The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

God help us if that happens. Oh my bad they took him out.

My sister told me 2 people can be president at the same time. do you think thats what Bill & Hillary have in mind.....so whoever their vice president is doesn't have a chance unless the both of them were gone.....

Too cute, trying to tar Hillary with Spitzer's sexual shenanigans. What ever will you do when the next big Obama scandal breaks? It's been percolating on "The Internets" and now the Republicans are getting ready to dump it on the open market. Remember, the sauce you prepare for the goose just might end up drenching the gander instead.

Didi I get this right? An exert from the article:

"Spitzer has been a bad-luck charm for Hillary Clinton to this point. His illegal immigrant driver's license proposal arguably became the first time she was thrown off her stride in this campaign. Fairly or not, her muddled answer at a debate in Philadelphia about whether she supported it or not played into a narrative promoted by her opponents that she is more about calculation than principle. That led to a bad patch for her that lasted all the way through the Iowa caucuses. Her advisers pinpoint that inartful two-minute answer as the moment when the race turned".

"Now Spitzer may throw her off stride again at a moment she needs to keep her momentum going. And on top of that, even if he does spare her by resigning soon, that has a cost too -- one fewer superdelegate for her at the convention".

"...a narrative promoted by her opponents that she is more about calculation than principle". And what has Hillary done to offset this belief? She has used plenty of tactics, but they ALL lead to the same label--that Clinton will do ANYTHING to win. And what a reminiscent scene, a wife standing by her politically powerful husband caught in infidelity! And you wonder why much of the American population doesn't want to relive the Clinton years.

Hillary said Spitzer's licenses-for-illegals proposal "made a lot of sense" in light of the Bush administration's lack of leadership on comprehensive immigration reform. She never endorsed the policy proposal.

Obama, on the other hand, came out fully in support of licenses for illegals. If he gets the Dem nod, he'll be backtracking the whole time and will snap like a generic toothpick.

Svreader:

Check out the link to your beloveds and Rezko. Hate to burst your bubble (as you would say...the only thing you can say). Hypocrite.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/the-rezko-clinton-connection/

HAHA!

I too am now suffering from Bush/Clinton fatigue. I like you Hillary, but its time to move on.

Hillary has a Spitzer problem because:

1) Pennsylvania is a big state and she needs Bill's help cover it. However, now everytime Bill shows up everyone's thinking about the Clinton truthfullness. Don't shake your finger and tell me what to beleive.

2) Between Monica, Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones, Hillary couldn't keep her marriage on track. How can she manage the country?

3) Why didn't Hillary get a divorce, get away from Bill? Is possible Hillary was hurt but not so hurt she didn't see the potential of riding Bill's coattails as far it would take her?

P.S. Sara Bergstein, thank you for sharing what the press doesn't talk about. There's been talk about influence peddling from Saudi Arabia and China. It does make you wonder why Clinton can't seem to get her tax records ready for release but she can afford $5 million for consultants. Pay a CPA from the donut and pizza fund.

First of all, Hillary rocks. Secondly, I'm having a hard time voting for Obama if he wins the primary. People say the young who voted for Obama and have never had to vote for a president before won't vote for Hillary.

Actually there are polls that say older folks, especially older white women, will never vote for a black man which makes sense. As proven in Mississippi, white southerners just aren't ready to vote for Obama. It's the truth.

Conversely, many men will not vote for a woman, black or white, as the a-holes in the media constantly remind us with their sexist remarks.

Finally, those who say it's not about race and gender are just plain stupid. 90% of blacks vote for Obama. How is that NOT about race? Please spare me the ignorance.

Spitzer's campaign slogan in 2006 was that he would be (yup) "Ready On Day One". I do not recall her ever giving him credit for using it... but regardless, I hope, she does not intend to run her office in the same manner.

Bill did.

http://www.nydems.org/docs/2008-DelegateSelectionPlanRevisedandSubmittedtotheDNC.pdf

SECTION B. Alternates & Vacancies
1. Replacement of Pledged Delegates:
(a) A permanent vacancy occurs when a delegate resigns or dies prior to or during the National
Convention and the alternate replaces the delegate for the remainder of the National Convention. Any
alternate permanently replacing a delegate shall be of the same presidential preference (including
uncommitted status) and gender of the delegate he/she replaces, and to the extent possible shall be from
the same political subdivision within the State as the delegate. The Delegation shall make the selection of
a permanent replacement consistent with this provision.
(b) A temporary vacancy occurs when a delegate is to be absent for a limited period of time
during the National Convention and an alternate temporarily acts in the delegate's place. Any alternate
who temporarily replaces a delegate must be of the same presidential preference (including uncommitted
status) as the delegate he/she replaces, and to the extent possible shall be of the same gender and from the
same political subdivision within the State as the delegate. A delegate temporarily absent from the
Convention may select an alternate consistent with this provision.

Get rid of Governor Spitzer and bring in a good guy!!! Rudy Giuliani for Governor of New York.

greatnotion (and anyone else I missed on this topic above):

Does Spitzer lose his "super delegate" status if he resigns?

It is unfortunate that the private indiscretions have become matters of national concern. Prostitution should be made legal (or permitted) just like in most of the European and Asian countries. After all sex is the most potent sense of life (human beings or animals). At the same time the profession should be regulated to avoid coercion or forcing under aged people. Extra benefit is these people will pay taxes and don't have to live in fear. And also it will be an outlet for people that cannot obtain sex by other means. I am sure this will reduce the incidence of rapes, incests etc.

Besides this, why is Hillary refusing to come out clean and make her tax returns public? There must be something really insidious if she is guarding her returns so passionately. And it is scandalous that Bill has joined hands with all kinds of people peddling his influence, giving speeches through out the world and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars for each speech. If he is making all this money as a discredited ex-president, can you imagine what he will do as the spouse of a sitting president? And also every one has seen the multiple personalities of Hillary, you never know what she is going to say or do next. One day she is sweet feminine self, and next day she behaves like the legendary Medusa. No, We cannot afford to have a person of this fickle nature to be our president. Obama may have some of his short comings but he is much much better person than Hillary. All these feminists and racists should look at their inner self and do what is best to the country. It should not matter whether the person is black or white, man or woman, sexual orientation. The only thing that should matter is who will make a good president, that is all. All this talk about the 3:00 AM phone call is nothing but rhetoric and self serving. What will Hillary do if she is the president and the red phone by her bed side rings at 3:00 AM? Is she going to press the red button on the other side of the bed launching the missiles? Does she have a plan of what she should do in various scenarios? Every plan should have a back up and and exit plan. Did she think about any of those when she voted for the Iraq war? It was with the premise that Iraq had WMD's and nuclear weapon developing ambition. Did they have a plan of what would be the action if they DO NOT find any weapons? No, they did not have any alternative plan at all. That makes them (including Hillary) a worst kind of General. We don't want her as our commander-in-chief. We want some one that can think with cool head, always try to find a honorable diplomatic solution. this sabre rattling should stop. We need some one that can repair our tarnished image abroad and resoret the past honor and glory.
And shame on you Hillary for the lies and half truths, and wink winks!!

JakeD --

But the the NY State Lieutenant Governor is *already* a superdelegate so either the NY Democratic party elects another "super", or Hillary gets one less delegate.

Posted by: shah1000 | March 11, 2008 06:36 PM
Who Wrote:
Something on the side is moral issues. Soliciting and transporting prostitute is illegal in the US.

I'm all for legalizing but until then its illegal. You should be put in jail for that let alone run a public office.
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Yesss...and your point is? I dont disagree at all. What posts are you reading? Not mine, i havent said anything to the contrary

Has any democrat or republican sought more detailed answers from hillary about stories such as:

• Norman Hsu and his bundling of money for hillary campaign?

• How "dishwashers, waiters and others" poured "$1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury?"

