Clinton Camp Stokes RFK Flap by Blaming Obama

By Zachary A. Goldfarb
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign accused Sen. Barack Obama's campaign of fanning a controversy over her describing the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy late in the 1968 Democratic primary as one reason she is continuing to run for the presidency.

"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context," Clinton campaign chairman Terence R. McAuliffe said on "Fox News Sunday." "She was making a point merely about the time line."

The issue is particularly sensitive given longstanding concerns about Obama's safety as a presidential candidate. (He first received Secret Service protection last May.) The Obama campaign called Clinton's words unfortunate and circulated a TV commentary criticizing them, although Obama himself said Saturday that he took Clinton at her word that she meant no harm.

Hours after mentioning Kennedy's assassination, Clinton said, "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family, was in any way offensive."

Obama senior strategist David Axelrod dodged questions about why the campaign was still circulating commentaries criticizing Clinton even after suggesting it wants to move beyond the controversy.

"We're beyond that issue now, so certainly we're not trying to stir the issue up," Axelrod said.

Asked if Clinton has personally called Obama to apologize for the reference, McAuliffe said she has not, "nor should she." He added, "Let's be clear. This had nothing to with Senator Obama or his campaign."

McAuliffe noted that Robert F. Kennedy's son -- who endorsed Clinton last November -- has said that Clinton's reference to his father's death did not cross the line.

"If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't find offense to it, why is it that everybody else should?" McAuliffe said. "They shouldn't. They ought to take Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -- he did not misinterpret it or misjudge it."

Appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation", Clinton senior strategist Howard Wolfson said McAuliffe is "absolutely right" that Clinton didn't want to apologize to Obama for the remark and said: "I think it was unfortunate to attack Senator Clinton's remarks without knowing fully what she had said."

McAuliffe said Clinton is staying in the race to give hope to the millions of women who have voted for her and "she is winning races." And the campaign chairman made clear that his boss would strongly consider pressing on if the Democratic National Committee does not allow Florida and Michigan delegates to vote at the party's convention this summer -- a decision that would boost Clinton's delegate total. The DNC's rules and bylaws committee is scheduled to meet Saturday to discuss the issue.

"We are prepared to fight this so that all 50 states are included, that the delegates be seated. Let's have no questions about that. This race is still very close," McAuliffe said.

Wolfson said the campaign believes the DNC will reinstate Florida and Michigan "100 percent. That's what they should do. That will obviously help us, but it's the right thing to do."

The Obama campaign, meanwhile, delivered a strong signal that it expects the nomination contest to wrap up in the next 10 days, after the final primaries.

"We expect on June 3rd that this process will come to an end," Obama senior strategist David Axelrod said on ABC's "This Week."

"People in this country want change. They've identified Senator Obama as the candidate who can bring that change," he said. "And we're going to be united as a party after June 3rd."

Axelrod acknowledged, "There's an enormous amount of pride and investment in Senator Clinton among millions of women across this country," and that unifying the party after a tense nomination contest will produce "some tumult in the short run."

However, he said, Clinton's "strongest supporters understand how desperately we need change in this country, and I think that they understand that this is a critical election."

One prominent Clinton supporter acknowledged that virtually all hope for her winning the nomination is gone now.

"Obama clearly has the momentum. I am a proud Hillary delegate. But I predict the race will be over soon," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). "The loser will concede graciously. "And I hope that we build what I call a unity ticket, either with both of them on the ticket or with the people on the ticket strongly representing the two bases which we will need to combine if we're to win in November over a very strong Republican challenge."

House Members Looking Ahead to November

The leaders of the Republican and Democratic House campaign committees clashed over their parties' chances in November.

Republicans have been particularly nervous recently after losing three consecutive special elections to Democrats in recent months.

"We've got a challenging landscape, no doubt about it," said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), chairman of the Republican National Congressional Committee. "But I think the fall elections are fundamentally different than a series of specials."

"We actually, if you'll recall, won all the special elections in 2006 and then got our clock cleaned pretty good at the end of the year," Cole said. "So I think once we're in a presidential year, the dynamic changes and we'll be in a lot stronger position."

Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Cole's counterpart at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, wouldn't predict a number of wins for Democrats.

"[I]t is a rough environment for the Republicans, and it's a rough environment because of the mistakes that they've made and the fact that we, on the Democratic side, have been pushing an agenda for change and they've been trying to stand in the way of change," he said. "They have really become the party of no, veto and the status quo."

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Hillary will say or do ANYTHING to become President. I wouldn't vote for her on a bet.

Posted by: 4mersupporter | May 25, 2008 5:14 PM

Tale of Two Friday Political Stories:

John McCain: "Non Cancerous"

Hillary Clinton: Malignant Ambition

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | May 25, 2008 5:17 PM

It has been said that there is nothing more dangerous than civic revolutions that do not carry out the postulates they themselves generate, and nothing more unfaithful than the public man who, when at the height of power, shows himself to be in disagreement with the doctrines that he sustained when he was in the political wilderness, and that had determined his ascent.

Barack Obama, authentic!

Hold the line on integrity and honor!

No Hillary!

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | May 25, 2008 5:18 PM

Now Obama is responsible for the irresponsible words that came from their fatigued candidate's mouth?

How pathetic is the groveling Clinton clan going to get? They are probably just getting dizzy from so much of their own spin.

Let it end.

Posted by: DonJulio | May 25, 2008 5:19 PM

This is why the "A" word shouldn't be thrown around loosely...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

Posted by: Pagun | May 25, 2008 5:21 PM

obama is a passive aggressive twit.

thinkig people know this

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 5:22 PM

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AN DALL THAT IS HOLY!

Obama gave her a pass on these comments!

Obama said he bought her explaination!

HILLARY IS A VILE, EVIL WITCH!

SHE IS THE ONE FANNING THE FLAMES HERE

Posted by: Dems in 2008 | May 25, 2008 5:22 PM

I AM A 52 YEAR OLD WOMAN.I AM HAVE BEEN SO OFFENDED BY THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN ON SO MANY LEVELS .THE FACT THIS BLUNDER SPOKE BY CLINTON NOT OBAMA IS IN SOME WAY HIS FAULT! THIS IS FINAL STRAW.

Posted by: RENEA1 | May 25, 2008 5:25 PM

O please, is our commander in chief wannabee crying again? Her campaign has been bashing Obama the entire campaign and now she misspoke again and she blaims others her own 'mistake'. How low can you go...

Posted by: robin good | May 25, 2008 5:25 PM

That's great. The HillBillies let it slip that they secretly hope that something disasterous will happen to Barack Obama before the convention and then blame Obama for it.

RFK, Jr. is a big Clinton supporter. He wasn't the one who was "targeted" by this Freudian slip. It's no wonder he found no offense. The offense was to Barack Obama and his supporters for suggesting that something so horrible could still happen. "anything can happen" says the Clintons.

This is still scary from the wife of the man who bombed a country to distract our attention from his infidelities and lies.

Posted by: THuff | May 25, 2008 5:25 PM

"Now Obama is responsible for the irresponsible words that came from their fatigued candidate's mouth?"

No Bill Burton was the first to mention this. The news , including CNN when they first reported it, did not consider it an issue and in fact had not reported it. Bill Burton's statement that it was uncalled for was the first mention of this. I happened to watch the interview before the "so called" story broke and there was no mention of Obama or inference that he might be assassinated. This particular story is utter B*llsh*t.

Posted by: RetCombatVet | May 25, 2008 5:27 PM

>>>THIS #3 ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Posted by: john | May 25, 2008 5:27 PM

Obama & his campaign ought to be ashamed of themselves. They say one thing publicly and do another behind closed doors. They've taken a truthful and honest statement by Hillary and turned it around to vilify Hillary for their own good.

I'm a lifelong democrat and I will never vote for BHO. His disgusting politics, sexism and race-baiting makes him a thoroughly un-electable canidate. I'm prepared to write-in Hilary come November if she's not the nominee.

The media is also a joke. It's not Hillary that's going to destroy the democratic party, it's Obama and his far left Marxist ideas and his willingness to say or do anything to undermine millions of voters that have been at the core of democratic party for decades.

Posted by: Hillary Deserves Better | May 25, 2008 5:28 PM

Anonymous at 5:22 PM

Are you a "thinkig people"?

Are you thinkig that Hillary will still win?

Posted by: THuff | May 25, 2008 5:28 PM

That's Hillary. Never taking responsibility. It is always someone else's fault and that just gives women a bad name. As a woman, I am ashamed of this so-called leader of my gender. Why can't she just let this drop when she was the one to make the mistake? Obama gave her a pass. Instead of being grateful, she tries to blame him. That is beyond horrible.

Posted by: Lynn | May 25, 2008 5:30 PM

Haw! Haw! Haw!

Spear chucked? Or Swiftboated?

You be de judge!

Hillary got victimized again!

Posted by: DaTourist | May 25, 2008 5:32 PM

"The news , including CNN when they first
reported it, did not consider it an issue and in fact had not reported it."

Huh? They didn't report it until they reported it?

Posted by: THuff | May 25, 2008 5:33 PM

Good lord, that blaming Obama plays into her campaign of victimhood, outrageous

Posted by: DK | May 25, 2008 5:34 PM

Well, for one thing RFK is already dead, so I don't think anybody is going to assassinate him again, but Obama is alive and I think this is kind of tickling at the edges of suggesting that maybe someone ought to do it, and that if and when they do , she'll be ready and waiting. That's just a little bit too bloodthirsty.She is psycho.

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | May 25, 2008 5:34 PM

A race this close needs to be decided at the convention, not before. That's what conventions are for, in case anyone has forgotten. The campaigns can continue until then.

Posted by: John | May 25, 2008 5:35 PM

The Senator from NY needs psychiatric care.

Posted by: byeh | May 25, 2008 5:35 PM

Suppose an Iranian freedom fighter actually unthinkably assassinated Obama (as happened to RFK), would we still be for engaging those noble Iranians in unconditional negotiations?

It's something to think about! No?

Posted by: DaTourist | May 25, 2008 5:35 PM

Clinton and her supporters are so rude and unscrupulous. I am glad this latest sick statement that Hillary Clinton has made will sink any chance that she will be included on the ticket. Blaming her sick comments on the Obama campaign is absolutely ridiculous. We must not be fooled by the Clintons and their spinmeisters any longer. It it time to end this primary and move on to taking back the White House.

Posted by: Chuck | May 25, 2008 5:35 PM

It is time for her to take responsibility for her actions and move on.

Posted by: Rachel | May 25, 2008 5:36 PM

>>>THIS #3 ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!

Good find John.

I can't believe America. The birthplace of freedom for Godsakes, is about to potentially elect a fraud with communist ties and a muslim background as president of the free world!

What are we thinking people! We are about to make a bigger mistake than when GWB got a 2nd term!

Farrahakan? Wright? The Weather Ungerground? Resko? Countless other questionable associates? Where will it end?

We've got to pursue everything, and I mean everything, to ensure this nut job doesn't get into the White House.

Posted by: The Real Truth | May 25, 2008 5:36 PM

Yeah, he's really sticking it to her. She clearly wishes she were in his shoes so she could twist the knife:

"I have learned that when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here. Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offence by it and I will take her at her word on that," Obama told Radio Isla Puerto Rico.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080524/world/clinton_remark_1

Posted by: AxelDC | May 25, 2008 5:37 PM

Don't quit Hillary!!!! Just remember that the far left members of the Democratic Party -- angry, bitter leftists like me who read firedoglake and are secure in their gender identity -- are behind you all the way.

Besides, D-Day happened in June, so anything is still possible in this race ...

Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | May 25, 2008 5:37 PM

"A race this close needs to be decided at the convention, not before. That's what conventions are for, in case anyone has forgotten. The campaigns can continue until then."

Then those 17 million voters that the Hillary Math came up with, in fact, don't matter?

Posted by: THuff | May 25, 2008 5:37 PM

The Senator from NY needs psychiatric care.

Posted by: byeh | May 25, 2008 5:38 PM

Obama and Hillary are both big drama queens!

One is scared!

The other's glad of it!

Posted by: DaTourist | May 25, 2008 5:39 PM

How on earth could she possibly think we could buy a table switch? I saw the interview and have learned she has made this exact statement before. Clinton has tried so hard to infer little negatives hoping something will stick or rub off. Olberman was right! This one has gone too far and no matter how much she tries to throw blame onto someone else we can see right into her dark and shameless soul...It's time we move on to uniting and steering to a more enlightened country. Corrupt and dirty politics are a thing of the past...

Posted by: Patrick | May 25, 2008 5:40 PM

Someone has released a copy of Hillary Clinton's bedtime prayer. Here it is:

"Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
Keep me safe through all the drama -
Just let someone shoot Obama!"

Posted by: ILoveAmerica | May 25, 2008 5:40 PM

I complete faith that a country that "clings to guns & religion" will find away to ensure Barack Hussien Obama isn't our next President. One way or the other.

Hillary will be there to pick up the pieces and ensure we win in November.

BTW I can't believe how the media has spun such a harmless comment about JFK.

Posted by: Hill&Bill | May 25, 2008 5:41 PM

The more the Obama campaign ignores Clinton and focuses on the general, the more Clinton looks like a sore loser.

The Clinton campaign wants to keep this controversy going to provoke the Obama campaign into a negative response. If the Obama campaign responds negatively it will resemble the primary more than the general. A negative response with Clinton's fuzzy delegate math is her last hope of looking like something other than a sore loser.

Posted by: A dem. | May 25, 2008 5:42 PM

Although Hillary Clinton is now in full-blown damage-control mode, the obvious literal interpretation of what she said is "Hey, if I just hang in there a little bit longer, some bigoted dork will put a bullet through Obama and I'll have a clear path to the Democratic nomination and to the Presidency."

Maybe she misspoke -- although she misspoke similarly at least once before. Or maybe it was a Freudian slip? Barack Obama, charitable as usual, attributed her remark to campaign fatigue, and no doubt that was part of the explanation for it.

Can we really get to sing "Ding, dong, the witch is dead" within the foreseeable future?

Posted by: oldhonky | May 25, 2008 5:43 PM

It seems apparent from David Axelrod's interview on This Week with Stenpanopolus that Hillary's Camp is telling the truth.

That is while Obama says he takes Hillary at her word, while behind the scenes, his aides are sending emails pointing out the outrage in the media such as Olbermann's comments about this.

Axelrod made a non denial denial by not answering George's question about the emails Obama's camp are sending stoking the flames at the same time Obama is saying he believes Hillary and enough has been said.


You will remember they did this same dirty, sneaky stuff about the Bosnia flap earlier.

You remember when Obama says during a debate that he takes Hillary at her word and no more discussion is needed on the Bosnia fabrications. AND THEN in a conference call away from the cameras, Obama is pushing the Bosnia flap for all it's worth. He even brought in two Bosnia experts to testify!!

THIS GUY CANNOT BE TRUSTED NOW. HOW CAN WE TRUST HIM AS OUR PRESIDENT?

Please people....wake up....the evidence is there in front of us. And Obama is so CYNICAL he expects us to accept whatever he says in public while he stabs us in the back.

Please support Hillary at www.HillaryClinton.com.

Posted by: Hillary Simply the Best | May 25, 2008 5:43 PM

Painting a target on the back of Obama is outrageous, either in jest, by design or by mistake.

To suggest Obama is to blame for Clinton's mistake is simply ridiculous. Obama has been magnanimous about Clinton's mistakes of this nature the entire campaign.

Clinton is tearing the party apart, it is time to shut her down and rally around Obama. I hope the super delegates start moving quickly because this is simply unacceptable behavior on Clinton's part.

Posted by: Deward Bowles | May 25, 2008 5:44 PM

Remember how many days Sen. Obama was attacked by Sen. Clinton over his casual use of the word "bitter"?

That he is being forbearing about her unnecessary reference to assassination tells us all we need to know about the difference in their characters -- and in what kind of administration each would run.

Posted by: Roger Evans | May 25, 2008 5:45 PM

Hillary can say whatever she wants, irregardless I will never vote for a political thug like Obama.

I agree with the poster about 'writing in' Hillary in November, its far better than the alternatives.

Posted by: Julie in Sterling | May 25, 2008 5:46 PM

i'm a hillay clinton supporter and a white women if obama i didn't find out that they were behind the scene giving this some legs i would have voted for him but now i see he is a reallife politians that i cant stand. he knewwhat hillary was saying and he knew keith retarted olberman was going to do.

Posted by: catina | May 25, 2008 5:49 PM

She is a Monster !! Obama ought to re-hire the young lady who figured that out.I hope Hillary is so broke she stiffs McCauly like she's stiffing and not paying all the small vendors.The reason he wants the campaign to go on longer is he wants to get paid.

Posted by: The Wizard | May 25, 2008 5:50 PM

The only one engaging in an "assassination" attempt is Barack, Axelrod and the rest of his campaign with complicit help from the media.

Hillary's character has been continually assassinated through questionable practices by all of the above. This JFK flap is just the latest in the long line of underhanded politics by Barack.

Thruthfully, Hillary's statement was right on the mark. It's not even June yet. This race is not over and alot can and will probably happen before the convention.

Posted by: www.hillaryclinton.com | May 25, 2008 5:52 PM

Hillary didn't "mis-speak" She "mis-heard". This was the 4th time she made the comparison (when there were clearly better examples that don't include assassination). If she'd listened to herself speak before, she wouldn't have made the same mistake again. It only hurts this time because Obama is perceived as the nominee, and she did it on video which is somehow more convincing and dangerous in this age.

And this is politics. Words and pictures DO matter. She knows it. Obama shouldn't have said "cling" and she shouldn't have said "assassination". She isn't being treated unfairly. She's being treated just like the other candidates, and she has no one to blame but herself.

She still had time to rescue the situation yesterday. Instead she gave a rambling political "non-apology-apology". If she just had the character to drop the political facade and give a straightforward apology citing (for instance) her focus blinding her to what she was really saying, and apologizing in clear and direct language to the Kennedy's, the Obama's and the American people --NOT for any injury they "might feel", but simple for her ahving been unintentionally callous, she might have actually gained something from the experience.

But no. That didn't happen did it? And it's her own fault. Not the media's. Not Obama's. Not Bill's. Not misogynists. Hillary's

Posted by: Max Sewell | May 25, 2008 5:52 PM

This is a nonissue: The Clinton camp is doing what they do best. Blame everything on the opposition to see if anything sticks-the kitchen sink strategy.

The truth is that this was flamed by the media: See Politico.com about how that story surfaced. The only reason the Obama camp responded was because someone from the media called them about it.

Check it out at:
Media hype: How small stories become big news:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10604.html

There is nothing here folks!

Posted by: Hobbs | May 25, 2008 5:53 PM

You mean the Obama camp is incorrectly emphasizing Clinton's RFK, just as she emphasized his "bitter" remarks over and over an over again?

You're kidding me, surely.

Posted by: Ollie | May 25, 2008 5:53 PM

Its a smear campaign backfiring on him. white people don't want him.

Posted by: jessica | May 25, 2008 5:54 PM

I didn't realize there were a lot of ignorant right wing yahoos who read the Washington Post.

Posted by: Este316 | May 25, 2008 5:55 PM

This remark indicates the level of judgment Sen. Clinton would bring to the highest office in the land. As President, such "misstatements" (that could be perceived as threats) could bring more serious consequences.

Posted by: TM | May 25, 2008 5:56 PM

If Obama and Axelrod cared about the Kennedys they would have never had this recycled through the news all weekend. any level headed person could see it had nothing to do about Obama. Obama and the DNC are getting worried that we are not falling in line with Obama. I would never vote for him.

I bet Hillary been getting money all day long I hope she take this all the way to the convention.

Posted by: Jessica | May 25, 2008 5:56 PM

never never ever Hussein, if not Hillary then vote McCain.

the new white mantra

Posted by: hank | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM

A tribute to Hamilton Jordan today on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos emphasized Jordan's insistence in word and deed upon the quality of loyalty, loyalty in high public office to one's Commander in Chief.

Hillary Clinton's promise of this quality must be regarded dubiously.

Posted by: FirstMouse | May 25, 2008 5:58 PM

Clinton made what can, at best, be called an impolitic remark.

Obama made a public point of giving her a pass on it while his campaign made damn sure no one else did.

Were their positions reversed, I'm sure we would be looking at the same situation. It's politics, folks. The drama comes pre-packaged.

Posted by: Bryan S | May 25, 2008 5:58 PM

Senator Clinton's "apology" is no apology at all. It's just another exercise in blame-shifting. She would have us believe it's OUR fault for being shocked and upset by what she said. The fact is, this remark resonates because it really gives us insight into how Clinton's mind works. She cannot defeat Senator Obama by either fair means or foul. So there's a dark part of her mind that thinks about what it would be like if something removed her adversary from the stage.

Memo to Senator Obama: Do NOT select Hillary Clinton as a vice presidential candidate. If you do, you will have to spend the next four years watching your back every second!

Posted by: Tom in California | May 25, 2008 5:58 PM

the ones that need to be deminished are Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Keith Obermann, Tucker Carlson, stupid Schuster and everyone else I missed from MSNBC. GET RID OF THOSE CREEPS.

Posted by: jane | May 25, 2008 5:59 PM

I will never vote for anyone that says I cling to guns & religion. That was more damaging than anything Hillary has said.

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | May 25, 2008 5:59 PM

She made a sick comment and blames Obama for it. Does she have no shame at all?

Posted by: wolf | May 25, 2008 5:59 PM

She is up against the fence, pathetically barking at friend and foe. Obamas campaign let her off the hook and let it go. Her delirium is apparent.

Posted by: eSPO | May 25, 2008 5:59 PM

This is revolting strategy from the media and especially from Obama for taking Clinton's comments out of context. It made Obama small and petty, down to the same level of venomous like the tabloid of Keith O.

Obama accused American of taking his wife comments' America is a mean country', his pastor Wright GD America, and his sitting in the church for 20 years listening and believing in the black theology. He accused everybody taking Wright's comments out of context until Wright has to rub it in his face to make it clear that Obama is wrong. Clinton never once piled it on.

Obama also continues to do double speak; in public he said 'let's move on', yet his campaign managers sent Keith O's tabloid reporting to all of the media to continue stoking this story.

With this pettiness and venomous behavior from Obama and his campaign, it is beyond doubt that Clinton's supporters will ever vote for him.

Posted by: vote4thebest | May 25, 2008 6:01 PM

And who was it that kept things "stirred up" when Senator Obama made his "bitter" comment? Mrs. Clinton seems to be projecting her own shortcomings onto Senator Obama -- again! The "everybody's picking on me" theme doesn't work. Desperate she was, and desperate she will remain until members of the DNC say "enough"!!

Posted by: Sharan | May 25, 2008 6:01 PM

Keith Oberman link on Hillary Clinton

Link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8CsQyr6vlc

Posted by: Ches | May 25, 2008 6:01 PM

This just proves that Hillary should never become president. She's worse than Bush!

Posted by: Just Say NO to Hillary! | May 25, 2008 6:01 PM

Farrahkan, Wright, the Million Man March...

How can you lead America if support these people?

Just say no to Mr. Barry Obama.

Posted by: TruthHurts | May 25, 2008 6:02 PM

at the end of the day a lot of white people will reject Obama because he doesn't seem American and the country is not ready for an afro-american president.
we will vote for McCain or another third party in protest.

Posted by: hank | May 25, 2008 6:02 PM

After an indepth analysis of Hillary's statement, I conclude that she's CRAZY

Posted by: Daniel | May 25, 2008 6:02 PM

The unbridled hysteria of the Clinton camp, feverishly trying to find someone to blame for her gaucherie is a snapshot of the scenario that will transpire when that 3 a.m. call is answered. Spooky thought.

As for the Clintonites that want to lose their vote by writing in whoever or voting for McCain. Do what you need to do. That's what makes America great. Go do your thing....

Posted by: Elen | May 25, 2008 6:02 PM

If Clinton's primary strategy is now to await some catastrophe befalling Obama's capaign, then for the sake of immediate party unit and optimal effectiveness against the Republicans, she should simply suspend her present campaign.
She can always start it up again when and if her hoped for divine intervention that destroys Obama occurs.
But do we really want someone who thinks this way as our President?

Posted by: Paul Woodson | May 25, 2008 6:02 PM

high school drop out bitter," Julie in Sterling".
Clinton can call Obama elitist and out of touch, and milked his misspoke for all it is worth ,but she gets a free pass.
No wonder why your caliber of people follow the loser....you are just as retarded and evil as she is. Please we need educated well thinking people in the Democratic party..so go vote for mccain...
See even if Obama loses, he loses with dignity fare and square. That drag queen hillary, her career is over...now and in new york.

Posted by: DEBB | May 25, 2008 6:03 PM

More and more the impression comes that this woman has taken leave of her senses, lost her balance, departed from her perspective, and giving us the most amazing demonstration of a great talent gone stark raving mad. Or, in the event that she is responsible for her choices and sane, then the impression that she has a character ranging from uncharitable to sadistic. Said Maureen Dowd this morning, she does harm to feminism when she uses it opportunistically.

Posted by: Gaias Child | May 25, 2008 6:03 PM

I would like to know how much slack or understanding did the Hillary campaign gave Barak after the out of context fanning of the 'bitter' comment --no they kept the drumbeat going for months --never relenting for a second ~!!--now they are blaming Obama for her comment --which by the way is not an isolated incidence --she has repeated this in January and then again in March !!---I used to support Hillary --but she has never failed to dissapoint --disgust and dismay me --

Posted by: Anna | May 25, 2008 6:03 PM

Sad comments - people should stick to the facts and leave the insults at home.

MSNBC's Keith Olberman needs no excuse to go after Clinton. He made a threat on her life and had to issue an apology the next day for "misspeaking." Seems like a lot of on air "talent" have had to apologize to Clinton for their remarks. Bill Clinton said that politics is a contact sport but that should not give NBC and MSNBC a license to go after her because she is not as far to the left as they would like her to be.

And Tim Russert is no better!

Posted by: Fred C Dobbs | May 25, 2008 6:04 PM

The Clinton camp's arguments don't make sense-since Obama has for all practical purposes sown up the nomination notwithstanding the fuzzy math. The Obama camp is not helped by the vitriol between the supporters of the two respective candidates if they flame this further. In fact they would like to entice the Clinton's supporters to move over to their side in the GE.

In any case, I don't even understand Clinton's remarks about the RFK's assassination-it was somewhat vague. It can be construed to mean anything.

Again a non-issue. Obama will have all the delegates he needs on June 3rd.

The Democratic party has bigger fish to fry in the Fall and the sooner we come together, the better!

Posted by: Hobbs | May 25, 2008 6:04 PM

All Hillary supports needs help. with all her lies how can you criticize Obama? You support Clinton only because Obama is a half-black candidate.if you don't want to vote for him in general election that is fine but Hillary doesn't deserve to be in general election.

Posted by: david | May 25, 2008 6:05 PM

I would not vote for Hillary now if she did become the nominee. At least I know exactly where McCain stands. With Hillary ... she changes as often as she changes her pants suits. Let is go girl. Let it go.

Posted by: Nichols in SC | May 25, 2008 6:05 PM

"I'm proud of America for the FIRST TIME"

How could anyone want someone like that in the White House?

Please go to www.hillaryclinton.com

Posted by: Just say no to Barack | May 25, 2008 6:06 PM

I was a Hillary supporter until I learned more about Obama after the Iowa primaries. She had continued to be a good second choice, despite some of her "mispeakings". There were reasonable ways to interpret some of her supposed gaffes. The only one I really had a problem with until now was the Bosnia airport exaggeration, and that could be excused as hyperbole of a campaign. But the reference this week to the RFK assassination was just mind-boggling. I was stunned when I read it. Whether or not she was referring to a "timeline", there were many other ways she could have referenced it. I just can't get past this one. If she were to become the nominee it would be, for the first time, REALLY HARD to vote for her.

Posted by: dblue | May 25, 2008 6:06 PM

I'm a Hillary supporter who will be voting for McCain in the Fall. And I know many others who feel the same way. Obama is a divisive candidate. HE has divided us. And if he and his supporters think that Hillary's supporters will just fall in line. Think again. We will be throwing our support to John McCain.

Posted by: grace | May 25, 2008 6:07 PM

Let me get this straight, Hillary Clinton said what she said about assassination attempts, which was ghoulish at the very least, and her campaign blames Obama's campaign for something she said?

My goodness, I'll be HAPPY when June 3rd rolls around, because that's the day Hillary/Bill Clinton will be OUT of the race. My, they're both such polarizing bottom-feeders.

Posted by: Lena_61 | May 25, 2008 6:08 PM

Hillary camp blaming Obama camp is the worest case of gaul I have seen in my life.

Posted by: blgeorgia | May 25, 2008 6:08 PM

Obama will be the next President of the United States, and Hillary knows this.

She'll do anything, and I mean, ANYTHING to undermine him.

The same old tactics from Hill.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: Gerard | May 25, 2008 6:09 PM

When a person wishes to achieve a public office by the consensus of the public, publicity is necessary. Even bad publicity is better then being ignored.

Posted by: Old Coot | May 25, 2008 6:09 PM

Hillary Clinton has shown that not only is she a disconnected and unself-aware person, but that she is also delusional and deep in the throes of denial.

Obama has bent over backward to praise her in the last few weeks, and the Clinton camp has been nothing but horrible. Please, superdelegates end this farce now. By not coming forward, you're enabling the Clintons' childish behavior. Who has the power to step in and tell them to stop acting so childishly and badly ?

Posted by: vbalfour | May 25, 2008 6:10 PM

RFK Jr. wants her senate seat. Thats the only possible explanation for his support of her. Every true environmentalist knows she failed with the "gas tax holiday" test.

Posted by: brianG | May 25, 2008 6:10 PM

You can't blame Terry McAuliffe for fighting as hard as he can. He could almost smell Secretary of Defense and not it looks like he will go back to selling used Yugos.

Posted by: ericmiami | May 25, 2008 6:10 PM


cry baby hillary...

WAAAAAA!

WAAAAAAA!

WAAAAAAA!

THEY ARE PICKING ON ME!

WAAAAAAA!

WAAAAAAAA!

I WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES!

I WANT FLORIDA GIVEN TO ME!

WAAAAAA!

I WANT THE SUPERDELEGATES TO SIDE WITH ME!

WAAAAAA!

I WANT THEM TO CHANGE TO AN ELECTORAL DECISION FOR THE PRIMARIES!

WAAAAAA!

I WANT MICHIGAN TOO!

WAAAAAAAA!

I'M A WOMAN AND THEY ARE PICKING ON ME!

WAAAAAAA!

I HAVE FAT ANKLES!

WAAAAAAAA!

I HAVE SHORT LITTLE FAT LEGS!

WAAAAAAA!

SNIPERS ARE FIRING AT ME!

WAAAAAAAAA!

MY NAME IS HILLARY GUMP!

WAAAAAAAAAAA!

hillary is a friggin cry baby.

Posted by: BOB | May 25, 2008 6:10 PM

We have an obligation to be truthful to ourselves in the greatest nation on earth. Here is what Dick Morris - A non Obama supporter wrote on the issue:

"Everybody who has thought seriously about the Obama candidacy, including me and probably including the Senator himself, have reflected on the horrible possibility that he would be assassinated. One cannot think about Obama, the Kennedy-esque candidate without worrying about his safety. But we all observe the discipline of not raising the issue in public. We all worry that to do so would be to encourage some maniac to take a shot. Now Hillary has violated this unstated but heretofore universal taboo and brought up the possibility. That is not to say that she is hoping for a murder. But it is to say that the possibility is uppermost in her mind and a significant part of her rationale for staying in the race. And, by raising it, she has made it more possible."

On the historic side, GEOFF EARLE, BRADEN KEIL and ANGELA MONTEFINISE wrote in this article (http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm?CMP=EMC-email_edition&DATE=05252008):

"That line, which she later said was meant to convey the fact that nomination battles can extend late into the primary season, also sparked outrage for touching upon Obama's personal safety.

It was also just plain inaccurate, say historians, noting that Clinton's drawn-out battle with Obama in a seemingly endless primary season is nothing like the 1968 and 1992 Democratic campaigns.

Bobby Kennedy was not in the midst of a long-fought primary battle when he was assassinated. He entered the race on March 16, 1968, less than three months before the June 5 shooting.

As for Bill Clinton, despite his wife's perceptions, he'd won the nomination long before mid-June 1992. The race was essentially over by March 20, when Paul Tsongas dropped out and Clinton became the front-runner with a 7-to-1 delegate lead over Jerry Brown."

On both fronts she is wrong and I think she needs to simply apologize and stop fanning this issue herself....

Posted by: onekanobi | May 25, 2008 6:10 PM

Typical Clinton - take no responsibility and blame someone else for her own mistakes. This manic obsession of hers for the presidency has done more to divide democrats than any Republican could ever have done. Where on earth are the superdels who could end this thing? What a bunch of wimps.

Posted by: Kathy | May 25, 2008 6:10 PM

I believe we should just let the candidates finish the race. This is just unnecessary distraction for both camps.

Peace!

Posted by: Hobbs | May 25, 2008 6:11 PM

im a hillary clinton supporter and i takeher at her word it seems that the press wants to embarrased hillary clinton so bad that she will go and hide under the covers women stand up and stop being so star struck over oprah best thing.keith olberman and chris matthews are idiots.nbc and the hold press is kissing obama but and i cant stand it anymore.he just lost kentucky by 35 points and west virginia by 41 points and you call him the nominee thats crazy.also superdelegates stop being a scary chicken over the black vote we always vote democrat

Posted by: tina | May 25, 2008 6:11 PM

When do you think that Hillary will release her army of flying monkeys on Obama?

Posted by: Mike | May 25, 2008 6:11 PM

jah spirit will end up with truth . burning spear to the end of the world.

Posted by: tao changer | May 25, 2008 6:12 PM

Hillary's whole campaign is lame. If she stubbed her toe, they'd try to find a way to make it Obama's fault. We all listened to the questions and we all listened to your answers Hill, and we are not impressed. The Obama campaign gave you an easy time. It's the rest of America--including the super delegates--who are appalled.

Posted by: karela | May 25, 2008 6:12 PM

Now is the time for all good men (and women) and Superdelegates, to come to the aid of their party.

Posted by: connect the dots | May 25, 2008 6:13 PM

This is just another example of Obama jumping on anything to keep the race issue alive. He publicly says he accepts her at her word while his camp goes around beating the horse to death. Let's look at other times Obama injected race into the campaign and then said he took her at her word that she meant no harm. One was the picture of him in traditional clothing of a country he was visiting. His camp went all over insisting it was Hillary's camp who released the picture trying to frighten people into thinking he was a Muslim. Of course, there was no proof of that. Then during a debate, he said he took her at her word that she had nothing to do with the picture. Once his polls slipped though, he brought it back up again to accuse her of releasing the picture. He said in his horrible PA debate that HE never accused Hillary of lying about her Bosnia statements, but admitted his aides had. The very next day, he himself brought it up in a speech. Obama tries to paint himself above the fray but he is just a little bully throwing mud on everyone while trying to claim he didn't do it. We need a grown-up in the White House.

Posted by: Lana | May 25, 2008 6:13 PM

any woman out there who has been verbally abused, humiliated and lied to by any man should give Hillaryclinton.com at least $5 because she is taking the punches and she is standing up for women all over america. Obama had a smear campaign she did nothing wrong. she is the smartest woman I have ever seen and I will support her to the end. and then vote mccain

Posted by: jessica | May 25, 2008 6:13 PM

The media was provided their information by the Obama campaign. K. Oberman-msnbc-was given the link by the obama campaign. Yet Senator Obama says it's a non issue. How gracious!

Posted by: kt | May 25, 2008 6:14 PM

A backlash against Obama has started since he and his people have twisted the meaning of what Hillary was saying. Watch the tape. Everyone knows she said nothing wrong nothing hurtful but the Obama camp will do anything to stir up trouble, And then the great Obama forgives her. Oh give me break he is a hateful deceitful divider of People. I have never heard so many democrats say they will vote for McCain if he is the nominee. I hope the Super Delegates are listening- this is serious. I am a life long democrat but will never vote for Obama - Sorry I just can't do it. It's a lucky year for the Republicans.

Posted by: mimi362 | May 25, 2008 6:14 PM


hey hillary?

let's see how long you can hold your breath.

on three...

one

two

three

hold it!

i'll be back tomorrow.. try to hold it til then.

we can have bill with his red face.. and we can have hillary with her blue face... and then chelsea with just her lights on but nobody home look.

what a family.

i have a friggin dog that makes more sense than they do.

Posted by: BOB | May 25, 2008 6:14 PM

We've just seen several days of media coverage of Obama-McCain spats, even Obama-Bush spats, which spell death to the Hillary campaign.

At this stage, even bad news is better for Hillary than being ignored while the other two argue.

At least, with her RFK comment, she's clawed her way back onto the news pages.

She actually benefits from this, particularly in the fundraising department, as being attacked fills her coffers.

Obama is wise not to get drawn into this one. It's really being overblown.

If you want to help Obama get to the White House:

1. Stop attacking Hillary, start ignoring her. Believe me, she's much happier being attacked than being forgotten.

2. Start attacking McCain.

Posted by: kevrobb | May 25, 2008 6:14 PM

To Hilary Supporters:
Your threat of voting for mccain is getting old, boring and stale.....If you are going to vote for mccain..just be like nike and do it.Please JUST SHUT UP....your threats mean nothing..because if you were a true democrat, that wouldnt have been a thought.
If Obama loses..well, he loses fare and square...and not looking like a crazy lunatic.
dont forget to remember there is 2012, Obama's supports can also vote a republican in the white house...sO LET'S DRINK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY....CHEERS. (think again, if you think we are going to fall inline in 2012)

Posted by: Debb | May 25, 2008 6:15 PM

14th amendment guy,as someone who holds a juris doctor degree, and has practiced law for decades, I have some advice for you,never open your mouth when you don't know what you are talking about,keep your stupidity to yourself.

Posted by: joseph marcucilli | May 25, 2008 6:15 PM

never never ever Hussein, if not Hillary, then vote McCain.

the new white mantra

Posted by: hank | May 25, 2008 6:15 PM

I'm glad to see that so many of you feel that blaming Obama is to put it mildly ridiculous!!

If we want to end this, UNCOMMITTED SUPER DELEGATES NEED TO COMMIT before the May 31 DNC Rules Committee meeting.

Posted by: JoyceV. | May 25, 2008 6:15 PM

Wow, it's just like Obama and his supporters to resort to sexism and name-calling to make a point. "Drag queen"? How offensive, is that the best you can come up with DEBB?

I know your not a woman because that would not come out of a woman's mouth.

My support for Hillary is about what's best for America. Who is actually the best canidate? Without a doubt, Barack is not that person. Because he's black, everyone it seems is scared to attack him on the real issues, his legitimate associations and his dirty politics.

I voted Douglas Wilder b/c he was the best canidate at the time for Governor of Virginia, so race is not an issue with me.

I judge the canidates based on character, and with Obama there are huge issues about his character and alot of Americans feel the same way I do, whether you like it or not.

Barack is just not electable.

Posted by: Julie in Sterling | May 25, 2008 6:16 PM

All I can say is...Don't turn your back on her Or your History. I have never seen such a Pitty Bitty!!

Posted by: Jean | May 25, 2008 6:16 PM

The media is to blame for the fact that Republicans will win the White House again in November. The inscrupulous, incendiary, evil ways that these people have sought to create the news and tag it to every source in the world to keep their home papers floating to the top of Google and every other search engine may be a sign of the times for that business, but it is no less irresponsible and twisted. This collective group loved and wanted Obama so much, they crushed him like an egg. Their misogynistic war plan against Hillary Clinton hardened her supporters; Obama's supporters became equally hardened to hers. But the result is the same. Elite journalists like Edward R. Murrow would be shocked and ashamed at the way the media has injected itself into the story. One thing is for sure. John McCain is headed to the White House.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 6:16 PM

Hillary is a total narcissistic egomaniac, in addition to being a craven, pandering politician who zealously adheres to the path of political expediency. It's all about fulfilling her lust for power at this point. Any other candidate with an ounce of dignity and class would have dropped out by now.

Posted by: Guy B. Jones | May 25, 2008 6:16 PM

John McCain -> Celebrity

Barack Obama -> Scholar

HilLIARy Clinton -> Professional Victim

Posted by: I'm 4 Change | May 25, 2008 6:17 PM

She's becoming more and more like her husband who said he never had sex with Monica Lewinsky? How sad these two are..always attempting to blame someone else..God knows we do not these people representing America, unless, those who support them are also in denial.

Posted by: of | May 25, 2008 6:18 PM

It's not Hillary that's going to destroy the democratic party, it's Obama and his far left Marxist ideas and his willingness to say or do anything to undermine millions of voters that have been at the core of democratic party for decades.

Posted by: Hillary Deserves Better

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Given that Clinton's policies are virtually identical to Obama's, other than maybe healthcare where Hillary wants to mandate coverage for even more people than Obama does, I'm not sure why his ideas are any more far left and Marxist than hers are.

Very bizarre thinking.

He certainly hasn't undermined me at all.

As for the RFK brouhaha, she and her handlers are no longer to be taken even remotely seriously. They seem to have absolutely no clue why people would find the comment offensive. I'd like to believe that Hillary didn't really mean that she had any hope that Obama would be taken out of the race by assassination or some other dire event -- though I'm not sure of that -- but even then the words were just plain stupid. Despite Obama's kindly giving her the benefit of the doubt and suggesting that her remark was the result of campaign fatigue, that's clearly not the case since she had said the same thing at least once before, in an interview with TIME magazine.

And don't even get me started on the FL/MI delegate mess. I live in FL -- my vote in the primary doesn't count. Do I like that? No, of course not. But the idea of seating the delegates at the convention as is, without some kind of an adjustment (split them 50/50?), is absurd and something I totally reject. I don't understand the DNC's need to punish so seriously the two states for moving up their primaries, and I'm ticked off at the governor and legislature in FL for thumbing their nose at the DNC (and the RNC) and thereby forcing their hand.

BUT... all the parties involved knew the rules beforehand. And that includes Clinton. Her campaign manager, Terry McAuliffe, who preceded Howard Dean as the head of the DNC, was actually largely responsible for the whole notion of punishing upstart states who meddled with their primary dates in the first place. It is utterly hypocritical for the two of them to now say it's unfair.

Hillary has worn out her welcome. She needs to bow out now.

Posted by: Sally | May 25, 2008 6:18 PM

She's becoming more and more like her husband who said he never had sex with Monica Lewinsky? How sad these two are..always attempting to blame someone else..God knows we do not these people representing America, unless, those who support them are also in denial.

Posted by: of | May 25, 2008 6:18 PM

Hillary should back out.

Posted by: Hozie | May 25, 2008 6:19 PM

This needs to go all the way to the convention. Barack is not fit to be anywhere near the white house.

To suggest that Hillary would be behind an assassination attempt as some of you have is even more irresponsible than any remark any candidate has made. Yes, I've read the body count list so please don't send it again. Don't forget $80 million was already spent investigating those bogus claims.

Obama isn't even president and he already has two bodies possibly tied to him and his ambitions.

Both candidates have received death threats. Do only one person's death threats count? This is ridiculous

Posted by: LC | May 25, 2008 6:19 PM

I'm sure Terry McC understands that people saw this as a slam on Obama, not a slam on RFK, so Jr.'s statement kinda doesn't address the problem ... and while Jr. issued tepid support, what about his sisters, who also were supporting Clinton? Their silence speaks louder than Jr.'s tepid support. One of the NY tabloids is reporting the family is livid.

Poor Terry kinda laughs when he states the Clinton line on TV nowadays. It's clear he doesn't even believe what he is saying anymore.

When your paid flacks are the only ones willing to go out there and give you tepid support, it's time to quit.

When your trying to get sympathy by whining about your opponent unfairly restating the stupidest thing you could have said (Charles Schumer's description), it's time to quit.

When your only explanation of why you are staying in requires you try to equate June '68, when only 13 contest had been run, with June '08, when almost all the contests are over, it's time to quit.

When everyone is trying to give you one last face saving chance to exit (Carter, Pelosi, Dean, Clayburn), it's time to quit.

When you're running yourself so tired that you start embarrassing yourself in public, it's time to quit. (Hillary appeared to be less lucid on Friday than all of the polygamist wives in Texas, Hedda Nussbaum immediately after her arrest, or any subject on A&E's "Intervention" before the intervention.)

When you look as drawn as you stand in a Supermarket giving one of the most listless, defeated speeches of your career - it was the anti-Checkers speech - it's time to quit.

Posted by: CJKatl | May 25, 2008 6:20 PM

OK, so she did not mean what has been attributed to her statement. She means no harm to Obama. But surely she should be aware of the sensitivity. Even acknowledging the fact that she understands that, would go a long way to settling things but so far nothing of the kind. Furthermore, the "unforced", repeated lie about Bosnia does not now lend credibility to her cries of innocense. They were ill chosen words from an exhausted candidate, but she does herself no favours by what seems to be a complete refusal to concede any fault whatsoever.

Posted by: Seren5 | May 25, 2008 6:20 PM

What in hell has Art 3 of the 14th Amendment have anything to do with Sen. Obama? Ar you hillary supporters so beyond reality that you make up anything about him? Will you all just give it a rest and concede that your candidate has no chance of winning, that she blew this nomination she felt was god-given by being out-organized by Sen. Obama.This organization he put together proves that he can run the government, unlike hillary who had no answers for anything after Feb 5. Russert on MTP even read her exact quote where she expected her nomination to be all wrapped up by then. Goes to show that she has no clue about running a campaign, let alone the country. It is over.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:20 PM

I gurss she has been told "she will NOT get the VP spot on the ticket.

Oh well, I was hoping they could come together. She is showing herself not worthy.

All of the Hillary Clinton supporters that plan on voting for McCain, have fun.

Posted by: OneFreeMan | May 25, 2008 6:21 PM

Desperate people do desperate things in desperate times. The Clintons are desperate. If a disaster does not happen to assist he in her failed bid for the presidency, she is determi9n ed to create one. Anything Obama says will be twisted by the Clintons. They will go to any length even lying. The Clintons are racists. She has become an embarassment to her Party and to the country as a whole. Why would this country elect a person president who has so little character?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:21 PM

It does not matter that she used RFK as an example. The mere fact that she is waiting around for the assassination of an opponent speaks volumes to the character of HRC. Further, if she was referencing a "time-line", the California primary was over long ago this time around. Democrats should be ashamed of themselves covering for this rationale to justify what she said. If anyone else said what she said, his or her political career would be over.


Posted by: brooklyn-ny | May 25, 2008 6:21 PM

"I didn't realize there were a lot of ignorant right wing yahoos who read the Washington Post."

Duh.......Barrack is a Muslim, he went to school in a madrases, is a racist, misogynist, white working class americans won't vote for him, His primary and caucus wins don't count,because they are small states,Michigan and Florida should count even though Clinton signed off on the rules, oh and by the way her campaign chair "Terrie McCaulif was one of the architects of the way this years primaries were done.She is a chancer on the butt of the Democrats, and her convicted child molester of a husband is a joke....is it me or does his nose look like a giant P E N I S ? It is time for the Super "D's" to pull the plug on this I can't think of a good word for her at this moment. And for those racists pinheads who keep posting on this site, sit back and enjoy When Barrack H. Obama wins, cuz your time is about up, pecke r wood trash talking one tooth wonders, oh and I forgot inbred, bible toting gunloving tobacco chewing and I am referring to the

Posted by: HillandBill$uckBigtime | May 25, 2008 6:21 PM

Hillary Clinton has lost her mind. So much for a "graceful" exit. Any exit will do now, the sooner the better.

Posted by: Independent Voter | May 25, 2008 6:22 PM

There is no place in a presidential campaign for the words assassination and gun. No speculation, no jokes. No vice presidential nomination for Huckabee or Clinton. In fact, they might not even be fit for any public office.

Posted by: Fed Up | May 25, 2008 6:23 PM

It is amazing how low her and her supporters will go. These lemmings would jump off a cliff is hillary said it was a good idea. Poor hillary people are so mean to her. She twists history. Her claim bill. who had over 3300 delegates to brown with less than 600, didnt win until June? Please. She brings up an assasination as a case in point when that election's first primary started in March? This HAS gone on too long. Long after the winner was decided. She is a liar, a cheater, and that is who redneck America wants. Just like the last "working class" hero George W. I am sick of the punditry and clintonites describing the dredges of "white" society the salt of the earth. If they are so hard working why do they lack education. over half of the people in WV thought Barack was a Muslim. And half the idiot republican postings have comments calling him the "antichrist" and linking him to apocolyptic scripture. The wealthiest most powerful nation in the world and people like clinton and mccain pander to the same people that hold us back. Read a book or two before you talk or vote. The world cant afford 4 more years of rule by the hopelessly stupid.

Posted by: shawn | May 25, 2008 6:24 PM

Let's get it straight. Someone in Obama's communications department did send out to a wide MSM distribution the link to Keith Obermann's special critique last Friday's of Hillary's comments regarding RFK. This was probably done without Obama's authorization but it is accurate to say that his campaign has continued to fan the fire.

Posted by: StephenP | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM

The comment called for the RFK treatment for Senator Obama should be removed. Please include some way to report abuse in these comments sections.

Posted by: marmac | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM

It is first the Media/Press and second Obama and his people who are not only odious, hypocritical and offensive. Obama's accusations that Clinton is doing things to get elected are .... childish?, that's what he's doing and they should, that's the job, to get elected at this level. But the way the media jumps on Clintons words is pathetic, it's a game that is typical internet nerd play, one can say anything and make it sound bad simply by repeating it like: "I'm glad Obama is not beating his wife". Now, what does that mean? Anything? You're all sickos.

Posted by: Michel Ditlove | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM

One can only wonder how much time and energy Hillary will have to spend apologizing to various heads of state when one of her poorly expressed thoughtless remarks insults a country or its leader should she ever be elected president.

Posted by: Miriam Burtsche | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM

That woman is horrible. Is she crazy?

Posted by: Ana Lucia | May 25, 2008 6:26 PM

Totally predicted and predictable, Obama made her do it!

Posted by: Anonani | May 25, 2008 6:26 PM

Brings new meaning to the Vince Forster suicide. Maybe the Feds should reopen the case. The Clinton's are evil and will say and do anything to have power and to save their reputations.

Posted by: Tom Gemelli | May 25, 2008 6:27 PM

Jessica please do us all a big favor and crawl back up under the racist rock you emerged from, your comments are utterly sickening and hurtful, for the past two days I have read your comments and shook my head saying " not in today's America" but people like you since Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Kentucky have been coming out of the wood works and it is very sad. I indeed hope she is soon defeated and I also hope that you and those like you don't go out and vote because we don't want nor need your voice in our party, shame on you!

Posted by: Tory | May 25, 2008 6:27 PM

Senator Clinton's whole victimizer/victim bait and switch passive aggressive game is wearing extremely thin....

it's like the DNC is the Titanic and Bill is holding Hillary up in the bow as she incessantly screams "I'm the Queen of the World"..

Posted by: erich | May 25, 2008 6:27 PM

Yes, how true! A country that clings to GUNS, RELIGION, RACISM (gee, remember Katrina!!!.....are these people home yet??!!!!!) , SEXISM, MILITARISM, etc etc is really going to vote for a black man to go to the White House (even though most of the people in prison in this country are BLACK, racial profiling, etc).....and a black man with the name of Barack Hussein Obama!!!.......I'm still trying to figure out how the Obama supporters have not figured out the Republican joke yet........it is just by coinsidence that this supposedly democratic candidate's middle name is "Hussein".......at this time in our country's history.......????? The chances of this must be a zillion to one, wouldn't you agree! The Republicans have to be laughing their as--- off at us Democrats.......Gee, I wonder what Karl Rove and crew have been up to in the last year or so.......Somebody with absolutely NO EXPERIENCE & NO HISTORY has just slipped out of the blue about a year ago, and has a middle name of "Hussein" AND!!! is going to SAVE OUR COUNTRY.......Oh yes, and he's NOT MUSLIM (even though is father was), he's an Evangical Christian (just as scarry!!! under Rev. Wright) GAWD! if it weren't so scarry I would be laughing......What could ALL of you Obama supporters possibly be thinking?????? The general election is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME! Do you really think that people will vote for him???? I don't think so. Those of us that were actually around for Bobby, John and Martin Luther King know that Obama and the Rovians/neo-cons are spinning quite a tale.......Just like for George W. Bush against Gore. Remember the media then??? That was quite a picture they painted of Gore......AND ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY BOUGHT IT!
CARRY ON HILLARY........we're with you ALL THE WAY!!!.......THE REAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY will be at the convention!!!!!

Posted by: librairie | May 25, 2008 6:27 PM

Sure -- she stepped on a rake and it flew up and hit her in the head. She must be exhausted, and mistakes happen. But one thing I want to know is WHY does the media have a feast about this type of Clinton gaffe, when they don't seem to give a hoot about the Obama drug and sex scandal that is all over the web. And it is probably even true! The republicans are not going to give him a break on this, but the media sure has been ignoring it. Amazing!

Posted by: bevvyjean | May 25, 2008 6:27 PM

Hillary is a crazed raccoon trapped in a garbage can

Posted by: Straight Talker | May 25, 2008 6:28 PM

I wag my finger and say, I will not vote for that woman.

Posted by: truth1 | May 25, 2008 6:28 PM

It amazes me how dumb some think the American people are. A candidate of Hillary's experience understands the power of words and the message they send. Further more, the Clinton's are especially well known for carefully parsing their words. Now she wants us to believe she didn't say what she meant. Her statement is nothing less than a shocking, cold calculation unworthy of a presidential candidate. Maybe like the old soldier of General MacArthur's ballad, Sen. Clinton will just fade away....

Posted by: Dean | May 25, 2008 6:29 PM

Wow! Lady MacClinton. She really is turning her legacy into a royal tragedy each extra day she is on the campaign trail. One day it's Zimbabwe, the next--assassination. It's time to close the curtain on this drama.
Oye,Puerto Rico! Ayudanos. Basta con los Clintons.Obama es el futuro que nosotros esperamos. Viva Obama!

Posted by: Mizrose | May 25, 2008 6:29 PM

My God! Now it's OBAMA'S fault that Clintons called a hit on him! Unbelieveable! The Clinton campaign has completely gone over the edge. Obama said in his speech that he didn't think Clinton meant anything by this. And I would imagine any sane person wouldn't want to keep the subject of his MURDER alive. Terry McAuliffe and others have been speaking for the past few weeks that a possible "catastrophe" might happen.
It's time. The DNC and Super Delegates need to put her campaign out of its misery...ASAP!

Posted by: Janet | May 25, 2008 6:29 PM

Hillary should just go away. She is a liar, and she is pathetic.

Posted by: Please Go Away HIllary | May 25, 2008 6:29 PM

To every single one of you nasty, hypocritical Obama fans who are spewing out this hate-mongering toward Hillary Clinton:

You better watch what you say. Obama WILL NOT win this election without Hillary supporters. It will not happen. You all know it. If you think for one second that your "progressive" Left wing of the Party can elect Obama alone, then you have only to look to Kerry in '04 and Gore in '00 to know this is not true.

I WILL NOT stand with a band of Obama supporters who have no respect for my candidate and the historic nature of her candidacy. The arrogance of you folks has become clearer and clearer as this campaign as gone on. So many of you are acting like you don't even have to reach out to us, to show us or Hillary any respect, and we just have no choice but to get with your plan. Not so, AT ALL.

You are responsible for "healing the Party". I don't see any of that in these posts. We can write in a vote for Hillary in November - remember that. I will not work with a bunch of people who do not respect my candidate.

And to the Post: This is the stupidest headline I have ever read. Hillary's campaign is not stoking anything. It is simply defending Hillary and calling the Obama campaign on its hypocracy, once again. Everyone sees through this crap now. No one thinks Obama is Mr Highroad anymore. Just stick a sock in it.

All of you, the left wing media and these fans of Obama's - you are really pushing us. Do you really want us to push this thing to the Convention? We will, if we sense no respect from you people. Oh, yes, we will.

Posted by: K | May 25, 2008 6:30 PM

Hillary Clinton is out of control.

Posted by: Steve Fought | May 25, 2008 6:30 PM

It's a dangerous proposition to say "all you McCain voters have fun." This was the year that we were supposed to take our country back. But we won't get there now. Because of a media that so obviously wanted a candidate above the rest that they have crushed him like an egg, all of those McCain voters you tell to "have fun" will be called something else November 4. LANDSLIDE.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 6:30 PM

As Keith Olbermann pointed out so clearly in his Special Comment, we have given her a pass on many, many occasions for lying and spinning the metrics, the likes of which would never have been afforded to Obama or McCain.

I, too, remember the holy hell she raised about Obama's "bitter" comment, jumping on it like it was the train to glory. She milked it for all it was worth branding him elitist (how much more a member of the elite could she be - former first lady and currently a US Senator) and unpatriotic (Uh, where's her flag pin? She always wears jewelry but never noticed anything patriotic.) She will just say anything - either directly or in "code speak" - to get what she wants. At any cost to others and her party.

It's sad for me. I'm a first generation American who was raised to be proud to have a vote - a voice in government. I'm also white, retired, and a woman. I was fortunate to have had a wonderful career and have long been an activists for the rights of women. For me, this primary season was heartening; our country had, to some degree at least, made progress given that the three major candidates represent three demographic groups - a woman, a mixed racial person, and a senior person. For me, as a registered Independent, it was liberating and presented real choice at last. I would not support a women based on gender alone. There have been many times I've been on the sticky end of the gender stick and would never practice sexism against anyone - male or female.

Sadly, she reminds me of Bush. I compare her changing the metrics of the magic number to the nomination based on what she thinks she can pull off to Bush's changing the rationale for invading Iraq. Hillary, like Bush, has latched on to anything that would further her cause and keeps repeating her spin hoping to be believed. She signed off on the rules governing the primaries and seemed fine with that until she was no longer the front runner. Now the rules don't suit her so she ignores them - a la Bush. She has disparaged the votes of scores of Americans declaring their states to be of lesser importance than others as Bush has disparaged Americans with his actions and policies.

We've had sufficient evidence now of her judgment, how easy it is for her to spin or lie, and what she thinks about rules to conclude that she is not suited to be POTUS or VPOTUS. Superdelegates ACT NOW!

Posted by: SLR | May 25, 2008 6:31 PM

To the poster who didn't realize how many right-wing wackos read the WashPost, I answer, look how many right wing wackos write for the Wash Post!

Posted by: Greg in LA | May 25, 2008 6:31 PM

I don't think HRC's ghoulish comment should offend the Kennedys as much as it should offend Obama family. Novertheless, despite what JFK Jr. said, the Kennedys are outraged.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm

Posted by: SayWhat | May 25, 2008 6:31 PM

This is getting ridiculous. Hillary must be losing it. I can't imagine anybody in either party still feeling they could vote for her to be our President. Where in the world are the spineless super-delegates who could and should put an end to this circus?

Posted by: jimi | May 25, 2008 6:32 PM

Listening to Wolfson and McAuliffe this morning was jaw dropping. The sooner these clowns are off my TV the better. Can someone tell me who is handling Clinton's media message? This was handled very badly.

Posted by: sferris | May 25, 2008 6:32 PM

She said she is staying in the race because she hopes things can dramatically change. And history can give us good examples to support her decision, such as the assassination of the front runner in 1968.

Posted by: am | May 25, 2008 6:32 PM

McAuliffe said Clinton is staying in the race to give hope to the millions of women who have voted for her and "she is winning races."

PLEASE...Hillary get out...you're embarrassing yourself and many professional women like me.

Posted by: Roberta | May 25, 2008 6:32 PM

Hillary really is remarkable. You remember the Uncle Remus tale where Br'er Fox or Br'er Rabbit, I forget who it was, encounters the tar baby. And Br'er Fox, for the sake of this story, starts smacking the tar baby, and gets mired in and covered with tar. He gets stuck in the tar. Now does that sound just a little like Clinton and her campaign, lately trying to wriggle out of Clinton's gaffe on the Robert Kennedy tragedy?

Posted by: Mikhailovich | May 25, 2008 6:33 PM

It is so like our country to blame the victim. Frankly I am sick it it. A wise sage once said, if there is one finger wagging at someone else, there are three wagging back at the wagger. Hilary, please stop wagging yourself.

Posted by: Angela Bennett | May 25, 2008 6:33 PM

I honestly can't believe this.

We honestly think Hillary was calling out for someone to kill Obama? People honestly believe that?

assassination: to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack

I believe the word was used correctly. It's unfortunate nobody wants to look at the context ... and its reference to the calendar.

Posted by: Ethan | May 25, 2008 6:33 PM

I'll be back in the US in time to vote, and I can tell you it will NOT be for HRC. For one thing a lot of her supporters sound like complete whack jobs if some of the above comments are anything to go by. Barack Obama has run the better campaign and appears the better candidate, plain and simple. I don't believe HRC intended anything malicious in her RFK comment, but it was an unfortunate reference all the same. Some people posting here need to grow up, many of the comments are outrageous and ignorant. You do your preferred candidate no favors with this crap.

Posted by: Dianne | May 25, 2008 6:34 PM

I use to really like the Clintons, there was a time when I hated the Republicans for their impeachment of Bill Clinton, now in a ironic twist I hate the Clintons and would vote for Libertain Bob Barr over Hillary or Bill, and he was one of the House impeachment prosecutors. The lies and deceit that come from the Clintons and their campaign has proved the Republicans right.

Posted by: Scott | May 25, 2008 6:35 PM

Surely we could all agree that it was a mistake to even mention the Kennedy assasination in the context of this campaign. If you can't get that...there's something wrong. Her apology was a classic "well I'm sorry if all of you thin-skinned people were offended" was in fact a non-apology and proved she didn't get it. Please go home Hillary.

Posted by: Brad Burklow | May 25, 2008 6:35 PM

As the Democratic Presidential campaign continues, I hope American women will not be paranoid or pouty because they refuse to support our party's nominee... Barrack Obama. Hillary had an ex President and all the cronies he could call on to help her win... and still failed. Lets be honest and realize that Obama had a much harder hill to climb and still came up on top. God Bless Obama.

Posted by: Cheryl Cook | May 25, 2008 6:36 PM

BS McAuliffe told Tim Russert last week on Meet the Press that the Clinton campaign was hoping for a catastrophe. Look it up.

Posted by: Gene | May 25, 2008 6:36 PM

I am tired of bothe Hilary and Obama. You will see that many demcrats will vote for McCain,..like I will.

Posted by: Moysh | May 25, 2008 6:36 PM

As the Democratic Presidential campaign continues, I hope American women will not be paranoid or pouty because they refuse to support our party's nominee... Barrack Obama. Hillary had an ex President and all the cronies he could call on to help her win... and still failed. Lets be honest and realize that Obama had a much harder hill to climb and still came up on top. God Bless Obama.

Posted by: Cheryl Cook | May 25, 2008 6:37 PM

Obama was gracious enough not to make a big deal out it. She should let it go, but of course she's the one trying to make political hay, and blame her misdeed on someone else. It's just another reason I've come to dislike HC. Frankly, I didn't need Obama, his campaign, or anyone else to fan the fire because I was so utterly repulsed by her comment the first time I heard it, and that was way before I heard anyone's opinion on the matter. How could it not be obvious that her comments were out of line, and rather inexplicable for such a seasoned politician. Please Hillary, stop playing the victim card. It doesn't help your case.

Posted by: spicegal | May 25, 2008 6:37 PM

obama takes money from oil barons oh my. he's a true politician through and through.

Posted by: hold your horses | May 25, 2008 6:37 PM

It is amazing what disrespect you Obama supporters have for Hillary Clinton, the most powerful woman in America, who should be president. Why? Because she is prepared, visionary and smart. This is not a woman who just fell from the turnip truck. She was a Watergate prosecutor and a powerful attorney--making by the way more money than Obama could dream of.

As a journalist I can tell you that she is the smartest of the three candidates. However, the spin doctors of the Obama campaign and the liberal media have waged war against Hillary. And don't think that nut Howard Dean likes the Clintons. It has been a well orchestrated campaign by the DNC.

Unfortunately, the Democratic Party is going to suffer in the end. Obama is not electable and will go the way of all other liberal candidates. Frankly, he is an arrogant and polished politician who has spouted change but has not changed anything in his political career.

He has produced a race gulf in this country that is not going to heel for some time. And he will destroy the Democratic Party in the end.

Has anyone seen the pools from Florida. Seventy percent of the Democrats are going to vote for McCain. That ought to shock superdelegates from their Obama coma. The only good news is that it will be Hillary's in four years after Obama's disasterous election.

Posted by: Political Watchdog | May 25, 2008 6:37 PM

Hillary is unelectable....she is vile, hateful, lying, pretends like she is sleeping so bill can carry on in the white house, then stays so she can use him to run for presidency, she touts her whiteness, she only uses the word "I", if you follow her life a lot of people commit suicide or dies mysteriously.In 1971, she was an intern at a law firm that defended radicals like ayers, when obama is in trouble, she jumps on the bag wagon and help to smear him, she sent my brother to war, she supported Nafta and send my dad's job overseas...SO DAMN RIGHT, SHE IS UNELECTABLE...
Obama's followers, we put our money where our mouth is...we actually support our leader, he does not have to lend him self money..He iw organized and motives people, he uses "we" that is what democracy is about, "we the people"..


JUST SAY NO TO HILARY, SO SHE CAN GO SHOOT BILL AND POP A PILL...and her supporters repeat a waco...so we can have a better America...a purged one . After which people of every race and and class can live as one...(instead of hilary's hateful whites) (freaking make us whites look bad)

AND YEAH IM WHITE...IM NO BETTER THAN A BLACK MAN OR WOMAN...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:37 PM

What is so upsetting about this episode is the manner in which Hillary made her comments. She referenced an assassination in the same way that one would reference the weather. It gives one the impression that it is a Freudian slip, that she is subconsciously wishing for such an event to occur, because anyone with an ounce of sense would have phrased this differently. Also upsetting is the non-apology, which specifically mentioned the Kennedys but made no mention of the Obama family. I have to imagine they were horrified, in that comments like this can be enabling for those who may already be predisposed to violence. I think that the Obama family deserves a heartfelt apology.

Posted by: Michael | May 25, 2008 6:38 PM

Never in my life have I heard any reference to assassinations during presidential campaigns , until now . Why is that ?

Posted by: Soflindie | May 25, 2008 6:38 PM

One thing is abundantly clear from reading/watching main stream news media, as well as reading public responses to media reports in this type of forum and listening to politicians. The USA really, REALLY needs to emphasize critical thinking in its schools.

Posted by: Elohi | May 25, 2008 6:38 PM

It's hard to believe that white Hilary supporters would switch to McCain for more of the same Republican mismanagement and incompetence.

That "logic" sounds more like well thought out campaign propaganda from Clinton camp to scare voters.

Posted by: concernedEuropean | May 25, 2008 6:38 PM

u vote for mccain you get bush... at least these guys are entertaining.. you are a fatalist if you want more republicans.. they are not even funny.. the are just tyrannical.. and they could care about you one single bit. mccain did NOT vote on the GI bill that went through the senate.. He could care less about GIs... you want that for president??????

Posted by: exxonmobil4prez | May 25, 2008 6:38 PM

Obama campaign seizes everything anyone says about anything and internalizes it to their perceived political advantage, be it charges of racism, statements of appeasement, or anything else they can distort and then feed to their masses of non-thinking, frenetic, paranoid, and immature followers who have been whipped into a fanatic frenzy over their candidate. You cannot win a general election like this and, if you do, a country cannot be governed with this. In your apparent victory mode, you still sound hostile and angry. Why on earth would I want to vote for your candidate and exchange the fanaticism of the religious right for the fanaticism of hero worship? His campaign capitalizes on the emotions and not the intellect of all of his supporters who have dissed every segment of demographics not in support of him but who are exercising their democratic right to support the candidate of their choice in an election. All of these college graduates apparently have wasted their parents' money with their education. They seem bi-polar, extolling his greatness at one time and calling him a hypocrite when he tries to be diplomatic in his reference to HRC. I cannot wait to see their reaction when he must do something in office that they do not like!

Posted by: nana4 | May 25, 2008 6:39 PM

No surprises here. Hillary misspoke? NO, say it ain't so! Hillary attempted to point fingers at someone else? NO, it just can't be!
I just can't figure these Hillary rah-rahs who continue to blindly support her no matter what.
Please Hillary, ask someone the meaning of 'bowing out gracefully'.

Posted by: ct | May 25, 2008 6:39 PM

don't believe that Clinton was insinuating that Obama might be assassinated.

I do think her claim to be a student of history is either (A) a complete fabrication or (B) she hopes no one else is a student of history and won't debunk her statement.

In 1968, the primary election season began in mid-February, and at the beginning of the primary season, we had a sitting Democratic president who was in the running. Subtract 6 weeks from the current primary season, and it would have been over in mid-April.

In 1992, Bill Clinton's rivals had, for the most part, dropped out and the party leaders were coalesced behind his campaign by the end of April. Ask anyone who voted in the primaries in May and June of 1992 if their vote counted for anything. They will tell you no.

There is so much talk about Senator Clinton's brilliance in politics and history, but I am increasingly unconvinced.

Posted by: Ann | May 25, 2008 6:40 PM

The fact that Clinton would try to score a political point on this issue is beyond the pale. I think it should end any consideration she would have been given for the vice presidency.

Posted by: Sarah 2 | May 25, 2008 6:40 PM

I am a 50 year old voting Democrat. I voted for Clinton in the 1990s and enjoyed the economy then.

I doubt that this candidacy is the feather in the cap of feminists. Clinton was the wife of a President. This is reminiscent of Imelda Marcos and Eva Peron. Can you say "banana republic"? Why all the who-haa by women? When an unaffiliated woman contests the position, then feminists will have their day! I laud that day, but this is not it.

Posted by: Christopher Turner | May 25, 2008 6:40 PM

Obaama will get the nomination and spend the rest of the fall campaign trying to convince Hillary supporters to back him. You'll have four more Bush years. Will be Obamas scare tactic. David Axelrod keeps repeating over and over that after the nominee is selected the Democrats will unite. Just like his mentor...a dreamer. Talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
I've seen a lot worse in America (riots in the cities, VietNam war, recession, etc.) during the past and for you "educated, younger etc. Obama supporters...no VietNam, just college, no hard times, just buy, buy buy and expect Uncle Sam to bail you out when times get tough.

We Hillary supporters are tougher. We can wait for 2012. As I said, give Obama the nomination and then when he loses because of a fractured party, he won't be able to blame anyone but himself. (although he always says "there's no room for those tactics in this campaign but he does it behind the scenes, sure blame it on everyone else!)There aren't enough minority votes to put him in the white house!

Posted by: jan | May 25, 2008 6:41 PM

Hillary is blaming Barack for what she said and claiming that she is still in the race for women?

Well, I am a woman and I am totally disgusted by Hillary's lies and deceptions. She does not represent women because all women are not power hungry, liars, spend thrifts or multi-millionaires. Hillary is still in the race for she and Bill. Not for women.
As for Hillary blaming Barack for something she said is typical Hillary behavior. It is not normal behavior and all women are NOT like Hillary.

I resent the fact that she and her campaign compares Hillary's personal fight for power to all women. She is not representative of American women. PERIOD!

Posted by: Debmood | May 25, 2008 6:41 PM

"I WILL NOT stand with a band of Obama supporters who have no respect for my candidate and the historic nature of her candidacy." posted by K 6:30pm

You mean like the respect Senator Clinton has shown by not congratulating Senator Obama when he wins a primary as he always does to her when she does?
Or by her campaign feeding Senator Obama's picture in a turban to the drudge report?
Or her campaigning blackening Senator Obama up for one of their videos?
Or implying that the only hard working Americans are white Americans thereby implying that Senator Obama's supporters are nothing but lazy minorities or elitists?
Or that he's not a muslim "as far as she knows"?
etc. etc. etc.

you mean that type of respect?

Posted by: erich | May 25, 2008 6:41 PM

Looks whose back- Jekyll and Hyde!

Posted by: arthurW from Virginia | May 25, 2008 6:43 PM

What an evil vile woman.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:43 PM

here's an idea: all of your Hillary supporters who hate Obama, and all of you Obama supporters who hate Hillary - why don't you vote for McCain in November?

Thanks! I appreciate it!! LOLOLOL

Posted by: Straight Talker | May 25, 2008 6:43 PM

A person calling himself/herself "The Real Truth" stated this about Obama: "We've got to pursue everything, and I mean everything, to ensure this nut job doesn't get into the White House."

Given what this person is obviously getting at, can the Washington Post ban "The Real Truth" from posting again?

Posted by: Sarah 2 | May 25, 2008 6:43 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how hysterical and gullible a part of Hillary's supporters are.

Loose talk about assassinations have NO place in campaigns like these. Every semi-sentient being should be able to recognize this plain fact. Hillary DID talk about it, not just once, but even before, too. How is this Obama's fault?! Did he make her do it?!?!

Hillary simply doesn't have the personality to really admit mistakes, and I can't remember the last time she was giving a genuine apology. We had 8 years of that already.

No more.

Posted by: Mentar | May 25, 2008 6:43 PM

There is no way I can buy into the fact that she doesn't really hope that something will happen to Obama before he secures the nomination. No matter how much she denies it or says she was mis-interpreted her words say otherwise.

It's just a no-brainer. There needs to be no interpretation. She said what she meant. Pure and simple.

But that isn't the most important issue at hand. The Florida and Michigan issue is much greater. It seems Clinton will stop at nothing to get what she thinks she and she alone deserves.

The Clinton camp issuing a statement that they will fight no matter what the DNC decision is shows they clearly have a disregard for anyone's rules but their own!

Is this the kind of Tyrant we want for our next President? I thought we were getting rid of one. Not out to get another one!

Geeeeze!!!!

Posted by: Jazziette Devereaux | May 25, 2008 6:44 PM

Of course the Obama camp, Obama fans and the media jump on Hillary, take her statement out of context then talk about her like a dog. They call her all kinds of names, ridicule her and never listen to her remarks about the statement. They will put their own negative meaning to what she says and then scream liar, *itch and on and on all the while talking about how negative SHE is. Oh heaven forbid, I wonder what these people will do when they realize that Obama is a simple man and not the messiah. What pray tell will they do when they realize that Obama can't work miracles.

Posted by: mamacoo | May 25, 2008 6:44 PM

I believe Clinton, on a number of occasions (before Friday, and outside her interview with Time Magazine), and without mentioning RFK or assassination, justified staying in the race because "anything can/might happen."

I'm certain that when she said that, she was referring to the possibility that the Large Hadron Collier might generate a black hole that would sweep Obama away, or perhaps that Obama would be on the wrong end of an alien abduction, or maybe even that the real Barack Obama died as an infant, and the guy currently running for president against her would be revealed as an identity thief, etc., etc.

Perish the thought that she ever, ever, even in her wildest imagination, thought that assassination might be one such "anything."

Mal y soit, qui mal y pense.

Posted by: Frank | May 25, 2008 6:44 PM

Terry Mac and Hillary would do or say anything to get her elected.

She made a mistake. A serious blunder for a person who was once the presumptive nominee.

To defend her statement or try to blame the outrage on Barack is incredulous.

I don't care about context.

The word "assasination" does not belong in any political context.

Especially this year.


Posted by: Paul "Sluggo" Shelly Jr. | May 25, 2008 6:45 PM

POOR WITTLE HIWWARY!

EVEWYBODY PICKING ON HER!

WHAT IS THIS BS, ANYWAY???

And she says she's fit to be Commander-in-Chief? Gimme a break!

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 6:45 PM

Hillary has constanly made errors and derogatory comments and almost always crying out that it was mispoken. Hillary should have been gone. The media and others are almost always covering up for the Clintons.

Posted by: Dot | May 25, 2008 6:45 PM

This latest saga with Hillary Clinton and her campaign on the RFK comment, is sad and tragic. What is even more tragic is that, we have enough idiots in the US, who would believe this nonsense from this lunatic, Hillary Clinton and her campaign, blaming Sen. Obama for Hillary Clinton's moronic comment.

Terence R. McAuliffe: I am glad, I feverently campaigned and lobbied the DNC not to reappoint you, the Chairman. I had the good sense and foresight to know, you are an idiot. I am glad, I did that. I can assure you, you are finished in Democratic Party politics!

Posted by: Ignatius Anyanwu | May 25, 2008 6:46 PM

No Hill, Nobama. It's a fact. The Democrats had better decide right now what they want to do. We can fight amongst ourselves or we can take these ultra-talented two candidates and go win the White House. But the arrogance of Obama supporters who continually say, "He doesn't need her," are dreaming. Parse it any way you want, but in this country, we have to count all the votes. The certified votes in Florida and Michigan are no subject to the delegate fiasco the DNC has created. Therefore, Hillary is atop the popular vote count and is said to be getting a half million or so votes out of Puerto Rico next Sunday. That will bring totals to well over 18 million people. You cannot tell 18 million people that you don't care whether they vote the ticket or not. We need to stop worrying about the media's need for speed with these blogs and worry about whether or not we eat, drive, breathe, have health care, end the wars, etc.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 6:46 PM

Please Hillary, STOP BEGGING and concede.

Posted by: muley | May 25, 2008 6:46 PM

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Obama et al could have chosen to shut up and see what happened before making an unfortunate comment that they had to backtrack on when it became clear that they were wrong about this issue. That makes it clear who is causing what here.

Bobby Kennedy is saying you conspiracy nuts are wrong about this. Do you repsect nobody and nothing beyond your own fears?

HRC has won, what, 5/6 primaries and many more popular votes in the last 2 months. BHO is losing momentum and is scared of HRC.
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Posted by: JSF | May 25, 2008 6:46 PM

Hillary doesn't have a leg to stand on. She screwed up and now wants to lay the blame at someone else's feet. This woman should not be given the keys to the White House. This reminds me of George Macaca Allen. I'm definitely no fan of George Allen, but at least he didn't try to blame his opponent, Jim Webb, or the media for fanning the controversy. He knew he had really screwed up and took his licks like a man instead of acting like a victim. I used to like Hillary and was one of the few to defend her to the hilt. Unfortunately, it seems the things she's been accused of by the rabid right appear to be true. She could have run a far more positive campaign, but instead chose her strategy right from Rove's GOP playbook. That alone is a good reason not to vote for her because it's a good indication of how she'll also behave if she were the president, more Republican-like dishonesty and dirty tricks. I say no thank-you. We need real change.

Posted by: spicegal | May 25, 2008 6:47 PM

It is time to get down to what really matters in a decision about a candidate for President. Who can hock and spit better? Judge them on sound, duration and distance. No more bowling, no more shots and beers, let's get serious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:47 PM

the democrats are "gypsies, tramps and thieves"...I'm voting for McCain.

Posted by: dachef1 | May 25, 2008 6:47 PM

I can't believe we are about to let a sexist black communist & muslim come in and tear this party apart.

Many democrats have lost their since of direction and forgotten their history.

To these white women who have turned their back on Hillary. Shame on you, have you no idea where you came from and what many before you had to do to get you to a point where you can even vote?

Posted by: CharmaineWV | May 25, 2008 6:48 PM

Er..um.. Uh, we did not bust our arses founding this great nation so that every shill and two-bit harlot could rule over this great land.

We've rolled over in our graves until we're sore over the horrible "false flag" inside terrorism that is the Bush Administration to soil our good name. Now you ask us not to rise from our graves in true zombie statesmen fashion for the lynching and assassination of another brilliant black man to maintain what wreaks of imperialism?

We will not allow it here!

Signed,

The not-at-all-well U.S. Presidents

Posted by: Dead U.S. Presidents | May 25, 2008 6:48 PM

Obama seizes every remark made and turns it into a political insult. How in the world is he going to handle the WH?

He is saying this stuff because he is in Puerto Rico where he is losing badly. He cannot win the Hispanic vote.

The Republicans are floating lots of stuff around the internet that they hope to use against Obama. Like a tape of Michelle calling people whiteys from the pulpit of Wright's church. The judge in the Resko trial has already said he is keeping Obama's name out of the news, but there are connections. Obama is desperate to secure the nomination before this stuff comes out.

Notice all the problems Obama is having since Wright came up. Suddenly his base is gone and Hillary is winning primaries again. No wonder he's whining

Posted by: LMC | May 25, 2008 6:48 PM

It is America's best chance to elect Lady Liberty in flesh and blood. The chance may never again come.

America is exceptional among all democracies in the sense that it's people believe in pursuing freedom and democracy and propagating it. This has been the battle cry in all America's wars and battles in the 1800s,1900s and now.

Hillary as woman president wiil not only be very competent in her economic, security and foreign policy, but she will be a true beacon of hope,freedom.liberty and democracy for all the people in the world. Electing a woman president will take america to ever greater heights that other countries can only dream of reaching.

she has beaten obama in terms of 2004 electoral votes and the popular vote if florida and michigan are counted. she has 148 of kerry's 251 votes in 2004, and 308 out of the 538 electoral college votes for 2008. that is very solid evidence that she is the strongest of the candidates. the democratic primary results are very misleading-the democratic party system is undemocratic and flawed.

if the party wants to fix america's image abroad as it claims. it must fix democracy in it's own party first. only then can the party and america be a true beacon of freedom and democracy

Posted by: observer | May 25, 2008 6:49 PM


Hillary will self destruct and vaporize like the wicked witch in Oz.

She Caould never survive losing which she will surely do, and deservedly so.

I doubt that Susan B Anthony had this sort of person in mind when she worked to get the vote for women.

Good luck Barak and John, may the best candidate win.

Posted by: roneida | May 25, 2008 6:49 PM

I am so disappointed Hilary Clinton has not honorably accepted responsibility for her own words. Period. Public has interpreted her comments. Obama campaign has actually been quite gracious. Accusing Barack Obama campaign appears divisive psychological use of redirecting focus. Blame other side. I researched what Barack Obama gave to media and what they said. Nothing they did was inflammatory. Did they give to news media yes. Hilary Clinton Campaign does same. All campaigns do. What keeps this going is public interpretation and news publication. Sadly appears true legal implied meaning is not in Hilary Clinton's favor. Actually she should feel very lucky he is not attacking her. I somehow find it disturbing she is not being so honorable about her comments. Blaming Barack Obama??? This makes no sense to me. Only will cause her more problems. Hilary Clinton is actually much better than this. Why is she stooping so low? We all have to take responsibility for our own spoken words.

Posted by: Sharon | May 25, 2008 6:49 PM

Back to McCain. Many retired and active duty military families, like mine, are outraged that Senator McCain refused to support the expanded GI Bill. Not only that, he supports outsourcing our military tanker contracts to a foreign country at the expense of American jobs and security.

Shall I go on? He has a temper that makes him unsuitable to be President since he cannot control it. Do we want him flying off the handle at a foreign dignitary?

What about the Keating Five scandal? Come on, Democrats (of both sides), join in!

Posted by: connect the dots | May 25, 2008 6:49 PM

white people even smart ones who live in cities like me know who has split the party. Obama and the DNC. I hope enough whites protest and bankrupt the DNC let them find their support from the afro-american community. 17 million and strong reject Barack Obama.

Posted by: Jessica | May 25, 2008 6:50 PM

Were she a man she would be toast by now.

How do you do it, Mrs. Clinton? She cries in NH.

Assassination. Oh, she's just tired.

It's Obama's fault.

Jesu Christi, nobody with a penis would be standing after this stuff, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: Richard McDonough | May 25, 2008 6:50 PM

Well, the Clintons had Vince Foster and Ron Brown knocked off. I'm sure they will find a way to kill off OHB as well.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | May 25, 2008 6:50 PM

None of the would be Nominees dare to talk about Balancing the Budget.
How high would our National Debt would go? from 2009 to 2013
BHO Tax and Spend ?
MC Borrow and Spend ?

Posted by: Zien106 | May 25, 2008 6:50 PM

I'm a Hillary supporter who will be voting for McCain in the Fall. And I know many others who feel the same way. Obama is a divisive candidate. HE has divided us. And if he and his supporters think that Hillary's supporters will just fall in line. Think again. We will be throwing our support to John McCain.

Posted by: deb | May 25, 2008 6:50 PM


The deceptive, amoral Clintons.... they got Fox news going too... who would of thunk it? But it is Obamas fault. They should be shamed out of public lfe. She is a provacature, and even asuming best case on motive which is riduculous given her lies and desperation, the likely consequence as many have noted is to get the crazy's with guns going... they are nto stupid.


