The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

The people of the USA should be wary of a candidate who Talks like he know more than the voters so they should just believe that he will represent all Americans and bring us together. He talks like he is preaching , almost like a prophet who will save us all. We need a real person who is really one of us , been through tough times , and still puts her country ahead of herself in the pursuit of a better America . Hillary was there when the USA rose to new heights of prosperity, and honored around the world. She also brings along with her a very good advisor who has experience and the best interests of America at heart.

Waaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah! Hillary and Co. ought to stop crying. They are the ones who have double standards. Hillary wants people to buy her lies hook, line, and sinker. Remember NAFTA--on March 7, 2008, an AP article titled 'Report Questions Clinton's NAFTA Position' revealed that a CTV reporter heard a Canadian official (Ian Brodie) implicate one of Hillary's surrogates of stating that "Clinton's campaign [was] telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. ... That someone called us and told us not to worry," . Ohio went for Hillary's line, but the question should be did she use this ploy knowing that she was the one REALLY posturing for votes. She accused Obama of doing the very thing that SHE had done concerning NAFTA. Stop Crying. Stop Lying! Accusing Obama of a Double Standard?!! And they said this with a straight face?

I find it amazing that the Clinton supporters are willing to attempt to destroy Obama because of what his minister said in a few isolated situations. As a African American friend said the other day, "if we were to leave our church every time our minister made a political statement with which we disagreed, most of us could only go to each church one time!" Obama has repudiated the remarks in question. That should be sufficient. To repudiate the man would not only be an unchristian reaction, but show a real lack of loyalty that I would find disturbing. My daughter has very strong political beliefs that counter everything that I hold dear to me. At every opportunity, I will and do repudiate her statements and her beliefs. I love my daughter unconditionally, and will never repudiate her as a person. Most of us have family members or dear friends that who meet this same criteria.
Obama brings a new spirit, a brilliant mind, and a level of integrity to the political process that we have not seen in many, many years. I am not a Hillary hater. I will admit to being MUCH less impressed with her, and unfortunately Bill as well, as a result of a campaign that I have found repulsive on many levels. But at her best, she is a continuation of a failed leadership that has left the USA in the unenviable position that we find ourselves on many fronts. A working definition of insanity is one who repeats the same behavior anticipating different results. Obama is the only candidate left standing who does not represent a repeating of the same behavior, and we simply cannot afford any more insanity in our country.

Double standards and double (or more) support from the media.

Obama has double standards. He doesn't like his pastor's anti-U.S.rantings or the racist spewing. Yet, for all of his children's lives, he takes them to services
every Sunday so that they can hear these rantings. If he truly does not believe in this rhetoric wouldn't it be wiser to take them to a different church so that they could learn the true meaning of being a Christian and not learn the spewing of hate? Obama, if he is so enchanted by his pastor's goodness, could still keep in touch with him, outside of the church and his girls' brains would not become rattled.
Obama is also duplicitous. He makes campaign promises during his plagiarized speeches but he now calls them campaign "plans" which do not have to be honored. [ e.g. Nafta and Iraq ]. What about his other promises/plans? If one would look at "Samantha Power - Israel" the website for his ex-advisor's articles and interviews, one would find some very anti-Israel opinions and plans, quite contrary to Obama's pledges on Israel. There is also an article by Ed Lasky, editor of the American Thinker, in which Mr. Lasky describes [ with confirming articles from which he got his information]
Obama as forming an advisory group for his foreign policy. Four of the five members are known anti-Israel sympathizers.Can it be that he will consider his promises to the Jews and to the Rabbis on support for Israel as being a "plan" that he does not have to honor? A worse scenario could be an invasion of Israel, suggested by Ms. Power.
In watching Obama these last few months, I
have found him to lack a number of qualities that a President should have. The fact that he can not be trusted to honor his own words has added fuel to the fire.I wish those who have succombed to his rhetoric will come out their hypnosis
and realize that it is not Obama's actions that have created an image of Presidential
material but only his words, which were not even his words most of the time.
Actions speak much louder than words and he has not been very active, except in the
cause of his being deceitful.

I listened countless times to Senator Obama's words during the marathonian debates:

"I fully agree with Hillary..." "I fully agree with her"...

The media honeymoon being over post-SNL, BO was forced to make a politically expedient for his survival Speech. But why did he not make the speech 20 years earlier to the congregation and challenged his uncle, or at least have a "conversation"? Where was the Love? Where was the Hope?

Where was His Judgement? On holidays perhaps?

Why didn't he protest the wild in-the-Pulpit gyrations simulating a sex act (referring to Bill 'loving' the congregants as much as he 'loved' Monica) while his two young girls were listening to Hate Speeches certain to leave angry scars for the rest of their lives? He did complain, to his credit, about Imus' disgustingly "stereotypical" sexist and racist remarks about the young college women last year!

Why did he fail to protect the children of his own congregation?

Trying to disenfranchise millions of voters in two big states is not exactly "democratic". And his thinly veiled "likeable enough" comment to Hillary didn't sound too hopeful for women's issues. In fact, it showed his deepseated misogyny and disrespect for women of all colours!

Let's HOPE he agrees with Hillary again and starts showing some democratic spirit and pushes for the vote. Howard Dean said a couple of years ago that he was certain that "Hillary Clinton would make a good president". BO shouldn't have any real difficulty convincing him. Aren't Ego and Arrogance 'sins' anymore? He should ask his grandother for some quick advice. That is if she's still speaking with Him!

I listened countless times to Senator Obama's words during the marathonian debates:

"I fully agree with Hillary..." "I fully agree with her"...

The media honeymoon being over post-SNL, BO was forced to make a politically expedient for his survival Speech. But why did he not make the speech 20 years earlier to the congregation and challenged his uncle, or at least have a "conversation"? Where was the Love? Where was the Hope?

Where was His Judgement? On holidays perhaps?

Why didn't he protest the wild in-the-Pulpit gyrations simulating a sex act (referring to Bill 'loving' the congregants as much as he 'loved' Monica) while his two young girls were listening to Hate Speeches certain to leave angry scars for the rest of their lives? He did complain, to his credit, about Imus' disgustingly "stereotypical" sexist and racist remarks about the young college women last year!

Why did he fail to protect the children of his own congregation?

Trying to disenfranchise millions of voters in two big states is not exactly "democratic". And his thinly veiled "likeable enough" comment to Hillary didn't sound too hopeful for women's issues. In fact, it showed his deepseated misogyny and disrespect for women of all colours!

Let's HOPE he agrees with Hillary again and starts showing some democratic spirit and pushes for the vote. Howard Dean said a couple of years ago that he was certain that "Hillary Clinton would make a good president". BO shouldn't have any real difficulty convincing him. Aren't Ego and Arrogance 'sins' anymore? He should ask his grandother for some quick advice. That is if she's still speaking with Him!

I have the advantage most Americans dream of, to live in a politically mature and civilized society. I have it; as a US citizen, a WW2 Veteren living in Canada I now view my country with the same disdain that is shown by most paople in the world. I did not escape from the US, my profession brought me here and subsequently I married a Canadian started a family and chose to stay. However I meet many other ex-pats who have escaped whether from "mad Joe", Viet Nam or from the many other violations of Human Rights that most Americans have come to accept as "Freedoms" in a gun toting society hiding behind an archaic constitution. There are millions of John McCain's in the world, but only one got to the Senate and was able to gain media attention to exploit his war receord. Does that make him a credible candidate? NO! Do I think that Bill Clinton is a McCarthyite? YES! Re-read his Preidential papers and you will come to the conclusion the General did
by listening to his speech. Hillary Clinton expounds the voice of Josef Goebbels and relishes in the thought of a life of pure Ayrian (read White) culture. Obama was not expected to get this far and so the real game begins. The comments in this column from Democrats who will support McCain should Obama get the nomination has nothing to do with what his Pastor said, IT IS ALL ABOUT RACISM, still very much alive and now rearing it's ugly head. Four months ago a Canadian Radio commentater predicted this state which we now discusss, as I have stated I live in a politically mature and civilzed society. Regardless of how Americans vote, whether it be Black, White or Fascist nothing will change. We will still lack the health care, education and Freedom of other progressive countries. We will still lie and cheat to start unjust wars, we will still kill and rape and pillage in the Third World to steal Black Gold and we will claim that we have the right to do it, for after all, "We are Americans and IN GOD WE TRUST>

re: Typical White Person's "A little truth and balance from the media wouldn't hurt. Obama lied about his pastor ('I never heard him make controversial statements"- 3 days later-"yes, of course I heard him say things that were controversial')".

