie on national television...why is it OK for him to lie?
As I said I am AMERICAN first above all and I will not be bullied into voting for Obama or anyone else if they are not right for this Nation.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:17 PM
We want Dave!
Posted by: Dave Fan Club | March 23, 2008 6:17 PM
There is no way Hillary or McCain or Bill Clinton himself could have ever gotten away with a comment made by Obama while he was in SC.
"Go get Pookie, and ReRe, and your cousin out of the "poolhall" and tell them to get down here and vote, so we can win this thing."
Now, if that is not a sterotypical racial comment, I don't know what is.
Frankly, Obama really does get away with having a double standard according to his audience. I find his double-speak very disconcerting when it comes to comments made to voters vs. those made to Canada, comments to voters vs.those made to other governments concerning Iraq, comments to voters about racism while sitting in church. Comments to voters about his friendship with Rezko.
The shoe has fallen. The other one will fall shortly.
Posted by: cdl | March 23, 2008 6:18 PM
"The anger of the Obama groupies at Clinton is completely misplaced. For months now, since Iowa, although he has won many delegates, Obama has made one irretrievable mistake after another."
-- dyingikeflies
Isn't that thinkinglikeflies? Surely making one "irretrievable" mistake after another would have spelled the end of Hillary's diabolical plan to give Obama 30 victories, a majority of delegates and the majority of popular votes.
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:19 PM
Here we are on the brink of a recession, millions of Americans are losing their jobs and their homes. Millions more don't have any health insurance and live in terror of getting sick. We are in the throws of a war we need to end. The rest of the world is in chaos and our reputation lies bleeding on the floor. Now, instead of nominating Clinton, it looks as if the Democrats are hell bent on handing the ball to Obama. His lack of judgment and connections guarantee that any American who actually thinks about their vote will have no choice but to stay home in November or vote McCain. I am stunned that people are still prepared to give Obama the benefit of the doubt after the past ten days of his divisive and duplicitous campaign.
Posted by: Check out the Kenyan Cousin Odinga | March 23, 2008 6:21 PM
Richardson is a back stabber with no loyalities to anyone other than himeself. I wonder what he wants in return for this endorsement. I guess that old saying is true. If you want a friend in Washington, then get a dog.
Posted by: jes | March 23, 2008 6:21 PM
Any one who wants to run for the Presidency should not be allowed. It is not for the good of the Country but for their own "EGO"
Posted by: vjm | March 23, 2008 6:21 PM
This just in:
When the World Trade Center was attacked for the first time on Feb. 26, 1993, President Bill Clinton flew to New York to be briefed on the attack and the response by city, state and federal authorities. According to newly released White House calendars of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's time as first lady, Mrs. Clinton stayed behind in Washington to attend a photo shoot with Parade magazine and a performance of "Jesus Christ Superstar."
Vote for Hillary, she may be "an oil tanker full of scum" but she likes Jesus.
Posted by: Entitled Politicians for More Entitled Politicians | March 23, 2008 6:22 PM
One very OBVIOUS thing the media ( and Richardson ) seem to be oblivious to, or ignoring, that keeps Hillary in the race, is the likelihood that Obama is now doomed by his association with Rev Wright.. not to mention Louis Farrakhan ( however remotely ), Tony Rezko and other Chicago characters.. and by Michelle's gaffe. Altho I am still an Obama supporter, I think if ALL of this came to light early along, he would not be where he is today with all his wins and delegates. I believe the tide is now against him and there is little he can do to correct this. Bill and Hillary evidently cannot come right out and say this.. but to me it is clear as day. At this point, as I mentioned before.. it probably doesn't matter who " wins ".. I think enough of the general electorate is so disillusioned and turned off as to make it a shoe-in for McCain.. something I dread. I think the Democrats have shot themselves in the foot AGAIN !!! Hopefully some miracle happens and I prove to be wrong...
Posted by: spiritguide | March 23, 2008 6:22 PM
Common Sense 12,
You're pathetic. Here it is Easter and you're using old poll numbers. Try this:
March 22, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Edges Ahead of Clinton
Democratic nomination preference: Obama 48%, Clinton 45%
PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama has quickly made up the deficit he faced with Hillary Clinton earlier this week, with the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on Democratic presidential nomination preferences showing 48% of Democratic voters favoring Obama and 45% Clinton.
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:22 PM
To all you haters out there: Look at the big picture here! Democrats should be encourage to question each other now and get as much attention from the media as they can. whoever wins after the convention will be stronger then ever against the republicans cause there won't be any surprises. Obama/hillary 08! or Hillary/Obama 08!
Posted by: Medo | March 23, 2008 6:22 PM
I am saddened to read the ignorant and uselessly inflammatory comments posted here. Between the bad English and vicious invective, I can understand why people overseas think of us as "Ugly Americans".
Eight years of right-wing mismanagement have driven the country into the toilet financially. All you folks on the left can do is sling mud back and forth. You are emulating the right with a vengeance.
I hope the Democratic Party can reunite so that we can try to resurrect the respect for civil discourse that was abandoned during the Reagan ("ketchup is a vegetable" - "drug users are murderers") Administration.
Posted by: vaporland | March 23, 2008 6:23 PM
This typical white person will never vote for Obama....Not because of race.....but because he initally lied when asked about his pastor....that's a bad sign. He instinctively lied. He did tell the truth five days later....but he lied!
Posted by: cb | March 23, 2008 6:24 PM
It is just ignorant that people in this country would think that superdelegates are supposed to vote for a candidate because a favor is owed (what about the PEOPLE). Gov. Richardson is right, and he owes the Clintons nothing. He has and continues to do a fine job, not for the Clintons, but for Americans. He did the right thing, and I thank him. The Clinton campaign has proved what I have heard and what I have thought all along (they have temper tantrums/get very anger when things do not go its way - they are extremely DIVISIVE).
Hillary has proven that she is NOT the right person to bring this country together, and she will not do a good job (she is selfish, misleading, and has proven she is only thinking of the Clintons in the Whitehouse again, and is not thinking about the People). Now tell me why should the Clinton campaign get so upset because Gov. Richardson stated and did what he truly believes would be best for the country? How ridiculous it is for the PEOPLE to have to continue to go through this Democratic Party nonsense? People think it is interesting/funny to watch Hillary's campaign tear down decent people, and have this media frenzy continue, but this is disastrous for all of us. Yes, it is more so actions and comments from Hillary herself and her campaign - no matter how you spin it. Because Obama could have referenced Travelgate, Whitewater, her husband's racial comments, some of the deleted information among the 11,000 sheets recently issued, exaggerations about her international experience, and we can go on and on (what a joke). But, Obama chooses not to talk about that because he chose to talk about the issues that are important to the PEOPLE. But, we have those that are trying their best to push him away from what he truly believes (Change is needed in Washington for a better county and relationships for all of us) to discuss negative and misleading issues.
SHAME ON MOST OF THE REMAINING SUPERDELEGATES HOLDING OUT BECAUSE YOU FEEL YOU OWE THE CLINTONS A FAVORITE. THIS IS HORRIBLE, NOT JUST FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BUT FOR THE COUNTRY. HILLARY CLINTON DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE COUNTRY; SHE ONLY CARES ABOUT STATUS/HERSELF (SHE ONLY CARES ABOUT WHAT SHE THOUGHT WAS IN THE BAG ALREADY FOR HER). She can't keep all of her promises to all of you - think about it - ha ha ha.
I would not want anyone to head the country that has proven disaster in every area she claims to have experience (Healthcare (she will do nothing and say anything to win - empty promises and failures as stated many times before). The biggest joke is that she compares being a master of handling crisis to staying with a cheating husband (how stupid??? And insulting to the PEOPLE, but you have those who feel sorry for her because they can identify with her - again how stupid - find some backbone/self-esteem). And as for Gov. Rendell (you can see stupidity just from watching and listening to him - he definitely has a hidden agenda). Yes, he has definitely put his bet on the wrong horse.
Special note to Hillary supporters (she will not win, because many plan to stay home or vote for McCain if she wins/tries to steal the nominee through her government official cronies/superdelegates that owe the Clintons - what a joke (where is your conscience - WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??? SHE WILL NEVER HOLD THE TITLE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Posted by: Vette | March 23, 2008 6:24 PM
richardson is a real 100% Judas of 08.
This guy does not deserve to be governor of n Mexico. He is so jealous of the clintons that he cannot stand it, although his whole pathetic political life was handed to him by the clintons. We all know how jealous people behave. Look at Kerry, Kennedy and richardson.... a bunch of losers. let's wait and see how their constituents throw them out of office when the time comes.
Posted by: tony | March 23, 2008 6:25 PM
Uh, how come the guy who begins
"Uncle Remus
The truth hurts..."
doesn't even post his name? Now THAT's Hillary-style courage.
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:26 PM
Where can Americans go to get a refund on their Obama vote?
We not only have Buyers remorse..we have buyers anxiety....Please give us our votes back!
Posted by: chula | March 23, 2008 6:26 PM
Richardson is in the unenviable position of having jumped onto a sinking ship. Of course he had no choice. It's becoming more and more obvious that Hillary will choose Evan Bayh as her VP.
Like the Obama campaign, he is now grasping at anything to stay afloat. It makes him look even more petty than his "timely" endorsement. What a tool!
Posted by: Typical White Veteran | March 23, 2008 6:27 PM
Govenor Rendell is a forceful advocate for Hillary Clinton. But one must remember that his support is another example of the benefits of being Bill Clinton's wife. Bill Clinton helped Rendell in his fight to become Mayor of Philadephia. Bill Clinton made Rendell's wife a Federal Judge. In short, one shouldn't be surprised by his empassioned support of Hillary.
In stark contrast, I really admire and feel that Bill Richardson's support of Obama is much more significant. Despite the fact Bill Clinton appointed him to many positions and he remains friends with him, nevertheless he endorsed Obama.
And Bill Richardson is right on the important issue of Democratic Unity in the general election. At this point any scenario for Hillary to win the nomination is torturious and hugely divisive. Because she is not likely to win either the pledged delegate or popular vote contests over Obama. It's time for other Super Delegates to weigh in and stop this competition which seems to degenerate into more negativity the longer it goes on. It's time as Richardson says to get behind Obama and unify against McCain and what is in effect a third George Bush term; McCain is the same as Bush on the war and the economy. America simply cannot afford that.
Posted by: McHenry | March 23, 2008 6:28 PM
Richardson is a typical sleazy, self serving politico that simply follows what he believes will yield the biggest payoff. If this doesn't pan out for him he'll find some way to go crawling back to the Clintons.
Posted by: rplat | March 23, 2008 6:28 PM
rippermccord
I see you use the OBAMA WAY tactics of ...if they disagree attack them personally.
I guess everybody interpets HOPE in their own twisted way.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:29 PM
Referring to his wife Hillary and Senator John McCain, former President Bill Clinton, said, "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics." This is typical of the vile which constantly spews from the mouths of the self-righteous and self-loving Clinton's. The constant drone that chameleon Hillary Clinton is electable in any general election, much less than she is more electable than Senator Obama is laughable. Clinton gets no independent voters, no crossover Republican voters, and the Clinton's Barack to the back of the bus campaign has guaranteed that if she should steal the Democrat nomination, African-Americans, progressives and other Democrats who are sickened by the sixteen years of Bush-Clinton hate mongering and divisiveness will either stay home or support the lesser of two evils, John McCain. Senator McCain maybe a misguided soul; you have to consider his age and background when listening to his perplexing statements, much as you do Reverend Wright, but at least McCain has a soul, Hillary Clinton does not. Former President Clinton's statement reveals the true Clinton mentality; they believe that American politics is like an exclusive country club where people of color and of the wrong religions are not admitted. Hillary and Senator McCain should be allowed to sit on the veranda, nursing their cool drinks as they discuss what is the next group of innocent Arabs and Persians which the United States should maim and kill. During the Bush-Clinton era, the wealthiest 1% of the country now has 80% of the wealth of the country. Clinton and McCain, if they didn't have to worry about this "other stuff" could be free to plot the complete destruction of the middle class in this country. Yes, indeed there is an intrusion into this exclusive club, an intrusion by those who want to reclaim sensibility and decency for America after the despicable and deplorable Bush-Clinton years. The Democrats do have a dream team; it is Barack Obama and Bill Richardson
Posted by: Timmy Coffee | March 23, 2008 6:30 PM
Dear Vaporland,
Here at First Black President (s) Against More Black Presidents, we are happy to see that you're a "people person." What matters most is being with one another. Hillary Clinton is the savior for our country's ills because she has slept in the White House already. We know that she is good, because she is not Barack Obama. The logic is clear. Barack Obama would be ANOTHER BLACK PRESIDENT (or at least half that). Just say "Nobama!"
Thank you for your brief note!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:30 PM
I would have to agree with the comment left by"svreader",that Bill Richardson DEFINATELY wants to be Obama's right hand man,just like Dick Cheney has been to Pres.Bush.The only difference is if Obama wins the democratic nomination by disinfranchisibg the voters of Florida and Michigan,then it will be President McCain and his VP pick moving into the White House.McCain already has the endoresement of Florida's governor,so you take that along with the 2.5 million democrat's whose votes did not count in the primary,and you have McCain winning the state of Florida.I think it is a fair comparison to call Richardson another Judas.I am a young democrat,but I was raised in a methodist church,so I know the story of Judas.He betrayed Jesus not only for silver,but also for power.That is what Richardson is after.He was an ambassador to the U.N.and secretary of energy under Pres.Bill Clinton.I also wonder why he waited to endorse Obama when he saw that Michigan and Florida aren't having re-do primaries.Why didn't he endorse Obama before the Texas primary,where he could have helped with the latino vote?I think we ALL know the answers to that.If Michigan and Florida's votes had counted,Richardson would have endorsed Hillary.But,I am glad he has shown his true character,because there is no way Hillary would have him on her ticket.I have not given up on Hillary.There are many states left to vote,including my home state of Kentucky.And I know that Hillary will win here because she has a tremendous amount of support,from all democrat's both young and old.As for the comment left by Paul J.Nolan who said that Hillary will pack a "whooping" by Obama in Pennsylvania apparentley he hasn't seen the latest polls which show Hillary ahead by 13 points.Pennsylvania is a state with the same blue collar voters as Ohio,we all saw who took the "whooping" there,and it wasn't Hillary.If Omama is our democrat nominee he will be sorry in the general election for ignoring the blue collar/30,000.00 a year income voters.As much as I want a democrat to win the white house,if Hillary isn't the nominee,I just don't see it happening.All the republican's can say about her,is about Bill's affair which is NOT Hillary's fault.But the republican's will throw the book at Obama for refusing to "disown" Rev.Wright,and for his wife's comments about never being proud of this country till now.Hillary is our only hope!!Wake up America,before it's too late. Go Hillary!!
Posted by: kentuckygirl4hillary | March 23, 2008 6:31 PM
Pennsylvannia, North Carolina, Indiana, Kentucky, Guam, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota and McCain voters want to know about Huma Abedin and Hillary Clinton.
Help us learn the truth Washington Post about the 12 year "relationship" between Huma and Hillary.
Google and YouTube have a lot of information on Huma and Hillary.
Washington Post, tell us the truth.
Posted by: Huma Huma | March 23, 2008 6:31 PM
Oh, my god, the Hillary people are LOSING their minds, not just the election! Facts? What are facts? Logic? We don't need no stinkin' logic!
Eat Obama's dust!
And have a Happy Easter from your favorite Deluded Judas Kool-Aid-drinking HUSSEIN Man-Love Desperate Jealous Reverse-racist guy who just loves watching you guys squirm so much it hurts to laugh any more!
LMFAO!
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:32 PM
The Clinton staff and supporters all need to chew on a pack of orbitz every 5 mins because the stench that comes out of their mouths is beyond me. Because they don't get their way we must all perish! They sound more and more like the far right of the most right-winger. They regurgitate any and everything the craziest of the right-wingers say. They are ready to sell the entire party for absolutely nothing. I hope the wool comes off their heads come the general election because it will be beyond pathetic. These people are sorry. They are threating to vote for senile McCain, the same candidate the republicans are unwilling to vote for. Maybe they'd be the only ones voting for McCain. They can do what they please, I'm just sick of their stupid tantrums!
Posted by: Viva Obama | March 23, 2008 6:32 PM
Hello? Isn't this election about how to handle the economy and the terrorists? Why is this suddenly about racial redemption? Thats ALL Obama's candidacy has brought to this election.
And an atmosphere of FEAR...among the journalists - to ask Obama really tough questions -because they dont want to be labelled racists.
Is THIS America wants for the next 4 years? a muzzled and docile press? I'm hardly a fan of W.J.Clinton, but if theyre making HIM loook like a racist, what wont they do to any random journalist/politician who dares to question President Obama?
WAKE UP AMERICA...this is not the time for "redemption" ..by voting a totally green black guy into the presidency, because he doesn't talk like OTHER black folks. This is PURE racism...admiring the "whiteness" of Obama, is what all this obamamania is.