From M Egan, Boston Herald:

OK, after wincing, I watched the video a painful dozen times more. She did look exhausted. The "assassinated" remark seemed spontaneous, not planned. It just slipped out, though in an oddly matter-of-fact fashion, as if she were wearily correcting some mis-reported detail of her health care plan, as if she completely didn't get how "Oh-no!!!!"-inducing her remark was.
And not to the Kennedys (to whom she later apologized), but to Obama and all those who've worried about his safety quietly, among friends, but never out loud, certainly never to a newspaper editorial board to be broadcast coast to coast.
Still, I could have bought her line - that this was just another late-in-the-day mistake.
But when you look closer at her excuse, it doesn't wash. They never quite do. The familiar pattern emerges: deception on deception.
Hillary later explained the "assassination" remark by claiming, "The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days" because of Senator Ted Kennedy's brain cancer diagnosis. Yet she said more or less the same thing in March, to Time magazine, when Senator Kennedy was not, presumably, on her mind.
"Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June," she told Time.
"Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual," she said.
But when you look closer again, the remarks are not true, again. Bill Clinton's primary race was essentially over in March, when Paul Tsongas dropped out and Clinton faced no serious opposition. As for RFK's candidacy, it was not a long national soap opera. No, RFK won his first primary May 7 and was murdered four weeks later.
In fact this whole idea we've heard endlessly from Hillary - that primaries routinely run from January through June - is simply baloney.
Now let me point out here: None of this means I think she actually wants somebody to off Obama. God, I hope not.
But I remember seeing Obama at a rally in New Hampshire, jogging up to the stage, the screams and blaring Springsteen music, the electricity, the mania, really. It seems like a million years ago. It was January. Anyway, it hit me and the people with me in an instant. This guy is a phenomenon. Phenomenons get the nuts going. Something could happen to this guy.
The thought was so horrific yet so possible you only whispered it, then stopped, lest thinking it make it real. A little voice just goes off in your brain warning, no, no, don't even dare. Here's the kindest spin I can put on this mess: Hillary's so lost, she can't hear that little voice anymore.

Posted by: daren | May 25, 2008 6:51 PM

never never ever Hussein, if not Hillary then vote McCain.

The new white peoples mantra.

Posted by: hank | May 25, 2008 6:51 PM

As an enthusiastic Obama supporter, I understood the inference from Hillary Clinton. Its not over, the campaign goes on.

What I don't understand is the "injured warrior-hero" approach of the Clinton camp. Only a Hillary-Hate obsession by some the far-right was feeding this story, it should have been left to die. The RFK comment should have been old business, but her campaign decided that any press was good press, when the media has recognized the real inevitableness of Barack Obama.
What nonsense!

Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008 6:52 PM

Blaming others for her own mistakes is a classic Hillary Clinton tactic. And never ever admiting you're wrong is another. This woman is so unfit to be president its scary.

Posted by: AmiBlue | May 25, 2008 6:52 PM

Hillary Clinton is extremely intelligent and a magnitude more manipulative and conniving than the average politician. Obama is fresh, idealistic, and someone who can be less divisive, less polarizing with the issues before us. Our agenda is a full one that has been stifled by bickering and demagoguery. I am a white man, a veteran, and I support Mr. Obama. I long for when Hillary does the right thing and accepts that she is the one who is less electable -- and it has nothing to do with being female.

Posted by: JWinSoCal | May 25, 2008 6:52 PM

If this country were to vote according to these comments, Ignorant would probably win. It is NEVER, EVER OK to invoke the word "A' in any campaign. It is sick and deplorable,like the candidate who uttered that. Tonya Harding has nothing on her! She has shown her true colors and to think I used to admire her. PLEASE Superdelegates, make this nightmare end. Obama all the way.

Posted by: Linda Lutes | May 25, 2008 6:52 PM

In what bizzaro world is Hillary living with her intention of seating both the MI and FL delegates in her favor? How is that even remotely considered a "fair" election. Hillary's poor me, victim mentality has not worked for her the entire campaign, save for when she shed the tears hoping for the sympathetic vote. She is what is wrong with politics in this day and age. Barack might not be the absolutely godsend for candidates, but at least he's different then the status quo.

I'm tired of elections being about the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: Sam A. | May 25, 2008 6:53 PM

jessica,
hillary should try to give you some GED lessons or something...African Americans are rich too...LOL.
OPRAH ALONE...........RICHEST WOMAN IN AMERICA.....NEVER REALIZED SHE WAS BLACK DID YA?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:53 PM

Someone please save her from herself. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If anything, the Obama camp has been trying to move away from the comments.

What benefit would it be to Obama to keep a story about assassinating him going??? Hillary it's time to go. You political life is over. OVER!!! New York doesn't even want you back. I'm not sure Arkansas does either. We may have to exile Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: LA | May 25, 2008 6:54 PM

Call me a naive 56 yr old woman: I have always been horrified by racism, but never realized it was so prevalent until this election.

Even though I think this RFK comment by HRC has been blown out of proportion, I am appalled to read the comments by all those who will not vote for Obama because he is black. Wake up, America!
Most of the world is NOT black - you are living in a very tiny uneducated, small-minded world of your own making. Obama is not marxist! Gosh, have you ever even read anything by Karl Marx? Get some education, meet the rest of the country and oh, by the way, try finding some teeth for your sorry evil mouths!

Posted by: Kris | May 25, 2008 6:54 PM

Hillary has succeeded in completely turning my stomach.

Posted by: seesthru | May 25, 2008 6:54 PM

Okay, I admit it. There is a reason that Hillary has been hanging around. She believed that some industrious reporter would start to vet some of these stories about Obama and that she would then have her best shot. It is clear that this media who loves him so dearly is not going to do this. Obama will get the nomination. The Democrats will get the October surprise. Obama's name is deep into the trial of Tony Rezko (it's just not cool to let the mob buy you a mansion!) and there are tapes of speeches from TUCC that are going to further shock the core voting base. That's why if the DNC got everyone in a room and could therefore create ONE BRAIN from all of those people, they would demand that this be a joint ticket. It is the only shot Democrats have.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 6:54 PM

I can't wait to see the public meltdown Hillary is going to have when she doesn't get the nomination. It is going to go down in history. You think Gore's fit in 2000 was bad? Just wait for this. Classic!

Posted by: Shutup Billary | May 25, 2008 6:55 PM

I think Mr. "the real truth" needs to be watched by the FBI for his comments above. If his remarks are not a real threat, then I don't know what is.

Posted by: lisa vant wout | May 25, 2008 6:56 PM

Hillary, it's time to close down the race and fade into the background. You are only hurting the Democrats chances of winning at this point. If one is that out-to-lunch as to make such an obviously silly comment about RFK, perhaps it is time to leave not to lead. Time to go, and in a congenial manner without further destroying the hopes of all Democrats around the world.

Posted by: Andrew | May 25, 2008 6:56 PM


There you go again.. Clinton!!

The Clintons are masters at these old political games. They cant stay focused on working for the good of the country like the Kennedys.

They will say or do anything to further their own agenda which is not in the best interest of the country

Posted by: Chang | May 25, 2008 6:57 PM

Al Gore had the wisdom and grace to step down when it was clear that this was in the country's best interests. Maybe not his own personal interests, but the interests of others. As a result, Al Gore is one of the most respected figures in the country. Since Hillary Clinton lacks wisdom and/or grace, it will be more difficult for her to give up her quest to be president just because it will help out the Democratic party for her to do so. But if she wants to retain any measure of respect at all, she should do like Al Gore and look beyond her own personal interests, if she can.

Posted by: George Robertson | May 25, 2008 6:57 PM

Hillary Supporters stand strong!

Vote for McCain in 2008! Vote for Clinton in 2012.

I refuse to vote for someone that surrounds himself with "America haters"

If you love America & its true democratic ideals, JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA!!!

Posted by: SK | May 25, 2008 6:57 PM

One last note: I am not only 56, but WHITE and would love to see a woman in the White
House. Hillary is so hated, the Dem party will LOSE if she is the nominee (no chance), so give it up graciously.
Go Barack! I believe in the change you can bring about!!!!

Posted by: Kris | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

OK, so Democrats need a balanced ticket to bring us to victory. Barack needs to balance his base with Hillary's. Now, where can we find a qualified, White, blue collar, high school dropout hayseed earning less than $50,000 per year?

Posted by: Steve | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

If you want to see how disgusting ovama's psychological tactics are, take a look at this video. In it, a compilation of of the same tactic in different rallies, he always has to stop his speech because a "woman" (always a woman) "faints". The clear implication being that he causes this "hysteria" in women, he is so charismatic, that women faint in front of him.

This is the "change" that ovama is offering this country. Follow the prophet, he will produce miracles. This man is a black Jim Jones, a con artist, a charmer a la Rasputin.

"Many consider him nothing less than a savior. They're entranced by Obama and his messianic campaign, which regularly has seen swooning women fainting in his presence. But in addition to the public, the cultural elite and even much of the news media have been likewise captivated. New Age luminary and mega-bestselling author Deepak Chopra says Obama's presidency would "represent a quantum leap in American consciousness," superstar Oprah Winfrey says Obama's "tongue [is] dipped in the unvarnished truth," and MSNBC's "Hardball" anchor Chris Matthews recently gushed, "He [Obama] seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament."


http://www.breitbart.tv/html/48404.html

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

The way she worded it for the masses wasn't smart on her part. For the general public need to keep it simple. She is in hole and is hopeing for something, what it might be who knows but its not coming.

Posted by: hyram | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

Before the primary process started I believed that there was no way I would vote Republican again:but the democrats have managed to give me two options that assure another vote for McCain.My true choice would be none of the above;but that would only serve Queen Hillary or Barrack Obama and there quest to re write our Constitution.

Posted by: Charles Bonner | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

This is one sad, sad race. On the Republican side, I think McCain is a shmoe, and all the infighting on the Democrat side makes me disgusted with both of them. I would have voted for Thompson. However, rather than see Obama in the White House, I will vote for McCain, because Obama is way to leftist radical for my taste.

Posted by: Jamal | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

It's going to fire the base of her supporters, but I see an ugly conclusion to this episode, because it's bound to backfire.

Posted by: charles | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

What?

Posted by: Terry McAulliffe | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

I find it curious that Hillary would have chosen those words, given her understanding of the sound-bite centric news media. As she used the RFK reference in previous remarks, her campaign team must have decided this was a useful tack and continued to encourage its use. It would appear to me that she know exactly what she was saying, and measured the risk of controversy against what political capital she thought she might gain. Now that the capital is evaporating, or even turning negative, the issue must be spun into something less damaging to her campaign. The easiest thing is to turn the blame against someone else.

Using exhaustion as an excuse for a slip of the tongue doesn't play. What will she do when the phone rings at 3:00 AM and she needs to make a quick, world altering decision? Claim she's too tired?

Posted by: BobC | May 25, 2008 6:58 PM

Hey Hillary, You opened your mouth and inserted your arse, Obama didn't rant and rave about the stink. Unlike what you did over his "bitter" comment. It's time for you to get over it the better 'man' wins this year. Obama 2008

Posted by: Hillaryus | May 25, 2008 6:59 PM

I am a 49 year old woman who supports Senator Clinton.
I am sorry for her remarks, because they can easily be taken out of context and suggest something very ugly.
I am sorrier, that as Democrats, we can never just give someone the benefit of the doubt.
Hillary Clinton, no matter what you think, is not evil anymore than is Barak Obama, for the "inartful" comments he has made throughout this campaign.
As someone once said, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.
The facts are, both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama are dedicated public servants who have served their states and in Senator Clinton's case, her nation well.
Either will make a better President than John McCain.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Senator Obama needs my vote in November, but I promise you, the best way to get me to stay home, which would be a first in 30 years of voting, is to keep up these hateful attacks that have no basis in fact and are only uninformed opinions.

Posted by: Paula | May 25, 2008 6:59 PM

Now that Clinton's remark is being passed along as funny by Fox News, we can see that words like these are not idle. They are pernicious, and yes, indeed, Sen. Clinton, you owe one major apology to Sen. Obama, his family , and the American people. In the meantime, the clearer heads among the Democrats and the voters will put this whole thing to rest by June 3rd. Then it's on to the general election.

Posted by: Eugene | May 25, 2008 6:59 PM

"Asked if Clinton has personally called Obama to apologize for the reference, McAuliffe said she has not, "nor should she." He added, "Let's be clear. This had nothing to with Senator Obama or his campaign."

Wow spoken like a man with no future.

GO HILLARY - GO PAST GO - DO NOT COLLECT $200 - GO NOW!

Superdelegates you are not being so super when you let this sort of thing carry on - It is destroying the DNC.

Posted by: Wild Bill | May 25, 2008 7:00 PM

Sorry for the typo in my previous post: What I was trying to convey to racist Americans is that most of the world is NOT WHITE. Wake up to the 21st century!

Posted by: Kris | May 25, 2008 7:00 PM

I hope, the Secret Service has had a talking-to with Hillary Clinton. I think she has give enough warning and raised enough alarm and concern with her irresponsible and troubling comments on RFK, that it would be irresponsible for the Service not to talk, or have talked to and warned her, to immediately, cease from making such comments that may jeorpardize the safety and security of Sen. Obama and his family, and make the job of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect them, more difficult. Having been a First Lady, and a serious candidate for the nomination to the presidency should have made her know better, and she is not entitled by anything -who she is, or the law, to make comments that have potentials to jeopardize public safety and security of another official of the US Government -another US Senator and a presidential candidate.

Hillary Clinton's comments are dangerous and should be dealt with, accordingly.

Posted by: Ignatius Anyanwu | May 25, 2008 7:00 PM

Duck, Obama, duck!!

Posted by: George | May 25, 2008 7:01 PM

And another thought.

If a write in campaign for Hillary costs Obama the presidency, Clinton is done. The Democrat party will never forgive her for costing them the presidency. She will be considered lower than Ralph Nader.

Posted by: BobC | May 25, 2008 7:03 PM

What a vile, evil deceitful succubus. Now everybody knows what's been festering in her dark, deluded mind. I hope she rots in hell. Typical Hillary. Say something absolutely horrid, blame the person you victimized, then try and act as if SHE has been victimized.

Will somebody please show this witch the door?

Posted by: Tina | May 25, 2008 7:03 PM

allegation and inuendo are Clintons tools of choice. As a 55 yo woman I find her to be offensive. For the Clinton-ites, please open your eyes! Support Obama. Please.

Posted by: gonzo | May 25, 2008 7:04 PM

Can iget my mone yback from hillary for my donations?

hillary.com give my money back

Posted by: RP | May 25, 2008 7:04 PM

HRC, You can't be forgiven for this.

No sane person, mind the racists, would vote to make you a president.

You can't be a great senator anymore.

NY'ers won't vote to make you a governor.

Try WV, they don't mind white-monsters.

Posted by: Zexorcist | May 25, 2008 7:04 PM

Obama should end his campaign immediately! He has made the most awful, conniving and unspeakable statements just about every day. The latest is thinking that he is in Sunshine, FL giving a speech when he really is in Sunrise, FL. How dare him say "Sunshine" when it really was "Sunrise." "Sunshine" is just unspeakable. And, this isn't the first time -- just last week he thought he was in Sioux City, when he was actually in Sioux Falls -- oh, the shame!! He is the most conniving, sleazy and dishonest person alive. Barack should drop out now and save us all the trouble of not voting for him.

Posted by: GiveItARestObamabots | May 25, 2008 7:05 PM

Apologize to Barack (And Michelle) and move on to the next primary Hillary - this will blow over or die down eventually.

Hillary can do it!

Posted by: Gloria | May 25, 2008 7:05 PM

Clinton posters on this site cheering on the "A" talk at this point are not helping their candidate or their country. Time to chill out, all Americans, and remember those who gave their lives for our country.

Posted by: Eugene | May 25, 2008 7:05 PM

This is the reason Barry has backed off the non-story. Immediately after the non-story was reported his campaign put out a two page memo instructing supporters on negative talking points about this non-story. He will do ANYTHING to get elected. If that means dragging an American hero(RFK) through the mud to advance his political agenda, so be it. Barry knew he was in trouble when the SON of RFK defended HRC's remarks. Now he will pay the price. It appears that Barry, the divider, is just another hypocritical politician who will say or do anything to get elected. He is the master of negative politics. The delusional paranoid Obamafools who spew assassination conspiracies are sad sick puppies. Seek professional help.

Posted by: Jack Straw | May 25, 2008 7:05 PM

The comment was apparently stating that Kennedy's campaign could have gone beyond June had he not been killed. Those saying this comment is a threat to Obama's security are apparently displaying the tendency of Obama supporters to think the world revolves around them.

It's been noted elsewhere that Clinton could also have mentioned Jimmy Carter's nomination race, but political correctness and attempts not to step on the toes of certain of the Kennedy family really shouldn't be reasons to shy away from pointing out the obvious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:06 PM

This is the growing problem with Hilary Clinton and her delusional campaign. Hillary Clinton has made this same blunder about RFK's assasination relating it to Obama before. She said this 3 times before now its Obama's fault because she's hopping he would be insasinated as a result for her to stay in the race. Anything can happen.

Posted by: Brad | May 25, 2008 7:06 PM

I never called for Mr. Obama to be assassinated. Stop putting words in my mouth people.

I want people who are united against Obama to pursue everything "legally" possibly to ensure he's not elected. That means really digging further into his background and exploring his links to unsavory groups or people. I believe that there's a skeleton or two in his closet that hasn't been vetted yet.

Will admit though that I'm more concerned about the safety of our country than the safety of one man.

America is a great country. I will not idly stand by and let some political novice with a questionable character come in a destroy what this nation has built!

Posted by: The Real Truth | May 25, 2008 7:06 PM

"Hillary Supporters stand strong!

Vote for McCain in 2008! Vote for Clinton in 2012.

I refuse to vote for someone that surrounds himself with "America haters"

If you love America & its true democratic ideals, JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA!!!"
SK YOU ARE LOSER LIKE HILARY. AMERICA AND IT'S TRUE IDEALS? AND YOU STILL HAVE RACIAL HATRED IN YOUR HEARTS?
CLINTON'S STATEMENT ABOUT HARDWORKING WITH VOTERS IS NOT SPEWING HATE IN AMERICA?
DEMOCRACY IS WHEN THE PEOPLE SPEAK..THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN..THEY HAVE PUT BARACK IN THE LEAD..IF YOU HAD RESPECT FOR AMERICA AND IT'S DEMOCRACY, YOU WOULD HAVE NOT WANT SOMEONE TO TAKE ALL FROM WINNER AND GIVE IT THE WINNER....
PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE THIS COUNTRY LOOK BAD....TRUE IDEALS....
I HATE BEING WHITE RIGHT ABOUT NOW..IT IS SO EMBARASSING HEARING WHITE PEOPLE FREELY UPHOLDS RACISM....
TO TOP IT OFF, WHITES ARE ALWAYS TELLING BLACKS TO "GET OVER RACISIM" HOW CAN THEY WHEN THE WORLD HAS CLEARLY NOW SEEN THE OLD AMERICAN WAYS IS STILL ALIVE AND KICKING.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:07 PM

HILLERY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT THEN WHAT IS ALLREADY BEING SAID AMONG ALL THE PEOPLE.THESE ARE THE FACTS, AND OBAMA IS IN MORE DANGER THEN HILLERY,UNFORTINTLY BECAUSE OF RACE.BUT BESIDES ALL THAT.THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF ALL THE STATES VOTED THE SAME DAY. EVERY STATE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE. EVERY STATE COUNTS!IT HAS COST MILLION'S THAT COULD GO TOWARDS THE HUNGRY OR THE AMPUTIES FROM THE WAR.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:07 PM

Desperado, that is what she is!
Hillary go to Las Vegas and go squander the rest of your money in a casino and send Quick Willy to the the Chicken Ranch,,, watch the election on TV your just a desperado now! you have dug yourself a hole that you cant get out of shut your big mouth,,,,
nobody i know would cast a vote for you and neither would I

Posted by: Tommy j | May 25, 2008 7:07 PM

Me like Hilly! She funny ha ha! She tell good story about sniper shoot her. Shoot Chelsea. Funny funny Hilly! She tell funny story about Bobby Kennedy and say Obama's fault. She trick good! Ha ha! She even funnier than George Bushie!

Posted by: David Miner | May 25, 2008 7:07 PM

Another Clinton distraction!!

She ran on the arguement that she is more experienced.. Her gaffes proves that neither she is not experienced nor is she qualified to be President !!

One good reason not to have another Clinton in the White House is to ensure that these Clinton distractions are not in the White House and dont consume Tax Payers money. We dont want another Clinton presidency!!!

We need to focus our politicians on the issues that are important to the country

Posted by: Asian | May 25, 2008 7:08 PM

This has been my message, too. Just unbelievable that the Dems would start the primary season 15 months ago with more talent than you could shake a stick at, and yet, here they are six months away from defeat.

By the way, for you kids who aren't journalism students, you need to learn what role the media plays in blogs like this one. Zach knew that his headline would continue to float to the top of the search engines. His story is not much different than anyone else's which is that the media today is having to back peddle a bit on the Argus Leader story. The difference is Zach's clever headline, which is a bit more thought provoking than other outlets talking about Mrs. Clinton defending herself. To say that she "stokes the flap" is a bit more - how can I say - ROBUST. The more hits on the blog, the more relevance for the story. Just thought you'd like to know how you're being played.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 7:08 PM

"never never ever Hussein, if not Hillary then vote McCain.

The new white peoples mantra.

Posted by: hank | May 25, 2008 6:51 PM"

Are you one of those paid McCain bloggers the news reported on, or are you just that ignorant.

The name Hussein bothers you so bad, it's funny, the name Hussein didn't bother the Bushs' in the 80s and early 90s when the two families were good friends! The name bin Laden still to this day doesn't bother the Bushs.

If you don't want to vote for Barack, that's fine, but smearing his name and faith is truly unpatriotic.

Posted by: Tired of being a Divided country | May 25, 2008 7:09 PM

Bill Clinton makes his "Jesse Jackson" comment and that's Obama's fault? Hillary Clinton makes her "assassination" comment and that's Obama's fault? So all of Obama's gaffes are Obama's responsibility and all of Hillary's gaffes are also Obama's responsibility. Am I missing something? We're electing a President, not the victim-in-chief.

Posted by: godblessusa | May 25, 2008 7:09 PM

And Mr. Miner, your comments should be investigated by authorities. Just because it's the internet doesn't give you a pass to be an idiot.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 7:10 PM

Iam a strong union man and I can tell you that most of the union men & woman dont want obama,dont belive the UA people that is theyre idea not the menberships, most of us will vote (gulp) Rep.Boy thats hurts to say that!I thank maybe they need to talk to the workingclass, not the ones that set behind a desk.

Posted by: Butch | May 25, 2008 7:10 PM

Please stop racist to Hillary! But Obama do. Hillary is world's best president in the United State! I voted for her. Obama is not good! I heard people said Obama is same as Bush. Wow! If Obama win, many people will protest against Obama. Serious. US only allow white president only. Black president is illegal alien. I warning all to my friends to know. Don't ruin our country!

Posted by: Guest86 | May 25, 2008 7:10 PM


Gee - you forgot to mention that when Axelrod lied on George Stephanopoulos show today and said they didn't stir the pot - George continuted to point out at least four times the memo the Obama campaign sent out to media outlets regarding supid Olberman's junk mock reports.

Obama's campaign deliberately talks out of both sides of it's mouth.

In other word - THEY LIE without blinking an eye, without missing a beat, without thinking twice about it. It comes so easy.

Axelrod is a Rove - that's why he was on opposite Karl Rove himself on the show. Axelrod is a snakey guy and liar. And he's obama's marketer. Doesn't that say EVERYTHING. If Axelrod gets anywhere near the White House this country is in REAL trouble.

Obama and Axelrod will make Rove and George look like nice guys.

Well - Obama is a boot kissing puppet of the DC White Haired Troll Boys Club. They set this all up for him. From "appointments" to committees he hasn't done ONE THING on, to giving him Daschel's entire DC office staff, to using patsy Howard Dum Dum Dean to create the rules changes, to the Super Tuesday ambush.

The Democrats have lost my respect forever.

They have taken a woman and beat and raped her in the streets of America. To posit their totally inexperienced, done nothing black puppet. Why? First - he'll be their yes man - because he hasn't got a freaking CLUE. Second - he will ensure for eternity the black voters to the Democratic party. Third - Tom Delay Dashel is drooling to have power back. Watch what he gets given to him. All of them. Dodd, Richardson, Bill Bradley. They are the boots. Obama's got just the lips to kiss em all. He has no FREAKING CHOICE. He needs them like BAD.

They know it. They knew Hillary would not be saying yes to everything.

I'm voting for one of two people. They think their "FEAR" tactics are going to work. They're wrong.

John McCain doesn't scare me half as much as this puppet idiot know nothing.

Hillary or John.

That's ttotally that. They can BELIEVE it. Obama will not be getting Hillary's supporters. WE DON'T LIKE HIM. GET IT.

50% DOES NOT AND NEVER WILL = 100%

At least GW was a governor for six years.

Michelle Obama said they were going broke paying for his daughters ballet lessons. Isn't that sad? And scary.

Obama is a house of cards.

It will be fun to watch.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:11 PM

New Dictionary Entry:

HILLARY Verb. 1. To compete until the contestant self-immolates or implodes.

2. In a competition, to run amok or go berserk.

Usage: "The West Virginia girl in the Miss America contest finished dead last in the swimsuit competition and then hillaried, biting and scratching other contestants."

Posted by: goat1 | May 25, 2008 7:11 PM

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1976/hillaryassassinuo8.jpg

Man, Hillary just keeps on spitting out the gaffes.

Posted by: Santiago Matamoros | May 25, 2008 7:11 PM

The last I knew RFK was assassinated while running for President,so what Hillary said was actually a fact. Why don't all of you idiots that think this empty suit can get elected president in this country, get off of her back. Instead of worrying about her,you better start trying to figure out your going to win enough states to even get this joker elected.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 7:11 PM

hillary is degenerating into dick nixon, after the '60 and'62 defeats...i expect her to have a sweat-laden, paranoic-looking "you won't have hillary clinton to kick around any more" speach any day now...

Posted by: peace by the ocean | May 25, 2008 7:11 PM

"Hillary Supporters stand strong!

Vote for McCain in 2008! Vote for Clinton in 2012."

Oh yeah, smart advice. And when McCain overturns Roe v. Wade and ALL women lose their right to choose, that blood will be on every Hillary supporters hands!!!

Posted by: I hope HRC supporters are smarter than this crap | May 25, 2008 7:12 PM

Folks, Hillary's plane is out of control and is headed for a grandiose crash landing. Here we have another leader placing the blame on someone else for her mistakes. I don't know about you but this sounds like another Bush to me.

Posted by: randy | May 25, 2008 7:12 PM

Why does this seem wrong? Its not important. Important is how are you going to fix things in our country...how are you going to maintain leadership with honor and honesty. Sex is a non issue, race is a non issue, the only issue is the best candidate.

Posted by: kathleen | May 25, 2008 7:12 PM

It seems to me that the only platform Hillary is pushing is 'I am woman, hear me roar' with this idea that she must keep running because the women want her. I've kept my own little unofficial score of blog comments from women, and it looks like the majority of women are supporting Obama, heh heh...sooo, apparently she roars so loud that she must cover her ears to block the reality that most women are smarter than she thinks!

Hillary, you're running out of excuses...

Posted by: michael | May 25, 2008 7:13 PM

Obama's campaign was a key part of the media firestorm to denounce Clinton. Watch the video, listen to the Argus Leader editors in attendance, and Bobby Kennedy's kid's assessment and it is obvious that the entire flap is an Obama campaign and media event. Voters, however, aren't fooled. And, the majority of voters will continue to vote for Hillary rather than risk a disastrous Obama Presidency that places everyone at risk. Obama isn't even candidate material for VP.

Posted by: ObamaHasLost | May 25, 2008 7:14 PM

Hillary still has supporters? How?!

Posted by: JZ | May 25, 2008 7:14 PM

Hillary WITHDRAW! Redeem yourself by apologizing-no excuses, reasons or rationalizations.

I call on Senators Boxer and Feinstein to support Obama. Diane, remember George Moscone!

Posted by: Carhy from CA | May 25, 2008 7:14 PM

McAuliffe is a jerk!

I think that Hillary's campaign manager, strategists, and everyone else in between, are the very people who are responsible for the disgustingly negative campaign that Hillary has run!

I cannot fathom why they want to keep her going on with this race, except of course, that they have some frightening and scary shenanigans up their sleeve!

Posted by: Ilona Proud Canadian | May 25, 2008 7:15 PM

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman- Bill Clinton. He takes it back- It depends on what you definition of is is.
"The only reason he has made it as far as he has is because he is black"- Gerldine Ferraro- She takes it back- I am not a racist these are facts
"Remember what happened to Bobby Kennedy"- Hilary Clinton. I was quoting history
Does anyone begin to see a pattern here.

Posted by: truth is better than fiction | May 25, 2008 7:15 PM

Samatha Power was right all along.

Hillary Clinton, in one word, "monster"

Posted by: Richardson | May 25, 2008 7:16 PM

TEN REASONS WHY
HILLARY WILL WIN
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION

10. Her husband re-defined sex ("I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman"), inaugurating a fad for oral sex among America's middle school kids.

9. She looks like a goldfinch in her yellow and black pants suit.

8. Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, the RNC, and myriad other right-wing, goose-stepping, flag lapel-pin wearing neo-conservatives are working hard for her.

7. When she raises her voice, it is so soothing.

6. She proposes serious long-term solutions for the nation's problems, like suspending the gas tax this summer.

5. When she laughs, it is so sincere.

4. She doesn't associate with lobbyists.

3. She isn't a Washington in-sider.

2. She is the personification of truthfulness, never embellishing a story to make herself look good...

(gag - gag... barf - barf... I can't go on... can somebody finish?)

Posted by: goat1 | May 25, 2008 7:16 PM

HRC is a bigger killer than OJS.
If superdelegates can not see this, they do not deserve to be superdelegates.

Posted by: superduper | May 25, 2008 7:17 PM

As a clever lawyer she should file a class suit against everybodyandtherest for being victimized.

Posted by: victimsbest | May 25, 2008 7:17 PM

I do believe that if HRC had "owned" her comments about RFK's assassination, took responsibility for them, and genuinely apologized to Obama, the Kennedys, and the public, perhaps she would be viewed differently today. Her 'NON- APOLOGY aplogy' is perhaps worse for her than her association of RFKs assassination and the underlying 'code' which could be inferred by some of her supporters as meaning "if I had 'NO OPPONENT', I would WIN and be your POTUS". I truly do NOT believe that those male supporters in WV and KY would have voted for her in the GE, but rather look at this primary along the same lines as Rush LIMPBAGG and his inciting chaos. But if HRC does NOT have the capacity to take responsibility for statements, that certainly concerns me if she were to become POTUS. This shows a lack of character that is frightening to think of in a President! I also believe that if her friends [in particular Diane Feinstein] and her family truly loved her, they would have an INTERVENTION on her behalf and intercede with a good psychiatrist to get her the help she so obviously needs at this time in her life!


When Obama made a statement in PA but did not PHRASE his words well and spoke of understanding how people could become "bitter and cling to their religion, guns, etc", the public and MSM were 'outraged' and continued to promote that story for months DESPITE the fact that he 'OWNED' his statement, apologized for it and explained that he should have 'phrased' it in a better context. [His statement had NO UNDERLYING MEANING!} But did this make a difference to the MSM or the public? NO! So why now, after so 'many vile and hateful remarks' by both clintons should the public or the MSM just IGNORE HRCs statement and let it die where it stands?

Posted by: MadasHell in Alex., VA | May 25, 2008 7:18 PM

when one stipulates that Oberman rants are rational, one has to wonder just what planet all of the above reside on. Clinton made a time-line remark, that's it, nothing further to discuss according to Bobby Kennedy Jr, the only one who really has the right to make a remark. Obama, let's bring everyone together man, made a cheap shot out of nothing and Oberman just made another crappy show out of nothing, no surprise there. Who is Oberman anyways?? He was a lousy sportcaster and now pretends he actually has something that a reasonable person would want to hear. What has he ever done other than wear lots of make up and I mean lots of make up, and pretend to report news. He insults and promotes hatred for ratings, what a guy. MSNBC apparently is proud and pays him well....do you think something good could have actually been accomplished with those funds. So worried about O'Reilly and FOX you had to scrap the bottom of something to find this guy....a really, really lot of makeup. Hey Keith, one word, collegan. Your thin lips give you away. I think this is the 1,084th day the you have wore the same shade of lipstick..end your show with that...
Democrats eating democrats, it's fun to watch just how terrible they can be to each other....

Posted by: bookum | May 25, 2008 7:18 PM

HRC supporters are smarter than this crap...we are, but you don't play fair. I laugh, Obama, new kid on the block, inexperienced, etc. What a joke.

If you can't dazzle them with brillance,
baffle them with bull____!

Posted by: jan | May 25, 2008 7:18 PM

She continues to stay in the race so she can quietly repay herself what she has loaned her campaign without it appearing that she is now strictly in it for the money

Posted by: truth is better than fiction | May 25, 2008 7:18 PM

Jack Straw | May 25, 2008 7:05 PM

Hey Jack my name is Barrie -- quit F***ing around with my name and calling the candidate and soon to be President 'Barry' when you really mean Barack --- Jack your name is "Jack Of* & Assh***e!

Posted by: Barrie | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

What's clear is that Hillary's most devoted will follow her "irregardless" of logic or sanity. She may demonstrate her power by swinging enough of her people away from voting for the Democratic candidate to prevent his election, but if she does her political career as a Democrat should be finished. If she damages the Party in this election, the Party should return the favor and move to terminate any backing of her for any position.

Posted by: Javalation | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

OK......let's read it again.........take the time to consider what it means:

HIS #3 ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Posted by: Randy | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

so much fear and hate; clearly the right wing has accomplished its primary goal over the past twenty-five years. when you carry fear and hate inside yourselves, you only harm yourself, especially if you allow someone else's toxic thinking to infect you. the only response I can feel for the majority of comments posted in this and other blogs is compassion and pity. don't you think perhaps it is time to try something different?

Posted by: perman | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

The toaster toasted herself again if u know what I mean. The toast will still finish the primaries and after that she will go away and slam her husband in the mouth and call him the A-word. The toast will then decay and be discarded.

Posted by: jethro mayham | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

So John in regards to the 3# law-then the Clintons should be charged for illegal campaigning and Bill should be charged with sexual assaults? Everyone should follow the rules!

Obama looks like a saint compared to what the Clintons have done in the past 18 years-so don't even through this out on the plate-took a lot of nerve to do so!

Posted by: Sophia Beck | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

As a clever lawyer she should file a class suit against everybodyandtherest for being victimized.

Posted by: victimsbest | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

Let me explain why I may vote for McCain.
Because you Obama supporters frighten me. I do not even have an opportunity to evaluate the man because his campaign turns me off so completely. I am skeptical of your fanaticism and the frenzy his campaign has stirred. I saw this same strategy in the last 2 elections, using "religion" and "morality" and blind support of a person over support of social policy. I do not like the results. History has a lot on record of what happens when countries use rabid ideologies and personality instead of reason and logic. I will vote for McCain in an attempt to keep this dangerous dysfunction out of government. At least I will know that, should McCain be unwise, there will be a Hillary in the Senate who will continue to advocate for us and an Obama, who just might take a stand and speak up if he is not bored because he did not get to be president. That's why. And it will be YOUR fault.

Posted by: nana4 | May 25, 2008 7:19 PM

I love Barak Obama and I love Hillary Clinton. Both would have made excellent Commander and Chiefs. I find it sad that Democrats are finding so much vitriol and anger for Senator and President Clinton who a year ago were lauded as two of the most important democrats in government. Obama won! I'm ecstatic and ready for all the change I know he can deliver. I would be even happier to have Senator Clinton on the ticket. All the talk of what a bitter campaign this has been is nonsense. Don't we remember the last presidential election? Support of one candidate does not go hand in hand with blind hatred for the other. And that goes for both camps. Don't you dare vote for a Republican.

Posted by: N. Allbee | May 25, 2008 7:20 PM

Clinton's comments are irresponsible and insane. She gives the the green light to someone to assassinate Obama.She made it clear before that Lyndon B. Johnson was her hero. When Johnson was vice-president and then president, four high-profiled assassinations took place(John Kennedy, Malcolm X, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King). When his despicable administration was over, these assassinations were also stopped.

Posted by: Bob John | May 25, 2008 7:21 PM

Back to McCain. He is the only candidate that supports NAFTA. Google NAFTA Superhighway or North American Union. He supports outsourcing military equipment contracts. He supports continuing the war in Iraq, but is against supporting our troops' benefits. Wants to give them incentives to stay in by not giving them the benefits they deserve after one tour if they choose to get out then. Stop "stop loss."

Posted by: connect the dots | May 25, 2008 7:21 PM

I am not an American citizen (and not supposed to interfere), but I cannot resist putting in my two cents.

Someone explain to me, how is, someone who cannot take responsibility of her actions, electable to the post of the Commander In Chief of one of world's most powerful nations?

Posted by: Foriegner | May 25, 2008 7:21 PM

So much emotion between these two groups. The real news this weekend is that John McCain is getting close to picking a VP. If it should turn out to Romney or Powell, Democrats can stop trawling for money -- because it will be over!

To the person who said McCain would overturn Roe v. Wade, don't you ever believe it. He's more moderate than the Republicans would like. If we get his head on straight about the environment and the way, he's the better choice between him and Obama.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

Out of context? Not according to her very own succinct words.

I truly can't believe this bunch. Just when they've hit a new low there's an additional sub basement of crap to wade through.

And it is telling that by these remarks this campaign must think the American public dumber than crap.

If I was part of her constituency then I'd certainly begin to seriously think otherwise.

I know that politics makes for strange bedfellows and that anything is possible with a VP slot. It's happened in the past and occurred recently. However, by this time I'd genuinely surprised if she got more then a 60 second concession speech.

And I supported her...till this obvious rfk matter.

To bring her into the cabinet would be like inviting Brutus over for a sandwich and game of croquet.

But...then anythings possible in politics.

Am beginning to understand why long time supporters walked from her.

Posted by: jatox | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

Republicans will not find redemption at any level. GOP is now the party of extremists gathered around abusive and foul radio shows with a flag in one hand and a cross in another busy spewing school yard taunts. The big wigs have fled the GOP for greener pastures in the global economy. GOP has presided over the greatest destruction of American wealth that is only beginning to unfold. GOP, among other blunders failed to provide monitoring in an expansion phase of a financial market and nearly brought ruin to the Wall Street. This is an unimaginative party of feudals unfit to advance America in a competitive global economy.

Posted by: Julian | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

I think the Obama camp is making such a fuss over this because "assassination imagery" plays into the latter-day Martin Luther King persona that Obama has been trying to take on for himself.

Posted by: prettierthanyou | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

The dems have managed to self destruct and McCain is ready to give us newer and better versions of the S&L scandal, the mortgage melt-down, the home equity anihilation, the shrinking dollar, the outsourcing of the living wage jobs, Haliburton, Iraq, and any other way they can find to enrich the few at the expense of the many. The middle class members who have bought into the Republican scare words: liberal, socialist, unpatriotic, gay rights, gun control, have been trading in their jobs for representation by people who say what they want to hear and then stab them in the back on the way to the bank.
With four more years of Rebublican control we can probably figure on ten dollar gas, homes with the equity of a cardboard box, the dollar worth pennies, and millions of new eight dollar an hour jobs, with health care that costs a fortune and delivers less. God bless us!

Posted by: we are screwed | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

The flood of toxic venom being spewed by many of Clinton's (apparently semi-illiterate) apologists over this mess is even more revealing and disturbing than her original misleading and (depending on your interpretation) either ill-considered or depraved comment, or her smug self-righteous non-apology for it.

A truly alarming percentage of her supporters now seem so besotted by their indignation over her supposed 'mistreatment' by those who question her God-given right to rule that they are entirely oblivious to how bitter, deranged, and delusional their public utterances have become.

Is this really the legacy she wants or deserves? And if not, how can she possibly escape it? These are questions Clinton needs to consider carefully but expeditiously, before an appalled party unceremoniously shuts her amok campaign down, and the noisome stains befouling the tattered remains of her reputation become impossible to remove...

Posted by: MDL | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

There are a number of comments here that include insinuations or statements that Barack Obama should be assassinated in posts by

The Real Truth
Hill&Bill
BHO is a criminal
His time is about up!

I hope this is just ignorant petulance, but whether meant or not, this sort of incendiary bile has got no place in any sort of political conversation.

If you want to complain about these comments, you can go to a link at the bottom of the article that allows you to email the site about offensive comments. It's a lousy mechanism for complaints, but it's better than nothing.

Posted by: aed20 | May 25, 2008 7:22 PM

Call me crazy, but I am no match for the want to-be empress from "NY State".
Remorse? Where? Not a chance! The scary part is the setting she chose for her apology -- that wasn't. I think the message in that "apology" was a green light to take action, whatever that maybe. What is an interview in a salad dressing aisle with a green light in the rear exit? You tell me.

Paranoid, of course, I am paranoid. That is the point! Decapitation of leaderships has been a common trend in resent history. So the wise owl shall always be on the watch.

I am surprised that no one saw that coming. Come on good people of 'US from All, this has always been on her agenda all along. Plan B, the call to arm was already invoked in eve of spring this year.

And, just because we are so occupied with lots of stuff and only assimilate what is obviously attainable does not give politicians the right to take advantage of the situation. Politicians are meant to strengthen us, not exploit our weakness. Obviously, mongers like the want-to -be empress would rather incite us with false claims on capacity and knowledge or in some cases, exploit our fear and instigate us by infusing in us some motives. Where is the respect for the people? We deserve some respect. We know how tough it is out there on the battle fields, on the job front, at the school preps, on the game fields, on the farm in the factory and even on the campaign trail. No one is whining.

Election campaign is simple. Tell us what your intentions are, we'll judge you by your product. Not by how good you are at schaden freude. No! This primary is not about ontology of the gender or veneer, for Christ's sake. Good God... allow me to sigh.

Yes, we get it. This primary election isn't some beauty contest. It is about depth. This is about finding the one who will bring about causal effect on the life of a people, a country, and set the pulse of time of many worlds as one.

All that entrusted to a cold calculating heartless beauty queen want-to-be empress?
You decide!

It is simple. I'll vote for someone who respects and reflects my ideals. I reserve that option to choose, obviously, with some degrees of deviation either right or left from the mean. Herewith my 2cents for what's worth.


Posted by: Wale | May 25, 2008 7:23 PM

Well "RANDY" IF YOUR ARTICLE IS TRUE, THE CLINTONS SHOULD NOT BE IN POLITICS..THEY HAVE A LOT OF BAD ASSOCIATES....

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:23 PM

This is the kind of comment that really scares me (yes, believe it or not--you can look back here in the comments and find this statement):
----------------------------------------------
"Suppose an Iranian freedom fighter actually unthinkably assassinated Obama (as happened to RFK), would we still be for engaging those noble Iranians in unconditional negotiations?

It's something to think about! No?"
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It's easy to dismiss such talk as miscellaneous meanderings of insignificant a--holes. But in fact, this kind of stuff is boiling up in in a lot of places in this campaigne (witness the elction resuls in WV, Kentucky and other border states of the Old South)that proves that racism in all its ugly forms is still alive and well in the good old USA--it's far more pervasive the even I realized--and that is very troubling.

This is the kind of disinformation that the Soviet communists, KKK die-hards, neo-Nazis, and other extremists elements have used historically to manipulate and poison the political debate in our society.

For the record, RFK, according to the news accounts I read, and confirmed by the information I researched, was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan. He is not Iranian--he's a Palestinean. AND he is from a Christian--not Muslim--family.


Posted by: Joe Vorgetts | May 25, 2008 7:23 PM

If Obama is assassinated I'll want absolute proof that Hillary Clinton was nowhere near the scene and had never met anyone who had ever met the sniper (especially if from Bosnia). No wonder she chose to play the role of the Soprano's in her spoof video. She's a natural mobster, threatening Obama with being whacked.

Posted by: Martin (England) | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM

Who cares if Hillary wins the nomination or not. She and Bill have destroyed themselves in this campaign. The Democratic Party will soon be free of both of these two fools.

Here is Hillary who stayed in a loveless marriage in order to court and gain power and it has all exploded in her face. Whatever happens, she will have set back the feminist agenda because it was an agenda she did not believe in but only used for her own convenience. Most women have begun to understand that.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Posted by: svbreeder | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM

If that were the case, she could have found several other examples that didn't involve the assassination one's opponent.


"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context," Clinton campaign chairman Terence R. McAuliffe said on "Fox News Sunday." "She was making a point merely about the time line."

Posted by: Lynne | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM

It would be rather unfortunate if someone put a bullet right between Hitlery-Rotten Clintoon's eyes. A blissful, wonderful dream, but unfortunate.

Posted by: Vince Foster | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM

Hillary seems to imagine a lot of things, from Vast Right Wing Conspiracies, to candidate assassinations, to sniper fire. I hope if she becomes President, there are some checks and balances over her pressing the buttons controlling our nuclear arsenal.

I also don't see how she can say her comments have nothing to do with Obama. If she is saying there is a possibility of a candidate getting assassinated, and there are only two candidates left...

Posted by: Bluebue | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM

When did it become acceptable for a Muslim to become president?

What's wrong with you people.

Jeremiah "GD America" Wright?

Michelle "I'm Proud of America for the first time" Obama

The Weather "I wish we could have caused more damage (circa NY Times on 9/11/01)" Underground

Louis "White folks are the devil" Farrahkan

Attending the Million Man March? A racist event sponsored by Farrakhan for the purpose of further isolating the black man from the rest of society?

Tony "I scratch your back you scratch mine" Rezko

The questionable associations go on and on.

He hates America and especially the working class on which America was built. He told us that we "cling to guns and religion" because were too dumb to know any better.

Worst thing he said it to San Francisco elites in a closed-door meeting where he thought his words would never be repeated.

I wonder what else he says about good, honest, hard-working americans and our country?

I wonder about the conversations he's had with the racist Jeremiah Wright. Has anyone done their research on the radical teachings of his church? You'd be disturbed at their seperatist mantra.

If Hillary isn't on the ballot in November, please vote McCain. Do it because America and its freedoms are at stake!

Posted by: I Love my country. Do you? | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM

The point can be applied to many.......

"given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof"

Posted by: Randy | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

To me, this is even lower. To make this idiotic statement and now to blame the other campaign? She needs to go. Seriously.

Posted by: Patrick | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

This comment for me goes so far out of line that it's disgusting. Hillary is sick: she's clearly suffering from the temptation of power so strongly she has become delusional and wicked. Or is it, as the saying goes, that character isn't built, it's revealed.

I would never vote for her. But much more importantly, Senator Obama, I will not vote for you if she's the VP on your ticket. Please do not make that mistake.

Posted by: anyonebuthillaryinca | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

Clinton is beyond vile.

Please contact Howard Dean (deanh@dnc.org) and Nancy Pelosi (http://speaker.house.gov/) to let them know how you feel. You can also go to this website and lobby the Uncommitted Superdelegates in each state (https://www.lobbydelegates.com/)

Please take action.

Posted by: Woman for Obama | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

To Foriegner
We elected George Bush not once but twice. It appears the reason most of the world hates the US leaders but loves Americans is because with all the best of intentions we simply continue to act like high school students electing the most popular not the most capable.
Hopefully this election will change that.

Posted by: truth is better than fiction | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM


Hillary was talking about her husband and other elections that went into and past June. Bobby Kennedy was assasinated in June - big freaking deal.

And we don't need Obama "saying it's ok". Frick him. Who does he think he is? I'll tell you who he is. He is the YES man for the White DC Establishment. He is NOTHING DIFFERENT. HE IS A TOTAL POLITICAN. KISSING THE BOOTS OF THE BIG BOYS WHO GOT HIM THIS FAR.

Obama is BEHOLDEN. He'll be a slave to the Boys Club.

Watch it happen. Watch him give out gifts to the ambushing Rovian Democrats who took their dirty back room thug politics right out in broad daylight and kicked and beat up Hillary Clinton.

They are DESPICABLE. Tom Delay Daschel. Nancy Delay Pelosi.

Chrisopeher Delay Dodd. Patrick Delay Leahy. John Delay Kerry.

THUGS

BACK ROOM HIJACKNG OF THIS DEMOCRACY - THIS PROCESS

IT'S CRIMINAL

I WILL NEVER IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A DEMOCRAT UNTIL THEY'RE ALL GONE FROM POLITICS

ROVIAN DEMOCRATS

WOW

PLAIN VIEW HIJACKING THEIR OWN BEST CANDIDATE

SICK AND SHAMEFUL

SHE OWES THEM NOTHING

NOTHING AT ALL - AND THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL GET


TWO YEARS OF A LAME McCAIN - FINE WITH ME OVER A PUPPET FOR THE ROVIAN DEMOCRATS


Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

I thank you people are carrying on to much about her comment about RFK I dont belive that you can fall for all that crap that the news is putting out,she is just talking about the time frame in Nov.Pull youre head out of butt,if you want to vote for obama then vote for him,but then dont come crying when things go bad.!

Posted by: Richard | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

THE FIRST CHANGE THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, SUCH AS VOTING ON ONE DAY ONLY, ALL THE STATES, SO THIS DOESN'T DRAG ON.ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND IT SHOULD BE THE PEOPLES VOTE THAT COUNTS, NOT THE DELEGATES. ALL THREE POLATIONS INCLUDING THERE SPOUSES HAVE MADE STUPID COMMENTS.HILLARY DIDN'T SAY ANTHING DIFFERENT THEN WHAT IS ALLREADY BEING TALKED ABOUT IN ALL THE COMMUNITIES.THIS HAS COST TO MUCH MONEY.CHANGE AMERICA!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

What is REALLY funny are the Clinton supporters that say they are going to vote for McCain because OBAMA is divisive? I have to admit, Hillary is really good at doing something and then blaming it on the other side.

Posted by: phorse | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM


Hard to believe. Hillary is blaming BO for HER wierd. dark thoughts.
Can't wait for her to leave the scene. Hope it's sooner rather
than later.
SUPERS, lets go. What are you waiting for??

PJR

Posted by: Paola | May 25, 2008 7:27 PM

I believe it is absolutely essential for the world that Hillary Clinton never be president of the United States; however, I don't believe she made her remarks with evil intentions. Rather, it was another example of her very poor judgement.

In my view, the telling aspect of the video is her delusion (enough to scare anyone from voting for her) and her spin.

She is in complete,utter and unbelievable denial about her loss. She has lost touch with reality.

Her remarks were just one more spin. She left out the length of the referenced campaigns and forgot to mention that those races had not been lost. The situations are not comparable: she has been the loser in this race over a much longer period, her finances are running on empty, and she, unlike RFK or BC, is tearing the party apart with divisiveness.

Hillary Clinton, let me make it clear for you. The people want you out of the race, because you have lost. Thy don't want you for president, simple as that.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 7:27 PM

Was it offensive? I don't think offensive is the right word. I think the comment reflects accurately Mrs. Clinton's hopes and dreams, a rare display of honesty on her part. But knowing her thinking, Barack Obama cannot and must not choose her as his running mate. Putting a person so desperate to be president in a position where she is one heartbeat away from achieving her ambition is an invitation to disaster. Obama and his campaign have been more than gracious, but with friends like her he doesn't need enemies.

Posted by: Joan Berkowitz | May 25, 2008 7:27 PM

(It would be rather unfortunate if someone put a bullet right between Hitlery-Rotten Clintoon's eyes. A blissful, wonderful dream, but unfortunate.

Posted by: Vince Foster | May 25, 2008 7:25 PM )

Does this post conform to WP posting standards?

Posted by: prettierthanyou | May 25, 2008 7:28 PM

Whatever respect I had for Senator Clinton has long ago eroded and now has completely evaporated.

This woman has no class.

She reminds me of several of the sneaky-snake, back-stabbing, unethical woman that I've met in corporate land. Fortunately, these women eventually get what they deserve. They get DUMPED.

As a 53 year old white woman, I am Hillary's target audience, and I would never vote for her now, given all the nastiness and deceitfulness of her campaign from her mouth and her surrogates mouths.

.... The Universe works in wonderous ways and we can all rest assured that Senator Clinton is now reaping some of what she has sown. She will continue to reap and she won't like it.

Who wants someone for President who is incapable of admitting a mistake (oh, that's right, we have one in office now who got there by thievery and cheating!)

I just hope that all the kids and grandkids of the women who are irrationally standing by their woman have the tenacity to speak the truth to their mothers and grandmothers and help bring them around to supporting our great candidate, Barack Obama.

Hillary, GROW UP and stop whining. You ran a crummy campaign and you LOST!! Get over it.

Posted by: PittyPat | May 25, 2008 7:28 PM

for goat1's top ten list

1. Ready on Day 1!

Posted by: jethro mayham | May 25, 2008 7:28 PM

As a Clinton supporter I would never want harm on anyone and I take her at her word that she doesn't either. But I'm appalled at the number of comments wishing harm and worst on Obama. I hope they are not Clinton supporters because nobody should want the likes of you behind them. You should be ashamed so many of you, yes even Obama supports, sound immature and tasteless with your comments.

Posted by: keep the peace | May 25, 2008 7:28 PM

Every time an Obama supporter calls a Clinton supporter "illiterate" (or uneducated, poor etc), a vote is lost for your candidate. At some point, you have to stop underestimating what you are costing your candidate. He's out on the trail trying to get elected, but his supporters who have shown nothing but arrogance to every other candidate in the race, ruin it for him as he goes.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 7:29 PM

I find it most intersting that while the comment was made by Clinton, Obama himself later said, "I don't think that Senator Clinton intended anything by it," and that "we should put it behind us."

But this article, appearently seeks to divide the Democratic voters (which is fine by me, I am Republican), but the country needs healing and this type of article ulimately hurts the country, and not just the candidates of the losing party.

It is a shame that your "journalism" focuses on division.

Posted by: Shameful Article | May 25, 2008 7:29 PM

I dont know how Hillary can expect Dems to Vote for her. When she goes on FOX news . . . Fox news wants to insure the people have no voice.

Posted by: Disaponted | May 25, 2008 7:29 PM

We will never know what was in her mind when she spoke those words, but one thing we know is that what she said was not well thought through and not very sensitive. What makes this all the more ironic is that she and her camp tout her as being far more experienced in world affairs than Obama. Well, maybe she does, but none of that experience included diplomacy. Also this was spoken by someone who says she is sensitive to every misogynist slight and innuendo.

Posted by: ChuckB | May 25, 2008 7:30 PM

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

It is amazing what disrespect you Obama supporters have for Hillary Clinton, the most powerful woman in America, who should be president. Why? Because she is prepared, visionary and smart. This is not a woman who just fell from the turnip truck.

JAZZIETTE:

I don't think Hillary Clinton is the most powerful woman in America. She is perhaps the most power-hungry woman in America, however. There is a difference!

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

She was a Watergate prosecutor and a powerful attorney--making by the way more money than Obama could dream of.

JAZZIETTE:

Now let's not exaggerate here. She sat on a Watergate Panel but was not a 'prosecutor' as you inacurrately wrote. And you ommitted the fact that she was fired from the panel by Jerry Zeifman (General Counsel and Chief of Staff for the House Judiciary Commitee) for LYING, something she has never been able to break the habit of.

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

As a journalist I can tell you that she is the smartest of the three candidates.

JAZZIETTE:

Oh really? Have you administered IQ tests to each of them? LOL

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

However, the spin doctors of the Obama campaign and the liberal media have waged war against Hillary. And don't think that nut Howard Dean likes the Clintons. It has been a well orchestrated campaign by the DNC.

JAZZIETTE:

I can't say I blame them. The Clintons have a way of steamrolling over everyone who gets in their way. I'm sure the DNC is just as tired of them as everyone else is. Howard Dean included!

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

Unfortunately, the Democratic Party is going to suffer in the end. Obama is not electable and will go the way of all other liberal candidates. Frankly, he is an arrogant and polished politician who has spouted change but has not changed anything in his political career.

JAZZIETTE:

The Democratic Party has been wounded by this campaign I will agree; however, as one of millions of Obama supporters I disagree with you on his electability. The odds that he will beat McCain in the GE are very big in lieu that if people don't vote FOR him they will vote AGAINST Bush aka McCain.

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

He has produced a race gulf in this country that is not going to heel for some time. And he will destroy the Democratic Party in the end.

JAZZITTE:

Again, I disagree. The Clinton campaign has played the race and gender card here. Not Obama. It is the Clintons who will destroy the Democratic Party because they don't like to play by the rules.

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

Has anyone seen the pools from Florida. Seventy percent of the Democrats are going to vote for McCain. That ought to shock superdelegates from their Obama coma. The only good news is that it will be Hillary's in four years after Obama's disasterous election.

JAZZIETTE:

I've seen the pools in Florida and they are very pretty! Ohhhh....you meant POLLS!!! Geeze and you're a journalist? I hope you use spell-check! LOL As for the SDs being shocked by the polls I don't think they pay much attention to them and as for Clinton having any viability in 4 years. Forget it! She'll be about as memorable as Gary Hart.

Too bad she has no class and doesn't know how to make a graceful exit like the great Senator John Edwards! Unfortunately she will be remembered now for her desperate whining and negativity rather than for the positive influence she had the incredible opportunity to have on this nation.

How sad!

~ Jazziette

Posted by: Jazziette Devereaux | May 25, 2008 7:30 PM

Posted by: Hillary Simply the Best
Please support Hillary at www.HillaryClinton.com.

No thank you, HSTB. The only thing I support about Hillary is that she go away..far, far away. She accuses Obama and the press for being ''sexist'' and in her piece in the NTDN this morning this is a quote from her:
'' I am running for all those women in their 90s who've told me they were born before women could vote, and they want to live to see a woman in the White House. For all the women who are energized for the first time, and voting for the first time. For the little girls - and little boys - whose parents lift them onto their shoulders at our rallies, and whisper in their ears, "See, you can be anything you want to be." As the first female candidate in this position, I believe I have a responsibility to finish this race.''

Now she is running for the women of America? Last week it was the ''poor white'' people. Hillary I am a woman and yoy do not speak for me. You are a disgrace to women all over this nation. Too bad some of those women whom you've managed to fool don't have a clue that there is only one woman that you are trying to advance: Hillary Clinton. How sad for you. I honestly believe that you wanted the Presidency so badly, that you are willing to destroy the Democratic and our chance to take back the White House. Stop the hate Hillary and you may be able to salvage some semblance of decency. God help you. And God bless America

Posted by: Holly | May 25, 2008 7:30 PM

There are some things I just cannot believe but when I see how many times Hillary Clinton has played the victim to sexism and media bias it's amazing.
Obama is the real victim here, because he is a half black man that has been defined as almost everything negative, because black men are soft on defense, unexpereinced, has someone else's funny sounding name and he's to smart to be black.

We know what the problem is and it's simply that Bill Clinton promised his wife she would be the first woman president, at any costs because he owes her big time, for putting up with all his crap when he was in Arkansas and the White House.

I been watching all this spin and the truth is that all of the Clinton's and their associates are liers and cheats, and we have to get rid of them before they destroy this country in thier quest for power and control.

Posted by: jimmie griffin | May 25, 2008 7:30 PM

Mr's Axelrod was quoted:

"There's an enormous amount of pride and investment in Senator Clinton among millions of women across this country,"

Perhaps he meant to include men as well.

Posted by: Jim Hillegass | May 25, 2008 7:31 PM

As the AP put it, Obama plays dirty politics but slaps on a mid-Western smile to mask it.

Obama has been doing this from the start - stoking the fires of controversy while pasting that phony holier-than-thou look on his face

The Obama camp was the ones who created the Ferraro "controversy" by taking an interview in a small local paper and calling around the media about it.

Their pattern is to pretend to take the high road, while fanning the flames behind the scenes.

Obama is dangerous because he plays dirty politics but pretends to be above it all - he has many people fooled, but not everyone

You have to be an idiot not to see his true colors

His followers are blind and irrational and are going to get this country in another 8 years of disaster by electing a Pres based on fanaticism.

Clinton is honest and direct, and Obama followers would rather live in irrational fantasy with a smiling snake.

Posted by: Alex | May 25, 2008 7:31 PM

OK - any one of y'all ought to be able to see the Democratic ticket needs to be in the trashcan....

Posted by: Kev | May 25, 2008 7:31 PM

It is absolutely absurd to believe Clinton's comments, when taken in full context, in anyway imply someone should harm Obama. Clearly, she was simply pointing out that for RFK to have been assassinated during a campaign speech in June that he was still bidding for the Democratic nomination. And Obama's camp is clearly getting as much political mileage out of this as possible. I certainly would have more respect for Obama if he had taken the high road in the beginning instead of helping to make something racist and sinister out of nothing. Folks, get the facts and think for yourselves.

Posted by: Rebecca | May 25, 2008 7:31 PM

I'm not american and don't live in the us either. However I'm kind of depressed given this thing going on is so inconceivable elsewhere. Rules, once agreed upon, must be respected and followed. We can't change rules in midgame no mater what the outcome is about. This is basic anywhere you go in the world. So, why is this campaign still going on? Why all this discussion on popular votes if the rules say only delegates count? Why the DNC guys don't step up and get this thing over? How can a person who doesn't care about rules be the president of the most powerful nation on earth?

Posted by: jefblack | May 25, 2008 7:32 PM

JFK, MLK, RFK, BHO, RIP.

Posted by: George | May 25, 2008 7:32 PM

To the person who urged calling the DNC, Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi, I second the motion. Tell them that Hillary Clinton has won the popular vote and it's time for the race to be over. Tell them that Obama supporters who have been so vicious to her now face D-Day of having her voters either write her in as Independent or vote for McCain. 18+ million people traveling to other destinations on the ballot ought to scare the crap out of somebody there at the DNC.

Posted by: Call the DNC | May 25, 2008 7:32 PM

When you start trying to remove a senator be careful Hillary has a laundry list of terrible relations that will soon land Hillary and Bill both in jail, also lets not forget McCain he has associations as well. Please get your information from other sources other than CNN,Fox MSNBC, Hillary neeeds a mental evaluation,I am all for having a women president but not Hillary, she is not the one, And if her supports want another 4 year of Bush associations which comes alone with the McCain than so be it. Perhaps the main issues are not important. War, health care, economy,employment,social liberties, civil rights,gas education. I dont know about you but we need to come together, the super delegates need to come together and put this to rest, before she destorys the party, United we stand devide we fall stick to the issues. All these other things will not help you at the gas station, if you loose your job, have love one in the war,health care for your family, education program for our children, wake up and smell the roses.

Posted by: Lynn | May 25, 2008 7:32 PM

No way Hillary can win the presidency. I just don't see Obama voters (me included) voting for her.
I am also now not seeing a clear path for Obama because of the same thing on the other side.
Democrats have shot themselves in the foot and are now rubbing salt in each others wounds.

Black, white, man, woman, we all lose if the GOP wins.

And for those of you who think that Hillary can somehow comeback in 2012.....are you serious, and can I have some of what you are smoking?

At least my taxes will be low, even though the world we know will be crumbling around us.

Posted by: Richard | May 25, 2008 7:32 PM

Clinton mentions the RFK assassination several times, seemingly as a reason to stay in, and she has the chuzpuh to blame Obama for her stupid statements?

For someone who is supposed to be the experienced vets, Clinton has run the worst campaign I've ever seen.

Posted by: ep thorn | May 25, 2008 7:33 PM

I've never seen three more mediocre and unqualified candidates in my life.

Posted by: DFC | May 25, 2008 7:33 PM

Title suggestion for HRC's autobiography -

"A Woman Scorned"

Posted by: GoAheadMakeMyDay | May 25, 2008 7:33 PM

Wow, so there excuse for Senator Clintons SHEER inhumanity and dark soul is that it is Senator Obama's fault. She truly needs help soon, I really fear she is on the brink of a breakdown and as a former supporter of hers I fear that it will be of monumental proportions. God willing she will get the medication and rest she rightly deserves.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:33 PM

If Obama wins the nomination... Hillary must be on the ticket.

"or else! get it..."

Posted by: Randy | May 25, 2008 7:33 PM

When Obama won South Carolina, Bill Clinton dismissed it as Jesse Jackson had won South Carolina meaning Obama won because he is black. After making such a racist remark, Bill told the press that it was Obama who played the race card on him. Now Hillary talks about assassination in June, and in the typical Clintonian way now she blames Obama for her statements.

I will be glad to see the Clintons exit the political scene. The Clintons are like the cancer that wont go away. We thought the Clinton's were history after the Monica scandal. Now they have surfaced again, this time double teaming to run this country amuck. What are the superdelegates waiting for?

Posted by: Kevin McNally | May 25, 2008 7:34 PM

The Hillary supported on this board amaze me. You would stay home or vote against your own interests because of some ignorant comments made on a message board by internet geeks...


Thats real sad...

Posted by: Wow | May 25, 2008 7:34 PM

Per the Houston Chronicle today:

"It's Official: Hillary Clinton Is Insane
Posted 5/23/2008 5:12 PM CDT

Write down the date, May 23, 2008-the day Hillary Clinton lost her mind. The pressure of the race and the thought of not getting the Democratic nomination has driven the poor woman stark, raving mad."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:34 PM

I think when she was talking about RFK, definately thinking the possibility that Obama could be assassinated. No other reason that RFK come about for the reason for staying in the race.

Posted by: humblesage | May 25, 2008 7:35 PM

Hillary now blame Obama for her "mistake" she take the americans as idiots. Hillary with all my respect step down and go home to take care of papi Clinton. You already demostrate not to have class to be president, you are not, Prof. Clinton. You are already part of the past American History.

Posted by: BG | May 25, 2008 7:35 PM

When will Hillary Clinton stop blaming anybody but herself for her failures ?

Posted by: Ron | May 25, 2008 7:35 PM

I am an Obama supporter and would vote for Hillary without hesitation in Nov. if she is the nominee. Why is the attitude of so many Clinton supporters,"we get our way or we're voting for McCain." Are you really willing to inflict the nation with four more years of Republican rule just to "stick it to Obama."

Posted by: godblessusa | May 25, 2008 7:35 PM

"We're beyond that issue now, so certainly we're not trying to stir the issue up," Axelrod said.
And what is the difference between this hood and Karl Rove? Partnering with the media, Axelrod and his minions certainly created a bonfire, smelling an opportunity, they thought, to finally oust Clinton from the campaign. Sorry, Axelrod, your guy is being beaten by McCain in today's Gallup Poll and Hillary is the tough cookie beating McCain. BTW, you media darlings, and you, disgraceful Washington Post, forgot to include RFK, Jr., statement made Friday, when you published all this garbage about Clinton's remarks. So, big shot news organizations that you are, here's the research you didn't do, the statement you would not print because it would have sucked the air right out of the fire you built:
May 23: Robert Kennedy Jr. issued the following statement this evening:
"It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband"s 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."
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Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:36 PM

I'm a lifelong democrat and I will never vote for BHO. His disgusting politics, sexism and race-baiting makes him a thoroughly un-electable canidate. I'm prepared to write-in Hilary come November if she's not the nominee.

The media is also a joke. It's not Hillary that's going to destroy the democratic party, it's Obama and his far left Marxist ideas and his willingness to say or do anything to undermine millions of voters that have been at the core of democratic party for decades.

Are you currently receifving "Replacement Therapy for your "deficientcy"?

Posted by: ricknhouston | May 25, 2008 7:36 PM

What a sad, racist country. I had hoped we were better than that.

Posted by: Judy | May 25, 2008 7:37 PM

There are a ton of trolls on here folks and they are trying to feed the fire with their racist comments and trying to get folks to focus on mccain coz he has no followers... ignore.. they are truly desperate and want to get on any wagon they can. I mean bush and mccain had to cancel one of his fundraisers in phoenix due to lack of ticket purchases for it.. HAHAHAH

Posted by: ismelltrolls | May 25, 2008 7:37 PM

Those who claim to be Clinton supporters for McCain, should go right ahead and vote for him.

I am tired of the crap spewed from this so-called group. It is more like the kid whose team is losing the ballgame catching his ball, and going home.

The coronation of Clinton did not happen, and the hard work by Obama staff has generated sour grapes for some.

Go ahead and get out of the Democrat Party. We are better off without you wimps.

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 7:37 PM

One of you commented that Obama is a "passive-aggressive twit".
What has he done that is passive-aggressive?
That sounds more like Hillary. By observing Obama it is clear he
is not the words you called him. And Hillary has shown many signs
of a maladaptive personality pattern.

Posted by: emma, CA | May 25, 2008 7:38 PM

Clinton's camp is blaming Obama's camp for overreacting. Everyone who is bashing Clinton in this discussion is merely proving the point of the story--the Obama's camp is upset. Clinton is saying they shouldn't be because her comments weren't meant to be offensive.

I'm not a strong supporter of either side (though definitely voting democrat in the fall), but Obama supporters tend to get really whiny and have a really hard time being objective. This isn't that big of a deal. Clinton's not going to have Obama assassinated. Please be smarter than the comments on this page.

Posted by: Jose | May 25, 2008 7:38 PM

RFK, Jr. is planning to run for Hillary's Senate position if she is elected President, that is the ONLY reason RFK, Jr. did not object to Hillary's malicious comment.

Posted by: Virginia | May 25, 2008 7:38 PM

I'm kind of depressed given this thing going on is so inconceivable. Rules, once agreed upon, must be respected and followed. We can't change rules in midgame no mater what the outcome is about. This is basic anywhere you go in the world. So, why is this campaign still going on? Why all this discussion on popular votes if the rules say only delegates count? Why the DNC guys don't step up and get this thing over? How can a person who doesn't care about rules be the president of the most powerful nation on earth?

Posted by: jefblack | May 25, 2008 7:38 PM

Not surprising that McAuliffe would use Fox News to spread Clinton propaganda - Hillary's Orwellian campaign tactics would have won her the Republican primary.

HRC is pathological - it's time for the superdelegates to give her the rest she needs.

Posted by: RKrenke | May 25, 2008 7:38 PM

Holly and others, the vitriol you spew about Hillary can only come back to you as the same kind of hatefulness you read in some of these posts about Obama. Why in the world would anyone dedicate their life to trying to help the American people? I have no doubt you'll never do anything proportionally to Clinton to help this country. You don't have to like all of her policy positions. That's what the ballot box is all about. And so far, she has the popular vote among all Democratic candidates. That's the truth.

Posted by: LonghornMama | May 25, 2008 7:38 PM

"If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't find offense to it, why is it that everybody else should?" The Obama machine is very clever, he acts like Mr. Clean while his minions do his dirty work "Karl Rove" tactics. Obama is a sissy, phoney and no gentleman. America will see the real Obama in time.

Posted by: Chapelle | May 25, 2008 7:39 PM

Every issue for the Democrats except why Hillary won't drop out is trivial. I believe she knows Barack will get the nomination, but is trying to sabotage his campaign so that she can run again in 4 years rather than having to wait eight.

Posted by: Gary Gross | May 25, 2008 7:39 PM

Good grief. The relevant point - if there is one - is that RFK was shot after the California primary. Not that he was shot in June. And this year, the California primary was, when? Ah, early February.

That would have been a good time for Hillary to think about the options, not now. There is one option now. Leave

Posted by: bilco | May 25, 2008 7:39 PM

To Sen Clinton:

I don't buy your crap for one second. Even now, you can't bring yourself to apologize. All you can do is justify your comment and try to rationalize it in a way that makes no sense whatsoever. Why is it you can NEVER apologize? Why? Is your pride that great? You honestly thought you would win this by Feb 5 (as you stated in Dec 2007). There was no doubt in your mind that you would win this, guess this is plan B of how you can win.

First of all, let's be clear about this. Your intention is quite clear. otherwise your analogy MAKES NO SENSE. If your trying to imply that past primaries were quite long and didn't end until June your being very disingenuous. In 1968, the primaries did not begin until MID-MARCH, you know that damn well. You could have cited other primaries in which they had been protracted, but you didn't. On THREE separate occasions, you made reference to this. Why? I'll tell you why. Your a MONSTER and monster's say monstrous things.

Posted by: Monica | May 25, 2008 7:39 PM

It is amazing! Obama says no problem regarding the comment and then she turns around and takes a swing at him. The Clintons are playing an all or nothing game. However we need to realize they are playing with out welfare. There is no way that I can see that Hillary can be VP after behavior like this. First she mis-speaks regarding being shot at in Bosnia. Most human beings will remember if they were shot at or not. Then she comes with this bs and now she says she is mis-understood. The Clintons have show their dark side and Americans need to show they see it by voting her in to oblivion.


Posted by: Terre | May 25, 2008 7:40 PM

Again... we continue to have one sided reporting.

Notice that the Obama groupies... cried foul
as if Clinton stated that OBAMA was in danger of being assassinated on his way to the Democratic Nomination.

She stated a fact... that occurred when your lordship KING OBAMA was still trying to decide if he was Christian, Catholic, or Muslim. And probably read about it when he was in one of those Elite Private Schools.. that he attended on scholarship WHEN he finally it was better to be a Black African in American rather than a bi-racial man in American. Even today... he is black african (dual citizenship in Kenya, first generation off the plane because of his father and step father.) (Both who had multiple wives while married to Obama's mom.)

I find it extremely difficult to understand how the DNC can make a decision to NOT COUNT the popular vote in Michigan and Florida. Nor to count the Delegates from those states BASED on the Electoral College NOT on the SUPER DELEGATE SCAM.

I firmly believe that the American Voter should be rioting in the streets.. (only the Black Voters will be rioting in the street IF OBAMA does not bet elected PRESIDENT. If he does get elected they will be dancing in the street.) because of how both the GOP and the DCCC have disregarded the Constitution of the United States.

Speaking of which... IF HUSSEIN was such a great scholar on Constitutional he would be
wanting to have all American Votes Counted.

But then he is the one that had his lawyers go through his competitors petitions to be put on the ballot for US Senate in Illinois. By the time he was done... HE WAS THE ONLY ONE ON THE BALLOT.

There should be a class action lawsuit against all the party leaders in the Democrat PARTY that voted for this super delegate process. The should be removed from office, fined, 75 % of their wealth used to pay down the NATIONAL DEBIT that occurred while they were in office.

It is AMERICAN HERITAGE to continue to FIGHT to overcome all odds...IF you feel that you are RIGHT.

Our national heritage is not based on race, religion, creed, natural origin... but in doing what is RIGHT.

One person, one vote. The vote counts... it is not based on some lame brained, gutless, anti-American politicians that what to CONTROL the United States and become rich and powerful... BY making rules and policies that are contrary to the Constitution of the United States.

Posted by: miller51550@yahoo.com | May 25, 2008 7:40 PM

To Michael posted @ 7:13

As I mentioned in my 6:31 post, I am a 60+, white, female, who will support Obama so your post really struck me. Yes, some of us are smarter than she thinks.

When I read those HRC posts that talk about retribution against Dems for anything less than her nomination, I wonder what drives them. I was in the forefront of efforts for the rights of women and, in those early meetings, we would vow that if we were ever to have equal opportunity, that we would break down barriers and not put up new ones. My take on these women is that they have created a "girls club" like the "boys club" I and those of my generation had to deal with. They have become what they decry. That was not the spirit of the movement.

As an Independent voter, I never vote for party and vet candidate claims as best I can. I was open to all when this began. I cannot support HRC based solely on her conduct and behavior during this campaign. Her gender has nothing to do with it. And neither should mine.

Posted by: SLR | May 25, 2008 7:40 PM

Obama and his handlers know full well that Clinton's comment wasn't anything about Obama. Hillary's comment about Bobby Kennedy being assassinated when he did that is a fact and a part of history, and the media has been talking about that for at least a month. It always has been in the news over the years.

Back to the point, exactly what does Hillary taking this primary into June have to do with Obama? He didn't do that. He has just been pulled forward to June, kicking and screaming all the way ever since he didn't get crowned on Super Tuesday.

Obama's handlers continue to twist comments around just to anger his supporters and make them even more loyal. Obama could have stopped this issue immediately by telling his supporters that he took no offense to the comment if, for nothing else, out of respect for the Kennedy family. But he chose not to. His supporters have even said unkind things about the Kennedy nephew who is supporting Hillary and who put out a statement. By not calming down his supporters, Obama has shown nothing but total disrespect for the Kennedy family.

Posted by: Keith | May 25, 2008 7:41 PM

For crying out loud - I've been giving Hillary the benefit of the doubt about this whole thing since it broke - but for her campaign to be so outrageous as to blame the Obama campaign for HER comments and people's interpretation - they have just gone TOO FAR.

I think we need to find out who the remaining undeclared superdelegates are and hold them accountable for not putting an end to this petty fight.

And how on earth can Hillary claim to have good judgment when she thinks it's OK to mention assassination when we are afraid for Barack's safety already? AND for her to pander to the white racists who support her while mentioning this is abominable. Her lack of judgment is starting to scare me.

Posted by: MM | May 25, 2008 7:42 PM

HRC's appalling comment was first reported by New York Post.

Then it appeared on the front page of The Druge Report, which claims over 10 milion viewers every day.

The Clinton campaign has used the Drudge Report to leak news before, in addition, the reclusive, right-wing Matt Druge has confessed his soft spot for HRC.

So, they rather blame it on Obama campaign.

It is not like the uneducated, hate-mongers will find out about this fact

It is a safe strategy for them. Well done McAuliffe .

Posted by: Zexorcist | May 25, 2008 7:42 PM

This is not about this weekend's issue but I just learned that if you "loan" a campaign money, the campaign is obligated to pay that money back with interest. That's the law. Hillary will be paid over $250,000 interest for the "Investment" she made in her campaign Guess who signed that legislation? Slick!

Posted by: davie | May 25, 2008 7:42 PM

I'm from New York, so naturally I supported Senator Clinton in her candidacy. Slowly, I began to change my support to Senator Obama. Her tone deafness with her latest comments only confirms for me that I was right to change my views.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:43 PM

Hillary is a spoiled brat. She is a victim. Its always everyone's else's fault. Its sexism. It's lack of funds. Its the caucus. Its Michigan and Florida. No, it is you Hillary and your apparent lack of campaign planning and financing arrogance, entitlement attitude and lack of ethics and values. The Clinton's have their own shady truth and ethics e.g. Adultery in the whitehouse,delay the taxes, keep the Dubai investments, deceive the voters that you have the popular vote, deceitful mathematics include Michigan and Florida even though Obama was not on the ballot, exclude the popular vote in the caucus, change the goal post, change the rules on how a presidential nominee is elected. What's funny is that this process has worked for years and worked for Bill Clinton but when it doesn't work for Hillary, it is time to change the rules. First it was leave Michigan and Florida out, then it was let the superdelegates decide, when they began to decide in Obama's favor, then it became let Michigan and florida back in, then just Florida, then it became change the whole democratic process for a nominee. I don't know how she sleeps at night but I do know this, the bible says she will reap what she sews and she sews deception and lies. The only people she is deceiving though are the voters with high school degrees and some not all senior citizens and herself. This I know for sure. I am a single Mom and I voted for Bush before because of the Clinton's lack of ethics in the whitehouse. They have not learned from their mistakes. We cannot have a leader who whines, cries and lies oe even has alzeimers. I believe she has promised to do a million things on day one. You know that is just another lie because it is impossible.

Posted by: JJ | May 25, 2008 7:43 PM

Good grief people there are posts in here that are joking about killing the candidates. It seems that it is true many Americans are all for guns and incapable of sane debate.

From Canada where crafted words and not guns are the choice tools of a reasonable debate.

Good luck you are all going to need it with the collapse of the worldwide economy that seems very likely to be upon us all very shortly.

Posted by: Pierre Gagnon | May 25, 2008 7:44 PM

i am so tired Hillary and her feminazi supporters I am a women and would never vote for Hillary because she is anything but a true feminist! she is not doing this for women, she is doing this all for herself..why is it that everyone is to blame but her for her own mistakes misstatements and mishandling of her campaign?
I wish she would just go away

Posted by: nataly80 | May 25, 2008 7:44 PM

I have given up on Hillary Clinton. I tried. I stayed as long as I could. I am done with her. I will support Barack Obama for President of the United States.

Posted by: Whiteshark | May 25, 2008 7:45 PM

48 hours later, it's Obama's fault? Bizarro.

Posted by: Scott in PacNW | May 25, 2008 7:45 PM

To POLITICAL WATCHDOG

You say you are a journalist!? Now we know what has gone wrong with journalism.

To quote you:

"She was a Watergate prosecutor and a powerful attorney--making by the way more money than Obama could dream of."

So much for balanced reporting. Yes, she worked on the Watergate Judicial Committee, but you forgot to mention that she was fired for being a liar and dishonest, unethical lawyer.

That is one of the most important of many reasons why she cannot be president of the United States. It is one of the reasons that it is astounding that she is even a candidate.

From a white, middle-aged woman who is supposed to belong to the demographic that supports this unethical woman.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 7:45 PM

Is Hillary going for some kind of record for gutter politics? This is disgusting and pathetic. She has no shame.

Posted by: kurthunt | May 25, 2008 7:45 PM

I'm sick and tired of Hillary blaming everyone else except herself for her problems:

1) Did the media or Obama make her mismanage her funds to the tune of 21 million in debts (how can someone who can't handle 178 million handle 200 trillion in national GNP)?

2) make her lie about Bosnia sniper fire and being named after Sir Edmund Hillary (who climbed Mt. Everest years after Hillary was born),

3) make her try to change the rules and the goal-posts every few weeks?

4) make her change forms and shapes like Greek mythological figure (from voice of experience, to action figure, to whisky-drinking gun-toting blue collar diva, to defender of the hard-working "white" people? and

5) and now mention RFK assassination flippantly like it is something totally devoid of emotion?

Give me a break. I will not only not vote for this woman but resign from my gender if she does any dirty back-room politicking to get the nomination.

Superdelegates you better listen all the women, not just those who support Hillary.

Obama-Gore '08 or Obama-Sebilius '08

Posted by: KateLynn | May 25, 2008 7:46 PM

Interesting a guy like him even wants to get in the middle of this. He doesn't enjoy secret service protection.

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What absolute garbage from McAuliffe. Obama himself tried to calm things down in PR the other day, saying that it was a simple slip of the tongue. Sure Obama staffers will try to push this story along, but they weren't exactly ravenous vultures here. After all, it was Hillary who made the horrible quip.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:46 PM

Unless Sen. Clinton was addressing RFK Jr. privately, what Mr. Kennedy feels is of no relevance. A person of integrity doesn't condition her contrition. Either you behave badly or you don't, period--and when you do, you apologize for the behavior. To express sympathy for the FEELINGS that said behavior MIGHT have engendered is worthless.

Let's have a real apology, Senator Clinton.

Posted by: enough | May 25, 2008 7:46 PM

Fact: Hillary will win the popular vote

Fact: Hillary will have won all the key battleground states including PA, OH, FL

Fact: Obama & his campaign have fought to ensure the states of FL & MI aren't counted in the democratic process

Fact: Hillary wins the head-2-head matchup with McCain by winning in all the key battleground states

Fact: Obama loses to McCain in the head-2-head matchup b/c of his inability to win over working class voters.

Fact: Since March, Hillary's campaign has won more elected delegates than Obama including states like TX, OH, PA, IN, WV and KY.

Fact: Obama's devisive campaign has caused his momentum to cease and the vetting process has revealed associations that would have left his campaign for dead if they had came out sooner.

Fact: Barack Obama's questionable comments regarding "people cling to guns and religion" and Michelle Obama's comments about being "proud of America for the first time" will be even more a factor in the general election and makes Barack un-electable.

Summary: Hillary is clearly the best candidate to represent the Democratic party in the general election. Contact the Superdelegates and let your voice be heard!

Posted by: Fact not Fiction | May 25, 2008 7:47 PM

Ms. Clinton and her campaign feel they do not owe Mr. Obama an apology because "...Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't find offense to it, why is it that everybody else should?" Perhaps the Mr. Kennedy does not believe Hillary meant any disrespect to his family and their legacy. However, despite what her she and her campaign say, she was clearly referencing a possible attempt on Mr. Obama's life. The right thing to do is personally apologize. Obama, if not his campaign, has been gracious and charitable for this and other faux pas' Ms. Clinton has made.

Posted by: dennybop | May 25, 2008 7:47 PM

I am a 65-year old White female who is very offended by the Clinton campaign. I am tired of their blame game and the "poor me" attitude of Hillary Clinton.

Please, superdelegates, endorse Obama, and stop this Clinton attempt to destroy the Democratic Party!

Posted by: Judy | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM

"Speaking of which... IF HUSSEIN was such a great scholar on Constitutional he would be
wanting to have all American Votes Counted."

Miller at 7:40, we all believe EVERY vote should be counted - so what about those hundreds of thousands of voters who wanted to vote for Obama but were disenfranchised by the Democratic party? WHY do their voices not count according to Hillary and her supporters?
THIS is something I truly do not understand....

And honestly, what does a person's NAME have to do with anything - don't you see how you guys try to flare up tempers by focusing on the name Hussein? What does his name have to do with ANYthing??? Another thing I fail to understand.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM

These Washington Post comment areas are all trollsville. Hillary may be down to her last quarter on the slot machine, but she still has that fleeting chance. But the poisonous comments of the many idiots who are just waiting to post is disenheartening.

