Kerry Accuses GOP of 'Character Assassination'

By Zachary A. Goldfarb
The 2004 Democratic presidential nominee accused the campaign of Sen. John McCain of trying to impugn the character of Sen. Barack Obama in this year's presidential race.

"They're trying to scare you," Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "They are engaged in character assassination."

"They've decided they can't win on the issues, so they've decided to try to destroy his character," Kerry said, quoting his Senate colleague Russ Feingold (D-Wis.).

Kerry's comments alluded to a McCain TV advertisement that debuted last week. The ad, which compared Obama to celebrities such as Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, raised an important point, McCain ally Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) said on NBC.

"Notwithstanding his celebrity status, is Barack Obama ready to serve?" said Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential candidate.

He said the question was particularly relevant after Obama's trip to Europe, where 200,000 people turned out in Berlin to hear him speak. "We're not deciding who's our favorite celebrity," Lieberman said. "We're doing something very serious."

Kerry countered, "It tries to insinuate that his celebrity is all [Obama] has." The Massachusetts senator added that, for McCain, who in the past has rejected negative campaigning, "This is a complete contradiction."

For his part, Lieberman focused on a statement by Obama last week that caused a stir. The Illinois senator said in Missouri that his opponents are going to try to instill worries in voters by emphasizing Obama is an unfamiliar figure who "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

The McCain campaign quickly accused Obama of playing the race card.

"You're making a personal insult to John McCain," Lieberman said. "This man does not have a bigoted bone in his body," he added, noting that the Arizona senator and his wife have adopted a child from Bangladesh.

Kerry and Lieberman were among a number of campaign surrogates who defended their candidates after an especially negative week in the campaign.

Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said Obama's comments suggest "that he's a victim of something."

He added, on "Fox News Sunday," "To say that Barack Obama did not intentionally inject the idea that he was going to be a victim of his name and his race is a lie."

But Thomas Daschle, a Democrat and former Senate majority leader, said that Obama was in no way suggesting that McCain was going to make hay of his race.

"He has never said that he believes that John McCain is a racist," Daschle said on Fox. "What he is saying is that he is a different kind of candidate, a different kind of leader."

On CBS's "Face the Nation," economic surrogates for the campaigns discussed accusations that both candidates had flip-flopped on two issues.

Former Treasury secretary Robert Rubin, an Obama supporter, was asked why Obama said he would allow for additional offshore drilling for oil if part of a comprehensive energy package that included conservation and development of alternative energy sources.

Obama previously has opposed any offshore drilling, something that McCain favors.

"I don't think he's changed his mind," Rubin said. "What he said with respect to offshore drilling is, it's going to have no effect in the short term, zero; that it's going to take years for this to come on board. ... [But] there's a lot in there that he thinks could be constructive. And if it means doing something that he has a lot of reservations about in order to accomplish something much larger that's constructive, then that's the way a legislative process should work, in a democracy."

Former Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina, a McCain adviser, tried to square his pledge not to raise any taxes with his promise to leave all possibilities - including raising taxes -- on the table in discussing Social Security reform.

"Senator McCain ... understands that you don't begin a negotiation with an ultimatum. On the other hand, his record is crystal clear," Fiorina said. "Barack Obama has proposed solving our Social Security problem with an increase in payroll taxes. John McCain has been very explicit in saying he does not support an increase in payroll taxes."

Pelosi to fight oil drilling legislation

On ABC's "This Week," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) dodged questions about whether there are any circumstances under which she would allow a vote to expand drilling for oil. Last week, she did not allow such a vote before Congress recessed for its August break.

"You never say never to anything. ... People have their parliamentary options available to them," she said. "But from my standpoint, my flagship issue as speaker of the House in this 110th Congress has been to reduce our dependence on foreign oil and to save -- reverse global warming. ... I'm not giving the gavel away to a tactic that will do neither of those things, that supports the oil, big oil at the cost and the expense of the consumer."

Pelosi urged President Bush to free oil from the nation's strategic reserve.

"We're sitting on 700 million gallons -- barrels of oil. That would have an immediate effect in 10 days. What these -- what our colleagues are talking about is something that won't have an effect for 10 years and it will be 2 cents at the time."

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I may just vote for Obama. Exspecially if the rumor is true about obama and the pickens plan, I read an article that said obama was thinking about embracing the boone pickens plan. I think it was at http://www.tboonpickens.com As far as McCain goes with all of his antics this week., I am sick. I really hope the McCain camp cleans up there act. This week has made me want to stay home in november.Has any one seen this video of McCain cussing. Wow what a potty mouth. http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: Peter | August 3, 2008 2:54 PM

Kerry countered, "It tries to insinuate that his celebrity is all [Obama] has."
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Ok, so what else does he have?

Harvard Law Review editor (nothing published himself)? Community Organizer? A whopping 1 year in the Senate? (No legislation written)...

HE DOES GIVE A MEAN SPEECH, AND HE PARROTS OTHER PEOPLE'S POLICY IDEAS WELL... WOW GREAT PRESIDENT...

Posted by: Tony V | August 3, 2008 3:02 PM

If Obama warning that the McCain campaign will point out that he "doesn't look like those people on the dollar bills" is "playing the race card," then what was McCain's ad that showed the face on a hundred dollar bill morphing into Obama? I'd call it "playing the race card." And they did it BEFORE Obama's remark that they're whining about. Scumbags!

Posted by: tom | August 3, 2008 3:02 PM

"Harvard Law Review editor (nothing published himself)? " Except a couple of best-selling books. Did you forget about that? Which he wrote HIMSELF, unlike McDoodle's ghosted job!

Guess he should have crashed a few jets to make himself "experienced?"

Posted by: tom | August 3, 2008 3:05 PM

Reagan was a global celebrity -- and from Hollywood no less!

What's McCain's beef with Reagan and U.S. leadership that inspires confidence, hope, and enthusiasm beyond our borders?

It seems McCain would rather win an election than put a positive, inspiring America back on the global map.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 3:11 PM

I'm glad the GOP finally had the courage to say it. Obama isn't fit for the presidency and he has no history of doing anything. We know he is a good student, but as a professor engaged as more of a lecturer who spoke well than a serious researcher who was qualified to be an professor. He did half the job, but not the most difficult part. His connections in Chicago are very dubious and he doesn't seem to work at anything if it involves sitting down and paying attention to something for long periods of time. He habit is more to stay up all night write a speech and deliver it the next day. Everything is about him and having people love him. It is not about doing the tough work that counts in the long run. His apartments that he used tax money to build as a state legislator and community organizer are abandoned and inhabitable in less than 10 years. Where is there any physical or tangible evidence he has been successful past giving a speech and drawing in crowds? It's not there. All we have is a voting drive to get people to vote for him.

Posted by: Lynn E | August 3, 2008 3:14 PM

McCain campaign is devoid of any real ideas, so they have to go after Obama's character. This is nothing new to slimy Republicans. This is where they're good at. Obama needs to stay above the fray, as he has, because you can't get dirty with a pig because the pig's good at it and likes it.

Posted by: David | August 3, 2008 3:16 PM

Time filler. All the people with a real connection to the Obama campaign are in Chicago.

Posted by: dnjake | August 3, 2008 3:21 PM

In a nation of 300 million people there are probably hundreds of men and women capable of being President. They have the character, experiences, and intellect to do the job. The false choice that these character assassinations accentuate are shameful. Mr. Kerry is a good example. He could have served well as President, and still could if called upon. Yet, the GOP noise machine unfairly tarnished this man's character to their shame. Vote for or against a candidate based on the positions they take on the issues you care about. Shame on the press for falling into this juvenille character assassination game.

Posted by: Edward | August 3, 2008 3:22 PM

Birds of a feather.. McCain:
He hangs with Phil Gramm or did until it caught up with him, Phil Gramm part perpetrator of our current mortgage mess. McCain has a spokeswoman who was fired from Hewlitt Packard due to a scandal. Birds of feather. Don't forget the Bush regime that has put this country in a hand basket to Hades. Birds of feather. You won't catch me voting for him or a republican for a long time.

Posted by: frye | August 3, 2008 3:23 PM

McCain's campaign "strategy" is the same old Bush-Rove tactics of lies, mis-truths along with corruptive comments intended to distract from the issues.

On offshore drilling...when Exxon drills and finds oil..its Exxon's oil..they can sell to whomever they wish including the Chinese or others...would someone please take this comment to the Obama campaign.

McCain is shameful..he is a product of politics of the negative. Rove who must be consulting with McCain..and certainly as a Fox News guest..a man who is in contempt of Congress..is the same man who is leading the idealogy of the McCain campaign.

And, if the Republicans who have control of AFN (Armed Forces Network) overseas think for a minute our soldiers are "fooled" by Fox News or comments from AFN..think again..most have done at least one other tour...They know the deal..and almost to the man in the BN, the Iraq War is not worth one American life, let along nearly 4,200 and over 30,000 WIA.

People of America..please wake up to the ¨carpet baggers¨in Washington, especially the Bush people who have done so much harm to our Republic.

Posted by: LTC US Army | August 3, 2008 3:24 PM

Same old Republican campaign buzz words which resonate with the voters; no taxes, defining the opposition in negative terms, discounting criticism, planting fears, always the opposition's fault; holier than thou on every issue. These predictable and shallow actions do convince many voters by planting seeds of doubt. The Karl Rove playbook has been adopted by the McCain campaign; no reason to even suspect McCain would be any different than George W. Bush. Wake-up voters and recognize the leadership qualities and sincerity of Barack Obama.

Posted by: Lou R | August 3, 2008 3:33 PM

If Obama's inexperience should be used against him, I think all those times McCain, appeared on SNL,Conan O'Brien plugging another book, or just because, should also be used against McCain. McCain is just as much created by the media since 1999-2000 when he ran for president, as Obama is.

Posted by: Brian | August 3, 2008 3:36 PM

I don't think that Obama has much to offer of substance. Nonetheless, I think McCain's "celebrity" ad is fatal to his purported desire to run on integrity. If your best shot is a cheap shot, how will you lead? Truly made me dislike McCain. Are you listening, Senator? You are three points behind.

Posted by: marymary | August 3, 2008 3:39 PM

If Obama is the ONE, then McCain and Bush are big fat ZEROES.

Posted by: The Messiah | August 3, 2008 3:50 PM

What have the NeoCons done for this country for the last 8 Years with all of their GLORIFIED EXPERIENCE AND CREDENTIALS.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 3:52 PM

The moment that Obama claimed that McCain was trying to "scare" voters about what Obama looks like is the moment that Obama played the race card. For once, he didn't get away with it. Cheers!

Those of us who blog and don't support Obama are already accustomed to being called racists by the BHO camp.

I guess Obama doesn't think a message to voters that says, "They are trying to scare you" is a Karl Rove-type fear-mongering tactic.

Bottom line, friends:
BHO is NOT a "new" kind of politician.

Posted by: Jan | August 3, 2008 3:55 PM

Bottom line, friends:
BHO is NOT a "new" kind of politician.
Posted by: Jan | August 3, 2008 3:55 PM
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But he is DIFFERENT than what wE CURRENTLY have!

GO OBAMA '08

Posted by: GOOBAMA! | August 3, 2008 3:58 PM

Will one of the bloggers on here who insists that McCain's ads are within bounds and fair-minded, would one of you, just one of you, please tell me something that McCain is FOR (other than pandering to the oil companies with his flip-flop on offshore drilling)? How specifically is he going to help turn this country around and start to correct the mess that the US is in now (on the economy, foreign policy, health care, the environment, the ability to respond to emergencies like Katrina, you name it), because of 8 years of W and his policy of fake and dihonest governance? Because all I see right now from McCain is the lowest of the low, snatching a page straight from W and Karl's playbook, and, after all his high talk about conducting a respectful campaign, it makes me think he shares one of W's worst characteristics, which is that he is a liar. And as for issues, if he does not represent four more years of Bush's failed policies, then he is doing a damn poor job of explaining that. Sorry, but I think he is going to have to do better with the 70% of the electorate that happens to think W is a fool and the country is on the wrong track.....

