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Barack Obama acknowledges the crowd at Tulane University Fogelman Arena February 7, 2008 in New Orleans. (Getty Images.)

By Shailagh Murray
NEW ORLEANS -- Although Sen. Barack Obama had long been viewed as the favorite in all three of Tuesday's "Chesapeake" or "Potomac" primaries, campaign manager David Plouffe said the landscape has changed now that Hillary Clinton appears to be making a strong play for Virginia, tapping the outer counties of Northern Virginia and working-class white areas farther west. "They clearly see Virginia as a must-win for their campaign," Plouffe said. "We think it's going to be a very competitive race."

Obama and Clinton will both speak at the Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner in Richmond on Saturday night, the beginning of a two-day sprint through the region. Obama is expected to campaign in all three locales on Sunday and Monday, but his schedule remains in flux. The Illinois senator is busy blitzing Washington, Louisiana, Nebraska and Maine, which have contests this weekend, before he turns east.

Plouffe conceded that Virginia also is strong Obama turf, given its large African American population, ample stock of high-income voters in the Arlington and Fairfax areas, bumper crop of colleges and universities, and support of influential Democrats like Gov. Timothy Kaine and Reps. Robert C. Scott and Rick Boucher. Boucher is campaigning for Obama in his southwestern district, and who has predicted Obama will beat Clinton in that mostly white corner of the state.

"We're both going to get a lot of the vote," Plouffe predicted. "They think they've got a lot of strengths in certain parts of the state. ... We're just hoping to end up on the high side of delegates by the end of Tuesday night."

Posted at 1:19 PM ET on Feb 7, 2008
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Hillary and her hacks are just pushing more of the same. War backers will not will the party's nomination!! Memo to Hillary: You are not entitled to the White House. She needs to show some grace and see the handwriting on the wall before the party is damaged.

Posted by: gmundenat | February 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

To the individual who wrote that Clinton has a better chance of beating McCain than Obama...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html

In hypothetical match-ups between McCain vs Obama and McCain vs Hillary, Obama wins, Hillary loses. Even in California, which Hillary won in the primary, Hillary and McCain are in dead heat, while Obama beats McCain by 7 points. Interesting.

Posted by: ColleenH1983 | February 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

To: SeedofChange;

YOU ARE PLUMB CRAZY!

Posted by: aaronr | February 10, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I thought this needed to be said because it is further proof of how substantative Obama is compared to the fraud Hillary Clinton. I am tired of uninformed voters and HRC campaign posers trying to distort the facts? Please read the following information gathered from the Library of Congress. Feel free to check these records for yourself; better still, read a little more, and try and stay current before posting assinine comments:

Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience:
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you: 1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program. 13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda. 14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death. 15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11. 17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries. 19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care. 20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.

During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more. In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. . . . My last point: Obama needs name recognition, he needs to be among the people, so people feel like they have access to him. HRC's debate challenge is more about the fact that her campaign is running low on money and she gets free air-time without spending anything. Would you give up the chance to see 20,000 voters up close and personal to be on a televised debate? No way! Obama, stick to your guns. Debate on your terms, not Hillary's! Go Obama 2008!

Posted by: qlinderman10 | February 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I agree with happyroad2destiny's comment above this one. It really IS a sad day when complex issues of concern to everyone in this country are reduced to formulaic jingoisms that attack race and gender, not to mention repeating lies that are just incredibly false and defaming. All of those comment types are represented here.

To those who threaten to vote for McCain if Hillary isn't the nominee, I say "fine", and also would you mind keeping the names of the future dead, maimed and homeless soldiers in your prayer book for them?

To those who threaten to vote for McCain if Obama isn't the nominee, I say "fine", and also would you mind forking up your job and savings to pay for the war in Iraq AND Iran that will ensue?

I have a preference for a candidate in the primaries, but above everything else, I have a preference for the end of eight years of Republican tyranny, and I will absolutely NOT vote for any candidate other than the Democratic candidate in this election. If it's Hillary, I hope enough pressure can be brought to bear on her to end the folly in Iraq and stay away from Iran. But one way or the other, I will do whatever I can with my writing, my money and my time to see to it that we do not elect another Republican in November, and further to see that another election is not stolen like the last two have been.

Posted by: DrumsNWhistles | February 10, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

I agree with happyroad2destiny's comment above this one. It really IS a sad day when complex issues of concern to everyone in this country are reduced to formulaic jingoisms that attack race and gender, not to mention repeating lies that are just incredibly false and defaming. All of those comment types are represented here.

To those who threaten to vote for McCain if Hillary isn't the nominee, I say "fine", and also would you mind keeping the names of the future dead, maimed and homeless soldiers in your prayer book for them?

To those who threaten to vote for McCain if Obama isn't the nominee, I say "fine", and also would you mind forking up your job and savings to pay for the war in Iraq AND Iran that will ensue?

I have a preference for a candidate in the primaries, but above everything else, I have a preference for the end of eight years of Republican tyranny, and I will absolutely NOT vote for any candidate other than the Democratic candidate in this election. If it's Hillary, I hope enough pressure can be brought to bear on her to end the folly in Iraq and stay away from Iran. But one way or the other, I will do whatever I can with my writing, my money and my time to see to it that we do not elect another Republican in November, and further to see that another election is not stolen like the last two have been.

Posted by: DrumsNWhistles | February 10, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

it's a sad day in America when we as American's go for the jugular and character assassinate each other's party, race, sex or religious beliefs. Dem or Rep - we need to get back to basics and remember we are first and foremost AMERICAN'S and see if we can practice bipartisanship and unity. We look to our leaders to make us bipartisan, but yet we don't practice ourselves.

