Edwards: 'Obama Will Be the Nominee'

By Zachary A. Goldfarb
Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said it is likely Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) will be his party's nominee, and he warned Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) against hurting the party's chances in the fall by staying in the race.

"I think it is likely, certainly, at this point, that Senator Obama will be the nominee," said Edwards, a former North Carolina senator and two-time presidential candidate.

He added on CBS's "Face the Nation," "I think the one thing that [Clinton] has to be careful about ... is that, if she makes the case for herself, which she's completely entitled to do, she has to be really careful that she's not damaging our prospects, the Democratic Party, and our cause, for the fall."

Edwards said Clinton has been making "a pretty compelling case for her candidacy," but "you can no longer make a compelling case for the math." Obama on Saturday took a lead among Democratic superdelegates, and he already led among pledged delegates.

Edwards said that, when he got out of the race, he believed "it would accelerate the process of one person pulling away." But, he said, "I was obviously dead wrong about that." He said Clinton is in a "very, very tough place" in deciding whether to stay in the race.

Edwards would not give any clues about whether he will endorse a candidate, saying it's not a "big deal."

On a different show, Obama aide David Axelrod virtually ruled out transferring funds from the campaign to the Clinton campaign, as a way to cover her debt and ease her transition out of the campaign.

"I don't think even under any scenario no one said that we were going to transfer money from the Obama campaign to the Clinton campaign," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

He added, "The truth is I think that Senator Clinton will have the capacity to retire her debt. I don't believe that Senator Clinton is looking for a deal. I don't think that's what this is about."

Top Clinton aide Howard Wolfson acknowledged on Fox that the campaign is $20 million in debt - both to Clinton and to vendors. He brushed aside talk that Obama, in order to ease Clinton's exit from the race, would help retire that debt.

"I think any talk of that is premature. Senator Clinton is going to be the nominee. When she's the nominee, we'll be in a position to retire our own debt," Wolfson said.

Wolfson said that his campaign is committed to seating the Florida and Michigan delegations, even if the Democratic National Committee rules panel elects not to at the end of the month.

"My hope is that they will. My expectation is that they will. And we are committed to seating Florida and Michigan," Wolfson said.

Axelrod said he predicted a steady flow of superdelegates coming out to publicly back Obama.

"I think you're going to continue to see that. I think that's a natural thing. We're coming to the end of the process," Axelrod said.

Axelrod also said Obama is taking "very seriously" the McCain campaign's idea of joint discussions and debates between the two candidates at town halls around the country.

Democrats' Reid: McCain Turned Back on Independents

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) attacked Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), saying that the Republican nominee has "wrapped his arms around George Bush" and forfeited the independent credentials he carried after the 2000 election, when he was thinking McCain might switch to the Democratic Party.

"John McCain was a different John McCain in those days than he is now," Reid said on ABC's "This Week," adding: "He didn't vote with [Republicans] on the ridiculous things they have done on tax policies, put this country in red ink for the next generation, or two, or three. He didn't walk lockstep with Karl Rove in the White House and Bush. I mean, he's a different person now than he was then, and that's a disappointment."

Carly Fiorina, a business executive who is now one of the top officials in the McCain campaign, said on the same show, "I've heard a lot that John McCain is a third Bush term. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was John McCain, after all, who spoke loudly, for four long years, saying that Don Rumsfeld was the worst secretary of defense in history, that the prosecution of the war in Iraq was going badly, and that we needed a new strategy."

On CNN's "Late Edition," Republican whip Roy Blunt said, when it comes to taxes, a McCain administration would be in effect a third Bush term.

"I think it would be. And I think that's a good thing," he said.

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In an ideal world, Edwards would be the party nominee, but he at least had the decency to bow out when he knew he didn't have a chance. It's admirable that he thought dropping out would cause the 2nd weakest candidate to do the same shortly after, but not with the bull-headed approach Clinton has been taking.

Howard Wolfson must not have gotten the memo that this race is over. Sad.

Harry Reid is spot-on about McCain. He used to be the Republican that even the Democrats could support, but now he's just another Bush crony.

As for Roy Blunt saying the Bush tax cuts are a good thing-yeah, if you're in the upper tax bracket.

Posted by: GregB | May 11, 2008 2:40 PM

This is extremely disappointing.

Its clear Obama's scared to death of what will happen in the remaining primaries.

If Democrats nominate Obama they won't only lose the race.

They'll lose half the Democratic Party.

They've already lost our respect.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 2:47 PM

McCain is a nasty joke. The only thing he will bring to the campaign is a "ready to fight" attitude toward the security threats he will soon be fed by Bush Cheney.

Together they will attempt to paint Obama as "aloof and unprepared" to fire cruise missiles here and there (something the Clintons sure got used to doing).

Fortunately for us and the world, Obama is a lot tougher than the people he is about to walk over.

The Clinton collapse is extraordinary, from inevitable to lost and $20 million in debt to boot.

Sure am glad to be a part of it.

Posted by: shrink2 | May 11, 2008 2:50 PM

The race isn't over, six states haven voted, the votes of Florida and Michigan have't been included, and Obama's just claimed that there are 57 states.

Hillary's biggest mistake was letting the issue of Obama's 20 year involvement in "Black Liberation Theology" drop.

Republicans won't make that mistake.

Obama will lose, and the leadership of the Democratic party will only have themselves to blame.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 2:50 PM

For edwards to make his comment on mothers day is unbelievably cruel and insensitive.

I hope that Elizabeth divorces him for doing it.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 3:02 PM

"For edwards to make his comment on mothers day is unbelievably cruel and insensitive.

I hope that Elizabeth divorces him for doing it."
Posted by: | May 11, 2008 3:02 PM
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But it perfectly fine for Hillary to campaign and take supporters' cash at fundraisers on Mothers' Day. Grow up already!

Posted by: Black and Bitter like Coffee | May 11, 2008 3:10 PM

anonymous, you don't even make sense. i will be so glad when this race is over and obama is president and all of these bitter naysayers will shut the heck up. obama is going to be a great leader, regain the world's respect for the united states, and end the insane fiscal policy (and ignorance) of the current administration. come on january 2009.

Posted by: dc voter | May 11, 2008 3:13 PM

That's it. Keep going McCain officials.

Keep ripping into Bush. Keep giving me more and more reason to NOT vote for McCain.

I tell you what. I'll show as much loyalty to you that you showed to Bush -- which is none at all. So you better hope that there are a lot of racist Democrats who will refuse to vote for Obama and cross over in order to make up for the votes you are losing on the right.

Posted by: Bender | May 11, 2008 3:16 PM

That's it. Keep going McCain officials.

Keep ripping into Bush. Keep giving me more and more reason to NOT vote for McCain.

I tell you what. I'll show as much loyalty to you that you showed to Bush -- which is none at all. So you better hope that there are a lot of racist Democrats who will refuse to vote for Obama and cross over in order to make up for the votes you are losing on the right.

Posted by: Bender | May 11, 2008 3:18 PM

So, let's forget about Hillary Clinton (if she will let us do so) and turn our attention to The Truth About John McCain:

http://truth-about-mccain.blogspot.com

Posted by: Francis L. Holland, Esq. | May 11, 2008 3:24 PM

For those who are disappointed that their Dem candidate lost (or may be losing) please consider the plight of this great nation under the control of the republican party for the past 14 yrs ( yes 14 yrs.) since Newt & his crowd convinced evangilicals that the republicans wer Gods party.If you wish to continue, vote for Mc & be sure to support ALL republican candidates. This election will be the first in 50 yrs. between opposites. High gas, no health care, education in the tank, etc. American's do have a real choice this time,& it's not a bush nor clinton.

Posted by: tlrasnic | May 11, 2008 3:26 PM

No thanks.

We rather vote for lower taxes, a strong defense and the war hero rather than the coke-head.

Democrats will lose by a landslide if they nominate Obama.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 3:28 PM

Hilary has shown through her campaign that she is not a good money manager. This is somewhat an indicator as to how she will run the country. She wants to win, no matter what the the cost. With the present state of our economy, we certainly don't want her starting another war with Iran, when we can't pay for the mess we are already in. People who want to vote for McCain must have as short a memory as his. Even within these few months of campaigning, he has proved to be the biggest flip-flopper! He will continue the economic and war policies of Bush. Look where that has led us!!

Posted by: Ann | May 11, 2008 4:04 PM

Hilary has shown through her campaign that she is not a good money manager. This is somewhat an indicator as to how she will run the country. She wants to win, no matter what the the cost. With the present state of our economy, we certainly don't want her starting another war with Iran, when we can't pay for the mess we are already in. People who want to vote for McCain must have as short a memory as his. Even within these few months of campaigning, he has proved to be the biggest flip-flopper! He will continue the economic and war policies of Bush. Look where that has led us!!

Posted by: Ann | May 11, 2008 4:05 PM

I like to listen to these republicans saying that if Obama is the candidate they will vot for McCain. Good luck! Obama is already the nominee, and, almost for sure, this nation's next president.

Posted by: Juan Mercado | May 11, 2008 4:11 PM

I like to listen to these republicans saying that if Obama is the candidate they will vot for McCain. Good luck! Obama is already the nominee, and, almost for sure, this nation's next president.