Posted by: timwayne | August 3, 2008 3:59 PM

Hey, John, what a brilliant strategy! Connect up Obama in the redneck mind with two well-known promiscuous blonde bimbos (thereby dragging in the notion of miscegenation), and then deny any racist intent and accuse Obama of "playing the race card!" How to throw dreck at your opponent while seeming to keep your own hands clean.

Posted by: oldhonky | August 3, 2008 4:04 PM

McCain has sold his soul to the devil.

Posted by: ericmiami | August 3, 2008 4:06 PM

McCain with all his whining lately is starting to sound like a pathetic old man. Picking on young women (even if they are celebrities) to make 'a joke' at their expense is pretty sad. This is Bush tactics and unbecoming for a major party in the USA. How many other people not in politics is going to get their name dragged in to make a point. Sorry, John - your whining and game playing at other's expense has lost my vote. Grow up.

Posted by: Marc from San Diego | August 3, 2008 4:07 PM

To those who believe the spin that Sen. Obama supposedly 'hasn't done anything', or 'isn't ready'...was Abraham Lincoln ready, had he 'done anything' when he only had served 2 years in the House of Representatives and never held an executive position? And yet Lincoln arguably became our best president, and is still admired around the world as a model of strategic & visionary leadership. Perhaps the doubters haven't taken the time, or don't have the interest, to do some research. Just focusing below on some of Sen. Obama's legislative record, with a web site one can use to do more research:

Entering the Illinois Senate in 1996, he persuaded Republicans & the police to compromise though initially they opposed his anti-profiling law. He modified death penalty laws to protect the innocent, passed expanded childcare coverage, tax relief for the working poor, and the first significant IL campaign and ethics reform in 25 years. He passed the first law in the nation requiring police to videotape interviews & confessions of murder suspects. In the US Senate, his notable accomplishments include Lugar-Obama which expands cooperative threat reduction to include conventional weapons, mines & shoulder-fired missiles. The Coburn-Obama Transparency Act creates a website detailing all organizations' Federal funds and their use.

He has sponsored 129 bills & co-sponsored 545 bills.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama shows all his experience in the Illinois Senate & the US Senate.

Posted by: Richard Margolies | August 3, 2008 4:13 PM

Why does John McCain despise Jesus so much? I have seen the latest McCain ad and as a Christian I find it offensive.

Posted by: Roy, Charlotte, NC | August 3, 2008 4:14 PM

I think John McCain will benefit from Michelle Shaniqua Obama's "whitey" tape due for release in October. Undoubtedly is will show her ranting from the pulpit of Trinity Church punctuating each rant with a fist bump.

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 3, 2008 4:14 PM

I think John McCain will benefit from Michelle Shaniqua Obama's "whitey" tape due for release in October. Undoubtedly is will show her ranting from the pulpit of Trinity Church punctuating each rant with a fist bump.

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 3, 2008 4:15 PM

I think John McCain will benefit from Michelle Shaniqua Obama's "whitey" tape due for release in October. Undoubtedly is will show her ranting from the pulpit of Trinity Church punctuating each rant with a fist bump.

Posted by: 72Dianne | August 3, 2008 4:16 PM

"The moment that Obama claimed that McCain was trying to "scare" voters about what Obama looks like is the moment that Obama played the race card. For once, he didn't get away with it. Cheers!"
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I guess you missed the McCain ad showing Obama face morphing onto US Curreny, This is exactly what he is talking about. Obama should make an ad showing all the slip up's where McCain forgets simple things " Do we realy want a president who forgets what year it is?"

Posted by: Hmm... | August 3, 2008 4:18 PM

Eight years in a state legislature, an incompleted term in Congress and a "cram" course in a war zone does not qualify anyone to be my Commander in Chief.

Posted by: wingman | August 3, 2008 4:19 PM

Where exactly does Obama stand on any issues? No one knows becasue he's flip-flopped on just about evey single important issue he's run on thus far. The man is an empty suit, power hungy, puppet politician pulled from the heart of sleezy Chicago politics by people with an agenda,a borderline if not true socialist agenda. Good god people, wake up! We need a leader in this country, not an affirmative action symbolic president. Geesh. Get real you Obama followers. He's a hand-picked practiced and polished politician, and a puppet for the behind the scenes masters in the Dem Party. He'll do and say anything to get elected and then he'll do and say anything to keep his handlers happy. He's a poseur and a pleaser. The man is purely dangerous, and if we allow this farce of an election to happen our democracy based upon we the people picking our presidential candidates will be forever broken. No reason to vote any more because your votes won't count.

Posted by: NObamaDem | August 3, 2008 4:21 PM

Does McCain have anything besides whining, lies and character slurs?

Posted by: Greg in LA | August 3, 2008 4:22 PM

I dont hear McCain playing the fear card ! But i do hear obama trying to have it both ways almost daily .There are no simple answers to a ? possed to Obama . Why would anyone even want a job if they had little to no experience . Its insane for the people to even have him as an option . It is terrible obama has a void resume

Posted by: jack A | August 3, 2008 4:23 PM

McCain is too for the job. He should just go and retire and go fishing

Posted by: Don | August 3, 2008 4:27 PM

Lynn E writes: I'm glad the GOP finally had the courage to say it. Obama isn't fit for the presidency and he has no history of doing anything. We know he is a good student, but as a professor engaged as more of a lecturer who spoke well than a serious researcher who was qualified to be an professor.

The Spanish painter Goya entitled one of his paintings "The Sleep of Reason Produces monsters". He was a genius. Critical self-examination does not seem to feature prominently on the political menu of many Americans. My question is, what have you published? Which university have you lectured? Have you read Nietzsche's article on "resentiment"? Does it not astonish you that a man who "has no history of doing anything" could inspire millions of his fellow citizens and billions of peoples across the world with his vision? I find it amazing that a man who is barely 46 has already become the presumptive nominee of a major party in the most powerful nation on earth. It is sad. Americans must remove the ideological veins to vote for political leaders whose intellects reflect the great scientific achievements of their country. Ideological veils have for far too long dragged the politics of the most powerful nation on earth lower, lower and lower. Without ideological veils, Americans will begin to ask, "Why is McCain confusing basic socio-economic, political and geographical data?" According to McCain, „Iraq was "the first major conflict after 9/11". McCain in a week has more than three times spoken of "Czechoslovakia" - a country that no longer exists for more than a decade now. McCain does not know the difference between Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda in Iraq, Sunni insurgents, and borders of Iran, Syria and Afghanistan. He openly insists that "Iraq is the central front of the war on terror"; "Iraq is the central battleground" in the war on terror". The brutal terrorists who attacked planned their sinister plot in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Kally-Williams | August 3, 2008 4:28 PM

Joe Lieberman will be gone into oblivion and perhaps end up on the farming committee when Democrats control the Senate by more than 55 members. What a piece of rag. Recall anyone?

Posted by: truth1 | August 3, 2008 4:42 PM

All McCain's high-minded talk last Spring about running a campaign of "ideas" and giving the American people the campaign they "deserve" was complete bunk. I guess McCain would rather lose his honor than lose a political campaign.

He fires his team, hires Rove's team, and it's 2004 all over again.

Is the nation stupid enough to fall for it again? Do we want another 4 years of slash and burn partisanship?

I fear for our nation if McCain wins...

Posted by: crossdotcurve | August 3, 2008 4:42 PM

i watched kerry and lieberman on meet the press this morning and just had to laugh while physically writhing in painful disgust. why? because joe lieberman has morphed into a bottom-feeding worm. not only has he turned against his own party, but he has also sold out his constituents in his home state. lieberman is a dirt-bag. he is the only reason i refused to vote for gore. all lieberman really cares about is ingratiating himself and mcbush with the jewish lobby in america. lieberman should have a flagpole implanted in his front yard flying the "star of david" above the american flag because his primary concern is the gain of personal wealth on all things jewish. he and his zionist pals at AIPAC spend the majority of their time plotting the final demise of the palestinian people at the expense of the american taxpayer. this is why we can all see the true colors of john mcbush. transparency provided from little joe lieberman at no cost!!!! SHALOM!!

Posted by: lonewolf | August 3, 2008 4:45 PM

This election is over and Obama is going to win once the secret tape of John McCain and Karl Rove having sex in a men's airport bathroom is released right before the election!!

www.hotkarl.com

Posted by: John McCain's Tape | August 3, 2008 4:50 PM

Tony V wrote: "Ok, so what else does he have? Harvard Law Review editor (nothing published himself)? Community Organizer? A whopping 1 year in the Senate? (No legislation written)..."

I am happy to answer. Becoming the editor of the Harvard Law Review is like winning an Olympic Gold Medal or an Oscar. It's a big deal that means you're Supreme Court or top Wall Street firm material. You run the entire journal and edit the contributions of judges and lawyers from around the country as well from academics and students. You write occasional editorial notes, but your main role is higher level as an editor and manager. He has been widely praised in this role by conservative and liberal figures he worked with and edited at that time.

As you note, Obama also worked for years (even after law school) as a community organizer, during which time, by the way, he registered over 150,000 new voters and helped get Bill Clinton over the top in Illinois. And he worked as a civil rights lawyer and taught at the University of Chicago Law School.

Later, building on that experience, he served in the Illinois state legislature for four terms. Once the Democrats gained the majority he co-authored several major pieces of legislation in Illinois that have changed people's lives, including an extension of children's heath insurance and a reform of the state's death penalty laws. He is in his fourth year as a US Senator, not his first year. As Senator he co-sponsored a major law with Republican Senator Dick Lugar to contain the truly dangerous national security problem of poorly controlled nuclear weapons arsenals in the former Soviet Union. Most observers consider these "loose nukes" the gravest national security threat of our time. He also co-sponsored a major ethics law with Republican Senator Tom Coburn to report government spending and the names of legistors supporting the spending, bill by bill, on the Internet, in the belief that greater transparency and sunlight is the greatest disinfectant for government corruption and undue influence. He has worked on many other bills as well, but those are two of his signature achievements.

Along the way Obama has also written two books that have been very highly praised by both critics and political observers, as well as becoming mega-bestsellers. He has assembled a superb national political staff and run one of the best campaigns in recent political history, defeating the biggest machine in the Democratic Party. He is well-regarded by foreign leaders and American troops abroad and by voters of all races here at home, including those in many traditionally Republican strongholds. He has inspired many of us to give up summer weekends and a bit of our household savings to work hard to get him elected.

All of this information is readily available in the media. I sure wish you would take even a moment to review information about Obama and McCain in major newspapers, on TV, on their websites, or in their books, before you announce that you don't know anything about Obama's accomplishments or policies (or McCain's, for that matter) and therefore there must be nothing to know. In fact, there's much to know about Obama's achievements, and you just might like what you see if you approach the subject with an open mind.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 3, 2008 4:57 PM

Reagan was a global celebrity -- and from Hollywood no less!

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I am no fan of Reagan but even he had more than Obama going in. You do remember that he was a two term governor of California.

This is a favorite ploy of Obama apologizers.

They try to compare Obama's appalling lack of qualifications with other Presidents. You know like FDR. I read a column about how he was equally lightweight. But that columnist failed to mention FDR's terms as Assistant Secretary of the Navy AND Governor of New York!

Posted by: Truth Seeker | August 3, 2008 4:59 PM

He (Graham) added, on "Fox News Sunday," "To say that Barack Obama did not intentionally inject the idea that he was going to be a victim of his name and his race is a lie."

It is great how these stooges can lie through their teeth. McSame started this with O's picture of a one dollar bill in his ad campaign, before he went after Obama for saying what he did. Why is the MSM not even calling him on it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 5:01 PM

Just a quick reminder from those of us who live outside the United States.
You are electing a leader.
Someone who doesn't casually mention bombing Iran, kicking Russia out of the G8, or appointing Phil Gramm to be the ambassador of Belarus.

Posted by: Doug from BC | August 3, 2008 5:04 PM

Americans must remove the ideological veins to vote for political leaders whose intellects reflect the great scientific achievements of their country.
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Art is science, and science is art, how do they connect, why?

I see your words, and I am immediately suspect, those who cannot understand "art", (or the thought process that produces art), is also indicative of higher abstract reasoning, (perhaps even higher than that which produces a fundamental understanding of basic physics) are perhaps ignorant.