• Bill's trip to Kazakhstan with Canadian magnate, Frank Giustra, that netted Giustra $3 billion and Bill's foundation a $131 million contribution from Giustra?

• How powerful foreign donors to Bill's presidential library, such as the Saudis, may pose a serious conflict of interest to Hillary's foreign policy actions as president?

• How Bill's tangled ties to an investment concern of Clinton friend, Ron Burkle, and it's dealings with Dubai may yet, again, threaten to compromise Hillary Clinton's execution of foreign policy as president?

• The fact that with all of these questionable financial dealings, the Clintons have been unwilling to release their tax returns, especially in light of Hillary Clinton claiming that the $5 million she lent the campaign was "her own money?"

• And, finally, though we, as Democrats, don't care who Bill schtupps (and, no, none of us believe he has kept his fly zipped the last seven years), you can be damn sure the Republicans will be digging hard (no pun intended) to see just what Bill has been up to since leaving office.

feastorafamine:

Something on the side is moral issues. Soliciting and transporting prostitute is illegal in the US.

I'm all for legalizing but until then its illegal. You should be put in jail for that let alone run a public office.

wow, most of you dc libs are lightweights.

First off, it won't do HRC any good simply because of all the shenanigans of her husbands administration. We'll all get to re-live it now.

Second, it'll showcase the typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do democrat attitude. They all know better than us. His arrogance at that press conference was breath taking. He needs to man-up and do the right thing.

Let's make it simple...He broke the public trust. The public "trusts" an elected official with the power to bring to bear the full weight of the states power against other citizens. The trust is that this person will do right. So for all his railing against prostitution, he was a year long customer. How about laundering money? He used many of the same tactics to try and obscure his activities yet that is what got him in the end.

So we are left with a question: "He lied to his wife and the public. Showed serious lack of judgment managing his affairs. Where else has he lied or used similarly bad judgement?"

That, is why he's toast.

TOO BAD ABOUT ELIOT. SEXUAL-EMOTIONAL NEEDS SURE TO CAUSE MANY PEOPLE SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
IF HE WERE REALLY WISE AND IN CONTROL, HE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO HILLARY FOR RELIEF. WOULD HAVE HARDENED THE COMMITMENT. BUT THEN, RENDEZVOUS WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM.

From what we read about CEOs in the papers and tv - they were hiring smart crooks only. Looking at our CEO from Silicon Valley - they are hiring generally insane people as well.

Posted by: svreader | March 11, 2008 05:30 PM
Wrote:
The self-righteous hypocrisy of Obama supporters that are "shocked, shocked" about Bill Clinton's BJ is usually only seen in closeted gay republicans.

Give the rest of us a break, fellas.

We know that most if not all of you have gotten something on the side at some point in your lives.

If you haven't, its probably because you're so ugly that nobody's offered.

Americans care a lot more about Obama's Cocaine abuse than Bill's BJ.

Watch Obama's numbers drop like a stone when Middle America finds that one out.

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Once again you post the same thing over and over. In your earlier posts you list a bunch of garbage like the Larry Sinclair thing (Who failed the polygraph)and you keep posting this cocaine thing. Obama is HORRIBLE person for being transparent and being honest about trying the drug in his youth. How vile LOL. Accourding to your own logic "Obama's numbers will drop like a stone" when his dirt gets found. I though you already listed all the dirt? Why are the numbers not dropping? If Spitzer can sink like a stone in 15 minutes where is your smoking gun for Obama?
I got news for ya...nobody cares about Bills BJ, nor his "I didnt inhale" nor Obama trying drugs as a youth. Nobody cares about Spitzer being "linked" with Clinton either because its a lame argument. NOBODY cares about any of those things (Or shouldn't) Because again they arent policies. It's just hate hate hate from both Hillary supporters and Obama supporters. Sad indeed.

Something strange is happening. Obama has increased his superdelegate count by 2 a day. Are CNN, Reuters and the Assocaiated Press manufacturing these increases. We need to investigate. Something is really strange when Hillary's number are decreasing by one a day. Is this media bias or reality?

Posted by: svreader
quote:
The real Obama isn't a very nice guy, or a very honest one. He's as crooked a politician as they come and he let his supporters rot in slums while he got rich.

Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from Chicago's most respected TV news program.
:end quote
I watched your clip and it doesn't support any of your accusations. There is no connection between Obama and any of the "slum" properties in question other than the fact that some of them happened to be in the State Senator's district. Nor is there any connection of Obama to the $100M that you mention. As usual, you're just slinging unsubstantiated mud.

As far as the property deal is concerned, the *facts* are not that damaging to Obama.

"Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- The couple who sold Barack Obama his Chicago home said the Illinois senator's $1.65 million bid ``was the best offer'' and they didn't cut their asking price because a campaign donor bought their adjacent land, according to e-mails between Obama's presidential campaign and the seller....Rezko's wife, Rita, also an Obama donor, bought the adjoining plot in Hyde Park from the couple, Fredric Wondisford and Sally Radovick, for the $625,000 asking price

In January 2006, Rita Rezko sold the Obamas one-sixth of the lot, for $104,500, to expand their yard. She later sold the rest of the land to Michael Sreenan, who said by e-mail yesterday that he bought it in late December 2006 for $575,000."

source:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aR8NLIoQEDc4

Rita Rezko make a quick $54,500 profit on the deal and even made a slight profit on Obama's purchase price, so enough about the Rezko land deal already. There is nothing there that will burn Obama any more than it already has.

I could care less about one of her sleazy, hippocritical political supporters.

The question remains, why doesn't Hillary Clinton release her tax returns. What is she hiding?

Tying HRC to Spitzer is just grasping at straws.

The real issue is that HRC is a hard-worker who fights for what she believes in and Obama is a dilettante with a lackluster senatorial record. If you want someone with the experience of Bush and the work ethic of Reagan, then by all means, Obama is your guy.

Most all the people on here do not know what they are talking about. I worry what is happening to my country. The change most people on here want will send this country in a tailspin. America is not perfect, but it is better than any of the other countries, and you want to send it downhill with Obama. I'm independent, but I could vote for McCain or Hillary because I think they want to keep the values we have enjoyed through the years since 1776. We are not perfect but we are the best ever. Think about it.

Eliot Splizer is WHO?
He may be a an orthodox Christian or Jew but not a Muslim? Otherwise, not his family alone but his place of worship might have been researched by the American media!!!!

Hillary's experience - Pass it on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZNpq_CDIdw&NR=1

Clinton/Spitzer for President. Excellent
Go Hill

I AM HILLARY CLINTON AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE: WE HAVE TO THROW SPITZER UNDER THE BUS QUICKLY BEFORE THIS WAVE ARRIVES IN PENNSYLVANIA.

The self-righteous hypocrisy of Obama supporters that are "shocked, shocked" about Bill Clinton's BJ is usually only seen in closeted gay republicans.

Give the rest of us a break, fellas.

We know that most if not all of you have gotten something on the side at some point in your lives.

If you haven't, its probably because you're so ugly that nobody's offered.

Americans care a lot more about Obama's Cocaine abuse than Bill's BJ.

Watch Obama's numbers drop like a stone when Middle America finds that one out.

Yes, by all means LET'S bring back the Lewinsky scandal! After all, if Slick Willy HAD KEPT HIS PANTS ZIPPED, Al Gore would have been president all this time, something would have been done about global warming, bin Laden would possibly have been caught or killed by now, we would still have honor in the world, have the respect of our allies, and the Iraq war never would have happened! One can only wonder WHAT ELSE will happen if Hillary wins. What will happen to Willy? Who will keep him in check? How much would he try to influence her presidency? Will he wear a chastity belt? Clinton should drop out RIGHT NOW, and allay all those fears.