Posted by: Juan Mercado | May 11, 2008 4:11 PM

Edwards was giving Clinton some good advice. I hope she follows it. It won't matter over the long run for Obama, because I think Clinton will look increasingly irrelevant and Obama will continue to take the high road with her. We are going to win this year because the country has seen what the Republicans have done to our country and they are sick of it.

Posted by: Chuck | May 11, 2008 4:28 PM

Dear Democratic Party Hierarchy & American press core:

I have been a life member of the Democratic Party, as have been all of my family and indeed my Irish ancestors all the way back to the early 1800's, when they first came to America. You need to know how truly disgusted and angry I am over all the shenanigans that have been going on against Hillary Clinton, since day number one of the primary elections. You have both painted and showed the ugliest picture that you could possibly find of Hillary, while showing a young, vibrant Barrack Obama. When Hillary has spoken her truth, demonstrated her experience, and connection to everyday America, she has been ridiculed as inflammatory, divisive, racist and mean spirited; when Mr. Obama speaks essentially the same truth, but in more flowery words aimed at the young and more liberal sector of the Democratic Party and Independents, he has been lauded as the messiah, the healer, incapable of doing any wrong. When Hillary has mis-stepped, she has been beaten down to the ground and spit upon by the American press, as well as by much of the Democratic hierarchy; when Obama has mis-stepped, he has been helped back up and offered assistance. When Hillary has talked about her life experiences in politics, it has been so totally twisted out of reality as to represent an obscene monster-like essence; when Barrack's lack of experience, especially in foreign affairs has been brought up, it has quietly been hidden from the public, made to seem immaterial. Hillary talks of using experience to enact change effectively and rightfully; Barack talks of changing the American way of politics to enact a needed, future change. But the press has reported Clinton as tired, corrupt Hillary politics, while presenting a young, glowing vibrant all knowing Obama future. What utter irresponsibility and illusions the American press core and Democratic hierarchy have pandered to the American public. The fact of the matter is that both of the candidates are outstanding in their own right. But, Hillary has a much richer life experience in all areas. Barrack Obama simply does not possess the same political knowledge and wisdom that Hillary has accrued throughout her life. By the way, Mr. Obama, there are only 52 states, not 57 as you recently reported...

Then, there has been the ridiculous mess with the Democratic Party's refusal to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan. Rules, rules, rules. What utter nonsense. There are, I understand, bylaws that would allow exceptions to be made. Obviously Obama has not wanted Florida and Michigan's votes counted, because it could cost him the election. The Democratic Party hierarchy should know better and have acted neutrally, somehow getting Florida and Michigan's votes counted. Yet, it has been clear from day one, that Dean (the Democratic National Committee boss) has been in the pocket of Obama (who in turn has been backed by Senator Edward Kennedy). Not surprisingly, the Democrat National Committee has not championed getting these two states votes counted. In the case of Florida, it is one of the swing states. How extremely unwise that the Democratic powers to be have refused to seat Florida and Michigan's votes, especially interesting since Florida's 'illegal' voting date was pushed through by a Republican controlled legislature in Florida! Pushed through by a REPUBLICAN Florida legislature: So why in the world would the Democratic National Committee want to "punish" Florida's Democrats? Come November, Florida's Democrats may well decide to "punish" the Democratic Partiy back in retaliation and vote McCain. The Republicans will, I assure you, welcome the Floridian Democrats with two open arms. Why doesn't the Democratic National Committee just shot itself in the leg....

Finally, the Democratic hierarchy and the American press core have not been exactly honest about Hillary's greater electibility power. No matter how you cut it, the mighty electoral swing states are Hillary states. Based on the winner takes all electoral votes policy in the Presidential elections, Hillary has already won the Presidential Elections. Interestingly enough, very little has been said about this by the Democratic hierarchy and by the the news. How inconvenient this will be, if an Obama ticket losses the November elections!

In closing, for the first time I seriously am thinking of not voting Democratic, but rather registering my extreme displeasure with the Democratic Party by writing in Hillary Clinton's name as my choice for President. Many will say this is insane and stupid. Yet, in my conscience I must and will do what I think is right and that is to let the Democratic Party system know how absolutely disgusted with them I am. P.S. Democratic Party: I know many, many others, who feel exactly the same way I do and who plan to register their great upset the same way---at the polls in November.

Carpe Diem, Hillary Clinton!


Posted by: Elaine E | May 11, 2008 4:33 PM

I guess mistakenly saying 57 states is far, far worse than intentionally misspeaking about Bosnian snipers...

Posted by: Tom | May 11, 2008 4:41 PM

Hillary needs to get out now. I voted for her in Maryland but it is OVER!!

Posted by: Election Winner | May 11, 2008 4:47 PM

John Edwards misreads 1/2 of the democratic party. They do not want Obama for any reason.

the DNC is delusional if they think democrats are going to support Obama.

Once again we have Ted Kennedy picking the nominee and once again the dems will lose.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | May 11, 2008 4:48 PM

There is NO way are all Dems going to vote for Obama.
We just (half of us) don't want him.
Doesn't he get that yet?

Let's see how much of the vote he gets this Tuesday in West Virginia!

Posted by: Veronica | May 11, 2008 4:54 PM

Another (in)famous misstep:

Barrack Obama: Over a 20 year period I never heard or knew that my 'like-an uncle', Rev. Wright say, "God damm America"

Posted by: Elaine E | May 11, 2008 4:55 PM

Well, guess I'll be voting for McCain this fall :)

Posted by: Rina | May 11, 2008 4:56 PM

edwards supports a man who is an anti American afrocentric, sad...
they could not find a man who stood for all Americans, the blood is on their hands on this one...

Posted by: dwight | May 11, 2008 4:58 PM

In his effort to secure enough support from working-class whites to win the nomination, John McCain has flip-flopped on so many issues he doesn't know which way he's heading. He's not even a cranky contrarian any more. He is, simply, an unprincipled politician.

Posted by: hjp | May 11, 2008 5:01 PM

This race, for all intents and purposes, is over. I am in the view that Senator Clinton should be given the space she needs to exit this race gracefully and park her hard fought campain respectfully, but I think every concerned democrat, like Mr. Edwards, wants her to make sure that she doesn't in this process continue such devastating and negative attacks on Mr. Obama, who clearly represents the best hope not only for the democrats to take the White House, but also for our great country to take back its rightful place in the world, a place that was lost disaterously under George W. Bush.

Posted by: Myron Beinsty, Mclean | May 11, 2008 5:01 PM

I admire the dignity with which he has conducted himself. We all should be proud that he is an American leader. I hope that the new administration will give him a senior position.

It has been Clinton's strategy for long time had been to increase Obama's negatives and minimalize him a race candidate, instead of highlighting her policies and plans. To the extant she had had been successful (she certainly had been successful partially), she had damaged the Party and our chances in November. In the process, she had also diminished our Party's chances for other candidates. It is way past the time for her to get out. Clinton's already had 8 years, in which accomplish everything including Universal Health Care. Her divisive and secretive approach had killed it for a generation. Lack of proper universal healthcare plan also in no small measure has contributed competitive disadvantage of American corporations who actually produce the jobs and wealth.

Obama is the product of his mother's unyielding belief in humanity and her story should be highlighted more in this campaign. She had achieved lot for herself and her family. She should make all the feminists and men and woman of all stripes to be proud.

Posted by: George | May 11, 2008 5:03 PM

"

For those who are disappointed that their Dem candidate lost (or may be losing) please consider the plight of this great nation under the control of the republican party for the past 14 yrs ( yes 14 yrs.) since Newt & his crowd convinced evangilicals that the republicans wer Gods party.If you wish to continue, vote for Mc & be sure to support ALL republican candidates. This election will be the first in 50 yrs. between opposites. High gas, no health care, education in the tank, etc. American's do have a real choice this time,& it's not a bush nor clinton.

Posted by: tlrasnic | May 11, 2008 3:26 PM "

your argument doesn't fly, dems will be in charge of the house and senate so it doesn't matter who wins.
better to elect a man who loves America than an afrocentric who will destroy it.

Posted by: dwight | May 11, 2008 5:03 PM

It is amazing to read all of the comments by young Republicans all over the net, saying "I am a Democrat and I will never vote for Obama". They spend hours and hours pumping this stuff out, hoping to influence people. They should better spend some time trying to improve the lives of their fellow citizens

Posted by: Kris | May 11, 2008 5:03 PM

"We rather vote for lower taxes, a strong defense and the war hero rather than the coke-head."

Well, yes, Bush HAS trashed our military capabilities and he IS a cocaine addict, but at least he's got that cute daughter. But this thread is supposed to be about Obama.

Posted by: Mark | May 11, 2008 5:03 PM

Posted by (noname):
Its clear Obama's scared to death of what will happen in the remaining primaries.

.........

Wow, that's quite a stretch. What planet are you from, and do you get Earth news there?

Some of you Clinton supporters need to wake up, smell the roses, be better sports, and be good Democrats.

Posted by: binkynh | May 11, 2008 5:04 PM

Media bias in reporting Edwards' comments:
CBS: Clinton now a stronger candidate
AP: Clinton didn't chose words well
WP: Obama will be nominee

Anyways, Edwards is a two-time loser with a $400 haircut.