Not to imply this is you, in any way, but the businessman, or the "leader" who dismisses the artist may as well have a neon sign on his forehead blinking "moron, moron, moron."

I would say so much of what has failed in this country is due to those who thought a simple math computer program was somehow superior to a Jackson Pollack painting, both convey abstracts, but in a different manner, a simple arrangement of atoms. Can I eventually break down the Pollack painting to a psychics equation?

Maybe.

And Pollack knew, in his mind, to process this information (inspiration? a processing of the sub atomic sensory "information" that surronds us all, into the mind's eye, resulting in a picture, the artist able to convey this information in a manner the computer programmer cannot comprehend despite his primitive math, math only one language among many trying to capture and define the abstract? Who knows? ).

It's simply a matter of reading the picture, the way art acts as a mirror, informing us of the culture around us,the culture we are making, really.

What is reasoning, what is the mind? Certainly we can't begin to know, and so many thought we had it all figured it out.

We're not even close.

How DOES our world function on a sub atomic level?

For men whose abstract reasoning was supposed to be superior, what happened, and why?

And really, the greatest thinkers, (and I go to the writers, here) knew the function of both art and science, knew the function of intellect that produces both must continually be nurtured, must stay great.

Sad was the day our military, our culture, forsook, like some short sighted poor businessman, literature for simple math, the complex language for the simple, in the name of money, and logic, itself a highly illogical decision.

Imagine such poor thinking coming from America.

Some cannot understand the construct, the abstract, the human mind, really.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 5:05 PM

"They've decided they can't win on the issues, so they've decided to try to destroy his character," Kerry said, quoting his Senate colleague Russ Feingold (D-Wis.).
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Since day one, Obama's campaign strategy has been to focus on his background, his personality, his character, and less on issues. His campaign people are just ACTING as though they aren't happy about McCain's campaign ads that focus on how Obama acts and what he does. Obama's people are grateful for the diversions and grateful that his supporters are defending him. The end result is that it buys him more time to not talk about issues.

Posted by: Michael | August 3, 2008 5:13 PM

McCain spoke up forcefully for Kerry in '04 when he was attacked. Looks like no good deed goes unpunished. How's Theresa doing?

Posted by: Pickleface | August 3, 2008 5:35 PM

Have we, the body politic, not had to put up with all these non-issues for almost 20 yrs. since the first Clinton campaign.What will Obama do to fix social security & medicare; the rising cost of energy; health care & the strain being placed on our health care system; the $9.5 trillon dollar debt bush & the republican controled congress(from 1994 to 2006) has saddled us & our grandchildren with. What about John's answers to these questions?He,McCain says " no tax increases or new taxes".Just how does he think we get out of debt to the Chinese; or fight a $9 billion dollar a month war that he likes;or fix social security that we old folk have paid into for 50+ yrs. How about it you brillant newsies;leave off the rovies misdirection stuff & start asking these HARD questions. Of course race is an issue for some;so is old crudmudgentry. But, it ain't what's important. What is important is: do we allow the republican machine to stay in control 4 or 8 more years. Better think on it America.

Posted by: tlrasnic,virginia | August 3, 2008 5:37 PM

So the Hiltons give McCain a max contribution, and then McCain turns around and trashes their daughter in a political attack ad?

Classy.

Posted by: JP2 | August 3, 2008 5:38 PM

Lynn E

Everyone in Chicago politics and the media, by the way, know all the same dubious people. So,were you a student of his? If not, how do you know what he was like as a Professor or Lecturer? How do you know that "he doesn't seem to work at anything if it involves sitting down and paying attention to something for long periods of time"? Have you sat with him? How do you know "He habit is more to stay up all night write a speech and deliver it the next day"? Have you stayed up all night with him while he wrote a speech? At least he can write a speech and knows what's in it BEFORE he reads it. McCain doesn't know what he's going to say until he reads the speech someone else wrote for him just like his books. All "made up" stories by someone else who used their own "perception" of him that he agreed to because they sounded so much better than his true self. This man is angry, crude even to his own wife in public, thinks women don't deserve any rights and is making Iraq his own Vietnam. The only "experience" he has over Obama is that he's been in the Senate a LONG time. Not worthy to be President of a company let alone a country.

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 5:43 PM

Oh and, Lynn E, why don't you go on the government's website to see what Obama has done in the Senate before you start spewing your nonsense. Stop making things up and contributing to the GOP lies. Be a knowledgeable voter.

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 5:46 PM

the fact that obama is of a different race and is leading the whinners just has scared the hell out of the greety old party [gop] old maccain. so they have to choice but try to distract voter. what a scumbag..

Posted by: jae | August 3, 2008 5:47 PM

Harvard Law Review editor (nothing published himself)? Community Organizer? A whopping 1 year in the Senate? (No legislation written)...

HE DOES GIVE A MEAN SPEECH, AND HE PARROTS OTHER PEOPLE'S POLICY IDEAS WELL... WOW GREAT PRESIDENT...

Posted by: Tony V | August 3, 2008 3:02 PM
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Weak, Dude.

Obama did publish as Editor of the Law Review.

Giving a mean speech is important. Ask Lincoln, FDR, Churchill.

Obama has been in the Senate for 4 years.

In 4 years, he has been responsible for MORE legislation than McCain has been in 22 years.

-During the Republican controlled 109th Congress, Obama was asked to partner with Lugar on Lugar-Obama (anti-proliferation) and Coburn-Obama (creating a searchable on line data base of federal expenditures). McCain, though a member of the majority, passed nothing of consequence.

-During the Democratic controlled 110th Congress, Obama was responsible for writing and securing passage of major ethics legislation.

And McCain?

In 22 years, he managed to secure passage of one major statute, McCain-Feingold, which he now opposes, promising to appoint Justices like Roberts and Alito, both of whom view McCain-Feingold as unconstitutional and who will overrule it if McCain appoints another Justice like either of them.

He has made headlines by working with Democrats on global warming (McCain-Lieberman) and immigration(McCain-Kennedy). BUT, he was unable to secure support from HIS OWN PARTY, thus these bills went nowhere.

That's a preview of McCain as President. All grandstanding, all the time, accomplishing nothing ever.

Posted by: mnjam | August 3, 2008 5:48 PM

Fellow Americans please join me in supporting Barack Obama for President you can donate at this link https://donate.barack.obama.com/page/contribute/OVFOHLC feel free to use my name Raul Pedraza as the person who encouraged you.

Now please allow me share my personal reasons why I proudly support Senator Obama and am certain he is the correct choice for our great country.

Senator Obama supported our countries troops by authoring and passing passing vital legislation to make conditions for our injured better at Walter Reed and other Veterans hospitals.

Senator Obama was a strong supporter of Jim Webbs' improved GI Bill. George W. Bush and his cohort in crime John Mc Cain both came out against the GI Bill which would give the troops a college education until the bill had overwhelming support and the threatened veto had no chance. I am a veteran and my son fought in Iraq and we are both proud to be part of the thousands of veterans for Barack Obama.

Senator Obama is an embodiment of the American dream and a uniter not a divider. He picked himself up from meager means to a Harvard Law degree and became editor of the Harvard Law Review the first black person to ever achieve the honor. He chose to serve as a community organizer rather than as a highly compensated corporate attorney. He served as an Illinois state legislator and then became a Senator from Illinois. He is today the Democratic party's nominee for President. To come so far is an incredible story and one that proves again the value of hard work and tenacity in the land of opportunity. Add in the fact that he is black and it is incredible how far we have all come and also how far we have to go.

His judgment on foreign affairs continues to shine through. He was right that we did not belong in Iraq and that our treasure and the lives of our troops are getting plundered for no good reason. He was right that Afghanistan was where our enemies should be battled. He was right that diplomacy needed to be a bigger part of our arsenal and has stated he would negotiate with our enemies but not bow to them. Today you can see the Republican Bush administration making exactly the moves Senator Obama has called for and then of course taking credit for the correct actions.

As a Cuban American I am happy to see Senator Obama willing to try a new strategy for relations to Cuba besides the failed embargo we have tried for fifty(50) years with no results. Why should we keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome?

Our nation needs allies to confront the big issues that face our country we cannot go it alone and can no longer act as if we own the planet. Our allies all support OBAMA.

Please don't let John Mc Cains' campaign and its lies and negative propaganda cause you concern or make you believe it is too great a risk to back the candidate with the better intellect and integrity. Shout out YES WE CAN! PROUDLY and vote for Barack Obama. You wont regret putting our country on the right path.

Posted by: RAUL PEDRAZA | August 3, 2008 5:54 PM

I am no fan of Reagan but even he had more than Obama going in. You do remember that he was a two term governor of California.

This is a favorite ploy of Obama apologizers.

They try to compare Obama's appalling lack of qualifications with other Presidents. You know like FDR. I read a column about how he was equally lightweight. But that columnist failed to mention FDR's terms as Assistant Secretary of the Navy AND Governor of New York!

Posted by: Truth Seeker | August 3, 2008 4:59 PM
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The experience argument is vacuous.

Obama's "appalling" lack of qualifications. Nonsense. He graduated Columbia with a degree in foreign relations. He graduated Harvard Law, where he was elected Editor of the Law Review by fellow students. He was a practicing attorney. He taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago. He was a State Senator for 8 years. He has been a US Senator for 4 years. He has published two books which he wrote all by himself.

The fact is that Obama has a thicker resume in 2008 than FDR did in 1932.

He certainly has a thicker resume than Reagan did in 1968, when he first ran for President. No one said Reagan lacked experienced at the time.

Similarly, why is 4 years as Governor of Massachusetts sufficient experience for Romney to be a plausible candidate?

Why did a grand total of 6 years in a largely ceremonial position, Texas Governor, qualify G. W. BUsh?

Obama has more relevant experience, by any measure, than Reagan did 1968, than Bush did in 2000 and than Romney did this year. Or than Edwards did in 2004.

The "experience" argument really is racist. Sorry, but it's true.

Posted by: mnjam | August 3, 2008 5:55 PM

Edward,

I agree with you. If Kerry had won, we would not be in this mess now. What I don't understand is WHY the American people just believe these negative ads without looking for the truth. Are people that lazy? Do they honestly believe that if it's on YouTube, it's true? How can people be that naive? Maybe they just don't care about anyone other than themselves. How will we ever have an honest election without the truth being told? At one time, we could trust the media to do that but now they just report the nonsense or talk about who they want to be elected personally. What a sad set of circumstances.

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 5:56 PM

Funny. It is the liberals who give the other side the ammunition with their flawed characters. Nice try though.

Posted by: Fightertom34 | August 3, 2008 5:59 PM

Also, what have the liberals done over the last 4 years? What was it that Nancy Pelosi was referring to when she said "Its working." Thaaaaaat's right. Character assassination. So given they know what the word means I would think they would able to apply it correctly.

Posted by: Fightertom34 | August 3, 2008 6:02 PM

Jan - I see you like to use the word "friends" just like McCain. How sweet! However, anyone who says to me "believe me, my friend" is not going to be any friend of mine. It's a sure way to send up my "suspicious" antenna.

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 6:03 PM

Jan - I see you like to use the word "friends" just like McCain. How sweet! However, anyone who says to me "believe me, my friend" is not going to be any friend of mine. It's a sure way to send up my "suspicious" antenna. To me it's like a predator asking a little girl if she'd like "a piece of candy".

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 6:04 PM

Hmm..experience...finish almost dead last in school..drive your red corvette like an idiot and cruise with strippers. have your flight instructor say you were unfit to fly, but your daddy and his daddy are admirals..so you stay...then get shot down (5th jet lost) by second rate soviet anti-aircraft missles because the proper evasive techniques were ignored....then dump your 1st wife when you return after her debilitating car accident to hook up with younger trophy wife who's family and $$ start you in poitics then sit in senate and vote against every progressive bill ever introduced....call yourself a maverick yet vote in lockstep with Bush.....yea...McCain sure has the experience...oh, I forgot the Keating 5 scandal that he sucked his way out of. Man...you GOPers are sure right...that's a lot of experience...just like GWB's vices..good training for being a partisan hack and punk for big business.
Lieberman...you are gutless and spineless.