To paraphrase James Carville. "It's the stupid." There are enough of them here- on both sides- to sicken a small town.

Posted by: irishjazz | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM

Oh Eric:

You just don't get it, do you? Obama needs us Hillary supporters to vote for him. It doesn't matter how much you Obama fans personally look down on us Hillary voters or think we were disrespecting him. The fact remains: if he is to win the election, we have to vote for him.

And I will not vote for him, unless I see some respect for Hillary coming from his supporters and from his campaign.

This is such old news now, but what the hey! I'll respond to your comments:

"You mean like the respect Senator Clinton has shown by not congratulating Senator Obama when he wins a primary as he always does to her when she does?"

Petty. Who cares about congrats? I don't care if she congratulates or he congratulates. It doesn't matter. But I do care about a bunch of Obama supporters blatantly calling Hillary a witch, or a *itch, as they have on this blog. And the constant dispatching of attendees to rallies to boo and hiss at her. And then making a commercial of it. That is about as low as it gets in a campaign. If you've ever done any of it, you know. Hey, were you in Pittsburgh, per chance?

"Or by her campaign feeding Senator Obama's picture in a turban to the drudge report?"

Her campaign didn't feed them anything. It was the Obama campaign that hopped on that to use it as a race-bait strategy as it has throughout the campaign. Come on, Erich, really. That *hit was about as transparent as it gets.

"Or her campaigning blackening Senator Obama up for one of their videos?"

You are really determined to race bait aren't you? I haven't even heard that one before.

"Or implying that the only hard working Americans are white Americans thereby implying that Senator Obama's supporters are nothing but lazy minorities or elitists?"

That's a lot of "implying". Implications are highly subjective. Sounds like you are the one stretching to make race an issue, agian, typical of a BO fan.

"Or that he's not a muslim "as far as she knows"?"

1.You should be taking issue with the journalist who kept asking her that over and over again looking for a "gotcha" moment. Oh, yeah, that's right, you are only concerned about that when it's Obama being interrogated. The precious few times he has been.

2. You are reaching again. It's a fair and direct response. He is not a Muslim, as far as she knows. This time you are religion-baiting.

"You mean that type of respect?"

I mean drop your hateful edge and admit that you need Hillary and her supporters, if you want Obama to have a chance in the election. That type of respect. As in, don't take us for granted. As in, reach out to us. But, hey if you want to keep stoking this, we will be happy to take this all the way to Denver. We don't have anything to lose by it, you know.

Posted by: K | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM

Hillary Clinton is so punch drunk from arrogance, she just can't accept that she's not going to win. The Clintons are so cunning they think they can have people eating out of their hands, but they are so self-serving it's revolting to watch.

They lack graciousness. A person like her can't even run a campaign, let alone a country. And when her husband was President, we all know what he had on his mind in the White House. They're certainly not noble.

Posted by: Tom White | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM

How sad and pathetic of the Clinton gang. Hillary is so craven and disgusting, I don't even want her to be a senator anymore.

Posted by: LH | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM

Hillary's supposed to be intelligent. She's a big girl. She opens her mouth and tries to place blame on people who have nothing to do with what she's saying. Not presidential. She's always been a liar, and in my opinion, she's just trash who happens to be in the spotlight right now.


Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vegas | May 25, 2008 7:49 PM

HILLERY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT THEN WHAT IS ALLREADY BEING SAID AMONG ALL THE PEOPLE.THESE ARE THE FACTS, AND OBAMA IS IN MORE DANGER THEN HILLERY,UNFORTINTLY BECAUSE OF RACE.BUT BESIDES ALL THAT.THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF ALL THE STATES VOTED THE SAME DAY. EVERY STATE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE. EVERY STATE COUNTS!IT HAS COST MILLION'S THAT COULD GO TOWARDS THE HUNGRY OR THE AMPUTIES FROM THE WAR.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:49 PM

Good grief, Hillary can't even state a historic fact without the press diving on her like vultures and the Obama camp crying like a bunch of babies while insinuating a more sinister meaning behind her words. Overly-sensitive Obama in the White House? No thanks. She's so much tougher. I think you'll find the majority in agreement come November. Get the kleenex ready. There'll be a monsoon of tears to the left...waaay to the left.

Posted by: obama overload. | May 25, 2008 7:50 PM

Only by a certain date or you lose it. As well as you have to have a campaign going to do fund raising or you would be running a fraud.

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This is not about this weekend's issue but I just learned that if you "loan" a campaign money, the campaign is obligated to pay that money back with interest. That's the law. Hillary will be paid over $250,000 interest for the "Investment" she made in her campaign Guess who signed that legislation? Slick!

Posted by: davie | May 25, 2008 7:42 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:50 PM

She's funny.

Posted by: Ken | May 25, 2008 7:50 PM

PALEEEZE SUPERDELEGATES SPARE US!!! Make this vile primary END! Hillary's lying, spinning, psychotic denial is making me sick to my stomach!!!

Posted by: primarywatcher | May 25, 2008 7:50 PM

Fat Hillary needs to call it a night.

Posted by: Vincent | May 25, 2008 7:50 PM

Mark my words, if she is V.P under him, she will be President by the end of his first term. Enough said.

Posted by: Bobby(not Kennedy) | May 25, 2008 7:50 PM

Why the comparisons between Obama and the Kennedy's - JFK and RFK? There's no comparison. The Kennedy's were bulldogs - fearless and unafraid of anything, particularly Robert Kennedy. He didn't care if people didn't like him - and there were plenty of people that didn't! He was too busy standing up for the causes he believed in. Barack Obama does not possess that bulldog quality, and that's truly unfortunate because that's what we need now at the top. Obama is a weak and inexperienced candidate who has a good 'line', but nothing to show for it. All the talk of hope and unity will not make up for a lack of experience. Take a look at his experience (what little he has) in the Illinois State Legislature and all the 'present' votes - or just not being there, period. Even the Chicago Tribune called him 'gutless'. He doesn't have the toughness for the job, and I fear he is much more like Jimmy Carter than either of the Kennedys.

Posted by: Kathy | May 25, 2008 7:51 PM

Hillary on the ballot! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

A lot of you fools are on drugs to think that will happen. Give her to McCain.

By the way, RFK Jr., who has overcome his 1983 arrest for heroin possession, has set up a committee in New York to seek Hillary's Senate seat when she is elected President. Someone should give the 53 year old boy a drug test. He's gotta be on something.

Posted by: Keep the Laughs Coming | May 25, 2008 7:53 PM

The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama is not able to close the democratic nomination and his team of extremists are using anything they can, to stop Hillary from continuing her campaign.

The fact is that Barack won the early primaries, before we knew who the real Barack Hussein is. Now that we know about his associations with black supremacist and radical extremist groups, he can not get the support of hard working americans and all he has is the vote of blacks that vote for him for the one and only reason that he is black and the young, naive and idealistic.

Take a look at Barack's true agenda:
blackradicalcongress.org

We will continue to support Hillary Rodham Clinton for the office of President of the United States of America, because she loves our country and has always been proud of it.

Hillary will win the popular vote when all the votes are counted in all 55 United States. Every vote must count!

Posted by: Manolete | May 25, 2008 7:54 PM

I am so disgusted by this campaign. Obama better listen up he will never win the Presidency. People will not vote for someone who listened to hate mongering speeches for 20 years. He his wife and his children loved this Reverend who spewed Hate for Jews, Italians, Whites and worst of all Americans, and now wants to be our President- Who in their right mind could trust someone like that. Oh because he now saids he doesn't like his reverend, oh because now he likes America, oh because now he likes Jews and Italians oh please he is such a two faced racist liar. Vote Hillary or McCain.

Posted by: mimi362 | May 25, 2008 7:55 PM

It doesn't matter how 'out of context' the remarks have been interpreted. The fact is that it was a poor choice of words for Senator Clinton. Hillary supporters shouldn't get 'bitter'.

Posted by: Matt | May 25, 2008 7:55 PM

I feel bad for Hillary as I believe she made an agreement with Bill to stay with him when she was so humuilated with the Monica, etc. thing...if he supported her for president at the right time. She also was under the impression that she WILL BE the nominee and is shocked that a black man is giving her a problem. After all Bill and Hill kissed black asses for all the years in office. I truly believe that she cannot possibly believe someone is running her to the ground. As to her remark I think she was right, no one knows what will happen in the near future. What troubles me is that all white people have got to be very careful of what they say so that no black is offended.

Also have a question: why do black want to be called African Americans, when it was Africans who sold their ancestors into slavery to the white man? Tribes went to war and sold their prisoners to profit. Put that in you hat Obama. His wife, if God forbid he is elected, will be the worst nightmare ever seen in this country as first lady. She is clearly a bigot. They should not be so easily forgiven for the relationship with that racist pastor. I am willing to bet that racist minister will read the involcation at the inaugural ceremony if GOD FORBID he is elected..as what can anyone do to potest if that is what the president wants. He will act as a spoiled little man if he gets in. I am seriously thinking of becoming an ex-patriot and moving to Ireland, where my ancestors came from.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 7:56 PM

I've never understood where the anti-Hillary bile came from, but she certainly does know how to push it. Now I can see her shouting Cleavon Little's lines from Blazing Saddles: "Get back, or I'll shoot the n*gger!" Then one of Hillary's hacks shouts out "She'll do it, back off!"

Posted by: MarkB | May 25, 2008 7:56 PM

May God have mercy on the sick people who would want evil on another as it will surely come back to their own family as Gos seeks his revenge.

Posted by: Danielle Clarke Phila Pa | May 25, 2008 7:57 PM

James Carville, a sycophant bought and paid for by the Clintons -- a Clinton yapping lapdog -- is enough to sicken a large city -- don't need any small towns there.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 7:58 PM

Mondale-Liberal-Loser Dukakis-Liberal-Loser Kerry-Liberal-Loser Obama-Liberal-Loser DO YOU LIBERALS SEE A PATTERN HERE.!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 7:59 PM

I would ask, God willing, that all the superdelegates vote for Barack Obama before May 31st.
God does indeed bless America. (George Bush was Satan's idea.)

Posted by: Jesus Hussein Christ | May 25, 2008 7:59 PM

There is not much doubt in most people's minds that Hillary Clinton has some serious mental problems. The woman is unfit for public office.

The Clinton's sense of entitlement is a danger to Obama and the American people.

Posted by: James | May 25, 2008 7:59 PM

When all is said and done, Obama will be the next President of the United States, and just as time and time again Obama has taken the high road and forgiven Clinton for her reckless comments, so to will he overlook, and forgive the many racist fools that are making themselves so apparent here.

I live in Portland (yes we are very liberal, and we like it that way), and sometimes I forget that not all people are as open minded on issues of race as we are here, but reading many of the comments posted here reminds me how hateful, ignorant, and outright racist much of the country still is.

Hopefully when Obama becomes the president, he will prove all of you dumb white trash voters... um, excuse me, I guess the PC term is "undereducated blue-collar voters" that not only can a black man lead this country, but he will be a President that we will all become proud of.

Obama is the right man to mend the fences within this country, and also around the world, at a time when we so desperately need true diplomacy.

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 7:59 PM

No one has shot a U.S. president or candidate lately, but that's not because no one wants to. Nuts don't even need a coherent reason - look at Hinckley. The Secret Service protection has greatly improved, that's all. Hillary is angling for veep, or is hoping for a scandal, or is making herself seem inevitable for next time in case McCain wins in the fall, or just wants to finish what she started, now that she's so close to the end, or all of the above. Some people are just like that.

Posted by: Janet Swanborn | May 25, 2008 8:01 PM

I guess this is a non issue too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0
I know these are Clinton apologist/appeasers, so let me explain it to these disingenuous, manipulative, divisive individuals, McAuliffe, and Wolfson. Her thoughtless comments, however intentioned, allowed the scum of the earth like Liz Trotter feel emboldened to joke about the issue on national TV. There is just a very small step to allow someone to make it reality. There are a lot of crazy individuals out there; if there is a suggestion of endorsement, no matter how obtuse, they may take action.
The fact is that Hillary said these comments 3 times. In her twisted dark mind it is perfectly justifiable to advance the theory that she needs to stay in the race in case Obama gets assassinated like RFK. This thought process reveals a coldly calculating inhuman individual who depends on a national tragedy to justify her remaining with a failed campaign; wishful thinking on her part.
I might have given her the benefit of the doubt, even with her white working class comment. But this comment goes way beyond politics; this depravity reveals a level of pure unadulterated evil that history has seldom witnessed.
This is why that these comments raised such sustained and virulent reaction. To suggest that Obama's campaign had something to do with it is outrageous; and surpassed the usual duplicitous drivel that emanates from this dynamic duo of slime.
We are concerned and outraged Americans. Hillary needs to go now.

Posted by: Walt | May 25, 2008 8:01 PM

The polarization here is simply astounding. How many of the most vicious comments here, purporting to come from HRC or BHO supporters are really from GOP operatives or supporters who are simply trying to stir things up?

Not one comment on this thread - not one - provides a positive reason to support Grandpa Simpson (McCain). Sowing dissent among Democrats is all they have left. We have two terrific candidates. Either one, or both, make for a terrific ticket in November. This brouhaha? A tempest in a teapot.

Posted by: George Smiley | May 25, 2008 8:02 PM

If you're not going to vote for the Democratic candidate because your favorite didn't win, why not vote for a third party candidate. Nader may be running, and then there is the Libertarian Party. The two party system doesn't represent enough diverse views. We need more viable parties. Vote for somebody other than what fiddle dee/fiddle dum offer.

Posted by: Javalation | May 25, 2008 8:02 PM

"Overly-sensitive Obama in the White House? No thanks. She's so much tougher."

Right. Except when the press and everyone who is not voting for her is picking on her because of her gender.

Sigh.

She's almost like Bush: either you're for her, or you're not a hard-working white American. But hey, _that's_ not a racist comment, right?

Posted by: Huh? | May 25, 2008 8:02 PM

I am a sincere Obama supporter. And I think Sen. Clinton has many too. That being said, I worry some of her supporters have to potential for being violent(from some of the comments here) Clinton has found a way to appeal to these types by planting "scenerios" in their so-called brains. If anything happens to Obama, Clinton will be partially to blame!!!

Posted by: Sher | May 25, 2008 8:03 PM

"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context,"

I have learned that, when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make, and I think that is what happened here," Obama (D-Ill.) told Radio Isla in his first public comments about the remark. "Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it, and I will take her at her word on that."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:03 PM

Just remember, peeps...all of the media idiots out there, including Chris Matthews (Dave's big brother?), Keith Oberman (that's me!) et al are LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.

That is why I am voting NONE OF THE ABOVE in November.

Or, at the very least, I am saying NO TO HILLARY forever. Period. She is out of politics in my book. NO MORE CLINTONS!

Go away, Hill-or-ree. We do NOT want you in the Senate, nor the White house. We have already had our fill of hicks like your cheating hubby Billy Bob.

Just pack your bags, head back to Arkansas, tuck your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. The American people have had enough of your crap to last a lifetime.

Posted by: Keith_Oberman | May 25, 2008 8:04 PM

Clinton Camp Stokes RFK Flap by 'Blaming Obama'

What's new? That was expected.

"If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't find offense to it, why is it that everybody else should?" McAuliffe said. "They shouldn't. They ought to take Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -- he did not misinterpret it or misjudge it."

Do Robert F. Kennedy Jr. speak for all the Kennedy(s)? Don't think so.

"McAuliffe said Clinton is staying in the race to give hope to the millions of women who have voted..."

No, Clinton is staying in the race to run up millions in debt ... Then will look to BamBam to bail her out.

"We are prepared to 'fight' this so that all 50 states are included, that the delegates be seated."

Let me get this straight, every time Clinton encounters a situation, she is ready to "fight". She is willing to 'fight' the whole democratic party, and yet was afraid to 'fight' 'Monica', what a punk.

"One prominent Clinton supporter acknowledged that virtually all hope for her winning the nomination is gone now."

Would that prominent Clinton supporter tell it to HRC and not the WaPo, pls.

With HRC, her lies need to be explained, and her explaination(s) need to be a lie. HRC offers Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.



Posted by: knowledge_unchallenged | May 25, 2008 8:04 PM

Please please please please Hillary Clinton SUPPORTERS....WAKE UP!!!!!

Listen, if I make a fool out of you that is bad... but if I make you make a fool out of yourself, that is beyong terrible!

YOU HAVE THE LUXURY OF A BRAIN..USE IT!!!
IT IS YOUR BRAIN NOT HRC's or B.Obamas'.

PLEASE USA WAKE UP!!! HRC knows that her words can trigger off some nutty people to do nutty things. So unless you HRC supporters have the same intention...STOP TRYING TO PLAY-DOWN HER INDIRECT AND WITTY AGITATIONS.

Come on people, won't you prefer to tell your children that you were on the side of decency and honesty when all this dust settles! Please I beg of you,,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.... YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BRAIN... PLEASE USE IT AND BE PROUD OF YOURSELF!!!

Respect those who respect you! Anyone wanting to fool you, does not think too highly of you! That person does not deserve your respect! B.Obama is not perfect but so far, when he is wrong he admits it! He does not try to sell us some unbelievable story and then tell us to sell that foolish story to others! That would be downright disrespectful!

USE YOUR GOD GIVEN BRAIN AND RESPECT THE CRY OF YOUR CONSCIENCE AND FREE YOURSELF FROM THE SHACKLES OF STUPIDITY. NOBODY HAS ANY RIGHT TO MAKE A FOOL OF YOU!!!

Posted by: Outsider | May 25, 2008 8:04 PM

When this psycho loses the nomination in early June, I wish she and Billy Boy will ride off into the sunset never to be seen on the political stage again. Oh, and take their daughter with them.

Posted by: Olivia | May 25, 2008 8:04 PM

dachef1: Starting with a racist slur. Classy. That's how you think McCain wants his supporters to represent him? I don't plan to vote for him but one thing's clear: he's way too good for you.

Posted by: George Smiley | May 25, 2008 8:05 PM

The Clintons are vile. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the last Democrat on the planet.

Posted by: Mark F | May 25, 2008 8:05 PM

As an Obama supporter, I would be scared to death if he was to pick Hillary as his VP.

Knowing how low the Clinton's will stoop to get back into the White House, it wouldn't surprise me if they have ulterior motives with Obama if they were on the same ticket.

For Obama's safety, I hope he stands strong and says no to a Obama/Clinton ticket.

Posted by: Allan | May 25, 2008 8:06 PM

This is beyond ridiculous.

How far is Hillary willing to go?

Posted by: Jess | May 25, 2008 8:06 PM

Here's the Clinton Formula: Throw a bomb, apologize for throwing the bomb, then bring it up again and again and again.

Posted by: x32792 | May 25, 2008 8:06 PM

I agree with you, Keith.

I have had enough of Hilloree's crap, and I for one will actually be voting for McCain, and not Hilloree or O'Bama.

At least he is a Lieberal that I can TRUST, not like any liar on the Democratic ticket this season.

Hillary, YOU SUCK! Go dry up and blow away.

Posted by: Dave_Matthews | May 25, 2008 8:06 PM

Maybe we should stop worrying about who circulated what and start explanations on why the word "assassination" was used s close to ML King's and Kennedy's assassinations. Anyone? McAuliffe? Wolfson? Annie Oakley?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:06 PM

My dear ole Daddy once told me that a Drunk person will always speak their Sober thoughts.

Posted by: R. Smith | May 25, 2008 8:06 PM

Out of curiosity, what commentaries is the Obama camp circulating? I haven't seen any.

Posted by: Sebastian | May 25, 2008 8:07 PM

You tend to lose all credibility when you make comments like:

"I complete faith that a country that "clings to guns & religion" will find away to ensure Barack Hussien Obama isn't our next President. One way or the other."

Win by the death of the opposition... Who does that remind me of?

Oh yes, Hillary!

Posted by: Stuart | May 25, 2008 8:08 PM

Hilary's campaign has no shame. Now they blame Obama for her character flaw. I am surprised they did not blame Obama for her lie about Bosnia it is citizens, like myself who are angered by Hilary's comment, because despite all her claims to be the most electable, she says a lot of stupid things. I think Obama let her off the hook with his usual graciousness. She has used racism and sexism as her latest tactics. Her latest whining about sexism is nothing but pandering to women. My friends and I, all of who are all women in the over- 50 age group really don't care if a woman or man is elected as the next president. We care about their character, Hilary has serious character flaws.

Posted by: Ann | May 25, 2008 8:08 PM

surely hillary clinton could have made her point WITHOUT the reference to the assasination?
what does "robert kennedy was assasinated" have to do with elongated primaries? couldn't she have simply stated, "robert kennedy won the california primary in june", to make her point?

she's hoping for a calamity...too bad for her the rev. wright brouhaha came too soon. rev. wright would have been the calamity that she would have needed to slow down obama.

she just doesn't get it (her words), and the only thing she does "get" is that she needs an extraordinary event to save her candidacy. she was thinking out loud, or, for all you bible scholars out there, she was taking the verse about being "the ram in the bush" to justify her stubborness.

she knew what she was saying. the difference is that, yet again, her elitism made her believe that everything she can say will carry no negative consequence.

if barack was like hillary, he would have brought up monica by now. or even something more legitimate like why hillary didn't support betty currie in a sexual harrassment lawsuit (made to drive into work at all hours just to sign in monica for her boss' needs?)...fortunately, barack doesn't wallow in the mud like hillary likes to do.

Posted by: KenFromCalifornia | May 25, 2008 8:08 PM

When this psycho loses the nomination in early June, I wish she and Billy Boy will ride off into the sunset never to be seen on the political stage again. Oh, and take their daughter with them.

Posted by: Olivia | May 25, 2008 8:04 PM
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I doubt it. She will use FL and MI as a pretext to continue until the convention. We should not underestimate her capacity for evil.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:08 PM

Leave it up to the liberals to find a way to get a Republican elected after 8 years of George W. Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:09 PM

Obama supposedly forgives but his underlings stoke the fire. Why does he not reprimand them -- but being a true Washington politician he doesn't...AND why hasn't there been a rush of superdelegates to put Obama over the top? Remember that in the primaries the late undecided voters broke for Hillary! Media MEN comment on this.

Posted by: Victor | May 25, 2008 8:09 PM

How is it that some of these people have such hatred in their hearts for other humans? Irregardless of whatever has been said by whomever, ALL of the candidates are POLITICIANS. If you are truly AMERICAN, you should clearly know better. I am certain that any of them would say that the sky is magenta if that would deliver the necessary votes.

Some of the commentary here is appalling in its ignorance. "The nation is not ready to vote for an Afro-American for President". "Obama is a Marxist". "Obama is a Muslim". "Obama is not qualified to be a President". "Obama is a sexist". It is not encouraging for any percentage of the nation to see or hear that some of the comments seem to align in a supremacist kind of patriotism.

If Obama is unqualified to be President, then how exactly did he get to the U.S. Senate? Did he not run against another black man, the brilliant and very conservative Alan Keyes? Why then, pray tell, did the black populace of Illinois (or the black population of this nation for that matter) elect Alan Keyes instead when he ran for President? Was he a Marxist too? Or was the nation not ready for his politics either?

People in this nation need to wake up and understand that there is a great likelihood that Muslim Americans, Marxist Americans, prejudiced Americans, white Americans, black Americans, hispanic Americans are ALL AMERICANS. The politics of divisiveness have fooled many into believing in a neo-conservative agenda which has ill-served this nation for the past eight years.

Our current President is very likely a good man at heart, but the evidence of his love for the country is difficult to discern, given the failures of his attempts to rebuild New Orleans and the surrounding area, the strategy of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And as to religion, my opinion as a Pastor is that pulpits and politics do not and cannot mix favorably. There are issues with which ministers can have an opinion or a voice. But this concept of political endorsements is a bit unsettling to me. I mean, am I not supposed to endorse Jesus Christ first? After all, man can only disappoint, but He reigns in perfection.

Posted by: bigblackguy | May 25, 2008 8:09 PM

To Politicalwatchdog:
"As a journalist I can tell you that she is the smartest of the three candidates. However, the spin doctors of the Obama campaign and the liberal media have waged war against Hillary. And don't think that nut Howard Dean likes the Clintons. It has been a well orchestrated campaign by the DNC."

As another journalist, I agree with every word you wrote -- I wish I had written it myself. People who actually followed these candidates' Senate careets Know that Clinton is far and way the brightest and most talented of the lot, and if she is not elected, this country will have missed a great opportunity. I think, further, that ranking the three, Obama would rate a mediocre, distant third.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:10 PM

Terry McCauliffe gives talking heads a bad name. Wolfson is simply a complete jerk with no moral compass and Hillary is turning out to be rather scary, even more than George Bush. I'd be very afraid to have her running the country. She's starting to look like some sort of "Manchurian Candidate" for real. When you think you've seen it all, in terms of outrageous behavior, they seem to have a talent for raising the bar further. Disgusting, ridiculous and most of all, shameful. The Democratic Party bosses and the Super Delegates should shut her down this coming week before she really does not only destroy the party, but create irreparable racial rifts beyond the damage already done. If they don't show some courage, then, they have only themselves to blame for what is now a complete fiasco and they get what they deserve.

Posted by: ProfSM | May 25, 2008 8:10 PM

I refuse to believe so many white americans can be as ignorant and shallow as some of their comments on this board. I pray that all americans will choose to unite and be proud of whomever is elected President in November. Lest we forget that there are people in this world who mean to harm, not just Hillary, Obama, or McCain and their supporters, but all americans.

Posted by: wow | May 25, 2008 8:10 PM

Once again she demonstrates stupidity. By bringing up the subject again, they keep it alive. I for one am happy that we are still talking about it. Alex Half-wit on msnbc wasn't. She blamed Obama for the fact that we are still talking about it. Maybe she should blame McAuliffe

Posted by: MiddleRoad | May 25, 2008 8:11 PM

Fact not Fiction | May 25, 2008 7:47 PM


Hey you are so right "Fact not Fiction" -Especially as America is populated by several million illiterate and ignorant racists like yourself ---- Hence it is possible that Barack Obama could lose the election come November.

But at least he will have his self-respect and dignity which is something you and your type have never had ---- and never will!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:11 PM

Hillary is still running because she wants to do damage to the Democratic psrty. She knows that she won't be the VP nominee because the party leaders are starting to hate her and know she's out for herself. So she wants to do just enough damage to cause the democrats to lose in November. That way she can run again in 4 years. In 8 years she will be too old.

Posted by: Common Sense | May 25, 2008 8:12 PM

To Hillary supporter (the one who talked about clinging to gun and religion)

Hillary said, in regard to immigration:

"During the 1990s, I cannot remember being asked about immigration... Why? Because the economy was working... And average Americans didn't have to go around looking for someone to blame."

She made this statement talking to Joe Klein about the hot topic of immigration, who wrote an article last November on Time.com.

The link to the article is here:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1688794,00.html

Yes, Hillary thinks that average Americans are insecure people who run around looking for someone else to blame for their economic woes.

Posted by: Tony | May 25, 2008 8:12 PM

Hillary made a careless statement that caused many sadness, anger and pain. Please apologize and move on - Blaming Obama for statements you made is just plain wrong. Obama took you at your word. Please follow the golden rule - Barack Obama does - and that is why we follow him.

Posted by: oh voter | May 25, 2008 8:13 PM

One more thing, to both the sexist *and* racist trolls infesting this thread: You are uncivilized trash. You have been losing for a hundred years and you are losing now, and you'll keep losing. Your way is the way of the dinosaur. We will have a black president in our lifetimes, and we will have a woman president. And they will be OUR presidents just as Jefferson and Lincoln and Reagan and both Roosevelts and JFK were.

You are not only on the losing side of history; you've already lost. We are all God's children. I hope that you change your ways before you face God's judgement.

Posted by: George Smiley | May 25, 2008 8:13 PM

"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context,"

I have learned that, when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make, and I think that is what happened here," Obama (D-Ill.) told Radio Isla in his first public comments about the remark. "Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it, and I will take her at her word on that."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:13 PM

The problem here is that Clinton and her flaks are trying to tell Obama that he has no right to be offended. Of course he does. She may not have intended to offend him. In fact, I believe that she did not. But she has no right to tell him that he should not be offended. How arrogant, to tell someone else how he should feel. The proper response here was for Clinton to say, "I'm sorry I offended you. I did not mean to do so." Instead, she says, "IF you were offended, I'm sorry that you were offended," as though the fault lies with those she offended. She takes no responsibility for the thoughtless and insensitive remark she made, then she blames the offended party for being offended, then she whines about the nasty ole media mistreating her again because she's a woman. Clinton and her crowd at their cynical worst. Today's performances by the Clinton people is worse than the initial gaffe. A gaffe is just a gaffe, a mistake. Today's spin is deliberately cynical and craven, even for the Clinton campaign. Yuck.

Posted by: George King | May 25, 2008 8:14 PM


Did everyone watch or listen to
Howie Wolfson and McAuliffe?

Anyone want these two in the White House, Representing America abroad, making the rules? In time of stress and war? TElling us the truth about the government?

With Bill and Hillary Clinton?

Good God.

My God,

Posted by: reprobates | May 25, 2008 8:14 PM

Not only did she say the "A" word,
but a short time earlier "Bubba" concluded that possibly the only way she could become President was
to be Obama's Vice President.

This, of course, was another reference to the "A" word.

Unbelievable!

Posted by: RJ Donald | May 25, 2008 8:14 PM

Hillary Is waitin' in the weeds for somebody to kill Obama for her. Please hurry so that she can start sleeping at night again,......

Oh,....andif you want to do that other guy too,.......

Posted by: Olddog | May 25, 2008 8:15 PM

jessica,
you don't speak for the white people. You are a lunatic just like other Hilton supporters.

Posted by: RJ | May 25, 2008 8:15 PM

I agree that it's time to write to the DNC and let the superdelegates know that it's time to end this. Senator Hillary knows it's over. Many of her supporters do not; so when Bill, Nancy, Al or John and the other SuperDs call it in a week or so (in order to retire Sen. Clinton's spiraling debt before the deadline) there's going to be plenty of angst to go around.

Prolonging the heartbreak is only making it that much harder to say "goodbye".

Posted by: D | May 25, 2008 8:15 PM

If the empty suit asks,I hope Hillary says no. LET HIM LOSE ON HIS OWN

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 8:16 PM


My God, I don't think Roger Federer could return one of Wolfson's backhanders.
Not everyone thinks like you, Hillary. Except your campaign operatives.
And by the way, congratulations on your masterful press play on the Jeremiah Wright story for a few dozen more cycles; too bad you couldn't get Rezko to stick; mixed reviews on Bill's South Carolina race gambit. That must have been a tough one; and, please let us know what the overnights show on your "RFK `Obama's going to be shot if elected' mistake." Evidentally, it may work out, yet.

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr. | May 25, 2008 8:16 PM

For those of you who are sincerely wondering why the flap... I read less than thirty posts on this blog, and two of them...well, you take a look:

"I complete faith that a country that 'clings to guns & religion' will find away to ensure Barack Hussien Obama isn't our next President. One way or the other."

"Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it."

I would ask you to consider the consequences of Sen. Clinton's reference in light of statements like these. Please. Please...

And my hope is that the FBI is contacted by the Washington Post; while veiled threats, granted, they are still threats on Barack's life nonetheless.

Posted by: Barbyrah | May 25, 2008 8:17 PM

If the Dems lose this election, after such an unpopular president, how can Howard Dean defend his performance as chairman?

Posted by: scarlet | May 25, 2008 8:17 PM

I hate to say this... but I really don't care anymore who wins! I just want this whole election over with. I think it's gone on far too long and it will result in no change at all. Like one candidate can change everything... yea right. Like Clinton is really experience... yea right. Like McCain is old... ok so that's true. Honestly, I just want regular TV back on!!!

Posted by: TVWatcherinWA | May 25, 2008 8:18 PM

Ret.Combatvet (he says) above:

The story was all over the wires, with flames, before Bill Burton ever was asked about it.

The New York Post had it on the wires first, almost immediately. And it raced widely immediately.

Whoever you are, or claim to be, you might wish to shut up unless you know what you're talking about. Or trying to mislead, whichever it is.

Posted by: false | May 25, 2008 8:19 PM

i expect that the Super-delegates, realizing that Clinton has become clinically mentally ill will pledge to Obama. Hillary's supporters are going to have some impact on the nominee anyway, but we might as well get the Hilde-Beast out-of-the-way sooner rather than later.

Posted by: tanaS | May 25, 2008 8:19 PM

so little hussein obama wants to make a big deal of this while telling us it was ok for him to assiciate with murdering terrorists from the 60's because they happen to live in his neighborhood and he had to associate with them.
so a white politician who assiciates with a member of the kkk - not counting senator byrd, or the nazi party or the white arian resistance, that would be ok and no blacks would complain, if the excuse was that they lived in the neighboorhood and they needed to talk and go into their homes for fund raisers BECAUSE THEY LIVED IN THE HOOD?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:19 PM

McAuliffe needs to go climb under a rock.

Posted by: Sara B. | May 25, 2008 8:20 PM

what about the issues??? who supports what? what are the contrasts? does anyone even know anymore? i believe the comparison with former Pres. Clinton and J.F.K. comment was intended to remind voters only that Senator Clinton is still very much in the race who has a chance to win provided this person is given equal opportunity till then. Senator Obama, while there is little known about him globally, is a very interesting and decent human being. Good luck to both. from what is released and reported, the media is questionable.

Posted by: david | May 25, 2008 8:20 PM

IN TERMS OF vp, IT IS CONCLUSIVE THAT HILLARY CLINTON HAS MOVED OFF THE SHORTLIST, OFF THE LONG LIST AND HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE LIST THAT GOES IN THE DUST-BINS OF HISTORY. BESIDES THOSE WHO FAIL TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES, I CAN'T SEE SO MANY PEOPLE SUPPORTING HRC IF SHE WERE TO RUN AGAIN... SHE HAS RULED HERSELF OUT!

IT IS TIME FOR THE SUPERDELEGATES TO SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR CONCERNS, AND MAKE THE HEART-WARMING MOVE TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA....ITS TIME!!!

Posted by: OUTSIDER | May 25, 2008 8:21 PM

There is NO point to Hillary continuing to stir up the racial divided! She should be STOPPED. She DANGEROUS!

Posted by: Sher | May 25, 2008 8:21 PM

Aside from the latest attempts to cover up for her blunder,
Sen Clinton says nothing about the taking of the Constitution by the Bush regime.
Obama will restore our rights: to be charged with an actual crime, before being taken away, restore our right to see the evidence, and restore our right to cross examine witnesses.

Her 'game' is to play the middle of the road on terror-politics as a political exercise, in awe of the Fox news attacks and the swift boat attacks.

Her appeal to women to support her solely on the basis of their shared past travails is demagoguery.

I am grateful for this latest round of mistakes, because now we can have a woman VP other than Clinton, without the threat of offending her supporters.

I think Sen Clair McCaskill of Mizzou is much better qualified than Clinton ever could be. Check this out, please women of the USA:
Claire McCaskill, worked her way thru college and law school.
Work in prosecutor's office. Became lead prosecutor for Kansas City, MO.
Served as multi-term state legislator. Served as State of MO auditor for which she received high praise. Then Claire McCaskill became Governor of Mizzou, demonstrating executive and leadership abilities. Now US Senator. She is well spoken.
There are others.
Dianne Feinstein. Supervisor of SF, Mayor of SF, two term US Senator.
All on her own.
Barbara Boxer, several terms in House of Representatives, two term US Senator.
All on her own.
All three of these women did it all and they did it without Bill Clinton campaigning for them.

I dont count being First Lady as holding an 'office' even though the Clintons want us to.

Posted by: bruce becker | May 25, 2008 8:22 PM

I just finished watching 60 Minutes; what a refreshing change!! Journalism at it's best. I have not watched it in years, since cable news 24/7 was so "informative". There was an excellent segment profiling the young adults of today when they enter the workplace. It helped to confirm my theories. This demographic that is propelling Obama to nomination and that is ranting and raving on the blog sites is, indeed, flawed. They grew up believing they are "special" and have their Moms and Dads running interference for them in the workplace and even voting the way their "kids" want. There are special management strategies employed now to get them to work, to perform, because the "old way" just does not work anymore. We will encounter them in the workplace as consumers and we will know them when we see them. This is the new norm. I will work as hard as I can to get John McCain elected to delay the demise of my country for as long as I can until my cognizant powers render me unaware of my surroundings. They know nothing of "old style politics"; they were camped out on My Space and U-Tube for the past 8 years, watching "Friends" and "Sex In The City". One has to wonder why, in the past 8 years, they were never motivated or inspired to become activists against the corruption and incompetence of this Administration; the attempts to destroy the Right To Privacy, the Constitution, and the Justice Dept....the only thing that apparently moves you is the existence of a woman who is a contender and who has "the audacity to challenge" your idol. The good thing is, your profiling indicates you have no staying power. Just as you are easily swayed, you are easily made bored and move on to the next thing. Thank you, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood!

Posted by: nana4 | May 25, 2008 8:22 PM

Gee, who could have predicted this one. Clinton says something completely tasteless and then accuses the Obama campaign of making it worse. Tomorrow they will attribute her statements to Obama. Earth to Superdelegates: Will you please show a little backbone and get rid of HRC and her dysfunctional husband while we still have a chance to win in November.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:22 PM

Its time Obama camp rein in their media lapdogs and proxies for the sake of unity of democratic party epspecially when its somewhat obvious that Obama is going to be the nominee.Vitriol spewed by these people will only alienate Clinton supporters further.Any one with half a brain cell know that Clinton,however a ruthless fighter she may be,wouldnt have had Sen Obama in her mind when she mentioned RFK.This is just a political spin aimed at silencing Sen Clinton but probably too late in the primary cycle when its almost over (in Obamas favour-impossible to take away nomination from an AA candidate at this stage in my opinion) and can backfire.I myself,a Clinton leaning independant,will still vote for Obama but believe me I know many people are are extremely ticked off by these tactics and may not vote for Obama even at the risk of a third Bush term.

Posted by: Joan | May 25, 2008 8:23 PM

I am an Obama precinct captain and delegate to the Iowa state convention. ANYONE who saw the tape of Clinton's comments can obviously see that she was simply referring to the timeline and NOTHING ELSE! I am EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED that barack has not forcefully defended her and told all of the bashers to climb back under their rocks. the press, while ignoring our 46 TRILLION dollar long term debt, our worthless dollar, and an upcoming economic debacle, continues to harp about quotes taken out of context and what ministers say. We are not a serious people and we deserve the grim fate that awaits us!

Posted by: Ron Orf | May 25, 2008 8:23 PM

After 3 days of this RFK assassination talk in the MSM and even the Obama campaign saying it is time to "put it behind us," it is NO SECRET that this is the type of bias that CLINTON has had to deal with since before IOWA has greatly affected this race.

If the MSM had reported the news in this election cycle instead of creating it with their own bias the results of this election would also be VERY DIFFERENT.


THink about it, CLinton made the remark because she was being pressured by the media to end her campaign which is highly undemocratic. SHe said that past campaigns have lasted longer than this years past JUNE and that included the election year RFK was assassinated in, SHe apologized right after and clarafied and that should have been the end of it. But the media has intentionally using this story to continue attacking her for political purposes that are unforgivable and CLinton supporters will not forget about this in NOVEMBER!

Posted by: Patrick | May 25, 2008 8:23 PM

Ms Clinton has consistently misrepresented facts, skewed events to her advantage and just plain lied. How the American Public could possibly vote for this woman who apparently believes she is entitled to the Presidency, is beyond me. However, as a 40 year Democrate, I can asssure the Party I wouldn't vote for her if she was the last candidate on earth.

Posted by: dpb | May 25, 2008 8:24 PM

Posted by: | May 25, 2008 8:10 PM
Since you were a coward not to print your name, I'll comment on your post by the time you posted.
So, you think Obama is the least of the three? McCain was number 894 of 899 in his Naval academy class. He obtained his flight status by nepotism; he promptly wrecked 4 planes before he was shot down. And he was a North Vietnam collaborator:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/smith_mc.htm
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm
Hillary failed the bar exam. Her major policy initiative, health care, was a colossal failure.
Obama? Editor of the Law Review at Harvard; Taught constitutional law.
And oh by the way, Obama is the only one smart enough to keep his campaign out of the red . Hillary still hasn't paid her bills, and McCain depends on his wife for financial assistance.
Get your facts straight.

Posted by: Walt | May 25, 2008 8:24 PM

Only in Clinton politics can you make an outrageous remark and then blame the other side for creating the outrage.

Posted by: Dennis in Az | May 25, 2008 8:24 PM

Regardless of Hillary's intent, referencing the assassination of a fellow presidential candidate while you yourself can only win if the another presidential candidate is removed from the race is dangerous. Perhaps even criminal.

There are laws that prevent public officials from inciting violence from their public positions.

If Hillary did not mean on any level that Obama could still be removed from this race by some "unknown" reasons - including her example of assassination - well then she is simply an incompetent official unfit for public office.

There is absolutely no excuse for a statement like this. None.

I would recommend that Clinton supporters take this as an opportunity to reevaluate their choice. I'm not saying switch to Obama - just reevaluate Clinton. McCain, Obama, Barr, Nadar, Bloomberg, Mickey Mouse. Whoever.

Don't stoop down and try to defend these statements either. There is nothing to defend. Simply accept the fact that she said those words including "assassinated" as a reason why she should continue waiting in the wings.

You don't have to feel bad about your prior support for the Clinton's either. I don't. They were great. But now they are what they are. And it's less than great to say the least.

Posted by: Jim Jones | May 25, 2008 8:27 PM

Posted by: truth is better than fiction | May 25, 2008 7:26 PM

To Foriegner
We elected George Bush not once but twice. It appears the reason most of the world hates the US leaders but loves Americans is because with all the best of intentions we simply continue to act like high school students electing the most popular not the most capable.
Hopefully this election will change that.

WOW WHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVING IN, AMERICANS ARE THE MOST HATED PEOPLE ON THE PLANET NOT JUST YOUR LEADER.

Had to shout that because you and the rest of your wacko friends posting up here just do not get it. Your country is racist, bigoted and full of yourself.

Now after saying that , you fortunately are the minority and the MAJORITY of your country men/women are not, they are honest hard working folks who just want a better life for the next generation.

The comments here and on other sites are for the most part very ugly and self centered. Both candidates are very closely matched in their beliefs and in this case only one will win. The nomination that is; because you and your party have divided the country into race and sex, you have put civil rights and equity for all back at least 100 years.

Well done and god help this planet for condeming us to another 4 years of the tyrany of the GW Bush years, the face will change but the hatred for your country will continue to grow around the globe.

you had better start praying that the trillions in foreign debt does not get called in as have other bad loans (example the mortgage fiasco) or you may have a new leader but not one of your choosing.

Posted by: a concerned forigner | May 25, 2008 8:27 PM

As all too often has been the case during the campaign, the Clinton advisers don't know when it's a really excellent time to keep their yaps shut, and succeed only at making it worse for their candidate.

Posted by: KPinSEA | May 25, 2008 8:27 PM

Just when I thought she could not get any worse. I just can not believe than "on the record", she implies that should Obama would not be there (as RFK was not), she would be ready for action! Is that a wish? Is she trying to persuade someone to do something evil? I understand that that may go through her mind, but why say it? I hope this is the last we see of this candidate. I was hoping to see a woman in the White House but unfortunately we will have to wait for a more suitable one.

Posted by: JdA | May 25, 2008 8:27 PM

No apology for increasing the assassination risk for Obama? Hillary Clinton is vile, despicable and seemingly mentally unblanced. The sooner the Clintons are run out of politics, the better.

Posted by: CWatson1 | May 25, 2008 8:28 PM

You know -- all the gamesmanship aside -- if Robert Kennedy had lived, and been nominated, and been elected -- which could have happened -- history would have been very different and this might be a very different nation today. Just for starters, Vietnam might have ended five or six years earlier, and there would have been no Watergate.

On the other hand, would we have had detente with Russia and China? The EPA? OSHA? It's hard to know.

Anyway -- RFK was a decent and high-minded man, a strong intellect, and an inspirational leader. His loss was tragic, and this political nitpicking is beneath his legacy and his memory. Instead of this back and forth sniping and game-playing around the current political contests, we could go back and take a look at that man's example and his message, and learn from them. We would be a lot wiser for it -- just as we would be better off if he, in those days, had been given the protection that the present crop of candidates have.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: pressF1 | May 25, 2008 8:28 PM

Hillary Clinton's campaign has proven her totally unfit to be a U.S. Senator -- let alone President.

Posted by: jfarris7 | May 25, 2008 8:29 PM

jefblack,
I am beginning to suspect that this Florida and Michigan situation was purposely set up, to be executed in Clinton's favor, if necessary.

If Clinton had done enourmously well as to have made the outcome indisputable, this would be a non-issue.

What if it was put in place to give her the needed delegate count?

Obama wasn't even on one of the ballots.

As you may have read somewhere, McCauliff and others have intimated that the decision by Dean and DNC may not end it. It appears the only decsion that will be acceptable to the Clinton team will be awarding the delegates to her, or talking Obama into conceding.

I see Obama conceding in support of party unity.

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 8:30 PM

People have a short memory.When Bill Clinton was President Mrs Clinton became an embarassement to the administration wuth her self appointed role as health care guru.Noone in their serious political mind supported her and finally she was asked by the administration to just "lay off": and be the First lady.Mr.Clinton was a weak(trying to please everyone)President who excelled in having oral sex.There is nothing new these days so where is the change shes talking about and her qualifications????Give me a break America.Bush is a Jerk,we want change not someone who is jerkier.

Posted by: jlp | May 25, 2008 8:31 PM

You people need to quit worrying about imaginary threats on the empty suit and try to figure out how the empty suit is going to win Pennsylvania,Ohio,Florida,West Virginia,Michigan and other swing states that a democrat has to win to get elected.I don't care how many blacks vote for him in the south because he will not take a single southern state away from the republicans.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 8:31 PM

Hillary they along with the mass media ( no matter how many times Matthews and Keith and their flunkies at MSNBC deny it) they have been trying to push you out of this race since Iowa. Hang in their girl what this party needs is a fighter remember Ted Kennedy never gave a conession speach when he ran against Carter and the party Loves him today.Also remind them that this is not the first time the dem's came out in droves during a primary the 1972 primary brought out more Dem's than this one and remember that result Mc Govern lost 49 states

Posted by: nick1936 | May 25, 2008 8:31 PM

MISSING ETHICS AND MORALS IN SOME DEMOCRATS!


Even though I live so far from the US here in Brazil I don't need to leave to know what is happening there. The globalized market and economy is very much dependent on the good functioning of the US economy.

We all want a democrat to win in the November elections with the hopeful outcome of improving the US economy. We are concerned about the divisions in the democratic party for such trivial reasons as the ambitions of some and the apparent absence of ethics and morality in the political stage causing pain and hatred to grow amongst some voters.

Now is not the time for petty differences and prejudice which cause such division... Now is the time for the party to unite! Each one of us needs to let go of our ego and preconceptions turning our support to the democratic candidate that has led in the primaries. The rules are the rules. You can't change them now. It's not ethical and it's not moral.

The two candidates are intelligent, well educated and well prepared. Both have great support from their teams and they would both be good for their country. It is not written on their foreheads that one is better than the other: Nobody can predict what the future holds.

For example, look at what is what is happening now. When Hillary Clinton began her campaign for to be President she and her supporters saw an easy victory in the primaries but in fact that has not materialized. That was a poor strategy for beginning a campaign and now they find themselves in debt and desperate. Nobody knows the future! We always need to carefully calculate our risks and count on luck.

It's undeniable that the Barack Obama was an all around better candidate. He was unknown to the majority of Americans and he knew to use his anonymity to his advantage. He showed the world wonderful qualities such as respect for rules, his abilities as a good listener and excellent speaker. He demonstrated that he is a very good strategist and campaign manager along with his ability to deal with the verbal attacks of his opponents and his ability as a negotiator conquering all sides through dialogue.

It is sad, ethically and morally that those who supported Hillary in the primary say that they won't support Obama should he become nominated. This will, later on, prove to be a grave error. It has been eight years of the nonsense and absurdity of the Bush presidency only to see the image of the USA declining into negativity. Obama wining the election in November places democrats in power and raises the hope of change for every one of us...

The world needs many Obama sowing peace, love, hopes, changes, union of races, union of the Americas... We want USA selling dream and magic to the world again and never selling weapons and wars as always make the republicans...

The Brazil and the Americas are with you, Obama!

Dalmo de Souza Gomes
05/23/2008

Posted by: Dalmo de Souza Gomes | May 25, 2008 8:32 PM

I would ask you to consider the consequences of Sen. Clinton's reference in light of statements like these. Please. Please...

And my hope is that the FBI is contacted by the Washington Post; while veiled threats, granted, they are still threats on Barack's life nonetheless.

Posted by: Barbyrah | May 25, 2008 8:17 PM

I can't believe democrats actually think like this. Your right, while they weren't out right threats, they still say something to the character of the individuals posting them.

My hunch is that Clinton supporters, including the ones that posted the veiled threats, are simply lashing out at the fact, that the candidate of their choice is seeing her last gasp opportunity slip away, especially after a comment like this.

These Clinton supporters are causing only more harm to their candidate by posting such trash.

Posted by: Allan | May 25, 2008 8:32 PM

To Jessica,

To quote you, "White people don't want him."

I am saddened by people like you. And, yes, white people do want Obama."

I am a white, middle-aged woman.

There is a clear choice in the democratic nomination race:

Barack Obama who has incredible integrity, leadership skills and courage under fire.

Or

Hillary Clinton who was fired for being a liar and dishonest, unethical lawyer, and has been on a course of serial lies ever since; who is the most divisiveness politician in our collective memory, and blames everyone but herself for her failures.

The choice is obvious.

To vote for someone because of the colour of his/her skin or because he/she is a man or a woman is the height of ignorance.

You, as well as everyone else on this earth belong to one "race." Each and everyone of us is descended from a band of humans who migrated out of Africa and spread over the world.

To vote for a woman just because she is a woman, despite her having thrown integrity to the wind a long time ago brings shame on all women who fought so hard for equality for women.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 8:32 PM


If the democratic party doesn't do

SOMEthing to stop this ugliness, they don't
deserve to lead this country.

There are no nastier, ugly thugs than Bill and Hillary Clinton and their little claque of "New Yorkers" and money raisers .

It will sound retrograde to wish for civil,
decent people to run this country, but wouldn't it be nice? Not to mention help assure our future.

No wonder everone hates us. We're as civil as the Israelis.

Posted by: tired | May 25, 2008 8:32 PM

No Shame!!
NO SHame?
NO SHAme!!!
NO SHAMe????

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How Do They Sleep???????

Posted by: ncsteve | May 25, 2008 8:32 PM

Poor Hillary saying her comments were taken out of context. Admit it, if George Bush were to make a similar comment she would be all over him, accusing him of being evil. But Hillary thinks because she said it it is OK.

Posted by: David | May 25, 2008 8:32 PM

Whew!! Such vitriol between peoples of the same nation, bodes ill for the future. We're not going to come out of this well.

Posted by: Stunned in Ft. Wayne | May 25, 2008 8:33 PM

im a man..but for many years i've said we need a woman for president. and i still believe that to this day..but i dont think Hillary is the woman we need..we need someone who wont bring controversy to the white house as the clintons did for 8 yrs.Barack is the democrat we need he cares about people and has run a clean campaign with out mudslinging as the other cadidates have..We now have had 1 current cadiate(Hillary) and 1 previous candidate(Huckabee) makeing refrence to a assination of Obama. I am also from arkansas and Hillary and Huckabee make me embarassed to be an arkansan. and the both make me embarassed to be an american..

Posted by: Hillary_Sux | May 25, 2008 8:33 PM

Can someone please tell me why we are supposed to tip-toe around the fact that 13% of persons in the US over the age of 65 have Alzheimer's, when it comes to McCain's half-baked release of medical records. He wouldnt let the NY TImes reporter review the records at all. The NY TImes guy has an MD degree.
And they said about this medical report that McCain has not had ANY neurological medical considerations in years.

That is another way of saying, that they did not do any testing for short term memory loss in many years, AND that they didnt do the latest available testing for 'incipient' Alzheimers ever, which can now tell if a person as young as 55 is likely to get it in the near future.
No testing for short term memory loss and no testing for Alzheimers. What a great report!! And the reporters from the pool were allowed three hours to go over over 1000 pages of material and none of them were MDs.
Whitewash. REPUBLICANS: Demand that McCain take the best current tests for incipient Alzheimer's and short term memory loss BEFORE he is confirmed as a nominee. This is possibly worse than Senator Eagleton. At least Eagleton was on the wagon when it was determined that he had had trouble as an alcoholic in his past. We are in the present and we can all see that McCain needs Leibermann to cover for his memory issues.
In the Senate he is known as 'not a detail man' - a polite way of saying, he sometimes forgets why he went to the cloak room. He claimed two weeks ago that he had never had a conversation with a particular Senator about the new GI BIll.
The Senator says they talked in person, three times about that bill. Is McCain lying or forgetting?
I bet he forgot. He doesnt seem like a liar, does he?

Posted by: bruce becker | May 25, 2008 8:34 PM

I have to comment on this whole business of "The media is pressuring Clinton to leave the race."

If Clinton can't stand up to a group of media pin heads, how in the heck is she going to stand up to our enemies?

Such is the dichotomy of the Clintons.
- We're strong enough. Stop picking on me!
- Ready on day one. Why do I always get the first questions?
- I've got what it takes. I was tired when I misspoke about Bosnian snipers.
- I'm the one who know the pressures of the presidency. I was tired when I suggested remaining in the race in case the other candidate gets, you know, assassinated.

In other words, if a President Hillary Clinton is going to keep buckling under pressure and suggest dangerous and life threatening situations every time she has less than a full night's sleep and too many dissenting voices, then she has absolutely no business running and defending our country. Period.

This isn't racism, sexism, or pressure to leave. This is a horrendous taboo unparalleled in modern American politics.

Posted by: Media Pressure | May 25, 2008 8:34 PM

The Clintons need to be swept from public office. Bill's actions in the White House with Monica, then his subsequent lies regarding it show what what kind of person he was. Hillary's actions during this campaign have been no better, from lying about being sniped at, to constantly blaming her own mistakes on someone else. It's time to put the Clintons in our past.

Posted by: JC | May 25, 2008 8:35 PM

Hey guys, calm down.

I think the facts clearly show Hillary never implied she was associating the assassination of Robert Kennedy with Obama.

I think the facts clearly show Obama never meant to distort Hillary's record on this.

I think the facts DO show, there were some in both the Hillary and Obama camps that wanted to use this for their personal benefit.

You can't control everyone, guys. Stop the bickering and let's support whoever is nominated... please!

What the facts DO show, is that we need to unite. It is the followers that are demeaning each other.

We actually have two good candidates who would both work hard to reverse the evil and corruption done by this administration.

Never forget that!

Posted by: TruthSeekers | May 25, 2008 8:35 PM

obama is good for the media...but very very bad for this country...
this nation should be led by well experienced and able president...surely its not obama.

Posted by: allan beltran | May 25, 2008 8:35 PM

Yes, it's obvious that Hillary is mentally ill now. The super-delegates need to act immediately. Nothing is worth the ridicule of having an unbalanced candidate running against the obvious nominee.

Posted by: tanaS | May 25, 2008 8:35 PM

The GOP-owned mainstream media's rabid desperate attempts to make this into something it is not has already begun to backfire, and backfire big. Really, if you guys want to run against "can't-win" Obama in the fall, CHILL. You're doing nothing more than rallying Hillary's troops when you outright lie and blow innocent comments out of all proprotion.

Word.

Posted by: xbjllb | May 25, 2008 8:36 PM

All it was - was word association - You think of June, previous primaries, ah, Bobby Kennedy assassinated ... so what? What's the big deal, well, there were millions of people watching Bobby in LA on TV.

I was watching it myself in Tallahassee - it was early in the morning....and excitement was in the air like electricity, Wow! Bobby's going to be president. Wow! Then a minute later as he's walking through the kitchen - BAM he's on the floor. We cried.

Obama does not even have 10% of the charisma Bobby had. But so what? That's how word association works.

Posted by: alance | May 25, 2008 8:37 PM

not to worry.

June 4th, the 60 uncomitted people from Congress will join the Speaker of the House and come out for Obama.

She is just being polite to the voters of Montana and South Dakota as she promised, to let everyone participate.

As things are, he will only be about 15-24 vote short on June 24th.

Posted by: bruce becker | May 25, 2008 8:37 PM

To The Washington Post: Please delete the posting below by "BHO is a criminal" I also think the author of that post should be reported to the FBI and Secret Service. Comments like these should NOT be allowed.

"Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it.

Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM"

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 8:38 PM

What do they mean that the Obama campaign "circulated a TV commentary criticizing them [her words]?"

I never saw any TV commentary. Anyone know what they're talking about?

Not that Hillary would NEED any excuse to stay in the race (because she can invent them handilly as she goes), but it doesn't sound like Obama's campaign when I hear they're fanning flames.

Posted by: aBigSAM | May 25, 2008 8:39 PM

What planet does these people live on??

I guess the Obama camp are the ONLY folks who thought the comments were ghoulish... please!

I'm actually glad that they are blaming the Obama camp because this will only make it that much more impossible for her to ever be the VP candidate.

Goodbye to the wicked witch and her flying monkeys!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:40 PM

give me an f'in break!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:40 PM

To Dalmo de Souza Gomes

I suggest you read about Hillary Clinton's background before you venture an opinion that she would be "good for the country."

That has been the problem in this nomination race. People have not bothered to read and do the necessary research about each candidate, particularly Hillary Clinton.

Had Democrats taken the time to find out the facts about the Clinton scandals and Hillary's lies, Barack Obama would now be the nominee.

And, by the way, I have done extensive research on each candidate. The choice is very clear: the candidate with the integrity and leadership skills -- Barack Obama.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 8:40 PM

To those asking that the posts from these users should be deleted because they are crossing the line:

The Real Truth
Hill&Bill
BHO is a criminal
His time is about up!

NO! These nutcases exist, we shouldn't hide the fact that this is being said. This is exactly why Clinton shouldn't have brought up the subject. Censoring such comments and pretending that people of this mindset do not exist out there would in fact take from the debate.

Should the people behind these user names face investigation/prosecution if they've crossed a legal line? Absolutely. And their comments should remain on the record.

Posted by: Slim | May 25, 2008 8:41 PM

I am a Catholic female over 50 and I am voting for Barack Hussein Obama because he is the authentic candidate of high moral character and integrity. Hillary Rodham Clinton is a lying witch who cries sexism and being misunderstood whenever she doesn't get her way. The last time she got her way was when she agreed to the Democratic Party's Delegate Selection Plan. She was led to believe that the nomination would be delivered to her in short order. A better opponent showed up and now she's reduced to appealing to the bigot vote.

Posted by: D.S. Payne | May 25, 2008 8:41 PM

All the Clinton supporters who vote for McCain are dumb or lying.

Your dumb because you rather go against your core principles in disguise of being sore loosers.

You think that will go unanswered in 2013. Clinton is finished. The country is tired of Bush/Clinton. It's time to move forward.

Besides, we know who she really is, there will be other candidates to vote for in 2013.

It doesn't matter though. Obama will be our next president. Suck on that Ferraro, Clinton and McAuliffe.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:41 PM

Obama- an Antichrist We Can Believe In

Consider his sexual rockstar status among voters, his ability to continuously lie without impunity, his connections to mob members and terrorist both real and wannabes. His strong and unscrupulous desire for raw power, at any cost, regardless what it does to others, (he became senator simply by disqualifying his opponents). His empty words and changing promises, his desire to be friends with those who wish to destroy us. His wife Michele has expressed her hatred for this country and has publicly announced her husband as the messiah.

The voodoo of this all is that Teflon Obama remains unscathed by all his nefarious connections and thug like history. He is worshiped not only blindly by the mindless masses, but by the fearful media.

I am not very religious, but I think Nostradamus got it right again. What is God going to think of all the lemmings that follow a man of darkness?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:42 PM

We all know what Hillary said. She wants Obama dead! If you think that her message has been taken out of context, then, that's another Clinton coming up with another meaning of "June"!

Posted by: Paul | May 25, 2008 8:42 PM

Julie:
"Hillary can say whatever she wants, irregardless I will never vote for a political thug like Obama."

Yeah, especially when he says things like, "sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here. Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offence by it and I will take her at her word on that"

Such a horrible thug.

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 8:42 PM

bevvyjean
if the talk, as u claim,of the obama sex and drugs comments are on the internet,then,chances are they are not true..

Thank you for telling us about the lastest false rumors on BHO,that we know not to listen to..

You have done a wonderful service..

Posted by: the truth | May 25, 2008 8:43 PM

Wow! I am so shocked and riveted that Hillary Clinton has finally punched back at Obama's hypocritical, mud-slinging campaign tactic of the candidate behaving one way while his campaign and surrogates behave like street thugs and sleaze-attack dogs!

It took a few months, but Clinton finally spoke out about this street-gang campaign tactic of Obama's, which belies his fatuous campaign promises of loftier tone in politics and healing divisions.

For months, the Obama campaign has been engaging in the most vicious, no-holds-barred, slugfest, dirty campaign against Clinton and her family -- even to the point of targeting Chelsea. Obama speaks in Pollyannish generalities whilst his campaign kicks, stabs, rolls in the mud and hate mongers. The press has known about this all along, but has sat on the information much as it sat on the Rev. Wright material for months.

Clinton finally called a spade a spade. No matter what happens to her now, I'm behind her 100 percent. I can't imagine how she will win the poisonous attacks that will come her way now, especially from irrationally biased media outlets like the Washington Post and MSNBC. But she did what she had to do and I respect her for it.

I'm sending another small donation her way tonight.

www.hillaryclinton.com

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 25, 2008 8:45 PM

Hey guys, calm down.

I think the facts clearly show Hillary never implied she was associating the assassination of Robert Kennedy with Obama.

I think the facts clearly show Obama never meant to distort Hillary's record on this.

I think the facts DO show, there were some in both the Hillary and Obama camps that wanted to use this for their personal benefit.

You can't control everyone, guys. Stop the bickering and let's support whoever is nominated... please!

What the facts DO show, is that we need to unite. It is the followers that are demeaning each other.

We actually have two good candidates who would both work hard to reverse the evil and corruption done by this administration.

Never forget that!

Posted by: TruthSeekers | May 25, 2008 8:46 PM

The irony is Clinton's reason for staying in the race is her own demise.

"The anything can happen", just happened to her.

Say good night Hill. Say good night Bill.

Posted by: AAA | May 25, 2008 8:46 PM

Hillary, we are sure that you will win the final victory, come on, support you forever!

Posted by: Ricky | May 25, 2008 8:46 PM

WENDELL:
"You people need to quit worrying about imaginary threats on the empty suit and try to figure out how the empty suit is going to win Pennsylvania,Ohio,Florida,West Virginia,Michigan and other swing states that a democrat has to win to get elected."

FYI, while there's still a long way to go, Obama was polling ahead of McCain in PA and Ohio last time I checked.

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 8:47 PM

to "Walt":

"Since you were a coward not to print your name ..."

Nobody here has posted by their actual, full name, including you. Many of us who work in the media are not permitted by our employers to post opinions to blogs.


"So, you think Obama is the least of the three?"

In terms of his "performance" in the Senate, Obama is far and away the least of the three. He sits there like a bump on a log -- when he's there at all.

" McCain was number 894 of 899 in his Naval academy class."

Basic commons sense should tell you that people's grades in school are not always an indicator of every kind of skill -- or even most skills. If we were going to choose a president in the way you seem to be suggesting, then we could skip the debates and speeches and simply compare transcripts.

"He obtained his flight status by nepotism; he promptly wrecked 4 planes before he was shot down. And he was a North Vietnam collaborator"

That is a lie, propagated by the far right wing of the GOP. I'm surprised an Obama supporter would repeat it.

"Hillary failed the bar exam."

If Hillary had failed the bar exam, she wouldn't have been permitted to practice law. For you information, Michelle Obama also failed the bar exam the first time she took it. Hillary made the mistake of taking two separate bar exams within days of each other. She passed one of them, failed the second.

"Her major policy initiative, health care, was a colossal failure."

It won't fail if she gets another chance. Obama has no health care plan. A plan that isn't universal is not worth the hot air Obama expends on it.

"Obama? Editor of the Law Review at Harvard"

He was President of it, not "editor." And he got that position via a brokered deal.


" Taught constitutional law."

Not impressed. Constitutional law is confined to the theoretical. I'd be more impressed had Obama been a litigator.

"And oh by the way, Obama is the only one smart enough to keep his campaign out of the red."

That's not Obama's smarts. Those smarts belong to David Axelrod, and the guys from Citicorp and Goldman Sachs. Obama maxed out on his credit cards and needed Rezko's help buying Stately Wayne Manor.

"Hillary still hasn't paid her bills"

She'll pay them.

"..and McCain depends on his wife for financial assistance."

And Kennedy's campaign was financed by his rich bootlegging, antisemitic Daddy. I really don't care if McCain is getting money from his wife. If Obama is the Democratic candidate, I'm voting for McC.
Get your facts straight.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:47 PM

Anyone notice it's not Hillary making these accusations about Obama, but McCauliffe? Just like Obama didn't circulate the story about the assassination comment, but Axelrod? Everyone take a deep breath.

Hillary made a stupid remark, one that she definitely shouldn't have but was unintentional. She gave an explanation of it that jibes with the video, the context, her intonation, etc. Obama accepted it, much to his credit. He didn't pounce on it and tear her to shreds over it the way Clinton did over his bitter remark (which, IIRC, had nothing to do with taking anyone's life). That's it. Move on. It's tempting to give the people who've been twisting Obama's words out of context a bit of their own medicine, but it accomplishes nothing. One candidate made a goof, the other accepted her explanation. The rest is pure horse$#!t.

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 25, 2008 8:47 PM

Clinton will make a fine Duchess of Appalacha.

Posted by: BobBarr | May 25, 2008 8:49 PM

TruthSeekers - You said it a lot better than me. Dead on (so to speak).

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 25, 2008 8:49 PM

i have not respect for the clintons anymore..i was routing for the vp spot for her ..now..i hope they just disappear from the scene all together..i have seen obama have to give hillary pass after pass..when she was hammering him on everything..when she was piling up with everyone else..gest go away.

Posted by: Judy | May 25, 2008 8:50 PM

I support Barack Obama.

I don't happen to think Hillary Clinton had any evil intent when she made her remarks; rather, she used very poor judgement. Not the first time. Too dangerous to contemplate in the world of international affairs.

What is highly significant about the video is Hillary Clinton's complete and utter denial about having lost the race. That kind of delusion is very scary. She has lost touch with reality. Again, too dangerous to contemplate in a president of the most powerful nation on earth.

She told the interviewer she did not know why people wanted her out of the race.

Let me tell you very clearly why, Mrs. Clinton. Because you have lost the race, and your nasty brand of politics is playing havoc with the Democrats' chances of winning the election. People do not want you as president. It is that simple.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 8:50 PM

The Washington Post article has failed to provide the information that supports Clinton's accusations that Obama was feeding misinterpretation of her comments and that he was trying to stoke the controversy.

Among other things they did, Obama's campaign was sending Keith Olbermann's mentally ill, paranoid rant about Clinton around to reporters as a press release, while Obama was saying that he wasn't going to read anything into her worlds.

As usual, the Washington Post is misreporting and selectively reporting information to support its use of its media outlet for partisan purposes.

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 25, 2008 8:50 PM

What is this? "Good news or bad news: at least they're talking about you?"

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 8:51 PM

McCain's camp has got to love all of this. Hillary is turning a sure loss for the Republicans into a possible victory thinking she will be supported in 4 years. I'd be willing to bet even if McCain was to win (and I still think Obama will), that NO ONE will support her in 4 yrs. Heck! She'll still be too far in debt to run!

Posted by: Stuart | May 25, 2008 8:51 PM

It seems amazing that she doesn't see the need to apologize to
the Obama family--to his wife who I am sure is terrified something
could happen to him, not to mention his little girls who must
be scared also. That anyone can believe that this was not
contrived is also amazing. It is much easier for her to plant this
little seed which grows into fear on everyone's part and then to
innocently apologize. There must be others out there who have
discovered that she looks down and her eyebrows go up when she
is not telling the truth. Take a look.

Posted by: Hopefloats | May 25, 2008 8:53 PM

I cannot believe there are still people out there that would support a person who cries and complains about the press putting to much presure on her and moderators asking her the first question too many times. Hillary - a person who cannot remember if she was under sniper fire. A woman who cannot take responsibility for her own actions, a woman who has lied about being under sniper fire on multiple occasions. A person who felt the people were being sexist against her. A person who has misrun her camapaign into the ground and is in debt. A person who has convinced poor white america that she can relate to you. Hillary has millions! Wake up folks, cause none of those people running can truly relate to the poor. These candidates have for the better part been tied to large sums of money their entire careers. At least choose someone who appears to be honest enough to help the poor. Hillary has millions and way say whatever it takes for you to vote for ger. This is a weak flawed women who says she will obliterate countries. That sounds like a nutjob to me.

And as for the racist white, black, or whatever color you might be. I ask you all - can you feel it? Your racist ideals are dying. Your mind-set is becoming old and obsolete. This country cannot move forward with backwards thinkers voting for more untruthful backwards thinkers.

Posted by: Mr. America | May 25, 2008 8:53 PM

More bellyaching from the Clintons. It's been Bill's theme throughout--"If only [insert complaint here], she'd be winning." The responsibility is never the candidate's or her team's--It's the nasty Obama, or the biased media, or the unfair delegate selection process, or the rampant sexism, or the unseating of Michigan and Florida. Something new everyday. Even with RFK, her 'apology' was of the 'I'm sorry if you took offense' variety, not the 'I'm sorry I made a mistake' variety. This constant blame-seeking never ends with the flaws of the candidate herself--her poor organizational skill, her lack of rhetorical polish, her inability to stick with a theme or tone or issue, her history of untrustworthiness, her wavering on whether she is running as the first female candidate or gender doesn't matter at all, her awful judgment on Iraq and failure to own up to it, her bellicose statements on the Middle East, etc. She has run a poor campaign and she lost, fair and square.

Posted by: wesfromGA | May 25, 2008 8:53 PM

Hillary said what she said because she is right. You never know what can happen and there is historical evidence for that. Instead of attacking Hillary obviously, because they fear losing her voters later, they play childish, finger-pointing politics. Grow up, Barack Obama. If you have something to say, say it yourself. Do you really think she meant that you were going to get assassinated? There is a larger point.

She has earned her place in this race and you wouldn't step aside if you were in her shoes. Shut up and get used to the heat because you're going to encounter a lot more.

Posted by: Susie | May 25, 2008 8:54 PM

McAulifee is a lot like Rove....once you understand Washington really doesn't run no issues.
Each time I hear him speak I am impressed, but check my back pocket.
The point mcAuliffe ingenuously doesn't seem to understand is this isn't a slap at RFK as much as it is another Clinton message in disguise. It goes like this: Obama will be shot if you vote him into office.
Spelled out enough? Care to deny it?

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr. | May 25, 2008 8:54 PM

Hi Bob Barr,

If not the Duchess of Appalachia, there's another position waiting for her, one for which she has lots of experience: Ambassador to Bosnia.

Neva

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 8:54 PM

Clinton's supporters are offended by Obama supporter's comments and will never vote for him.

Obama supporters are offended by Clinton supporter's comments and will never vote for her.

The candidates are not responsible for opinions expressed by "supporters" in online comments.

Before you vote, think about which candidate will best represent your own views. Why vote against your own best interests?

Clinton supporters who threaten to support the Republican candidate had best consider the fate of the Supreme Court if the Republicans take the White House again.

Posted by: Vic | May 25, 2008 8:55 PM

Crazy article, HILLARY IS BEYOND VILE !

Posted by: Dave | May 25, 2008 8:55 PM

BOSNIA SHOOTINGS,THIS DEBACLE THIS WEEK ON THE VERGE OF THE RFK SHOOTING,MAGIC MATH,35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE????

IF HILLARY IS STILL MAKING THESE GOOFY STATEMENTS AND WANT TO BLAME THE VICTIM,THEN,SHE IS NOT READY TO ANSWER ANY PHONE AT 3AM,OR EVEN PM..

OBAMA HAD MORE LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE THAN SHE DID WHEN THEY BOTH BEGAN THEIR 1ST YEAR IN THE SENATE..

HE HAS WRITTEN MORE BILLS,THAN SHE HAS THAT HAS ACTUALLY HELPED SOMEONE..

SHE WAS NEVER IN ANY MEETINGS IN THE CLINTON YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR MADE ANY POLICY DECISIONS SO WHERE DOES THE EXPERIENCE COMES IN AT? SHE EXCERCISED BAD JUDGEMENT ON VOTING FOR THE WAR AND LET PEER PRESSURE AND DUMBNESS PERSUADE HER VOTE..AND SHE HAS HAD BAD ADVICE ON RUNNING HER CAMPAIGN WITH MISMANAGEMENT OF HER MONEY AS WELL..

IF SHE IS GETTING ALL OF THIS BAD ADVICE,AND SHE CANNOT BALANCE HER CAMPAIGN FUNDS WELL EITHER,THEN WHY IN THE HECK DO YOU THINK THAT SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB AS PRESIDENT???

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WOMAN PRESIDENT..
BUT NOT THIS ONE

Posted by: the truth | May 25, 2008 8:55 PM

Take the fight to the convention floor Hillary.

Posted by: Joe Wilson | May 25, 2008 8:56 PM

I wonder if Clinton will set up her headquaters for Duchess of Appalacha in KY or WV?

I hope they make that horrendous orange tie Bill wears evey other day their offical flag.

Posted by: BobBarr | May 25, 2008 8:56 PM

Hillary has become psychotic and on the verge of hysteria and madness.

Posted by: tella | May 25, 2008 8:57 PM

Way to go Hill. Just blame the Obama campaign for your own irresponsible gaffe's. It's time to shut the Hill down and for her to end her pipe dream and get behind our candidate Barack Obama. Hillary has done enough damage to the Democratic party through her muleheaded attitude. Enough is enough and what she said a few days ago is absolutely unacceptable. Robert Kennedy Jr. in effect said it was not a big deal but she has set a track record here. It's not just one thing, it's many and Keith Olberman hit the proverbial nail on the head a couple nights ago regarding forgiving her for all of the manipulative gaffe's, deceit including the out and out lies that she has told. Why are so many Americans so self-centered as to say that if she is not the nominee they will vote for McCain.

You know what? If any Democrat votes for McCain I say GO TO HELL!! You will be responsible for at least 4 more years of Bush politics. If you (a Democrat) have the gall to vote for Mcain then you deserve 4 more years of bloodshed in Iraq, 4 more years of financial hell, 4 more years of lies, 4 more years of big oil running the show and 4 more years of the same old health care mess we are currently in. If you vote for McCain then the blood of our troops and innocent Iraqi people is on your hands and you are responsible for the hell that you voted for.

Wake up and smell reality. If you cannot stand the paradigm shift you will be left in the dust. It's time that America embraced MAJOR Change!! We must change dramatically if we are to survive and neither Hillary Clinton or especially John McCain are capable of the kind of progress and evolution that Barack and his administration not only can but WILL bring to our nation. McCain's generation and his mindset are NOT CAPABLE of the kind of progression that our nation must have in order to not only survive but to thrive. Come on board the Obama train or you will be left in the dust of the past.

Posted by: Benjamin from Wyoming | May 25, 2008 8:57 PM

Hillary's character has been continually assassinated through questionable practices by all of the above. This JFK flap is just the latest in the long line of underhanded politics by Barack.
Posted by: www.hillaryclinton.com | May 25, 2008 5:52 PM
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Whaaaaaaaa!! Whaaaaaaaaa! (The sound of the victim card being played). If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Posted by: ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead | May 25, 2008 8:58 PM

Like I have said many times,if the empty suit Obama's speaking style was more like Jesse Jackson instead of Alan Jackson then most people and even the media that has gotten him to where he is today,would'nt
have even have given him a second thought.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 8:58 PM

McAulifee is like Rove. That is, once I concluded that Washington doesn't really run on issues. It's all a career game.
So, each time I hear him speak, I am impressed to the point of being moved, but I end up checking my back pocket.
The point McAuliffe ingenuously doesn't seem to understand is this isn't a slap at RFK as much as it is another Clinton message in disguise. It goes like this: Obama will be shot if you vote him into office.
Spelled out enough? Care to deny it?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 8:58 PM

Contact the Washington Post ombudsman and tell her that the writer of this piece is lying when he accuses the Hillary camp of blaming "Obama", when in fact his own story proves that it is the OBAMA CAMPAIGN that is being blamed.

ombudsman@washpost.com

Posted by: Andrew | May 25, 2008 8:59 PM

Zach, she didn't describe the assasination, she especially didn't describe it as a reason for her remaining in the race, you should at least know what you are talking about before you attempt to write a story about it. She mentioned it when relating how primaries have often gone into June.

For all those Obama supporters who are now going to say that those primaries started later, that is not the point. The argument has been that she needs to drop out because there will not be enough time to unite the party. Since the genral election is always in November, then the point of reference in this situation is the period of time between June and November, not when the primaries started.

Obama's team did fuel the fires on this one. They immediately sent out a press memo on it to reprimand Hillary, then once the fire started they backed off and Obama acted like it was no big deal. This is nothing new though, Obama's campaign has been doing that since the start of his campaign. He tells he is about change and a new type of politics, but he plays the old politics all the time. He tells us one thing, then does another

Posted by: Danielle | May 25, 2008 9:00 PM

You can bet that Hill and Bill have been sitting around saying to each other, "Well, maybe he will be assassinated." So she burbles it out in public. Disgusting.

Posted by: IndyBob | May 25, 2008 9:00 PM

It is obvious from us outside of the US that the women of America are voting for Hillary, not because she is a women but because she is so obviously the BEST candidate to take the US and the Free World into a stable and confident future! We don't understand why Americans cannot see the undemocratic bias shown by BM and the $$$'s buying support for BO? If this is the type of democracy the US is encouraging around the world, the world is better off without it!

Posted by: Outsider | May 25, 2008 9:00 PM

People, who are not in either the Clinton or Obama camp follow the logic of what Clinton said. To paraphrase her words,' Obama may be leading now, but he could suffer misfortune. Therefore I'm staying in the race.' It's clear that this is what she meant. She is mentally unhinged because she put everything into this campaign, and she knows that she will never be President.

Posted by: ridourselvesofthewhiterhino | May 25, 2008 9:00 PM

If you are a democrat and you would be so bitter as not to vote for Obama if he wins the nomination than you are just a child and you shouldn't even be ALLOWED to vote. How could you go against what this party stands for and vote for 4 more years of the same? Just leave the party now please... thanks

Posted by: Crystal | May 25, 2008 9:01 PM

Senator Barack Husein Obama and team always critized their opponents of having bad motives whenever something is said. When President Bush said some people (without naming names) are appeasers, they jumped on this with their chorus men/women in the media to say the president was referring to their man Hussein. When President Clinton says "this is greatest fair tale", they jumped on this to say this has something to do with racism. When Senator Clinton made an historical statement about the role of President Johnson in passing the civil rights, Obama and his team jumped on this and accused her of racism. Now Senator Clinton made another historically accurate statement about election, they jumped on their Keith Olbermann accusing her of everything under the sun.........
Obama team is about fear. As a black person myself I found him to be a fraud and a phony. Will never vote for him if he is the candidate..At this time in our nation's history, we need someone with experience and stable hand.
Democats are fond of picking losers and once again they will pick another tax and spend liberal as their standard bearer and will go down to defeat in November....

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:01 PM

I once had respect for Hillary Clinton. I even considered voting for her after John Edwards suspended his race. But the more I watched her and listened to her the less I thought of her and the more I was convinced she was not Presidential material.

I then began to learn more about Obama and his background and the issues he stands for and the man himself. All the things that the Hillary supporters had tried to brainwash me with about him simply were not true! They called him a Muslim and said he was Arrogant and that he was un-American and told me not to drink the Kool-Aid. I honestly began to see something in women that made me almost ashamed to be a woman. It was really shameful because nothing that Clinton did or said, no matter how horrible made any difference to the Clinton supporters. She could lie and cheat and act spoiled and whine and want an unfair advantage and it didn't mean a thing to them. And then I began to think back to when Bill was President and how he had cheated on her with Monica and how he had been impeached and then I recalled Jennifer Flowers and the twelve year long affair he had with her and Paula Jones and how she had sued Clinton for alleged sexual harassment and on and on and on. And I couldn't understand how so many women wanted this woman, this woman who was such a terrible role model to be the President of the United States.

I am still baffled by it. And this latest gaffe of hers is no little thing. It's a very big thing. To make light of the fact that her staying in the race might be because RFK was assassinated in June of '68, therefore insinuating that this could also happen to Obama, was unspeakable and unforgiveable and unacceptable. Certain no viable candidate for the Presidency of the U.S. could be capable of such a lack of diplomacy, if nothing else.

I am proud of Obama for his graciousness and compassion for her. He has always acted with great dignity and fairness.

Frankly, I will be very happy when this is over. I feel very sorry for those who are so passionate in their support of Hillary Clinton because she continues to let them down with her disgraceful and inappropriate behaviour!

Obama 08

~ Jazz

Posted by: Jazziette Devereaux | May 25, 2008 9:02 PM

You know, in the article where I read Obama's gracious and understanding response to Clinton's remarks, someone had commented something to the effect of, "Very classy of him. Now wait a few hours and Clinton's camp will find some way to blame Obama."

I figured that was a bit too paranoid.

Turns out I'm wrong again.

Posted by: Matt Weiss | May 25, 2008 9:02 PM

CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS.....................
FRIDAY-After Clinton's initial remarks to the newspaper were reported, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying the comment "was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."........................
SATURDAY-A member of Obama's staff sent the media a "searing commentary" by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann slamming Clinton for her remark.............................
SATURDAY NITE-- During a late-night flight from Puerto Rico on Saturday, Barack Obama said:"I think it was an unfortunate remark. But as I said, I think when you're on the campaign trail for 15 months, you know, you're going to make some mistakes and I don't think that Sen. Clinton intended anything by it. And I think we should put it by us."......................
SUNDAY-Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod told ABC's "This Week", "We're beyond that issue NOW, so certainly we're not trying to stir the issue up."

Posted by: 34145 | May 25, 2008 9:02 PM

Hey guys, calm down.

I think the facts clearly show Hillary never implied she was associating the assassination of Robert Kennedy with Obama.

I think the facts clearly show Obama never meant to distort Hillary's record on this.

I think the facts DO show, there were some in both the Hillary and Obama camps that wanted to use this for their personal benefit.

You can't control everyone, guys. Stop the bickering and let's support whoever is nominated... please!

What the facts DO show, is that we need to unite. It is the followers that are demeaning each other.

We actually have two good candidates who would both work hard to reverse the evil and corruption done by this administration.

Never forget that!

Posted by: TruthSeekers
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TruthSeekers, I appreciate your good advice. However, to contend that Hilliary is a "good candidate" is not the truth. She is just as, if not more, corrupt and evil-hearted and evil-minded than anyone with the exception of Bill Clinton from whom she has learned her politicking. No, Hilliary would NOT reverse corruption and evil, she would definitely ADD her own to them and she would throw the USA over the cliff. No, NOT Hilliary, NOT now, NOT ever. We do not need a damned liar and fraud in the White House; we do not need her and her unethical gang in the White House, we do not need her and her incompetency of running her campaign and her budget running our nation. She has already proven, many times over, she is not trustworty, she has no moral values, she is crass, and much, much more negatives, she has proven without a shadow of a doubt she is UNFIT to lead our nation. Don't want to accept this?? Look at her chaotic campaign and all its problems, look at how she has handled her campaign finances, look at how she has refused to pay her debts to small middle-class businesses dating clear back to Iowa; look at all her lies, misspeaks, and trash-and-burn tactics. Look at her incapacity to say "I am sorry" when she utters pure fraud and the JFK comment. Hilliary (and Bill) beleive they are SOOOOOO far above the rest of Americans that they feel saying a sincere "I am sorry" is BENEATH them. They see admitting their wrongs as a weakness and cowardness and not as a strength. You know, this kind of thinking is dangerous and destructive.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:02 PM

"When did it become acceptable for a Muslim to become president?

What's wrong with you people."

Of all the disgusting, hideously ugly comments in this thread, this one is the most reprehensible.

For a country that was primarily founded on freedom from religious tyranny, how the original spirit of this nation must weep that we have become the tyrant we sought to escape. Forget the fact that it's an utter falsehood you proffer as fact that Obama is a Muslim; the fact that it MATTERS to you, that it is self-evidently worthy of your revulsion, is the real insult.

Posted by: Mark in VA | May 25, 2008 9:03 PM

To those asking that the posts from these users should be deleted because they are crossing the line:

The Real Truth
Hill&Bill
BHO is a criminal
His time is about up!