The terrorists are targeting ALL of us. Not just white/black/yellow/brown.
STOP the obsession with race and vote for McCain. He's liberal enough to be a democrat anyway. And yes he has an adopted child from the Indian subcontinent (for you redemption-oriented lefties). Would you call HIM a racist?
Posted by: Typical Person | March 23, 2008 6:32 PM
I once thought I'd do anything to get Bill close to the Oval Office again, but Hillary's win at any cost beliefs have turned me off. My money and vote have gone to Obama. Hillary, you have a lot of strengths. Now is the time use them to make sure the spend-spend-spend Republicans stop driving our country in the ground
Posted by: Nick | March 23, 2008 6:32 PM
If you look at the two campaigns (Hillary & Obama's) it might give you a preview of how they would run the country. People may disagree about whose responsible for the negative tenor but what about effective organization and efficiency with our donated dollars?
This says something for Obama.
Posted by: ellenmae | March 23, 2008 6:35 PM
Dunkin' Donuts Clinton supporters need to learn how to spell, learn to get their facts right, and stop using CAPS LOCK key to express their points. Just because your arguments are in capital letters doesn't make it right, and it betrays your lack of maturity and intelligence.
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 6:35 PM
"Drag a hundred dollar bills through a trailer park and there is no telling what you will find"?
That was the great James Carville dissing Paula Jones, the Ark. state employee who then Gov. Clinton solicited for oral sex.
Now we have the same hack back at it. Carville is the face of the Clinton disfunction, all caring on the outside, but arrogant and snide on the inside.
Richardson is no Judas. Paula Jones was telling the truth and it turns out it was Carville who was chasing the cash.
Go Obama!
Posted by: jfp | March 23, 2008 6:35 PM
Ole Bill should fit right in there with the Obama liars. He has stated that superdelegates should vote however their state voted. Didn't NM vote Hillary. Oh I forgot. when you become an Obama supporter you can say anything you want but it doesn't mean what you say. Like "for the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country" didn't really mean she wasn't proud before. Bill or Hillary say factual things with nothing to do with race but they meant racial. How can Obama's "fairy tale"stance on the war be racism? Yet me being "typical white" is not racial. What's sad is that millions of Dem voters support this bonehead.
Posted by: bnw173 | March 23, 2008 6:35 PM
Fred --
I strongly agree with your comment, since its one I wrote, and you posted it withtout attribution.
How about actually crediting me next time?
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 6:36 PM
ditto....I think alot of people are having buyers' remorse. The media did not do their job. If he becomes president it's because they didn't do their jobs and he denied Florida and Michigan a say (and the cost the dems the race). He's not different at all. If anything...he's worse! If racial issues were so important to him....why are we just hearing about it from him? Why hasn't he taken steps earlier to help resolve the issues and why when his back was against the wall did her decide race was an issue.....? Politics, that's why! We know all about Britney.....but the media couldn't get information out about Barack Obama. We loose with this guy!
Posted by: kevin | March 23, 2008 6:36 PM
I have to apologize to the reasonable group of Clinton supporters who have refrained from slurs (and I know they do exist) but to the rest my comments above apply.
Posted by: Viva Obama | March 23, 2008 6:37 PM
Looking for a sign that your candidate is destined for the White House? Go no further than Rasmussen Reports daily presidential tracking poll, which today offers nuggets of hope to every candidate left in the race.
For Hillary Clinton: A one-point lead among Democrats nationwide over Barack Obama. That's within the margin of error, but it's also part of a small but clear trend in her direction over the last week.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 6:37 PM
Would have expected better judgment from a former ambassador and a foreign relations expert. If he was swayed by the eloquent speech, then this is the ultimate in the racial divide.
Posted by: sam_2131 | March 23, 2008 6:38 PM
In response to what Gov Rendell said, if Hillary was the best candidate she would be winning. Pretty simple stuff.
But instead of winning, Hillary continues to spread this garbage about how much national security experience she has.
You know, she had to sprint across the tarmac in Bosnia. It was so dangerous, the President sent his wife, his daughter, a comedian and a singer. It was so dangerous on that tarmac that the video of her landing that day shows her kissing a little girl in a greeting ceremony. I guess the sniper fire she talked about came before the ceremony, or maybe she was under fire but showed such courage to stop first for a quick photo-op.
Posted by: edzo2 | March 23, 2008 6:38 PM
I find it patheric how Obama supporters keep using and wanting a double standard for Obama.
Don't you feel he can win on his own merits?
Why the double standard...why the need for a handicap?
Posted by: Chula | March 23, 2008 6:38 PM
I strongly doubt Clinton's judgment and motivations. She only stood by her man because she had already planned to run for the white house. And I'm also concerned by the fact that many women are voting for Clinton because they feel that a woman should finally be president and that therefore she is entitled to the presidency.
Posted by: barry kumar | March 23, 2008 6:39 PM
To CB:
And what about the many lies told by the Clintons. And the Hillary lies continues. Oh, I guess you only focus on one side when convenient. He did not lie, and he can stand up and admit when he makes mistakes. Something Hillary has not and will never do.
Posted by: Vette | March 23, 2008 6:39 PM
President Barrack Obama! Yeah! Hilary showed her craven desperation when she went to Florida for a "victory" party. Hilary's team makes KKKarl Rove smell sweet by comparison.
Posted by: Dave | March 23, 2008 6:40 PM
If Obama brings the same "change" to America that he brought to the slums in his district in Chicago, we'll all freeze to death.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 6:40 PM
svreader: I saw the post but did not remember who posted it. I apologize and freely admit that it was your post. I just liked it so much I couldn't resist.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 6:40 PM
Obama is: a fraud, a liar, a manipulator, a racist, a political hack, a weakling, and he is unpatriotic as well.
I will never support him for president if he's the Dem's nominee. I will vote for McCain, because the truth is, although I have never voted for a Republican in my life, the thought of Obama (and his unpatriotic wife) being in the White House truly sickens me.
Posted by: toni | March 23, 2008 6:40 PM
If Richardson had endorsed Clinton, there wouldn't be all this Obama/Richardson bashing. Clinton bloggers are upset and can't read the writing on the wall.
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 6:40 PM
to add, democrats are a bunch of dim-witted, selfish, jealous liars. They are no good compared to the republicans who are way more faithful and loyal. I am seriously considering voting for McCain, after I voted for Kerry in 2004. That was my mistake to have voted for him, an anti-war loser. It turned out, those democrats liberals are more concerned about their political careers than about the good of this country. Rchardson, kerry, and kennedy thought they would get a cabinet post if obama gets elected. what kind of selfish people they are! dream on....McCain will whip your a$$ in november.
Posted by: tony | March 23, 2008 6:41 PM
An anonymous person posted this:
"rippermccord
I see you use the OBAMA WAY tactics of ...if they disagree attack them personally."
Excuse me, I had to LMFAO.
You (whoever you are) are lecturing Obama supporters about the politics of personal destruction? When the whole Rev. Wright controversy tars Obama with the perceived sins of his pastor and widens the racial divide just to peel off white voters for Hillary's coronation?
You, whose companions regularly ascribe the names in my previous post and many others to Obama supporters?
You, an avowed fan of a Bush/Clinton, Bush/Clinton dynasty?
Oh, that's rich. That is so rich. That's Hillar -y-ous!!!
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:41 PM
Thanks Fred!!!
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 6:41 PM
"Bush Clinton, Bush Clinton, what about the rest of us" is a great line by Richardson. I agree. Aren't we a democracy? We left ruling families behind when we severed from England, 2 centuries ago. People who like Billary need to wake up from their stony sleep. Get a move on and join with the Progressive forces of today, don't vote for Ruling Families!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:42 PM
"Bush Clinton, Bush Clinton, what about the rest of us" is a great line by Richardson. I agree. Aren't we a democracy? We left ruling families behind when we severed from England, 2 centuries ago. People who like Billary need to wake up from their stony sleep. Get a move on and join with the Progressive forces of today, don't vote for Ruling Families!
Posted by: lumpy1 | March 23, 2008 6:42 PM
Billary is like the GOP with those tactics. If she win I will vote for Mc Bush it as close my faith allow to suicide.Hillary if she win does would be a cheap win and she wont win the presidency because she no like her and she seem uncaring. Also Black culture and belief does not have be thd same as other race to be respectable. We are the youngest race if I am mistaken and with little to no history.I have no idea of the breeding practices of slave owner have had on are race.Seek understanding!
Posted by: american frist | March 23, 2008 6:43 PM
Dear Bill Richardson,
By endorsing Obama, you made the right call for the democratic party and for America...
Under Bill Clinton's presidency, the democrats lost the house, the senat and many other legistlative seats. His presidency was plagued with violations to ethic codes:
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
Before he left office, he gave favors in exchange of money... For example, shortly after beeing pardonned by President Clinton, fugitive financier Marc Rich had his ex-wife giving $400 000 to the Clintons library foundation: Source:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,98756,00.html
Since then, he is in much bigger suspicious money deals ... The Clinton foundation received recently a $31.3 million donation after Bill expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader's, undercuting both American foreign policy and sharp criticism of Kazakhstan's poor human rights: Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html
Bill and Hillary Clinton would be the target of many attacks by the republicans if Hillary is nominated. And if the superdelegates go against the elected delegates, as a retaliation, several democratic voters will give the presidency, the senat and the house to the republicans.
Posted by: Logan | March 23, 2008 6:43 PM
Joe --
We can read the writing on the wall.
It says
"I'm freezing to death in here!!!
"Csn somebody get me some heat????"
Signed,
Corpsicles for Obama
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 6:44 PM
Really now, folks, you actually think the blips you're hearing on the "news" about Wright is the whole story? Go to Youtube and watch an *entire* sermon, particularly the one where he quotes the *white* ambassador from the US who talked on Fox News about our "chickens coming home to roost." To hear the "news" tell it, that was an original quote from Wright. But if you take the time to investigate rather than being spoon fed your beliefs, you will see you are being manipulated. And what about McCain's crackpot preacher Hagee, and Clinton's involvement in "the Fellowship"? Seems like neither of these three can throw stones, but the media chooses to blast Obama for Wright? OH PLEASE.
Posted by: Oh Please | March 23, 2008 6:44 PM
To: Typical White Persons
From: Typical White Person
Re: Obama's Fraud on the American Public and his fat opportunistic traitor peyote chewing sidekick Richardson
VERY VERY EXCELLENT RESPONSES HERE! As a dyed in the wool Dem., FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I WILL FORCE MY HAND TO VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN-MCCAIN- IF OBAMA IS THE DEM. CANDIDATE-AND BE QUITE HAPPY TO DO SO!
AT LEAST WITH MCCAIN I WON'T HAVE TO EVER QUESTION HIS PATRIOTISM AND LOVE FOR HIS COUNTRY, (despite Obama's cheesy 8 flag-lecture/speech to the "typical white persons" out there, where he ended his lecture by saying "god bless America" for the first time ever-yeah Obama, you finally got around to saying that, NOW, ON THE RUN, gee, how VERY OPPORTUNISTIC OF YOU!)/
LOVE OF COUNTRY DEPENDENT ON WHAT NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY MEMBERS THINK, AND/OR HIS WIFE MICHELLE OBAMA-A NBPP MEMBER IF EVER I SAW ONE!
LOVE OF COUNTRY AND BEING PATRIOTIC IS SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST MOUTHING THE WORDS AND STANDING BY A FLAG OBAMA, IN SOME CHEAP OPPORTUNISTIC MOMENT OF PANDERING TO THE PUBLIC! IT'S ALSO NOT DEPENDENT ON VOTING FOR YOU, AS YOUR LECTURING WIFE INFORMS US! BUT I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO GRASP THAT, SINCE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DEPTH AND PERSPECTIVE ON YOUR OR YOUR WIFE'S PART-YOU'RE TOO CLOUDED BY REV. WRIGHT'S HATE SPEECH ALL THESE YEARS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.
AS FOR RICHARDSON, THAT LOSER COULDN'T EVEN CARRY HIS OWN STATE, MUCH LESS PERSUADE ANYBODY ELSE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA-AND HIS TREACHERY TO THE CLINTONS IS REALLY REALLY A TURN-OFF! HE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT CAREFULLY IN THE MONTHS AHEAD, BECAUSE HIS FUTURE POLITICAL CAREER WILL BE EXACTLY ZERO-WHICH FITS HIS CHARACTER EXACTLY!
THE SUPERDELEGATES WOULD BE CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY TO PUT OBAMA IN AS THE DEM. CANDIDATE-BUT IF THEY DO, THE DEMS. NEED TO BE PREPARED TO LOSE, BECAUSE MILLIONS OF DEMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WON'T BE VOTING DEMOCRATIC-MOST AMERICANS AREN'T OBAMA KOOL-AID DRINKER-CULTISTS-THE RANK AND FILE AMERICAN CAN SPOT A FAKE AND A FRAUD A MILE AWAY, AND OBAMA'S GIG IS UP!
Posted by: FARFALLE44 | March 23, 2008 6:45 PM
Oh how funny that sleazy fat slob loser
phony Hispanic Racist Bill "Judas" Richardson,the original Race Card Player
of 2008,"Did I Tell You That I'm Hispanic"
and new Black Racist Conman Barack Obama
buddy is whining about Hillary Clinton's
aides,after all the Clinton's have done
for this pathetic screw up Richardson no
less. So Barack Hussein Obama if this is
the best you can do,pal is run out a total
village idiot loser like Bill Richardson
to defend you after you and your weirdo
wife Michelle Obama and your Pastor Wright
were exposed as Racists then that shows
just exactly how desperate Obama is now.
Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | March 23, 2008 05:00 PM
Richardson is full of crap. With friends like him, who needs enemies. Back stabbin bastard. Does he really think Obama is going to pick a two faced jerk as his running mate? He's proved his disloyalty, only an idiot would trust him now.
Posted by: JR | March 23, 2008 05:41 PM
Bill Richardson is Judas
Obama is a fraud. All those who believe his "words" are idealistic idiots
Obama should win the dem nomination and be thrashed by McCain in Nov
Posted by: NOWAYOBAMA | March 23, 2008 03:18 PM
Richardson is the Dog that bit the hand that fed him. As he now begs for scraps from the Obama table, why would Obama ever trust a Judas as Richardson has revealed himself to be. When Hillary wins her campaign and receives the 2008 Democratic nomination, the name of Obama and Richardson will join the ranks of Rev. Wright, Ron Paul, and Ralph Nader... just a 15 second blip in the Political radar. Does anyone in their right mind believe that an African American with a "hate whitey" agenda will ever be ALLOWED to be elected as President of the United States?
Posted by: vote Hillary 08 | March 23, 2008 04:47 PM
Jesus -- Happy Easter, posters. Are you people for real? This actually explains a lot of the Obama hate on these posts, 'cause if you guys can turn on a dime and savage Bill Richardson, a man the Clinton's wooed mightily for his endorsement, who came to Sen. Clinton's defense during the debates and has not said or done anything to trash the Clintons until now, it sure explains the rabidly vile response to Sen. Obama daring to interfere with the Clintons' expected ascension to the third term they obviously believed they deserved. Amazing ... and ugly, beyond ugly. This is the reason I decided at the beginning of this process to support someone other than the Clintons -- I didn't want to return to the muck and mire of the '90s. This situation would be a lot different if there was a map Mrs. Clinton could follow to win the nomination based on primary results; hell, she can't even catch up to Sen. Obama based on upcoming elections, only by savaging him to convince Super Delegates to abandon the leader in delegates, votes and states. Regardless, people please stop spewing this hate speech -- it does none of us any good. Excuse me ... after rolling Easter eggs I gotta go take a shower.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:45 PM
The only way to fix this whole Democrat situation..is to have a NATIONWIDE RE-VOTE!
Hold the elections on the same day and let the chips fall where they may. The person with the most votes wins!
It is the only way to keep the Democratic party in tact.
Posted by: chula | March 23, 2008 6:45 PM
Once again Clinton has called out the attack dogs like Carville because she can't possibly campaign and win on her credentials. We see every day that she has overstated her experience, she attacks anyone who disagrees with her and she gets her cronies to do the same. Not the kind of leader America needs right now and she's only making sure McCain wins in the fall. Give it up Hillary, you will not only lose, but you will make sure your name in Democratic politics goes down in infamy to join your husband's. Gov. Richardson would have been called a saint by you if he'd endorsed you, but luckily he has shown common sense. Yet another one of the former Clinton cabal comes out of the closet to call things as they are when you work with them.
Posted by: ExFan | March 23, 2008 6:45 PM
Govenor Richardson is a looser. Vote with your state....unless you are an Obama supporter. Hillary won NM and Gov. Richardson voted Obama. (Do as I say not as I do.) In the debates, Richardson said Obama lacked experience, now he suddenly has it! Richardson said he decided once he heard the speech...now we find out he decided two weeks ago! He aired his dirty laundry by stating that the phone call to Hillary got heated...even if it did, he's was wrong to say anything...no class there!! When you do things like that it comes back on you in a big way....it will!!! Why are you so afraid for Hillary to keep going....are we going to find out more things about Senator Obama?? Me thinks yes...me thinks alot more damage has been done than you know!!! Me thinks the republicans will bring Obama down!!
