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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) speaks prior to holding a discussion on the economy, Tuesday, March 25, 2008, during a campaign stop at the University of Pittsburgh in Greensburg, Pa. (AP.)

By Anne E. Kornblut
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking for the first time directly about the association between the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Sen. Barack Obama, said "getting up and moving" would have been the right response to hearing the preacher's fiery sermons.

Wright "would not have been my pastor," Clinton said during an interview with the conservative editorial board of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, whose endorsement she is seeking. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend," she said. Obama refused to disavow Wright even as he said he disagreed with some of his sermons.

Clinton had declined for many days to talk about the Wright controversy, which escalated to such an extent that Obama delivered an address on race in Philadelphia last week. Her advisers, during a conference call on the state of the Democratic race, declined on Tuesday to fan the flames. But Clinton, speaking in Pittsburgh, cited her earlier condemnation of radio host Don Imus, after he insulted the Rutgers' women's basketball team, as an example of how Obama should have reacted to his pastor's words.

"You know, I spoke out against Don Imus, saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that," the paper quoted Clinton as saying. "I think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving."

Bill Burton, an Obama spokesman, issued a response: "After originally refusing to play politics with this issue, it's disappointing to see Hillary Clinton's campaign sink to this low in a transparent effort to distract attention away from the story she made up about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia. The truth is, Barack Obama has already spoken out against his pastor's offensive comments and addressed the issue of race in America with a deeply personal and uncommonly honest speech. The American people deserve better than tired political games that do nothing to solve the larger challenges facing this country."

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Let me straighten somethings out. An Organizer is one who bring people together. The Reverend Wright's "Church Congregation" increase from several hundred to several thousands. It got to the point where some of Wright Sermons were outdated. In the 80's the Congregational loved to hear his Sermon "The White man created the Aid virus to combat the black man", because Racial rejudice were higher then. Today in the 21 century the average black person knows that's not so. Today only a few of the Wright Sermons are effective, but he still is popular.

Jim Jones of Guyana ( The Johnnston Massacre was an Organizer), because of his Speeches he was able to have 408 people to commit mass suicide.

Barack Obama is an Organizer who follow him or read his books are Brainwashed also.

Here are the Facts. Obama has no Resume, he has only one Accomplishment. His accomplishment came after the Republican Governor of Illinois ( Ryan) Banned the Death Penalty for 156 death row inmates, after he was elected to apply the death penalty. Later under a Democratic Governor in 2003 Obama passed his Legislature under the new Democratic Governor Rod Blagojevich about utilizing cameras in interrogation rooms. Obama was not the Savior of the 156 inmates, the Republic Governor Ryan was.

Obama first published his Book " Dreams from My Father in 1995. Tha tbook had two pictures on it. Supposely his African sister (who he was close to) and himself.

In 2004 Obama Republished "Dreams from my Father". This time for political gain ,he put three Photos on the Cover and Deleted 51 pages of "ERRORS".
This was the beginning of Obama Case to present himself as a Military Vet and to run for the Presidency... Acording to Obama in one of the Debate he first started to run for the Presidency about 1.5 years back. This is a LIE. According to the date of publication Obama's "RUN" for the white house began more than 3 years ago. In Obama Book " The AUDACITY of HOPE he uses military phrases numerous times trying to brainwash people that he was a Soldier.

In Conclusion,Obama need to watch out for the IRS, if he didnot include in his 2007 Income for the First of a $1.9 million dollar 3 book deal " The AUDACITY of HOPE,then he may be Organizing behind bars.

According to his book " The Audacity of Hope" there are two many Lawyers and not enough Engneers. Well Barry I am one of those Engineer.

I am a problem solver and also believe in Solutions. I am a SUPER-SUPER DELEGATE I am supporting HILLARY for President.

Posted by: ecbmtrumpeter | March 31, 2008 7:31 PM

Thank you for expressing the noetics and ideates of millions of Americans!

Posted by: hlmencken | March 31, 2008 4:18 PM

I have commented heretofore regarding the inspired "Catholic Catechism" of motivation of feelings of extreme maudlin and einfuhlung in Senators Casey's endorsement of senator Obama; that is not his to give away, in that he demonstrates no ownership of the American female struggle for freedom for female body independence ! Is Hillary required to abandon her historic female rights presidential campaign to assuage the feelings of a few?

Moreover, senator Kerry's insulting audacity that his advice to Hillary to withdraw is viewed by Hillary supporters as emanating from a miserably failed presidential candidate and is is a bit presumptuous on his part that smacks of perpetuating a male patriarchy American political hegemony that demonstrates typical male puissant! agression There is a world of difference in the political philosophies of extreme liberal Kennedy American democrats and moderate Clinton democrats!

There has always been a rivalry hidden and submerged beneath the public Senate surface! The Kennedyites are the neophilllia self appointed American aristocrats who unquestioningly are latté drinking self proclaimed superior Homo sapiens! These folks exemplify superior education and opportunity offered them since birth and after experiencing the opportunity of being born on third base, politically scamper home occasionally upon our American political stage!Bur invariably inveigle and wheedle a way to arrange an array of econumums to be bestowed upon their egos of greatness!
While the Clintonites are boring American proletariats of typically hard working Americans that mind their own business pay their bills and utilize their natural tribal abilities in choosing a political candidate with the exercise of natural ratiocinations![that is who is the most experienced and qualified? They decide which candidates are disadvantaged by and through the actions of the American press and its corporate controllers!

The last advice needed by democrats this year is strategy and advice from candidates that have failed; including but not limited too Joe Lieberman who is pursuing the folly that American declare war upon Iran in order to preserve and protect Israel! Old Joe better decide if he is an American or a citizen of Israel?

In addition Hillary supporters now fully and completely comprehend the reason that Dick Chaney flipped the "bird" at pat Lahey on the floor of the Senate!"He is an intrusive bumptious bastard" says Dick! Hillary surrogates offer a rejoinder with the added feature "insensitive also"! "He has done nothing or offered anything sensible since he has been here"! He could be replaced by a Republican without political cost to the party!
senescent narcissistic male senators such as Lahey are horribly insensitive an dismissive of female political rights and endeavor to substitute their own personal dreams of ultimate body freedom for females with their own oneiric dream of a black president! [and the doors of heaven will open with choirs of angels singing and all will be right with the world and we will live happyly ever after! but most importantly the Kennedyites will be forgiven]
The antiquated senescent Chris Dodd of Connecticut is nothing and offers nothing to the neophilia America of the 21st century! [hey Obama surrogates I thought change was your byword-Chris is embarrassingly passage?]
Moreover states containing white majorities have a right to chose their candidate and are entitled to as much courtesy and consideration from the American Press as those states containing black majorities with the same kind of news coverage! This is about to occur and the Obama supporters are afraid of the results! Hillary will be the democratic party nominee not because of american racial prejudice but rather because she is more qualified and experienced and will make a better President! The audacity of these white males is insufferable!

Hillary and her surrogates should sacrifice their goal of electing a female Homo sapiens to the American presidency because of an overwhelming feeling of guilt being experienced by leading male catholic politicians-who deny the existence of a hegemony of a dominating male political zeitgeist that has existed since the Mayflower!

LETS SEE HOW THE REMAINDER OF AMERICANS FEEL! PENNSYLVANIA, INDIANA,OREGON, WEST VIRGINA, NORTH CAROLINA PUERTO RICA ! then WE WILL KNOW!

Posted by: hlmencken | March 31, 2008 4:06 PM

Hillary Clinton's pastor was convicted of child molestation, some writers have observed. If Hillary had spent twenty years listening to her pastor advocate child molestation from the pulpit and then continued to consider him her mentor and almost a member of the family, then the analogy between her pastor and Obama's mentor would work. Otherwise, the analogy is stupid.

Posted by: orray | March 31, 2008 11:30 AM

Hillary Clinton's pastor has convicted of child molestation. If Hillary had spent twenty years listening to him advocate child molestation from the pulpit and considered him her mentor and almost a member of the family, then the analogy between her pastor and Obama's mentor would work. Otherwise, the analogy is stupid.

Posted by: orray | March 31, 2008 11:28 AM

I have been hearing so much about Hillary's awful,vile, unchristian remarks. Would someone please tell me exactly what she has said that is so awful?

Posted by: akaldenberg | March 31, 2008 11:12 AM

What a sad, race driven country we live in. The most segregated hour in america is sunday mornings at 11am. Pastor Wright's comments(3 years ago at that) should not be the driving force behind an attack on Obama. Focus on the economy, war or whatever but it seems that Pastor Wright is right. America is full of hatred and is stooping to its lowest denominator. What is the difference between Strom Thumond, Jesse Helms or Hillary Clinton?? All are white and all have run some of the most vile, un-Christian, un-anything human campaigns in U.S. history.

Posted by: mackmusic78 | March 30, 2008 6:59 PM

What a sad, race driven country we live in. The most segregated hour in america is sunday mornings at 11am. Pastor Wright's comments(3 years ago at that) should not be the driving force behind an attack on Obama. Focus on the economy, war or whatever but it seems that Pastor Wright is right. America is full of hatred and is stooping to its lowest denominator. What is the difference between Strom Thumond, Jesse Helms or Hillary Clinton?? All are white and all have run some of the most vile, un-Christian, un-anything human campaigns in U.S. history.

Posted by: mackmusic78 | March 30, 2008 6:58 PM

I wish Hillary Clinton would give a speech on sexism in America. It affects half us us, after all, including all women of color.

