Richardson, Endorsing Obama, Looks for Generational Change

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., right walks out with New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Friday, March 21, 2008, at the Memorial Coliseum in Portland, Ore., where Richardson announced his endorsement of Obama. (AP.)
Updated 1:59 p.m.
By Jonathan Weisman
PORTLAND, Ore. -- At a thunderous rally in Memorial Colliseum here, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson endorsed Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for president, appealing for peace in the Democratic Party and hailing the moment as historic.
"Your candidacy is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for our country, and you are a once-in-a-lifetime leader," Richardson declared at Obama's side. "You will make every American proud to be an American."
The moment was a calculated effort to try to put to rest the increasingly divisive fight between Obama and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) for the Democratic nomination. Both campaigns had assiduously courted Richardson, one of the nation's leading Latino political figures, ever since he dropped out of the presidential contest.
Richardson made his choice not when it could have mattered most politically, before the tight contest in Texas, but at a time of spiraling accusations and counter-accusations between the Clinton and Obama camps. His endorsement makes him 62nd superdelegate to choose Obama since the Super Tuesday contests on Feb. 5.
Richardson praised Clinton as a candidate and a leader, and he hailed the achievements of President Bill Clinton's administration, in which he served as ambassador to the United Nations and energy secretary.
But, he added, "It is time for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we have against John McCain."
The endorsement is not likely to end the sniping any time soon. Indeed, Clinton campaign advisers dismissed the its significance.
"You know, look, I think everyone has their endorsers," chief Clinton strategist Mark Penn said. Given that New Mexico had already voted for Clinton, "perhaps the time when he could have been most effective has long since passed," he said.
On a day when Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused Clinton of being too dishonest and untrustworthy to win the White House, Richardson's nod only became new fuel for the sniping.
"He's a good man, and we respect his decision. Senator Obama could use a little good news today. He's sliding in the polls and lashing out like a desperate politician," another Clinton aide said.
But the Obama campaign was determined to make the most of it. Richardson took the stage as if his support for Obama was perfectly natural. He hailed the senator's speech on race for its "eloquence, sincerity and optimism."
"Senator Obama could have given a safer speech. He is, after all, well ahead in the delegate count for our party's nomination. He could have just waited for the controversy over the deplorable remarks of Reverend Wright to subside, as it surely would have," Richardson said. "Instead, Senator Obama showed us once again what kind of leader he is. He spoke to us as adults."
Richardson spoke as a Hispanic American, who, like Obama, had a foreign born parent. He hailed his "steadfast patriotism," hitting back at conservative whisper campaigns questioning Obama's commitment to the country.
But Richardson's support was anything but perfectly natural. A fierce defender of the Clintons, at times, his own campaign for president appeared to be in part aimed at a post, perhaps the vice presidency, in a Hillary Clinton White House.
"Before concluding my remarks, I would like to say that we are blessed to have two great American leaders and great Democrats running for president," Richardson said. "My great affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver."
But he made an appeal to the Democratic Party insiders who will ultimately decide the nominee.
"The 1990's were a decade of peace and prosperity because of the competent and enlightened leadership of the Clinton administration," he concluded, "but it is now time for a new generation of leadership to lead America forward."
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Posted by: Cantabrigian | March 26, 2008 1:11 PM
According to Bill Richardson this is pay-back time for having been ignored during his presidential bid, also, when Richardson was asked about his support for Obama, his reply was, "Why not give someone else a chance. It has been Bush, Clinton." THAT WAS HIS REPLY. HELLO AMERICA.
Posted by: Cantabrigian | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM
According to Bill Richardson this is pay-back time for having been ignored during his presidential bid, also, when Richardson was asked about his support for Obama, his reply was, "Why not give someone else a chance. It has been Bush, Clinton." THAT WAS HIS REPLY. HELLO AMERICA.
Posted by: Cantabrigian | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM
According to Bill Richardson this is pay-back time for having been ignored during his presidential bidalso, when Richardson was asked about his support for Obama, his reply was, "Why not give someone else a chance. It has been Bush, Clinton." THAT WAS HIS REPLY. HELLO AMERICA.
Posted by: Cantabrigian | March 26, 2008 1:09 PM
BILL RICHARDSON ( JUDAS) SELLS OUT LATINOS AND JOINS THE WRIGHT RACIAL DIVIDE AGAINST AMERICANS FOR POLITICAL FAVORS!
OBAMA LOOSES JOBS FOR MINORITIES
Ms. Obama, VP Chicago Hosp, that charges minorities 6 times as much, isn't cold hearted enough; she also caused hundreds to loose their 11.hr jobs, to be more efficient she said! In 05, elected to the BOD Westchester-based TreeHouse Foods, she received $12,000 and $33,000 from a subsidiaries, in Nov announced closing its La Junta, plant, that claimed the jobs of 153 workers, most of them Hispanic! Huge blow to a rural town jobs paid a starting wage of $11hr, Company pays top execs like MICHELLE OBAMA tens of millions a year while destroying middle-class America. Raises the question not only about corporate values but about Barrack Obama's own values. Specifically, while he bashes Wal-Mart, why does his wife, make $45,000 and up a year serving on the board of Chicago comp that pays her a very hefty amount of money while laying off mostly minority workers in economically deprived areas? No. 1 customer is Wal-Mart???
Obamas attack on middle class and minorities- The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama's presidential campaign. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004 Union member say senator did little to save jobs in the blue-collar town of 37,000. Obama connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, company's director's records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaigns. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004.
Posted by: dyck21005 | March 26, 2008 7:02 AM
Here is an entry from the MI / FL petition;
Jocelyn and Michael in Michigan - We are so furious with Barack Obama at this point in time that we have both made a pact NOT to vote for him in November if he is the nominee for the Democrats. We've had enough of this absurdity. We VOTED. And this freshman rookie Senator from Illinois doesn't want our votes to count? To hell with him.
--
There you have it. Sign at;
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/seatourdelegates/signatures.html
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Posted by: straightmedia | March 26, 2008 1:06 AM
-- Richardson told "Fox News Sunday" that he wouldn't respond by getting "in the gutter like that."
"That's typical of many of the people around Senator Clinton," Richardson said. "They think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency." --
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...uhm, that's a response, bozo.
Only Bill Richardson, would back Obama after he was
exposed for patronizing a racially divisive lunatic for
20 years.
Only the media, takes him seriously. He earned zero
delegates in his run for president, and is a bumbling
joke at this point.
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Posted by: straightmedia | March 26, 2008 12:56 AM
The Limbaugh story is mostly myth. He came out with that story after it was exposed that some republicans had been doing just the opposite of what Limbaugh now claims. Republicans have been voting in large numbers for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC open primaries, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC caucuses from day one.
Limbaugh is using reverse psychology on you to cover up.
The REPUBLICANS have been trying to choose the weakest DEMOCRATIC candidate to run against in November. And also to prevent the possibility of a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama DREAM TEAM match up.
I am really surprised the media has not picked this fact up with all their experts, and analyst. It's as plain as the nose on your face. This is why Obama has mostly only been able to win red state caucuses, and primaries. And no big blue states primaries.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate.
Hillary Clinton has actually already won the democratic nomination if you remove the republican vote fraud. Does this really surprise anyone after the 2000 and 2004 elections. :-(
They have no respect for the constitution, or the democratic process. They have no SHAME!!!
jacksmith...
Posted by: JackSmith1 | March 25, 2008 10:55 PM
Mr Richardson, Obama is a divider:
Barack Obama is calculating in a rather cowardly way. He is not even reliable. As a matter of fact he really is a divider in a very concrete sense - exact opposite of what he is preaching. Two great states are now separated from the "democatic union" thanks to Barack Obama.
Quotation: "OBAMA´S LAWYERS (daddies) SUCCESSFULLY PREVENTED RE-VOTES IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN (my comment: the nicest daddies in the world). That means it would be virtually impossible for Clinton to take a lead in either elected delegates or total primary votes"!
When Obama has grown up he may be able to speak for himself, or...........................?
Posted by: Roy3 | March 25, 2008 6:15 PM
Correction:
On Obama, does it take anyone 20 years to realize he is sitting on a cactus?
Olga
Austin, Texas
Posted by: olgaolivia | March 25, 2008 1:10 PM
On Bill Richardson's betrayal: Shame on him for not listening to his constituency. He doesn't realize he is a public servant!
Does it take anyone 20 years to realize you are sitting on a cactus?
Olga
Austin, Texas
Posted by: olgaolivia | March 25, 2008 12:58 PM
Since Richardson's state voted for Hillary, and since the Obama-ites all clamor for the superdelegates to follow the will of the people, and since Richardson (Bill, that jacket is a bit too snug!!) is a superdelegate, I guess Richardson should cast his superdelegate for Hillary.
Posted by: JHRRNMS | March 24, 2008 10:01 PM
Since Richardson's state voted for Hillary, and since the Obama-ites all clamor for the superdelegates to follow the will of the people, and since Richardson (Bill, that jacket is a bit too snug!!) is a superdelegate, I guess Richardson should cast his superdelegate for Hillary.