Posted by: connie | March 23, 2008 6:46 PM
Again, please stop using CAPS LOCK. It makes you look like the idiot you are.
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 6:47 PM
I agree with Gov. Richardson -- it's time for the party to come together behind a candidate, so we can all put this divisive primary season behind us and focus on turning this country back in a positive direction in 2009. Pretty much any way you cut it, Obama is the obvious choice to back at this point.
Posted by: c | March 23, 2008 6:47 PM
It appears that Bill Richardson has a very different definition of "loyalty" than I do. He sold Hillary out.
If a speech by Obama, intended to mislead people about the racist rantings of his pastor, was enough to sway Richardson - then I for one do not think very highly of his judgement.
I have to add that Obama's campaign is just as dirty as any other campaign. Except his is the only one that pretends to practice a different types of politics.
Posted by: Mark | March 23, 2008 6:47 PM
Heaven forbid if we Bill Clinton again. All the bad things he did are
1) Balanced the budget
2) Created 23 million jobs
3) Moved more people from poverty to middle class
4) Middle class income actually went up
5) US most respected country in the world
6) Won Kosovo war with international cooperation and without loosing a single American life
Who wants all that when we we can hate Clinton's?
Posted by: Cerebral | March 23, 2008 6:48 PM
When the cowboys and Arabs draw down
on each other at noon
in the cool dusty air of the city boardroom,
will you stand by a passive spectator
of the market dictators?
Will you discreetly withdraw
with your ear pressed to the boardroom door
Will you hear when the lion within you roars
or will you take to the hills?
Posted by: patrick | March 23, 2008 6:48 PM
IN HONOR OF THE POOR WHO FROZE TO DEATH IN OBAMA'S SLUMS:
Chicago
Graham Nash
So your brother's bound and gagged
And they chained him to a chair,
Won't you please come to Chicago
Just to sing.
In a land that's known as freedom,
How can such a thing be fair?
Won't you please come to Chicago
For the help that we can bring.
We can change the World.
Rearrange the World.
It's dying
to get better.
Politicians sit yourselves down,
There's nothing for you here.
Won't you please come to Chicago
For a ride.
Don't ask Jack to help you
Cause he'll turn the other ear.
Won't you please come to Chicago
Or else join the other side.
We can change / yes we can change the World.
Rearrange / rearrange the World.
It's dying / do you believe in justice?
It's dying / and if you believe in freedom.
It's dying / Let a man live his own life.
It's dying / Rules and regulations who needs them?
Open up the door.
Somehow people must be free,
I hope the day comes soon.
Won't you please come to Chicago,
To show you face.
From the bottom of the ocean
To the mountains of the Moon.
Won't you please come to Chicago
No one else can take your place.
We can change / yes we can change the World.
Rearrange / rearrange the World.
It's dying / If you believe in justice.
It's dying / and if you believe in freedom.
It's dying / Let a man live his own life.
It's dying / Rules and regulations, who needs them?
Open up the door.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 6:48 PM
If you feel a need to scold the anti-Obama posts....then you should include all the lunatic anti-Hillary posts as well.
Don't pull that Happy Easter...let's get all along bit and then focus all your negative energy on one candidate.
Posted by: chula | March 23, 2008 6:49 PM
Cerebal, 'BILL' Clinton did those things, not Hillary.
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 6:50 PM
I finally watched the full "God D*** America" sermon yesterday, and found myself getting very angry. Not at the fiery pastor, or Obama, but at a willfully dishonest media that has essentially taken the line out of context. Well, I guess Fox did, but then the rest of the bunch just lazily came along for the ride (hey, any furor to sell papers).
Wright spent the first 99% of the sermon enumerating how some American GOVERNMENTS (administrations) have been decent (Lincoln, Clinton, Truman to some extent I gather), but most have been harmful to African Americans. It's very clear to me that *this* is what he was "damning" -- not the intrinsic country. All those American Legion Hall members in rural PA think they've been dissed, and they haven't even been.
So all I can think today is: "God D*** our useless media". Have you actually watched the whole video?
Posted by: B2O2 | March 23, 2008 6:50 PM
I'd like to see Clinton supporters list any specific incidents of Obama sinking to gutter politics rather than just ranting and raving.
Posted by: rcm | March 23, 2008 6:50 PM
Who is going to tell Bill that it's over???? Hillary is done. It's time the Democratic Party put a stop to the ridiculous charade that this is a close race and she can still win.
Posted by: Lilly | March 23, 2008 6:50 PM
Adios, Hillary!
Posted by: rippermccord | March 23, 2008 6:51 PM
TO ALL YOU HYPOCRITES CURLED UP IN FETAL POSITION HURTING DEEPLY AT THE "TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" REMARK:
Obama's grandmother is a typical white person of her generation. Born in pre-1930, raised with absolute certainty about white superiority in America. She's not a bad person, she's capable of loving a person of color with all her heart but, she is who she is with the failings of occasionally slipping back into that mindset. No matter how much you rant and rave, there is nothing particularly controversial, unkind or divisive about that. It's simply true.
Wright is a typical black person born and raised to adulthood in the Vietnam era. He served his country with honor in Vietnam and was welcomed back with racism. His unproductive, divisive anger has never gone away, just like the anger of whites offended by affirmative action and job discrimination for sins they did not commit.
Many young people of all races and religions, an overwhelming majority in fact, have heard their parents say racist things at the dinner table. Their parents heard their own parents say even more extreme things. It gets a little better as we go along. Clipping quotes into conveniently misleading and divisive de-contextualized sound-bites to serve your campaign purposes does not change reality.
You're all still in denial. Vote for McCain if you want but it doesn't change the fact that as generations go on, America gets less and less racist. That's the good news in all of this.
Posted by: asja | March 23, 2008 6:52 PM
Bill Clinton should quit any attempt to campaign for his wife. It is not going to be successful, as these attempts work, like bumerang right now, and simply dishonor him and her campaign. He should sit quiet and do his best to convince her to step out of the race, and the sooner-the better. Her time is over. Nobody really wants old, deeply hated by a lot of people, woman without real political skills, as the president. Bill Clinton should stop disgracing himself and simply shut up.
Posted by: aepelbaum | March 23, 2008 6:53 PM
It's like playing in the sandbox. The Clinton supporters acting like children.
Richardson is bad! He endorses Obama. Pfui.
Redall is good! He endorses HRC, well done
Kennedy is bad,
Kerry is bad,
Carter will be bad
Gore will be bad
Pelosi will be bad
Edwards will be bad
Lewis is already bad
at the end, only a few guys of her clique will be staying by her, including Billy, I think.
If Fl and Mich will not re-vote, let's start from the beginning once again.
Votemixing untill HRC is the winner. And than we all fight against McCain.
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Jebb Bush-and than, instaed of Chelsea, Bill once again.
Dear me, are there only a handfull of brains in the whole US? Looks like.
Posted by: sieweke | March 23, 2008 6:54 PM
I love Hillary...but if she tries to tell me to vote Obama...I cannot. He will forever be linked in my mind by "G** D*** American" and "e deserved 9/11"(five days after it happened)...I read challenges to hear the rest of Wright's sermon....NO THANKS I have heard more of his hatred than I care to hear. Why would someone like that even stay in America...LEAVE!! As for Richardson, he always struck me as trying to be "cool"...problem is he's part of the "uncool" generation....he won't be part of any cleansing of the old...he is the old!!!! With his beard he looks like he's going through "the change" or something!!
Posted by: cb | March 23, 2008 6:55 PM
Obama supporters, please stop apologizing for him.
Senator Obama, there is NO apologizing for belonging to THAT church and having THAT pastor as a mentor, friend, uncle or whatever for 20 years. There is NO excuse for saying you cannot disown him no more than you can disown the black community, then implying that your white grandmother is a racist. There is NO excuse for refusing to leave that church. There is NO excuse for not apologizing to the American people for Wright's remarks. There is NO excuse for calling your grandmother "a typical white person". There is NO excuse for taking your innocent children to THAT church. There is NO excuse for your wife's comments. And finally, there is NO excuse for your speech which blamed Rev Wright's racism and anti-Americanism on me.
A Typical White Person
Posted by: Fed Up | March 23, 2008 6:55 PM
To those who say they "saw the whole video": No matter how Obama and his lapdog press want to spin Rev. Wright's story, he made terrible and anti-American statements. Moreover, the whole basis of the so-called theology of his church is racist. The "theology" that Wright teaches at his church is nothing like Christianity as most people understand it. The brand of theology which Wright has been teaching Obama and the others at his church is called "black liberation theology." Wright admits this and it is stated on the church's website. Black theology is based upon the premise of the white oppressor against the black oppressed. This is why, for example, that Wright refers to Jesus as black, and his killers as white. This is the only way the story of Jesus fits within this brand of "theology." Rev. Wright cites James Cone, another proponent of black liberation theology, as his theological inspiration. Here are just a couple of James Cone's quotes: (1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." *** These teachings are fundamentally racist and divisive. Obama has chosen to belong to this racist church for 20 years, and now because of exposure by the press, he tries to fool the American public once again.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 6:56 PM
Why would Bill Clinton need to say that Sen. Obama was unpatriotic? Mrs. Obama already said that she was 'ashamed' of the United States. If she were Hillary, that statement would have been said to be tatooed on Bill's bottom as truth of his true feelings.
Obama is naive and egotistical about his abilities and Richardson is a snake in the grass. The two of them deserve each other but Hillary deserves our votes from Michigan and Florida.
Personally, I would like to understand more fully what most of the media has to gain by electing Obama to office without the benefit of allowing the American people to actually vote first.
Why the outrage and mockery when Hillary says that she has a firm understanding of diplomacy? Didn't she accompany her husband to foreign countries as our representative? Wasn't that part of her job as First Lady?
Husbands and wives are normally confidants. Hillary is a smart, curious woman who would naturally be interested in her husband's job and his ideas; what better teacher than her husband, a seasoned politician and statesman?
Bill Clinton's flaws are personal, not professional, and even then, Hillary has proven herself loyal and dependable in her support for him in the most despairing times.
Michelle Obama also belongs to the church that her husband attends; it is difficult to imagine Hillary sitting through a church service with a minister spewing hate.
I cannot believe that her loyalty toward Bill would supercede her loyalty towards, us, the Americans that she has chosen represent and serve. ALL of us.
Posted by: Abby | March 23, 2008 6:56 PM
why are Clinton supports so dumb?
Posted by: Joe Canadian | March 23, 2008 6:56 PM
Govenor Richardson is a looser. Vote with your state....unless you are an Obama supporter. Hillary won NM and Gov. Richardson voted Obama. (Do as I say not as I do.) In the debates, Richardson said Obama lacked experience, now he suddenly has it! Richardson said he decided once he heard the speech...now we find out he decided two weeks ago! He aired his dirty laundry by stating that the phone call to Hillary got heated...even if it did, he's was wrong to say anything...no class there!! When you do things like that it comes back on you in a big way....it will!!! Why are you so afraid for Hillary to keep going....are we going to find out more things about Senator Obama?? Me thinks yes...me thinks alot more damage has been done than you know!!! Me thinks the republicans will bring Obama down!
Connie your comments were right on target.
This is typical of the Obama campaign and its supporters. They say one thing and do another. Obama claims walks around fooling them saying he is going to unite us all, we are all the same, we deserve better. Then on the weekends he sneaks away to a church where the pastor promotes Division, Hatred towards White Americans, Hatred towards America....he insinuates the people of 911 deserved what they got.
I think Obama just wants Hillary to quit before more information regarding Wright and the American Terrorist Mr. Ayers comes out!
Well America wants Hillary to stay....at least we know what kind of church she goes to...it ain't Pastor Wrights!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 6:57 PM
Election '08, the gift that just keeps on giving. You go, Dems!
Posted by: SukieTawdry | March 23, 2008 6:58 PM
Do any Democrats really believe that Hillary Clinton will win the nomination? Hillary will not have an advantage in pledged delegates, states won, or the popular vote after the voting is completed. How does this end without going to the convention? Does she expect there to be a surge of superdelegate support?
Posted by: Steve | March 23, 2008 6:59 PM
Ha! Richardson is right....we need a new generation......he's the old generation. He's so yesterday!!!
Posted by: jkml | March 23, 2008 6:59 PM
Republicans said it over and over and I didn't believe it. Bill and Hillary will resort to anything to get the nomination.
Looks like Morris went to the same Atwater school of political sh*t slinging as Karl Rove.
Posted by: Roy | March 23, 2008 6:59 PM
Chris Dodd, John Kerry, Edward Kennedy, Bill Richardson.......hopefully Joe Biden and John Edwards. What else do the Clintonians want more than these great names of the Democratic Party?
Posted by: Joan | March 23, 2008 7:02 PM
I will say this... just because you don't like Obama doesn't make Hillary the logical choice.
All I can say is that Hillary must be very special. She can get a southern redneck to vote for a black man from Chicago. She is bringing the races together in a way that I didn't believe possible.
Posted by: Ombudsman | March 23, 2008 7:02 PM
If anyone wants to know how America could select Bush over Gore, then Bush again after a dreadful first four years, all they have to do is read the comments in this blog.
Politics by lies and name-calling.
Whether you agree with him or not, Richardson has every right to endorse whomever he believes is best for the country. He's been a great public servant in the past and I hope he remains so in the future.
And for those of you who say you'll vote for McCain if your candidate (Hillary or Barack) isn't eventually selected, be my guest. You probably voted for President Bush four years ago and have been complaining ever since. You make your own bed.
Posted by: amaikovich | March 23, 2008 7:03 PM
I'm proud of Governor Richardson. Despite the Clintons using their Jedi mind tricks on Hispanic voters and insinuating that Hispanics wouldn't vote for an African-African, Governor Richardson proved that he has a mind of his own.
It was obvious how the Clintons really feel about Hispanic voters when Mark Penn was quick to dismiss and minimize Richardson's endorsement.
Posted by: Enrique | March 23, 2008 7:04 PM
"Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton practice "gutter" politics and that they feel entitled to the presidency..."
Richardson was MADE by Clinton.
Reminder: He was a Yahoo Congressman from Tumbleweed NM and was brought into UN Ambassador post...a cabinet position,
and Energy Secretary by those he chose to defame as practicing gutter politics.
Just WHAT part of this eludes you? Is it his lack of character? Is it his hypocricy? Is it his trustworthiness? Is it his honesty? Is it his selfishness?
Of course, he has reasons...too much Clinton and bad politics.
And you can't see throught this?
Here's what you are going to get, children: You are going to get another George McGovern candidate (now I admire Sen. McG. and voted for him...but the parallels are obvious and the conclusion apparent) in Obama. Obama will lose the centrist Democrat votes and the Republican swing votes to McCain. And we will have Pres. McCain.
Only a blinded, cognitively obscured and naive individual could miss this one.
It ain't rocket science to figure it out.
Posted by: jatox | March 23, 2008 7:04 PM
svreader: You have contacts. Check on this and tell us about Huma Abedin and her "friend" Hillary. You can use the same sources who helped you find all that info on Obama. Do your research. We are waiting.
Posted by: Huma Huma | March 23, 2008 7:05 PM
Folks,
4 years of president obama will essentially be a (self) MUZZLING of the press.
The Kid-glove treatment will continue into the foreseeable future.
If you detest Clinton, vote for Nader. IF you're "neutral" then vote for McCain. He isnt a typical whit..I mean a typical right wing hardliner.
WAKE UP.
Posted by: WAKE UP | March 23, 2008 7:07 PM
TO ALL YOU HYPOCRITES CURLED UP IN FETAL POSITION HURTING DEEPLY AT THE "TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" REMARK:
Obama's grandmother is a typical white person of her generation. Born in pre-1930, raised with absolute certainty about white superiority in America. She's not a bad person, she's capable of loving a person of color with all her heart but, she is who she is with the failings of occasionally slipping back into that mindset. No matter how much you rant and rave, there is nothing particularly controversial, unkind or divisive about that. It's simply true.
Wright is a typical black person born and raised to adulthood in the Vietnam era. He served his country with honor in Vietnam and was welcomed back with racism. His unproductive, divisive anger has never gone away, just like the anger of whites offended by affirmative action and job discrimination for sins they did not commit.
Many young people of all races and religions, an overwhelming majority in fact, have heard their parents say racist things at the dinner table. Their parents heard their own parents say even more extreme things. It gets a little better as we go along. Clipping quotes into conveniently misleading and divisive de-contextualized sound-bites to serve your campaign purposes does not change reality.
You're all still in denial. Vote for McCain if you want but it doesn't change the fact that as generations go on, America gets less and less racist. That's the good news in all of this.