This has been misquoted. Obama said "I never heard him make SUCH INFLAMMATORY statements". This does not contradict the statement he made in his speech about controversial statements. It's a straw man argument on the part of the press.

I feel Obama took a very strong stand against Wright's statements. Much stronger than, say, McCain has taken against Jerry Falwell's extremist and hateful statements blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of September 11. Or his comment about AIDS: "AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals." McCain happily accepted Falwell's endorsement, with no one clamoring for him to renounce Falwell.

Seems like this campaign is getting lower and lower into the sludge judging fom the child-like mud throwing in the press and on the blogs. Remember the early made for TV (peace and love staged debates?), It is now a debate about who is the biggest liar.
Well ,the Clinton's have many more years of lies, but both sides have their aides working diligently to search for some more more slime to throw on the other candidate.

Really, its Hilarious. Both Hillary's false claim of so much experience, which I knew was absurd, and Obama's 'fresh, new politics having been born from the most corrupt U.S. city for decades, Chicago, was certaily laughable before the first primary for anyone who knows anything about the political history.

This is what campaigns based on carefully manipulated superficial rhetoric suddenly turn unto.

The Clinton's know this is their last attempt at power, so they are undoubtedly, going to pull out all stops, lies, garbage trucks, subterfuge, etc. to win. This is only because the public, at the beginning had tired of Bush's and the Clinton's hold on power. Obama, because of the Clinton's attrocious campaign, mostly on the behalf of Bill, has it almost won, without having his background talked about. He's going to be on the defensive from now to the convention, believe me. The Clinton's are people who have to win at all costs. I said, at least Nixon, early in his long career, had the class to walk away from the 1960 predential election he probably got cheated out of (by the Chicago mob). Obviously the Clinton's have never lost oan election, and are willing to destroy the party and the government if need be (ala Richard Nixon in 1973-1974) and even if they succeed in getting the winning nomination and general election, HRC will have very little political capital on Capitol Hill, or with most people.

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country"

The why is not the issue, it was the statement. So do I believe her? That that was their NO other significant event in America where she was proud?
Spin it all you want, the rest of us see them both for what they really are. Just another politician filled with hot air.

Where is Reverend Wright??!??

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country, not because of the interest in Barack but because voters are hopeful and ready for change."

ajtiger92,

That is one quote where the whole thing sounds just as bad or worse as the sound bite. The sound bite makes her sound unpatriotic, the full-quote self-centered and entitled.

Isn't it odd that Richardson claims the superdelegates should vote the way their voters did, but then throws his own superdelegate vote, not for Clinton who won his state, but for Obama? (The same for Kerry and Kennedy in Massachusetts.)

I am getting pretty bored about the fact that the Obama Campaign uses every little commentary to immediately counter-attack and bring out the race card and distract voters from the real issues. The economy is down the drain, the lack of health insurance, the bail outs of dozens of mortgage companies and wall street firms. Also, I am getting pretty bored of Senator Obama bringing out in every possible opportunity the fact that Hillary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq. With the information presented to her and not to Senator Obama she voted for the war. She got scared. Big deal. Senator Obama never makes mistakes. He just lies and flip-flops. Lies about never hearing about the hateful sermons of Reverend Wright, lies about meeting with controversial Country leaders without preconditions, lies about getting troops out of Iraq, all of them at once and now, after being accused of not being patriotic enough, he gives his race sermon surrounded by seven American flags. Give me a break. Get to the real issues. Boring has Senator Clinton is, she knows what she is doing. She has real experience. She is well knon. Nobody really knows Senator Obama. Two years in the Senate do not qualify anybody for the White House. He belongs in the movies or the pulpit. He speaks very well and thinks very well. That's it.

cdemar...if you going to recite something at least have the decency to recite the entire passage. Michelle Obama said: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country, not because of the interest in Barack but because voters are hopeful and ready for change."

That is part of the problem of today's society, we want tiny sound bites of information instead of the entire truth, because of our low attention span.

Sorry Burrdie... this primary process is not about creating new math (i.e. Hillary wins in big state primaries by margins of less than 10% and will win in a general election). These primaries and caucuses are about winning the most pledged delegates, always has been and always will be.

For Hillary to use the argument that she is the only Democrat who can win New Jersey, New York and California in a general election is dumb. Obama garnered nearly more votes than McCain and Huckabee combined. If Obama is the nominee and the party united by convention time, Obama should win New Jersey, New York, and California, traditional Democratic-voting states comfortably over McCain in a general election.

Sorry Burrdie... this primary process is not about creating new math (i.e. Hillary wins in big state primaries by margins of less than 10% and will win in a general election). These primaries and caucuses are about winning the most pledged delegates, always has been and always will be.

For Hillary to use the argument that she is the only Democrat who can win New Jersey, New York and California in a general election is dumb. Obama garnered nearly more votes than McCain and Huckabee combined. If Obama is the nominee and the party united by convention time, Obama should win New Jersey, New York, and California, traditional Democratic-voting states comfortably over McCain in a general election.

And let's not forget what a patriotic first lady we would have in Michelle! Just think how proud to be an American she'd be then

The paranoia coming out of the Obama camp is pathetic. Everytime their back is against the wall, they lash out at the Clintons to try and deflect attention away from themselves. They did it after they lost NH by claiming the Clinton's comments were racist, now they're grasping at straws saying this comment implied Obama was unpatriotic.

Sorry, Obama, but President Clinton's comment does not anywhere near imply that you are unpatriotic like your 20 year association with Rev Wright does.

"It is funny and sad to read all these self-professed Democrats claiming to vote for McCain over Obama if Hillary is not the nominee.

Obama could really end the whole thing if he offered Hillary the VP. Roughly 50% of Democrats want her as the nominee. We could go into June with Hillary on a win streak which will create a very contentious convention. Obama really started all the negativity by saying the Clinton Presidency was no better than Bush and spinning the MLK and Jesse Jackson comments into racial slurs. If Obama was a "uniter" like he claims, he would offer Hillary the VP and let her be in charge of her signature issue: universal health care. Then he would get HRC's supporters behind him. I do not see that happening because he is too arrogant. So you will get a fight to the bitter end.

Double Standard?!?! The Clintons re-invented the term Double Standard from the 1990s. Of course Bill Clinton did not directly accused Obama of being unpatriotic, that would have been suicidal for the Hillary campaign. But Bill Clinton did indirectly suggest that Obama didn't love his country.

Bill Clinton said: "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country."

This statement by former President Bill Clinton implies that McCain and Hillary are the only candidates that love and care about this country. All three candidates love and care about this country. Once again Bill Clinton is in double-speak mode. Over the past 6 months Bill Clinton was touting all the Democratic nominees were good Amercicans, but his rhetoric has changed.

The so called leaders of the democratic party can end this now - they choose not to. The so-called superdelagtes can be polled and the results published. It would end this one way or the other. The reality is they want this battle. The party has no leadership. As a result, they will, once again, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I feel Obama has yet to show his true colors (no pun intended) His judgment was challenged here in Chicago when he endorsed a completely incapable idiot for the county's' board president. He did so knowing the man was not qualified. Kind of a quid pro quo move with the rest of the Dem cronies.

The latest poll showing Obama ahead was taken with only 1200 people. At the end of last week she was ahead by 7. It is not polls, it is the fact she has and will take every big state that has lots of electorial delegates to beat McCain.
Obama is running scared so now he has resorted to dirty tactics. Thought he was above such thing? WRONG.
Hillary will win Pa WV Ind. and KY. and Obama knows it. I am waiting for his speech on the economy and how much he copies from her speech today.
He is a loser and will lose.

"Let's look at the facts:

1. Hillary Clinton voted for NAFTA but now she says that she wants to make some changes to it."

kbvt127,

Hillary Clinton was not a Senator when NAFTA passed in 1994. I think your "facts" are opinions or fabrications.

