The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

i'm a strait "A" college student goin' to onward in me studies as a proctologist doctor and I find it hard, very hard to cram things up my anal cavity without the smoooooth assistance of a top quality brand anal lubricant such as KY

"cocka focka chocka snoooz dope doggy dog for yaz havin sed dis champ crozin dope da smoke you can haz it in yo grasp fo da takin' shoot
daddy dog u cant touch this cracka crack sella u cant taste this apple jacks hlolms"

So if Obama's "Mr. Xerox" what about Hillary in all the early debates?

"I agree with Senator Obama..."
"I agree with Senator Obama..."
"I agree with Senator Obama..." etc.

The fact is there are common-sense solutions (common to economic advisers at least) our current administration is ignoring. Look at the six key differences & decide side you prefer.

My question is which of them can be trusted not to give in to special interests?

Which of them can be trusted not to try to sell us on a lemon of a trade agreement like NAFTA?

Definitely our current economic plan is not working and the only true solution is to change the way we do business. The Clinton's NAFTA plan was the start. I would not want them to craft another economic plan because they were very proud of NAFTA and it has hurt people like us in Indiana.

I believe in change, hope and OBAMA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9ubMQX7WE

Once again, fellow Americans and middle class workers, may you listen to this man and take courage to overwhelmingly vote for him without even looking at his race at all. This man Obama is not only American called and manufactured by God for America at this late hour of America's sliding downfall, God is about to use him to actually stabilize the world and bring some fresh air that we so long for. may we listen and not be fooled!!!! When a measure is directed to help the whole, the whole grows to the benefit of every part of the whole. Please meditate on this previous statement. OK, let me repeat it--"When a measure is directed to help the whole, the whole grows to the benefit of every part of the whole." Every middle class or lower-educated worker should know that this man is their best friend!!! I pray that Obama will take the time on the campaign trails to explain to these workers how they will benefit!!! In fact, these low and middle income workers are the a huge beneficiaries of Obama economics as the nation holistically grows strong economically, socially, and politically. Some politicians might say specific things to appease specific groups, but if what has been said cannot add to promoting the whole, that politician is either short-sighted, self-serving, or even a traitor. Again, I do not agree with one or two things Mr. Obama may stand for (e.g. abortion and gay rights), but I must not let this prevent me from voting for this man as the next President of the United States of America. We better wake up America. This man will make either the best or one of the top 5 best Presidents this country has ever produced!!!