Posted by: cherylwilson7911 | March 11, 2008 05:16 PM
Wrote:
Hillary 08, if not then McCain

Haters can keep texting on their blogs and stay home and out of site where they belong, because they sure don't spend time in church. This behavior is unacceptable. We do not need your kind of help, hope or change.
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Yet AGAIN another person who seems more motivated by anger rather than policies. Hillary or nothing? Hillary or MCCAIN??!! Kooky Kooky. Support McCain? then.. how do you feel about the appointment of conservative judges to the bench to overturn Roe V Wade? How do you feel about the Privatization of Social Security? How do you feel about the prospect of a war with Iran? How do you feel about stringing the Iraq war out for years and years on end? How do you feel about even greater corporate and special interest control of our democracy? I could go ON and On with this list. POLICIES people. Stop the Hating and start finding some UNITY. All that being said realize i LOVE Hillary so there is NO bias here. Except if you count that YEs you are right i DO NOT go to church. Sorry i dont need a church for a moral compass. Just a difference of opinion there.

What the hell happened to his face! Is he plastic man? Hillary's buddy.

Okay, I need to preface this by saying that I am a fervent Obama supporter who believes that he is exactly what this country needs right now. I have also been pretty uniformly disgusted by the campaign Sen. Clinton has run to date. She clearly seems to prefer poisoning Obama's image and seeing McCain win in November so that she can run against him in 2012.

That said... I have to say that this article by Peter Baker is pure insanity (and inanity). This quote in particular sums up either how inane the journalist is, or how little he thinks of the intelligence of his readers:

"It may be that voters conclude that Spitzer's indiscretions have nothing at all to do with whether Hillary Clinton can effectively serve as president."

May be? MAY BE? Golly, I dunno. If I put on my thinking cap and think REAL hard, maybe I'll be able to figure out that Eliot Spitzer's indiscretions with a prostitute have nothing at all to do with how Sen. Clinton would govern as a president. It's a stretch, but on a good day with the wind blowing in the right direction, I might be able to figure that out. Geez, this is what journalism has sunk to these days. And Baker is an experienced WaPo political writer. WTF?

to swiming lessons!

I have never seen more hatred in an election than by Obama supporters and surrogates. And you try to justify behavior by saying the Hillary campaign is racist and sexist?

If you supporters of Obama are displaying the hope and change that he has talked to you about in speeches, and you cast your vote for this kind of change, then I want no part of it and I don't want my small children to witness it.

You judge Hillary by what her husband did while he was in office. You judge Hillary by her age, you judge her by stating that she is part of old politics, you judge her by what she wears, how she laughs, and her private life. You judge her by a tax return and by some other horny politician's inability to play by the moral rules.

Obama's surrogates and strategists have also stated more hated things on the news shows than anyone else's campaign overall. You can see the hatred in their faces as they speak on TV. Kerry, McCaskill, Ann Rice (especially), Jamal whatever on CNN, Dick Morris, and the list goes on and on.

If this represents turning the page, the Obama is definitely reading from the wrong book. This judgment that all you have cast is not what America seeks.

If writing hateful things in these blogs make you feel like you are playing your part in politics, you are as sad as Obama wants us to think America seems and he is encouraging it. You are embracing the audacity in which he and wife Michelle have brought to this campaign and not the hope. This is not what America seeks.

I would rather have a fighter working for me than a hater ... any time, any year.

Hillary 08, if not then McCain

Haters can keep texting on their blogs and stay home and out of site where they belong, because they sure don't spend time in church. This behavior is unacceptable. We do not need your kind of help, hope or change.

NOBAMA, NO HATE

svreader

LOL. Driving Mr. Daisy!

sbgamatt wrote:
"What do the three have in common Governor Jon S. Corzine (D), Governor Ed Rendell (D), Governor Eliot Spitzer (D). They are all superdelegates supporting Hillary Clinton and all of them had extramarital affairs and all are adulterers."

Oh well the, there you have it, proof positive.

You're an idiot.

CNN, FOX, MSNBC....More fuel and oxygen,.....please run more clips and show us more of Monica and Bill. We just love Bill. That'll do it. More sympathy for Hillary!!

Ok let me get this straight...
Hillary is a demonic witch.
And Obama is a crook with nothing but words.
And ummmmm these are comments from democrats?
LOL. The hatred is AMAZING. There is little to no POLICY difference between the two. Get over yourselves Hillary haters, get over yourselves Obama bashers. This mud slinging is LAME. Its degrading to both candidates, and it has NOTHING to do with policy. Isn't this what Repubs usually do? Talk about everything/anything but the issues? Ask yourself the following question...IF the candidate you support, either Obama OR Hillary does NOT win the Nomination, who will you support then? Nobody? McCain? Either one of those two answers is simply a product of insanity. Vote for policies; don't get caught up in a heated primary only to become a puff of vapor come time for the general election. Vote for policies, and in turn realize both Hillary and Obama have almost identical policies.

LABC --

You're just making yourself look foolish.

But you are right about one thing.

Its a waste of my time to try to reason with you.

You're in love.

Get a room!!!

Posted by: svreader
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well, svretard/CEO, I am sorry that a busy, successful, well connected guy like yourself doesn't have time to discuss things with me, with your invention of the hottest thing in the market "stuff". And I would count the number of comments made about you, your pathetic, retreaded allegations/lies and I would say that you are not a person to be reasoned with. You have said nothing worth discussing, except that you feel the need to counter your worthless opinions with your "resume".

Bill Clinton on spotlight now. Monica. Monica.

Clinton/Spitzer for PRESIDENT.

Moral character ... blah blah blah!

Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, a Hillary supporter and superdelegate got money from the mob and won't return it. What else is new? Sleaze and slime surround Hillary.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/penn-officials-won-t-part-tainted-cash

trace --

Maybe Teddy can drive Obama home...

You guys hung up on Clinton-Spitzer. For Christ's sake Obama's best buddy is on trial in Chicago on a 12 count indictment. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Obama needs to withdraw , for the good of the party. Clinton had a big lead before he crashed the party. Where is and was his party loyalty then. Hillary can.t win the primary but neither can Obama. She has won most of the big blue states with most of the Super Ds. With all his supposed class he should withdraw and take the VP. Better something than nothing for either.

I guess Obamites are thrilled with Ted Keenedy's support for his prohpet having in mind his outstanding role in Chapaquidick!

What do the three have in common Governor Jon S. Corzine (D), Governor Ed Rendell (D), Governor Eliot Spitzer (D). They are all superdelegates supporting Hillary Clinton and all of them had extramarital affairs and all are adulterers. I wonder why women voted for Hillary? Is it because of sympathy. It seems that Hillary's Cabinet will consist of adulterers and feminists.

Peter Baker wrote:
"Now, his apparent involvement with a prostitution ring has not only distracted from her efforts to take down the front-runner, Sen. Barack Obama, it has brought back unhelpful memories of her own husband's dalliances in office"

It hasn't distracted her efforts to contrast her credentials with those of Obama. It hasn't brought back painful memories, except perhaps in your mind and in the rest of the press core who loathe her.

You sir, are an unprincipled jerk. You goal is to use this issue to trash a candidate of whom you disapprove. You're gutless.

Birds do it, bees do it, Republicans and Democrats do it! To heck with tax returns!

HRC and Obama need to show us their credit card and bank statements along with their telephone logs and email!!!

Eliot Spitzer's conduct should have every bit as much impact on the Democratic primary election as a fake red phone ringing while a little girl is shown sleeping. That is to say, it should not have much impact, but it will have a bit. And when the contest is close--every bit matters.

She's got a bigger problem than this -- her inability to discipline surrogates who issue racist, ethnocentric, and religiously charged statements and misstatements.

How come Senator Clinton demands firings, when she won't say much more than "oh people say things they don't mean," or words to that effect.

And while she does that both Senator Obama and Senator McCain, reject and denounce?