Posted by: alee21 | May 11, 2008 5:05 PM

With the shoddy treatment Hillary has gotten from the DNC, the Obama team calling her husband a racist, the failure to redo the Florida and Michigan primaries, and the partisan behind the scenes behavior of Nancy Pelosi, she owes the party nothing, nada, zip.

The deck was stacked against her by the pro-Obama press and daily attacks by MSNBC. The Democratic Party will get what it deserves in November. Once again they will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: alance | May 11, 2008 5:06 PM

In this situation, it is Sen. Edwards who has reason to be "bitter".

One can only speculate what Barack Obama's fate would have been if Rev. Wright's semon snippets were aired before the early primaries. He would have dropped out fast, and supported another candidate, perhaps Edwards.

By hiding the skeletons in his closet until it is too late, Obama won the delegates by deception. By injecting the race card at every turn, he won the delegates by foul means. Scaring any potential opponent from criticizing him, lest they be called racist, he managed to escape quite a bit scrutiny, and won his delegates by deception.

The republicans need show no such deference to Obama. No racist references at the drop of a hat will deter them. He can't swoon the republican, and moderate voters by his vacation pictures in swimming trunks.

Barack is Wright. Obama is toast.

Posted by: Krishna | May 11, 2008 5:06 PM

At 4:33PM, Elaine E wrote:
"By the way, Mr. Obama, there are only 52 states, not 57 as you recently reported..."

Nope, still not right. Try 50. Guess Mr. Obama's not the only one who has trouble counting.

Posted by: 52 states? | May 11, 2008 5:10 PM

"It is amazing to read all of the comments by young Republicans all over the net, saying "I am a Democrat and I will never vote for Obama". They spend hours and hours pumping this stuff out, hoping to influence people. They should better spend some time trying to improve the lives of their fellow citizens"

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I'm not'young', I am not a Republican, neither is my husband, or our Democratic circle of friends.
We are not going to vote for Obama, don't kid yourselves.

Obama is not the right man for this job.

Posted by: Veronica | May 11, 2008 5:11 PM

I voted for Hillary...there is no way in you know what that I am voing for Obama...I refuse to drink the kool aide...

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 5:13 PM

We must, MUST, take our government back from corporate special interests. In a divided party, we will never do that. I don't have any fundamental differences with Senator Clinton, however, I, do think she is allegiant to and in alignment with the very special interests that harm our democracy. The many, in the United States, are not here to serve the few. We are all equal. Not one rich and one poor.

Even if we counted Florida and Miami and the Clinton won the rest of the primaries, she could not win. Especially when she would have to rely on a sizable superdelegate percentage.

The Democrats have to remember that the price is to be gained in November, not in a primary, and that the prize belongs to the party, the people, NOT the person.

For the love of God, lets get past this.

Posted by: Concernedaboutdc | May 11, 2008 5:15 PM

Response to Kris,

Hate to break the news to you, but we are not all Republicans, pretending to be Democrats just because many, many of us are saying that we will not vote Obama. We are angry, frustrated Democrats, who are sick and tired of how unfairly Hillary Clinton has been treated by both the Democratic hierarchy and by the American press core. Voting non-Obama is the only way we can effectively register our extreme displeasure with the Democratic National Comittee, Democratic hierarchy and Obama biased news reporting. Enough is enough! We have finally had it and will speak our unhappiness in the November Presidential Elections.

Posted by: angus | May 11, 2008 5:16 PM

..."Coming from Loser Edwards, who couldn't even carry his own state in the Presidential election, I"d say as a registered voter, He's wrong once again, and Hillary and I and America have just begun to FIGHT!

...Obama good man, but sadly his name cuts into his votes, and his color cuts into his votes, and America will not elect an African American, "Not Now, Not yet."

Posted by: Tom Birchfield | May 11, 2008 5:17 PM

There is more smelly stuff here than in a Porta-John: Closet Republicans - masquerading as disgruntled Democrats, Obama worshipers, Clinton Bashers and African American racists (who support one candidate over another only because of the color of skin) and these are trumped only by the Democratic Party "leadership" who would sell their own mother to protect their own interest!

John Edwards is a phony, a poverty pimp who is only interested in self aggrandizement. I only hope that he runs for something again so the spotlight can shine his way more forcefully!

Posted by: Disgusted Voter | May 11, 2008 5:19 PM

There is more smelly stuff here than in a Porta-John: Closet Republicans - masquerading as disgruntled Democrats, Obama worshipers, Clinton Bashers and African American racists (who support one candidate over another only because of the color of skin) and these are trumped only by the Democratic Party "leadership" who would sell their own mother to protect their own interest!

John Edwards is a phony, a poverty pimp who is only interested in self aggrandizement. I only hope that he runs for something again so the spotlight can shine his way more forcefully!

Posted by: Disgusted Voter | May 11, 2008 5:20 PM

There is more smelly stuff here than in a Porta-John: Closet Republicans - masquerading as disgruntled Democrats, Obama worshipers, Clinton Bashers and African American racists (who support one candidate over another only because of the color of skin) and these are trumped only by the Democratic Party "leadership" who would sell their own mother to protect their own interest!

John Edwards is a phony, a poverty pimp who is only interested in self aggrandizement. I only hope that he runs for something again so the spotlight can shine his way more forcefully!

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 5:21 PM

There is more smelly stuff here than in a Porta-John: Closet Republicans - masquerading as disgruntled Democrats, Obama worshipers, Clinton Bashers and African American racists (who support one candidate over another only because of the color of skin) and these are trumped only by the Democratic Party "leadership" who would sell their own mother to protect their own interest!

John Edwards is a phony, a poverty pimp who is only interested in self aggrandizement. I only hope that he runs for something again so the spotlight can shine his way more forcefully!

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 5:22 PM

Wonder how the Edward's love child is coming along. Should be nice and ripe by now.

Posted by: Carville | May 11, 2008 5:22 PM

Alright, there are 50 States, but I'm not running for the Presidency. Mr. Obama with his recently reported '57' State count is. Everone mis-states (a little humor). So why pick on Hillary for absolutely everything she says? That was my point in mentioning Obama's 57 States.

Elaine

Posted by: Alright 50 States | May 11, 2008 5:25 PM

The cry baby Hillary supporters need to shut up........and get on with life. She is not the candidate....OK?.....threats about who you will vote for is nothing more than female drama.....

Posted by: mike | May 11, 2008 5:26 PM

The simple fact is that Hillary got beat. I question why if she is the best candidate to beat McCain why is she the second place candidiate in her own party. She at the most crucial point in the race absolutely failed to manage her campaign and recognize the threats to her success. The Rev. Wright was available to raise questions about in 2/07. If Hillary is such an overwhelming favorite to beat Senator McCain how come she lost to an upstart with a name that sounds like America's worst enemy? The Democrats ought to worry about the White House not four more years of Bush-Cheney politics.

Posted by: Peter | May 11, 2008 5:27 PM

Elaine E.

"By the way, Mr. Obama, there are only 52 states, not 57 as you recently reported..."


Pssst, Elaine, about that 57 state thing, it was a JOKE! And there are only 50 states the last time I checked.... I will say this though, this "criticism" is certainly as valid as all of your others!

Posted by: orrg1 | May 11, 2008 5:28 PM

Edwards said: "she has to be really careful that she's not damaging our prospects, the Democratic Party, and our cause, for the fall."

----
that sounds to me like a threat.

Based on the talks about her debts, it seems as if Edwards was sent to let her know, publicly, that the party will not help her with her debts if she insists in running.

That's interesting. That's another fight. But if the party and Obama need her, and they do because neither can win the election without her, how can they be threatening her? I think she's got more power than the party. She can make it or break it.

So, please, pay her debt. The party never stood up against the sexist attacks on her by the media. Now they want to be penny pinching?

Posted by: thetruth | May 11, 2008 5:30 PM

In the coming months and years we'll see stories leaking out about how many conservatives and gopers spammed threads like this one, posing as both Clinton and Obama supporters, trying to start fights within the Democratic Party.

Ask yourself, who benefits the most from Democratic intraparty animosity...?

Posted by: see_the_sockpuppets | May 11, 2008 5:33 PM

Seems to me Edwards has a crystal ball now, did he borrow that ball from Dennis, I wonder.

The question has got to be what is in it for Edwards ? I did not find him very sincere through the debate process. At times he was very condescending, sort of a holier than thou attitude with a twang that is not very popular these days.

Anyhow, if Edwards wants to predict the future that is on him. One day he may wish someone had his back. In the meanwhile the Greatest show on Earth is still on. Am wondering if he is jealous that he is not part of that show ? Another spoiled Elitist, maybe.

Showing fear is not becoming of a President or Vice President. He flinched.

Posted by: Hank Whatever | May 11, 2008 5:35 PM

Elaine: step back, take a breath, and don't imbine or inhale foreign stuff for 30 minutes. Hillary has become an egomaniac in front of our eyes. She has lost the aura of a leader with her rants. I feel sorry for her, but not Bill who is someone to keep far away from the White House. I don't know about elitist, since my daughters didn't go to Stanford, nor have five houses in the family, but for ethics and morals, she is clueless.

