The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

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I hate to say "I told you so" because it wasn't really that hard to predict Ohio, given the polls I saw. Sorry to disappoint all you Obamaniacs -- there's no hope that she drops out now -- I am wondering if he would accept the VP spot now?

Watching the process from abroad is enlightening.

What strikes me most is how self serving everthing Clinton does and says is.

She has gone negative against her own party, given the republicans ammunition and she is practicing the politics of fear. 3am phone call ads, slights against Obama.

She is a skilled politician but I am tired of the same old, same old from American politics. If she takes office she will be a tool of corporate organisations and lobbyists from day one. Nothing big will change, she inspires hated not collaboration.

I question the judgement of a country that elected G Bush twice,(Twice I still can't believe it) and may swallow her divisive, fear mongering and dishonerable tactics.

It's so ironic that you support a candidate whom you admire for "new politics", hope and unity, and his supporters are so divisive and ugly. I respect everyone's right to their views. But I've seen so many, many more vulgar and hateful comments directed at Hillary.

Like this gem.....

hillary clinton = human fecal matter

Posted by: maricopajoe

jasonmezydlo:

Do you think I am a "racist moron" for using Hillary DIANE Clinton or John SIDNEY McCain's middle name too?

Hillary is throwing the kitchen sink and all the mud in her backyard at Obama, and unfortunately with the US, some of these lies and smears seem to stick. The Clinton dynasty may win the nomination yet with the very negative tear-down politics taken straight out of the Swiftboat Republican team. We can look forward to a general campaign when Hillary will have to explain all the corruption hidden in her and Bill's tax returns, and there will be zillions of shows and ads featuring women who have been assaulted by the first Clinton. This is what Obama refuses to publicize, as he is only talking about issues and playing defense against negative lies but not attacking the Clintons' many many flaws. The Democratic party and the nation will face a decade and more of divisive ruinous politics and the country will spiral faster down to its decline.

Jake.... whatever your middle name is...

You are racist moron.

Quote: You can see it in Texas with the ringing phone ad, her starkest effort of the campaign to brandish her experience and brand Barack Obama as unfit to protect your children in an international crisis.

Can you do more damage to your party than that ad? During the primaries of her own party, she does the utmost to damage the man who may well win the nomination. So the Republicans will know fully well where to hit for the Presidential election.

Wherever she treads, Hillary Clinton shows the worst judgement when it comes to the interests of you Americans. The jury's still out when it comes to her own interests.

She is about to lose you the elections in November:

http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/comment-this-cannot-go-any-further/

It would behoove Mr Balz to consider recusing himself from further reporting on this campaign. It is apparent he is unable to do so in a responsible, professional manner and it reflects poorly on his employer and himself, as well as poorly serving the public at an important juncture.

When did Hillary Clinton deliver health-care reform or demonstrate her economic wisdom and foresight while Alan Greenspan was warning of irrational exuberance as the subprime housing loans were created and pandered during her husband's administration and her husband supported China's entry into the World Trade Organization without any conditions such as protecting the environment or labor and property rights to levels that are comparable to western standards?

Today China is not only a leading contributor to environmental pollution and global warming (thank you very much Mr. Nobel Laureate, Al Gore), it's also pushing up oil and other commodity prices, taking our jobs and stealing our intellectual property.

If experience, wisdom and judgment may be relied upon to judge a presidential candidate's abilities to solve problems, then let's look at the records of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

2005 - While Barack Obama promoted a restoration of balance between work and wealth and criticized special interests for distorting U.S. tax codes, Hillary Clinton and her husband liquidated their blind trust of the nearly $50 million amassed during their years in public office.

2002 - While Barack cautioned that without clear rationale an invasion of Iraq would encourage the worst impulses of the Arab world and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda, Hillary told Larry King she didn't regret her vote on the Iraq war resolution because like the Bush administration, the Clinton administration viewed Saddam Hussein as a threat to the international community.

1999 - While Barack secured bipartisan support for health-care reform and passage of low-income tax credits and child care subsidies in the Illinois legislature, Hillary supported her husband's Iraq "regime change" policy in order to divert public attention from the president's marital, legal and ethical infidelities.

1989 - While Barack Obama served as the Harvard Law Review's first black president, Hillary Clinton then wife of the Arkansas governor received payments from a law firm that was doing the state's business and received board of director payments from Wal-Mart where she remained silent about Wal-Mart's anti-labor union practices.

1979 - While Barack Obama was actively involved in the South African divestment movement to end apartheid, Hillary reaped profits of almost 10,000% in the futures markets and left taxpayers with her real-estate losses in the Savings & Loan bailout.

In Hillary's eight (8) years in the Senate, the Congressional Record (www.thomas.gov) shows she "sponsored" only two (2) pieces of legislation that were presented to the president for signature. The first piece of legislation (S. 1241) was to establish a historic site in New York state, the second (S. 3613) was to name a U.S. Postal Service building.

At 3:00 AM who is Hillary gonna call in a national crisis? GHOSTBUSTERS? Without any attachment to a position and no leadership qualities or principles to guide her in a time of national crisis, Hillary like her husband, would need to first conduct a poll to determine what is in her political interest before committing to any national decision.

It's refreshingly nice to see the better angels of America's character prevailing as voters reject the racial, religious and ethnic slurs being spewed by the divisive supporters of Clinton, Limbaugh and Hannity.

As a Republican-leaning independent, I will vote for Barack Obama if he is the Democratic nominee running against John McCain but I will not vote for Hillary Clinton.

thinktank - you are incorrect, unless you are a GOP supporter, then from your persepctive it is good for you. At its current tone, this race extending would be a disaster. However, IF, it was on the high road until the end, it would be great - but the way it is going now, nastier by the day - it will produce nothing but ill will.

Here's the bottom line...this race is knocking the socks of the Republicans. They can't get any traction or attention because of the 2 rock stars the Democrats have running.

Join Clinton and Obama in a class act performance and be a part of history. There is NO WAY this is bad for the party.

marthap1-Bad news.

Both Obasama and Billary are NOT on your side when it comes to Health Care.

They, are on the Insurance Companies side! They want everyone(But the 15-20 MILLION Illegals who have destroyed our Hospitals with Emergency Room and Maternity Ward/Pediatric Rip-Offs), to have to buy or be supplied with INSURANCE!

How many people do you know who are Bankrupt due to INADEQUATE Insurance?

TREATMENT is what is needed. NOT, subsidizing Middlemen between the People and the Doctors and Hospitals!

Removal of 20 Million freeloading Invaders and ALL their wrongly Naturalized Spawn would also go a very, VERY long way towards making Medical Treatments for legally residing Americans affordable again! Not to mention the incredible Boost to our Salaries!

The Dimocrat Socialists, do NOT share this view! :-(

Hillary screwed up health care reform, BADLY. She voted to invade Iraq. She supported NAFTA. She refuses to meet with, communicate with and negotiate with our "enemies" unless they first jump through the hoops she sets up for them. She has run an inefficient and dishonest political campaign... her campaign has no message and no vision, her staff is in turmoil, she has had to fire her campaign managers, her campaign almost went bankrupt until she "loaned" it $5 million.

And this woman wants to run our country. Think about this, people !!

HILLARY: GO AWAY and leave us alone !!! Get a little class once in your life and, unless you win blowout victories tomorrow, GO AWAY. Have some consideration for your party, your country and what the voters want. VOTERS DON'T WANT YOU. GO AWAY, and take your cheating, lying, rapist, disbarred, impeached husband with you.

Somewhere, a Mental Ward has lost a Patient.

And it was a Big One!

LOL! I preferred "AfraidofRAT" ;~)

BTW "Fraidy", if you are suffering from some "Curiosity" thing, I believe JakeD might be willing to help you! ;~)

Some delegate math:

Current estimates (with BEST Hillary numbers):

Pledged:
Clinton - 1035
Obama - 1187

If we take the poll numbers for March 4, assuming Clinton wins EVERY undecided voter, and the polls reflect the number of delegates at stake, we get:
Ohio - Clinton (56%) 79 delegates, Obama 62 delegates
Texas - (52%) 100 delegates, Obama 93 delegates
Rhode Island - (63%) 13 delegates, Obama 8 delegates
Vermont - (43%) 6 delegates, Obama 9 delegates

The delegate count ON March 4 would be:
CLinton - 198
Obama - 172

After March 4, the pledged delegate count would be:
Clinton - 1035 + 198 = 1233
Obama - 1187 + 172 = 1357

Let's add in the announced superdelegates (again, using the best estimates from Hillary's perspective, CNN's estimate):
Clinton - 236
Obama - 185
That means there are 373 superdelegates from which to gain support, if none switch.