A thought experiment, for the men in the crowd. Two new employees join your company. One is a middle-aged White woman; the other is a Black man, younger than her, but not a kid.

Who do you want as your partner on the next project? Who are you going to invite for drinks after work?

Just wondering. Women have it a lot harder than you think, plus we get raped a lot just because we are women. In this day and age I am certain that violent crimes against women because they are women, by men, far exceed violent crimes against Blacks because they are Black, by white people.

Women are afraid to walk outside in the evening; not because they are afraid of being arrested, but because they are afraid of being kidnapped and tortured.

Give a speech, Hillary. This country needs to be reminded that what you have accomplished is extremely impressive for a women of your or any generation. You were not a "looker" in college in the way handsome Barry was, but you busted your way into law firms and boardrooms. I can almost guarantee that a lot of men didn't like having you around. As an accomplished female I know all the phenomena; my comments ignored at faculty meetings, only to be parroted by a male colleague a few minutes later to much praise. "I just said that..."

Hillary, you make many people nervous with your brains and ambition, but your hard work trumps any amount of jaw flapping by BHO.

Posted by: heathertml | March 29, 2008 6:03 PM

Corrrection, The Audacity of Hope is on Page 292 of his book Dreams from my Father.

Posted by: ecbmtrumpeter | March 29, 2008 3:10 PM

That's nice to know about Michele, however, we are talking about the Presidency of Barack Obama.

Barack would have made a great president if he would have waited another 4 more years (2012) and let his Resume as Senator speak for him, instead of his Books and Speaches.

First of all, Barack is a Liar. According to page 293 of Dreams of My Father The Reverend Wright Sermons of Sharpville and HIROSHIMA and the Policy making of the white house is the reason he joined the Reverend Wright Church. The Reverend Wright was and still popular both in Chicago and out of the State of Illinois. Wright a great organizer and still is. Both Oprah and Colin Powell were members of the Wright Church but they left. Apparently they must have disagreed with some of the tones of the Wrights Sermons.

According to Barack, the first Sermon that the Reverend Wright preached, when he first attended his church, was "The Audacity of Hope" ( page 293). This is the title of Obama second book ( The Audacity of Hope). Obama cannot and willnot distance himself from the Reverend Wright, he owes a lot to him and the Wright Church. And maybe Wright is as close to him as a brother, because most of his half brothers were raised in Africa and he saw little of them.

Posted by: ecbmtrumpeter | March 29, 2008 3:06 PM

MICHELE OBAMA'S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred". Moreover, she stated that whites in America were "ineradicably racist". The 1985 thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.

Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to "Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first..." However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, "If those "Whites at Princeton" really saw Michelle as one who always would "be Black first," it seems that she gave them that impression".

Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms "separationist" and "integrationist" when describing the views of black people.

Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a "separationist" view of race.

"By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight."

Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her "further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant."

Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.

Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but she elevates black over white in her world.

Posted by: ladya2004 | March 28, 2008 11:19 PM

Posted by: ladya2004 | March 28, 2008 11:14 PM

How can Obama unify a country when he has allegiance to a 'hate" preacher

God damn America!! ???that does not sound like an inspiration to unify America.

How can we believe that Obama has had this pastor for 20 years and yet does not know how hateful and divisive his views are??

Posted by: skrish98 | March 28, 2008 4:32 PM

Hillary Clinton says you "don't choose your family." Actually spouses do choose their family, at least in part. I think Clinton's statement re Obama and Wright is essentially equivalent to Obama saying that Hillary should have left Bill because by standing by him she was ... take your pick: sending the wrong message to young women, setting back women's rights. There are a number of ways to spin it (just see one of the dozens of recent editorials re Mrs. Spitzer).

I think any statement like that, or what Clinton said about Obama (who obviously has a deep personal connection to Wright) is way out of line. And a lot of Democrats will remember in November if she is the nominee.

Posted by: MShake | March 28, 2008 3:59 PM

I am glad Hillary is speaking out about Obama's pastor. Most people I speak with feel like I do--how can Obama be really for a GREAT UNIFIED AMERICA after listening to the likes of Wright preach against all whites. It is matter of racism
whether we like it or not and Obama stuck right with Wright until it caused a snag in his campaign. He does not deserve to be President and beside that he is totally unqualified for the job. Wake up Americans

Posted by: hopefultwo | March 28, 2008 3:41 PM

I am glad Hillary is speaking out about Obama's pastor. Most people I speak with feel like I do--how can Obama be really for a GREAT UNIFIED AMERICA after listening to the likes of Wright preach against all whites. It is matter of racism
whether we like it or not and Obama stuck right with Wright until it caused a snag in his campaign. He does not deserve to be President and beside that he is totally unqualified for the job. Wake up Americans

Posted by: hopefultwo | March 28, 2008 3:41 PM

Hey Umbria, you're exactly right - those aren't "just words". They are uncomfortable truths about our history. I'm sorry that some of you desperate Clinton fanatics, and your political brethren at RushLimbaugh.com and FauxNews, cannot yet face them. Good luck with the alcoholism. I hope you get through the denial stage eventually.

Posted by: B2O2 | March 28, 2008 3:05 PM

Just like she failed to read the NIE before voting to take the country into the worst military blunder since Vietnam, Sen. Clinton has neglected to actually LISTEN to the entire sermons that the FauxNews soundbites came from. This time, however, I guess I can cut her some slack, given that the MEDIA HASN'T EITHER. Not, I'm sure, the pro-Clinton Anne Kornblut.

If you actually GO to youtube, and listen to them, you might learn something entirely surprising that our circulation-starved in-business-to-drum-up-a-story newspapers haven't told you:

1. That the "God D*** America" line that FauxNews and its Clinton-Limbaugh coalition viewers were celebrating so much, came at the end of a sermon that was ENTIRELY about American GOVERNMENTS. American ADMINISTRATIONS, that is, most of which Wright points out have been harmful to African Americans. The corporate media has parroted FauxNews and let millions of white Americans think Wright was dissing them personally, when it was decidedly NOT. THE. CASE.

2. That the "chickens come home to roost" sermon referring to how our foreign policies directly fed into the 9/11 attack, was QUOTING EMBASSADOR PECK, a WHITE embassador who was pointing out the uncomforable truth that our Big Fat Alcoholic American Family still does not want to focus their defensive little consciousness on. Ron Paul, though I don't care for his bare-bones idea of government, was widely demagogued-over at the GOP debates for having the nerve to bring up this very same unfortunate truth. And it's hardly any surprise that our corporate media does not want to approach a subject that they know will be unpopular.

Rev. Wright had it slighly wrong: the most important message here is, "GOD DAMN OUR WORTHLESS AMERICAN MEDIA. SHAME ON THEM. THEY HAVE ZERO PROFESSIONALISM AND OUGHT TO BE PEDDLING FLOWERS AT STOPLIGHTS RATHER THAN SELLING FAKE NEWS LIKE THIS."

Posted by: B2O2 | March 28, 2008 2:45 PM

It comes as no surprise to me that Hillary has moved from the "Kitchen Sink" phase to the "Nuclear Option". She'll definately go down swinging. As she has nothing new to bring to the table, I expect more negativity from here to the convention, interspersed with occasional bouts of trying to appear "presidential".

If she really cared about the party, seems like she could run at least run a clean race, instead of attempting to create doubt about the likely nominee.

Posted by: postfan1 | March 28, 2008 9:25 AM

Reading through the other comments leaves me with a couple of impressions. The first is that "hate speech" is fine when it is directed against a woman. It is apparently okay to call a woman a hag, a crone and similar specifically woman-targeting epithets. I am dismayed at the evidence of sexism of the most egregious kind by purported members of the Democratic party.

This is compounded by the fiction we all seem to need to preserve that the First Ladies of this country are and always have been meek little cookie-baking "helpmeets" who are not intimately involved in government and policy. Take an hour and read a little history, people, and disabuse yourself of this ridiculous notion. From Abigail Adams to the current First Lady, you will find strong, smart women forced by the chains of sexism to do their work in the background and the shadows of their husbands. Hillary Clinton is excoriated because she is seeking power. Everyone who runs for president is seeking power, but seeking power is only a bad thing if you are a (shrill, shrieking, grasping) hag and a crone.

Secondly, I am amazed at the vicious remarks about Senator Clinton's personal choice to remain married to her philandering husband, which reduces both her and Bill Clinton - in my opinion a *great* president and, surprise, surprise a flawed human being - to objects of the prurient, judgmental, hypocritical scorn of a whole lot of other flawed human beings. The stance seems to be "go ahead, ruin the economy, plunge the nation into war and recession, make life worse for millions of Americans - as long as you are faithful to your wife!" The only husband whose fidelity I care about is my own - everyone else's is none of my business and completely devoid of interest to me. I want a president who runs the country well and don't give a rat's patooty about their private lives.

It is a good thing that Americans are cognizant of and feel so guilty about their racist past that they are very careful about what they say on the race issue and how they say it. Wrongs have been committed that probably cannot be redressed, but repeating them can be avoided. I only hope that Americans will soon become cognizant of and guilty about their sexist PRESENT and start taking the same tack when it comes to woman-bashing.

Hillary Clinton graduated from Yale Law School when Barack Obama was 12 years old. If it wasn't for the work Senator Clinton and others like her did in the 60s and 70s, Senator Obama would very likely not be in the position he is in today. What a hag, huh?