Try "let it begin with me" and don't wait until there is a Dem or a Rep in the White House before we start behaving as one nation. Let's practice being American's, get some backbone for once and start behaving like adults. We can't expect one man or woman to change our attitudes. We must do our part first. Otherwise it won't matter who gets into the White House, because you can't lead mules to drink the water once they get there if they are stubborn and unwilling to participate in getting along and playing nice across party lines. The day we start remembering we are American's and stop the divisions is the day this country will once again turn itself around. Stop thinking one person will make a difference - stop being complacent and lazy and expecting others to do what you yourself need to do first - behave, play nice and get your own house in order first - stop excessive spending, take care of your families, reach out to help those around you and stop complaining about the state of the nation that we all got ourselves into by being irresponsible and blaming others for our own errors in judgement. It's time to grow up America - to get along and participate by voting not only for one person to fix it all, but to vote on the issues at hand and be involved in your own communities first. If everyone cleans up their own back yard first, the whole country will be alot better off, than if we sit in our filth and denial and expect someone else to clean up after us.

Posted by: happyroad2destiny | February 9, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

If the fact that blacks vote for Obama is a manifestation of racism, can we conclude that the fact that women of a certain age vote more for Hillary a manifestation of sexism? Can we conclude that an educated person voting for an educated person is commiting 'social classism'. Can we conclude that people using their own Identity as a gradating tool when they vote are exercising their own judgement based on their values!? Can we accuse people of having a positive perception of the groups they identify themselves to? Can we accuse people of not having our identity?

Posted by: hsibomana | February 9, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

HOPE is FREEDOM from FEAR.

Posted by: merrilyiroll | February 9, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Beginning as a Clinton partisan, the more I listen to Obama the more I prefer him. Hillary just doesn't reach me like Obama does. I particularly like the sounds of one who is critical of Iraq and the Free Trade job losses to foreign countries plus the favoritism shown to companies that in turn, move manufacturing plants away from American labor. Principle counts for more to me than political maneuvering. Hillary's Iraq vote, compared to Obama's, is incriminating for her. Obama for President; Clinton for Vice President.

Posted by: naahbob | February 9, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

This country is ours. It's time to take it back.

GO OBAMA!!!!!!

Posted by: mrhamham | February 9, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

if oboma wins consider another democrat voting republican

Posted by: ernestto25 | February 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Georgiapeac21556,

Obama has been to Iraq. I met him in Israel in January 2006 when he stopped there on his way back from a trip to Iraq. Please get your facts straight!

Posted by: travel590 | February 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Experience...

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.
During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all since enter the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record.

Posted by: starbuck1 | February 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

why is it not called racist when whites support or endorse a white candidate yet it is called racist or 'played the race card' when blacks support a black candidate????? ewwwww---yet another double standard?

Posted by: trhquinton | February 9, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

why is it not called racist when whites support or endorse a white candidate yet it is called racist or 'played the race card' when blacks support a black candidate????? ewwwww---yet another double standard?

Posted by: trhquinton | February 9, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

dreamer, Are you saying that because Obama is half African American you will only vote for a whole white American?
I think you need change.

Posted by: scoates8 | February 9, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

[Note: I apologize if this is a repost (browser crashed during post operation.]

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thomasmwall @ 06:07 PM:

I commend your remarks. I just have one little disagreement with you: I perceive the situation regarding supporters' behavior as being the *exact opposite* of what you describe!

There have been studies that showed how political contests essentially 'shut down' areas in the brain that relate to analytical thinking (I'm sorry, I don't remember the researchers/institutions involved). Basically, partisans were shown pairs of contradictory statements, some made by their candidate's opponent, others by their own candidate. Respondents were found to react critically, calling the opponent a hypocrite, for example, after reading their statements. In contrast, after reading a pair of incongruous statements attributed to their own candidate, the test subjects attempted to explain away the contradictions, bending over backwards to rationalize and defend their champion's words.

As an Obama supporter, I have been shocked and upset by comments made by some Hillary supporters. Some are no doubt written by Republicans, but many are not. I have also been dismayed and angered by some Obama supporters/ Republicans(?) remarks, too. I think the rhetoric on both sides has gotten overheated and often despicably nasty. I confess to joining in the unhelpful rhetoric. I am only human, but I must strive to do better.

I don't know what the solution is, other than to continue to call people out on it -- politely -- when it happens, or to just stop reading the comments at some venues (Huffington Post, I'm looking at you!). I hate to do the latter, because I love the dialog, at least when it's constructive. The greater the dialog, the greater the Democracy.

One thing I think is the most important of all, is to try with all one's heart not to confuse the supporters' nastiness with their candidate's views. I have to keep reminding myself that Hillary Clinton is not a racist, or anti-Muslim bigot, just because I happened to come across several racist, "HUSSEIN Obama" posts in a row; nor are the vast majority of her supporters. Likewise, I hope that you, and other Hillary voters, won't take the vicious, divisive rants of some Obama 'supporters' as proof that he is lying when he says that he wants to unite people. It's hard to filter out the ugliness, but I hope we can.

Because I sure as h3ll don't want to see a President McCain.

Posted by: psyberdawg | February 9, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

For all you truth sekers about Obama's true record, whether his supporters or hillary's please view the following.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

Posted by: rayacop | February 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain to me why it becomes a race issue when there's talk that African Americans will vote for Obama.

My God, for years and years, the African American community has voted overwhemingly for Democrats -- Clinton, Carter, Gore, Kerry -- you didn't hear anyone talking about the race issue.

But here comes a viable African American candidate, who is capable of being president, and now everyone wants to talk jibberish.

If Barack Obama was not up to the task of holding the presidency, it would be one thing. But the man is fully qualified, so what's wrong with African Americans giving their vote. But it is not just African American, it is across the board.

I don't recall African Americans flooding the gates to give Al Sharpton these record numbers of votes when he ran.

Please, people stop this ugliness. Many of the young people in this country are trying to move beyond these draconian thoughts.

The media is no help either. It contributes to this divisiveness.