We now have:
Clinton: 1233 + 236 = 1469
Obama: 1357 + 185 = 1542

There are 606 delegates to be decided between March 5 and June 7. Counting delegates to be selected (606) and superdelegates who haven't announced (373), we get 979 delegates.

Clinton needs 556 of those 979 outstanding delegates to get to 2025, or 57%. Obama needs 483 of those 979 outstanding delegates to get to 2025, or 43%.

Of the remaining primaries after March 4, the 3 largest are Pennsylvania (158 delegates), North Carolina (115 delegates) and Indiana (72 delegates).

Obama has closed a 14 point poll deficit on 2/17 to a 4 point poll deficit now. Let's say Hillary wins Pennsylvania by 10%, 87 delegates to 71.

Obama is leading in North Carolina by 10 - 14%. Let's say he wins by 12%, 64 delegates to 51.

Obama is leading in Indiana by 25%. Let's say he wins by 12%, 40 delegates to 32.

Hillary actually loses 11 delegates in those three states compared to a 50/50 split. She would need to win 60% of the delegates (NOT 60% of the vote, but of the DELEGATES) in the remaining states to win the nomination at that point. And that is including all the undeclared superdelegates who haven't declared in that delegate pool. Considering that 94 superdelegates announced for Obama in February, and 51 for Clinton, a 60/40 break of superdelegates for Clinton is difficult to fathom right now.

Possible? Yes
Probable? No

jd4lad,

I am old enough to remember when Jack Kennedy was President, and sadly Barack is no Jack Kennedy, not even close. More like Ted Kennedy his prime benefactor right now. Jack Kennedy, was a war hero and did 3 terms in the Senate before he ran for the Presidency. If he were alive today he would be considered a Conservative. Read some of old speeches. Also, he compromised with his arch nemesis LBJ for the good of the party, he didn't try to strong arm his opponent out of the race for the good of the party. What part of the Democratic process is this? Did I miss somthing?

THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG! A CLOSE CLINTON CONFIDANTE HAS REVEALED THAT ALL CLINTON WANTS IS TO DEPART ON A HIGH NOTE! SHE RECOGNIZES THE MATH IS NOT ON HER SIDE BUT SHE DOES WANT TO MAKE A STRONG EXIT! YES, SHE IS LEAVING TOMORROW NIGHT!GOOD LUCK HILLARY!

Senator Clinton has no realistic chance of winning the nomination, unless she wins both Ohio and Texas by close to 2-1 margins.
If she fails in this and still continues her campaign, her only objective could be to prevent an Obama Presidential victory in 2008, thus allowing her another shot in 2012.

You might be an idiot!

If you close your eyes and listen to the candidates' answers to issues and end up
not voting for the candidate who best resembles JFK during this election.

The last time Hillary tried duking it out on our behalf, her health care plan flopped like a one-eyed salmon trying to get upstream. Hillary will not solve our country's problems, no matter how hard she tries to convince us she will. Anything that was ever worthwhile in this country came about because there was a movement of change to power it through. Obama is the only candidate that can drive such a tectonic shift.

JackSmith1 wrote:

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

mp2007,

Your good friend jacksmith1 was referring to Kosovo, NOT Somalia. If you think Somalia is a Nuclear Power its time to put down the crack pipe and stop watching Blackhawk Down.

jacksmith1,

Well done!

Hubert Humphery like Hillary wanted to fight to the bitter end. He took the Democratic party down with him, and his end around the electorate in 1968 to force his way on the convention destroyed the Democratic party as we know it. It led to Richard Nixon and more years of death and war. The answer to McCain is not the so called fighting democrat. Humphery the fighter lost Ohio in the general election to Nixon. His nomination demoralized a generation of young democratic voters. Dont vote for Hillary, end her candidacy now and do so emphatically. If you don't then count on a McCain presidency, more years of war, and a possible Jeb Bush/ AlGore match up in 2012.

Congress people endorsing Obama:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barack_Obama_presidential_campaign_endorsements#Newspapers

Senators

* Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), Chairman of the Budget Committe[1]
* Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), former 2008 Presidential candidate and Chairman of the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs[2]
* Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND), Chairman of the Democratic Policy Committee, and the Committee on Indian Affairs[3]
* Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), Senate Majority Whip[4]
* Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI)[5]
* Sen. Tim Johnson, Chairman of the Ethics Committee (D-SD) [6]
* Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Chairman of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions[7][8]
* Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), 2004 Democratic Presidential Nominee, Chairman of the Small Business Committee[9]
* Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Chairman of the Judiciary Committee [10]
* Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) [11]
* Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) [12]
* Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Chairman of the Intelligence Committee [13]
* Fmr. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) [14]
* Fmr. Sen. Bill Bradley (D-NJ) [15]
* Fmr. Sen. Jean Carnahan (D-MO)[16]
* Fmr. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (I-RI), (R-RI while in office)[17][18]
* Fmr. Sen. Harris Wofford (D-PA)[19]
* Fmr. Sen. Gary Hart (D-CO)[20]
* Fmr. Shadow Sen. Jesse Jackson (D-DC)[21][22]

[edit] U.S. Representatives

* Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI)[23][24]
* Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA)[25]
* Rep. John Barrow (D-GA)[26]
* Rep. Melissa Bean (D-IL)[27]
* Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-CA)[28]
* Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-GA) [29]
* Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) [30]
* Rep. Rick Boucher (D-VA)[31]
* Rep. G. K. Butterfield (D-NC)[32]
* Rep. Mike Capuano (D-MA)[33]
* Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-MO)[27]
* Rep. Kathy Castor (D-FL)[34]
* Rep. William Lacy Clay, Jr. (D-MO)[35]
* Rep. John Conyers (D-MI)[35]
* Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN)[27]
* Rep. Jerry Costello (D-IL)[27]
* Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD)[35][23]
* Rep. Artur Davis (D-AL)[35]
* Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-IL)[35][36]
* Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) [37]
* Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)[38]
* Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)[39]
* Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX)[40]
* Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN)[35][41][23]
* Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-CA) [42]
* Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA)[35][43]
* Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (D-TX)[44]
* Rep. Al Green (D-TX)[35]
* Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)[45]
* Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)[27]
* Rep. Phil Hare (D-IL)[27]
* Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin[46]
* Rep. Paul Hodes (D-NH)[47]
* Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC)[48]
* Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)[35][49]
* Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX)[50]
* Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA)[35]
* Rep. Steve Kagen (D-WI)[51]
* Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy (D-RI)[52]
* Rep. Ron Kind (D-WI)[53]
* Rep. John Larson (D-CT)[54]
* Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA)[35]
* Rep. John Lewis (D-GA)[55]
* Rep. David Loebsack (D-IA)[56]
* Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)[57]
* Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN) [58]
* Rep. George Miller (D-CA)[59]
* Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI)[35]
* Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA)[60]
* Rep. Chris Murphy (D-CT)[54]
* Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA)[27]
* Rep. Jim Oberstar (D-MN)[30]
* Rep. David Obey (D-WI)[61]
* Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-CO)[62]
* Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND)[63]
* Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ)[27]
* Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL)[35]
* Rep. Linda Sánchez (D-CA)[64]
* Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)[65]
* Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)[66]
* Rep. David Scott (D-GA)[67]
* Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA) [68]
* Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH)[69]
* Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) [70][23]
* Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS)[71]
* Rep. Tim Walz (D-MN)[72]
* Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT)[73]
* Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL)[27]
* Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD)[74]
* Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY)[75]
* Rep. Eni Faleomavaega (D-AS) (non-voting Delegate)[76]
* Fmr. Rep. John B. Anderson (I-IL), (R-IL while in office) [77]
* Fmr. Rep. Berkley Bedell (D-IA)[78]
* Fmr. Rep. Don Bonker (D-WA)[citation needed]
* Fmr. Rep. Brad Carson (D-OK), Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense[79]
* Fmr. Rep. Don Edwards (D-CA)[80]
* Fmr. Rep. Mel Levine (D-CA)[66]
* Fmr. Rep. Romano L. Mazzoli (D-KY)[81]
* Fmr. Rep. Pete McCloskey (D-CA) (R-CA while in office) [82]
* Fmr. Rep. Abner J. Mikva (D-IL), former White House Counsel under President Clinton; Chief Judge, DC Court of Appeals[83]
* Fmr. Rep. Major Owens (D-NY)[84]
* Fmr. Rep. Tim Roemer (D-IN), Member of the 9/11 Commission[85]
* Fmr. Rep. Howard Wolpe (D-MI)[83]