Posted by: JHRRNMS | March 24, 2008 10:01 PM
Obama's efforts to connect to the Republican Party, specifically Bush, and Dick Chaney, of the Halliburton Company, dates back to the Presidents Grandfather, Prescott Bush, and indeed Chaney was once an executive officer of Halliburton.
The American military pounds Iraq with Artillary, bombs, and the like, destroying large sections of cities, and infra-structures, then Halliburton comes in to rebuild. Halliburton and Halliburton associated companies have raked in ten's of billions.
Obama is just like the BIG HALIBURTAN. Haliburton has contracted to build detention centers in the U.S. similiar to the one in Quantanammo Bay, Cuba. Halliburton does nothing to earn the Two Dollars for each meal an American Serviceman in Iraq eats.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
Halliburton was scheduled to take control of the Dubai Ports in The United Arab Emiirate. The deal was canceled when Bush was unable to affect the transfer of the American Ports.
Now we see what some might suspect as similiar financial escapading from the Democrats.
Two years ago, Iraq's Ministry of Electricity gave a $50 million contract to a start-up security company - Companion- owned by now-indicted businessman (TONY REZKO) Tony Rezko and a onetime Chicago cop, Daniel T. Frawley, to train Iraqi power-plant guards in the United States. An Iraqi leadership change left the deal in limbo. Now the company, Companion Security, is working to revive its contract.
Involved along with Antoin "Tony" Rezco, long time friend and neighbor of Democratic Presidential hopeful Barack Obama, and former cop Daniel T. Frawley, is Aiham Alsammarae. Alsammarae was accused of financial corruption by Iraqi authorities and jailed in Iraq last year before escaping and returning here.
LIKE FATHER LIKE SON --
Recently, Obama's campaign staff have been vetted by the IRS to disclose his connection to the criminal money generating underworld. Besides, his connections to the REZCO MAFIA types, his up-coming tax fraud charges -- Obama needs to disclose why he is a MUSLIM "PATWANG-FWEEE" and disclose Obama's MUSLIM Farrakhan mob connection to Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness." That man is Louis Farrakhan. Farrakhan and Chicago's Trinity United Church are trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. Obama should stop suppoting our intervention in IRAQ. It's time to introduce this false, fake Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke "GLORK" Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek. He is MAD!!! --
OBAM YOU'RE NO JFK --
"GLORK" Obama looks like Alfred E. Newman: "Tales Calculated To Drive You." He is a MUSLIM "Glork" He's MAD!!! Alfred E. Neuman is the fictional mascot of Mad. The face had drifted through American pictography for decades before being claimed by Mad editor Harvey Kurtzman after he spotted it on the bulletin board in the office of Ballantine Books editor Bernard Shir-Cliff, later a contributor to various magazines created by Kurtzman.
Obama needs to disclose why he is a MUSLIM "PATWANG-FWEEE" and stop suppoting our intervention in IRAQ. It's time to introduce this false, fake "GLORK" Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek.
Michelle Obama should be ashamed.
"GLORK" Michelle Obama should be ashamed of her separatist-racist connection to Farrakhan and Chicago's Trinity United Church trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. If Michelle Obama new what her husband -- the Hope-A-Dope, Fonster Monster -- Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama did in Harlem, she would wash her wide-open, Hus-suey loving MUSILM mouth out, with twenty-four (24) mule-team double-cross X-boX-BorraX. He is a MUSLIM "Glork" It's time to introduce this false, fake "GLORK" Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek. He's MAD!!!
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
THE SPEECH --
The Apologia has arrived and once again the self-indicting, separatist-racist Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama, promises to heal the wounds of the world. The speech is the rude awakening of mass messianism of his campaign. Apologetically, Obama the MUSLIM double-cross X-boX-BorraX has an astonishingly empty two-prawn echelon explanation of his misjudgment.
In the first prawn: with regard to his connection to separatist-racist Rev. Wright; Obama summons voodoo and juju to express slavery as beginning and ending with the Rev. Wright.
In the second prawn: Obama's speech takes credit for Ashley's dream. A dream of unity Martin Luther King, Jr. borrowed from Ashley for his historic "I Have A Dream" speech. In Obama's speech, the connective bond Ashley, the elderly black man and Obama's grandmother share; represents Obama's self-indicting rise to the Harvard Yard. For Obama, the grand flag of language is the semi-fore of words, bestowed upon our nation by the messiah-alumni from Harvard. Obama's Swoon-Song Apologia to the nation represents a failed hymn -- a hymn that fails to heal the nation, repair the world, or make this time different than all the rest. Obama's speech is a brilliant failure.
Posted by: jreno20 | March 24, 2008 9:54 PM
Bill Richarson wants a generational change- so does Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and Marion Barry in DC.
Well are they all going to retire? That could start to produce a generational change. Or do they all want to remain important and see that happening if Obama is elected and he needs them and Hillary Clinton doesn't. This generational change thing is mind boggling when it comes from older people who still run for Office.
Ted Kennedy is a whole other thing. I remember him going after a sitting Democratic President for the nomination and not giving in till the convention. Talk about hurting the party.
It is time that we looked at who can win and looked at it realisticaly. Richardson couldn't even win the Hispanic vote against Hillary. So what does he bring Obama? Not much! Question is what did Obama promise him?
Racism is rampant in this country as is sexism and homophobia. But woman make up 54% of the electorate and are the majority of the electorate in many states. African Americans aren't the majority in any state. So if you add Hillary's ability to win women, seniors and the hispanic vote she clearly has the best chance to win in November.
I will support either Obama or Clinton, but to win we need to go with Clinton. Richardson and Kennedy may be doing something that feels good to them but in the end we all lose if we can't win the Presidency. Kennedy and Kerry together couldn't even win the primary for Obama in Massachusetts and Hillary won New Mexico, so let's be realistice here.
Clinton can win in November, Obama can't.
Posted by: peterdc | March 24, 2008 3:33 PM
Bill Richardson's endorsement of Obama can have a huge impact with a White-Brown-Black coalition... Here's the analysis of the blogger "showze2"...
If Obama picks a hispanic VP then he is probably certain to win in november?
consider: 30% liberal white vote + 20% hispanic vote + 15% black vote,
that gives Obama 60%-65% of the popular vote.
we could see a liberal democratic landslide in November
that's maybe why Bill Richardson endorsed obama, and that he is a good choice for VP. That's maybe why many uncommited superdelegates will now side with Obama.
______________________________________
However, for the voters, Bill Richardson, and other superdelegates, the Clintons' records in the White House and after the White House speak for themselves...
Under Bill Clinton's presidency, the democrats lost the house, the senat and many other legistlative seats. His presidency was plagued with violations to ethic codes:
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
Before he left office, he seems to have given favors in exchange of money... For example, shortly after beeing pardonned by President Clinton, fugitive financier Marc Rich had his ex-wife giving $400 000 to the Clintons library foundation: Source:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,98756,00.html
Since then, he seems to be in much bigger suspicious money deals ... The Clinton foundation received recently a $31.3 million donation after Bill expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader's, undercuting both American foreign policy and sharp criticism of Kazakhstan's poor human rights: Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html
Bill and Hillary Clinton would be the target of many attacks by the republicans if Hillary is nominated.
Bill Richardson probably took this into consideration when he sided with Obama. Other uncommited superdelegates will probably follow soon.
Posted by: Logan6 | March 24, 2008 1:45 PM
Slimeballs Unite.
Posted by: v2rmlh | March 24, 2008 12:55 PM
Obama's efforts to connect to the Republican Party, specifically Bush, and Dick Chaney, of the Halliburton Company, dates back to the Presidents Grandfather, Prescott Bush, and indeed Chaney was once an executive officer of Halliburton.
The American military pounds Iraq with Artillary, bombs, and the like, destroying large sections of cities, and infra-structures, then Halliburton comes in to rebuild. Halliburton and Halliburton associated companies have raked in ten's of billions.
Obama is just like the BIG HALIBURTAN. Haliburton has contracted to build detention centers in the U.S. similiar to the one in Quantanammo Bay, Cuba. Halliburton does nothing to earn the Two Dollars for each meal an American Serviceman in Iraq eats.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
Halliburton was scheduled to take control of the Dubai Ports in The United Arab Emiirate. The deal was canceled when Bush was unable to affect the transfer of the American Ports.
Now we see what some might suspect as similiar financial escapading from the Democrats.
Two years ago, Iraq's Ministry of Electricity gave a $50 million contract to a start-up security company - Companion- owned by now-indicted businessman (TONY REZKO) Tony Rezko and a onetime Chicago cop, Daniel T. Frawley, to train Iraqi power-plant guards in the United States. An Iraqi leadership change left the deal in limbo. Now the company, Companion Security, is working to revive its contract.
Involved along with Antoin "Tony" Rezco, long time friend and neighbor of Democratic Presidential hopeful Barack Obama, and former cop Daniel T. Frawley, is Aiham Alsammarae. Alsammarae was accused of financial corruption by Iraqi authorities and jailed in Iraq last year before escaping and returning here.