Two faced, hypocritical, cynical conduct tolerated by the media successfully cowed by the Clinton campaign in giving the campaign free rides.

This is actually helpful to Hillary b/c it will deflect attention from her and Bill's ridiculous "Obabma for VP" campaign.

The self-righteous hypocrisy of Obama supporters that are "shocked, shocked" about Bill Clinton's BJ is usually only seen in closeted gay republicans.

Give the rest of us a break, fellas.

We know that most if not all of you have gotten something on the side at some point in your lives.

If you haven't, its probably because you're so ugly that nobody's offered.

Americans care a lot more about Obama's Cocaine abuse than Bill's BJ.

Watch Obama's numbers drop like a stone when Middle America finds that one out.

What about Geraldine Ferraro's racist comments regarding Sen. Obama.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/11/AR2008031101614.html

Sen. Clinton should denounce, reject, and terminate Geraldine from her campaign but I doubt we'll see that kind of moral consistency from Clinton. Who is Ferraro to talk anyway? She and Mondale were absolutely *CRUSHED* in a record breaking landslide defeat by Reagan. She needs to shut up and just fade away!

Mr. Baker,

Today, there isn't much difference between journalism and prostitution!

Hillary tell his Wife to stand by her man. After all us voters are not stupid we all realize most of you Politicians are bottom feeders and scum that care nothing about this Nation or its Citizens! The voters only exist to be lied to, manipulated and spun. This man is no worse than You, Mcnut or Obama!

Mr. Baker

You are just a pile of trash and do deserve a place in the toilets!

Spitzer's prosecuting prostitution is like Bill's firing his Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders for talking masturbation in sex education. How sad!

I realize New York and the East Coast think they are the center of the universe, but few people know or care who Eliot Spitzer is. He is not a gangster and shakedown artist like Obama's friend Rescko who helped Obama buy his house, that is for sure.

If Hillary is elected president, and Bill in the white house with all those interns and nothing to worry about. It sure would become an American Caligula palace.

electress,
don't be foolish.

It is the daughters who are damaged in these two cases and Hillary owed it to Chelsea to leave at the first humiliation.
If you don't think these girls are damaged, do some homework.

Hillary's was and still is an unforgivable decision, just as certainly as Bill is unforgivable.

Let me make this perfectly clear, what follows is everything that is Hillary's fault, what she is responsible for:

pimples, lazy people, burnt apple pie, every man who has ever been unfaithful to his wife, menstrual cramps, all wars from the year 1917 until now, poverty, male chauvinism, race riots, anti war protests, pro life rallies, lousy paint jobs, asbestos (can't spell that one) mispelled words, ignorance, any child left behind, using an old telephone in an ad, decaying schools, Hurrican Katrinia (not the aftermath, the actual Hurricane)

and in the interest of allowing others to jump in , please - continue the list so we can all make an informed voting decision

Yes - for Spitzer also because of the New York connection

LABC --

You're just making yourself look foolish.

But you are right about one thing.

Its a waste of my time to try to reason with you.

You're in love.

Get a room!!!

Posted by: svreader | March 11, 2008 04:15 PM
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Obama won't have a clue without Hillary's homework to copy off of.

The only reason his policies are similar is that he copied hers.

Obama is a "fast follower" not a leader.

He's not Presidential or VP material.

AGAIN i ask the same question over and over. Are you saying you will vote for McCain if Hillary doesnt get the Nom? I do not beleive Obama is a follower (Just look at his anti-stance on the war during his run for Senate. It could have costed him the election given the popularity of the war at the time)However this is still a mute point to me. THe policies are not that different. Are you going to vote for McCain? How do you feel about the appointment of conservative judges to the bench to overturn Roe V Wade? How do you feel about the Privatization of Social Security? How do you feel about the prospect of a war with Iran? How do you feel about string the Iraq war out for years and years on end? How do you feel about even greater corporate and special interest control of our democracy? I could go ON and On with this list. Policies SVreader. How will you vote, for policies or with some heated anger generated by a tough primary election cycle?

Does winning the primaries mean so much to Obama's groupies that they abandon all principle?

How can they even THINK of supporting a man who did what Obama did in Chicago to the poorest of the poor who elected him???

Posted by: svreader
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uhh, svretard/CEO, I think you should be on the cokehead part of your endless, repetitious posts. God, you must bore the s**t out of your *cough* employees in a meeting.

It may be time for a woman to take presidency, but definitely not the wife of Bill. The past has proven that Hillary had no idea how to find him at 3 AM to help her deal with red button phone calls.

Power corrupts people. Spitzer and Bill alike just cannot resist the power on their hand.

There are millions upon millions of men,so many incidents, of men including those in the power houses, who engage in this behavior. They have gotten away with this
for thousands of years.

Why is it that the wife is the one we as a society want to attack, we shatter her,
and when the focus should be on the guilty one, the husband.

I'll tell you one thing, Hillary had little time for self pity. She picked herself up, and she is a much stronger
woman because of it all. You have to give
her some respect for that!

feast --

Obama won't have a clue without Hillary's homework to copy off of.

The only reason his policies are similar is that he copied hers.

Obama is a "fast follower" not a leader.

He's not Presidential or VP material.

Posted by: bobbobcat | March 11, 2008 04:03 PM
Wrote:
"...the Dems could offer up a dirty diaper and most likely still win the general election."

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That is the exact thinking that has cost us the past two elections.

Again how many times must i say this....there is a 2 to 1 voter turnout in the primaries, through the entire election cycle. I dont care if the Dems lost the last 5 elctions. Math Math Math. Is Mccain going to somehow inspire TWICE his voter base to vote? How? His great speeches? His overwhelming support from the right wing base? (LOL) I am not overconfident here, there is ONE way the Dems could lose. If many of these first time voters, or innactive voters cry like babies because their candidate didnt get the Nomination, then decided NOT to vote or worse, act like brainless babies and vote for McCain, then yes the election would be closer or near the point of peril for Dems. I will say it over and over. Vote for policies. The differences between Hillary and Obama are minimal in that respect.

It is so funny to hear Hillary and her supporters tell people not to be duped and that GOP members are voting for Obama because they think Obama is more easily beatable. That has to be the most asinine thought in the history of mankind. Anyone who knows anything about politics knows that Hillary comes into a general election at a distinct disadvantage because many people simply do not like her. No potential presidential candidate before Hillary has had as many people with a negtive view of her. If anything GOP voters are voting for Obama because they want him bloodied up for the general election.

Interesting comments.

Why it is if some man can't keep his pants zipped it is some woman's problem?

I get it - choices are important. Bad choice in one part of a person's life could indicate bad choices in other places in a person's life. But come on - how does Hilary fit into this particular equation?

Are you maybe suggesting the Gov consulted Hilary before he made these choices SO she then could make better choices about whether he was an appropriate political associate?

We have such bigger issues. Personally I wonder how is it that some personal indiscretion is worse than something like:
2. The sub-prime crisis perpetrated by the party in office today;or

3. Being manipulated into conducting a war that has now lasted longer than our involvement in any other war to date?

Maybe if guys can't get it together the previous commenter is correct - better to elect a woman.

Browsing the comments I have to wonder what planet some of the writers are on! Between one-trick-ponies (sorry) and serial deniers (so sorry), this is still one hell of a horse race. I don't personally see how Clinton can possibly survive much longer given the numbers and that she's running not running a 50 state race while the Democratic party operates in all 50 states... The superdelegates come from all 50 and elections for state office are 2 years away. Who wants to support a candidate who ran strong in the big blue states but threw the red and purple ones away?

Anyway you slice it...Spitzer got caught. That's the thing...HE GOT CAUGHT. So funny how these people go around pointing fingers at others and prosecuting,etc.
Then they go to the Mayflower and throw a party and all of their skeletons are in attendance. He was a man of power who thought he could have his c*^%( and eat it too...lol.