The Campaign of Obama so far suffers from the same reason Socrates challenged the Sophists, and was condemned to death according to the Greek historian, Kyriakidis, in that "truth is what suits the individual's interest and goodness is what serves the individual."

Socrates believed in the objective reality of truth and felt that virtue came, if at all, from knowing oneself. Socrates ultimately lost, put on trial, and sentenced to death in 399 B.C.

I am deeply saddened and my poor little heart is breaking seeing all the Democrats tearing into each other like this! :-(

What more can I say?

AXES! Get your Axes! I have got Hatchets! Spears! Swords! GET YOURS TODAY!

Remember, Do onto OTHERS First! Get your Weapons here, and get a Spare!!!!! ;~)

Now begins the rebound of Americans who step back and say --- "wait a minute, Barack DID NOT SAY any of that - did he?" "No - he did not!" Barack rejected those radical opinions of Jeremiah Wright.

Here is an excerpted example from today's NY TIMES:

Obama and Race
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: March 20, 2008

Barack Obama this week gave the best political speech since John Kennedy talked about his Catholicism in Houston in 1960, and it derived power from something most unusual in modern politics: an acknowledgment of complexity, nuance and legitimate grievances on many sides. It was not a sound bite, but a symphony.

But the furor over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's inflammatory sermons shows that Mr. Obama erred in an earlier speech -- the 2004 speech to the Democratic National Convention that catapulted him to fame.

In that speech, Mr. Obama declared that "there is not a black America and a white America... . There's the United States of America." That's a beautiful aspiration, and we're making progress toward it. But this last week has underscored that we're not nearly there yet.

The outrage over sermons by Mr. Wright demonstrates how desperately we as a nation need the dialogue about race that Mr. Obama tried to start with his speech on Tuesday.

Many well-meaning Americans perceive Mr. Wright as fundamentally a hate-monger who preaches antagonism toward whites.

But those who know his church say that is an unrecognizable caricature: He is a complex figure and sometimes a reckless speaker, but one of his central messages is not anti-white hostility but black self-reliance.

"The big thing for Wright is hope," said Martin Marty, one of America's foremost theologians, who has known the Rev. Wright for 35 years and attended many of his services. "You hear 'hope, hope, hope.' Lots of ordinary people are there, and they're there not to blast the whites. They're there to get hope."

Professor Marty said that as a white person, he sticks out in the largely black congregation but is always greeted with warmth and hospitality. "It's not anti-white," he said. "I don't know anybody who's white who walks out of there not feeling affirmed."

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Now, once the haters and those hungry for a reason to hate have had their initial say, now that the first FLUSH of untinking rhetoric has passed - the millions of us who believe that Obama represents a new beginning for our beloved America will remember how is was that we came to believe in this young American.

We will think about everything and conclude that Obama is not Wright -- and never was. Obama did not do a single thing wrong. Not One. He went to a famous Christian church. That's it.

Obama is like the most of us -- we've all heard the racist stuff in our lives --- often from a member of our family or someone at work, or out in the neighborhood --- and we try to be better than that racist rant or bigoted chant.

Obama offers a leadership to move us into a new era of honest, calm consideration of our country - as wonderful and imperfect as it is.

That is all he's ever offered. He said that he can't heal America - but that he can help start the process by not ducking and dodging the tough issues.

He said WE have to heal America. I think we can.

Meanwhile there are a lot of other things to do- as well. Bringing the stupid war to a successful close and shutting off the money spigot to the middle east is where we can start.

I have a question for Hillary-supporters, if at the end of the Democratic nomination process, Hillary supports Obama as the nominee will you, Hillary-supporters, follow suit?
Posted by: ajtiger92 |
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Hillary will support Obama if he wins. I won't.

I believe you sheep should lister to what your candidate says. He stated that Clinton supporters will support him but he didn't think his supporters would support her. Dumbo used that as an analogy for voting for him. I listen to both and I remember. I can't visualize a supporter not knowing what their candidate states. Maybe sheep but not average people? What a shame?

someone explain to me:

why should McPeak be fired from Obama's staff because he compared Bill to McCarthy yet Penn (or was it Wolfson) can compare Obama to Ken Starr and they get a free pass?

NOW THAT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD

Does anybody even have a count of how many standards Hillary have?

She has no shame in looking straight in the eye and lying.
She had no anwer but "I don't recall" when she was being questioned during white water investigation.
She said she will not turn down lobbyist money.

...and now proclaims to be the defender of common working people. She see no shame in lying during the election. If she is elected president, she will drop nuclear bomb on the us citizens and will say, "I do not recall pushing that button". Please send home that liar now.

The saddest part of this stupid race card discussion is that race relations are not a big problem in our country. My children have less prejudice than me, I less than my father, and him less than his. The future is better race relations as this is true with the majority of the population. By preying on our prejudice media companies get higher ratings and more coin. By letting them do this in watching, we don't address what is driving down the standard of living for working America. Balance of trade, Airbus contracts, Superhighway from Mexico to Canada to have Mexican truckers destroy our teamsters, war in two countries, and we are discussing race. I hope America wakes up before it is too late.

It is funny and sad to read all these self-professed Democrats claiming to vote for McCain over Obama if Hillary is not the nominee. What ever happened to concern on policies and plans? Hillary and Obama are similiar on nearly every major issue. Although I think Obama is the better candidate for President, Hillary is a close second and definitely better than McCain.

I have a question for Hillary-supporters, if at the end of the Democratic nomination process, Hillary supports Obama as the nominee will you, Hillary-supporters, follow suit?

Double standard? I say we are in the twilight zone of no standards and no common sense. The Democrats are doing their best to make sure that they stay out of White House through their own self-inflicted wounds. Allowing Hillary to be the straw that stirs the drink, insures that the drink contains cyanide.
To those on this blog with the most virilent my way or the highway positions, I say dont go away mad, just go away - if you are not part of the solution what are you part of>

Double standard? I say we are in the twilight zone of no standards and no common sense. The Democrats are doing their best to make sure that they stay out of White House through their own self-inflicted wounds. Allowing Hillary to be the straw that stirs the drink, insures that the drink contains cyanide.
To those on this blog with the most virilent my way or the highway positions, I say dont go away mad, just go away - if you are not part of the solution what are you part of>

If only we could get Hillary to fire Bill, and then herself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y

In politics, a lot of things surface as controversial. Here is one:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23524621#23510589

I laugh at the pundits that think Obama embraces the hatred from Wright or think the work with the poor is the only reason he stayed. You do not win a state senate seat in his district with that churches support. I doubt McCain's pastor spewed anti-Catholic remarks when John was in the audience and don't think Obama heard anything as virulent as was played on the loops. Slanted, probably because he discussed his reverend before deciding to run, virulent I would doubt.

What is the latest in the Obamadrama?

Another of his staffers (one of his foreign policy advisor): is caught breaking into State Department e-files??????

Another of his staffers: one retired Air Force retiree, his big gun, to go after Bill Clinton's every word? Clinton's words are interepreted by this big gun as "SIGNALS" for something else---always derogatory of course to Obama.

And Goolsbe, Obama's seeming ambassador to Canada...he is still on the payroll??

And Obama's speech in CT in 2007 at the Pastor Wright's parental org the United Church of Christ that the IRS is investigating?

"I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."

This quote seems to question personal attacks more than patriotism. Are the Obama people just overly sensitive given their recent missteps (lapel pin, Michelle Obama comments, Wright, etc)? It worked in SC to spin Bill Clinton's comments into something they were not, maybe it will work again? I don't think it will this time.

McPeak has been asked to apologize for comparing the attack on Barack and Michelle's patriotism with the attack on peoples patriotism during the McCarthy era. In no way did he say Bubba is attacking the patriotism of Americans systematically like McCarthy. He likened attacking the Obama family patriotism to attacking patriotism McCarthylike and he won't stand for it. Had Bubba said three candidates and not throw in caveats later you can say the critic is unwarranted but as it stands, people that examine it know what Bubba was trying to do, i.e. question the Obama family patriotism.