LIKE FATHER LIKE SON --
Recently, Obama's campaign staff have been vetted by the IRS to disclose his connection to the criminal money generating underworld. Besides, his connections to the REZCO MAFIA types, his up-coming tax fraud charges -- Obama needs to disclose why he is a MUSLIM "PATWANG-FWEEE" and disclose Obama's MUSLIM Farrakhan mob connection to Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness." That man is Louis Farrakhan. Farrakhan and Chicago's Trinity United Church are trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. Obama should stop suppoting our intervention in IRAQ. It's time to introduce this false, fake Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke "GLORK" Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek. He is MAD!!! --
OBAM YOU'RE NO JFK --
"GLORK" Obama looks like Alfred E. Newman: "Tales Calculated To Drive You." He is a MUSLIM "Glork" He's MAD!!! Alfred E. Neuman is the fictional mascot of Mad. The face had drifted through American pictography for decades before being claimed by Mad editor Harvey Kurtzman after he spotted it on the bulletin board in the office of Ballantine Books editor Bernard Shir-Cliff, later a contributor to various magazines created by Kurtzman.
Obama needs to disclose why he is a MUSLIM "PATWANG-FWEEE" and stop suppoting our intervention in IRAQ. It's time to introduce this false, fake "GLORK" Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek.
Michelle Obama should be ashamed.
"GLORK" Michelle Obama should be ashamed of her separatist-racist connection to Farrakhan and Chicago's Trinity United Church trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. If Michelle Obama new what her husband -- the Hope-A-Dope, Fonster Monster -- Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama did in Harlem, she would wash her wide-open, Hus-suey loving MUSILM mouth out, with twenty-four (24) mule-team double-cross X-boX-BorraX. He is a MUSLIM "Glork" It's time to introduce this false, fake "GLORK" Xerox - X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox - X box to meet the Buffalo "GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA" Police Department Buffalo Creek. He's MAD!!!
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
THE SPEECH --
The Apologia has arrived and once again the self-indicting, separatist-racist Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama, promises to heal the wounds of the world. The speech is the rude awakening of mass messianism of his campaign. Apologetically, Obama the MUSLIM double-cross X-boX-BorraX has an astonishingly empty two-prawn echelon explanation of his misjudgment.
In the first prawn: with regard to his connection to separatist-racist Rev. Wright; Obama summons voodoo and juju to express slavery as beginning and ending with the Rev. Wright.
In the second prawn: Obama's speech takes credit for Ashley's dream. A dream of unity Martin Luther King, Jr. borrowed from Ashley for his historic "I Have A Dream" speech. In Obama's speech, the connective bond Ashley, the elderly black man and Obama's grandmother share; represents Obama's self-indicting rise to the Harvard Yard. For Obama, the grand flag of language is the semi-fore of words, bestowed upon our nation by the messiah-alumni from Harvard. Obama's Swoon-Song Apologia to the nation represents a failed hymn -- a hymn that fails to heal the nation, repair the world, or make this time different than all the rest. Obama's speech is a brilliant failure.
Posted by: jreno16 | March 22, 2008 2:57 PM
BILL RICHARDSON SELLS OUT LATIONS AND JOINS THE RACIAL DIVIDE!
OBAMA LOOSES JOBS FOR MINORITIES
Ms. Obama, VP Chicago Hosp, that charges minorities 6 times as much, isn't cold hearted enough; she also caused hundreds to loose their 11.hr jobs, to be more efficient she said! In 05, elected to the BOD Westchester-based TreeHouse Foods, she received $12,000 and $33,000 from a subsidiaries, in Nov announced closing its La Junta, plant, that claimed the jobs of 153 workers, most of them Hispanic! Huge blow to a rural town jobs paid a starting wage of $11hr, Company pays top execs like MICHELLE OBAMA tens of millions a year while destroying middle-class America. Raises the question not only about corporate values but about Barrack Obama's own values. Specifically, while he bashes Wal-Mart, why does his wife, make $45,000 and up a year serving on the board of Chicago comp that pays her a very hefty amount of money while laying off mostly minority workers in economically deprived areas? No. 1 customer is Wal-Mart???
Obamas attack on middle class and minorities- The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama's presidential campaign. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004 Union member say senator did little to save jobs in the blue-collar town of 37,000. Obama connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, company's director's records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaigns. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004.
Posted by: dyck21005 | March 22, 2008 7:39 AM
BILL RICHARDSON SELLS OUT LATIONS!
OBAMA LOOSES JOBS FOR MINORITIES
Ms. Obama, VP Chicago Hosp, that charges minorities 6 times as much, isn't cold hearted enough; she also caused hundreds to loose their 11.hr jobs, to be more efficient she said! In 05, elected to the BOD Westchester-based TreeHouse Foods, she received $12,000 and $33,000 from a subsidiaries, in Nov announced closing its La Junta, plant, that claimed the jobs of 153 workers, most of them Hispanic! Huge blow to a rural town jobs paid a starting wage of $11hr, Company pays top execs like MICHELLE OBAMA tens of millions a year while destroying middle-class America. Raises the question not only about corporate values but about Barrack Obama's own values. Specifically, while he bashes Wal-Mart, why does his wife, make $45,000 and up a year serving on the board of Chicago comp that pays her a very hefty amount of money while laying off mostly minority workers in economically deprived areas? No. 1 customer is Wal-Mart???
Obamas attack on middle class and minorities- The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama's presidential campaign. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004 Union member say senator did little to save jobs in the blue-collar town of 37,000. Obama connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, company's director's records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaigns. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004.
Posted by: dyck21005 | March 22, 2008 7:38 AM
"Unfortunately, for Richardson, he's too fat to be elected Vice-President in the T.V. age."
Posted by: JakeD | March 21, 2008 01:46 PM
And he is incredibly boring.
Gawd, we need some adults in this campaign.
Posted by: jp31901cg | March 22, 2008 6:38 AM
It's fun hearing Clinton's camp trying to downplay the very nomination they were just begging for, and the Hispanic Presidential contender that they didn't want to endorse Obama.
My favorite line was hearing the Clinton camp call Obama's side deserate and "lashing out"... (LOL!) that was down right hilarious, a leap from reality in which Obama (in the lead) can play roll-reversal with Hillary (kitchen sink desperation)...
Latinos for Obama, Viva Obama!
Posted by: eljefejesus | March 22, 2008 2:50 AM
Obama's supporters are going for him because of his qualities (unifier, near the people, intelligent, articulate, etc.) while Hillary's supporters are going for ther because of Bill (like the latinos), her gender (like the angry feminists) and the color of her skin (like the racists). That's why Obama's supporters are more enthousiastics. And that's why Obama's numbers are going up when voters learn to know him, and that Hillary's number are going down in the same context.
Like Bill Richardson, the remaining uncommited superdelegates will see this and vote Obama.
Posted by: Logan6 | March 22, 2008 2:14 AM
To bbussey: A lawsuit might be the first thing you think of but I don't. There is a process in this country and in Illinois that is availible to all Americans to hold people accountable for violations of Title VII and it is currently not being upheld for me as a Hispanic filing race discrimination charges and Barack Obama knows this but in his good judgement decided to continue to do nothing. Any investigation into this and who knew what when will uncover wrongdoing but not on my part.
Posted by: Chaos45i | March 21, 2008 11:54 PM
WRONG BET!
The governor is clearly submitting his resume for VP or Secretary of State. He should have stuck with the Clintons, he would have had a better chance.
How can he endorsed a candidate that has no chance of winning. He did not see the "GODDAM AMERICA" label hanging in his candidates neck. Maybe he is thinking again of running for president in 4 years. If this is the case then he should pray that his candidate becomes the nominee.
Posted by: tim591 | March 21, 2008 11:20 PM
Chaos45i on March 21 @8:51p,
How have you brought attention of this discrimination forward? Isn't a lawsuit the proper course of action in this case? You don't document what steps you have taken, but it appears you've not followed the proper path to press your claims.
Posted by: bbussey | March 21, 2008 9:54 PM
Just saw a report on PBS about Obama's daddy's hometown. Margaret Warner was there interviewing the towns folk about their famous hometown boy. Newsflash: women there prefer Clinton! They are proud of Obama, but think it's even more impressive that a woman could get so far up the male dominated political ladder.
Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | March 21, 2008 9:45 PM
As a Hispanic this endorsement by Richardson is disgusting. As Richardson is aware of an ongoing racism against Hispanics that Barack Obama has been condoning for some time.
This is a basic text of a letter. I faxed to Governor Bill Richardson today, after learning of his unconscionable endorsement. Early this morning.