Posted by: kabarwilly | May 11, 2008 5:43 PM

Kris said:

"Voting non-Obama is the only way we can effectively register our extreme displeasure with the Democratic National Comittee, Democratic hierarchy and Obama biased news reporting. Enough is enough! We have finally had it and will speak our unhappiness in the November Presidential Elections."

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So, as a registered democrat, you and several others are willing to write in Hillary's name, potentially blowing the election?

You'd rather McCain win in November? You really want a continuation of Bush's policies rather than a democrat in the White House? Is your hatred that strong?

Unbelievable.

I am an Obama supporter, but I've always maintained that if Hillary won the nomination, she would get my vote.

I'm just amazed that people would throw the election away because they don't like the media frenzy or whatever.

Posted by: Allison | May 11, 2008 5:45 PM

The majority of Democrats under 35 prefer Obama as the nominee for the party. I imagine it is difficult for some members of the party to take. If Obama wins, then he is the new leader of our country, and if he loses, then he is the liberal version of Goldwater.

Moreover, Clinton squandered the backing of nearly the entire Democratic establishment. She has a demonstrable record of being morally and intellectually dishonest.

The best example of this behavior is the idea of an impossible to implement gas tax holiday that every economist of record discredits, and then she added insult to injury by referring to them using the trite and nebulous term "elites."

Having once derided the Bush administration for this precise behavior regarding scientists' and they opinion of global warming, she now actively engages in it for near term political benefit. This phoniness and pandering are the the attributes of politicians that new voters despise.

Posted by: JD | May 11, 2008 5:45 PM

Elaine E
Can you please tell me what are the 52 states?
I thought there are 50 states and Washington DC.

Posted by: bdg | May 11, 2008 5:47 PM

May 21, 2008 is the critical day for John Edwards. That is the day that Barack Obama will have reached the point that Hillary can not overtake him in the number of elected delegates. On that day he needs to declare for Mr Obama. That will eliminate the possibility of Clinton winning by stealing the nomination by the Rules Committee.

Running against Clinton, Obama has won because of understanding of the desire of the electorate for change. Integrity also has distinguished the two. Against McCain change will be an important theme but he must appeal more to working class voters.

They do not understand what a community organizer does and how that will impact on their lives. He needs to give more detail on his professional biography. He also will need to stress the importance of Afghanistan so that if there is news on the country in the fall they will know that in foreign policy he is ahead of the curve as he was in Iraq, not reacting as Bush has been.

On the basis of the mood of the country he can squeak out a victory. To make it a blowout he has to better relate to working class voters.


Posted by: Ron M | May 11, 2008 5:48 PM

Elaine E

There are only 50 states. You're mistaken.

Posted by: vmunikoti | May 11, 2008 5:50 PM

Sockpuppets, the subversive tactics have been going on for years and years. I think it borders on industrial espionage myself. Don't expect republicans to do anything about it as they may catch themselves in the act. Although that would not be the first time zealots messed up their own brothers in democracy. I hope there is public discovery available about parties sabotaging the democratic process with or without propaganda

Posted by: Hank Whatever | May 11, 2008 5:50 PM

Sorry to get off track. the article is about Edwards and the conver should stay there. He is a strange man. Trial lawyers are great actors. Saddly, he is a rich lawyer, he could have been a great actor. Sadly, he is spineless and groping for attention. What leader would want him on their team or trust him? He spurned Kerry while the VP candidate. He wants its both ways,to be serious and not risk taking. He is another Southern Fop. a pity.

Posted by: kabarwilly | May 11, 2008 5:51 PM

"They've already lost our respect."

Anonymous, (aka svreader), your mask is slipping. You're referring to Democrats as "they".

You're supposed to say "we", remember?

Churning out repetitive propaganda sixteen hours a day must really addle the brain, eh?

Posted by: OD | May 11, 2008 5:52 PM

"They've already lost our respect."

Anonymous, (aka svreader), your mask is slipping. You're referring to Democrats as "they".

You're supposed to say "we", remember?

Churning out repetitive propaganda sixteen hours a day must really addle the brain, eh?

Posted by: OD | May 11, 2008 5:53 PM

The only thing compelling about Hillary Clinton's candidacy is how low and how pandering she can be to try to win votes. She's lower than Richard Nixon in my view. She epitomizes the ugly American who apparently doesn't think that anyone except her as the great white hope is capable of thinking or running anything. She should go off to lecture at some university and let someone with a more open mind run things.

Posted by: Paul J. Nolan | May 11, 2008 5:55 PM

On the 57 states issue, I did not hear the quote, but there are 57 primaries and caucuses. Could that have been what he was referring to?

All 50 states, D.C., Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Northern Marianas, Virgin Islands, and Democrats Abroad.

Adds up to 57.

Posted by: Allison Elledge | May 11, 2008 5:59 PM

On the 57 states issue, I did not hear the quote, but there are 57 primaries and caucuses. Could that have been what he was referring to?

All 50 states, D.C., Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Northern Marianas, Virgin Islands, and Democrats Abroad.

Adds up to 57.

Posted by: Allison | May 11, 2008 5:59 PM

All Democratic leaders should condemn Hillary Clinton's playing of the race card like Richard Nixon. Its an insult to all peoples' intelligence and suggests that in the deepest part of her heart -- if she has one -- she will stop at nothing to manipulate people for power.

Posted by: Paul J. Nolan | May 11, 2008 6:02 PM

Back in the day, I was a huge Clinton supporter (by the way, back in the day was like last year), today that has changed. Clearly, Obama has demonstrated that he can do well in the general election. If you examine the coalition of folks that he has brought together, i.e., blacks, whites, young, not so young, Independents, and Republicans (Operation Chaos not withstanding), there is no way that you can reasonably conclude that he is less, not more likely to do well as a candidate in November.

Also, contrary to political spin, the base is uber-important. Given Hillary's early support of the Iraq war, this is an achilles heel for her. White rural Republicans will not vote for a D in November. Period. We will need overwhelming support from our base. Obama has proven that he can not only rally the base, but he can reach beyond it, which is not too shabby for a general.

If you visit my website: http://www.drchuckspeaks.com/ you will see that I have been a huge supporter of Bill and Hillary, ergo, this is not some knee jerk reaction from a person swept up in Obamerica. I carefully considered the facts.

Moreover, Hillary will be able to mobilize the GOP base like never before. The disdain they have for the Clintons is legendary and, more importantly, politically damaging for Democrats. Also, when one considers the number of folks who are voting for the first time, in greater numbers than we've seen in recent memory, that is largely attributable to Obama. We all know this. Let me be clear -- It's not that Hillary is a bad person or a bad candidate. It's that she's not the right presidential candidate for the Democratic party at this time. She must concede. The outstanding superdelegates who have not committed can end this. They should end this. This intraparty bickering cannot continue. We are now hurting the likely candidate and the party for November.

So, any superdelegate who hangs on beyond May, knowing this reality, is a coward. This includes Sen. Edwards.

Posted by: Dr. Chuck | May 11, 2008 6:03 PM

There are differences between McCain and Bush but hardly a distinction when it comes to the three biggest issues, Iraq, economy and healthcare.

Carly Fiorina, a good vice presidential choice. Might snag a few ardent feminists. She talks a good game but does not deliver. McCain would hardly want someone more competent than himself.
George Bush made the same type of choice when he chose Cheney.

Posted by: Ronnn | May 11, 2008 6:03 PM

Edwards, I wish you hadn't dropped out. You still get the nod!! =)

Obama '08, but Hillary still gets the nod!

C'mon Oregon!! Deliver a great margin!

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 11, 2008 6:08 PM

Edwards, I wish you hadn't dropped out. You still get the nod!! =)

Obama '08, but Hillary still gets the nod!

C'mon Oregon!! Deliver a great margin!

Posted by: Obama2008 | May 11, 2008 6:08 PM

Here's what's very disturbing to me. Many democrats claim that they will not vote for Obama. Many white democrats already admitted that they will not vote for him simply because of the color of his skin (he is bi-racial not black) And I suspect that more feel this way, as racism is something that people are reluctant to admit. It is very sad that some democrats would rathewr see this country go down than to support a black man (sad). If McCain gets in and continue George Bush's third time, and as a consequence the country is destroyed it would be very very sad. Our number one enemy is not Al Queda or any other terrorist group. Our number one enemy in America is RACISM.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:11 PM

I'll fight to the death to preserve the right of every person to speak his/her mind. The tone in this blog and throughout the country is disgraceful. Our country's in a mess - from security, economic and fundamental democratic perspectives - and these comments are the best we can do? Karl Rove must be delighted. His brand of gutter politics has spread through both parties. I'm unaffiliated and will stay that way - and will vote for the candidates who articulate policies that best serve all of us, Republican, Democrat, Unaffiliated, rich, poor, African-American, Hispanic-American, European-American, male, female, etc.
Enough of red and blue states. Isn't the flag red, white and blue?