Most of us get confused when we see things through the lens of our ideology. Should our leader have good moral or be a shrewed politician with a vision to do things better or both? What happens if one does not have both?

Here is the question, can BO build his political career w/o his affiliation with his church? Was there any other road map to come to this point? Only someone more talented than him perhaps will say 'yes'.

It's astonishing to me that after seeing videos of Obama's pastor, knowing he sat in that church for 20 years and said/did NOTHING about it, people still have the gall to talk about him as a "great leader".

HE COULDN'T LEAD HIS OWN CHURCH OUT OF THIS HATRED, BUT HE'S GOING TO LEAD A MOVEMENT TO CHANGE THE WORLD?!!?!?

The whole thing is ludicrous, as are his supporters at this point.

Richardson joins a long line of self-interested, misguided-at-best politicians. People considered "leaders" of the very Democratic party that they are running into the ground with their mismanagement.

This is all an embarrassment to me as someone who has always been a Democrat.

Obama and this cast of political losers has done something that my Republican husband has never managed to do: turn me into a Republican voter in the general election if Obama's the nominee.

The last poll taken in February said TWICE AS MANY DEMOCRATS will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee vs. Clinton as the nominee. I'm waiting for an update to that poll after the Wright debacle.

Democrats have made their bed with former-saint Obama, and now they have to lie in it for fear of a black backlash. I don't though - I'll vote McCain.

The great ease with which both Clintons, shall I say, FIB - is scary. I'm a democrat but I would rather have Bush again than Hillary or ANY Clinton. Bush may be delusional but the Clintons out and out just plain old LIE..
Posted by: Westminster
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Bless your heart. You must live in a "fairy tale world" called Obamaland. Only sheep may enter. I won't waste my time arguing with you. I believe you have trouble recognizing fact from fiction. How sad to be so blind.

I am a Clinton supporter.I saw the weekend Gallup poll has reversed sharply for Obama which is sad.

March 22, 2008: Gallup Daily: Obama Edges Ahead of Clinton: Democratic nomination preference: Obama 48%, Clinton 45%.

I do not like the politics of "he said- she said". Younger generation are more rational and focused on issues which I like very much.

I tend to ignore the fact that both Bush and Clinton have huge records of corruption and nepotism while in goverment. Also, Clintons can lie for anything and do anything for their own interests. I t may be true that Hillary learnt politics from Bill through pillow talk. She also suffers from bipolar due to over dominance of her husband, says, " I love to be honored ......in one evening" and says, "Obama shame on you the next morning". I do not care if Bill drives her the next 4 or 8 years. For example, she voted for Iraq war when she was building career in NY, and changed position against it gradually when she decided to run for president. This is politics as usual. Ignore all thest petty matters and go Hillary!!!!

I'm still seething over the anointing of Obama's speech by the MSM and left wing nuts.
I'm still seething over the low-life way Obama threw his grandmother under the bus. How can any fool compare and defend Wright by
saying his grandmother was nervous when she met blacks. He told Larry King it was strange men who made her nervous. He makes so many different explanations of his words it's hard to remember what he really said or meant.

I can see how accurate I was from the very beginning about how there was something very bad/wrong about Obama. I have followed this campaign closely by looking at the 15 or so throughout and still think my early pick of Hillary is the only chance The Dems have of taking back The WH in 08.

"I know that HRC's appeal is generally to the uneducated american"

Man, when will the Obama-bots get it? Saying stuff like this pisses people off. I have been a Hillary supporter since New Hampshire. I have a Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science and Engineering (Suma Cum Laude). I am not uneducated nor unintelligent and yet I support HRC. She has qualities that some people find admirable. Obama has some qualities that some people dislike or don't trust. Obama is not the saviour. He does not walk on water. Get a grip!

Obama Fan Club::

Hillary will be in Colorado In August for the final tally. So give your Clinton remarks a rest. They are showing a desperation on Obama's part.

I think that you should be thinking in other directions.

You might do research for Obama on who " himself or what " can be used in a speech for credit even if " credit is not due ".

Barack Obama and his staff are the most gifted old-style political team to emerge in decades. It's miraculous how quickly they can twist and distort any innocent comment by a member of the opposition to suit their weird, distorted ethical standards in order to play the race card or concoct their slanderous attack of the day to target the Clintons.

The great ease with which both Clintons, shall I say, FIB - is scary. I'm a democrat but I would rather have Bush again than Hillary or ANY Clinton. Bush may be delusional but the Clintons out and out just plain old LIE..

Look for there to be a Democrat stampede to the McCain camp, reluctantly but sure, myself included, if Hillary is the Democratic nominee.

C -continually
L - lying
I - in the face of truth and
N - negatively
T - telling
O - one-sided
N - narratives

I am a college educated, Hillary Clinton Supporter and a Solar Design Consultant and sustainable development professional devoted to Peace. I do not find Obama to be sincere, and trust Hillary to work for Peace and prosperity. Based on both candidates records of working for change I find that Hillary has devoted her career to civil service and Obama has devoted his to becoming president.

I did not come to this conclusion overnight. At first I was very impressed with Obama but based on a lot of research into both candidates I cam to the conclusion that Obama and his ruthless press agent Axelrod have been playing Good Cop Bad Cop all along, and are fooling everyone.

So you will understand what influenced my conclusions here is what I read and considered in addition to Obama's Hawkish votes in the Senate, while he claims to be for Peace... It's a contradiction. I don't find the same contradictions in Hillary's record.

Obama also claims to not be supported by Big Business but he has long list of Banks and Investments Companies and Swiss banks. Therese are the companies that fund the War, advantage from Oil and Defense Profits and for that reason want to continue wars and taking over Oil. Obama at first denied this, and when he no longer could said his list of Big Business support is shorter than Hillary's McCain's. First of all they did not lie and claim that they don't take money from Big Business, so I lost my trust for Obama. Second Swiss banks harbor terrorists and Drug dealers, and Obama goes to large Organizations compelling them to contact supporters one by one to cover up his base of support, it's underhanded and eroded my trust in Obama.

Ever been conned by a really good Con man? They will deny everything that is true, accuse everyone else of their crimes, and promise nothing they will deliver. That about sums up Obama to me. The sad part is I really believe Hillary would work for and acheive the change we want and deserve, if she is given the chance.

Now that Obama dug in his heels and kept FL and MI from being able to have a revote times are tough for Hillary, and it is a terrible injustice. The Obama camp says they broke the rules, as if millions of people should be disenfranchised as if they are naughty school children just so Obama can have an unfair advantage, and Democrats can be slaugheted by McCain. What happened to the Democratic Party?

Obama tore us apart and created a race war and even let his preacher go down for Obama's sins. Obama is a user and I bet he went to that church just to make prominent Black contacts like Oprah, and that Rev Wright coached him to be a better speaker, and Obama took him down, just to get ahead. Now he'll use Richardson until he's done with him.

Obama is not who he claims to be. I am a peace activist and Obama votes like a Hawk. He is not New and Different he's another Bush who says one thing and does another and he's vicious, and disloyal, and should go back to the Senate and prove he's a man willing to work for change.

Hillary will make an excellent President and I believe she will bring the USA back to peace and prosperity if we elect her.

Lianette Steele
Bill Clinton never had a budget surplus. Bill Clinton never paid down the national debt. This urban legend that Bill Clinton came up with has been falsely claimed by the news media for years.
The last time the debt was paid down was 1957.
Look on Yahoo's website and search,( Public Debt to the Penny).
On the left hand side of the Treasury Departments website is, ( Historical Debt Outstanding)....click on it.
This lists the debt of the United States, from the inception of the United States, in 50 year increments.

The debt was last payed down in 1957. Clinton fabricated this story, and President Bush ran with it, to give everyone a tax cut in America.

Hence....4 Trillion dollars more of debt.
9.4 Triilion dollars of debt and counting.

It would be nice if Bill Clinton came clean, and admitted he lied to everyone in the United States....rather than pushing this lie about how he was such a fiscally sound President.

He ran a deficit every year of his Presidency. Before commenting....look at the website. The Treasury Department has no reason to lie......they aren't running for office.