Posted by: Doc | August 3, 2008 6:04 PM

Posted by: Why one Southerner is voting for McCain | August 3, 2008 6:05 PM

john mccain against the ropes both eyes swollen shut, he has no choice but to come out swinging aimlessly. when u can't see u have only one other choice, that is throw in the towel which we know is not gonna happen.

Posted by: jae | August 3, 2008 6:06 PM

When the liberals tried to make a case for McCain having an extra-maritial affaire back in December and their liberal buddies plastered it all over the front page of their rags what was that?

And when the liberals very own John Edwards (remember all those helicopters flying over watching his meeting with BO? to give him his blessing???) is now embroiled in a similar situation, only one that involves an illegitimate child, legalities, etc, where are the liberals? Ooooooohhhhh. Thaaaaats right. That would be "character assassination."

Posted by: Fightertom34 | August 3, 2008 6:06 PM

Since day one, Obama's campaign strategy has been to focus on his background, his personality, his character, and less on issues. His campaign people are just ACTING as though they aren't happy about McCain's campaign ads that focus on how Obama acts and what he does. Obama's people are grateful for the diversions and grateful that his supporters are defending him. The end result is that it buys him more time to not talk about issues.

Posted by: Michael | August 3, 2008 5:13 PM
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Baloney.

Obama wrote and published a book ON THE ISSUES. Unlike John McCain.

Every week or so, Obama's gives major addresses on the issues. UNLIKE John McCain.

These speeches are all available on line. E.g.
www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/renewing_american_competitiven.html
www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/obamas_remarks_on_college_affo.html
www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/the_america_we_love.html
www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/a_secure_energy_future.html
www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/obamas_remarks_to_the_american.html
(education)
http://thepage.time.com/full-text-of-obamas-iraq-speech/

Posted by: mnjam | August 3, 2008 6:11 PM

I think John McCain will benefit from Michelle Shaniqua Obama's "whitey" tape due for release in October. Undoubtedly is will show her ranting from the pulpit of Trinity Church punctuating each rant with a fist bump.

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 3, 2008 4:14 PM
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You put this on every blog I read. Her husband's family is WHITE. Her childrens' grandparents are WHITE. And you are a total crackpot.

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 6:12 PM

When the liberals tried to make a case for McCain having an extra-maritial affaire back in December and their liberal buddies plastered it all over the front page of their rags what was that?

And when the liberals very own John Edwards (remember all those helicopters flying over watching his meeting with BO? to give him his blessing???) is now embroiled in a similar situation, only one that involves an illegitimate child, legalities, etc, where are the liberals? Ooooooohhhhh. Thaaaaats right. That would be "character assassination."

Posted by: Fightertom34 | August 3, 2008 6:06 PM
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John McCain, SERIAL ADULTERER, is a nominee for President.

So is Barack Obama, FAITHFUL HUSBAND.

Edwards is not a nominee.

Posted by: mnjam | August 3, 2008 6:13 PM

I'll take Obama's experience over McCain's 30 years any day. He had 30 years to change our country and what did he do? Get involved in the Keating 5 scandal? Give big oil more tax brakes while offering taxoayers that tired crap about how we need to give big oil more leases so they can not drill for more oil? I want someone who can think differently and who can pivot when necessary to get things done. To me the kind of experience McCain has is the WRONG kind. It's the SAME OL'STUFF, that didn't work the last eight years.

Posted by: Jacquie1 | August 3, 2008 6:14 PM

the fact that obama is of a different race and is leading the whinners just has scared the hell out of the greety old party [gop] old maccain. so they have to choice but try to distract voter. what a scumbag..when you are against the ropes with both eyes swollen shut u have no choice but to come out swinging aimlessly hoping to hit your opponent, that's where u get knocked out. don't throw in the towel yet..let me see ya swirm.....

Posted by: jae | August 3, 2008 6:16 PM

He (Graham) added, on "Fox News Sunday," "To say that Barack Obama did not intentionally inject the idea that he was going to be a victim of his name and his race is a lie."

That's great coming from Lindsey Graham, a gay-bashing, gay Republican and living, breathing, walking LIE.

Posted by: mnjam | August 3, 2008 6:17 PM

I watched Meet the Press this a.m. and Tom Brokaw just let Lieberman take over. He kept interrupting John Kerry and Brokaw just let him go on and on. He never even went back to Kerry so he could finish his thoughts. That never would have happened with Tim Russert. I guess Brokaw is just another media person for McCain ((like most of NBC and MSNBC). I've noticed other weeks that his questions are always harsher when it comes to Obama. He should not be hosting that program if he can't get beyond his own bias. What a waste of my time.

Posted by: ossilot | August 3, 2008 6:24 PM

CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that delegates from Florida and Michigan should get a "full vote" at the Democratic convention this month.

Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that Michigan and Florida delegates should get a full vote.

"I believe party unity calls for the delegates from Florida and Michigan to be able to participate fully alongside the delegates from the other states and territories," he said in a letter to the co-chairs of the Democratic National Convention's Credentials Committee.
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This is one flip-flop too many for Obama. What a jerk he is.

Posted by: Obama wants FL and MI to get full vote | August 3, 2008 6:25 PM

One of the biggest raps against Obama is that he doesn't have any experience running anything as an executive. This seems really curious to me.

I think the job of the president is to be a politician first, and to direct the working of his executives (the cabinet), whose job it is to actually get things done.
Well, by this standard, let's compare the campaigns. Modern general election presidential campaigns are big, sprawling organizations that involve shaping a message, setting policies, mounting complex logistics, and managing thousands of people and hundreds of millions of dollars. Obama's, as the Post so vividly described in todays' paper, runs like an idling Rolls Royce - smooth, quiet, efficient, little turnover, very few problems. McCain's has been a very uneven affair, people fighting with each other, top people fired, money running out, a muddled message, and technical ineptitude (think McCain in the golf cart).

So if we look at the campaigns side by side and vote on who'd be the better manager/president, isn't it obvious? Obama's experience may not be deep, but, judging by his campaign, it's impressive, and he's passing the audition in real time, with the whole world watching.

Posted by: John Abdenour | August 3, 2008 6:27 PM

Could Lieberman and McCain get a room already? Thanks for nothing Connecticut.

Posted by: Sara B. | August 3, 2008 6:38 PM

If Obama warning that the McCain campaign will point out that he "doesn't look like those people on the dollar bills" is "playing the race card," then what was McCain's ad that showed the face on a hundred dollar bill morphing into Obama? I'd call it "playing the race card." And they did it BEFORE Obama's remark that they're whining about. Scumbags!


Thank you for pointing this out. I think the media watchdog does not have any teeth, otherwise they would have seen that McCain actually started this race baiting antics.

Posted by: Rose | August 3, 2008 6:39 PM

Kerry is a loser, Pelosi is a loser and Obama is a loser. All make for good stories, but little else.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 6:48 PM

The Swiftboats are a-coming

Their sails are in sight...

Posted by: an atheist | August 3, 2008 6:53 PM

The "experience" rap really makes me laugh.

Republicans worship at the Alter of Reagan, who had no experience at anything but making bad movies.

What a joke those slimeballs are...

Posted by: an atheist | August 3, 2008 6:57 PM

That would be the "Altar of Reagan"...

Posted by: an atheist | August 3, 2008 6:58 PM

I think I'm gonna vomit.

Posted by: tomhere | August 3, 2008 7:05 PM

Americans are scared to death of Obama. I talked to about 3000 registered voters to encourage them to vote. They repeatedly said the same thing. "Obama scares the heck out of me!" or "If Obama is elected I am moving abroad!" Many are praying for Obama not to be elected president.

Long before McCain was the nominee voters from both parties were afraid that Obama would get elected. Now it doesn't look like Obama will be president. The Obama fever is gone. The voters are tired of him. And McCain does not look like Bush anymore than Obama does.

That Britney Paris Obama ad was great. It struck a nerve and pierced Obama's Achilles heal-pride. It is the turning point of the campiagn.

Obama wanted the election to be about "Obama the first African American president." Now Obama doesn't want to talk about race since Americans could care less about being the first. We just want OIL. Now Obama is for drilling too.

Posted by: Grace | August 3, 2008 7:16 PM

The Republicans have nearly destroyed out country. We need Change. No McCain please; no Bush third term. .

Posted by: lori | August 3, 2008 7:21 PM

Obama and his campaign is on the skids. They made too many grave errors even for the Main Stream Media to cover up now. It is only going to get worse.

Obama is off message.

Obama was against drilling now he is for drilling.
Obama was against public finance now he is for it.
Obama was against counting the delegates from Michigan and Florida now he is for it.
Obama was for Rev. Wright then he was against him.
Obama was for Affirmative action now he opposes it or he is not sure.
Obama was proud to be the first black presidential candiate. Now the election has nothing to do with race.
Obama didn't want to wear the flag pin now he does.
Obama wanted to get out of Iraq now he is saying "not so fast".

Memorial Day is coming soon and so is the Democratic convention in Denver. It marks the end of summer and after all this time Americans are still asking ourselves.
WHO IS THIS GUY?
WHY DID WE NOMINATE HIM?
WHAT KIND OF CHANGE DID OBAMA STAND FOR AGAIN?

CHANGE WE CAN COUNT ON.

Posted by: Grace | August 3, 2008 7:21 PM

If you did not like Obama political opinion just wait a little while and it will change.

A joke. Oh yeah, I forgot Obama has no sense of humor.

I saw Kerry on Meet the Press. It reminded me of why he lost in 2004. I voted for Kerry, Gore and every other Dem since Jimmy Carter. This time I will vote for McCain just because I am sick of Dems nominating the wrong candidate.

Posted by: Grace | August 3, 2008 7:26 PM

"They've decided they can't win on the issues, so they've decided to try to destroy his character"

No, the Republicans learned 8 years ago that the average American has fairly limited analytical and problem-solving skills, and is much more likely to grasp a 15-sec soundbite on TV, rather than actually understand the scope and depth of issues. The Republicans have learned to take advantage of the average American's ignorance. For example - allowing drilling off the coast today will NOT result in an additional drop of oil for at least another 10 years, and will therefore have no impact on oil or gas prices today. Do you think the guy who cuts your lawn really understands this nuance, or is more likely to understand McCain's stance that gas is $4 a gallon and Obama does not want to drill offshore?????? This ignorance is also the reason why as late as Sept 2007, one in three Americans believed that Iraq was connected to 9/11.

This is an election - it has nothing to do with character assassination, or truth, or issues. You win if you are able to dumb-down what you think is a winning issue to a 15-second soundbite that your auto mechanic can understand. The Republicans have gotten this down to an art-form. Unless the Democrats come to the same realization, they will never make it back into the White House.

Posted by: Geonerd | August 3, 2008 7:26 PM

Grace, in reference to the 3,000 phone calls -- I'm guessing you got the RNC sugar-daddies calling list?

I'd agree that the Britney-Paris ad is great . . . if a person gets their kicks out non-sequitors and dirty old man fantasies.

Personally, I thought it was kind of stupid and a tawdry use of a campaign contributor;s daughter.

Call me old fashioned.

Posted by: JP2 | August 3, 2008 7:27 PM

The most important venue for us voters are the structured televised debates. At this time there are a mere three debates.

In Virginia, candidates on the State level and local levels often debate up to 20 times from September until election day.

Obama has refused the townhall appearances and now refuses to debate more than the 3 times.

What is Obama afraid of-----why is he such a coward in regard to debating.

Is it because a formal debate allows no teleprompters and no being wired to hear coaching comments by advisors.

This is the kind of debate we want---no teleprompters----a note pad and pen or pencil for making notes.

Posted by: Roxieanne | August 3, 2008 7:29 PM

Neocon McCain. Kinda has a ring to it, eh?

Posted by: michael4 | August 3, 2008 7:35 PM

Roxieanne, if Obama is a coward, then what does that make Reagan who only did TWO general election debates in 1980 and 1984?

What does that make George H.W. Bush who only did TWO general election debates in 1988?

How about George W. Bush who never did more than three presidential debates in 2000 and 2004?

Three debates is pretty much standard.

As far as Virginia politics go -- since when has the general election phase of campaigns for statewide office consisted of TWENTY debates? Maybe in the 1700s!

Why does lying come so naturally to Bush Republicans? It's almost like an instinct.