Attention to; Governor Bill Richardson March 21, 2008
Ongoing Complaint and Notice
You are aware and it can be confirmed with full documentation that during the time you were a presidential candidate you and other former presidential candidates (i.e Senator Chris Dodd) were repeatedly placed on written notice that presidential candidate/Illinois US Senator Barack Obama and co-chair Obama 2008/Illinois US Senator Dick Durbin had been placed on prior repeated noticed that when I a Hispanic American citizen reported incidents of race discrimination towards me by Hormel foods Corp., UFCW, and Target Corp., the agencies the Illinois Department of Human Rights and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (four instance, but not limited to) refused and are still continuing to refuse (even to the date) to afford me, a US American born citizen from the state of Illinois, the full language and the same full and equal protections under Title VII that non-Hispanics enjoy as a matter of record. You and other former presidential candidates (i.e., Senator Chris Dodd, who has already made it abundantly clear by endorsing Obama that he doesn't care about Hispanics/Latinos being treated unequally in Obama's own state of Illinois) were repeatedly placed on written notice about presidential candidates/Illinois US Senator Barack Obama's unwillingness to stop ongoing illegal discrimination. In his own state of Illinois as it relates to his Illinois constituents (who happened to be Hispanic/Latino) when they report race discrimination in Illinois, which are facts that can be verified. By endorsing Barack Obama you are helping Obama to facilitate this harm against Hispanic Americans, which makes this ongoing fight against this form of discrimination harder because you are Hispanic. Governor Bill Richardson, you are knowingly selling Hispanics out for whatever Barack Obama is promising you. I am not a governor I am just an average Hispanic American citizen in Illinois and in Barack Obama's own state of Illinois. If you identify yourself as being Hispanic and report race discrimination not as a governor you will run into the same discrimination and obstacles I am fighting against that without dispute prevent me, a Hispanic American natural born citizen, the same rights and language non-Hispanics enjoy as a matter of record when non-Hispanics assert race discrimination in Illinois, and having been placed on repeated written notice by me about this ongoing discrimination in Illinois against Hispanics/Latinos you are now being complicit in this discrimination against Hispanics/Latinos by endorsing Barack Obama as there can be no dispute this obstruction of justice and discrimination is ongoing in my particular case. Barack Obama has given a supposedly historic speech about race recently to defend his pastor's hate of America but Hispanics like me who love America cannot assert race discrimination because of Barack Obama's inaction. This should be more than a simple red flag, but with history on my side and facts that back up the true nature of Barack Obama you endorsing Obama will forever include you with Barack Obama's racist legacy.
cc: U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Senate majority leader Harry Reid,
John Edwards
If any good reporter wants they can check this out!
Posted by: Chaos45i | March 21, 2008 8:51 PM
You PROMISE that neither Hillary nor Obama will ever, ever raise the issue in any subsequent court filing?
Posted by: JakeD | March 21, 2008 7:03 PM
The issue of John McCain's citizenship right to the presidency will never be raised. It is a loser for those raising it, alienating the entire military and a good slice of the civilian population as well.
Nobody with "standing" will go for it.
Posted by: edbyronadams | March 21, 2008 6:36 PM
kreuz_missile:
And, I thought the Congress should have decided the Bush-Gore controversy too -- again, I think you and I see eye to eye - but, the best laid plans of mice and men . . .
Posted by: JakeD | March 21, 2008 6:35 PM
Great endorsement.
Richardson has long wanted to endorse Obama. Bill Clinton visited him at home trying to stop him doing that before March 4. This time he finally can speak out his thoughts.
Posted by: Adams3 | March 21, 2008 6:11 PM
But it wouldn't go to the Supreme Court, and the courts would be extremely reluctant to rule on such a political issue. It would fall to the Congress whether or not to certify the results of the Electors, and both houses would need to reject them with a majority. I don't see that happening, nor do I see the Supremes stepping in a year later when the case reaches them trying to throw the sitting VP out of office. But, again, I also don't see such a situation ever happening because, again, it violates the spirit of the 22nd Amendment and the people wouldn't accept it regardless of the legalisms involved.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 6:11 PM
Waiting for Hillary to smell the coffee is like waiting for Dan Rather to call Florida. Someone blow a dog whistle, maybe she'll go back to the Senate.
Posted by: gmundenat | March 21, 2008 5:56 PM
As I said, the argument is there, just like the WTC Conspiracy wackos -- I don't buy either one -- and neither will a ROBERTS Supreme Court ; )
Posted by: JakeD | March 21, 2008 5:55 PM
"yet another murky issue for McCain in that regard"
This is really a non-issue. He was born on a US military installation to US parents, he's a natural born US citizen I don't think he's ever been naturalized, has he?). George Romney in '68 would have been another matter, but this one just looks petty and people on the left should really cut it out.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 5:52 PM
tchanta,
"One of the most controversial statements in his sermon was "chickens coming home to roost"?
Really? I thought "God, Damn America" was at least slightly more controversial. Just my opinion.
Posted by: brigittepj | March 21, 2008 5:51 PM
Kreuz and whatmeregister:
I never said I bought the argument, just that it exists, and it goes a little something like what Kreuz pointed out -- under the 22nd Amendment, Bill Clinton is indeed Constitutionally ineligible to be ELECTED President again -- however, he is not Constitutionally ineligible to be ELECTED (or, even scarier, appointed) Vice-President because the 22nd Amendment was subsequent to, and therefore amended any such prohibition in the 12th Amendment.
Therefore, the 12th Amendment explicitly precluded from being Vice-President those ineligible to be President (i.e. people under thirty-five years of age, those who have not inhabited the United States for at least fourteen years, and those who are not natural-born citizens -- yet another murky issue for McCain in that regard). What is untested is whether the 22nd Amendment's term-limiting provisions prevent two-term Presidents like William JEFFERSON Clinton from becoming Vice Presidents (and, then, horribly -- PRESIDENT again). I would point out that such a scenario certainly violates the spirit of the 22nd Amendment, but the argument still exists there's a bone fide loophole as it does not violate the letter of the law.
Posted by: JakeD | March 21, 2008 5:42 PM
When will WaPO start reporting the truth?
Even Clinton News Network is now starting to see the light. On Anderson Cooper's blog, you can read this:
One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned "chickens coming home to roost." He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan's terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That's what he told the congregation.
He was quoting Peck as saying that America's foreign policy has put the nation in peril:
"We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.
Posted by: tchanta | March 21, 2008 5:29 PM
But that's just it- he is eligible to hold the office (Per Article 1: No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.), he's just not eligible to be elected to the office- that's the legal gray area that most scholars are still unsure of. By a strict reading, he could ascend to the office without being elected to it. To be clear, the authors of the 22nd Amendment should have stated that they were limiting the time for holding the office, not just the criteria for election, and not just to the office of President.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 5:28 PM
Hmmm, Kreuz, on rereading my last post I think I may have actually made your counterargument for you. Time to find another thread, I think. LOL
Posted by: whatmeregister | March 21, 2008 5:24 PM
100 years is about 50 election cycles. If people are unhappy with our stay in some country, that's fifty chances to change policy.
Of course, perhaps one needs a more effective party than Democrats to get a change in policy. After all, they gained the majority in Congress largely on unhappiness with the Iraq war but didn't end it. In fact they approved the escalation that is now yielding results.
Perhaps they are for change, just not the kind their constituents envisioned.
Posted by: edbyronadams | March 21, 2008 5:24 PM
Dallas-area black clergy defend Rev. Jeremiah Wright's message
02:55 PM CDT on Wednesday, March 19, 2008
By GROMER JEFFERS Jr. and JEFFREY WEISS /
The Dallas Morning News
gjeffers@dallasnews.com; jweiss@dallasnews.com
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright's fiery commentary about America went beyond the usual political discourse but reflected long-held frustrations that African-Americans often release at churches and other social settings, local black pastors say.
It's those stark observations, created by generations of oppression and racism, that Barack Obama attempted to put into context Tuesday for Americans troubled by sound bites of Mr. Wright's sermons that "damned" the United States and blamed the nation's own actions for the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
Many black Dallas pastors view Mr. Wright as a longtime hero and mentor, defending his message and bridling at what they call media misrepresentation of it.
Also Online
Analysis: Barack Obama takes big risk by addressing race conflict
"I have preached at Trinity [Mr. Wright's church in Chicago] and he has preached here," said the Rev. Tyrone Gordon, pastor at St. Luke Community United Methodist Church in Dallas. "One thing I said to the church on this past Sunday is that a lot of us are taking it personally because it is an attack on the whole black prophetic experience."
But for whites who have never been in a black church, Mr. Wright's words could have seemed extremist and even bizarre.
Mr. Obama tried to shed light on Tuesday.
"Trinity's services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear," Mr. Obama said Tuesday. "The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and, yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America."
Supporters acknowledge that the Wright controversy could be difficult for Mr. Obama to overcome, but they say he made a good first step by introducing Americans to the black church experience.
Former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, an Obama supporter, predicted that some voters will abandon Mr. Obama because of the presidential contest's sudden racial tone.
"There's a segment of the voting populace with folks looking for an excuse to be against him," Mr. Kirk said. Many black Dallas pastors say Mr. Wright's comments have been misinterpreted by whites unfamiliar with the black experience in America.
"There is a huge disconnect that is rooted in ignorance," said the Rev. Frederick Haynes III, pastor of Friendship West Baptist Church in Oak Cliff. "Unfortunately, it took the media lynching of Jeremiah Wright for us to once again deal with the unresolved issue of race in this country."
Dr. Gordon, who said he counts the pastor he calls "Daddy J" as a spiritual mentor, rejects any suggestion that Mr. Wright is himself racist.
Traditional black preaching - particularly from men of Mr. Wright's generation - carries a style and cadence far different from that found in most white churches. It is frequently delivered in Old Testament prophetic style, in which sins are recounted, punishment promised, repentance called for - with emotion and entertainment value at a premium.