You don't have to vote for Obama to start fighting racism. You can be Republican and fight racism, you can be Democrat and deny racism exists. Obama stood there without any campaign logos to give that speech for a reason. He wasn't asking for your vote; he was asking you to think and confront the reality of race relations in America.
African American slaves went to church under trees far, far away from their masters to get hope and inspiration. The church was the place where they were free to speak out in ways they couldn't while at work. That is the history of black churches in America. If their experience then was so different from their "Christian" slave masters, how could their desire for theology that reflected their own experience be racist, particularly when juxtaposed against those who didn't consider them equally human?
White people should be less afraid of being accused of being racist and more willing to say, "hey, maybe I too have biases that I need to work on." Same applies to black people, we need to realize that we are racist too in the way we exploit our victim status and needlessly mistrust white people who mean well. Those are important first steps that rise above this BS of hypocritical outrage.
Posted by: asja | March 23, 2008 7:07 PM
Obama gets many cons and who have flowered under clinton.
Richardson thinks he will be VP with Obama.
I loose respect for obama with every passing day.
He has nothing except borrowed words from Dr. King and Keennedy and others like them.
Posted by: Shawn | March 23, 2008 7:08 PM
Richardson has seen the light - that Obama will win and that the democratic in fighting has to stop. The Clinton's reaction to Richardson is telling - the name calling and indignation at independent thought shown by Clinton cronies should give all Clinton supporters pause.
Say what you want about either candidate they may well bring each other down (although I think Clinton will try to help Obama lose out of spite if she doesn't get the nomination) but if you ask me the guy that has really helped us get to the divisive point we are now is John Edwards - He hasn't come out and backed either candidate and he has enough popular weight that his endorsement would have the Psychological gravitas to shift a majority of support to whoever he endorsed. By waiting to side with one or the other - he has helped snuff out the chances of the Democrats recovering the White House.
Posted by: Jumpin John | March 23, 2008 7:09 PM
I can just see the Republican ads
WAR HERO vs. SENATOR WHO DEFENDS ANTI-AMERICAN PROPOGANDA
WAR HERO VS. SENATOR WHO DEFENDS PASTOR WHO BELIEVES 911 VICTIMS DESERVED IT.
Posted by: chula | March 23, 2008 7:09 PM
If one heard Bill Clinton's latest remarks concerning the patriotism of John McCain and Hillary Clinton, and that they would make great opponents, one can only assume he was saying that Obama (by ommission in that statement) is not patriotic; That, is mud-slinging at its lowest level. I am now able to see the Clintons in a way I never thought possible, but Truth is often "ugly", and the Clintons have shown their ugly selves.
Posted by: Amy | March 23, 2008 7:11 PM
IN HONOR OF THE POOR WHO FROZE TO DEATH IN OBAMA'S SLUMS:
OBAMA'S SLUMS by "W.P. Svreader"
Based on Chicago by Graham Nash
So your voters froze to death,
And they found us in your slums,
Won't the press come to Chicago
Just to see,
In a land that's known as freedom,
How can such a thing be fair?
Won't the press come to Chicago
So their souls can finally rest?.
You say change the World.
Rearrange the World.
We're dying
You give us words..
Politicians act like clowns,
Give you nothing but hot air
You used us in Chicago.
For your pride.
Don't ask Obama to help you
Cause he'll turn the other ear.
Won't the press come to Chicago
To see his other side?
He says change the World.
Rearrange / rearrange the World.
We're dying / do you believe in justice?
We're dying / and we have no freedom.
We're dying / We have a right to llive!
You say -- Rules and regulations who needs them?
Open up the door.
Our souls must be set free,
I hope the day comes soon.
Obama come back to Chicago,
:Let the world see your real face.
From the bottom of the ocean
To the mountains of the Moon.
Barry come back to Chicago
You're a traitor to your race!.
You say change / yes we can change the World.
Rearrange / rearrange the World.
We're dying / We demand our justice
We're dying / You don't deserve your freedom.
We're dying / We have a right to life..
You say -- Rules and regulations, who needs them?
Open up the door.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 7:11 PM
Who ever that McPeak guy he spoke as Obama looked on.
These are very negative campaign.
If obama is the nominee i will support John he has credivbility, stands up for what is right (NO PRESENT votes). This guy is a completely air.
Posted by: Derrick | March 23, 2008 7:11 PM
I'm not worried about John McCain. When it comes to affiliations with controversial religious leaders, McCain has not shortage of them. With a war that is once again deteriorating and an American economy that is sinking by the day, John McCain's promise to continue Bush/Cheney policies will sink him.
Posted by: Enrique | March 23, 2008 7:13 PM
I'm not worried about John McCain. When it comes to affiliations with controversial religious leaders, McCain has no shortage of them. With a war that is once again deteriorating and an American economy that is sinking by the day, John McCain's promise to continue Bush/Cheney policies will sink him.
Posted by: Enrique | March 23, 2008 7:13 PM
The Clintons do not, have not and will not pull people together. One has a choice and only one. Follow ! all else is betrayal. This from a man who betrayed the trust of all Americans while president. Sex with an intern in the Oval office while his wife is upstairs. A man of honor.. Sad
Posted by: Pax Dominus | March 23, 2008 7:13 PM
seems like Richardson is a gutter politician...
it also seems like he's a shrewd judge of character,
since he's being paid to support obama, by some right wing conservatives....
yeah, you can always trust the Hillary haters to have repulsive scammer backing....looks like they promised richardson a place atthe inauguration of Mitt Romney, once mccain falls.
.
Posted by: hello | March 23, 2008 7:14 PM
Bill Richardson demonstrated a lot of courage by supporting Obama. He knew he'd come under fire. But he did it anyway.
And I couldn't disagree more with Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell. He said that he believes Democrats are mostly concerned about winning. I'm a Democrat, and that's not all I'm concerned about. Should Hillary win the nomination, sadly I feel compelled to vote for McCain. I had my fill with eight years of a Clinton white house a few years ago.
I think Obama will clinch the Democratic nomination, and I don't think there is much equivocation on that point. At this juncture, it is just a lot of wistful and wishful thinking on the Clinton's part to believe she has a real chance when the chips are all down.
Posted by: LanceZ | March 23, 2008 7:14 PM
Obama is brilliant and will reach out to the slime masters of the planet and try to "manage them up" by giving them the ounce of respect that they want on the world stage. Even Chavez and the Iranian hijacker president will be hard pressed not to give sincere concessions to a new U.S. president whose multiracial countenance shows the world that we are a good and just society, which those scumbags elsewhere should emulate. Sometimes you have to stop beating the child and instead, invite them to sup at the high table with the rest of the grown-ups. Hillary cant do that....hell she cant even sniff out strange puss on her husband's breath. McCain looks like he is about 100 years old and the onset of his Alzheimers disease will coincide with Inauguration day...forget him now: he will not be a healthy choice for president. Vote for Obama. All of the democrats need to unite now. Don't let old Bill Clinton screw us again!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:14 PM
ASJA
Sorry but you are so WRONG...there is no way you can defend the use of biggoted remarks like "typical white person".
If you add this statement to the statements also made by Obamas wife...about not being proud to America and America being mean...along with the racist and anti-white, anti-american views, you finally get a clear picture about what Obama thinks fo America and it's people.
It's not a pretty picture...maybe that's why he never left that church because he believes in their views.
Americans will not vote for anyone that defends hatred and racism.
We're better than that! So we will say no to Obama in November no matter how you try to spin it!
Posted by: Chula | March 23, 2008 7:15 PM
Nome of them are who I really want, So, once again, I guess I have to vote for the one who won't screw me the most.
A Military veteran,, who gave you a lot of year's of freedon.
Posted by: joebald | March 23, 2008 7:16 PM
Loyalty is the hallmark of the Bush Administration. Disagreement was the cause of expulsion from the inner circle. The results of loyalty is a group of sycophants blithely following their leader down all sorts of false paths.
Richardson did the right thing by supporting the person he felt would be best for America. There is a higher loyalty which doesn't depend on returning favors and doesn't lead to "me too-ism."
Posted by: svand | March 23, 2008 7:16 PM
The OBAMA snow job is right. Why did Michelle Obama get a $200,000 raise/promotion from her employer when her husband became senator?
I think if this had happened to Bill Clinton it would be thoroughly questioned.
Obama then earmarked $1 million for her employer -University of Chicago Hospital--which was not granted by the senate.
This raise and its timing would rub MANY Americans the wrong way.
Posted by: mark | March 23, 2008 7:17 PM
The OBAMA snow job is right. Why did Michelle Obama get a $200,000 raise/promotion from her employer when her husband became senator?
I think if this had happened to Bill Clinton it would be thoroughly questioned.
Obama then earmarked $1 million for her employer -University of Chicago Hospital--which was not granted by the senate.
This raise and its timing would rub MANY Americans the wrong way.
Posted by: mark | March 23, 2008 7:17 PM
ASJA-I hate to tell you this, but you're not very well informed, like your guru Obama, about the "typical white person" remark -when Obama threw his white grandmother under the bus. You see, the idea that women, black OR white can be afraid of black men that they see behind them at night IS NEITHER ILLOCAL NOR RACIST NOR AN OUTDATED BELIEF, IT HAPPENS TO BE A STATISTICAL FACT THAT BLACK YOUTHS HAVE A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF BLACK ON WHITE, AND BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, AND PARTICULARLY IN HIGH CRIME NEIGHBORHOODS.
Apparently, you don't remember what the Rev. Jesse Jackson said a few years back, and he got into a lot of trouble with the black community about it. He said that he was walking the Chicago streets one night, and became apprehensive as he was aware that a group of male youths were behind him, but when he turned and saw they were WHITE BOYS, HE WAS NO LONGER AFRAID. He used that honest example to open a dialogue on young black men and race, and he took a great deal of flak from the black community for his honesty-an honesty that Obama would never dare to show!
Instead, Obama needed a crutch to get out of the Rev. Wright controversy, so he exploits his poor white grandmother's views, which are shared by many women and men, black AND white-particularly those who live in high-crime neighborhoods, as a racist "typical white persons" view of her age group, and disingenuously equates his grandmother's "view" with his relationship with Rev. Wright! It would be laughable if it wasn't so serious-but it was breathtaking in its dishonesty and opportunism! Obama is DISGUSTING, ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING TO ME-THE MAN EXHIBITS ZERO LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND ZERO CHARACTER.
Posted by: FARFALLE44 | March 23, 2008 7:17 PM
Bravo Bill Richardson, you supported your nation over Hillary.
Obama is clearly the better candidate notwithstanding the recent Hillary surge because of her campaigns desperate struggle to survive by going very negative attacks on Obama.
However the people who think Hillary would be a better candidate should realize that in a McCain Hillary matchup, McCain would destroy Hillary because of her huge past baggage because unlike Obama, the Republican lie machine will swifboat Hillary's pretty white rear straight back to New York, an ugly sight for sure.
Hillary should stop feeling bitter about losing and support Obama because despite what she thinks she does not have a entitlement to be the first woman President, no matter how many times she may have practiced her Presedential inauguration address in front of a mirror since she was a little girl, please give it up Hillary,.....its all over.
Posted by: Rick Shaw | March 23, 2008 7:17 PM
I'm amazed there are posters here who don't know how to spell the word "lose" or "loser". How astute!
Posted by: patrick | March 23, 2008 7:18 PM
All you Clintonistas keep accusing Obama of having a Messiah complex. What do you do with Carville's comments comparing Richardson with Judas?
Posted by: tom | March 23, 2008 7:18 PM
sounds like the repulsive scammers are still out in force pretending to be
the bama backers.
the reality is, the bama is all show, with no core values....for all of his rhetoric...
he is the guy that comes into the job interview and doesn't answer questions about
the work that the project requires. He talks in generalities, addressing generics...
there are no generics to address. the United States is held in stasis by very specific things....none of them having to do with color.
everyone would have a future if everyone had a job of worth. period...
old steel mill jobs paid a good salary with some retirement benefits...
Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen have been singing about the plight of disenfranchised laborer for some time now.
w/o laborers doctors and lawyers don't have jobs either.
HILLARY CLINTON has a clear eye to cast on the situation.
The only ones to say otherwise are INSIDER WASHINGTON politicians...
hired by Halliburton, AEI, Bechtel, KBR, DYNCORP, CACI, Blackwater, the Petroleum INSTITUTE, Carlyle Group, drug traffickers, and those on the
war profiteering dole...
their lives depend upon you not electing Hillary Clinton,
YOUR LIVES depend upon you electing HILLARY CLINTON, and the knowledgeable people she will bring in.
Make a difference in your lives, attempt to understand the difference between sugar, and real food...
.
Posted by: hello | March 23, 2008 7:18 PM
The betrayal of Governor Richardson to the Latin Community is unforgiveable, we as a group have supported Senator Clinton by overwhelming numbers, in his lack of wisdom the governor has failed to see that under an Obama administration we will be consider just an other minority, I can assure you we are not! And what's more we don't consider ourselves one!
I urge the Latin Community to support Senator Clinton now more than ever; our support for her will not be forgotten. Senator Clinton is the only candidate ready to take charge from day one.
Obama will never be an advocate for the Latin Community; he will be involved with the likes of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright and others to see anything else.
Wake up America.
Posted by: A. Moreno | March 23, 2008 7:18 PM
"I know a lot of Hillary supporters who are not running their mouths about it,"
Never met one yet. They're dumb, but loud!
Posted by: tom | March 23, 2008 7:21 PM
By his endorsement of sen. Obama, gov. Richardson has proved to be a true patriot and loyal citizen the United States. He has chosen collective interests over personal benefits. He has chosen to serve America, as opposed to serving personal friendships. And his patriotic act could not have come at a better time. It came at "Passover" (Pass over, Passing over), which is a time during which we are called to sacrifice ourselves for others. Gov. Richardson has sacrificed his Clinton-related personal interests, be they actual or potential, in order to help achieve the highest common good for all Americans. Shouldn't each son and daughter of this Country applaude him?
Posted by: Roland | March 23, 2008 7:21 PM
It's interesting how many Obama supporters on this post are calling Clinton supporters "dumb," "ignorant" and "uneducated," etc. Those kinds of comments from the Obama folks certainly are reflective of the people supporting Obama AND the candidate himself. I'm an educated person that is voting for Clinton in November ... or McCain if by some unfortunate circumstance Obama succeeds in stealing the Democratic nomination.
Posted by: mo897 | March 23, 2008 7:22 PM
Hillary is a miserable liar. Vote for her now tomorrow she will throw you under the train and follow her lobbyst
Posted by: McDon Dickson | March 23, 2008 7:23 PM
In the very unlikely event that Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, she simply cannot be elected (even though she would be running against a former man). She can't win because she, Bill and, at their direction, other members of her campaign, have said things about Barack Obama that will not be forgiven by a large number of voters. These are the same voters who originally would have glady accepted Clinton or Obama.
Unfortunately, the people she has appealed to through divisive techniques are now more likely to vote for John "100 More Years of War" McCain than for Clinton. Clinton is playing a dangerous game -- and she's losing. So are the American people.
Posted by: Gardenia | March 23, 2008 7:24 PM
In the very unlikely event that Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, she simply cannot be elected (even though she would be running against a former man). She can't win because she, Bill and, at their direction, other members of her campaign, have said things about Barack Obama that will not be forgiven by a large number of voters. These are the same voters who originally would have glady accepted Clinton or Obama.
Unfortunately, the people she has appealed to through divisive techniques are now more likely to vote for John "100 More Years of War" McCain than for Clinton. Clinton is playing a dangerous game -- and she's losing. So are the American people.
Posted by: Gardenia | March 23, 2008 7:25 PM
"Too bad - I don't think Hillary is entitled, but she is a far more electable person than Obama."
Except for the fact that she's behind by any measure you want to count....
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:25 PM
I hope Clinton wins the nomination and the Presidency just so that traitors like Richardson can end up in the toilet where they belong. He made some kind of deal with Obama, sold himself to the highest bidder. Loyalty to the people who made you what you are is soooo last century.
Posted by: Traitor | March 23, 2008 7:25 PM
Svreader - given that you post the same thing over and over (and over and over) again, copying is hardly a charge you should throw around. Congratulations for lowering the general level of discourse.
In regards to your post planning to leave the Democratic party if Clinton loses, please do so with all speed. You've done more to damage the Democratic party than any number of right wingnuts.
BB
Posted by: Fairlington Blade | March 23, 2008 7:26 PM
Republicans playing with themselves again.
Posted by: ONEFREEMAN | March 23, 2008 7:26 PM
So I question what good will the idiotic
endorsement of conartist Barack Obama by
the biggest phony fat slob loser in the
Democratic Party Bill Richardson, the
Hispanic Racist at this late date,since
the reality is Barack Hussein Obama has
Imploded and his 2008 Democratic Presidential Campaign is toast...And which
all the Obamabotmanic Cult cannot accept
yet and it only shows how desperate Obama
and Company are after all Obams's phony
masks and lying pretty words distraction
exposed Barack Obama for the fraud and liar
and sleazy crook and racist con man that
Barack Obama really is as well.