Posted by: JP2 | August 3, 2008 7:38 PM

Obama will make mincemeat out of McSame in all the debates.

Not that it will matter. Bush revealed what a complete idiot he is in all his debates, and we still elected the moron.

Like Mencken said - "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public."

Posted by: an atheist | August 3, 2008 7:44 PM

Experience doesn't matter if you're WRONG!

McCain:

Wrong on tax breaks for the rich and corporations!

Wrong on the efficacy of war in ending terror!

Wrong on women's issues and health insurance!

Wrong, wrong, WRONG!

Posted by: martimr1 | August 3, 2008 8:00 PM

Mr. O did play the race. And he played it from the bottom of the deck by imputing to McCain words that McCain has not said. And, when McCain merely pointed this out, the Obamatrons jumped on McCain. This type of this is, precisely, why I'm for McCain.

Posted by: silly putty | August 3, 2008 8:14 PM

Even John Kerry didn't articulate it effectively - Senator Obama is extremely popular FOR A REASON.

Even if we only considered the way he has run his primary and general election campaigns, beating the two-headed Clinton machine, Senator Obama has demonstrated superior abilities in organization, strategy, fund-raising and financial management, policy-formation, marketing, communication, and unification. He won the endorsements of a majority of the superdelegates (political leaders in their own right) as well as endorsements from most of the largest newspapers in the country. The citizens and leaders of allied countries support him, and we desperately need a President who can win the cooperation of world leaders.

What has Senator Obama - not born to privilege as McCain was - accomplished? Open your mind and think about it.

Posted by: Barbara Campbell | August 3, 2008 8:19 PM

mccain is dangerous and reckless. he will deport all the cuban and mexican immigrants.he hates russia and will trigger off another cold war.soon as he enters whit house, he will hit the red buttons and send the tomahawks in irans direction and the whole middle east will erupt into war and the russians will join iran in the war against the us

Posted by: voteagainstmccain | August 3, 2008 8:27 PM

As usual, most of us really don't have anyone worth our vote. Senator McCain sits surrounded by the same old Washington/big money people and Obama trots out John Kerry, Bill and Hil and other people who don't reflect anything except the far left. Will we EVER get better candidates from which to choose? Hard to love your country and vote for one of these people.

Posted by: awenshok | August 3, 2008 8:27 PM

As a white man I know all to well how it feels when a mixed race person PLAYS THE RACE CARD from the bottom of the deck (and that is wrong). How many times I have hung my head in despair when confronted by bigoted insinuation. Poor John McCain. Obama might as well just call him a slobbering, doddering old fool that will say or do anything to perpetuate the rule of the neocons. Fortunately the American people, informed by our fair and balanced media celebrities, are far too wise to fall for such cheap tricks.

Posted by: branfo4 | August 3, 2008 8:31 PM

If anybody would know, it's John Kerry.

How America got to be dumb enough to vote for a draft dodging silverspoonfed monkey over a true war hero like Kerry... who actually went down a river rather than flying way up above it all in a plane...

I'll never understand.

Posted by: James McDouglas | August 3, 2008 8:31 PM

Obama can't be any worse than Gov. George Bush. ( Thats the only office he held legally )

Posted by: Will Fravel | August 3, 2008 8:34 PM

awenshock,

You don't understand our political system.

No, you will never, ever, ever, ever,... ever... see a candidate who represents your values.

And neither will I.

Why?

Because I have the suspicion that if you did, then that candidate wouldn't represent mine.

All Americans can do... in our two party system... is vote for the BETTER candidate.

If you're too immature to understand highschool civics class and learn to accept that that's our system of government... then you have two options.

1. Move to another country.

2. Grow up and swallow it and vote for the BETTER candidate.

That's what the rest of us do... so quit whining.

Posted by: James McDouglas | August 3, 2008 8:35 PM

Karl Rove and John McCain had sex in a men's room and there is a video? You have just ruined my dinner.

Posted by: joseph marcucilli | August 3, 2008 8:35 PM

martimr1,

"Experience doesn't matter if you're always wrong."

You're exactly right.

Most of our government is filled with politicians who make a career out of being consistently wrong. It's called the Republican Party. I think the DLC is in there too.

So why in the world would Americans want to vote for someone like that, someone like McCain?

In 2000, Americans wanted to vote for Bush because they thought he came from the business world and was an outsider to politics... sure that was a lie... but now all of a sudden that the Democrat is the one who's new to politics... it's unacceptable to the media and Republicans... rather than a positive.

Just goes to show the double standard practiced by Republicans and their tools in the corporate media.

It's not about ideals or truth to them... it's only about winning and making more money.

Posted by: James McDouglas | August 3, 2008 8:41 PM

WOW! The exact moment that OHB talked about "not looking like all those other Presidents" on our currency, is the exact moment he injected race into this campaign. Any other conclusion is the "big lie" of the first order. Watching Daschle and Kerry dancing on the bed of lies is pathetic and shows us what our Washington boys have become. Daschle looked especially moronic when trying to argue that OHB offered more debates. The ONE and ONLY is looking more like a hollow shell every day. I really wasn't crazy about McCain, but he is looking better by the moment.

Posted by: DerbyDaddy | August 3, 2008 8:42 PM

DerbyDaddy,

You need to get informed.

Obama was just responding to a McCain ad that made fun of him by putting his face on a dollar bill.

McCain was claiming he didn't look like the other presidents on the bills... so Obama said so.

It's pretty easy to understand. Only a mongoloid or a liar would be unable at this point.

Posted by: James McDouglas | August 3, 2008 8:45 PM

What war has John McCain won?

If McCain know how to win "the war", why hasn't he told George?

How does being a prisoner make McCain qualified to be president? There were approx 800 POW's held in Vietnam. Are they qualified to be president?

For the record McCain Voted AGAINST:
- amendment providing $20 billion to the VA's medical facilities (5/4/06)

- providing $430 million to the VA for outpatient care and treatment for veterans (4/26/06)

- increasing VA funding by $1.5 billion by closing corporate loopholes (3/14/06)

- increasing VA funding by $1.8 billion by ending abusive tax loopholes (3/10/04)

Also, for the record McCain DID NOT SUPPORT the new 21st Century GI Bill and could not be bothered to even show up for the vote. He has consistently voted against increasing funding for the Veterans' Admin. and medical care for veterans. Support the troops meant spending this time in California on a campaign and fund-raising trip instead of showing up to vote on the new GI Bill.

But then he is the war hero.

Posted by: sammy2 | August 3, 2008 8:47 PM

sammy2

McCain also said he had a "sure fire way" of capturing Osama Bin Laden if he was elected. He said it on national TV.

You'll notice he won't be saying that anymore since the left rightly pointed out that if he had a "sure fire way" it'd be treason not to have already proposed it to Bush... and then, we're curious as to what Bush said about McCain's plan? Whether it's already being implemented or had been rejected?

Because obviously McCain wouldn't keep secret a "sure fire plan" to catch Bin Laden just to win a political campaign...

would he?

That would make him a traitor to this country.

Posted by: James McDouglas | August 3, 2008 8:51 PM

A quetion for anyone who knows:

What are the names of the so-called journalist who went to the big barbeque and chicken fry that the McCains hosted for their base?

Posted by: sammy2 | August 3, 2008 8:52 PM

Poor Jawn. Maybe he should have acted more like an American and less like a socialist creep and he would have his portrait in the White House - instead of in Hanoi.

Maybe he should have spent more time supporting American servicemen instead of demonizing them - a habit he still can't seem to drop.

Oh well. A loser's advice is worth almost what he is charging for it.

Obama has yet to make the mistakes Kerry did - mostly by not doing anything at all, the perfect way to keep a perfect record - although his disgusting turning of his back to the wounded Americans in Germany over a basketball is a good start.

Having said that, though, I wonder if Bill Ayers, Farakhan and Wright rank up there with others who have declared war on America?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 9:00 PM


THIS PUTS THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE.........SHORT AND SWEET!!!!!!!!!


Congress Military


John McCain 26 Years 22 years


Barrack Obama 143 days 0
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: JOHN SPENCER | August 3, 2008 9:03 PM

Speaking of John McCain: Does he have a hearing problem?

McCain was asked a question during one of his so-call townhall meetings (stacked) in which his answer was so-far off the mark that it was not even funny. Either he has a hearing problem or he knows that most of those in the audience have no clue and don't have the intellectual curiosity to even get a clue.

McCain was asked whether his links to the Project for a New American Century explains why he is against a new investigation of 9/11?

McCain replied (paraphrasing): ".... that it was Joe Lieberman and I that sponsored the legislation for the 9/11 Commission. "...the administration was not enthusiastic about the establishment of that commission. I am proud of what the 9/11 Commission did; proud that we have enacted many of the reforms that they recommended; will stand by their recommendations and their conclusions, as will the overwhelming majority of Americans."

"It's a free country," McCain concluded. "You are free to disagree with their conclusions. But I am proud to have been one of those who was, along with Joe Lieberman, responsible for the establishment of the 9/11 Commission."

THE QUESTION WAS: if his links to the Project for a New American Century explains why he is against a new investigation of 9/11?

Also, the 911 commission was hardly his ideal.

Another question asked in a McCain stacked townhall dog-and-pony show related to his non-support of the new veterans bill (which he didn't even show up for what with fund-raising and all) and his no votes against proposals to increase health care funding for troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan in 2004, 05, 06 and 07?

His answer as a that "he supported by all of the veterans organizations".

What I have a hard time grapsing is that groups like the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars continue to support this man. McCain has a sorry record of actually supporting the troops where it counts, yet the people in these groups don't hesitate to dress up in their old uniforms just to appear on stage with McCain and have their picture taken shaking his hand.

The same thing with five deferment Cheney.

Posted by: sammy2 | August 3, 2008 9:05 PM

Has anyone noticed how Bush spends his time? He travels around pitching his policies and trying to convince us that everything is going well. Does anyone here think he is drawing on a deep policy background? Pulleeze! Measuring Obama against some hypothetical experience matrix is irrelevant. The question is will he be a better president than McCain? I think we all know the answer to that. I you liked the last 8 years you will love 4 more years of the same if McCain is elected. Personally I fear for the world and my country if McCain wins.

Posted by: CDgainesville | August 3, 2008 9:07 PM

At this point in the presidential election hurricane, I have no confidence in either candidate. Barak Obama is an idealist who can speak well as to what needs to be done to turn our country around, but doesn't offer down to earth means.

John McCain is simply a repeat performance of GW. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Both men are probably good men at heart. They both truly believe that they know what is best for the United States.

McCain and Obama are in an election where they are in danger of selling their souls for the title President of the United States. How many completely honest politicians do any of us really know? How many politicians have not at one time or another said things about their competition that late at night after the election they are truly sorry for?

For so called supporters of either candidate in this election to respond to each other in satirical and hateful language does not help either man. Of course some folks just enjoy stirring things up on blog sites. And some folks are just misinformed. And of course there are those who will always vote for the party that their family or their union or their church suggests.

It would be so wonderful for once to have a civilized election: one where true democracy is illustrated to other countries of the world, instead of our usual name-calling and dirt throwing tactics. Of course I'm being an idealist now!

The truth is we don't know what either man will be capable of once they are elected. The congress usually has the power to change any President's campaign promises.

At this point we have to judge these men on the company they keep. And boy is that a hard one!

Good luck to all of you naysayers on either side of the fence. And good luck to those of you who are true supporters of your candidate.

One final note: Good luck to Joe Lieberman on his next job because after this term he won't be a senator from CT again. Not a dig... just a fact.

Posted by: Kay from CT | August 3, 2008 9:10 PM

Guess he should have crashed a few jets to make himself "experienced?"

I think you mean to say "shot down." But to a leftist - whats the difference?

Actually the experience part with regards to legislating - is well, legislating. Something totally foreign to Obama.

The experience in Viet Nam which McCain has points solidly towards courage, bravery and unabashed love of country. Those are kind of prerequisites to being a commander in chief.

I really don't think those words are in Obama's vocabulary.

Not from his personal experience, anyway.

Lets sum this up:

Bush served in the reserves = unqualified.

McCain served in combat, was prisoner of war in true torture conditions = unqualified.