In 1975, lawyerHillary attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old rape victim:

"I found this story about a case where Hillary used her knowledge of child abuse to get a man off of rape charges to be very sad and disturbing. Of course, it was her job as a lawyer to provide a competent defense, but it seems like she may have crossed a line by aggressively attacking the 12-year-old girl"s character.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story

She seems to have carried that tactic with her when she actively participated in smear campaigns against the credibility of the victims of her husband"s harassment, even after he was caught lying under oath in a court of law. Making women terrified to report sexual harassment out of fear of being publicly humiliated and having their careers destroyed is a terrible role model for women, as is attacking the character of 12-year-old rape victims.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/24/164324/479/466/463280

We have seen this movie before;
Hillary Clinton 2008 = Hubert Humphery 1968
Barack Obama 2008 = Kennedy/McCarthy 1968
John McCain 2008 = Richard Nixon 1968

A vote for Hillary is a vote to make the same mistake made back in 1968 -- a destructive convention and general election loss putting GOP in power. We don't have to repeat history folks.

After four days of non-denial denials, the Obama campaign now acknowledges a conversation over NAFTA with a senior Canadian diplomat. Has Obama been upfront about the 1993 trade agreement?

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS A `HALF TRUTH & TRUE LIES ` PERSON.

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVED HIS WORDS THAT HE IS A TRUE CHRISTIAN AT HEART & NOT A MUSLIM.

HE IS ONLY TELLING HALF TRUTH & TRUE LIES.

DO YOU WANT SUCH A PERSON AS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AS PRESIDENT.

VOTE HILARY OR VOTE REPUBLICAN MCCAIN

We have seen this movie before;
Hillary Clinton 2008 = Hubert Humphery 1968

In case you are too young to remember, or so old that your forgetting, Humphery didnt deserve the nomination but got it over the will of the primary voters in a lot of states. Humphery was the candidate of the super delegates of the time who were party insiders. It ripped the party apart, as did his reluctance to apologize for the Vietnam war.

Barack Obama 2008 = Kennedy/McCarthy 1968

RFK and McCarthy tried to make the party about something other than the big shots in Washington. Unfortunately tragedy stopped the effort just as RFK had the edge in California.

John McCain 2008 = Richard Nixon 1968

McCain has that baloney attribute tricky dicky did of promising a secret plan to solve the stalemate of the war. Of course the war went on for years.

A vote for Hillary is a vote to make the same mistake made back in 1968 -- a destructive convention where democrats may protest in the streets in Denver and a general election loss putting GOP in power for years. We don't have to repeat history folks. Vote Obama.

Go Hillary!

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Ted-Strickland-Toledo2C-Ohio-Sen-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton/photo/

I believe that many old and wise people do not believe that only a beautiful speecher with slim experience policy. They had been known about a long history as a fact. I am serious if a weak person could be an election president from Dems that would not beat McCain - the old hero this November.

Bill Clinton was a successful president and built strong economic in the USA for 8 years, while Hillary learnt a lot experiences with various events over the world, also she is able to be a senator in NYC - a famous economic and largest city for two times. Hillary will do better to build economic than Bill's presidency time if she be a nomination of Dems. Only best expect if the Clinton/Obama radical factions will come to the realization that would be big helpful for Dems.

We have seen this movie before;
Hillary Clinton 2008 = Hubert Humphery 1968
Barack Obama 2008 = Kennedy/McCarthy 1968
John McCain 2008 = Richard Nixon 1968

A vote for Hillary is a vote to make the same mistake made back in 1968 -- a destructive convention and general election loss putting GOP in power. We don't have to repeat history folks.

EITHER YOU VOTE HILARY OR YOU VOTE REPUBLICAN McCain

EITHER YOU VOTE HILARY OR YOU VOTE REPUBLICAN McCain

EITHER YOU VOTE HILARY OR YOU VOTE REPUBLICAN McCain

EITHER YOU VOTE HILARY OR YOU VOTE REPUBLICAN McCain

VOTING ' BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA " WOULD DESTROY THE SECURITY & INTEGRITY OF AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE.

paulnolan97 you're fabricating...

feeling the walls closing in?

you're no match.

your facts don't match the players...

readers. check my posts against paulnolan97's

don't just read them.

and question both of us.

people like him deserve jailtime, givittothem

let him feel your pain, give him some....they've been parasitizing AMERICA for too long...

facts aren't jingles. forensic evidence works because of context...

example: who does war profiteering help?

people invested in the companies. James Baker the III, the SAUDIS, Kuwiatis, the bush families, Douglas Feith, Donnie Rumsfeld, the CHeenies, Eliot Abrams, Otto Reich, Adm Poindexter, Mike McConnel, John Negroponte...

hello pruneface rumsfeld, sell any nuclear reactors to North Korea lately ???

mislead CONGRESS much...FOAD.

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and so on

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Like everyone else I don't know what is going to happen in TX or OH tomorrow. But a word of caution about the polls everyone. Telephone pollsters phone the homes of registered voters. They therefore tend to report the views of an older demographic. Young people those with just cells tend not to be included in the polling. My gut feeling (going on crowd sizes etc) is that this could get very nasty for Hillary tomorrow.

Then again I thought the same thing in NH and I was wrong about that result.

You guys just don't get it, do you. If Hillary is your nominee, McCain wins the general election. I know many republicans, myself included, who would vote for Obama. But Billary? Not in this lifetime anyway. Strategically, Billary's negatives preclude her ability to win the general election. Time to wake up folks.

al Qearboyz are bushes boyz...

it's the way it is.

Saudis flew planes into the WTC. Saudis are bush family friends...they dance together and wave swords whilst holding hands

give it up. take AMERICA BAC Kfrom the evil that has infested our marketplace.... and hold scourt as if, it isn't evil.

remove the stain on our integrity by crushing the bush administration and all the lingering elements of it

so that it finds itself being held responsible for the destruction of democracy in a country which used to be held up as an example of what a democracy could become...

not an extension ofa few families overweening greed....crush them.

crush them.

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for every middle class person who manufacturing, telecomm, computer, banking, medical jobs

have been outsourced overseas...

AMERICA doesn't have that salary being spent on goods and services

in_country....because someone overseas is receiving that salary and spending it overseas...

labor savings cost, water lost out of the United States ECONOMY STREAM...

the ECONOMY and INFRASTRUCTURE IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

for example: when HOME DEPOT's CEO retired with $340 MILLION, he not only took that money out of HOME DEPOTS pocket...he made it so more people working for HOME DEPOT didn't spend that money locally on HEALTHCARE, REFRIGERATORS, CARS, COLLEGE and so on...

for every selfish CEO that gets MILLIONS OF DOLLARS by shorting labor....

you, the citizens get a lot fewer people buying big ticket items that you rely on to drive the economy....

how many cars does a billionaire drive at a time ??? how many refrigerators do they use? how many houses do they own ???

which would you rather have AMERICA ??? a million people making 100K or 1000 people making a million each ????

if each family buys just one car, big screen television, a computer, a house ???

putting all of the money in the hands of a few.....makes a lot more people poor...

saving money on labor costs hurts the economy for everyone...

the best country to live in has the best standard of living for the most people, not the worst...saftey, comfort, happiness, quality of life are discernible

by everyone. we don't need to turn AMERICA into a third world country, by making our workers/citizens compete with 3rd world countrys

because the leaders are too stupid to understand that you can't kill the golden goose to get more eggs...

Hans Christen Andersen knows more than George W. bush and the corruption currently taking your country down...

arrest the slide, detain and sue the corruption....

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We have seen this movie before;
Hillary Clinton 2008 = Hubert Humphery 1968
Barack Obama 2008 = Kennedy/McCarthy 1968
John McCain 2008 = Richard Nixon 1968

A vote for Hillary is a vote to make the same mistake made back in 1968 -- a destructive convention and general election loss putting GOP in power. We don't have to repeat history folks.