Posted by: Claudine | March 23, 2008 7:26 PM
Is it true that Hillary was using Chelsea and the 8-year-old Bosnian girl [see the wire service photo] as human shields against the sniper fire she reported at Tuzla?
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:27 PM
What is the above comment talking about?? We will have a riot if Obama is not elected....Where did that come from??
Concerned Voter..Already tired of all the rhetoric..
Posted by: Southern Voter | March 23, 2008 7:28 PM
Prejudice exists within every human being, between siblings, blacks, whites, browns, yellows, rich, poors, intelligents, stupids, beautifuls , urglies and etc. That is an issue we have to deal with it. We can not get rid of if but can make it less servere by education. Race has been and will be a factor in our society. Slavery and the mistreament towards blacks are facts but they were in the past. Look at the success of the blacks in all areas especially in education and politics , who can deny the effort of the governments in helping the blacks to be where they are? In the old time, Chinese workers were not allowed to associate with locals. They had to live undergound to avoid being shot at by some crazy white men who just did not like their look. They were angry,of course, but they did not let that resentment destroy them. They have improve themselves by working hard and be self efficent. I do not know why the blacks still use slavery as excuses for many of their problems. Get over it. Rev. Wright has no excuse to make those awfull remarks about the goverment. Mr. Obama has portrayed himself as a person who can make good judgement but the more I know about him the more I find him unbelievable. He's not qualified to be a leader of The U.S.A.
Mr. Richardson's endorsement is the same as Mr. Kennedy's and Kerry's. No effect whatsoever.
Posted by: hong | March 23, 2008 7:29 PM
FARFALLE44 ,
As a matter of fact, I absolutely agree with you that you are more likely to be harmed by an African American youth than a white youth. There is nothing racist or offensive about that statement.
Obama first mentioned his complex relationship with his grandmother on race 13 years ago in his first book, Dreams of My Father. If you have no time to read it, it's available on iTunes for $15.95. The notion that he threw his grandmother under a bus is a popular response to his speech, but groundless.
Black parents, even with the little they had, could and should have done a better job raising their kids over the last 40 years. America, despite its flaws, is still the best place in the world to be born black. Affirmative action, if it should exist at all, should not be race-based, but class-based.
I am, by no means an Obamabot, I am trying to communicate that there is too much hypocrisy and inconsistency in the way people look at the world on both sides to move forward. People are stuck labeling and point-scoring. When there are possibly more black men of college age in prison than there are in college, you have to look beyond racism for a credible explanation for that. When there are more black heart surgeons than black NBA stars, you have to look beyond affirmative action for that. This is a complex matter and it doesn't help to start with hypocritical offense at remarks that are simply true, no matter how much they hurt.
Posted by: asja | March 23, 2008 7:31 PM
To Gary and all the other Obama-haters (overt and covert): Don't get mad, get SMART...
PS: Enjoy your gonad sandwich.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:31 PM
Prejudice exists within every human being, between siblings, blacks, whites, browns, yellows, rich, poors, intelligents, stupids, beautifuls , urglies and etc. That is an issue we have to deal with it. We can not get rid of if but can make it less servere by education. Race has been and will be a factor in our society. Slavery and the mistreament towards blacks are facts but they were in the past. Look at the success of the blacks in all areas especially in education and politics , who can deny the effort of the governments in helping the blacks to be where they are? In the old time, Chinese workers were not allowed to associate with locals. They had to live undergound to avoid being shot at by some crazy white men who just did not like their look. They were angry,of course, but they did not let that resentment destroy them. They have improved themselves by working hard and be self efficent. I do not know why the blacks still use slavery as excuses for many of their problems. Get over it. Rev. Wright has no excuse to make those awfull remarks about the goverment. Mr. Obama has portrayed himself as a person who can make good judgement but the more I know about him the more I find him unbelievable. He's not qualified to be a leader of The U.S.A.
Mr. Richardson's endorsement is the same as Mr. Kennedy's and Kerry's. No effect whatsoever.
Posted by: hong | March 23, 2008 7:31 PM
To Gary and all the other Obama-haters (overt and covert): Don't get mad, get SMART...
PS: Enjoy your gonad sandwich.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:31 PM
A house divided cannot stand.
(you know who)
Posted by: AnimociTeeze | March 23, 2008 7:33 PM
Being a foreigner I am allowed to ask silly quastions I hope?
Wouldn`t it be valuable and fair to "combe through" the two (Clintons and Obamas) senator-schedules and compare what they have brought about in different matters.
The future in the World is very uncertain and I think that the candidates in some way have to prove their ablility to meet unexpected challenges. In my opinion you have to have a president who acts with the solution as the main focus och is prepared to desist from her/his personal opinions/ideals if that serves the solution.
Inflexibility and rigidity can, in my opinion, counteract solutions. Thus, which one of the two candidates is most suitable in those respects?
European
Posted by: George | March 23, 2008 7:33 PM
Although Richardson may not come out and ask you Hillary Rodham Clinton, your constituency will - please step down. It has been made clear that your only path now to the nomination would literally involve a majority of the Super-Delegates to go against the political winds of change and overturn the delegate vote. Think carefully about what this means to you, if not our Democratic Party. Do you want to be remembered as the primary destructive force responsible for tearing apart this Democratic Party? You have the window to bow out gracefully with dignity in tact. Fact is, if you are successful with SD's - you literally won't win in November if our party is destroyed in the process. I am a working class middle-aged white voter that is in full support of Democratic principles, but the truth is - both of your stances are virtually identical on all the issues. Any differences in implementation are not going to generate a delegate difference great enough for you to catch up. As it stands, the only option you really have left, is to spit on fellow Democratic Party members to boost your own appearance and its making ALL OF US LOOK BAD. Please step down, before this gets any worse so w can all move forward and heal.
Voters in PA need to take a hard look at both campaigns here for the Democrats from a very real standpoint. Voters need to ask themselves some very important questions and be honest with themselves about their answers.
1. Which campaign has demonstrated the organization, leadership, inspirational motivation, overwhelming grassroots growth, and consistency of message since Iowa?
2. With content of character being at the very core of Democratic values, which campaign is truly committed to genuine transparency, advocating full disclosure of any and all monetary sources (ie. where did a spare $5,000,000 come from?)
3. Which candidate is truly less polarizing and has the greatest ability to reach across party lines in Congress to actually get things done in Washington?
4. As a Democratic voter, does it matter if one campaign destroys another with all out negativity, essentially arming Republicans with damaging political ammo and a more likely victory for Republicans in November? (While it may be fair, is it ethical?)
5. Which candidate offers the clearest contrast to the current administration appealing to the overwhelming sentiment that where we are is not where we want to be?
6. While it doesn't necessarily affect the political process here in the U.S. - does it matter to you that there is overwhelming International support for one of these candidates and do you think that this support might ultimately strengthen the U.S. alliances worldwide?
Open, honest answers to these questions should help decide what our country says to world as the largest free Democracy.
It should be noted that most of the entire country had no idea who Barack Obama was 1 year ago and looking over the growth and support graphs over the past few months should be a clear indicator as to where the U.S. wants to go.
Posted by: StraightShooter | March 23, 2008 7:33 PM
You tell 'em, Bill Richardson.
The Clintonistas tried everything they could to get your endorsement.. and you told them to go jump in a lake.
Good for you. You'll make a great VP.
Obama '08!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:33 PM
To Gary and all the other Obama-haters (overt and covert): Don't get mad, get SMART...
PS: Enjoy your gonad sandwich.
Posted by: Ntlekt | March 23, 2008 7:34 PM
I am Judas Richardson and I approve this message.
Posted by: kenn | March 23, 2008 7:34 PM
To Gary and all the other Obama-haters (overt and covert): Don't get mad, get SMART...
PS: Enjoy your gonad sandwich.
Posted by: Ntlekt | March 23, 2008 7:34 PM
To Gary and all the other Obama-haters (overt and covert): Don't get mad, get SMART...
PS: Enjoy your gonad sandwich.
Posted by: Ntlekt | March 23, 2008 7:34 PM
Richardson is a traitor. Ragardless what he said and how people feel about him.This guy betrays his good friends.
Posted by: Peter | March 23, 2008 7:34 PM
"Too bad - I don't think Hillary is entitled, but she is a far more electable person than Obama."
Except for the fact that she's behind by any measure you want to count....
Uh, Anonymous 7:25pm, you don't know what you're talking about, I'm afraid: CLINTON IS NOT BEHIND WHERE IT COUNTS THE MOST-THE SUPERDELEGATE COUNT
AP Wire Services:
Independent website RealClearPolitics.com puts the superdelegate count at 248 for Clinton and 213 for Obama as of Sunday.
Posted by: FARFALLE44 | March 23, 2008 7:34 PM
The Clintons need to go. I've had enough of their nonsense as well as the Bushes - who are a just plain evil. All the way with Obama!
Posted by: Yuri Lipitzmeof | March 23, 2008 7:35 PM
HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE YET TO HAVE ANSWERED BY AN OBAMA SUPPORTER: If Hillary had been going to a "white centered" church for 20 years; the fundamental theology of the church was one of white versus black; the pastor of the church often made racist remarks against blacks; the pastor of the church gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award; and Hillary considered this pastor her "mentor and spiritual adviser"; would you give her the pass that you are giving Obama. I doubt you could answer this question honestly, so I'll tell you what would happen: The righteous indignation of Obama and the media would rise up, the demand would be made that Hillary withdraw from the nomination process immediately, and Hillary's political career would be over, period.
Posted by: Fairlington Blade | March 23, 2008 7:35 PM
Richardson Let down Latinos - Snake Snake Snake Snake Snake. Another This time it is Cheney's cousin and Richardson
Posted by: Clint | March 23, 2008 7:36 PM
change, change, give me some changes.
so I took out 50 cents and handed to him
Posted by: kenn | March 23, 2008 7:37 PM
Mr. Rendell
Stop the lies tight NOW!!
Hillary did NOT win FL or MI, and she didn't win TX, either. Check the results.
You demean yourself and your candidate with these preposterous claims.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:39 PM
Asja,
If you KNEW the crime statistics, "white" folks would fear "white" folks more than they fear "black" folks.
FYI from fbi crime stats:
10 million crimes in US
7+ million committed by "white"
2+ million committed by "blacks"
80%+ "whites" killed by "whites"
80%+ "blacks" killed by "blacks"
Murders are commited by people that know each other over 90% of the time.
Random killings are rare.
Speak the truth.
Posted by: ONEFREEMAN | March 23, 2008 7:39 PM
Come on, chula, do you know arithmetic?
18% of voters are African American, and Obama would have 100% of their votes. If he takes Richardson on the ticket, and it would be very vice , as Richardson has more of needed experience than anyone else in this initial presidential race, this ticket would get 33% more of American voters, who are Hispanic voters. I am white intelligent woman and I would ick up Obama over McCain or especially Hillary any time. there are more than enough intelligent whites, like me of both genders to create 10% more of american voters Obama would need to win with more that 50 % of casted for him votes. This is the real thing , and the end of the discussion of his electability in general election. Obama/richardson in 2008. Clinton step down, fat, ugly dummy! Enough is enough!
Posted by: aepelbaum | March 23, 2008 7:40 PM
in CHANGE we believe
Yes! we can
so I took out 50 cents from my backpocket to handed to him
Posted by: kenn | March 23, 2008 7:40 PM
"They [the Clintons] think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency."
I would say that Clinton is entitled to run as long as the race is this historically close and there is a chance she can win.
It seems to me that the Obama supporters who are attempting to bully, verbally abuse and shame her into dropping out are the ones who seem to have a sense of entitlement.
Posted by: Annette | March 23, 2008 7:41 PM
Dear Asja,
I am not a hypocritical 'typical white person' hurting deeply by Obama's remarks.
I am offended because my family actually fought to free the slaves. I have a personal, handwritten account written by my ancestor who felt so strongly against slavery that he joined the Union Army at age 14.
I curled up in a fetal position when I was mugged by two African American men when I was walking to work.
I am tempted to curl up into a fetal position when I read words written by people like you who shout and rant about racism.
Are you someone who also believes that because a slave owner that I have no relation to was brutal, that I deserved to be hit and knocked down for the few dollars that I earned as a waitress?
I don't blame an entire race for a couple of jerks, so why do you? If you can paint us all with a racist brush, why can't you paint us all with good since my great-something grandfather risked his life to help slaves? His mother must have cried buckets of tears worrying about him just as your ancestors cried in despair.
Does God judge our tears differently?
People who shout and belittle perpetuate racism. Nobody is perfect, we all have our fears; justified or not but standing on your self-righteous soapbox will not help.
Posted by: Abby | March 23, 2008 7:41 PM
So Asja, the fact that your boy Obama opportunistically used THAT particular comment to show that his white grandmother was 1. a "typical white person" and 2. racist is, what, okay by you? Because that's what he did, in a very demeaning, disingenuous and opportunistic way. It only happened because he was cornered, and when Obama is cornered, he turns into one mean and nasty SOB-like when he tried to twist Hillary's innocuous statement about Martin Luther King, calling it "racist" -even Sen. Charles Rangel told Obama he was being "ridiculous!" Oh no, the fraudster Obama NEVER engages in the politics of destruction-hell, he's inventing the term as he goes along!
Posted by: FARFALLE44 | March 23, 2008 7:41 PM
Bill Richardson coming out and calling for Hillary to drop out of the race is a well-orchestrated move by the DNC to prevent them from having to decide the nomination at the convention. They have already discounted the votes of FL and MI. They know Obama's campaign is in freefall. Hillary will make a strong showing the in the next primaries and will come quite close to Obama's counts. The will of the people will clearly be in Hillary's favor, but the delegates will have to put Hillary over the top. They don't want to be seen as disenfranchising the black vote. (Who cares about the female vote???) They'd rather have her drop out now even though voters are clamoring for answers from the Obama camp.
Obama managed to get himself labeled the "positive" candidate, then didn't allow the press on his plane or bus. Would the media have put up with this from any other candidate? How is this encouraging transparency? He managed to spin everything anyone else said as racist. Who knew fairytale was a racist word? How have we forgotten that it was another Clinton who started this race on dialogue with his Initiative on Race in 1997 and who, by choice, has his office in Harlem. The same Bill Clinton who was just flinging mud--real mud, in New Orleans as he works to rebuild. I'm not saying these are Hillary's acts--I'm saying that Obama is not the first one to 'courageously' face the race question. He faced it as he had with every other issue--only when he couldn't outrun it any longer. He faced the race discussion when it was beneficial to him. It was Hillary, not Obama, who attended the Black State of the Union to talk about race. Obama was too busy campaigning. Obama has done everything he can to stop talking about race since his speech, except to pause long enough to pigeon-hole more than half of America with his 'typical white person' remark. He HAS made as many negative remarks as Clinton--the press has babied him, though, to the point that these revelations come so late that he may well win the primary, but he will lose the general election.
Neither of these candidates will have enough delegates to win. Why can't we let the process play out? Why are the Obama supporters so adamant that Hillary quit--are they afraid of what the next few primaries will show?
Posted by: KOR | March 23, 2008 7:41 PM
Why did Bill Clinton make the "two patriotic Americans" (meaning Hillary and McCain) comment?
Could it be that he is sensing that Hillary is not going to get the nomination and Obama is not going to take her as a running mate?
Is the road to the White House for Hillary through John McCain with Hillary as his running mate in the name of bipartisanship?
Prepostrous?
Posted by: An Academic | March 23, 2008 7:42 PM
HOW SMART ARE HILLARY's Backers here, talkingabout fat?
Have you seen the CANDIDATE...FAT HILLARY waddle on up the steps at campaign stops? I do daily. Now, there's a big ugly butt.
And her chipmonk cheeks and wrinkles! Wnanna watch that grow older, screaming???
Richardson, is, by the way, a highly respected super delegate. Several others are epected to follow his lead this WEEK.
And as long as we're doing ethnic here, maybe we could talk about big, long hook noses. 0r constant sneers by the arrogant hated.
Posted by: WORLDLY | March 23, 2008 7:42 PM
Richardson sold at the border - let down the latinos - Snake Snake - Snake Snake - Work out a deal from himself
Posted by: Clint | March 23, 2008 7:42 PM
I can't beleive that so many Democrats are writing that they would rather "switch" than "fight" for our country. These types of comments are silly. Who in their right mind would ask for more pain, more lies, more deception by continuing down the darl path after the 8 years of degredation courtesy of the current administration? What kind of self-hate-speak is this?
Posted by: Leroy C. | March 23, 2008 7:43 PM
I am Judas Richardson and I approve this message.
Posted by: kenn | March 23, 2008 7:44 PM
Chula:
I have always loved my country, I have not always been proud of it. I was not proud of slavery and all the discrimination that was in the country's laws not allowing women the vote etc. etc.. I am not proud of the country's international standing in Iraq, where the strategy has failed. That doesn't mean that I'm not a patriot who would die for this country.