The bigger question is how Hillary Clinton thinks 30 billion dollars is going to do anything to the mortgage debt.
$1,200,000,000,000.00 One Trillion two-hundred billion dollars of bad home loans, at three percent, add up to 36 billion dollars of interest payments. How will 30 billion dollars do anything? False Clinton promises again.
3 million homes times 400 thousand dollars is how you come up with 1.2 Trillion dollars.

The Clintons are mathematical hucksters selling snake oil. They will fix nothing....just sell pipe dreams to the unsuspecting ignorant masses.

Enough already with Senator Hillary Clinton's "experience" argument. As first lady, Clinton served as first lady. Her only elected experience is her New York senate term. Take a look at her senate record. She primarily authored legislation to name public buildings and honor public/private figures...substantive legislation? Not so much.

She's on record out right lying about her foreign policy experience.

Sniper Fire, and Holes In Clinton's Recollection
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/21/AR2008032102989.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYDOPHdYck

She's on record lying about NAFTA.

Hillary's NAFTA Lie
The Nation: Clinton Distortion Kills Her Credibility on Trade Policy

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/20/opinion/main3955120.shtml?source=search_story

** Hillary supporters,
** Do you not realize that the numbers do NOT support her being a nominee??
** I know that HRC's appeal is generally to the uneducated american,
** but surely the schools in America are not so bad that they
** have failed to teach you to count?

Neither candidate is likely to win enough delegates to secure the nomination during the primaries.

The SuperDelegates will decide the nomination, largely on their independent judgment as to electability.

Obama himself snidely called his grannie a "typical white person" who is afraid of strangers whose experiences have "bred" into her actions that are wrong.

Puh-leeze...

That's just plain sick.

If you Hillary haters would open your eyes and stop excusing him for every lie and ignorant thing he says, perhaps you would see the the truth. If you aren't black, in his eyes you are a "typical white person" or perhaps a "typical hispanic person" or a "typical Asian person". Ask the New Black Panthers why they support him. It's the same as an endorsement by the KKK. An endorsement he left on his website til inquiring minds started asking why.

Ye will know them by their fruits...Obama has brought nothing but disunity to his own political party, slamming Bill Clinton, Hillary, Ferraro...they are typical "rich white people" I guess...who came from nothing or middle class but we can ignore that for political convenience. What do you think he would do for the rest of the country? We'll never have to find out since he doesn't have a chance in hell of getting elected in Nov., if the Dems are stupid enough to nominate him.

I think Hillary should hold HERSELF to a high standard. And I'm just wondering why she is not commenting at all about the fact that she's headed to a trial .....Peter Paul vs. The Clintons to the tune of 17 million dollars. Next hearing??? THREE days after Pennsylvania. Kind of like Nafta after Ohio.
Clinton camp says this .....Clinton camp says that!
This is what I'd like to have the Clinton camp answer to:
The fact that THREE days after the PA primary, they head to court
for their 17million dollar Peter Paul vs. Clinton Trial re: campaign
fraud. Clintons - please speak about this:
"Another Hillary SECRETHere's an update on the Peter Paul vs. Clintons lawsuit:
Link
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Go to Link (Los Angeles Superior Court) and look in the CIVIL Column, then Click on CASE SUMMARIES then enter these numbers in the box BC304174. It is an active case and has been since January. Sen. Clinton he has not disclosed it. Even after bringing up Rezko and calling Sen. Obama "Ken Starr". I think, before we go any further, she needs to disclose this.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n ews/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=494 78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lPgC0-0bY0Q
utube has parts 1 and 2.
WHY IS THE PRESS KEEPING THIS QUIET?????

I think Hillary should hold HERSELF to a high standard. And I'm just wondering why she is not commenting at all about the fact that she's headed to a trial .....Peter Paul vs. The Clintons to the tune of 17 million dollars. Next hearing??? THREE days after Pennsylvania. Kind of like Nafta after Ohio.
Clinton camp says this .....Clinton camp says that!
This is what I'd like to have the Clinton camp answer to:
The fact that THREE days after the PA primary, they head to court
for their 17million dollar Peter Paul vs. Clinton Trial re: campaign
fraud. Clintons - please speak about this:
"Another Hillary SECRETHere's an update on the Peter Paul vs. Clintons lawsuit:
Link
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Go to Link (Los Angeles Superior Court) and look in the CIVIL Column, then Click on CASE SUMMARIES then enter these numbers in the box BC304174. It is an active case and has been since January. Sen. Clinton he has not disclosed it. Even after bringing up Rezko and calling Sen. Obama "Ken Starr". I think, before we go any further, she needs to disclose this.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n ews/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=494 78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lPgC0-0bY0Q
utube has parts 1 and 2.
WHY IS THE PRESS KEEPING THIS QUIET?????

Wow, so many people are convinced Obama is evil simply for a few seconds of youtube video...with words someone else said. I wonder, if you summed up your own most ignorant statements made in your lifetime and posted it on youtube, how would you be judged? Think your 15 seconds of fame is valid in this framework? Let's not forget, this is a country founded by slaveowners that excelled at driving Native Americans off their own land and breaking treaties for personal gain. Proud of that? We still have a sitting senator that was a member of the KKK. Proud of that too?

I am not electing Pastor Wright, I am electing Obama. I care what Obama says. If I was liable and judged for all the prejudiced things my father has made over twenty years, I might be in hot water too. But I would not disown him...I would still love him. Yet I am my own person, I can make and form my own thoughts and opinions.

I will not vote for Hillary, because after such a terribly haphazard and negative campaign, I don't want to admit having done so. However, those voting for McCain, think he makes the world safer? I laugh aloud at you...you have no idea how the last eight years of foreign policy has affected our status in the world today. Wipe out one terrorist, create ten more. Eliminate Sadam, ignore Iran and North Korea. The cowboy politics of muscle is as bygone as the Roman era...instant communication and world cooperation has seen to that. You need to win thoughts and minds through intelligent conversation, not with bigotry on blogs or violence without cause. We are not the world's policeman...we are the world's most forefront thinkers and example setters. It's time we start acting like it.

What do Hillary Clinton and Lady Macbeth have in common? The answer is: they both have abominable witch-like tendencies -very ruthless and vengenful.

Ignatius

What do Hillary Clinton and Lady Macbeth have in common? The answer is: they both have abominable witch-like tendencies -very ruthless and vengeful.

Ignatius

To wcowan1,the Gallup Daily Tracking poll that you referenced with Hillary having a 7% edge (49% to 42%) was from last Wednesday, March 19th. 3 days later, Mach 22nd, Obama is ahead of Clinton 48% to 45%. So he went from 7% down to 3% ahead, an increase of 10%. That, to me, looks like a surge for Obama, although I am sure that you and Mark Penn would disagree.

In her quest for Superdelegates, she picked up a total of 1 in the last several weeks and lost 5 for a net of minus 4 while Obama has gained more than 60. I suppose that represents another Clinton surge.

I do not think that her campaign can survive many more surges.

Yesterday's results
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/gallup-obama-re.html

Last Wednesday's results
http://www.usatoday.com/_ads/interstitial/2008/page/interstitial.htm?http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/clinton-strat-1.html

Posted by: eljefejesus
Pennsylvania, put Obama over the top, root for an Obama-Richardson ticket, and tell Hillary "fuera!"
_________

Pennsylvania responds: We speak English here.

Obama is toast. African Americans here are not racist like the Rev Wright. Most are long-time Dems who remember Hillary's work during the 1990's. He will get about 65% of black vote from the far left, and some blacks who are proud of his achievement.

Us white folks don't like to be constantly called "white folks" any more than I would ever consider calling black people "black folks". Obama intentionally pits white vs. black, the same way OJ's attorneys did to get him off on murder.

Pennsylvania was a free state, and most of the "white folks" here were immigrants who arrived after the Civil War. They were poor, did not have privilege, and worked their way to achieve a good life.

When a political candidate stoops to pitting us vs. them, blaming one group for the failures of another and failing to see people as individuals then we are in very serious trouble in this country. More serious than the Iraq War, more serious than the economy. There was a guy in Germany once who gave great speeches to the masses and they cheered!! Then he blamed all of their troubles on another group and it didn't turn out so well.