Obama has never done anything of any meaning other than community organizing - whatever that means. He was/is connected to a vote rigging organization and has ties to an admitted terrorist.

HUGELY QUALIFIED!

Too bad he is running for president of America - not some leftist jerkwater university - then most of America would agree (and could not care less) he is indeed hugely qualified.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 9:10 PM

it is time for england to take back this country

Posted by: sharif | August 3, 2008 9:10 PM

Thank God we've almost seen the last of Lieberman. He has no constituency; he's hated in his own former neighborhood. he represents no one but himself. As a resident of Connecticut, I feel betrayed by this self-serving, smarmy hack and tool of special interests.

Posted by: JP Zenger | August 3, 2008 9:11 PM

McCain is too old to be president! I am not his age and know that I have slipped from being the quick thinking decisive person I used to be. It is darn hard to be wakened at 3 am for a potty break much less have to make an important decision that would affect the entire country.
Also McCain played the race card way before Obama did. Remember his ad where the face on the bill morphed into the face of Obama? That is what Obama was referring to when he said he doesn't look like the other faces on the bills.
If they are not trying to play the race card why did/do they insist on using Obamas middle name?
By bringing up the celebrity issue they are trying to instill the thought they also mean to instill when they refer to Obama as uppity, arrogant and whatever other word that has been used though many years to refer to black people. Soon I expect to hear an ad by McCain that comes right out and says what these other ads intend to imply, Obama doesn't know his place.
This campaign of McCain truly makes me sick!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 9:16 PM

Bringing up B Hussein's middle name has nothing to do with race.

Nice try, though!

You get the NPR cookie of the week.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 9:25 PM

We saw very generation only few leader can inspire and motivate million of people and
Made good change for mankind /
Obama is that kind of leader for our generation who can inspire and motivated million of people and lead our nation and the world for better future.

Posted by: Titu choudhury | August 3, 2008 9:26 PM

Ok, so what exactly has McCain done in his wonderful career?

Keating 5

McCain/Feingold (that really fixed the campaign finance system didn't it?)

Helped get us into Iraq

How about just one even halfway decent speech?

Posted by: John Doug | August 3, 2008 9:27 PM

Apologies to Elizabeth Taylor because I like her a lot. However: she is an experienced wife, but would you employ her as a marriage guidance counsellor? What is so sacred about experience? Who is to decide what experience is relevant and who is it that defines "experience"? McCain has had experience- yeah experience at supporting a disastrous war that killed 4000 USA troops for no good purpose. Yeah McCain has wife deserting experience... experience at making 30 condemnations of America as a POW when others did not... experience at being abysmally ignorant (Iraq bordering Afghanistan and confusing Sunni and Shia). What does experience actually mean? Does McCain have any experience in constitutional law of which Barack is a professor? Surely this experience is more relevant for a president than deserting a disabled wife. Surely defeating the nearly invincible Clintons in a brilliantly conducted primary campaign indicates superb political experience. I am going to play a race card right now: I am a white person and I really really like Barack Obama.

Posted by: Bill Kane | August 3, 2008 9:35 PM

McCain is a joke. How does a presidential candidate run out of ideas in August? The Britney/Paris thing makes him look even more out of touch. I guess they thought attacking Obama was a good way to handle the 200,000 that came out to see Obama. After all, in inward focussed campaign would force him to figure out how he overcomes the fact thathe is old, boring, ill-tempered, unoriginal and wrong. I guess if I had that kind of hand I would go negative early too.

Posted by: James Webster | August 3, 2008 9:44 PM

Has McCain said anything untrue? I haven't seen it. I have heard Kerry whine about being "swiftboated" for years now.
It is hard to take that seriously when he never mentions anyone else getting "Fahrenhieted". When he does that, his opinion will become credible on the subject.
I really haven't heard Obama actually say much of anything, inspite of the magnitude of his verbage.

Posted by: Sternberg | August 3, 2008 9:46 PM

It's not celebrity, it's leadership. What Obama possesses is the ability to inspire and lead. The fact that he can inspire should be admitted without debate; he has energized the youth in America as no other candidate in history ever has. He inspired and energized Europeans as no "candidate" has in the past. And that he is smart, a quick learner, well oragnized and a born leader is demonstrated by the campaign he has put together.

The McCain/Rove tactic is to take this strength and attempt to turn it into a negative by recharacterizing/redefining it as celebrity. And to say "that's not all he's got," is to miss the point. What he's got is the demonstrated ability to inspire and lead, not only Americans but the world. Qualities that have been sorely lacking in our leaders these last eight years.

Posted by: michael stehle | August 3, 2008 9:47 PM

I agree, it is all about leadership. Obama has already proved he knows how to run a tight ship in the primaries. He can lead, win and inspire and the Republican attack machine wants to boil that down to celebrity status. That's pretty lame and it will not work.

Posted by: Uzoma | August 3, 2008 10:01 PM

Heard this in canada:- 97 0/0 of politicans are lying and the other 3 0/0 are learning how to tell a lie.

Posted by: sharif | August 3, 2008 10:03 PM

Is it character assination to tell the truth about McCain's audulterous acitivites
with his current wife and how he abandoned the wife of his children. Or is that old news. Is it character assisination to mention the truth about the drugee he married. Or is that old news. People who live in class houses shouldn't throw stones. Does McCain have family in Vietnam?

Posted by: MissClarity | August 3, 2008 10:46 PM

"WASHINGTON - Intensified attacks by Republican John McCain on the character of his Democratic opponent have coincided with Barack Obama losing a nine percentage point advantage in a national poll, which showed the candidates running dead even over the weekend."

For everyone who wonders why the McCain campaign attacked Obama.

Posted by: Geonerd | August 3, 2008 10:51 PM

Kerry's such a panty waist.

Posted by: HawaiianGecko | August 3, 2008 10:57 PM

Please have a look on it!

Fellow republicans we have elected in 1980 a celebrity that stays one of the best republican president we've ever had.

Have a look on this please: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKXVDbvkoQ

I am voting democrat in November. In no way, it could support that bunch of liars that put us that mess!
The Republican party needs to regenerate and this can only happen if they are kicked out of power. We need new leadership in the republican party.

Posted by: mlm | August 3, 2008 10:57 PM

Kerry's a politician which means he's a cheat and a liar. When he's not kissing babies, he's stealing their lolly pops.

Obama on the other hand has had such a positive effect on Illinios. The state was in ruins for the last 180 years, and if it wasn't for Obama they'd still be miserable.

What a guy!

Posted by: HawaiianGecko | August 3, 2008 11:02 PM

This is why Mark McKinnon said early on that he would resign as John McCain's advisor if Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination. He refused to be involved in a campaign against Barack Obama. Connect the dots - obviously he had read the script Team McCain planned to use. So why isn't anyone asking him for comment on the current kerfluffle?

http://www.pstrategies.com/personprofile.php?eid=160

Posted by: Tom J | August 3, 2008 11:08 PM

First you must have character before it can be assassinated!

Posted by: Ralph Lamberson | August 3, 2008 11:11 PM

How about Britney and McCain?

Both love George W. Bush.

Britney scored a hit with "Opps . . . I did it again."

McCain didn't quite hit the charts with "Bomb, Bomb, Iran," but his campaign certainly seems to be hoodwinking the American people for fall for the same old set of tricks.

YouTube, as per usual, hits all the right notes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0Kb2SnD_Q&feature=dir

Posted by: JP2 | August 3, 2008 11:13 PM

Last year W's Oil buddy (Mr. Hunt) from Texas signed the first OIL contract in Iraq before it was legal. Two weeks ago the rest of the BIG OIL companies signed their no bid contracts.

At last....MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!

Guess why McBush wants to stay in Iraq now that the "Surge" may have worked? Think about it, BIG OIL just wrote McBush some big checks. Could it be they want to be sure our kids protect their damn oil fields???

Posted by: Misty | August 3, 2008 11:28 PM

What experience does mccain have besides living off the tax payers his whole life?

McCain:
Bottom of class
POW
Adulterer
Thief (Keating 5)
More illegals enter through his state than any other(he'll protect us though)
Very little if any legislation in 28 yrs

Obama:
Graduated Colombia College(Foreign Relations Degree)
Graduated Harvard Law (Editor of Harvard Law Review,First Black to do so)
Practicing Attorney
Taught Constitutional Law

Now tell me who is more Presidential.

Posted by: jime | August 3, 2008 11:35 PM

John 'maverick' McCain just got corralled in with the Republican herd. McCain may not have a "racist bone in his body" as his friend Joe Leiberman says but the folks running the RNC coordinated campaign of lies, distortions, half-truths and fear-mongering sure do. John, these guys are slime balls and your embrace of them and their tactics speaks volumes. Your willingness to embrace them makes you unqualified to lead America.

Posted by: thebob.bob | August 3, 2008 11:46 PM

Hey, Fairfax voter.....Thanks for your precis of Obama's credentials. He's the real thing. I am reading his "Dreams from My Father" and think that we would be a fortunate country indeed if such a thoughtful and wise man would go through the torment of fighting to become President of the U.S.

Go, Obama! This guy is the real thing.

nfahr

Posted by: nfahr | August 3, 2008 11:49 PM

The ghost of Saddam is alive and well in GWB forcing itself mercilessly upon the Iraqi people,
McBush now fully possessed preparing to carry out the wishes of the ghost.
The equation is simple if McBush wins, Iraq would have to be repopulated, nations will drift further away from the idealogies of America and Americans will be seen as no less than the very same people they seek to kill.
Can anyone tell me who has taken more American and Iraqi lives, Is it the REAL SADDAM or the GHOSTlY SADDAM?
Obama preaches peace and unification with all creeds race or culture."THE NEW AGE POWER SURGE" it built America.
Obama is the ONE that will reconcile the nations and bring greater love and respect for America.
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: The west-indian | August 3, 2008 11:52 PM

Bill Kane: Well said. Your excellent points show that the "experience" issue is as spurious as all the others purporting to prove that Obama is "unqualified" to be President.

I had been a life-long Republican until Bush the Dumber...er, Younger. He fooled me once, but not twice. I haven't left the GOP, they left me! Their consistent choice of bought-and-paid-for stooges of big oil and big business, to the everlasting detriment of the American people, has finally made me say, "Enough!". I should have known that Ron Paul had no chance - since no one owns him, he got no support, or even respect, from the GOP or the media. (You'll notice where his support came from - the common people!).

It's time for me to vote for someone far more qualified to be President than these ancient GOP party hacks that can only promise more of the same. That someone is Barack Obama. (And yes, I'm white, too). Sure, I'm a little nervous about his real agenda, but his spoken and written agenda (check his website) is just what I would propose. John McBush makes me far more nervous, for he promises nothing new and nothing good for America. It's time to take a chance on "change" - what we've had isn't working.

Posted by: A. Stewart | August 3, 2008 11:54 PM

NObamaDem says:

"...if we allow this farce of an election to happen our democracy based upon we the people picking our presidential candidates will be forever broken. No reason to vote any more because your votes won't count."

Sooooo, if we allow the people to choose a president and their choice turns out to be Obama, that would be bad, so we should not have a democratic election in order to preserve democracy?

Iiiii'm not followin' ya there, buddy

Posted by: schnail | August 3, 2008 11:56 PM

These options about drilling off shore is all hos wash, because it will take at least 5 years to realize any oil production form this minor and dubious source. The SOB oil companies are sitting on enough leases all over this country, and they have made no attempts to drill. The other so called dry or abandoned wells that have oil are not in operation because the oil companies are not concerned or bothered about less then ten % profits. They want 33% or over.

For SOB George Bush to tell the public to cut back when the prices are high, he should first cut back and park that 747 and the rest of the fleet that has to escort him all over the world. The best he can do for the duration of his term is to stay put in the white house and mow the lawn.

