The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

It is highly ammusing to observe the masses of people who will go running online to spout off their mouths. It is even more ammusing when you realize how many people will do this before having any facts to back up their ranting.

That being said, to those of you who would bash Huckabee for acknowledging his faith and his beliefs I would ask, "Would you rather support someone who lies and is deceptive about what they believe?" (one example, Barack Obama) Or would you rather support a candidate who promises you everything but the moon knowing full well that even if elected she (Hillary Clinton) wouldn't be able to make good on half of what she's promising.

Everyone has the right to his or her own opinion, a right that our Constitution protects. But for the sake of our country, and our future as a nation, I sincerely hope that Mike Huckabee is elected in office.Those of you who ahve actually researched his policy, will understand why. And for those of you who can't get past the fact that he is an openly moral person, even if you don't agree with him atleast you will never have to wonder what he believes in or where he stands on the important issues. That is certainly more than can be said for most of the other candidates.

For the believers, Pray4MikeHuckabee.com

For everybody else, ........

For VFazio,
I read your comment about the biblethumping, ignorant, southern leaders the republicans keep electing... I am a Christian and from the South and Republican, but I am not ignorant. I am actually well educated on the issues and will make a level-headed decision about who I vote for. You also typified republicans as those who hate Muslims or are culturally backwards or afraid. I also have numerous muslim friends, as well as friends from various other religions. Your discrimination and stereotyping of southerners, those who are religious etc... is just as bad as what you accuse the "republicans" of doing. I think Mike is a very viable candidate who never forced his beliefs onto Arkansas citizens. That's the beauty of this country -- we can all believe different things, share our beliefs and discuss our convictions -- it's what keeps us open and democratic. I respect Huckabee's beliefs and I also respect the beliefs of all the other candidates. I'm not sure many people understand the respect the leaders of this nation deserve for their dedication to this country. I know Huckabee can earn it!

Some people seem to indicate that because of Huckabee's religious beliefs and because of his southern heritage that he might not be as qualified a candidate or as good a potential leader as others running in this race; As an Arkansas native, where I have lived under Huckabees leadership, I can honestly say I believe he is one of the best candidates, if not the best candidate coming out of either party. Here in our state he was a progressive leader who was not afraid of change. Arkansas went under some of the most rigourous and controversial educational reform during his governership, and we've come out the better because of his progressive attitude. Mike knows about opportunity, because he's from the state that is the "Land of Opportunity." Under his leadership Arkansas' economy picked up, and he paved the way for Democratic governor Mike Bebee to continue Arkansas' sucess story-- illustrative of Another of Huckabee's good qualities- he may be the best candidate to unite the parties in the house. He is open minded and perhaps one of the most change oriented governors Arkansas has ever had. I believe that there are many great things Huckabee has to offer this nation... He cares about this nation and I believe he has the ability to unite this nation again!

The more I read about Mike the more I like him. The Fair Tax is a bold idea, but one that the American people need to get behind! I am so tired of hearing that "it" whatever "it" may be "will never happen". Did we forget that we the people are supposed to have the power in this country? Do not underestimate the power of the "silent majority". The sleeping giant is waking up and it it full of young unhappy christians that are ready to take the power back, rasie our kids the way we see fit, and quit sending half of our income to the government. I don't care if you hate me or belittle me because I believe in the Bible. I do let it infulence my vote, and it is my right to do so.

I am not a creationist nor a fundamentalist. I did live in Arkansas for 5 years while Huckabee was governor and covered him as a photojournalist of one of the larger papers in the state. I can tell you that religion was not an issue dealing with the governor's office. He did not attempt to introduce creationism into the public schools and I saw no signs of his requiring a specific set of believes in the people he appointed to office.

I found him to be a sincere man willing to work with anybody, including the other party, to do what was best for the state. One who was open to ideas and could work with people.

That is why I'm supporting him,

p.s.: I found my way to this page with all the insulting comments about him through a link on his website.

R.J. Oriez

This is the part where Mike Huckabee wins the Iowa caucus!

What liberals fail to understand is that most of America is made up of grassroot conservatives who care about ethics and morals and doing the right thing...even, and especially, in politics which affects us all. We know that the world is only about six thousand years old and was created by our wonderful living God, Who still has His hand on our affairs. He still rules, no matter what the liberal view! Unbelief does not change this reality! TRUTH stands, regardless! God's eye is on the liberals, as well as the consevatives. And this Bible, that some are so anxious to say isn't true, contains a message that those in leadership are placed there by God. It also says the "the heathen rage." I hear a lot of raging! But, God is still in control. Go, God! And go, Huckabee! My prayers are with you.

You know this is my observation about Mike Huckabee.

The more I read and hear about him in the media and from his political opponents, the less I think people will like him.

HOWEVER... the more I research on my own, and learn the TRUTH about Mike Huckabee the more amazed and the more I grow to like and support him.

Sure the anti-Christian bigots don't like him or any other Christian who is serious about a personal faith. Sure the establishment Republicans do not like him because he represents their worst fears... a party like Abraham Lincolns Republican Party... of the People, by the People, and for the People. They do not want the party to be returned to the people. They want to keep their power base.

Well, the anti-Christian bigots simply do not understand Southern Baptist's commitment to the separation of church and state. Nor do they understand Evangelical Christianity. From an Evangelical perspective you CANNOT force Christianity on ANYONE. It is a very PERSONAL choice and decision that an INDIVIDUAL makes between them and God... period. This type of Christianity simply could NEVER be legislated.

As far as the Establishment Republicans... well... they actually do have something to worry about. The PEOPLE of the Republican Party are taking it BACK from the special interest groups.

Go Mike!! The more they attack you, the more I like you!

The more I learn the TRUTH about you, the more I support you!!

Visit MikeHuckabee.com to learn more for yourself.

Huckabee is refreshing! Thanks for reporting this story.

Mike Huckabee has my complete support. This is the first chance we have had in a very long time to have a leader who is for "the people" of America.

Mike motivates me and I am excited to see the great things he will do for us and our country.
All of the negative attack ads won't change Mike's proven leadership record.

As everyone has seen, Mike Huckabee has surged to number one in the polls. When people hear him speak, they understand why he is the right choice to be President of the United States.

God bless Mike. If "we Americans" stick together, our country will move ahead stronger than ever with Mike leading it.

I endorse Mike Huckabee.

Dan Campbell
Sgt., USMC

kevindreed and others:

Just because someone does not believe in evolution does not mean that he or she is stupid or believes that the world is 6,000 years old. I believe in natural selection and other forms of micro evolution, I just reject the idea that advanced and complex organisms evolved from fish or bacteria. Creationists have their evidence to support their ideas, and Darwinists theirs, so I think that its time to stop putting a person down for having their own religious and scientific beliefs. Also, Chasemonster, an individual is not stupid because he or she believes in the Bible! There is plenty of historical, archeological, and scientific evidence to support the Bible. Would you criticize a Muslim for being stupid because the believe in the Koran? I wouldn't because kind of criticism shows true ignorance.

This article reads as if it is more about the writer's political opinions than it is about good journalism. Oh and one more thing...GOD BLESS AMERICA, IN GOD WE TRUST, and Gesundheit! See you all at the polls!

oldschoolgirl, some food for thought...