The republican party has been used as a tool by bushCO and CRONYs, none of whom are working for your future. They are working to fabricate collusion to put money in their pockets at the expense of the NATION. When the nation falls and it is republican partisanism that has aided and abetted that fall, republicans will be held responsible for the lack of insight, and the adherence to jingle type thinking.

Conservatism? With a 3 Trillion dollar budget. NO vetoe for 3 years? $100 a barrel oil?

Please being a republican means "not having to think," in my opinion.

Try voting for the best person, no matter what. Your country needs informed voters not herdable, brainless, animals. Wake up and take responsibility.

Tap dancing in restrooms for dinner is not my idea of a good husband.

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Instead of asking about health insurance, why doesn't Bill Clinton ask: "How many people here know that I signed NAFTA into law?"

what are the MEN AND WOMEN IN IRAQ DYING AND LOSING BODY PARTS FOR??????

OIL and drug trafficking...

AND !!!,

are the United States Soldiers getting a cut, of _t_h_a_t_

____________________ M O N E Y ? _____________________no

no, they are getting their legs blown off, getting medals of honor and waiting two years to be declared disabled as they lose homes that they can't make mortgage payments on.

READ THIS:
Just as the Iran-Contra scandal evolved to include drug smuggling, the Iraq War also is closely related to drug smuggling. While the Bush regime has so far managed to keep the drug smuggling aspects of the war from reaching the media, evidence is beginning to emerge. The evidence comes largely from a former FBI translator turned whistle-blower, Sibel Edmonds. Hired to translate intercepted messages soon after 9/11 this Turkish lady first blew the whistle on the FBI for dragging its feet. She has state emphatically that she has seen documents that prove the Bush administration was fully aware of the terrorist attack before 9/11. While ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN ASHCROFT, has imposed a gag order on her, this courageous lady has only been able to speak in generalized terms. However, she has repeatedly stated that when viewed as an international drug smuggling operation the picture becomes clear.

Sibel Edmonds has provided a huge clue in her generalized statements, a clue that points directly at the BUSH FAMILY and DICK CHENEY. Haliburton the oil services company formerly headed by CHENEY has a long history of involvement in drug smuggling and gunrunning especially through its Brown and Root subsidiary. Brown and Root also has a long history of providing cover for CIA agents. In the late 1970s Brown and Root was implicated in drug smuggling and gunrunning from oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico built by Brown and Root and using ships owned by Brown and Root. In the 1990s Brown and Root was implicated in smuggling heroin to Europe through Russia. The heroin originated in Laos.

The Russian incident surfaced in 1995 after thieves stole sacks of heroin concealed as sugar from a rail container leased by Alfa Echo. Authorities were alerted to the problem after residents of Khabarovsk, a Siberian city became intoxicated from consuming the heroin. Alfa Echo is part of the Russian Alfa group of companies controlled by Mikhail Fridman and Pyotr Aven. The FSB, the Russian equivalent of the FBI firmly proved a solid link between Alfa Tyumen and drug smuggling. The drug smuggling route was further exposed after the Ministry of Internal Affairs raided Alfa Eko buildings and found drugs and other compromising documentation. Under Cheney's leadership of Haliburton, Brown and Root received a taxpayer insured loan through the Export-Import Bank of $292 million dollars for Brown and Root to refurbish a Siberian oil field owned by Alfa Tyumen. The Alfa Bank is also implicated in money laundering for the Colombian cocaine cartels.

THERE IS $80 BILLION IN UNRECORDED PROFITS IN THE FIRST STEP OF AFGHANI OPIUM COLLECTION, refinement...three steps later it could be worth $400 BILLION, in unrecorded profits...

93 PERCENT of the worlds' HEROIN came out of AFGHANISTAN last year...

SEARCH on Gary Webb, CIA, BUSH, Parry, Letter of Understanding...

read how the CIA has an agreement with the DoJ to profit from drug trafficking w/o fear of prosecution...

....bush doesn't represent the United States,

he represents about 1,400 people that are working together to defraud the United States, and the rest of the world...the stinking mess that is left when they are gone

will be yours to clean up

unless you jail and sue them...

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Are you nostalgic for the 90s?

Remember the 90s? Those good old days of the Clinton presidency? When Hillary stood by her man.

It's true that the horrors of this last Bush administration could make any previous president look like a national hero.

But with the former president's wife demanding that she's entitled to the Democratic National Committee's coronation of her candidacy, imagining the duo back in the White House is really unsettling.

Given the international embarrassment her husband caused, most Americans would probably prefer to forget his scandal-ridden administration.

The resulting media brouhaha distracted the citizenry while Clinton presided over corporations consolidating power, NAFTA disenfranchising American workers and the first World Trade Center attack.

After two decades of Bush-Clinton-Bush, America needs a president who can lead with integrity and repair our reputation around the world. Why does anyone imagine that another Clinton in the White House could accomplish this?

The former president has a history of indiscretions. Most Americans have made their peace with the costs of his poor judgment. But why should we think that he's suddenly changed? Did being impeached and disbarred have a reforming effect?

When President Clinton's intimate relationship with a White House intern became public, he refused to resign. And Hillary stood by her man, possibly enabling him to hang on to his position. But how did this benefit the country? Was America their first and foremost concern? Or was the Clinton Machine's political power paramount?

Recently, Senator Clinton demanded that a cable newscaster be fired for a slightly off-color remark he made about her daughter. Where was her moral outrage when her husband was discovered fooling around with a woman young enough to be their daughter?

Frankly, that was "news" I could have done without. And it dragged on for years!

Ever wonder how much investigating the shady side of the Clintons cost American taxpayers? Millions! This is some pretty pricey baggage the Clintons are dragging behind them.

What would have happened if Bill Clinton had resigned?

Al Gore would have been our president! Yeah, imagine the progress America might have made with a future Nobel Peace Prize Laureate as our president. But Bill's resignation would have hurt her chances for a seat in the Senate and a presidential run.

Hillary Clinton says she knows how to fight the Republicans, and that she'll be ready on "day one" to continue doing more of the same. Many have pointed to the obvious: this will only perpetuate the partisan politics that has prevented progress on the very critical issues facing the American people.

Hillary is a strong, remarkable woman. Actually, she's a politician who I'd like to see follow through on her promises, but in the Senate.

America is voting for change. It's a grass roots phenomenon--a movement. Will she be strong enough to step aside in this race for the good of the country? Will she make the hard choice and do the best thing for America?

I like happy endings. I want her to redeem herself by recognizing the leadership that Barack Obama offers and to start helping him succeed.

We the people don't need a president who knows how to box or one so polarizing their name on the ballot could ensure another hawkish Republican is installed in the office.

We need strong, principled leaders who will do what's best for our country. We really can't wait.

N.Logsdon Mandelkorn

Published on Tuesday, February 4, 2003 by the Prince George's Journal (Maryland)

Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the WTC, Dulles and United

.......The suite in which Marvin Bush was annually re-elected, according to public records, is located in the Watergate in space leased to the Saudi government. The company now holds shareholder meetings in space leased by the Kuwaiti government there. The White House has not responded to various requests for comment.

Speaking of the Watergate, Riggs National Bank, where Saudi Princess Al-Faisal had her ``Saudi money trail" bank account, has as one of its executives Jonathan Bush, an uncle of the president. The public has not learned whether Riggs - which services 95 percent of Washington's foreign embassies - will be turning over records relating to Saudi finance.

Meanwhile, Bush has nominated William H. Donaldson to head the Securities and Exchange Commission. Donaldson, a longtime Bush family friend, was a Yale classmate of Jonathan Bush.

On the very day of the tragic space shuttle crash, the government appointed an independent investigative panel, and rightly so. Why didn't it do the same on Sept. 12, 2001?

Actually the supers should vote as their state went, not the accumulated total of other states.

Hillary should get all supers from every state she won, Barack likewise. That is not overriding the will of the people, that is abiding by the will of the people.

Now I understand supers won't do that, but those that are undecided should reflect their state voters' choice.

Winning every big state except Obama's IL and just splitting the pledged delegate count with him is idiotic. What's the point of having primaries, to have it determined by red state caucuses? Give me a break.

This primary mess needs to be totally rethought, includung keeping Republicans from mucking with determining who they want to face in the general)

I'm behind you all the way, Hillary!