Posted by: winemaster2 | August 4, 2008 12:18 AM

Kerry is right.
McCain's spokespeople pump the "rock-star" image, driving it home in every phrase of every sentence so pointedly, with the full approval of whosever show it is, that I want to reach through the screen and cheerfully strangle both.
One for provoking it; the other for allowing it.
Yet, it doesn't move the campaign forward one iota.
What more do we know about McCain, when their 2 minutes on air is over?
Nothing.
That's just what McCain wants.
That way, no matter what the issue is, McCain can take whatever position suits his purpose at the time without anyone saying, but 6 months ago ... 2 years ago ... you did this, you took that position.
You have to almost be a walking encyclopedia of the history of each candidate to recognize the flips and flops.
At least with Obama, you have position papers.
With McCain, for all his exalted "experience", he's like fog.
There's nothing there.
Except a snarling, whiny character assassin, in bed with all those who did the same to him 8 years ago.
Maybe Mr. McCain's real leftover from his experience as a POW is "Stockholm Syndrome."
The truth is the no-bid contractors know, if Obama wins, the gravy train is at an end.
Obama can cut the cost of the few months left by half to two-thirds very easily.
What McCain will never acknowledge is that Obama's speech in Berlin was a masterful piece of diplomacy; you have to know your German history of the Berlin airlift to appreciate it.
You can bet the Germans do.
McCain doesn't strike me as a man who reads enough to produce anything remotely comparable.
That's part of the reason McCain was so whiny the week he squandered while Obama was on his trip.
The McCain campaign is a sad excuse.
And we have to endure another 3 months of this trivia.
Tiring.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | August 4, 2008 12:33 AM

If one goes by Obama's own definition of race-card that he use in the Democratic primaries to attack his oppents, then yes Obama, by your own definition, you were the first to play the race-card.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | August 4, 2008 12:38 AM

Tony V,

At least Obama taught Constitutional Law for 12 years, so he knows what the Constitution says and will abide by it--A BIG change from Bush/Cheney

Posted by: Loraine | August 4, 2008 12:39 AM

A QUESTION

This is a dangerous time for Obama. This is the Bush camp at its most Machiavellian.

While McCain tells bad jokes that resonate only with the most idiotic voters of all, the Homer Simpsons of this world, his staff waits for Obama to slip up. All it takes is once slip, one flip comment that can be taken way out of context and repeated until it becomes THE TRUTH. We all know how that goes by now, don't we?

Further, while he repeats inanities, he doesn't have to say anything he can be held accountable for, while forcing Obama to actually say something.

My question is this: how long will the republican one trick ponies hang on to power by pulling this same old tired guff over and over?

I think every thinking man's nightmare is some gray haired old bastard shouting "The truth will be what I tell you is the truth!"

Well, here we are eight years into this particular nightmare...

Posted by: Spitfire | August 4, 2008 12:47 AM

So I've read an entire thread of anti-Obama spin. So what is it exactly that McSame offers again? If McCain has a shot at Supreme Court appointments, then this republic is history.

Posted by: covered | August 4, 2008 1:17 AM

"You're making a personal insult to John McCain," Lieberman said. "This man does not have a bigoted bone in his body,"

"Sen. John McCain told reporters, 'I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.' "


Benedict Lieberman gets it wrong again.

Posted by: Patrick Huss | August 4, 2008 5:17 AM

No surprise here on Kerry feeling that Obama is being Swift-Boated after all it's his answer as to why he did not win his bid for the Presidency. Let's examine the negative ads shell we?
The One and the Paris Hilton one. Got your attention did it not? That is what an ad is suppose to do. What did it tell you? What was it asking you? Is charisma the only qualification you need to be President? Are you being sold a package that looks good and you really know nothing about? Pause and research this candidate is this what you really want? If you have read Obama's two books or are relying on word of mouth about them then you owe it to yourself to read Obama Nation. What's to fear you can compare the books and make your own decision your vote is your own. There are two sides to every coin examine both.

Next let's look at this dealing from the bottom of the deck race comment. Obama calls McCain cynical (one who attributes all actions to selfish motives) so lets examine this shall we?
On three separate occasions Obama's comments about they are trying to scare you ect. were made and Obama and his staff knew full well that the press would call the McCain people seeking a comment about it. Obama consistently used this tactic to his advantage to stifle speaking about issues during the primary to his advantage. McCain called him on it and did not use a 527 to do it for him. This threw the spotlight on Obama's obtuse strategy to make race the issue and avoid speaking about the issues. After all it worked so well for him during the primary, it is his way of hamstringing the oppenet. Because McCain spoke out himself it also took away the "See I told you so, the republicans use 527's to Swift-Boat me. card from his deck. Also removed from Obama's deck is the very reason he gave for going back on his promise to accept public financing. Remember that? Obama could raise more money this way because those ruthless Republicans would use their powerful 527's to Swift-Boat him. Now stop and ask yourself this. With all the money Obama has taken in and all of the media attention why are the poll numbers what they are? Not getting enough bang for the buck? He has conducted a love me, adore me, campaign with promises that change according to the audience he is speaking to.
Obama supporters if you would like to discuss issues request to your candidate that he do a few town hall meetings. What are you afraid of? Obama's strategy is to play it safe and not do this. Obama speaks of McCain injecting fear into the campaign in order to bring him down. I will counter that and say the opposite is true. From the postings of the Obama supporters on this board I find the character assassination of McCain and the McBush antics of his supporters to be just the injection of fear Obama supports in order to get elected. Issues, Issues, Issues, Ask your candidate to come out and debate in place of running down the clock.
The only real fear I see for Obama in a debate is he will have to break the age old law for a lawyer: Do not ask (or be asked) a question that you do not know the answer for or are unwilling to make known your true position. Every one is allowed to change their mind as conditions change but not as the audience you are speaking to from day to day changes.
We are electing a President so let's stop making this a personality issue and get to the issues? As a post above states:
"I think every thinking man's nightmare is some gray haired old bastard shouting "The Truth will be what I tell you is the truth"
I will counter it a thinking person asks the question: What exactly is change we can believe in? We all get one vote and each of us must make the determination for ourselves how we will cast it. See you in November.

Posted by: Jace | August 4, 2008 6:09 AM


Character IS a major issue in this race, so any time there are true issues re. NObama's character in ADs. etc. - NObama surrogates such as Kerry are going to charge "character assassination" (or make even worse accusations).

Joe Lieberman on "Meet the Press" is RIGHT.

McCAIN for President '08 !!

Posted by: CJB in CA | August 4, 2008 6:39 AM

I love it when the McCain campaign takes the words, "I don't look like the other presidents on the dollar bills" and says that is racist. Which word is racist? I guess McCain can't say a word about Obama's age or his own or he will be discriminating against him for his age. Now if Obama had said he's going to say I am not qualified or not going to win because I am black which is what they are trying to say he said it would be racist or nearer. He didn't say it and for Lindsay Gramm to say it is a lie sounds desperate to me. And regarding debates why did John McCain refuse an invitation for a July 4th town hall or August Lincoln/Douglas type debates? I heard they didn't even get a reply from McCain on those. It is clear to me McCain is a stubborn man who wants to dictate the rules so he will prosper and will accept nothing if he thinks he is going to look bad. In that case though I don't know why he gives speeches at all? What we have is like a David and Goliath only this time the Goliath (Obama) will win. Some may say that McCain is the Goliath because of his "experience" but just like HIllary he hasn't told us what that experience is or leads to. Whatever, Obama is the winning candidate on ideas, behavior, organization, speaking ability and public appeal.

Posted by: ktlin | August 4, 2008 7:02 AM

Character? When did he start dating Cindy? Was he married already? Character? Keating 5 scandal? Character? Temper tantrums, foul language, insulting belittling behavior. Character? Accusing someone of being elitest yet your wife spends $750,000 a month for expenses with money her family made for beer distribution and you wear $542 shoes. Character? Having someone run ads for you to say Obama is the Messiah, Moses, the Annointed One. Character? Not only no character but blasphemous and really taking tackyand taking about the lowest road you can find. That doesn't address his lack of organization, speaking skills, and everything essential to be president like public appeal. The McCain campaign knows they have lost the election after Obama's outstanding trip abroad and they are dumb enough to keep showing the picture of the crowd. Obama did not invite, coerce, request or do anything to get the crowd there. We do not have influence over 200,000 Germans. They came on their own. And he is criticized for what? McCain wishes he had that appeal. And someone mentioned Reagan. Oh yes he was a celebrity! And that could be one of the main reasons he won.

Posted by: ktlin | August 4, 2008 7:23 AM

Spitfire says "My question is this: how long will the republican one trick ponies hang on to power by pulling this same old tired guff over and over?"

THE ANSWER

As long as the average American watches 6 hrs of TV each day....as long as the average American has the attention span of a fruitfly.......as long as more people vote in American Idol than in a Presidential election....as long as....well, you get the picture!

Posted by: Geonerd | August 4, 2008 7:35 AM

Kerry, what a joke. Not too bright either. Character assassination only works if their is an element of truth to it.

The liberals tried for years to tarnish Reagons character with much worse accusations than Kerry ever recieved. None of them stuck because everyone could tell the accusations were inane.

Posted by: reason | August 4, 2008 11:18 AM

As the GOP panic starts to boil,we get to watch the meltdown in the form of Lindsey Graham, Lieberman et al screeching on TV, along with the MSM who's corporate owners want nothing to do with Obama. And why would they? War is good for corporations and rich folk.

Posted by: Truthbtold | August 4, 2008 11:27 AM

Let's suppose that McRove wins in November by character assasination. Record deficits, foreign wars, health care costs, morgage defaults and ONE PISSED OFF ELECTORATE, democrate controlled congress. What might this spell for the GOP?

Posted by: mike | August 4, 2008 12:05 PM

Its great to see Kerry campaigning for Barack Hussein Obama!! I am sure he will work wonders for him. NOT!!

Barack is Affirmative Action Run Amok. Electing this dude POTUS will destroy America as we know it.

RW

Posted by: Ruth Werre | August 4, 2008 12:39 PM

I agree, it is all about leadership. Obama has already proved he knows how to run a tight ship in the primaries. He can lead, win and inspire and the Republican attack machine wants to boil that down to celebrity status. That's pretty lame and it will not work.

Posted by: Uzoma | August 3, 2008 10:01 PM
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Uzoma: Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod is the person running Obama's tight ship. David Axelrod is the person with leadership qualities, not Obama. Obama just does what Axelrod tells him to do.

Posted by: Stephen | August 4, 2008 1:10 PM

Seems to me his highness Reagan was involved in a little scandal called Iran Contra. He also had a memory problem and Alzhiemers. He will be remembered as one of the worst presidents ever. Why do you Repugs continue to deify him? Oh, I forgot-you're the party of Bush jr and McSame.

Posted by: Patty | August 4, 2008 2:02 PM

McCain may not be a racist, but he has shown that he will do or say anything to win the Presidency. It is very sad to see someone with a Military Family pedigree lose all core values in order to grab power.

I would imagine that the early under achiever at the Academy was a preview of the candidate running today.

Posted by: Patricia W. Neal | August 4, 2008 2:58 PM

Whiners. Man up, Democrats. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. I would think you all could handle it, given your candidate is nothing but hot air. You must be so proud of your empty suit.

Posted by: Fed Up | August 4, 2008 3:03 PM

Diane72 is a racist, knuckle-dragging moron not worth the space her vile attacks take up. She's not fir to hold Michelle Obama's coat and sh knows it.
Jealousy is an ugly thing

Posted by: BaracktheVote | August 4, 2008 3:10 PM

Senator Kerry, glad to see you're fighting back now that it no longer matters. Too bad you didn't handle it this way four years ago.

I guess you were against fighting back before you were for it.

Posted by: Paul | August 4, 2008 3:12 PM

I have read through most of the comments and I can see why we as a nation are so divided. We have become so engrained in R versus D and how we can tear apart the other side that we have failed to listen. So caught up in the minutia of you're bad, he's bad, she's bad. What is best for all of the U.S. Who has gained over the past eight years? Do you think these people and corporations give a damn about these character assinations on either side? No. So maybe you want to stop for a second and think about how we can start talking again about the issues that affect us all.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 3:38 PM

Joe Lieberman says that in order to clear the McCain camp from charges of racism "the Arizona senator and his wife have adopted a child from Bangladesh."

The kind of racist subtext that David Gergen highlighted yesterday on ABC's This Week is one in which African-Americans generally and Obama in particular become subtly tagged as "uppity," striving for positions beyond their current station.

Isn't McCain himself "uppity" by the same token? Aren't we all?

Racism bares a thousand faces.