Posted by: rosemary | March 28, 2008 7:31 AM

Regardless of what happens; it is the media that will continue this story for one simple reason: the power elite, money brokers and the silent majority that controls this country are going to do anything and everything to give Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton the Democratic nomination.

They will compromise our morals, values and even our faith to manipulate this campaign.

Everything that is happening is a farce. Everything that is being reported is a distraction for the super delegates to broker this campaign from Barack Obama.

It has nothing to do with this Pastor. It has to do with what the power elite, money brokers and media will be able to compromise the vote for one simple reason Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton cannot do what the power elite, money brokers need to be done as Senator and a traveling speaker.

They need them to manipulate the very truth of this campaign and deter real change by any means necessary.

The day America realize this is all a game and that even though Barack Obama was obedient to where God had placed him, as long as we can stoop to the lowest level of questioning a man's faith and religion, we must admit, we are in the bowels of the most racist and bias campaign that America has never experienced because Bill and Hillary Clinton must do anything and everything to get back into The White House.

All we should be asking is "Why do they really want to return to The White House? Who needs them to stay in this election campaign?

Look at everything that has happened in the last 20 - 50 years. America is at a crossroad. It desperately needs "real change" in order for it to survive. It will not be able to survive with business as usual; with the same old rhetoric, lies and manipulation. They know it and we know; it must change.

If Bill and Hillary Clinton really care about America, they would humble themselves and realize their time is up. It is not about them.

They may try to sabotage this election campaign with all these racial tactics. But they have forgotten. God is still in control and He sees and knows everything.

Posted by: vgw22 | March 28, 2008 2:57 AM

Regardless of what happens; it is the media that will continue this story for one simple reason: the power elite, money brokers and the silent majority that controls this country are going to do anything and everything to give Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton the Democratic nomination.

They will compromise our morals, values and even our faith to manipulate this campaign.

Everything that is happening is a farce. Everything that is being reported is a distraction for the super delegates to broker this campaign from Barack Obama.

It has nothing to do with this Pastor. It has to do with what the power elite, money brokers and media will be able to compromise the vote for one simple reason Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton cannot do what the power elite, money brokers need to be done as Senator and a traveling speaker.

They need them to manipulate the very truth of this campaign and deter real change by any means necessary.

The day America realize this is all a game and that even though Barack Obama was obedient to where God had placed him, as long as we can stoop to the lowest level of questioning a man's faith and religion, we must admit, we are in the bowels of the most racist and bias campaign that America has never experienced because Bill and Hillary Clinton must do anything and everything to get back into The White House.

All we should be asking is "Why do they really want to return to The White House? Who needs them to stay in this election campaign?

Look at everything that has happened in the last 20 - 50 years. America is at a crossroad. It desperately needs "real change" in order for it to survive. It will not be able to survive with business as usual; with the same old rhetoric, lies and manipulation. They know it and we know; it must change.

If Bill and Hillary Clinton really care about America, they would humble themselves and realize their time is up. It is not about them.

They may try to sabotage this election campaign with all these racial tactics. But they have forgotten. God is still in control and He sees and knows everything.

Posted by: vgw22 | March 28, 2008 2:57 AM

Regardless of what happens; it is the media that will continue this story for one simple reason: the power elite, money brokers and the silent majority that controls this country are going to do anything and everything to give Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton the Democratic nomination.

They will compromise our morals, values and even our faith to manipulate this campaign.

Everything that is happening is a farce. Everything that is being reported is a distraction for the super delegates to broker this campaign from Barack Obama.

It has nothing to do with this Pastor. It has to do with what the power elite, money brokers and media will be able to compromise the vote for one simple reason Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton cannot do what the power elite, money brokers need to be done as Senator and a traveling speaker.

They need them to manipulate the very truth of this campaign and deter real change by any means necessary.

The day America realize this is all a game and that even though Barack Obama was obedient to where God had placed him, as long as we can stoop to the lowest level of questioning a man's faith and religion, we must admit, we are in the bowels of the most racist and bias campaign that America has never experienced because Bill and Hillary Clinton must do anything and everything to get back into The White House.

All we should be asking is "Why do they really want to return to The White House? Who needs them to stay in this election campaign?

Look at everything that has happened in the last 20 - 50 years. America is at a crossroad. It desperately needs "real change" in order for it to survive. It will not be able to survive with business as usual; with the same old rhetoric, lies and manipulation. They know it and we know; it must change.

If Bill and Hillary Clinton really care about America, they would humble themselves and realize their time is up. It is not about them.

They may try to sabotage this election campaign with all these racial tactics. But they have forgotten. God is still in control and He sees and knows everything.

Posted by: vgw22 | March 28, 2008 2:56 AM

According to Obama Book Dreams from My Father( page 201), Not only did Obama support the Reverend Wright Sunday Sermons, he also supported Minister Farrakhan Newspaper "The Final Call". Topic like CAUCASIAN WOMAN ADMITS: WHITES ARE THE DEVIL ,which caught his eye, he would buy.

Posted by: ecbmtrumpeer | March 27, 2008 9:45 PM

Posted by: mjno | March 27, 2008 5:15 PM

It appears that Mrs. Clinton has been silent until now to deflect attention from her "Unsavory Religious Affiliations. Copy and paste the URL in your browser:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/20/opinion/main3955108.shtml

The title of this news report: "Hillary's Nasty Pastorate, The Nation: When It Comes To Unsavory Religious Affiliations, Clinton Is A Lot More Vulnerable Than..."

Posted by: bdianam | March 27, 2008 4:11 PM

-- Obama's speech seemed to satisfy the Press --

-


No, those media geeks in the tank for
Obama, were mesmerized and called him
Lincoln. Others like Balz, took a more
removed view and called the praise
unearned, for a speech required of him
for his political neck.

Others, called it for what it was - a
simple attempt to change the subject from Obama attending the church of a racially
divisive crazy-man for 20 years, to
a "discussion on race in America".

-- - your error is in equating Obama as the same person as Wright --

Clank! Reread. Didn't say that.


-- Your statements suggesting Obama is a racist are ridiculous. --

Clank! Reread. Didn't say that.

Here is the problem. One More Time -
slowly for the mesemerized. It's not
hard;


Rev. Wright spewed extremist, racially
divisive ideology, with malice in his
voice.

Barack Obama, the proclaimed racial uniter
to whom words matter, attended.

At worst, he subscribed to it. At best, he
looked the other way. For 20 years.


Next...


;-)

-

Posted by: straightmedia | March 27, 2008 2:54 AM

cjflucker, why you need long explantion? It is simple answer, Obama associated with anti-white and anti-America over 20 years, he had Wright as spiritual advisor, he lied to us he never heard that kind of sermon before, wife is proud of being American first time, refused to wear American flag pin, reject to respect toward The Pledge and Anthem, two years Senator has 8 million dollors house, got the money from the criminal Rezko, are those behavior not enough to drop out campaign? His action doesn't match with his words, Obama is disqualified for the President, that's the answer.

Posted by: kreisch | March 26, 2008 11:33 PM

In 1983 Barack Obama graduated from Columbia University and while still in his mid twenties began working as a community organizer on the south side of Chicago. Having grown up without a father and in a non religious environment, it was then that Barack Obama began attending Trinity United Church of Christ and met the pastor of the church, Rev. Wright, a black man 20 years his senior, who became influential in his life and became part of his family, his "adopted uncle", and who helped Barack Obama become a Christian believer.
Barack Obama has strongly denounced Wright's hyperbolic, 1960s style radical rhetoric that Wright has used in a few of his sermons that is based on Wright's extreme anger and bitterness which Obama understands but doesn't share. But Barack Obama has refused to disown his "adopted uncle" simply for political expediency.

Posted by: bobwestafer | March 26, 2008 11:02 PM

I cannot believe some of you people. If Obama's pastor, or anybody's pastor used your name specifically in a sermon of racism and anti white and anti America {i.e. "Hillary has never been call a N----R, because, etc.) would't you have the right to make a statement? I think so. If he would just leave that church, more people would rally around him so fast, including ME...nonniepoppy

Posted by: philfran2 | March 26, 2008 9:40 PM

Ms. Clinton's Washington, DC pastor this

morning endorses Rev. Wright:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/pastor-of-clintons-forme_n_93418.html

Personally, it's great!

At least the Ministers are showing unity.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 8:03 PM

Ms. Clinton's Washington, DC pastor this

morning endorses Rev. Wright:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/pastor-of-clintons-forme_n_93418.html

Personally, it's great!

At least the Ministers are showing unity.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 8:03 PM

Dem's

It is important for each and every person to take responsibility for themselves and read everything they need to read about all of the issues above, inter alia and decide for themselves who you want to vote for.

It might help to stop listening to other people and omit the smear camps. Some of the smear camps and bloggers sound like Republican trolls trying to anguish you. NOT to say ALL Republicans are trolls, just a few. SO Please! Stop being misguided by trolls. Too much hate being spewed here.

Your choice should be based on your collective knowledge of facts. Not hearsay or smears and definitely not too many blogs. Blogs are inundated with trolls.

From reading so many blogs I tend to find Hillary's people fight for her and will even mention her name and say things in favor of her. Barack's people do the same thing, but tend to be more protective of him and they generally sign off with, Go Obama.

If the above is not visible, I ignore them.

I don't believe Hillary or Obama are racist. Obama enjoyed getting our young people involved in politics and has done a great job doing so. Hillary and Obama are pretty good at addressing issues. Makes politics exciting.

