The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

zbob99,

Obama will most likely win in South Carolina and Clinton will most likely win the Florida beauty contest.

Though Obama may do very well on Super Tuesday, the way many of these primaries are set up only registered Democrats can vote in the Democratic primary. This is the case in California, New York & New Jersey for example. Many of these states have a large Hispanic population and obviously a large number of women. So if the voting trends continue (Obama having an advantage among men, African Americans, independents and Republicans - Clinton having an advantage among women, Hispanics and registered Democrats) the odds are in Clinton's favor to expand her delegate lead over Obama coming out of Super Tuesday.

Following are some of the talking points of the Obama campaign and its supporters on these and many other blogs regarding Hillary Clinton along with my responses to them. Every single one of these bullet points could have, and actually HAVE, come straight from the Repuglikkkunt Playbook. These are EXACTLY the kind of things Repuglikkkunts have been saying about her for years. And it's beyond shameful that the Obama campaign, and especially its supporters, have taken a page from that playbook and used it in this election; it's DESPICABLE:

HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON ARE CLOSET RACISTS WHO DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT MINORITIES, BUT ARE JUST USING THEM TO GAIN POWER.

This almost isn't worth dignifying with a response. It has been suggested by none other than Michelle Obama in remarks she made about Bill Clinton's speech in which he said Barack Obama's claim that he has been steadfast and consistent in his level of opposition to the war in Iraq is a "Fairy Tale". She, and Obama, both knew this is exactly what Bill was saying, and rather than going after him on the issue, they spouted spurious charges that Bill Clinton was claiming Barack's entire campaign, and therefore the idea of a black man running for president itself, were a Fairy Tale. They furthermore issued a Memo listing this misrepresentation of Bill's comments as proof of a pattern of racial divisiveness being played by the Clintons. One of Obama's senior advisors, Jesse Jackson, Jr., also delved into this racial hucksterism, when he claimed after the New Hampshire Primary that Hillary's "tears" needed to be analyzed in light of the fact she hadn't cried at the plight of Hurricane Katrina victims. First, how this knuckledragger could possibly know whether she EVER cried regarding the plight of those victims is beyond me. Perhaps he has access to an illegal wiretap Bush has on the Clinton's, who knows. Regardless, his statements are clearly intended to send the message that Kanye West had about Bush; Hillary just doesn't care about Black People. Such an accusation is beyond despicable. This was echoed in Dr. Michael Eric Dyson's comments right after the NH Primary (Dyson, while not a paid staffer for the Obama campaign, is one of his senior surrogates making all the rounds of the MSM attacking Hillary), where he basically accused every Hillary Clinton voter in New Hampshire of being racist. The ONLY racists I see between the two candidates and their supporters are on the Obama side.

HILLARY IS THE STATUS QUO, NOT SOMEONE WHO WILL BRING ABOUT CHANGE.

Hillary Clinton the Status Quo? Spouting this nonsense is PRECISELY why Obama hasn't gained any traction with women. Women know FUNDAMENTALLY that this statement is absurd. They realize that ANY woman is an agent of change, a HUGE agent of change in a political world dominated by men and their testosterone-driven agendas. Add to that the fact that Hillary has been a PASSIONATE advocate for progressive political ideology, fighting AGAINST the growing corporate control of our government and FOR the interests of ordinary Americans for DECADES, and it boggles the mind that someone can actually level such a charge with a straight face. The fact Obama does it shows me he's a first-class actor. He deserves an Oscar...lol

HILLARY CLINTON IS A BOUGHT AND PAID FOR CORPORATE HACK WHO COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT THE WELFARE OF ORDINARY AMERICANS.

Hillary's a bought and paid for corporate hack? Yeah, sure...lol Can you POSSIBLY really believe that? Yes, she's taken money in donations from corporations. So what. She's ALSO proven to be a stalwart fighter against their holding more influence in our government than they should. She's fought against the lobbyists tooth and nail. Just because she's intelligent enough to realize that in our current political system she needs money to run a campaign, and will accept LEGAL donations from any corporation as long as they don't expect any quid pro quo doesn't mean she's a corporate hack. It just means she's a very intelligent woman who knows how to win. And this is not to say she's going to try and destroy corporations if she's elected either. She understands they are a part of our nation. She just also understands that they have to bear their fair share of the burdens of our nation, and she will work with them to find a way for them to do so that's agreeable to all without compromising the principles of FIRST PROTECTING AMERICA. To me, the only people who make such claims about Hillary are either just those who hate her guts, or ignorant morons.