Posted by: askpeabody | February 8, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I just love this debate and this process, and honestly believe that this discussion has been and will continue to be good for the Democratic party and for the nation as a whole... it seems to me that too often, this whole process is rushed and we end up dissatisfied with all of the candidates.
At least this time we have some real choices to make that are not simply symbolic. For the first time in years, I will not be voting against the Republican candidate.

That said, although I support Hillary for the nomination, I do like Obama tremendously. I can state right now thaqt I will absolutely support and vote for either candidate if they become the nominee.

One of the things that I just don't understand, though, is why so many Obama supporters are so negative and nasty towards Clinton. I just don't get how a self-proclaimed "movement" that has set its sights on change and hope can attack Hillary with such gusto and vehemence.

These attacks and this intense negativity towards Hillary is making me doubt the Obama camp's sincerity. How can you profess to stand for hope and change while viciously attacking someone like Hillary Clinton, who has a long and distinguished record of service and patriotism?

Also troubling to me is the petulant suggestion that Obama supporters would not support Hillary in a general election. This, also, strikes me as more of the same. That is a childish and dangerous thing to say.

Obama supporters should be careful to not undermine their candidate's message of optimism and hope, and they should also be willing to act maturely and with unity in the event that Hillary wins.

To conclude with a few good old aphorisms - talk is cheap, folks, and actions speak a lot louder than words. Obama supporters should start acting the part, lest their rhetoric be revealed as empty and meaningless.

Posted by: thomasmwall | February 8, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a media darling. He's a great orator, the young people love him. He's leading them like the Pied Piper. If he gets the Democratic nomination, you will see just as many disenfranchised Hillary supporters going Republican as the Obama people have threatened to if she is nominated. He is NO JFK. John Kennedy had experience and intelligence and had been exposed to international politics at a young age. He fought in World War II. While they are smiling and cocking their mooney heads and calling Barack the next JFK, they forget when they were throwing rocks at Jack for his playboy antics in the Whitehouse and for his use of medications. Well, I love him, he was brilliant and flawed.
It's time to wake up. I think now we just better get used to John McCain.

Posted by: csherman6369 | February 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Bottom Line:

Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

"HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills."

But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress four times.

But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.

Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.

My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Young, and old. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!

Posted by: JackSmith1 | February 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

whatmeregister:

Well stated. And to add to that, barack Obama is our only chance of winning in november.

Are people not tired of Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton fatigue, l know l am. let us usher in new ideas and direction for this great country or it will seize not to be great anymore.

Let us usher in common sense, let us usher in Barack Obama!!!

Posted by: nkgilb | February 8, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Given that both Clinton and Obama have similar ideas on everything except war, we have to look at who will be able to make the difference in November. Both Clinton and McCain stand for the continuation of war in the middle east. Clinton will have a tough time to clarify her position as something different than McCains on war because they are the same. Hardcore anti-war liberals will stay home on election day if Hillary is on the ballot. Independents will go for McCain. Blacks who wanted Obama will stay home too. Leaving Clinton with very few votes in the general election.

Posted by: ChunkyMonkey1 | February 8, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Since the President of USA matters to the world, Obama is the only one who will have an effect and bring respect to your country and peace we all long for. I cannot understand what sort of intellengence level you have to critisize Obama, either you haven't read such comments by davestickler on Obama's achievements in his short time in the senate or you're too plain lazy to do your homework before you open your little heads to waste your time writing. I bet none of you could even manage a campaign as Obama has done AND all the other many achievements. I do not want to guess you are just plain jealous! Please I beg you to not only think of yourselves but think of your off-springs on what sort of America and world you want to leave behind.

Posted by: refreds | February 8, 2008 5:06 AM | Report abuse

anyone curious why she 'loaned' her campaign the money. are her donors giving her money as a loan? Hey Billary, can i 'loan' you my vote?
Oligarchy =NOdemcracy. Billary put the crown DOWN!

Posted by: teopa | February 7, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Seriously speaking
How can Sen. Clinton manage AMERICA'S economy when her own (small) campaign went into the red??? This is scary. She is very intelligent but this concerns me and it should concern her voters.

Posted by: lizdukes | February 7, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Turns out that the news about Hillary Clinton donating $5 million of her own money while her senior staffers faced a loss of their paychecks may be just a ploy to win sympathy, again.

At first, the news of Hillary's financial difficulties struck me as odd, but not because her outside funds were drying up.

After all, Barack Obama is showing us all that Hillary can't even win a fixed fight, and "smart" money is not, well, dumb.

Still I asked myself, how was it that someone of once modest means who claimed to have worked tirelessly for 35 years ("fighting for YOU!") in the notoriously badly-paid public interest sector had become so wealthy?

Sure there's been some financial scandals.

And as the late Sen. Everett Dirksen used to say, "A million here, a million there --it adds up to real money."

But why focus on the negative? What does the skelton of a scandal or six rattling around in your closet matter, when you have so much experience and a well-tested finger to the wind?

Then, suddenly, a tune entered my head and I thought, maybe if I offered a tailored version of it to the Clinton campaign, they'd use it to replace that awful Celine Dion song that used to be Hillary's campaign anthem.

(Ya know, 99.999 percent of those recently surveyed also say they prefer the Obama Girl to that uni-sex Hillary Eunuch that popped up trying to imitate her.)

Anyway, compensation shouldn't been a problem, if the most recent report that Hillary is back in the pink of financial health is true.

For sure, I wouldn't ask what account at Clintons, Inc. the money came from, or which lobbyist forked it over.

(I'm sure if it was the latter it was in a gesture of sheer generosity--why think evil of people, K Street lobbyists have hearts too, no?

(After all, wasn't it those caring medical insurance lobbyists who hired that nice couple, Harry and Louise?)

If you ask me, it's like Bill with that race card thing. How unfair those critics, who you can be sure all belonged to that Vast Rightwing Conspiracy! (And how slick he was, no? ;D )

Always leave just a little wiggle room, small enough to fit the word "is" through. (Or a cigar.)