NO! These nutcases exist, we shouldn't hide the fact that this is being said. This is exactly why Clinton shouldn't have brought up the subject. Censoring such comments and pretending that people of this mindset do not exist out there would in fact take from the debate.

Should the people behind these user names face investigation/prosecution if they've crossed a legal line? Absolutely. And their comments should remain on the record.

Posted by: Slim | May 25, 2008 8:41 PM

Unfortunately, I think this crap is protected under the notion of "free speech"

In other words, idiots have a free right to speak nonsense.

Unless it was a direct threat, I think little can be done.

I'm not to worried about these idiots though, at least the ones on here. I'd be shocked if any of 'em could get within 200 ft of Obama's secret service protection.

I wouldn't be surprised if this junk is being posted by political operatives simply looking to cause a stink amongst fellow democrats.

Obama '08

Posted by: George | May 25, 2008 9:03 PM

I'm trying really hard to hold on to some shred of respect for Hillary Clinton, but she and her camp are making it very difficult, if not impossible, to do so. She has run a unbelievably incompetent and meanspirited campaign, serving up more and more evidence each day that she lacks the vision, character, and moral leaderhip to guide our country at this time.

Someone in her inner circle ought to remind her of the biblical principle of sowing and reaping: "whatever a [wo]man sows, this will [s]he also reap." Hillary is trying to destroy Obama, but the simple truth is that she's destroying herself and the Clinton legacy in the process. I hope she will soon come to her senses, stop the madness, and do the right thing -- for herself, the Democratic party, and our nation.

Posted by: Jim | May 25, 2008 9:04 PM

I say screw Clinton. Let her run as an independant.

Obama will kick her, McCain's and Bob Barr's butt.

Posted by: Crybaby Ferraro | May 25, 2008 9:05 PM

Once again the media and Obama supporters are using Hillary's own words against her. It's easy to play a clip or run a quote of Hillary saying something racially inflammatory or completely untrue. But just because she says something, sometimes repeatedly, doesn't mean she believes it.

Posted by: Lance | May 25, 2008 9:05 PM

Mr. America,

I hope you will read about Barack Obama's relationship with the poor.

Firstly: He grew up with a single mother. Money was very short.

Secondly: After he graduated, instead of going to law school right away, he invented a position for himself as a community organizer, when no-one knew what that was, and headed into the very poor communities devastated by the closing of the steel mills on the south side of Chicago. He worked in those communities, with very little pay, day-after-day, full-time, one-on-one to improve the lives of families in need of help.

Thirdly: His father came from a family whose poverty you, who live in America, cannot imagine.

It is very important to know the facts about candidates; otherwise democracy becomes a farce and very scary indeed.

Posted by: Neva | May 25, 2008 9:05 PM

I understand Hillary's supporters. I am sure I would be as vocal a supporter if Barack were in her shoes. But what I am absolutely sure of is this; Barack Obama would be conducting himself with dignity. I am proud of you Barack Obama for taking the hi-road at almost every turn. You have made your share of mistakes, but you have always demonstrated character in the face of the mighty Clinton machine. With your pastor, you looked us in the eye and told us what you knew and thought. What you never mentioned was The Clinton's at their hour of truth and how Rev Wright was at their side. You never brought Bill's character into play, even as he tried to diminish yours. You made me feel compassion for Hillary last week when I wanted to hate her. And yesterday you reminded us all that on the campaign trail things don't always come out like you mean them to. I guess you and Michelle can attest to that. Thank you Barack for walking your talk. We are who we have been waiting for. And WE HAVE ARRIVED

Posted by: Mary | May 25, 2008 9:06 PM

Ron Orf:

Great comment - one of the very few listed here! While I am a Clinton supporter, I also believe we have gotten so far away from the issues that it's a disgrace. And we perpetuate it.

I think part of the problem is that the primary season is so long. And the rules the parties have made about the length of the process, the voting process, etc., are totally screwed up. They need to get it together soon, or a lot of people are going to be moving to be independent voters after this chaotic mess of a campaign.

Posted by: Kathy | May 25, 2008 9:07 PM

K:
"I WILL NOT stand with a band of Obama supporters who have no respect for my candidate and the historic nature of her candidacy."

Personally, I *had* respect for her, but then she ran her campaign as though it was a foregone conclusion that she was going to be the nominee because it was *her turn*. And she didn't do anything to change that until it was too late. And then she started with the "he's not a Muslim... as far as I know" stuff and my respect (and a lot of other people's) just dribbled away.

And if we're going to talk about historic candidacies, doesn't Obama's count?

"We can write in a vote for Hillary in November - remember that."

You can, sure. You will also give us four more years of the same ol', same ol'.

"No one thinks Obama is Mr Highroad anymore."

Oh, I wouldn't say that.

"We will, if we sense no respect from you people. Oh, yes, we will."

Who are "we"? Are you a superdelegate?

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 9:07 PM

I am convinced that Hillbillies believe their own lies -- somebody PLEASE bring on the white jackets that ties in the back, lol!

Her campaign ran an emotional, pathetic, racist campaign then blames Obama or anyone else for their mistakes. She is in DENIAL - it's YOU BILLARY not us! Your plans for division backfired! YOU have screwed up your campaign in so many ways and now because you're not handed the nomination it's everybody elses fault...duh Therapy! Therapy! Therapy! If you didnt get it after Monica Lewisky, PLEASE get it now before it's too late.

Hillary's camp now says sexism is the reason she's going to lose. I disagree, a woman can win the Presidency but her name is NOT Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, Billary many didnt like you before the campaign and now millions more dont like you.

Then ... whatever Billary says in error they blame Obama...WHAT A JOKE! I know the Obama camp is LAUGHING privately but I laugh at this ridiculous nonsense and her campaign publicly. This woman/family is so desperate to get in the white house again that they will say or do anything to get there including planting a seed for racist and the unstable to hurt Obama. Whatever people mean for evil, will be made good. Just think...everytime someone tries to hurt Obama ...they end up getting the short end of the stick, lol.

Hillarys campaign's place in history will also include being the worst run campaign ever! I repeat, there are woman qualified but their name is NOT Hillary Clinton, sorry folks!

Posted by: Unbelievable HillBillies | May 25, 2008 9:07 PM

Now it's Obama's fault people actually understood her words correctly? Her people are just tripping. This is getting ridiculous. enough, I don't want them in the Party anymore, get rid of them.

Posted by: EmmanuelWinner | May 25, 2008 9:09 PM

This issue is a total non-controversy. I don't like either of the Clintons, and Hillary's shrill voice sounds like screeching chalk on a chalkboard. However, anybody with any comprehension knows that Hillary was talking about the history of the Democratic Primary, and that it is not unusual for a Democratic Nominee not being decided until after June. In fact, the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee. RFK did not even get into the primary race until it looked like a dope like Eugene McCarthy could win the nomination. Reading the newspaper articles about this topic makes me wonder if the writers are all dolts or do they just think their readers are dolts.

Posted by: Bill | May 25, 2008 9:09 PM

This issue is a total non-controversy. I don't like either of the Clintons, and Hillary's shrill voice sounds like screeching chalk on a chalkboard. However, anybody with any comprehension knows that Hillary was talking about the history of the Democratic Primary, and that it is not unusual for a Democratic Nominee not being decided until after June. In fact, the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee. RFK did not even get into the primary race until it looked like a dope like Eugene McCarthy could win the nomination. Reading the newspaper articles about this topic makes me wonder if the writers are all dolts or do they just think their readers are dolts.

Posted by: Not a Hillary Fan | May 25, 2008 9:10 PM

i can not agree with clinton..that is why i will make another donation to obama..www.obama.com

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 25, 2008 9:11 PM

It is true that Obama needs the votes of Hillary's supporters. But when her supporters are so blind about the evil and vicious things she has said about, when they constantly portray Obama as the aggressor and Hillary as only defending herself (PLEASE), when they blithely accept the RFK statement as "just" a comment about the hypothetical June deadline and when they countenance raising the assassination of Obama as one of the many false reasons Hillary has provided as to why she continues her campaign. The line has been crossed. Hillary Clinton is evil, her supporters can write her in and elect McCain, but she is dead as a Presidential Candidate, this year and in 2012. Most Americans, will never forget the assassination comment nor the cheap, revolting attempt to blame her comment on Obama. Better to lose than to stay quiet about the murderous outrage which Clinton will never overcome because she is too morally blind to even grasp the magnitude and hurtfulness of her bad judgement. She isn't qualified to be President and she never will become one.

Posted by: CHARLES BLANK | May 25, 2008 9:11 PM

Yes Craig there is a long way to go'all that means is thats more time for people to realize he needs more experience than just being able to deliver an inspiring speech to become President of the United States.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 9:11 PM

This issue is a total non-controversy. I don't like either of the Clintons, and Hillary's shrill voice sounds like screeching chalk on a chalkboard. However, anybody with any comprehension knows that Hillary was talking about the history of the Democratic Primary, and that it is not unusual for a Democratic Nominee not being decided until after June. In fact, the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee. RFK did not even get into the primary race until it looked like a dope like Eugene McCarthy could win the nomination. Reading the newspaper articles about this topic makes me wonder if the writers are all dolts or do they just think their readers are dolts.

Posted by: Not a Hillary Fan | May 25, 2008 9:11 PM

hello folks ,go ahead and vote mccain dont say a word when you have problems paying your bills,i cant believe you dont like a man because his black,all of you have been going to black schools,yale stanford,etc.,so lets go broke with another G.W.BUSH,STAY POOR,NO GRANTS,RICH GET RICHER,PAY MORE AT GAS PUMP,FIVE MILLON TO OIL REFINERTYON JAN.1 OF EVERY YEAR,SO BE BRAVE VOTE MCCAIN.

Posted by: titus | May 25, 2008 9:12 PM

This wil not go away Clinton.

You stayed in the race just in cas something happened to Obama - and it happened to you, by you instead.

There are reports the Kennedy family is outraged. This is what you get for trying to use Obama's bitter comment against him for your political gain.

This is what your campaign wil be remember for.

Posted by: Crybaby Ferraro | May 25, 2008 9:12 PM

I believe the Clintons are fond of saying they are in this "until the last dog dies" and dogs they are. They keep blowing the dog whistles that decent people can't or don't want to hear but we would do well to listen. They have blown the dog whistle of racial politics and continue to fan the flames of bigotry and racism in hopes of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy that will deter decent white Americans from voting for Senator Obama. In the same vein, Hillary is now blowing the dog whistle of assassination in hopes that one of her racist white supporters who may be so inclined will heed her call. They have shown us over and over again their true nature and yet we do not want to believe what we are seeing. Decent white Americans continue to give her the benefit of the doubt for all of the terrible things she has said and done, excusing her vile conduct by stating that she has nothing to gain politically by her actions so we must have misinterpreted her intent or meaning. Hillary Clinton is not worthy of the nomination, or a place in an Obama administration, or even to be elected Dog Catcher. She is the dog that needs to be caught, and in terms of this election, put down to stem the spread of her rabid vitriol.

Posted by: Grace in Orlando, FL | May 25, 2008 9:12 PM

Hey, I am a feminist who was a Clinton supporter but I just am having trouble with recent events. I really see Hillary as an embarrassment to all we stand for.

And, I am so sorry, but it is not Obama, the DNC or anyone else's fault that you said what you said.

My only hope is that you haven't set our movement back a decade with your recent antics.

Please end this ordeal now so we can move on to the general election and the real problem, John McCain.

Posted by: ex-Hillary supporter | May 25, 2008 9:12 PM

There are times when people "pick their battles", and Obama should not have picked this battle. Most of the Kennedys are supporting him, and that's the main reason why he should have quieted this fiasco as soon as he heard about it. For him to go along with the criticism and then back off a little, was not a battle to pick. Bobby Kennedy was assassinated and this fact will always surface when his name is mentioned. There isn't a November 22 of any year that I don't think about John F. Kennedy being assassinated that day in Dallas.

Posted by: Samtheman | May 25, 2008 9:12 PM

Out of the heart the mouth speaks. Hillary Clinton's RFK comment reflects what's in her heart. She is so desperate and pathetic that she is wishing death upon her opponent if thats what it takes to win...in order for her to go that far...she's a bigot. She did not misspeak because she's made similar statements in the past, she was just blatant this time. What a horrible, miserable family.

Posted by: No Freudian Slip! | May 25, 2008 9:13 PM

I complete faith that a country that "clings to guns & religion" will find away to ensure Barack Hussien Obama isn't our next President. One way or the other.

Hillary will be there to pick up the pieces and ensure we win in November.

BTW I can't believe how the media has spun such a harmless comment about JFK.

Posted by: Hill&Bill | May 25, 2008 5:41 PM

For the idiots that accuse me of making a threat. Your right, I'm talking about a threat TO USE OUR VOTING POWER TO ENSURE OBAMA DOESN'T WIN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe how low some of these Obama supporters will go to undermine Hillary supporters and the working class.

Your worse than the candidate himself. An election isn't worth someone's life. I'm not an Obama supporter but that doesn't make me out as some gun-toting country boy with a death wish. My one way or another remark referred to Hillary & John McCain. One way or the other, Obama will lose.

I think some people owe an apology around here.

Posted by: Hill&Bill | May 25, 2008 9:14 PM

Hillary is an unconvicted felon- she perjured her self multiple times in the Special Prosecutor Grand Juries as detailed in a draft indictment against her revealed in Sam Dash's papers last week, she obstructed justice about her felonious solicitation and coordination of Peter Paul's $1.2 million in personal expenditures for her 2000 Senate campaign www.paulvclinton.com, why wont the media shine a light on Hillary's illegally obtaining and keeping her Senate seat?

Posted by: bill | May 25, 2008 9:14 PM

Hillary should be looking for her own V-P. The late-deciding superdelegates will go for her. Why else are they waiting this long. I hope Obama-ites are prepared for a let-down.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:16 PM

Did Obama blame Hillary for his BITTER comment NO! I guess it's Obama's fault he is in the race and makes her have to say evil things like that. The media did their job for once that is all, and you must admit it was a morbid thing to say

Posted by: Hillary is crazy | May 25, 2008 9:16 PM

I have to confess - it was me that started this whole mess over Clinton's assassination remark, not Obama. The minute I saw that clip of Hillary talking to that editorial board, I sent posts in to three on line blogs, and it was before even the Obama campaign released any reaction. I sincerely regret if my posts were misconstrued as fanning any controversy which might offend anyone in the Clinton campaign. I emailed my apology to Bill and Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: Herman | May 25, 2008 9:16 PM

"Posted by: | May 25, 2008 8:47 PM"
OK "reporter. For a reporter you've done nothing to refute anything I've said. The right wing is attacking McCain? Please. McCain is a right wing neo con, who is now sucking up to whoever he can to get votes. That includes Bush, and radical whack job clerics who worship Hitler.

"Basic commons sense should tell you that people's grades in school are not always an indicator of every kind of skill -- or even most skills. If we were going to choose a president in the way you seem to be suggesting, then we could skip the debates and speeches and simply compare transcripts."


You can't be serious. With scores like those, without his daddy, he would have never been a pilot. A Navy pilot is an elite position in the Navy. It would be interesting to see how many Navy pilots finished at the bottom of their class. Most likely none.

"That is a lie, propagated by the far right wing of the GOP. I'm surprised an Obama supporter would repeat it"

There are military records to substantiate this info. Tell your buddy McCain to release the unabridged edition of his medical records. As a reporter, you haven't done much due diligence.

"He was President of it, not "editor." And he got that position via a brokered deal."

If all it is is a brokered deal, then why couldn't Hillary obtain this honor at Yale? No personal integrity, like now. School is an excellent predictor of future success. Hillary's success was predicated on staying married to Bill, not her own merits.

"Not impressed. Constitutional law is confined to the theoretical. I'd be more impressed had Obama been a litigator."

Teaching constitutional law is unimpressive? What has Hillary taught? How to lie at will? That's about it.

"That's not Obama's smarts. Those smarts belong to David Axelrod, and the guys from Citicorp and Goldman Sachs. Obama maxed out on his credit cards and needed Rezko's help buying Stately Wayne Manor."

Then I guess Hillary is not smart enough to surround herself with advisers who will keep her campaign in the black. Seems to be an excellent reason why she should not be president. Same goes with McCain and his 118 lobbyists. McCain's campaign will be owned by despots like the dictators from Myanmar, an the oil barons of Saudi Arabia.

"Hillary still hasn't paid her bills"

She'll pay them."

When? When she begs Obama to retire her campaign debt as a price for her going away? Why don't you and all of you Hillary minions help her retire her debt, so we won't have to.

"..and McCain depends on his wife for financial assistance."

And Kennedy's campaign was financed by his rich bootlegging, antisemitic Daddy. I really don't care if McCain is getting money from his wife. If Obama is the Democratic candidate, I'm voting for McC."

McCain abandoned his first wife while having an affair with ms moneybags. He married her 1 month after abandoning his disabled first wife; the wife who patiently waited for him to return from his collaboration tour in North Vietnam

You can have McCain; no one is going to elect Bush 3 to a third term.
Get your facts straight, reporter

Posted by: Walt | May 25, 2008 9:17 PM

Let me get this straight. The Clinton Campaign now says "it's the right thing to do" to seat Michigan and Florida as if nothing happened, as if they didn't break the rules that Clinton herself signed onto? Unbelieveable...absolutely unbelieveable. Obama has the audacity of hope while the Clinton campaign has the audacity of toro excrement.

Posted by: MarkieBee | May 25, 2008 9:17 PM

Isn't this a little self destructive? Is she really going to go down this route? It is time she threw in the towel. The only reason she is in this predicament is because she played the wrong game in the beginning. Her advisers were completely wrong in the theory that the nomination was owed to her and now she is paying the price. She needs to just go away with Bill for a nice long vacation. I am wondering if they really feel that our nation is so stupid that she can say and do as she wants, run a terrible campaign, pander to the uneducated and get away with it.

Posted by: hmmmmer | May 25, 2008 9:18 PM

I'm just like Hillary, I always mark my calendar by the dates of political assassinations.

My birthday is in November.. you know, the month that JFK was assassinated?

Posted by: Rob | May 25, 2008 9:18 PM

I am amazed that after all of Hillary's bad judgment and bad taste, there are still people that actually vote for her.

Posted by: ed | May 25, 2008 9:18 PM

Clinton's purpose? No one has proposed an explanation besides a veiled incitement to assassination of her competitor.

Posted by: Stephen R. Diamond | May 25, 2008 9:20 PM

Clinton blew the VP spot, but gained the Duchess of Appalacha.

Posted by: BobBarr | May 25, 2008 9:21 PM

The Clinton campaign never ceases to amaze me. They are experts at twisting the facts, manipulating a situation and running a campaign of destruction. The public, including many now former Clinton supporters, will not be fooled any longer. Oh, and by the way, besides dodging sniper fire, I think Hillary was there when the universe was formed as an advisor. STOP drinking the Koolaid!

Posted by: 1rap | May 25, 2008 9:21 PM

Sen. Clinton supporters do not want CHANGE UP A CREEK WITH NO PADDLE.

It is a clear NO to "unity" with cult leader Obama and this should be clearly understood by the superdelegates.

It is a clear NO to pie-in-the-sky "hope, inspiration, change."

It is a clear NO to hocus-pocus "hope, inspiration, change."

It is a clear NO to train wreck Obama with his landslide defeat by McCain.

It is a clear YES to real change with Sen. Clinton's solutions for America.

It is a clear YES to a landslide victory with Sen. Clinton and the defeat of McBush hands down.

Posted by: crat3 | May 25, 2008 9:23 PM

Ed, even Geo Bush was elected twice!

Posted by: Herman | May 25, 2008 9:23 PM

What are you 0bama supporters afraid of?
Why not wait and see what the superdelegates will do after the next three primaries. Let the universe unfold the way it should -- despite the media's biassed attempts to manipulate things.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:24 PM

HRC was quick to pounce on Obama's "bitter" statement, but cries fowl when others respond to her statements.

Must be a side effect from the Bosnian sniper fire.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:25 PM

Just think folks. Only NINE MORE DAYS and we will be FREE of Clinton drama. Thank God.

Posted by: Barbara | May 25, 2008 9:25 PM

I Love my country. Do you?:
"When did it become acceptable for a Muslim to become president?"

When they are at least 35 years old and natural-born citizens?

"Jeremiah "GD America" Wright?"

First you imply Senator Obama is a Muslim, as if there's something horrible about that, and then you complain about the pastor at his (Christian) church. It's OK if you don't like Obama, but you should at least make up your mind why. :)

"Michelle "I'm Proud of America for the first time" Obama"

And that's not what she said.

"He hates America and especially the working class on which America was built."

Hmm, yes, I can see why someone who hates America would run for President.

"He told us that we "cling to guns and religion" because were too dumb to know any better."

A) That's not what he said, and B) I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania, and bitterly clinging to guns and religion is a pretty accurate description.

"If Hillary isn't on the ballot in November, please vote McCain."

Not if you paid me.

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 9:25 PM

At this point if anything ever happened to Barack I think it would be perfectly plausible for Al Gore or John Edwards to be asked by the party elders step into the spot as the party nominee.

The democrats should win by a landslide in November, but the Clintons (that's right folks, you get two for the price of one, only $19.95) do not deserve to be the nominee if anything ever happened to the presumptive nominee, Senator Obama.

Phil

Posted by: Phil T. | May 25, 2008 9:27 PM

For all of you Obama supporters saying that Hillary owes Obama and his family an apology, you are being ridiculous. She was not talking about Obama, and he deserves no apology as she did not slight him.

For those of you saying she increased his risk of assasination, I hate to say it but you, the media and his own camapign is doing that by pressing this issue for so many days. If anything, I think Hillary's Secret Service detail needs to be increased after reading the many posts of hate towards her on this issue.

Posted by: Danielle | May 25, 2008 9:28 PM

Worse was her original comment, worse yet was her poor explanation, far worst is blaming Obama.

She will get roasted for this. She broke the democratic party apart. Shame on her! What an unsincere, selfish and power hungry person.

She will have lots of time to ponder this with Lanny Davis and Gerry Ferraro

Posted by: Crybaby Ferraro | May 25, 2008 9:28 PM

Clinton is the anti-Obama. He's a uniter, she a divider.

Posted by: Crybaby Ferraro | May 25, 2008 9:30 PM

Obviously, after reading these posts, ignorance is alive and well - with supporters in both camps.

In the final analysis, anyone who supports either candidate and then goes over to the McCain camp if they fail to win the nomination, is like a spoiled brat and deserves the hell they will get.

Obviously racism and ignorance are alive and well in our great country. Very sad.

Posted by: karakat | May 25, 2008 9:30 PM

This reminds me of a nice duet.


Obama Lead off Solo:
Guess it's over, call it a day
Sorry that it had to end this way
No reason to pretend
We knew it had to end some day, this way

Hillary follow up Solo:
(silence and tears)

CUT! CUT! Hillary what is the matter?

I thought we were doing the Rocky song?

Can you imagine her signing a national treaty and not reading it or interpreting it incorrectly like she has done in her senate position???

Do you guys still believe she would answer the 3 am call or hand it off to Bill, that is if he isn't busy somewhere else in another uh... room.

Posted by: Greg | May 25, 2008 9:30 PM

Liz Trotter on Fox News joked today about wanting to see the assassination of Obama. Do a google search for "fox news joke assassination" to see the clip.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:31 PM

The Obaa camp made one statement - that Clinton's remarks had no place in the campaign, and then another - that they took her at her word that she regretted it. And that's the end of it. It is the Clintons who are turning this into a cause celebre. The Clintonistas posting here are either liars or just crazy. They are trying to salvage their beloved leader by outright falsification of basic facts. Disgusting. We don't want them in the Democratic Party anymore. Frankly, I don't think Obama needs them to win in November anyway.

Posted by: EmmanuelWinner | May 25, 2008 9:31 PM

Were she a man she would be toast by now.

Assassination. Oh, she's just tired.

It's Obama's fault.
Posted by: Richard McDonough | May 25, 2008 6:50 PM
-----------------------------
It wouldn't matter if she was a man at this point, she would not be gone, half the votes are on her side right now. No one has won the nomination. You all want us to think Obama is a shoe in, if that's so, then why hasn't he won 2026 pledged delegates? Just because he is arrogant and wants to preetend to be the nominee does not mean he is.

She didn't say she was tired, Obama said she was tired. There was nothing in her comment citing a historical point as a reference that requires an apology.

She did not say her comment was Obama's fault, she said it was his campign fueling the fire on this issue.

Posted by: Danielle | May 25, 2008 9:32 PM

It is Hillary's sub-conscious mind speaking: and what it speaks, reveals what is going on in Lady Macbeth's wicked mind.
She is undoubtedly very talented, but her fatal flaw is her vaulting ambition, which makes her blind to the fact that as far as America is concerned, the race is over for her. White trash!

Posted by: Alzach | May 25, 2008 9:32 PM

I thought America was better than this. It goes to show that if you're rich and powerful u still can influence people. How in the heck can she blame this on Obama. Whoever accept this is flatout wrong. Obama has his work cut out for him but i admire him for being honorable in the face of b.s. like this. They are trying so hard to pin this on Obama but they have nothing on him. Unlike Hillary, Barack has given her a free pass this whole campaign. There is a certain type of bias going on here. The media needs to speak on it. Maybe we are not ready for him yet but this is ridiculous to blame him for this too. I am appalled and upset Clintons keep blaming Barack even when he took the high road!!!

Posted by: HUH?? | May 25, 2008 9:33 PM

FRIDAY-After Clinton's initial remarks to the newspaper were reported, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying the comment "was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."......................
SATURDAY-A member of Obama's staff sent the media a "searing commentary" by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann slamming Clinton for her remark ............................
SATURDAY NITE-- During a late-night flight from Puerto Rico on Saturday, Barack Obama said:"I think it was an unfortunate remark. But as I said, I think when you're on the campaign trail for 15 months, you know, you're going to make some mistakes and I don't think that Sen. Clinton intended anything by it. And I think we should put it by us."........................
SUNDAY-Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod told ABC's "This Week", "We're beyond that issue NOW, so certainly we're NOT TRYING to stir the issue up."
(already stirred-up starting Fri. and w/distribution of MSNBC commentary to media)........ A DIFFERENT KIND OF CAMPAIGN?......................

Posted by: 07001 | May 25, 2008 9:33 PM

Larry Sinclair story in depth... Trinity United Church gay choirmaster murdered, after calling Sinclair as a Obama campaign operative to discuss Sinclair's tryst with Obama in the back of a limo.

This is what Hillary refers to when she says Obama is not vetted. And it's why she is still in this race and wants the VP slot.

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/04/will-obamas-indiana-truth-squad-address.html

Posted by: Geraldine | May 25, 2008 9:33 PM

If she does manage to steal this nomination I hope and pray Obama supporters will work their buns off to keep her from winning. with a 51% diapproval rating i don't think this will be difficult. We will start a STOP HILLARY MOVEMENT !!! SHE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE ANYBODYS PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!!

Posted by: STOP HILLARY NOW | May 25, 2008 9:33 PM

The Obama camp put a racial spin on Bill's early comment. Now they're putting another negative spin on Hillary innocent statement. Is there a Rove in their camp? He's doing a good job. The liberal press is lapping it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:33 PM

Please, please when will it be June 3rd!

June 3rd = America's independance from the Clintons! Yeay!!!!!!


$1000.00 cash back in taxes

Obama 08

Posted by: Me | May 25, 2008 9:34 PM

She's shameless. The remaining uncommitted SD's have to put and end to this.

Posted by: rsmendo | May 25, 2008 9:34 PM

Hillary has tried to stoke and exploit the fears and prejudices of the electorate like no one else since Bush #1 and Willie Horton. Now its stuff like "he's not a SDS supporter .. as far as we know." And, just out of earshot but implicit in her slimy campaign, "he's not a communist .... as far as we know." And, "there is no evidence to support the accusation that he's a Muslim .....as far as we know."

Very slick, but oh so transparent.

Hillary the mean-spirited and her shrill staff have torn several pages from Carl Rove's playbook on innuendo, and it is indeed disgraceful.

She and Bill have managed in six months time to squander all of the goodwill accumulated through the 1990s, and it's rapidly approaching the point where her conduct and that of her staff is unforgivable.

Posted by: loulor | May 25, 2008 9:34 PM

We just need to lure that Hussien boy to a picnic with chicken and watermelon. Then us small town folk who cling to guns & religion will show him what we do with them guns.

Posted by: His time is about up!

I apologize for my insensitive and stupid remark. I said something regretful and immature that was un-called for. It was done in the heat of the moment as I was outraged at some of the comments being made towards Hillary.

I do not support Obama, but I hope, he is able to continue to run a safe campaign. I do understand why some take offense to what Hillary said, and I only further legitimized the claim that her remarks could insite something to happen.

Sincerely,

The initial poster of the comment above.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:34 PM

why is it ok to speak about assassination on 60 minutes?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nyUsDOeFo24&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:35 PM

go right ahead and vote for mc cain instead of obama. this shows how petty we are as a country, that we are judging people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character. fact barack did not tell hillary to say the mean things that she said. so if your soul is so hateful towards anyone who doesnt look like use will solve the problems in america go right ahead. ask your self can you stand 4 more years of hardship and a possible war. because you don't like some one because they are black. Grow up America

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:35 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:35 PM

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is somewhat colored by the fact that, not only endorsed Hillary, he has expressed an interest in her Senate seat, should she be elected President. And since presumably, the Governor of NY would be inclined to go along with whatever suggestions she might have regarding that seat, Kennedy's statement should be taken in context.

In addition, no other member of the Kennedy family, has come out to defend Hillary's remarks.

Posted by: Amy | May 25, 2008 9:36 PM

I will have the opportunity next weekend to speak to a super delegate who has not committed to Obama and rest assured I will speak.

Clinton has campaigned much to long and it is more than time to exit. Good riddance.

Posted by: Arizona Prospector | May 25, 2008 9:36 PM

miller51550@yahoo.com:
"I find it extremely difficult to understand how the DNC can make a decision to NOT COUNT the popular vote in Michigan and Florida."

Easy: they broke the rules laid down by the party. Incidentally, Hillary agreed that Florida and Michigan would not count... until she started losing.

Funnily enough, the only person to vote against stripping Florida's delegates was an Obama supporter. Read this:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/22/0226/35614/632/520082

"BY making rules and policies that are contrary to the Constitution of the United States."

They're not. The parties can pick their nominees by drawing names out of a hat if they want to. It has nothing to do with the Constitution.

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 9:36 PM

The below comments are only at best, half truths that are so like the Clinton's

You say:
"Fact: Obama & his campaign have fought to ensure the states of FL & MI aren't counted in the democratic process"

Within two weeks I believe we will hear that these2 states Deligates will be allowed to be seated.

You say:
"Fact: Hillary wins the head-2-head matchup with McCain by winning in all the key battleground states"

Truth: You're implying that McCain will win all the key battleground states and that isn't going to happen

You say:
"Fact: Obama loses to McCain in the head-2-head matchup b/c of his inability to win over working class voters."

Truth: The latest polls show Obama a better match against McCain. See realclearpolitics.com. Again you imply that working class voters will vote for McCain - again not true.

You say:
"Fact: Since March, Hillary's campaign has won more elected delegates than Obama including states like TX, OH, PA, IN, WV and KY.

Truth:
Obama 449 Clinton 625 (you might be right!)

WAIT - Total Deligates NOT counting Super

Obama 1658 Clinton 1500

with Super

Obama 1970 Clinton 1780

Available - Pledged 86 Super 205

Let's not forget the rest on the deligates please, isn't that what Clinton keeps saying?

You say:
"Fact: Obama's devisive campaign has caused his momentum to cease and the vetting process has revealed associations that would have left his campaign for dead if they had came out sooner."

Truth:
That is purely wishful thinking - He just won NC and Oregon, they nearly split IN. She's gained 10 deligates in the last 5 primaries so I'd say his momentum is on par with hers. She'd only need about 400 more primaries at that rate Remember there are only 85 pledged deligates left

Posted by: Stuart | May 25, 2008 9:36 PM

Obama is the only candidate can move the country in to a new direction because he is honest and intelegent.

Posted by: jimjus | May 25, 2008 9:37 PM

It's very simple, next time Hillary should keep her big mouth shut. The next time Hillary wants her over active imagination to run the show, all she has to do is think twice and then think again, and not say anything. What was the point anyway of bringing up the assassination of RFK, who knows. What does it have to do with Hillary staying in this contest, not a thing. You would think Hillary could see what the Kennedy's are going through with Ted and now they have to be reminded of the assassination of RFK because Hillary wants to make a point. How about this Hillary, you can't use whoever you want past and present to win the nomination because you feel your the stronger candidate.

Posted by: houstonian | May 25, 2008 9:37 PM

Drop a bomb, apologize, spin, repeat.

Race, gender, religion, patriotism, experience and now assassination threat.

"He's black, I'm a woman, I've got experience, it's my turn, I've been tested under sniper fire, his preacher is a nut, he could get shot, he's a Mooslum, he might get shot..."

Yes sir, here's the very person we need to unite, inspire and lead our Nation.

Posted by: x32792 | May 25, 2008 9:38 PM

WRITEHILLARYIN.COM

Posted by: hillaryforprez. | May 25, 2008 9:38 PM

An anonymous poster blames Obama for what Kieth Olbermann, an idependent journalist, has to say? and then "geraldine" smears a gay tryst and murder story only sick people would even pay attention to? My god, what ARE these Clinton people? She is not the only monster of her campaign. They are truly sickening in their sickness. Enough of this nonsense - superdelegate, pay attention and get on with it!

Posted by: EmmanuelWinner | May 25, 2008 9:40 PM

Forgive my spelling - Delegates

Posted by: Stuart | May 25, 2008 9:40 PM

I am sick and tired of the @#%@#$@#$% Hillary Camp blaming Obama for a defeat of their own creation.

What a whiney bunch of disgusting losers.

According to them, their failure is everyone's fault but themselves. If it's not Obama is misogyny or it's Florida or it's one thing or another.

WHAT A SORRY EXAMPLE AND WHAT A SORRY EXCUSE FOR A LEADER.

Posted by: Hillary is a Professional Victim | May 25, 2008 9:40 PM

This is the real women's lib. Women can be just as foolish, misguided, bull headed and unable to admit a mistake as any man. Go Hillary - back where you came from.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:40 PM

Egads, woman....accept...some...responsibility...for...your...screwups....BAARRFFF

Posted by: Jaybird | May 25, 2008 9:40 PM

Some commenters have referred to the JFK comment made by Hillary. Obviously they don't know what in the heck they are talking about. We can only assume that other comments they make aren't backed up by any correct facts.

Posted by: Sean | May 25, 2008 9:40 PM

To "Walt"

"OK "reporter. For a reporter you've done nothing to refute anything I've said."

I guess you think that means you're smarter than reporters.

"The right wing is attacking McCain? Please."

The right wing attacked McCain with the same "facts" you're reiterating during his campaign for the nomination in 2000."
(snip)

"Basic common sense should tell you that people's grades in school are not always an indicator of every kind of skill "
(snip)

"You can't be serious. With scores like those, without his daddy, he would have never been a pilot. A Navy pilot is an elite position in the Navy. It would be interesting to see how many Navy pilots finished at the bottom of their class. Most likely none."

I repeat, I think a candidate's college record is of zero importance.

"There are military records to substantiate this info."

It's not interesting and it's beside the point. McCain has been a better Senator than Obama. He participates in the debates, makes his points clearly, cooperates with the press.

"As a reporter, you haven't done much due diligence."

I don't think that resurrecting forty-year old war records, or even older class standings is what we need to be doing when we choose our next President. Of course, if a candidate is a complete cipher without his academic laurels, I suppose his advocates will want to rabbit on about his grade point average and unimportant stuff like that.

"He was President of it, not "editor." And he got that position via a brokered deal."

"If all it is is a brokered deal, then why couldn't Hillary obtain this honor at Yale?"

I'm guessing that Hillary wasn't interested in being President of Yale Law Review. And I'm also guessing that affirmative action played some part in getting the position for Obama -- he was the first African-American to win that position.

"School is an excellent predictor of future success."

Uh huh. Tell that to Winston Churchill. FDR. JFK. Don't be silly, please.


"Hillary's success was predicated on staying married to Bill, not her own merits."

You need to read Bill's autobiography to see the enormous role Hillary played in his election and in his administration.

"Not impressed. Constitutional law is confined to the theoretical.... (snip)"

"Teaching constitutional law is unimpressive? What has Hillary taught?"

She taught at University of Arkansas Law School. I don't know what she taught there. I'm not interested, because I think it's unimportant.

"I guess Hillary is not smart enough to surround herself with advisers who will keep her campaign in the black."

Many of Obama's donations were via young people's credit cards. Look for a scandal in a few months involving maxed out cards, and uncollectable funds because of that.

" ... 118 lobbyists. ...dictators from Myanmar ... oil barons of Saudi Arabia."

I'm not worried about that. Are you?

"McCain abandoned his first wife while having an affair with ms moneybags. He married her 1 month after abandoning his disabled first wife; the wife who patiently waited for him to return from his collaboration tour in North Vietnam"

Oh, boo hoo hoo. According to McCain's biographer, the McCains had already agreed to divorce before he even met Cindy. McCain and his first wife had already been separated several times at that point.

"You can have McCain; no one is going to elect Bush 3 to a third term."

Bush is not running. McCain is not like Bush at all. If you really followed politics -- day in and day out -- you'd know that. All you seem to know about McCain is baloney from the tabloids -- not "facts" at all.
Get *your* facts straight, Walt.

Posted by: Reporter | May 25, 2008 9:41 PM

I am tired of all these people talking about, Obama and the million man march and farahkan, black theology and so forth and do not have any information on these things, lookup what the million man march was about it was about the black men stepping up and being men, being responsible for their families to stop the killing of each other and to get educated to help each other, that theology is not about taking over the world or hate but using the bad against you and turning it into good by working in your neighborhood and communites to up lift them. Go and really read the speeches farakahn spoke most of them were about making yourself better the communites around you better, people are out there posting comments from straight fear of blacks and some just pure hate for blacks and probably any other minoritys, we are falling behind in everything in this country and in the word we are in debt to china for your tax rebates, we are being held hostage by the Saudis with oil which is making our economy fall and our dollar weaker, it is time for a change to try new routes to think outside the box, after a while if we all do not come togather whites,blacks,hispancis what ever we will not be a country but a past tense! For this country to gain the ground we have lost we have to make a change in the way our government does things! So vote for who you want, but do some reading for you post all this hate out their and then post the facts, not something you hard or just believe!

Posted by: petergun03 | May 25, 2008 9:42 PM

Hey, do any of the Obama supporters on this thread know how Axelrod incentivizes? Is it a salary thing, or by the comment? Where do I send my resume? And can I work from home? Thanks.

Posted by: lambert strether | May 25, 2008 9:42 PM

The United States. The United part of the name is a farce, there is racism, sexism, separatism, ageism and prejudice toward anyone who's not a part of a common denomination all over the country. Get real. This is not unity.
Chatter has long been on the web about Obama getting assassinated if he becomes President, I distinctly remember reading a post by a black woman in the south who's thinking was - that if she voted for him and he was offed because of his color that she wouldn't be doing him any favors, so Hillary as a woman was preferable. Now the media and everyone else has jumped onto the band wagon for their two cents worth and plant it squarely on Hillary. RFK's son has no issues with her and backs the consensus that she did not cross a line.
Both sides have said things to the other and neither one is innocent of mud slinging, but I do not believe for one second that HRC would deliberately plant such an evil seed hoping for that outcome to befall Obama. Of course now that the fuss has been made, who knows what could happen in someone's mind out there.

Posted by: Mac | May 25, 2008 9:43 PM


Senator Clinton you are responsible for assassinating your own candidacy with own "Misspoken Words" Quit blaming everyone and everything!

This one of those cases where Obama didn't have to say a word, she did it to herself .
The reason ordinary people are outraged, is because of the insinuation and the fact that her camp has repeatedly said "something might happen" some act of God!

It's amazing how the Clinton's, Bill and Hill, two skilled politicians can get away with playing dumb and everyone gives them the benefit of the doubt!

Another sad day for strong women who know how to acknowledge their mistakes without using the gender card.

- White Female over 40 -

Posted by: J gigi | May 25, 2008 9:44 PM

Sorry, Clintons. You can yell and stomp your feet all you want. Obama knows you're just trying to distract him. He's moving on. You can keep playing, but in 9 more days IT'S OVER....no matter if the lady in the pantsuit sings or not.

Posted by: Janet | May 25, 2008 9:45 PM

She is certifiable, and I think McAullife may be slipping her mind altering drugs....that is the only way a rational person can explain how a once intelligent, lucent, coherent individual could have become such a loon in a short period of time....yes, pharmacology...any better ideas out there?

Posted by: Jaybird | May 25, 2008 9:45 PM

Manolete:
"Now that we know about his associations with black supremacist and radical extremist groups, he can not get the support of hard working americans and all he has is the vote of blacks that vote for him"

Must have been that huge contingent of non-hard-working black Americans that saved him in Oregon then?

"Hillary will win the popular vote when all the votes are counted in all 55 United States."

Actually, there's a good chance she won't. That is, unless you assume that none of those "uncommitted" votes from Michigan were for Obama and you discount the caucus states.

There's a good summary here: http://www.newsweek.com/id/138109/page/2

Posted by: Manolete | May 25, 2008 7:54 PM

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 9:45 PM

Obama is the only candidate can move the country in to a new direction because he is honest and intelegent.

Posted by: jimjus | May 25, 2008 9:37 PM

==============================
I hope you give him a call soon so he can move you to a new direction on how to spell intelligent!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:46 PM

It's worth noting that the first part of Hillary's statement was simply a lie. Bill Clinton had the nomination sewn up before California, as he had an insurmountable delegate lead. The distant second candidate, Jerry Brown, agreed not to run TV ads in California and to back off his criticisms of Mr. Clinton as it was clear that Clinton would be the nominee and needed to consolidate the party. Furthermore, it was not the "middle of June" it was the first Tuesday in June - the 2nd. Somehow I do not see Senator Clinon offering up the same courtesy to Senator Obama, despite the insurmountable delegate lead and the need to unite the party. Hmmmm, anyone surprised?

Posted by: Pants on fire... | May 25, 2008 9:46 PM

Hillary isn't dumb enough to not realise that people would think that she was saying that Obama could be assasinated. She's been saying this for months. And now that she's opened the door to talk about this you have a Fox News Journalist saying that she wants Obama killed... while talking about what Hillary said. Here's the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

Posted by: Anton Bursch | May 25, 2008 9:47 PM

As a Hillary supporter, up until 2 days ago, I am sickened.

I've donated to her, I have worked the phones, computers and numerous rallys for her. And I have even travelled to 3 different states to assist during primaries for her.

But I am completely sickened by what has happened and I feel ashamed of myself for believing so much in her.

Senator Obama, I will work hard for you if you don't mind taking in a former Hillary supporter??

Posted by: Maria Sanchez | May 25, 2008 9:47 PM

Jaybird: The woman is unstable, terminally self absorbed, shameless and crazy as a crack house rat.

Posted by: x32792 | May 25, 2008 9:47 PM

Ok... who was offended?? tell me what was so offensive about these comments... I heard the comments... and in the context of her description of the lenth of time in which RFK primary lasted... I dont see the offensive nature in her comments. Where is Americas backbone these days. Its so amazing to me how the Americans of today hang on to every single little snipit out of these politicians mouths. So many more "Lies" to come... lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Posted by: Bobby Yarush | May 25, 2008 9:48 PM

I was a Clinton supporter all along, until now. I voted for her for Senate, I voted for her husband twice for President. I even stayed in her camp when she made the unfortunate remark about assassination.

However, her campaign's attempt to shift the blame to Obama on this is the straw that broke the camel's back. It's not just this one incident, but as I say, it is the straw that broke the camel's back.

At some point, a person must accept responsibility, quit blaming others, and put the good of the country above their own ego. As a long time, ardent Clinton supporter, I can't help but be impressed with how Obama handles himself in this tough campaign, compared to Hillary.

Jack Davis in New York

P.S. I will vote against Hillary for Senate, Governor, or any other office, every chance I get from now on, in primaries or General elections.

Posted by: Jack Davis | May 25, 2008 9:48 PM

Zachary A. Goldfarb wrote: "The Obama campaign called Clinton's words unfortunate and circulated a TV commentary criticizing them, although Obama himself said Saturday that he took Clinton at her word that she meant no harm."

What, TV commentary is he referring to? Anyone know?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:48 PM

And I would like to sincerely thank "Hank" for reminding me of where I live. He says that, no matter what, he's not "ready" for a black president so he'll be voting for McCain. I'm sure that this sentiment is shared by many white Americans and that ultimately McCain will win because of it. It's a sad state of affairs when you realize that racism was, is and apparently always will be the American way.

Posted by: Marla | May 25, 2008 9:48 PM

This latest flap shows why Hillary is unfit for higher office and not suited for command.

Posted by: almaden | May 25, 2008 9:48 PM

How typical of Obama supporters that some loser is responding to my posts by using my name under their Clinton attacks.

That behavior, in fact, is a kind of metaphor for what their candidate does: pretend to be above dirty politics while his surrogates and campaign engages in it on his behalf. Obama is a pretentious candidate with his attack-dog supporters dirty campaigning at his behest, but under their own names, not his.

Posted by: Afraid to Post My Name Now | May 25, 2008 9:49 PM

To Robert Kennedy:

You would be wise to consider the investment you have made and will want to continue to make in the Clinton's quest. As much as I am so totally offended by Hillary Clinton's remarks comparing your father's assassination to a late June end to a Demoratic Primary, and the implications to Barack Obama, the first African American candidate for president, on the cusp of winning his party's nomination, a cause for which your father would clearly feel a certain redemption, I can understand the courage you have demonstrated to quell the uproar. It is indeed admirable. It is probably what your father would have done. However, your father would not have been supportive of the Clinton's efforts at using you as a "schil" for their insincere attempts at winning at all costs and winning for self, not the uplift of the American people about which he cared so much. Which is exactly how Terry McCauliffe positioned you today on all the talk shows and it frankly stains your family's legacy unduly. It is shameful on his and the campaign's part and shows that nothing is sacred to them in terms of achieving their ends. It is the reason you find yourself at odds with your family in this chasm. So, consider any further investment. You have now done more than you neeeded to do. Follow your uncle's instincts. God Bless him and his towering strength.

Posted by: ProfSM | May 25, 2008 9:49 PM

This all seems so familiar...is Karl Rove advising the Clintons?

Posted by: x32792 | May 25, 2008 9:53 PM

People speak what is in their heart.

Hillary would not be speaking about assassination unless it was in her heart.

Posted by: carl ball | May 25, 2008 9:54 PM

I think some of these "Hillary supporters" are really GOP supporters. What Democrat would really vote for McCain? He goes against everything a Democrat should be supporting, not to mention a lot of beliefs that true conservatives have.

Posted by: connect the dots | May 25, 2008 9:55 PM

Wow Butch, I really doubt you are a strong union member, nor your other union buddies who won't vote for Obama.

Voting for McCain and turning your back on America like that isn't too brotherhood-like. You must enjoy not working or don't mind taking a job serving french fries paying 1/10th of what you made in your union job.

Same with any of the posters who say they will vote for McCain. You must like having an economy in the toilet, owing lots of debt, having more and more jobs being sent overseas, paying way too much for gas and the resulting utility bills. You must like breathing bad air, seeing our earth being wasted. You must like sending your son's and daughters to fight (and some will die) in a war that has no purpose.

Go ahead and vote for McCain and let the rich and the large corporations take their welfare, while you get all of the above.

On the otherhand, if you come to your senses, you will vote for a Democrat. Particularly, you may want to consider Obama because he is for reducing taxes for the middle class and ending the sucking sound of corporate welfare. If not Obama, then Hillary. But whomever wins the Democratic nomination, it will be a much better decision for America to stick with the Democrat nominee.

Republicans have ruined this country over the last 7 years. NO MORE REPUBLICANS!
Don't be so dumb as to vote for a Republican. Especially McCain. He's a disaster waiting for a place to happen.

Posted by: Margaret | May 25, 2008 9:55 PM

Enough. The medias have the art to spin any single story that they can put their hands on. HRC made that statements many times in the past and nobody came after her. Even Bobby Kennedy Jr, who endorsed her, agreed with her and defended her against the medias.
We well know that the medias in general were not well treated by the Clintons and for good reasons. Look where we are right now. The days of real non partisan journalism and analysts are gone. All what matter is sensationalism. What do you expect then? Media are part of the political machine and they will do whatever they can to have their candidates elected.
It's really sad that people listen to all this crap and make up their mind without being fully informed, just by trusting their gut. These are the very people who elected Bush twice because he was a "good" guy with whom americans wanted to have a beer with. it did not matter that he bankrupt the companies he headed.
Women of power are tough and not likable, that's the reality. But they are often more intelligent and experienced that their counterpart. Blaming somebody to do whatever they can to win the presidency? IT'S EXACTLY WHO I WANT AS A PRESIDENT!! Somebody smart and tough, and who will do whatever needs to be done to have the job done right.
Elect somebody who has no experience and a lot of charisma, we just need an other person who does not know what he is doing and who will learn by trial and error. I found appalling to hear the comments of all the anti HRC people, there is no rational in their hatred.

Posted by: Luc | May 25, 2008 9:56 PM

It is AMAZING and sad how the media, particularly CNN have trivialized the horrifically diobolital mentality of the Clintons.
Black Americans, and many of all races are EXTREMELY disturbed by Hillary's insinuation of a possible assassination of Barack Obama. To imply that her reason for staying in the race is because anything can happen, then nonchalantly say that even Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June, meaning therefore she should stay in, is not only pitifully diobolical but incredibly dangerous.
As I read some of the comments, I sense that some do not understand the true impact of her deadly insinuation. Keep in mind, when it was first announced that Obama was running for President, the initial concern in Black America was his safety. "Would some nut sniper him"? Obama had to hire secret service security right out of the gate.....why? Because of the true possibilty of some nut doing harm to him or his family.
Also, during the last 50 years, the people who have been assassinated have ALL been leaders who were working toward equality for ALL. John F., Robert and of course Dr. King. So just the WORD assassination brings to us not only an extreme fear but is a reminder of the incredibly sad loss to America, particularly Blacks, at the hands of the sick and wicked. For Hillary Clinton, a so-called leader, to insinuate, for WHATEVER reason assassination....is beyond disgusting. It subliminally sparks the hatred, bigotry and destruction that most Americans have worked so hard to overcome.

Greg Jones
www.Blacks4Barack.org
A Multi-Racial Org...Dedicated To Truth !

p.s. And to the Hillary supporters who get a kick out of the thought of holding the Democratic Party ransom with their refusal to vote for Obama....frankly, if Obama lost to McCain....even he'd be better for America than the diobolical Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 9:56 PM

I think we can all agree that the worst thing about this election cycle is the supporters and paid shills of each of the three remaining candidates and the way they are taking the campaign into the gutter on anonymous (and even authenticated) news blogs and YouTube. If you are gullible (and it seems clear that a lot of Americans are), you will have opportunity feast on a banquet of misinformation, innuendo, lies and slander from now til November.

The best way to make an informed decision is to watch the candidates and what they say and do. Hillary lost the primary on the merits of how she ran her campaign. That the early presumptive nominee would be in a situation where she's having to loan her campaign $20 million to stay competitive tells me that she is not the person I want running the country.

McCain has not articulated how his strategy is any different than Bush's in Iraq. He says we're going to win, but how do you win an occupation? I also think that if Obama had sung Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran that he would be out of the race.

Obama despite having the thinnest resume has appeared the most presidential. He's calm and rational and has policies that seem thoughtful and reasonable. He's run a lean, tough campaign without selling his soul or looking desperate or overly ambitious. That's why he's on the verge of clinching.

Posted by: Michael | May 25, 2008 9:57 PM

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" Quoth Henry II, and sycophantic nobles were all too happy to oblige their frustrated, overwrought, and no doubt, tired monarch. Terry McAuliffe would no doubt find a way to blame the Archbishop for what befell him later in Canterbury Cathedral. While there may be room for plausible deniability in Henry's intemperate utterance as there surely is in Hillary's bizarre, inane and dangerously reckless analogy, to blame Obama makes as much sense as trying to blame Beckett. God forbid any of her legions of gun-toting, God-fearing, hard-working white Americans should be moved by the power of suggestion to a bizarre, inane and dangerously reckless act.
What ever the motivation in the first place, her comment was unbelievably stupid, in the poorest of taste and so lacking in judgement as to call in question her mental fitness for our nation's highest office. Terry McAuliffe should be ashamed of himself!

Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008 9:57 PM

These Hillary posters are some of the most immature children I have ever seen. Everytime one of them complains, all I here is, "the Party didn't coronate our candidate, so I'm going to vote for McCain to make sure everything Hillary and I stand for is undermined and the Court is stacked with conservatives for a generation."

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 9:58 PM

JUST CURIOUS, DOES ANYBODY KNOW HILLARY'S
MEDICIAL HISTORY? SHE DISPLAYS ALL THE SIGNS OF BEING BIPOLAR WHICH WOULD BE OKAY IF SHE REMEMBERS HER MEDICATION! I THINK SHE LOST THEM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. OR MAYBE IT WAS INTENTIONAL SO HER AND BILLY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THE WAY HOME AFTER CAIN'S PARTY.

ALSO DO YOU THINK BILL LEFT SOMETHING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ,? MY GOD HE ACT'S LIKE HE'S GOING TO BLOW A GASKET IF HILLARY LET'S HIM DOWN. IN FACT I'M NOT SURE MOST DAYS IF HE'S RUNNING OR HILLARY'S RUNNING. IF ANYONE HAS ANY ANSWERS LET ME KNOW.......

Posted by: MAGGIE | May 25, 2008 9:58 PM

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Where the Clintons go to church.

Philosophy News Keywords: CLINTON
Source: Jeff Head
Published: 1997 Author: Mark E. Howerter
Posted on 06/19/2000 12:10:19 PDT by SERE81
Every time I wonder whether we are being too hard on the Clintons or not, some more info comes along which assures me we are not. Some have said that the Clintons only attended Glide Memorial Methodist Church in San Francisco once and that was way back in 1982. OK fine, then let's talk about the church they both attend regularly now in Washington, D.C. , the Foundry Memorial Methodist Church.

Any church would have to try awfully hard to keep up with the antics that regularly go on at Glide, but Foundry Memorial Methodist Church (which is about a mile from the White House) does a good job of trying to do just that. While I haven't uncovered any stories about topless dancers at Foundry like there have been at Glide, Foundry is still not far behind.

Take the homosexuality symposium held at Foundry for example. Jesus was spoken of as a "drag queen." Homosexual marriages were praised and the Ten Commandments were declared immoral. The keynote speaker was the infamous Episcopal Bishop John Spong who has trashed every Christian doctrine held dear by the true church since its birth in the first century.

Bishop Spong made fun of the star which led the wise men to the baby Jesus and then went on to make fun of all Biblical prophecy claiming that, "People can't predict future events. It's a magical view of the Bible." If that wasn't enough he then attacked the virgin birth and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Spong said that events in Jesus' life didn't happen the way they are reported in the Bible, but were just "interpreted" that way. Spong also claimed that the Apostle Paul was a "self-hating homosexual" and that legitimizing homosexuality within the church is " a total justice issue exactly like the civil rights movement."

How were Bishop Spong's beliefs received by Foundry's pastor, J. Philip Wogaman? Wogaman said, "Bishop Spong's remarks this morning were so stimulating," noting that he shares concerns about a "literalistic" view of the Bible.

"The day-long 'celebration' was organized by PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays). Called 'Sharing Our Rainbow of Light,' the November 10 (1995) symposium's speakers surprised even their mostly homosexual audience of several hundred persons with their denial of traditional religious beliefs."

Posted by: HILAARY'S CONSERVATIVE VALUES | May 25, 2008 9:58 PM

Hillary needs a shrink. Is she on some kind of psycho medication. She makes this strange statement and now it's Obama's fault.

Obama is cool level headed and never throws the tantrums Hillary does.

OBAMA 08

Posted by: carmen | May 25, 2008 9:59 PM

Hillary Clinton NEVER takes responsibility and her supporters are blaming Obama for everything. Hillary and Bill Clinton playing the victim is totally ridiculous...they are very seasoned politicians and dish out a lot more than they get. They have LOTS of baggage and Obama (and other candidates) could have displayed all their dirty laundry on a daily basis but he NEVER did this.

Blame, Blame, Blame. Always someone else's fault. Is there any Clinton supporter with the guts to admit that there was anything she and her campaign did wrong at all this entire campaign...just one little thing?

Barack Obama is NOT responsible for:
- Clinton $20 Million plus in debt
- Clinton mismanaging her own campaign
- Clinton's words
- Clinton's husband's words/actions
- Underestimating the caucus voters
- Paying millions to Penn and others
- Many voters who made THEIR OWN decision NOT to vote for Clinton.


Posted by: So | May 25, 2008 9:59 PM

WENDELL:
"Yes Craig there is a long way to go'all that means is thats more time for people to realize he needs more experience than just being able to deliver an inspiring speech to become President of the United States."

Probably the most experienced President we've ever had was a state representative, then spent 10 years each in the House and Senate, served as Secretary of State, Ambassador to Russia, Minister to the Court of St. James (Britian). He was James Buchanan, and on many "Worst President Ever" lists he comes in at the top.

He was followed by some little-known Republican from Illinois named Lincoln.

The moral: prior experience is not a good measure of how successful a President will be.

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 10:00 PM

Did anyone hear David Gergen suggest that Hillary should tell those who voted for her in West Virginia and Kentucky that she does not want their vote if it is motivated by racism, that is, an unwillingness to vote a black president in as leader of this country ?
Everyone should be aware that this in fact is something that has come out of the polling in these states. It doubtless is a factor in other states as well. So a large percentage of her vaunted "popular vote" is based on this bigoted point of view which may well cost Obama the election. Perhaps this is what Hillary counts on and the reason for her persistence.
Everyone who understands the stakes in this election should work to convince at least one person to overcome such sentiments and look at the man's qualities, consider the seriousness of this moment in the country's history. He truly is the post-racism candidate. He is not part of the point of view: it is injected into the race by others, and propelled by a hatred that is prepared to sacrifice the country in the service of it.
The Clinton turn-around on African American reality is a shocking fact. The triumph Hillary seeks is at a shameful cost.

Posted by: patwin | May 25, 2008 10:00 PM

I can no longer support Hillary.

Can anyone imagine what Hillary would be saying, if the situation were reversed, and she were ahead and Obama mentioned the word "assassination" in a comment about why he was staying in the race?

I am very sad. I would ike to see our first woman president, but I can no longer support Hillary.


Posted by: Trish Saucedo | May 25, 2008 10:01 PM

I don't understand Hillary Clinton. I cannot fathom why she feels she must attempt to show this nation that she can lie more than George W. Bush.

Senator Clinton is fortunate that Saturday Night Live has gone dark for the summer. If they had a show this week, we would have seen Senator Clinton, former Arkansas Governor Huckabee and Vice-President Cheney on a hunting trip with Barack Obama -- only Senator Obama would wonder why he was the only one without a gun.

Brian

Posted by: Brian Richards | May 25, 2008 10:03 PM

The Clinton's are low-life hill-billy refugees from Hee-Haw who have fooled a lot of people for a very long time.

If the Democrats lose in November it will be the third presidential election in a row lost thanks to these two pygmies.

Posted by: Jack O'Rourke | May 25, 2008 10:04 PM

Obama's camp is so corrupt that it makes my skin crawl. The media with Obama's campaign's help again tried to take something less than a molehill and make sure that it was mountainous. Hillary's mention of Robert Kennedy had nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with his assasination. Hillary's playing dirty! Are you insane? She can't say anything or BO and his people make it monstrous. BO came out to make light of it like he always does while he allows those in his campaign to show outrage. Oldest trick in the book. He looks like he's such a decent person and lets the others in his campaign make the hateful statements. Now he's telling students at Wesleyan what they can do for their Country. I guess the metamorphesis has been completed taking JFK's idea of what "you can do for your Country." I have never seen such a groomed robot put in front of the American public to completely seduce them to vote his way. It's incredible. He has shown me how very stupide and gullible Americans have become. Two wrongs don't ever make a right, people, and this man is so wrong. Who in the heck is this guy? I mean he has no substance AT ALL. He is who each of you blind followers want him to be...the only thing missing is a guitar on his hips because you are all bedazzled by his apparent rock star appeal. He is memorizing speeches and says NOTHING and you're all going around like idiots for this empty carcass of a person. If it wasn't so dangerous, it would be completely hillarious. Hillary is not the problem....Obama has put forth on this Nation a huge problem that only Americans can rectify by turning away from this man supported by many corrupt Chicago political thugs, by Jesse Jackson and others like him. If he doesn't think the same as Rev. Wright, the racist, anti-American, anti-Semite, then Obama's judgment is in the toilet. Either way, he is the plague for this Naiton. WAKE UP!

Posted by: Mod1 | May 25, 2008 10:05 PM

Jessica speak for yourself i am white and i want Obama so do many people here in Westchester where she lives . They call her nasty.

Posted by: carmen | May 25, 2008 10:07 PM

The Clinton's an associates are certainly experts on that corrupt type of 'experience' which is not need it in this country. We have had enough of bad politics, con people, and shear manipulation.
Now, it appears that the difficult relationship with the truth is not just Mr. and Mrs Clinton legacy; it appears that even their staff has also learned the trick.
It is not surprising; there is not a dream, a vision, motivating them in their jobs...they just do what you have to do ...for money.

We do not need more mercenary approach to public service.
We need a new generation of politicians to lead us into the future.

Posted by: PCM 01 | May 25, 2008 10:08 PM

Luc: A full 50% of all Americans had a negative opinion of Hillary before she started her run for White House.

Over the past months, she has polarized and alienated even more people with her divisive manner.

The "drop the bomb, apologize, spin and repeat" tactics used to bring up wedge issues over and over again are unbecoming of anyone running for Dog Catcher, much less our highest office.

The idea HRC would able to Unite, Lead or Inspire this Nation is a delusional fantasy and completely irrational.

Posted by: x32792 | May 25, 2008 10:08 PM

you hiliary supporters are sick i bet you think this is ok also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

Posted by: lisa | May 25, 2008 10:09 PM

Though I would not vote Hillary except to save my life, Obama's campaign advisers need to be renamed to "cronies." The old politics, the change the average guy like me wants, and the twisting of words has not gone away. Shame on Obama and his cronies! No way did Hillary mean anything but the fact that primaries can, and have gone, into June.

Posted by: Patrick | May 25, 2008 10:09 PM

How ridiculous!! The gall of this woman. Hillary Clinton and her campaign continue to insult the intelligence of the American people. No amount of explanation can mask what she said and meant. She said what she meant and she meant what she said; "out of the heart, the mouth speaks". People are not stupid. Now the whole world knows what a vile and evil person she is and that she's hoping someone will hurt Barack so she will be the one left standing. She's already planting the seed in the minds of some "hard-working" persons to try to "do away" with Obama. But she ought to be careful that what she wishes for someone else doesn't befall her. My grandparents used to say "If you spit in the sky, it will fall in your eye"
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Bramptonian | May 25, 2008 10:09 PM

you wake up or you may never wake up.

Posted by: carmen | May 25, 2008 10:10 PM

I wonder if Clinton will set up her headquaters for Duchess of Appalacha in KY or WV?

I hope they make that horrendous orange tie Bill wears evey other day their offical flag.

Posted by: BobBarr
-------------------
Hi BobBarr, Hilliary's Appalacian Queen B House will have the East Wing in West Virginia and the West Wing in Kentucky. She'll have thugs keeping their eyes on all the bigots and racists to make sure they NEVER change their views, afterall Chelsea might need them sometime down the road. She will also make sure these bigots and racists never become educated or rise above their poverty. You see, they'll still be contributing their $1 to $5 donations to help run her Queen B house. Going back to keeping them uneducated....my goodness, if they get educated they might be able to READ above the 7th grade level and they may learn words like "hypocrite" and "integrity" and might not support her because now they would KNOW she has NO integrity and that she is a hypocrite.

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 10:10 PM

Mod1: Wake up, you say?
How about taking your meds and going to sleep like a good girl.
Night night, sweetie. Go to bed now.

Posted by: Ma Kettle | May 25, 2008 10:10 PM

First rule of holes: when you are in one, stop digging.

Posted by: It's better in the Obamas | May 25, 2008 10:11 PM

Mod1 wrote:

"Obama's camp is so corrupt that it makes my skin crawl. The media with Obama's campaign's help again tried to take something less than a molehill and make sure that it was mountainous. Hillary's mention of Robert Kennedy had nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with his assasination. Hillary's playing dirty! Are you insane?'

Wow. Talk about denial. You say her comment about RFK had "nothing to do with his assassination"

But she herself is the one who used the word "assassination" when she invoked RFK in her comments.

Are you totally delusional, or do you think that just by saying something you make it true? Or are you just trying to delude others?


Posted by: Jean Brummet | May 25, 2008 10:13 PM

All of you who are offended by what you perceive was such a horrific statement by Hillary about Robert Kennedy are just Obama supporters, thinking that you will make non-Obama supporters, those of us who are not easily led by the nose and are able to think for ourselves, run from Hillary to Obama. The Obama fever is only contagious to ignorant, stupid sheep. Most of us know we can't catch it; we're just stunned to see so much stupidity in our Nation.

Posted by: Arthur | May 25, 2008 10:13 PM

Everyone, please reread the title of this article:

"Clinton Camp Stokes RFK Flap by Blaming Obama"

It IS the Clintons who are stoking Hilliary's RFK "Flap" by blaming Senator Obama. There you have it!! The TRUTH!!

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 10:14 PM

To Ma Kettle -- this is what we mean by stupid followers of Obama. You epitomize the type of person following him and lapping it up like a good dog. Go get your bone now.

Posted by: Mod1 | May 25, 2008 10:14 PM

ok.. let me get this straight.. SHE makes the gaffe.. and then blames Obama? hmmmm.. so was it also his fault that she actually didnt land in Bosna under sniper fire?... so pretty much everything SHE does wrong. is someone elses fault? what kind of a person doesnt own up to what they say? dont tell me if YOU say something that sounds terrible YOU dont appologize? well.. HRC doesnt. she blames the person she said it about.... it that tough.. or just warped?

Posted by: Levi Cro | May 25, 2008 10:15 PM

I can not beleive some of the post on this blog. None of us know anything about none of these candidates other than what we are being told and yet we all think we know them and what's best and who is bad. One thing for sure none of us is presidental material.

Posted by: Cheryl L | May 25, 2008 10:17 PM

Arthur: The Clintons and McCain are the ultimate insiders.

A vote for them is a vote for a seamless continuation of the best government Special Interests can buy and a guarantee of Business As Usual In Washington.

We need a new crop of less accomplished w-h-o-r-e-s in Washington, but you vote for what you feel comfortable with.

Posted by: x32792 | May 25, 2008 10:18 PM

Obama is no Kennedy. He's a wanna be Kennedy, a wanna be black, a wanna be candidate and he wanna someone to carry him over the finish line because one thing he is for sure is lazy. No experience, no lineage, no voting record, no nothing but lazy. Speaks above the fray while his dirty little doers do his dirty work for him. So that makes him not only lazy but a coward too.

My party has convinced me that after 35 years of support, financially and physically, I have been wrong--painfully, I have been terribly and absolutely wrong. The Obama campies make Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Fox look passive.

This comes off the 8-year Bush bitterness. I (we) will indeed vote John McCain--Obama campies can attempt to wave off that reality but ...no, I will indeed vote and it will never be for Obama.

After viewing what Obama is capable of, how he does business, what he allows his campies to do, it is not acceptable. And guess what? Hillary as VP will not work for me. Too little, too late.

The Obama campies are a mentally sick lot. For a democrat to actually suggest that Hillary Clinton hoped/suggested the assignation of Obama by the mention of a Kennedy assignation is an outrage, an absolute abomination. That is nothing more/less than the typical "all about Obama" mentality these cretins live and how dare Mr. Obama think he is in the same arena as a Kennedy.

Obama campies are referred to as Kool-Aid drinkers for a reason. There is no thought or reason for their actions.

Posted by: Pansycritter | May 25, 2008 10:18 PM

To: Jean Brummet

Yes, she mentioned assassination becausse that is the month, JUNE, when he was assassinated, but she was just pointing out that he was still campaigning for the party nomination into the month of JUNE. What is wrong with you? She wasn't trying to do harm by just mentioning that he was still working hard in JUNE to get the nomination but, unfortunately, he was assassinated. That is a fact, something that Obama and his followers, like yourself, can't handle. You stick with his uplifting, empty sermons. Why are we as a Nation to be "gagged" because it offends this person and that person? Too bad. Fact is fact. You obviously like the "feel good" speeches. What a waste.

Posted by: Mod1 | May 25, 2008 10:21 PM

It's not over until it's over. Why does Clinton want all the delegates seated? Because she intends to make her case at the convention in Aug. All hell is going to break loose at the convention. Hillary isn't going to quit. Why should she? She's not so far behind Obama (a few hundred delegates), and believes that only she can win the general election and unite the party. She can't quit. Her people know Obama is unelectable. All this Fox News, O'Reilly appearances, help from Rush is just done out of spite-she had this nomination in the bag if not for Obama. They are using her to damage Obama, and she is using them to get free media time.

Posted by: Joseph | May 25, 2008 10:22 PM

JUST CURIOUS, DOES ANYBODY KNOW HILLARY'S
MEDICIAL HISTORY? SHE DISPLAYS ALL THE SIGNS OF BEING BIPOLAR WHICH WOULD BE OKAY IF SHE REMEMBERS HER MEDICATION! I THINK SHE LOST THEM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. OR MAYBE IT WAS INTENTIONAL SO HER AND BILLY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THE WAY HOME AFTER CAIN'S PARTY.

ALSO DO YOU THINK BILL LEFT SOMETHING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ,? MY GOD HE ACT'S LIKE HE'S GOING TO BLOW A GASKET IF HILLARY LET'S HIM DOWN. IN FACT I'M NOT SURE MOST DAYS IF HE'S RUNNING OR HILLARY'S RUNNING. IF ANYONE HAS ANY ANSWERS LET ME KNOW.......

Posted by: MAGGIE 55 CA. | May 25, 2008 10:23 PM

Arthur, I believe that once you've had foot-in-mouth disease that you are immune to "Obama fever", as you call it. You Clintonistas are safe, son.

Posted by: Ma Kettle | May 25, 2008 10:23 PM

"Obama senior strategist David Axelrod dodged questions about why the campaign was still circulating commentaries criticizing Clinton even after suggesting it wants to move beyond the controversy?"

WHAT commentaries? Circulated to whom? Exactly what was Axelrod asked, and exactly what was his answer? WHAT KIND OF JOURNALISM IS THIS?

rocknation

Posted by: rocknation | May 25, 2008 10:24 PM

JUST CURIOUS, DOES ANYBODY KNOW HILLARY'S
MEDICIAL HISTORY? SHE DISPLAYS ALL THE SIGNS OF BEING BIPOLAR WHICH WOULD BE OKAY IF SHE REMEMBERS HER MEDICATION! I THINK SHE LOST THEM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. OR MAYBE IT WAS INTENTIONAL SO HER AND BILLY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THE WAY HOME AFTER CAIN'S PARTY.

ALSO DO YOU THINK BILL LEFT SOMETHING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ,? MY GOD HE ACT'S LIKE HE'S GOING TO BLOW A GASKET IF HILLARY LET'S HIM DOWN. IN FACT I'M NOT SURE MOST DAYS IF HE'S RUNNING OR HILLARY'S RUNNING. IF ANYONE HAS ANY ANSWERS LET ME KNOW.......

Posted by: MAGGIE 55 CA. | May 25, 2008 10:24 PM

The comments Clinton made are like a Rorschach blot. They can be read in several ways, depending on the frames of reference of the person who hears them.

The interpretation read into Clinton's comments about RFK are more a reflection on those who have read things into the comments and what they think her comments mean, than anything else.

This episode is only really significant to the extent to which it lays bare the mysogyny and personalized politics of Clinton-hatred festering and boiling among Obama supporters. There seems to be a lot of hatred, paranoia, us-versus-them and other ill feelings against Clinton in the Obama camp.

Posted by: Reverse Psychology | May 25, 2008 10:25 PM

TO: x32792

Oh, thanks for telling me to vote for who I feel comfortable with. Like I need your permission. To call McCain a Washington "w h o r e" is disgusting. Do you know who is funding Obama's run for the Presidency? No. Well, you do what you're comfortable with as well and as unfortunate as that will be for our Nation.

Posted by: Arthur | May 25, 2008 10:26 PM

Man! Isure hope some of you people don't live close to me! BIGOTS! RACISTS! SEXISTS!

I'll bet all of you don't really talk this way in public, you'd get your butts kicked!

You throw trash on her like it's the truth. You probably aren't even registered.

Posted by: Stuart | May 25, 2008 10:29 PM

Ma Kettle:

You have problems.

Posted by: SL | May 25, 2008 10:29 PM

"Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it."

Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM

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This has got out of hand. Hillary has got to go ... NOW!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 10:32 PM

George Smiley | May 25, 2008 8:13 PM

Thanks George a few sane words were definitely needed in here.

Posted by: Betty Darwin Chase | May 25, 2008 10:40 PM

How can it be these people are so damn arrogant? What damn right does Hillary or Bill Clinton have to demand their place in history? Bill is whining about "how unfair the press coverage is", never stopping to ask himself just how obnoxious both he and his wife have become.

Whatever little tiny bit of respect I had remaining for either one of them has totally been lost. Forever.

They are both beneath contempt, and have destroyed their legacy, but good.

Good riddance Bill and Hillary. I hope your daughter has the common sense to stay the hell away from both of you.

Posted by: shpilk | May 25, 2008 10:40 PM

Just another Pleasant Valley Sunday in main stream media land. All the MSM talking heads and their biased guest surrogates on the morning news shows have pretty much written 'poor Hillary' off and almost apologetically, have declared 'Hillary's dream over' and that 'it's time for the party to unite.' From their accounts, the latest RFK controversy finally did her in. It doesn't matter that the Obama campaign's dirty fingerprints are all over this one! For the record, it was Obama spokesman Bill Burton who pushed the story to all the media outlets calling Hillary's comments 'unfortunate' in what was obviously another underhanded attempt to get her out of the race for once and for all! The Obama campaign spinners could care less about the truth! It didn't matter that the South Dakota newspaper editorial board and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., both defended Senator Clinton saying there was no intended malice in her remarks. Even Senator Obama publicly stated he took no personal offense. The fact is the Obama campaign knew perfectly well that offering any sort of criticism at Hillary over the RFK comments, however vague, ensured that this would become a major story and the MSM would be all over it, and over it again, during the Memorial Day weekend. Then the damage would be done! And now, once the story has blown up, we shouldn't be too surprised that Obama chief strategist David Axelrod explicitly states that he didn't believe she'd meant the worst, claiming that he didn't think she was hoping that a "tragic, catastrophic event" would "intervene."... And when specifically asked about the continued circulation of their media advisory, he dodged the question, and the media did not press him on it further! Obama and his dirty politics are no different than those of the swift boaters. He's a hypocrite in a black suit who will do anything to win!

Posted by: mpwynn | May 25, 2008 10:43 PM

I'm an Obama supporter and no longer a fan of HRC as a candidate, but I have mixed feelings about this whole controversy. I guess in good conscious, I am just not cynical enough to believe that HRC was trying to imply that she was waiting it out in case something tragic happened. HRC is a lot of things, but she isn't dumb, and that would just be dumb. BUT, I think she should have left the assassination part out of her statement, the first, second, and third time that she said it. It wasn't necessary to make her point, and given the implications behind that statement, it was just something that was better left unsaid.

Also, I don't think that the Obama campaign should have commented on this issue in the first place. A simple, no comment would have sufficed. I get the feeling that they feel forced to respond to every perceived slight, when sometimes it is not necessary. However, I have to agree that the statement was careless. I mean, I just can't figure out why she said it. She's smarter than this. Even for people who say she was just bringing up the time frame for primary seasons that have gone past June, as many of the commenters have already pointed out, that argument doesn't stand up. RFK had just gotten into the race in February/March of 68'. He wasn't in a long, drawn out primary battle like this one (and neither was her husband for that matter). So her analogy doesn't hold water.

Maybe we are all being too sensitive. Maybe people should just take a deep breath and relax. But after reflecting on this, I can't shake this nagging feeling. She should have known better. As the spouse of a former President she should know better. As someone who is well aware of the death threats against Obama in this campaign, she should know better. As a student of history, she should know better.

Has there been overkill on this issue, yes. Are some people using this as yet another excuse to rag on HRC, yes. But, I don't think she can play the victim in this case. As "bitter gate" has taught us, you can't leave your remarks open to a negative interpretation, and unfortunately, this is exactly what happened. It might be unfair, and shortsighted, but she was more than willing to jump on that "gaffe" and ride it to the wheels came off, so now she is just going to have to muddle through this controversy.

Posted by: Rachel | May 25, 2008 10:43 PM

To give her the benefit of the doubt is to equate her verbal skills with those of the current Bumbler-in-Chief. Perhaps on this point we're so used to and comfortable with the bar being lowered that many will argue that terminal foot-in-mouth disease does not preclude someone from becoming the official spokesman and leader of the free world.

A less generous assessment of her comment might explain why so many of us have been unable to grapple with the mathematics of her remaining in the race. To wit: the numbers simply don't add up. Simple addition of currently pledged, and future potential delegates do not yield any hope of a Clinton victory. Eureka, it was never about addition at all; it's SUBTRACTION, people. Forget the notion of two plus one equals three; try two MINUS one equals ME. And all this time I thought she was math challenged! Go figure.

Obama has with out a doubt offered the kindest and most sympathetic take on the whole sorry mess - a veritable olive branch, in contrast to the oaken club with which HRC pummeled him for his word choice, "bitter" several weeks back. His response, an emphatically Christian one, is further evidence of a reasoned, judicious and charitable temper- all of these being estimable qualities in a President. While the aroma of her "Black Friday" will cling to her like the putrescence of a three- week-dead albatross hanging from her neck, Obama will emerge from this miserable miasma smelling like a rose. And rightfully so!


Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008 10:44 PM


For the more informed voter this is Great History. Carter was ahead of Kennedy 60-30% and now logical this will go to the convention also.
May 13, 2008, 4:00 a.m.

Hill and Ted's Excellent Adventures
1980 redux?

By James S. Robbins

As the obituaries for the Clinton campaign rolled in last week by the media, the candidate herself refused to be buried. She said that she would stay in the race "until there is a nominee." Most seemed to think that this meant that she would concede defeat if the Obama campaign could assemble enough pledged delegates and super-delegates to pass the magic number of 2025 -- or 2209 according to the Clinton campaign. But whatever the number, there will be no official nominee until the votes are cast at the party convention. What I heard in that statement was that Hillary was taking her fight to DENVER.
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Is this realistic? Most analysts are writing her off. But ask yourself: Does Hillary Clinton have as much gumption as Ted Kennedy did in 1980? Back then he went all the way to the convention, using many of the same arguments against Jimmy Carter that the Clinton campaign is currently employing, though he had a much weaker hand.

In late May 1980 the primaries were almost over. Ronald Reagan had recently clinched the GOP nomination, having gained the necessary delegates to force George H.W. Bush out of the race. President Carter, who had expected to be easily renominated, was facing a tough challenge by Senator Edward Kennedy, who was capitalizing on concerns of some Democrats that Carter, saddled with a poor economy and a series of foreign-policy disasters, would be unelectable in the fall. Kennedy had amassed a substantial number of delegates, but Carter was only 28 short of the 1,666 needed to nominate. The final eight primaries were to be held on "Super Tuesday" June 3, with the largest prize California. Carter campaign maintained that Kennedy's hopeless challenge was damaging to party unity, and that he should drop out of the race. Kennedy in fact had offered to withdraw if the president agreed to a debate with the senator (which Carter had been ducking), and if he subsequently won most of the June 3 primaries. The Carter team rejected the idea, but it allowed Kennedy to claim he was acting in good faith and the best interests of the party. Two days before the final primaries Kennedy stated, "I am not prepared to withdraw from this race. I believe that it can be won -- and that it must be won, for the good of our party and our country."

When the Super Tuesday results were in, Carter had won in Ohio, West Virginia ,and Montana. It was, in his words, a "wondrous victory." He garnered 320 delegates, pushing his total to 1,958, well over the 1,666 needed to nominate, and over 700 more than Kennedy's 1,215. He offered "the hand of friendship" to the senator, whom he thought would acknowledge defeat, since the nomination was mathematically impossible at that point.

But Kennedy was not ready to concede. Quite the opposite. "The people have decided that this campaign must go on," he declared. "The people have decided that what counts is not the quantity of delegates, but the quality of their lives." Kennedy had won 53 percent of the total delegates at stake on Super Tuesday, taking California, New Jersey, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and New Mexico. It was his best night of the season.
Kennedy maintained that the president could not carry the larger states necessary to secure a win in November. Kennedy pointed to his own big-state successes -- in addition to California and New Jersey, the senator had previously taken Michigan, Pennsylvania, and New York. Carter also faced crippling disenchantment within his party that would make post-convention unity difficult. Polling showed that while Carter won Ohio, 29 percent of that state's Democrats thought he was an "unacceptable" presidential candidate. In California, 41 percent of Democrats said they could not support Carter in the fall. "Tonight is the first night of the rest of the campaign," Sen. Kennedy said after the late California results came in. "Today, Democrats from coast to coast were unwilling to concede the nomination to Jimmy Carter and neither am I.
But most Democrats were not Kennedy backers. He only had 36 percent of the total delegates, against Carter's 58 percent, and had amassed 38 percent of the popular vote in the primaries, against Carter's 51 percent. A Gallup Poll of Democrats May 16-18 showed Carter favored over Kennedy 60 percent to 30 percent, with 10 percent undecided. A Harris survey around the same time showed Carter preferred by Democrats 56 percent to 34 percent. By way of contrast, Hillary Clinton has 48 percent of delegates, 47 percent of the popular vote -- which will probably increase -- and current polling shows Clinton barely trailing Obama for support among Democrats nationwide.
The question of electability was muddled in 1980 by the mania for Republican splinter candidate John Anderson, who then was at the height of his popularity. A mid-May Harris poll showed Reagan at 39 percent, Carter at 33 percent and Anderson 23 percent. (Anderson drew 6.6 percent in November.) One poll showed that Secretary of State Edmund Muskie would be a more popular alternative to Carter than Kennedy, implying that the attraction was not so much to Kennedy as to the fact that he was not Carter. Muskie was polling even with Ronald Reagan at the time, while Carter was seven points down. This was during the short-lived "Draft Muskie" movement in June that was seen as a favorable alternative to a deadlocked convention. (These days "Draft Gore" is the functional equivalent.)

Kennedy kept his challenge going throughout the summer, even while admitting his campaign was seriously short on cash. The floor fight commenced in New York in August, Kennedy seeking rule changes to "free the delegates." Harold Ickes, now Sen. Clinton's chief delegate hunter, was one of Senator Kennedy's point men in the 1980 delegate fight. But the effort was in vain, and on August 12 Kennedy conceded, delivering the memorable lines, "For me, a few hours ago, this campaign came to an end. For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." Kennedy left the race, snubbed Carter on the dias, and the rest is history.

Comparing the 1980 contest to today's, Hillary Clinton has a far stronger rationale for her continued candidacy than Ted Kennedy, a much larger proportion of the delegates, a greater percentage of the popular vote, a much easier fight under the convention rules (because there were no super-delegates available to be persuaded in 1980), and substantially higher poll numbers among Democrats generally. Kennedy took his fight all the way to the convention floor with the intention of winning the nomination. There is no reason to believe the Clinton campaign will do anything
less.

-- NRO contributor James S. Robbins is the director of the Intelligence Center at Trinity Washington, and author of Last in Their Class: Custer, Picket and the Goats of West Point.
-- James S. Robbins is senior fellow in national-security affairs at the American Foreign Policy Council, a trustee for the Leaders for Liberty Foundation,


Posted by: Roosevelt1 | May 25, 2008 10:45 PM

I remember just a couple months ago when Obama made the gaffe about people in PA clinching to guns and religion that Clinton responded in a much more offensively minded manner than Obama did on this one. People demonize Obama for the same stuff nowhere near as cunning as Clinton has done over and over again given the opportunity. Now all the sudden Clinton has a gaffe of her own and we'd swear Obama is the anti-christ. Some objectivity please?