Oh by the way ....What momentum does Hillary have?

Posted by: svreader | March 11, 2008 03:56 PM
Wrote:
feast --

When the phone rings at 3:00am, the last person in the world I want making the decision on what to do about it is Barry Obama.

He wouldn't have a clue what to do.

Fear mongering but fine i will again address it.
I have asked you MANY times in this blog what are the differences in policy between Obama and Clinton? Are you saying that Obama would wake up, answer the phone and make some collasal mistake without consultation? Would Hillary make the same mistake? Do you think McCain would handle the crisis in a manner befitting to your policies and beleifs? Are you cool with McCain getting the call? This is a guy who sings "Bomb Bomb Iran" to the beach Boys tune onstage during his candidacy for President. Want him to take the call? Again you seem to allow an emotional kneejerk reaction to guide your judgement. Instead of looking at the similiar policies between Obama and Clinton, you seem to be content with merely hating Obama. No offense, you seem like a Dem and i respect you on general principle but i wouldnt want you to answer the phone. You seem to be an all or nothing guy, and we have had that for the last 8 years.

Posted by: SeedofChange | March 11, 2008 11:58 AM
Obama's muslim mother and father:

1. Mother married a muslim man who already had multiple wives in Kenya
2. Mother married a second muslim man to help bring up her "only child" after first husband left her
3. Mother moved her "only child" to Indonesia to provide a muslim environment and life style for her only child. Indonesia is the largest muslim country in the world and site of "Bali bombing". Indonesia is a terrorist hot bed.
4. Obama has no record of participating in Christian church activities in his early age
5. Obama has no record of participating in Christian church during college years.
6. Obama has no record of church activities after his graduation
7. Obama started church activities after he decided to run for public office and started participating in voter sign up activities. His church leader is friend with Farrahkhan
8. Obama's relation with Farrahkhan is unknown at this time

Obama can not win a general election

Last I checked our country was founded on:
Church being seperate from State

not , as your post indicates, that you atleast, believe so.

So history of Religious anything is only a plus when dealing with the Neo-Crusaders war we have on our hands. The fact that his history is Islamic is icing. Seeing that the islamic world is exploding with state funded murder and death left and right, maybe its about time we have a leader who can speak the language of the world community. Instead of the 'Blitzkreig ur Oils' clique.

I don't have any use for Farrahkhan, or Fartwell or even the pope for that matter. I will not vote for Hillary because of her Panic --yes PANIC-- during this election. A leader who is in panic is just another sheep in the stampede.

Its going to be interesting to see how Obama supporters react when they finally learn the truth about the guy they've been supporting.

Right now, they're in denial.

I've posted a link to a news story from Chicago about Obama, Obama's slums, and Rezko, but I'm betting most of Obama's supporters that post on this board haven't even bothered to look at it.

That's a fatal mistake.

The rest of the country will follow the Rezko case with extreme interest, because they will want to know what kind of guy Obama really is.

Once the see the real Obama, they'll never vote for him for any office, ever again.

If he can so coldly screw the poorest of the poor in Chicago, how can we depend on his heart, or his judgement about anything.

People who have know Obama since childhood say the same thing over and over.

The only person Barak Obama has ever cared about is Barak Obama.

He's a super-salesman. Nothing more.

From a character standpoint, he's even worse than Bush.

Spitzer is not a superdelegate because he is governor but because he is a Democratic bigshot. If he resigns the governorship, he remains a superdelegate. Even if he is impeached, that would not change anything. Look at Bill.

When will all the assorted morons realize that the Muslim argument against Senator Obama is not only NOT playing, it's becoming BORING. All you Archie Bunker types just head on back to Kelsey's bar and let the thinking people of the country worry about the election.

Hillary doesnt have a problem with the Spitzer situation, her problem is that her primary opponent Mr. Obama has already wrapped up the Democratic nomination. Her problem is trying to get enough superdelegates to hijack the nomination.

Spitzer? More like Sinbad:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.html

"...the Dems could offer up a dirty diaper and most likely still win the general election."

-----------------------------------------

That is the exact thinking that has cost us the past two elections.

DON'T BE DUPED!!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very fast.

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care. So they can make more profit for them-self.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket now! All democrats need to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton. So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

You should be angry America. "This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith...

svreader.

...............................

Great picture.

JakeD,

Yes, Paterson is a Clinton supporter. But the thing is that Paterson is already a super delegate on account of being a member of the DNC. He has openly declared that he will support Clinton at the convention.

When Spitzer quits as Governor, he ceases to be a super delegate. Paterson moves up and becomes Governor and thus will be a super delegate for 2 reasons. But no matter how many factors qualify you to be a super delegate, you only get one vote.

And that is why Spitzer's resignation means that Hillary Clinton is losing a delegate.

Senator Hillary Clinton is a strong candidate. She was not involved on Governor Spitzer's indiscretion. She will survive.
Keep moving forward.

We have to ask ourselves, even though Bill Clinton was good for the economy, can we really go back to the politics of self-destruction? Isn't it time to have a fresh face, a fresh mind, an uncorrupted one to Washington?

Think about it. We would go back to the same politics of constant rivalry and cat fights with the republicans and nothing will get done in Washington. Do you see how Mrs. Clinton and her staff are treating Obama? The republicans will not buy into that; they will fight back with arms and teeth.

The solution is to get any Clinton out of any presidential ticket and have someone who can re-conciliate the country.

Spitzer has given Hillary the ultimate weapon - a situation to blame on McCain!

Spitzer did not trip up HRC over the undocumented immigrant driver's license proposal--rather, HRC is so out of touch with the conservative right's extreme views on immigration, it never occurred to her such a proposal would set off a firestorm.

For all who claim the democrat's nomination race is over--I say, not by a long shot! I'm not a HRC supporter, but even I see the race is far from over.

Michigan and Florida will have "do-overs"; it's just a matter of the states and the DNC working out the logistics and $$$ issues. The votes in these two states will have an impact on the front runner status.

The super-delegates will then weigh in on the matter. Once the super-delegates step into the fray, it will be cut-throat, backroom politics the likes of which we have not seen since the election of 1800.

feast --

When the phone rings at 3:00am, the last person in the world I want making the decision on what to do about it is Barry Obama.

He wouldn't have a clue what to do.

Has anyone asked Mr. Obama what he thinks of Spitzer's problem? Or his own problems? NO!

Mr. Obama DID NOTHING BOLD, CHANGED NOTING AT ALL, PROPOSED NOTHING DIFFERENT, PLAYED POLITICS AS USUAL ALL ALONG HIS WAY TO TODAY.

Mr. Obams is a PHONY.

Here are three great sites that will show you Mr. NObama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-close-were-barack-obama-and-tony.html

Posted by: svreader | March 11, 2008 03:45 PM
Who Wrote:
All Obama supporters do is attack Hillary for not throwing Bill Clinton under the bus like they try to do to both of them.

Meanwhile, they give Obama a "get out of jail free card" for his repeated use of cocaine and for totally shafting the poorest of the poor in Chicago who voted for him.

Obama supporters never talk about policy issues, because they neither follow or care about them.

Obama and his supporters don't have a strategy for defeating John McCain, their only platform is to dive bomb bird droppings onto the best President since JFK and the finest female statesman of our time.

If Obama gets the nomination, McCain will get the oval office.

Even Obama can't fool all the people all the time!!!