There is absolutely nothing unpatriotic about not feeling proud of you country all the time. There is something patriotic about standing up and disagreeing when the country you love strays from its true path.
Again, if you would like to spend your energy debating the english language while paying $4 for gas and leaving festering wounds of division unresolved for another 3 generations, go ahead.
You don't have to vote for Obama to change America, listen to what all the candidates say, vote your choice and play your part in making America a better place. It's more important to be "for" something good than against someone. Don't lie to yourself that a president is going to change everything if you and your neighbors do nothing about the state of politics in America today.
Posted by: asja | March 23, 2008 7:44 PM
The Clinton's care about as much for the Democratic party as a tick cares on whose body it lands. Win at any cost is not the motto of someone trying to unite the country it is the motto of a parasite using the country to satisfy their self rightousness and we've gone through eight years of that we don't need more nor do we need dynasties I am a lefty but I cannot vote for Clinton though I will vote for the underticket just because I think this country needs more than bush clinto bush clinton, it needs a reality check and a democrat who thinks moreof the party than their ownb ambition and to have an exdemocratic president who isn't an adulterer and a liar plus a Democrat who stands up for real Democratic principles something billary doesn't get.
Posted by: henry | March 23, 2008 7:44 PM
Note to David G: For years I have waited to see the word "troglodyte" used in a sentence. Thanks for making my day, and for providing an apt description of 90 per cent of the posts here. I'm reading the posts not so much for enlightenment as for the ineptitude that borders on the comedic. Heaven help us if these contributors are actually registered voters!
Posted by: SootyC | March 23, 2008 7:44 PM
Gov Richardson a Judas? Wow! Who was that guy who was watching Superbowl with the Judas? The High Priest?
You tried everything,the Hispanic-friendly card to the loyalty card, too woo the Judas. When everything failed, Gov Richardson's endorsement of Barak Obama is now deemed betrayal. Do we taste sour grapes here?(!).
The truth of the matter is, the real colors of the Clintons are being revealed day after day. Their dirty politics - win by any means strategy - are there for all to see, Gov Richardson included. It didn't take him too long to see the gutter politics employed by the Clintons to achieve their selfish goal.
While the Clintons are chipping away the national support for the Democratic Party, Senator Obama is doing all his best to win more and more voters to the party. There in lies the difference.
Gov Richardson hit the bull's eye when he concluded who is an asset and who is the liability to the Democratic Party. Rightfully so, party interest took priority to personal friendship. If that is an act of betrayal, so be it.
Clintons come and Clintons go. They are not an institute, but the Democratic Party is. Gov Richardson, the party faithfuls salute you, Sir, for your unwavering loyalty to Democratic party.
Posted by: John Santiago | March 23, 2008 7:44 PM
As a McCain supporter, I have to say, this set of comments is hillarious. Democrats are so comical. The Republicans nominate McCain and yet it is the Dems who come out divided?
Hey Carville, if BR is Judas, which Clinton is Jesus?
Posted by: John M | March 23, 2008 7:45 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55, which in turn will create an oil Glut, lowering the price of gas to $1.25,
you will be kissing his,
well, you know were this is going........
If Bush wasn't bought and paid for,
he might grow a pair do this.
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 7:45 PM
TROOOOLLS in the comments... Why does the Wash. Post attract such name-calling illiterates? Words is bad, we hates them that talks good. Crawl over to FOX"News".
Posted by: Angela | March 23, 2008 7:45 PM
Randall,
Actually, most of my posts are about Obama's Slums.
Why do Obama's supporters keep trying to drive other posters off these boards?
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 04:19 PM
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Actually, the boards are for intelligent discussions , svretard. Maybe that is why sooooooooooooo many people wished you would go download your porn - I mean - save your so-called silicon valley company and leave this to folks who don't rely on right wing wacko sites for their news.
Posted by: LABC | March 23, 2008 7:46 PM
LeroyC-
That's just republicans playing with themselves. That's not democrats.
Posted by: ONEFREEMAN | March 23, 2008 7:47 PM
oh please make this last -i love to see this EVIL couple in misery. Clinton cant WIN -there are so many people -myself included, that will vote for anyone but hillary -YES I WOULD EVEN VOTE FOR CHENEY!!!
Posted by: makethislast | March 23, 2008 7:47 PM
Bill Richardson is right to back Obama and may add a crucial voice in calling out the Clintons on their politics of power and fear. Sen. Obama is far from a perfect candidate but those who have been drawn to his campaign see a combination of integrity, intellect and wisdon that any good president needs. Of course as is always in politics he sometimes "has it both ways," but he does not engage in the "Politics of Personal Destruction" a tactic, ironically, the Clintons so decried in the 90's.
I also am tired of the sense of entitlement that the Clinton's seem to have about the presidency. I ask all to keep in mind that under their leadership, despite a good economy and relative peace, the democrats lost both houses of congress and loss numerous state houses and governorships. They did not inspire a resurgence of a new democratic majority, but mostly dodged and weaved through conflict and of course, the largest scandal of all, the Monica Lewinski affair.
Time to turn the page.
Posted by: MAS | March 23, 2008 7:47 PM
man you winers think that the world has very little respect for the USA now. Elect Hillary Clinton and see the backlash round the world. You are loved everywhere compared with the hatred that will come you way with this woman as your leader.
some writers are right the two candidates are so busy tearing each other a new A-hole (sorry hillary bill will have to find another hole to crawl into) that they have lost sight of what is best for the country.
May god protect us all.
Posted by: anthony | March 23, 2008 7:47 PM
I am Barack Hussein Osama Bin Laden and I approve this message.
Posted by: mcbird2008 | March 23, 2008 7:48 PM
Don't any of Obama's Supporters care about the poor who died in Obama's Slums?
Hypocrites are the worst kind of people.
Barry's the biggest hypocrite of them all.
America's finally waking up.
He belongs in Jail.
Poor People of all colors suffered and died for Barry's EGO in Obama's Slums!!!
Will they ever get any justice?
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 7:48 PM
Fairlington: As I stated earlier today, Hillary Clinton's career would be over if she had merely uttered the words "typical black person" in talking about an issue in the black community, immediately-she would be out of the race, and maybe out of her job as Senator. On the other hand, Obama can use those words talking about his white GRANDMOTHER, for god's sakes, and people hardly blink!
ONLY OBAMA IS PERMITTED TO BE RACIST, -INSULTING AND ENGAGE IN THE POLITICS OF DESTRUCTION-ONLY HE GETS A FREE PASS, AND HE'S GIVEN A FREE PASS BY THE MEDIA AND HIS BECAUSE HE'S BLACK, PURELY AND SIMPLY.
Posted by: FARFALLE44 | March 23, 2008 7:49 PM
I love the slant of this article, by the way. Not "Clinton campaign sees Richardson as traitor", but "Richardson says Clinton campaign practices gutter politics" for calling him a traitor, which he most certainly is. Feeding the stereotypes to sell a few papers, are we?
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:49 PM
Bill Richardson: statesman, American, patriot. Thank you for standing for your convictions and for the good of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Meldupree | March 23, 2008 7:50 PM
John McCain did serve his country well. It's a pity that the policies that he embraces would destroy the country that he loves. While we continue to love precious lives in this needless war and sink billions of our dollars in Iraq, China, India, and Russia are building roads, bridges, trains, and factories. John McCain will lead to American defeat in Iraq and in the global economy.
Posted by: Enrique | March 23, 2008 7:51 PM
Where's the news that the new pastor at Obama's church has called the public outcry over Wright lynching...geez, where have we heard that before? How can we have a dialogue on race when no one is allowed to criticize an incendiary black pastor?
Here's a handy guide to the Obama doublespeak we've all had to learn to decipher:
What he says: I will do everything in my power to be sure the delegates from MI and FL are seated. (said in Sept 2007)
What he means: Unless I lose there
What he says is: We have played by the rules.
What he means is: If you're talking about NEW rules where I say superdelegates should vote the way their constituents did in the primaries and caucuses. Except for Kennedy and Kerry.
What he says is: Race should not matter in this campaign
What he means is: Except for when I strongarm black superdelgates into voting for me.
What he says is: I was opposed to the war since the beginning
What he means is : except that I wasn't in the Senate then, but I was voting 'present' a lot in the Illinois Senate on the tough issues. I also supported John Kerry who voted for the war and embrace Jay Rockefeller's endorsement even though he voted for the war.
What he says is: Republicans who vote for Hillary are anxious for her to be the candidate to beat in November
What he means is: Republicans who vote for me prove I can get the crossover vote in November.
What he says is: There was no meeting in Canada
What he means is: Unless you caught me...and you caught me
What he says is: I reject and denounce Louis Farrakhan's support
What he means is: Hey, Louis--no hard feelings. I was backed in a corner. I haven't mentioned it since the debate. Maybe it will go away. Let's go shoot a round of golf together.
What he says is: I am the candidate that can unify this country.
What he means is: But I only campaigned in the black areas of Mississippi and I never visited the areas devastated by Katrina. I know what a typical white person thinks though.
What he says: I promise to use public financing in the general election.
What he means: Unless I make it to the general election
What he says: Resko who?
What he means: Oh that Resko..
Posted by: LMC | March 23, 2008 7:51 PM
why are the repulsive scammers selling you anyone but Hillary? because their lives depend upon you making the wrong choice...
they can control the hama, look how he treated Wright.
about the economy and the choice between o mama and Hillary, you guys have it bass ackwards...
it's pretty simple....as the Monty Python People said, "No one expects the Spainish Inquisition."
no one expected AMERICA's corporations to harvest the middle class, and then say
why isn't the economy working.
Look goofballs, no one expects things to keep getting worse. The people of the nation, the citizens have "no voice in Congress,"
outsourcing strips all of the jobs and ships them overseas, and credit card companies start having people declare bankruptcy on the credit card companies so what does Congress do???????
passes a law, that says a judge may not excuse a debtor from his debt even if it occured through no fault of his or her own....
what would happen if judges could still excuse a debt that was incurred through no wrong doing ?????
they would find out why people couldn't pay their bills....because the CORPORATIONS WOULD BE SUFFERING
and since CONGRESS ONLY LISTENS TO THE CORPORATIONS, and not the citizens, there would be action taken....
so, don't bail out the corporations, bail out the citizens...
the citizens didn't okay the fricking loans....the corporation did...
and people, the Bear Stearns buy_out ????
all of the people working at Bear Stearns lost their PENSIONS, off-the-top
how cool is that, speaking of harvesting the middle class...
how many people do you know that have no pension any more ????
ARE YOU CRAZY ????
you morons writing these articles, quit sniffing glue....
lendors okay the loans and validate them....people don't expect things to keep getting worse....IT's NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE...
and we have never had such corruption in charge of the UNITED STATES BEFORE...
and pounding sand down a rathole called IRAQ, that returns nada to the people of the United States as the war profiteers get bonuses and the boys and girls come home to
nothing after giving everything...
we need to hold a couple of quick trials and shoot some Executive Branch and State Department Members....to serve "as an example of what we do to the corrupt who choose the DOLLAR over COUNTRY, the treason artists!"
make an example of them _s_o_o_n_
the rest will flee the country and we may take possession of all they own.
.heh heh heh....
.
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Posted by: hello | March 23, 2008 7:51 PM
John M wrote:
Hey Carville, if BR is Judas, which Clinton is Jesus?
-----------------------------------------
We will all get to witness a Clinton crucifiction come November.
Posted by: AnimociTeeze | March 23, 2008 7:52 PM
throw a few more under the bus. we's gunna need a bigger bus, eh? dat be a whole lotta fightin goin' on. it'll be 2012 before the dems get their party back together after this mess. hope nothing unfortunate happens to obama before a nominee is picked, cuz those clintonistas have a target on his back. does he have a food taster too?
Posted by: gary larson | March 23, 2008 7:52 PM
F Blade
Obama is in need of no "pass" I actually did some research and while Wright said some stupid things that are just plain wrong - I took the time to listen to a few of the full sermons that are not being aired (ie it isnt news) The "chickens are coming home to roost" stir for example Wright is quoting a WHITE Ambassassador Peck in a sermon shortly after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
Actually I agree with Wright on his movement for peace and loving God & Jesus. Take note of the "footnote" than give some thought to what you hear out of context. Not for one second do I believe the notion that Obama hates anyone - Wright has some generational issues regarding racial divisions - he isnt the only one. There is no "pass" needed here. Last I heard it is a free country and something about an ammendment regarding free speech but more to the point - Obama said that he strenuously disagreed with divisive comments making it clear that Obama's intent is to bring people together to make our country better not only for us but for our children.
Straight Shooter - PA
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:53 PM
How can anyone forgive Barack Obama for letting the people who elected him freeze to death in unheated slums?
Is human life so cheap to them?
Is winning worth so much more?
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 7:54 PM
With each passing day, Hillary Clinton is making it clear that she seeks to sabotage Barack Obama's chances of winning in November. Hillary might as well endorse John McCain for president. She would rather punish the entire country and subject us all to the disaster that McCain would create, then help save us from the failures of George W. Bush.
Posted by: Enrique | March 23, 2008 7:54 PM
Are you people actually reading these post. Obama fans, do you feel that if a person doesn't say anything glowing about Obama than it is seen as negative? Part of the problem when reading post on just about all of the forums, is all of the mean spirited and name calling by Obama fans towards Senator Clinton and her supporters. You all throw around liar more than anything. It's funny that you ignore negative things Obama says or does but jump on anything the Clinton's say or do. This is why many Clinton supporters are just sick to death of Obama. He seems to attract such a mean group of people who in fact seem to think he is the chosen one.It seems he is the one, his fans seem to be saying that he is entitled to be the nominee just ...because...
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 7:54 PM
They (the Clintons) say that Obama's speeches are "Messianic" and yet they refer to a former staffer as Judas? I guess it's typical for HRC...just like her other Delusions of Grandeur.
Posted by: John Bailo | March 23, 2008 7:55 PM
svreader, wassamatterwithyou? Angry at Richardson? Richardson did what is good for the Democratic Party and the future. I hope all the other superdelegates or automatic delegates (whatever) see the pending implosion of the Democratic Party while Bill/Hill try to take them hostage. I say boot Bill and Hill out from the party. Believe you me, if Obama was down 160 delegates, the Democratic would have hasten his exit by now!
Posted by: meldupree | March 23, 2008 7:56 PM
Abby,
You are not from Obama's grandma's generation, period.
You are a sucker for punishment for trying to take offence for something you shouldn't. Furthermore, if your grandparents were friendly to black people in the 1930s, they would have suffered ostracism and been branded "n-lovers" and they certainly would not be typical of the times.
In the early part of this century, the most unelectable thing a presidential candidate could be is be branded sympathetic to blacks, even in the more "progressive" parts of America. Read the history of the United States and inform yourself.
Nobody deserves to be injured by a criminal. I'm sorry it happened to you. If you read what I'm saying carefully enough you realize that I'm making the emphatic point that part of the racism problem in America gets better with every passing generation. Both sides have a lot of anger within them, but it gets better over decades. It can only move faster with more honest discussion where people don't hide behind hypocritical outrage about remarks that are true.
Denying America had a "whites are the supreme race" culture in the 1920s and 1930s is like denying the Holocaust or the fact that the earth is round. What's so difficult to accept about that? Things have changed but a lot of work remains.
Posted by: asja | March 23, 2008 7:57 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55,
This in turn will create a world wide oil Glut,
Lowering the price of gas to $1.25 a gallon,
You will be kissing his,
Well, you know where this is going..........
If Bush wasn't a slave to his Arab masters,
He might grow a pair do this on his own.
But, Chaney would never allow it,
And George never was that smart let's face it,
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 7:57 PM
REASONS TO SKIP TRINITY CHURCH THIS SUNDAY
I've been tithing to Barak Obama, so he could spend that $1.5 million a day in 2008 for his narrow lead over Clinton.
I have to online social-network for Obama day and night to keep my facebook friends.
I'd have to pass that carriage house where ex-slaves once hid and seeing that legacy of white oppression quite understandably makes me feel like blowing up the Twin Towers.
Chris Matthews will be there dancing and clapping, and he's dangerous!
Hey, even gangsta rappers avoid Trinity because it's too angry, paranoid and negative.
When he sees me, Rev. Wright yells, "Get out! You ain't never been called a N-----!"
Obama's wife won't be proud of me even if I go :(
Posted by: AsperGirl | March 23, 2008 7:58 PM
Oh for Pete's sake! WHY is Richardson a "traitor" for backing Obama? Carville would be slobbering all ovet the place if Richardson had come out for Clinton.
Voting and supporting candidates could/should be private - but let me tell you something, there are a lot of Republicans like me who feel that McCain is a very nice man, but that his time has passed, and we need someone fresh and different. Clinton sure as heck isn't new or different.
Did Obama's campaign call Rendell a traitor or any other names, for supporting Clinton? No. Only the Clinton camp does that sort of crap.