False history gets made all day, any day,

During the earth-shattering struggles of his time, Mr. Romney repeatedly chose to remain on the sidelines while others took the lead and now he wants us to believe that he is a leader. Where was your leadership Mr. Romney when the country was going through the previous struggles that defined a nation and a generation? An example would be the exclusion of blacks from his Church, Mr. Romney would have us believe that he was against it, yet nowhere publically did he speak out against it, even though being the son of one of the most prominent Mormons in the country he had a platform to do so. But Mr. Romney chose to play it safe and go with flow supposedly secretly wanting the Church to change its doctrine of exclusion.

The other issue where Mr. Romney again showed a lack of courage was the question of the war in Vietnam. I'm sorry but I just have to ask; besides John McCain was there any Republican politician that went to defend the country they now hope to lead? So the best the Republicans can offer the country is another long list of chickenhawks, defenders of the war only because they or their ilk will never have to fight in it. What a sad state of affairs for our country. Mr. Romney not only chose to take a deferment, he again uses the disingenuous response of I really wanted to go, but. Mr. Romney if you really wanted to go there would have been nothing to stop you. Take for instances the former professional football player Pat Tillman, he really wanted to go and he went. He left all the comforts and privilege and chose to stand up for what he believed in. It eventually cost him his life, so don't disgrace the memories of all those who did choose to go and fight with that weak kneed answer.

False history gets made all day, any day,
the truth of the new is never on the news - Adrienne Rich

The Disputed Truth

I do have two other (non-political) remarks to make concerning kevindreed's remarks against religion. First, if it is true [?] that religion--especially genuine, biblical Christianity--promotes violence, then it is all the more true that non-religion is at least 10 times worse. The 20th Century stands as a testament to the murderous intent of man's heart (a point I believe kevindreed agrees with). In the 20th Century, non-religious governments slaughtered more human beings than did all religious wars of the prior 19 centuries combined. Pol Pot and Mao by themselves are responsible for the deaths of more than 55 million human beings. So, whatever one wishes to say on this score against religion, he must admit that the non-religious are worse. Second, science is not the benevolent savior kevindreed assumes it is either. Science, by design, is a work in progress and cannot offer truth. Kevindreed's assertions about the certainty of evolution and knowledge from science is little more than faith--faith in science. And before we bow down before the men in white jackets, let us remember that it was science which missed simple mathematical equations on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), wasting hundreds of millions of British pounds in an attempt to replicate the Big Bang theory. It was science which pronounced the coelacanth extinct along with the dinosaurs, until an Indonesian man and his son caught one a few months ago. More to the point, it was scientists who delivered babies up to their necks, killed them, then farmed out their body parts for "research." If we must look for a savior from the evil in the world, I would rather look to the one in the white robe whose blood can save from sins than the ones in the white lab jackets with blood-stained hands.

This is my favorite article so far on Huckabee, but I am voting for Mitt. I will gladly vote for Huckabee as VP, however. I would love to see Mitt and Huck work together!

Mike Huckabee Joins the Club

Somewhere Inside the Virtual Beltway
December 28 (Reported by holywoodog)

It was only a matter of time. The preordained finally happened today. Mike Huckabee, the former Governor of Arkansas, joined the Beltway Club, putting an end to a brief but bold experiment to straight-talk to the American people about real issues using honest words. John McCain having abandoned a similar path to the White House earlier, the Huckabee move spells the end of experiments with truth and authenticity as legitimate tender in the marketplace for political ideas and public policy choices.

Governor Huckabee chose the tragedy of the Bhutto assassination to signify his readiness to accept the Beltway ways by pulling what can only be described as a Joe McCarthy. He pulled out a number from his vest pocket around 600 and announced that that was the number of Pakistanis (yes, Pakistanis) crossing the US-Mexico border every month. His source, he said, was the the CIA. Later he modified that to include "other agencies" also in his listing of sources.

Knowledgeable sources have told this reporter that the data the Governor used does not come close to the fact in the matter. Pakistan nationals do not make even the list of the 25 largest national groups crossing the Mexican border illegally to the US.

The consensus among Beltway pundits has been one of approval: "Smart move," ons said, "if a long time coming."

kevindreed, thanks for putting out a clearer picture of what you (and I assume others) are saying about Huckabee's views and how they may disqualify him, or at least impair his judgment. I have much I would like to say, but I will limit the response here to 2 remarks. First, Huckabee does not hold to the young earth view. He has said so on numerous occasions in televised debates. Though many Christians hold to a young earth, there is nothing in the Bible that demands it; the Bible does not state the age of the earth. There are Christians who debate the arguments for and against young earth & old earth. Christianity is very much compatible with science, which brings me to the second point I'd like to make. No one wants America to be Christian in the sense that anyone be demanded to attend worship, etc. Yet, there must be a steady view of reality, of who we are as humans, of what the world is, of what is good and what is not. This steady view has historically been provided by the Judeo-Christian view of God, and it allows much free speech and debate. Other religions were rejected by the founders (who were not all Christians) because they did not offer the most freedom for human beings. The Christian view that all men are created equal and endowed by the creator with certain inalienable rights has guided our country on purpose and by design for 200+ years. To hear it disparaged so naively is shocking. One doesn't debate matters of theology in a muslim country. We ought to be a bit more careful and not bite off the hand that has fed us these last two centuries.

Although Huckabee delivered a "different" message, his message is refreshingly different. We need a man in the White House who is not bought and sold by lobbyists and corporations for profit.
This man is authentic, just, and not afraid to speak his mind.
How refreshing. How different!

jhawk10: You, my friend, are the one who seems to be misinformed about Mormonism. Try doing some research about Mormons and their treatment of blacks throughout their church history.

And did I read that you believe religious conservatives are intolerant of blacks, Latinos, and poor people? That's funny, since lower/middle class conservatives gave more money last year percentage wise to charities that help poor people than liberal democrats who talk a big talk but don't put their money where their mouth is. Please see http://www.newsbusters.org/node/9323
for more detailed information about conservatives and giving.

I also had to laugh at your post jhawk, since many of my conservative Christian friends are minorities- do they hate themselves or something? Please, explain more of your brilliant ideas oh Wise One, and here's a shovel.

doccochran - The idea is not that people that are Christian are stupid. The idea, from my view anyway, is that, in the face of evidence that mounts by the hour, at some point I have to wonder when One Faith - out of thousands (all of which have no evidence to back them up or repeatable experiences without guidance from authority) - must yeild to what all humans can see on a daily basis. And, regardless of how many languages a person can speak or how much they know about various topics, if they still think the Earth is 6,000 years old based on the content of one book written by various men, then that person's ability to reason and process factual evidence must be questioned. Rather than stupidity, that is seeing what one wants to see, which we're all guilty of at one time or another. I don't consider myself smarter, but I do expect some sort of challenge based on observable facts. If Huckabee believes the Earth is 6,000 yrs old, it's because of the writing in the Bible, and no other reason, and it's simply becoming a belief that has no basis in reality. I respect most religious people, but I think the time has come for a respectful, insightful, and open discussion about ALL religions and how they relate to actions taken in our world. There are 2,000 religions. They all ain't right. Most likely, they are all wrong. Science, music, art, medicine, and a host of other disciplines at least provide us stepping stones on which humans can advance and avoid self-destruction. Praying doesn't cut it.

Unfortunately for Mr. Romney many of the religious right voters he courted, despite their protestations to the contrary, are bigots. They don't understand Mormonism and you didn't explain it to them when you had a chance, now you are seeing the true nature of your conservative brethren. They are not going to vote for you. The thing about America is that the polls are inaccurate. The reason they are inaccurate is because very few people will actually say what they truly believe, usually they say what they think they are suppose to say. It is only when they are alone or around like minded individuals do they feel comfortable enough to tell the truth.