OBAMA'S NEW PASTOR COMPARES REV. WRIGHT TO JESUS -- CHICAGO -- The new pastor of Barack Obama's church delivered a defiant defense of its retiring reverend Sunday, comparing media coverage of Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. to a modern-day lynching that resembles Jesus' death at the hands of the Romans. In a sunrise Easter sermon, Rev. Otis Moss III implied that his mentor, who has delivered sermons in which he likened the U.S. to the Ku Klux Klan and declared it damned for its "state-sponsored terrorism," is facing the same challenges Jesus did."No one should start a ministry with lynching, no one should end their ministry with lynching," Moss said. "The lynching was national news. The RNN, the Roman News Network, was reporting it and NPR, National Publican Radio had it on the radio. The Jerusalem Post and the Palestine Times all wanted exclusives, they searched out the young ministers, showed up unannounced at their houses, tried to talk with their families, called up their friends, wanted to get a quote on how do you feel about the lynching?" he continued.

Clinton camp says this .....Clinton camp says that!
This is what I'd like to have the Clinton camp answer to:
The fact that THREE days after the PA primary, they head to court
for their 17million dollar Peter Paul vs. Clinton Trial re: campaign
fraud. Clintons - please speak about this:
"Another Hillary SECRETHere's an update on the Peter Paul vs. Clintons lawsuit:
Link
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. Go to Link (Los Angeles Superior Court) and look in the CIVIL Column, then Click on CASE SUMMARIES then enter these numbers in the box BC304174. It is an active case and has been since January. Sen. Clinton he has not disclosed it. Even after bringing up Rezko and calling Sen. Obama "Ken Starr". I think, before we go any further, she needs to disclose this.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n ews/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=494 78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lPgC0-0bY0Q
utube has parts 1 and 2.
WHY IS THE PRESS KEEPING THIS QUIET?????

I love it! President McCain still has not endorsed his VP Choice even after already have won the Election.

Meanwhile, Obasasma and Billary being the Natural Born Losers they are, are trying to Hook-Up their Veeps, so they can somehow win the Nomination! ;~)

Soooo Pathetic!

But, for some GOOD News! Horn's Hooked-Em! ~v~

Pennsylvania will be able to count Hillary out, but it won't be able to get her nominated.

If Pennsylvania wants to be significant, it should seal the deal for the first black nominee for the US Presidency.

This latino is voting for Obama just like Richardson; Hillary already blew the lead in the Primaries, why let her blow the Democrat's chances in the general election?

Pennsylvania, put Obama over the top, root for an Obama-Richardson ticket, and tell Hillary "fuera!"

http://earlcallaway.com/corpsecount.html

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the federal law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.
Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the federal law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.
Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the federal law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.
Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the federal law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.
Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:

I've investigated a lot of crimes over the last 32 years, including murders. Any criminal investigator with the slightest bit of experience and training could easily see (and most have seen) the many flaws, holes and gaps in the so-called Vince Foster "murder" investigation by, of all the federal law enforcement agencies, the Park Police. But, when one does a little more checking into the past of Bill and Hillary Clinton, they will find a long path of former friends, associates and business partners of the Clinton's who have died young and under mysterious circumstances. The following is a partial list of those whose blood cries out for justice.
Kevin Ives and Don Henry: Died August 1987. Reportedly, they had stumbled upon the Arkansas Mena Drug Operation (many stories and articles have been written about Clinton's affiliation with the Mena Mafia) It was first reported that these two young boys died as a result of falling asleep on a railroad track. It was later revealed that Ives had received a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks and Henry had been stabbed to death. The following 7 deaths were all of people who reportedly had knowledge and information concerning the mysterious, unsolved murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry:

http://earlcallaway.com/corpsecount.html

jarda1..i agree with you 100%..that was the first time i have heard the whole speech by rev.wright..he was speaking about the bible..wow..when news shows only play a little sound bit..and not the 8 minute speech..it sounds very different. i would keep letting people see for themselves..

lxgmd - Before spouting untrue facts about Hillary not deserving credit for SCHIP, why don't you do a little research to find out the facts. For example, please note the following quotes:

"Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Oct. 6, 2007: The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today IF WE DIDN'T HAVE HILLARY PUSHING FOR IT FROM THE OTHER END of Pennsylvania Avenue." (Emphasis added)

"Adam Clymer: On balance, I would say of course Kennedy and Hatch deserve most of the credit, BUT HILLARY HELPED BY MAKING SURE THE ADMINISTRATION STUCK WITH THE $24 BILLION IN [the Senate-House] CONFERENCE. She didn't write the legislation but she played a significant role in getting it passed." (Emphasis added)

Also, please note the following:
"Moreover, Hillary Clinton took a major role in translating the new law into action. The program leaves to the states the job of setting up coverage and getting children enrolled, a task that continues to be a struggle to this day. In February 1999, after 47 states had set up SCHIP programs, the Clintons launched a drive to 'nsure Kids Now.' Hillary took the lead, speaking first before her husband in an East Room event at the White House."

"Hillary Clinton, Feb. 23, 1999: At least half of all uninsured children are eligible for federal-state health insurance programs, but too often their parents don't know or don't believe they qualify. As successful, for example, as Medicaid has been, an estimated 4 million eligible children are still not enrolled."

"In April that year the first lady gave a speech saying nearly 1 million children had been enrolled during the previous year, but that increasing the figure was 'one of the highest priorities' of her husband's administration. She said the president would seek $1 billion to fund a five-year 'outreach' effort, with a goal of increasing enrollment to 5 million by 2000."

"Our conclusion: Clinton is right on this one."

As a result, I think you owe the Clinton campaign for spouting lies about Hillary Clinton's role with regards to SCHIP or at least do your homework and find out the facts.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/giving_hillary_credit_for_schip.html

From reading this blog Hillary must have a staff of people ready to comment on anything newstory that may be considered a negative for her.

Each time someone who claims to be a supporter always manages to comment 1st with some crazed statement in support of her.

I am so ready for this primary to be over at this point I don't care even if Ralph Nader gets nominated there is no way I would vote for Hillary at this point.

http://earlcallaway.com/corpsecount.html

targa47,

Well, this "typical white guy" is voting for Obama.

But then again, maybe I'm not so typical. I've been following this election and these candidates exceedingly closely.

Not just Hillary lied about Bosnia but CNN, ABC, MSNBC, FOX were lied about 9/11 sermon. Do you want to hear the true? Then go th hear it for yourself here. It is original version of Rev. Wright 9/11 sermon. Fraud which all network were broadcasting is just nothing else than lie.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

To "alancharbonneau" and "ldcvoigt" who stated that the posting about recent Gallup poll numbers indicating a surge in support for Hillary Clinton was incorrect, I've included the introduction of the article below:

USA TODAY/Gallup Poll: Clinton up 5 points on McCain; Obama up 2
"If the election were held today. . . , Democratic contender Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton would get 51% of the vote to Republican candidate Sen. John McCain's 46%, the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll estimates. In a match-up between Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and McCain, Obama comes out ahead 49%-47%."

Go online and read the article. For many voters the images of Barack Obama's minister that appeared in the recent ABC news report (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230) can't be forgotten. In the video, Senator Obama's minister states that blacks should not sing 'God Bless America' but 'God damn America'." This one sentence continues to play in my head! Long after Senator Obama has finished with speeches about unity, these angry words from the mouth of his minister of twenty years will live in the memory of the electorate. Can you imagine if the Republicans just showed two clips over and over in one TV commercial? 1) Pastor Wright saying "God d**m America" over and over; and 2) Pictures of the congregation being driven to frenzy by the words. If these two scenes are repeated over and over for 26 seconds by the Republicans, that commercial will doom Barack Obama as a presidential candidate.

Pastor Wright should not be in the business of stirring up hate between races and talking about his fellow human beings in such the way that he does. An educated person transcends beyond such a petty attack on other races and instead teaches people how to make themselves and the place where they live better.

With his racially driven baloney, Pastor Wright is only making things harder for the people of his congregation. Apparently Pastor Wright didn't learn very much at all from the places where he was educated. He is a disgrace to the progress of African-Americans and America as a whole. Pastor Wright is also a disgrace to the US Marines, because our Armed Forces do not in any way support or endorse people who have and advance such extremist hate messages like Wright's.