"Black preaching is provocative and steps on everybody's toes," said the Rev. Sheron Patterson, senior pastor at Highland Hills United Methodist Church in Dallas. "Black preaching is cathartic for the preacher and for the congregation."
Black audiences familiar with the style probably hear a more nuanced theology in some of Mr. Wright's quotes than what comes across from the videos filling the newscasts and Web sites.
Take the sound bite that is getting the most play, the 2003 sermon in which he repeatedly said: "God [condemn] America." It's part of a longer passage that condemns the U.S. government for a number of transgressions against blacks, including "treating our citizens as less than human."
And that, some other black pastors say, is a traditional use of the prophetic voice by a preacher named after the Old Testament prophet who condemned the nation of Israel in the name of God.
"Shall I not bring retribution on a nation such as this?" Jeremiah says, speaking for God. "They shall become as dung on the face of the earth. And death will be preferable to life for all that are left of this wicked folk."
But both the contemporary and biblical Jeremiahs are the truest of patriots, Mr. Gordon said.
"They preached it because they did love their country and wanted their country to be a spiritual leader in the world," Mr. Gordon said. ..........
Posted by: gandalfthegrey | March 21, 2008 5:23 PM
Awwww, Kreuz, you gave it away too soon. I wanted Jake to have to find it for himself. But the phrasing of Article XII is quite explicit. Since "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States," and Bill is not eligible to serve a third term, he cannot serve as vice president either. Note that the term the XII Amendment uses is "constitutionally ineligible to the office," not "constitutionally ineligible to be elected to the office."
Posted by: whatmeregister | March 21, 2008 5:21 PM
"Too many newcomers have deceived me in the past with their enlightened rhetoric, which is forgotten on election day. I do not get this impression from McCain. He may not be especially eloquent or enlightened but I know that what McCain tells me today he will most likely tell me tomorrow, after election day."
Yes, when John McCain tells you your jobs are gone forever and never coming back, you can count on it in his administration. When he tells you that we'll be in Iraq for another 100 years, you can count on that in his administration. When he tells you ke knows very little about economics but is reading Greenspan's book, you can tell exactly how he will perform in the White House. When he sings about bombing Iran....
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 5:13 PM
You would think that Hillary was the Hispanic candidate after reading the pro-Hillary garbage on this board, or that some Hispanics have more dislike for African-Americans than they do love for their own.
This is the end for Hillary. Soon, Pelosi will endorse Obama debunking the theory that this is nothing more than "the boys secret handshake". John Edwards still might endorse Obama, but he may be leaning Clinton. Still, the nail in the coffin of Hillary will be when Gore endorses Obama.
This IS the Democratic Party rejecting Hillary's lost campaign, and her methods of doing and saying anything to attempt to convince people that she should be given an election that she has so clearly lost.
Bill Richardson is no disgrace to Hispanics. The only thing that is a disgrace to Hispanics are racist Hispanics and as it goes for racists in any culture. Shame on the Clinton Campaign and Hispanics that are disowning Bill Richardson.
This just goes to show how Karl Rove like the Clinton Campaign has become. I remember a time a few years ago when you didn't agree with the Bush Administration then you were branded un-patriotic. Now, the Clinton Campaign is once again resorting to the same kind of tactics...and I say, AGAIN!
You can't just dismiss or disown or degrade the accomplishments of Bill Richardson if you're a Hillary Clinton supporter just because he knows that Obama would make a better president and went against your candidate and her sinking (sunken) ship. The man has been nominated 5 times for a Noble Peace Prize and has more experience than Clinton on Foreign Policy, so please forgive him for not being a racist or giving into Hillary's politics of divide and conquer.
This is the end of the Clinton Campaign, and I'm glad. Could it have died any slower while doing more damage to the party in its sinking than she has allowed it to do?
When Pelosi and Gore and possibly Edwards endorse Obama this will finally prove that the Obama campaign transcends race and gender and finally end this useless election inside the party (which is over, and Hillary lost) and move on to focus on uniting the party that Hillary has divided and defeating John McCain.
Posted by: martinez.anthony.0387 | March 21, 2008 5:06 PM
"Too many newcomers have deceived me in the past with their enlightened rhetoric, which is forgotten on election day. I do not get this impression from McCain. He may not be especially eloquent or enlightened but I know that what McCain tells me today he will most likely tell me tomorrow, after election day."
Clearly, you don't come from Arizona. I do, and know that John McCain is nothing more than a carpet-bagging opportunist. His best time has come and gone.
Posted by: jimcummings | March 21, 2008 5:05 PM
Outside the US Obama is the one. To stop the war in Iraq the US president must help make peace between Israel and the palestinians. I think Obama will do this better than Hillary. If, at last!, an american president will put some pressure on Israel, the US wil gain an enormous boost of popularity in the world. Peace, democracy and end of islamic dictatorship is within reach, if you just dare say "no" to Israel. Just a little bit... It not dangerous america, Israel will not bite you!
Posted by: hakan.strom | March 21, 2008 4:56 PM
Outside the US Obama is the one. To stop the war in Iraq the US president must help make peace between Israel and the palestinians. I think Obama will do this better than Hillary. If, at last!, an american president will put some pressure on Israel, the US wil gain an enormous boost of popularity in the world. Peace, democracy and end of islamic dictatorship is within reach, if you just dare say "no" to Israel. Just a little bit... It not dangerous america, Israel will not bite you!
Posted by: hakan.strom | March 21, 2008 4:56 PM
Outside the US Obama is the one. To stop the war in Iraq the US president must help make peace between Israel and the palestinians. I think Obama will do this better than Hillary. If, at last!, an american president will put some pressure on Israel, the US wil gain an enormous boost of popularity in the world. Peace, democracy and end of islamic dictatorship is within reach, if you just dare say "no" to Israel. Just a little bit... It not dangerous america, Israel will not bite you!
Posted by: hakan.strom | March 21, 2008 4:56 PM
Posted by dotellen on March 21, 2008 02:17 PM:
"... While I will VOTE for whichever Democrat wins, unless there is a woman on the ticket either as the presidential candidate or the vice-presidential candidate, I will not work for, or donate to, the ticket. Women waited longer than black men for the right to vote, and I am not impressed by Obama (and less impressed by BB than I used to be)."
Oh please. Technically, blacks did receive the right to vote before women, but weren't able to exercise that right until 45 years after women did because they were lynched if they tried. Both blacks and women have been disenfranchised in the past, but to say that blacks historically have had it easier than women is laughable and demonstratively false.
A candidate being a woman, or black for that matter, is not a valid mature reason to vote and/or campaign for them. Same thing applies to the vice presidential candidate. You should support based upon the candidate's ability to serve the nation.
To those that continue to disparage Obama with such hateful venom - you show yourselves to be intolerant and with short attention spans, while projecting your own narrow views upon him. You are well within bounds to disagree with what his pastor said, or how he said it. But if you actually listened to Wright's comments objectively, especially in full, in no way are they anti-white or bigoted in any way. They are not even anti-American. They ARE critical of U.S. policies - very strongly so - as which is his right under the First Amendment. Regarding Obama's landmark "A More Perfect Union" speech - if you read or watch it and try to check your cynicism beforehand, instead of simply searching for little "gotcha" snippets, you might see why it had such broad appeal across the political spectrum regardless of ideology.
Second, Obama stated that he hadn't heard in person the aforementioned inflammatory comments specifically. He did *not* say that he hadn't heard *any* controversial comments in his 20 years in the church - most of which had to do with self-reflection and self-inaction as opposed to railing about racial injustices. And think about it - many of Wright's sermons are out there to be seen/heard, and the ONLY clips that were found were 30 seconds of the Hillary clip and the 9/11 clip? Out of 30 years of sermons, three times a week? That's THOUSANDS of sermons, and that's all the opposition found?
And it makes absolutely NO sense to hold Obama responsible for what Wright has said. If that was the case, all of the candidates would have a problem. Voters need to start doing some fact-checking on their own, and stop relying on others with hidden agendas telling them how to think. More voters are doing their homework in this election than ever before. But way too many, including a number of people on these boards, make little if any effort to learn the truth and, as usual, will vote against their own self interests and not even realize it.
Posted by: bbussey | March 21, 2008 4:51 PM
Who CARES about Richardson's Endorsement. Weak, Very Very Weak.
NOBODY CAN BELIEVE WHAT OBAMA HAS TO SAY ANYMORE..... HE'S A LYING RACIST !!....
Posted by: jmj350 | March 21, 2008 4:50 PM
"Wrong. Would you like me to point out the relevant section of the Constitution you overlooked, or can you find it yourself?"
Actually, technically, it is possibly corrct that Bill could be elected VP. The prohibitions of running for a third term as President establish criteria for ELECTION, whereas it doesn't amend the qualifications to HOLD the office, which is the standard the VP is held to. Thus, Clinton couldn't be elected President again, but could hold the office if it fell to him by some other means, while by a strict reading of the Constitution he could be elected VP or hold Cabinet post (or Speaker of the House, etc) where he would be eligible if the office fell to him again. It is a very gray area that has been floated out there and COnstitutional scholars are quite divided on, but I don't see it happening in any case.
Amendment XII
....But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Amendment XXII
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 4:49 PM
"Many Hillary's supporters will vote for McCain, if Obama cheats his way into nomination."