The truth is simply this; many of your religious conservative friends do not believe that Mormons are Christians. When Mr. Huckabee "innocently" asked about Jesus and the devil being brothers he knew exactly what he was doing and his rise bears that out. The fiscal conservatives don't care what religion you are because their religion is money, but those down home true believers are the ones who are flocking to Huckabee by the boat loads. It is a dangerous game when you mix politics and religion, especially if your religion isn't their religion.

The sad part about it all is that no one wants to deal with this issue truthfully, because if they do then they will expose the religious right for what they really are. Why do you think Pat Robertson endorsed an adulterer and pro-choice liberal from New York? You, Mr. Romney are not their kind of people. These people sad to say are intolerant of not only blacks, Latinos, and poor people; they are also intolerant of those who do not share their exact beliefs. The Evangelical movement in America has done more to promote disunity of the Church than any other movement in the history of the Church. Because of their narrowly defined views and belief that they possess the only "real truth" from God, they have alienated more than they have united.

The Disputed Truth

I am partly appalled but mostly entertained at the paranoia which has gripped so many of you who consider yourselves to be both educated and superior simply by virtue of your lack of faith. I have two degrees from a public university and am working on my second degree from a Christian seminary, and I can assure you that the seminary degrees have proven much more challenging. Just to enter my present program, I had to demonstrate proficiency in 5 languages for research purposes. The fact that you so easily dismiss Mike Huckabee simply because he is a Christian says much more about your narrow-minded ignorance than it does about his. Where's the tolerance here? Why not join the Huckaboom, and we can all get along, holding hands and singing Kumbaya.

Hate is the answer for those that are frightened by what they don't know.

If you folks KNEW Huckabee, you wouldn't be so angry. If you have the patience to sit through JUST TWO video's, you'd know more than you do now. Try it (unless you're scared you might learn something).

(it's NOT about ESTABLISHING a religion)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gP0g4T-Egqk

(and here's one on EVERY major issue)
http://my.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home

I was just reading through the comments, and I discovered that many of you must live on this forum! I just wanted to touch on a couple of points:

To Elbeau: Wow! Congrats on making it your life's mission to take down Huckabee! I'm not African American, but I would have to guess that your comments comparing Mormons to Rosa Parks would be horribly offensive. Huckabee is not a bigot, and has not made it his goal to destroy the Mormon faith, so you can leave the forum and return to your life now. He made one comment about Mormonism that offended some Mormons. I say some because there were many Mormons on another forum I visited that said that Huckabee's comments about Satan and Jesus being brothers (or at least spirit brothers) were correct and even though Huckabee may have not said it nicely, it was indeed taught in the LDS faith. Regardless of Huckabee's accuracy in this matter, he recognized that his statement offended some, and so he personally apologized to Romney and Romney accepted his apology. Rosa Parks? You really should go back to your elementary school history book and try that again.

To address the Creationism questions, I have to start by saying that the vast majority of this country believes that "God" was involved in creation in one way or another. Huckabee has clearly stated that he believes that God played a part in creation. The shock! The horror! It seems you all want to push the subject of what type of creationism he believes in, and I really don't know or care. I personally believe in a young earth creation, and I am not alone. Many of the fathers of modern day science believed in creation, most in a young earth creation. These include but are not limited to: Francis Bacon, Galilei, Kepler, Blaise Pascal, Isaac Newton, John Dalton, Matthew Maury, James Joule (thermodynamics), Louis Pasteur, William Thompson, Lord Kelvin, Joseph Lister, James Clerk Maxwell, etc. etc. If you are truly "open minded" I would encourage you all to visit the following website to learn more about the belief of creationism throughout history in the scientific community, as well as the long list of present day scientists and doctors who have publicly professed to their belief of a biblical creation.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/

Everyone should go to Mike Huckabee''s web home page and watch the brillant speech he gave in Washington about terrorism.

It was magnificant, he went into great depths as to why the terrorist are fighting us. Mike Huckabee is an extremelly intelligent man. He really understands the root cause of the issue. He wants to drill down and resolve the root cause, not just put out a fire.

Fred doesnt havent a clue what he is talking about, really! He rambles on in speeches leaving the viewer perpexed as to what he just said.

Fred Thompson is one of those I dont want to get in their and fix the details guy, he is the type of person who rambles on with speeches trying to confuse the listener that he knows something.

Mike Huckabee is the "roll up the sleeves" type guy. He wants to get to the root cause. He wants to "prevent it" not just "fix it" attidude.

Go watch his speech, it was totally magnificant. Mike Huckabee is extremelly intelligent.

Sounds like your average Sunday morning sermon from the evangelical pulpit, full of ridiculous stories that are supposed to mean something, moralistic. Evangelicals can't quite get past the parables. Fortunately most of the American electorate can. There are more pressing issues at hand.

The last statement in the article about no one in his party should ever underestimate him again was encouraging and chilling, depending what your feelings on Huckabee are.

Wow, the "hate mongering right",huh? Not a lot of thoughtfull debate here. Just a lot of fear over something (christianity) that most of you say you don't even believe in.
Check out this comment in one of the posts "too genuine to be taken lightly". Are you serious? Now genuine is a bad trait.

Here's an idea, open your mind, educate yourself on things that you don't actually believe in. It will at least give you an honest basis for discussion, instead of just name calling.

Florida

So much made of faith by most posters, but why not a word about the Fair Tax? The greatest transfer of power back to the people since the revolution, and you don`t want to mention the power over your own money.

elbeau - the ignorance lies in assuming that one religion--as opposed to the other 1,999 religions in this world alone--has all the answers written in a book that does not even have dinosaurs in it. You'd think would have bragged about it someplace. Like the ark only having Old World animals in it, the writers of the Bible--men--had no clue about dinosaurs or New World animals. So, was the "order" of the universe created by some outside force? Perhaps. But, we don't know. And we most certainly have no idea what kind of force that might be, should it exist at all. This is the problem with the religious view. There is nothing that a person who is not blinded by said view can do to confirm the beliefs of the religion. Thus, as disagreements mount, violence results and exchange of information shuts down, further holding the human race back. And yes, quite frankly, as wonderful as many people that believe in the Bible are, they are ignorant based on the heaps of scientific evidence that is being gathered around the globe, by the hour, exponentially. Don't take my word for it. Don't take their word for it. Go dig up a fossil on your own. Breed fruit flies in your own house, or mice, and observe evolution in the privacy of your own home. But take your "theory" a step further. Order in the universe, most certainly, according to specific rules. And it's a most violent world, isn't it? People are designed for violence, as are ants, microbes, lions, dinosaurs, and even plants (slow wrestling matches when necessary). Parasites live in nearly all living things, from humans to bacterium. Microscopically, life is a constant, murderous battle. I see a "creator," if there is one, that relishes violence, murder, stealth, and death, with not just the strongest surviving, but also the lucky. Not only is the bible at odds with itself over the "love" of god, but that whole book is additionally at odds with what any human can observe on their own--without help from "authority"--on this planet, about how life interacts. God--if s/he exists--made parasites that bore into children's brains, same as s/he made children. He made people that, through predictable and often preventable circumstances (not Satan), do things like dismember, decapitate, and rape children and women and men alike. If there is a god, that entity most certainly could care less about the human condition. More likely, as science, art, medicine, and many other studies show us, things are just as they are, without some being guiding every move, or a devil making "evil." It's an ugly world. Humans have over time invented well over 2000 religons to make themselves feel better about it, but it's time to let all that go and face reality. It's really the only hope for humans at this stage, as our technology greatly outweighs our abilities to control it. Huckabee is another nail in the coffin, and another shove down the path of ignorance, fear, violence, and backward thinking, same as other extremes like communism.