Posted by: muleman | May 11, 2008 6:12 PM

I'm really saddened at all the vitriolic comments posted on this thread. Frankly, Barack Obama was not my first, second, or third choice of nominee, and until fairly recently I would have been more than adequately happy with either Sen. Obama or Sen. Clinton, and either would be VASTLY preferable to the probability of John McCain's further trashing our great nation. I felt that Sen. Clinton would probably make a better president BUT that taking everything into consideration, Senator Obama would be more electable. (Given who the nominee of the GOP is, I don't really take much stock in the fact that one particular Democrat, or any particular Democrat, could come out on top in a Democratic primary.)

But, when Senator Clinton decided that the only way she could win was by acting like Tanya Harding, I had to change my perspective. Ronald Rotten got so many things wrong. But if there was ONE thing that he got right (even if it was about the only thing), it was his 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican.

Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton forgot -- or chose to ignore -- the fact that the goal is NOT to make Hillary the nominee (although for them that is of course important) but rather to get a Democrat elected president so as to curb the attacks on the rule of law and on the vast majority of Americans who are not zillionaires and on the light of liberty and freedom that Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, and their accomplices are trying to extinguish.

Of course Hillary supporters have a right to feel disappointed that their candidate is coming in second. But it is vitally important to KEEP OUR EYES ON THE PRIZE. No more Supreme Court injustices like Antonin Scalia, who says that people should get over the fact that he helped stage a coup d'etat and is OK with torture as long as it is not used for punishment, like Samuel Alito, who sees nothing wrong with a president taking power like a Warsaw Pact dictator, like John Roberts, who saw nothing wrong with putting a 14-year-old girl in handcuffs for eating potato chips in the subway.

Again, Obama was not my first, second, or third choice. But he's my choice now. And for background, I'm white, male, and 60 years old and have never come close to earning $100K a year.

Best wishes, and "Can't we all get along?"

Posted by: EdA | May 11, 2008 6:13 PM

Hillary supporters = McCain supporters.

Posted by: john | May 11, 2008 6:15 PM

I have been independant and democratic in the past. I currently live abroad and love socialist government but i will NOT vote Obama. I do not believe he can win it. A huge number of older (aka baby boomers & x gen) do not want Obama as their candidate. If the party chooses Obama we will have a REPUBLICAN president in november. These groups of people are not simply looking at race( as the obama people claim) but at experience, reliabity, and personal convictions. I am many others cannot in good faith vote for Obama for a lots of reasons including his inability to handle simple matters within his own state he represents, intended non voting on particular issues, disrespect for his own country, and the list goes on. We will not vote for Obama because we do LOVE our country and want someone that can represent all people and not one particular group of people.

Posted by: Dawn | May 11, 2008 6:15 PM

Maybe this really isn't about Hillary being the problem.
Maybe it might be that the issue is now news that isn't about hard data any more.
Maybe its what Rove hath wrought in making news manipulation the New Media.

Maybe what this really means, just maybe, is that there is something wrong with the two party system that can come up with such inappropriate choices in the midst of the worst crises we are incrementally facing.

I don't care how young Obama is or how old McCain is.
An election is essentially a job search and neither of these candidates strikes me as credible or capable. So we have the extraordinary good luck to have a third person who is. But we should discard her because some pundit says it would do damage to the Democratic party.

Why not let it?

Do we sacrifice the best qualified so that a party that has shown us what it can't do for the past eight years can keep not doing it?

If all the Democratic Party is good for is what is what it has shown us it's been, why would anyone expect citizen loyalty to it?

How loyal has it been to us?

If anyone has the guts to go off and embody the idea and spirit of being an Independent , it's the Clintons.
There are just too many of us who believe in Hillary Clinton and find no credibility in what there is supposed be to subordinate herself to.
We are supposed to vote for Obama if we don't , very sensibly , want Mccain. But why would we want to vote for Obam?
There simply is nothing there other than displays of increasingly bad judgement. And yet another politician who has no relevance to the average American and no connection to us.

I am so disgusted with the hypocrisy if this election.

It's not supposed to be about race, but is it EVER. And in the oddest way. White racism is rightfully not tolerated. It's gone th eother way. if you are black you get a free pass to say the most vulgar ignorant things and be unchecked in continuing. Worse you use to get to use it as a justification when there is no justifying your behavior.

Of course what this will do is cause onlookers to go over to McCain. Who, unlike Bush, comes across as a kindly ,affable sort of warmonger who knows the power of schmooze to defuse....Just listen to him with Jon Stewart compared to Obama being interviewed. Millions will and Obama does not come out ahead.

It's not supposed to be about misogyny, but every time I post about Hillary Clinton I've been called---and this is just today's load-without anyone ever having laid eyes on me or my beliefs--an old wrinkled feminist.
As if any of those things were fates worse than dying young and stupid and under the thumb of whoever calls the party shots.
Some of us just know better than to get flocked.

It's a Twilight Zone scenario to see the Obamabots adopting the ad hominem nastiness of the right and taking to it so exceptionally easily.
We now have an alternate reality where Obamabots have taken over marketing the media and simply don't reflect anything about what really exists every time I converse with anyone I know. i have just not heard much interest in buying Brand Obama. He's being foisted on us. And we all know what we see around us as opposed to what we view on-screen.

As far as i am concerned, Obama is a marketed insipidity with no track record and no accomplishments.
But his followers are a credit to Karl Rove.

Probably the true legacy of Karl Rove is that he has pioneered the death of the two party system.
If anyone deserves that distinction, how fitting it should be Karl Rove.

He showed the world what it is to have America play dirty as a matter of course .
And now it seems we can't stop.

No one has asked these hysterical pundits what any American citizen gets from voting for another ambitious rhetoritician like Obama.
It's somehow like he is the first person to run on what we want to hear.
And like this inexperienced lambchop is going to be able to deliver when up against a Congress that will spend four years relentlessly chewing him up on tier way, as always, to cashing lobbyist's chits.

And no democratic party wonk sits there and looks at putting Obama up against a personable, intelligent war hero who is a longtime congressional veteran who just happens to be a warmonger and corporate shill and thinks about whether Obama has anything possible to show for the balance.
It's a Karl Rove wet dream, folks.

How can we have lost all our foresight.
Maybe the real problem with Democratic Party is that it is now so decrepit and useless and flat-out vestigial, there is no point in NOT creating a third party.
Because right now it is functioning as a Republican Party subsidiary in providing a candidate that will conveniently steer people to voting for McCain

gala1

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:19 PM

I second Dr Chuck's statement above. I, however, have been an ABC (anybody but Clinton) all along. I came to Obama in December.

What Hillary supporters do not acknowledge is that you have to be tough to compete against the Clintons. It really has been two against one. He will have beaten them by the only measure that counts total delegates.

Toughness, integrity, independence and competence quite a combination in one candidate. Clinton certainly has one of the four.

Posted by: Ronnn | May 11, 2008 6:20 PM

Campaign racetrack very long, doo-dah do-dah...

Make more money if it go long doo-dah, do-dah...

All the dough they make
is all the dough they take
from Johnny, yea Johnny

So run that campaign long long long all do-dah night and all the do-dah day.

sank-u, sank-u very mush...

Posted by: Truthhurts | May 11, 2008 6:21 PM

Maybe because I'm from Michigan where we are concerned about the privacy of our vote (and the Hillary supporters in our state govt. tried to take that right away from us by fixing this election in such a way that what ballot we chose on the primary date would become public knowledge - something most of you uninformed people on this board know nothing about. We rejected that, by the way, but in turn they moved our election forward and rigged it in such a way that her name was the only one on the ballot). But I couldn't care less about who anyone is voting for or not voting for. Who cares. All that matters is who shows up on election day. Who you vote for is a private matter. This ridiculous threatening of 'if the nominee is _____ than I'm voting McCain'. Really, who cares what vote you make? Not me.

As for those of you who are yelling "disenfranchisement" of the Michigan voters. Personally - screw you. Where were you when we voted? Did you care about the fact that the Hillary supporters (which includes all our top Democratic leaders of our state) only offered us a banana republic vote with only one name on the ballot? Why weren't you concerned about us then? Where were the calls for a fair election? Why is there no talk on this board of the 40% of voters who showed up to vote uncommitted against Hillary? Why no talk of representing their vote - one made in an election that didn't count yet they knew somehow she would try to warp this false election to her favor. What about all the Democratic voters who crossed over (which we can in our state because we have an open primary) and voted in the Republican primary because it actually counted. Are you concerned about disenfranchising those voters? Because that's exactly what Hillary wants to do. She only wants a re-vote with the voters who voted for her. How is this fair?

The truth is (and this if for all of you who lump the Midwest into one thought) that if there was a fair election in this state it would be overwhelmingly won by Obama. This isn't a rust belt state. This isn't a predominantly "white" state and we definitely are not Ohio or Pennsylvania. We are closer to Wisconsin and Minnesota who both went to Obama. Don't you think we know that one of the reasons this election was rigged the way it was is because the only way Hillary could win this state was to be the only name on the ballot? What was she so afraid of to have a fair election with everyone voting with all names on the ballot?

I'm tired of hearing about all this disenfranchisement. If she was truly concerned about democracy - she wouldn't have even participated in such a false election. And, she wouldn't have the audacity (to borrow a word) to claim a win.

Stop lumping us with Florida. Two completely different situations. We will only feel disenfranchised if such a false election ACTUALLY counts. It didn't count when we voted and it shouldn't count now. How many people didn't even show up to vote because IT DIDN'T COUNT? If you want to talk fairness, then you have to look at all the sides - not just what supports HRC.