I would never, ever, ever vote for Clinton, but Obama has my money and my vote. He's the voice of change. Embrace it.
Posted by: Republican for Obama | March 23, 2008 7:58 PM
All of you Clinton supporters who are whining incessantly about Bill Richardson making an honest choice about who he thinks will be the best president seem to have the same arrogant sense of automatic entitlement that your overrated candidate does. Nobody is "required" to back Hillary and nobody "owes" her or her tacky husband a damn thing, and your infantile rants sound more like sour grapes from a group of spoiled and immature partisans who have been dreaming of another Clinton presidency since 2000, and who are offended that things arent going their way. Anyone who thinks a "liberal" version of Fox News would be a good thing needs to just listen to people like you, to find out that when it comes right down to it, you are just as corrupt and dishonest hypocritical as the blindest "dittohead". To quote your beloved shrew, "shame on you".
Obama WILL get the nomination, and if that concept offends certain blatantly racist Democrats so completely beyond all logical reason, then you go ahead and vote for Nadir or McCain, white bread. After that, you can ask yourself who is the real "Judas" in this equation, because it isnt Richardson, who is a helluva lot more honest on his worst day than the Clintons are on their best. The last place Id ever want to find myself is in the same camp of agreement as a disgustingly inbred extra-terrestrial worm like James Carville.
This proud INDEPENDENT will be even prouder to help elect President Obama and his running mate, Vice President Richardson, in November. All of these venemous shrieking pseudo-Republican Clintonoids can plant Hillary where the sun dont shine and leave her there, especially since that's the kind of dark and negative environment that she thrives in. There's always 8 years from now, kids ... oh that's right, she wont be nominated then either. Oh well, dont go away mad, just go away, and leave the voting to people with enough digits in their IQ score to make an intelligent choice in November.
Posted by: Saint Subversive | March 23, 2008 7:59 PM
leroy c., onefreeman--
You're kidding yourselves if you think we Dems won't prefer McCain over BO. You'll see that we weren't Repubs on election day, when the exit polling takes place and the Fraud Candidate BO loses, with our help.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:00 PM
Is human life so cheap to them?
Is winning worth so much more?
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 07:54 PM
Actually, svreader, that would be Hillary Rodham Clinton. Heaven only knows how many people she has thrown under the bus to get what she wants. Make up stories of danger, and pad that resume as well. Maybe you need to hire her for your company as a consultant after August; she might be free to do some work for you.
Posted by: meldupree | March 23, 2008 8:00 PM
Bill Clinton was a very good President and had some of the highest approval ratings of any President in modern history. Obama realizes that's a problem for him, hence, the constant race cards and false accusations hurled against him. Obama has done more to split the Democratic party than anyone; and, I also believe that by the time he is finished, he will have set race relations back 50 years. What a pity.
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 8:00 PM
Bill Richardson is just another in a long line of former Clintonites to be repulsed by what they've seen now that the curtain is pulled back.
Where was Hillary's outrage when FL & MI first voted. Typical of her campaign, she'll ignore you until she needs you. She stopped taking questions from the public in Iowa; DC, MD, VA are meaningless in her eyes; big states are what count. Just like big biz and powerful lobbyists, show the money and she'll fight for you.
A vote for Hillary means we haven't learned a thing in the past 8 years.
-Independent for anyone but...
Posted by: Richmond, VA | March 23, 2008 8:00 PM
Richardson obvsiously didn't come to the decision to support Obama easily. A lot of good Democrats are sick to death of the Clintons and their sense of entitlement. Hillary Clinton literally rode her way to success on the coattails of her husband.
I won't support dynasties and don't think she's the most talented or qualified for the job. She did a terrible job on health care reform and supported the Iraq war.
If I have to vote for her in the general election, I will, but it won't be enthusiastically.
Posted by: Just Mark | March 23, 2008 8:01 PM
If James Carville tries to make people think he is somewhere between a fox and a jackass, the Judas statement puts him squarely on the side of a jackass. It is not to be taken too seriously. It is not so much in the gutter as just plain silly.
Posted by: steve clark | March 23, 2008 8:01 PM
Bottom line for me is if Hilliary's experiience was so VALUABLE, why didn't she run after Bill? Answer. SHE HAS NOT EXPERIENCE! Her so called experience is being the first laday as such all the other first ladies.
Another point: If her experience to so much greater than Baracks as a State Senator...Why don't she point that out! Answer. IT'S NOT! Barack has worked on and passed just (if not more) bills as a State Senator as she has. People pleas pull their senante records and you'll see. Believe me if she could run off her senant record as "most experience" she would.
Posted by: x4faith | March 23, 2008 8:01 PM
I think the theory that the Clintons are using a slash and burn strategy against the party is a sound one. They (and their supporters) keep getting uglier. Just look at the hate-filled comments posted here. The super-delegates need to start taking a stand now, to put an end to it one way or the other.
Posted by: VerbalKint | March 23, 2008 03:53 PM
++
Well according to Obama, the Superdelegates need to follow the will of the people. How can they follow the will of the people if they all haven't voted yet. One thing...this is probably true of all politicians, but Obama too wants to win at any cost, and work the rules to his advantage...He says he is above that. He's just an ordinary politician...that only cares about winning.
Posted by: Badger | March 23, 2008 8:02 PM
Barack Obama's not going to get elected to anything.
People are beginning to find out what kind of person Barry Obama really is.
The truth will be end of Barry Obama.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 8:02 PM
I just wanted to express my opinion on your recent endorsement of Obama. I would not wish for a friend like you. To me friendship is paramount. It is principles.Loyal friends stay not only loyal but offer support when most needed. Bill Clinton gave you good positions in his administration. Sure - you qualified for those positions. So it worked for his benefit too. But they were asking for your support. As a friend I think you should have offered your endorsement to Hillary Clinton. I would not go as far as what Carville had to say. But certainly in a thousand years I pray to God that I would not want to have a friend like you. Your excuse about Obama's speech as the turning point and the Clinton's campaign staff as the reason to throw your support for Obama is weak. President Clinton by all accounts was asking for your support. The least you could have done for whom you still call your friends is to extend your support. You have no shame to call them your friends.
Posted by: nazirmo | March 23, 2008 8:02 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55,
This in turn will create a world wide oil Glut,
Lowering the price of gas to $1.25 a gallon,
You will be kissing his,
Well, you know where this is going..........
If Bush wasn't a slave to his Arab masters,
He might grow a pair do this on his own.
But, Chaney would never allow it,
And George never was that smart let's face it,
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 8:03 PM
AsperGirl, your red neck is showing!
Posted by: meldupree | March 23, 2008 8:04 PM
Gov. Richardson is obviously envious of the Clintons, and that's okay, he is a terrible spokesman for NObama. Couldn't handle the straight talk of Gov. Rendall because he knows already he's made a mistake. If NObama manipulates this and gets the nomination, it will foster a huge new political front: Democrats for McCain!!!
Posted by: Jesus Francisco Cardenas | March 23, 2008 8:04 PM
If James Carville tries to make people think he is somewhere between a fox and a jackass, the Judas statement puts him squarely on the side of a jackass. It is not to be taken too seriously. It is not so much in the gutter as just plain silly.
Posted by: steve clark | March 23, 2008 8:05 PM
Though Obama is as "American" as the other candidates, the PERCEPTION that the rest of the world - certain parts of it anyway - gets, is that America is crying Uncle, by electing a Guy named Barack Hussein to the presidency.
Yes, on the surface it DOES sound juvenile/racist/hateful (and other putrid names you can call it), but its the truth of PERCEPTION... This is what that the congressman from Iowa was pointing out.
The rest of the world isn't made up of enlightened, latte-sipping liberals, whose hatred of America will disappear because we elect an inexperienced-white-liberal-who-looks-black in the hopes that the rest of the world will be fooled and will start celebrating what America stands for in this world. The last 5,6 years of missteps by the Bush administration doesn't necessarily require such "European" response of electing Obama to be president. America will be LAUGHED at, instead of feared. We want neither.
The constitution is based on the fundamental premise that men are not angels. Its idealism is expressed through cynical, m/distrustful mechanisms. This is why the president can appoint justices but cant fire them. Congress can make laws but can not appoint officers to execute them.. and so on. It is... TEMPERED idealism.
PLEASE temper your idealism with the realism of a broader context of human nature - an awareness of how other cultures (outside the starbucks zone) function and perceive.
Posted by: Stockholm Syndrome? | March 23, 2008 8:06 PM
How quickly you idiots and lost lambs forget. First off...Obama will lose to McCain. Only an idiot would think otherwise. Secondly, your rejection of Clinton is beneath stupidity. You forget the success of a structure that is in place to initiate our nation's renewal. So you place your hats with a neophyte who claims 2 yrs experience as Senator and a number of years as a "Community Organizer." Period. Ever think of the learning curve involved in establishing a functioning presidency? Two years sound reasonable to you? Two wasted years...Well don't worry...he'll lose to the Repos because of no swing Repo vote and no centrist Demo vote. But you idiots can't think that far. You place your faith in hope. And you will hope you've enough carfare to pay for your bus trip home after this one is over.
Politics is not the hygienic endeavor you'd like it to be.
And it never shall be. Doctrine idiots you are to presume as such. And a bit ignorant as well. I've run outta nice things to say about you. Party Poopers.
Posted by: jatox | March 23, 2008 8:06 PM
the bush crime family,
you pay their bills even if you don't know it...
Neil Bush Silverado Savings and Loan, NCLB software...required in Florida
and JEB BUSH, Brother to George W. and Neil...you buy his business headquarters for him...
JEB BUSH, the George W's brother. After graduating from The University of Texas, Jeb Bush served a short apprenticeship at the Venezuelan branch of Texas Commerce Bank in Caracas before settling in Miami, in 1980, to work on his father's unsuccessful primary bid against Ronald Reagan. Shortly after arriving in Miami, Jeb was hired by Cuban-American developer Armando Codina to work at his Miami development company as an agent leasing office space. A couple of years later, Jeb and Codina became business partners, and in 1985 they purchased an office building in a deal partly financed by a savings and loan that later failed.The $4.56 million loan, from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida, was granted in such a way that neither Codina's nor Bush's name appeared on the loan papers as the borrowers. A third man, J. Edward Houston, borrowed the $4.56 million from Broward and then re-lent it to the Bush partnership. When federal regulators closed Broward Savings in 1988, they found the loan, which had been secured by the Bush partnership, in default. As Jeb's father was finishing his second term as vice-president and running for the presidency, federal regulators had two options: to get Jeb Bush and his partner to repay the loan, or to foreclose on their office building. But regulators came up with a third solution. After reappraising the building, regulators decided it wasn't worth as much as was owed for it.
The regulators reduced the amount owed by Bush and his partner from $4.56 million to just $500,000.
The pair paid that amount and were allowed to keep their office building.
TAXPAYERS PICKED UP THE TAB for the unpaid $4 $MILLION$....Jeb got a piece of property valued at about 5 MILLION for .5 MILLION....you ate the rest...
SEARCH ON BUSH CRIME FAMILY
1.5 MILLION ENTRIES, stories articles about these hucksters...selling your lives out from under you and berating you for not being patriotic enough or trying hard enough...
these fools have never worked a day in their lives,
THEY ARE CONARTISTS...plain and simple.
.
and they backing the baaaaaaaaaaaaa ma
Posted by: hello | March 23, 2008 8:07 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55,
This in turn will create a world wide oil Glut,
Lowering the price of gas to $1.25 a gallon,
You will be kissing his,
Well, you know where this is going..........
If Bush wasn't a slave to his Arab masters,
He might grow a pair do this on his own.
But, Chaney would never allow it,
And George never was that smart let's face it,
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 8:07 PM
As an Edwards supporter who switched to Clinton, I have said repeatedly that I would be glad to vote for Obama. I have good friends in his campaign. However, I am becoming so alienated by the hate and racism from Obama's supporter and the fawning on him by the press, that, should he get the nomination, I may sit this one out. I simply distrust the MSM too much to buy what they're selling. Additionally, I'm not sure that I could stand 4 to 8 years of inability to criticize the president without being labeled racist. The pit we're in now was dug in large part because the Press refused to do its job when Bush 43 was elected. Most people recognize that now. How will the institution that was afraid to criticize Bush because they thought he was too nice treat Obama, whom they believe is both "nice" and untouchable because he's black?
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:08 PM
I had been a big Clinton supporter throughout his presidency and would have supported Hilary, albeit with reservations, if Obama had not appeared on the scene. It is now clear that the worst of Clinton's foibles are coming out in his wifes campaign: in a desire to get elected above all else they feel they have the right to say or do whatever is necessary. This includes casting aspersions about Obama's patriotism, trashing former colleagues (Richardson) because now they disagree in good faith, and making grandiose claims of influence in her husband's administration. Obama really is a breath of fresh air, and a long way from the politics as usual approach of Hillary.
Posted by: dmp | March 23, 2008 8:08 PM
I can't see myself voting for Hillary if they choose to get nomination by gutter politics. I rather vote for McCain who is a true patriot and a decent man. Otherwise, Obama is my choice. We don't want the greatest country be like other countries where families own political agenda and nation. So, it will soon be Chelsea running for presidency. enough of this nonsense.
Posted by: Dev | March 23, 2008 8:09 PM
Is there any truth in what is said on the site blow? If so, Obama should be disqualified!
Posted by: George | March 23, 2008 8:09 PM
The fact that Obama went to that hateful church for over 20 years shows that he is a hypocrite. If I went to a church where they preached hatred I would leave out of principle. The Obama people have been the ones playing the race card all along. When someone like liberal icon Geraldine Ferraro gets accused of being a racist-- well, who are the ones playing gutter politics!
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 8:10 PM
All these losers like Richardson and Dodd know Obama will not be elected in the general election so they will have a chance to run again in 2012.
Posted by: G.Y. | March 23, 2008 8:10 PM
This isn't a game.
People froze to death in the slums in Obama's district because he was too busy planning his run for the Presidency to do his job as a Chicago State Senator.
We he got elected to the US Senate, he still did nothing about the slums of Chicago, that Rezko got $100M to fix or replace, but people froze to death in.
Mark my words. People will be more angry about this than anything else Obama has done wrong.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 8:10 PM
Bill Clinton uses slime, the whole conversation revolved around McCain and Clinton and then he mentioned two people who love their country. That is the whole picture. And then we're told wink, wink it wasn't a dig at Obama's patriotism. Bill knows full well the rumors questioning it.
Bill and Hillary need to come out and speak about Rev. Wright and Black churches. After all they take great pride in Bill being called the first Black President.
Come on Bill you owe us one after you lied to us on national TV. Show some goodness for America instead of us having to show you ours. Stop the slime.
Posted by: Terry | March 23, 2008 8:10 PM
McClinton gets the Democratic nomination; McCain gets the White House.
Posted by: Staggo Lee | March 23, 2008 8:10 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55,
This in turn will create a world wide oil Glut,
Lowering the price of gas to $1.25 a gallon,
You will be kissing his,
Well, you know where this is going..........
If Bush wasn't a slave to his Arab masters,
He might grow a pair do this on his own.
But, Chaney would never allow it,
And George never was that smart let's face it,
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 8:12 PM
I am a writer and writers must write. I must write of what I witnessed of the Senator Barack Obama's speech, where I learned that good people are not necessarily those who read the Bible and attend church everyday. Good people are those who respect the immutable laws, laws of decency and respect, people who live above the ugliness of this world. Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton are a disgrace for Africans. Clinton Foundation is a shame and a disgrace. History will judge Clinton for calling Senator Barack Obama, "this other stuff".
I will write about this momment in history and let the world know the Clintons by their names and deeds, the worst of mankind.
Posted by: Ted | March 23, 2008 8:12 PM
Barry Obama gets 20 to life in Joliet State Prison.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 8:13 PM
bush a slave to his arab masters ???
what world are you living on ???
bush cares for no one but himself....
he uses people.
he has a $200 dollar an hour male prostitute spending the night at the whitehouse
and the boys and girls at the Washington Post don't say jack about it
because they are afraid of him, you know his dad has all those connections with
some bad boys in the CIA and the Mafia
and post writers don't have the stones to publish the truth
that the president is a user
and that they have been letting him use them
like he uses Jeff Gannon.
.the arabs using bush???? it's collusion hose'
.treason.
and the post won't publish that either
they do know it though, they are just scared little children
stealing cookies.
pen day holse
.
Posted by: hello | March 23, 2008 8:13 PM
Richardson is a hypocrite. He keeps saying he wants Clinton to drop out so Obama will win the nomination.
Richardson is a hypocrite. He keeps saying he wants the party to be "united," but in the same breath bashes the Clinton aides.
Richardson is after the v.p. slot and whoever would give it to him, got his endorsement.
The Obama people thought the latinos would go for Obama when Kennedy endorsed him - that didn't happen.
Richardson couldn't even get votes for himself, how can he help Obama?