JakeD - I can guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that, based on your answer, you are most certainly not a scientist. You do not even understand the core path of science, which is "theory." Theories are made, and they are broken, by design. But all the while, information is being gathered and learned. I can guarantee you that if you douse yourself in gas and light a match, you will go up in flame. If you stick your finger in an electric current you will be shocked. If you splice DNA from one creature to another you will get predicatable results over time. Faith in made up religion offers nothing that a person can recreate on their own. I'm an agnostic. Athiests are just as overconfident as religious people. And there is nothing more beautiful in this world than seeing things larger than myself, like the universe, stars, planets, microbial life, ocean life, the dramas of humans over time, the wonder of a child or just of everyday life. It's all there for anyone willing to view it. It is the sad, empty, frightened person that needs a bunch of other people to tell them what to think, when it's all there in their head and heart for anyone--ANYONE--to see on their own, without false "guidance" from bad authority. Will humans figure this out in time to move forward? Remains to be seen. But by continuing to vote for leaders that cannot understand the simplest of concepts, we are nailing our coffin shut. If you are a scientist, sir, you are most definately a very bad one.

"i just love the way he's unapologetic about it and the non-religious way he governed AR for over 10 yrs"

LOL...that's a good one.

The "non-religious" way he pardons any criminal that can get a pastor to call the governor's office.

The "non-religious" way he acted when he was Leutenant Governor by waiting until the actual Governor had to leave the state and then holding a grand press conference where he signed a bill recognizing the importance of Christmas and Christianity to Arkansas (the actual governor at the time refused to sign, pointing out the obvious fact that Christmas is a religious topic).

The only thing "Non-religious" about his governorship was his morals. Ethics violations over and over again. Stealing, destroying public records, undermining the whole judicial system by pardoning jury verdicts at a pace unprecedented in Arkansas. I guess that's what you mean by "non-religious".

trampling on your civil rights? HA! what a wimp.

because i don't get offended and feel that so many wimps do. and feel that so many people live in la la land and don't appreciate the truth and constantly are cynics and think all politicians are lying. i'm more impressed with him everyday. he's basically sticking a christian middle finger up against the establishment and i love it. and his faith means very little to me. i just love the way he's unapologetic about it and the non-religious way he governed AR for over 10 yrs getting great results. good stuff.

This guy becomes less impressive every day...not more.

I was blogging for Huckabee quite a bit two months ago, before he decided to berate my religion over and over again. This guy is trampling on my civil rights in order to pander to your votes.

i know huckabee and i've lived in AR for 29 years. i know a lot more about the people in politics on both sides here than is needed for this short comment but suffice to say that people seem to forget that no candidate seems to please us on all fronts but this guy, after deep examination, becomes more impressive everyday. he did great things for our state and worked with the team and staff he was given not to mention the history of electing democrats to all offices. on the scale of pros and cons, including his HUGE ROA...he's really impressive.

The bottom line is Gov. Huckabee has the executive experience (one of Best Governors - Time Magazine). Is in tune with not only most Republicans, but most people in the country unlike the political and media and financial elite.

They still think its about them and their polarized power brokering. It is about America and the common man and building a better debt free America for our posterity.

The powers that be are terrified that the people like Huckabee... all I can say is that if people hear him speak then they will know for themselves where he stands.

As for relegating anyone that supports him or his positions to the uneducated.. well my wife and I would debunk that as I have several degrees including a M.Ed. We are both educators who came from the business world to make a difference in the lives of young people (law and information technology).

The diversity of people who support him is amazing. Check Huckabee out for yourself, don't rely on the political hacks and media's pundits.

What the article doesn't mention is that Pastor Huckabee punctuated a point about hiring John Bolton as his foreign policy advisor by discharging his shotgun over the reporters' heads. In the ensuing ruckus, he didn't have time to mention that he is also advised by Kofi Annan, Henry Kissinger, and Michael Gorbachev. The other thing that was not mentioned in the article is an explanation of Pastor Huckabee's comment about Pakistanis entering the US illegally. What Pastor Huckabee probably meant was that rather than coming in from Mexico, the Pakistanis could be smuggled in by cargo containers originating from the so-called geographically shared eastern border with Afghanistan. This would make sense because, as Pastor Huckabee mentioned, martial law is being enforced in Pakistan, so that everyone else must remain inside their homes which would allow terrorism suspects to slip into the containers unnoticed for journey to the US.

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what is all the fear you have of each other Huckabee is at least a breath of fresh air in his honesty and telling it like it is. no p[political flip fl oping but most important is his support of the fair tax it is time to change our tax system from a 19Th century tax to a modern 21st century system that will take the power over your lives that government has today and give it back to you this is the greatest gift any candidate could promise you quit your infighting and take advantage of this effort. this is an offer of freedom you may never get again. most politicians don't want to give up this power over you, huckabee has promised to work to change the tax code don't throw this away quit fighting over your religious problems and free yourself of taxation
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what is all the fear you have of each other Huckabee is at least a breath of fresh air in his honesty and telling it like it is. no p[political flip fl oping but most important is his support of the fair tax it is time to change our tax system from a 19Th century tax to a modern 21st century system that will take the power over your lives that government has today and give it back to you this is the greatest gift any candidate could promise you quit your infighting and take advantage of this effort. this is an offer of freedom you may never get again. most politicians don't want to give up this power over you, huckabee has promised to work to change the tax code don't throw this away quit fighting over your religious problems and free yourself of taxation
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Tonight on Chris Matthews, he and his four elitist pundits were talking about how the Iowa people need to show up in order for Huckabee to win. Then one of them gave an example of an Iowa man that said he'd love to go vote for Huckabee but he couldn't because "had to work on his farm." Of course "farm" triggered a barrage of laughter and snickers from all of these snobs, no doubt furthering their joke about Huckabee being a "hick" and their general low view of farmers and those less forunate as them. It was despicable.

I haven't seen such snoberly since grade school. But it only made my prayer stronger that the Lord help all Iowa voters actually be able to get to the polls and to avenge the good name of Mike Huckabee and the good people of the Heartland he represents so well, and not let Romney's lies and money take them in.

Huckabee's speech, especially the part about his son using the salt instead of sugar was just awesome!

EPIC !

As a conservative Republican who has been watching Fox News routinely for the past 8 years, I am quite disappointed by their recent campaign against Governor Mike Huckabee.

In the last week, they have taken every opportunity to laud and eulogize their man Romney and as they have seen that tactic fail, they are now using their "air-time" to attempt to prop up the campaign of left leaning candidate John McCain. The past few days have been a non-stop infomercial for the Senator to the point where Fox should be required to register as a PAC. They have made every possible attempt to cast aspersions on Mike Huckabee with any fabricated rumor no matter how questionable the source.