HILLARY IS TOO DIVISIVE, AND THEREFORE LESS ELECTABLE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THAN OBAMA, OR IN FACT UNELECTABLE.

Hillary Clinton, while being PORTRAYED as divisive by the Right-Wing controlled media, who almost to a head HATE Hillary Clinton's guts, is anything but. Her 7 years in the Senate have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. She has garnered support from a large portion of upstate New York that is a bastion of the Right-Wing. She's done this by doing what she has done best throughout her life, working for EVERYONE. She may be a Democratic Senator from New York, but as the people in upstate New York realized soon after she was elected, she cares about ALL New Yorkers. This is why she won her second term in the Senate with such huge support statewide.

IF HILLARY IS ELECTED, THE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICANS, AS THEY DID IN THE 90'S WITH HER HUSBAND BILL, WILL BLOCK NEARLY EVERY EFFORT HILLARY MAKES AT PROGRESS.

If Hillary's elected the Right-Wing's going to attack her like they did Bill and tie her hands? Exactly how are they going to do this? They've attacked the Clinton's for decades and failed MISERABLY to gain any traction with their smears. Despite all their vile, hateful efforts, the Clintons, and especially Hillary, were found innocent in the White Water investigation of ANY WRONG-DOING. Despite their level best, their pathetic efforts to impeach President Clinton got them nothing but egg on their face and Bill a 65% approval rating upon leaving office, the highest for a president leaving office since WWII. Bill, since his infidelities of those years, has been a model husband, so I can't see where the sex scandals will come from. Everything about their past has been investigated to death, so that'll gain no traction whatsoever. Are you morons really suggesting Hillary's going to have a tryst with an intern? Face reality, if Hillary's elected, especially with a Democrat congress that should be even stronger (5-7 more Democratic Senators, and possibly 20+ more in the House of Representatives), how in the heck do you see the Repuglikkunts stopping her from getting her policy agenda passed?...lol

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she is going to bring our troops home as soon as possible in an orderly and effective and safe manner, and END THE WAR IN IRAQ.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she is going to return our nation to a course of fiscal responsibility that will, by the end of her two terms, have us well on the way to being out of debt. She will turn record deficits into record surpluses, and guarantee the financial stability of our nation for the next generation. She will create millions upon millions of new jobs, strengthening our economy and thereby our security, by demanding we seek out innovative ways to maintain jobs here in America through new technologies.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she WILL secure our borders while not ingratiating herself to hateful, bigoted scum bent on painting undocumented migrant workers as EVIL, ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS. She will develop and implement a comprehensive immigration reform policy that will make us both safer and stronger, while giving those workers a REAL opportunity at the American dream, allowing them to come out from the shadows of our society where they've been abused by greedy corporations and others who want their labor, but see them as nothing more than animals.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she is going to go a long way to repairing our damaged image in the world, is going to work with leaders worldwide to garner far greater support in changing this world for the better than anyone before her, including her husband, and will make this nation safer. This will be done by getting other nations, especially those needed, to address the GREATEST THREAT TO OUR NATION AND THE WORLD, GLOBAL WARMING.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, we will finally see energy policies that reflect sound science and logical thinking. We will see the greening of our nation, which will be a benefit on so many levels it boggles the mind. Our security will be far greater as we reduce our dependence on foreign, especially Middle Eastern oil, and our environment will be protected.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, we will FINALLY have Comprehensive Universal Healthcare (including medical, dental, and mental health) for every American. This, in and of itself, along with my belief she will find ways to reduce our healthcare costs in this nation so that this doesn't become an unfounded entitlement in the future, will assure America a prominence in the world it hasn't had in the last 50 years.

The simple fact is, if Hillary Clinton is elected, she will be, in my opinion, and I think the history books will agree with me in fifty years or so, THE GREATEST PRESIDENT THIS NATION HAS EVER SEEN.