Earth to svreader...
With a voter turnout of nearly 2 to 1 in favor of the Dems through the ENTIRE election cycle, coupled with 8 years of failed conservative politics (And lowest Pres. approval rating in history) the Dems could offer up a dirty diaper and most likely still win the general election.
As for the cocaine, Obama admitted to trying it as a youth, WOW a politician admitted to something! Shocker. Lets crucify him for that right? I for one find this blantant transparancy and honesty UNFORGIVABLE. LOL
He let down the poor people who voted for him? WOW i would think that would be ALL OVER the news as well. We live in the times of 15 minute destruction. Just look at Spitzer for evidence of this. Obama was a community organizer and HELPED a ton of folks. He could have gone on to make tons of dough with his Law degree but instead returned to Chicago and got paid peanutts instead. Strange you mention policies....tell me besides a wrinkle in the mandates within healthcare reform what policy DIFFERENCES exist between Obama and Clinton? Not much really. I find your bias unsettling to say the least. Vote for policies. Does McCain refelct your policies?

We can expect Hillary to make every effort to destroy the reputation of the hooker, castigate the FBI, accuse Republicans who make a comment about the tryst as playing dirty and not, I repeat NOT, make any negative comment about the villain - just like she did for Bill. Hillary has a history of bashing women victims of DOM and claims she stands up for women. She, of course, being the role model!

First off, let me say that I am an Obama supporter. In my opinion, Hillary Clinton does not have a Spitzer problem in the main way the Peter Baker suggested. Spitzer's stupidity has nothing to do with Hillary and any sordid images it may conjure up of past problems the Clinton's had would be wrong.

She does have a superdelegate problem though. I know for a fact that David Patterson is not happy about being drawn into backing Hillary Clinton and is one of those SDs that could very well say one thing a vote another way. When she won NH, he was on the stage with her and was furious that they had called and asked him to be there. He has done the political thing and backed the senator from his state, but privately, he is not a big fan. Despite articles to the contrary, he is not a staunch supporter of Sen. Clinto which could result in one less SD for her. In a race this close, that could be a problem.

CEOsvreader, isn't time for your afternoon meeting with all your staff to launch the "stuff" phone?

Some dolt said Obama proved himself unelectable!!!
That's clumsy Rovian turnabout...put your weakness onto your opponent full force...

He's got the most votes, most delegates, he's got the best judgement, best speaking abilities, and best shot at appealing to independents (unless those folks happen to support the Iraq war, thankfully they are a small minority). He's capable of authorizing missle-launches at terrorists. He is "not opposed to all wars just dumb wars". That will cause McCain to do some dancing.

Will be that Hillary is realy experienced?

All people know that Spitzer is a big Clinton's supporter. What will say Clinton now? I have certain that Clinton will deny and will reject your big friend and supporter now. The Clinton are same old politics. They are true hipocrites! They are scandals, scandals, scandals and more scandals...Wake up USA!!!!
Brazil and the World are with Obama to president from USA.

Hugs from Brazil

I have said it before and i will say it again...
STOP the infighting. Start realizing that your candidate for the Nom MAY lose. Either Obama or Clinton would make a far far better president than McCain. Vote for POLICIES. I am tired of watching Hillary supporters call Obama a good orator but without merit. Tired of listening to Obama supporters call Hillary a demonic witch. Tired of what seems to be a lot of first time voters, who only got off their butts to vote in the first place because they liked ONE person and ONE person only. Cry babies all of you! Whah Whah Whah, my candidate didnt win so now I am not going to vote or even worse for for McCain???? WOW. INSANE. Policies people, realize that even if you hate Hillary, or hate Obama, that their policies best represent your views. For any Dem to consider voting for McCain i ask you this: How do you feel about the appointment of conservative judges to the bench to overturn Roe V Wade? How do you feel about the Privatization of Social Security? How do you feel about the prospect of a war with Iran? How do you feel about string the Iraq war out for years and years on end? How do you feel about even greater corporate and special interest control of our democracy? I could go ON and On with this list. POLICIES people. Stop the Hating and start finding some UNITY. The only way the Dems could lose the general election (Considering 2 to 1 voter turnout for Dems over Repubs) is if any one of you Dems act like babies and choose not to vote if your candidate doesn't get the NOM. Find some unity and insure progressives regain the White House.

All this drivel with Spitzer and Hillary is neither here nor there. I am not voting for Hillary because she voted for the war in Iraq. And secondarily, after listening to the -------- who support her spouting irrational, stupid, untrue, and bigoted statements about Obama, I am convinced that I am with the right group. If you want to talk about issues, fine. But to spew remarks that make you look like a skinhead, then it is on you.

JenQ,

I think the question over why Hil never left Bill becomes raised once again. It becomes a question over what really matters to her? Principle: if she the strong independent feminist who doesn't waste time *baking cookies* as she onced proclaimed, she probably should have left her womanizing sexually harrasing husband. Political Gain: staying with Bill because of the political benefits of their sybiotic relationship and looking the other way every time Bill cheated and/or sexually harrased the women on his staff.

Also, I havn't heard/read Obama or his campaign staff even bring this up.

Clinton's problem again?

The Washington Post seemed to have trouble finding anybody else's problems. Why didn't you find out W. Bush's Irag problem? His torture problem? His human rights problem? His AWAL problem? His drinking problem?

Or, Obama's NAFTAgate problem? Obama's Iraqi double talk problem? His Rasko problem? His sweetheart real estate deal problem? His Reagan Democrats problem? His large-state problem?

Please give some consideration about your own integrity problem, your fairness problem.

All Obama supporters do is attack Hillary for not throwing Bill Clinton under the bus like they try to do to both of them.

Meanwhile, they give Obama a "get out of jail free card" for his repeated use of cocaine and for totally shafting the poorest of the poor in Chicago who voted for him.

Obama supporters never talk about policy issues, because they neither follow or care about them.

Obama and his supporters don't have a strategy for defeating John McCain, their only platform is to dive bomb bird droppings onto the best President since JFK and the finest female statesman of our time.

If Obama gets the nomination, McCain will get the oval office.

Even Obama can't fool all the people all the time!!!

Does winning the primaries mean so much to Obama's groupies that they abandon all principle?

How can they even THINK of supporting a man who did what Obama did in Chicago to the poorest of the poor who elected him???

"I believe the current (for now) Lt. Gov. of New York is a staunch Hillary DIANE Clinton supporter too ; )"

JakeD's not too sharp. So much for that 1961 Stanford law degree he keeps gabbing about.

Paterson is already a superdelegate, so Hillary would be down a superdelegate if Spitzer steps down.

Duh.

To paraphrase Sen. Clinton on whether Obama is a Muslim-

"As far as I know" Hillary is not invloved in the Spitzer ring. That is strictly - "As Far as I know" - now there is stuff I do not know.

Would be really interesting, if this IRS investigation finds donations from Spitzer's "suppliers" to Hillary's campaign. Bet you 10 bucks, she won't give that money back!

No more sleaze. No more scandal. No more Clintons.

Obviously the "contributions" here are not screened for literacy, relevance, worthiness.

I am surprised by some of th vile dreck that makes it here.

Senator Clinton got mentioned as a red phone racist in the New York Times today and it seems that her husband and Governor Spitzer have irrational (red phone alert quality) infidelity in common. Maybe Senator Clinton has judgment and character problems.

May I humbly remind Mr. Baker that one of Hil surviving Bill's impeachment intact actually struck a sympathetic tone with female voters?

Could it be possible that too much attacking of Hil this week while all of this is going on will actually serve to make her more - not less - sympathetic with these very same women who remember that *none* of what happened with Bill was her fault?

I dunno...I think Camp Obama is playing this completely wrong going on the offensive while the Spitzer stuff is in the news. Just my thoughts.

Spitzer was a Hillary Clinton fundraiser: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/calendar/2007/10/hillary_clinton_fundraiser_new.php

To TAH1:

Obama has proven himself unelectable? I guess that's why he's won more states, delegates and leads in the popular vote. Boy, that's horribly unelectable. I bet Hillary wished she was so unelectable that she had more delegates, led in the popular vote and had won the most states.

Oh, yeah, some of Obama's victories were caucus states. And her husband never did well in a caucus. I'm sorry. She's right. We should void all the results from the caucus states because she didn't win them and Bill Clinton didn't do well in them, either.