Posted by: Iris Jones | May 11, 2008 6:23 PM

Why would Republicans have a problem voting for a coke head? They did it twice, 2000 and 2004. They also seem to have no qualms about voting for a notorious drunk. These "Hillary Supporters" are really Ditto Head members of Operation Chaos.

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008 6:29 PM

Why doesn't David Axelrod let loose his pony tail he keeps hiding from the cameras. He is a hippe in disguise - and hides other things that are wrong with his boss, Barry Sotero...Obama.

Posted by: ObamaWho? | May 11, 2008 6:29 PM

Let's face it: we are not ready for an Afro-American president, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE SAY WE ARE.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:32 PM

For God's sake! Enough with this "Hillary could damage the party" baloney! If Hillary's supporters don't support Obama, it won't be because "Hillary damaged the party!" It will be because many of us refuse to vote for an inexperienced neophyte to hold the most powerful office in the world! I respect Hillary, but no matter how much she throws her support to Obama, she isn't going to convince me to vote for him. Obama is absolutely NOT prepared to be President! I believe the Democratic leadership is seeing the writing on the wall. They know Obama isn't going to win in November. Well, you get what you ask for, boys!

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:33 PM

I was going to stay out of this until....
"Obama is the product of his mother's unyielding belief in humanity and her story should be highlighted more in this campaign."

This is exactly what bothers me about Obama supporters. Obama was only raised by his mother alone for 8 years. Non of them as the mother of a teenager. If your idea of raising a son is to drop him off at Grandmas' house, then she was a phenomenal mother. It would be far more appropriate to say he is the product of being raised in a white family with good character values. His mother and father had bugged out on him and he was left behind. If you look to these two people as role models well then you get what you sow.

Posted by: RetCombatVet | May 11, 2008 6:36 PM

Dawn 6:15 PM.

You were not forthright in your antipathy for Obama. You do not like his gender. The rest are just side issues. I did not get the sense you thought highly of McCain either.

Your ilk has tried bombarding the superdelegates with this type of verbiage. You may have been one of them.

I happen to feel like it is anyone but Clinton, but I will freely admit that voting for McCain would be too much. Give a third party candidate a thought, or write in Ron Paul. That's what I decided to do.

Posted by: Ronnn | May 11, 2008 6:37 PM

I agree with you - Hillary will note damage the party. And, I, too, will not vote for an empty shirt who can speak, albeit words of change, and not explain EXACTLY what that means. I would rather vote for McCain for status quo than have someone who is experienced and someone who thinks that the Office of the President is an internship.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:37 PM

How kind of Senator Edwards to be so concerned. This Democratic Party has sat on the sidelines and watched two campaigns destroy the character of the Democratic Party. Party leaders have unfairly displayed bias to one candidate. Now, they are doing their best to destroy Mrs. Clinton's chances of being a V.P. nominee. I remember a time when the Democratic Party barely survived off the popularity of the Clintons, now they're kicking them to the curb. This country prides itself on touting democracy and now they want Senator Clinton to thrown in the towel just to satisfy over eager party leaders. People quickly forget all the good things the Clintons have done for this country. Are they perfect? No they are not. If everyone can overlook Senator Obamas "difficulties" why not treat Senator Clinton the same? This campaign was decided a long time ago. This party is divided as much as the country is and Democratic Party leaders should be ashamed of themselves for letting these campaigns get out of hand. It's so very sad. I never thought I'd see the day when this party would treat their own party members like trash. Use them when they need them and through them out with the dirty water. I would've been happy with either one as the nominee whether it was as V.P or Pres. thank you Democratic Party leaders for spoiling this campaign and making it so biased and corrupt. Shame on all of you for not hearing the will of the people.

Posted by: calikid | May 11, 2008 6:38 PM

HATERS! HATERS! HATERS!
HILLARY AND BARACK ARE SO CLOSE IDEALOGICALY WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S SUCH A CLOSE RACE? EITHER ONE OF THEM WILL MOVE US IN THE SAME DIRECTION...HOPEFULLY. AWAY FROM THESE FIASCO YEARS OF GWB.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT MCCAIN HE DESERVES SOME KUDOS JUST FOR BEING IN THE RACE STUCK WITH PEDALLING THE REPUBLICAN LINE, WHICH ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN HAS FIGURED OUT IS THE EXPRESS LANE TO DISASTER.
WHO EVER THE NOMINEE IS YOU WILL SEE THE OTHER FIGHTING TO GET THEM INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. SHOULDN'T YOU BE FOLLOWING THEIR EXAMPLE IF YOU BELIEVE IN THEM SO MUCH? THEY KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER THAN ANY OF US KNOW THEM. IN THE END YOU WILL SEE ONE THROW THEIR FULL SUPPORT TO THE OTHER

Posted by: ED DALLESPORT, WA | May 11, 2008 6:39 PM

Here's something else that's disturbing. Some democrats are looking for excuses to not vote for OBAMA. They cite his experience as a main reason. Look -- Hillary Clinton claimed 35 years of experience, a claimed that has been adequately discounted. Sure she has experience in healthcare (A plan that failed)
She has some experience in foreign relations (but clearly raised doubts with her misspeaking regarding the Bosnia sniper fire. She could claim NAFTA but she also claimed that she was against it. If the Hillary democrats believed that experience was a real issue, they would have never supported Hillary. So -- back to my original point. Our fellow democrats rather see a Replublican in office that to vote for a black man. If George Bush's policy is continued it won't be because of OBAMA's electibility but RACISM. This is what I read in an article. See it's not just those who support Obama but all those who don't care about skin color or income, or culture or social status
In a way, Hillary Clinton has been right in her analysis. Blacks will certainly vote for Obama, as will the whites who have put Obama over the top in the polls. In the current environment many Independents and even some Republicans will support Barack Obama for president. So, the only question is whether white voters who support Hillary Clinton would rather elect the first Black president or would rather vote to continue the Iraq War for 100 years, while also starting a fresh war with Iran before the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are concluded. The answer will tell us an awful lot about the progressive bonafides of Hillary Clinton supporters.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:39 PM

What I would like to know is what Obama is hiding from us? To not be vetted completely for the most important office in this country is just beyond me - and the people who don't take the time, because of laziness, to demand this, is incomprehensible. His book is a tell-all - read it and see exactly what you'll have if he is elected. It is not pretty.

Posted by: Fishing | May 11, 2008 6:39 PM

Elaine E at 4:33 has written extensively about her candidate Hillary. Fair enough, because I was also once a devout Clintons supporter against the vast right wing conspiracy until she became best friends with them and Bill appeared on Rush Limbaugh radio show. As if that is not enough, Hillary and terry McAuliffe proclaimed Foxnews - fair and balanced. I was not in Bosnia to know what happened, but I do know FOXnews.

My major problem is the judgmental part of your note, as if Obama does not deserve to be where he is. You cited Hillary's experience. I for one believe experienced people would show wisdom based on their experience and more importantly their experience would show on how they talk, act, more importantly on results.

In order to stretch this veneer experience, Hillary went to Bosnia and the rest is history. Remember, at this juncture we watch carefully that our leaders tell the truth. Why? because Bush lied to us to go to war and now we have > 4000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead, so many maimed etc. More Americans died than 9-11, and more Iraqis are killed than what Sadam did for decades, not to mention the million displaced. Secondly, if she were experienced, how come she is tricked into voting for the war by Bush - tricked by Bush!! Hillary admitted that she did not read the intelligence report that was available for her before she voted. If the experience cannot help her for this, then for what?

Hillary is in fact the first American politician who irresponsibly threatened to obliterate a country. Even Bush with his bravado did not say such irresponsible thing. Never mind some of those people want to be like us, aspire for our way of life, but their authoritarian govt. would not let them. Talk about making tons of enemies in just a word - 'just a word'. Is this something an experienced politician would say?

What kind of leader would say divisive things such as uneducated rural whites would not vote for the black candidate? We democrats take this seriously, we always take the republicans to task for their 'southern strategy'. Little did we know, our own candidate would bring it to middle America - in WVA. I grant you in this case she did show her 35 years experience. We want leaders that unite us not divide us.

What kind of experience leads to such dissastrous campaign; the dissaray in staff, the poor money management, etc. I remember early in the campaign, Hillary talking about her managing experience. She attempted to lecture Obama how the president needs to be a good manager. Obama said, I will put able people to manage it and I will set the tone with policy. Of course, the 35 years experience Hillary mocked him for that. Now, we see Hillary, the manager, in big trouble managing her campaign staff and finance, not to mention loosing the votes. Obama's campaign is running smoothly with unprecedented participation from average Americans. How come the most experienced politician could not rally 1.5 million donors, most first time including myself. I was for the Clintons for the taking.

It makes me wonder, if the 35 years experience cannot do any of this, then what? How come the experienced politician could not rally the youth of this country?