Hillary '08

Give Up Hillary
You're only there because of Bill
Obama is the real democrat

Hillary Clinton 2008 = Hubert Humphery 1968

John McCain 2008 = Richard Nixon 1968

Vote for Hillary is a vote for more years of war. Possible impeachment of McCain later on for his wacked out personality. Democrats go back into the abyss for 6-8 years.

Even if Barack Hussein Obama has the judgment to be president, the US and the people would be in danger if there is an oversight against Al Queda and terrorist or a nuclear attack. The US President must not have an oversight at all lest something worse than 9/11 happen again.

We must remember that he is borned of a Black Kenyan Muslim father and has an Indonesian Muslim step father. Being borned a muslim even though he has gone to church for 20 years does not make him any unmuslim unless he he has renounce his muslim religion which he did not.

That would be scary and dangerous if Barack Hussein Obama is elected president as he would be holding the button to the nuclear arsenal.

Is it an intentional oversight because its conflict with his muslim religion or a genuine oversight which could destroyed the country.

As chairman of an oversight committee charged with the force fighting al-Qaida in Afghanistan, he is only interested in running for president and not for the SECURITY OF THE COUNTRY & PEOPLE.

Would you want such a person such as Barack Hussein Obama who only has self interest at heart for a President.

Irrational, self interest, sleeping on the job (oversight),immature and conflict of interest ( being muslim & black)would best decribe Barack Hussein Obama.

Hillary Clinton IS A MATURE & RATIONAL person and will never be too busy to defend the country national security.

The election in Ohio is about the economy, and the voters should prep themselves with a few facts about the Clinton economic record. Does America really want Clinton style Socialism? Unfortunately it's essential to preempt any Clinton speech with a hefty dose of truth serum. In the latest debate, Hillary regurgitated her familiar mantra that she would veto the falsely maligned Bush taxcuts which resuscitated the U.S. economy from the inherited Clinton recession; but, which Hillary says favor only the rich. That tired old populist ploy of "soak the rich". However , a brief review of IRS statistics related to post-Bush tax cut revenues reveals exactly the opposite. Specifically, the share of individual income taxes paid by the bottom 40% of American taxpayers, as a result of expanded child tax credits and earner income tax credits, was reduced from 0% to a -4%; and, took another ten million low income Americans completely off of the tax roles. That is, a very significant four(4) % decrease. On the other end of the scale, the tax burden on the top 20% of income earners, the so-called rich, increased to a full 85% of the total tax burden. For example a Single Individual making 30K paid $8400 in taxes under Clinton; under Bush $4500. A married couple making 60K: under Clinton $16,800, under Bush $9000. So Hillaryspeak, an economic strategy that left our Nation in a RECESSION on the Clinton's departure from the White House, would damage the poor more then any other group. One can summarize this quite simply by noting that IF Hillary's Marxist philosophies of soaking the rich were valid, Communist societies throughout the world would be exorbitantly wealthy, in lieu of economic basket cases a' la Castro's Cuba. The same can be said of her forced plan for Socialized Medicine. A program which is failing miserably in such Nations as Canada and the United Kingdom. Canada, as just one example, is now experiencing a dramatic shortfall in physicians. The American electorate should carefully evaluate the Marxist rhetoric coming from the Hillary campaign and her minions. Greg Neubeck

We dont need moron fighters who drag the party into a ditch like Bush dragged the nation fighting for national security. Hillary is a fighter without a mind or a means to her dream if she has any. She couldnt pass health care, and she never picked up the red phone. She better have a better answer than give me another pillow.

Hillary reminds me of Hubert Humphery. He didnt care how much he damaged the party in 1968 to get the nomination. The net result is we got Nixon. Hillary should be on John McCain's payroll, he should pay her to keep fighting because if she gets the nomination its worthless. Close but no cigar is still a loss. Ask Hubert H god rest his soul.

actually joy2,

since you're a repulsive scammer your question isn't relevant or truthful....

you're simply framing a lie with particles that seem like they are faintly true...

what is the truth ????

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actually having lived and worked in several professions and areas in the United States... East Coast, West Coast and Middle America as well as the South...

I would say that

there are multiple things going on....simultaneously.

1. for the first time in the recent history of our nation, a college education is not a guarantee of a decent job.....there is a shortage of decent jobs outside of Washington D.C.

there is not the same life to aspire to that was available easily to everyone of any segment of society during the 70's

a quick step out of poverty and into a manufacturing job....for anyone that wanted one.

2. Republican CON jobs have eliminated a lot of intelligence, in the community, by training people, through a propagandized MSM

for example: most of television and radio are owned by 6 companies....they put out the same message.

for example: Rupert Murdoch, an Australian Billionaire, and good friend of George W. Bush and Company...just bought the Wallstreet Journal...he first attempted media takeovers a few years back...

ClearChannel used to own the bulk of radio...in the United States...they have created several dummy organizations to hide their ownership at this point. There are conglomerates buying up local newspapers and putting out a single stream of information.... The local / quirky "Village Voices," of America have been bought up...

MSM LIEs and HOMOGINIZEs....SELL SPIN....people don't know what to think...

many have quit listening as they did in Russia...when Pravda was the MSM of state..

3. Additionally, PEOPLE HAVE LESS LEISURE....without leisure people don't keep up with non essentials.

When I was growing up my dad watched television and read the newspaper....he was home by 5:00 PM and we ate and he watched the news and read the papers...he was literate, and reporters didn't lie about what was going on in order to get paid.

HOW ABOUT AN EXAMPLE OF DISINFORMATION ???

example: the occupation of IRAQ is to control a scarce resource....not for the United States, but because bush and his family friends make big money out of using the United States MILITARY as a business tool....

BushCO and CRONYs was too dumb to be able to cut a deal.

How much of the media is covering that ???

I could make the point by myself in an open forum with Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilley arrayed against me....using nothing more than obvious points.

9/11 ??? fabrication....how do I know ???

how the XXXX would we have 25 MILLION _ILLEGALS_ IN_COUNTRY if we had been attacked....

they would have had the country sewn up tight...

all they had was visual displays of "readiness," there was no real readiness and not further false flag attacks either....

AMERICANS have been dumbed down to take advantage of them.

....and you the media have helped to achieve that because your all flaming cowards....

not one of you has called the occupation of iraq

an occupation.

You think that someone braver than yourselves should do it??? Why ?

because you're XXXXies ??? apparently.

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She's a fighter and I would rather be in the trenches with a fighter than a dreamer.

Give'em hell, Hil.

http://strictlyanecdotal.com

I dont want a fighter. We have had fighter presidents for the past 16 years and we are in a big time mess. Another fighter and we may not have a nation left. We need someone who can cross bounds. That is not Hillary.

Other than happy talk, whining and attacking BHO, what else can the witch possibly do? If she wins, I vote for McCain. She has convinced me that she is nothing but a divisive, ambitious shrew willing to play a sum-zero game. Reminds me of my ex-wife. I hope she gets what she deserves.

P.S. -- you sure seem pre-occupied with homosexual behavior -- why is that?

To Readers from Foreign Lands:

Yes, gentle reader, what you have been reading is indeed what passes for political discourse in the United States. But you must understand that we do not have a parliamentary system as does every other democracy in the world. In our system, we elect an Absolute Monarch (called the President) every four years. Our voters are therefore extremely passionate about the next Investiture and this often leads to rhetorical excess.

Our system of government also explains why the current Monarch is able to rule for years after 67% of the citizens disapprove of him. In your democracies, of course, a No Confidence vote would have dispatched him to the ash heap long ago. You must also understand that our Two Parties are unusual but extremely important to our national mythology. Both are corporate creatures, but the Two Parties give us the illusion of choice. Illusion is very important to America.

So be patient and try to think kindly of us, even though our politics and policies must often appear as childish or altogether unhinged. We are not an evil people, although our Monarchs sometime do evil things.

a_bigone:

Unless you can point to a different ELECTED official, after 2009, there will be no "Bush-family people" in office -- the Democrats have controlled Congress for a while now -- if they retain control, and STILL can't fix all of your alleged abuses, why isn't that the Democrats' fault?