THe nerve of the guy, trying to cheat by winning the delegates and the popular votes. Who does he think he is....
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 4:36 PM
JakeD: "There is, unfortunately, an argument to be made that William JEFFERSON Clinton can serve as Vice-President (keep in mind that the 22nd Amendment only prohibits people from being "elected" three times as President)."
Wrong. Would you like me to point out the relevant section of the Constitution you overlooked, or can you find it yourself?
Posted by: whatmeregister | March 21, 2008 4:36 PM
Richardson can relate to Obama. Both of them have "typical white" mothers.
The democratic party is in a self-destruct mode. Many Hillary's supporters will vote for McCain, if Obama cheats his way into nomination.
Posted by: jsindc | March 21, 2008 4:33 PM
nandssmith:
I'm fed up with Hillary supporters too -- will you join me in pledging to NOT vote for her if she manages to steal the Democratic nomination?
Posted by: JakeD | March 21, 2008 4:27 PM
I had another post here, but it somehow disappeared:
For all the hipocritical conservatives out there who now want to use this "typical" remark as fodder, let me ask you, how many times, at an airport, have you given an Arab a second look since 9-11?
The simple fact is we have avoided a serious issue on race in this country because the leaders who should be taking up the argument won't because they know they will be taken out of context and parsed by people looking to play gotcha politics for selfish gain. Instead, we get bad policy aimed at the symptoms, from busing and Affirmative Action to immigration fearmongering and racial profiling. Let's have real people step up to a serious debate, rather than acknowledging it as "important" while allowing surrogates to play the same old games. This is what the new politics Barack Obama preaches is all about- actually having real, substantive conversations and rejecting the old games of the past.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 4:25 PM
"kreuz_missile |Just how white are you anyway? Something isn't right here?"
I am 75% Scotch-Irish, 25% Austrian (my sig should give that away).
brigittepj, Osama is an Obama supporter? Yeah right.
The son of an inactive Muslim with an Arab name who is now a converted practicing Christian rising to be the leader of the United States- the ultimate symbol that our system is superior to theirs. If there was such a thing as the "anti-Christ" in the Qutbist strain of the Islamic faith, Barack Obama would be it.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 4:12 PM
bnw173,
There are no purely kind people and there are no color blind people.
The thing I wonder about is this intense rage you and the core of the Clinton support now think it ok to unleash. Like, you were sick of being PC but you sort of had to be, but now! gotcha! You don't anymore because look what Obama's pastor said. Right? Right.
Well we all have to reject racism, in ourselves and in everyone else who espouses it with malice. Wright is a dangerous person, I am sure of that.
Obama is not so sure. I am sure.
But there is a lot more going on in the world today than reverse racism and Bill and Hillary's friends are more dangerous to many more people Obama's.
They are all smart people. They all lie.
The question is whom they will install in positions of power. I think we can safely say that this minister is toast. But what about Bill's friends?
Posted by: shrink2 | March 21, 2008 4:06 PM
Bill Richardson's opinion that it is time for the "next generation" sounds like a reiteration of Obama; a signal that not even Richardson wants whatever the Clintons claim to offer. On the point that the Clintons had their chance to lead us to moral victory and can not be trusted again, I agree. On the point that there is a desire and need for leadership change, I agree. But on the point that it is time to put a representative of an opposing minority in charge on grounds of the need for a change or the need to transfer power to the next generation is something which I believe would prove all too soon to be a mistake. Why? Too many newcomers have deceived me in the past with their enlightened rhetoric, which is forgotten on election day. I do not get this impression from McCain. He may not be especially eloquent or enlightened but I know that what McCain tells me today he will most likely tell me tomorrow, after election day.
Posted by: rabidfoxcontrol | March 21, 2008 4:06 PM
You know whats REALLY funny?
People saying something like "Who cares about Richardson, this bearded pro-latino and pro-illegals loser"
and THEN following that with calling Obama of all things, racist - "and right now sounds like the entire country does not want Obama and his racist and anti-American mindset."
Thanks, edla67. I'm tempted to say something about a pot and a kettle but i'm afraid that you'd hear it and call me a racist too.
Unfortunately, that also pretty much sums up the whole entire sentiment of the FoxNews and Hannity and Colmes set.
-*I*- deserve to be racist but -*YOU*- can't.
bravo.
With people like this we'll revert back to the stone ages before we know it.
Posted by: perryair | March 21, 2008 4:02 PM
: kreuz_missile |Just how white are you anyway? Something isn't right here?
Posted by: bnw173 | March 21, 2008 4:01 PM
Wow! How courageous is Bill Richardson? He's joined the Obama Supporters Club? Let's see, there's Rev Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Amedinejahd, Fidel Castro, Ted Kennedy, the New Black Panthers (and the old ones), Osama Bin Laden, John Kerry, That Odinga fellow in Kenya, William Ayers, Tom Daschle, Bernadine Dohrn, Jesse Jackson, Kim Jung Il, Tony Rezko, Al Sharpton, Howard Dean, Rashid Khalidi and Bill Richardson. Did I miss anyone?
Posted by: brigittepj | March 21, 2008 4:01 PM
That's exactly the opposite of what he said. He cited Wright 14 separate times, and called the statements deplorable time and time again, and nodded today when Richardson said the exact same thing. His point was that his grandmother wasn't a racist- she was typical. I've been there myself, seeing a minority on the street somewhere and having an initial moments apprehension, then a second moment's thoguht criticizing myself for thinking that racist thought in a split second. It is a natural reaction, it is common, and it is based on the past 150 years of Jim Crow, "Brith of an Nation," fearmongering on crime, and de facto segregation of society that we need to work through. The only way that will change is through an adult conversation, npot quoting out of context in order to race bait and belittle the very serious and important conversation. Just because you can't win on issues,you go to these pathetic tactics that won't win over any serious person, It's not racist, it's just pathetic.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 4:00 PM
Richardson is an embarrassment to the Hispanic community in this country. We knew that he had sold his soul when he tried to coerce Hillary to quit earlier.
Folks, this man came out of nowhere and thanks to the opportunities that the Clintons offered him generously, he was able to achieve what he has today. Any honorable individual would, out of respect, keep his own counsel until this Primary is over. But greed is sometimes too powerful and he yielded to the pressures of Obama without considering his constituency in New Mexico. I am going to see him with his tail in his legs when he returns because he has forgotten that once supported,now the people will let him know what a fool he is!!!
Also I advise you to take a look at his record which could be questionnable due to harassment.
So, two birds of a feather can fly together. If Obama thought that he could gain Hispanic votes, he is a fool and desperate. Obama has never done anything for Hispanics and we would not forget it when casting our vote!!!
Richardson, the Hispanic community would not forgive what you did and we wish you:
GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
Posted by: Hispana | March 21, 2008 3:56 PM
reuz_missile any way you add it, up, down or sideways he called you, me and his grandmother racist. We are the racist but Rev. Wright is not. Isn't that what he said?
Man, this guy, his wife and supporters deny clearly stated facts and say they did not mean what was said. On the other hand they take Clinton and her supports factual statements and make them racial. You can't have it both ways. Which way is it, please.
How does "for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country" not mean for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country. I'm tired of this double speak, just like his BS speech. Why would I or anyone else believe a word this guy utters?
Posted by: bnw173 | March 21, 2008 3:53 PM
Starting to look that way brigitte.
The Clintons are going to take you single topic voters, their core supporters now, the angry white vote (more concerned about "reverse racism" than any other issue confronting this country) onto the ash-heap of their careers. Consider yourself a victim too many times and you become one.
Posted by: shrink2 | March 21, 2008 3:51 PM
"Obama has used race more than any other candidate in the primary. Dispute that please?"
Prior to this week's speech, when has Obama ever discussed race, besides to say "there is not a white America or a black America, there is the United States of America"?
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:41 PM
And mmarii wins the poll for the first to confirm my suspicion from my 3:13 PM post
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:38 PM
And as Senor Richardson Sticks it to the Clintons, his Former Bosses, the DNC proudly proclaims:
WE are MORE than the Dimocrats. :-)
WE, are the ARISTOCRATS! ;~)
Posted by: rat-the | March 21, 2008 3:36 PM
Obama reaches out to raise the racial dialogue in this countr and speak about it as adultsy, the Clintonists do their best to lower it and squabble like children. That should tell you everything you need to know...
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:36 PM
shrink2,
So I'm a racist because I support Clinton? Yep, you think just like Barack. Damn that's some powerful koolaid!
Posted by: brigittepj | March 21, 2008 3:33 PM
This whole "Obama is a racist" smear is coming straight from the Republican Mouthpiece Fox News and many Clinton Supporters are too biased to even see where their tailor-made arguments are coming from. But to turn the attention back to the GOP nominee: Pastor John Hagee, whose endorsement John McCain was "honored" and "proud" to receive. Hagee says Katrina was God's punishment for homosexuality, Jews are to blame for anti-Semitism, and Catholicism is the "Wh0re of Babylon" and "a cult."1
It gets worse. At the same time they relentlessly reported on Obama's pastor, most network journalists also ignored Rick Parsley, a televangelist who McCain called his "spiritual guide" when accepting his endorsement last month. Parsley has said:
I do not believe our country can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam. I know that this statement sounds extreme, but I do not shrink from its implications. The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed...2
1."Will MSNBC devote as much coverage to McCain's embrace of Hagee's support as it did to Obama's rejection of Farrakhan?" Media Matters, February 28, 2008
http://mediamatters.org/items/200802280018
2."McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam," Mother Jones, March 12, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3519&id=12363-9070005-Isc5if&t=459
Certainly these statements should be every bit as abhorrent to Catholics, Muslims and Jews but you don't hear Fox, MSM parrots or many Clinton supporters ranting about these "spiritual" men. Why is that?