If the Clinton folk take the time to actually listen to the exchange they'll find Obama was actually putting himself out there too. As in he empathized with the position having admitted to making similar mistakes himself. Have we seen that form of humility from HRC on a mistake of her opponents? Not even hardly. Every chance she had to use his mistakes she took em. Now its coming back around and her supporters can't handle the heat. What a joke. Go vote for McCain because she's going down. Talk about ignorance. Lets go vote for the guy whose platform has evolved to emulate everything we've hated about the last 8 years over petty disputes. Children! GROW UP!

Posted by: fortheclueless | May 25, 2008 10:45 PM

Terry McAuliffe is just as much of a hypocritical mess as his candidate! She could of at least apologized to Obama, AS WELL AS, the Kebbedy's. Her heart is under the two things she walks on!

Posted by: Curt | May 25, 2008 10:46 PM

I'm a little confused, John, on the reference to the 14th Amendment. If Wright, Rezko, et al, disqualifies Obama from running, wouldn't Whitewater, WH Travel Office, WRIGHT!!, mysterious deaths of Vince Foster & Ron Brown and staff - not to mention cozing up with the Chinese/Columbians/etc, no tax records for 2 years and campaign donations from International Profit Associates (women should love that one!), just to name a few, have stopped clinton from even running? Maybe she'd have more money to funnel into her campaign if she didn't have to pay off Jennifer Flowers and Paul Jones. Now, if they would just release the names of the donors to the Clinton Library!!

Posted by: PDee | May 25, 2008 10:46 PM

I just read about the Fox News commentator jokingly calling for the assassination both of "Osama" and "Obama". Why is this getting so little coverage in the media. A commentator on a national network actually called for the assassination of a Senator and candidate for the presidency. Even as a joke that is wrong. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/fox-pundit-wishes-for-oba_b_103500.html

on youtube.

Posted by: Bob Phillips | May 25, 2008 10:47 PM

Dear Hill&Bill,

"I complete faith that a country that 'clings to guns & religion' will find away to ensure Barack Hussien Obama isn't our next President. One way or another."

"Hillary will be there to pick up the pieces and ensure we win in November."

Your response when I suggested the WaPo consider this a personal threat on Barack's life and report to the FBI:

"My one way or another remark referred to Hillary & John McCain. One way or the other, Obama will lose."

How does this logically jive? If it's McCain that's going to end up beating Obama, then how is it "Hillary will be there to pick up the pieces and ensure we win in November." Huh?

Please understand: These types of comments, thoughts, and yes, threats...are no longer acceptable in the 21st century of the U.S. of A. We have moved beyond them. As respectfully as I can communicate to you: You are responsible for what you post, and the way you post it. And when the topic is assassination of a public figure, you might do well to ask yourself if how you're wording something "fits" the topic. And again, with all due respect: Your later posted "explanation"...does NOT follow logically with your original post. Otherwise, it wouldn't be just "Hillary" picking up the pieces in November "ensuring we win," but you would have mentioned McCain as well. Possibly, with calls for reporting your post to the FBI, you may have rethought your words. I am thankful for that.

BTW: I would respectfully request you not call me an "idiot." I have not called you one, nor was it implied.

I am simply concerned about death threats to a candidate. It's no secret Barack has had more than his share of them, and with some of the posts I've seen, including the continued use of the "Hussein" thing (something you did), the non-stop hate references toward Muslims, numerous mentions of "guns," and, for example, the person who suggested "We just need to lure that Hussien boy to a picnic with chicken and watermelon. Then us small town folk who cling to guns & religion will show him what we do with them guns"...

Granted, he later apologized. But this is no joke. This stuff all needs to be reported to the FBI.

Not overreacting here. There's history, there's continued threats on his life, there's people still ready to lynch Blacks, and individuals/groups who are filled with enormous hate who might like to...well, enough said.

And for the record: I do not hate you. I only wish to hold you accountable.

Posted by: Barbyrah | May 25, 2008 10:47 PM

Terry McAuliffe is just as much of a hypocritical mess as his candidate! She could of at least apologized to Obama, AS WELL AS, the Kebbedy's. Her heart is under the two things she walks on!

Posted by: Curt | May 25, 2008 10:47 PM

its time for hill to head for the hills, she has run a poor campaign and is now broke. Barack has run a successful campaign and has lots of money and support. he will probably be next prez.

Posted by: george | May 25, 2008 10:48 PM

Hillary Clinton is obviously among the least qualified people to ever hold any national elected office. Clearly her continued tactics demonstrate the unlikelihood of her ever approaching the higher standards of integrity found in historical figures such as Richard Nixon and Joseph McCarthy. Her candidacy and behavior throughout the campaign is such a shame.

Posted by: DemocraticSpeaker | May 25, 2008 10:49 PM

Please stop racist to Hillary! But Obama do. Hillary is world's best president in the United State! I voted for her. Obama is not good! I heard people said Obama is same as Bush. Wow! If Obama win, many people will protest against Obama. Serious. US only allow white president only. Black president is illegal alien. I warning all to my friends to know. Don't ruin our country!

Posted by: Guest86
Guest86, I see you are another of Hilliary's base voter, an uneducated racist and a bigot. You cretins still live in the days of hate and segregation and have never even made the effort to move forward with the rest of America. How sad that you prefer to remain uneducated, illeterate, a racist, and a bigot and so filled with hate toward another humanbeing. That is NOT what Jesus teaches us.

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 10:50 PM

What's ironic is ... during bitter gate, the Clinton camp were allowed to take Obama's words out of context and define to the world, especially what they mean. But no one is allowed to take her words and define them, including the Kennedys or the Obamas.

Posted by: DJ | May 25, 2008 10:50 PM

I am most appalled by Hillary Clinton and Terry McAuliffe's collective belief that we all can't come to the conclusion ourselves that her comment (made at least 3 times) was intentional and politically motivated. She could have made her point with the reference to Bill's continuing to campaign in 1992, but she didn't stop there because she has an agenda. Even Karl Rove wouldn't have said that. That came right out of the Clinton Playbook. Truth be told, Bill's encouraging her to continue for the attention that he's getting and the opportunity to further philander.

To all of those women who continually look up to and support her simply because she was born a female - cut the puppet strings and think for yourself.

Posted by: Sharon | May 25, 2008 10:51 PM

**EDIT
She could have, at least, apologized to Obama, AS WELL AS, the KENNEDY's.

Posted by: Curt | May 25, 2008 10:52 PM

Everybody knows that attack is the best defense so she attacks...never mind it is stupid or so...Clintons are abole to do anything to win. Remember Bill one day saying: "I have never met this woman"...and second day acknowledged that he not only met that woman but had sexual relationship with her....so these are Clintons in their real colors

Posted by: Jarda1 | May 25, 2008 10:52 PM

Blaming it on Obama is dirty pool.

Remember the real adversary... McCain!

Posted by: Obama-niac | May 25, 2008 10:54 PM

We've had one too many clinton in the white house, and that one is nothing compared to this one. she will fry the old clinton over & over w/o so much as lifting even one finger.

Posted by: David | May 25, 2008 10:54 PM

When does that stupid cow make her exit? Her and those slicky boy operatives in her campaign need to slide away to oblivion.

Posted by: Obama/Clinton? HELL NO!!! | May 25, 2008 10:55 PM

Rather than fixate on Obama's twenty year membership in his church, some of you who are still flogging that dead horse might care to examine Hillary's much longer marriage to Bill. As far as unholy alliances go this one takes the cake. Why does no one else see her life-long partnership with a conniving, deceitful cheat as obvious evidence that she too has erred grievously as a judge of character? Paula Jones. Gennifer Flowers, Monica whatshername? Fool me once, shame on you and all that. The man is a serial cheat whose record of infidelity presumably is far longer than what is known to the world and with which he has brought shame and humiliation to his family.

I would only hope that she might do better in assessing the character and integrity of counselors and advisors than she did in selecting mates. As it is she's at least as gullible and guilty as Obama in his association with Pastor Wright.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 10:55 PM

Atleast Hillary Clinton does not have a Obama- Rev. Wright and McCain's Hagee problem.- not yet. She has had problems with some comments but nothing serious involving her with any pastor or other such serious problems.

Posted by: nazirmo | May 25, 2008 10:56 PM

That's it my pretty little donkeys...keep fighting amongst yourselves...yeees.. this is truly delicious!!!

McCain/Romney 08

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 10:57 PM

I say this if Hillary were republican, would you vote for Hillary. Does it matter about her charecter...you know telling the truth. Someone needs to take a moment and ask why is she staying in this campaign if it were not for an expected tragedy to impact Obama. We are all Americans and we as Democrats have one common goal to get rid of the horrific GOP party that has reduced many of us to the lowest financial point we have been in in recent history. Time for a change. Think of the big picture.

Posted by: Belinda | May 25, 2008 10:57 PM

I live near a military base and have seen bumper stickers on cars that say; "Happiness is Hillary Clinton's face on a milk carton..." and could never understand how people could have such contempt for someone.

Now I get it.

Posted by: MiddleoftheRoad | May 25, 2008 10:57 PM

I'm sorry, but why is this offensive? I'm an Obama supporter and will vote for him in November and I can't understand why her statement about R. Kennedy was found offensive. Everyone knows she did not mean Obama yet they are making a big deal out of it to get her out of the race. Last time I checked, running for President is a democratic process so she can stay in it to the convention. Now what I do find offensive is Liz Trotta going on FOX and literally joking of the assassination of Obama along with Osama. If an uproar should be made, it should be to call Trotta out on a federal offense and arrested. Google Youtube - Liz Trotta, it happened today. FOX news should also publicly apologize.

Posted by: Laura | May 25, 2008 10:57 PM

I warned that the clintons would astonish him with their ingratitude.

Posted by: beaupritchard | May 25, 2008 10:58 PM

>>>THIS #3 ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Posted by: john |
******************************
Excuse my hysterical post. Being an idiot is exhausting, and like Hillary, I misspoke. Forgive my obvious stupidity.

Posted by: john | May 25, 2008 10:58 PM

So much irrelevant nitpicking over nothing during this campaign. She meant nothing, it means nothing.

Relevant points in my opinion:

Obama campaigns on slogans and says absolutely nothing specific until forced to at Democratic Debates.

Hillary does Q&A with the press and her audiences since 2007 and consistently talks specifics regarding Healthcare etc.

Obama is still intentionally a total mystery, good luck with 'President' Obama.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 25, 2008 10:58 PM

How telling is it that ONLY Robert F Kennedy Jr. has come forward to defend Hillary? And now the Clinton campaign claims that because Robert F Kennedy Jr. has forgiven her, everyone else should? It is not againt Robert F Kennedy Jr. that her offense was committed.

Posted by: Mia | May 25, 2008 10:59 PM

Hillary supporters by the millions have also poured their hearts and money into her reaching so far. Yes she has had to loan to her campaign. But her victory in Virginia and Kentucky has shown her resilience. She may not win the nomination. But the democratic party needs both Obama and Hillary together on one ticket to defeat McCain. Believe me neither Hillary nor Obama alone can win against McCain. The all too powerful lobby that support the Republican machine will once again spend millions and even cheat to put McCain in. However there is a slim chance that with the united forces of Hillary and Obama they can overcome the obstacles and get into the White House by a slim margin. But we need to put pressure on both hillary and Obama. If Obama wins then Hillary should be the V.P and if by some miracle Hillary wins then Obama should be the V.P On to victory.
I also strongly believe that Florida and Michigan must be counted but the only right solution is to have revotes or new primaries where voters return to the polling booths to show their true preference either for Obama or Hillary. First of all the rule was silly to start with. Then no one campaigned in those states. And Obama for whatever reason took his name off the ballot in Michigan. Anyways just what was DNC smoking to have made the stupid mistake ? There is no way Florida and Michigan can be excluded. That is like committing a suicide. Those voters are too important to exclude. But just splitting or allocating votes is not the right solution. Why should Obama or Hillary be afraid to face the voters the right way in those states ? But any revotes must be done quickly. If it is done by mail proper procedures must be in place so that there is no cheating or problems.
Ideally it would be better to let the voters go to the polling booths to recast their votes with both Obama and Hillary's names on the ballots.
Ultimately whatever happens the end result should be a dream ticket. It will be a huge mistake for either Obama or Hillary running against McCain. Bush and the republicans may be at their lowest ratings but that does not mean that McCain and the Republican machine cannot win.
If the democrats are smart and if important democratic politicians are smart they will pressure for a dream ticket.
I do not think that the differences that are present right now while the campaign is still on will cause any problems once the nominee is decided and once the dream team is formed and once the real campaigning starts against McCain. And by dream team I mean either Obama-Hillary or Hillary-Obama.

Posted by: nazirmo | May 25, 2008 11:00 PM

I want to go back to Chicago

Posted by: Michelle Obama | May 25, 2008 11:00 PM

..."and now we have what ... uh...some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama ...uh..um..Obama ....well both if we could "...

Liz Trotta on Fox News

Posted by: palefire | May 25, 2008 11:00 PM

Oh my Gog Craig, do you mean we have a black Abe Lincoln ?

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 11:00 PM

Hillary's antics would be laughable if they were not pathetic, sad and destructive to the democratic party.
Obama's team hasn't gone around wishing her dead -- 4 times -- the way she has wished her opponent would befall the fate of Bobby Kennedy. I just wonder how low Clinton will go. Every time I think she's hit bottom, she proves me wrong. Way wrong. God bless the Democratic Party! It's gonna need it!

Posted by: Wanakee Hill | May 25, 2008 11:01 PM

I can't believe this.. when all else fails blame Obama.. She really need to quit. She is the one who made the statement! Obama didn't twist her hand, she opened up that big mouth and let out a lion..
Hillary you really need to stop this..
The people are looking at you.. Instead of admitting you start accusing.. This is so sad. People can see right through your comments, You meant it, you said it, you are the one at fault..
Stop blaming others for your actions, just like Bosnia, you blame others when you started the lie.

Posted by: Janet | May 25, 2008 11:02 PM

How about what happened in July?? More history we cant mention ??How is MARY JO KOPECHNE oh wait she is still dead ... absolutely amazes me what some people get upset about and how they let other things like dead women just slide ....now .. what is obama taking umbrage about this time???

Posted by: Swannie | May 25, 2008 11:03 PM

HILLARY, PLEASE COME BACK TO REALITY. NOW MORE THAN EVER I BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD BE THE WRONG CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT. YOU LIVE IN AN ALTERNATE WORLD. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN WIN THIS NOMINATION WITH OR WITHOUT US. SUNRISE FLORIDA, MIAMI FLORIDA, RIVIERA BEACH FLORIDA, WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA, FT. LAUDERDALE FLORIDA, BELLE GLADE FLORIDA, FT. PIERCE FLORIDA, TAMPA FLORIDA, FLORIDA CITY FLORIDA, AND MORE, ARE FOR OBAMA. GET OVER IT HILLARY AND GET OUT..

WOMEN FOR OBAMA 08'

Posted by: FLORIDA BABY! | May 25, 2008 11:03 PM

Oh great another non-qualified person to take away a job from someone who is.

Posted by: Reverend Jamail | May 25, 2008 11:04 PM

Obama uses the word "cling" and Clinton turns it into a tv ad (complete with fake Pennsylvanians). Clinton uses the "a" word and Obama says he believes she did not mean it in an offensive way.

This is why Obama leads among educated people; they recognize hypocracy and lack of grace when they see it.

Posted by: Beth | May 25, 2008 11:04 PM

Obama is a misogynistic socialist Muslim who was educated in a terrorist school, a follower of a white-hating Christian preacher, a drug user, and a back alley abortionist with feminine characteristics who wants the Islamofacists to kill us all.

Please vote for John McCain. He isn't any of those things. Thank you.

Posted by: WingNutCentral | May 25, 2008 11:04 PM

Hillary has crossed the line so many times that it begins to lose its impact. Exactly like the famous 30% that comprise the Bush cult, Hillary's fan-base has no breaking point. There is nothing that she could ever say or do that could open their minds. That is not support or even idolatry - it is mental illness.

Posted by: hope4america | May 25, 2008 11:04 PM


I am undecided, but this surely won't make me vote for you! You and your lies, you won't make a good president.. Because when you make a mistake, you will blame others, just like you blamed 2004 for loosing 30,000 jobs in your home state..
You blamed it on Bush.. Well, it only proves you can't do what you promised so you blame others. Shame on You Hillary

Posted by: Michael in SD | May 25, 2008 11:05 PM

I think I figured it out. Clinton makes a stupid mistake (by revealing her true feelings, again) which was all anticipated and part of a vast Democratic conspiracy. Yes, I see it now .... She is un-freaking believable.

Posted by: Caroline | May 25, 2008 11:06 PM

Not overreacting here. There's history, there's continued threats on his life, there's people still ready to lynch Blacks, and individuals/groups who are filled with enormous hate who might like to...well, enough said.

And for the record: I do not hate you. I only wish to hold you accountable.

Posted by: Barbyrah | May 25, 2008 10:47 PM

Your right regarding history. That's why I wanted to clarify my remarks, to ensure its not being taken out of context.

Also, you need to look at what's actually a threat. The one implied threat you referred to, the person apologized.

I have yet to see a direct threat (which would be problematic IMO) outside that implied one while reading this blog, although it very possible I might have skipped over one.

Bottom line is, respectfully I think your jumping to conclusions. I understand your concern, and the perspective of wanting to see your guy succeed. However, nothing I said could be viewed as a threat unless your willing to read more into it than what was actually there.

Again, to reiterate, I support Hillary but wish no ill will towards Obama. I believe most Hillary supporters feel the same way. I don't want him to become president, but that's all I can do, is hope & wish he doesn't and support that goal with my voice. I simply don't believe he's the right candidate.

If you wish to call out every questionable remark you read on the internet, you'll be a pretty busy person. There is alot of places on the net where threats on Obama are quite common. I don't believe in violence so its disturbing to me as well, but its a reality of an anonomous venue such as the internet.

Posted by: Hill&Bill | May 25, 2008 11:08 PM

I am writing in Ron Paul so I am happy.

Barack, Hillary, how are you going to balance the budget? End the Trade deficit? Stop spending social security money for other things?

Posted by: Ed Pell from New York | May 25, 2008 11:08 PM

That Hillary Clinton would have assassination in back of her mind is not surprising. During the Clintons' reign in Arkansas and Washington some 50 people connected with them died by murder, suicide, unexplained accidents and sudden illnesses. Those voters who think the Clintons walk on water don't realize how close they came to turning our nation into a Mafia-style dictatorship.

Posted by: Carlos Navarro | May 25, 2008 11:08 PM

Please clarify...Hillary Clinton is running for the Democratic nomination here on the planet Earth???

Cause this woman must be from Mars. No human lifeform can be this mean and evil.

Remember Katherine Harris???

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:09 PM

If, God forbid, something should happen to Obama in the weeks until the Democratic convention, I believe that Hillary should be at the top of the suspect list. Her campaign thugs have been commenting in the media for weeks about some catastrophe occuring. I did not think they were talking about real assassination, I thought they were talking merely about character assassination. Now I am not so sure. Put a tail on her, Bill, McAuliffe, and Wolfson. I no longer trust her and her thugs at all.

Posted by: John S | May 25, 2008 11:10 PM

Attn: Wingnutcentral
Let me guess, that must be the same wing nut that holds your head on the horse's patoot, right? Tighten it up, a**hole, I think your brain just fell out!

Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008 11:10 PM

Hillary Clinton will continue to blame those who cry foul over the RFK remark. Hillary will decry that she's being accused of playing the assassination card - an unfortunate remark taken out of context - classic Clinton. It's all somebody else's fault. Besides, wouldn't yet another Kennedy (JFK Jr.) have been a shoe-in for her senate seat? Before the Clinton's began their end-run around the 22-Amendment, both of them knew there was a fatal flaw. The mere mention of a Hillary Clinton nomination should send paroxysms of moral indignation up and down the nation's collective spine. The Clintons: truly in a class by themselves: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | May 25, 2008 11:10 PM

Each candidate is a Senator. Their accomplishment, winning an election & writing legislation that may or may not have become law. They have never governed. No Senator has ever been elected to be President. The only indicator of how they will govern is their campaign and leadership style. Obama managed adopted the pay as you go concept. Very disciplined, hard working and self controled campaign. His only gaffe was the bitter one. The Wright thing and Ayers thing are contrived and are someone elses words not his. Hillary panders and lies.

Posted by: What is a good leader | May 25, 2008 11:11 PM

I reject and denounce HRC's comment.

But, I want to say one thing to the american people. I want you to listen to me, I am gonna say this again, I did not vote for that woman. I did not for this woman because I knew she is a nutcase.

Posted by: marylander | May 25, 2008 11:11 PM

To Nina K.

1. Before you start calling other people -- including a poster for whom English is clearly not her first language -- illiterate cretins, You need to improve your own writing skills.


2. Let's keep Jesus and his teachings out of this discussion, OK? Jesus -- and his advocates -- have made enough trouble in this campaign already. I think he needs to sit the rest of it out.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:11 PM

"Clinton uses the "a" word"

She used the comment as a time-line, and even so aploogized if it was taken as offensive. Obama's words were clearly both offensive and racial.

Posted by: Billw | May 25, 2008 11:12 PM

The title of Obama's next book is: The Audacity of Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: sedonakaren | May 25, 2008 11:12 PM

TO THE WAHINGTON POSE: Please, the author of the comments shown below needs to be reported to the proper authorities for threatening Senator Obama. This is the kind of reaction from those racists and bigots Hilliary was hoping for by her RFK comments. Shame on her!!!

"We just need to lure that Hussien boy to a picnic with chicken and watermelon. Then us small town folk who cling to guns & religion will show him what we do with them guns.

Posted by: His time is about up! | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM"

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 11:12 PM

THE QUESTION NEITHER THE CLINTONS NOR SOME SECTORS OF THE MEDIA HAVE YET TO ANSWER IS: Why do the Clintons so desperately want to return to the White House?" The Clintons are so desperate to remake the Bill Clinton legacy BEYOND THE POLLUTED DRAMA OF White Water and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Even on this, there is no guarantee that given the chance, they can--because Bill especially is still hard to control as a womanizer and scandal-prone personality. And the negatives of the Clintons remain so high! Still, they believe that if Obama should win the White House, he would eclipse them so spectacularly by his potential accomplishments that they would end up being a footnote in American Presidential history. They want to prevent this at all cost--and by any means! Furthermore, they have this sense of entitlement that they can't accept that the so-called Clinton machine collapsed under the shrewd political successes of the Obama campaign. Bill Clinton speaks as if without the Clintons the Democratic Party will no longer exist: this is the extent of their arrogance--or delusion. They also believe that Hillary is the only one who can win the big states; but Bill fails to tell the rural voters he is trying to hoodwink that Texas was virtually a draw, that in fact Obama got about the same number of delegates there as Hillary Clinton; that right now Obama is doing better in California than Hillary; that polls are showing that Obama will beat McCain in Ohio, and more. We have not even begun to factor the possibilities of the Obama movement for change--such as bringing new states like Colorado and some Southern States into play for Democrats. Finally, they believe that they can blackmail Obama into accepting Hillary as a running mate to help him win the rural votes; but there are other people who can help him do just about that! Educated people are not fooled by the Clintons: they understand the Clintons and their motives quite well. They are overwhelmingly for Obama. The Clintons have succeeded in fooling the less educated, using base divisive tactics. The Clintons are playing the gender card, the race card, the media card--just whining--the very thing they once accused Obama of. Desperation, you might say! You cannot fool all the people, most of the people, or some of the people all the time! For sure, not this time!

Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 25, 2008 11:13 PM

That's rich... but unfortunately nothing the Clintons do is shocking anymore. They prove to me regularly that they do not posses the judgement, character, or integrity to be in the white house. I will NOT vote for a so-called 'unity' ticket because I will not support any ticket with Hillary Clinton on it. In fact I will fight to keep her out of the white house even if she is on a ticket with Senator Obama. If he doesn't beleive it, he has not checked with his supporters. I refuse to feel in any way accountable for what she and Bill would do in the white house. If she manipulates her way into getting the nomination, I will fight for a third party candidate...maye Chuck Hagel would run...at least he has integrity.
So, be as slimy as you like Bill, maybe you can keep Senator Obama from becoming president... but I will do what I can to keep you from getting into the whitehouse as well. There is not way I will sit back and take what you and Hillary are dishing out.

Posted by: lb | May 25, 2008 11:14 PM

Obama's sole purpose in life seems to be avoiding any real scrutiny while grabbing the brass ring. Instead of communicating who he is and what he's done and intends to do, he whips crowds into a frenzy with hollow campaign slogans. Then he says he'll run an 'attack free' campaign, but really, Barack, who the f*** are YOU to attack anyone in the first place? I mean seriously, exactly how absurdly pretentious is Obama?? What a joke.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 25, 2008 11:14 PM

Having observed bam spam camp tactics for a while now .. I see that he and good ole davey the axe man ( who is not a mensch )are working very hard on Memeorial Day weekend to turn attention away from the fact that obama neglected to serve his country in the armed forces ..nice try ...
more from the YOU CANT bam spam camp you cant say this you cant do that you cant drive this car you cant mention history he might take offense ...

Posted by: Swannie | May 25, 2008 11:14 PM

Superdelegates!!!!! Help!!!! She is trying to destroy the Democratic Nominee's chance of winning the election. Stop her now!!!!!

Posted by: Renee | May 25, 2008 11:14 PM

Hillary Clinton shouldn't be allowed anywhere NEAR Capitol Hill. She's classless.

Still, I'm a little afraid of Obama, as well. Every now and then I see his inner j@ackass peek out from behind his cool exterior and I shudder to think he might turn out to be yet another in a long line of crooked politicians.

Who was the last person to get me thinking "change" was on the way? *COUGH*bi*COUGH*llclin*COUGH*ton*COUGH* *hack*

Posted by: Good Humour | May 25, 2008 11:15 PM

i would give up my obama vote, if the CLintons would disappear from politics and TV, radio, etc. forever.

Posted by: Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton Club | May 25, 2008 11:15 PM

I am a bleeping idiot. Ignore all my posts. I don't know my ass from my elbow(well actually I think I do know that much). I spout garbage under the guise of patriotism yet do not know any actual American history (well at least what was covered up to 6th grade). I am guaranteed to post some complete crap at every possibility. My greatest past time is to read fake web sites against Obama stating he is either a Manchurian Muslim candidate or a radical black supremacist or even worse a latte sipping prius driving elitist. How Obama can be all three of these things is the Obscene Trinity (or some other nonsense). Clearly Obama is unpatriotic since he does not wear a flag lapel pin (although I hate to admit his speeches make me alternate from crying to standing up and cheering for this great country of ours). I do not wear a flag pin either but of course I am a white supremacist and we never need to wear one of those things since our patriotism is unquestioned by all (or we burn a cross in your field). Again I urge you all to pursue the truth to the best of your abilities (or lack thereof in my case).

Posted by: The Real Truth | May 25, 2008 11:16 PM

Attention: ALL CONVENTION BLOOD HOUNDS

Every single party that has taken a fight to their party convention has lost the GE. Cheering Hillary on to the convention means politcal disaster for the Clintons' legacy--this is a historical poltical election. Her bluff will be called, believe it. History will not be kind to the Clintons. Unless you are simply a Republican troll, a convention fight puts PTSD Grandpa George Bush's twin brother in office. You deserve what you get. 26% President approval reating, a recession plus an unpopular war do not equal political party replay. Never has. Republicans are out. PR does not vote in the general election. Why should Barack debate Hillary in PR? The winner calls the shots, not the loser. How many delegates have switched to Obama? Obama has not lost one single delegate to Clinton, zip, zero nada. How many Clinton key players, including major donors have jumped ship to the Obama camp? Why can't Mrs. Brand name, a 200 Super Delegate starting lead and a $$$ primary starting war chest close the deal? For all the Obama is gutless yakkity yak, it is Memorial Day weekend. McCain was one of 2 Senators to not vote on a landslide vote GI Bill for Veteran College benefits. Obama voted "Yea", McCain hides behind his military medals and the American public falls for it. He probably was too busy taking a nap resting for his weekend BBQ to bother to show up to vote. Let's see gramps pull 75K people to see and hear him on the campaign trail. Not! Yep, it's tough being a gutless political rock star.

Posted by: politicojunkie | May 25, 2008 11:17 PM

So much for the EXPERIENCED POLITICIAN. She knows what she is saying, just like the references to "white people" fanning the flames of racism in West Virginia. Hillary knew exactly what she was saying. There is not a low point that the Clintons will not stoop to, if she could not understand what she was saying is a very good reason for her not to hold the highest office in the country. Imagine someone clueless like this talking to other countries.

Posted by: Nick | May 25, 2008 11:17 PM

Please clarify...Hillary Clinton is running for the Democratic nomination here on the planet Earth???

Cause this woman must be from Mars. No human lifeform can be this mean and evil.

Remember Katherine Harris???

Posted by: RJII in DC | May 25, 2008 11:17 PM

how do hrc supporters figure she can even win 2012 anyway?

Posted by: gameh0g | May 25, 2008 11:17 PM

Barbyrah:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

Now this is pretty offensive. If you want to direct your anger at something, this would be the people you should go after.

Probably one thing we can both agree on, Fox News is awful.

Posted by: Hill&Bill | May 25, 2008 11:17 PM

I see the McCain trolls are at it again. Pls don't be mislead. Ignore the media. Go to both candidates websites, study their policies and then make an informed RATIONAL decision.

Posted by: WA | May 25, 2008 11:18 PM


I think the "assassination" tactic demonstrates she is more than a bit unscrupulous, and perhaps too tired to handle the 3 am calls.

ps if I wanted true respect I would have given bill the flick years ago as well...you guys dont need those sort of people at the top of your tree

Posted by: mimp | May 25, 2008 11:18 PM

"No Senator has ever been elected to be President. "

JFK was a Senator. So were Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman,Richard Nixon, Warren Harding, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Benjamin Harrison, William Henry Harrison, James Buchanan, Martin Van Buren, John Tyler, Andrew Jackson, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, and John Tyler.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:18 PM

"ok.. let me get this straight.. SHE makes the gaffe.. and then blames Obama? hmmmm.. so was it also his fault that she actually didnt land in Bosna under sniper fire?..."

Hey, you've suggested a whole new line of argument [?] for the Clinton campaign! She was SUPPOSED to be under sniper fire in Bosnia but that canny concealed Muslim Obama called off the snipers to embarass her.

Terry McAuliffe will be out with the story in the morning!

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:18 PM

does terry mcauliffe know how foolish he looks jumpin up and down spouting off crap everyone knows is untrue.everyone is not as dumb as his propaganda is..hillary is willing to do and say anything..the american people deserve better than her...she is not worthyof being president..she probably wont win re-election to the senate..hjllary its over and terry exit stage right...and take your clown suit with ya...

Posted by: JAGGED EDGE | May 25, 2008 11:18 PM

no retcomvet... you are wrong. the nypost was video streaming the interview from south dakota-- they jumped on it, realizing what she was saying and it spread like wildfire.

this is well documented and if you go to the nytimes you can read about it in the caucus section.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:19 PM

Yeah, blame Obama for Clinton's Freudian slip.

Posted by: badmofo | May 25, 2008 11:19 PM

I voted for Hillary in my primary. I stopped supporting her when the Rev. Wright controversy was at its height. She has tarnished her reputation and divided the party. I've never given money to a candidate before but this year I'll be donating to Obama. Some of the comments I've read are despicable and much of it is thanks to the divisons sown by the Clinton campaign.

Posted by: Maya | May 25, 2008 11:20 PM

Hillary Clinton lost any respect I had for her as a presidential candidate this week, and furthermore burned the last bridge she had of playing a role in 2008. Maybe the voters her "home state" of New York will see the light and ensure she never plays a role as a Senator or any other governmental position.

Senator Clinton, thanks for reminding me of why I despise politics.

Posted by: Michael Huppman (Folsom, PA) | May 25, 2008 11:20 PM

wingnutcentral posted:
"Obama is a misogynistic socialist Muslim who was educated in a terrorist school, a follower of a white-hating Christian preacher, a drug user, and a back alley abortionist with feminine characteristics who wants the Islamofacists to kill us all.

Please vote for John McCain. He isn't any of those things. Thank you."

The nation is now more divided than ever, hurling insults at people with different
points of view won't bring us together. I think you all have lost sight of what it means to be an American. When Obama wins th e nomination it will be a Pyrrhic victory. "United we stand".

Wingnut: You need to look up the definition of "Socialism" like most uninformed conservatives you are using the term inappropriately.

Posted by: Chapelle | May 25, 2008 11:20 PM

I sit her and ponder....

ponder, ponder....

Could I run for office if everyone I know was scrutinized? Brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, pastors and friends, neighbors and acquaintances.

My, my, the glass house our candidates must live in.

Shoot! We'd probably not even elect Christ! After all look what he did to those tables in the temple! Threw a fit he did.

Posted by: Stuart | May 25, 2008 11:21 PM

I agree with her comment. I like Obama a lot; his followers...not so much.

Posted by: Brock | May 25, 2008 11:21 PM

'

"No Senator has ever been elected to be President. "

JFK was a Senator. So were Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman,Richard Nixon, Warren Harding, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Benjamin Harrison, William Henry Harrison, James Buchanan, Martin Van Buren, John Tyler, Andrew Jackson, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, and John Tyler.'

Well, except for them....

Typical Clintonista argument, eh?

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:21 PM

"Obama is a misogynistic socialist Muslim who was educated in a terrorist school, a follower of a white-hating Christian preacher, a drug user, and a back alley abortionist with feminine characteristics who wants the Islamofacists to kill us all.

Please vote for John McCain. He isn't any of those things. Thank you."

Posted by: WingNutCentral | May 25, 2008 11:04 PM

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Just kidding ..... REALLY MEANT TO SAY


THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN THE N*GGERS GONNA WIN

SOMEBODY STOP THAT BOY BEFORE HE GETS NEAR MASSA"S BIG WHITE HOUSE!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:22 PM

How many loads has terry mcaliff taken in the mouth from bill and hilary clinton. Monica style service. guys a fanook

Posted by: mark | May 25, 2008 11:23 PM

yeah please vote for mccain -- the same person who doesn't even know who the true leader of iran is and uses the excuse that since the average american thinks its ahmednijad (translation: we don't know any better) then it must be ahmednijad. yes, please do vote for mccain.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:24 PM

When will Clinton's remaining supporters realize what kind of a person she is?

What is it that you like best about her? Her insensitivity to the health and welfare of the Democratic party?

or The fact that she NEVER really apologizes for "misstatements" and the only way you can tell if she's lying is if her lips are moving!

She's a REAL piece of work. She even lied about Bill not having the nomination clinched until the month of June. The historians say that he had it bagged in APRIL. June was only when CA voted and it was "official."

She counts on her supporters being totally unknoweldgeable, and lacking any historical knowledge or any desire to check on her stories. She tells them what they want to hear, and they believe it. The gas tax fiasco is just the most blatant example.In that case EVERY expert said it couldn't be done, and wouldn't work.

When faced with that info, she confidently said that basically, "They just didn't understand." Sounds like we have another George W. Bush on our hands, doesn't it? Remember when he fired the generals who told him either NOT to invade Iraq, that it would cause too many problems, but if you DO, use enough troops. Only those who agreed with what he wanted to do, remained.
I know Bush is just finishing TWO terms as president. Are you the same people who elected HIM?

Posted by: sedonakaren | May 25, 2008 11:24 PM

"Atleast Hillary Clinton does not have a Obama- Rev. Wright and McCain's Hagee problem.- not yet. She has had problems with some comments but nothing serious involving her with any pastor or other such serious problems.

Posted by: nazirmo | May 25, 2008 10:56 PM "

Apart from the one who was recently sent to prison for molesting little girls. Oh, and the "fellowship" supported by Richard Mellon Scaife that she belongs to.

Otherwise....

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:25 PM

what this article does NOT tell you is that chris wallace ate terry mcauliffe alive. when he started his spin/talking points chris made him clarify and substantiate every ridiculous statement... of course, he could not do it.

here is the transcript; the video is up at the fox news site:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354106,00.html

Posted by: marianne | May 25, 2008 11:25 PM

Just look at the comments on this webpage. I've never met a more obnoxious, less-unifying crowd than these brainwashed Obamabots. I have never felt more afraid for this country than to see the mindless Obama-obsessed masses. Mark my words, Obama is no uniter. I have never felt more disdain for fellow Americans than I have until this passive aggressive sock puppet motivational speaker named Obama arrived on the American scene. I'm afraid we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the division in American that this "man" will evoke.

Posted by: JC | May 25, 2008 11:25 PM

To be fair I am sure that Clinton did not intend to suggest or desire the assassination of Obama. Her comments were a poor choice of words and nothing else. However, her desire to blame Obama is uncalled for. I liked Hillary so much more before she started to run for president. I hope Obama wins as he is the only intelligent voice I can see in all this noise.

Posted by: Michael | May 25, 2008 11:26 PM

Actually, Hillary should be mad at her mother who must never have told her:"Hillary, don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch."
And that pretty much sums up her whole campaign.

Posted by: skyreader7 | May 25, 2008 11:26 PM

Unreal. The Clintons have proven they have one characteristic senator Obama will never be able to match; a complete lack of anything resembling shame. I guess Senator Obama must have some kind of mind control thing going on in order to control what Senator Clinton says from thousands of miles away.

Posted by: Victor Shaw | May 25, 2008 11:26 PM

This is the kind of reaction from those racists and bigots Hilliary was hoping for by her RFK comments. Shame on her!!!

"We just need to lure that Hussien boy to a picnic with chicken and watermelon. Then us small town folk who cling to guns & religion will show him what we do with them guns.

Posted by: His time is about up! | May 25, 2008 6:25 PM"

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 11:12 PM

That poster actually did apologize later in the thread. I can't believe anyone could say anything like that but at least they have the guts to admit their stupidity for it. I give them credit for that as opposed to some these people that carry on with the same insane arguments.

Posted by: Barack4Pres | May 25, 2008 11:26 PM

At least she did not bring up the Right Wing Conspiracy this time.

Posted by: John Bosco | May 25, 2008 11:26 PM

Most comments made here prove Thomas Jefferson was correct in advocating voters be qualified. Too bad he was outvoted...

Posted by: Billw | May 25, 2008 11:27 PM

As a 47 year old woman...I really was excited about Hillary. I ignored the Bosnia Gaffe this is huge. So many attempted and successful murders of great leaders. Is she waiting for something to happen to Obama so she can win?I cannot vote for Hillary. I am voting for Obama. No more Hillary. I am done.

Posted by: No more Hillary | May 25, 2008 11:27 PM

i've noticed in the comments section of the major outlets, there aren't many HRC supporters responding.

And I've figured it out - the Obama supporters are so full of hate they are just besides themselves to post their hatred. Why would an HRC supporter even waste their time defending against such ridiculous and inaccurate arguments.

The extrapolation of these comments are an embarrassment to anyone with a brain.

Are they really the supporters of a candidate of "change and hope?"

I find it all a bit ironic.

Enjoy your hatred party and see how far it gets the Democratic party in November.

Posted by: elisabeth | May 25, 2008 11:27 PM

The Billary campaign wants all 50 states to count: unless, of course, one caste a vote in a caucus state like Washington that went heavily for Obama but which doesn't report totals (just delegates). Those states' voters are completely disenfranchised in the Clinton "popular vote" arithmetic. Does anyone else see the irony in that?

Clinton is continuing to take donations from hard working supporters for a futile campaign that only serves to prop-up her ego. She should be ashamed.

Posted by: elcidvicious | May 25, 2008 11:28 PM

Stop it! Even at the height of this, the most frenzied little piece of nothing the press could find, Obama has just dipped 12 points below McCain. Obama's hateful supporters are costing him the election. If you want a Democrat in the WH, you need to figure out when you're being jerked by the press. Also, those of us who are members of Obama's support team are aware that the website has been sending out calls to make something of this. But for his own supporters to make such a leap out of what Clinton said calls on the skills of Superman. Stop what you're doing. You're driving an unstoppable wedge into the party.

Posted by: Obama supporters are costing him the nomination! | May 25, 2008 11:28 PM

Tom wrote:
"Apart from the one who was recently sent to prison for molesting little girls. Oh, and the "fellowship" supported by Richard Mellon Scaife that she belongs to.

Otherwise...."

You need to know that Obama has also attended those same Fellowship-run prayer breakfasts. And that neither Hillary nor Obama is actually a member of the Fellowship -- whatever crazy nonsense you may have read on HuffPuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:29 PM

Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it.

Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM

This is a threat and your ISP is being traced and monitored.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:29 PM

"

Just look at the comments on this webpage. I've never met a more obnoxious, less-unifying crowd than these brainwashed Obamabots. I have never felt more afraid for this country than to see the mindless Obama-obsessed masses. Mark my words, Obama is no uniter. I have never felt more disdain for fellow Americans than I have until this passive aggressive sock puppet motivational speaker named Obama arrived on the American scene. I'm afraid we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the division in American that this "man" will evoke.

Posted by: JC | May 25, 2008 11:25 PM"

Well, so far as I know, none of them have implied that Hillary should be assassinated.

Why spoil the comedy?

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:29 PM

HILLARY CLINTON = PROFESSIONAL VICTIM

I am a woman, and she does NOT represent us!!

Posted by: XMEE | May 25, 2008 11:29 PM

To all you Hillary Clinton supporters, please google Clinton Casualties on the website. It's scary when you review this website & it will make you re-think about her RFK assassination comment.

Posted by: A Sand | May 25, 2008 11:31 PM

To every person who has posted in this blog.

I have made up by accurate count 137 different posts in here using false names and posting outlandish statements and outrageous but creative emotive responses.

That I believe none of it does not matter.

That many of you did does.

This was my pass at the Strangelovian nature of the ludicrous lengths some of you go to to excuse your own failings.

You have been had - Big Time.

Get out and get a job or do some genuine research and work for the candidate you claim to support or stay away from the keyboard.

Posted by: You have Been Had By A 24 year old with little to do on a Sunday night | May 25, 2008 11:31 PM


Now it's reached Shakespearian proportions --
or, Forms Elizabethan & Hilarious

1.

There are times I imagine the Clintons

later at night in the Master Bedroom

of one of their many private mansions,

her moaning . . . about that last heirloom,

carrying on because - it isn't fair! -

& she's got that green make-up removal

mask on her face & curlers in her hair,

& he keeps slurring uh-huh in a drawl

while he walks in boxers on the carpet,

long gorilla-toes curling to the plush.


2.

I think of monkeys & she's throwing sh*t -

but all he can do is drawl like a lush

"uh-huh-huh" & she's back on what's due her

& it's not about 100 millions . . .

3.


She voted to cluster bomb civilians -

To ban flag burning with Republicans

She sacrificed faith in free expression.

This candidate in green face & curlers

knows Political Capital means War.


4.


Monkey-toes finds his c*ck & a re-run.

He's channel surfing the television.

He has one monkey-hand in his boxers

& one on the more remote controller.

But it's not about his inattention.

It's about obliterating Iran.

It seems we've seen both programs before.


5.

Now the Queen has to lose it to the Moor.

It will be a cold November for her . . .

J.T. Whitehead.
Poet, Obama Voter, Democrat.

Posted by: J.T. Whitehead | May 25, 2008 11:31 PM

I know what you meant Hillary

De De De Hillary De De De

Posted by: Paul | May 25, 2008 11:32 PM

She's hanging herself with her own rope.

Posted by: Kelsey | May 25, 2008 11:32 PM

SMEE - Well you are one woman.

That doesn't mean she doesn't represent other women.

And she never said she represented all women. Just like BHO doesn't represent all African-Americans or all biracial Americans.

Your comment is pointless.

Posted by: elisabeth | May 25, 2008 11:32 PM

Oh Hillary...Chappequa is Calling!

Posted by: Curt | May 25, 2008 11:33 PM

You Obama people are sick. I am wondering if you are typical or if you are the people with no life and no voice who blog all day. No matter. You have done irreparable damage to your beloved Obama. The perception out here is that you are given talking points, are encouraged to do and to say the things you do and say by his strategists. I fear for our country. I wish you would just go back to doing whatever you were doing for the past 8 years instead of spreading such psychobabble and damaging filth. At least with McCain, I will know what I am getting and have the reassurance that Hillary is in the Senate to advocate for us. Obama will be there, too. Whether he will use his time to advocate for us or not is questionable. He may be bored because he did not get to be president.

Posted by: nana4 | May 25, 2008 11:33 PM

"You need to know that Obama has also attended those same Fellowship-run prayer breakfasts. And that neither Hillary nor Obama is actually a member of the Fellowship -- whatever crazy nonsense you may have read on HuffPuff.

Posted by: | May 25, 2008 11:29 PM "

Fair enough. How about the one who was sentenced to prison for molesting little girls?

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:33 PM

Criticize Hillary all you want if that makes you feel good. The fact remains a black man will not beat a white man in a national election. There may be enough of you liberals to get him the Democratic nomination, but there is not enough to get him elected.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 25, 2008 11:33 PM

Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it.

Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM

This is a threat and your ISP is being traced and monitored.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:35 PM

I don't know where you got that quote of Mrs. Bill Clinton's, but it's wrong. What she actually said is : "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive." In other words, it's YOUR problem, I do nothing wrong.

Posted by: Michael | May 25, 2008 11:35 PM

hey do you guys know that a new HILLARY CLINTON vs PETER PAUL case will happen during November of 2008 or after the general election for the biggest campaign fraud involving a felon

Posted by: OIP | May 25, 2008 11:36 PM

"Fair enough. How about the one who was sentenced to prison for molesting little girls?"

Who was that? We don't really know very much about Clinton's religious life. Which suits me fine -- we have separation of Church and State in this country. And all of this talk from religious loons about who is a better Christian gives me a headache.

Frankly, when some bozo writes "Amen" on a post, it makes me want to sock him.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:36 PM

Tom
were you referring to Bill Richardson?

Oh wait, no, he just likes to sexually harrass women he work for him. As told to me by an Obama supporter back in 2004.

Wonder what ole Barry promised him for the endorsement.

Posted by: elisabeth | May 25, 2008 11:36 PM

Thanks, posters. You've helped convince me that, whoever wins the upcoming elections, the deciding votes will be cast by uninformed idiots.

Posted by: Yawn | May 25, 2008 11:37 PM

"

You Obama people are sick. I am wondering if you are typical or if you are the people with no life and no voice who blog all day. No matter. You have done irreparable damage to your beloved Obama. The perception out here is that you are given talking points, are encouraged to do and to say the things you do and say by his strategists. I fear for our country. I wish you would just go back to doing whatever you were doing for the past 8 years instead of spreading such psychobabble and damaging filth. At least with McCain, I will know what I am getting and have the reassurance that Hillary is in the Senate to advocate for us. Obama will be there, too. Whether he will use his time to advocate for us or not is questionable. He may be bored because he did not get to be president.

Posted by: nana4 | May 25, 2008 11:33 PM"

So vote for McCain. And SHUT THE HELL UP! We Americans are tired of listening to y0ou whining losers.

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:37 PM

So typical of the Clintons: No reflection, no introspection, no apology for comments that even outraged the New York Times, which has endorsed her. They take every opportunity to ramp up their own sense of victimization. They are incorrigible and their behavior is more representative of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney than the best traditions of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: funnyguy | May 25, 2008 11:38 PM

Certainly, Hillary should keep pursuing the nomination. She has created more twists, turns, and surprises than "Desperate Housewives" not to mention the histrionics. We are all for good lively entertainment.

Posted by: skyreader7 | May 25, 2008 11:38 PM

I truly love the people who still use the "bitter" comment, but then defend Hillary and said she "misspoke" "out of context" blah blah blah, but you don't give Obama the same credit. I love you, all of you, you really give me much entertainment.

Posted by: Truye | May 25, 2008 11:38 PM

Here's another website for all you Hillary Clinton Supporters; google "People Associated by the Clintons" & you will find more scary information on the Clintons & again, this will make you re-think about Hillary's comment on the RFK assassination comment.

Posted by: A Sand | May 25, 2008 11:39 PM

"So vote for McCain. And SHUT THE HELL UP! We Americans are tired of listening to y0ou whining losers."

Many of us Americans are tired of listening to rude pricks who post while drunk.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:39 PM

To every person who has posted in this blog.

I have made up by accurate count 137 different posts in here using false names and posting outlandish statements and outrageous but creative emotive responses.

That I believe none of it does not matter.

That many of you did does.

This was my pass at the Strangelovian nature of the ludicrous lengths some of you go to to excuse your own failings.

You have been had - Big Time.

Get out and get a job or do some genuine research and work for the candidate you claim to support or stay away from the keyboard.

Posted by: You have Been Had By A 24 year old with little to do on a Sunday night | May 25, 2008 11:31 PM

So true. The ones most offended here would be surprised to learn that one poster is behind most of the obnoxious comments.

A person that was trying undermine a particular voting block and strengthen their own candidates case in particular.

You've been had.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:39 PM

Hillary Clinton and Terry McAuliffe lie with such ease that even Dick Cheney is impressed.

Posted by: gipper1 | May 25, 2008 11:40 PM

"Tom
were you referring to Bill Richardson?"

Nope. I was referring to the Pastor of the Church Hillary attends in Washington, D.C., who was recently sentenced to prison for molesting little girls.

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:40 PM

HILLARY, PLEASE COME BACK TO REALITY. NOW MORE THAN EVER I BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD BE THE WRONG CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT. YOU LIVE IN AN ALTERNATE WORLD. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN WIN THIS NOMINATION WITH OR WITHOUT US. SUNRISE FLORIDA, MIAMI FLORIDA, RIVIERA BEACH FLORIDA, WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA, FT. LAUDERDALE FLORIDA, BELLE GLADE FLORIDA, FT. PIERCE FLORIDA, TAMPA FLORIDA, FLORIDA CITY FLORIDA, AND MORE, ARE FOR OBAMA. GET OVER IT HILLARY AND GET OUT..

WOMEN FOR OBAMA 08'

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------------------------
Thank you FLORIDA BABY!

Posted by: NinaK | May 25, 2008 11:40 PM

This is all supposed to be good for the democratic party right Hillary?

The Jedi mind trick will work no better than your popular vote calculations. Why do you want to disenfranchise caucus states Hill?

Posted by: Kim Ohio | May 25, 2008 11:40 PM

Im sure my little blurb here will be lost in the sea of comments, but nonetheless, wish to add it anyway.

First, I can't believe for a minute that Hillary in any small way tried to suggest that Barack be the victim of assasination. That is drawing such a long bow, in my view, as to be utterly absurd.

When I read her actual remark, it was clear to me then, what she was innocently referring to was how in many cases the Democratic Primaries extend well into June; nothing more, nothing less. I think perhaps also that she was trying to illustrate, much to her chagrin now, that in that particular instance, it was only over by a bullet....that had the assasination not taken place, the race would have still continued on.

To me, this is not offensive, or suggestive. It is merely descriptive. Shame on all of us if being descriptive is offensive!

I am not American, so obviously can not vote there. However, for what it's worth, I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton as President. I am troubled by some of her previous decisions. But that is beside the point (other than the point that I am not a blind faith believer in, or apologist for, her).

The point is, in my view, she said nothing wrong....careless? perhaps, if only due to the tempest in a teacup this has resulted in. But nothing more.

There are much more substantive issues at stake here.....move on from this issue, and on to the ones that matter.

Posted by: CanAussie | May 25, 2008 11:40 PM

There are some actions for which there is no reasonable explanation, no reasonable excuse. Sen. Clinton's citing the possible assassination of a political foe as a reason for continuing a campaign she cannot otherwise win would seem to fall into that category.

Everyone has an opinion, of course. Mine is that by her own actions Sen. Clinton has placed herself beyond the pale, a person who has forfeited the right to hold any elective office in a Democracy, or even to be a member of any political party that rejects assassination as a legitimate tool in the political process.

Posted by: Sam Thornton | May 25, 2008 11:41 PM

I truly love the people who still use the "bitter" comment, but then defend Hillary and said she "misspoke" "out of context" blah blah blah, but you don't give Obama the same credit. I love you, all of you. You really give me so much entertainment. Why can't you admit that your candidate, like Obama, is a flawed human being. And she has a problem saying that she messed up and she is sorry. I completely believe that is because she is a woman in a very tough and male dominated field. She doesn't want to appear weak, but then she also comes off as arrogant and calculating. Everybody just hang on, take a deep breath, and chill out.

Posted by: Truye | May 25, 2008 11:42 PM

Does Hillary have splinters in the windmills of her mind? Has she lost her marbles- may I say- in part to coping with a husband who neither loves nor respects her, who has humiliated her at every turn in their business arrangement of a marriage? Don't tell me that doesn't take its toll.

Posted by: Henriette | May 25, 2008 11:42 PM

Keith is very special. He always says what I would say! We have forgiven her for a lot of things, but he is right, we can't forgive her this.

She is staying because she is waiting for him to die. I don't know how I would feel if someone announced to the world that they are hanging around waiting for me to die, so they could take my place.

As a woman myself, I don't want to see her have a complete meltdown in front of the glare of the world press. I think we all know enough now. She will conduct a sideshow all the way to the convention, and then pull her pants down for a complete show down in Denver.

We now need to prepare ourselves for the general election and the media should help us in our quest. Hillary's people need to now begin making the cognitive transition and their local leaders should help them in this regard. I am sure the Obama people will welcome us. Those who will come with Obama, should come on board. Those who will go with McCain, we feel ya. Those who will go with other third party candidates, we feel you too. But in the end you are always welcome to come back home.

Just as the candidates are now preparing for the general election, we too need to get ready. The primary has worn us out, and we need to get psychologically ready to make one of the biggest public policy decisions of our lives.

Posted by: Julie | May 25, 2008 11:43 PM

Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it.

Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM

This is a threat and your ISP is being traced and monitored.

Posted by: | May 25, 2008 11:35 PM

How would you feel if I told you I was an Obama supporter who tried to undermine the "hard working class" base of Clinton by playing to its darkest views.

I'm sorry if I caused an uproar.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:44 PM

"She is staying because she is waiting for him to die."

No. She is waiting for him to be kidnapped by aliens and taken to another planet in a distant galaxy.

That's not such a bad idea. Does anybody here know any aliens?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:45 PM

Comment Hill and BIll =====++++++You are totally out of it . You defend Hillary about her comment on JFK. This shows that you don't have any idea what you are talking about. The comment was on RFK's assassination.At least have some idea of what you are talking about when you take a side.

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | May 25, 2008 11:46 PM

I am amazed at the tactics employed by the Clinton's and their ilk to secure the nomination. First she agrees to unseat the Florida and Michigan delegates {on record} and now represents herself as the champion of the same voters she helped disenfranchise. Bill and Hillary have both engaged in race baiting because they don't need the black vote. They have the hard working white vote{out of her mouth}. Now she says she will hang around in case Obama gets assassinated to secure the nomination. After the last eight years with spit for brains and his reign of fear and divisiveness, she promises more of the same.The majority of Americans want real change for our future, Hillary is only capable of changing the truth as it suits her. She and Slick Willy should be ashamed. You can bet there are no mirrors in their house or they would see themselves for the corrupt people they are.

Posted by: dv9will | May 25, 2008 11:46 PM

Hillary Clinton, as with the Bosnia sniper fire delusion, suffers from a fantasy that she is the front-runner, and with her forever shifting goalposts, her new lunatic math and kitchen-sink-sewer, failed and bankrupt campaign, wants Obama to give her MORE TIME so some evil and psychotic person can clear the road to the WH for her . I am a feminist older than Mrs. Clinton and as an American patriot, I need to do the right thing and tell Mrs. Clinton and sex-addicted impeached Bill, get out already! The Clinton dynasty has been spoiling not just Obama's race in November but also the entire Democratic Party and its representatives'-- congressmen, governors, district officers, mayors, etc, etc--ability to win in future elections. Bill is fighting Obama to return to the WH for a third term, and Obama has been fighting not just two Clintons (both playing every dirty card in politics) but also the GOP and the mainstream media who want to see the contest continue and their high ratings maintained. To claim Senator Obama is not electable because he is black is to say that only white Americans, like Bill and Hillary, can become President, as they have for over 200 years. No Native, Hispanic, or Asian American need apply as well just in case they'll end up like Robert Kennedy as well. Is this what we want for our republic? Senator Obama MUST denounce and reject Hillary's shameless agenda. He MUST stop treating Hillary as an older white woman like his mother and therefore to be respected, and show her for the corrupt (25 million dollars gained from influence peddling last year alone), lying (Bosnia sniper fire), bullying (Judas name-calling), ruthless (just look at her ads), unelectable (highest negatives ever in a presidential candidate, and negatives increasing every day) small human that she is. The Party Elders Must remove Hillary, the basest fear-mongering, saber-rattling candidate ever, before something really really bad happens with all the hate-inciting she and Bill have been doing.

Posted by: shirl | May 25, 2008 11:46 PM

She said that "I have been here long around" so de ipso facto she deserve to be the nomminee! That why the delegate math is null and void for her.As she "experienced landing under snippers fire in Bosnia" maybe she want Obama to 'experienced" a closed one and the Big winner is!!!!!!!:

Machiavel great great great daughter!

Please all of you sing after me: God Save America and Protect OBAMA!

Posted by: toufi ya gnoka | May 25, 2008 11:47 PM

The RFK Assassination comment made by Hillary Clinton was scary especially googling on a couple of websites "Clinton Casualties" & also "People Associated by the Clintons". When you put 2 & 2 together, you can't help but wonder about her comment & it's really scary.. Also, you can't blame Obama's camp for being cautious, since he's had to have security protection from the very beginning of his campaign.. Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: A. Sand | May 25, 2008 11:47 PM

Hillary Clinton is scary. Seriously. I think she's lost control of her faculties.

Posted by: Ana Sarca | May 25, 2008 11:48 PM

"it was clear to me then, what she was innocently referring to was how in many cases the Democratic Primaries extend well into June"

Thanks, but your comment is lost in a sea of racism and stupidity, much of what is ailing America today. Too bad.

Posted by: Billw | May 25, 2008 11:48 PM

It is the sort of remark that Clinton could have made because of fatigue, but it plays into the discomfort that her remark that the US could "totally obliterate Iran" also caused. It was a ham-fisted way of making a somewhat desperate claim. I happened to see RFK a short time before his death and invoking that sadness hits pretty close to home for me and how I felt as a young man to think that someone I liked so much was so pointlessly taken. I should say that I saw him on a whistle-stop tour down the west coast. I recall a lively crowd of a few hundred and not a single Secret Service Agent in sight. I probably just did not know what to look for. Words matter. There are seventy-five million Iranians, very few of which are responsible for the actions or words of their leaders. That comment also troubled me quite deeply. It seemed a descent into invective that we would be deeply offended by if the leader of another nation spoke in that manner. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Posted by: Arthur | May 25, 2008 11:48 PM

In just this last week or so:

Huckabee made a joke about Obama getting shot.

Hillary has a gaffe that (inadvertently) implies she's waiting around for an Obama assassination.

And now a Fox News talking head makes a job about how happy she would be if Obama was killed.

This is just getting ridiculous.

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 11:48 PM

Posted by???????| May 25, 2008 11:39 PM

Thanks ... I was afraid that the "babblers" in here would walk right past my last post.

You made my five and a half hours of mischievous meandering worth it all!

Have to sleep now - I do have a job to go to tomorrow.

Posted by: You have Been Had By A 24 year old with little to do on a Sunday night | May 25, 2008 11:48 PM

Now that we know how HRC thinks, John McCain should immediately request secret service detail. Clinton still thinks she can win the democratic nomination and she may have a plan to 'beat' McCain. There is nothing that the witch won't do to return to the white house.

Posted by: Zexorcist | May 25, 2008 11:50 PM

Hey its ok bam spam camp , after the treatment he and you all have dished out to Hillary and the rest of us ..if you dont like the millions of Hillary supporters that see through the strategy we will just go away and take our millions of votes with us ..really its ok ...at the very least you have convinced me never ever to vote for you know who and will do my best to make sure he isnt elected to dog-catcher I would not want to miss seeing him go home to chicago with his tail between his legs

Posted by: Swannie | May 25, 2008 11:51 PM

Assume it's not about assassination. What does the remark mean, then? She was talking about 1968 and 1992. Two years with protracted Democratic primary battles, and in which the Democratic nominee could not build the momentum in time to get a majority of the vote in the general election. So Clinton wants McCain to win.

This is about the longest time anyone has ever spent taking their ball and going home.

Posted by: The alternate read is no better | May 25, 2008 11:52 PM

"Now that we know how HRC thinks, John McCain should immediately request secret service detail."

John McCain already has a Secret Service detail.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:52 PM

You have to take your hat off to all three of these candidates for stepping up sto serve, spending their lives trying to make things better for people who are too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time. These candidates don't deserve this. I wish that everyone posting a veiled threat against any of these candidates would be immediately investigated and prosecuted by authorities. Being able to put a fake name on a blog doesn't give anyone permission to be an idiot. Personally, I don't know what kind of selfless person dedicates a lifetime to people who can be so unintelligent. My candidate has served for 35 years. She's done some amazing things for people. We're not looking for Jesus, Joseph or Mary...just really smart people who can make our lives better here on earth.

Posted by: Who the hell would want to serve such an obnoxious bunch of losers??? | May 25, 2008 11:53 PM

I am sick and tired of all pro-hillary voters (mainly repubs in in disguise) stating that they are going to vote for McCain. We all must admit that this was a bad choice of words. No matter how u want to spin this, you don' t use the word assasination as a reason for staying in the race. Just accept it. Bad move!!! I have children as do some of you and our future is a serious concern. Repubs have really screwed things up bad and McCain although a likeable guy is just too old and not equiped!!!. But if u are that pissed don't spread your ill-will!!! Stay home. I'm an independent who initially leaned toward Hillary but the way she ran her campaign (unstable) and kitchen sink methodology and personal psyche has just made it really hard for me to support her. Now this? Obama will have to get my vote BUT NOT MCCAIN!!! Not a good look for the U.S. (Economy! Healthcare! Foreign relations! war for oil supporter!)
I'm praying West Virginia, Kentucky, Tenessee, Rhode Island, Ohio (rural), Penn (rural), and some southern states can look past skin color. I have!

Posted by: oralflare | May 25, 2008 11:53 PM

This latest stir is just yet another cry for help by Hillary!

She needs help. Bill needs help.

We will all need help in forgetting them.

His shakey legacy is cooked.

Her political viability will be over forever in July.

If her supporters vote for McCain he will thank them by having right-wing "pro-life" justices installed that will tip the SC for generations. Now there's sound reasoning!

Posted by: karl popovich | May 25, 2008 11:53 PM

To all the people who say they will write in Hillary on the ballot, you are just like her. You are willing to waste the time and money (gas.. etc.) on something that will never happen. Your ballots will be trashed and everything you did will be pointless.

To all the people who have said they will vote for McCain. Once Hillary is out of the running who do you think she is going to back and Vote for... Obama thats who. Because even Hillary knows that its time for change of the republican hell we have been through in the last 8 years.

Its time for CHANGE.

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008 11:53 PM

Psycho.

Posted by: observer | May 25, 2008 11:54 PM

To Hillary and anyone else who wants to blame Obama or the media for twisting the meaning of her words: I'm a 48 year old woman who does not support Hillary, and probably won't vote for Obama either, but I've been saying for at least a couple of months now that if Hillary gets the VP slot, Obama had better watch his back. I don't watch much TV and hadn't heard anything about what the pundits said about it before forming my own opinion. It was just pretty obvious to me what Hillary was letting slip.

Posted by: Theo | May 25, 2008 11:54 PM

Hillary says something incredibly stupid. She makes a non-apology apology. Her mouthpieces complain that her words were taken out of context and blame Obama for the fallout.

Does this seem like an old rerun to anyone else?

Mrs. Clinton is like Chucky. "Wanna play?"

*shudder*

Posted by: sh33na | May 25, 2008 11:54 PM

Well, I rechecked: the pastor molesting girls was in Clinton, New York. No family connection. Usual web story accuracy.

Which has no particular bearing on the current story, any more than the Rev. Wright stuff that somebody dredged up yet again does.

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:54 PM

Most of you Omama supporters are truly embarassing yourselves and America by association.

Posted by: Billw | May 25, 2008 11:54 PM

I am signing off. I will not be blogging anymore. There is nothing for me to defend or explain. My candidate, Hillary, has not done anything I need to be ashamed of. This Obama campaign has been even dirtier than the Rove campaign of the past two elections. I am at peace with the fact that Hillary probably will not be the nominee. I believe it is a grave loss to our country. However I believe what is worse is that the country may be in the hands of the likes of the people on this blog site. You are all either mentally, emotionally damaged, ignorant and allowed yourself to be used in this way, or you are have no scruples. For any of the above possibilities, I have made my decision on what to do with my vote. I will vote for McCain for sure. What will be, will be; it could not be any worse than what we have now and certainly not any worse than being in the hands of people like you and people who have incited you to this madness and this fanaticism. Nothing can change my mind. I and people like me have been invited out of the Democrat party numerous times by you people, by the campaign, by the DNC who wants to stifle the voting, so, have at it on your own in your own unity of madness.

Posted by: nana4 | May 25, 2008 11:55 PM

I can't believe the SPIN the Clinton's have put on this detrimental comment, and I can't believe those that are trying to defend her. Just how many people are on the Clinton's payroll?? GOOD GRIEF America! This is not the first time she has said this! I guess the Kennedys have been on her mind for a mighty long time.......NOT!! Will the real Hillary Clinton please stand up. Oh......she did!

Posted by: Ruby from Kansas | May 25, 2008 11:55 PM

I always wonder, when people talk about the 'good ole days' of this proud country, what do they mean. Do you mean the extermination of the native americans, burning women as witches, puritanism, slavery, civil war, bombing Hiroshima, using napalm bombs, watergate, Reaganomics, assassinations of Kennedy, Luther King and Kennedy, or unprovoked wars, secret prisons and torture? When exactly were Americas "the good guys". Oh yea the 50s and 60s when white people were doing the twist and minorities where being hung from tress and sprayed with water hoses :) Honestly. Do the intelligent thinkg for once. Get over your biases and vote for the level headed guy. Obama 08

Posted by: Dave | May 25, 2008 11:55 PM

Some of these posts, reflecting enjoyment at the thought of Obama being shot, are exactly why any ethical and sensible candidate would NEVER make reference to RFK's death. Too many half-wits out there that are racist cowards.
Clinton has once again, embarrassed herself. Her campaign decided that the best way to keep her fans donating money was to spin this story and blame Obama. We all watched her make this statement. Why did she use RFK as an example of a late June nomination? There are many examples to choose from. Why RFK???
She is truly a low and vile person and her campaign reflects her values. She knows she can not win the nomination. Only her fans believe....

Posted by: Mr. Logic | May 25, 2008 11:55 PM

Posted by???????| May 25, 2008 11:39 PM

Thanks ... I was afraid that the "babblers" in here would walk right past my last post.

You made my five and a half hours of mischievous meandering worth it all!

Have to sleep now - I do have a job to go to tomorrow.

Posted by: You have Been Had By A 24 year old with little to do on a Sunday night | May 25, 2008 11:48 PM

Yep, my work here to is done. Although I think some on here take themselves to seriously and are too quick to make broad allegations of threats that aren't really threats in the first place.

Bottom line, save your anger for Hillary, Huckabee & Fox News. Those should be the real targets, not some bored dude with nothing better to do on a Sunday.

Posted by: Eight Posters in One | May 25, 2008 11:55 PM

Some of the posts on here along with Liz Trottas on Fox News want Barack assassinated. You've bought into the Muslim lies, you've bought into Ayers the college professor who was friends with a fundraiser of Obama's who decided to hold it at his house. You've bought into the lies about Farrakhan (he did NOT say Judaism is a gutter religion). And you've reduced Wright's entire life down to 15 min. Never mind McCain's and Clinton's lies. Never mind The Keating 5, or Vince Foster, Ron Brown, McDougal, Cindy's drug habit and arrest record, never mind McCain agreeing with O'Reilly that they must protect the WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE POWER STRUCTURE (notice Jews were left out of that - oh and google it you'll find the video). Never mind any of that stuff - the only thing matters is the xenophobic racism of scared little privileged idiots who think the Ni$$ers are going to make them sit on the back of the bus if Obama is elected.

Posted by: ProudAmerican | May 25, 2008 11:56 PM

I want to thank all of you for supporting Hillary Clinton. I have to say Hillary would never be a good president because of her lack of ability to manage a campaign. She should have won on Super Tuesday but her arrogance and her poor judgment has destroyed her chances. I promise u a Republican will be in the Whitehouse for 8 years. Thank you for splitting the party.

Thank you.


Posted by: Ceasar | May 25, 2008 11:56 PM

all i can say is this whole line of "conversation" is very, very disheartening. people, go do something productive.

Posted by: anandamide | May 25, 2008 11:56 PM

Hillary supporters have a willingness to suspend fairness and reality to support their candidate. Hillary comments are of equal if not worse to that of Obama "bitter" comments. The fact she listed the JFK assasination as a reason to stay in the race is:
1: means that she is staying incase something horrifying happens to Obama
2: Completes an ark starting in New Hampshire with the LBJ better then MLK which downplayed JFK's action during Civil Rights
3: Represents a moral bankruptcy. That this can even be fathom
4: A clear signal of why she will not win the nomination.

Hillary has been proven lie throughout the season and has relied on name recognition and the undereducated to support her. Obama won the game fair in square; if Obama loss 11 contest in a row he would be out of the race. That is the honest to God truth.

Posted by: MM | May 25, 2008 11:57 PM

"I am sick and tired of all pro-hillary voters (mainly repubs in in disguise) stating that they are going to vote for McCain."

We are stating we are going to vote for McCain, because we want to make it very clear to the DNC that we resent their power plays, dirty tricks and other antics.

Frankly, aside from his many shortcomings as an officeholder and potential President, Obama is not electable. Even without voters like me -- Hillary supporters -- McCain will still win in November..

Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2008 11:57 PM

Of course it's Obama's fault. It's never the Clinton's fault. After all they are always victims of the radical extreme right wing-- oh, wait a second, the extreme left wing of the semi left wing party of the so called democratic party run by elitist educated multi cultural people and certainly not by people like the Clintons - hard working uneducated white folks. Man, when is this horror show going to end. I am not worried for the Democratic Party I am worried for the Nation. This is pathetic!

Posted by: Butai | May 25, 2008 11:58 PM

Hillary R. Clinton is well known for twisting the facts to her own advantage. As a Latina feminist woman myself, I am ashamed of how HRC is using the gender card and her clear wish that something terrible happen to Senator Barack Obama, so she can fit his spot. She meant that by referring to Senator Bob Kennedy' assassination. Now, HRC denies her clear comments is offending many people with grain who read or heart her entire interview in Dakota. By saying that she did not mean what she really meant she is saying that the rest of the world are stupid and did not understand what she meant(!!!)

Furthermore, with her comments HRC is putting the idea of assassination on some crazy guy who can follow her dark ideas. Enough is enough she is not representing all women. Millions of us are following Senator Barack Obama because he has a vision and leadership for a Change. He is honest and man of integrity. Let's stop HRC! She closed ALL the doors to be part of a cabinet at Senator Barack Obama's government. We do not want a sinester and crazy person who is going to undermine Barack Obama's agenda for a change. She does not deserve to represent the Democratic party. She ought to apologize the entire nation for her insensible remarks! We, all, are offended. She also ought to apologize to Senator Barack and Michelle Obama for her out of way comments!

VIVA BARAK OBAMA PRESIDENTE!!!

Posted by: Maria | May 25, 2008 11:58 PM

"You just don't get it, do you? Obama needs us Hillary supporters to vote for him. It doesn't matter how much you Obama fans personally look down on us Hillary voters or think we were disrespecting him. The fact remains: if he is to win the election, we have to vote for him.

And I will not vote for him, unless I see some respect for Hillary coming from his supporters and from his campaign.

This is such old news now, but what the hey! I'll respond to your comments:

"You mean like the respect Senator Clinton has shown by not congratulating Senator Obama when he wins a primary as he always does to her when she does?"

Petty. Who cares about congrats? I don't care if she congratulates or he congratulates. It doesn't matter. But I do care about a bunch of Obama supporters blatantly calling Hillary a witch, or a *itch, as they have on this blog. And the constant dispatching of attendees to rallies to boo and hiss at her. And then making a commercial of it. That is about as low as it gets in a campaign. If you've ever done any of it, you know. Hey, were you in Pittsburgh, per chance?

"Or by her campaign feeding Senator Obama's picture in a turban to the drudge report?"

Her campaign didn't feed them anything. It was the Obama campaign that hopped on that to use it as a race-bait strategy as it has throughout the campaign. Come on, Erich, really. That *hit was about as transparent as it gets.

"Or her campaigning blackening Senator Obama up for one of their videos?"

You are really determined to race bait aren't you? I haven't even heard that one before.

"Or implying that the only hard working Americans are white Americans thereby implying that Senator Obama's supporters are nothing but lazy minorities or elitists?"

That's a lot of "implying". Implications are highly subjective. Sounds like you are the one stretching to make race an issue, agian, typical of a BO fan.

"Or that he's not a muslim "as far as she knows"?"

1.You should be taking issue with the journalist who kept asking her that over and over again looking for a "gotcha" moment. Oh, yeah, that's right, you are only concerned about that when it's Obama being interrogated. The precious few times he has been.

2. You are reaching again. It's a fair and direct response. He is not a Muslim, as far as she knows. This time you are religion-baiting.

"You mean that type of respect?"

I mean drop your hateful edge and admit that you need Hillary and her supporters, if you want Obama to have a chance in the election. That type of respect. As in, don't take us for granted. As in, reach out to us. But, hey if you want to keep stoking this, we will be happy to take this all the way to Denver. We don't have anything to lose by it, you know.

Posted by: K | May 25, 2008 7:48 PM "

We get it, already, K! Bow down to the Queen! I thought we did away with that in 1779.

Posted by: tom | May 25, 2008 11:58 PM

Here is a woman that got elected in the most diverse city in the world, gladly stroking the flames of racism, and accepting the votes of biggots without even saying a word, Hilary we will remember on election day in New York you in New York, you evil witch.

We now know the only reason you came to NY is because we have more delegates than Arkansas.


Please go join your friends in Appalachia.

Posted by: liftalee | May 26, 2008 12:00 AM

To be fair, this isn't Hillary fanning the flames. It's Terry McAuliffe. He's way out of line. (Clinton should get some better people around her.) It's clear that Clinton doesn't believe what people are implying, but to suggest that the Obama camp inflamed the issue is an absurd assertion. Terry should be ashamed. Quite honestly, if Obama had said something like that, no doubt he would have pounced; Axelrod has done nothing but been generous, yet McAuliffe still finds fault! Obama didn't wait around 'three days' like Terry says. Axelrod quelled the same day during Hardball with Chris Matthews! Obama quieted the suggestion when he was first asked directly the very next day in PR! I find it unconscionable that Terry would try to make this Obama's fault. Very wrong.

I have little patience for Clinton's advisors. And while I still respect Clinton herself, I say...

Obama 08

Posted by: j f n | May 26, 2008 12:01 AM

I guess Hillary's chances for anything at the Convention just went up in smokes.

But Obama supporters, admit it, Hillary is one excellent professional victim.

Posted by: Wildone | May 26, 2008 12:02 AM

She either has misplaced her medication or she really has lost it. She keeps digging a bigger hole for her political self. Someone tell her it's over.
Obama '08!!!!

Posted by: JCar | May 26, 2008 12:02 AM

What is really scary is that they actually let people like A.Sand and Ana Sarca VOTE!!!!!!!

Posted by: WENDELL | May 26, 2008 12:02 AM

Quick questions for Hillary or else supporters:
If Obama is unelectable, what is Hillary?
Wasn't Kerry the most electable Democrat in 2004?
Who has actually work with working people outside the courtroom?
Which candidate said that the votes cast in Caucus don't count?
Which candidate lied and didn't take name off Michigan ballot (yes she said she would remove her name)?
Which candidate planted questions?
Which candidate will force you to buy Health care?
Which democratic candidate backs a Gas Tax gimmick?
Who was right on day 1 about Iraq?
Who was the first candidate of change?
Be honest with your answers.

Posted by: MM | May 26, 2008 12:04 AM

To All Obama supporters who are condescending to us hillary supporters..the road to whitehouse runs through us. So you better start sucking up to us ad drop the attitude in these boards.

Unless you want Mccin thrash your candidate in Nov.

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I always wonder, when people talk about the 'good ole days' of this proud country, what do they mean. Do you mean the extermination of the native americans, burning women as witches, puritanism, slavery, civil war, bombing Hiroshima, using napalm bombs, watergate, Reaganomics, assassinations of Kennedy, Luther King and Kennedy, or unprovoked wars, secret prisons and torture? When exactly were Americas "the good guys". Oh yea the 50s and 60s when white people were doing the twist and minorities where being hung from tress and sprayed with water hoses :) Honestly. Do the intelligent thinkg for once. Get over your biases and vote for the level headed guy. Obama 08

Posted by: Bill | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I am WHITWE like my name suggests and hope that the media would think I am a hard working person despite the fact that I am white...it must be that only whites work hard in this country and in certain states...this is pathetic...to think that Hillary will win in Nov. is plike telling I am going to win the lottery... we have a chane to be magnanimous and try to be fair to a BLACK candidate but we cannot do that because we are more about talking and not reality....Hillary has done so many things that if the BLACK candidate had dared to do he would have been out of the race but this country has a long way to go when we are trying to bring DEMOCRACY to the WORLD!!! The world sees us for the HYPOCRICY and i wonder when we as a Nation will get it!!!!

Posted by: Jim Swenson | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I am WHITWE like my name suggests and hope that the media would think I am a hard working person despite the fact that I am white...it must be that only whites work hard in this country and in certain states...this is pathetic...to think that Hillary will win in Nov. is plike telling I am going to win the lottery... we have a chane to be magnanimous and try to be fair to a BLACK candidate but we cannot do that because we are more about talking and not reality....Hillary has done so many things that if the BLACK candidate had dared to do he would have been out of the race but this country has a long way to go when we are trying to bring DEMOCRACY to the WORLD!!! The world sees us for the HYPOCRICY and i wonder when we as a Nation will get it!!!!

Posted by: Jim Swenson | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I am WHITWE like my name suggests and hope that the media would think I am a hard working person despite the fact that I am white...it must be that only whites work hard in this country and in certain states...this is pathetic...to think that Hillary will win in Nov. is plike telling I am going to win the lottery... we have a chane to be magnanimous and try to be fair to a BLACK candidate but we cannot do that because we are more about talking and not reality....Hillary has done so many things that if the BLACK candidate had dared to do he would have been out of the race but this country has a long way to go when we are trying to bring DEMOCRACY to the WORLD!!! The world sees us for the HYPOCRICY and i wonder when we as a Nation will get it!!!!

Posted by: Jim Swenson | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I am WHITWE like my name suggests and hope that the media would think I am a hard working person despite the fact that I am white...it must be that only whites work hard in this country and in certain states...this is pathetic...to think that Hillary will win in Nov. is plike telling I am going to win the lottery... we have a chane to be magnanimous and try to be fair to a BLACK candidate but we cannot do that because we are more about talking and not reality....Hillary has done so many things that if the BLACK candidate had dared to do he would have been out of the race but this country has a long way to go when we are trying to bring DEMOCRACY to the WORLD!!! The world sees us for the HYPOCRICY and i wonder when we as a Nation will get it!!!!

Posted by: Jim Swenson | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

Very well said, liftalee...

"The only reason she (Hillary) came to New York is because it has more delegates than Arkansas."

Posted by: Infinite | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I always thought that Obama would need a food taster if he was crazy enough to ask HRC to be VP.

Posted by: karl popovich | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

I am WHITWE like my name suggests and hope that the media would think I am a hard working person despite the fact that I am white...it must be that only whites work hard in this country and in certain states...this is pathetic...to think that Hillary will win in Nov. is plike telling I am going to win the lottery... we have a chane to be magnanimous and try to be fair to a BLACK candidate but we cannot do that because we are more about talking and not reality....Hillary has done so many things that if the BLACK candidate had dared to do he would have been out of the race but this country has a long way to go when we are trying to bring DEMOCRACY to the WORLD!!! The world sees us for the HYPOCRICY and i wonder when we as a Nation will get it!!!!

Posted by: Jim Swenson | May 26, 2008 12:05 AM

Quick questions for Hillary or else supporters:
If Obama is unelectable, what is Hillary?
Wasn't Kerry the most electable Democrat in 2004?
Who has actually work with working people outside the courtroom?
Which candidate said that the votes cast in Caucus don't count?
Which candidate lied and didn't take name off Michigan ballot (yes she said she would remove her name)?
Which candidate planted questions?
Which candidate will force you to buy Health care?
Which democratic candidate backs a Gas Tax gimmick?
Who was right on day 1 about Iraq?
Who was the first candidate of change?
Be honest with your answers.

Posted by: MM | May 26, 2008 12:06 AM

Hillary's camp has lowered itself to using blackmail in trying to get her the nomination. It won't work. Just because Terry McCaullif and others put the idea out there and some of you bit, don't think it means a thing.

Voting republican when you believe in the democratic platform just because you are PO'd makes as much sense as .. well, it just doesn't make any sense. All of this broughaha will be forgotten soon. You'll demonize McCain like you did Bush, and you'll be back in the fold.

Posted by: Cured One | May 26, 2008 12:06 AM

This is for all Clinton supporters who are threatening to vote for John McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination...PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VOTE MCCAIN....YOU CAN EVEN VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH AGAIN FOR ALL I CARE.If all you see in Obama is his color,if all you understand about politics is what Hillary is telling you,if you think your children will be better off under another bush presidency,then for goodness sake vote for McCain and be happy for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Ike | May 26, 2008 12:06 AM

Do I need to go back to Arkansas, New York, or Chicago? Oh, what shall I do now?

Posted by: Hillary | May 26, 2008 12:07 AM

Quick questions for Hillary or else supporters:
If Obama is unelectable, what is Hillary?
Wasn't Kerry the most electable Democrat in 2004?
Who has actually work with working people outside the courtroom?
Which candidate said that the votes cast in Caucus don't count?
Which candidate lied and didn't take name off Michigan ballot (yes she said she would remove her name)?
Which candidate planted questions?
Which candidate will force you to buy Health care?
Which democratic candidate backs a Gas Tax gimmick?
Who was right on day 1 about Iraq?
Who was the first candidate of change?
Be honest with your answers.

Posted by: MM | May 26, 2008 12:08 AM

"This is about the longest time anyone has ever spent taking their ball and going home."

Thank you for that; I couldn't have put it better!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:08 AM

OMG! The "victim" cries foul again. Get out of the kitchen Hillary!

Posted by: MML127 | May 26, 2008 12:08 AM

It maybe true. The KKK are out there.

Posted by: Russell | May 26, 2008 12:09 AM

It's obvious why Obama's campaign has decided to not fuel this. They are hoping the mad cow will just go away in a couple of weeks time. They want to try to unite the party.
Clinton has noticed them treading on eggshells, and instead of seeing the larger picture, she suddenly see's an oportunity to blame Obama for it.
Most guys will know the following:
You say sorry to your wife/girlfriend to shut her up, even when she's wrong ...
She then starts foaming at the mouth.
"See? You finally admitted it! You don't know what you put me through! ... You bastard!"
:))

Posted by: Klark | May 26, 2008 12:09 AM

Maybe, if I click my shoes 3 times then I will be out of this mess.

Posted by: Hillary C. | May 26, 2008 12:09 AM

I find the Clinton campaign unbelievable.
Macbeth at its worst.
Hillary hasn't made a "policy" speech in quite a while - just "me, me, me" and "I've simply got to win this".
The mental instabilitly shown in this weekend's comments and her reaction are too much to bear in someone competing for the Presidency. She's Nixon squared!
The best thing for her right now would be some nice place with a name like "Shady Rest" and a comfy white jacket with very long sleeves.

Posted by: Sara | May 26, 2008 12:10 AM

"This is for all Clinton supporters who are threatening to vote for John McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination...PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VOTE MCCAIN...."

OK. I will. Thanks for your encouragement.

Posted by: Prettierthanthou | May 26, 2008 12:10 AM

all this election crap is misdirection anyway. 4 dollar gas and rising? food costs? credit crunching? of course politicians would like to see us squabble over race and gender and who said what or whos gonna vote for who. meanwhile americas going to the crapper while the govornment and banks and oil companys get filthy stankin rich

Posted by: gamehog | May 26, 2008 12:12 AM

what amazes me is that we are about to elect a Daley machine Chicago gangster, who financially owes his butt to criminals, and politically is left of Karl Marx, and has demonstrated a hatred for the nation he sucks a paycheck on.

Posted by: rick prohaska | May 26, 2008 12:12 AM

I think I've got it!!! Maybe, if I can't win the nomination, or be the VP choice, then I will run for "Speaker of the House".. ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Posted by: Hillary C. | May 26, 2008 12:14 AM

"what amazes me is that we are about to elect a Daley machine Chicago gangster, who financially owes his butt to criminals, and politically is left of Karl Marx, and has demonstrated a hatred for the nation he sucks a paycheck on."