Oh, yes, some of the states Obama won were red states. We should void those states. In fact, next primary season only California, NY, NJ, Texas, Fla and Ohio should be allowed to vote because only big states really count.

Oh, but wait, Ohio is a red state. Texas is a red state. Florida is a red state. Perhaps we should void those results as well.

Maybe what we should do is just ask Bill and Hillary who should be the candidate and whatever they decide goes.

Sorry, mate. If Hillary was the best candidate she would be winning.

I have to question the fiscal responsibility of an elected official who would spend $5,000 on something he could get for free.

I agree - this is irresponsible journalism. People in the press often like to bring up questions in their own minds as thought they're out there in the public at large, when in fact the public doesn't think about them until someone under a deadline who has to come up with something fast raises them. "Don't think of an elephant!" It's just like the opinion piece in the times saying the 3 AM ad wasn't just fear-mongering but racist. Puh-leeze. Don't go universalizing your own anxiety closet.

Spitzer is not Hillary, Hillary is not Spitzer. The connection between Spitzer and Clinton only exists because the media says it does. Kind of like the connection between Peter Baker's Inquisition-like examination of Spitzer and Spitzer's own self-righteousness before he was caught dallying with prostitutes. Hmmmmmmm...

"Don't think of an elephant!"

Sure, everyone will forget about this lowlife hypocrite. Why? Because this is accepted behavior for liberal democrats. Hillary enabled old slick willie's preying for years, for just such a time as this, her own run for the White House.
Sleaze abounds in the democrat party. By the way, all you Clinton supporters get the applictions filled out do your daughters and gand daughters can be White House interns under Willi er Hillary.

Every time there is a sex scandal there will be a replay of Bill Clinton saying, "I did not have sex with that woman." Reminding voters that he did and Hillary's main experience during the Clinton presidency was dealing with Bill's sex with a young intern. Do we want another 4 years of the Clintons and their shady past? I think not.

The Democratic race was over before all this sordid Spitzer news came out, and it remains over. I realize the media likes the idea that Hillary's campaign is afloat and competitive -- it's good for ratings and sales, I'm sure -- but it is simply a fanciful notion. I hate to see any story like this Spitzer mess, but if there's any silver lining, hopefully it's that it will do some little part to push the focus on the presidential race to where it really should be: Obama vs. McCain.

This article is a reach that suggests a slow news day. Spitzer will be gone quickly. His crime reflects very badly on him. But it is not a political crime. It will not tarnish any of his political associates. By the time the Democratic convention rolls around, nobody will remember his name. New York is Hillary Clinton's home state and she won it in the primary. Most likely Spitzer's replacement will support her as well. But, in any case, it is not likely that her fate will hang on a single vote.

Comedians just lost their best lines, You can`t beat the "COMEDY" of the Democrats this election year! Spitzer, Billyary, Hill, all down "Hill!" Can`t wait for the "Realality show with them" and Spitzer the "Elliot Ness" as host. Look out "Hollywood" you`ll be out of bussiness! What a delight to watch.

Senator Clinton wouldn't even stand up for herself when she was humiliated before the world. What makes anyone think she would stand up for someone else?

Why is it I'm finding the Obama supporters to at least have some semblance of an argument, and his detractors very little grasp of fact and reality? Haters really should get themselves together before spouting off - you're making your opponents look good.

Anyway, getting to Clinton/Spitzer, my guess is it won't do much, maybe remind a couple people who were seriously on the fence anyway of a less than glorious period a decade ago. I find ericp331's thoughts at the top of the page especially astute. Barring team Hillary's making a mess of this, it shouldn't be much of an issue.

Do you think Hillary will reject or renounce Spitzer's support??? Because that is important to her right?

Also, if Spitzer is client 9, which client is Bill?

svreader, I see how Hillary supports her friends; Hillary got Spitzer and his endorsement off her website faster than a Los Angeles drive-by shooting. What does Hillary do with her ever-compounding image problem? First, it's Bill (after cracking on Tammy Wynette's "Stand By Your Man"), now it's one of her (soon-to-be former) superdelegates. What do you tell your puppet-master to do now?

Governor Spitzer please do not resign. Hillary needs your superdelegate vote. Stay put unless Hillary rejects and dennouces your support. You should not resign because of the right wing conspiracy.

CNN and Fox. .....more oxygen to the fire. We need more pictures of Bill and Monica. That'll do!!!

Irresponsible journalism to link the two. And to the Obama supporters who say it is anything but, one needs to look in one's own Superdelegate backyard before casting stones.

Ted Kennedy any one?

(AP) McCain Advisers Lobbied for Airbus

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iiW1J4iWjV71TzWJ0uAmi9yL-N0AD8VB329G0

Hillary has the ethics to support Bill in his lifetime of mistreatment of women. He is a misogynist supported by an avowed feminist. And you wonder why we find her campaign disingenuous?

Stokes1: You are right, Hillary is surrounded by a bunch of scoundrels, liars and adulterers. I wonder what would her cabinet consist of - womanizers and femisnists?

IF by association Clinton has a Spitzer problem

THEN by association Obaman has a Farrakhon problem

Really? Not unless she both denounces and rejects!!!! She can't win unless super delegates cheat for her.

Posted by: svreader | March 11, 2008 02:28 PM
If Obama gets the nomination, its going to wind up being President McCain.

From Obama's repeated use of cocaine, to the guy on the net who accuses Obama of having a homosexual affair with him and has now passed a lie detector test to the fact that Obama let the people who supported him rot in slums, Obama has way too many negatives to get elected.

Republicans were scared of this election turning into a referendum on Bill Clinton vs. George Bush, which Republicans would lose and what will happen if Hillary is the candidate, even though netiher Bill Clinton nor George Bush is running.

The real Obama is a real jerk.
People in Chicago know that already, and the rest of the country will know it soon.

The question is whether the rest of the country will wake up in time.

The real Obama isn't a very nice guy, or a very honest one. He's as crooked a politician as they come and he let his supporters rot in slums while he got rich.

Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from Chicago's most respected TV news program.

Earth to svreader...
With a voter turnout of nearly 2 to 1 in favor of the Dems through the ENTIRE election cycle, coupled with 8 years of failed conservative politics (And lowest Pres. approval rating in history) the Dems could offer up a dirty diaper and most likely still win the general election.
As for the cocaine, Obama admitted to trying it as a youth, WOW a politician admitted to something! Shocker. Lets crucify him for that right?
As for Mr. larry Sinclair, get your facts straight..He FAILED the lie detector test. Do a simple Google search before you want to present something as fact. The mainstream media hasnt touched this story because its a joke. See story below
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4799
He let people rot in slums? WOW i would think that would be ALL OVER the news as well. We live in the times of 15 minute destruction. Just look at Spitzer for evidence of this. Obama was a community organizer and HELPED a ton of folks. He could have gone on to make tons of dough with his Law degree but instead returned to Chicago and got paid peanutts instead. If you want to have a discussion about policies or FACTS then so be it. We might disagree or agree along those lines but please do some research before posting. As for your youtube video i can find a video on ANY political figure. There is an endless amount of media available to fit any bias. Yours is plain to see...saying all of this I have NO bias except for being a Democrat. Either Hillary Or Obama is a fine choice by me considering the policies of John McCain.

The Democratic Party is toast. It has been split right down the middle. On the one hand we have classic honorable liberals and moderates, black voters, the college educated, and people of faith - Obama supporters. On the other hand, you see illegals, angry feminists left over from the 1960's, liars, cheats, entitlement bums, Geraldine Ferraro, the garbage heap of humanity - Clinton supporters. No self respecting Obama supporter will ever again support *anyone* who sides with the toxic hag. I certainly wont. If Clinton somehow succeeds in stealing the nomination, we will see to it that the Democratic Party is punished across the board. The recent special Congressional election in Illinois showed the sort of poweer we have, the votes we can turn out. Count on us turning against the feminist old guard, against illegals, against the Party in general, if this wretched toxic hag and the hysterical mob she has enlisted are somehow allowed to steal the nomination from Obama. Imagine 1500 to 2000 Obama deligates walking out of the convention, of massive nation wide street protests, of anger boiling over on a level that will make 1968 look like a picnick.