I am sorry, but when you write, 'When Hillary has spoken her truth,...' I don't have to tell you what comes to my mind, it is not just Bosnia, it is NAFTA, her passion for MI/FL delegates (I am sure as a supporter you may have excused her stance to agree not to sit them when she was ahead, now she cares about that they should be heard when behind in the votes, and all these bending the rules to suit her ambition). These are the kind of issues with Hillary that has forced some of us who used to be her supporters over the years to look for the alternative. We could not see her as we used to. That goes for Bill as well - they really dissappointed me.

Posted by: selam | May 11, 2008 6:40 PM

I supported Hillary, but will vote for McCain and also contribute for his campaign. I am not impressed as to how the whole DNC establishment and the media (CNN, MSNBC etc) have from day one put her down and Obama up. Well guess what, I will excercise my democratic right and vote for anyone BUT obama. I don't want high taxes and bigger government. I would rather have McCain fight the terrorists and make the Bush tax cuts permanent.

Obama's tax and spend policies will make us the United states of Europe! (USE).

Posted by: Ram | May 11, 2008 6:40 PM

Alright sisters! Thanks for speaking your mind about how angry you are about how Hillary has been treated. I have yet to find ANY reporter speak about ths phenomenon, so I am forced to read commentary on political articles to find out I'm not the only one that feels this way. Now I know why I think the media is trying to influence this election- because they are!

Posted by: sarabellum | May 11, 2008 6:42 PM

Obama is so two-faced. He complains any time someone says something negative about him, but then he turns around and does the same thing and the press just lets it go. HE IS A RACIST and is damaging this country even before he is the candidate. Hateful racist=Obama

Posted by: BlackandWhite | May 11, 2008 6:43 PM

(Updated)

Dear Democratic Party Hierarchy & American press core:

I have been a life member of the Democratic Party, as have been all of my family and indeed my Irish ancestors all the way back to the early 1800's, when they first came to America. You need to know how truly disgusted and angry I am over all the shenanigans that have been going on against Hillary Clinton, since day number one of the primary elections. You have both painted and showed the ugliest picture that you could possibly find of Hillary, while showing a young, vibrant Barrack Obama. When Hillary has spoken her truth, demonstrated her experience, and connection to everyday America, she has been ridiculed as inflammatory, divisive, racist and mean spirited; when Mr. Obama speaks essentially the same truth, but in more flowery words aimed at the young and more liberal sector of the Democratic Party and Independents, he has been lauded as the messiah, the healer, incapable of doing any wrong. When Hillary has mis-stepped, she has been beaten down to the ground and spit upon by the American press, as well as by much of the Democratic hierarchy; when Obama has mis-stepped, he has been helped back up and offered assistance. When Hillary has talked about her life experiences in politics, it has been so totally twisted out of reality as to represent an obscene monster-like essence; when Barrack's lack of experience, especially in foreign affairs has been brought up, it has quietly been hidden from the public, made to seem immaterial. Hillary talks of using experience to enact change effectively and rightfully; Barack talks of changing the American way of politics to enact a needed, future change. But the press has reported Clinton as tired, corrupt Hillary politics, while presenting a young, glowing vibrant all knowing Obama future. What utter irresponsibility and illusions the American press core and Democratic hierarchy have pandered to the American public. The fact of the matter is that both of the candidates are outstanding in their own right. But, Hillary has a much richer life experience in all areas. Barrack Obama simply does not possess the same political knowledge and wisdom that Hillary has accrued throughout her life.
By the way, Mr. Obama, there are only 50 states, not 57 as you recently reported. But, perhaps you were only joking...

Then, there has been the ridiculous mess with the Democratic Party's refusal to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan. Rules, rules, rules. What utter nonsense. There are, I understand, bylaws that would allow exceptions to be made. Obviously Obama has not wanted Florida and Michigan's votes counted, because it could cost him the election. The Democratic Party hierarchy should know better and have acted neutrally, somehow getting Florida's legally certified votes counted, and Michigan's primary re-done. Yet, it has been clear from day one, that Dean (the Democratic National Committee boss) has been in the pocket of Obama (who in turn has been backed by Senator Edward Kennedy). Not surprisingly, the Democrat National Committee has not championed getting these two states votes counted. In the case of Florida, it is one of the swing states. How extremely unwise that the Democratic powers to be have refused to seat Florida and Michigan's votes, especially interesting since Florida's 'illegal' voting date was pushed through by a Republican controlled legislature in Florida! Pushed through by a REPUBLICAN Florida legislature: So why in the world would the Democratic National Committee want to "punish" Florida's Democrats? Come November, Florida's Democrats may well decide to "punish" the Democratic Partiy back in retaliation and vote McCain. The Republicans will, I assure you, welcome the Floridian Democrats with two open arms. Why doesn't the Democratic National Committee just shot itself in the leg....

Finally, the Democratic hierarchy and the American press core have not been exactly honest about Hillary's greater electibility power. No matter how you cut it, the mighty electoral swing states are Hillary states. Based on the winner takes all electoral votes policy in the Presidential elections, Hillary has already won the Presidential Elections. Interestingly enough, very little has been said about this by the Democratic hierarchy and by the the news. How inconvenient this will be, if an Obama ticket losses the November elections!

In closing, for the first time I seriously am thinking of not voting Democratic, but rather registering my extreme displeasure with the Democratic Party by writing in Hillary Clinton's name as my choice for President. Many will say this is insane, ignorant, and stupid. Yet, in my conscience I must and will do what I think is right and that is to let the Democratic Party system know how absolutely disgusted with them I am. P.S. Democratic Party: I know many, many others, who feel exactly the same way I do and who plan to register their great upset the same way--- at the polls in November.

Carpe Diem, Hillary Clinton!


Posted by: | May 11, 2008 6:44 PM

I laugh when I get emails from the DNC requesting a donation to help win the election in November. What a joke. I will never again give them one cent - ever - in fact I think I will donate to John McCain's campaign and will vote for him in the fall if Obama is the candidate. With him as the candidate, the Dems have already lost the respect of so many people from their party.

Posted by: DNCnoMORE | May 11, 2008 6:47 PM

To let Black America and a bunch of college kids elect the President of the United States is abolutely assinine. My God, what is happening in this country?

Posted by: Unreal | May 11, 2008 6:56 PM

To let Black America and a bunch of college kids elect the President of the United States is abolutely assinine. My God, what is happening in this country?

Posted by: Unreal | May 11, 2008 6:57 PM

To let Black America and a bunch of college kids elect the President of the United States is abolutely assinine. My God, what is happening in this country?

Posted by: Unreal | May 11, 2008 6:57 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)
DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)
EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARES FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 6:57 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)
DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)
EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARES FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 6:59 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)
DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)
EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARES FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 6:59 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)
DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)
EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARE FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 6:59 PM

Look this election has already shown that many voters do not care about the color of a candidate's skin. The issue of race is divisive. Someone mentioned Obama's upbring. Let me tell you, pointing to someone's social status as an indicator of their character is anti-American. America has chosen in the past presidents who were viewed as inexperienced. Look John McCain, Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama has never been president, so none has experience. People generally elect a president who has character, intelligence, integrity, and dignity. Sure Americans have made mistakes but I believe that the true Americans who believe and uphold the American spirit will give Barack Obama a chance.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 7:02 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)
DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)
EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARE FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 7:03 PM

MISLEADING AND INACCURATE HEADLINE!

EDITORS, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

Posted by: scott v | May 11, 2008 7:05 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)

DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)

EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARES FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 7:05 PM

Obama has not earned the chance to be President.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 7:05 PM

MISLEADING AND INACCURATE HEADLINE!

EDITORS, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

Posted by: scott v | May 11, 2008 7:06 PM

Obama has not earned the chance to be President.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 7:06 PM

Going only by what McCain will do to the supreme court, anyone who claims that they are a committed Democrat, let alone progressive, but will now vote for McCain is in no way progressive and would not have voted for Obama anyway.

Vote McSame and:

>kiss Roe v Wade goodbye

>say hello to war with Iran

>say hello to war with N Korea

>watch the economy continue to benefit the corporate rich and screw everyone else

>watch our civil liberties continue to dwindle

>etc, etc etc

Posted by: see_the_sockpuppets | May 11, 2008 7:07 PM

No ,race has nothing to do with this election,you are as big a dope as that loser edwards.

Posted by: mcnertny | May 11, 2008 7:08 PM

Fear not, all this will pass. As columnist Ellen Goodman wrote ten years ago, the Clintons are like food poisoning. In time, they will pass out the natural way.

Posted by: bodo | May 11, 2008 7:10 PM

The Clintons approach seems to be if I can not have it nobody can. This is an attempt to supercede the majority of the people. It almost appears the Clintions are creating the argument for a third party. The party leadership need to take a page from the Republicans and shut this down. No single individual can put their individual asperations ahead of the majority's will.

So once upon a time I respected the Clintons and thought the only interest they had was that of the country. But their behavior is to the contrary.

So, in the words of two former presidents, read my lips, what is, is and that is a fact.

Posted by: cdiddy | May 11, 2008 7:10 PM

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary should not go all the way to convention.

As number one idiot DONNA BRAZIL says, RULES ARE RULES. OK?
PLEASE EMAIL HOWARD DEAN AND HILLARY TO GET HER OFF THE RULES COMMITTEE!(After she blew up on msnbc/cnn in defense of Obama, she needs to be taken OFF the RULES COMMITTEE).