Posted by: Grace | March 23, 2008 8:13 PM
As for as Barack being a community organizer...America is one HUGE dysfunction community in desperate need of a willing functional ORGANIZER...Barack '08. AGAIN I ASK...IF HILLARY'S EXPERIENCE IN THE WHITE HOUSE WAS OF SUCH OF VALUE...WHY DIDN'T SHE PICK UP AFTER BILL LEFT OFFICE? AS FOR AS LYING GOES...HILLARY IS AN EXPERT! HOW CAN SHE LOOK IN THE CAMERA WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND LIE ABOUT ALL OF THESE TRIPS SHE'S TAKEN AS FIRST LADY.
Posted by: x4faith | March 23, 2008 8:15 PM
I hope Clinton wins so the Obamanites can get the mental treatment they need to undo the brainwashing. At least they'll have healthcare to pay for it. Obama's campaign injected race from the beginning but to take the distraction away twist the words of Bill Clinton. Obama's speaches were a fairy tale not his race, a President did have to be strong and go against the grain to get MLK's vision to be accepted. It would be nice to have two patriotic candidates focus on issues and not distracted by he said she said bickering. Both campaigns are guilty and should stop before the entire democratic party is so far apart that they can't come together.
Posted by: Clinton 09 | March 23, 2008 8:15 PM
Hillary Clinton can't even give her husband some good head and she can't even run her household right so how the hell can she run this country. Her husband lied on national t.v and she was foolish enough to believe him. Has Obama cheated on his wife that the people know about? not so far, so that means that he's doing something right in the room and she keeping him happy. And it seems to me that a lot of white people are upset because many are being called out and to tell you the truth, many blacks are not afraid of a white people hell even whites aren't afraid of their own. And also if it's so embarrassing then why practice it don't dish out what you can't take.Obama stay focus and don't get caught up in this mess cause it is a tactic that many whites like to create cause some can't stand to lose (especially a fair and square one)Your educated and know what you are talking about compare to some and that's what's pissing some of the whites off. However their are some blacks that are scary too so I do agree with what some people say about blacks.
Posted by: Mr.X | March 23, 2008 8:16 PM
Obama supporters need to get off their high horses and see the slums of Chicago.
If Barry Obama does as much for America as he did for the people in his State Senate District, we'll all freeze to death.
He's the biggest fraud ever to come out of Chicago, and that's saying a lot.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 8:16 PM
Sex scandals in the senate etc. Our country went through one impeachment already - I think I would call this the Audacity of the Clintons - do they seriously think the voters are THAT STUPID? I mean to think that we would put her "and Bill" BACK in the White House as our BEST Democratic representative - let's ignore all the dirty politics of the present for a moment ... do we really want that nonsense all over again? The Clintons moral scorecard is very low but the worst part about it is that they assume it won't come up in a general election - excuse me - these are Republicans we're up against this November and the only serious message coming out of the Clinton campaign is vote for me because I can get Universal Healthcare done this time - promise - I can pull independents and Republicans to make UHC happen (I know i couldnt before - but now im less divisive) and I have better commander in chief skills as I had to duck sniper fire in Bosnia ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRSxz5zNkk
(oh nevermind I was lying about that) oh and I really NEVEr supported NAFTA - (please ignore whats in those 20,000 that you wouldnt release until a court ORDERED you to)
Enough is ENOUGH - STEP DOWN
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:16 PM
Just one more thing: I just returned last week from Dubai, a country located in the United Arab Emirates (Cheney has been there for over a week, in Oman, which borders Dubai). President Bush was in Dubai this past January. I was there two weeks ago.
I was interested to know what the average "Emirati" (a native person of the Emirates, of Dubai) thought about the American election. I didn't have to wait long to find out. To a PERSON-THEY ARE FERVENTLY HOPING FOR A BARACK OBAMA WIN. In fact, I got into an argument at one 5 star hotel in Dubai with a man who had some real ugliness on his face when I made the case that Obama was a fraud with no experience. The other natives I talked to (as opposed to non-natives) were very much of the same thought; you see the, Barack HUSSEIN Obama is very meaningful in this part of the world!
The reason I was so interested in getting a read on the locals in Dubai is because I know, that 2 of the 18 9/11 hijackers were from Dubai.
Posted by: FARFALLE44 | March 23, 2008 8:17 PM
Grace: Are you another one of Hillary Clinton's sour grapes minions? Her Majesty Hillary Clinton and her thugs have lost the Primary. Get over it.
Posted by: Get real | March 23, 2008 8:17 PM
Richardson should not use his mouth like that, as a respected elder/diplomat.
The difference between Hillary and Obama is less than 1 million people and less than 200 delegate counts.
People who keep saying Hillary will never be able to win enough delegates NEED to ALSO say the SAME THING about Obama: Obama, too, will NEVER be able to win enough delegates, as things stand right now and as things seem to be proceeding.
People --- especially reporters who purport to know some statistics --- should think before they say stupid things, which, without htoughts, they think are actually smart observations.
Posted by: Her Lao | March 23, 2008 8:18 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55,
This in turn will create a world wide oil Glut,
Lowering the price of gas to $1.25 a gallon,
You will be kissing his,
Well, you know where this is going..........
If Bush wasn't a slave to his Arab masters,
He might grow a pair do this on his own.
But, Chaney would never allow it,
And George never was that smart let's face it,
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 8:20 PM
Sour grapes on Richardson's part. Who does he think he is, a future Dicky Cheney?
Posted by: Michael1945 | March 23, 2008 8:20 PM
And Obama never lies. hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
and I have some votes to sell you in FL and MI. Less than half the market value and an adjoining lot too. For a real special price a fron row pew seat next to Oprah.
Posted by: all politicians lie | March 23, 2008 8:21 PM
Richardson should towel off his wet back and quit being such a hypocrite. Obama is the false messiah and is going to creamed by McCain if he gets the nomination. When McCain wins by a landslide, where are Kerry, Kennedy, and Richardson going to be -- hiding with egg all over their ugly mugs!
Posted by: SpiderMike | March 23, 2008 8:21 PM
richardson deserves nothing but contempt. he was the worst of the presidential nominees on the democratic side-his experience was useless because it was just history.he has none of hillary's charisma.
obama is the one playing gutter politics.
he cynically called hillary a democrat from poonjab.it was a racial slur directed toward asian indians.
then he told idaho-keep your guns and the illegals 'i will give you citizenship'.he has no character or principles.
his supporters called hillary a monster.
he distorted hillary's health care proposals in ohio and got thrashed anyway. after loosing every big state other than illinois.
he will get routed in all the red states that he has won, if he is ever nominated.
he lived in indonesia for 10 years. then he grew up in hawaii.there is nothing about him that is black or white.but calculating and devious as he is, he is manipulating both blacks and whites.his supporters are calling asians racists because they supported the candidate who is by far better than him, hillary. he has sparked tensions between all sides and split a great party-the democratic party. he is slinging mud on hillary, who has done a lot for everybody, while he used power to further his own ambitions all the while.
it is disgusting to hear his supporters call bill clinton a racist.he is the only successful democratic president since john kennedy and the party's supporters are very proud of bill.
i don't want to speak of bill and obama in the same breadth. bill is a superacheiver and obama a big flop.
but none of this is the real problem.the problem is his resume is empty. and the fire and brimstone in his speeches indicate that he should be running for minister in some church, not president.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:23 PM
Barry Obama is a cold-blooded killer by way of negligence.
People who voted for him in his State Senate District froze to death in Obama's Slums.
Obama supporters need to get off their high horses and see the slums of Chicago.
If Barry Obama does as much for America as he did for the people in his State Senate District, we'll all freeze to death.
He's the biggest fraud ever to come out of Chicago, and that's saying a lot.
Posted by: svreader | March 23, 2008 8:23 PM
Ted: You said "Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton are a disgrace for Africans. Clinton Foundation is a shame and a disgrace." Here's some irony for you - The Clinton Global Initiative, part of the Clinton Foundation, has secured partnerships for the following initiatives:
$271,000,000.00 over a 5-year period for educational opportunities for 7.5 million children in Africa and Asia.
$40,000,000.00 over 5 years for critical education needs for 3,000,000 girls in Africa.
$12,000,000.00 over 8 years to improve schooling and health outcomes for girls 10-14 in Southern Africa.
Maybe someone should tell Barack Obama that trying to label Bill Clinton a "racist" is contrary to everything he has ever done in his life, and is not only dishonest, it is disgusting. *** AND TED, HOW MUCH HAVE YOU DONE FOR AFRICA, LATELY?????
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 8:23 PM
How divisive is this comment section going to get? Let's get real. Richardson should not have switched his vote against the wishes of his state. Period. What does that say about him?
Obama has mis-quoted and mis-stated lots of people (Bill Clinton, Lou Dobbs of CNN, Madeline Albright, even MLK) on purpose or out of ignorance because he is not the one who determines what he says. Clinton does it too, but she always knows she is doing it. Hillary has baggage beyond belief, but she is vetted with little surprises. Obama is young, a two year senator (2005 to 2007 since he was campaigning his entire last year). I don't believe Hillary would ever bargain for votes with cabinet posts - which I believe Richardson has been promised by the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign needed Richardson's ethnicity on his side, also. Both campaigns are fighting dirty, that's politics. However, if you think Obama's camp is not doing so with the facade of being innocent, think again.
Dems had a clear shot at victory this year. The basics of campaigning has blown that out of the water. The comments from this article alone are appalling. They both (Clinton and Obama) stand for the same things we have wanted in the White House since 2001. We have never seen a greater need for a combined ticket in the history of our country. They both fight mean, so what? They will need that spunk and roll up the sleeves to beat McCain.
Posted by: Mary | March 23, 2008 8:24 PM
This is how Hillary can win it ALL, a MUST SEE!! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfa9XIJxdAg
Please people. Let's get this nomination over asap before we humiliate ourselves further...
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:25 PM
Since I live in Pennsylvania, I would like to thank Hillary for staying in the race. I like to have a choice when I go to vote at the primary level. I think everyone of you like to have a choice when You go vote. Saying that she should have conceded months ago for Party Unity is BS. If you want to have party unity this far out in the electoral process, it shouldn't be so spread out. Why don't we just chop up the country into let's say 6 geographic regions and have all the primaries in those regions at the same time. Give the candidates 2 weeks in each region between primaries. The Primaries would be done with by the middle of April. That would give the National candidates 6 months to campagne prior to the National Convention.
On a side note I just want to say I would love a Clinton/Obama or an Obama/Clinton Presidency. But Politics being so full of BS like it is, sort of like a Boxing match, but with some of the people involved wishing it was more like a dog or a cock fight(to the death that is) I just see that as a fantasy now.
Posted by: rja112 | March 23, 2008 8:26 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how everything about the Clintons is scrutinized -people of wanting change can't move forward to today's doings. Also everything they say gets turned around to negativity. As far as Richardson is concerned he is pitiful. He talks about uniting races. Well let me tell you, I have watched the Clintons for years and they have done a lot to try to help the blacks in this country only to have the blacks turn their backs on them for another black man. Also Richardson needs to remember how much of the hispanic population has backed Hillary across the country and he calls Obama a uniter. As far as the photo with Bill Clinton during his Presidency with Wright, it's just one more example of how much the Clintons included people of every race. There were never race lines drawn for them until Obama and his cronies drew them.
Posted by: Ann K. | March 23, 2008 8:26 PM
svreader: It's not only that he is a fraud with regard to his tenure as state senator, but that way he obtained that office shows that from the very beginning, he was a typical ruthless politician. Look at this article from the Chicago Tribune:
www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story?,page=1
Posted by: Fred | March 23, 2008 8:27 PM
And, remember, Hillary is merely running an old, traditional presidential campaign, NOT a "movement".
She does not speak in stadium-filled, swooning people.
She speaks to excited people, who truly want someone DIFFERENT.....
I am a guy, an Asian American, and I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS, if EITHER of them become president.
I have never heard her speak in person; nor do I think her oratory skills are anywhere close to Obama's, but I am tired --- I mean, really, really, really, really, really tired ---- of men, men, men, men, men, men, and more men in the corridor of power, of the highest and most powerful office in this country...
I think we need someone who is genotypically and phenotypically DIFFERENT from Obama and all these endless men since Washington, ALL, by the way, who promised change and good things and good deeds.
Will Hillary ultimately prove no difference?
Very likely! But, she is a truly different species of human beings, again, genotypically and phenotypically. I like to see how that works out, as a curious monkey....
Posted by: Her Lao | March 23, 2008 8:27 PM
RICHARDSON IS ANOTHER LOSER LIKE KERRY AND OTHERS. THEY THINK BY SUPPORTING OBAMA (ANOTHER LOSER) THEY CAN COME BACK IN 2012 AND RIDING THE WAVES OF BLACK ANGER TO THE WHITE HOUSE
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:30 PM
For those who say that OBAMA LIED about not being in the church when REV WRIGHT delivered that sermon: Listen.
OBAMA WAS REALLY NOT IN THE CONGREGATION THAT DAY. AND WAS NOT IN THE CONGREGATION SOME OTHER TIMES, JUST AS YOU (ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN) MAY NOT BE GOING TO CHURCH EVERY TIME.
OBAMA CAMPAIGN DID PROVIDE A PROOF TO JOURNALISTS AND FAXED SAME TO NEWS MEDIA THAT REQUESTED SUCH.
PLEASE DON'T DISTORT FACTS IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE REAL FACTS. DON'T MISLEAD YOUR CO-BLOGGERS BY WRITING THAT OBAMA IS A LIAR.
ABOUT WHY HE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS AND DIDN'T WALK AWAY: OBAMA HAS SAID THAT HE KNEW ABOUT SOME OF HIS CRITICAL WORDS WHEN HE IS ABOUT TO START HIS PRES. CAMPAIGN, AND CONFRONTED HIM AT THAT TIME. AND WOULD HAVE LEFT HAD REV. WRIGHT NOT RETIRING.
SO, IF YOU ARE A HILLARY SUPPROTER, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION READ THE FULL TEXT OF REV WRIGHT'S SERMON IN QUESTION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HE LOVE'S THIS COUNTRY PROBABELY MORE THAT YOU DO AND ALSO THAT YOU ARE BEING DECIEVED WITH THAT FEW SECONDS OF CLIPS.
Posted by: bob | March 23, 2008 8:30 PM
When Obama lowers the speed limit to 55,
This in turn will create a world wide oil Glut,
Lowering the price of gas to $1.25 a gallon,
You will be kissing his,
Well, you know where this is going..........
If Bush wasn't a slave to his Arab masters,
He might grow a pair do this on his own.
But, Chaney would never allow it,
And George never was that smart let's face it,
Even Bill's old lady probably would,
To bad she's not going to get the chance.
Posted by: Ken | March 23, 2008 8:30 PM
Richardson sounds "defensive" to me.
I don't care who he's for or what he thinks. He didn't have enough support to stay in the priamary...so why does his opinion matter so much?
Posted by: pat | March 23, 2008 8:31 PM
FARFALLE44 ,
Oh gimmie a break, your line of argument just confirms that you're one of those people who looks at everything very shallowly.
If we are going to tar all Middle Eastern Muslims as terrorists, perhaps we should buy our oil from somewhere else. Perhaps the king of the country which had 15 hijackers shouldn't walk arm in arm with our president while a personal guest at his ranch.
Perhaps we should stop borrowing trillions of dollars to fight the war on terror and Iraq from them and raise taxes on patriotic Americans for the fight.
Perhaps, when our Wall Street bankers become too greedy and need capital injections, they should go, cup in hand to another part of the world or to Ohio and Pennsylvania to get the money to bail out their banks.
Perhaps when Boeing needs to keep American jobs in Seattle and elsewhere, it should go ask the good shareholders of Southwest Airlines to buy new planes instead of relying on Emirates and Qatar Airlines.
Perhaps, when America needs a safe, efficient port base from which to handle military supplies for our troops and shipping logistics in the Middle East to fight terrorists there, we should ask countries other than Qatar and UAE.
Insulting the allies who help us achieve our safety in the world, lend our government and banks the money we need to stay afloat and keep our country supplied with the oil we need to drive our SUVs is never a smart idea. Unless you're trying to bash Obama of course.
We need to stop depending on them because it's a relationship that causes as much resentment there as it does here, but insulting the hand that feeds you is plain stupid.
Posted by: Anonymous | March 23, 2008 8:31 PM
Honesty is the best policy and all of you know that the clintons don't know that. VIVA OBAMA
Posted by: peter | March 23, 2008 8:31 PM
B2O2
The fact that you would use the Lords name in such a derragatory way on Easter Sunday ...says alot about you and makes it clear why you feel the need to defend racist, anti-american and hatred remarks made by pastor Wright and the Senator who supports him.
Posted by: Chula | March 23, 2008 8:32 PM

I keep hearing experience, when Hillary Clinton is concerned. There is not so very much experience to find, only a lot of exaggerations.
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/its-3-am-october-12-2000/