If Spitzer resigns, and Hillary wins the Presidency, they'll need a new NY Senator, right? Maybe Patterson will appoint Mrs. Spitzer.

The fact that Charley Crist wants a do-over in FL tells you everything about the respective electability of the Dems in the general. Its Obama (because he might win a state of two in the deep south even if he looses OH). Anyway, between Rendell (whose fidelity to his wife was questioned while he was mayor of Philly) and the romantic misjudgments of governor Corzine, this is quite the collection of governors we have here in the old Middle Atlantic.

I can't believe the shallowness and downright stupidity shown by some of the comments posted here. First, the fact is that if Eliot Spitzer resigns Hillary will be down one superdelegate, as the current lieutenant governor is already pledged to her.

Second; the crud that is purported to show Obama is a Muslim. Not only is this stupidly wrong, but it constitutes a "so what?". The constitution says there can be no religious test for federal office.

It's time to get real folks and think about the problems that we face in Iraq and with the economy.

Eliot Spitzer's story reminds us all very vividly of the sleaze and slime during the Clinton's years. We expect the same old slime and sleaze again in the White House with Bill Clinton as the de facto President. Let us all remind voters in all the remaining primaries of the dangers of voting for the Clinton's. This is something that is going to happen again. Hillary calls it the right wing conspiracy. Voters should be reminded of the ugliness, slime and sleaze of the Clinton years. Voters should be reminded of thugs and criminal who rented the Lincoln bedroom in the Whitehouse. Enough of this dirt. We need a fresh start with Obama. We need a breath of fresh air.

I have long believed that the soul of America is afflicted with a condition, that for lack of better description, I call "as**ole is king". That is that our country (in politics, business, academia, you name it) richly rewards those that are willing to be the least civil, the least honest, and the least ethical. The ascendency of GWB to the presidency is the clearest illustration. In short, our country is run by as**oles.

This reality IMHO makes it nearly impossible for truly decent people to achieve national office. I believe it is the appearance of civility and decency in Senator Obama that has attracted so many to him. His lofty rhetoric is nice, but I wasn't born yesterday. The basic change that he is advocating is that the federal government be run with civility, reason, and to the extent possible, consensus. I believe this approach to governing to be vastly superior to the current approach of lie, demonize, misrepresent, and spin.

I place the possibility of returning decency and civility to the federal government at the top of my list of reasons for supporting Senator Obama. Even if all the horrible innuendos about him that are flung about in these forums proved true, it would make him no worse than his competitors.

There is a cost to these messy family dramas. Bill Clinton issued the failed missile strike against Bin Laden while embroiled in the Lewinsky investigation. You have to wonder if the world would look differently had he not been distracted. The White House doesn't need any more Clinton family dramas.

Hillaru have to be our president.
Baraq Hussein Obama will a be a nice vice-president

There is something Shakespearean in this whole episode, particularly as it relates to Senator Clinton. The last 2 weeks her campaign went negative with innuendoes about Senator Obama's faith, veracity and ability to be President and then wham Governor Spitzer gets caught in a prostitution ring and this sordid tale brings us back to the tale of President Bill Clinton's serial infidelity and the Clinton soap opera.

If Senator Clinton has so much experience and good judgment as she incessantly reminds us, isn't it fair to ask on a personal level how she never figured out or knew or about her husband's serial infidelity that was so obvious to others that knew them. Senator Cliton got all full of herself these last 2 weeks about her alleged experience and judgment and then like a Skakespeare play, the governor of her home state commits the sin of adultery and reckless judgment, reminding us of the Clinton years.

I think there is poetic justice in this world.

Hillary have to be our President. She is the right person, no doub about it.
Baraq Hussein Obama can be a nive vice-president

I call on Hillary to immediately "repudiate, renounce and REJECT Spitzer's support for his crimes against women. I thought Hillary was big on women's rights -- but she stands idly by while Spitzer's pays for the right to satisfy his fleshly desires with women, violating multiple laws in the process. No surprise though because she stood idly by while Bill use his position and power to engage in sexual activities with a young intern.

Shame on you Hillary!

WHY????????
HILLARY IS NOT SELLING ETHICS
SHE HAS PROVEN ETHICS
AND SHE IS NOT SELLING
ISSUES THAT COULD NOT BE PROVEN

THAT I WOULD LEAVE FOR SAMPLE
OF SOMEBOBY ELSE
THIS IS STORY OF PREACHER OF ETHICS
THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE CAREFULL
WITH POLITICIANS DOBLELIFE

This Eliot sex-gate is a blessing for Hillary. That's why Eliot should not resign. The more CNN, MSNBC and Fox show the clips of Bill Clinton groping Monica's breast outside the May Fair Hotel yeap the same hotel Eliot had his thing, the more it will help Hillary's campaign. More and more women will feel sorry for Hillary and vote for her. It's to Hillary advantage and I won't rule out a conspiracy theory here. The Republicans and The FBI are helping Hillary win the nomination by wire tapping Governor Spitzer.

IF by association Clinton has a Spitzer problem

THEN by association Obaman has a Farrakhon problem

The FBI should investigate more on this prostitution ring because l am sure client #10 will be Bill Clinton, if Gov Splitzer is client #9.

Afterall birds of the same feathers flock together.

@ccoblas

Mrs. Spitzers has now the same amount of experience compared with mrs. Clinton, but not on the same level. She can run for Governor of New York, not for president.

Given the array of freaks, weasels, and lunatics constantly posting incoherent nonsense; why does the Washington Post even bother to maintain a comments section?

Obamans: get off your high horses. Now, how does Clinton's Democratic Party connection to Spitzer compare to Obama's connection to Pastor Wright & Farrakhan? OBAMANS ARE DEEP IN HATRED, DENIAL AND HYPOCRISY!!!

Posted by: frankyrey | March 11, 2008 02:40 PM
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what stage of grief are we in at this point?

Again, if he is all these awful things, why does Clinton want him on her ticket?

Here, hold my saddle...

I can't believe how ugly some of you are... how utterly hateful and counter productive towards moving our country beyond what has been an ugly 20 years in American history...

Be accepting of one another, work for one another, and help us all move forward.

Obamans: get off your high horses. Now, how does Clinton's Democratic Party connection to Spitzer compare to Obama's connection to Pastor Wright & Farrakhan? OBAMANS ARE DEEP IN HATRED, DENIAL AND HYPOCRISY!!!

"The real Obama is a real jerk." - And Hillary still wants him as VP?!
The "jerk" may either be Hillary or whoever posted this, or both; but not Obama...

asja:

You are not including Florida and Michigan in those totals.

rgs_tn:

"DIANE" is Hillary's middle name -- am I being racist" or "sexist" or some other "-ist" using that as well?

Personally, I don't think this will help or hinder Hillary in any way. She is too busy plotting and scheming how to win the nomination to let this little story stand in her way.

This primary season is nowhere near over and she will do anything and everything to get the nomination.

I love the great comments on Obama--his drug use, his alleged homosexual affair (WTF???), his slum lord connections, his plotting to overtake the world, etc. They are completely hilarious especially with the over-the-top comments like "When will America WAKE UP?" If those comments are indicators of Hillary (or anyone else's for that matter) campaign....you are welcome to stay in that campaign.

LABC --

You're probably using my stuff right now.

The very though of it brings a smile to my face.
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Yeah, master of universe, I am so sure you are a CEO and people use your "stuff". Because that is what Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and other real CEOs