Anyway, remember that girls' song, "It's My Party," written by Wally Gold, John Gluck and Herb Weiner and recorded by Lesley Gore?

Well how about this version for HRC?

IT'S MY (DEMOCRATIC) PARTY

Nobody knows where my Bill has gone
Monica (Gennifer/Kathleen/Paula/etc.) left the same time
Why was he holding her/their hand(s)
When he's supposed to be mine?

It's my Democratic Party, and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you
(For that's what victims do-o-o-o).

Playin' my constituents, flip-flopping like a Wallenda,
Leave me alone for a while
'Till Bill's dancin' with me
I've got no reason to smile

It's my Democratic Party, and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you.

(lead break)
Monica (Gennifer/Kathleen/Paula/etc.) and Bill just walked through the door
Like a queen(s) with her/their king
Oh what a Dogpatch surprise
Monica (Gennifer/Kathleen/Paula/etc.) is/are wearin' his ring(s)

It's my Democratic Party and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you. ...

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | February 7, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

As i see it, with their policies being so similar, there is only one true difference. It is philosophical. Hillary believes in 'top down' government. This is obvious in her views when she talks policy. Remember the whole 'MLK needed LBJ' approach? Obama on the other hand believes in empowerment, and isnt that really the American way? Do you think we would have gotten our independance from G. Britain by negotiation? It was won through determination by individual uniting with individual until a mighty movement became a force to be reckoned with...

Democracy not oligarchy. Billary put the crown dOWn!

Posted by: teopa | February 7, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Barry's personal problems first surfaced in 1983, with the "This Is It" scandal. Barry was accused of using cocaine at a nightclub party - though a Post inquiry showed no evidence of wrongdoing. The police department was paralyzed by conflicting reports and allegations.
Barry also was seen with various women who were not his wife, and was accused of repeatedly calling a 23-year-old model, Grace Shell. The culmination of a series of embarrassing incidents was an FBI sting that caught Barry on a videotape smoking crack cocaine at the Vista Hotel with a female acquaintance.

During his 1990 trial, Barry's lawyer, R. Kenneth Mundy, acknowledged the mayor occasionally used cocaine. Barry was convicted of one of the 14 charges pending against him - a misdemeanor charge for possessing cocaine in November 1989. Jurors acquitted him of one of the other charges - of possessing cocaine in September 1988. On the other 12 charges, jurors were so deeply and passionately divided they could not reach a verdict. "I believe [the government was] out to get Marion Barry," one juror said. U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson declared a mistrial on the 12 deadlocked charges.

The mayor was sentenced to six months in prison in October 1990, while he was in the midst of a campaign for a D.C. Council seat.

Posted by: dyck21005 | February 7, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

More corrupt camp donations for Obama! WHERES THE MEDIA??? We are sick of the media pushing obama down our throats! on Oct. 5, in the aftermath of federal bribery/extortion/conspiracy/other miscellaneous badness indictments of former Dallas Mayor Pro Tem Don Hill , Obama camp supporter and financial contributor to Presidential candidate Barrack Obama who desperately wants campaign cash from another, criminal or not, Again Obama camp has its hands full with other publically indicted bankrollers Rezko. Now Mr. Hill's campaign finance report shows donations on April 28, and federal campaign finance reports indicate Mr. Obama received donations in June 22 as well. The Obama camp couldn't immediately be reached for comment Friday...Of Couse, did axelrod loose his voice?
Obama's Relationship With Rezko Goes Back 17 Years. Obama Kept Contributions From Accused Fixer's (REZKO)Wife And Others ABCNews.com Analysis Shows the Campaign Still Hasn't Returned More Than $100,000 in Obama is referred to in document which outlines case against Rezko As Barack Obama is finding out, it's not as easy to dump politically toxic campaign donations as it might seem. For the third time in more than a year, Obama's presidential campaign announced this week it was shedding more donations tied to indicted fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko. Calculations by the media and Obama's own staff of Rezko's financial impact on his past political campaigns have been all over the map and shifting. In the case of Obama, public records don't make clear every Rezko connection. The records show that since 1995, $74,500 came from Rezko, his relatives or contributors listed on official disclosure forms as employees of one of his businesses. Rezko has raised money for Obama's presidential campaign.

Posted by: dyck21005 | February 7, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Loved the one above about the Ex DC-Mayor Marion Barry endorsing Obama, why? well hes black of course, yes its about color! second, Both were junkies, difference Barry was in office at the time he was caught in a DC sting operation on Natioinal TV smoking crack with prositiutes in a DC hotel. Look it up, guess that something he and Obama have in common. NO way in hell would my family or friends ever vote for Oprahbama and put this country in more trouble...He doesnt have a clue whats going on when its not written down for him.
Todays Chuckle: Notice when Obama grins or smiles he looks just like the " Grinch that stole christmas"...hahahaha
Now you know your laughing right now reading this and thinking about it! HE DOES!!!

maybe that will be his next celebr endorsement since Oprah nor Uncle Teddy hasn't done much but help hide his record or the lack there of....

Posted by: dyck21005 | February 7, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

To the people voting in the upcoming primaries, to put you on notice about some common smears that have been proven false about Obama:

1. Claims he is a muslim - false, he is Christian and also believes in keeping religion and state separate.

2. Claims he is soft on pro-choice - he has a 100% rating with the pro-choice campaign and the endorsement of leaders in this field. False mailers and emails have been circulated earlier in the campaign in order to polarize women voters to Clinton. Do not be manipulated.

3. He does take money for Corporations and lobbyists - not true, he takes donations from individuals, some of which could be affiliated with a corporation or a lobby group - but they are individual donations and do not represent a 'buy' of his loyalties to special interests.

4. He has less experience than Clinton and no foreign policy experience - untrue, in many ways his experience is superior to Clinton's and he has managed to get more meaningful acts passed and has high authorship of bills. He also had 8 years in the Illinois Senate and has traveled extensively - including Iraq. Attempts have been made to suggest he was absent from more votes than Hillary - but they do not compare absences for the same time periods - i.e. when both were on the campaign trail.