We may nominate him, but we will never elect him.

Posted by: prettierthanyou | May 26, 2008 12:14 AM

This has got to be the scariest political blog I've encountered. There are people here threatening to assassinate one of their own candidates by luring him with "chicken and watermelon" and showing him what guns can do. Then we have all the posts from illiterate Clinton supporters who tell us they aren't racist because they voted for someone "black" and then in the same breath say that he isn't getting criticism because he is black. Scary stuff.

It seems to me depressingly obvious that I've overestimated Americans. I actually thought they were lucky to have someone as informed and dignified as Obama; he's young, but with the extraordinary campaign he's run, he's proven he can make things happen. He's also withstood a great deal of nonsense and made some pretty strong come-backs. Seems to me if the ardent Clintonists vote for McCain out of a bilious racism and out of spite for Obama, they've only revealed to the world exactly what awful racism undergirds America and how terribly self-destructive its people can be. Clearly, America still hasn't lost enough of its children in foreign wars and hasn't suffered enough economically to learn its lessons. Voting for McCain will only continue to take the US down that self-destructive path it seems determined to follow.

And yes, Clinton's comments were shameful. Telling the world you are holding on to a race you've already lost in case the leader is assassinated strikes me as crazed and drunk with power. Sad.

Posted by: Canajun | May 26, 2008 12:14 AM

Y'll, you need to see this Fox video that someone earlier - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0 send it to everyone you know. I cannot believe it. I just can't believe it.

Posted by: Debbie S. | May 26, 2008 12:14 AM

How dumb does Hillary Clinton think the voting public is? Obama caused the flap? He was gracious enough to let it go. No one can possibly believe her, with the possible exception of that small segment of society made up of ignorant old women with blue hair.

Posted by: Anita Mason | May 26, 2008 12:15 AM

I think Hillary is a Republican. She shounds exactly like President Bush!

Posted by: Betty Jean | May 26, 2008 12:15 AM

I always wonder, when people talk about the 'good ole days' of this proud country, what do they mean. Do you mean the extermination of the native americans, burning women as witches, puritanism, slavery, civil war, bombing Hiroshima, using napalm bombs, watergate, Reaganomics, assassinations of Kennedy, Luther King and Kennedy, or unprovoked wars, secret prisons and torture? When exactly were Americas "the good guys". Oh yea the 50s and 60s when white people were doing the twist and minorities where being hung from tress and sprayed with water hoses :) Honestly. Do the intelligent thing for once. Get over your biases and vote for the level headed guy. Obama 08

Posted by: Chip Reagan Hannity | May 26, 2008 12:15 AM

Women of America, or rather, middle aged and older women of America, I salute your dedication to supporting the concept of a woman President. However, there is a problem. Hillary Clinton is Not the right woman for the job. Her demagoguery, irrationality, hypocrisy, and deceitfulness do not represent the women of this country. Her campaign tactics are reminiscent of the Bush Administration leadership style. The nation is ready for a woman to take the lead. She is not the one, reflecting unkindly on an entire gender.

Posted by: M. Luigi | May 26, 2008 12:16 AM

Well, at least we know if there is an attempt on his life it will be by some backwoods racist redneck with a 3rd grade education (you know, Hillary's base), and not by a professional hit man. This is because any professional hit man would expect to be paid, and if there is one thing Hillary has in this campaign is that she is a lying deadbeat who has left vendors accross this country with unpaid invoices to the tune of more than 10 million dollars.

Posted by: SLC_Raider | May 26, 2008 12:16 AM

Have either one of the Clintons ever taken responsibility for the dumb things they've said and done, or for their (rather frequent) lapses in judgement? I honestly can't recall an instance where either of them have. It's always a matter of others' "misinterpretation," or of the perpetual state of passive erasure in which the Clintons live: "mistakes were made" (by whom? Certainly not by ME!)

And McAuliffe and Wolfson at this point have NO credibility anymore. Let the Democratic party turn the page on all of them. It's the only way forward.

Posted by: R. Squibbs | May 26, 2008 12:16 AM

"obama is a passive aggressive twit.

thinkig people know this"

Posted by: | May 25, 2008 5:22 PM
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Nice to know you're still thinkig

Posted by: Joe | May 26, 2008 12:16 AM

What a complete DISGRACE she has become, my GOD I hate this woman! I'm sorry but this is just evil beyond words. Please DNC take this woman out of the race already!

Posted by: Nicole 4 Obama | May 26, 2008 12:17 AM

How come I am getting resumes from people who work for Hillary Clinton?

PLEASE stop sending me your resumes.

Posted by: Mahe | May 26, 2008 12:18 AM

Dont Worry obamabots....this is definitely going to conventions.....your messiah who likes to take it in his ass is not going to get the nomination...keep on dreaming you retards...

Posted by: Don'tWorry | May 26, 2008 12:18 AM

Hillary Clihton: "The Audacity of Lying"


Again, Obama took the high road (unlike Hillary with "bitter" which she misrepresented into a campaign ad). Still, the Clinton campaigns slings mud.


Again, she takes NO RESPONSIBILITY, MISREPRESENTS her own words, and BLAMES Obama (and/or the media, sexism, etc.) for it!!!!


Incredible!!! Her (non) apology and her Op-Ed today STILL made no mention of Obama!


In her Op-Ed, she completely MISREPRESENTS her words on Friday--leaving out "assassinated" completely and turning it into a quote no one should apologize for.


Lies, dirty tricks, and more lies. If Obama is like Robert Kennedy, Hillary is surely the incarnation of Richard Nixon.

Posted by: Kali | May 26, 2008 12:19 AM

Ive never heard such ignorance coming from a lot of white people on here calling Obama a communists and a muslim actually on here to fan the flames of racism. It was the clintons who said that Jesse jackson won SC. It was the clintons that said that i get the white vote. They have blamed her loss of sexism. They have used every excuse they can think of to blame anyone for their bad campaign. She also compared the Fl and Mich vote to civil rights. She has changed her campaign slogan and strategy just as much as changes the end game. She made the remark which she could have used plenty of other analogies. She is also wrong on that husband didnt win the nomination until June. Thats a flat out lie! He had it wrapped up before that. U check the facts hillary supporters. U cant see that she twists all the facts and the math. U r that myopic? She says she has the popular vote which thats not the rules. Its the delegates but she is still not ahead in the popular vote. Why don people look into her past like she defended the black panther party and worked for a law firm that was part of the communist party. This is ridiculous. Just look at how many people think she does not tell the truth. Is that a good trait to have as a nominee..Please. The bad part is would have supported her if she did win. I know i would not vote the that old fart McCain....

Posted by: emanism | May 26, 2008 12:19 AM

First we have Huckabee and now Hillary making these kind of suggestions. I've never witnessed this kind of talk coming out presidential candidates mouths before. These thoughts were on their minds and they had a slip of the tongue. I think it's disgusting and shame on Huck and Hill.

Posted by: Jessica | May 26, 2008 12:19 AM

She is certifiable, and I think McAullife may be slipping her mind altering drugs....that is the only way a rational person can explain how a once intelligent, lucent, coherent individual could have become such a loon in a short period of time....yes, pharmacology...any better ideas out there?

Posted by: Jaybird
------------------
Jaybird...drugs are not necessarily needed to arrive at the state which Hilliary exhibits. Uncontrolled envy, bitter resentment, deep-seated anger, heavy indebtedness, and desperation lead to the type of behavior Hilliary has been exhibiting for some time now. The behavior has become more pronounced as the campaigns have moved from month to month. You can see it in her face and in her expressions, motions, and in her crazy speeches. Hilliary has abandoned the world of reality and is now living in a world of her own!! When she was giving her "I regret" speech, she kept looking downward with occassional glances to her left and to her right, never once looking at the camera!!

Please go to:

http://alaskareport.com/upi8/u41668-clinton-debt-htm

PS: Please note the 1 in u41668 might be an ell or a one. Am not real sure. If one does not work, try the other. :)


Posted by: NinaK | May 26, 2008 12:19 AM

Hillary's behavior confirms/reinforces the worst stereotypes about women...a person of absolutely of no substance whatsoever-in my view.

Posted by: truly,a worthless fembot | May 26, 2008 12:20 AM

Unbelievable.

Clinton is un-b-freakin-lievable.
She makes an utterly despicable comment
(if she doesn't realize how despicable it is then she's completely clueless too)
She doesn't apologize..
Then she blames the other party?

What kind of kool-aid do they serve on Planet Clinton?

She's not qualified to be a.... oh nevermind, don't want to offend anyone.

Posted by: Calibear | May 26, 2008 12:20 AM

These comments prove only one thing....
if you have a product that you want to
sell to lunatics, advertise in the Washington Post.

Posted by: Dale | May 26, 2008 12:20 AM

Grapsing at straws again/still. Does her campaign staff protect her so much that she doesn't know what an ass the American people (the majority, not including HRC supporters)think she has made of herself.

Lie after lie after lie after misdirection after poor management. I don't understand the Hillary supporters at all, what do they think this woman will do in the Whitehouse differently than she has done on her campaign.

She'll run the country broke, not have plans for after that and she does NOT have enough money to buy her way out of that hole.

She'll lie to the faces of foreign leaders, plot behind their backs and then deny it when the issues come to light.

She'll throw blame anywhere but herself and even if she does take the blame never make a proper apology.

These last statements are made by extrapolating directly from observing what she has done with her campaign. If you think she'll do differently, what are your grounds for it? She has shown that her abilities are not up to the level of management the country needs and STILL many people refuse to believe it.

If you don't think she has done her best campaigning for the nominee slot, why do you think she should get the position. If she HAS done her best then she has shown that she isn't up to the task.

One last thing "I'll vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get it". Good Lord people, you sound like my five year old. If I can't have my way I'll do something to get back at you. Such a very mature concept. Plunge the nation into another four years of Bush light. Allow the supreme court to curtail women's rights (since those people McCain would appoint will do that). If you are truly a Democrat, you wouldn't say these things. If you are mature, you won't base your vote on an "I can't have my own way so I'm going to do this" temper tantrum.

Why do I bother, no-one listens. They are all too wrapped up in this, that or the other thing to take an introspective look and try to place the future of the ENTIRE COUNTRY over their own temper tantrums...

Tom...

Posted by: Tom | May 26, 2008 12:21 AM

Terry is merely a high-priced flak.

Harold is the evil puppetmaster.

Howard is the dutiful apologist.

Bill, sans consultants, staff and presidential toys, has slowly sunk from controversy to utter disgrace.

The Clintons are about to fade from the world stage. We never thought they would go quietly or gracefully.

Posted by: gorgon '08 | May 26, 2008 12:22 AM

I find it funny that Obama supporters (including those in the media) openly assert that everybody who did not vote for Hillary is a racist - especially after her big wins in Kentucky and West Virginia. You don't see her supporters calling Obama followers sexists - which would follow the same logic. Most people in states like Kentucky and West Virginia are not "hillbillies", nor "uneducated" nor "racists." That is just too easy of an excuse for the Obama camp. If you want to talk about race, Obama supporters are the ones who are more likely to vote based on race. About 90% of blacks vote for Obama, which is more than every other demographic for any candidate - including white women for Hillary. The fact is that neither race nor gender should matter... the only thing that should matter is who is the better candidate. People in states like Kentucky and West Virginia, who have come out in strong numbers for Hillary, are to a large degree people who make $40,000 or less (people who are teachers, nurses, and blue-collar workers) and are strongly affected by the economy. Unlike Obama supporters, these people are realists not dreamers. They realize that Hillary is a candidate who can actually bring some changes to make their lives a little better. Like 'em or hate 'em, the Clinton name has been tested and proven in American politics. Bill showed us how to fix the economy in 1992, and brought America into the greatest period of prosperity in recent history. Some critics argue that it's different now... they're right, the economy today is even worse. Hillary has a thorough plan, and, with Bill by her side, will do no less for us today. Obama, however, does not have the track record or the experience of the Clintons. As a matter of fact, he is only in his first term in Congress. Nor does he have sufficient details in his plans to back up the rhetoric (Hillary does, just look at her website compared to his). Obama is promising to change the world, and this can sound good to people, but he will most likely not be able to deliver much change.

Posted by: vote4realchange | May 26, 2008 12:22 AM

I am very offended and greatly disturbed by these remarks by HRC and remember RFKs murder quite vividly.

I remember crying.

It was a VERY SAD YEAR.

Vietnam War
RFK
MLK
Social Problems,
Cold War
etc.
etc.

To you younger people on this blog, this is your time. make a choice.

What kind of world do you / we want?

Social justice ? Meritocracy ?

Great challenges await us as a nation.

The pendulum must swing back into balance for us to prosper.

But don't be blind, research for your self, get informed. Democracy needs it.

Posted by: Independent Voter | May 26, 2008 12:23 AM

How pathetic are you people, Hillary mentions an historical fact about RFK and then all of the sudden you paranoid nitwits try to make her out to be a political assassin. Then you idiots sit back and wonder why we will never support your candidate for president.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 26, 2008 12:23 AM

Memo to McAuliffe:

It wasn't the Obama Campaign - it was anyone who has any sensitivity of the tragedies of American Presidential History - that was offended.

Posted by: Calibear | May 26, 2008 12:23 AM

No true democrat would ever vote for McCain. McCain supporters are not even the least bit liberal. These posts you see are mostly DINO's. Democrats In Name Only. You will see the destruction of America if McCain is elected. Mark my words!!

Posted by: victorvondoom | May 26, 2008 12:24 AM

a bitter hateful woman, wow no wonder bill screwed monica, that witch mussa tried kill him, vince foster who killed u? Scaife said as did falwell allege hrc, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:24 AM

There are some sick f*cks on here wishing Obama be killed. Burn in hell you low life disguisting KKK worshiping DEVILS!

I hate Billary and hope she goes away soon!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:25 AM

Has anyone ever noticed that the Hillary supporters don't know how to spell or use proper English?

Posted by: jds | May 26, 2008 12:25 AM

"One last thing "I'll vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get it". Good Lord people, you sound like my five year old. If I can't have my way I'll do something to get back at you. Such a very mature concept."

Since you're so attached to the idea that Clinton supporters are immature, here are three words for you, Tom:

I.Don't.Care.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:25 AM

"Do I need to go back to Arkansas, New York, or Chicago? Oh, what shall I do now?

Posted by: Hillary | May 26, 2008 12:07 AM "

The sun shines bright on your ol' Kentucky home.


'Tis summer; the Darkies are gay.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:26 AM

This is how Clinton was taught to count:

2 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - 12 11 13 14 15 ... and so on

and add:

1 + 1 = 4

3 + 3 = 4

Posted by: numerics | May 26, 2008 12:27 AM

You cited what Bill has done for the country. Please explain to me how that qualifies Hillary for anything. Last I checked Obama has been an elected official longer than she has. By this "well she was IN the White House " as her experience stuff. I guess Jackie-O, Barb Bush and hell even Chelsea Clinton is qualified for office.

Posted by: vote for real change? | May 26, 2008 12:27 AM

Hillary Clinton and Terry Mcauliffe's Election Plans:

PLAN A : Race Baiting

PLAN B : Cry Sexism

if both plans fail....

PLAN C : Assassination

Posted by: oneder | May 26, 2008 12:28 AM

Bottom line: a presidential candidate raising the spectre of assassination is just down right obscene in whatever context. Clinton should be thoughtful enough to discern this. The backlash has nothing to do with the Obama campaigns' response. I was outraged by virtue of the reference alone; in context or out; just the mention of assassination is enough, not to mention the deep, dark memories of those years. And this, aside from the fact that we have an African-American front-runner. In the back of my mind, as in many others, I am concerned about this very kind of threat.

I don't want to hear anymor from Clinton. She hurts my ears and I hope she is stopped. G-d knows she doesn't know when enough is enough.

Posted by: mors | May 26, 2008 12:28 AM

k

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:28 AM

Um.... She could have, and should have, simply said that Bobby Kennedy stayed in the race... period. He stayed in the race. Thats it. But she consciously decided to say that Bobby was killed / assassinated in June...'remember!?'. (Twice!!) Ugh.... Tasteless, tactless, pathetic, desperate, and utterly despicable.

Posted by: Scott | May 26, 2008 12:29 AM

MM - Nice list!


Quick questions for Hillary or else supporters:
If Obama is unelectable, what is Hillary?
Wasn't Kerry the most electable Democrat in 2004?
Who has actually work with working people outside the courtroom?
Which candidate said that the votes cast in Caucus don't count?
Which candidate lied and didn't take name off Michigan ballot (yes she said she would remove her name)? *****
Which candidate planted questions?
Which candidate will force you to buy Health care?
Which democratic candidate backs a Gas Tax gimmick?
Who was right on day 1 about Iraq?
Who was the first candidate of change?
Be honest with your answers.

Please don't try to confuse us with fact. Everyone knows these were all miss-quotes.

***** Especially like that one

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 12:29 AM

"Last I checked Obama has been an elected official longer than she has."

Being elected to the Illinois State Senate is the equivalent of being elected dogcatcher.

It's a part-time job, made even more part time if the office-holder rarely shows up.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:29 AM

If you've got two examples of candidacies that ran into June, one of them is your husband's and the other is Bobby Kennedy's, you have a weak argument anyway, so why the hell bring up RFK and mention that he was killed? It just makes NO sense! Better to say nothing. Better to say, "There is historical precedent for primary candidacies to run into June" and leave it at that. She's too smart a lady not to realize this -- therefore I am FORCED to draw the conclusion that she was saying, "Hey, anything could happen, better keep me on the ticket just in case." Which is reprehensible.

Posted by: JimBob | May 26, 2008 12:29 AM

"HILLARY CLINTON: people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa, ahh...

ARGUS LEADER: Why?....

HILLARY CLINTON: I don't know,...

ARGUS LEADER: ....why?.....

HILLARY CLINTON: ....I don't know....I don't ...I find it curious, because...it is unprecedented in history. I don't understand it, you know between my opponent and his camp and some in the media there has been this...urgency to end this, and you know, I ... historically that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery..

ARGUS LEADER: You don't buy the unity argument?

HILLARY CLINTON: I don't. (crosstalk)....because again I've been around long enough, uh,... my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary, uhhh..somewhere in the middle of June..

ARGUS LEADER: ...June...

HILLARY CLINTON: (crosstalk)...right?... We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June, in California, ah, I...I just don't understand it. There's lots of speculation about why it is, but ah,..."

Clinton was trying to avoid answering the question(her question by the way) "why do people want you out".

Her first answer Bill Clinton candacy lasted to june fell flat because Bill was more in McCains position at this point than hers. Party unity was not a problem.

Her second answer was Bobby Kennedy(the front runner in his nomination) was assassinated in june. The party unified around the second runner up. Who is the front runner in this nomination Barrack Obama. And were he assassinated who would the party unify around ... the second runner up Hilary Clinton.

No its pretty clear that the Bobby Kennedy analogy was more than just a time line. The Bobby Kennedy analogy was meant to be more analogous to Clintons current situation ... otherwise she would not have needed a second analogy. While she's not leaning over and whispering "die" in his ear ... clearly she's hanging around just in case he might.

Posted by: beaupritchard | May 26, 2008 12:29 AM

To the morons talking about using Art 3 of the 14th amendment to keep Obama out of office: Did you READ all of Art 3? He has to be convicted of having "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the [US/states], or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Wright, Ayres, Farakhan, or Rezko were never convicted of such. I'm pretty sure Obama was not either. Try again.

Posted by: Bill Braski | May 26, 2008 12:30 AM

"Since you're so attached to the idea that Clinton supporters are immature, here are three words for you, Tom:

I.Don't.Care.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:25 AM "

I'm probably not the "tom" you're referring to Hugh, but I've got two words for you.

Me. Either.

And seven more.

Vote. for. McCain. and. be. damned.

Now that we know your principles.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:30 AM

Wait till the supers come out on June 4th and ends this thing. Then we will see who the winner is and Hillery will have to leave the race as no one will be paying any attention to her and we will be on the general. She wont be getting what she wants from Mich. and Fla ether. I cannot wait. Obama Obama Yes we can and yes we can.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:30 AM

I feel nauseous reading this. The Clintons are Exhibit A of how politics can turn good, talented human beings into monsters. They've fought for so long, been involved in so many crises and scandals that all they know is to dig in and fight against what they believe is a unfair, hostile world out to get them.

Even when she's made a horrific error and showed incredible lack of taste with her RFK quote, all she can think of is winning at all costs and fighting some more.

I voted for Bill twice in the 1990s. Now the Clintons just sicken me.

Posted by: Ray | May 26, 2008 12:30 AM

HughMorville:

"I.Don't.Care."

Then why did you bother to respond? Taking lessons from HRC and lying your teeth off? If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't have cared enough to bother to post. Since you did I know you are lying. As a side note, I do care... That is why I am supporting the democratic candidate who has demonstrated the ability to hold together a campaign, keep it financed, stay mostly on message, and is winning.

Thanks for your input, good to know you "don't care" enough to respond.

Tom...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:31 AM

Hillary Clinton's remarks if the shoe was on the other foot and Obama brought up the evil specter of assassination.

"I demand that Senator Barack Obama be brought under investigation for his assassinations remarks. Right? We know the history of violence in this country towards woman and Obama is inciting violence towards my personal safety. You know, we all remember what OJ Simpson did to his ex-wife Nicole and Ron Goldman. African Americans have especially shown a propensity of sexism and violence against women like Gerry Ferraro said. Senator Barack Obama owes Robert F. Kennedy, his family, myself and all my supporters a direct apology. You know, Senator Obama preaches unity but wants do divide this country pointing to it's violent roots. Super delegates need to give me the nomination because Senator Obama has proven he does not have the character to be President of the United States of America. Right?"

Posted by: KQuark | May 26, 2008 12:31 AM

Extra!
Extra!
Read all about it!

Hillary is "assassinating" her own foot with a repeating rifle!!!

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | May 26, 2008 12:32 AM

I am no as outraged with the Hillary supporters as I am with Hillary herself. Their continuous calls to tell people to get over this or worse justify Hillary's comments is outrageous. The anger is real because EVERY Obama supporter is gravely concerned about his safety. To bring up the specter of assassination given the history of American politics is insight this violence plan and simple.

In the beginning of the campaign I could barely watch Obama hope that nothing bad would happen to him. After he won the IA caucus I thought America had really moved on and did not worry about Obama's safety as much. Then after the racist in IN did not shake Obama's hand I came back to reality like a brick hitting me in the face. After that all the talk was about race and watching the obvious racial bias in the WV and KY my concerns for Obama's safety rose higher and higher. Then came Huckabee's comments which probably came out of behind the scenes talks are the NRA convention. I was at the point were when he gave his pledge victory speech in IA out doors at night I found myself almost in a panic for his safety.

Then Hillary jumps in the mix and justifies all our fears because she is brining up the ugly fact that assassination is a real possibility and that's one reason she is staying in the race.

Posted by: KQuark | May 26, 2008 12:33 AM

Hillary: Never, ever, ever, ever give up!!! Take this to the convention floor if necessary, and wrestle them to the ground.

Women: You have lost the best possibility you'll have in your lifetimes of having the woman president so many of you agitated for through the 1960's and 1970's. Ooh, wait; yes, there's still Michelle!

Posted by: David A. Burack | May 26, 2008 12:33 AM

"Hillary's camp has lowered itself to using blackmail in trying to get her the nomination. It won't work. Just because Terry McCaullif and others put the idea out there and some of you bit, don't think it means a thing."

A thought. Isn't Terry McAuliffe a senior member of the Democratic National Committee? Or wasn't he until, say, tomorrow?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:33 AM

In this race there are three people, and:

only one person with class
only one person with integrity
only one person who is a real Democrat

Posted by: Kirk | May 26, 2008 12:34 AM

"I dont feel no ways tired" to "well even Jesse Jackson won SC"- from Bill playing the saxophone on Arsenio Hall to "hard working white people won't vote for a black guy"- from champions of equality to pandering directly to racist for votes. The Clintons have showed who they are. Politicians

Clinton can restore America to what it was in the extermination of the native americans, burning women as witches, puritanism, slavery, civil war, bombing Hiroshima, using napalm bombs, watergate, Reaganomics, assassinations of Kennedy, Luther King and Kennedy, or unprovoked wars, secret prisons and torture. When white people were doing the twist and minorities where being hung from tress and sprayed with water hoses :)

Posted by: Dave | May 26, 2008 12:34 AM

So go over to Talking Points Memo and watch the FOX harpie, Liz Trotta, amuse herself by suggesting Obama's assassination. This is one of the worst of the season. Makes Hillary herself look positively bland.

Posted by: Franklin E Schroeter | May 26, 2008 12:35 AM

The problem is she has no ethical standards. She thinks she can say anything or do anything to steal or be handed the nomination through tragedy. That's why she writes and Op-Ed piece today which is unapologetic. The women needs to drop out right after the primaries. Democrats have rejected her and will never forgive her for the campaign she ran. He die hard supporters are just as mean spirited as she is.

Hillary supporters are trying to threaten us by saying they will vote for McBush. If you are really that vindictive that you would vote for McBush when he is the same as the worse president in history, then go right ahead you will be blamed for the further decline of this country. You will be blamed win McBush overturns row v. wade. You will be blamed when McBush starts other wars. You will be blamed when McBush bankrupts this once great nation. Make no mistake about it you will be blamed along with Hillary.

Posted by: Meimii | May 26, 2008 12:35 AM

One of the interesting aspects of the Clinton campaign process from the beginning to this point in time is that it can be best understood, when we compare it to peeling a not so fresh onion one layer at a time. The closer you get to the center the more you begin to realize the essential rottenness lurking at the core. The longer Hillary carries on this "Captain of the World" quest for the Democratic Party nomination, the more she reveals to the thinking electorate how essentially devoid she is of that self-proclaimed status. Finally when all is revealed, it turns out that there is rottenness at the core. This self-destruction of a once perceived icon has been painful to watch.

Posted by: Character Counts | May 26, 2008 12:36 AM

"

I Love my country. Do you?:
"When did it become acceptable for a Muslim to become president?"

When they are at least 35 years old and natural-born citizens?

"Jeremiah "GD America" Wright?"

First you imply Senator Obama is a Muslim, as if there's something horrible about that, and then you complain about the pastor at his (Christian) church. It's OK if you don't like Obama, but you should at least make up your mind why. :)

"Michelle "I'm Proud of America for the first time" Obama"

And that's not what she said.

"He hates America and especially the working class on which America was built."

Hmm, yes, I can see why someone who hates America would run for President.

"He told us that we "cling to guns and religion" because were too dumb to know any better."

A) That's not what he said, and B) I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania, and bitterly clinging to guns and religion is a pretty accurate description.

"If Hillary isn't on the ballot in November, please vote McCain."

Not if you paid me.

Posted by: Craig | May 25, 2008 9:25 PM "

Do you send your sheets to the laundry, or hang them out to dry, Craig?

Where do they get these ignnorant peckerwoods, anyway? What is Hillary promising them?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:36 AM

Notice the only ones you see fanning that horrible story (and doing so quite visually) are Obama supporters. If you love your candidate, stop talking about this. I wish that Hillary had instead mentioned how in 1980, Teddy Kennedy refused to concede to Jimmy Carter, even though he had 700 fewer pledged delegates. Kennedy took it to the convention!! Is that the real motive behind these ridiuclous posts? Scared she might have a shot in Denver? I don't blame you. The Huffington Post is even carrying a huge story today about how Obama's campaign is an electoral college NO GO! Axelrode keeps stoking the conversation about "expanding the base." The base expanded to historic proportions because of these two candidates. It can't expand anymore. Nearly everyone has voted. Now all that can happen is that supporters are going to jump sides, which actually decreases the base that Axelrode thinks will take the place of where Obama cannot compete in electoral college states. Now that's just a dumb strategy.

Posted by: Wolves in Sheep's Clothing | May 26, 2008 12:37 AM

Utterly disgusting. She has embraced the fact that ignorant racists (ie. WV) are her base of support and basicly hinted that they should pick up their guns. Then apologized in a non-apology way for the absolute wrong part of it and blames the victim. It's a an incredibly new low.

Posted by: segsig | May 26, 2008 12:37 AM

HughMorville:

"I.Don't.Care."

"Then why did you bother to respond?"

Because I want to make it clear that your self-righteous nattering is not persuasive. Candidates are not interchangeable, and many of us think more of McCain than we do of Obama.

"Taking lessons from HRC and lying your teeth off? If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't have cared enough to bother to post."

I am posting for the benefit of those who regard opinions expressed in these comments as some kind of bellwether.

"Since you did I know you are lying."

People who throw around the words "lie" and "lying" either tend to be paranoid, or don't know what those words actually mean.

(rest of Tom's crap snipped)

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:38 AM

straight from the pit of hail: Hillary or should I say Killary.
Also joined today by another demon: Liz Trotta from FOX News, the misinformation Network: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/25/15389/8576/115/522617

We have to defend our democracy. We must never let open threat be tolerated like we do now.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:38 AM

"Obama & his campaign ought to be ashamed of themselves. They say one thing publicly and do another behind closed doors. They've taken a truthful and honest statement by Hillary and turned it around to vilify Hillary for their own good."

But they've never implied that Hillary should be shot!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:38 AM

In all honesty, what is frightening is not that Hillary is unraveling right in front of our eyes but the degree to which her supporters blind their eyes to her irrational psychotic behavior. Her supporters admire her, and well they should, but they have no sense at all that she is displaying signs of borderline personality disorder similar to Mommie Dearest. She's becoming more and more desperate and so are her admiring followers who are trying to protect her. There seems to be a disconnect in acknowledging her abnormal behavior. I know psychiatrists viewing her behavior cannot publicly comment for ethical and liability reasons, but someone needs to reach out to her before she becomes a danger to others or continue to influence others who may themselves be unstable.

Posted by: pilgrim | May 26, 2008 12:39 AM

I only hope that when Hillary is finally dispensed with, McCain can supply us with a new crop of bumbleheaded rednecks to keep the comedy going!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:40 AM

This is getting to be ridiculous.

We should be DEMOCRATS first, Clintonites second. Even though I do not like Barrack Obama, I will never vote republican. Neither will I help them by not voting our Democratic Nominee.

Posted by: WGO | May 26, 2008 12:41 AM

The Washington Post reveals a bias by erroneously stating the Obama Campaign is circulating critical commentary about the RFK comments by Senator Clinton. "A lie ain't a side of a story, it's just a lie."

Posted by: John Californian | May 26, 2008 12:41 AM

Hillary supporters threatening Obama supports by not voting for Obama in the general will only make you the blame for four more years of Bush.

-You will be blamed for getting Roe v. Wade overturned.
-You will be blamed when McBush starts other wars.
-You will be blamed for the continual decline of the middle class because of McBush tax cuts that include $300MMM more tax cuts for the rich and big business.
-You will be responsible for 100 more years war/occupation in Iraq.
-You will be responsible for millions more Americans that cannot afford or get health care.
-You will be responsible for $400/barrel oil and $8/gal gasoline.
-You will be enabling the nation to go bankrupt.
-You will be enabling more free trade agreements that hurt American workers.
-You will be enabling supreme court justices that vote against American interests over corporate interest every time.
-You will be blamed for four more yeas of incompetent government run by lobbyists.

Don't for a moment think that Hillary could win in 2012 because she will be the blame along with you.

Posted by: Meimii | May 26, 2008 12:41 AM

Wow! I can't believe the comments on this article. I didn't know us Americans still thought like that...I find this very scary. We haven't come far as a people at all. At least 300 years behind Europe...

I'm voting for the best candidate - be they whatever. I wasn't raised to hate people based on what was different between them and I.

All of America was offended by Hillary's comments, except her supporters who justify anything she says.

Posted by: shurely | May 26, 2008 12:42 AM

Um...Have ANY of you actually read the article? Hillary has not claimed that Barack Obama is responsible for her statement-which was totally taken out of context. What she and her campaign are saying, if you're bright enough to understand it, is that the Barack Obama campaign is largely responsible for how her statement was manipulated by the press. Barack claims to understand and take Hillary at her word, but has his camp mass emailing outrageous emails and promoting the hysteria over this un-newsworthy comment she made.

Get a Life! Learn to Read!

Clinton 08!

Posted by: Voice_of_reason | May 26, 2008 12:43 AM

....she is displaying signs of borderline personality disorder similar to Mommie Dearest.... I know psychiatrists viewing her behavior cannot publicly comment for ethical and liability reasons, but someone needs to reach out to her before she becomes a danger to others or continue to influence others who may themselves be unstable."

Since you imply that you are not a mental health professional, may we assume that your authoritative knowledge of BPD comes from being a mental health client?

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:43 AM

DON'T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!

IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn't it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children's suffering.

With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.

The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton's do very well.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party's back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."

Posted by: jacksmith | May 26, 2008 12:43 AM

"Elected to the Senate in Chicago is like being elected dogcatcher"

What a moron!

Posted by: Marc | May 26, 2008 12:44 AM

It's Obama supporters!! You don't even care enough about your candidate to know that virally promoting these horrible thoughts and statements may lead to someone getting hurt. I think all the other proposed Obama supporters on this blog are really Republicans.

Posted by: Who is putting out the Liz Trotta video? | May 26, 2008 12:44 AM

The Hillary campaign is still desperately trying to make this a race contest. I'm a white, middle aged woman who votes for the best person regardless of race or gender. That person is Obama. All my white middle aged woman friends also support Obama. We are fed up with Hillary using tactics that exploit women such as victimhood, weak emotions, out of control spending and outright lying. She is not a friend or a leader we could respect.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:44 AM

The devil is also called the accuser.
There we go: Killary is the accuser.

Posted by: JohnS | May 26, 2008 12:44 AM

Now Hillary's misspeakings are Obama's fault? She is unbelievable!!!

Posted by: Rain | May 26, 2008 12:45 AM

"Notice the only ones you see fanning that horrible story (and doing so quite visually) are Obama supporters."

Nope. All Hillary had to do, or has to do even now, is say something like "I said something stupid and I'm sorry." Then it all goes away. But she tries to blame it on the Obama campaign, the media, or whomever. She can't admit that she made a mistake. It was a small mistake, to start with. Her repeated rebuttals and non-apologies and non-explanations are what's keeping it alive.

With an opponent that dumb, how can Obama lose?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:45 AM

"Hillary supporters threatening Obama supports by not voting for Obama in the general will only make you the blame for four more years of Bush.

(crap snipped)

Don't for a moment think that Hillary could win in 2012 because she will be the blame along with you."

Hillary will be blamed if Obama loses the general, even if she campaigns her heart out for him.

As for the other stuff you wrote, it's all crap. McCain is a better candidate than Obama. He has been a better Senator. He is more qualified. Obama is an empty suit.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:47 AM

HughMorville:

"I am posting for the benefit of those who regard opinions expressed in these comments as some kind of bellwether."

So what you are doing is trying to use your own comments to "guide" those readers.

What you've said there is that you don't believe in logic or its results.

If you truly "didn't care" you wouldn't be trying to influence readers either way. The fact that you do and that you hold an opinion:
"Candidates are not interchangeable, and many of us think more of McCain than we do of Obama."

So just admit it, you do care... Everyone on this comment thread does. If you didn't really care you wouldn't even be reading these comments, never mind contributing.

Much like HRC, caught in a lie and won't admit it. Wow, I've seen that a lot this primary season.

Tom...

Posted by: Tom | May 26, 2008 12:48 AM

it just seems like your racist if you dont vote obama because he obviously outcampaigned hillary if you cant acknowledge that then you sound suspect.

Posted by: mcjawbones | May 26, 2008 12:48 AM

That was the best post by a hillary supporter. Thanks for benign criticism of Obama. One problem: Hillary is running for pres not Bill. BIG Difference, Different times. Like Hillary said, this is a job interview so I treat it as such. I will assess her on current relevance--- grade on running campaign (F),poor organization/managerial skills, Lying about foreign experience. Sorry, have to throw out resume/C.V. for inaccuracies however, do appreciate pro-hill post that wasn't malignant metastatic CA

Posted by: Independent | May 26, 2008 12:48 AM

"Notice the only ones you see fanning that horrible story (and doing so quite visually) are Obama supporters."

PLEASE NOTE: It's not Obama, or his campaign, that keeps posting new stuff about this. It's Hillary and her campaign.

It's a tempest in a teapot, admittedly; but Hillary and her people keep stirring up the tempest.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:48 AM

I JUST FILED AN FCC COMPLAINT AGAINST FOX NEWS NETWORK AND LIZ TROTTA. I SUGGEST EVERYONE DO THE SAME.

Posted by: Debbie | May 26, 2008 12:49 AM

Hillary's assassination comment is NOT a mistake. She has REPEATED it 4 times. She isn't dumb enough to make the same mistake repeatably. She is merely ruthless and completely unlikeable.

Posted by: john | May 26, 2008 12:49 AM

rfk, jr. had his say. but ethel and the other rfk family members who support obama have been silent, as far as i've read, about coming to hillary's defense. and to me, the only one who matters is ethel.

Posted by: frieda406 | May 26, 2008 12:51 AM

I support Barack Obama for President. We are ahead on delegates, Superdelegates, # of states, and the popular vote. He is the clear Democratic nominee. So HRC be it! Caputo, adios, finished, god by for ever. You spoil all your opportunities for a high seat for ever and ever, AMEN!!!

Posted by: Elia | May 26, 2008 12:51 AM

"The Hillary campaign is still desperately trying to make this a race contest. I'm a white, middle aged woman who votes for the best person regardless of race or gender...."

Why is it that so many Obama supporters feel compelled to announce they are "white, middle-aged women," as if their comments were some kind of convoluted personal ads?

The other thing they like to do is announce that they were once Hillary supporters, but Hillary's "evil deeds" have changed their minds. Then they go on to regurgitate nasty, misogynistic stuff that no Hillary supporter, former or present, would possibly think or say.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 12:51 AM

Looks like the Klan is active on the board tonight!

Posted by: Charles | May 26, 2008 12:51 AM

His campaign is massively blogging every site in response to a call for immediate reaction to this comment. This is a sign of the times in the new viral world -- nothing more. Obama's campaign wants you to forget here on Memorial Day weekend that Mr. Obama had to be coerced into wearing a flag lapel pin. He won't win. Then, we all lose again.

Posted by: Obama supporters mass emails | May 26, 2008 12:52 AM

Pity that Hillary has used this contest to exploit women and race bait. She has earned her rightful title of Most Polarizing Politician in American as well as Judicial Watch's 2007 Most Corrupt Politician in Washington. As a white middle aged woman I support Obama as the best person to lead our country. Hillary has shown she can't control spending, hires her cronies, blames everyone else for her failures and is a pathological liar. She makes women look bad and brings down the whole party.

Posted by: Marjorie | May 26, 2008 12:52 AM

I'm no expert but I've been wondering to myself if Hillary has some sort of personality disorder because her behavior is so over the top. She lies about things that are easily found out via simple research, she seems utterly incapable of taking any sort of responsibility for her behavior and, in fact, blames others for things she's done, sometimes to the ridiculous (like the example in this article). She's an incredibly intelligent woman which is why the lying, obvious lying, was so puzzling to me...how could she not know that she'd be found out? I think perhaps she is so caught up in her own ego that she truly thinks that others will believe her merely based on her word (why in the world would someone question her?).

So I started looking up the definition of a narcissist and I found the description startingly descriptive of Hillary's behavior.

Here's a link to the clinical definition of a narcissist personality:
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm

Here's an interesting illustration of a narcissist personality:



"Narcissist wolf says to everyone: "I'm a sheep, I'm a sheep, I'm in the sheep club. The sheep are the best. Those wolves are terrible. You have to be a special sheep to be in the high-wool club like me. If you don't believe I'm a sheep then you are calling me a liar. I was only eating meat because my boss made me do it. I was howling at the moon because you made me angry. I have always been a sheep. You are paranoid, I don't have canine teeth. You are imaginging it. I'm a sheep. I won best sheep of the year award. We have to be on the look out for SueTarget. She's a wolf in sheeps' clothing. I am the one that did all the work. SueTarget messed it all up. SueTargets's fur looks fake. I'm the biggest sheep so I should be the boss. I have every right to punish SueTarget and eat her. It will be good for her, and teach her a lesson. I'm not doing it for me, I'm doing it for the team. I have to be the enforcer here and eat bad sheeps to help keep society clean. I used to be a vegetarian but because all these lazy sheep won't do anything, I am forced into keeping order and forced into being the bad guy and have to do all the eating of sheep."


Just do some googling on "narcissist" and you'll see other examples which are eerily similar to Hillary.

Definitely a scary thought to have someone like this as our President.

Posted by: Alice | May 26, 2008 12:52 AM

I ALSO FILED AN FCC COMPLAINT AGAINST FOX NEWS NETWORK AND LIZ TROTTA. I SUGGEST EVERYONE DO THE SAME.
We are going after their license.

We will crack this down. It has no place in our democracy.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/25/15389/8576/115/522617

Posted by: JohnS Attorney At Law | May 26, 2008 12:53 AM

A point that I have never heard mentioned by commentators: Hillary says she was just describing a time line.... but what does that have to do with the assassination of Bobby Kennedy? She could have just listed the races that finished after June. Why single out 1968, and why refer specifically to the assassination? The reason is that she wants to swing a few delegates who are afraid Obama will be a target. Many blacks originally favored Clinton, specifically because they thought Obama would be killed like MLK. This "innocent" timeline is really a carefully premeditated attempt to intimidate black superdelegates. How shameful.

Posted by: Michael | May 26, 2008 12:54 AM

You are right Eia. Senator Barack Obama is the next President of the Unites States. We, the people, of this great country are looking forward to a real CHANGE in the Washington establishments. Let's work for the General Elections and make it the greatest of the whole history!!!!!

Posted by: Richard | May 26, 2008 12:54 AM

Sen. Clinton on bitter-gate : "I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small-town America. Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans,"

Sen. Obama on assassination-gate : "I have learned that when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here. Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it and I will take her at her word on that."

Posted by: Metys | May 26, 2008 12:54 AM

In all honesty, what is frightening is not that she's unraveling right in front of our eyes but the degree to which her supporters blind their eyes to her irrational psychotic behavior. Her supporters admire her, and well they shoud, but they have no sense at all that she is displaying signs of borderline personality disorder similar to Mommie Dearest. She's becoming more and more desperate and so are her loyal followers who are trying to protect her. There seems to be a disconnect in acknowledging her abnormal behavior. I know psychiatrists viewing her behavior cannot publicly comment for ethical and liability reasons, but someone needs to reach out to her before she becomes a danger to others or continue to influence others who may themselves be unstable.

Posted by: pilgrim7 | May 26, 2008 12:55 AM

This is silly; there aren't any flames to fan. I'm an Obama supporter but in her worst moments Clinton isn't dumb enough to suggest that someone might off Obama so she needs to be in the race at that point. She's the runner-up, so if something awful did happen she'd be the candidate, she doesn't have to insinuate anything.

Have no doubt, she meant it exactly as she claims to have meant it, and Obama let her off because it was the right thing to do and because he has no reason to attack Clinton at this point. He gains far more by taking the high road.

Give it a rest.

Posted by: BobJ | May 26, 2008 12:55 AM

"It's Obama supporters!! You don't even care enough about your candidate to know that virally promoting these horrible thoughts and statements may lead to someone getting hurt. I think all the other proposed Obama supporters on this blog are really Republicans.

Posted by: Who is putting out the Liz Trotta video? | May 26, 2008 12:44 AM"

It would be REALLY cynical if it were Hillary supporters posting that piece of crap. Of course it's Obama supporters, stupid! But it was Hillary who raised the whole issue in the first place, wasn't it?

How dumb ARE you people? Hillary keeps protesting her innocence, when the whole video is there on YouTube to see, in context. She gets dumb comments from Fox News that make it worse.


And you yobbos keep trying to blame it all on Obama?

How stupid do you think the American people are?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 12:56 AM

"So what you are doing is trying to use your own comments to "guide" those readers."

That's the general idea. Why do *you* post comments?

"What you've said there is that you don't believe in logic or its results."

That's not what I said. I don't consider the twaddle you wrote to be "logic."

"If you truly "didn't care" you wouldn't be trying to influence readers either way."

I care about the election. What I don't care about are the pro-Obama arguments you made to dissuade Hillary supporters from casting their votes for McCain.

"Much like HRC, caught in a lie and won't admit it. Wow, I've seen that a lot this primary season."

The definition of "lying" is not "disagreeing with Tom". You have misinterpreted what I said, and instead of accepting the clarification, you are now calling me a liar. I think you need to apologize.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:56 AM

NOW is the time for all good Superdelegates to come to the aid of their party.

Posted by: connect the dots | May 26, 2008 12:58 AM

Hillary is a disgusting individual. And her supporters are worse. They are unaffected by logic and have no ability to convince anyone other than "white" w. virginia voters that admit, at a 20% ratio, that they are racist and uneducated. WTH! Is this the sort of human being we allow to represent us? Give me a break. Never, ever will I allow my vote to go to such an unworthy individual. ever, period!

Posted by: steve | May 26, 2008 12:58 AM

If Hillary is not the nominee now I'm also
writting her name in like many other women will be doing and must do in order not to have Obama in.These people that are against Hillary are discusting.They turned it around what she said about Robert Kennedy.She's innocent and she was only stressing a time line about him still being a candidate in June.Anybody that would vote for Obama is cultish and following empty words,when they should be voting for Hillary who would make a great President and get some work done.

Posted by: janis | May 26, 2008 12:58 AM


"And you yobbos keep trying to blame it all on Obama?

How stupid do you think the American people are? "

If you're an example, then many Americans are affected, self-righteous gits.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:58 AM

That is so dumb when they said about RFK Jr. saying that he wasn't offended. it's just obvious he would say that, He endorsed Clinton and doesn't want Obama to win. What else would he say? Beside RFK Jr is a jerk, hope I'm not the only one that thinks so. But he is!!!! He thinks he knows it all. I think that's why nobody really pays attention to him.

Posted by: Debbie | May 26, 2008 12:59 AM

Obama is a no good Muslim. White people need to unite and vote against this enemy of America.

Posted by: Kevin | May 26, 2008 1:00 AM

Obama should drop out because most people want Hillary and they should.

Posted by: Janis | May 26, 2008 1:01 AM

America has dodged a bullet by not electing Clinton. She's a mess.
It's really sad. I expect she will also lose her senate seat next time around. Folks in upstate NY hate her and she hasn't come through for them by any measure.

Posted by: rcpmac | May 26, 2008 1:02 AM

Kevin
you are the enemy of America.
Join Killary to kill people.

Posted by: JohnS | May 26, 2008 1:02 AM

"Why is it that so many Obama supporters feel compelled to announce they are "white, middle-aged women," as if their comments were some kind of convoluted personal ads?"

Because that's Hillary's demographic, according to the Press, and they have to apologize for people thinking they are stupid enough to vote for Hillary.

Like you.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:02 AM

Wow! This blog is the most amazing collection of ignorant, hateful, racist, spew I have ever seen. I am ashamed for my country.

The remaining delegate count is 49 to 246 and people still think the race is close! Those of you who think this race is close, please, avoid betting money at the track, because you have no idea what is going on, and you will lose all your money.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 1:02 AM

Somebody wrote here,

"obama is a passive aggressive twit.

thinkig people know this."

Thinking people know how to spell "thinking."

Posted by: yarnm | May 26, 2008 1:02 AM

"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context,"

Her words were manufacutured by the Obama campaign?

"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family, was in any way offensive."

You 'regret' showing your hand?

"Asked if Clinton has personally called Obama to apologize for the reference, McAuliffe said she has not, "nor should she.""

The country is still waiting on an apology for the Iraq vote. Good luck getting this one.

"McAuliffe noted that Robert F. Kennedy's son -- who endorsed Clinton last November -- has said that Clinton's reference to his father's death did not cross the line."

Duh, did you expect? She called him and told him to make a statement. It's call damage control.

"I think it was unfortunate to attack Senator Clinton's remarks without knowing fully what she had said."

BamBam supporters don't need HRC to explain anything to them, they are all college 'educated', remember? no pun intended 'Hill' supporters

"One prominent Clinton supporter acknowledged that virtually all hope for her winning the nomination is gone now."

Can this 'One prominent Clinton supporter' tell HRC, and not the WaPo.

"Obama clearly has the momentum. I am a proud Hillary delegate. But I predict the race will be over soon," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). "The loser will concede graciously."

Do she know something we don't know? "graciously"?
And then Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) woke up, it was only a dream.

Posted by: knowledge_unchallenged | May 26, 2008 1:03 AM

"Beside RFK Jr is a jerk, hope I'm not the only one that thinks so. But he is!!!! He thinks he knows it all. I think that's why nobody really pays attention to him"

People pay attention to him in New York. Among other things, he has been a leader in environmental affairs, and the movement to clean up the Hudson River has been largely his responsibility.

It's stupid to dismiss him just because he's not another pro-Obama puppet like you want him to be.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 1:03 AM

Hillary may be delusional, but there is one platform she would love to spew here discontent from, and that is at the Nomination Convention in Denver. What a grand hurrah it would be for the Hillary Spoiler to Launch her candidacy from, for the 2012 presidential election!. And what an international audience of hundreds of millions of TV viewers she would have access to in order to negate Obama's leadership qualities.

Hillary speaking at the Democratic Nominating Convention at Denver, given he past damaging strategy for Obama's ledership, could be the Coup de Grace for the Democratic Party and for Obama's chance to win the GE in November.

Hillary must be kept away from the mic at the Denver Convention. She is too venomous with her off hand racist remarks and subtle suggestions for assassination of her opponent.

And Bill Clinton is a master of mischievous behavior. The Presidency for the Clintons is like owning the Kimberly Diamond and then some.

Posted by: JOE LANZA | May 26, 2008 1:04 AM

HughMorville:

I think you need to wake up and realize that you have now said "I don't care" and "I care". if as you say:
"What I don't care about are the pro-Obama arguments you made to dissuade Hillary supporters from casting their votes for McCain." Then you never would've commented about it. Feeling negatively about something means you care just as much as feeling positively.

No apology to you. Finish enough education to understand my argument and the definition of "logic" (hint: deduction through facts)and then we can debate. Until then I (or we for those others with education here) will simply understand that you are part of the "low education" group of Clinton supporters and make allowances. Regardless I won't respond to you again since you can't be troubled to look up the definition of a word before telling me I am using it incorrectly. I'd love to have a battle of wits with you, but I don't generally like to fight unarmed opponents.

Tom...

P.S. - I post comments because I 'care' enough to support my candidate. You do it to troll, I assume? since you say you don't care?

Posted by: Tom | May 26, 2008 1:04 AM

looks like Killary just woke up the killer instinct in some of you.

Good that CHANGE is coming to America.

A Land of Laws
A Land of opportunity
A Land of Justice

Posted by: JohnS | May 26, 2008 1:05 AM

I am beginning to wonder if the Clinton Supporters even bother to read the articles before they comment on blogs.

Then again, it wouldn't matter because they'd still find a way to excuse her bad behavior and blame it on Obama.

Posted by: Tina | May 26, 2008 1:05 AM

"Thinking people know how to spell "thinking." "

"Thinking people" don't make a big fuss over typos. Only smug jerks who have nothing else to say do that.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 1:05 AM

"A point that I have never heard mentioned by commentators: Hillary says she was just describing a time line.... but what does that have to do with the assassination of Bobby Kennedy? She could have just listed the races that finished after June. Why single out 1968, and why refer specifically to the assassination?"

Right. And the campaign in '68 continued well after the assassination of RFK. Why didn't she give the date it ended, instead of the date of the assassination? Just wondering....

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:05 AM

If Obama chooses Hillary as his running mate. I will NOT support him. She is sick person. I'd rather see McCain win. And I'm an African American independent.

Posted by: savortoday | May 26, 2008 1:06 AM

Found a really interesting article about a study done in 2000 on Hillary's personality. It was done by a Professor at Saint John's University, Minn, and one of her students. This study was published in the September 2000 journal of the Psychohistory Forum. Very interesting stuff (and not full of hyperbole):

http://www.csbsju.edu/USPP/Clinton-HR/Character.html

Posted by: Alice | May 26, 2008 1:06 AM

Killary is an enemy of this nation.

Posted by: JohnS | May 26, 2008 1:06 AM

TO DO LIST 2012

End the electoral college.

End the use of "Super" Delegates.

Give all candidates equal air time in debate and town hall settings.

Uniform voting machines and rules in each state.

If DEMS blow 08, end the DNC and get a new idea.

Posted by: Amy | May 26, 2008 1:06 AM

Someone suggested that the "proposed Obama supporters" posting here are really Republicans.

Good call, at least in my case.

I can't believe you people are ripping at each others' throats over two candidates who have such similar opinions. I'm an Obama supporter, but if Clinton were ahead that wouldn't be so bad; she'd still be a better president than McCain. If a Republican can figure that out, can't you supposed Democrats see what you are doing to your party?

As for Clinton supporters trying to keep Obama out of office, all I can say is: engage your brains. The next president will likely get at least one Supreme Court nominee and McCain has already said he'd nominate people like Roberts and Alito. Let him do that and you can kiss Roe vs. Wade goodbye.

Are you supposedly liberal Clinton supporters really that stupid?

THINK, for God's sake!

Posted by: BobJ | May 26, 2008 1:07 AM

For those die hard Hillary supporters: to support a woman is one thing, to support one who lies repeatedly, is so nakedly ambitiouse that she'll steal an election to make her self president, embelishes the numbers to carry out the charade that she's even in the running, well, go on down with the boat then. She wants to count votes she could have cared less about when she agreed to the rules. Oops, I forgot, rules don't pertain to the Clintons. Bill says she'd make the better candidate, never mind the rules. Now, if we could just find a way to do away with the whole election process and the rules and by laws, tell the millions who've voted it doesn't count, then and only then can Hillary get her shot. Sorry, it's called a reality check.

Posted by: jaslyn | May 26, 2008 1:07 AM

Everyone knows why she's staying in the race. Why did she not give one of those reasonable explanations?

Her statement was not taken out of context. I heard the question and her answer. Her answer was convoluted and out of context to the question. Why did she incur the association of assassination?

Robert Kennedy JR supports Hillary and wants this statement to be excused asking us not to get outraged. I'm not outraged, but the statements were outrageous.

Here's an interesting and contraversial article on women becoming president:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/05/25/do2505.xml

No one hates Hillary, it's her tactics and campaign that are dispicable.

Posted by: ToySoldier | May 26, 2008 1:07 AM

All of these Hillary supporters who are threatening to vote for McCain are proof positive that Hillary is bad for the country. She's whipped up all these women into a frenzy of hatred for Obama, and strengthened John McCain. She's a poor Democrat and a poor leader, and I hope that President Obama gives her no role whatsoever in his administration.

Posted by: buddhistMonkey | May 26, 2008 1:08 AM

Killary is mentally ill.

Only people who are not mentally ill will recognize that and move on.

Posted by: JohnS | May 26, 2008 1:08 AM

I find it fascinating that there are bimbos out there that can't see through this story. It was a ghoulish comment by Hillary who is a master at slogans, and mis-speaks. SHE INTENDED EVERY WORD. Obama is not to blame. She has been attacking Obama from day one, whining,crying,and complaining about sexism. What a way to win the presidential nomination. I pity her.

Posted by: mission impossible | May 26, 2008 1:08 AM

This is called politics:

We know that Obama and Hillary's campaign are both doing what it takes to win, so they attack each other behind closed doors. The difference between what Barack and Hillary is doing is when Barack gets the mic, he gives Hillary praise and says let's move on; Hillary on the other hand, when Barack misspeaks, she sinks him. She continues to say he's an elitist, I would've left the church, I wouldn't have friends like Ayers, etc....So she should stop crying...If Barack said this assassination blunder, she would be running around screaming, "We don't know everything about him, see!!"

I used to be a big Hillary fan until I've seen her do things for herself and pretend she's helping someone. When she attack Obama at the debates, she claims she's getting him ready for what the Republicans will do to him in the GE, now she's arguing for Michigan and Florida and comparing them to slavery and oppression, and I'm continuing the fight for women!!! If you were really for women, you would see that everyday you stay in, you're helping the republicans, and everyone knows, Mc Cain can careless about women.

For everyone who says they will vote for Mc Cain in the general election, if Hillary doesn't get elected; go for it. You're about as useful as a bull with breast...worthless. I'll be the first person to tell you, you're BITTER. The democrats will never be in office again. The Obama supporters will vote Republican in 2012, and the blacks and college students will not vote for the next ten years. So you can lead this race if you want, but ultimately the nation will suffer. Our kids will be at war when election rolls back around in 2012, people will still be losing their homes, gas will be 8 dollars a gallon, and Hillary will still be worth 100 million, laughing at your dumb@$$es for screwing up the election in her honor.

The bottom line is this: This is politics, they each played the game...People have to stop becoming so emotionally attached to the candidates and vote for the issues that suit them. Barack and Hillary both have decent plans for the economy, war, and healthcare. The people need to overlook the politics of taking each other out, and vote for the issues. If Mc Cain wins, he will win again in 2012...Cause if he can win in this climate, it only looks better in four years.

Obama for president

Posted by: whatever | May 26, 2008 1:08 AM

There in a nutshell is exactly how and why Sen. Clinton lost the support of this 60 yr, old white, staunch feminist and I am not the only one.
Hillary Clinton never takes responsibility for anything she does, and constantly plays the victim. She mismanaged her campaign, its finances and had no strategy after Feb. 5th.but it is someone else's fault, she is losing! She says and does highly questionable things but it is some one else's fault not hers!
As a woman and dedicated Democrat I find it embarrassing to watch these kind of blatant ploys and vindictive blame games. I just do not understand intelligent women sitting through this sham and National embarrassment while she plays the gender card to cover her own failings.
Hillary, is not a novice, she knows as I know, and anyone else who has ever been involved in a campaign knows, that any reference to assassination for any reason, is a taboo subject in campaigning.
It simply is not done and for good reason!
Burton from the Obama campaign spoke the obvious, it was 'unfortunate' and it "has no place in a campaign". PERIOD!
This is not the first time that this taboo issue has raised its head in the Clinton campaign with specific reference to Sen. Obama that time, but she quickly disowned the comment the last time. You would have thought she would have remembered it because it seriously offended Sen. Kennedy.
So what happened this time? She could disown someone else's remarks but not her own? Sen. Kennedy was on her mind so she....raises it again?
Wasn't it enough for Sen. Obama to say I take her word for it and to come to her defense? She could have graciously accepted that and moved on because that essentially put a damper on it.
But she had second thoughts, and decided that she could make some political hay out of it, by playing the victim once more!
This time I think she has tried people's patience to the end and her decision to blame Sen. Obama will be the final straw.
Ironically, like Sen.Obama, I gave her the benefit of the doubt but blaming him is the last straw for me!
For someone who was once a supporter and admirer, I don't have enough words to express my contempt for her anymore.

Posted by: s_charles | May 26, 2008 1:09 AM

From "Dick Morris" on www.dickmorris.com

"Everybody who has thought seriously about the Obama candidacy, including me and probably including the Senator himself, have reflected on the horrible possibility that he would be assassinated. One cannot think about Obama, the Kennedy-esque candidate without worrying about his safety. But we all observe the discipline of not raising the issue in public. We all worry that to do so would be to encourage some maniac to take a shot. Now Hillary has violated this unstated but heretofore universal taboo and brought up the possibility. That is not to say that she is hoping for a murder. But it is to say that the possibility is uppermost in her mind and a significant part of her rationale for staying in the race. And, by raising it, she has made it more possible."

On the historic front: GEOFF EARLE, BRADEN KEIL and ANGELA MONTEFINISE wrote in this article (http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm?CMP=EMC-email_edition&DATE=05252008):

"That line, which she later said was meant to convey the fact that nomination battles can extend late into the primary season, also sparked outrage for touching upon Obama's personal safety.

It was also just plain inaccurate, say historians, noting that Clinton's drawn-out battle with Obama in a seemingly endless primary season is nothing like the 1968 and 1992 Democratic campaigns.

Bobby Kennedy was not in the midst of a long-fought primary battle when he was assassinated. He entered the race on March 16, 1968, less than three months before the June 5 shooting.

As for Bill Clinton, despite his wife's perceptions, he'd won the nomination long before mid-June 1992. The race was essentially over by March 20, when Paul Tsongas dropped out and Clinton became the front-runner with a 7-to-1 delegate lead over Jerry Brown."

So on both counts HRC is wrong. She knew quite well what she was trying to do by playing the assassination card and then citing a wrong history to support her position.

Posted by: onekanobi11 | May 26, 2008 1:09 AM

"The definition of "lying" is not "disagreeing with Tom". You have misinterpreted what I said, and instead of accepting the clarification, you are now calling me a liar. I think you need to apologize.

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 12:56 AM "

Aw, come on, Hugh! He didn't suggest that somebody should assassinate you! If Hillary doesn't have to apologize, neither does he!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:09 AM

These Obamaians should come to their senses
and flee him.Also I really respect Robert
Kennedy Jr.He was not offended by Hillarys
talk of time lines in June when Robert was still a candidate.No one should have taken offense at her words and how rude of the ones that did.Think about it,they are just being mean to turn things around.I'm staying in Hillarys nice camp and never going to Obama's mean camp.

Posted by: Janis | May 26, 2008 1:09 AM

Keep being the gentleman you are. People like you because you strike them as genuine. Clinton is the opposite: a totally political animal with no skill at pretending otherwise. Her latest comments regarding Bobby Kennedy should never have come out of her mouth. It will be interesting to see what other spontaneous admissions spew forth from her mouth given the stress she is under. You are more than a match for both her and McCain. Many leaders were born under marginal circumstances on the geographic outskirts of their countries.
Being the outsider gives one a better understanding of the larger culture. I'm impressed how you and your campaign is handling the various ups and downs of this contest. Keep at it. Stay the gentleman. I would also like to say that it is very refreshing to hear plain english rather than slogans and nonsense. That's a strong point of your campaign; plain speaking, logical thinking, not patronizing.

Posted by: jean claude | May 26, 2008 1:10 AM

janis wrote; "If Hillary is not the nominee now I'm also
writting her name in like many other women will be doing and must do in order not to have Obama in"

Go ahead and get McCain elected. You will ensure 3 more conservative supremes and Roe V Wade will be overturned within a year. Healthcare the war and the economy will stay the same... but you will have your vengeance. Hasn't it occurred to you that this election was Hillary's to lose and she lost it in a grand feat of mismanagement. If that doesn't indicate executive ineptitude then I don't know what does.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 1:10 AM

Of all the things that the HRC campaign has done to raise doubts and concerns about their opponent, this is the most insidious.

First of all her explanation is wrong. Bill had declared victory well before June, and when RFK was in Calif. it was the beginning of his primary.

But not candidate has done more to prove that she would be a HORRID running mate, than HRC.

Posted by: george Fulton | May 26, 2008 1:11 AM

HughMorville:

"I think you need to wake up and realize that you have now said "I don't care" and "I care"."

What I said was that I don't care about the various arguments you made against voting for McCain. That's because -- among other things -- you are not very persuasive.

"Feeling negatively about something means you care just as much as feeling positively."

What's that supposed to mean? You sound like my crazy brother.

"No apology to you."

I'm not surprised.

"Finish enough education to understand my argument and the definition of "logic" (hint: deduction through facts)and then we can debate."

Have you any idea at all what you are talking about? You can hardly put two words together, and *you* are coming at *me* with talk about finishing my education. ROTFLMFAO!

"Until then I (or we for those others with education here)"

Oh, brother!!!

Posted by: HughMorville | May 26, 2008 1:12 AM

I have voted Democrat in every presidential election that I have been old enough to vote in (1996, 2000, & 2004). However, I know that it will be better to have a Republican for four years than a weak Democrat. Why? A weak Democrat, like all incumbant presidents, will be the Party's nominee for the next election and this will inevitably lead to eight or more years of Repulican leadership. For example, President Carter and Clinton were separated by 12 years of Republicans in the White House. However, if a Republican is lucky enough to get elected again in this current climate, it will be the last time in a long time. I much as I hate to say this, I believe it would be better to sit through four more years of Republican leadership than to have a weak Democrat (who didn't get much accomplished) and turn the ball right back over to the Republicans. We need a strong Democrat, someone who will not just carry the Party banner but who will get the job done in Washington. I am not racist if I vote for McCain over Obama in the fall, I just don't believe that Obama is ready and I don't want to hurt the Party by voting for him. Sometimes you have to take one for the team. Obama would have been better off waiting until later on down the road to run.

Posted by: Tom08 | May 26, 2008 1:12 AM

Kevin, you're just a racist brainless twit, and Janice, you moron, if she was supposed to win, she'd have more votes. Sheeeeesh.

Posted by: jaslyn | May 26, 2008 1:13 AM

Let the Clinton camp blame all they want. Their inept and totally incompetent team has lost the nomination. We should now stand guard that they do not try and worm themselves into a joint nightmare ticket.

These guys and Hilary at the helm are a scary bunch - if they could bankrupt one of the most well oiled and well funded campaigns, and still end up losing, what damage could they potentially wreck on the USA, or the world at large?

Posted by: Harbinger of Change | May 26, 2008 1:13 AM

A former President, a few months ago, observed that politics is "a contact sport," and if you can't take the contact you should get out.

That was Bill Clinton. Now it's his wife who's blubbering about the flap about a comment she made.

Bill should have a talk with Hillary.

If they're still speaking.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:14 AM

A Fact for Die-Hard Hillary Fans:

Here's what she pretends in her OpEd that she said:
"I pointed out, as I have before, that both my husband's primary campaign, and Sen. Robert Kennedy's, had continued into June."

But what she REALLY SAID was::
"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. "

These two reasons, in answer to the question, "Why are you running?"

If there was nothing wrong with what she REALLY said, then why change it so dramatically in the retelling? The word people are objecting to (which she's used or implied 3xs before--as has McAuliffe) is "assassinated". Who talks like that?

I think we've seen inside Hillary's campaign--not wishful thinking, but cold-blooded calculations of ALL the scenarios that could possibly lead the Clintons back to the White House. This look at her ambition is.....chilling.
*************
Oh, and point of fact: She does NOT have the most popular votes and won't unless she disenfranchises all MI voters who wanted Obama--AND the voters in 4 caucus states.

Posted by: Janet R. | May 26, 2008 1:14 AM

She's waiting to see if he gets the axe?

Posted by: ezdidit | May 26, 2008 1:15 AM

Part of the problem of why people have such wide interpretations and beliefs about the same events is that the majority of people never see/hear the actual event, or even the initial news coverage OF the event, but get 3rd-hand info from their favorite biased news source about the supposed "spin" that the original coverage did on the initial event.

At that point, it's a game of "telephone", except that everybody strongly believes they know the truth without ever seeing the real facts.

What's weird about the Internet is that it's easier than ever to learn the truth, but many people have desire to do so. Truth gets in the way of comfortable illusions. And here we are.

Posted by: 3rd generation news | May 26, 2008 1:15 AM

The reason Hill has got away with all her crap is because she is a woman, ( No excuse )Obama was raised to respect women, he will take McCain down, he should of taken Hill down , but he is not that kind of a man. Trust me he will shatter old man McCain.

Posted by: Jules | May 26, 2008 1:18 AM

Does Hillary know her husband failed to catch Osama? What advice did she provide as her self-proclaimed experience-ego claims?

Obama is a breath of fresh air... We need a break from the old dogs. I think a 4-year break is better than nothing. In addition, Clinton boasts she is for the middle class? Why is she out of tune with our living conditions? Will she write a recommendation letter to my boss requesting an adjustment to my salary to reflect the high rise of food prices, rent, gas etc. At least Obama, will tell me what I want to hear. Being middle class in America is a personal issue, and Clinton should not remind us how we failed to get the huge piece of the cake enjoyed by her. Why is Clinton for the middle class only, what about the low-class affected by natural disasters? Who will stand for them? Will Clinton also hear the plight of the low class also?

Posted by: Womanfirst | May 26, 2008 1:18 AM

Jessica, You said:
"Its a smear campaign backfiring on him. white people don't want him."

No honey, I'm white and I do want him and so do millions of other "white" hard working Americans. Are you really stupid enough to think that a guy with more delegates, popular vote, supers, is ONLY get the African American vote. Unfortunately there just aren't that many AA's in this country.

And news flash. Those same "white" hard-working Americans don't want a person who fans the flames of racism in the White House.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 1:18 AM

What does it say when all the educated people want one thing and the uneducated want another? Don't we all want to be and want are children to be educated? If I were uneducated I would surely listen to those people more educated than I, in making an important decision.

With that said: All uneducated people please put the TV and CPU boxes down and go play outside. We qualified adults are trying to elect the president of the whole United States. Thats our country. Mr. Obama will break down the details to you later. Run along now.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:19 AM

So we need not wonder anymore why so many people really detest this woman! The Bible says "Let he/she that stands beware lest he/she falls" We say out there in human land that "Pride goes before a fall" She started out as the presumptive queen of the party, took everything for granted, and has deservedly lost everything including her "dignity" if she had any to start with.

God cannot be mocked for He is aware of our innermost designs. If people lose in a contest, that is not a new thing as long as all sides abide by the rules. Being sore losers is not new either. We will keep praying for Obama and his family, for God's shield over us is love.

For those displaying so much hatred on this forum, it only takes a little bit of contempt for the existence of another to feel hatred. So much hatred, for another human being that you could openly wish for his physical elimination.

We decree according to God's word that "No weapon fashioned against him and members of his family shall prosper." For the word of God says, "Surely they shall gather but not by me says the Lord. Whosoever shall gather together for our sake shall fall" Jesus is Lord.

All he wants to do is offer himself to serve his country. Is ignorance so endemic in America that people find even the simplest issues so complicated? Are we being disingenuous with the facts? Have Americans been so far removed from their supposed humanity that they could sanction such a vile desire on another person even if he is not worthier than a chicken?

Or is America only the land of opportunity for a certain group? I was a very fervent supporter of Hillary from back in the impeachment days. I even bought one of his books -"Living History" - in which she detailed her experience as first Lady and up to her new place in the Senate.

I cannot in good conscience continue to give my support to her in view of the emerging character outline I can now 'see!' It is such a pity indeed.

Posted by: Egbinrin_ote | May 26, 2008 1:19 AM

Tina Said :
"I am beginning to wonder if the Clinton Supporters even bother to read the articles before they comment on blogs."

@Tina :
Maybe 'SOME' can't ... no pun intended.

Posted by: knowledge_unchallenged | May 26, 2008 1:19 AM

Hillary, for your own self respect and peace, go out with a little dignity and grace.

Posted by: skyreader7 | May 26, 2008 1:20 AM

Question for clinton supporters: clinton has run a very poor primary campaign, has burned thru hundreds of millions of dollars and is now broke. if not for her own money that she has put into the campaign, she would have had to shut down by now. obama on the other hand has run a very successful campaign both tactically and strategically and has plenty of money which indicates strong support. both clinton and mccain have run into both management and financial problems in their campaigns, obama has had neither problem. So the question is this, how can clinton claim that she would be the better candidate to beat mccain? the claim seems to defy logic and is really desperation and dilusion. clinton, based on her poorly run campaign is not qualified to be president.

Posted by: gary from chicago | May 26, 2008 1:20 AM

Take a deep breath.....................

Let's all not fall on Hillary.

Even the experts state that either she is a murderer or she is mentally ill.

Either one is to be considered very seriously.

A murderer shall go to jail.

A mentally ill person shall be treated.

GOD Bless you all.

Posted by: OBAMA4PRESIDENT | May 26, 2008 1:20 AM

"

These Obamaians should come to their senses
and flee him.Also I really respect Robert
Kennedy Jr.He was not offended by Hillarys
talk of time lines in June when Robert was still a candidate.No one should have taken offense at her words and how rude of the ones that did.Think about it,they are just being mean to turn things around.I'm staying in Hillarys nice camp and never going to Obama's mean camp.

Posted by: Janis | May 26, 2008 1:09 AM "

How kind of RFK Jr. to accept Hillary's apology! The problem is, she wasn't threatening his father, who was assassinated 40 years ago. She was bringing up his father's assassination as a threat. It wasn't the Kennedy's Hillary needed to apologize to! But that's okay, since she didn't apologize to them, either!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:20 AM

I agree with the Obama supporters that the race is over. Give it to him. But how are you going to hold people hostage who don't believe in his candidacy? It's not true that any Democrat will do. Most of America doesn't sit around and scream "God damn America" in church. Most of us don't have to be forced to show our national pride. Not many people who are interviewing for the job of First Lady would say "I'm proud of my country for the first time." Maybe that's the real crux of this. Maybe Axelrode was concerned that on Memorial Day weekend, Obama's lack of patriotism would be remembered. Exacerbating this statement -- even when it baits some truly scary people on these posts -- is wrong, and for sure, it's not Presidential.

Posted by: The race is over! | May 26, 2008 1:21 AM

For all of you "so called" Democrats who will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, you are not true Democrats. Just stop and think about the Supreme Court, a Woman's right to choose and another four years of the mess we have now. And all because you want to be so petulant? You'll get what you deserve. And by the way, Obama has a far better chance of being elected than Hillary.

Posted by: reasonable | May 26, 2008 1:22 AM

This woman has some nerves to have the audacity to try to blame someone else for words that came out her mouth. The fact that she would even mention JFK tragedy during a week when his brother was at one of the lowest points in his life shows she her dark dark soul that lacks sympathy and real compassion (not camera compassion - that's natural born lying for her)

SHAME ON YOU HILLARY!!! IT'S TIME YOU STOP CAMPAIGNING SAYING ONE THING THEN HOPIN SOMEONE GETS ASSASINATED THE NEXT MINUTE
SIT DOWN WAGGIN FINGER BILL BEFORE YOU GET SPRUNG ON!!!

Posted by: Jason Shankerman | May 26, 2008 1:22 AM

To see why the Democrats are so good at losing elections that they should win by landslides, one need only to read these posts.

You folks are supposed to be on the same team, remember?

If there is really this much hatred among the Democrats, get ready to have your heads handed to you. The GOP slime machine is ready and willing to swiftboat whomever the Dems nominate, and we saw what happened in 2000 and 2004. Do you really want more of the last eight years? I'm a Republican and I sure as hell don't want more of the same!

The Dems better be united behind their candidate because by November the GOP will have the masses worked into a froth.

Where the hell are your brains, anyway? Can't you see where this is headed? No wonder Rove could eat you alive.

Posted by: BobJ | May 26, 2008 1:22 AM

"Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!."

As long as she's not SHOOTING!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:23 AM

When will you people learn that a liberal can not win a national election. MONDALE-DUKAKIS-KERRY In November you can add OBAMA to that list.

Posted by: WENDELL | May 26, 2008 1:25 AM

"Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!."

"Stunned" may be more appropriate. Only explanation for her weird and erratic behavior of late.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:26 AM

Can I ask what the point is in winning the most delegates if you're just going to turn around a race because of electability.

If that's the merit, then say so. If its popular vote, then say so. If its delegates, then that should be it....until you change the rules in time for the 2012 election.

Hillary worries about the nomination being stole from Gore, yet that's exactly what she wants to do.

By the time they bring up Bill Clinton repealing the Glass-Steagall Act (the ROOT CAUSE of the Foreclosure Crisis) the lawsuit in Nov. with the FEC lawsuit against Bill, the Pardons with Marc Rich, her support of cluster bombs, her hiring of Tata Consulting in Buffalo NY to determine which jobs could be outsourced....it goes on and on....oh, she has experience alright.

She says to treat her like you are hiring her for a job...Would you hire her for General Manager of anything? Poor bookkeeping, not a team player, Accts Payable & Receivable Suck, sexism harassment case.....

Good Grief!

Be scorned ladies if you must, just know that if you are, its more about being vengeful than being upset. Nice!

Posted by: MzTerri | May 26, 2008 1:26 AM

Let's suppose that all Senator Clinton meant was that the 1968 nomination was not decided before June. Given what happened to the party that summer, 1968 hardly provides a model of the Democratic party coming together after a hard-fought primary season. Maybe Senator Clinton wishes the Democrats to have another version of the 1968 convention?

Posted by: john | May 26, 2008 1:26 AM

Tom08, think of all the senseless horror that will be unleashed if McCain is elected and his court appointees overthrow Roe Vs. Wade.

Life is indeed too precious to be forced upon those who are not in a position to foster it.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 1:28 AM

In "As good as it gets" movie Jack Nicholson explains how he write so well about women characters - "I start with a man and then take away logic and accountability. Hillary gives a bad rep for all the women who are accountable (and logical).
The vast right-wing sexist conspiracy might be next Hillary talking point.

Posted by: Sommerday | May 26, 2008 1:29 AM

I can't believe all the hatred and venom directed at Hillary by this recent misinterpretation. I know what she meant and I believe her. So does Obama (or so he says.) He knows he needs her supporters to win in November if her gets the nomination. I remember hearing her speak about Martin Luther King's death in April and she expressed real sadness about that event. I felt her emotions were real. Why are you Obama supporters so mean spirited when he has been trying to promote a new kind of politics that appeals to the higher good of us human beings? Doesn't this include Hillary and her supporters? How would you feel if you were continually disrepected by the press and called on to quit the closest race in Democratic primary history even as you were winning by 35-41 % points? Let's give the woman some credit. She is a fighter and has inspired me tremendously. I have invested a lot in the election and don't appreciate having my candidate dismissed in such a hateful way. Lay off my Hillary!

Posted by: Joan Dowlin | May 26, 2008 1:30 AM

This has too rank as one clear example of the media trying to create news.
The woman made a point that its not unusual for primary campaigns to run into June and later, before a clear cut winner is determined. She used two examples.
Now i read what she said and watched the clip of her saying it and no where in there is anything like her asking someone to blow Obama away.
Everyones acting, including the news media, like she was holding a press conference for the express purpose of advertising for a hitman to take poor old Obama out.
Now before you think i'm a Hillary fan, i wouldn't vote for her if she was the last person on earth. Both her and Slick Willie are both total train wrecks. I wish both would go home to Ark. and shut up.
That said, Hillary would stand a better chance of getting my vote than Mr. Zero! So i like a lot of people will probably go to the polls and hold my nose and do McCain.
We should be real proud that we've let our great country get in the condition that these three nothings are our best choices!! SAD SAD SAD

Posted by: Bill | May 26, 2008 1:30 AM

The only problem is most Americans are actually idiots and really can't understand simple concepts. Most are uneducated like "Hilrey" supporters and will merely pick the person who looks the most like themselves.
"Hilry" and "Billey" know this and they know their attacks will resonate with hill billies and red necks. They are fully aware that they are damaging the Dem party. And they dont care. I cannot believe I ever supported Bill. Really cant.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:30 AM

Spewing Venom!

Posted by: barbara miller | May 26, 2008 1:31 AM

"These Obamaians should come to their senses
and flee him.Also I really respect Robert
Kennedy Jr.He was not offended by Hillarys
talk of time lines in June when Robert was still a candidate.No one should have taken offense at her words and how rude of the ones that did.Think about it,they are just being mean to turn things around.I'm staying in Hillarys nice camp and never going to Obama's mean camp.

Posted by: Janis | May 26, 2008 1:09 AM ""

She wasn't talking about the "time lines in June when Robert was still a candidate." She was talking about him getting shot!

Lamebrain!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:32 AM

I love women. I honor women. For god's sake, I came from a woman. However, if this is how a woman like Hillary needs to act (below the dignity of most women) in order to become president, then this is very upsetting and troubling for all potential future female presidential candidates.

Posted by: mission impossible | May 26, 2008 1:32 AM

Wendell, according to pollster.com, either Clinton or Obama would beat McCain if the election were held tomorrow. McCain still has many months to show us how stupid he really is. He will make Alf Landon look like a winner.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 1:33 AM

Hellary KKKlinton is a psychotic pathological liar. She made sinister comments about a US senator, and now she wants to say what came out of her treacherous mouth is his fault.

Posted by: KKKlinton is sick | May 26, 2008 1:33 AM

Educated people one way. Uneducated people another. It seems simple to me.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:34 AM

Hey Bill, was it 'disrespect' that killed both Vince Foster and Ron Brown?? Go ahead and vent your temper on that one!!!!

Posted by: Bag-the-Billster | May 26, 2008 1:34 AM


This is ridiculous. I'm quite sympathetic to Hillary and what she's been put through but please make it all go away.. enough of the pain.

We had two good candidates who meant a lot to us women and to African Americans. Unfortunately there can only be one nominee.

We should realize that this is not about who gets to be President and not take this personally. The Presidency is not a lifetime achievement award. Our personal pride should not be hurt by our candidate losing an election.

This is NOT about the candidates and who gets to be President.

Posted by: Liz | May 26, 2008 1:35 AM

Your either on the side of logic, reason and intellect. Or on the side of mindless emotion.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:35 AM

"Code zero zero zero. Destruct. Zero."

The last command of Hillary's campaign...

Posted by: pjb | May 26, 2008 1:36 AM

"There takin our jobs" lmao. I'm done

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:37 AM

How do you expect a woman who is constantly making mis-statements to be President.

Go ask Iran how they liked her "obliterate" comments?

Posted by: Tina | May 26, 2008 1:37 AM

If Hillary thinks this isn't hurting our party's chance of winning in November, she just needs to read the divisive vitriolic posts above. If anyone who is a Democrat thinks that voting for McCain is an alternative, you need to get your head checked. He's a warmonger, and an anti-choice (read that again, ladies) ANTI-CHOICE liar. Do not vote for McCain. That said, if HRC somehow pulls this off (?) I will not vote for her or McCain. I'm moving as far away from this country as I can, and I will pray for the rest of you.

Posted by: seeingclearly | May 26, 2008 1:37 AM

Obama is a Moslim. America was founded as a Christian nation! I don't understand why so meny people are still supporting someone who doesn't believe in Jesus!

I live in Kentucky and I cried tears of joy when Hilary clobbered him here. Obama needs to get back in church (the right church) and pray God forgive him for misleading this country time and time again.

People who support Hilary like me are smart enough to see a con man when we see one. Hilary would never hang out with people with bad morals because she's a CHRISTIAN. And she WILL be president because there are millions of people out there just like me.

Posted by: Hilaryforver | May 26, 2008 1:37 AM

*****READ THIS I Spent a lot of time******

Forget the RFK, it wasn't what everyone is trying to imply it was.

Let's look at the popular vote. With FL. and MI. and all the estimates from the statea that haven't "officially" released their count.

Obama 17,596,239
Clinton 17,650,671
Diff. 54,432 Clinton's favor


NOW...
Obama was not on the Michigan Ballot and thus received zero votes. Uncommitted was on the ballot and received 238,168 votes as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton

Let's assume that the 328,309 ALL would have voted for Clinton because we all know how SMART voters are and they won't just pick Clinton because SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THERE.

...but I'd be willing to bet the 238,168 DID NOT WANT CLINTON!

Let's also figure that Clinton was only kidding when she agreed to remove her name form the ballot or it was a miss-quore, oversite.

Now..
Obama 17,596,239
Clinton 17,650,671

Plus 238,168 Obama or anti-Clinton

Clinton 17,650,671
Obama 17,834,407
Diff. 183,736 Obama's favor

Close? Yes but the truth is that some of the uncommitted would have voted for Clinton & some of the Clinted voters would have voted for Obama. So no matter what it's another Florida, Ohio and nor Michigan. People can twist the numbers and throw out numbers but the truth is they had the chance to count and broke the rules even with the 30 day warning. The only reason Clinton wants them all to count is because she suckered Obama to remove his name in true Clinton fashion.

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 1:37 AM

They've taken a truthful and honest statement by Hillary and turned it around to vilify
----Truthful and honest about what? While people who insert assassination scenarios in 2008 are taking a big leap, one has to wonder why Clinton used such a weird, loaded and ghoulish reference just to make a time line reference. Since she used it several times before it had to be deliberate. Campaigns don't do something this odd just to make a time reference. This remark had to be feeding some other narrative like her bogus Bosnian fabrication.
And to the person who thinks Obama is "divisive" have you been on vacation on Mars for the last 2 months? I supported Bill Clinton through all his problems but he and Hillary have lost all credibility with her campaign which has degenerated into sliminess, lies and an attitude that anything that helps her (incl the Mi & FL straw polls) are legit but anything that doesn't (such as most of the caucuses) are disparaged.

Posted by: Tom Layman | May 26, 2008 1:38 AM

"I can't believe all the hatred and venom directed at Hillary by this recent misinterpretation. I know what she meant and I believe her. So does Obama (or so he says.) He knows he needs her supporters to win in November if her gets the nomination. I remember hearing her speak about Martin Luther King's death in April and she expressed real sadness about that event. I felt her emotions were real. Why are you Obama supporters so mean spirited when he has been trying to promote a new kind of politics that appeals to the higher good of us human beings? Doesn't this include Hillary and her supporters?"