The truth is prevailing and the establishment will have egg on their face in the end. They know it - and they cannot handle it. The people are not as ignorant as the media think and as the voters bypass them and listen to Huckabee directly through alternative sources such as raw video on youtube, they can see that the specious rhetoric ABOUT Huckabee does not match the actual candidate. It is a new paradigm. As Huckabee is proving, the hallow crys from politicians like McCain and Feingold about "special interests" controlling the elections is history. It no longer takes hundreds of millions of dollars to win the Presidency. The Net has leveled the playing field as Huckabee is winning on a FRACTION of the budget. The cream is rising and anyone with leadership abilities and a strong message WILL be heard. Mike Huckabee will be America's first - Internet elected -President.

I produced this video to encourage the campaign and verbalize my opinion on what is taking place.

Here is a link to my vlog "Fox News Foments Republican Party Schism"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5_QEZfkijY

Yours truly,

MrArbitrage

A rough couple days for the Huckster... it reminds me of the final scenes of the Wizard of Oz... we are now starting to see the man behind the curtain... in the past 48 hours he has...

SAID THAT THE US NEEDED TO APOLOGIZE REGARDING BHUTTO (campaign later clarified)

WONDERED IF MARSHAL LAW WOULD CONTINUE EVEN THOUGH MARSHAL LAW ENDED TWO WEEKS AGO(campaign later clarified)

SCREWED UP SAYING PAKISTAN DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH CONTROL OF ITS EASTERN BORDERS NEAR AFGHANISTAN (but Pakistan shares it's western border with Afghanistan, not eastern)

SCREWED UP SAYING WE HAVE MORE PAKISTANI ILLEGALS COMING ACROSS OUR BORDER THAN ALL OTHER NATIONALITIES EXCEPT THOSE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE BORDER. (just wrong... plain wrong... illegals from Philippines, India, Korea, China and Vietnam were all far more numerous than those from Pakistan)

SHOT A SHOTGUN OVER THE HEADS OF REPORTERS LESS THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY...

GOT NAMED TO THE LIST OF TOP 10 MOST CURRUPT POLITICIANS OF 2007.

AND IMPLIED THAT HE HAD BOLTON ADVISING HIM ON FOREIGN POLICY WHEN IN FACT HE HAD ONLY SENT HIM BOLTON AN EMAIL...

Did I leave any out?

"DES MOINES, Iowa (AFP) � US Senator Hillary Clinton Friday called for an independent, international probe into Benazir Bhutto's murder, saying Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf's government had no credibility."

--- That is the WORST thing ANY candidate could say or do.

MISTAKE #1 - Go on National TV and tell the world what needs to take place in another country.
MISTAKE #2 - Go on National TV and tell the world that a president of another country has NO credibility.
MISTAKE #3 - Deliberately embarrass this other president nagging him about what he should be doing.

ALL THAT SHOULD BE SAID IN PRIVATE. If the US has lost credibility because we continue to FORCE our ideals on other countries, what does Hillary think she's accomplishing? WHY discredit and harm the US further for mere politics?? And HOW is she going to get anything accomplished in private with after demeaning him in front of the whole world??

Hillary is NO leader. She has NO executive experience. She has NO foreign policy credibility. She is NOTHING except for Bill.

IF she was married to Brett Favre she'd probably think that she could replace him and become quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. HOW MUCH DUMBER CAN AMERICANS GET???

btw - i'm a Huckster. Unlike Hillary and Romney who POLARIZE this country, Huckabee is a UNITER.

Negative Mitt has so viciously attacked both of the noble men, McCain and Huck, with such disdain that he has formed an alliance between their supporters. Mitt has sealed his fate and even if he wins a few states he is now persona non grata among the rest of the GOP field.

MITT-MIKE....What's not to like :-)

Here's why I'm opposed to Huckabe: his attempt to pin the blame on his activities to free a rapist -- on the Clintons, who opposed freeing him. (He raped a cousin of Bill Clinton and was found guilty by a court.) The Right Wing declared Clinton was framing the rapist -- and Huckabee repeated all their falsehoods (never botheing to check out the real facts and listen to the OTHER victism.)

OK. Huckabee made a mistake.
NOT OK -- it is dastardly to try and say the Clintons were to blame -- just dastardly.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/12/most_revealing_fibs_mike_hucka.html

"[Rapist Wayne Dumond's] parole eligibility happened in 1992 during the time when Bill Clinton was still governor [of Arkansas.] Rather than me having an issue with that, if Hillary is the nominee, [the Dumond parole] will be as much an issue for her and for her husband as it ever will be for me."
--Mike Huckabee, Hannity & Colmes Show, Fox TV, Nov. 15, 2007.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/12/most_revealing_fibs_mike_hucka.html

"Take back America for Christ" -- Huckabee, 1998

IMO, this one statement alone disqualifies Huckabee from being president.

Huckabee says he loves this country more than the GOP. But he loves Jesus more than either.

We don't need another Bible-toting creationist theocrat wannabee. This is not now -- nor has ever been -- the United States of Christ. If you love Jesus that much, go home to Little Rock & preach in a church, Huck.

JakeD: " don't make me vote for Satan herself though, please...please...please"

Jake, the only Satan is the current occupant in the White House. Satan in the Bible is male (despite Mel Gibson's creative re-interpretation of the gospels.)

Remember the biblical verse... Ye shall know them by their works?

What works?

* Who lied he had intelligence that Iraq had WMD to waste trillion(s) much on graft by contractors?

* WHo decimated the 1 million Christian community in Iraq with NO care about helping them afterwards?

* Whose policies killed nearly 4000 US soldiers, maimed tens of thousands more. Impoverished innocent Iraqis -- destroying their country (including those who supported us.)

* Who broke his oath he would work with nations to slow down the impact of pollution and global warming?

* Who precided over the largest deficits in the history of the country? With massive tax cuts to the wealthy?

* Who placed right wing administrators in federal agencies to rape the public -- environmental, SEC regulations, tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, etc. (Even Warren Buffet says so.)

Ask Arnold how he feels about Bush's EPA head derailing his efforts to control pollution in California.

When you look at ACTIONS, it is clear -- the devil is the one you know already in the WH:

(And I do respect Huckabee for calling Bush on his "arrogant bunker mentality"!!

Balz is so clueless. He swims in the same pack every four years, and admits it with his "I don't recall.." sentence in the second paragraph. Anyone with vision could have sen this Huckabee thing coming. Southern, conservative gov. who could play the bass and preach. Balz never leaves DC, unless it's a pres. election year. Clueless. A pack runner. He'll be shocked when Edwards wins Iowa.

Please provide a link to the trump speech.
Kindly email me the link also,

THanks.

Pastor Huckabee would like to make a big cake for America!

All of the Presidential candidates are trying to gain some advantage from Bhutto assassination. But what few will acknowledge or discuss either Pakistan, Iraq, or Iran have never invaded the USA and killed , raped and robbed 10,s of thousands of Americans Citizens like Mexico. Most of the Politicians in both parties think the Largest invasion in world history and the unbelievable harm & damage suffered by Citizens is a OK as long as they get either money or votes! The Harm to American Citizens or turning this Nation into another third world Spanish speaking Cesspool of Crime, Corruption, Cruelty, Poverty, and Misery does not bother the Politicians because that only applies to the masses but makes the rich, richer & more powerful!

What I like about Huckabee is that he is honest that there are serious problems with the GOP.

What I DON"T like about Huckabee is how he tried to pin the blame on HIS Decision to release a rapist, on the Clintons -- who were in truth opposed to releasing the same rapist. Haven't gotten over that one yet....