As a Democrat, I would love to see Obama and Clinton on the same ticket.

We are Democrats and their are a lot of racist Republicans on the blogs trying to up-set the party by bringing divisivness
into our camps.

First eliminate watching pasted YouTube links, they are generally debasing, whether
it's directed at Hillary or Obama.

Please. Let's stick together Dem's. and stop the hyperbole.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 7:38 PM

Dem's

It is important for each and every person to take responsibility for themselves and read everything they need to read about all of the issues above, inter alia and decide for themselves who you want to vote for.

It might help to stop listening to other people and omit the smear camps. Some of the smear camps and bloggers sound like Republican trolls trying to anguish you. Please! Stop being misguided by trolls. Too much hate being spewed.

Your choice should be based on your collective knowledge of facts. Not hearsay or smears and definitely not too many blogs. Blogs are inundated with trolls.

From reading so many blogs I tend to find Hillary's people fight for her and will even mention her name and say things in favor of her. Barack's people do the same thing, but tend to be more protective of him and they generally sign off with, Go Obama.

If the above is not visible, I ignore them.

I don't believe Hillary or Obama are racist. Obama enjoyed getting our young people involved in politics and has done a great job doing so. Hillary and Obama are pretty good at addressing issues. Makes politics exciting.

As a Democrat, I would love to see Obama and Clinton on the same ticket.

We are Democrats and their are a lot of racist Republicans on the blogs trying to up-set the party by bringing divisivness
into our camps.

First eliminate watching pasted YouTube links, they are generally debasing, whether
it's directed at Hillary or Obama.

Please. Let's stick together Dem's. and stop the hyperbole.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 7:35 PM

JackD.
Who the heck is Glenn Thrush, and what are his credentials? More garbage, two steps removed, and dripping out as if Politico were the source. Where is the research, and where is the empirical evidence, not just urban myth?

I can say that the moon is made of green cheese; if said enough times, people will believe it. That's the problem here, folks.
No sourcing, just junk, trash, non-journalism. Fit for fools and thieves, all of it. You would get an F for your hard work. It is simply trash from a blogger, and you believe it. That's truly sad my friend. Truly sad.
Suppose it were you or me that couldn't speak what they felt it was their duty to speak. Am I wrong? Is it not a free country? Or is it free for some, and limited or none for the rest? That's what we're dealing with. A nation of sheep.
When it happens to you, you may think and feel differently. Until then, think before you use not a primary or secondary source, but the worst kind - illiterate and non-factual.

Posted by: thesfg1 | March 26, 2008 7:26 PM

Our society needs to be color blind. Racist statements made by people of any color need to be condemned whether they are from Rev. Wright, Don Imus, David Duke or Farrakhan. This is the only way the country can move forward.

Does anyone here really think that Bill and Hillary Clinton would not have walked out of any church in America that denigrated one race in favor of another? The whole concept is absurd.

So why didn't Barak Obama show the same strength of character and resolve that we know most intelligent americans would have shown?

The only problem is that she should have gone after Obama on this in the stretch between Iowa and Super Tuesday. Then we democrats wouldn't be in this mess!

Posted by: boothe | March 26, 2008 7:23 PM

Well, thank God she finally said something about it! She sat back and said nothing while he attacked her again and again in his speech, bringing up Ferraro numerous times, while Hillary said nothing. It's about time she said something. The only reason she has waited this long was because she DIDN'T want to be more divisive, but with Obama in the mix, there is no hope for that. He is dividing this country. Yes, she chose to stay married to her husband (a private affair), but there is no way anyone can call themselves a true American and listen to Wright's words for 20 years. And if you are talking about spouses, how about Michelle Obama, who has publicly stated, despite all the priviledges she has had, that she is just now proud to be American? That is far more damaging to this country than what Bill Clinton did in the past, which was between a husband and wife and her choice to stay or leave. Do we really want that woman as an ambassador for our country? Get real people.

Posted by: tkarol3 | March 26, 2008 7:13 PM

I agree with most posters. Rev. Wright if you take the time to watch more than a soundbyte he didn't say anything that I found anti white. I really don't know where you people are getting that from. I think the people making a stink about this are either close minded GOP's or Hillary supporters. You can't find anything with Obama directly so now we are trying to blame him for what was said at a couple sermons that he didn't even attend. Nice try. Obama '08.

Posted by: Carolp23 | March 26, 2008 7:10 PM

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 6:47 PM

JakeD;
Are you referring to the 30 second splice and dice that the Tarmac Terror mentioned, or something else?
Give me a reference; if not, go look it up.

Posted by: thesfg1 | March 26, 2008 5:30 PM

So, who was Wright QUOTING when he said: "Italians Look Down Their Garlic Noses ... Gave Jesus Public Lynching Italian Style"?

Who was Michelle Obama QUOTING when she said: "It's easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions, it makes you feel justified in your own ignorance...That's America"?

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 5:21 PM

"Well, if jeremiah Wright is an example of this, so help us GOD. This man is a downright racist." Jennilozer

Is your head a substitute for your rear? Did you take the time to actually read the transcript of the sermon(s) you so glibly object to, or look at the full-length sermon, out of which came the simpleton slice from Hannity? What if your father or mother were accused of quoting someone, and because of that quote they lost their job, or were thrown out of the church they were in, or had their children taken from them, or, I don't know, maybe some really nasty thing like taking away their citizenship, or getting a dishonorable discharge, or losing their pension, or their social security, or their health insurance, or a host of other things; what if it was your own family who that might have happened to? Would you so glibly toss it off, blame it on someone else, leave the family, maybe?
Would you think that you'd want to ask a few questions, or does it matter to you, or any of the other small minded people in this playground?
Do your research, learn a little about the subject, make all the comments you want to, but please don't tell other people what they SHOULD have done, as the Tarmac Terror (candidate Clinton) did.

Posted by: thesfg1 | March 26, 2008 4:29 PM

Why shouldn't Hillary comment on this issue? You can bet this alone has nearly eliminated Obama's chance to win in November. Remember, he knee-capped himself with Wright by sitting in the pews for 20 years, etc. If Obama is identified as the nominee the Repulicans will immediately start their full scale assult on this issue and McCain will win in a landslide. Therefore, in my humble opinion, Hillary better do everything she can to get the nomination or, we the democrats, are doomed again in November. So MSM, if Sen. Obama isn't able to get our nomination because he continues to get an all but free pass, doesn't it behoove us all to find that out now, before it is too late? Or do some the good ole' boys in the MSM, RNC, and possibly the DNC fear a female as "Commander in Chief" so badly that your willing to concede the general election to anyone, as long as it's not Hillary? America really needs her. She is the best choice we have to restore our standing at home and abroad. I am far from alone in that opinion. Take a look at her position papers, plans, and solutions for America, then you decide. After that you will vote Hillary. I know I am. Thank you for considering America first. KY

Posted by: maryobryan | March 26, 2008 4:16 PM

Pastor Wright is not a racist.


WORTH READING:

Since you like to quote Dr.King (as do I), here's one that ran in the Washington Post news paper column last week. It speaks to today's situation just as much as it spoke to the Vietnam War generation, and it reads to me as a more sanitized version of Rev. Wright's oft-viewed "G-D America" clip:


"God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war. . . . And we are criminals in that war. We've committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world, and I'm going to continue to say it. And we won't stop it because of our pride and our arrogance as a nation. But God has a way of even putting nations in their place...[God will say:] And if you don't stop your reckless course, I'll rise up and break the backbone of your power."

We let these SMEAR CAMPS get us all worked - up. . . actually they laugh at your re-actions.

People need to listen to the whole sermon and not just snippets of it.

Listen and judge for yourself.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 4:15 PM

Kelvin25 you said" Together, black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us the way to build a completely new society."

Well, if jeremiah Wright is an example of this, so help us GOD. This man is a downright racist. Marist philosophy is a fiasco and has no place in the USA

Posted by: jenilozer | March 26, 2008 3:45 PM

Well said.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 3:27 PM

Clinton says you can't choose your family but she signifcantly leaves out the one family member you DO choose -- your spouse.

Clinton made a decision to stay with her husband even after he was exposed as a cheater and a liar. She chose to continue to let her daughter be raised by a man controlled by his lusts. She stood by a man who threw the nation into turmoil because he would not admit to his sins. She stayed with him through a long history of sexual misconduct allegations and lawsuits until it culminated in an embarassing incident for the entire nation. Then she blamed it all, not on her husband, but on the "right-wing conspiracy", saying "Ignore the sins of my husband. Attack those who expose such sins".

Why did she stay with her husband? Maybe it was political expediance. She wanted the power. Maybe she saw more goodness in Clinton than the media would have suggested in 1998. Maybe her history with him had convinced her that he was a good man and the sum of his parts was more than a sexual affair and deceit.

But now Clinton attacks Obama for believing in the goodness in Wright. That there's more to Wright than a minute of YouTube video. She feels that that minute, culled over decades, is worse than the good Wright has done for the people of Chicago and elsewhere. She questions why Obama did not cast Wright off.

There is an old saying about glass houses and stones. Clinton would be wise to heed it rather than act self-righteous.

Posted by: iofiel | March 26, 2008 3:21 PM

Obama/Richardson/Edwards'08

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 2:49 PM

Obama/Richardson/Edwards'08

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 2:49 PM

Obama/Richardson/Edwards'08

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 2:49 PM

McCain/Clinton '08!