5. He only talks in generalities, he has no specifics - Again, this is false - a check with his website will provide much detail on his policies, which are well thought out and pragmatic. On most issues, Clinton and Obama have the same policies. Clinton talking details of the content of those policies only points to her preference to explain policies in detail, but she may be spending most of her time talking about details that are identical to Obama's details.

Posted by: JayKay2 | February 7, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Black people voting for Obama in droves again? Hmmm... and they said that Asians in SF, Latinos in NV, and White women in NH are racists because they voted for Hillary

Hmm. Who's the racist now Obama cry babies?

Posted by: fjstratford | February 7, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

On the point some Hillary supporters make of him lacking substance but conceding him to be a great speaker - its an alogical statement: you can only be a great speaker if you have great substance, good words CANNOT be generated out of nothingness. My guess is these fellows just automatically tune out when he starts speaking for some reason - hence the myth that he lacks substance.

Posted by: rupertornelius | February 7, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

In Hillary's defense, I recall she did mention the homes hit by the tornadoes at the top of her speech that night. (I didn't actually hear her say it; I saw the closed-captioning scrawl at the bottom of the screen in a loud bar.) I'm an Obama supporter, but I still wanna be fair.

Posted by: whatmeregister | February 7, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else notice that on 'super tuesday' night when many people lost there homes, Obama made a point of asking people to be aware of the tragedy at hand. I myself had not heard anything of it having been at a caucus and watching coverage of the results. Even when i heard him mention it i thought, yeah tornadoes, but now i know how serious they were. Cynics (and i am frequently among them,) might dismiss this as a play for votes. I for one appreciated having been told, even the newscasters hadn't alerted me. But interestingly enough Hillary made no mention. Even though people in hardest hit Arkansas and Tennessee had supported her. Was she done with them by then, or just too busy celebrating?

Posted by: teopa | February 7, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Go Barack !

Posted by: PulSamsara | February 7, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

When people have asked me why I support Sen. Obama in this election, I usually explain that he's a better candidate, a man of personal integrity and strong character, he's been against the war in Iraq from Day One, etc. But then today I came across this picture which reminded me of another, more personal reason I recently found for supporting him:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/face-of-the-d-5.html

When I was walking door to door to get out the vote on Primary Days in South Carolina and Delaware, at many of the homes I visited I was met at the door by middle-aged and elderly black Americans who told me how thrilled they were that Obama was in this race. Some of these folks, I am sure, will not be around four or eight years from now. This will be their last opportunity to see, in some tangible way, the promise of this country finally fulfilled before their eyes close for the last time. And even though there are plenty of logical, well-reasoned, practical arguments for electing Barack Obama the next President of the United States, there is also this simple one. We need to take this next step for them.

Don't get me wrong: I'm usually a smartassed, cynical, steely-eyed SOB. But every so often I get infected with that damn hope bug and start thinking that just maybe we as a country are growing up a bit. At 47 I thought my immune system had finally filtered the stupid thing out of my bloodstream, but it's back. And who knows? Maybe we really can buck the odds and do better for ourselves instead of just meekly accepting whatever mediocre establishment hack the machine tells us to vote for.

In any case, I'll keep walking and knocking on doors and doing what I can, this time in Maryland and maybe Virginia. I feel I owe it to those people I've already met along the way who greeted me with smiles and warmth and hope... and especially to those who won't be there when I knock again four years from now. I want them to finally have the chance to see what they've been waiting a lifetime for.

_____________________

"I've never heard so many people during this past election campaign tell us how many things we couldn't do, how many things we couldn't compete with, how many things we couldn't dream about, and how many people we couldn't care for. Unbelievable. If there ever was anything that was part of the American Dream it's 'Yes we can' ... care, believe, dream..."
--Harry Chapin, speaking to his audience during one of his last concerts, at The Bottom Line, NYC, 1981

Posted by: whatmeregister | February 7, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Time to learn something about:
Barak & Michelle's Obama were married by and belong to pastor Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright - TRINITY CHURCH of CHRIST (www.tucc.org/about.htm )

Here is Jeremiah A. Wright unabashedly preaching his "African Roots" gospel.
www.youtube.com/watch...

Posted by: rmcnicoll | February 7, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Both Obama and Hillary are great candidates. I want them both and I think most democrats feel this way. If Obama wins, there's no way she would want Hillary on his ticket and carry her history (both an asset and liability).

If Hillary wins, she would have no choice but to choose Obama as Vice President due to the strong showing he has and his ability to attract the youth vote. Obama is young and I don't see him rejecting a VP ticket. That VP place can solve his experience problem and he can learn from Slick Willy a trick or two. Then can be pres in 2016.

After a brutal 8 years of W, a long 16 year of Democratic Reign is what I really want to see.

I want them both. This means, to get Hillary, Obama and Slick Willy back in the white house, we need Hillary to win.

Posted by: yeunganson | February 7, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

HUSSEIN OBAMA, HUSSEIN OBAMA, HUSSEIN OBAMA, HUSSEIN OBAMA, HUSSEIN OBAMA, SADDAM HUSSEIN, SADDAM HUSSEIN, HUSSEIN OBAMA, SADDAM HUSSEIN, OSAMA OBAMA HUSSEIN OSAMA OBAMA, YO MAMMA!

Posted by: 102060 | February 7, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

HUSSEIN Obama will be too busy rolling out his muslim prayer rug and sacraficing sheep in the bathtub to be worried about politics of foreign policy. His foreign policy consists of pulling all US forces out of 'his' precious muslim holy lands (just like his pal Osama told US to do)!

HUSSEIN Obama cannot and will not hold a candle to John McCain when it comes to foreign policy and military issues! HUSSEIN Obama is a pretty little sissy-boy when it comes to military issues! He can't handle the truth!