America is the land of opportunity, ask people that have come here from other countries, there is no place in America for the poison that Pastor Wright is injecting into people. With the high amount of influence he has amongst others, Pastor Wright could use his influential powers to send a positive and constructive message. Instead, he is creating the jihadist hate children of Americaand giving people an excuse to hate others. Shame on him.

As for Obama, his unrelenting support of this hateful individual, including the dedicating his written materials to this man, shows that Obama has a deep seated problem with judgement. And to think that Obama would bring his children to this Pastor is sickening. In a way, the President is the parent of America, and so by this logic, Obama would think it's OK to have Americans breed such a hateful message like Pastor Wright's.

Obama is arrogant in the way that he truly believes Americans need to be changed, we're talking about a "radical" change such as that which he obviously studies in Church. America will not submit to Obama's hate, we are better than that. With such a twisted view on reality, we Americans should be very suspicious of what Barack has in store for us, and we should decide accordingly. Looking at the patterns, I have concluded that it's nothing that we as a country will find pleasant.

You'll see these messages again and again, but not from me.

As for Obama, he needs to move on and let the true candidates of unity win the nomination.

LOL. Billary would use FDR's polio against him if he were their opponent. Bill would say something like "Americans want a healthy, able-bodied president striding with them into the future." When Roosevelt's camp complained, he would say that they were playing the cripple card for sympathy and distracting from real issues.

"All this other stuff"= race relations in America, which certainly is one of the less urgent problems we face considering the Iraq war, rising food and fuel prices, unemployment and immigration issues and so on.

Slick Willie (and I would never have referred to him by this sobriquet a year ago) is signaling to the public that if they choose Obama as the Democratic candidate, he'll spend all of his time defending himself on personal issues relating to having a Kenyan father.

Slick Willie is also suggesting that Obama harbors a radical anti-American agenda. Unfortunately there are a lot of Americans who can't differentiate between fascism and American values, and this comment was aimed squarely at these Wal-Mart flag wavers, Billary's new core support.

Billary continue to use subtext because it's effective and makes the Obama camp look like paranoid whiners.

Now that Richardson is backing Obama, I'm awaiting subtle hints about Hispanics taking over the country and so on. I really wouldn't put it past these two to jettison the Latin vote, especially since none of the states that have yet to hold primaries contain large Hispanic populations (with the exception of PR, but maybe Billary don't consider that an "important" election).

McPeak's rebuttal was weak. The Obama camp need to come up with a new and better tactic to counter the subtext. As Alexander Cockburn wrote in one of his columns, "Less Whining, More Dirt!"

To wcowan1, your first post said that "A recent Gallup Poll indicates that Hillary Clinton has opened up a 7% Gallup Poll lead over Barack Obama". But per USA Today, "...the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on Democratic presidential nomination preferences showing 48% of Democratic voters favoring Obama and 45% Clinton."

So now you change the view and do not look at Clinton vs. Obama, but at Clinton vs. McCain and Obama vs. McCain and try to show that Clinton has "opened up a lead". Even using this revised methodology, if Clinton gets 51% to 46% margin and Obama gets a 49% to 47% margin, then her margin is 5% and his is 2%, a difference of 3% and not 7%; you have to subtract the two margins and not add them together.

Even if you had claimed the difference was 3%, I would still say that she has not "opened up a lead" on Obama when she is behind him in a head-to-head match.

I have been waiting for this turning point for months. Obama has some negative issues in the public - finally! How's he going to change the subject? More talk about race? I think most of us are sick of this now. More negative campaigning? That would make him more of a hypocrite than he already is. Will he talk about his experience? NOPE. The kool-aide buzz has worn off and the public is finally interested in more than speeches from this guy. Too bad they don't like what they see.

bbln-The Theme Song for Both Dimocrat Camps, is Jethro Tull's "Living in the Past".

While the Antics of the Religious Nut-Jobs has me singing Tull's "If Jesus Saves!" :-(

Meanwhile President McCain is "Taking Care of Business"! :-)

To "ldcvoigt" who stated that the posting about recent Gallup poll numbers indicating more voters favor Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama, here's the opening paragraphas as it's cited in USA Today:

USA TODAY/Gallup Poll: Clinton up 5 points on McCain; Obama up 2
"If the election were held today. . . , Democratic contender Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton would get 51% of the vote to Republican candidate Sen. John McCain's 46%, the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll estimates. In a match-up between Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and McCain, Obama comes out ahead 49%-47%."

Go online and read the article. For many voters the images of Barack Obama's minister that appeared in the recent ABC news report (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230) can't be forgotten. In the video, Senator Obama's minister states that blacks should not sing 'God Bless America' but 'God damn America'." This one sentence continues to play in my head! Long after Senator Obama has finished with speeches about unity, these angry words from the mouth of his minister of twenty years will live in the memory of the electorate. Can you imagine if the Republicans just showed two clips over and over in one TV commercial? 1) Pastor Wright saying "God d**m America" over and over; and 2) Pictures of the congregation being driven to frenzy by the words. If these two scenes are repeated over and over for 26 seconds by the Republicans, that commercial will doom Barack Obama as a presidential candidate.

To "ldcvoigt" who stated that the posting about recent Gallup poll numbers indicating more voters favor Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama, here's the opening paragraphas as it's cited in USA Today:

USA TODAY/Gallup Poll: Clinton up 5 points on McCain; Obama up 2
"If the election were held today. . . , Democratic contender Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton would get 51% of the vote to Republican candidate Sen. John McCain's 46%, the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll estimates. In a match-up between Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and McCain, Obama comes out ahead 49%-47%."

Go online and read the article. For many voters the images of Barack Obama's minister that appeared in the recent ABC news report (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230) can't be forgotten. In the video, Senator Obama's minister states that blacks should not sing 'God Bless America' but 'God damn America'." This one sentence continues to play in my head! Long after Senator Obama has finished with speeches about unity, these angry words from the mouth of his minister of twenty years will live in the memory of the electorate. Can you imagine if the Republicans just showed two clips over and over in one TV commercial? 1) Pastor Wright saying "God d**m America" over and over; and 2) Pictures of the congregation being driven to frenzy by the words. If these two scenes are repeated over and over for 26 seconds by the Republicans, that commercial will doom Barack Obama as a presidential candidate.

Advisers to Both Fault Obama Camp
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE - 2 hours ago

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iWSIm6rMH4mnWBT-fKZg_58OrA8QD8VJDC0G0

Rendell said Bill Clinton was saying what many people think, that the campaign should focus on the economy, health care and the candidates' experience, for example, and not on race and other distractions.

This Campaign is focused on all the issues not selected issues , Bill Clinton should come out and fault himself for not being more nimble on making sure the American people were not taking it in the shorts on NAFTA , with it not providing a Fee on imports to make up for the loss of deductions to wages that would have built the products in the USA that we consumed over the past 14 years from overseas trade partners, ( big difference between full employment paying into the SS and Medicare system , that they say is not enough to service the programs , and Total Products consumed , which is the way the system was setup to Equate the Revenue flows to sustain the SS and Medicare systems in the first place ) , that probably are some of the same recipients of Tariff Free imports to the USA that contributed to the Clintons over the years , and the reason why we don't get to see their tax Records , is it not ???????????

Justice Department Investigation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/background.htm

Corporate Tyrants of the Fascist NAFTA trade Agreement
February 16, 2000 Issue Brief #137 http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/issuebriefs_ib137

The High Cost of the China-WTO Deal
Administration's own analysis suggests spiraling deficits, job losses

by Robert E. Scott

Ya' gotta love it! Hill & Bill & their surrogates sling the vilest mud at Obama, and when the Obama camp points out they're slinging mud the Clintonites cry "Foul! They're accusing us of being mudslingers! That's low-down, dirty, negative politics! They've got a double standard!"

Same old same old. Time to turn the page.

as far as i'm concern hilly billy can take their 2 stooges act to china. we had all the hillybilly we can stand. well kiss my grits. USN 1962-65

i wonder who is the bigger sociopath bill or hillary??

We need Al Gore to step in on June 8th and support the candidate who leads in pledged delegates. God willing that will be Obama!