"....Bill Clinton asked those in his audiences to raise their hands if they knew someone without health insurance." Yes, Bill. I went without health insurance for three years while you were in office. (until I reached Medicare age.) It was scary. I blame your wife for not getting something, ANYTHING done...but she failed miserably. United Healthcare remained free to cancel individual policies because they weren't profitable enough. People wouldn't buy insurance for any price if they were over 60, or had had previous health problems. I figure, if the Clintons couldn't get healthcare reform while Bill was president and they had a Dem majority in congress, why would anyone believe Hillary would get it done now?

On January 26, George W. Bush called on Guckert/Gannon at one of Bush's rare press conferences, "bypassing dozens of far more experienced reporters" according to Joe Strupp of Editor & Publisher.

I guess that depends on the meaning of "experienced."

This was not Guckert/Gannon's first time near Bush. Guckert/Gannon was at other Bush press conferences and was called on by Bush once before. Moreover, Guckert/Gannon went to the White House nearly every day for nearly 2 years. Each time he went, he got specific permission from Scott McClellan's White House Press Office. And Guckert/Gannon went to Bush's White House Christmas Party.

How did a $200/hour gay male prostitute get near George W. Bush nearly every day for 2 years?

Don't tell me the Secret Service didn't know Guckert/Gannon's background. It took amateur bloggers at DailyKos about 5 minutes to find out Gannon owned male prostitution websites, and just two weeks for Aravosis to find out he was a $200/hour prostitute. I guarantee Scott McClellan and other top White House officials knew exactly who Guckert/Gannon was. According to RawStory.com, McClellan himself has been spotted at gay bars.

So how will the American people learn the sordid truth about Bush, the White House, and Guckert?

The Lying Right-Wing Media (LRWM) won't ask the question. According to those brave News Hounds who watch FOX so we won't have to, Gannon/Guckert's name has never even been mentioned on FOX [4]. Just imagine the wall-to-wall coverage on FOX if this had happened in the CLINTON White House!

But we'll ask it - and we'll keep asking it until we get the truth.

Did George W. Bush - and/or other top White House officials - have sexual relations with that man, James Guckert?

Lest you think this is an absurd question, I'll refer you to the widespread rumors that Bush had a long-term sexual relationship with his Ambassador to Poland ("don't forget Poland!"), former Yale classmate and Knoxville Mayor Victor Ashe [5]. As with every other Bush scandal (AWOL, Bulgegate, Harken Energy, etc.), the Victor Ashe scandal has been blacked out by the LRWM.

SEARCH on a few of these

GEORGE W. Bulgegate, Harken Energy, the Victor Ashe scandal

his people are posting here tonight: garden_nell, dcwsano, Cali-Gram, Dahveed1, dunnhaupt

compare their lack of information whilst long on opinions

with the exception of Cali-Gram she's outright lying...

wantto dance Cali-Gram I got a few minutes.

I worked in D.C., as someone on the inside you're all spin and slant

not truth.

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Hillary will be fine, I believe.

LOOK AT THE LAST PARAGRAPH...

and DO A SEARCH on

BUSH, Walker, MONEY LAUNDERING

In 1953, Bush got money from Brown Brothers Harriman and, with partners Hugh and Bill Liedtke, formed Zapata Petroleum. By the late 1950s they were millionaires. Bush bought subsidiary Zapata Off-Shore from his partners and went into business on his own in 1954. By 1958, the new company was drilling on the Cay Sal Bank in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico. These islands had been leased to Nixon supporter and CIA contractor Howard Hughes the previous year and were later used as a base for CIA raids on Cuba. The CIA was using companies like Zapata to stage and supply secret missions attacking Fidel Castro's Cuban government in advance of the Bay of Pigs invasion. The CIA's codename for that invasion was "Operation Zapata." In 1981, all Securities and Exchange Commission filings for Zapata Off-Shore between 1960 and 1966 were destroyed. In other words, the year Bush became vice president, important records detailing his years at his drilling company disappeared. In 1969, Zapata bought the United Fruit Company of Boston, another company with strong CIA connections.

Career: Political leader. Received the Distinguished Flying Cross for Bravery during World War II; U.S. congressman from Texas (1966-1970), ambassador to the United Nations (1971-1974); Special Envoy to China (1974-1975); Republican National Chairman (1975-1976); Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director (1976-1977); vice president of the U.S. (1981-1989); president of the U.S. (1989-1993).

In 1964, Bush campaigned against the Civil Rights Act. He lost that election but was elected to Congress in 1966 and again in 1968. He was defeated in the race for Senate by Democrat Lloyd Bentsen in 1970.

He served as Gerald Ford's Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) from November 1975 to January 1977. As head the CIA, Bush was answerable only to President Ford. He was supposedly the first CIA "outsider" to hold the agency's top position. During his tenure as DCI he maintained a policy of disinformation and secrecy, despite a public show of cooperation with congressional investigations of CIA abuses such as assassination plots using Mafia hit men. In September 1976, Chilean dissident leader Orlando Letelier was assassinated in Washington D.C. by agents of DINA, Chile's secret police. The CIA knew of such plots, and the two assassins entered the U.S. using fake Paraguayan passports. But the FBI was kept in the dark about this information.

In 1979, the year before he campaigned for the Republican nomination for president, Bush claimed a nuclear war was winnable. Ronald Reagan won the 1980 nomination and chose Bush as his running mate. As vice president, Bush cast three tie-breaking votes to renew chemical weapons production, supported sale of missiles to "terrorist" Iran and the illegal arming of the Nicaraguan contras and other paramilitary groups he called "freedom fighters.

He also chaired The Presidential Task Force on Deregulation which, according to Mary Fricker in her book Inside Job, "set the tone" for bank deregulation which led to the savings and loan financial disaster of the 1980s.

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but this is "the past," so it has no merit....

just like Global Warming is a myth, and Iraq is not in occupation simply to steal it's oil

and AFGHANISTAN is not a drug state that supplied 93 PERCENT of the WORLD's HEROIN LAST YEAR,

with bush family members sharing in the profits....

right? Obama, mr. big pants knows it is not relevant right ???

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so you think their ilk will magically vanish when 09 comes....

that's what you'd like the world to think isn't it???

how long is the funding for Halliburton, Blackwater, Bechtel, KBR, DynCorp, Carlyle Group good for????

Jake D?

all of a sudden all of the bush family people who have their snouts in the trough are just gonna disappear ???

the ambassadour to the UN?

DHS, the National Intelligence agency...both units created from whole cloth by George W. Bush to subvert the rights of AMERICANS...the Patriot Act

the Supreme Court Justices????

really, that all disappears next year JakeD ????

are you trying to sell the rubes something Jake D.
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The screeching old bag sure has got air! Any Democrat that votes for Clinton actively is contributing to electing John "four more years of Bush" McCain!

Horror scenario: Hillary wins Ohio, Obama wins Texas, cancelling each other out. No decisive win. Hillary refuses to quit, goes on and on and on slinging mud at Obama, trying various tricks like getting Florida counted, pressuring superdelegates, and destroying the party, because it's all about me, me, me! She will claw her way by tooth and nail unless they drag her off the stage kicking and screaming. Nobody wants that for President! So McCain wins in November.

No, I don't wonder about that, but I do wonder if you think Lott or Bush are running for re-election this year? Quick, what years is it?