All you pacifist, liberal neo-dems put that in your pipes and smoke it!

Posted by: 102060 | February 7, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

"Either way we can't lose with the choices [Hillary or Barack] in front of us."

Want to bet? Hillary likes to say she knows how to beat republicans. I would like to point out that if winning a contest in one of the liberal Northeastern states were proof that you know how to beat republicans than we could now talk about the Dukakis and Kerry presidencies.

What Hillary really knows is how to anger the GOP - remember "the vast right wing conspiracy?" Nothing will unite the republicans more than nominating Hillary. Obama can win every state that has been carried by Clinton, but the reverse is not true. Hillary, will not carry traditional red states like MT and ID. Remember, you need independents to win in the Fall. Don't count on independents to send The Clintons back to the oval office. While many democrats are - or after South Carolina should I say "were" - fond of Bill, most independents are acutely aware that he shamed the office and have not forgotten the disgusting pardons he handed out as he left the White House. His post-presidential profiteering isn't exactly a point of pride either. Enough with the Clintons already, Obama is a much better choice. He can win the general election. Hillary cannot.

Posted by: brooksofsheffield | February 7, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

'Plouffe conceded that Virginia also is strong Obama turf, given its large African American population'--indicates use of race for vote.But if you say it,you are a racist.How rediculous!!!

Posted by: mgm18122003 | February 7, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how it can be call racist when black Americans in truly the first time in American History support a inspiring viable candidate that happens to be black. If that's true than we can say that the majority of our white brothers and sisters before this campaign were always racist in their choices. In the history of this nation there has been only four black senators and about that many governors. It's extremely rare for popular qualified mainstream black politicians to win statewide office. My goodness what possibly could be behind that phenomenon? However, on the other hand blacks have supported the FDR's, JFK's, LBJ's, Clinton, Carter, etc. with considerable enthusiasm and even love. Obama is the real thing and that is verified by the fact that whites are voting for him. This validation was in fact the cue to blacks that this guy is the real item and someone that can win the nomination. Before that we were all willing to March in lockstep with Hillary like the rest of the Dems. I guaranteed you if Obama would had finished badly in the first two extremely white states - Iowa & NH, most blacks would had stuck with the wife of the "1st Black president". So if someone is to be blamed...blame those beautiful colorblind white citizens of Iowa & NH for being so revolutionary and courageous.

In the past presidential campaigns of Chisholm, Jackson, and Sharpton, mainstream white support was not the case and blacks subsequently did not lend their support to these candidates and instead supported the white guy most likely to garner the nomination.

Please do not characterize blacks as being racist because after 43 white male presidents later(we never made a fuss about it)...we find ourselves in the midst of the one guy who is inspiring, smart and has the right stuff to pull it off. My late mom never thought this day would come and I was in total agreement. If Obama is elected I think it will go a long way in making us as black Americans prouder than ever of this great land we love and helped to build...by just merely providing us with a feeling of relevance and true acceptance.

However, if sister Clinton wins the nomination, you better believe the vast majority of us will be buoyantly behind her historical quest 100%. Either way we can't lose with the choices in front of us.

Posted by: blairnesbitt | February 7, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

the media is pushing the emphasis black demographic too hard, and the clinton camp and the media are eager to discount states w/ black populations. what happened to 1 person 1 vote. are the media and clinton campaign repudiating this fundamental ? This is why people from people in ID,MO to people in SC, and GA want change.

Posted by: jacade | February 7, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

obama was not in the senate when the vote for the war was taken. correct. senator clinton was and she VOTED FOR IT. SHE VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR.

obama was not at the senate when the kyl-lieberman vote was taken. he was away. correct. senator clinton was there and SHE VOTED FOR IT.

you can fault him for not being there, personally I fault her for voting yes.

Posted by: tulone | February 7, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

>>>>Plouffe conceded that Virginia also is strong Obama turf, given its large African American population,

Is Clinton that bad of a candidate that deserves no more than 20% of female Afrian American votes?

Posted by: kat7 | February 7, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Virginia's Obama followers sound like they looked at the 61 year old "work horse" senator from New York and decided they didn't want an old gray mare. I do see the point. Like the giddy MSNBC reporters, the Obama Dems choose a golden-tongued prince recently crowned by moldy Camelot; a fit sibling to Caroline, with her own unremarkable accomplishments. The glitz of Hollywood, the daytime soap of Oprah, the empty refrain of hope and change make them want to be transported out of the stodgy Old Dominion to Obamamania. Never mind the hard business of government and solid planning; they can leave that to boring workers while they bask in the glow of their new show horse. Trouble is, when they wake up, those boring workers will be the newly elected Republican administration laughing and grateful to Obamamaniacs for rejecting the better candidate: Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Posted by: epperlytrudel | February 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama was not in the Senate when the vote for the war was taken. Since he has gotten to the Senate he has voted exactly like Sen. Clinton on issues of the war.

He now criticizes Sen. Clinton for her Iran vote, but he was the only Senator who neglected to return to The Senate to cast a vote.

Of the three Senators left in the race Sen. Clinton is the only one who has sponsored any bills since the start of the year. She still takes her job seriously.

And, if I am correct Sen. Obama has never been to Iraq, but Sen. Clinton has been more than once.

Posted by: LadyEagle | February 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Please ANYONE tell me what has Hillary Clinton ever achieved as a US Senator.

Posted by: ne_voice | February 7, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Politicalobserver1 wrote... Secondly, HRC has Bill Clinton to ask for advice.
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That's true, but many of us who remember the scandals of Bill's last year in the White House don't want him anywhere near the place. As your comment suggests, a vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill as he would likely be Hillary's co-president. Among other things, he lied under oath, which got him disbarred by the U.S. Supreme Court and the State of Arkansas. He's one of only two presidents who ever underwent impeachment proceedings. In short he disgraced the Office of the Presidency. You may want him back but just be mindful of the venality that is part of his makeup. I'm embarrassed that I voted for him twice, but that's before I realized how morally bankrupt they both are!