Posted by: edespelder | March 26, 2008 2:36 PM

RESPONSE TO: Posted by: hhkeller |
March 26, 2008 01:37 PM

Hillary plays the groupies like a fiddle. Throwing White's around like a pet rabbit. Even if she should win the nom she'll lose a good third of dems and most indies in the process. Her Preacher, Rev. William Procanick, SEE BELOW is just the tip of Hillary's inner problem iceberg. She suffers from some kind of personal psycosis which probably started as a kid but maybe she. . . drug use enhanced.
Bush had similar psyche issues that weren't resolved.


HILLARY'S - PASTOR, convicted of child molestation.
READ:
When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his sex-abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified.

Okay, so now that Clinton's pastor has been convicted of child molestation, will see see the same furor directed at Hillary that Obama has had to endure these last few days? - M. R.

½
½

IF A CANDIDATE IS KNOWN BY THE PASTOR THEY KEEP ......
Then you need to email this article to everyone you know. Here the CLINTON'S Pastor is convicted of child molestation.


See throwing stones is not the answer!

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 2:24 PM

When Hillary was a member of the board of directors for six years at Walmart (which she does not list on her resume, but is included in her "35 years of experience"), and one of her mentors and fellow board members said "Labor unions are nothing but blood-sucking parasites living off the productive labor of people who work for a living."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4218509&page=1

Why is it that Hillary didn't quit the board of directors immediately? It's true you can't choose your family but you can choose your church. Hillary may have heard, though, that tolerance, compassion and forgiveness are "supposed" to be major parts of any religion. Hillary would quit her church if she disagreed with her pastor but would happily stay for 6 years as Wal-mart directors call labor union members "blood-sucking parasites."

Is this who you want running the country?

I think we need a new word for Hillary: hyperactive hypocrisy = hypercrisy.

Posted by: menospaamthereaper | March 26, 2008 2:13 PM

Hold it Roy3,

If the question about Rev Wright in Pittsburg was just raised by a random journalist, then why was she reading a prepared script as her answer? Just more of the same devisive desperate tactics from a lost cause.

Posted by: rfling | March 26, 2008 2:05 PM

If Hillary has a "USE" for you, I really don't think she cares what color you are.

So...You are useful to her at the moment.

Big deal being used, huh.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | March 26, 2008 1:59 PM


Obama plays the groupies like a fiddle. Throwing the race card around like its a pet rabbit. Even if he should win the nom he lost a good third of dems and most indies in the process. His Wright mentor is just the tip of Obamas inner problem iceberg. Obama suffers from some kind of personal psycosis which probably started as a kid but may be drug use enhanced.
Bush had similar psyche issues that weren't resolved.

Posted by: hhkeller | March 26, 2008 1:37 PM

Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines
Margaret Talev | McClatchy Newspapers
last updated: March 20, 2008 06:50:02 PM

WASHINGTON -- Jesus is black. Merging Marxism with Christian Gospel may show the way to a better tomorrow. The white church in America is the Antichrist because it supported slavery and segregation.

Those are some of the more provocative doctrines that animate the theology at the core of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Barack Obama's church.

Obama's speech Tuesday on race in America was hailed as a masterful handling of the controversy over divisive sermons by the longtime pastor of Trinity United, the recently retired Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

But in repudiating and putting in context Wright's inflammatory lines about whites and U.S. foreign policy, the Democratic presidential front-runner didn't address other potentially controversial facts about his church and its ties.

Wright has said that a basis for Trinity's philosophies is the work of James Cone, who founded the modern black liberation theology movement out of the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Particularly influential was Cone's seminal 1969 book, "Black Theology & Black Power."

Cone wrote that the United States was a white racist nation and the white church was the Antichrist for having supported slavery and segregation.

Today, Cone, a professor at Union Theological Seminary in New York, stands by that view, but also makes clear that he doesn't believe that whites individually are the Antichrist.

In an interview, Cone said that when he was asked which church most embodied his message, "I would point to that church (Trinity) first." Cone also said he thought that Wright's successor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, would continue the tradition.

Obama, 46, who's biracial, joined Trinity in his late twenties when he worked as a community organizer. He says he'll continue to worship there.

He and other Chicagoans have praised Trinity's role as a melting pot that brings together blacks and some whites from all levels of wealth and education, boasts a joyous and energetic choir, and is deeply involved in community work, such as helping the homeless, the incarcerated and those touched by HIV and AIDS.

But Trinity has a history. Its affiliation with the United Church of Christ makes it part of a liberal, mostly white denomination that was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.

Trinity goes further, embracing black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces.

In that and related doctrines, the church and some of its guiding thinkers at times have been socially ahead of the curve and other times outside the mainstream of American religious and political thought.

For example, the 8,000-member congregation embraces the idea that Jesus was black. It's historically supported left-wing social and foreign policies, from South Africa to Latin America to the Middle East.

Wright, who hasn't been giving interviews since the controversy broke, told conservative TV talk-show host Sean Hannity last year that Trinity's black value system also had parallels to the liberation theology of laypeople in Nicaragua three decades ago. There, liberation theology became associated with Marxist revolution and the Sandinistas, and split the Roman Catholic Church.

White America today embraces Nelson Mandela, and he won the Nobel peace prize. But in the early 1980s, when the U.S. government considered Mandela's anti-Apartheid African National Congress a terrorist organization because of its support from communists and use of violence, Trinity became one of the first U.S. churches to support the group.

It isn't clear where Obama's beliefs and the church's diverge. Through aides, Obama declined requests for an interview or to respond to written questions about his thoughts on Jesus, Cone or liberation theology. Trinity officials also didn't respond to requests.

Obama's Illinois state and U.S. Senate voting records and his speeches suggest that, if elected president, he'd take a liberal but mainstream line and seek partisan bridge-building rather than agitation as his style.

It's possible that Obama joined Trinity as much because it gave him credibility as a newcomer to south side Chicago's black community as for its particular theological teachings.

"As a community organizer, would people join Trinity? Yes!" said Dwight Hopkins, a Trinity member and liberation theology professor at the University of Chicago's divinity school. (He said he'd contributed $25 to Obama's campaign.)

However, "someone who wanted to run for public office would think twice about intentionally using Trinity as a leverage," Hopkins said. "When it's Election Day, all the politicians come to Trinity. But not every day."

Cone, the Union professor, said he didn't know Obama personally. He supports his candidacy and considers the senator's worldview as set out in books and speeches "certainly not alien to black theology.

"But it doesn't have as much of a radical edge to it," Cone said of Obama's view. "He couldn't succeed with my message. He speaks less of the hurt and the pain of African-American history. I think his own life has been less of that."

But Cone stands by his message, and sometimes Obama echoes it.

Consider this passage: "Hope is the expectation of that which is not. It is the belief that the impossible is possible, the 'not yet' is coming in history."

Those words sound as if they were pulled from Obama's latest campaign speech. Instead, they're from a memoir Cone wrote in the 1980s. In it, Cone said blacks shouldn't limit their hope to what the Republican and Democratic parties stand for. Then he posited a thought that voters are unlikely to hear from Obama:

"Together, black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us the way to build a completely new society."

Posted by: KEVIN25 | March 26, 2008 1:36 PM

I 100% support Sen. Hillary Clinton, she is the best candidate to become our first female president of the United States of America. VOTE ONLY FOR HILLARY.!!!!

Posted by: akber_kassam | March 26, 2008 1:27 PM

To answer to Jake (2nd posting):
OK, Obama's middle name is HUSSEIN, and so what?

Posted by: samyaa | March 26, 2008 12:48 PM

Clinton on Bosnia, Obama on his days as a"community activist" or the legislation he has gotten "passed" or "what he knew and when he knew it" on Reverend Wright.

They all sound like fish stories to me.

Posted by: lithium452 | March 26, 2008 12:35 PM

fmlndn71:

She DID comment on the behavior of her NY superdelegate who recently resigned: "I'm deeply saddened by this turn of events and my thoughts are with Governor Spitzer's family during this painful time."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-12-spitzer-superdel_N.htm

Were you referring to some OTHER NY superdelegate who recently resigned?

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 12:31 PM

HILLARY WANTS TO REVENGE ON BILL CLINTON !!!!

Hi Folks, there is something most of you fail to understand.... WHY HILLARY DESPERATELY WANTS THE WHITE HOUSE !!

Remember BILL and MONICA,

HILLARY WANTS TO DO IT ALSO IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHILE BILL IS IN THE LIVING QUARTERS.

GUESS WHO THE GUY IS??

Posted by: ayuk_o | March 26, 2008 12:28 PM

So Sen. clinton would choose a church based on the sermans she WANTS tho hear.
The United Methodist church thinks the pastor should preach what the congregation NEEDS to hear.
"The Lord was with me; I'll never be invited back there again." -- John Wesley

Posted by: F_L_Palmer | March 26, 2008 12:26 PM

Unity! :-D

Posted by: rat-the | March 26, 2008 12:23 PM

figcole:

That "logic" holds only if you equate racism with adultery.

Posted by: JakeD | March 26, 2008 12:21 PM

RUTHLESS!!! That is HRC. She admitted in her speech that it was a personal matter that Obama had to deal with; she continued to comment on it. It's obvious she still hasn't listened to Obamas speech or the sermon by Wright. The underlying message in his sermon - When Government acts like GOD; GOD will put you back in your place.
She is a HYPOCRITE! Why isn't she commenting on the behavior of her NY superdelegate who recently resigned. HRC is a LIAR!! No doubt about it.