I just stopped by to see where the Huckabees are registered for wedding gifts.

When did Huckabee say the world is 6000 years old?

"We've already elected a wanna-be born-again and a hollywood actor. Can we now move on to electing a leader for the entire country?"

You forgot the rapist felon.

Huckabee is far from being an honest candidate, he is a veritable montage of exaggerations, half truths, and opportunistic rhetoric. He is in my opinion the epitomy of the sleazy pandering Elmer Gantryish style of politician this country I had hoped, had learned their lesson about. But apparently not, he has his supporters mesmerized with his folksy facade of one liners, and simplistic down home tripe. God help this country if that man becomes the next POTUS, he will make Richard Nixon look like Abraham Lincoln. You broke it Mr. Huckabee by entering the race, now don''t deny knocking everything on the shelf over by blaming special interest groups who are out to get you. Time to " buy it" as you so simplisticly and smugly put it during GOP debate.

If one line zingers are qualification for the presidency then we should hire a pro like Leno. The Huckster is disingenuous in his treatment and comments concerning mormons and mormonism.
What exactly are his policy proposals for illegal immigration and protection of our borders????

What exactly is a "HUCKABEE"? Is it related to a "HUCKAFLY"?

Simply don't understand how anyone can support Huck. I live in Tennessee and his ethics as governor certainly don't say much for his Baptist education. He's as shallow as a mud puddle.
Why a quick facile wit qualifies someone to be president defies all understanding.

Romney does evil in the sight of the Lord & will bring destruction to our country. Huckabee is a man of the Lord & will bring blessing & prosperity.
www.buildyourownpolebarn.com

"When we start defining right and wrong with our own definitions. . . the result is a disaster"

Whose definition should we use, Huckabee?

Where is this guys dark side? There is rumor of a vindictive hot tempered side of his personality, I want to see it. Until he shows something other than the warm fuzzy huck a bear I can't vote for him. For goodness sake his son hung a dog there are issues there maybe stemming from a disturbed childhood. Kum bi yah how ever the heck you spell it is what comes to mind when I read about Huckabee.

At this stage, "we" might end up liking this particular person even more, as we learn more about him -- why isn't that line in the article then?

jaked wrote: "This one line stood out: ". . . as they learn more, they may like him less than they do now." Care to substantiate the basis for that opinion at least?"

I am amazed that the one line that stood out to you was the one you chose.

The entire article centered around his sudden popularity, and what the sources might be, from my perspective.

I felt the writer did us all a service by reminding us that "we" might not like this particular person, as we learn more about him.

Isn't that true of almost everyone we meet?

Sure helps explain a lot of divorces, at least.

For now, Huckabee seems to be peaking and is loved and respected.

I'm old enough to know it won't last forever.

But, as with the author of this story, I was struck by the account of Huckabee's willingness to admit that his party must change, that we cannot be a nation of people who each define mores individually, and his ability to connect and resonate with voters.

I, for one, would not be surprised if Huckabee were our next president after a close race with Obama.

Are you the same "fwonschik" who posted this back on June 27, 2007 at 03:23 AM?

Like "Boy George" Bush*, Cheney could not find a quart of oil in a filling station, nor a drop of oil under a car. REAL oil men are honest and very hardworking people unlike these twerp/thieves.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/leaving_no_tracks/comments.html

It sure seems like there's more than 10-15% anti-Christian radicals on this thread at least -- again, don't worry, atheists, no one is going to lock you up for your lack of faith.

Praise Jeezus! (and the crucified Tom DeLay)
"Oh, I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as it got my plastic Jeezus ridin' on the dashboard of my car...I can go 100 mph, long as I got that Almighty power ridin' on the dashboard of my car...

lakeside7:

Huckabee better get some new "homers" then becuase, as I've stated several times already, my guy is Romney. BTW: I thought there was no such thing a "hell"?

Geno2:

Didn't George W. Bush allegedly "pander" to the religious right? Last time I checked, he didn't lose (twice ; )

First of all...to Jake D: everyone knows that you are a Huckabee homer that makes comments on any article that mentions Huckabee's name...you need to get a life. Now, to the real issues. This is so typical Huckabee to avoid the real issues. Mix in a little humor with some lip service to the Christian right, and that's all he is. I've been saying this for weeks...Iowans need to wake up and really look at him. No foreign policy experience, raises taxes like a Democrat, supports tax money for illegal immigrants and pardons anyone the professes to be Christian...over a 1000 over them. America, please do not elect Pastor Huckabee or America will be going to hell.

Yeah, that's right, swmuva -- because like GWB found out, it's really lonely in the Oval Office with no advisors around when you need them and a complete and utter lack of so-called "experts" over at the State Department . . .

Mike Huckabee will never get elected President nor will Mitt Romney. When candidates pander to the religious right, they turn off everybody else - so they'll lose. (Thank God for that!)

We have more than one border. The "Tortilla Curtain" is red meat for conservatives, but will do nothing to protect our border with Canada, nor our coastlines. Anyway, I'm more concerned with how many of his facts Huckabee got wrong regarding a potential international crisis that he will inherit if he's elected. It has nothing to do with his religion--it's a matter of keeping abreast of world affairs.

nick4: I'd stay away from mibrooks, he appears to be seriously unhinged. The mere mention of gays has set him off.

wow mibrooks, you're the most anti-gay person on this board and you claim to be a Democrat?? I was only off by about a century; I should have said 1853, when Democrats were the rightwingers.

nick4 - I'm a democrat and I'm anti-gay, anti-immigration, and anti-abortion. To your dismay, you're about to find out that MOST American's care more about jobs than you. Illegal immigrants cost us billions of dollars and take jobs from American's. They are the perpetuators of more than half of all crimes, and, along with other inner city gangs, are responsible for 80% of all firearm violence. The Clinton-Bush diasterous globalization schemes oversaw the loss of more than 40 million jobs from the U.S. Gays brought us the AIDS epidemic. Rather than quarrantining them, as we have done with TB patients, we allowed them to roam around free, spreading this awful disease. Why? Becasue gays are the cultural elite, the wealthy, the very same twits that they are in England and elsewhere, they very *cause* of most of societies problems. ANd abortion? Most people want it limited to where the life of the mother is at issue or in cases of rape or incest. They DO NOT want late term abortions, abortion as a means of birth control, and certainly not as some sort of holy sacriment of feminism. Go peddle you hysterical garbage somewhere else. No one with any brains is buying it today.

jimdim,

Wrong. It is not illegal but *unconstitutional* for THE GOVERNMENT to establish a state religion, as was the case in England and many of the early colonies. And the Federal Government is forbidden to 'prohibit the free exercise thereof'. (Ammendment 1)

There is NOTHING illegal for a candidate for the presidency of the United States of America to be a man or woman of faith -or- to express that faith.

As to Mr Huckabee's authenticity - well, that is certainly up for grabs - just as with any other candidate. Personally, I'd really like to see some good, old-fashioned debates where there are no moderators (referees? :) ) I think that each and every candidate should be asked REALLY tough relevant questions. I think Mrs. Clinton would absolutely fall to pieces and not more than a few of the Republicans as well.

I want THE BEST candidate who can lead in a very dangerous world.

swmuva:

What part of shutting down the border leads you to think that terrorists will still overrum our country?

JakeD,

No thanks. I have the definition of a cult. Protestant Fundamentalism fits the description quite well. Pentacostal speaking-in-tongues and snake-handling immediately come to mind.