Posted by: lhummer | February 7, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I think it is fair to say that The Clintons are not exactly embraced by half the people in this country (the GOP) and they are also distrusted by a significant number of people inside their own party.

So why support a candidate that sparks partisanship and division?

Why nominate a northeast liberal that is guaranteed to engender the wrath of the oppostion when you can send Obama instead? How does she defend her for-it-then-against-it Iraq vote against John McCain? She can't even defend it against Obama.

I am an independent. I will consider voting for Obama but I will not vote for Hillary.

Let's stop this bush-clinton-bush-clinton nonsense. Is anyone actually proud of that? Does anyone think more that is the answer?

Posted by: brooksofsheffield | February 7, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I notice that Obama was blaming Bush for the fiasco in New Orleans. He failed to make note that both the state and the city are bastions of the democratic party, nor did he mention that it is the responsibility of congress to oversee government monies and grants, etc,. he switched blame for everything from the responsible parties to someone who was not responsible and the press loves him for it. Mayor Nagan had hundreds of busses to move people out of New Orleans,he knew where they lived and which ones needed transportation, yet he chooses to blame the president his own inability to act in an emergency, and hundreds died because of Nagan's and the Governors ineptness.
Something for everyone to note. In These tornados that killed many and destroyed much of several states, did anyone see any rioting, or screaming people asking where the government money or help was??? No! They saw people who were not used to being spoon fed, they saw people who were hard working and who, seeing the destruction, now take charge of fixing things themselves not waiting for some government agency to do it for them.
Neither Obama or Clinton have been truthful in the campaign to be president,and they certainly will not be truthful if elected president.
That they can stand before the American people and tell US what they know to be a total falsehood, a complete lie, with a straight face,then ask for your vote demonstrates that they will lie to you even more so if elected.
This is an election year when "none of the above" should get most of the votes.
Respectfully

Posted by: dg11703 | February 7, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

MaruAngarita: you are a retard and need probably a new brain. Bid for it on ebay...

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | February 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

CASES OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AGAINST LATINOS BY THE CLINTONS!
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/hillarDy.htm
STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | February 7, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

FROM THE VOTO LATINO WEBSITE : CLINTON VOTED FOR THE USE OF CLUSTER BOMBS

Clinton, Obama, and Cluster Bombs

by David Rees

If you're a friend of mine, or a fan of "Get Your War On," you probably know how important the issue of cluster bombs and landmines is to me.

It was America's use of cluster bombs during Operation: Enduring Freedom that led me to start GYWO seven(!) years ago this fall, and it has been my pleasure and my honor to donate the royalties from the two GYWO anthologies to Mine Detection & Dog Center Team #5, a landmine removal team in western Afghanistan.

[...]
Cluster bombs and landmines are particularly terrifying weapons that wreak havoc on communities trying to recover from war. They are fatal impediments to reconstruction and rehabilitation of agricultural land; they destroy valuable livestock; they disable otherwise productive members of society; they maim or kill children trying to salvage them for scrap metal.

[...]

Senator Obama of Illinois voted IN FAVOR of the ban.

Senator Clinton of New York voted AGAINST the ban.

I'm not a single-issue voter. But as Obama and Clinton share many policy positions, this vote was revelatory for me. After all, Amendment No. 4882 was an easy one to vote against:...one decided her vote on Amendment No. 4882 according to a political calculation. The other used a moral calculation.

http://blog.votolatino.org/

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | February 7, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I keep hearing Senator Barack Obama telling the crowds that he will "talk" to terrorists, guerrillas and the psycho dictators of the world. How naive can Obama be? I feel that this is a dangerous approach since most of the thug leaders do hate Americans. Is Obama supporting the thug leaders or are the thug leaders supporting Obama? I have read that those who support Obama have met with guerrillas and dictators to talk to them.

As an independent voter, I am very concerned that Senator Obama's lack of understanding of world affairs will put Hugo Chavez, and other questionable leaders on The White House guest list.

Posted by: MaruAngarita | February 7, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama may be in for a big surprise. Virginia has a sizable Latino and Asian population and will overwhelmingly go for Clinton. It's time we have a candidate that represents all people, not just the African American voice.

Posted by: diplomat111 | February 7, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

This democratic election HAS indeed become all about black and white and gender! Who are we kidding? The pattern of votes on Super Tues. came from blacks, white men for Obama and Latinos and women for Clinton. The press plays a huge role in downplaying the Clinton victories and boosting Obama's win. Add to this the additional players: the Kennedys and the Oprahs. This election is no longer about issues and hard-pressed problems of the country. It's about who is who and who knows who and people airing their prejudices and preferences based on preconceived notions, not about what the country needs to stand up on its feet again.
I will not be voting this time.

Posted by: utopia53 | February 7, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Historically in America, how partial would you say white males have been to white males? Sooooo partial they denied women and blacks the right to vote to ensure they'd never be elected and yet called America a democracy. On the other hand, women and blacks after finally wresting the vote, have continually voted for white males over females and blacks. This is an historical fact.

Posted by: jhbyer | February 7, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

FROM THE VOTO LATINO WEBSITE : CLINTON VOTED FOR THE USE OF CLUSTER BOMBS

Clinton, Obama, and Cluster Bombs

by David Rees

If you're a friend of mine, or a fan of "Get Your War On," you probably know how important the issue of cluster bombs and landmines is to me.

It was America's use of cluster bombs during Operation: Enduring Freedom that led me to start GYWO seven(!) years ago this fall, and it has been my pleasure and my honor to donate the royalties from the two GYWO anthologies to Mine Detection & Dog Center Team #5, a landmine removal team in western Afghanistan.

[...]
Cluster bombs and landmines are particularly terrifying weapons that wreak havoc on communities trying to recover from war. They are fatal impediments to reconstruction and rehabilitation of agricultural land; they destroy valuable livestock; they disable otherwise productive members of society; they maim or kill children trying to salvage them for scrap metal.