Posted by: fmlndn71 | March 26, 2008 12:20 PM

Senator Clinton states that Senator Obama should have gotten up and moved from the Reverend Wright's church. If one follows the logic of Clinton's aguement,one must ask Clinton why she did not get up and move from the White House when her husband was conducting his sordid affair there, denying it to the American public, and trashing the White House and the office of the Presidency. th


Posted by: figcole | March 26, 2008 12:18 PM

Senator Clinton states that Senator Obama should have gotten up and moved from the Reverend Wright's church. If one follows the logic of Clinton's aguement,one must ask Clinton why she did not get up and move from the White House when her husband was conducting his sordid affair there, denying it to the American public, and trashing the White House and the office of the Presidency. th


Posted by: figcole | March 26, 2008 12:16 PM

For the first time in my life I'm actually impressed with Clinton; usually white liberals will hold the liberal standard that only white people can be racist.
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Posted by: Brad8 | March 26, 2008 11:30 AM

Perhaps Sen. Clinton is angling for the GOP VP spot. McCain-Clinton would be a "dream team" for the GOP.

She would:

1) help him among women
2)provide an experienced foreign policy advisor with a similar voting record on the issues
3) allow him to stay above the fray as she attacks Obama's patriotism, inexperience and blackness

Posted by: steveboyington | March 26, 2008 11:25 AM

It's easy and very convenient for Senator Clinton to say she'd change pastors. But perhaps if it really happened in her life, she'd consult her faith, pray and decide to stick by him even though he was obviously wrong. I'm pretty sure if Bill Clinton pulled half the stunts he pulled, most women on the outside looking in would say Bill "would not have been their husband."

Maybe Hillary should get some sleep and start getting the facts of her own life right instead of weighing in on Rev. Wright.

Posted by: bjensen | March 26, 2008 10:57 AM

Ms. Clinton's Washington, DC pastor this morning endorses Rev. Wright:

"The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times," Snyder wrote. "He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/pastor-of-clintons-forme_n_93418.html

Posted by: lexi1 | March 26, 2008 10:42 AM

alesterp...I totally agree with you. This whole Rev. Wright escapade just reinforces my belief that the media can control the thought processes of a lot of people. I read responses on this posting about things such as Rev. Wright is racist, anti-semite, anti-American or Obama's kids go to this church so he is raising a generation bigots.

Even the Clinton's own former pastor in D.C. defended Rev. Wright's 30+ years in the ministry as well as former Republican candidate Mike Huckabee. Heck, Rev. Wright was invited to (and met Bill Clinton) the White House to attend a prayer breakfast prior to the Lewinski trial. If Rev. Wright is such a bigot, racist, anti-American, and anti-semite, why in the hell would a sitting President invite him to the White House in on of the most darkest days in Bill Clinton's political and public life?

Secondly, in all the these 3 or 4 10-second videos clips of Rev. Wright's sermon there are no children in the pews. So for political pundits like Pat Buchanan to make these claims of children hearing some of the more fiery sermons of Rev. Wright is not true.

Posted by: ajtiger92 | March 26, 2008 10:38 AM

Why is Hillary responding to this? Who cares what Hillary Clinton thinks? Barack Obama's decision to stay as a member of Rev. Wright's church has to be a decision between him and God. It's not anyone elses business. His spiritual leader has to do with his soul, not his politics. And anyone, and I mean anyone who believes that Barach Obama or any other African-American is one-dimensional and unable to separate church and state, in sorely misinformed. Taking little bites of Rev. Wright's sermon and making it the sum of his totality is ridiculous. Let this go. Let's get on with the business of eliminating the ills in America...the failing economy, jobs being shipped overseas, health care, the war in Iraq and the loss of American servicemen and women, the long terms of deployment for our servicemen and women, etc.

Posted by: alesterp | March 26, 2008 9:52 AM

If many voters share the Chicago pastor's view of America and white folks, they are a long way from the white house. Many immigrants who are expected to out grow them in numbers do not share their views - so they can pretend that Obama will win and every person who voted for him will live happily ever after. Blacks and whites do not make up all of the electorate. Many immigrants do and will outnumber them. So living in the past - where blacks and whites were the only voting Americans- will not help - Obama is neither black nor white - he is using both to be President - as far as changing anything - look at the folks who run his campaign - losers like Daschel, Kerry, etc.

Posted by: hrao | March 26, 2008 9:51 AM

Good, candidates are supposed to criticize each other. Goody two-shoes Obama is not going to change that.

I have had a pastor for many years. That is because I agree with him in the main. No one sticks with a pastor they find whose sermons they find repulsive. So, not so goody two-shoes after all.

Obama is toast now for a general election. Thanks to the morons who voted for him, we may lose the White House, AGAIN.

Superdelegates, do your job.

Posted by: Chicago1 | March 26, 2008 9:44 AM

Has it gotten to the point where Obama supporters are so hyper defensive that Hillary Clinton can't even suggest what course she might have taken had she been in Obama's place with regard to Rev. Wright?

This has to be among the most absurd reactions from the Obama camp, right up there with shouting racist every other comment Hillary or Bill Clinton has made during this campaign until finally Obama was personally forced to hang his head publicly and admit the Clintons have an impeccable record on civil rights issues.

Posted by: ichief | March 26, 2008 9:35 AM

Has it gotten to the point where Obama supporters are so hyper defensive that Hillary Clinton can't even suggest what course she might have taken had she been in Obama's place with regard to Rev. Wright?

This has to be among the most absurd reactions from the Obama camp, right up there with shouting racist every other comment Hillary or Bill Clinton has made during this campaign until finally Obama was personally forced to hang his head publicly and admit the Clintons have an impeccable record on civil rights issues.

Posted by: ichief | March 26, 2008 9:35 AM

Hillary is shameless, this we know. But her continuing to drag down the party is now the responsibility of party leaders who are letting her do it. They simply can throw their support to Obama and she's gone. Asking her to step down is idiotic as she only wants personal power and won't relinquish it until she's been beaten.

Why this story about her comment on Wright is meaningful is that she's been asked for 10 days to comment on the Wright story and she refused. Now, all of a sudden because she was asked a question, that legitimizes a response? Bull! She got in trouble for her lies about ALL of her supposed foreign policy experience and she had to change the topic. She is not strong, she is Bushonian. That's not what this country needs, a Bush in Democratic clothing. Be gone old hag.

Posted by: DeboG | March 26, 2008 9:28 AM

Posted by: lexi1 | March 26, 2008 9:15 AM

THE "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" OF REV. WRIGHT AND THE TRINITY UCC IS THE THEOLOGY EMBRACED BY BARACK OBAMA, WHO HAS REFUSED TO REPUDIATE WRIGHT OR THE THEOLOGY OF WRIGHT. WRIGHT OPENLY PROCLAIMED THE THEOLOGY AND IDEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE IS THE THEOLOGY OF TRINITY UCC AT LEAST SIX TIMES IN INCESSANTLY REFERRING TO THE THEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE WHEN SPEAKING TO SEAN HANNITY IN THE OFTEN REPLAYED CABLE INTERVIEW WITH WRIGHT. THAT THEOLOGY IS AN AFRO-CENTRIC THEOLOGY AKIN TO THE QURAN'S MANY PASSAGES PROCLAIMING ISLAM AS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION AND PROMOTING DIVISIVENESS WITH OTHER THEOLOGIES. SEE, E.G., QURAN, SURA 5: 51: "O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors. " AGAIN, HERE IS SOME OF JAMES CON'S TEACHINGS:

"If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." (James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, 'Divine Racism," in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed. Cornel West, Eddie Glaube, 2003)

James Cone, whom Rev Wright highly admires, goes on further: "Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white . . . When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto)." (James Cone: Black Theology and Black Power, 1997).


IT IS APPARENT THAT THE PRESS HAS NOT DONE ITS JOB IN EXPLORING BARACK OBAMA'S PROFESSED "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" AND HIS POLITICS. WHY? OBAMA HAS REPEATEDLY STRESSED HIS "CHRISTIANITY" AND HIS SPIRITUAL CONNECTION WITH WRIGHT AND HIS CHURCH, BUT THE PRESS HAS NOT DELVED INTO THE "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" PRACTICED BY OBAMA AND HIS WIFE MICHELLE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. HOW DOES OBAMA RECONCILE THE RACIST AND DIVISIVE HATRED ESPOUSED BY JAMES CONE AND PRACTICED BY JEREMIAH WRIGHT WITH OBAMA'S PUBLICLY PROFESSED VISION OF UNITY. IF OBAMA TRULY BELIEVES IN UNITING AMERICA WHY HAS HE NOT LEFT THE TRINITY UCC FOR ANOTHER CHRISTIAN CHURCH THAT PROMOTES UNITY, SUCH AS ROMAN CATHOLICISM, SINCE HE WAS EDUCATED IN CATHOLIC SCHOOLS IN JAKARTA AND HONOLULU. IS IT BECAUSE "OBAMA'S CHRISTIANITY " DOES NOT ACCEPT MORE INCLUSIVE CHRISTIAN SECTS THAT PROMOTE NON-AFRO-CENTRIC THEOLOGY.