Posted by: Absolute_0-K | March 21, 2008 3:33 PM
Governor Bill Richardson is more concerned about the Democratic Party than the democratic process in the presidential primaries. We have a closed competition. This race is not over. Senator Hillary Clinton is a strong candidate. Lets wait for pending primaries; including Michigan and Florida. Senator Clinton is a fighter. Keep moving forward!
Posted by: mmarii | March 21, 2008 3:32 PM
My analysis of this and numerous other recent posts:
Posts from Hillary supporters (with very few exceptions) are infantile and spew the media sound bites verbatim the same way a child repeats exactly what they hear their parent(s) say. Independent thinking or context is clearly lacking in these posts.
And the name calling from Hillary supporters is beyond ridiculous and immature: "He's fat", "He's racist" etc.
On the other hand, the posts from the Obama supporters (for the most part) are mature - and grounded in intellect, logic and independent thinking.
I will go with Obama. The Hillary supporters with their ignorant, childish, ugly rants represent everything that's wrong with this country I love.
Hillary supporters have completely turned me off.
Posted by: nandssmith | March 21, 2008 3:31 PM
"but if, as recent polls suggest, "typical white people" won't vote for Barack"
I am a typical white person. I am voting for Barack. As are many I know. The fact is the Dem primary is over, it's time to move forward to the general election. This nonsense about his remarks ("typical") are more expected low brow politics, and they won't fly because they are nonsense. He wasn't saying "prototypical" or "stereotypical," he meant an average person in everyday life who was not a committed racist or activists, and that is exactly what was stated and implied. You win no votes trying to sell that the American people are too dumb to understand that, maybe it's just you Hillary fanatics who still can't read the writing on the wall.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:31 PM
Wow, the Clintons' supporters are hurting today. Scary racist creeps all over the boards. Are you proud of yourselves? Get online and call Obama a monkey? Good thing you are doing this, you'll bring a lot of voters to Bill and Hillary, they're proud of having you behind them.
wmaster you called Bill Richardson an opportunist. So, ahm, what are you saying?
He shouldn't get off a sinking ship?
Right wing Latinos never liked Richardson, so you won't be missed.
Posted by: shrink2 | March 21, 2008 3:30 PM
Hillary is the corporate DLC candidate who will continue to sell us out, just like when her husband signed NAFTA and helped the Repukes send millions of American jobs out of the country.
I see little difference between Hillary and McSame. They are both corporate and would NOT represent the interests of the people.
I refuse to vote for any candidate who is going to screw me. And Hillary has her strap-on ready.
Posted by: TomIII | March 21, 2008 3:29 PM
My God!! There is so much racist angst directed towards Obama (and Richardson for supporting Obama), that it is really a testament to what Obama addressed in his speech regarding racial divides and acrimony. I
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Are you still using that BS, cover my butt, speech as gospel? My God, he called his grandmother a racist. Sold her down the river to try and get out of a political mess he made himself. HOW LOWLIFE CAN ONE BE. ARE YOU HONESTLY STILL SUPPORTING HIM?
Obama has used race more than any other candidate in the primary. Dispute that please?
Posted by: bnw173 | March 21, 2008 3:27 PM
Posted by: cheersdk | March 21, 2008 02:24 PM
2. Second, with this b.s. passport breach news. I'm sure they knew of this long ago, but, Obama's campaing is trying to use it now to sway attention.
Hey Silly... did you see they have all been breached. I guess they all knew and ignored it... It is really sad. You are obviously one of the racist that he is speaking of.
Posted by: adonalson | March 21, 2008 3:24 PM
here svreader -
From today's Dallas Morning News:
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright's fiery commentary about America went beyond the usual political discourse but reflected long-held frustrations that African-Americans often release at churches and other social settings, local black pastors say.
It's those stark observations, created by generations of oppression and racism, that Barack Obama attempted to put into context Tuesday for Americans troubled by sound bites of Mr. Wright's sermons that "damned" the United States and blamed the nation's own actions for the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
Many black Dallas pastors view Mr. Wright as a longtime hero and mentor, defending his message and bridling at what they call media misrepresentation of it.
Also Online
Analysis: Barack Obama takes big risk by addressing race conflict
"I have preached at Trinity [Mr. Wright's church in Chicago] and he has preached here," said the Rev. Tyrone Gordon, pastor at St. Luke Community United Methodist Church in Dallas. "One thing I said to the church on this past Sunday is that a lot of us are taking it personally because it is an attack on the whole black prophetic experience."
But for whites who have never been in a black church, Mr. Wright's words could have seemed extremist and even bizarre.
Mr. Obama tried to shed light on Tuesday.
"Trinity's services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear," Mr. Obama said Tuesday. "The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and, yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America."
Supporters acknowledge that the Wright controversy could be difficult for Mr. Obama to overcome, but they say he made a good first step by introducing Americans to the black church experience.
Former Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk, an Obama supporter, predicted that some voters will abandon Mr. Obama because of the presidential contest's sudden racial tone.
"There's a segment of the voting populace with folks looking for an excuse to be against him," Mr. Kirk said. Many black Dallas pastors say Mr. Wright's comments have been misinterpreted by whites unfamiliar with the black experience in America.
"There is a huge disconnect that is rooted in ignorance," said the Rev. Frederick Haynes III, pastor of Friendship West Baptist Church in Oak Cliff. "Unfortunately, it took the media lynching of Jeremiah Wright for us to once again deal with the unresolved issue of race in this country."
Dr. Gordon, who said he counts the pastor he calls "Daddy J" as a spiritual mentor, rejects any suggestion that Mr. Wright is himself racist.
Traditional black preaching - particularly from men of Mr. Wright's generation - carries a style and cadence far different from that found in most white churches. It is frequently delivered in Old Testament prophetic style, in which sins are recounted, punishment promised, repentance called for - with emotion and entertainment value at a premium.
"Black preaching is provocative and steps on everybody's toes," said the Rev. Sheron Patterson, senior pastor at Highland Hills United Methodist Church in Dallas. "Black preaching is cathartic for the preacher and for the congregation."
Black audiences familiar with the style probably hear a more nuanced theology in some of Mr. Wright's quotes than what comes across from the videos filling the newscasts and Web sites.
Take the sound bite that is getting the most play, the 2003 sermon in which he repeatedly said: "God [condemn] America." It's part of a longer passage that condemns the U.S. government for a number of transgressions against blacks, including "treating our citizens as less than human."
And that, some other black pastors say, is a traditional use of the prophetic voice by a preacher named after the Old Testament prophet who condemned the nation of Israel in the name of God.
"Shall I not bring retribution on a nation such as this?" Jeremiah says, speaking for God. "They shall become as dung on the face of the earth. And death will be preferable to life for all that are left of this wicked folk."
But both the contemporary and biblical Jeremiahs are the truest of patriots, Mr. Gordon said.
"They preached it because they did love their country and wanted their country to be a spiritual leader in the world," Mr. Gordon said.
Posted by: gandalfthegrey | March 21, 2008 3:24 PM
Can't wait to see the full disclosure of Bill's "date" book.
Posted by: Martinedwinandersen
Can't wait to see the full disclosure of Chimpy's "date" book.
Chimpy had a MALE HOOKER in the White House for two years. Chimpy is rumored to be bi.
Posted by: TomIII | March 21, 2008 3:23 PM
...now we find the always craven, often laughable svreader invoking prayers against Obama...to God.
Told you they were going to court the religious right. It is the natural next step for the Clintons - get back to your cracker roots. See Bill visit "Liberty University" any day now.
The way Bill Clinton rebuilt the D party was to rid it of its substantive difference from the R party. They call it "embracing the center".
So go ahead, stop threatening and just vote for McCain, in many ways he is so much more a part of America's center than the Clintons. Why did they pretend to be yankees? They look as out of place in New York as the shrub does at daddy's beach house on the coast of Maine.
Educated people worry that the Clintons' embrace of all that is reactionary and frightened in America's center these days. It amounts to nothing more than jostling the Republicans for a seat at their table.
Posted by: shrink2 | March 21, 2008 3:23 PM
Wow, after reading this there is still so much hate in America. All of you frighten the hell out of me and I hope you are not tainting your children with such BS. Are you all still so caught up in race issue that you can not see the damage it is doing to the next generation. Stop being so evil and learn to look to your right and left and love.
Posted by: rth_proctor | March 21, 2008 3:22 PM
Write doesn't like racist white people.
That is not racism or bigotry.
I'm sick of you white whiners going boo hoo hoo when you have everything.
Get over it.