Politics would never be a career choice for me. I don't enjoy being forced to "play dirty", and up until this point in my life, I was someone who "voted Democrat" I kept my opinions to myself, because I didn't like disagreements. This time, I find that I can't keep my mouth shut. I have gotten bolder in defending what I believe in, and found how easy it is to speak one's mind when one doesn't have a face-to-face confrontation. My daughter has encouraged me to speak up, to "fight with what I write" for what I believe is " right". To set an example for my grandchildren and speak up when I sense injustice.
There is so very much at stake in electing the next president, and the number one priority should be QUALIFICATIONS. I wish That Hillary fans would read up on the Clinton history, before accepting the myth that Hillary has the most "experience" and that you will get Bill tossed in on the ticket. I regard the Clintons as a " two-fer" because that is how "they" have been campaigning. Hillary claims that she was co-president when Bill was POTUS, says that counts for "experience" . Okay, that means play the game/share the fame/share the blame: Hillary is fifty-percent responsible for the blame. Can't pick out the plums and toss the pits. This makes them "the Clintons" that were in the W/H as a "team" and are now running for a third term as a "team. Use your good unbiased sound judgment, and honestly review the Clintons' enormous history of wrongdoing. If that still doesn't convince you that it is a mistake to support "the Clintons", just imagine that Hillary "did manage" to get the Democratic nomination. The GOP can't wait to attack "the Clintons" with no holds barred. The Clintons will lose, because their luck is running out, too many hidden agendas. It is undeniable and unreasonable to expect that the Clintons will be allowed a third term as POTUS. The GOP wants to be pitted against the Clintons; they've been collecting evidence for years. The political toilet hasn't been thrown yet, and the contents are filling up, waiting, waiting, waiting, and splat: "it" will hit the fan.
With all due respect, it's a free country, and you can vote for whom you choose. However, Americans have shed their blood, their body parts, and their all, to defend this country. The "war against terrorism" should have begun during the early years of the eight years of Clinton tenure. The first terrorist attack on the bombing at the WTC in February 1993, should have been a red alert. In 1994, Bill Clinton hushed up a federal report that warned of possible terrorist strikes, including how hijackers could use airliners to hit landmarks such as the White House or Pentagon. His reactions after receiving such frightening reports were to keep quiet because he didn't want to cause panic. (Hillary must have been aware of this threat.) Terrorism was not high on the Clintons "to do" and "most urgent" lists. It's too late to say that Clinton should have appointed experts to track, report, share data, and respond to acts of terrorism. During the Clinton tenure, Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda continued their attacks through October 2000. The statistics: 319 innocent Americans were killed and more than 6,200 were injured during the Clinton's tenure in the White House. The Clintons failed, they failed our country, they failed our military, and they failed the rest of the innocent victims worldwide. They were negligent, immersed in their own dramas, and ignored repeated warnings about bin Laden, and the continuously growing Al Qaeda band of terrorists. The Clintons missed several opportunities to capture bin Laden. I am not trying to create horrible rumors, these are easily verified facts. History cannot be re-written, but its harsh undeniable lessons should be remembered.
I fail to comprehend how anyone, after verifying the above information, can still want the Clintons back in the White House. The Republicans know that if it ends up McCain versus Obama, that Obama will win. That is why Barack Obama is under fire, and yes, they've attempted to take him down, both the GOP and the Clintons.
Barack Obama is extremely capable of serving as POTUS. He is extremely intelligent, honest, has integrity, and displays concern for all people. He has the ability to communicate, work with and obtain agreement from those with different views. I wish more people would ignore the "race" objections or "inexperienced" accusations that they have set up, and see that Barack Obama offers us an opportunity to get rid of the "good old Boy" politics. No payback nominations, the positions will meet different criteria: who is the most qualified gets the job. To govern with transparency, and to let us, the people have a say in how government spends "our money". BTW: I am not black, I am female, retired and I can still buy milk for my cereal. I just want our broken country to come together, and race or gender should not govern us. I have already voted for Obama, I believe that with him as POTUS, we can make a better world for our families, and ourselves. I would not have "wasted" my time writing this if I did not believe, from my heart, that we have to change this country, and can, if we work together.

JakeD, what does Trent Lott have to do with Obama or Hillary Clinton...

well it's called hypocrisy JakeD.

ever wonder why the black folk from New Orelans are still parked in a trailer camp in Baton Rouge Louisiana

years after Katrina ????

two things realestate and votes....

George W. is our first gay president, and yet he used homophobia as a tool to control the rubes with...

education is more important than events. want the people to make educated choices, tell them the truth so that they can see the caliber of the people that are

mis leading them, filling them with DISS information...

the republicans filth is unimagineable.....showing people the truth helps them to vote in a concious way....

Trent Lott is George W's good friend....

George W. and Trent Lott and some of insider washington work together in conspiracy/collusion/influence peddling...

do you know the parable of the 3 blind men and the elephant ???

one says the elephant is like a rope, he had alhold of the tail

one says the elephant is like a tree, he had ahold of a leg

one says the elephant is like a large snake, he had ahold of the trunk

AMERICANs have been misled for so long that they are like blind men, that need to be shown what the repulsivescammers look like.

thanks so much.

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The notion that the federal gummint can "lift people up" is poppycock. What's more, Hillary has been carrying water for the banking industry for years. Her crocodile tears (and Obama's, for that matter) won't bring back a single industrial job.

All the whining of the victims and the promises of politicians to take care of them--so much hot air.

Oh and my the way in case anyone wants to know Rush Limbaugh now says on his daily radio show that he wants ALL the repukes to vote for Hilliary*breck girl* so that she will"Still be here after tomorro and the democrates will self implode eachother. If that isn,t dirty politics I don,t know what else it will take, personally I hope old fat limaugh meets with disapointment.

Any young people or men supporting Hillary are probably Rush Limbaugh listeners come to try to undermine the chances of the Democratic Party.

Rush Limbaugh is asking all his right wing nut supporters to vote for Hillary.

Why? 1) She would be easy to beat if she she get the nomination; and 2) Even if Obama gets the nomination, by keeping the race going she continues to attack Obama and make a Republican victory more likely.

So Hillary supporters, remember Tuesday when you vote that the people who are voting for Hillary mainly consist of aging feminists, right-wing Limbaugh-heads trying to throw a monkey wrench into the Democratic Party, and the nut cases who believe Obama is a Muslim.

Enough, Hillary, enough. Go home!

Clinton has never apologized for screwing up health care the first time and for voting for the Iraq war. She messed with a prime democratic issue only to abandon it like an orphan as her husband remained president. She voted for the war resolution only to deny its her baby.

Hilliary and Bill stand behind NAFTA and CAFTA:
l evil twins. CAFTA "Central Ameician farmers will be unable to compete against highly subsidized production in the U.S. n elsewhere in the developed world not to mention the poverty it will bring to generations of farmers who has done a specilized way for their communities without the ruin of their cultural heritage and imposition into their homeland by which larger companies begin to move into their communities employing many of the residents, but also polluting the land and putting local farmers out of business... the end result is some one will pay, this result that is ignored by those who still haven,t been affected but will in the near future as what *oil* has done, leaving in its wake, levels of increased job losseses ,poverty begets desparate measures that end in more crime. But Corporate Bigwigs don,t mind the drawing of blood..so long as it doesn,t touch home, in their clean steril environments.

dcwsano:

Are the Hillary supporters in THIS picture "young" enough for you?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/02/america/campaign.php

a_bigone (I will try one last time):

What does Sen. Lott have to do with this thread, about Clinton or Obama?

on your list of congressional endorsements for clinton... 25 of the 91 are from NY!

LOL

lydgate:

Why do you think Obama, rather than Hillary, can beat McCain in November? In the latest poll I saw, McCain runs ahead of Obama on every issue except health care -- he has a 13-point advantage on Iraq and a 37-point lead on terrorism in general -- he even does better on managing the economy vs. Obama.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJ2.0k269dY0&refer=home

it's interesting isn't it????

the rot in the United States ECONOMY, from sending all of our money into war profiteers pockets

has extended to NORTHERN VIRGINIA
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WP Article: "Foreclosure Auctioneer's Lonely Task,"
By Nick Miroff
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 22, 2008

"Lot of interest out here this morning," Crossley muttered. No one showed up for the auction of 7 homes that were in foreclosure.

It wasn't always such a lonely job. When Crossley became an auctioneer two years ago for Purcellville-based Nectar Projects, foreclosure sales were few, and they would regularly draw packs of investors armed with cash and eager to bid. Now it's rare for anyone to show up. In the past three months, Crossley has conducted auctions on some 200 properties in Northern Virginia, and he has sold one.

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what does that mean, relative to the discussion regarding Obama and Hillary ???

that the people who caused this, currently deadlocking Congress and running things for their private benefit in WASHINGTON through the EXECUTIVE BRANCH...

are trying to keep things status quo, maintain their grip on the cash flow...

not knowing what is going on in WASHINGTON, and saying that those who want to bring up specific examples _OF_THAT_ are talking about the past scares me.

I see a junior congressman, buying into and using what the repulsive scammers are selling as a way of getting elected

w/o regard to what his election will mean to the people.

you want to know what will happen? look at what happened to Jimmy Carter.