Go read today's article on nytimes.com about Huckabee's complete ignorance and confusion regarding the crisis in Pakistan (something Balz seems to have missed,) and you'll see what a disaster he would be dealing with foreign policy. I don't care how well Huckabee quotes the Bible, if our country is overrun by terrorists, the Bible is going to be banned and Huckabee will lose his sole reason for being President.

See you later, elbeau : )

hisroc:

No, the KJV is a translation, not "adding to the Bible" -- I am well aware that William Tyndale was strangled and his body burned at the stake by the Roman Catholic authorities for his alleged "heresy" in such a translation though.

hisroc: done deal 12 centuries before ML? you need to do a little more historical reading. I'd love to get into it, but I really do have to go. Perhaps we'll cross paths another time.

Like all spend-spend-spend Republicans, Huckabee is still anti-gay, anti-abortion and anti-immigration. Isn't it about time for someone who is positive and pro-American?

HERE LIES MIKE HUCKABEE: BORN IN IOWA, DIED IN IOWA

JakeD: "Wait a second, elbeau! Huckabee says exactly what I've been telling you is the case all along, and you just dismiss it without even a second thought?"

LOL...yeah...I do. Oh please...after the campaign he's run?

"Religion shouldn't be a plus or minus" vs "Christian Leader".

How could that be confusing?

Oh, and no, they've strictly forbidden VCR's in my compound, they only allow TIVO's.

Anyways, I've got to take off...thanks for all the good debates today.

hisroc:

When I get a chance, I will review all 95 for you, but in the meantime, the general doctrines of the Reformation can be summarized as a) the rejection of papal authority and extra-canon Roman Catholic doctrines, b) the priesthood of all believers, c) the primacy of the Bible as the ONLY source of revealed truth, and d) the belief in justification by faith alone. Do you also need the definition of "cult"?

Just a couple reminders for the Hucky suckers.

1. Authentic? You'll never know. He was a radio host. He was and is show biz. He has learned how to create a persona that appeals to his audience.

2. No establishment of religion. It's illegal.

JakeD,

BTW, does not the King James Version constitute "adding to the Bible?"

Spectator2 - Nope. Actually a Democrat. Since I, and many other Democrats, discovered that Hillary Clinton is their candidate and they spend so much of their time maligning mainstream candidates like Obama, Edwards, Biden, Dodd, we decided they are the enemy. Gays can go back to their closets and feminists can go back to using coat hangers for abortions if they inflict Clinton on us...oh, I forgot, since Clinton and the more than 30 million jobs that have been outsourced, those coat hangers are made in China...and out of plastic. Probably toxic, too. You people just declared war on every working man and woman in the country and don't understand it yet. When we desert the Democratic Party en mass, when Roe is history, when "gay" becomes a universal term of derision, currently only used by high school students, maybe you will. Look at what happened when the illegals came out and protested in Los Angeles. The backlash is for mass deportation. THAT is your future. Take ytour cackling old hag of a candidate and go play somewhere else.

P.S. jaunalmanza62 -- see Matthew 28:16-20; Luke 24:44-49; Acts 1:4-8; and John 20:19-23.

including = include

JakeD wrote:

No, hisroc, I call Roman Catholicism a cult because the Pope is adding to the Bible (just like the Mormons do) which caused the entire Protestant split.

Posted by: JakeD | December 28, 2007 05:09 PM

Wow! You fundies are really as uneducated as your rejection of science implies. Tell us again, JakeD, which of Martin Luther's 95 Theses rail against the Pope "adding to the Bible?" Lots of rants contained therein concerning graces and contrition, but the Christian Bible was pretty much a done deal about 12 centuries before Luther. Now, the Book of Mormon is another story...

This Bee is right, the Republican party is a nest of hypocrites, devoid of heart, soul and reason. All they want is money and power

Well, jaunalmanza62, the Great Commission does indeed including making disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

reagan did no more or less to end the cold war than any of his predecessors. A good case can be made that his initial belligerence actually gave kremlin hard liners a new lease on life - albiet a temporary one. KGB actually created a unit to determine when, not if but when, reagan was going to start the war. He simply followed the Truman Doctrine in a bellicose manner, which was the baseline for US cold war policy from 1946 through 1991 when the cold war ended. Not coincidentally nearly three years AFTER reagan was gone. Many many factors went into the soviet union collapsing, but one of those factors was not reagan saying "tear down that wall...." Every American president from 1961-then had said essentially the smae thing. The entire "reagan ended the cold war" narrative is an invention of conservative politicians and pundits to justify their own belligerent forign policy schemes and to somhow lend credence to their anti-American social policies. It is not supportable by any reasonable examination of the historical record.

As for this euphemistcally named "fair tax" - that is accurate as calling bush environmental plans "Healthy Forests" and "Clear Skys." The "fair tax" is only "fair" if you are rich. Otherwise it is a rip off in every way.It is a flat tax scheme intended to starve the federal government of revenue and therefore force an end to wildly successfull and popular social programs.

How come nobody stopped the Reagan's fascists Daddy? Becuase our flag and cross is better than Hitler's sweety. And it's our job to enslave and christinize the world. Especially those pesky Islamists who rebuff of puppets and scoff at our taking their resources. God's Own Party!! Socialism is for the people, sweety. God wants us to control everything.

elbeau:

You don't have one of them VCRs in the cult compound?

Wait a second, elbeau! Huckabee says exactly what I've been telling you is the case all along, and you just dismiss it without even a second thought? Someone complained above about "ignoring facts" -- don't you think it's even possible that Huckabee means exactly what he says?

Very interesting comments on this board. I've read them closely. We seem to have one real rightwinger on here, someone named mibrooks27. His comments about gays seem straight out of 1953. Must be a big Huckabee supporter.

Sunday morning's out. I have to bring all my wives to my weekly cult meetings that morning...but I'll catch it later that day. Thanks.

God willing, annrutherford, I will be here.

LOL...Here's a quote from Huck today "I don't think a person's faith ought to be a plus or minus. I would not want to think that people vote for me only because I'm a Christian."

Set to air today on Bloomberg Television's "Political Capital with Al Hunt"

Wow...why would anybody think otherwise Huck?

Wow, not only is JakeD fanatical, but he's using an awful lot of time to parade around this page. I can only hope he's still all over the place after this is all said and done. I doubt that he will be, considering who will have won. Nonetheless, the desire to see pie on the face of extremism holds strong.

Either huckabee is just trying to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is less stable than even george dubya, or conservatives really are all that crazy. His logic connecting a pat buchannan-esque fence on the Mexico border and the assassination of bhutto is a tortured as the presdient's case for invading Iraq, and then staying there. huckabee has the same problem that all the republicon candidates suffer from-they are conservatives in a country that has experienced first hand the dibilitating effects of conservatism. They have to play to their fellow conservatives in the party - but those folks have been proved beyond any reasonable doubt to be dangerously unhinged. Most of America remembered that from the 1930s through the 1980s - but then began falling for the "you can have ice cream and cake every day" rhetoric of the conservative movment, a movment whose cynicism and kust for power knows no end. huckabee is a sideshow freak - no more or less so than any of the other's in the grand obstructionist party field of candidates.

Sunday mornings, NBC, but it's also re-broadcast throughout the day on cable.

When does Meet the Press air?