(And I am white)
Posted by: TomIII | March 21, 2008 3:21 PM
This week we got a heavily redacted view of Hillary's date book.
Can't wait to see the full disclosure of Bill's "date" book.
Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | March 21, 2008 3:20 PM
kreuz missile,
I hate to rain on your parade but if, as recent polls suggest, "typical white people" won't vote for Barack, he has virtually no chance of winning anything.
Posted by: brigittepj | March 21, 2008 3:20 PM
What an ungrateful bastard this is. Held two posts in the Clinton Administration, knows she's the best person to lead and still endorses the inferior candidate SOB. What an opportunist. He is history. WE LATINO WON'T FORGET THIS ONE BILL.
Posted by: wmaster | March 21, 2008 3:19 PM
Posted by: badger3
quote:
There's a recent poll out.
1 out of 4 Hillary supporters say they will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee.
1 out 10 Obama supporters say theyw ill not vote for Hillary if she is the nominee.
:end quote
All that proves is that 1 in 4 Hillary supporters are DINOs. Probably a lot of these people are the same ones who gave us Reagan and both Bush Administrations. "Brats" you say? You just defined the meaning of the word as 1 in 4 Clinton supporters.
Posted by: Absolute_0-K | March 21, 2008 3:18 PM
If Barack wins the nominatio, I'll vote for him. If Hillary wins the nomination, I'll vote for her. There's no way I'd ever vote for McBush.
Posted by: MatthewM1 | March 21, 2008 3:18 PM
Bill Richardson is one of the best governors that New Mexico has ever had. While the rest of the country is losing good manufacturing jobs there are lots of good green energy, high technological, and film jobs moving to New Mexico. What Bill Richardson said today and what Obama stands for is the what is best that New Mexico has to offer where people of different cultures, lifestyles and backgrounds can live in the same neighborhoods without the weird hate stuff that exists in the rest of the country. I shopped in a barrio in Albuquerque yesterday and most of the people there support Obama.
Posted by: nixonnow_72 | March 21, 2008 3:18 PM
"If it takes him 20 years to figure out his pastor is a bigot ...how can we trust his judgement on anything."
How many years did Hillary stand by Bill?
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:17 PM
There are racists of all colors.
Even Black ones.
That's what Rev Wright is.
Being Black doesn't give someone permission to be a bigot.
Posted by: svreader | March 21, 2008 3:17 PM
Stop calling Wright a racist.
It is not racism to hate racists.
Posted by: TomIII | March 21, 2008 3:15 PM
My God!! There is so much racist angst directed towards Obama (and Richardson for supporting Obama), that it is really a testament to what Obama addressed in his speech regarding racial divides and acrimony. I'm very saddened by the things that are being said and the lies and untruths that are generated by some hateful posters. This country is in for a world of trouble if ALL of it's citizens don't start to be civilized towards one another. I may not like GWB, but I've never said the type of negative and stereotypical ranting that folks are now saying about Obama. It is just so shameful.
Posted by: jazzspot_55 | March 21, 2008 3:15 PM
Richarson it is about time you made the right choice!!! GOOD WORK!!! Edwards we are waiting...
OBAMA '08
As for all the mudslinging...people we want unity in the democratic party, and if you want to jump sides because your candidate did not win the nomination you are a SELFISH individual...
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Posted by: tru2shani | March 21, 2008 3:14 PM
jovit --
I've got lots of friends of all colors, religions, nationalities, and political viewpoints.
I get that lots of Blacks are angry.
Life isn't fair for anybody.
That's the cookie crumbles.
The best thing society can do is provide a level playing field for all.
I'm shocked and angry that race hatred is being preached in a house of worship, and that so many people defend the people who do it.
Posted by: svreader | March 21, 2008 3:13 PM
And, because I know the standard Clinton line now is "wait for Pennsylvania, everyone gets a vote":
"One reason [for journalists buying into a cliffhangar race] is fear of embarrassment. In its zeal to avoid predictive reporting of the sort that embarrassed journalists in New Hampshire, the media -- including Politico -- have tended to avoid zeroing in on the tough math Clinton faces. Avoiding predictions based on polls even before voters cast their ballots is wise policy. But that's not the same as drawing sober and well-grounded conclusions about the current state of a race after millions of voters have registered their preferences.
The antidote to last winter's flawed predictions is not to promote a misleading narrative based on the desired but unlikely story line of one candidate."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html
In other words, this isn't about declaring the presidential winner based on polls the day before the election, this is like declaring Reagan the winner in 1984 before the West Coast results came in- they weren't going to change he outcome.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:13 PM
Richardson just got bought with a promise for VP to help Obama out of this media nightmare.
Anyone that can support someone with such poor judgement should not be looked at as VP.
Obama dedicated his book...20 years of his church going life...and about 2,000$ a week to a hate spewing bigot....he calls "like a uncle to me"....
And I am supposed to be worried about Clintons judgement?
If it takes him 20 years to figure out his pastor is a bigot ...how can we trust his judgement on anything.
The media will let this die down and let him throw everything but the kitchen sink at us ( form letters from prayer breakfasts, passport breeches from January..puhleasse!) to make us forget he is a complete phony.
Blah Blah ...Hope.. (hate)... Blah Blah... Change.. (same old thing)... Blah Blah ... Hope and Change..( just another politician)... Blah!
This guy has no chance against McCain now and he and his wife have helped solidify the mistaken belief that liberals "hate" America.. Thanks Obamabots!!!
NOBAMA 2008 Hypocrisy Tour.
Featuring his #1 Hit
"Words Matter"
Keep hope alive the superdelegates do what is right and vote for Hillary!
Posted by: cleocat | March 21, 2008 3:12 PM
Darn, Kreuz_Missile,
You beat me to it.
Time to rally around the winner, for the good of the country!
Happy holiday!
Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | March 21, 2008 3:11 PM
How much money has McCain donated to Robertson or Falwell or any of the others that Obama supporters are trying to build a case for moral equivalence?
We know Obama gave at least $20,000 in one year.
Posted by: edbyronadams | March 21, 2008 3:08 PM
svreader, et al, I hate raining on your parade (no, not really):
The Politico: Clinton has "virtually no chance at winning"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html
"One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.
Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party's most reliable constituency.
Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote -- which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle -- and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.
People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.
As it happens, many people inside Clinton's campaign live right here on Earth. One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives.
In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe."
Posted by: kreuz_missile | March 21, 2008 3:08 PM
Governor Richardson has vast international negotiation experience and has been nominated for the nobel peace prize on four separate occasions. The Clinton campaign fought hard for this endorsement, but ultimately Governor Richardson made his choice for the integrity and change of the guard that Senator Obama brings to the table. It is disengenuous of Mrs. Clinton to claim she never wanted him after she and her husband and her daughter and every politician she could snare, called him every day for months to ask for his endorsement. He said last month that the Clintons tended toward cluster bomb techniques and Obama to surgical air strike. Obama made a short personal call to him once every week or two. Governor Richardson has said for some time that he has been very upset about the negative campaign methods that have been used and the harm they bring to the democratic party. It was most likely his loyalty to the Clintons that prevented him from taking action before Texas where he would have wielded great influence among the Hispanic voters. As it was, Mrs. Clinton won the popular vote in Texas by a very narrow margin but when the caucuses were counted, she lost the delegate count to Obama by a margin sufficient to negate the delegates she netted in Ohio. Governor Richardson's endorsement certainly adds significantly to Senator Obama's chances in the general election when the people of Hispanic origin will form a major voting block. Thank you for your support Governor.
Posted by: karela | March 21, 2008 3:07 PM
Hillary's strategist Mark Penn is a scumbag.
He did PR work for Blackwater, the murdering mercenaries. And he is a union-basher.
Not only that, but one of Penn's co-workers, in a subsidiary of his PR house, is the strategist for McInsane.
Hillary is not a real Democrat. She's DLC.
Anybody who votes for Hillary is a fool.
Posted by: TomIII | March 21, 2008 3:07 PM
Yawn.... Bill Richardson, and all of his 10 supporters. Let's make this a huge deal somehow, polls show Clinton has the upper hand, the media can't let this happen!
Posted by: mattwhitcomb | March 21, 2008 3:06 PM
joy2 --
I'm not.
I'm angry that this kind of thing was not only going on, but accepted.
I don't think all Blacks think this way.
I expected Wright to be roundly condemned by the mainstream Black community.
That hasn't happened.
Instead, most posts defend Wright.
That's shocking.
In my community, such a person would be a pariah.
Racism is wrong no matter who it froms from and who its directed towards.
Nobody should get a "free pass" for it.
Its wrong.
Posted by: svreader | March 21, 2008 3:05 PM
So all of you who wouldn't vote for Obama because of his pastor would vote for McCain. McCain who sought the endorsement of Pat Robertson. McCain who gave the commencement speech at Liberty University.
Falwell believed that puppets were gay. And they both had this to say after 9/11:
JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats -- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.
JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.
JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of o

According to Bill Richardson this is pay-back time for having been ignored during his presidential bid. Also, when Richardson was asked about his support for Obama, he replied, "Why not give someone else a chance. It has been Bush, Clinton
Bush . .." THAT WAS HIS REPLY.