[...]

Senator Obama of Illinois voted IN FAVOR of the ban.

Senator Clinton of New York voted AGAINST the ban.

I'm not a single-issue voter. But as Obama and Clinton share many policy positions, this vote was revelatory for me. After all, Amendment No. 4882 was an easy one to vote against:...one decided her vote on Amendment No. 4882 according to a political calculation. The other used a moral calculation.

http://blog.votolatino.org/

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | February 7, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

People,

You must read carefully.

Plouffe did not say what Obama's strenght were. He never mentioned african american in Virginia or anywhere. The author of the article did. Quotes are put in "..." marks.

Obama never plays the race card. Ever.

Obama 08!

Posted by: reginald.hodges | February 7, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

To the couple of people who insinuate that Obama is less experienced than Hillary, I think you're confusing experience with age. He's held elected for 8 years (State Senate 6 years, US Senate, 2 years), and has campaigned 3 times. Hillary has campaigned once and held elected office 7 years (7 Years US Senate. Plus, he was president of the Harvard Law Review, a professor of Constitutional law, and was a community organizer on the streets of Chicago.

Name recognition from being the first lady and being 14 years older doesn't make you more 'experienced.' (Although I'll admit she's tough enough to handle GOP attacks, I'd rather have a president in the White House, not a target).

In fact, it is precisely Obama's experience that swayed me to support him. And you know what? I actually like Hillary. I think she's been vilified unfairly by the press, and I think she's intelligent and likable. But there are things in her'experience' that raise questions about her judgment, and she clearly has an electability problem.

I think Obama is vastly more electable and, much more importantly, his career and political actions demonstrate a self-made man of unique intelligence, perception, compasssion, judgment, and much needed humility (given the bravado arrogance of the last 8 years). This is a democrat who could not only win the presidencybut could do so with many swing votes and begin his presidency with an actual mandate.

Dems, don't screw this up. He's the one who can deliver the White House.

Posted by: ChrisDC | February 7, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

ask and you shall receive zukermand:

san francisco chronicle, 1/27/08

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

Would draw up a phased withdrawal plan within first two months, with the goal of having most troops out by the end of her term in 2013. Careful not to promise a complete withdrawal and would keep residual forces in Iraq to combat terrorists, deter outside military intervention and aid the Iraqi army, but not prop up the Iraqi government. Pledges to gather U.S. allies and Iraq's neighbors to discuss ways to stabilize Iraq.

BARACK OBAMA

...Would remove one to two combat brigades each month until most U.S. troops are out in 16 months. Would leave residual force to fight terrorists.

Posted by: tulone | February 7, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I have a question for tim591...why do you think the Republicans will win red states such as South Carolina and Hispanic-dominated states such as Florida, Arizona, etc.? American voters have overwhelmingly supported Democratic candidates in all state elections held so far with an unprecedented increase in voters casting ballots (15% increase in voter participation for Democratic candidates) since the 2004 presidential election. I'm sure McCain and other conservative right-wingers are looking at this staggering increase in numbers with much apprehension. Obama can and will unify the Democratic Party to present a strong and unified front that will defeat McCain in the general election. I'm not so sure Hllary Clinton can do the same.

Posted by: saint4life | February 7, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

CASES OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AGAINST LATINOS BY THE CLINTONS!
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/hillarDy.htm
STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!

Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php

CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.

GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...
SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???

BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | February 7, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I think it to be very naive that people are actually saying Obama can only win in predominant blac states. Obama's most crushing wins came in states that have a vast amount of white voters. So your saying that there is a lot of african americans in NORTH DAKOTA,IDAHO,IOWA,KANSAS,COLORADO,UTAH AND ALASKA?

IN ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED STATED OBAMA WHOOPED HILLARY

Posted by: WIKKIDINSANE | February 7, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I think it to be very naive that people are actually saying Obama can only win in predominant blac states. Obama's most crushing wins came in states that have a vast amount of white voters. So your saying that there is a lot of african americans in NORTH DAKOTA,IDAHO,IOWA,KANSAS,COLORADO,UTAH AND ALASKA?

IN ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED STATED OBAMA WHOOPED HILLARY

Posted by: WIKKIDINSANE | February 7, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Aepelbaum, you're very offensive. Is that your intention?

Posted by: zukermand | February 7, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Caucasus in Florida is the very good idea, I think. At least, it would be the expression of what people want others to think about them. No insecurities, no paranoia, and no secret scizophrenia in booths. I would never forget how after this strange illegal primary in Florida one gal, or pretending to be a gal, wrote to me that she voted for Clinton "because of Gore's non selfish book about the environment, which he-Gore published in 1992". I do not think that anybody would say something like that during any caucasus. So, caucasus is much better under the current circumstances, as the presence of beholders force people, especially females, to be, at least, a bit rational.

Posted by: aepelbaum | February 7, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

tulone:"And Obama has a much more aggressive strategy to get the troops out than she does"

How do they differ? Enlighten me.

Posted by: zukermand | February 7, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse


FROM THE VOTO LATINO WEBSITE : CLINTON VOTED FOR THE USE OF CLUSTER BOMBS

Clinton, Obama, and Cluster Bombs

by David Rees

If you're a friend of mine, or a fan of "Get Your War On," you probably know how important the issue of cluster bombs and landmines is to me.

It was America's use of cluster bombs during Operation: Enduring Freedom that led me to start GYWO seven(!) years ago this fall, and it has been my pleasure and my honor to donate the royalties from the two GYWO anthologies to Mine Detection & Dog Center Team #5, a landmine removal team in western Afghanistan.

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Cluster bombs and landmines are particularly terrifying weapons that wreak havoc on communities trying to recover from war. They are fatal impediments to reconstruction and rehabilitation of agricultural land; they destroy valuable lives