OBAMA CLEVERLY TURNED AN ISSUE ABOUT HIS RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATIONS AND THEOLOGY INTO A DEBATE ON RACE. MOREOVER, THE PRESS WAS APPARENTLY SO BEGUILED BY OBAMA'S MARCH 18 SPEECH THAT NO MEMBER OF THE PRESS WOULD DELVE INTO THE INCONSISTENCIES PRESENTED BY OBAMA THE UNITY CANDIDATE AND OBAMA THE CONGREGANT OF AN AFRO-CENTRIC CHURCH. THAT THEOLOGICALLY IS UNDENIABLY DIVISIVE AND RACIST. WHY WOULD A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EMBRACE SUCH A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY?

HOW CAN A PROFESSED "CHRISTIAN" WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT ON A PROMISE OF UNITY PROCLAIMING, "THERE ARE NO RED STATES OR BLUE STATES, THERE IS ONLY THE UNITED STATES" BE ANYTHING BUT A SLICK IMPOSTOR IF HE HAS EMBRACED THE IDEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS? ACCORDING TO JAMES CONE AND REV. WRIGHT, "Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." (James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, 'Divine Racism," in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed. Cornel West, Eddie Glaube, 2003)

WOULD HILLARY CLINTON BE EXCORIATED IN THE PRESS IF SHE ESPOUSED A DIVISIVE AND EXCLUSIVE WHITE GOD ONLY CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY?

LET THIS SERIOUS PUBLIC DEBATE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA'S IDEOLOGY AND ELECTABILITY BEGIN IN EARNEST. AMERICA NEEDS AN OPEN NATIONAL DEBATE ABOUT THE IDEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY OF THE DEMOCRATIC FRONTRUNNER.

Posted by: KEVIN25 | March 26, 2008 8:59 AM

THE "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" OF REV. WRIGHT AND THE TRINITY UCC IS THE THEOLOGY EMBRACED BY BARACK OBAMA, WHO HAS REFUSED TO REPUDIATE WRIGHT OR THE THEOLOGY OF WRIGHT. WRIGHT OPENLY PROCLAIMED THE THEOLOGY AND IDEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE IS THE THEOLOGY OF TRINITY UCC AT LEAST SIX TIMES IN INCESSANTLY REFERRING TO THE THEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE WHEN SPEAKING TO SEAN HANNITY IN THE OFTEN REPLAYED CABLE INTERVIEW WITH WRIGHT. THAT THEOLOGY IS AN AFRO-CENTRIC THEOLOGY AKIN TO THE QURAN'S MANY PASSAGES PROCLAIMING ISLAM AS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION AND PROMOTING DIVISIVENESS WITH OTHER THEOLOGIES. SEE, E.G., QURAN, SURA 5: 51: "O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors. " AGAIN, HERE IS SOME OF JAMES CON'S TEACHINGS:

"If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." (James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, 'Divine Racism," in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed. Cornel West, Eddie Glaube, 2003)

James Cone, whom Rev Wright highly admires, goes on further: "Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white . . . When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto)." (James Cone: Black Theology and Black Power, 1997).

IT IS APPARENT THAT THE PRESS HAS NOT DONE ITS JOB IN EXPLORING BARACK OBAMA'S PROFESSED "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" AND HIS POLITICS. WHY? OBAMA HAS REPEATEDLY STRESSED HIS "CHRISTIANITY" AND HIS SPIRITUAL CONNECTION WITH WRIGHT AND HIS CHURCH, BUT THE PRESS HAS NOT DELVED INTO THE "BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY" PRACTICED BY OBAMA AND HIS WIFE MICHELLE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. HOW DOES OBAMA RECONCILE THE RACIST AND DIVISIVE HATRED ESPOUSED BY JAMES CONE AND PRACTICED BY JEREMIAH WRIGHT WITH OBAMA'S PUBLICLY PROFESSED VISION OF UNITY. IF OBAMA TRULY BELIEVES IN UNITING AMERICA WHY HAS HE NOT LEFT THE TRINITY UCC FOR ANOTHER CHRISTIAN CHURCH THAT PROMOTES UNITY, SUCH AS ROMAN CATHOLICISM, SINCE HE WAS EDUCATED IN CATHOLIC SCHOOLS IN JAKARTA AND HONOLULU. IS IT BECAUSE "OBAMA'S CHRISTIANITY " DOES NOT ACCEPT MORE INCLUSIVE CHRISTIAN SECTS THAT PROMOTE NON-AFRO-CENTRIC THEOLOGY.

OBAMA CLEVERLY TURNED AN ISSUE ABOUT HIS RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATIONS AND THEOLOGY INTO A DEBATE ON RACE. MOREOVER, THE PRESS WAS APPARENTLY SO BEGUILED BY OBAMA'S MARCH 18 SPEECH THAT NO MEMBER OF THE PRESS WOULD DELVE INTO THE INCONSISTENCIES PRESENTED BY OBAMA THE UNITY CANDIDATE AND OBAMA THE CONGREGANT OF AN AFRO-CENTRIC CHURCH. THAT THEOLOGICALLY IS UNDENIABLY DIVISIVE AND RACIST. WHY WOULD A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EMBRACE SUCH A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY?

HOW CAN A PROFESSED "CHRISTIAN" WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT ON A PROMISE OF UNITY PROCLAIMING, "THERE ARE NO RED STATES OR BLUE STATES, THERE IS ONLY THE UNITED STATES" BE ANYTHING BUT A SLICK IMPOSTOR IF HE HAS EMBRACED THE IDEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY OF JAMES CONE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS? ACCORDING TO JAMES CONE AND REV. WRIGHT, "Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." (James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, 'Divine Racism," in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed. Cornel West, Eddie Glaube, 2003)

WOULD HILLARY CLINTON BE EXCORIATED IN THE PRESS IF SHE ESPOUSED A DIVISIVE AND EXCLUSIVE WHITE GOD ONLY CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY?

LET THIS SERIOUS PUBLIC DEBATE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA'S IDEOLOGY AND DELECTABILITY BEGIN IN EARNEST. AMERICA NEEDS AN OPEN NATIONAL DEBATE ABOUT THE IDEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY OF THE DEMOCRATIC FRONTRUNNER.

Posted by: KEVIN25 | March 26, 2008 8:56 AM

Hillary could have been a little more subtle, instead she sounded a little more desperate. The classic rejoinder to the Wright debacle as far as Obama is concerned, is to leave the decision up to the voter. If Clinton had said: "It's a matter of personal conscience, which each voter has to decide for his or her self" she would had led the electorate to an inevitable judgment: what Wright said is so abhorrent, Senator Obama should have decried his remarks long before the comments erupted into an election issue. But Hillary chose to play the blame game, leaving less room for each voter, giving the Obama camp the opportunity to charge her with playing politics. This is just one in a host of campaign trail mistakes Hillary has made over the past weeks: the suggestion that Obama would be a good VP candidate after declaring that he was not equipped to answer that three AM White House call: Lying about the landing of her plane in Bosnia, ("misspoke," "Exaggeration" is nonsense) which she then has to recant. Frittering away $120-million in campaign funds through February and then unable to field a ground force in subsequent Primary States that enabled Obama to ravage the countryside with lopsided victories. It is disappointing when a truly brilliant person like Hillary Clinton shows that she has the experience to make crucial basic mistakes.

Posted by: bigdave1 | March 26, 2008 8:52 AM

For 20 years he sat through the radical and racist rant from that man.He took his young impressionable children to ensure that they learn the black liberation theology well.He made sure that there will be a new generation of follower that believe in this kind of racial hatred.If he doesn't believe everything this guy says,why did he bring his whole family there? I know I stop going when the guest speaker said something offensive about another religion and it took me less than 2 seconds to tell my son never to believe that pastor.Not 20 years.Please fellow democrats,stay home or vote McCain.(just make sure you vote democrat for senate and congress).let's not allow this bigot to lead this country he and his wife are not proud of.

Posted by: tony1161 | March 26, 2008 8:49 AM

It is not an issue of FORGIVENESS and HEALING. Is it so difficult for everyone to understand that we are electing a President and we are all entitled to see their associations and the importance that this could play in their qualifications?

Posted by: Hispana | March 26, 2008 8:27 AM

To kevin25:

Your points were so well put together!!! Please help us enlighten the public by posting your comments in the various newspapers!!!

Posted by: Hispana | March 26, 2008 8:20 AM

It was a bad day for forgiveness and healing.

Go OBAMA

Posted by: grandstreetfund | March 26, 2008 8:17 AM

Barack Obama's "A more Perfect Union" speech may have delighted the media mavens who yearn for America to move past the racial divide by electing a candidate that promises to bring us together and to unify the nation with his oratory, but it did little to eradicate the danger facing the Democratic Party if Obama is its nominee. Why? Because the press has not critically vetted Barack Obama. Nevertheless, the conservative cable talk show hosts have just begun to seriously attack by feeding the press the inflammatory rhetoric of Obama's Pastor. If the press had done a modicum of due diligence on Obama it would have raised the issue of whether the Barack Obama candidacy is viable given his past and present associations and actions that contradict his purported transcendent candidacy. Simply put, there is ample undisputed evidence available to raise the question: "Is Barack Obama an impostor?" The delving I have done indicates that the press has lost its edge in the Twenty First Century. Glitz is in and critical analysis is out. Look, for example, at the failure to uncover the Enron, WorldCom and other financial frauds such as the sub prime "liar" loans that went unreported on for the most part.