Unfortunately, too many Hillary-supporters (aka Bill Clinton supporters) are naive enough not to know that Bill Clinton is a great politician which in large part is due to his ability to tell "untruths" convincingly. Of course Bill Clinton indirectly accused Obama of being unpatriotic. The people who don't believe that also believe Bill Clinton when he said, " I did not have sexual relations with that woman!"

Obama really has a vision problem. Retired Gen. McPeak (his attack dog surrogate) looks a lot more like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz instead of Clint Eastwood.

Obama lacks the courage to call Bill Clinton a racist or a McCarthyite himself.

He also lacks the courage to repudiate his racist mentor, Rev. Wright. It is amazing to see him walk this tightrope of propriety. He may still win his party's nomination, however he is beginning to look more and more like damaged goods.

Speaking of double standards....

The Clinton campaign now thinks the delegates should be apportioned according to the electoral votes of the states each candidate won. That measure would put Clinton slightly ahead to date.

What Hillary had to say about the Electoral College after the 2000 Presidential election, however, points up yet another convenient inconsistency:

'At the time, Mrs. Clinton, who had just been elected to the Senate, said, "I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people and to me, that means it's time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president."' Katherine Seelye, NY Times, March 24, 2008.

mo897 says "I'm another "typical white person" that will also vote Republican if Obama succeeds in stealing the nomination."

Oh, gosh! You're going to vote for McCain so nobody better vote for Obama or else!

Sorry, mo897, but I am a Usenet veteran and I recognize a troll when I see one.

You're not terribly good at it either and your command of the English language is sorely lacking as your very first sentence is a declaration followed by a question mark.

Finally, I am not at all concerned about you voting for McCain; no state allows 14-year olds to vote.

Hey kbvt123 -- Since it appears that you feel overlooked by Bill Clinton, I hear that Elliot Spitzer might be able to help you to obtain some level of fulfillment.

Hey donnielee1 ... you are calling Clinton a liar? You obviously don't have a clue what Obama has been doing or saying or acting. But, then he is just so inspirational, adorable and you just love him to death ... and, oh, I just feel so inspired!!

Hey alancharbonneau -- you are so full of ... (yourself)!!!

I am from Pa.I can not see for the life of me,What the people of Pa,Ohio see in that liar hillary clinton.She lied about NAFTA and got caught shelied about Bosnia and got caught.She has done nothing but lie from the begining. Tell me Pa what do you see that I dont? She has taken food out of your childrens mouth,she has taken jobs from you but you still support this witch. You people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Let's look at the facts:

1. Hillary Clinton voted for NAFTA but now she says that she wants to make some changes to it.

2.Hillary Clinton said that she did not think that it was important for Michigan and Florida's votes to count before this election got off of the ground however, now that she is behind in the popular vote, she wants Michigan and Florida to count and oh yeah, Sentaor Obama is the blame.

3. Hillary Clinton voted for the war but now, it was a mistake

4. Geraldine Ferraro makes racial remarks and after a couple of days, Hillary apologizes to a group of African Americans.

5. She stayed with her husband after he committed adultry several times; oh, shouldn't she have denounced him and left him?

The bottom line is this, about 96% of what all politicians say is simply about winning at any cost; the true test of their truthfullness is when they will not throw someone under the bus for political gain.

We all, Black, White, Latino, Asian and Indian have been in the company of friends, family or aquaintances that have made racial remarks; did you abandon your relationship with them? No, you did not! So, he who is without sin cast the first stone! Make no mistake, if Hillary Clinton does make it to the general election, she will not make it to the White House because you see, she still has certain groups in this country that will have to vote for her and believe me, we will not vote for her or we will vote for John McCain. Her lies, negativity and divisivness in the Democratic party will come back to haunt her. The only experience Hillary Clinton has is in playing dirty, negative politics; her resume is inflated; she has no experience in foreign politics;she's never signed or made any treaties with other countries and a few speeches in foreign countries doesn't count. Hillary is 60 years old so I would hope that she has some experience however, if she has 35 years of experience, is she counting her years in college as experience? Her effort to try and pass a behind the door healthcare plan with her husband doesn't count; remember, she left other party officials and the American people out of those meetings. It is politicians like Hillary that cause the American people to have very little faith in the government and it is Hillary that will divide America the same way that she has divided the Democratic party!

I am from Pa.I can not see for the life of me,What the people of Pa,Ohio see in that liar hillary clinton.She lied about NAFTA and got caught shelied about Bosnia and got caught.She has done nothing but lie from the begining. Tell me Pa what do you see that I dont? She has taken food out of your childrens mouth,she has taken jobs from you but you still support this witch. You people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm another "typical white person" that will also vote Republican if Obama succeeds in stealing the nomination. The Obama supporters are so over the edge criticizing, casting aspersions, throwing mud and being just downright nasty that there is no way that anyone with any integrity could vote for Obama.

Does it seem odd to anyone that a bunch of Hillary supporters are all saying the same thing and always using capital letters to say it?

I keep reading "WAKE UP AMERICA!!"; it seems to be "their" phrase of the day. I put the word "their" in quotes because it strikes me as one person using multiple monikers. Of course it might not be a troll, it might simply be that Hillary supporters are unoriginal and lack the creative spark necessary to derive anything outside the talking points of the Hillary website.

Ok, Hillary supporters, try this link. The title of the article is:
"Gallup Tracking Poll: Obama Regaining Support After Wright Race Speech". It is dated March 22, 2008.

The important part of the article is in the first sentence, Obama is ahead of Clinton and not 7% behind as some Hillary supporters have claimed:

"Barack Obama has quickly made up the deficit he faced with Hillary Clinton earlier this week, with the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on Democratic presidential nomination preferences showing 48% of Democratic voters favoring Obama and 45% Clinton."

http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/bill-clinton/18549/gallup-tracking-poll-obama-regaining-support-after-wright-race-speech/

If Obama wins, this typical white guy will vote straight Republican.

The Clinton camp is desperate. Anyone else with a 10% chance of getting the nomination, at this point, would step aside for the good of the party. Instead, the Clintons continue their meaningless campaign to nowhere, hurling insults and aligning themselves with McCain. It's disgusting. A must read today is the New York Times article stating Gore, Carter and Pelosi are not going to allow the Clintons to buy, steal or hijack this nomination. A 10% chance, folks. Clintons' campaign is on life support. Somebody please pull the plug! Hillary, you're done.

The Clinton camp is desperate. Anyone else with a 10% chance of getting the nomination, at this point, would step aside for the good of the party. Instead, the Clintons continue their meaningless campaign to nowhere, hurling insults and aligning themselves with McCain. It's disgusting. A must read today is the New York Times article stating Gore, Carter and Pelosi are not going to allow the Clintons to buy, steal or hijack this nomination. A 10% chance, folks. Clintons' campaign is on life support. Somebody please pull the plug! Hillary, you're done.

This is Hillary Clinton: Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica Lewinsky and impeachment, renting out the Lincoln bedroom, the loss of the Rose Law Firm billing records for nearly 2 years until they were miraculously found in the White House living quarters, removing files from Vince Foster's office following his suicide and before investigators could get there. Her stalling to release her full tax returns and earmark requests from her time in the Senate, as well as her Clinton library donors. Her apology to the black community (for her friend and supporters racist comments) which came days too late. Her decline to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at International Profit Associates, or IPA accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record. Lets not forget her campaign eventually returned some $850,000 to Hong Kong businessman Norman Hsu who was found to be a fugitive in a 15-year old theft case. He was indicted for fraud related to his campaign contributions in 2007. Her failed inclusion and diplomacy with congress on her universal health care bid. Her flip flop on NAFTA. Her flip flop on Iraq. Her flip flop on Florida and Michigan. Her exaggerated foreign policy experience. Playing the race card better than Republicans could. Clinton photo with Rezko. Clinton photo with Rev Wright. Her failure to get the endorsement of close friend Bill Richardson. Her lie about Bosnia. Bills McCarthyism. Her suggestion that superdelegates vote against the will of the people (this kind of leadership found support in the notion of "false consciousness" that originated in the philosophical writings of Marx and Engels). How long do we have to ride donkeys with our hands tied with hoo