If we had acted 30 years ago on his very good ideas, there would be no energy problem, probably greenhouse gases would be under control and our economy would still be booming and manufacturing would still be in_country...

but Carter was backstabbed, because he wanted to "play fair,"

after Nixon, everyone wanted someone that would "play fair,"

unfortunately, Jimmy didn't know how to make sure the bullies played fair as well...

do I need to paint a picture ????

these guys don't "play fair,"

they have male prostitutes spend the night at the white house and use homophobia to herd the gomers...

they're trying to get you to back the Hubert Humphrey of the Democratic pack...

read up on it.

.....learn to recognize the perps, like maxmcgloin

it's your country, put _them_ in jail, attach their properties and sue them into oblivion

.thanks so much.

.

There is rumor going around that Obama was caught having sex with a minor a few years ago. A 14 year old Jewish boy. Anyone knows anything about this? I wonder why no one pays any attention to the negative things about Obama. Is it true that he is involved in some type of scam to avoid paying taxes? Why don't these things get more publicity, I was supporting him, but after his wife said she's not proud to be an American, I am voting for Hillary. She also said that in America Black people are abused and can get kill for anything. And this is who we want as the first family of this country, this is twisted.

Thank you, scotiscoti. Wish more people had their eye on the ball (winning in November), rather than letting the Clintons tear the Democratic Party apart.

Rosa2:

I believe several people have already pointed that out to "the man in black" : )

P.S. to everyone else: Hillary DIANE Clinton will win in Ohio -- mark my words!!!

To "the man in black" I think you got a bit confused .. those 91 names you posted under Senate votes for Clinton, Ummmmm several of them are not in the senate. Now here is how you do it... 50 states X 2 senators each, ( are you doing the math?) = 100 and you claim 91 dems and repubs are supporting Clinton. You have posted a huge error ridden post.

Everyday McCain gets stronger. The irony of the Clintons waging this dirty campaign if they win the nomination not only will they have broken the party but they will have lowered the bar so far that when the McCain, Fox and Republician 527s unleash the dogs of war they will have no moral position to argue against the dirty tactics.

The Clintons have a fund raisers of their own in jail and a mountain of scandals to dig into for the media and the opposition. The fact that the Obama campaign has taken the high road willbecome obvious when senator Clinton is taken apart by the opposition.

Who will Hillary and Bill blame when they lose the General election?

so why aren't republicans

patriotic?

.because they are just _U_S_E_R_S_ as a way of life...

no wonder they are the "haves and have mores"

they have taken _your_ jobs and shipped them overseas

and are busy selling AMERICA out from underneath of you

and you AMERICANS have sold your country for three magic beans with the

labels "homophobia," "patriotic," and "babykillers," written on them with gold lettering....whilst ignoring the fact that

babys men women and children are being killed in IRAQ, Ecuador, Afghanistan, Mexico, Venezuela and so on with your dolleros....

you are paying BIG OIL's development costs by handing over IRAQ to them....

what you should tell the current crop of conspirators is pay my turn...

attach their properties and sue them into oblivion.

.

Hillary full of WHAT!?

WHY IS THE WASHINGTON POST NOT COVERING THE REVELATION OF OBAMA'S DOUBLE GAME WITH THE CANADIANS ABOUT NAFTA?

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THE NEWSPAPER SHOULD MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE LESS PARTIAL IN THIS CONTEST. PLEASE, WE THE READERS DEMAND MORE.

SINCERELY

Voice of the White House February 28, 2005
TBR News.org February 28, 2005

"An absolute non-issue with the American print and TV media is the control by very powerful gays of the top policy levels of the White House. Growingly pointed comments inside the Beltway social clubs, homes and watering places about Karl Rove's "good friend" 'Jeff Gannon' are being very thoroughly ignored by the mainline press.

There are two reasons for this crashing silence. One is the fact that a large number of powerful and wealthy Republicans are gay and do not want their wives and children to discover that they put on leather underwear and spend their spare time at the Eagle over on New York Avenue or getting rough trade action at the Crew Club. Fat Karl Rove was seen by one of my people entering a private homosexual orgy at a five-star Washington hotel over the Mid-Atlantic Leather (MAL) weekend last year. All the self-hating loyal Republican gays at the no-pants party, many of them Senatorial aides and military types, of course pretended they didn't recognize him, and who can blame them - imagine how repulsive Fat Karl must look without his clothes. The report that came back was that Fat Karl greatly enjoyed the supervision of a certain hairy 350-lb. Leather Dominator, who had won the Miss Virginia Daddy Bear title at the MAL festivities.

Karl used hang out at JR's, which is on 17th between P&S, before he became so well-known. This is a "respectable" gay bar for discreet people who do not wear mesh panties, high-heeled pumps and wear terrible wigs. How many people know about these activities? In Washington, a hell of a lot of the prominent. But very few of them dare to open their mouths because of their own small problems.

.small problems.

seems like you all have small problems.

what's that about neh!?

wann aknow something? it's over.

so bdicke1519

how about refuting me???

want to step up to the plate???

I have a couple of minutes.

come out come out whereever you are? are you in the closet with George W. and Karl Rove

playing hide the salaami....

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For the people who think Hillary Clinton feel their pain and falling for a well written speeches; ask your self why as a Senator did she not act on the issues that caused you the pain. Hillary Clinton like George Bush will feel your pain as long as it takes for her to try to become President. See her tax returns and you will understand why she was able to contribute $5M dollars to her own campaign. If she felt your pain, why haven't she donated or given cars, houses, money to people that are in pain like Oprah. Don't be fooled by her tears, mood swings or moments of intent display of softness; she is of the same cloth wooven by the politics of promise to the midclass and obeying big business and overseas interest.

grow up children.

after Nixon, no one wanted anyone that looked like a politician.

after the corrpution of the current administration, Tricky Dick is looking pretty good....John Dean, Nixon's IMPEACHMENT LAWYER, said George W. Bush deserves IMPEACHMENT more than Nixon...

after Nixon people were disturbed about anyone and anything that "seemed like it was part of the system,"

So they voted for Jimmy Carter. Honest, intelligent, hard working, forthright and not capable of holding his own against people who didn't fight fair.

Incompetent??? Hardly, he gained a peace accord most though impossible. His Habitat for Humanity is heart work at it's finest.

Jimmy Carter expected that he would be able to wield the Presidency. He didn't understand:

He's just visiting here.

This is _their_ hometown, INSIDER WASHINGTON _they_ run things...

he had to go along, or outsmart them. He did neither,

and they railroaded him.....but they killed JFK, so maybe he didn't do too badly.

.

Bill Clinton survived 8 years of them trying to throw up a roadblock on his presidency....didn't he ???

and took us from a record-high-deficit to a full General Fund.

And didn't let them talk him into attacking IRAQ in 1998....even though they killed 200 Marines to put the pressure on.

SEARCH ON PNAC Letter to Clinton, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, James Baker III

it's your past and your present.

All you Clintonistas who tried the Canadian/NAFTA thing, I got a little something for you; courtesy of the Canadian Star by way of nytimes.com:

23. March 3rd,
2008
5:31 pm
The Canadian government backs away from the spurious NAFTA memo.

http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/308919

This was a feeble attempt to help out the Republican party, by the right wing Canadian government. And Hillary tried to use it too.
Go O!"
-- Posted by He, Hussein, who has been forbidden from placing jokes in this Caucus space!

So go check the story out for yourselves, unless you want to follow your Clinton leader into the usual lies from the dark side.

I'm feelin' it! Hillary Clinton will SHOCK the world!! She won't just win Rhode Island...
She will win Ohio!!!
She will win Texas!!

(She'll only net 7 delegates and it will be more than reversed when Wyoming and Mississippi vote within a week, but hey...spin is spin.)

Hillary (about her campaign momentum in recent days) "I'm just getting warmed up!"

Lovely. Thirty-five years of "experience" and yet she needs warming up on the most important campaign of her career? So much for being ready on day one.

The people on this board are mostly negative and not very issue-oriented, basically just seeing who can be the most crude - doesn't sound too much like the Obama people are embracing Obama's supposed 'Unity," "Change," and "Hope" rhetoric that he was spewing all over the campaign trail. gw.

Hillary Clinton voters are those females looking to broaden their gains by breaking through the glass ceiling; and, White Americans who prefer seeing an Afro-American in the kitchen of the WhiteHouse and not running the Whitehouse. It doen't matter how articulate or his compassion that he has for the American people; it is that mentality of America that have in slaved peoples minds to believe they can not reach a h