Now, Obama can jump on this bandwagon, and hope it carries him to inauguration as president in January of 2017, or he and his supporters can continue to spout this nonsense, especially the accusations that Bill and Hillary are racists, and they'll watch themselves go down in the toilet bowl of political oblivion. It's up to them.

Personally, no matter what Obama does at this point, I will NEVER vote for the man. To me, he isn't fit to be president. Perhaps he'll prove me wrong on that, but I doubt it.

To zbob,

Keep on spouting those Repuglikkkunt talking points of yours...lol

It amazes me how most Obama supporters sound more and more and more like craven, despicable, lying, lowlife Right-Wing Repuglikkkunt scum every time Hillary wins...lol

and in exactly how many elections in the last 30 years have "young voters" actually shown up and made a difference on election day? don't be fooled.

With a big win in SC on Saturday, Obama will have the BigMO back and many super Tuesday states will be in play. The results from todays caucus in NV must be troubling for Hilary's campaign -- blacks, indepents, and the youth all abandoned her. She only won due to huge Hispanic vote who apparently only voted for her due to name recognition. That is not a good long term winning strategy. The Democrated leadership must be getting very concerned if she becomes the nominee. She has no crossover appeal and many Democrats are sick of her as well. I think she is poison to the Democratic party. Democrats will lose if she is the nominee.

The Clintons are frauds - they are the flip side of the same coin as the Republicans, both mere tools of Big Money Interests. They will "change" things only enough to appear different from Republicans, and fool our, for the most part, retarded electorate. Take a lesson from Watergate, retarded electorate, and FOLLOW THE MONEY. A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for our lousy, greed-driven, extinction-bound status quo.

Here's are the details on Obama's campaign that they won more delegates:

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On a conference call with reporters just now, Obama top adviser David Plouffe made a surprising claim: He said Barack Obama actually won more federal nominating delegates out of the caucus, despite their six-point loss to Hillary. The Obama camp's final count: Obama 13 delegates, Hillary 12. That flips around the totals that were reported, which were Hillary 13, and Obama 12.

The Obama camp's argument: The state Democratic Party set up rules for apportioning the federal delegates across the Congressional districts, and then further sub-divided the Second District into three portions. Hillary's support was concentrated in Clark County (the Las Vegas area), while Obama ran ahead of her in the rest of the state -- meaning that he was able to prevail among the delegates given over to the rural areas.

Breaking:

Due to some strange twist in the way delagates are awarded Obama has won in NV total delagate count 13 to 12. I am sure the Clintons will claim foul play and Bill will get all po'd and red faced but the reality is Barack won. Wow!

The Clintons have played such a dirty game that even if they win the primary it will be all for north because they're going to loose the general. OBAMA 08!

THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...

THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...

THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...

THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...

THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!

HILLARY SUPPORTED GOLDWATER WHO VOTED NO TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.

CIVIL RIGHTS ARE AS IMPORTANT FOR BLACKS AS THEY ARE FOR HISPANICS AND ANY OTHER MINORITY.

Senator Clinton's compassion, empathy and devotion to America and America's citizens, is being recognized.

Our country, and our world, needs Hillary.

Iowa, NH and Nevada reveal a clear pattern:

(1) Segments of the electorate that would vote for Obama or HRC in the general election are going for HRC.

(2) Segments of the electorate that generally favor Republicans in the general election and that are unlikely to tilt strongly to HRC, are going for Obama.

If these three states are telling Democrats anything, it is that Obama is more likely to win in November than Hillary. Obama's suipport among the young suggest that he is almost more likely to effectuate a real change in our politics, comparable to a Kennedy or a Reagan, than will HRC.

this is really wonderful, Hillary is the one!

Congrats to Sen. Clinton! The country needs
a 'doer' with a plan, not a 'poet'!

"Keep on message Hillary, it's getting through loud and clear!"

well said. Congratulations Hillary!

rd

Sen. Clinton's message is getting through to the voters. Poetic prose is not what the country needs, experience and action is what will prevail in the 2008 presidential race. Keep on message Hillary, it's getting through loud and clear!

Please note the reporter/printers misprint in the last sentence of the article on Obama's loss in Nevada.
"Obama held an advantage among Black voters and those who valued the need for CHANCE....... instead of "change".
Freudian slip possibly???

GO Hillary!

Obama's anti working class rhetoric bit him in the butt