HILLARY HAS EVERY RIGHT JOHN EDWARDS TO GO TO CONVENTION.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SUPER DELEGATES ARE JUST DRIP DROPPING
IN, WHY ARE THE REALLY BIG GUYS WAiTING?

They KNOW Wright's other shoe is ready to fall and God knows what else from this HAMAS, REZKO, AYERS, FARAKAN LOVING OPPORTUNIST is going to come out before convention?

Call me stupid, Stupid, but Hillary is only following the rules, now to:
EDWARDS, TED BOOZER KILLER KENNEDY
ROCKEFELLER (ARE YOU EVER A DISAPPOINTMENT TO WEST VIRGINIA)

DONNA BRAZIL (BIASED -- TAKE HER OFF RULES COMMITTEE)

EUGENE ROBINSON - USED TO BE A FAVORITE OF MINE TIL HE TURNED RACIST)
TIM BOOZER RUSSERT - what a biased unkempt reporter)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW people who need to SHUT UP and let HILLARY GO ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION!!!!!

HILLARY IS GOING ALL THE WAY TO CONVENTION -- THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL SURVIVE NICELY WITHOUT YOU POOR EXCUSES FOR DEMOCRATS.

HILLARY CARES FOR THE BACK BREAKING AMERICANS WHO NEVER STAND A CHANCE IN THIS ROTTEN GOVERNMENT. SOMEBODY GOOD COMES ALONG, AND THE OLD GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT. YES, OBAMA, THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON YOU PREACH ABOUT BUT TAKE THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT!

BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL RUIN AMERICA!

OBAMA'S ABILITY TO INCITE A CROWD IS TANTAMOUNT TO ANY OTHER CULT WHO STEALS THE YOUNG AND THE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

NO TO OBAMMA

Posted by: Grandma Dee | May 11, 2008 7:12 PM

RACE HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS ELECTION - DON'T BE SO STUPID

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 7:13 PM

grand(old party)mother dee,

Nice caps -- you gop trolls are funny.

Posted by: see_the_sockpuppets | May 11, 2008 7:21 PM

You know I initially supported Hillary Clinton because of the Clintons support of the black community. I like many Americans had questions regarding Barack Obama's experience. Plus the black community was not sure that a bi-racial candidate held more interest in the black community. Barack Obama still hasn't stood up for just the black community but he did stand up for all Americans. That's good enough for me. But I am very concern that some democrats will dare to vote for McCain who vowed to stay in Iraq for 100 years. That means more lives and trillions of dollars committed to a war that no one has yet explained. This will inevitably destroy our economy and utterly destroy America, while the big oil companies will only profit.

You mean to tell me that some of you, my fellow democrats would rather see people die, the economy destroyed, and America fall, than to vote for a bi-racial candidate? The fate of America will depend on unity, equality, and justice. The rest of the world has an overwhelmingly favor of Obama. Why can't we get it right? Don't let our cultural, and ethnic differences destroy us. We are one nation under God with liberty and justice for all.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 7:26 PM

grand(old party)mother dee,

Nice caps -- you gop trolls are funny.

Posted by: see_the_sockpuppets | May 11, 2008 7:26 PM

Edwards is just wrong. First he cannot predict the future. It is very rovian of him to try to change reality, the Presidential campaign is not over. There is a chance to take more money away from the opposition with extending the race.

There are many disgruntled republicans out here in the real world. As the economy gets worse, gas prices get higher and people lose equity in their homes and on the stock market there will be more disillusioned republicans. So there is still a market to tap into through republicans and independents. Seems to me McCain just offers more disillusionment and Obama is green.

Now, race may not matter but it is a factor no doubt about that. Obama is only half black. He has a white mother and a black father. His family of origin has been witnessed to be dysfunctional. By his own ommission he had a cocaine problem. I don't like to see him in bars ordering beers, that is a no-no for recovering cokeheads, coconuts or cocaine addicts. Maybe he thinks it is ok to drink beer, I don't know or maybe he just tasted it, right, sure, you betcha. Some people would say he is playing with fire.

To me, drinking, would be a compromise of principles, politically motivated (an appeal to the working class) that would negate my clean and sober status.

So, look, call me a racist, so what. I am a honkey, there, I said it. I just don't like to see people taken by political machines that have no ethics or morals, just like the Republicans.

Hi honey, I miss you on mother's day.

Posted by: Hank Whatever | May 11, 2008 7:27 PM

Edwards is just wrong. First he cannot predict the future. It is very rovian of him to try to change reality, the Presidential campaign is not over. There is a chance to take more money away from the opposition with extending the race.

There are many disgruntled republicans out here in the real world. As the economy gets worse, gas prices get higher and people lose equity in their homes and on the stock market there will be more disillusioned republicans. So there is still a market to tap into through republicans and independents. Seems to me McCain just offers more disillusionment and Obama is green.

Now, race may not matter but it is a factor no doubt about that. Obama is only half black. He has a white mother and a black father. His family of origin has been witnessed to be dysfunctional. By his own ommission he had a cocaine problem. I don't like to see him in bars ordering beers, that is a no-no for recovering cokeheads, coconuts or cocaine addicts. Maybe he thinks it is ok to drink beer, I don't know or maybe he just tasted it, right, sure, you betcha. Some people would say he is playing with fire.

To me, drinking, would be a compromise of principles, politically motivated (an appeal to the working class) that would negate my clean and sober status.

So, look, call me a racist, so what. I am a honkey, there, I said it. I just don't like to see people taken by political machines that have no ethics or morals, just like the Republicans.

Posted by: Hank Whatever | May 11, 2008 7:27 PM

I've actually been somewhat torn between Obama and Clinton, and am reasonably neutral, especially considering that my vote will not count in November.

What Edwards is saying makes a lot of sense.

These 'Democrats', who say they will not vote for Oabama are either 1) Republicans in disguise, or 2) Democrats with a single digit IQ. I can't imagine how any Democrat could conclude that Bush III would be better than Obama.

dwight and unreal are blatant racists, based on their comments. When you've lived in Alabama for 30+ years, it's easy to detect racism. :-)

Posted by: MyVoteDoesNotCountInAlabama | May 11, 2008 7:28 PM

When this race started, I thought "well, Hillary will be the nominee, and I'll hold my nose and vote for her"

Why hold my nose, you may ask? Because Senator Clinton basically represents the tried, tired and true Democratic principle of nominating the candidate with basically the most name recognition, and little chance of exciting voters beyond the usual Democratic base. If Senator Clinton becomes the nominee, by some miracle, she will fight the general election across the same lines as the last 7 elections; the Republicans will get claim that they are the party of American values, and Democrats will fight to eke out enough blue states to win the electoral college.

Senator Obama, regardless of what you think of his experience, will run a different campaign. He is the first Democratic candidate in 30 years that sees clearly that Democrats need to speak with a different voice, and appeal across party lines to all Americans.

Quite honestly, I'd rather take my chances with his approach and move the country in a different direction; to get the people of "fly-over" America to think about the Democratic party differently.

This would neve happen with Hillary Clinton as the nominee, and won't happen if she were elected to the presidency. The Bush presidency would be reversed; right now 1/2 of the people in this country hate the president. If Senator Clinton were elected, the other 1/2 of the country would.

I don't think that that is a fair result to our country in this impotant election.

I understand why those of you who feel strongly about Senator Clinton do so. If you absolutely feel that you must vote against Senator Obama, so be it. But think long and hard about your choice. Senator Obama stands for the same things your candidate does. His campaign has done nothing worse than what Senator Clinton did in trying to win a close primary battle. Don't blame the media; no one was even focusing on Senator Obama prior to the Iowa caucus; by winning the caucus, he earned the attention he got.

Please think about your vote; think about what our country would look like with a second Clinton presidency. Don't be hasty.

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 11, 2008 7:28 PM

Kinda funny. Here is the guy that helped Obama start the negative campaigning against Hillary, in the MSNBC debate, chastising her.
I know, because I was a supporter of his, up to that night. No negatives up to then. Hillary is a better person than both Edwards and Obama put together, even with her faults. Doesn't speak well for either of them does it. Two low life's. And one of those low lifes has the nomination. Intelligent Dem. electorate?

Posted by: Chief | May 11, 2008 7:30 PM

To let Black America and a bunch of college kids elect the President of the United States is abolutely assinine. My God, what is happening in this country?

Posted by: Unreal | May 11, 2008 6:57 PM

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So are you saying that black 'AMERICANS' are not smart enough or informed enough to select a President? We have been doing it since we've had the right to vote? Irrespective of the hue of color of the democratic President, had it not been for the black vote, that "white" President, to include Bill Clinton would not have been the president.

Posted by: | May 11, 2008 7:31 PM

Hey, MYVOTEDOESN'TCOUNT: I live in Washington, DC - sorry you think I am a racist. I KNOW what I am talking about. I live and work on the Hill - and I hear it everyday.

Posted by: Unreal | May 11, 2008 7:34 PM

POLITICAL ETHICS OR SEXISM


Regarding ethics, both Hillary and Obama have made mis-steps, serious ones at that. I find it disgusting that it is about Hillary's that we mostly hear and I am disgusted at how she g