If Hillary would come out and say, "I said a stupid thing, and I apologize," it would be all over. She hasn't said that. She has said, "If someone misunderstood what I meant, then I'm sorry and feel bad for the Kennedys."

It ain't the Kennedys, sweetie; and it ain't Obama. It's us Americans you should be apologizing to.

Instead, she tries to blame it on Obama.

If she wants to keep it in play, I don't understand why she should, but more power to her! Why look bad when you can look REALLY bad?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 1:38 AM

Wow, now its just getting sad.

Posted by: jmedia | May 26, 2008 1:38 AM

May 25, 2008 --
Members of the Kennedy family are incensed over Hillary Rodham Clinton's invoking the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy to explain why she's staying in the race - and they think it could be the death knell of an increasingly desperate and sloppy campaign.
"That comment may be the last nail in her campaign's coffin," a Kennedy relative told The Post. "How can Hillary even use the experience argument when she repeatedly pushes the wrong buttons in her comments?"
An insider added, "I think people really felt that a line was crossed and that her campaign - and even her legitimacy as a politician - ended today."
Said a second relative, "She no longer has only her husband to blame for the ill-chosen comments coming from her camp."
While Robert Kennedy Jr. immediately came out in support of Sen. Clinton on Friday, others in the family's inner circle are fuming.
One cited "a perceived insensitivity" in her comment, made Friday before a South Dakota newspaper's editorial board, especially with the 40th anniversary of RFK's death two weeks away and Sen. Ted Kennedy battling a brain tumor.
"We were all sort of dumbfounded that she would say such a thing," the insider said.
There was also anger outside the family. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), a Hillary supporter, told Bloomberg News that she said "the dumbest thing you could have possibly said." And the Rev. Al Sharpton ripped the comment as dangerous.
The Kennedy family insider added: "I know that many Clinton supporters in New York and New Jersey are sickened by her comments and that they are more concerned with Senator Kennedy's health and well-being than they are her campaign anymore.

Posted by: rcpmac | May 26, 2008 1:39 AM

Why are the Hilary supporters so much more violent and hateful than the Obama supporters.

You talk about how you are afraid of Senator Obama, but I am more afraid of Senator Clinton.

She cannot even manage her own campaign finances and she is going to run the country. Give me a break 20 Million Dollars already in the hole

She is going to crush anyone who gets in her way, not because she is so concern about the American People but because she feels that this is owed to her.

Also, I don't want a president that is always crying about how bad she is being treated when she has everything going for her.She can throw the dirt out there but play a victim when it comes back on her.

If Senator Obama was a white man and Hillary was not running off her name than this primary election would have been over.

Posted by: Soyo | May 26, 2008 1:40 AM

"Hey Bill, was it 'disrespect' that killed both Vince Foster and Ron Brown?? Go ahead and vent your temper on that one!!!!"
Posted by: Bag-the-Billster | May 26, 2008 1:34 AM

Good lord...what the hell is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Frieda | May 26, 2008 1:40 AM

I will admit some Obama supporters need to tone down the verbiage toward Clinton, but number of Clinton supporters proclaiming they will cast their vote in Nov. for the GOP candidate as an act of revenge... despite his position on the war, health care, supreme court judges, tax cuts for the wealthy, etc. is far more disturbing.

Posted by: case | May 26, 2008 1:41 AM

I thought the country was founded by criminals? Who obliterated almost an entire race of indigenous people.

See what I mean about the "there takin our jobs" uneducated Hillary follower. This. Is. So. Much. Fun.

Its like arguing with autistic puppys

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:41 AM

Hillary -- "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." - Abraham Lincoln, attributed.

Posted by: pafaragher | May 26, 2008 1:42 AM

Let's try not to be divisive and take Sen. Clinton's remark for what it was: the successful try to make a comedy. In fact she is putting on stage the parody of an election and I find her pretty funny :-)

Posted by: Gio | May 26, 2008 1:42 AM

"User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site." - from the WP posting rules.

Really? This thread contains multiple comments threatening the life of Obama. Whether they are real, or someone's sick idea of clever snark, they should be removed immediately. Get them off.

Posted by: Greg P. Smith | May 26, 2008 1:42 AM

"Hillary can say whatever she wants, irregardless I will never vote for a political thug like Obama.
I agree with the poster about 'writing in' Hillary in November, its far better than the alternatives.
Posted by: Julie in Sterling | May 25, 2008 5:46 PM"

Julie, dictionary alert: Irregardless is not a word "sweetie". You definitely fit the Hillary Clinton voter profile.

And to the rest of you ignorant people out there posting awful and incorrect information: Remember this, you wish bad on Obama and you hate him. You hate him for no concrete reason, your limited comprehension of someone who is exercising the saame right that you have allows your racist mind to hide behind words of hate only on the computer, while you exchange a polite smile and casual conversation with your African American co-worker. Fortunately for you, MERCY is also given to the unjust. However, the grave you wish for Obama, will be the one you occupy. Be careful what you wish for.

To those of you who will be voting for McCain instead of Obama, what sense does that make? Hillary's and Barack's views on the issues are practically identical (and I am assuming that is the reason why you would vote for her if you agree with her on the issues...right?), yet you will vote for McCain who is the exact opposite of Hillary because Barack is black? How unfortunate for our children to have depend on you to make the right decision based on your racist views and an ignorant mind. Yes, unfortunate indeed.

I will continue to donate, support, and vote for Obama! Senator Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States of America!

Posted by: Mrs. B | May 26, 2008 1:42 AM

We have to lay off Ms. Clinton and especially her supporters. Like it or not Obama can't win without them.
Keep in mind this last dispute is between the Obama and Clinton campaign managers who are less restrained in their anger.
She's poured everything she is into this campaign, and she's losing. Be gentle.

Posted by: Ann | May 26, 2008 1:44 AM

Isn't it true that Robert Kennedy,Jr. has his own political aspirations....of course, he isn't "taking offense." I'm tired of politicians. How can he betray his father like this?

Posted by: wanderer | May 26, 2008 1:44 AM

I aqgree with Obama, Hillary meant no wrong.

I believe that Hillary is a wonderful person combining intellect with moral stamina. If she believes she is right she will stick with it, unlike the flip-flopping McCain.

Posted by: M Crabtree | May 26, 2008 1:44 AM

Now, Shrillary and Billary are using 'blamism' as a tool to get votes for Shrillary. Blame the other guy....oh, it wasn't my fault....I was tired.....oh, it's really sexism......no, it's elitism.....no, it's genderism.....no, it's agism.....no, it's mediaism.....no, it's pimpism against our daughter.....no, it's the vast 'right wing conspiracy'.....no, it's sniperism.....WELL, SHRILLARY AND BILLARY....it's only the fact that you both are PSYCHO and need to be admitted ASAP to the nearest mental institution.....someone, please put these people away in straight jackets.....NOW!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bag-the-Billster | May 26, 2008 1:44 AM

Hilaryforver, you are just too pathetic for words. Please stop now before you embarrass yourself further.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 1:45 AM

Maybe Hillary's campaign planned this move. She made the statement as a ploy to get Obama to react. Unfortunately for her it backfired just like everything she has done since this campaign started. What a horrible campaign! What a disgrace she is to the American people.

Posted by: Mike Z | May 26, 2008 1:46 AM

Why does every Hillary supporter sound a fox news worshiping clowns. There is no way any of you are democrats. Its unbelievable how much you idiots sound like those jokers in the republican party.

Posted by: Juju | May 26, 2008 1:46 AM

But seriously people ANYBODY BUT A MCCAIN. I make fun of "Hilry" supporters because thats why God made them. But I hope we all can agree ANYBODY BUT A REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:46 AM

Let's say for a moment, everyone posting. Can be honest with themselves and become non-partisan, without racist tendencies, and over all good folk with good intention. I realize this may be difficult for some of you . Especially those of ya'll in Kentucky and West Virginia. lol

Truthfully examine the behavior of the candidates during this campaign. Ask yourself a few questions, who has shown DECENT behavior, now really think about hat word DECENT, which candidate has been CIVIL? Who has been MEAN? CALLOUS? INAPPROPRIATE at more that a few times? Let's keep this honest, without thoughts of who we might be supporting, be honest. After answering those questions, it may be a clear to at least determine which candidate seemingly has shown either good character or bad character. Where I come from, everything begins with your character! Sure we all have our political choices but don't you think a candidates character is important. Not what the candidate was said to have done in thier past, but what we've witnessed them do or say during this campaign. Not the gossip, lies, or, stories, or hear say but what you and I both have witnessed them say during this campaign. I don't know about you however, I've seen some behavior from a candidate that is really embarrassing to speak about to my international friends who document our electoral nomination process.

Thank you for reading.

Posted by: WhatIf | May 26, 2008 1:47 AM

What has she done wrong? She's running for the Presidency for gosh sakes.

Posted by: M Crabtree | May 26, 2008 1:47 AM

Obama will never be president. He needs to go back to the middle east where he came from. He doesn't believe in Jesus! Have you people forgot 9/11??? I cant believe some of you! Moslims hate America! Don't vote for him, please!

Posted by: Hilaryforver | May 26, 2008 1:48 AM

Listen, Hillary: this time you stepped over the line. It's not Obama's fault, it's not love or concern for the Kennedys, it's not even nostalgia for the Clinton heydey in 1992. It is narcissism, pure and simple. I am an older, white, dyed-in-the-wool feminist, one who should by rights be your supporter --and I was for many years -- and I cannot by any stretch of the imagination condone what you are doing to the Party. I can't even condone what you are doing to yourself and Bill. This is pathetic. You are hurting Democrats, feminists, and progressives of all stripes with your nonsense. Please, oh please, let this election be about removing the Bush stain, the Repubican taint, the Cheney world view, and the depths to which this nation has sunk. Don't let your self-importance rule the day. Don't put yourself above the needs of the country.

Posted by: wyoming729 | May 26, 2008 1:49 AM

People, have you forgotten that this is really about November? You are so busy beating up on each other that you are ignoring the one you really have to beat to get to the White House.

Pull your heads out. It's you against the GOP, it's not supposed to be you against each other.

As a Republican, I can tell you that from this side of the aisle, Obama and Clinton really don't look at that different, but they both look a lot different from McCain.

Any Clinton OR Obama supporter that would vote for McCain instead of the other Democrat isn't thinking, or pays no attention to reality.

THINK! Roe v Wade. Health care. The War. Social Security. Tax cuts for the rich while spending like drunk sailors on rich people's priorities.

What is the matter with you people? Just put them both on the ticket and be done with it. You do NOT want McCain.

Posted by: BobJ | May 26, 2008 1:49 AM

I'VE BEEN EMAILING SUPERDELEGATES ALL WEEKEND.


I urge everyone to do the same.


Let them know that they will be challenged in their own districts if they don't get rid of Hillary (who SHOULD be challenged for her senate seat by someone actually loyal to the party) IMMEDIATELY.


Even her own staff will tell you that she is staying in - not to win, because she knows she can't UNLESS (she covered the "unless" this week) - to DESTROY Obama's chances in November so that she can run in 2012.


For crying out loud, ask her staff and THEY WILL TELL YOU THIS.


It is a well known FACT that she has worked closely with John McCain, with right wing talk radio personalities, with Fox News (Rupert Murdoch [a pal]), and with the Republican Party.


She's not even on our side.


So, PLEASE, email your superdelegates and DEMAND that she be DUMPED RIGHT NOW . . . FORCIBLY IF NECESSARY!!!

Posted by: Arlo | May 26, 2008 1:49 AM

Hillary should really think about what she spouts off about because karma is a b*tch!

I'm just sayin............................

Posted by: Julie | May 26, 2008 1:50 AM

The reaction to the RFK comment is completely overblown and unfair. But Clinton has been been pushing her luck with all of the goal-post-moving, shape-shifting and divisive tactics. Hence, she who lives by the sword...

Posted by: altlic | May 26, 2008 1:51 AM

Too bad that Vince Foster and Ron Brown can't comment on keeping the Dem nomination going after June! Of course, they are horizontal now and can't comment to you Shrillary supporters to give you the truth!! Seems like the assassination game just keeps going.....right?? ;-)

Posted by: Bag-the-Billster | May 26, 2008 1:51 AM

... and it was Harry Whittington's own fault that Cheney shot him in the face while hunting. Clinton is becoming more like Bush/Cheney every day.

Posted by: Bob | May 26, 2008 1:51 AM

To Hillaryforever...

I'm sorry this nation was NOT founded as a Christian Nation. It was founded as a Nation of Religious Freedom to include Christian (both Protestand and Catholic), Jewish, Hindu, and yes Muslim.

The Defacto motto of the us is actually
E Pluribus Unum - "From Many, One"
The Official motto of In God We Trust was legislated at the same time the "Under God" was put in the Pledge of Allegiance - 1956 - I remember having to re-learn it.

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 1:51 AM

Its "Muslim" sweetie.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:51 AM

"I didn't realize there were a lot of ignorant right wing yahoos who read the Washington Post."

I didn't realize Clinton supporters could even read.

Posted by: jules | May 26, 2008 1:52 AM

Billary needs to drink a big cup of STFU

Posted by: IloveObama | May 26, 2008 1:52 AM

Hillary is a demon-woman!!! Cut from the same cloth as "101 Dalmation's" Cruella DeVil, and that's an insult to Cruella.

Posted by: Melissa | May 26, 2008 1:52 AM


There's a great wisdom saying that says that when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

I was a staunch Edwards supporter and saddened when he dropped out of the race. I read news and blogs and listen to radio of all stripes from the moment I wake up until I go to bed. But most of all, I observe the candidates. And I've found the difference between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton is very obvious.

I used to really believe that the Clintons were both decent Democrats who were just pragmatic and realistic about political compromise. So help me God, the scales have been lifted from my eyes. If you don't believe me, look up the truth for yourself.

Hillary Clinton has demonstrated deceitful and manipulative behavior and speech again and again. Her "I'm the victim" whining, thinly veiled racist attacks--and now, suggestive remarks about assassination attempts on Mr. Obama--show just exactly what she is. Hillary Clinton is a bully.

Mrs. Clinton's true values are quite apparent, and they have nothing to do with public welfare, women's rights, or integrity or ethics. She just seems like someone obsessed with her own ambition. behavior appalling. I actually think she's gone around the bend. For that matter, so has Bill. Or maybe I just didn't pay enough other egotists, they are both incapable of recognizing or acknowleding their antisocial behavior, which is why the media must love covering them. They're a joint trainwreck.

IMHO, both the Clintons have revealed their entitled, ruthless natures during the course of her current presidential campaign and irrevocably destroyed their own reputations. It seems like they will both do or say anything to get what they want. I honestly hate Hillary like a Republican, and I'm a yellow dog Democrat. The Clintons represent everything I hate about our corrupt government-big business-special interests-political system.

I honestly didn't set out to write so much about the Clintons, but at this point I, like many Americans, have had enough of these two. I wish they'd both just take their raging egos and pack them up with Geraldine Who-knew-how-crazy-she-was-before Ferraro and go away.

Posted by: Kathy | May 26, 2008 1:53 AM

how do hrc supporters figure she can even win 2012 anyway?

Posted by: gameh0g | May 26, 2008 1:53 AM

Just a thought...

Looking at the first fourth or so of these comments, it seems like the Clinton "supporters" responding to this are at least half political proxy spam. You can pick them out by their names--Truth this, HillaryIsTheBest that. Let's call these "machines."

In that entire same fourth, I only saw two or three "machines" supporting Obama.

Clinton's "machines" are cranking themselves into high gear, it seems that Obama's "machines" aren't really doing anything, and the two candidates are drawing even in most major contests.

Seems to me we can see who's more easily electable here. Clinton, regardless of her good points, has done just as much (if not more so) to hurt her image as Obama has. Obama is on a fast track to get the nomination.

And on a side note, for every race card that Obama pulls, Clinton is just as capable of pulling a gender card, and it seems that both candidates are doing so. Can't we just call it even and look at other important things?

Posted by: var | May 26, 2008 1:53 AM

Billary needs to drink a big cup of STFU

Posted by: IloveObama | May 26, 2008 1:53 AM

And he is not a Muslim and if he was that would mean nothing. Accept to uneducated people like yourself. Learn about the world sweet heart. Read the Qur'an. No I'm not Muslim but I do read things. And its JUST like the Bible. All religions stem from basically the same teachings. If you'd gone to college and taken a religion class or ever left the country you might not sound as if you know nothing. Learn. Learn. Learn. Learn.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 1:56 AM

I was ready to accept the idea that Senator Clinton innocently made a stupid remark. Until the Clinton campaign began the backlash trying to blame the whole thing on Obama. Then I began to realize: it was a trap for the Obama campaign, and they didn't bite. So the Clintons are still trying to pull the stuff they would have, if the Obama campaign reacted in outrage. WOW!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 1:57 AM

I have a great idea. How many of you want to join me? Make a $25 Obama donation for every post from HilaryForver you see after this. It's fun! It's easy! We win either way!

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 1:58 AM

HRC, its so bad to be in desperation of anything. Pretty soon you lose the whole illusion of what you were looking for in the first place. The nomination is far beyond your reach. At 61, time to think about retirement. The oval office is NOT for you or your crooked hubby. Lead by example. Go away and leave Washington alone.

Posted by: Vulcero | May 26, 2008 1:58 AM

Shrillary reminds me of a 'third nut' biker chick who wants to swill whiskey and spit on the ground just like the big boys! Question: Just what does lie under that big XXXXLLLLLLL pantsuit anyway?? Shrillary....it's time to exit stage left or just step over that cliff that lies just ahead. Your broom has run out of fuel, so you can't just fly away! ...... ;-D !!

Posted by: Bag-the-Billster | May 26, 2008 1:59 AM

If Hillary can't run her own house, how do people expect her to run The White House?

Posted by: Obama's Baby Mama | May 26, 2008 2:02 AM

Fran Taylor. You are on. Lets go Hillaryforever.
whao whao whao.......... Isnt Obama going to have pay off her debt (does this guy have it all or what gracious, compassionate, generous, thoughtful-- man crush) so wouldnt we actually be helping her recover from her haphazard unorganized campaign? oh well I'll take Mr. Obama's example and let it go.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 2:02 AM

This is NOT the first time that Hillary blew this dog whistle...The MSM gave her a pass several times since no one stopped her she blew it again...this time she got caught. Hillary knows what she is saying and how people react to her words...If her supporters do not think she is capable of this then THEY ARE VOTING FOR HER FOR NO GOOD REASON.

Posted by: Beka | May 26, 2008 2:04 AM

Following the Clinton compaign has often, and especially after the Kennedy remark, reminded me of, years ago, reading Nietzsche's "Ecce Homo"; watching a man go insane before your eyes. Should we trade a moron for a lunatic? But, I am wasting my breath-Clinton's followers no doubt have never read Nietzsche.

Posted by: Dave Boyle | May 26, 2008 2:05 AM

Presidential candidates are forbidden by law from giving their campaign funds to any other candidate.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:05 AM

Great! Then you are on.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 2:06 AM

"

Obama will never be president. He needs to go back to the middle east where he came from. He doesn't believe in Jesus! Have you people forgot 9/11??? I cant believe some of you! Moslims hate America! Don't vote for him, please!

Posted by: Hilaryforver | May 26, 2008 1:48 AM "

WHAT A PILE OF REEKING CRAP!

Obama came from Hawaii.

He isn't a Muslim ["as far as Hillary knows"].

He's a Christian.

He believes in Jesus.

He had less to do with 9/11 than Bill Clinton did.

WHERE DO THEY GET THESE CREEPS?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 2:06 AM

To Hillaryisforever - One more thing

Oh, I forgot to mention that Obama is not a Muslim - He's a Christian just like you. Or are you one of those Christian's that don't accept anyone that looks different? There are a lot of those on the FAR RIGHT!He's probably a better Christian than your precious Hillary from what I've seen.

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 2:07 AM

Didn't Hillary throw everything she could, in her kitchen sink strategy, at Obama? She would and has done worse with his mis-statements. He's just trying to toughen her up in case she becomes the nominee.. As far as i know...

Posted by: Dan H | May 26, 2008 2:07 AM

If a UFO scooped Obama up and carried him away tomorrow, Clinton would not become the candidate after that statement. If Obama for any reason is unable to run. Hillary will be suspect number one!

She has no shame, no self control, and no grasp of reality.

Hillary also has no claim to be the candidate any longer. Obama would be a fool to allow her to be in the Whitehouse with him. He would need a food taster.

Posted by: cyberbian | May 26, 2008 2:08 AM

'Change'

Oh yeah, and 'Change'

And 'Change'

'Yes We Can... Change'

And uh 'Change.'

Oh yeah, and uh 'Change.'

Also, 'Change.'

Don't go negative, go 'Change.'

And... 'Change.'

Also, 'Change.'

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 2:08 AM

I really wish people would stop bring religious beliefs into the picture. Like "do you believe in the Easter Bunny or is Batman the one to follow" I wouldn't care if Obama worshiped "Santos the great god of the trees" he had my vote at "skinny kid with a funny name"

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 2:09 AM

Don't hurt Obama, don't go negative on him, he's very sensitive. Don't try to figure out what he stands for, he doesn't really want to get into specifics. Obama's golden aura is so wonderful, no one needs to question anything about him. He's just.. a solid bar of the purest gold the world has ever seen....

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:12 AM

Once. Just once. Just one time. Just one single time. Just one single time before her political career is over I would like to see Hillary Clinton take responsibility for something that's gone badly. Say "I was wrong." Or "I'm sorry."
But then, why should she? Nothing is EVER her fault. She has incompetents running her campaign and acting as surrogates. The press is out to get her and is constantly misrepresenting and misinterpreting things she and her husband say. And don't forget the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that's out to get her.
She makes a thoughtless, tasteless, careless, and extremely inappropriate comment and it's the fault of the press and Sen. Obama.
Her days as a respected political force are numbered. She is becoming a cartoon, a joke, a pathetic punch line.
Either she's lost her moral compass - or she never had one. Either she has lost her grip on reality - or she is suffering delusions so severe that they might be considered a mental illness. And she seems one step from leading her cult to some sort of mass political suicide.
Despite starting the campaign with every possible advantage, Senator Clinton, you have lost the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Deal with it.

Posted by: JFO | May 26, 2008 2:14 AM

Ronald Regan, why should I even listen to a word you say? you obviously don't believe in God. How do you expect me to take you serious? Oh, and Obama is a Muslim. Read a book.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 2:15 AM

That was brilliant, NYC potato head. Tell me, are YOUR useless rants worth a $25 Obama donation? Go ahead, try me!

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:15 AM

I see the paid Obama bloggers are out in full force today.

Posted by: Amy | May 26, 2008 2:15 AM

Get over it, she apologized for the comment directly to the press. Not that she needed to, since she meant nothing by it. Obama, on the other hand, tap dances around every topic known to Man.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:16 AM

$25! Do I hear $50?

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:16 AM

What does ones religious beliefs have to do with anything? Is the question I want answered. Mine are personal, as should everyones. I do believe in God. But not the one that Hagee, Wright, J. Jackson, Paterson, Sharpton or anybody else does. I find the people who tout their religion the loudest to be the most immoral. But you don't have to listen to me. I surely won't listen to you.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 2:19 AM

RFK's son is irrelevant. Clinton was implying that she was staying in the campaign because Obama might be assassinated. Obama's campaign is the entity that is, and should be, furious.

Posted by: saraz1 | May 26, 2008 2:20 AM

Only my software developer boss pays me, and not nearly enough! But I don't care any more, I am putting my money where my mouth is. I have the Obama web site open in another tab, and my credit card is in hand.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:20 AM

Obama will be the next president. If that is God's will, then Hillary can hire a sniper herself, the gun will jam first.

Posted by: Vote 4 A Better Future | May 26, 2008 2:21 AM

Fran I suggest you give your entire net worth to Obama's campaign, since once that bulls*it artist is in office it will become worthless within a couple of years

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:21 AM

$50

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:22 AM

I'm sure I'll lose any credibility I may have had by saying I'm a former Republican, now unaffiliated voter that looks past the party to vote for the person.

Just wanted to say ro Ronald Reagan "Hi"

I voted for you, good to see you're back.

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 2:22 AM

The "No comment" response from Ted Kennedy and his family speaks for itself. They clearly did not come out in Clinton's defense (unlike Obama himself!) This makes an above post on most of the Kennedy family fuming entirely credible.
Personally, I am absolutely sure (given that this is not the first time that Hillary made the comment with the A-word in it, and that the comment referencing RFK has been made at least four times while so many other similar examples are available) that this a) expressed Hillary's dearest wish and b) at least objectively but I also believe subjectively, serves as a sign for the pro-Hillary Sirhans out there.
On an additional note, as a 50-plus professional woman I feel particularly offended by Hillary camp's claim that they are staying in the race to represent us, while so many of us are ardent Obama supporters. This reverse-sexist argument insults women's intelligence: should we vote for Ann Coulter? Or Condi Rice? So why should we vote for Hillary who has been endorsed by Richard Scaiffe Mellon, who praises the fairness of Fox News, who has served on the board of Walmart, whose husband earns nearly a million for a speech praising the Columbia free trade deal, etc, etc.
Finally, on another board a Michigan democrat wrote that when they went to the polls and found only Hillary's name on the ballot, they immediately suspected election-rigging on Hillary's part - and the suspicion has come true. BTW, it was Hillary people who initiated the "votes-won't-count" punishment ...

Posted by: distantobserver | May 26, 2008 2:23 AM

Apparently some anonymous donor is currently doubling Obama donations, so he's getting at least $100 from this.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:24 AM

So wait, after we got Rev. Wright crammed down our throats for weeks, we should let this just die down? Are you people high? It's unfortunate that the only way anyone can get any dirt on Obama is to make stuff up about him. And those of you threatening to vote for McCain? Do it, see what you get. I'm sorry you hate America, if we vote in another Republican we *will* become Fascist and the colonialist nation the rest of the world accuses us of being. The middle class will disappear and there will be a tiny ruling class of the very very rich taxing the very very poor into their graves. Oil and food prices will continue to rise and there will be never ending war. And if you don't believe it, then you haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 2:25 AM

I don't think you guys see the point. Hillary has often cleverly injected race and other comments into politics. She did this by cleverly referencing the kennedy assassination. What it means is that she is trying to tell her constituents to hold on because there is still a possibility of something going in her favor. What she does not understand is that she is in a leadership position and her mentioning that comment could possibly give some uneducated, racists (which is over 20% of her political base) the inspiration to make it come true. If this is her thought process then I think she needs to give up because I know she would not want to get in office by default. I understand the women that want their first female president. I also understand the fears of change experienced by her racists followers but fear of change should not control the future of our nation.

Posted by: James | May 26, 2008 2:26 AM

The thing I love the most about Obamas bullsh*t routine is the way he's tried so hard to avoid scrutiny by preemptively proclaiming he won't run a 'negative' campaign. That alone should make it clear to anyone with an IQ over 90 that he is as dangerous as GW.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:26 AM

I'd rather be broke than see the horrible destruction that either Hillary or McCain would cause to my country.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:28 AM

$75

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:29 AM

It took Clinton over 5 years to finally admit she did wrong by voting in favor of the Iraq War. Maybe she'll apologize for this latest bluder in 2013.

Posted by: Can't say sorry | May 26, 2008 2:30 AM

Yeah Hillary's so scary, a seasoned Senator who answers questions and shows up for VOTES instead of pontificating and repeating hackneyed slogans ad nauseum. Obama is an absurd human being.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:30 AM

Are you for real?
For 20 years people have been screaming for cleaner issue based politics and you write this?

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"The thing I love the most about Obamas bullsh*t routine is the way he's tried so hard to avoid scrutiny by preemptively proclaiming he won't run a 'negative' campaign. That alone should make it clear to anyone with an IQ over 90 that he is as dangerous as GW.
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(Added a period for you.)

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 2:33 AM

John and the Real Truth:

BO is NOT tied to Farrakhan. Rather, if you do your research, it was HRC's supporter Ed Rendell that had awarded Farrakhan an award for work he'd done in PA a few years ago....there's a picture of him hugging Farrakhan and thanking him. Do a google search, sure you'll find it.

HRC's ties are beyond questionnable and really raise eyebrows. Look at the full picture since she has NOT been fully vetted since leaving the WH and STOP being so one-sided. Go to www.paulvclinton.com

Rev. Wright visited the WH during the Clinton administration to assist Bill during his period of unfaithfulness during the Lewinsky bout. Interesting HRC NEVER mentioned any of this. Why/how did the WH clear for him to visit the WH IF Rev. Wright was such a lune?

The GOP has far more info from HRC's baggage that they hope to unleash should she become the nominee.

I'm sick and tired of reading soooooo much hatred coming from HRC supporters. What happened to supporting our party?

Posted by: Henry | May 26, 2008 2:34 AM

post at 2:15 is really HilaryForver and I missed it. Soory about that. $100.

Come on, don't hide.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:34 AM

I am a conservative, born and bred to hate Hillary and her ilk, but this contrived media reaction is just beyond pitiful; it is embarrassingly artificial and tiresome. If the media were still in Hillary's corner instead of blatantly and shamelessly in the corner of the extremist clueless racist diva Obama, they would have given this a complete pass.

I spoke with others about this statement. They all agree that the media's attempt to "whip up" public reaction is ridiculous, transparent, and all-in-all, pretty stinkin limp.

Hillary, shrill and shrewish though she may be, was merely stating that Robert Kennedy was still fighting for the nomination during that memorable June when he was assassinated; and, his untimely death -- his assassination -- merely provided a clear and unforgettable reference point that supported her original assertion: which was, that many primaries were not decided until later in the year.

The disingenuous flakes trying to make more of this than it is, you're really pitiful, and your Obama golden boy is unelectable.

So sorry, tough you-know-whatty.

Posted by: Johnny Q | May 26, 2008 2:35 AM

It seems to me that the only platform Hillary is pushing is 'I am woman, hear me roar' with this idea that she must keep running because the women want her. I've kept my own little unofficial score of blog comments from women, and it looks like the majority of women are supporting Obama, heh heh...sooo, apparently she roars so loud that she must cover her ears to block the reality that most women are smarter than she thinks!

Hillary, you're running out of excuses...

Posted by: michael | May 25, 2008 7:13 PM
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Michael, well said! Hilliary's campaign is now saying "she is staying in the race for all the women who voted for her and because she is electable" Whatever happened to thos "hardworking Americans, WHITE Americans. hardworking WHITE Americans, with less than a college degree, who want me."? How quickly she forgot about THEM once she got their votes!!! Women beware, IF she should con her way into the nomination and ultimately the election and somehow win, she will promptly forget you too, just like she did the Hispanics and the hardworking white Amricans w/less than a college degree. But then, guess you really don't have to worry about that since she truly is not ELECTABLE or FIT for the Office of the Presidency and Commander-in-Chief. Still, the knowledge that you, too, would become a nonentity should give you pause.

Posted by: NinaK | May 26, 2008 2:36 AM

I'm 46 years old, and I've never seen any presidential candidate run as bad a campaign as Hillary Clinton has. Here's a person who had more advantages at the start than probably any candidate in history. But, she managed to lose it. At the same time, Barack Obama has run the best campaign that I've ever seen.

Now Obama is sexist and misogynistic!! Get real Hillary! For as much as I've seen, Obama has been too much of a gentleman. In fact he elevated her campaign to a higher level than Hillary ever did herself, in his victory/conssession speech after the Oregon/Kentucky contest, when he remarked that he was thankful for Hillary for making the world better for his daughters...etc. I can't recall 1 moment where Hillary inspired me about her campain as much as Obama inspired me about her campaign in that Oregon/Kentucky speech....in just a couple of sentences.

They say a person can only do to another person, that which has already been done to him/her. I think Hillary has internalized the malicious treatment that she got from the Republicans when President Clinton was in office and this is what she's dishing out to Obama.

Its very, very sad.

Posted by: ctwdog | May 26, 2008 2:37 AM

This woman is starting to remind me of Katherine Harris.

She needs to step down immediately, she is destroying our party.

Posted by: Step-down | May 26, 2008 2:38 AM

Vision without srateghy is hallucination (forget who said it first). But ain't that the truth. Here's another one. When the truth isn't in ya then how can ya speak the truth (source the Bible "the truth isn't in them"). What do all these people have in common? Feinstein, B. Clinton, Bush Sr., Cheney, Kissinger(google TriLateral Commission members for others)you got is it's the TriLateral Commission. What do they all have in common with the TriLateral commission = One World Order, Nafta (Cheney wrote it B. Clinton approved it and H. Clinton supports it). And why does the Feinsteins, B. Clinton, Cheney, Bush Sr. supported H. Clinton for President of the United States? Well it's not about Democrates or Republicans - IT'S ABOUT THE HIDDEN AGENDA OF THE TRILATERAL COMMISSION FOR ONE WORLD ORDER AND HILLARY IS THEIR NEXT BUSH JR PUPPET SO WATCH OUT MR. OBAMA - WATCH YOUR BACK BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO.

Posted by: MissClarity | May 26, 2008 2:38 AM

Fran, you're cracking me up!

Posted by: Stuart | May 26, 2008 2:40 AM

What is the big deal?
This is nothing more than the Obamatrons attempting to railroad Senator Clinton.

Nice try Axelrod.
The race is still on.

Thinking voters want change they can trust.
We want leaders that are tested
and a president we know
that will work hard for us.
HRC is that person.

So get over your bad self
and stop nitpicking.

Posted by: HOLYCOW | May 26, 2008 2:40 AM

"

Get over it, she apologized for the comment directly to the press. Not that she needed to, since she meant nothing by it. Obama, on the other hand, tap dances around every topic known to Man.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:16 AM "

She apologized to the Kennedys in case they were offended, then told us RFK Jr. wasn't. For my part, like most Americans, I AM offended. She hasn't apologized to US. Just blames it on others.

And "meant nothing by it?" Get a life! The campaign didn't end when Bobby was shot; it went on to the vicious and bloody convention in Chicago, weeks later. If she wanted a timeline, there were lots to choose from; why that one?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 2:40 AM

Are you for real?
For 20 years people have been screaming for cleaner issue based politics and you write this?
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Obama spent his entire campaign saying absolutely NOTHING. He built a huge base of mooon eyed sycophants (you) simply by repeating 'Change' over and over in an MLK tone. ONLY when put on the spot at the Debates did he grudgingly begin to say anything specific. Save your money and buy yourself a clue (period)

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:42 AM

Johnny Q should point his browser at pollster.com and see that both Obama and Clinton are beating McCain at the moment. The upcoming debates will be a hoot. McCain couldn't win a debate against a bottle of steak sauce. I might just hook my TV back up just to watch.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:42 AM

She apologized to the Kennedys in case they were offended, then told us RFK Jr. wasn't. For my part, like most Americans, I AM offended. She hasn't apologized to US. Just blames it on others.

And "meant nothing by it?" Get a life! The campaign didn't end when Bobby was shot; it went on to the vicious and bloody convention in Chicago, weeks later. If she wanted a timeline, there were lots to choose from; why that one?
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She had nothing to apologize for, she was making a point about long campaigns. No offence, but what you're saying is extremely dumb.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:45 AM

"I spoke with others about this statement. They all agree that the media's attempt to "whip up" public reaction is ridiculous, transparent, and all-in-all, pretty stinkin limp."

Hey, it's not the Obama campaign that's raising all this; it's Hillary.

It was a stupid, trivial comment. She should have just said "I'm sorry" and moved on. SHE is the one that is raising this as an attack on HER. Get the picture?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 2:45 AM

When people talk of Obama as a good speaker but an empty suit I wonder.. What do you think the President of the United States actually does? The Prez doesnt solve complex trig questions, the proz doesnt write legislation, the prez doesnt set the fed rates, the prez doesn't do any complicated policy analysis. The President of the United States job is to effectively communicate his cabinet's policies to the nation and other nations and hopefully resolve problems in (usually) the most effective and hopefully non violent abrasive manner. And to use sound judgement if and when he/she has to make tough decisions. If you beleive the president does much much more than that then we should elect the smartest MIT grad instead of a politician.
Now.. John McCain, though I feel is or was well intentioned has proven that he will cave to his right-wing nutjob constituents in order to get elected. Thus calling into question his judgement and backbone. And Hillary has proven herself abrasive and unlikeable. Which will not bode well for her dealing with nations that have primitive preconceived notions about women in general. Not to mention the fact that she is unorganized. So.. I'm voting for the person who appears the most level headed and reasonable. And not bound by dogmatic ideology

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 2:47 AM

At every twist and turn this woman changes the story, changes the rules, moves the goal posts.

Quite frankly I am sick of her irrational behavior. She wants to be President so badly she is willing to destroy everything and anything in her way.

After 8 years of Bush and all the craziness for what, to have her holding the reins? As far as I am concerned she is no longer a viable candidate for The Party of Jefferson.

Republicans steal elections, not Democrats. And Democratic candidates do not whip their supporters up into a hateful froth against another Democratic candidate, that's just unacceptable behavior, especially at this late date.

Posted by: Clarissa | May 26, 2008 2:47 AM

$125

Obama's web site says quite a bit. Check your facts. Hillary and Obama are really very close on the issues that matter to us Democrats.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:47 AM

Actually, I was discussing the race with my family well before her remark, and we all agreed she was staying in in hopes of Obama's assassination.

Frankly, that's probably why her words struck a chord: no one can quite put such a hope past her.

Posted by: Monjoose | May 26, 2008 2:49 AM

This woman has explicitly invoked, incited, and invited the assassination of a sitting Senator and likely President of The United States. This is beyond "poor taste." It is tantamount to treason. The Clintons should be exiled and their citizenship revoked.

Posted by: Marc Darn | May 26, 2008 2:50 AM

You know what? I don't really think it's poor Hillary driving this bus. It's Terry McAuliffe and the boys, who think; "Well, she did something stupid; let's stick it on the other side."

And that's the problem. I still believe that somewhere inside, Hillary really is someone who doesn't intend to offend people, and feels sorry for it. But she's been billed as "a fighter," so even when she screws up badly, her handlers want to go after somebody else for it.

Poor Hillary!

I might still consider voting for her, if she loses her present campaign staff....

Maybe for vice-president. If asked.

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 2:51 AM

I haven't seen or heard any comments coming out of Obama or his campaign spokespeople
that could in anyway fan the flames of controversy over Clinton's thoughtless comments.

Certainly, there have been several media commentators who have spoken heated words regarding her comments, and some print media has been stoking the fire. In addition, several blogs have been hopping with negative comments posted by the blog readers.

Obama and his campaign seem to have actually cut Clinton some slack on the issue.

That Clinton is now blaming Obama for the consequences of her own thoughtlessness is just one more example of how narcissistically focused the woman is.

Posted by: Judith | May 26, 2008 2:51 AM

And don't forget, Obama gave great 'speeches' against the war while running for the Senate, then voted in lockstep with Hillary once actually IN The Senate. A slicker more ambitious politician has never existed.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:52 AM

I'm with Obama on thinking Hillary just made a simple slip in mentioning RFK assassination in June of '68 as she sees her C.I.C dream fading away. Still, the comment was totally off-base where "words matter."

With all the racists out there talking trash about Sen. Obama, I'm reminded of King Henry in the 1100's offering the comment "will no-one rid me of this troublesome priest ?" referring to Thomas Becket. Some knights over hearing this line, if you'll pardon the expression Bill Clinton, then "saddled" up and rode over to where Becket was staying and killed him on the spot.

So, HILLARY, we don't need any one with a public forum such as you have, even APPEARING to hint that IF SOMEONE would please take care of this problem like what happened to RFK, well, I'm be ready to immediately step in and fulfill my RIGHT to the Presidency.

Note, I'll cry like i mean it while in public.

Posted by: EosBlue | May 26, 2008 2:53 AM

Someone said Hillary was a Watergate prosecutor, thinking that this was a good thing. It is actually an unfortunate reminder of who she really is, as she was fired by Jerry Zeifman as a result of her actions during that job for "unethical behavior" and "lying", to quote him, and he refused to give her a recommendation. Better think of something else.

Posted by: mlk | May 26, 2008 2:53 AM

I really want a woman to be president but I do not want Hillary. Most people understood what she said and its implications - yet she and her team do not see it. She either shows a lack of judgement or worse - remember when she tried to implement health care in Bill Clinton's term and failed miserably and then she becomes the victim. A few screws loose up there

Posted by: Jon Michael | May 26, 2008 2:54 AM

So, can we get some deranged misogynist to off the Hillary? That should shut the cake hole of all those Fembots who won't vote for Barrack Obama

Posted by: Clear Sighted | May 26, 2008 2:54 AM

Hillary dropping the a-word is just horrible. She might as well have dropped the n-word. She did it more than once so it was no slip. It's even worse than when Bush said 'Crusade' (referring to Iraq), because he realized how stupid he was and he didn't say it again. The context is clear, as is the intent.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:55 AM

"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context,"

Right, just like Hillary's story about being under sniper fire in Bosnia, and how she said that only she can get the votes of "hard working white voters" (as opposed to all those lazy minorities who tend to vote for Obama), and about a dozen other times when Hillary lied or used fear tactics to win votes. When Obama spoke about those "bitter" voters in PA, how did the Clinton camp react to that?

"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family, was in any way offensive."

The Clinton's have mastered the art of the non-apology. I wouldn't be surprized if Hillary is now demanding that Barack apologize to her for letting her put her foot in her mouth.

"Asked if Clinton has personally called Obama to apologize for the reference, McAuliffe said she has not, "nor should she.""

I think somewhere in the Bible it says that if a Clinton ever sincerely apologizes for something, than the end of the world is near.

"McAuliffe noted that Robert F. Kennedy's son -- who endorsed Clinton last November -- has said that Clinton's reference to his father's death did not cross the line."

Robert Jr. speaks only for himself. What about Ted Kennedy or Caroline? Doesn't it seem odd that neither has come out publically to say they were not offended by Hillary's tasteless comment???

"I think it was unfortunate to attack Senator Clinton's remarks without knowing fully what she had said."

First it was not an "attack" as the Clinton's want everyone to think. Obama's people only said her comment was inappropriate and didn't belong in this campaign. Most decent human beings seem to agree with that statement. Secondly, we now know EXACTLY why Clinton is hanging around when there is no realistic hope that she can win this thing fair and square.

"One prominent Clinton supporter acknowledged that virtually all hope for her winning the nomination is gone now."

One????

"Obama clearly has the momentum. I am a proud Hillary delegate. But I predict the race will be over soon," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). "The loser will concede graciously."

Depends on what is the meaning of the word "graciously".

My thanks to knowledge_unchallenged for the inspiration.

Posted by: RoyM | May 26, 2008 2:56 AM

What's weird is that McAuliffe's "rationale" is that Robert F. Kennedy,Jr. didn't take offense, so why should anyone else? This is so transparent that it's not even good sophistry, for there was no reason for him to be offended, not to mention the fact that he supports H.R. Clinton. This primary process has really degenerated into pure juvenility.

Posted by: DofG | May 26, 2008 2:57 AM

The war vote argument is a draw. Both candidates said they were against the war and both have voted for its continued funding. Find a difference of substance and talk about that.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 2:58 AM

"She had nothing to apologize for, she was making a point about long campaigns. No offence, but what you're saying is extremely dumb.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 2:45 AM "

THEN WHY DID SHE UNNECESSARILY RAISE THE ASSASSINATION ISSUE? The nomination race didn't end with Bobby's assassination; it went on beyond June, to the Convention. Why raise the assassination as a way of saying "June." "June" says June.

What you're saying, nyctuber, is not only extremely dumb but extremely disingenuous. The Democratic Convention of '68 was probably more momentous than the RFK assassination, and later. THAT was when the race was decided. So why did she focus on the assassination?

Because of Teddy's cancer?

Then why did she mention it three times before Teddy was diagnosed?

GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE DUMB!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 3:00 AM

Hilaryforever from Kentucky:
If you are really from KY, then respectfully I say to you that Senator Obama is NOT a muslim. Many voters in Appalachia have confused Senator Obama with Senator Keith Ellison of Minnesota who is the only "Muslim" Senator in the Senate. The fact that Obama was sworn into office as a Senator with his hand on THE BIBLE should have given you enough evidence of this. In addition, please do your homework. Here is a link for you to check out: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

Posted by: mission impossible | May 26, 2008 3:00 AM

It's almost like watching a bullfight. She charges in all foaming at the mouth and he deftly parries her charge looking cool and elegant in the process. The bull has all the advantages as far as strength, size and speed. The bullfighter is armed only with his superior intellect and he toys with her until the last moment, when the bull, panting heavily, too tired to even move, with a puzzled look on her face trying to figure out how, even as the sword is slipping between her shoulder blades, she ended up in this position.

Posted by: JD51 | May 26, 2008 3:01 AM

Look on the bright side people. As long as morons(people who make the same mistake THREE times) dont elect any "conservative".

The Nightmare is Almost Over!!!!!!!

Posted by: Johnny Knoxville | May 26, 2008 3:01 AM

If Hillary gets the nomination what can you say to convince me to vote for her? I must tell you I'm an Independent and I've been watching this process very carefully. I have to say that I am impressed with Obama and the way he has ran his campaign. The fact that his donations came from the public, his grassroots efforts, and his call on the youth to serve the country by doing public service is pretty appealing. Clinton was a first lady, she's a Senator, and for the most part she can mix it up. However, although both candidates did and said your typical political jockeying, I was most disturbed with Clintons obliterate comment. At present, we are fighting two wars and the mere mention of obliterating a country who has no nuclear weapons makes me wonder about her judgement. I liked McCain in 2000, but this 2008 McCain is not the candidate I remember, nor would I cast my vote for him i.e., his economic policy, women's rights, healthcare, etc. So, sell me on a Clinton presidency. Convince me of what SHE can do.

Posted by: BrawnvsBrain | May 26, 2008 3:03 AM

Oh, now it's Obama's fault that she's a Machiavellian power grabber. Let's just quit it with the Kool-Aid in the Jungle?

Washington Post, thank you for calling her out in playing the blame game. Terry McCauliffe is now right up there with Bill O'Reilly everytime I lay eyes on him. I just turn the channel and hope for June.

She knew what she was saying or she wouldn't have issued that lack-wit ignorant apology and she's expecting Americans all to be just as stupid as Bush has.

I wish someone would hit her with ... but there were ONLY 13 primaries that year by June and he wasn't killed four primaries from the end when he was ahead... wanna' try again, sister?

If she's treating us like we're stupid now what's next? When Obama had the Wright issue, he addressed this country in a way that said... we are all intelligent adults, let's confront this. Hillary just went... oh, they'll never know the difference if I just say "Duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh....". I know the crayon using folk will back me up.

I don't want any more Presidents picked by the uneducated and easily fooled (gas tax anyone?). You had your say the last two times and see what it got us? Lots of dead Americans and lots more dead Iraqis. Saddam Hussein probably wouldn't have killed that many himself if we left him alone. Great Job, Georgie. Now someone else who thinks Americans are dumb wants your job again.

Hillary Workers of the World... Disunite!

I'm a 42 year old woman, working on my degree and looking for a job, and I don't want to vote for this fantasy weaver and her phony promises.

Her tongue must be sunburnt from being out lying so much.

Posted by: Carly | May 26, 2008 3:06 AM

Well, the conversation has taken a giant leap forward in civility and tone since we scared all the idiots away. I am getting tired. Thanks to those on both sides who kept the conversation interesting. I am going to bed. Obama gets $125 from me and $125 from our anonymous donor.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | May 26, 2008 3:06 AM

All she had to say was, "I misspoke. I shouldn't have mentioned that. I'm sorry." She didn't. She said she was sorry if anyone was offended, putting the burden upon them, not her. Then she said she'd checked with RFK Jr., and he wasn't offended, so it was okay. As if Obama, and the Democratic Party, and us voters, might not have also been offended? But no: it's all about her ego.

And this is who you want managing national affairs for the next 4 years?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 3:06 AM

McCauliffe and Axelrod are taking a leaf from the Republican playbook by attempting to spin Hillary Clinton's mischievous and
unforgiveable statement in response to the question: Why does she continue in the race that she has lost.She said she continues because something could happen (to Barack Obama) as it did to RFK.
Further, as stated above by another blogger, RFK.Jr.'s statement that he was not offended by her statement is totally irrelevant. RFK cannot be assassinated a second time. McCaullife's citing Kennedy's statemet is laughable (as was his tenure as Bill Clinton's handpicked Democratic Party Chairman).

Posted by: ted4 | May 26, 2008 3:09 AM

Here's a make-believe scenario....I wonder what would happen if Obama kept mentioning Geraldine Ferraro's failed run, if someone would take note and wonder why. Then perhaps he would come out with a statement that his repeated mention of her failure has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton running as a woman, nothing to do with her at all, and that Hillary seems to think everything has to do with her. Thus he would kill two birds with one stone, keep the idea in front of the American people of a past female failure to one of the highest offices in the country, and at the same time show disdain and diminish his opponent Hillary for perhaps thinking his remarks are meant for her.

So too the Bobby Kennedy remarks. The idea is meant to be out there, or she wouldn't have repeated it over the last few months. Then when she is called on it, she can castigate and show her contempt for the Obama camp for daring to say, hold on there Hillary.

It's a contemptible game she's playing. I don't admire people who act that way, and I don't care that they're labeled fighters when this is how they fight.

Posted by: mlk | May 26, 2008 3:11 AM

"Suppose an Iranian freedom fighter actually unthinkably assassinated Obama (as happened to RFK), would we still be for engaging those noble Iranians in unconditional negotiations?

It's something to think about! No?"

Hmmm, I have no idea what idiot's guide to history you get your info from buddy, but Sirhan Sirhan was NOT Iranian! Just so that your dumbness learns something

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 3:12 AM

I hope the state of New York throws Hillary Clinton out of politics completely after she's thrown out of this nomination. Let's not forget, the wave of deregulation that caused the dotcom bubble, which led to the housing bubble started under Bill Clinton presidency. The hell with them both!

Posted by: Shawn | May 26, 2008 3:14 AM

At the end of the day, one of these three people will be the President of your country. So you can either not vote in the general or pick a party. Make it easy on yourself. Don't vote the primary.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | May 26, 2008 3:18 AM

Obama campaign thinks it got away with spinning this up. No way, luckily the original interview footage is available at:

Taking comments out of context and defining what was meant - that's spin.

Posted by: tommy | May 26, 2008 3:19 AM

These craze maniacs supporter of Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton is the most ignorant people I have ever seen. They want to try to link Barack Obama to questionable people when Bill and Hillary associations are not choir boys. I can give a long list of criminals, felonies, and unethical people they are really associated with and not ones that Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton have mislead the American People about Barack. I will say she is good at deceiving her poor misguided and misinformed follower. Yes, I was a Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton's supporter, but I am smart enough to think for myself. If these poor uneducated people would research and stop believing these lies than they will see for themselves that this woman is not fit to be president. Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton was behind the Rev. Wright story that ran for 6 weeks on Fox News. Her campaign is responsible for the emails that Barack Obama was a muslim. She has engaged in trying to destroy her opponent based on lies and kitchen sink strategy. Barack Obama had a lot of things he could have used against her that are true but he chose not to do that and I have a lot of respect for him. Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton is trying to win ugly because she is trying to be president to escape prosecution. If she doesn't win then she has the campaign fraud trial and all those pending investigations that may land her in jail. I see why she is so desperate to win. Who knows, maybe Barack Obama will pardon her if she would be little nicer.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 3:19 AM

For those of you who are not black in the USA it must be real easy to dismiss what has just happened and I feel sick to see you acting this way .We in the other world have seen our great leaders shoot down and killed to many times and to hear the words she used is just plain wrong.A-lot of you think that he is making a big deal of this and maybe he is and you know what it is his right to do so .

His wife and kids are up on that stage with him alot of the time and some racist with a scope could kill them all but to see you hill-bots act this way without a care for this mans family is truly shocking and to be honest racist as hell
and to claim that he has something to do with what comes out of her mouth well.....

I can say this live by the sword die by it this is the game they have played since they got behind and it is sick. there is a whole world looking at this election to really see what we are made of as a country and to be honest we are failing .

WE act as thought we do not need people of other races and that we can stand alone and that to say anything to get elected is ok. You might have forgotten the Clintons I havnt and what shocks me more is the lack of understanding most of you have .

They will do anything to win. Do yourselves a favor and look them up do some real soul serching and ask if you really like them or just dont like Obama because he is black it might be your last chance to really have a say in what this country stands for .

Posted by: AA and mad | May 26, 2008 3:22 AM

read Ronald Reagan comments

Posted by: Nixon | May 26, 2008 3:24 AM

To Retnvet:
You wrote:
"Bill Burton's statement that it was uncalled for was the first mention of this. I happened to watch the interview before the "so called" story broke and there was no mention of Obama or inference that he might be assassinated. This particular story is utter B*llsh*t."

Sorry guy, but you're waaaay off. Your sampling of the media was way too slow, and Burton's comment didn't cause anything to happen.

The first major report of the gaffe was from The New York Post Online, who had followed the interview -live- on a Webcast. Within minutes, the AP picked up the story and distributed it around the world.

Burton had nothing to do with this, no matter how much you feel compelled to bash Obama, to lash hout when your lady did a really bad thing.

Strictly mainstream media from start to finish. Like Hillary's people themselves, you're just trying to blame Hillary's gaffe on Obama any way you can.

Got a problem with the reportage? Contact the New York Post and The Associated Press.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 3:25 AM

I heard about this first on CNN. I then hit the computer because the TV News was not considering it important. I on the otherhand was outraged and found out that I was not alone.
I used to be undecided but not now and especally after reading some of the bigots that are posting here. You would vote for someone who will surely take away your rights. the one's I fought for 30 years ago. For revenge! You are all just as nuts as Hillary!

Posted by: Margie | May 26, 2008 3:28 AM

Colonel Harry Riley is a real, live, person. His sole mission in life is to disenfranchise anyone not like him (right wing, fundamentalist, xenophobic, fear strategist for the GOP).

He is the equivalent of the bully you knew in elementary school.

Someone likely not hugged enough as a child.

He hides behind his perceived security of the Internet.

If you want to share you feelings about how he treats other citizens of the country he professes to protect, and love, he can be reached at:

Harry Riley
COL, USA, Ret
111 Overview Drive
Crestview, FL 32539
hmriley@cox.net.
850-689-1818

Posted by: kent jackson | May 26, 2008 3:28 AM

Funny! I see all this written diatribe from people who log in. I see the callousness, the anger, the pain, the hate, and intolerance that we willingly subject each other too. I am reminded of something told to me long ago, in a land that has been dead for awhile. "Those people who make judgments based on feelings, are not thinking." For if you apply logic to a problem, you will come to a conclusion based on data. If you apply emotion to a problem, you come to a conclusion based on desire or need. Anyone who enters the political arena, and willingly subjects themselves to that media circus, is, by nature, cold, calculating, and willing to use people's emotions against them, to get what they want, ie your vote.
Think! If you follow the issues and read what each candidate has shared their views on. You will find that Clinton, Obama, and McCain, individually, want to raise your taxes, develop committees to look into solutions, without actually providing any. Keep this country embroiled in a war, that it's military commanders are using the worst strategy imaginable, to try and contain, not win. These are also the same people who want to intrude even further into your lives and make every decision for you, because they believe that the American people are too stupid to make any sound reasonable decision for themselves.
Look, really look at how they have conducted themselves throughout the entire race for this office. If this were a school yard, and a reasonable adult saw children acting this way, they would have stepped in, separated the three who were yelling and fighting the loudest, and punished them.
Not one of these three, reading through each of they're freely given statements on "ISSUES" has a clue. But they do depend on the sheepeople. They depend on the sheepeople in this country to not think, to react emotionally, to cast aside common sense, because one of them looks better, or is more dynamic, or this one said this and the sheepeople are all offended.
Get a grip!!
There is plenty of historical precedent for my words.
Not thinking gave us....
One of the worst education systems in the world today.
Every war we have been in for the last five thousand years.
The Aids epidemic
The current economy
The current health care system
The current housing problems
The current devastation in New Orleans
The current society we live in, to include the gangs, the violence, the disrespect, and the utter indifference to life that ninety five percent of us exhibit to one another every day.

Face it. The cold hard truth is that we as a nation have lost all honor. We, as a nation, have lost all respect. We, as a nation, have become the biggest soap opera in the world today.
And we did it to ourselves!!
Hypocrisy is a bitter fruit indeed, when you choke on it.

But then what can you expect from a society that abdicated it's collective right to think, and act, many years ago?

Posted by: Mobius | May 26, 2008 3:29 AM

I just read a guy call Obama muslim ??? Are ypu people on drugs ??

I dont understand your way of thinking it might be th long hours of sitting on your fat butts thinking of ways to be hateful and this is all you know and so be it .

I might suggest you go back to your local middle school and ask to come back because they forgot to teach you how to think for yourself and thats just sad .

I also would ask this question where on this earth do you think we get our oil from
and where do you think we are getting the money to fight this war ???

All it takes is for the rest of the world to take a good look at us and decide that if they cant get respect from our leaders and they dont like trading with racist then you dont have a lights it is just that simple WE AS A NATION NEED TO PULL TOGETHER!

Or like i said live by the sword die by it .

Posted by: AA and mad | May 26, 2008 3:30 AM

I always wonder, when people talk about the 'good ole days' of this proud country, what do they mean. Do you mean the "lost honor" of extermination of the native americans, burning women as witches, puritanism, slavery, civil war, bombing Hiroshima, using napalm bombs, watergate, Reaganomics, assassinations of Kennedy, Luther King and Kennedy, or unprovoked wars, secret prisons and torture? When exactly were Americas "the good guys". Oh yea the 50s and 60s when white people were doing the twist and minorities where being hung from tress and sprayed with water hoses :) Honestly. Do the intelligent thing for once. Get over your biases and vote for the level headed guy. Obama 08

Posted by: huh? | May 26, 2008 3:32 AM

Most of you are grossly underestimating the fallout of some unfortunate tragedy befalling Senator Obama. Many of you seem to think that Senator Clinton can win without the very loyal African-American constituency, which the former President enjoyed while in office. If the nomination process is not clearly transparent and it appears that the Clinton machine has strong-armed the party, there will be a fundamental shift in the makeup of the Democratic Party. Gone will be the support of an entire voting block, which the Clintons have relied upon for so many years. Gone will be the young people, who long so desperately for change. And lastly gone would be dream of a person of color being judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.

Posted by: M.Bryant | May 26, 2008 3:32 AM

The war vote argument is a draw. Both candidates said they were against the war and both have voted for its continued funding. Find a difference of substance and talk about that.
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Sorry, but there isn't anything else in the substance department when it comes to Obama. He gives good speech and good slogan. Pure bullsh*t artist.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 3:33 AM

Which makes him the most qualified 'POLITICAN' for office. Bull sh*tting is what a politicians job is. That is why we don't put MIT grads in office. We put POLITICIANS in office. So we should elect the best one.

Posted by: huh? | May 26, 2008 3:36 AM

Hillary keeps talking about how Bill didn't wrap up the nomination until June. Even though everyone else running for Dem that year dropped out by March.

If she really had a legitimate argument for staying in then why wouldn't she use it? She doesn't - she has a sick hope and that's all.

Posted by: Sinaca | May 26, 2008 3:36 AM

Thank you, Carly, for saying so eloquently what we all were thinking!

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 3:38 AM

nyctuber, you need to leave that crystal meth along because I heard that stuff fry your brain and yours is gone. Barack voted to fund the troops because Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton voted for the war. He wasn't going to let our troop be over there without being funded. Barack Obama opposed the war but Hillary was for it. There is a video of her echoing every word Bush said as far as the reason for the war. First of all she needed to read the NIE and she didn't. Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton voted for the war without reading the information. Even she admitted during the debate that she wish she could take her vote back. I am shaking my head on the ignorant of the people who doesn't educate themselves about this president but believe lies without checking it out. Some even support a candidate based on their last name without researching to see if that candidate is fit to be president. I know if these maniac Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton's supporters had done their research then she wouldn't be getting any votes.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 3:42 AM

Which makes him the most qualified 'POLITICAN' for office. Bull sh*tting is what a politicians job is. That is why we don't put MIT grads in office. We put POLITICIANS in office. So we should elect the best one.
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The President's job is to set/steer policy, appoint Supreme Court judges, build concensus around intelligent ideas, use veto wisely... Obama is not qualified for any of it.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 3:43 AM

I was sitting in a meeting when a guest started to comment on a delay our office had in forwarding some materials to a 3rd party. The stuff had been delayed by about 2 weeks. but the lying, fat fembot with bad gums kept raising the bar every time she mentioned it. By the end of the meeting- she had blown it up to two months...Would be nice if they just self-destroyed!

Posted by: typical fembot behavior | May 26, 2008 3:43 AM

"But then what can you expect from a society that abdicated it's collective right to think, and act, many years ago?

Posted by: Mobius | May 26, 2008 3:29 AM "

And what can you expect from a society that hasn't taught its children the proper use of the apostrophe?

Posted by: tom | May 26, 2008 3:43 AM


To raise someone's tragic death to make a point is really insensitive no matter how you look at it.

even though she did not intentionally bring up the specter of assassination, the mere fact she mentioned it in this bitter fight to the end is insensitive.

Posted by: bsting | May 26, 2008 3:44 AM

Quote from a poster calling himself "Hill&Bill"
"I complete faith that a country that "clings to guns & religion" will find away to ensure Barack Hussien Obama isn't our next President. One way or the other.

Hillary will be there to pick up the pieces and ensure we win in November.

BTW I can't believe how the media has spun such a harmless comment about JFK."

Wow you can barely read and write on a 4th grade level, and you are subtlely endorsing the Assassination of a Democratic candidate.... I knew Hillary supporters were nuts but this is just sick. And BTW she was refferring to RFK not JFK. I cant believe Hillary was able to manipulate her supporters into a bunch of foaming at the mouth republican wanna be's. The Democratic party did some good stuff but the party is over... may it rest in peace.

Posted by: My goodness | May 26, 2008 3:47 AM

nyctuber, Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton is certainly not fit to be president. She maybe fit to go to jail once the investigations goes forth and the campaign fraud trial. I know you want her to be president but it is not going to happen so face the truth and get over it.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 3:48 AM

nyctuber, you need to leave that crystal meth along because I heard that stuff fry your brain and yours is gone. Barack voted to fund the troops because Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton voted for the war. He wasn't going to let our troop be over there without being funded. Barack Obama opposed the war but Hillary was for it. There is a video of her echoing every word Bush said as far as the reason for the war. First of all she needed to read the NIE and she didn't. Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton voted for the war without reading the information. Even she admitted during the debate that she wish she could take her vote back. I am shaking my head on the ignorant of the people who doesn't educate themselves about this president but believe lies without checking it out. Some even support a candidate based on their last name without researching to see if that candidate is fit to be president. I know if these maniac Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton's supporters had done their research then she wouldn't be getting any votes.
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Obama wasn't in The Senats and had no decision to make. He's a slick politician who is ALL talk. He also misses ALOT of votes. When you're President, you can't simply say 'present.'

Oh yeah, but, umm... 'Change.'

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 3:49 AM

and Hillary is better suited to build consensus? steer policy? last I checked she hasn't built consensus in her marriage and can't effectively run her own campaign. a LOT of people loved her until she started talking. myself included. idk man. I dont see a better alternative. realistically and based off histories. even as recent as this campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 3:49 AM

Keep ignoring the HillBilly Mr. Obama. As you can see, Hillary doesn't need help in screwing over her campaign.. she does it ALL BY HERSELF! Well maybe she gets some help from Bill too. Anyways, my point is... I have no problem in letting Hillary go on until the convention. At this rate by the time we reach there she will be strapped in a strait jacket in a padded room receiving psychiatric treatment to help her deal with reality.

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary | May 26, 2008 3:50 AM

can we all just come to a conclusion that she didn't mean to disrespect anyone but that she is just an incredibly insensitive and naive person?

Posted by: weswont | May 26, 2008 3:51 AM

my goodness, I don't understand why you craze maniacs want a woman who has engaged in all kind of criminal activities as your president. Why don't you let some criminal who just got out of jail be the president? It is sad that you dumb people want someone like that to be elected to the highest office in the USA. Have society gone that mad?

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 3:51 AM

not to mention that she turned her back on us (minorities) when it was politically expedient. but I WILL vote for whatever democrat wins. I dont hate her at all. Just prefer obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 3:52 AM

and Hillary is better suited to build consensus? steer policy? last I checked she hasn't built consensus in her marriage and can't effectively run her own campaign. a LOT of people loved her until she started talking. myself included. idk man. I dont see a better alternative. realistically and based off histories. even as recent as this campaign.
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Yes, she's far more qualified to build concensus. She's in her 8th year, Obama barely squeeked through 2 fulltime

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 3:53 AM

Everyone google "Little first lady with megalomania". Very funny, as well as fitting.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 26, 2008 3:57 AM

I just wish Hillary is our next president so she could start being insensitive, race bait and cry sexism in the world stage and force other countries like Russia, China and Japan to nuke her out of hermisery...

Posted by: harpseethe | May 26, 2008 3:57 AM

all these guys are politicans so obviously have character issues. I just dont want a Repub. And if you tell me Obama doesnt have natural charisma and doesnt have the potential to be a transformational leader then I don't know who your watching. Clinton just seems so unlikeable to me. Just vote Dem in Nov and I'm happy

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 3:58 AM

Hillary can't control her own husband and she expects to control the United States? Hillary can't bring her own campaign finances out of the red and she expects to bring us out of recession? Hillary can't think straight when she's tired, and she expects to answer that 3am phone call with a clear mind? Hillary calls herself strong and a pioneer for all women, but she cries sexism? NO THANKS! Hillary as our president... the thought makes me quiver with fear.

Posted by: Dana says NO THANKS HILLARY | May 26, 2008 3:59 AM

nyctuber, if Barack Obama was in the US senate, he would have been smart enough to read the NIE before voting to go to war. Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton wasn't smart enough to do that and then her lying butt said she voted for diplomacy because she was running for president. I know you all will continue to make excuses for that mad woman because you have to be mad yourself to support her after all the lies and changing position she has done in her campaign. That's why she is losing and you all think she is winning. A bunch dummies. The only education most of the craze maniac supporters have is a GED which stand for get your education dummy.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 4:00 AM

Sorry to blow your bubble, Hillary4ever but the USA hasn't become a theocracy yet. I'm Jewish and guess what? I'm as much an American citizen as you are bubbeleh. You see, this is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. It's not CHRISTLAND. In this country there are Christians in the majority but there are also Muslims (who are peaceful), Buddhists, Pagans and Jews to mention a few. We are all citizens as much as you are. Geh kocken offen yom!

Posted by: Just As American As You ARE! | May 26, 2008 4:00 AM

all these guys are politicans so obviously have character issues. I just dont want a Repub. And if you tell me Obama doesnt have natural charisma and doesnt have the potential to be a transformational leader then I don't know who your watching. Clinton just seems so unlikeable to me. Just vote Dem in Nov and I'm happy
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He thinks he's MLK. Way too self righteous for my taste.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 4:02 AM

Mrs Clinton is not expected to give in easily. Americans knows her pedigreee. She belongs to the stock that believes America belongs to them. What a joke! The time is up ma. Salvage what is left of your family's dwindling reputation.

Posted by: Cindy Preston | May 26, 2008 4:05 AM

The main reason Axelrod can't attack Hillary on the RFK assassination issue is because he doesn't want to give the Clinton Campaign supporters any fodder for them to be against Obama in the GE. In addition, as another blogger mentioned, she is FEMALE, and needs to be treated with respect and dignity. The only problem: No one has told Hillary that it should be a two way street. So she attacks Obama at will, without repercussion for the most part. The super delegates, due to the fact that she is a FEMALE, does not come out en masse against Hillary, and she plays the female sexist victim argument to boot. Very convenient at both ends. Although it's rare for anyone to pity a millionaire woman, in these circumstances with her obvious power- hunger maneuvers and astute manipulations to the mostly uneducated Appalachians, I truly pity her. She is divisive,and has made a mockery of Obama, and his remarkable campaign of change. I believe that if Obama does not win the GE, African Americans will not forget, and will do whatever it takes to deny her re-election to the Senate.

Posted by: mission impossible | May 26, 2008 4:06 AM

nyctuber, if Barack Obama was in the US senate, he would have been smart enough to read the NIE before voting to go to war. Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton wasn't smart enough to do that and then her lying butt said she voted for diplomacy because she was running for president. I know you all will continue to make excuses for that mad woman because you have to be mad yourself to support her after all the lies and changing position she has done in her campaign. That's why she is losing and you all think she is winning. A bunch dummies. The only education most of the craze maniac supporters have is a GED which stand for get your education dummy.
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'Would have' doesn't cut it when you want to be President. Obama milked his little campaign speech for all it was worth to get where he is now. It took a while for people to even grasp the idea that he didnt actually VOTE against authorizing the use of force. If they have grasped it.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 4:08 AM

Did it ever occur to you that the reason this statement has created such a stir is due to the character of the person who made the statement. If Elizabeth Dole made the statement, and later apologized, people would believe and forgive...honest mistake. But since Hillary made it, people consider her dishonest character,narcissism and ruthless desire to win at all costs and think...I know exactly what she meant, it is despicable. She has nothing to blame except her true colors showing through.

Posted by: Top Dog | May 26, 2008 4:08 AM

Everything Hillary has done for the past ten years is a cold calculation for her 2008 presidency.

1. She leaves Arkansas for New York because NY has more delegates.

2. She voted for the Iraq war because it was popular then. She reversed her decision to support it now because it is unpopular now.

3. Hillary sees people as "politcal assets" cried sexism when majority of people in a state did not vote for her.

4. She agreed to the rules that FL and MI delegates will not count but she is reversing her decision and changing the rules now because she is losing.

Hillary is losing because she is Hillary no reason else.

Posted by: keeblerelf | May 26, 2008 4:09 AM

yeah it's his fault you said what you really mean.

Posted by: carlos | May 26, 2008 4:09 AM

just because he evokes that sentiment in you doesnt mean he believes that. just because Kobe's talent reminds you of Jordan doesnt mean he thinks he's Jordan. but maybe he does I dont know him. tell me this would you stay married to someone who betrayed you multiple times? I wouldnt, so it seems her marriage is for political purposes. doesnt that seem fake and transparent, and soul less? I hate to bring that into it but it is what it is.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:10 AM

Can she EVER take accountability for anything? Her vote on Iraq. Her vote on the Iranian National Guard and subsequent "obliterate" remark. Her praise of McCain as having a lifetime of experience but her diminishing of Obama has only having a speech. Her use of racial language throughout the campaign. Her blatant lies about Bosnian sniper fire. Her "shame on you" outburst. Her hiring of chief strategist Mark Penn, a man lobbying for Colombia against her own position on Colombia. Her campaign debt of 20 million. Her use of gender as an excuse. And now this.

When will we be finally rid of this disaster of a person?

Posted by: Suedehead | May 26, 2008 4:11 AM

She is certifiable. This has become abundantly clear.

Posted by: BillyBudd | May 26, 2008 4:12 AM

He's far more charitable to her than she deserves. She took his "bitter" comment and ran with it, played it for all it was worth. She's taken every single cheap shot she could. What has he done? Shown admirable restraint and integrity. He gave her a pass, more or less excused the remark.

Now, what do you think she would have done if the situation were reversed? Well, of course, she'd milk it dry. She's disgusting.

Posted by: Amelia | May 26, 2008 4:12 AM

Did it ever occur to you that the reason this statement has created such a stir is due to the character of the person who made the statement. If Elizabeth Dole made the statement, and later apologized, people would believe and forgive...honest mistake. But since Hillary made it, people consider her dishonest character,narcissism and ruthless desire to win at all costs and think...I know exactly what she meant, it is despicable. She has nothing to blame except her true colors showing through.
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It didn't make a good impression on me. I see it as proof positive of the disturbing way Obama has weasled his way into the Presidential race. I've never seen Obama do anything but speak in that grandiose tone about generalities and the occasional specific when forced to do so. The man is a fraud look out if he gets elected.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 4:14 AM

How is this unfortunate slip of the tongue any different that Obama's inadvertent "bitter/cling" comment.

Why was it okay for HRC to capitalize on "the bitter/cling" statement? Do I see a double standard?

All I can say it is just as BO stated. It has been a long campaign, they both are tired and often individuals words thing erroneously when they are tired. I believe as insensitive as the "bitter/cling" and BK statements were they were both unfortunate mistakes.

Posted by: odd | May 26, 2008 4:14 AM

Just as Obama took the wrath of Rev. Wright and his words, Hillary should suck it up and take everything that comes to her. The Clinton campaign fanned to flames on the Rev. Wright issue like there was no tomorrow. Now that the tables are turned, Clinton and her campaign are crying like babies. Whats worst is that these words came from HER MOUTH, not from her reverant or priest or anybody else for that matter. SUCK IT UP HILLARY CLINTON!! Hopefully the kitchen sink hits you so hard in the head that it wakes you up from that daydreaming you've been doing all these months.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:16 AM

If this is how she behaves as a campaigner, how the hell does she expect anyone to trust her as president? Her campaign alone should be a clear indicator of why she has NO BUSINESS running the country.

Posted by: Independente | May 26, 2008 4:16 AM

nyctuber, again you spew out lies like Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton. Barack Obama said he was against the war. He never said he voted against the war. You make some of the dumbest argumemts on Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton's behalf. Barack Obama spoke out against the war while he was campaigning for the US Senate. It could have caused him to lose because at that time the war was popular. I can appreciate that he doesn't do and say anything to win like Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton. I was once a supporter but once I did my research and heard all the lies she continued to tell, I switch my support to Barack Obama and voted for him in the primary. We have one lying and unethical president in the white house and I refuse to vote Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton in as another one. At least I am smart enough not to do that.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 4:18 AM

My goodness. Even the most objective person in the room has to say this woman is a loose cannon. How many times has Charles Rangel said "the dumbest thing you could have possibly said"? And then, as if to say, "Oh, yeah, watch this!" she proceeds to make an even dumber statement. If she has any role to play in the Obama administration, I hope it is something like Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare. For God's sake keep her off the ticket. Who knows what she'll do next?

Posted by: Richard Bentley | May 26, 2008 4:20 AM

look Hillary Clinton is not a murderer, she is not crazy as some suggest, she is not a monster. She is an emotionally dead, cold, ruthless politician. And I can respect that. She wants what she wants for her life and she is pursuing it strongly. Indomitable will is commendable. But Obama is thoughtful, considerate, highly intelligent and strong of character. All bull sh*t aside. I am not Sean Hannity and am not going to demonize anyone. Accept Republicans. I believe those people are monsters, are crazy and not to get into conspiracies, are murderers. So vote Dem. Unless you have a primary in your state coming up, this argument is pointless. Vote Dem.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:22 AM

nyctuber, again you spew out lies like Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton. Barack Obama said he was against the war. He never said he voted against the war. You make some of the dumbest argumemts on Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton's behalf. Barack Obama spoke out against the war while he was campaigning for the US Senate. It could have caused him to lose because at that time the war was popular. I can appreciate that he doesn't do and say anything to win like Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton. I was once a supporter but once I did my research and heard all the lies she continued to tell, I switch my support to Barack Obama and voted for him in the primary. We have one lying and unethical president in the white house and I refuse to vote Hillary "TONYA HARDING" Clinton in as another one. At least I am smart enough not to do that.
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Funny that you keep mentioning Tonya Harding like a mental patient, Obama has spent most of his campaigh playing the victim. God forbid anyone should criticize mr self righteous Divinity.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 4:23 AM

Anyone still supporting Clinton is obviously just a McCain supporter "in disguise". Even Hillary's own people have been telling her it's over for a LONG time. She's pulled every dirty trick in the book and each and every one has backfired on her. It will all be over soon and she can can take her "kitchen sink", her sleazy husband, her Bosnia fantasies and lies, her racist remarks, her fake accents, her "entitlement" attitude, her unpaid vendors, her horrifying comments (always blamed on Obama), her irresponsible fund management, her fake tears, and all the rest of her phony BS and go away. Obama will win and we WILL have MAJOR and MUCH NEEDED change. Other countries will again respect and support us, the middle class will no longer be the working poor, and we'll FINALLY have a president we can be proud of instead of one screwing around and lying and selling us out with NAFTA and such, or one endorsing torture, making his buddies rich off an illegal war that has destroyed another country and caused incredible losses on every level for Americans (just to name a FEW things on the TIP of his administration's crimes). OBAMA 08!

Posted by: WA-Chelle | May 26, 2008 4:24 AM

I think the Clinton's are seeing their once powerful and notable name slowly dwindle away. THAT is the reason why she is still staying in this race. Facing the demise of the Clintons will be a hard pill to swallow for Bill and Hillary. I honestly think they will need to get some grief counseling after this.

Posted by: Bye Bye to the Clinton name | May 26, 2008 4:26 AM

nyctuber, you are the nutty one for listening and believing all the lies from the Clinton. Why don't you educate yourself and then come back to talk to me.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 4:26 AM

nyctuber, you are the nutty one for listening and believing all the lies from the Clinton. Why don't you educate yourself and then come back to talk to me.
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I'll take Hillary's 'lies' over a self righteous inexperienced fraud like Barack Obama any day of the week.

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 4:29 AM

WA-Chelle, you told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. You get an "A" plus on that assessment of the Clintons.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 4:30 AM

in my last comment on this. If indeed, I havent done the math, Clinton does not have a chance to win this thing, then I do have to question her motives for staying in the race. She is not stupid, so if she truly has no chance she should know. If she knows and refuses to drop out bc she wants a VP nod or worse the "new world order cheney bush clinton one world conspiracy" and she is merely trying to damage the outsider who interferred with their plans as some suggest. Then I have lost faith in this "land of the free home of the brave freedom blah blah" and will be out of this country. If the American people elect another repub and this country is in just another phase of "manifest destiny" I am f*ing outa here.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:32 AM

I'll take Hillary's 'lies' over a self righteous inexperienced fraud like Barack Obama any day of the week.
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nyctuber, now I know you are doing crystal meth as you are making these off the wall comments.

Posted by: Sexy | May 26, 2008 4:32 AM

This is a despicable time in American politics. Never have We seen or heard, political power players even jokingly (or mis speaking-ly) talking about a presidential candidate being assassinated. This man has children that see their father in crosshairs on TV. He has a wife that hears a politician (Huckabee, a reverend) saying some one pointed a gun at her husband. Then a commentator on fox news saying someone should do away with Osama and Obama. This is beyond blatant. It is disrespectful to Obama and insulting to everything they campaigned for and the American people. This is blatant racism, for they want him removed for nothing more than the color of his skin. As far as the clinton comment, the fact that she mentioned no apology, if even for presentation, goes to suggest the seriousness of the intent behind her words. The black men and women dying for our country are now asking what am I fighting for? This needs to go away now. There will be unsurmountable tears if the wishes of these rascists come to pass.

Posted by: Andrew Stone | May 26, 2008 4:32 AM

nyctuber should be ignored, just like Hillary Clinton. There is no place for ignorance in this world.

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary | May 26, 2008 4:34 AM

nyctuber should be ignored, just like Hillary Clinton. There is no place for ignorance in this world.
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'Change.'

Posted by: nyctuber | May 26, 2008 4:37 AM

My last blog tonight is simple:
Vote for Obama and he may save us billions from our middle class pockets. Vote for McCain and he will make sure we continue to pay billions for the Iraq war out of our pockets with McCain's fat cat lobbyist groups in line to take over from Bush's fat cats. It almost makes you want to become a Republican with the money they are stealing from the US Treasury and the middle class. Sounds like what Salinas de Gotari did to Mexico back in the late 80's early 90's. He hid in exile in Ireland until 2002.

Lesson: If you vote for McCain then YOU pay for the war, not ME.

Posted by: mission impossible | May 26, 2008 4:37 AM

look Hillary Clinton is not a murderer, she is not crazy as some suggest, she is not a monster. She is an emotionally dead, cold, ruthless politician. And I can respect that. She wants what she wants for her life and she is pursuing it strongly. Indomitable will is commendable. But Obama is thoughtful, considerate, highly intelligent and strong of character. All bull sh*t aside. I am not Sean Hannity and am not going to demonize anyone. Accept Republicans. I believe those people are monsters, are crazy and not to get into conspiracies, are murderers. So vote Dem. Unless you have a primary in your state coming up, this argument is pointless. Vote Dem.

Posted by: | May 26, 2008 4:22 AM

in my last comment on this. If indeed, I havent done the math, Clinton does not have a chance to win this thing, then I do have to question her motives for staying in the race. She is not stupid, so if she truly has no chance she should know. If she knows and refuses to drop out bc she wants a VP nod or worse the "new world order cheney bush clinton one world conspiracy" and she is merely trying to damage the outsider who interferred with their plans as some suggest. Then I have lost faith in this "land of the free home of the brave freedom blah blah" and will be out of this country. If the American people elect another repub and this country is in just another phase of "manifest destiny" I am f*ing outa here.

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Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:39 AM

Hmm? Did I hear something? Oh it's just nyctuber, ignore em'. On to Obama vs McCain... who cares about Hillary, obviously McCain and Obama doesn't. They are moving on without her cause they both know she already lost.

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary | May 26, 2008 4:40 AM

How about blaming americans for their president blunder ?

Posted by: James L | May 26, 2008 4:45 AM

Its intellectually dishonest to say "this was taken out of context". When asked about her reasons to stay in the race when it is MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for her to win... She responds with "My husband didn't wrap up the nomination until June and Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June..." For the last 2 months the theme of her campaign has been "Lets keep going because anything can happen". Obviously this is part of that "ANYTHING", but to use that particular example is disturbing at best. I'm an Obama supporter and she never had my vote, but this particular statement was just plain bad. Her apology was an insult and now blaming the victim, sad...

Posted by: Gary S | May 26, 2008 4:45 AM

do you guys remember the repub debates? "I'll kill them all" "I'll kill them faster" "I'll kill them then eat them" "My wife will eat the muslims with me" "I killed and ate a muslim last night" "I'll kill them eat them jack off of the Qua'ran" "Here here"

Just vote Dem in Nov

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:46 AM

OMG! That Keith Olbermann special comment was "HILLARY"OUS!!! Kudos Keith for giving Hillary and her campaign a freaken reality check! WOW!!! I couldn't have said it any better. That must of shrunk the testosterone right out of Hillary LOL!!

Posted by: giggles | May 26, 2008 4:47 AM

Carmen Paglia had said it even before this flap occurred that the Clinton Camp were ghoulishly hoping that something would happen sufficient to derail Obama from the nomination. On Meet the Press yesterday one participant - not from the Obama camp -said that a key reason for continuing the campaign - again, before the flap - was the hope that something cataclysmic would happen. And Gwen Ifill put the lid on when she said there was no reason whey Hillary could not suspend her campaign and get back in in the event that something unexpected occurred. NOW THEY'RE BLAMING OBAMA FOR FLANNING THE FLAMES!!! How absurd can you get!!! Another point: why doesn't the press clarify for the public the fallacy of the importance of the popular vote? Isn't the nominaiton won on the basis of the delegate count? Is there another way to decide a democractic primary??????

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 4:50 AM

To Mr 'The Real Truth'. Dear sir, anyone who thinks that America was the "birthplace of freedom" is lacking experience in many areas. Have you ever thought about changing your name? It doesn't seem very accurate to me.

Posted by: Tailgate | May 26, 2008 4:53 AM

Who in their right mind would continue to ask americans who are already struggling as is, to donate to a campaign that is consistently in the red? Only someone who is selfish. I would be such a reluctant donor at this point. And to be honest, when have you heard of an Obama superdelegate jumping over to the Hillary camp? Oh... like NEVER. For her to stay in this race is becoming more and more suspicious than anything else. If anything should happen to Obama (God forbid) you KNOW where all the arrows will be pointing.. straight at you Hillary CLINTON!

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary | May 26, 2008 4:56 AM

I believe in Hillary Clinto Math.

As a proud Father of my 6 year old daughter. According to my daughter who is learning Math,
She came to the same Conclusion as Hillary Math facts.
My Daughter agrees with Hillary math equation, My 6 year old daughter math equation is similar to Hillary math equation, and that puts Hillary ahead in the delagate count.

NOT, hAHAHAHA

How can people support hillary, she is constantly lying and making up things to get people vote. She is not authentic.
I think people are misguided by her silver tounge.

She is spending money collected from supporters even though she has a losing cause. She is taking potential votes away from obama because of her lack of reality in winning the election.
Do people want a change or decide not to vote for obama and make mcaine win and have the same bush regime.
If obama is the nominee they should rally toward him and make the next president a democrat and not mccain for a bush regime.

Posted by: proud dad | May 26, 2008 4:57 AM

Whoa! You're right, if anything happens to Obama from here on, Hillary Clinton will be blamed for it!! Oh boy, Hillary you screwed up big time.

Posted by: Dana in HI | May 26, 2008 5:00 AM

McAuliffe noted that Robert F. Kennedy's son -- who endorsed Clinton last November -- has said that Clinton's reference to his father's death did not cross the line.