Posted by: FirstMouse | August 4, 2008 5:17 PM

Eight years in a state legislature, an incompleted term in Congress and a "cram" course in a war zone does not qualify anyone to be my Commander in Chief.

Posted by: wingman | August 3, 2008 4:19 PM
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Conversely, I'm guessing that you thought that one term as the weakest governor in the nation was more than enough qualifications for "the Decider"....

Posted by: pcpatterson | August 4, 2008 6:15 PM

Yes, John McCain adopted a child from Bangladesh. The child is dark. It was the George Bush primary campaign in South Carolina (2000) that accused McCain of fathering a black child out of wedlock.
Are these the weasels Senator Lieberman is supporting?

Posted by: DIck Brandlon | August 4, 2008 8:08 PM

I'm really going to have to hold my nose to vote this year, If I had my way, we would vote ALL incumbents out. They are much more interested in being elected than they are in doing the right thing.

Posted by: Francis Godici | August 4, 2008 8:18 PM

I don't understand why people are saying that McCain's ads are racist.

First, was it racist because he had an ad with Obama's face on a dollar bill? How is that racist? People won't vote for Obama if they imagine his face on our currency? How does that thinking go,

"Well, I was going to vote for Obama until I saw McCain's ad. I'm fine with a black man in the White House, but our money is sacred white man territory!" Huh?

And what about the celebrity ad... people are saying that it's racist because it features Obama and two white women... that's racist? That suggests miscegenation? Really? So any media image showing Obama next to a white woman is racist because it suggests old tropes about black men and white women? Well, if that's the case, I'm sure angry about all those Obama/Clinton debates!

Posted by: JTHC | August 4, 2008 8:22 PM

PLEASE, mcbraonless HAS ON MORE THAN OHNE OCCASION REFERRED TO HIS "AGE" IS THAT AN AGE CARD?

OBAMA CAN BRING UP HIS RACE ANY TIME HE CHOOSES JUST AS THE OTHER ONE CAN BRING UP AGE.
GRAB A CLUE, BY OWNING IT AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE, ANY OTHER MENTION OF RACE BY OTHERS IS DIFFUSED.
Republicans once again have run away from an opportunity to provide a short-term solution to our energy crisis," Reid said. "While Democrats have worked to stop greedy speculators who artificially inflate oil prices, Republicans have chosen to protect them."

Senate Republicans strongly opposed the bill because it focused only on speculation, and they argued the legislation should be modified to also boost U.S. oil production by allowing more offshore drilling and developing vast oil shale fields in the West.

Democrats wanted to protect offshore areas closed to energy exploration and pointed out that oil companies already held millions of acres they leased from the government that were not being drilled.


McCain said that: "As for offshore drilling, it's safe enough these days that not even Hurricanes Katrina and Rita could cause significant spillage from the battered rigs off the coasts of New Orleans and Houston."
In fact, Katrina and Hurricane Rita caused damage to oil rigs and storage facilities in the Gulf, according to press reports and government studies.

The hurricanes totally destroyed 113 oil rigs, according to the government's Minerals Management Service, and damaged 457 pipelines. The resulting oil spills were large enough to be seen from space, according to several reports

A review by the Houston Chronicle reported that the two storms in the summer of 2005 caused 595 oil spills that released an estimated 9 million gallons of oil into the gulf, much of that from oil storage facilities on the shores.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442

Posted by: Katerina Deligiannis | August 4, 2008 9:18 PM

To OBamaDem,
Obama flipflops and is a pleaser,dangerous puppet? McCain is just the same,don't yuh know? He said the troops can stay in Iraq for 100 years more, then NOW he changes position INTO withdrawal of troops can be done according the situation on the ground, so everyone now FORGETS that he ever was an EAGLE favoring to continue Bush' war... (He is mimicking Obama's policy so popular)
And about oil drilling bill? He opposes it before changing position in June, NOW he FAVORS oil drilling. Say NObamaDem, is McCain flipflopping or not?
Obama is inexperienced because he was only a Senator for 12 years, McCain 25 years and a military veteran too..Well, don't anyone read what the political experts said about the two candidates?
"They are BOTH inexperienced because none has been on executive jobs (meaning none has been a Governor,etc).They are both only experienced in making bills and laws!"
Experience as Military veteran? In foreign military governed countries, no Airforce officer or commander is deemed experienced to govern,only the Army generals does count,why? Pilots only sees the sky when flying,never had to fight with the guerilla's or enemies'Army's,or govern an occupied zone.
Gen Petraeus is far more experienced (when counting about governing people) than a pilot flying a few years and only have spent a long time in the Military as a Vietnam prisoner

Posted by: om santi | August 4, 2008 10:28 PM

Posted by: Tony V | August 3, 2008 3:02 PM

Kerry countered, "It tries to insinuate that his celebrity is all [Obama] has."
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Ok, so what else does he have?

Harvard Law Review editor (nothing published himself)? Community Organizer? A whopping 1 year in the Senate? (No legislation written)...

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SOME OF OBAMA'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS
1. Obama has ELEVEN years of Senate experience to Hillary's EIGHT. He was in the Illinois state senate for 8 years and has been in the U.S. senate since January 2005. In the state senate he sponsored 780 bills, of which 280 were signed into law. In the U.S. senate he has sponsored about 152 bills and resolutions, and cosponsored about 427. 2. He worked as a community organizer in Chicago, making $13 an hour, helping thousands of people who had lost manufacturing jobs get back on their feet (jobs, health care, housing). He also helped register 150,000 voters. 3. Obama sponsored the Health Care Justice Act in 2004, which "encourages Illinois to implement a health care plan that provides access to a full range of preventive, acute and long-term health care services." 4. He sponsored a 2003 bill that expanded KidCare and FamilyCare, health insurance programs for low-income families in Illinois which led to more than 150,000 additional people receiving health insurance through these programs. 5. He introduced a bill that required that police officers tape interrogations. This bill passed in the Senate 58-0. The Governor who originally opposed this bill, signed it into law. 6. He increased the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.50. 7. Obama cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John McCain. It passed 62-36. 8. He Worked with republican senator Lugar to expand and author a program to locate & dismantle stray Russian WMD's left over from the cold war after the disbanding of the USSR. 9. In the first two weeks of the 110th Congress, Senator Obama helped lead the Senate to pass the Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act a comprehensive ethics and lobbying reform bill, by a 96-2 vote. This landmark bill was signed into law by the President in September 2007. The final bill that the Congress passed closely mirrored and drew key provisions in a bill that Senators Obama and Senator Feingold introduced in January 2007 to establish a "gold standard" for reform 10. He toured Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, Palestinian territories and told Palestinian Authority Abbas that the United States would never recognize Hamas leaders until they renounced mission to attack Israel. 11. As an Illinois State Senator, he helped pass the state's first major ethics reform bill in 25 years. Would you like me to go on? Oh and here's an 11th accomplishment: He beat the Clintons! Not just Hillary, but all three of the Clintons. The Clinton brand is VERY powerful. They have been on the political scene for decades. Everyone is a familiar with them; they have strong ties with a whole host of Democratic leaders and many states as well. I mean, they were Preisdent and First Lady for 8 years! Obama was not really well-known outside of Illinois until 2004. Yet he has managed to run a better campaign than them and has beat them. That's HUGE. People shouldn't take the candidates and the media at their word. Go to the candidates' Senate Web sites and their campaign Web sites and READ what they have done and plan to do. INFORM YOURSELF.

Posted by: JA | August 4, 2008 10:58 PM

Posted by: NObamaDem | August 3, 2008 4:21 PM

Where exactly does Obama stand on any issues? No one knows becasue he's flip-flopped on just about evey single important issue he's run on thus far.
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Jukebox John keeps changing his tune
Below you'll find a comprehensive list of reversals from the Republican nominee, numbered and organized by category for easier reference.

Remember, McCain recently said, "This election is about trust and trusting people's word." Just a few days prior, the McCain campaign admonished Obama for trying to "have it both ways" on issues.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 11:22 PM

I can hardly believe I supported Kerry! I wanted to barf when he accused McCain of character assination aimed at B. Obama. It's laughable, really. In the first place, you have to have character to assisinate it. Why didn't the DNC vet their choice before putting him forth as a qualified nominee? I still think that good character counts and I also believe that you can tell who a person is be the company he keeps: Auchi, Rezkko, Marzook, Davis, Ayers, Meeks, Odinga, Rev. Wright, Father Flager, to name some of the knowns at this time.

Before throwing the oil companies at McCain, the DNC should look in their own back yard: Good Will, Austin TX; $10,450
Martin Dies, Austin TX; $13,800
Rajeev Date, NY NY $20,700. I thought the personal limit was $2,300. Interesting names don't you think?
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"The Real Barack Obama" tells us that Monir Edwan and Hosam Edwan from "Rafah GA" donated $29,500 to Barack Obama's campaign. They just happen to be members of a large Hamas-Supporting clan.

Speaking to WND, the two brothers praised Obama and admitted giving the money online to his campaign. They said they are not U.S. citizens but are citizens of "Palestine."

But wait! Before you judge these innocent men from the nonexistent "Rafah GA," they said it's all about Obama T-shirts. After all, Barack Obama is indeed very popular among Israel-bombing folks. So, the enterprising brothers bought a boatload of them and claimed to be Americans living in Georgia. Cool. No problem there, right? Nothing sneaky or anything, right?

The donations would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving donations from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, told WND in response to a query.*
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*source an article in NoQuarterUSA

No way was I going to vote for a Republican president. But the mainstream media is so in the tank for one candidate, that I had to go online and hunt for information on my own. I've never agreed with everything a candidate I voted for said he stood for and there are things about McCain that disturb me that I also went on line to search out. Taking into account what I've learned about Obama and the anti-democratic process used to select him, I'd vote for George W Bush before I'd place my vote for Obama. That being said, my vote will be for McCain.

Do your own research folks. You won't find it on the mainstream tv channels' evening news and you have to dig too much to find it in the press. I feel like I've watched the free press, guardian of freedom and democracy, draw it's dying breath this year.

Posted by: CountryFirst | August 5, 2008 1:49 AM

Kerry's "character assasination" whine is bemusing. McCain's campaign is using nothing more than BO's megalomaniacal proclivities and his own race baiting words to inform the voters of his true character. The Dems, specifically including the Kerry campaign, resort to employing the ever so willing mainstream media to fabricate military histories disparaging the character of one willing to fly and die for his country. Lies so vicious that their exposition forced the resignation of Dan Rather. Experts in character assasination bemoaning satirical depicitions of BO getting the attention he seeks is quite entertaining, really.

They should stick to promissing unconstitutional vote buyers like stealing profits from oil companies and giving away $1,000 gas credits.

Posted by: Mike Snyder | August 5, 2008 6:58 AM

Testing comments ...

Posted by: Bob Greiner | August 6, 2008 1:23 PM

Obama has to have character to begin with

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Posted by: liza | August 6, 2008 10:24 PM

But if they really want to "score"some points with McCaint....become a "blogger"

Here's Why...

..Another McCaint supporter..looking to get some points...

McCaint rewarding anyone who makes negative remarks about Mr Obama and positive ones about McCaint......The "point" system...."revealed"

500 Points...a shirt
2000 Points a coffee cup
10000 Points a signed book
100000 points a signed picture
1000000 points a ride on his "Straight Talk" Bus
10000000 points a ride on his "Straight Talk" Airplane
100000000 points a front row seat at the RNC/GOP convention
1000000000 points become Vice President of the United States....

Pathetic, Sad, & Laughable.....

These RNC/GOP card holders must take hot showers to remove the elephant crap from their sickly bodies.....

Posted by: AlexP1 | August 8, 2008 8:21 AM

It is hard to debate someone who keeps changeing his position everytime he thinks the voters do not like it. Left against Hillary then not for drilling wait a moment voters do not like that I will change abit let us inflate our tyres boy no wonder so many germans turned up to hear this great man. They still would not know what he stands for and nor do most americans. I suppose when the democrats said in ads a few years ago that if a republican was elected black churces would be destroyed that was not fear mongering.It would be nice if the democrats would debate the issues I am sure inflating your tyres would not get you elected but it might get you on the comic shos

Posted by: Bob | August 15, 2008 8:09 AM

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