LevRaphael:

As someone noted above, when Ronald Reagan became President of the United States, he did not bring with him a long list of foreign policy accomplishments either, but he ended the Cold War nonetheless -- give me someone of character like Huckabee (or Romney) any day over "experience" and no character like Hillary.

But most democrats are phony. I might give Obama a pass on this one, but by and large they are entirely phony. Look at what Billy is. What does is mean again?

mibrooks27:

Why the personal attack against kxrc?!

Genuine? You mean because he can crack some jokes and make some far-fetched analogies? This is the same tripe we heard about Bush in 2000 and look where he got us. Huckabee is anything but genuine; he has a record of amazing corruption in Arkansas and he is deeply ignorant of foreign affairs. Haven't we had enough of amateurs running for president, and enough of the MSM swooning over Republicans as genuine (which always implies the Democrats are phony)?

I will be interested in the Meet the Press interview. They tore into Romney something fierce last week. It will be interesting if they do the same with Huckabee and Obama.

P.S. don't miss "Meet the Press: this weekend with Huckabee AND Obama from Iowa -- should be very interesting for us political junkies -- oops, sorry, I know I'm not supposed to use that word in the same sentence as Obama's name. Please forgive me, Oprah!

Huckabee got it all right. If he continues on this path and wins this election, the U.S will be pulled out from the rot that it's on. Politicians making grand promises usually fail because simply of one word -PRIDE.

kxrc is one of those "lifestyle" perverts who will trash anyone, any religion, any moral code, that condemns their actions as unsafe, demented, perverse, and just plain wrong.

For those who take the position that we who believe the Bible are stupid I would remind you that ALL of science rests upon the notion of the scientific method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method) , where a given set of tests, under the same conditions, will return the same results. The scientific method, in turn, rests upon the notion that there is order in the universe. Given that the universe is following the law of entropy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics) it seems reasonable to believe that this order, which is in fact devolving, was established, and that by a force 'outside' of itself. The universe is not a closed box.

In order to establish order there must be at least two components - Intelligence, purpose & self-awareness and the ability (power) to 'make it so'.

If you can't figure this out then your ignorance is not one of capability but choice. Please don't blame those Christians like Newton, et al, who established the very foundation (as believers) of what you seek to deny. It is entirely irrational to attempt to use the logic that flows from this system as a basis for attempting to destroy that very same system. Duh!

On to politics... :)

Just because Mike Huckabee is a Christian, that in no way, in and of itself, makes him the most viable candidate for President, nor does it take anything away. Those who demonstrate THEIR intolerance and bigotry towards Christians are just that - intolerant and bigots.

As far as Mitt Romney's LDS faith goes. I would say, as a Bible-thumping :) beliver who happens to be married to a member of the LDS faith that a) I disagree with many of their doctrinal positions and b) I think that the LDS culture, more than any other I have seen so far in my short 55 years of life, does more to promote patriotism than any other.

I might also add that I have seen far too much bigotry (fear & ignorance-base) from christians towards mormons as well as a lot of chip-on-the-shoulder we-are-religiously-persecuted thinking from members of the LDS faith. I wish christians would show a little more love and that mormons would ditch the victim chip on their shoulder. Neither are healthy at all.

I am not going to vote for Mike Huckabee because he is a Christian nor am I going to not vote for Mitt Romney because he is a member of the LDS faith. I fail to see the overall relevance.

Candidly, I'd prefer someone who has a solid (read Judeo-Christian-sourced) moral compass and a very strong understanding of evil in its many forms AND with a backbone. How's about some good, solid judgement, the ability to make decisions, lead, communicate and inspire.

Someone committed to defending the Constitution maybe? Nominating judges who will not make law and someone who can work with Congress (with a PhD in cat herding? :) ).

Most Rpublicans have little or none of the above while the liberals (whether they be R or D) are actively hostile to the fundamental principles that this country was built upon.

Does Mike Huckabee have all of this? Don't think so, but he has some of these qualities. What about Mitt? Nope, though he has some as well.

Read Thomas Sowell's book, 'The Vision of the Annointed' to fill in the blanks.

JakeD: Is that bait I smell?

kxrc:

Are you actually claiming that a preacher should be DIS-qualified to be President of the United States?! That kinda turns the entire "No Religious Test" clause on its head!

No, hisroc, I call Roman Catholicism a cult because the Pope is adding to the Bible (just like the Mormons do) which caused the entire Protestant split.

I NOT HEART HUCKABEE or WHERE IS WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN WHEN YOU NEED HIM

Gov Huckabee gave a speech that according to a report (in the Washington Post) was light on what made the word go around, but long on the value of the meaning of words. Implying that his meaning of words are the correct ones ("a dash of salt" being the only concrete example) he asked voters to upset the establishment and show the country that presumably, it needs a preacher for a President, the details of how he would run the country be damned, his depth of understanding of foreign countries and their workings be damned, the intricacies of how the federal bureaucracy be damned, but that we should all trust him because he KNOWS what is right saying, to quote the article, "none of us are free agents in deciding right from wrong."

It means he knows what is right and if you join with him you too will know what is right and if the whole country accepted him as president they could know what is right.

We do not need someone who can preach, but someone who can deliver reasoned logical arguments based on a combination of history and fact for a course of action. (Tony Blair comes to mind as a perfect example of this, although he was wrong about Iraq)

He asks voters to, in essence, rock the republican establishment and move it further into the fundamentalist camp. One fails to understand how much further it can get into that area.

Finally if he is to be the Bryan of our day, he needs a modern day "Cross of Gold Speech" the subject of which was how a gold standard would harm the working class is totally irrelevant today, but still rings and stirs the heart, "You shall not press down upon labor this crown of thorns. You shall not crucify mankind on a cross of gold."

Although, when you think about the history of the Gold standard in the 20th century, esp. with the involvement of JP Morgan in getting England to go back on it and the disastrous results there of, and the reason why the US abandoned the Gold standard in the late 60's. Bryan might have had a point -- albeit a hundred years too early. (Ron Paul and John Edwards take note, Bryan was a REAL populist.)

Meanwhile, if Huckabee is nominated, that will finish off the Republican Party because it will be the party of fundamentalists and mercantilists.

Ohhh LOL!

Well, everyone is playing into the MSM's Trap!

THEY support the Dems. THEY are aware the Dems are about to implode, sooo rather than point out the fact that the Socialists, are about to part with the Moderates, and get the two to fully realize their differences, they throw some comments about Religion to create a wedge in the conservatives!
And you suckers all bought into it!

Now, listen to this Catholic while I try to put an end to the childish bickering and squabling!

How old do you think the Concept of the one True God is? Goes all the way back to Abraham, at least! Hint, that is the time the Pyramids were being Built-How many years ago?

See, The Israelites were imprisoned for generations! THEY were denied their Vedic based Religion by the Egyptians. The Books of Genesis much like the Tarot of the Bohemiens, was a way to disguise their Faith's teachings so that their Masters did not catch on! The Stories were designed to open the doors for SERMONS about issues of MORALTY! Duh!

The whole World LOST the single largest accumulation of Religious Doctrine, when Alexader the Great's Library BURNED DOWN in Alexandria where all of it was stored!

The Israelites who gave the Christians the Old Testiment, SHARED the fundementals with all of the other Abrahamic Faiths!

Modern Hebrew Doctrines, Catholic Doctrines, Angelical Doctrines, Mormon Doctrines-All of them, are RECREATED Doctrines from a SHARED older source based on the ONE TRUE GOD OF ABR