"If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't find offense to it, why is it that everybody else should?" McAuliffe said. "They shouldn't. They ought to take Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -- he did not misinterpret it or misjudge it."

So Mr. McAuliffe, if this is so and it isn't yet June, why not encourage Mrs. Clinton to refer to the Robert Kennedy assassination again?

Posted by: Boaz | May 26, 2008 5:11 AM

I dont mean to change the subject, but 3 hawaii superdelegates just endorsed Obama!! Go Obama!

Posted by: Dana in HI | May 26, 2008 5:13 AM


I'm not voting for Obama. I'm another lifelong Democrat. I have voted eight times for the male Democrat nominee. This primary has been filled with media bias and most people know it. Also the DNC insiders have just let it happen. Obama is their anointed one.

Obama and his campaign fueled this story and then sent out Keith Obermans's long temper tantrum about Hillary to other news people.

Keith Oberman needs to be fired and his temper tantrum shouldn't have been aired.

Posted by: Digg | May 26, 2008 5:17 AM

Hillary Clinton,
More concerned with fixing blame than fixing problems.
If Hillary and her surrogates spent as much time considering the issues as they do in creating nightmares all of us would be better off.
Hillary has learned the wrong lessons from the republicans. To lie, cheat & malign are republican hallmarks of governing.
Hillary's activities these past couple of months have been building to this.
THIS!
No wonder Hillary worships Karl Rove, Lee Atwater & Mellon Scaife while dreaming of political violence.

Posted by: paul94611 | May 26, 2008 5:22 AM

HRC cries on camera for effect (New Hampshire), notes she is the victim of sexism (true--but not from Obama),
then she implies Obama is a wimp (James Carville goes on TV and says if HRC gave Obama one of her cohones, they both would have two).

HRC talked on and on and on about Rev. Wright,
then she accuses Obama of fanning the flames of the media (over "assasination").

If being tired makes her say stupid things, how is she going to handle a "3 am phone call"?

And Clinton suporters: if you vote for McCain with the plan to vote HRC in in 2012, then keep in mind that Obama supporters could do that too. Or if your dreams come true and Obama is out of the race we could find another person--man or woman--to support who is not as tacky as HRC.

I just like that Obama has treated her with respect this entire time. When Geraldine Feraro was asked to cite examples of Obama sexism, she couldn't think of any. She just said he was propped up by the "black sexist media."


Posted by: Voter | May 26, 2008 5:28 AM

I guess the moderator can't be reading too many of the postings here today. How could anyone say "Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it. "
Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM
This is the sad and pathetic form of wasted space that would be emboldened by any possible tangential remark of assassination. Moreover, to think this "creature" might very well own a gun too. I could only hope he gets a visit from the Secret Service.

Regardless of who you support, why wish such a thing?

Posted by: Rob | May 26, 2008 5:38 AM

Finally the final primaries! Many of the superdelegates were just waiting for this so they can jump in and make their decision.

To make it exciting some of them will trickle over to Obama first (those switiching from Clinton to Obama.

After that Obama will reach the magic number even if Hillary tries to raisse the goal post. Just try it Hillary and it will only hurtelf within the Party.

Poor Hillary doesn't represent change she represents the worst kind of .....

Posted by: jethro mayham | May 26, 2008 5:49 AM

Did Obama blame the bittergate controversy on Clinton? No of course not, even though this woman was seen waddling all over the nation stoking it up and up. That's the difference between a class act and a crass act. What a slimeball.

Posted by: thisworld | May 26, 2008 6:08 AM

Hillary Clinton and her aides are all pathological in their delusion and deceit. It is always others fault and never theirs. She makes a gaff and it is her opponent's fault. She implied that Obama might be taken out by a racist lunatic(her typical supporters) and yet gets annoyed because Obama got upset.

This is yet another example of many which cry out loud on the deficiency on her character and moral values. She is only fit to run an Akansas branch of KKK.

Posted by: thisworld | May 26, 2008 6:14 AM

It is not Robert Kennedy Jr who has the power to forgive Hill's gaffe. It is Obama's to offer. The implication of her remark is that it is the life of Obama that is threatended not Robert Kennedy or even his junior.

She said it so lightly as if this was a natural course of thing. Disturbingly, it came across unmistakably as something she has thought about for a long time and very likely has also wished for. What a monster! How far-seeing Samantha Powers has been.

Posted by: thisworld | May 26, 2008 6:23 AM

Hillary's team is ridiculous. First they blame the sexist media, now I guess they figure Obama's went in with the major networks now. What about Olberman, the Times, and all the other media outlets that attacked her? Obama's camp just said that her statement was "unfortunate". Hillary just made something akin to a Freudian slip. Look at all the racial issues Obama's had to deal with and you don't hear his campaign saying the media's racist, because that's an obvious given. So for her to think nobody's going to spin jokes around her gender like people have spun jokes around Obama's name and supposed religion amongst other things is absurd.

Posted by: hate the dems but hate gops more | May 26, 2008 6:48 AM

If anyone says that Hillary Clinton didn't suggest that anything could happen including an assassination, they're utterly stupid! Either that or they're trying to walk on egg shells so as to avoid further turmoil within Democratic ranks.

Posted by: Woody | May 26, 2008 7:00 AM

It's one thing to hope that Obama will be found with a dead hooker, live boy or maybe a fist full of cocaine but it's quite another to wish him assassinated and tip your hand as to your only legitimate campaign strategy since she's mathematically eliminated barring a bullet, boy, hooker etc.

Way to go Hillary your dream may indeed come true because after all there is still time and your racist base sure seems motivated.

Posted by: Steve S | May 26, 2008 7:00 AM

As a New Zealander, I find it hugely entertaining to read about the ridiculous farce that is American politics. Ever wondered why your participation rates are the lowest in the developed world?

It isn't just the racism. It isn't just thte sexism. It's all the bigotry and ignorance that is accepted by EVERYBODY. Two examples:

-The anti-Muslim bigotry: Sorry America, but there's nothing wrong with being a Muslim. If parts of the ARABIC world are out to get you, it's because of anger over the treatment of the Palestinians. It is a disgrace that America gives billions of dollars in military aid to Israel so it can cluster bomb its neighbours, while ignoring the plight of the Palestinians, whose average wage is 1/31 of that of Israelis, whose unemployment is sky-high because they can't get jobs in Israel without wasting 6 hours a day at checkpoints and whose land was usurped from them in 1948. America refuses to negotiate with Hamas - whose assumption of the governorship of Palestine is labelled a coup by the US media, despite arising from a more peaceful and democratic electoral process than that Iraq. And that's ignoring Israel's ILLEGAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS, a crime for which Arab nations would be invaded. Rev. Wright is absolutely correct - American foreign policy DID lead to the attacks of 9/11. Michelle Obama is absolutely correct - America IS mean. If you believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim, and see this as a reason not to vote for him, you are a bigot.

-The ridiculous assumptions the Hugo Chavez, the most popular politician in South America is an anti-American dictator. Let's get this one straight - Hugo Chavez has been repeatedly elected with overwhelming electoral majorities because he puts his country and people ahead of the multinationals that try to exploit it and other developing nations. Yes - Chavez is an authoritarian, who possesses quite dangerous levels of power, but more than anything else, this is a reflection of his popular support. He has not simply assumed this power himself - it has been vested in him. The most outrageous accusations that have been levelled at him concern his closing down of a critical television station. In some countries, this would be outrageous - one cannnot simply suppress somebody's criticisms of one. But most reasonable rulers would try to snuff out a station that actively sponsored a putsch and assassination attempt against them. Chavez's criticisms of Bush, though perhaps a little strongly worded, are always right on the money. They aren't attacks on America, just on the corporate elite that controls it, and that Chavez has fought against so hard in his own country. There are many things about this man that concern me - particularly his relationship with China, but I hope that he continues to do good work for his own people.

Posted by: Christopher Nimmo | May 26, 2008 7:02 AM

The thin-skinned empty suit Obama strikes again. Anyone who would mistake Rodham's comment about the RFK assassination as anything more than a reference to a historical fact is really stretching spin a bit too far, or is indeed very paranoid.

Posted by: BlueMax372 | May 26, 2008 7:07 AM

To all who have respectfully posted,

Even Robert Kennedy's son realized what she meant-- and she had stated this before. At this point and time, to have the Axelrod media and major media outlets stream the "analogy possibility" of inference- that Clinton is staying in the race so the extremely remote chance of Senator Obama's demise would play into her receiving the Democratic Nomination is even lower than I'd hope to hear coming from the major outlets; then having the Obama campaign 'forgive her for her careless comment' is shameful.
Here's the discussion from CNN (which obviously few individuals read before stating their inflammatory comments here):

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Clinton explains RFK assassination reference
Story Highlights
NEW: Obama says Clinton was merely "careless" after long campaign
Clinton references Robert Kennedy assassination in remarks to editorial board
She says later that she regrets if comments were considered offensive
Clinton made a similar remark to Time magazine in March
From Peter Hamby
CNN Political Producer

BRANDON, South Dakota (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton said Friday that she regretted comments that evoked the June 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy as part of her explanation for why she was staying in the presidential race late into the primary season.
Earlier Friday afternoon, she told the editorial board of the Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Argus Leader that "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said.
Clinton complained that "people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa" and said that position "historically ... makes no sense."

Later at an event in Brandon, South Dakota, she said, "Earlier today, I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Sen. Kennedy waged in California in June in 1992 and 1968, and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nominating primary contests that go into June. That's an historic fact." Watch more of Clinton's comments to the editorial board »

"The Kennedys have been much on my mind in the last days because of Sen. [Edward] Kennedy, and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever," Clinton added.

During an interview with Radio Isla Puerto Rico on Saturday, Obama reacted to the Clinton comment.

According to a quote released by the campaign, he said, "I have learned that when you are campaigning for as many months as Sen. Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make, and I think that is what happened here. Sen. Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it, and I will take her at her word on that."

On Friday, the campaign said in a statement, "Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."
Her campaign first defended the remarks, saying the New York senator had been making a historical parallel.

"She was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 of historical examples of the nominating process going well into the summer. Any reading into it beyond that is inaccurate and outrageous," Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said.
Kennedy, the brother of slain President John F. Kennedy, was shot and killed just moments after claiming victory in the California primary in 1968.

Friday night, Kennedy's son, Robert Kennedy, Jr., released a statement that said he understands the point Clinton was making and said it would be a mistake to be offended.
"I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard-fought through June," he said. "I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

Also Friday, the Clinton campaign released a statement from Randell Beck, the newspaper's executive editor, saying Clinton was answering a question about whether her continued campaigning threatens party unity so close to the Democratic convention.
"Her reference to Mr. Kennedy's assassination appeared to focus on the timeline of his primary candidacy and not the assassination itself," Beck said in the statement.

Clinton's campaign manager, Maggie Williams, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that people may have "misinterpreted what she meant."

"It was clear to anybody watching her this afternoon that she was ... deeply regretful, and people did not understand the context in which she made this reference, and so I think that she immediately, as soon as she could, spoke out to express her regret for ... perhaps the way that she had spoken or the people had misinterpreted what she meant," Williams said.

Clinton made a similar reference to Robert Kennedy in a March interview with Time magazine Managing Editor Richard Stengel, saying she could not envision a scenario in which party leaders would step in and call for the race to end..
"I think people have short memories," she said then. "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual."
All three candidates have Secret Service protection.
Clinton, the former first lady, has had agents guarding her since her husband's administration; Obama was assigned a protective detail in May 2007; and presumed Republican nominee Sen. John McCain agreed to accept Secret Service protection in April.
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I find it ironic that Time magazine editors (who are Pro-Obama) failed to notify other major media outlets (besides CNN) of the interview Clinton gave in March- verifying her sincere use of the example along with her husband's campaign in order to respectfully reduce the outcry that has been in the media for over 48 hours now. The Obama camp is loving this I'm sure....
Regarding the questions of who played the 'Race Card', please review the following article (too long to provide here):

http://www.thecityedition..com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/PDFfiles/2008Election.pdf

Lastly, my disappointment with the Obama campaign is in the slander of Senator Clinton regarding the honest comments which had NO inference to the Illinois Senator; Senator Obama gets TV time to 'attack' the statement and say that it's a 'careless comment' from Senator Clinton due to a long campaign - I term this in line with several other instances as the Audiacity of Arrogance; In light of Senator McCain's situation, Senator Obama now reaps the benefit of not having to worry about the Wright controversy as much; the media researched two pastors with controversial personal beliefs that had endorsed Senator McCain. The GOP cannot raise this issue without Axelrod countering with his conglomerate:

http://www.nbc4.com/news/15616529/detail.html

Clever, but how does one campaign now, or in the general election? I've been a lifelong Democrat and I will NOT consider McCain in the general election, however I'll be hard pressed to vote for the Democratic apprentice who claimed to have not wanted anything more than being a mayor in Illinois or a member within the Illinois legislature. After the 2004 speech, the presidential aspirations became more transparent and Senator Obama was 'taught' by none other than Kennedy, Kerry and Clinton (each helped in getting him elected in the Senate). Had Senator Obama TRIED to save Maytag jobs that were downsized in his state (Lester Crown and his family benefited though and gladly contributed a great deal to his campaign), or tried to improve the poor conditions of the apartments that were owned by his friend Tony Rezko in Illinois, then I would reconsider my casting my vote towards him. I only wonder how can we consider such brevity in record for the United States Presidency (literally since there are no scheduling/diary records of the Senator while in legislative office; where are they? Senator Clinton provided some records, and the tax results prior to PA primaries- though they earned 109M in 7 years, I applaud their contributions to charity- they were slightly above 10%. I didn't see such percentages reached with either other presidential candidate- but correct me if I'm mistaken)?

Posted by: ConsiderChange | May 26, 2008 7:10 AM

Congratulations to the smug limousine liberals, conspiratorial blacks, and foul-mouthed college-educated bloggers. You will get your wish: a candidate who will do as well as Dukakis did in the general election in 1988. For you history-challenged Obama supporters that means states won you can count on two hands.

Posted by: Mike 46 | May 26, 2008 7:15 AM

The Clintons are trying to force the DNC @ Obama to place her on the ticket as VP. All this BS is about HILL/BILL wanting to steal the election and if that does not work, steal the Presedency!! I would not put anything pass them given what they have done so far..
America would be better off if we had a a change away from the power jumkies like Bush and Clintons given all their baggage and political agendas. We can all blame Bill&Hill for the loss of jobs due to NAFTA and we know they had plans of doing the same in South America. These people have revealed what they are...
We deserve a leader who will choose his running mate and offer the kind of vision and leadership that will help us undo the policies of the past. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, OUR SOCIETY IS IN TROUBLE AS WE CONTINUE TO BE ADDICTED TO OIL. JUST WAIT AND SEE HOW THIS IMPACTS OUR HEATING SEASON IN NOVEMBER!! THE CLINTONS ARE SELF CENTERED AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET IN POWER AS EVIDENCED BY THEIR TALK AND CAMPAIGN

Posted by: savoymt | May 26, 2008 7:25 AM

post by 'THE REAL TRUTH'.............

">>>THIS #3 ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!

Good find John.

I can't believe America. The birthplace of freedom for Godsakes, is about to potentially elect a fraud with communist ties and a muslim background as president of the free world!

What are we thinking people! We are about to make a bigger mistake than when GWB got a 2nd term!

Farrahakan? Wright? The Weather Ungerground? Resko? Countless other questionable associates? Where will it end?

We've got to pursue everything, and I mean everything, to ensure this nut job doesn't get into the White House.

Posted by: The Real Truth | May 25, 2008 5:36 PM""

QUESTION TO SO CALLED 'THE REAL TRUTH'...DO YOU INCLUDE ASSASSINATION WHEN YOU MEAN "EVERYTHING"..? Choose your words carefully.....

Posted by: mark | May 26, 2008 7:27 AM

Carmen Paglia had noted in a piece on Drudge even before the flap occurred that the Clinton Campaign seemed to be ghoulishly hoping that something would happen to derail the Obama nomination. They had nothing else to hang their hats on. On Meet the Press yesterday, Meecham, the editor of Newsweek, noted the same thing; they were hoping for a cataclysm of some sort, because the nominating math was completely against them. In which case, noted Gwen Ifill, why not suspend your campaign and re-enter if something untoward happened. In other words, why not be decent about it? Instead they're blaming the Obama camp!!! Others have observed - without anyone's prompting - that in Washington a "gaffe" is when you speak the truth by accident. You're dealign then with an unintentional but very pregnant slip. Should Obama or the Obama campaign bear the responsibility for this???

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 7:33 AM

and this post....

"Here's hoping Barack does get the JFK treatment. America will be better off for it.

Posted by: BHO is a criminal | May 25, 2008 5:57 PM"

You should be more careful 'BHO is a criminal' , you are one foot forward to the criminal offence of inciting homicide...critical thinking is a key element that whackos like you simply do not have.

Posted by: mark | May 26, 2008 7:34 AM

Grace posted
"I'm a Hillary supporter who will be voting for McCain in the Fall. And I know many others who feel the same way. Obama is a divisive candidate. HE has divided us. And if he and his supporters think that Hillary's supporters will just fall in line. Think again. We will be throwing our support to John McCain.
Posted by: grace | May 25, 2008 6:07 PM"

Even though i feel sick thinking about voting for Hills i would when it comes to voting for McCain who would send more of our young men to their death in a pointless war. Get over your emotions, take a cold shower and start breathing again.

Posted by: mark | May 26, 2008 7:38 AM

Reading through these comments it's clear that the the Clintons, now playing the victim card, have succeeded in so dividing the Democratic Party that we will lose to a Republican, even after the most disastrous presidency in history. It's clear that the Clintons, if they can't win back the White House, will sabotage Obama's chances so that she can run again in 2012. Well, if that happens, I think she may be in for a surprise.

The Clintons always put their own political success before any principle. This is why Hillary voted to support the Iraq War Resolution, this is why Bill Clinton signed the Welfare Bill and the Defense of Marriage Act. They are willing to subject the country to an extension of the Iraq war, probable war with Iran, more far right supreme court judges, and a Republican nominee who supports the far right anti-choice platform plank if it means she will have another shot in 2012. The Clintons are a cancer on the Democratic Party. God help us!

Posted by: Markhax | May 26, 2008 7:38 AM

To Sen Clinton:

I don't buy your crap for one second. Even now, you can't bring yourself to apologize. All you can do is justify your comment and try to rationalize it in a way that makes no sense whatsoever. Why is it you can NEVER apologize? Why? Is your pride that great? You honestly thought you would win this by Feb 5 (as you stated in Dec 2007). There was no doubt in your mind that you would win this, guess this is plan B of how you can win.

First of all, let's be clear about this. Your intention is quite clear. otherwise your analogy MAKES NO SENSE. If your trying to imply that past primaries were quite long and didn't end until June your being very disingenuous. In 1968, the primaries did not begin until MID-MARCH, you know that damn well. You could have cited other primaries in which they had been protracted, but you didn't. On THREE separate occasions, you made reference to this. Why? I'll tell you why. Your a MONSTER and monster's say monstrous things.

Posted by: Monica | May 26, 2008 7:39 AM

Political ambitions make strange bedfellows. The only reason Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. endorsed Hillary Clinton for President is because he wants her NY senate seat. Hillary Clinton has revealed to the world a portrait of a person completely lacking all conscience and integrity. She is greedy, grasping and mentally unstable, ready to rewrite history distorting all facts we know to be true.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 7:43 AM

Jessica posted
"Its a smear campaign backfiring on him. white people don't want him.
Posted by: jessica | May 25, 2008 5:54 PM"

Do you also think America does not want Jesus? Jesus...a man born in the middle east to middle eastern parents....hardly pure 'white' boy now hey Jessica?

Ignore the colour of peoples skin folks..its really really OLD retarded thinking and pushes us back a 1000 years...from a white guy.

Posted by: mark | May 26, 2008 7:43 AM

Of course it was Obama's fault for Hillary letting her ID out of her mouth. The nobody with little funding and a small staff, beat her the mighty morphin Hillary machine using the same platform. How America can trust Obama more than Clinton has been a blow to her physche that has caused her recent flub. Her sub-conscious is giving her the only chance she has, Obama not being there. Sensible people will forgive this, but many have not been sensible in this election cycle.

Posted by: Jimbo | May 26, 2008 7:48 AM

The Primary has proven to be a replay of the Clinton Administration:

Grave errors of judgement were made;

Their goals were not accomplished; and

Blame for their failures was place on others;

End of story.

I have no problem with Hillary's staying in the race, being a Senator from New York or even, Senate majority Leader.

I do have problems with her attempts to change the DP's rules to suit her own interests and overturn the duly accredited popular vote; and

I also have problems with over-reacting Obama supports that will make unifying the party more difficult after Obama has consolidated his Primary accomplishments and become the DP candidate for the Presidency of the USA.

I strongly suggest Obama supporters follow his example and finish this Primary with confidence, clarity and good will. Once Hillary accepts her role in the Senate and the Party she will become a valuable and needed ally.

Posted by: dhinds | May 26, 2008 7:49 AM

This is just another example of the Obama supporters Swift Boating Hillary again. Lying about what she said and twisting it until it is unrecognizable from her actual words, context and meaning. Even the editors at the interview said that her comment was only about a June primary time line. The ObamaNation is evil, evil, evil. We saw them Swift Boat Hillary before regarding the MLK/LBJ comment. If you don't want to have more Rove tactics shoved down your throat don't vote for Obama. Anybody but Obama.

Posted by: agail | May 26, 2008 7:50 AM

Now Let me get this right, The racist whites would rather vote for McCain than a Black Man, even if it means they will cont. to lose their homes, and pay more for everything, including gas, food etc. Now I understand why it is the uneducated,and poor that's against OBAMA.

Posted by: Paulett | May 26, 2008 7:53 AM

All of you still supporting Hillary at the pleasure of Tush Limbaugh, if McCain wins are responsible for the deaths of more American soldiers.

Stop sucking in the lies and think for yourselves.

The primary she referenced was number 13 the year RFK was murdered.

You're fools, probably uneducated ones going by the Clinton Demographic, supporting a troll who will say anything. Get over yourselves and get behind someone with class.

Posted by: Carly | May 26, 2008 7:55 AM

I'm a Hillary supporter who will be voting for McCain in the Fall. And I know many others who feel the same way. Obama is a divisive candidate. HE has divided us. And if he and his supporters think that Hillary's supporters will just fall in line. Think again. We will be throwing our support to John McCain.


Posted by: grace | May 25, 2008 6:07 PM

That's feminine "logic" for you. Grow up. I hope you vote for McSlime and need an abortion in the future. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 7:59 AM

I hope they're able to get Hillary the much needed care she's gonna need when she finally concedes. Poor Chelsea......she's gonna have to look after her bitter, demented mother because Bill is SO outta there.

Posted by: Miranda | May 26, 2008 8:03 AM

Hillary's campaign is an insult to our intelligence. The hypocrisy of it is so astounding that I'm amazed she has any supporters left at all.

After the way she has provoked controversy with her "kitchen sink" strategy, jumped on every opportunity to exploit any gaffe from Obama or any crap dredged up by GOP research, she's got to have zero conscience to accuse Obama's campaign of stirring up controversy over her remarks.

As for RFK Jr., I wonder where his endorsement is today? If he's like many early endorser's, he's changed his mind or at least is thinking about it after the dirty, lying, Rovian, disgusting campaign tactics of Clinton and her minions. It's raw ambition, and she'll do anything, including destroy the Democratic party, to win it.

Posted by: William W. Wexler | May 26, 2008 8:09 AM

The problem with Senator Clinton's allegation is that she thinks we're all stupid and that if she contends that she has been victimized often enough and loud enough that she will somehow convince the voting public that she is indeed a victim of Senator Obama's campaign rather than that inept farce she has been running since Iowa.

What amazes me is how the Clinton campaign continues to choose the gutter rather than higher ground. I have wondered if her supporters had been less rah rah and perhaps questioned her choices earlier, if they could have gotten her back on track. There is no doubt if she had chosen to run an ethical honorable campaign that she would have given Obama a real run for his money. Instead her supporters have also embraced victimization as her campaign mantra. Progressive and Feminist credentials have been kicked to the curb as these women deliver up what has got to be the most high profile poor- me mantra one has heard in a very long time.

As for the truth about why she used the statement about Robert Kennedy's assassination. I watched that interview and there were several beats after Hillary mentioned the assassination, when you could see she had realized that the statement was repulsive. I don't know if she saw it in the eyes of her interviewers or if she realized how awful it was on her own, but she recognized it was a bad choice of words at that moment. But Hillary is a talker, and her arrogance is she believes she can talk herself out of a bad spot if she talks long enough. It is the public's reaction that she seems to never gauge correctly these days. But I believe the Clintons feel you throw it up there and if it works, great and if it doesn't they will apologize...if they are forced to.

Once we rejected her latest "tedious" apology she went on the offensive. Her bloggers are busy online. Their new tactic is to say that they are Obama supporters, and they really didn't see Senator Clinton's statement as anything other than the recitation of fact. Ha!

She continues to make all the wrong decisions in this campaign.

Posted by: anghiari | May 26, 2008 8:10 AM

Again, she takes no blame for her words and the fact that he says it's unfortunate and takes her at her word that she didn't mean as it sounds. I heard it was shocked. Any American who heard it was shocked. She needs to use different June analogies.

I can't wait till June 4.

Posted by: Renee | May 26, 2008 8:12 AM

Hillary, just like her husband is a liar who is incapable of telling the truth and her supporters are either too bind, deaf and dumb to recognize her BS or they are too racist to care

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 8:13 AM

Referring to the previous post, I find it hard to believe that after 7 years any American still falls for the faux news propaganda. Obama is not a Mulim, never was, and apart from his former pastor, has no relationship with the other persons on that list. now let us try to look at McCain's lobbyist contacts. That is the real story, since they have bribed him every which way to do their bidding

Posted by: olenska | May 26, 2008 8:13 AM

Every day or so she says something more and more offensive, this one stopped me dead in my tracks causing me to be afraid, creeped out. If the superdelegates think this is good for this party then this is a party I don't recognize.It is time for a third party

Posted by: m rogers | May 26, 2008 8:14 AM

It's not only the Obamas who are adding gasoline to the fire! It is the "talking heads" who should be blamed with their tiring spinning. There is nothing good that Senator Clinton can do: whatever she says is transformed in something negative. I am sick and tired of the calls for her to step down. This is a democracy and she should run until the end!
If Obama is the nominee, MCain will be President.

Posted by: Galarce | May 26, 2008 8:17 AM

You people are idiots this is the most ridicules thing I have ever read. You've got to be S**Ting me Please before you start quoting the Constitution make sure you know how it applies. This is just like somebody reading the bible and making you our interaption of its meaning. Also this birth place of Freedom has a checkered pasted let us not forget slavery for every ethic group that has come in contact with White America lets see were do we start.
1) American Indian - Land stolen from them, placed on reservation, just over the last 15 years has the United States admitted that did something wrong still fighting to gain acceptance in their OWN COUNTRY.
2) African American - Brought here on slave ships , families torn apart , Men murdered , Black Women raped by their White Slave owners, Segregation, Not given the right to vote, Told it takes two Black Americans to make up one White American in order to Vote, the list goes on.
3) Asian Americans - Brought to this country to build the rail road & the Panama Canal a form of slavery.
4) Latino Americans - Allow to enter this country to be used as cheap labor , just another form of legalized slavery
This country has a look of Good about but is also has some bad things as well.
1) How and were do you get this idea that Obama is a communist do you even know what the word means
The Meaning of the word COMMUNIST
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.)

So please if you are not going to vote for him because you don't like him then fine but all this other crap is mindless dribble and has no place in this countries history


*******************************************
post by 'THE REAL TRUTH'.............

">>>THIS #3 ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!

Good find John.

I can't believe America. The birthplace of freedom for Godsakes, is about to potentially elect a fraud with communist ties and a muslim background as president of the free world!

What are we thinking people! We are about to make a bigger mistake than when GWB got a 2nd term!

Farrahakan? Wright? The Weather Ungerground? Resko? Countless other questionable associates? Where will it end?

We've got to pursue everything, and I mean everything, to ensure this nut job doesn't get into the White House.

Posted by: The Real Truth | May 25, 2008 5:36 PM""

QUESTION TO SO CALLED 'THE REAL TRUTH'...DO YOU INCLUDE ASSASSINATION WHEN YOU MEAN "EVERYTHING"..? Choose your words carefully.....

Posted by: mark | May 26, 2008 7:27 AM

Posted by: Really I Mean Really | May 26, 2008 8:17 AM

I also see that the people for Clintin and "their" American have the least amount in American, and they will kept it that way before they vote for a BLACK MAN. accept it, It Might be Known as the "BLACK HOUSE" shortly. I'm loving It!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Paulett | May 26, 2008 8:18 AM

How does Hillary have the unmitigated gall to blame Obama for the fallout for HER Freudian slip?

I continue to wish the DNC had stronger leaders. She needs to be reprimanded. She continues to divide the party. Had Hillary behaved like Mike Huckabee, I'm sure Obama would have wanted her on his ticket. But now with her "hardworking whites" remark, her self-serving civil rights speech on the FI and MI delegates, and her regretable comments about the possible assassination of a Democratic candidate, she's made it impossible to put her on the ticket.

Posted by: Seneca | May 26, 2008 8:18 AM

I am truly amazed at all the women who post 'they will support Hillary and if she doesn't win the nomination, they will vote for McCain'. I never knew Hillary was an anti-abortion, pro military, pro tax cuts for the wealthy candidate. Or is it just a case of biting off one's nose to spite their face?

Posted by: Taylor | May 26, 2008 8:18 AM

I, also am a Hillary supporter who WILL vote for anyone other than Obama in November. I know I do not stand alone. I am truly sick and tired of certain members of the media attacking Hillary since "day one" of her campaign. She doesn;t blink the right way for some of them. Olberman is that absolute worst. Yes, he may have done his research, and is well informed, but as a human being, he is the WORST!!!.

Hillary has had my support from "day one" and will continue to have it. I will not vote democrat if she is not the nominee. I will not be held responsible for putting Barack Hussein Obama on Pennsylvania Ave.

Know Obama.........NO OBAMA
NO HILLARY.........NO VOTE

Posted by: char19145 | May 26, 2008 8:19 AM

So Hillary is only running for the nasty old women of this great nation? How about the ENTIRE nation not just your demographic. I will never vote for her. I will not vote rather than give my approval to this power-hungry woman and her gang of thugs. I did respect Bill at one point. I supported him when everyone seemed to be against him but I have lost all respect for the man. Being a white man, 42 years old, Masters degree, and union member, I support Obama. He offers my generation ideas and solutions to America's problems. Ask yourself this - do you want a young, intelligent man, an old, angry man, or a women who feels the victim of sexism and never takes responsiblity for herself or her pathetic campaign.

Posted by: naughty nigel | May 26, 2008 8:22 AM

Bloody cheek of her!

Posted by: thisworld | May 26, 2008 8:23 AM

Is she serious? Everyone should contact the superdelegates and tell them to stop being scared and make the choice and end this. Obama is our nominee....lets make it official.

OBAMA 08

Posted by: ExClintonSupporter | May 26, 2008 8:23 AM

POLITICAL WATCHDOG:

He has produced a race gulf in this country that is not going to heel for some time. And he will destroy the Democratic Party in the end.

If Obama's candidacy destroys the Democratic party, then so be it. It would deserve to be destroyed. I am beyond a YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT. I am a flaming pile of dog poo democrat. I would vote for a flaming pile of dog poo before a republican. If this party cannot handle a brilliant,progressive black man as it's nominee, it's not the party I thought it was.

It's hillarious reading these unhinged commments from Hillary supporters. Half attack Obama for being soft, She's the tough fighter, he's an "elitist, effeminate, fill in the blank" and the other half castigate him for being an underhanded "street fighter thug".

Hillary is the one that began this race with a 100 super delegate lead. Clearly, the "party insiders" were behind her from the beginning. Obama assembled a superior team with a superior plan and buried her, plain and simple. All the whining about Michigan and Florida, and the "undemocratic" caucus states can't change reality. If Hillary is so damn great, where is her monetary support? Obama has beaten her in every facet of this campaign. Give it up. It's over.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 8:24 AM

wow!
So many Hillary supporters who are saying that they will vote AGAINST Obama, or write in "Hillary", etc...
I wonder who it was, exactly, that ever criticized ME for voting for Nader!
Couldn't be the same folks , could it?
As far as Hillary's RFK comment, it's TRUE!
Assassination is probablt the ONLY way to get Hillary out of this race!
Could someone schedule it for EARLY June, rather than mid-June?

Posted by: john Kramarz | May 26, 2008 8:27 AM

Obama's a "passive aggressive".....I'll assume you're more intelligent that that. Surely, these are the rants of someone who's never taken any courses in "psych" or is caught up in the ratings driven spin world of Alex Bennett.

Name one other time in history that a candidate brought up assassination in any context. This wasn't a conscious statement, but a Freudian view into a desperate world. Please explain why her surrogate previously stated that JFK got assassinated and left the work for LBJ, when previously asked about Obama's JFK-like appeal.

I urge you.......free your mind and you're a$s will follow.

Posted by: Thinking peson | May 26, 2008 8:28 AM

Char 19145 wrote: "I, also am a Hillary supporter who WILL vote for anyone other than Obama in November. I know I do not stand alone." It's good to know that you are a true Clintonian, faithful to their first political principle: the political power of the Clintons is the only thing that really matters, and any principle can be sacrificed to that. You are for Hillary, who, "as far as I know," is for ending the disastrous Iraq war, universal health care, and abortion rights for women, and appointing right-wing judges to the Supreme Court, yet you will vote for McCain, who holds the opposite positions and will subject your country to four more years of a Republican presidency, send more brave men and women to pointless death or disfigurement in Iraq. The only thing that really matters to you is that the Clintons have power. You are a true, blue Clintonian and I am sure Bill and Hillary would be proud of you.

Posted by: Markhax | May 26, 2008 8:32 AM

I'm so tired of her claiming sexism and then acting like she's the strongest woman in the world. As usual the Clintons want it both ways. And in reference to the comments by john invoking Constitution against Obama, do you have any idea the riff-raff that the Clintons have associated with in their political lifetime? Hillary Clinton is one of the most dishonest politicians in the game today She is right there with Bush, Cheney and Rove. I think she's shameful to the Democratic party.

Posted by: lisa | May 26, 2008 8:33 AM

The American public has seen and heard the remarks that Senator Clinton made in South Dakota over and over again. It is not the role of the MSM or the Clinton campaign to tell us how to interpret them. The selection of the words, the phrasing, and the connotations and context of her statement were all very clear and easily understood...and it was totally unnecessary and inappropriate to frame the reference to RFK's assassination to make the point she now claims she was making.

Ms. Clinton "accidentally spoke the truth" and to now blame the Obama campaign is unconscionable. Is this how she would run our country and deal with foreign leaders?

Posted by: Sekti | May 26, 2008 8:41 AM

The reason Robert Kennedy isn't upset is because the assassination reference was about Obama, who, by the way, has behaved like the complete gentleman and said he attributes the whole thing to campaign fatigue. I'm not quite sure how that can be considered fanning the flames of controversy?!

Please someone, medicate her !

Posted by: Stevie57 | May 26, 2008 8:43 AM

So many Hillary supporters dredge up a fiction that Obama is a Muslim.
Nauseating in 2 ways.
First, so what if he was?
I didn't see the Constitutional passage forbidding Islam in the US, or it's followers from holding office. I also was not aware that we were in some war against a billion people. In fact, we aren't in any war at all since WWII, if you read the Constitution. I haven't seen any Declaration of War passed in Congress!
As a Roman Catholic, I take special offense, as this same mindset was vocal against JFK!
It's no coincidence that if you count the number of Catholic presidents we have had, and your hand will likely look like a gun.

Posted by: Muslim insult! | May 26, 2008 8:44 AM

Typical hillary: blame everyone but herself.

Posted by: Rich P. From Princeton | May 26, 2008 8:44 AM

This is the equivalent of someone making a remark that offends a minority group, then saying that the minority group had no reason to be upset and are actually the ones at fault for being offended. "Of course we would never say anything to offend xyz group, and for them to say they were offended - well they are obviously trying to twist and use this remark for political advantage". I'll have to remember this disingenuous argument if I ever stick my foot in my mouth.

Posted by: Mhowe | May 26, 2008 8:50 AM

Hillary will say anything and so will Bill who needs him chasing woman and voicing his opinion in the White House-- Think about it--Both of them point and shake their finger and make their eyes big and boogie - like more of the scared you better be just like the Republican party does after all she WAS a Republican and uses Republican tactics all the way---nice my foot-- straight shots and beer chasers thats her

Posted by: C McShane | May 26, 2008 8:51 AM

This is a "close race"??

Those people are delusional, completely severed from reality.

We're going to need a BIG team of psychiatrists after this is finished next month.

Posted by: Eric | May 26, 2008 8:51 AM

Hillary Clinton - Sigmund Freud's poster child for psychoanalysis...

Posted by: samiam | May 26, 2008 8:53 AM

HRC is a sociopath who has invited every nut job in this country to do a job for her. She is calculated and knows exactly what she said and why she said it. People need to stop letting the Clintons get away with this bull crap and put an end to this. HRC only cares about her legacy as the first woman president and what is funny is she is using other women to get this. She couldn't care less about women or she would have left bill years ago when he first started abusing women. Then again it goes along with everything she is. Whatever fits the situation and the state she is in?
Keith Olbermann said it all!
http://ak-elections2008.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Mem | May 26, 2008 8:54 AM

My question is...Since it's Memorial Day, will Bush do a TAPS dance at the Washington Memorial, and Will Hilary blame both world wars on Barack Obama...

Posted by: Folksinger | May 26, 2008 8:58 AM

And you ladies call this women your "HERO"...damn..horrid women..

Obama 08

Posted by: Shane | May 26, 2008 8:59 AM

FROM GALARCE: It's not only the Obamas who are adding gasoline to the fire! It is the "talking heads" who should be blamed with their tiring spinning. There is nothing good that Senator Clinton can do: whatever she says is transformed in something negative. I am sick and tired of the calls for her to step down. This is a democracy and she should run until the end!
If Obama is the nominee, MCain will be President.

If you Hillary Stepford voters do that to our boys in the field... you have their blood on your hands.

She's a loser and a skank and Saturday Night Live and Olberman got her right.

BUT, as much as I don't like her I'm not so filled with unintelligent hate that I would vote for McCain over her. I think more of our people in uniform who are dying for no reason than to lower myself for that. But, I'm not worried, if nothing else, this put the nail in her coffin. I'm glad she's this stupid and ignorant.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 9:01 AM

I didn't say "I" was gonna shoot him, only that someone "might" shoot him.

LOL my bad!

Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Hillary Clinton | May 26, 2008 9:01 AM

So, I can see her having a meeting, for example, with the president of Poland, about NATO affairs. Maybe the meeting will be in October, let's say,
On her way to the meeting, she get's out of the car during a heavy rain, and gets soaked. She jokes about the seasonal rains in Poland, and says "Well, I just wasn't prepared I guess, and we all remember the Fall of '39 when the seasonal rains didn't come, and the Polish Calvary got creamed by Panzers that were not stuck in mud fields! haha!"
I wonder, around the world, how many opportunities she can have to make historical insults.

Also, her first comment about Bill clinching the nomination in June. Any Hillary supporters see a disconnect in the logic of comparing '92 to '08??
California was in June, right? like N Jersey, and so many other states, back in '92. But in 08. everyone voted EARLY, so JUNE of 92 has little relevance to JUNE of 08 !
That is a flaw of critical thinking.
It expresses an undesirable trait in a leader. she fails.
President Obama will be much smarter than that!
What a change to have an intelligent president!

Posted by: President Hillary | May 26, 2008 9:02 AM

That's why I hated to see a woman run for President. (I am a woman, by the way). When we don't win, we are so childish. Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn. Some of you women say you would vote for McCain before you would vote for Obama. Some of you women say Obama divided this Party. Some of you say Obama has twisted her words. I guess you did not read the blogs or watch TV when "bitter-gate" broke the news. I guess you missed all of Hillary's speeches when she pounced all over it and painted Obama as an elitist. Hillary has said that caucus states don't hold democratic elections and certain states don't count. Hillary has said that she is the only one who can get the working American votes...the white American vote. Hillary is the one who has turned race against race, state against state and women against women. And now she stands, surrounded by her supporters, holding them hostage unless she gets on the ticket. Yep, you should be real proud of yourselves and your candidate.

Posted by: sherbug | May 26, 2008 9:05 AM

Thank God this campaign is nearly over. There are way too many nuts becoming exposed over this whole affair.

At least one person is happy about all of this: McCain.

Posted by: rick | May 26, 2008 9:06 AM

Posted by: Ignatz Horowitz | May 26, 2008 9:07 AM

When Senator Obama got all the flack from the pundits for "bittergate", Senator Clinton joined in the chorus of relentless criticism of him. What did Obama do? He agreed he misspoke and owned up to his mistake.

When Hillary Clinton implies that she's staying in the race because something like an assassination (RFK reference) could end Obama's life and campaign, what does she do when millions of Obama supporters are outraged? She blames Obama--even though Senator Obama made a statement that he was not offended.

Given the racial bigotry we still face in this nation, given the fact that the Clintons and their surrogates are fomenting racism at every turn in their campaign, given the fact that Obama has needed secret service protection because of threats to his life, her statement was not only insensitive, it was dangerous and destructive.

Just like her vote for the Iraq war, Senator Clinton is incapable of admitting she made a grave mistake. Instead of owning up to her horrendous statement, she blames her opponent. Senator Clinton is sounding and acting more and more like George W. Bush every day.

Posted by: Resa Harrison | May 26, 2008 9:07 AM

"as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

Fits half of the present Congress and Senate for the actions statements and actions including numnut Jimmy Carter add a few Hollywood types and they are all guilty of aiding and abetting the Enemy.

Posted by: last american standing | May 26, 2008 9:10 AM

Hopefully Hillarroid has done us all a service here by driving a stake through her own black heart.
Oops. I misspoke...

Posted by: Bungler | May 26, 2008 9:10 AM

Keep it up, Hillary, and watch your numbers plummet.

Posted by: jiomb | May 26, 2008 9:10 AM

I get a strong sense that at least a few of the loudest self-professed Hillary supporters are nothing of the kind. They're just seizing an opportunity to sew discord among Democrats and spew hatred at Obama.

In the meantime, If Hillary wants to blame anyone for her dumb-as-a-stump RFK reference,she should start with the mirror.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 9:12 AM

Fits half of the present Congress and Senate for the actions statements and actions including numnut Jimmy Carter add a few Hollywood types and they are all guilty of aiding and abetting the Enemy.

Minus that little inconvenience to the Neo-con Nazis: THE FIRST AMENDMENT! Even insanity gets a fair amount of protection.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 9:13 AM

I am a 69 year old white woman who constantly wears an Obama tee shirt or campaign button. I was in my home state of Alabama attending a music festival this weekend with my Obama paraphernalia and an elderly white man manning a craft booth told me that as much as he loved Obama, he wouldn't vote for him if he chose Hillary as a running mate. I told him of Friday's gaffe regarding Bobby Kennedy. He was astounded. ""She was appealing to those lunatics out there," he said. I wonder myself.

Posted by: Mary Mansour | May 26, 2008 9:14 AM

"They've taken a truthful and honest statement by Hillary and turned it around to vilify Hillary for their own good."

Hmmm, sounds like Hil is getting a dose of her own medicine! Remember the "bitter" comments? We all know that Obama didn't use the right words but he wasn't lying, either. But Hillary swooped in on that comment for WEEKS and distorted and maligned Obama with them. God don't like ugly, and Hil has run a REALLY ugly campaign. Karma is a b****: what goes around comes around.

Posted by: TellItLikeItIs1 | May 26, 2008 9:14 AM

Terry McAuliffe is on planet KoolAid. Watch him squirm when the drink wears off and he realizes how many bridges he's burned.

Posted by: Admiral Laidlaw | May 26, 2008 9:15 AM

The Hillary supporters on here who are suggesting that Obama should be shot, such as HillBill, (and there are several more of them, are nut jobs!!
I lived through the pain of the assasinations and would never wish that upon our nation again. I detest Bush, but would never wish that upon him.

Such comments display a total lack of intellegence, compassion, or understanding.
I hope none of you have children, for I would wish that such ignorance not be propogated in our world.

Posted by: easyenough | May 26, 2008 9:15 AM

I cannot believe how the media is now running with this story to blame Obama for HRC gaffe, SHe said they NY Post wrote a story and they pointed it out. How soon we forget how the Clintons took the bitter comments and plastered it all over with the media and even in their attack ads. Give me a break she has said this before and it is her only hope to get the nomination.

Posted by: Rick | May 26, 2008 9:15 AM

"Last American Standing" [lol] wrote, re the 14th amendment: "Fits half of the present Congress and Senate for the actions statements and actions including numnut Jimmy Carter add a few Hollywood types and they are all guilty of aiding and abetting the Enemy."

I trust you include Bush and Cheney in this group? After all Bush has been Al Qaeda's top recruiter. He should be getting a commission, or at least a discount on Saudi oil! And his Iraq fiasco has made Iran the dominant power in the region. Talk of aiding and abetting the enemy! An all out of arrogance, ignorance, and incompetence--a deadly combination.

Posted by: Markhax | May 26, 2008 9:16 AM

Hillary Clinton's remarks were offensive to say the least, then her lack of an apology to Senator Obama and his family, were equally offensive, now she has her staff saying she didn't say anything wrong, and are blaming Obama, again offensive and downright horrible. She just should of immediately apologized to Obama for the remark, a simple I am sorry would have at least showed her personal decency. However, she chose the other way. This week she was also blaming the press of sexism. I find this offensive again. It appears that her personal integrity dictates that when she is wrong and losing to blame other people and not take responsibility for herself. She has used race, gender, and has been disingenuous throughout her whole campaign. I especially took offensive how she was disingenuous with uneducated white woman, and her husband was equally disingenuous. As a woman myself, I am appalled at her behavior, great woman who want to lead act on principle and integrity and their strong convictions to issues. They take responsibility for their actions because Great Women have personal integrity. Sorry to say Hillary does not have these qualities. Her family and friends need to tell her it's over, the longer she goes on the longer the public is viewing these very bad qualities and her future in politics is diminishing, if anyone would want her after this. Her hopes of now even a VP slot is over. How could any President have a VP that he wouldn't be able to trust what she was going to say? Additionally, she does not fit in with Obama's message, that is clear. The delegates have to shut this campaign down now.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 9:17 AM

Hillary has yet to explain why the RFK reference was relevant to her discussion of why she was staying in the race. BUT there is no HONORABLE explanation. She has no integrity. She is not worthy of votes. She is not worthy of respect. She insulted the Kennedys and the voters and Obama. She gives WOMEN a bad name.

Posted by: Diane | May 26, 2008 9:18 AM

Also Clinton should not apologize to Obama what a bunch of arrogant people in that campaign, she should have apologized to the Obama's before anyone else. How could they not think that it looked like she wish ill will to happen to Barack or his family. She is a heartless liar who as Keith Oberland said should never be president.

Posted by: Rick | May 26, 2008 9:19 AM

Isn't it funny that her minions are saying he was wrong to jump on this?? I wonder if they felt this same way when he said the bitter comment.

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008 9:19 AM

Anonymous wrote: "I get a strong sense that at least a few of the loudest self-professed Hillary supporters are nothing of the kind. They're just seizing an opportunity to sew discord among Democrats and spew hatred at Obama."

Duh! But of course, that must be it! They are dittoheads, egged on by Rush Limbaugh. One wonders, how many of the faithful followed his advice and crossed over to vote for Hillary?

Posted by: Markhax | May 26, 2008 9:20 AM

The Clinton campaign advisors are deflecting attention from Hillary's comment by throwing the bone back to Obama. She said what she said, she regretted it, and Obama quite openly understood her point, albeit, her reasoning was very abstract and convoluted.

Now the pundits, the papers, the television news media are drawing their Monday Morning Quarterbacking conclusions like a group of hungry teamsters hunkered over a picnic table full of steamed crabs, cracking and sucking every morsel for their delight.

Obama's campaign people have been very sensitive to this matter and when probed for comment, reluctant to add vinegar and Old Bay Spice to each morsel the news media was inhaling.

Bottom line is simple, she said it, she apologized, she will likely never forget that she said it. She is not a puppet, she is a candidate for president and she misspoke herself.

With such a gluttonous press at the heels of every word spoken, waiting for the next analogy, the next abstract comment, it doesn't surprise me how running for president is more like a marathon that never ends.

Perhaps Hillary should have listened instead of speaking, meaning that, had she conceded the race a few weeks ago, she might have salvaged more respectability and prominence. Returning to the Senate as #36 of 49 Senators is going to be a tough act.

Posted by: Geogib | May 26, 2008 9:22 AM

Some comments were made about Clinton supporters writing in her vote and disapproving of their Nader vote. A candidate that won a Nobel prize on your top issue was hurt by your candidacy and votes (cost Gore the election). Clinton supporters whose candidate lost to Obama with a 90% congruent platform voting for McCain or writing in Hillary is ignorance and spite at its' worst apex. Stupid is as stupid does and stupid is expecting a different result with the same platform because a war hero proposes it. America better wake up or we will fall economically, then militarily.

Posted by: Nader fools voted for a fool | May 26, 2008 9:22 AM

One core truth of Democracy is the peaceful transfer of power. The opposite core represents assassination. That is the way of the Hunta, the rouge government or the coup of despots.

To bring assassination into the election dialogue undermines Democracy. Senator Clinton made a grave error by suggesting such violence would open the door for her election. If her proposition were to become self-fulfilling, she would become, indeed, that despot.

Posted by: Dr. Marti Hunsucker | May 26, 2008 9:26 AM

Realtruth - your venom, fear-mongering, and ridculous "monologue" with yourself is a fitting tribute to "those" you proclaim to speak to and for. I am a grey beard born during WWII, an elec engineer, an Af Am, and a former HRC supporter. She lost, he won, and you choose to define all of his supporters as idiots. I think you should immediately make an appointment with a shrink and get some help. It would be a shame for you to allow your vitriol to cause you to self-destruct. In any event, I'll be praying for you and your quick return to good health.

Posted by: AtlantaBill | May 26, 2008 9:28 AM

"Anonymous wrote: "I get a strong sense that at least a few of the loudest self-professed Hillary supporters are nothing of the kind. They're just seizing an opportunity to sew discord among Democrats and spew hatred at Obama."

Duh! But of course, that must be it! They are dittoheads, egged on by Rush Limbaugh. One wonders, how many of the faithful followed his advice and crossed over to vote for Hillary?"

Typical Obama supporter arrogance to believe that it's impossible for real Democrats to detest your candidate and loathe what his campaign has done.

Posted by: prettierthanyou | May 26, 2008 9:29 AM

Please....how many times has Hillary taken the chance to stab Obama in the back? When asked if she thought he was a Muslim she wouldn't just say no, instead she said he would have to speak for himself. At that last debate (if you can even call it that.....it ws more of a lynching) he covered her back while she continued to stab him in his. She is so vile there isn't a word for her. Obama and his campaign did not inflame the issue. How does she explain every other intelligent American being outraged? (Oh, except fdor her supporters) She is a whiner who can never take the blame for her "mis-speaks" and who certainly doesn't know how to sy "I'm sorry" "I was wrong" It's always somebody eles fault. Guess what....she always acts just like a WOMAN! I'm white, female and 59. I find no redeeming qualities in her at all.

Posted by: Cheryl | May 26, 2008 9:29 AM

When Jane Harman says: "Obama clearly has the momentum. I am a proud Hillary delegate. But I predict the race will be over soon." You know the end is near. All Hillary supporters should coalesce around unity and healing. Stop this mad effort before it ends her career. Forget the presidency. She's going to end up with a challenge in New York if she doesn't back out "gracefully" now. We don't want to be rememebered as the Ralph Naders of 2008.

Posted by: Longtime Clintonista | May 26, 2008 9:30 AM

Robert Kennedy doesn't find it offensive because you have him where you want him, waiting to take your senate spot, but the rest of us find it offensive. and it shows how low breed the clinton's really are, no low is low enough. and they never accept full responsibility for their actions.

Posted by: David Macnab | May 26, 2008 9:30 AM

Even your headline is grossly biased. It should read "Axelrod Refuses to Accept Responsibility for Fanning the Flames of RFK Reference".

Shame on you. But, who cares? Clinton supporters won't forget the treachery of the Obama campaign, the DNC and a complicit media.

Reporters need to understand that passing off opinion as news will offend readers. Readers vote with their pocketbooks. There's a direct line between readership and your salaries. What's the trend these days in readership?

Posted by: Cathy | May 26, 2008 9:31 AM

Hillary's bush has a republican stench!

Posted by: HILLARY CLINTON 2012 | May 26, 2008 9:32 AM

To all you Clintons supporters and espicailly my sister Tina who think if Clinton get the nomination that African Americans will just vote for her you are misguided i promise you the black will stay home like never before and this country will go back to the pre civil rights days. Now to sit up here and try to blame someone else for the remarks that clinton made is ridiculus , she knew excatly what she was doing and that was playing on the fears of those who are scared for obama's safety . If she was a true women she would suspend her campaign and if something did happen she can reopen it . But she is selfish and think we owe her this nomination and thats not the case she ran a bad campaign and people are tired of the Clintons and Bushes and we want change and we want it NOW. I find it out right carzy that racism, lies and Im going to say and do whatever possible is being used by hillary and her supporters to get a nomination that she doesnt deserve.

Posted by: NUPE 06 | May 26, 2008 9:32 AM

"I am a 69 year old white woman who constantly wears an Obama tee shirt or campaign button. "

Go away. This isn't a dating service.

Posted by: prettierthanyou | May 26, 2008 9:34 AM

It's amazing to me how Hillary supporters see her as a saint and Obama as the bad guy. It just seems to be like it's been the other way around all the way. After her temper tantrum in Ohio, her 3 am phone call, Hillary's credibility went downhill from there and it got worse. She's too emotional, I don't want a President who reacts instead of thinks (like Bush).

You know what I don't your vote if you want to vote for McCain simply out of spite...if you have such poor judgment and you're bigots we don't want your vote. In fact, I'd rather have Obama lose the general out of dignity, then have people like you on his side.

McCain, by the way, has had a free ride, he is a horrible candidate, terrible speaker, no strong convictions, except anything military, he's the biggest flip-flopper of them all and the biggest sucker to lobbyists. He should be in charge of the military, but he's no President, he sees everything in a military perspective, and that's worse than Bush.

Obama will go get independents and disfranchised Republicans, and he'll have a great team behind him to support him and the Party and will rally true Democrats and many Hillary supporters who have sense.

Don't you people have principles?

Posted by: Anthony | May 26, 2008 9:34 AM

To "Hank",

You are a very little person. A Skin Head maybe? Very angry, probably mistreated as a child. You should go live in another country.

Very truly yours,
Judy Edwards

Posted by: Judy | May 26, 2008 9:34 AM

what a surprise - Clinton yet again takes NO responsibility for her actions - after making the assassination comment on 3 occasions and FINALLY getting called out on it, she BLAMES Obama, she BLAMED Bush for her voting for the war, let's see - blames MEN for the fact that she has mismanaged her campaign from beginning to end and failed her wealthy supporters as well as her "hard working white" spporters, blamed Republicans for her own failure to get Universal HC passed, blamed "tiredness" for her adventures in Bosnia (another 3 times tale)....and on top of everything she continues to stoke the fires of racism and reverse sexism - yep - Hillary Bush is a real winner - she truly has NO MORAL COMPASS. I am a "Hard Working White American" AND I am a WOMAN - I am ashamed of Hillary Clinton and disgusted with her trashy desperate behavior.

Posted by: Lara | May 26, 2008 9:35 AM

Hasn't Hillary said the same thing on at least two earlier occasions? That's not a mistake; that's taking a previously scripted remark on the road to see how it plays.

Posted by: Numley | May 26, 2008 9:36 AM

Prettierthanyou.....Chech what happened in the Ohio vote. Such an enormous number of Republicans who switched over for a day and voted for Clinton fraised such an issue in Cuyahoga County that the headlines in the Cleveland Plain Dealer was all about whether they could press charges against these people. Yes, there are ditto heads out there and they vote for Hillary for either reason...they either really support her or they are trying to botch up the primaries. But it did happen and it was an enormous amount and I suggest to read upmon it on the net.

Posted by: Nancy | May 26, 2008 9:36 AM

And by the way, I'm white and 100% Obama. We don't want your vote racists.

And isn't a vote for McCain a vote against Hillary who disagrees with the policies of McCain?

Posted by: Anthony | May 26, 2008 9:36 AM

"Please....how many times has Hillary taken the chance to stab Obama in the back? When asked if she thought he was a Muslim she wouldn't just say no, instead she said he would have to speak for himself."

Clinton was absolutely right to say that. In fact, Obama is probably still an atheist, despite his de rigeur church attendance. It's not Clinton's job to supply a religious label to Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 9:37 AM

C'mon everyone calm down...

Lets just agree she doesn' t mean anything by saying it and that she is just an insensitive, naive person.

Posted by: seedeton | May 26, 2008 9:38 AM

Cathy..."treachery of the Obama campaign?" Sounds like you drank the KoolAid too. Ouright--even pathological -- lies (Bosnia landing), repeatedly fanning bigotry and class flames, invoking assassination not once but numerous times...??? We'll discuss treachery some other time. In the meantime, go off to a spa somewhere and chill out. But definitely get some detraining before you come back to the states. And remember to vote Obama 2008.

Posted by: Ms Reasonable | May 26, 2008 9:38 AM

Suggest we dry up anything that might fuel the fires of the false Clinton outrage.

Instead of bashing her here and elsewhere...

Simply step back and let her fall.

Posted by: JJeff | May 26, 2008 9:38 AM

Dorris Kearns Goodwin said on Meet the Press that Hilary's use of Robert Kennedy to make her point was poppycock. So are we to believe that a woman with Clinton's education didn't know that it was poppycock also? Thats the angle that no one is reporting on. Can we believe that she could make such a fallacious argument so many times not knowing that it was invalid? And if she did know it was invalid, all we are left to assume is that she was in fact putting out a coded message calling for Obama's death. Its that simple. And the way that most news organizations like NPR in particular are ignoring this story, shows that a black man's life in this country is still not worth defending if comes at the cost of a white womans ambition.

Posted by: lakeqi | May 26, 2008 9:39 AM

"And by the way, I'm white and 100% Obama. We don't want your vote racists."

Well, Whitey, maybe we're not racists. Maybe we just don't like your guy, the race-baiting campaign he's been running and the heap of dreck that calls itself "Obama supporters." And maybe Obama wants our vote. In any case, he's not getting it.

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 9:40 AM

what an evil plan, why going back to the pass, only to trigger the mind of evil worker against a good man, with so many attack from Hillary, the man stil remain his humble self, Machinery are on motion targeting the life of this man calling for a change in America, but the evil plan of Hillary wil not succeed, Hillary may not surrender she has every right not to, for time wil tell and history is being written of her, but she is loosing focus, long live Obama and greater day to Amarica, the change must come and now is the change to our destiny

Posted by: jimmy | May 26, 2008 9:42 AM

She said it once before and the press ignored it. She was making a historical reference. The press and Axelrod twisted the words to relate them to Obama. The "sick" connotation was invented by the press and Axelrod. We have seen the Clintons' word twisted this way many, many times in this campaign. Won't get fooled again.

Typical Axelrod, too, to first issue a memo calling the comments "unfortunate" then claiming he hasn't used this against Clinton.

Posted by: Bamadude | May 26, 2008 9:42 AM


Boy, Hillary really needs to shoot something else besides her foot....

(I am not suggesting that she snuffs Obama herself ok?)

Posted by: kirktomson | May 26, 2008 9:43 AM

"Dorris Kearns Goodwin said on Meet the Press that Hilary's use of Robert Kennedy to make her point was poppycock."

Doris Kearns Goodwin is a famous plagiarist. Why would anybody be interested in her opinion?

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 9:43 AM

Some info for the idiots attacking Jimmy Carter. His big fault was not rebuilding the CIA and Pentagon by firing everyone that shafted him on Iran. His good heart is not shared by most he comes in contact with, though he treats them as such. So much for faults. He built 7 boomers forcing Russia to build 16 to remain safe destroying their economy. Rapid deployment forces used by today's military, his idea. Strategic oil reserve, his idea. @ billion a year in alternative energy cut by Reagan, his idea. 15% inflation offset by an 18% increase in working mans salary. Greatest creditor nation on earth. Rebuilt navy avoiding Cole type scenarios. Camp
David accords. I tell you the man was just terrible, what idiots.

Posted by: Carter Fan | May 26, 2008 9:44 AM

"She said it once before and the press ignored it. She was making a historical reference. The press and Axelrod twisted the words to relate them to Obama. The "sick" connotation was invented by the press and Axelrod. We have seen the Clintons' word twisted this way many, many times in this campaign. Won't get fooled again."

I wouldn't be surprised if -- one day -- Axelrod ends up in jail

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 9:45 AM

It it way past time for the superdelegates to endorse the front runner. Last year I liked Hillary, she won NJ. She have demonstrated she is not capable of answering that "3:00 AM call the to White House." Hillary will polarize the government for the next 4 years if she wins, the republicans will stop any effort she make just out of spite.

I'm tired of her, she cannot run a finanical campaign. She played on the racial feeling of those in West Virgina, it is so sickening. How do all the Black superdelegates still support her?

Posted by: Robbin Sealy | May 26, 2008 9:47 AM

J Jeff is right. I've got a ton of fun stuff about McCain and it would be nice for all of us to start splattering the blogosphere with that muck. And when you step back and take a deep breath (or read the lengthy insider opinions on the state of the race) you might find that Mr. Lobbyist-aide Express is mentioned almost only in the context of hypocrisy and influence. Not bad given what's gone on with the Dems.

Posted by: Ms Reasonable | May 26, 2008 9:47 AM

Since the beginning of this primary Hillary, and her media and non media supporters have taken everything Obama has said out of context and miscontrued every word he says. They go as far as adding words that he didn't say and interpretations that are completely false and speak them on tv and newspaper as if they are factual instead of just their opinion.

Posted by: DW | May 26, 2008 9:48 AM

i got a feeling that the same obama supporters post here all their cynical paranoid pro obama feelings time and time again from their mothers basement, using different names and talking to themselves like they are different people. obama should distance himself from these people as soon as possible. he can not govern this country and not disapoint these people. they are bound to be thrown overboard so i say do it now. that is the hard left, they are the main obama supporters and the main posters and they are completely paranoid.

Posted by: spaceman | May 26, 2008 9:48 AM

Sen. Clinton is the epitome of the children's story "If you give a mouse a cookie".

Her ever-changing demands for the way the nominator should win:

1. Delegates
2. Superdelegates
3. Popular Vote
4. Every Contest should count
5. Michigan & Florida (punished contests)
6. Assasination

When it was clear that neither Sen. Obama nor Sen. Clinton would have enough delegates (scenario #1 above), the nomination should have ended at #2 but no - everyone wanted to give Sen. Clinton respect as a strong Democrat and let this play out.

Well, if the superdelegates had gotten off their sorry butts and made a decision, we would not be looking at Sen. Clinton's scenario #6.

Now that assassination has entered the picture. Sen. Clinton is going to perform an assasination alright but it will not be on Sen. Obama but the Democratic Party as per #1 below.

From Merriam-Webster: Assassination
1 : to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously
2 : to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons

Posted by: Cookie | May 26, 2008 9:49 AM

Yeah. Pass the buck every time you screw up. The Obama campaign didn't have to do anything with this story, it took off on the internet and the New York Post like a match to flash powder with the rest of media following quickly led by Olberman's sermon on MSNBC. She used poor word choice with a silly, almost pathetic argument anyway. That's it. Move on.

Posted by: Jackson | May 26, 2008 9:49 AM

Even some of the Kennedys think Hillary comments are offensive and not accurate.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm

Posted by: betty | May 26, 2008 9:51 AM

Essays such as this do nothing but fan irrational emotional flames. That said, I seriously wonder if it was deliberately planted by a member of the neo con monster known as the republican party. If not, then when John McBush becomes POTUS he should, at the least, take the author to dinner.
In the meantime Obama and Clinton supporters who are tearing each other apart need to take a deep breath, and regain their inborn serenity. After which I've no doubt they'll see the bigger picture and put these petty ado's aside.

For the sake of our country they'll surely come to understand the desperate need to defeat John McBush.. If that means Hillary becomes VP, then so be it. If that means Obama takes a little heat, so be it... Some things are more important than our seemingly chimp need to constantly engage in silly, Angry Ego fights.

Posted by: Charles Munn | May 26, 2008 9:51 AM

Hey, "DemsforMcC"...fake blogger: To get into jail, Alexrod will have to line up behind the McCain/Keating Five team and Mrs. McCain, who stole drugs from her own non-profit medical relief organization(a documented fact).

Posted by: Repulicans Against Fakes | May 26, 2008 9:53 AM

So Hillary is whining that her offensive comment about RFK is the fault of those who were offended by her comment?

Hillary has shown a continuing pattern of self absorption, megalomania and an inability to be consistent and honest during her campaign.

We are fortunate that her fatal flaws have already been revealed for all to see. As to this whole "whites don't like Obama" nonsense, I'm white, I have a Masters degree and I have supported Obama all the way.

Yes, whites without any college experience tend to suuport Hillary, but isn't our system based on majority rule instead of ethnic division?

Hillary is a true tragic figure. Hubris is the biggest sin for anyone who wants great power.

Posted by: TJN | May 26, 2008 9:55 AM

She said it, she even apologized for it. Who knows what her intentions were. "I know you heard what I said but do you know what I meant?" This is just another example of HRC's neverending denial of responsibility or accountability. Poor Hillary, she kind of reminds me of my x wife. Just imagine your x wife running this country, thats what it will be like with Hillary as president. Remember her landing at omaha beach, I mean bosnia trip? The one with mortars and snipers? Im glad she is still running cuz now I have something to joke and laugh about.

Posted by: Chad | May 26, 2008 9:55 AM

I can't believe the hate mongering that is going on with both sides of this contest.
With this attitude the country will never unite. Hillary Clinton should have known better than to use RFK as a reference. When Obama used "bitter" it was played out in the media for days. It is time to bury the hatchet. Obama will be the nominee and hopefully the next President. Do you really want another 4 years of GWB mentality in the White House? That is the question.

Posted by: Andy | May 26, 2008 9:57 AM

"We should be DEMOCRATS first, Clintonites second. Even though I do not like Barrack Obama, I will never vote republican. Neither will I help them by not voting our Democratic Nominee."

I think that our party is in need of tough love, and that's why I will not vote for Obama, should his supporters on the DNC force him onto the ticket. They need to know they cannot count on our loyalty if they screw around with us.

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 9:58 AM

wow...she is turning into a Lifetime movie or an episode of staff...now I'm angry with Hillary but now I'm angry and pity her. I would hope if my friends and family saw me on such a downward spiral that they would help instead of contributing to my nervous breakdown...

Reading some of these pro Hillary comments I have to add that YOU people are contributing to her nervous breakdown...NOT Obama. YOU people are helping to make the bed for her insane asylum. If you loved her and respected her you wouldn't blame everyone in the world besides her and yourselves...you'd help her

Posted by: Sali1 | May 26, 2008 9:58 AM

Prettierthanyou wrote: "Typical Obama supporter arrogance to believe that it's impossible for real Democrats to detest your candidate and loathe what his campaign has done." What exactly has he done? Win more votes (no, I don't accept her claims of a 385,000 to 0 shutout in Michigan) and delegates than Clinton? Run a smarter campaign? Raise more money than she?

Posted by: Markhax | May 26, 2008 9:58 AM

"Hey, "DemsforMcC"...fake blogger: To get into jail, Alexrod will have to line up behind the McCain/Keating Five team and Mrs. McCain, who stole drugs from her own non-profit medical relief organization(a documented fact)."

It's a fake name, but I'm a real blogger and a Democrat from the Chicago area, who apparently knows a lot more about Axelrod and his pet snake than you do.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:00 AM

By now, the American public may be so used to sixteen years of Clintonian spin ("Are you going to trust me, or your lying eyes and ears?) that we've forgotten what it's like to have a politics in which the politicians are just a tiny bit restrained in their "Bosnia" approach to lying and spinning. Sure, all of them spin. But it will be so refreshing to get rid of the Clintonian shamelessness once and for all in a week or so. It's the shameless lying and endless manipulation of the truth and the masses which Samantha Power rightly, no doubt, had in mind when she correctly called Hillary a "monster." The same kind of monster as Bill. Someone who will parse anything anyway he or she can to achieve his or her narcissistic lust for power.

Posted by: jeanrenoir | May 26, 2008 10:00 AM

Prettierthanyou wrote: "Typical Obama supporter arrogance to believe that it's impossible for real Democrats to detest your candidate and loathe what his campaign has done." What exactly has he done?

For starters, the centerpiece of Obama's campaign has been the race card, where anybody who criticizes Mister Precious Pet is labeled "racist." He has a fake health care scheme, which is tantamont to no scheme. And as Samantha Power was kind enough to tell us, he plans to "revisit" his promise to withdraw our troops from Iraq after he is elected.
That suggests to me that he plans to "revisit" all of the other promises on his web page -- after he finally reads them, that is.

Posted by: Prettierthanthou | May 26, 2008 10:04 AM

Terry McAuliffe is just vile vile excuse for a human being who needs to leave all of our lives as soon as possible. He's and infected malignant tumor on the rectum of American political discourse.

Posted by: El Perro Patron | May 26, 2008 10:06 AM

"Prettierthanyou.....Chech what happened in the Ohio vote. Such an enormous number of Republicans who switched over for a day and voted for Clinton fraised such an issue in Cuyahoga County that the headlines in the Cleveland Plain Dealer was all about whether they could press charges against these people."

Nancy, check what happened in all of the caucus states, where the Obama team steamrollered a bunch of unaffiliated political neophytes into "supporting" Obama by cajoling them with donuts, peer group pressure -- and finally, threats.

Posted by: Prettierthanthou | May 26, 2008 10:10 AM

If Hillary Clinton were to somehow pull-off the Democratic nomination - John McCain will be your next president. If Barack Obama gets the nomination - Barack Obama will be your next president. The Democrats should wake-up and smell the coffee!

Posted by: Informit, Jacksonville, NC | May 26, 2008 10:11 AM

"As a 47 year old woman...I really was excited about Hillary..."

This is not a dating page, Sweetie.

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 10:13 AM

Has this site been infiltrated with TROLLS here to support McAncient. Judging by the extreme nature and tone characterized by the extreme nature of many of the comments, that in my opinion is most likely the case. Even though HRC is in "desperation" mode, I don't believe for a second that her supporters are that extreme and filled with so much vitriol. So readers, please view the more extreme comments you find here intelligently. I'd bet that 99.9% of the more hostile posts are made by McAncient supporters seeking to stir up discord amongst and between the Obama and Hillary supporters. So please read these comments thru the prism of reasonableness. In other words, don't be suckered by the paid MaAncient posters.

Posted by: AtlantaBill | May 26, 2008 10:13 AM

To all of you cowards who are making covert and overt threats don't for get what happen to the JFK ASSASSIN. Obama will be our next president. Make no mistake about.

Posted by: JOE | May 26, 2008 10:16 AM

"To All Obama supporters who are condescending to us hillary supporters..the road to whitehouse runs through us. So you better start sucking up to us ad drop the attitude in these boards.

Unless you want Mccin thrash your candidate in Nov."

If you want to witness the disgusting spectacle of Obama supporters trying to suck up, go over to HuffPuff -- but be sure to bring your barf bag. Those posts -- include those of the site's foul proprietress -- are hypocrisy's crowning achievement.

I think I prefer the open hostility. Besides, every time one of these skanks goes to his "I'm a sixty year old woman ..." keyboard, Obama loses a half dozen votes in the general.

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 10:17 AM


Why is it Clintonites are blaming the Obamabots about the race card?

1. It was Bill Clinton who first brought it up

2. Remember "White" hard working americans?

There was never a point when the Obama camp started the race issue.

Posted by: sheene | May 26, 2008 10:17 AM

Please....how many times has Hillary taken the chance to stab Obama in the back? When asked if she thought he was a Muslim she wouldn't just say no, instead she said he would have to speak for himself. At that last debate (if you can even call it that.....it ws more of a lynching) he covered her back while she continued to stab him in his. She is so vile there isn't a word for her. Obama and his campaign did not inflame the issue. How does she explain every other intelligent American being outraged? (Oh, except fdor her supporters) She is a whiner who can never take the blame for her "mis-speaks" and who certainly doesn't know how to sy "I'm sorry" "I was wrong" It's always somebody eles fault. Guess what....she always acts just like a WOMAN! I'm white, female and 59. I find no redeeming qualities in her at all.

Posted by: Cheryl | May 26, 2008 10:18 AM

Posted by: Hillary Deserves Better | May 25, 2008 5:28 PM
I'm a lifelong democrat and I will never vote for BHO. His disgusting politics, sexism and race-baiting makes him a thoroughly un-electable canidate. I'm prepared to write-in Hilary come November if she's not the nominee.

The media is also a joke. It's not Hillary that's going to destroy the democratic party, it's Obama and his far left Marxist ideas and his willingness to say or do anything to undermine millions of voters that have been at the core of democratic party for decades.
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Typical Hillary supporter vitriol: Part A can be spewed ad nauseum with no proof, factual references or links to back up the sexism, race-baiting, and 'disgusting politics' of which Senator Obama is accused.

Part B can be interpreted to mean that despite the fact that Hillary and All other candidates signed a pledge acknowledging that the Michigan and Florida delegates would not be seated...and despite the fact that Hillary wants to break the rules and now wants the delegates seated to help her virtually over campaign....this is somehow Barack Obama's fault.

Conclusion: No matter how disgusting, disengenous, dishonest and desperate Hillary Clinton is...no matter how worrisome it is that we have a contender for the office of President of the United States of America who cannot tell the truth and cannot accept responsibility for her own actions, misstatements and mispeaks...Barack Obama is simply 'unelectable' because anything, yes ANYTHING is better than having a black man as President of the United States.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:19 AM

It's really telling the Clinton Camp is completely 'nut's'. Bill Clinton yesterday telling his audience, "Hillary is winning this election, and everyone's telling her to get out". Seems to me people, news media are just talking about the fact's facing this Campaign of hers, not pushing her out. Actually people have invited her to stay in if she wants. Obama was one of those.

Lies, don't go down very well for Clinton camp, and I don't know why they keep doing that.

I do know that with desperate to regain "their" WH, raw ambition is their only tool. I believe it's to save their ass from prosecution in the fall, their debt, their legacy.

Don't be fooled voter's, the Clinton's never had the American citizen's in mind, EVER. It's is all about them.

Posted by: canadagirl | May 26, 2008 10:21 AM


We white hardworking americans dont want barrack!

Posted by: KKK for Clinton | May 26, 2008 10:21 AM

"Thanks, posters. You've helped convince me that, whoever wins the upcoming elections, the deciding votes will be cast by uninformed idiots."

That's probably true. A good first step towards improving that situation would be to raise the voting age to forty. A good second step would be making it illegal to vote in California.

Posted by: prettierthanyou | May 26, 2008 10:23 AM

Posted by: Hillary Deserves Better | May 25, 2008 5:28 PM
I'm a lifelong democrat and I will never vote for BHO. His disgusting politics, sexism and race-baiting makes him a thoroughly un-electable canidate. I'm prepared to write-in Hilary come November if she's not the nominee.

The media is also a joke. It's not Hillary that's going to destroy the democratic party, it's Obama and his far left Marxist ideas and his willingness to say or do anything to undermine millions of voters that have been at the core of democratic party for decades.

You do realize... GENIUS... that Obama's policies and Hillary's are almost Identical in most respects ... or are you one of the illiterate who only know what your LOSING mistress tells you to think.

BTW... a vote for McCain is a vote to kill more of our troops. You'd be no better than Bush or Cheney to keep your vote from the winner... who will not be Billary.

Go to college... okay?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:25 AM

"So vote for McCain. And SHUT THE HELL UP! We Americans are tired of listening to y0ou whining losers."

If you're tired of listening, turn off the TV, plug up your ears and go hide under your bed. But don't use your "tiredness" as a ploy to silence others. Only fascists do that.

Posted by: DemsForMcC | May 26, 2008 10:25 AM

She will not apologize to Obama because she is bitter (yes bitter) that she is losing and she wishes him dead and she is glad that his wife and children have been reminded of what could and should happen to him. Why? Because he beat her and her terrible campaign fair and square. She is a disgrace to humanity, her gender and to her country. May God have mercy on her wicked soul!!!

Posted by: Rob A | May 26, 2008 10:25 AM

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America rate Obama B+ and McCain D on veteran issue votes.

Posted by: connect the dots | May 26, 2008 10:26 AM

The Obama campaign's response to this terrific Clinton gaffe has been nothing compared to her vitriolic attack against him about "bitter". When she does it, it's "stay out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat". If the Obama campaign says it was an unfortunate remark, it's poor little Hillary, the boys are picking on me. Terry McAuliffe is ridiculous when he keeps saying what a close race this is. Today, Obama has 1,977 delegates to Clinton's 1,782 for a difference of 195. That "little" difference eqals 21 times her net gain in Ohio (9) and 16 times her net gain in Pennsylvania (12). That's why she's been behind since early February and that's why she can't catch up. She may have beat Obama by 9 points in California in early February, but most recent Survey USA poll shows Obama 8 points up on her in CA now. The men on Mrs. Clinton's team do neither Mrs. Clinton nor the women's movement any favors with their constant refrain that she's just a poor little girl who is being mistreated by the big bad boys. She didn't look like a sweet little girl when she was attacking and she isn't one when she gets some of her own back----not from the Obama campaign, but from the people outside the campaign who were offended by her callous remarks.

Posted by: karela | May 26, 2008 10:26 AM

She is vile!

Her crew is VILE!

Posted by: Sam | May 26, 2008 10:26 AM

We white hardworking americans dont want barrack!

Posted by: KKK for Clinton | May 26, 2008 10:21 AM

YOU left out UNEDUCATED. I assume you're proud of that, too?

HAHAHA what a life you must have moving your house from place to place.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:27 AM

What about, "I'm sorry" Hillary?

Posted by: J. Miller | May 26, 2008 10:29 AM

""Elected to the Senate in Chicago is like being elected dogcatcher"

What a moron!"

The writer actually wrote "being elected to the Illinois State Senate is equivalent to being elected dogcatcher."

And he went on to say -- quite correctly -- that it's a part time job, that Obama hardly gave lip service to. I think that the real moron is the person who incorrectly paraphrases somebody else's comment, and then insults it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:30 AM

The veneer breaks and the monster inside shows it's true intentions. And in typical fashion,when a compulsive lier and a deciever is exposed, they point the finger towards others or claim they were mis-understood.
What I do not not understand, is how so many can be so gullible to believe any thing from the clintons mouth.
In the 1800's,there were indivduals who traveled the small,rural towns and sold colored water as a cure-all to all of ones problems.
Maybe the clintons were born a century too late.

Posted by: pat | May 26, 2008 10:30 AM

For all you uneducated morons....it's RFK not JFK
no wonder she's still in the race....there's way too many uneducated people in this country....maybe that should be the topic of conversation....EDUCATION!

Posted by: marco | May 26, 2008 10:30 AM

To all you bigots, racist, who ever you are get a DNA test and see how pure your blood is. If you don't like what you find leave my country.

Posted by: JOE | May 26, 2008 10:32 AM

It's true Hillary.

I know for a fact, just like you do the bs you spew, that Obama ordered Sirhan Sirhan to whack Bobby.

Just like you ordered one of your cronies to whack Vince Foster.

Oh no, the last one is true!!!

Shame on you Hillary. You are a liar, a thief, a cheat, and now that you reminded me, probably a murderer too.

Posted by: jeffp | May 26, 2008 10:32 AM

Obama's camp said the comments "had no place in this campaign", which means he IS using it against her.

Here's a good, funny write-up about it:

How to Offend Barack Obama

Posted by: Rich Vorhees | May 26, 2008 10:32 AM

How is it that Hillary is the better candidate? She has had her foot in her mouth more times than not? She says she stated what she calls "a historical fact" (Which turns out to be another lie), invoking assassination and she blames Obama for the negative press coverage she has received. Ridiculous! If her intention were to bring up a historical precedent, don't you think she would have gotten the precedent information correct? Her intention was to continue with her mantra of "something could happen" so I'm going to stay in the race. That something that she has on her mind is clear from her May 23, 2008 comment.
The fact that she is denying that shows her to be a calculating liar. If she is the better candidate for America, why hasn't she paid the "hardworking Americans" (no doubt "Hardworking white Americans") who provided services to her campaign several months ago? Why is she asking small, business owners to bear those costs while she continues to spend money that she doesn't not have to pursue a nomination that she cannot win?

Posted by: heartsick | May 26, 2008 10:33 AM

I have viewed the entire video of the interview with the Argus Ledger. How can something she said be taken out of context? Didn't I see the entire context???

Posted by: JoyceV. | May 26, 2008 10:33 AM

I am a white democrat who is supporting Obama. The republican party has done nothing but cheat, lie and manipulate the American people to be divisive. They have us even voting against our own interest because they have sold us a bunch of lies. Obama has some questionable associates, who don't. Bush does, he and Cheney has insured their rich friends in Haliburton, Blackwater, and oil tycoons that their children and childrens children will never have to worry again. I looked into Obama legislature body and found no record of his lawmaking decisons to reflect any ideas of " Wright, Ayers, or Farrakhan" If guilt by association was the true measuring stick of a man, Bush should of never won the presidency, then again, it was stolen and given to him. My point, Senator Clinton could of used any other example to express her point but she did not. She tries to come accross as poised and prepared and she is not. She has tried to use race and sexism to divide us just like the republican party and if we don't wake up and come together, McCain will win. By the way, I am 58 years old so I know what I am talking about here. My fellow White Americans, when are we going to face facts regarding our own racist attitudes towards Senator Obama. He has the right to be president. If he screws it up, it will not be because he is black, what is Bush excuse?

Posted by: Denise | May 26, 2008 10:34 AM

I was trying to refer to Nancy's comment when a fun loving hubby was trying to get me off the computer and posted me before I was finished.....I was going to say that I am from cleveland and what she said is true. In Ohio we can switch for the primary and then switch back again for the general. They are working to change that. I hope they succeed.

Posted by: Cheryl | May 26, 2008 10:35 AM

"... and to me, the only one who matters is ethel."

That figures. Why are we (Clinton supporters) not surprised?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:35 AM

When Bill Clinton was President, he never took responsibility for anything he did that was negative.

Looks like they are two peas in a pod.

Hillary doesn't take responsibility either.

I know lots of people don't like Bush but at least he did take responsibility for some things that went wrong.

Posted by: Enough | May 26, 2008 10:37 AM

I am appalled by all of the shameless nagativity about Obama. I think that he would make a great presdident!
Racism should have no place in this country!

Posted by: Bret | May 26, 2008 10:39 AM

As a Democrat who prefers Obama (for reasons unrelated to her RK comment nor to her gender), I suggest toning down the vitriol on both sides.

Hillary has fumbled the ball for the last time, calling into question both her ability to lead & her claims of winning the popular vote, and being the only Democrat that can win the General Election. She will not be the DP's candidate in 2008.

Fumbled or not, the ball is now in her court. Give her a chance to finish the race and hopefully, be gracious about her loss. As things stand, the DP is deeply divided and Hillary can help heal the divide. Support Obama but give her a chance to provide that help.

Posted by: dhinds | May 26, 2008 10:39 AM

""Why is it that so many Obama supporters feel compelled to announce they are "white, middle-aged women," as if their comments were some kind of convoluted personal ads?"

Because that's Hillary's demographic, according to the Press, and they have to apologize for people thinking they are stupid enough to vote for Hillary.

Like you."

You should start a club called "Noisy One-Inch-Dicks Who Think Demographics are Destiny."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:40 AM

Maybe Shrillary should cry on camera a few more times. That always seems to help her get her own way.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:42 AM

Classic Clinton Gang USING toxic MOB tactics and LIES to BLAME the VICTIM. SHE PROFILES her opponent and stokes the fires of racism as the "white candidate" with "her followers" in Appalachian territory and any other bigoted Crackpot haven in the nation and THEN SHE PLANTS THE THOUGHT OF ASSASINATION in their minds and this SICK DISGUSTING turn of events is Mr. OBAMA's FAULT?!?!?!

HILLARY CLINTON IS A MONSTER

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26, 2008 10:44 AM

"The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context," Clinton campaign chairman Terence R. McAuliffe said on "Fox News Sunday." "She was making a point merely about the time line."

The point was inaccurate and deceptive. Paul Tsongas, citing the need for party unity, had dropped out in April, long before Clinton m