As I see it, the Republican party operatives, immediately following Obama's nomination, will launch a fact based attack on Obama's theology, as practiced by Mr. and Mrs. Obama as members of a church whose pastor consistently stressed to Sean Hannity in an often aired television interview that Obama's church is guided by the teachings of James Cone. In that interview Pastor Wright harped on the fact that his church has followed the "Black Liberation Theology" of theologian James Cone. Indeed, Rev. Wright cited James Cone, another proponent of black liberation theology, as his theological inspiration. Here are just a few of James Cone's quotes: (1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Barack Obama has stressed how Rev. Wright brought him to Christianity and that Obama embraced the teaching of Trinity church as a congregant in his campaign and in his published writings. These teachings are fundamentally racist and divisive. Obama has chosen to belong to this "Black Liberation Theology" church for almost 20 years. Hannity, no friend of Democrats, has been airing Wright's May 2007 interview incessantly to eventually emblazon the association of Wright, Obama and the divisive theology of James Cone on the American body politic once Obama secures the nomination.

The problem is that Obama, in his eloquent speech of Tuesday March 18, did not reject the Afrocentric theology of the Trinity United Church of Christ, nor the application of that theology as practiced by Pastor Jeremiah Wright. Moreover, not only did Obama fail to repudiate Wright, Obama failed to explain how he could belong to a church since the early nineties and embrace its "Black Liberation Theology" on one hand and run for the highest office in the land on the other.

It appears certain that comparing the attacks on Obama's association with divisive theology for almost 20 years following Obama's nomination will make "swiftboating" an inapplicable metaphor. Indeed, it appears almost certain that the damage that will be done to the Democrats following Obama's nomination could make the 1972 McGovern choice of Tom Eagleton as Vice Presidential running mate pale by comparison to 2008 election politics of juxtaposing sexy sound bites and undisputable facts.

Obama's ties to radical "Black Liberation Theology" will be just the beginning. The attack dogs will tie Obama's theology and his actions to radical African politics because the overwhelming majority of the press have not looked into Obama's associations with radical African politicians and Obama's actions in support of those radicals. For example, one only read the stories published in the New York Sun (http://www.nysun.com/article/69273 ) on January 10, 2008 entitled "The Kenya Connection" and Investors Business Daily of January 15, 2008 (http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?status=article&id=285292746454291&secid=1501 )( discussed below) to realize that there is plenty of ammunition available to render Obama's nomination cannon fodder for conservative talk show hosts and television hit pieces that could make "Willie Horton" commercials look like political cream puffs.

Will Obama's ties to radical African politicians such as Raila Odinga, whose political campaigns have been funded by Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and who has forged alliances with fundamentalist Islamic factions cause the Democrats to lose the usually reliable Jewish vote? Will working class whites embrace a black Obama? Will an all out attack on Obama resulting in his defeat in the general election spawn riots across America's inner cities?

These are troubling questions that deserve to be discussed now because the news media and particularly the traditional press have appeared to abdicate their responsibility to have vetted candidate Obama with the healthy skepticism that has long been the hallmark of the free press in America. It behooves us all to raise these issues now rather than become intoxicated with a candidate's oratorical skills and hopeful rhetoric only to later find out that the promise was far different than reality.

Posted by: KEVIN25 | March 26, 2008 8:03 AM

So many of you are downplaying the importance of Obama's connection to Rev.Wright ,church and fringe individuals that are promoting so many troubling ideas in our society. This goes beyond freedom of religion and it should be named for what it is. A group of individuals that here right before our eyes promotes TERRORISM. These HATRED, ANTI-SEMITIC, PRO-HAMAS values and support DO NOT REPRESENT our values and need to be exposed and remembered by all of us.

The Media is responsible for playing a game of ignoring this agenda because of their blind support of this candidate and it is about time that the rest of us take action to continue denouncing Obama for what he represents: LEFTWING RADICAL IDEAS that are extremely dangerous.

No, Obama IS NOT by any means the chosen candidate as the will of the people will be heard. These remaining primaries need to be held to allow people to express their opinion. And Florida and Michigan need to re-vote.

This morning it was so sad to hear Joe Scarborough apologize for mentioning the Wright issue again. I can see how the great majority of liberal pundits have agreed to bury the issue. So, folks it is incumbent on us to take away their power and continue raising this issue.

Posted by: Hispana | March 26, 2008 8:01 AM

Posted by: FirstMouse | March 26, 2008 7:54 AM

Update: 52% who heard speech less likely to vote for Obama? March 2008

All the obama supporters defending him staying with his spiritual camp advisor and TCC, ALL the black ministers defending Wrights so-called preaching of hate simply tells ALL Americans they support his feelings of anti-America and white hatred that the church endoreses. Why else would a parent continue to raise his young daughters in that atmosphere if he didn't have the same beliefs! No one says Obama cant attend the church for 20 years, or raise his daughters to be racist like his wife, what we ARE SAYING is that HE CANNOT REPRESENT ALL OF AMERCIA AS U.S. PRESIDENT! Rev Wright was and most likely still is a paid advisor on Obamas campaign??? Obama and David Axelrod insisted that Obama be the black candidate early in SC when they tried to spin it on Bill Clinton, it worked for the biased tabloid media like CNN cronies, since then, we ALL have come to realize Obama has problems with the truth and we learned this week for sure where his faith and true beliefs are, its obvious THERES ABSOLUTLY NO CHANGE WITH OBAMA, HE WILL DRAG U.S. BACK TO THE 60'S RACIAL DIVIDE at a time our country needs to unite. He cannot do that, no matter how many black news casts tell you he can.

OBAMA STANDS BEHIND SPIRITAL ADVISOR WRIGHT!
"Wright is like an uncle you love and respect" As imperfect as he may be, he has been family to me for so many years, I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community, said Obama. The man who believes and preaches the U.S. government formulated the HIV AIDS virus to commit genocide against blacks also preaches "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye on 9/11. This is the same man Obama had as advisor on his Presidential staff until this week. Rather than break ties with his demagogic, anti-American pastor, Obama used a speech on the non-back race to excuse his behavior and sweep the controversy under the rug. Passing the buck. Obama supposedly condemning Wright's shocking verbal assaults against the U.S and White Americans, but April last year; Obama was the first and quickest to demand Imus' ouster for making a racially insensitive remarks. His opinions and issues change with the weather, he is too UNSTABLE and proven he cannot make a decision or stay with one. Next we have ALL corrupt campaign financers, business and personal friends as indicted Rezko, former Dallas Mayor Hill, Rep. Rick Renzi and Mr. Auchi, leading supplier of arms to Saddam's regime convicted for corruption in France, the same British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions and millions of dollars to Obama all coming out of the woodwork. ALL this from the half black ex-Muslim who touts change and claims to be a uniter of all people? Proof he is just another in-experienced Washington politician that the media has like CNN has given a free pass at the great risk of our great country! There will soon be allot more video of Rev Wright and Obama coming, all this has proven without doubt if he is the nominee the democrat voters he cannot win the general election, just the black vote will not do it. Its time for Obama to leave this race and take his not so proud of America racist wife, spiritual advisor and anti white church with him..

Barack Obama: What You REALLY Need To Know Before You Vote!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe0frz7_xrk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEMZHQsQJ6Y

Posted by: dyck21005 | March 26, 2008 7:41 AM

Hillary Clinton's former pastor:

"The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times," Snyder wrote. "He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/pastor-of-clintons-forme_n_93418.html

Posted by: dutchess2 | March 26, 2008 7:37 AM

Hillary has her own religion problems:

Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's "most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family's publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

Posted by: dutchess2 | March 26, 2008 7:20 AM

Something like 30 million people have voted in the Democratic primary already. Yet the difference between these two candidates is only about 700k.

13,355,239
12,637,963

Almost as many people have voted for Hillary Clinton as have voted for Barack Obama. She enjoys support around the country that is very VERY close to the amount of support he enjoys. But she has been the subject of relentless ridicule in the press and the left-wing blogosphere. Humiliating op-ed commentaries and a general scorn for the Clinton years and Clintonian tactics and dishonesty and duplicity and all the rest.

But instead of standing up and trying to defend this former first lady and an icon of the Democratic party, the Obama campaign has contributed to the denigration of her and of the Clinton legacy. Nothing new there, I've been saying that for months.

But what I'm saying now is look at that 12,637,963 people who have voted for Clinton. They obviously believe in her over him. When you denigrate her or stand by quietly savoring her being denigrated and humiliated by the press in an election this close and running against a former two term first lady, you are committing party sepuku. You're ignoring that support and you're siding with the enemies of your friends.

Hillary is no fringe candidate. Statistically speaking you're pretty much talking about HALF of your party being against you. Instead of being careful about that and being POLITICALLY responsible and respectful of that base support for the wife of a two term president, the Obama campaign has pulled out every stop to destroy the Clintons' legacy in America.

When the postmortems are done on this election cycle, the recklessness with which Obama, a newcomer on the national political scene, trashed, and participated in the trashing by outsiders, of two icons of the Democratic party, and by extension the massive loyal support the Clintons still enjoy among Democrats in this country... I predict some enterprising political writer will cash in on the thesis I've described.

Posted by: jammerbirdi | March 26, 2008 7:15 AM

Of course- that's why she and Bill are still looking for a church to join- one that only believes in 8 of the 10 Commandments - rejecting "Thou shall not commit adultery " and Thou shal not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

Posted by: chuckruch | March 26, 2008 7:07 AM

Of course- that's why she and Bill are still looking for a church to join- one that only believes in 8 of the 10 Commandments - rejecting "Thou shall not commit adultery " and Thou shal not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

Posted by: chuckruch | March 26, 20