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and all good-thinking democrats need to stop this primary campaign and vote for this Mr. Obama. All America's middle class and workers better run to Obama's camp and make this man President for our sake's. This is serious. Dear fellow white folks--we better not be fooled. God will use this man to help us and America.
You may decide to let yourself be deceived by the Pastor issue or not, but we better not make a dangerous mistake this time. I may not agree with one or two things Mr. Obama stands for, but God seems to be leaning on using this man to help America at such a time as this--a time of serious turmoil in America's economy, political system, and international relations/cooperation. One of the worst mistakes America can make in all of America's history is to miss electing Obama President at this CRITICAL PERIOD of America. This man is not black, he's not white, he's not green or yellow or whatever. HE IS A GODLY AND HUMBLY SENSITIVE AMERICAN whom God will work with to bless America again. Don't be surprise that the fuel prices at the pump will soar DOWN to unbelievable price per gallon again, and OPEC will have little or nothing to do with it, and Obama himself may not have anything to do with it except that he is occupying the office. God is God when He gets the right person in place. Hillary is not the one now. Obama has to also think doubly twice before choosing Hillary as VP. She might be a source of problems!!! God is setting up America to be healed through this man. I continue to see it this way.
Ohio and hundreds of thousands of voters in Texas have been duped into voting for Mrs. Clinton. Mrs. Clinton duped them with the lies and innuendos on NAFTA and the 3:00 a.m. ad. But see-God exposed Clinton on NAFTA lies against Obama. She definitely worked to institute NAFTA and the
Canadian government also stated that someone from her campaign contacted Canada's leadership on her non-seriousness of her campaign rhetoric on Ohio NAFTA campaign. Well she gained the votes and won. I strongly call on Ohio and Texas voters to chastise Clinton and to demand their votes back!!! This exposure on NAFTA will let you know about what she means when she talks about the 3:00 a.m. phone call. Hillary will not answer that call. If she does, she won't know what to do or she will most probably make the wrong decision, trying to do things just by herself without consultation or she will be worrying and bugged down with "guilts" about what she has done to people in negative campaigning. Obama will make very good decisions, and he will make sure to get together with the right people to help him explore necessary alternatives and contingencies.
Wake up America and stop being maneuvered by people like Hillary. As someone wrote in the internet concerning Hillary's stunt on NAFTA, "When people talk about Hillary's experience, it is this type of stunt they are referring to...i.e., political experience. She's good at the Dark Arts, but that's about it as far as her experience goes."
Mr. Barack Obama is actually stronger in national security, economy, healthcare, and some of the other issues than either Hillary or McCain. America is at a stage in her life that she needs overhaul. The agent of that overhaul is Obama for such a time as this. His middle name does not matter and there is nothing wrong with it. He did not give himself the name. He loves everyone, including Israel. In fact, he might be the strongest supporter and defender of Israel ever. What people do not know is that Obama attends one of the strictest Christian denominations that commit very seriously to serving Jesus Christ. Church of Christ is STRICT! A weak Christian cannot attend such a denomination. It is seriously Pentecostal. The former Pastor certainly got carried away as many Ministers do and made some regretful comments. But that doesn't mean that man does not love America. The ex-marine just got carried away. It is also becoming very clear that Hillary can do or say anything to win while Obama, on the other hand, being a strong Christian, simply does not want to attack Hillary negatively, although he and everyone else knows how to do it. Right now, Hillary is striving to mess up the chances of the democratic party in the general election and to stop this important move toward truly refreshing and resurrecting prosperous America again. Somebody needs to help and stop the mess. I love the Clintons, but what they are doing now is not in the nation's interest. It might even be termed unpatriotic within some reason.
NOW Catch this: America cannot be resurrected into vitality and prosperity until significant number of her citizens become energized by the inspiration, wakening, and motivating spirit that God has embedded in Obama for the benefit of America AT THIS TIME. When people are aroused and awake again, then they can work hard and participate together toward believing and making everything work toward strengthening the economy, family, political system, national security, and building healthy and trusting relationships within America and between America and the rest of the world. That's NATIONAL SECURITY! THAT'S ECONOMIC STRENGTH! THAT'S PEOPLE TRUSTING AND BELIEVING IN AMERICA AGAIN! I am a Professor of Business Administration and Strategic Management for a long time. Obama is what America needs at this time. Again, I may not agree with one or two of his stands, but cost-benefit analysis clearly places him far on the top right now and for America. World leaders will actually respect him much more than others due to his humble spirit but also quiet inner strength! In fact, terrorists will think much-more than twice before they try to attack any American interests with Obama as President. They already have it in their heads that this man cannot play with them. I presume that Obama may be more humble than Reagan, but he has a tough demeanor similar to Reagan that outside world will fear and respect!
He will humble himself to negotiate with anyone and at any level, but those opponents will know (for sure) that they are not dealing with a push-over or someone they can ride even for a second. He will not make many mistakes and he relatively will not waste resources as many American Presidents have done over the years in dealing with foreign governments. He will appropriate resources wisely and monitor their use and who uses them, especially in relation to foreign aid and foreign wars. Many nations trick the United States into sending the dollars; but the dollars have usually been used to accomplish very little. Most dollars are wasted in highly corrupt foreign leaders who claim to be assisting their nations. Such leaders will find it difficult to try to play Obama. The following ad will fit the Mr. Obama:

"..... Shouldn't the President be the one, the only one that is capable of uniting people and solve problems without letting any problem turn into crises? The inspiration, my ability to relate to people instead of using intimidation or fight-posture, and my ability to manage or analyze contingencies and draw necessary conclusions and judgments define domestic and national security for America. Such qualification leads to getting problems solved without heading into crises that will bruise and drain America and wound our economy and every other thing! That's REAL security! That's the REAL experience you need! That's Barack Obama! We don't have to use force when we don't have to use force! If experience leads to consistently bad judgments, then what is that experience? You be the judge! How can someone who does not mind tricking Ohio into voting for her with lies on NAFTA be your President? How can Hillary Clinton be the President of this great nation if her experience is on flip-flops, innuendos, and accusing Obama wrongly for what she herself is doing? She is both Ms and Mrs. Hood Wink Wink and double-talk! Make Hillary pay for Ohio and Texas! Run away from HILLARY! Leave her alone! She is TOO DESPERATE to be the President of this United States of America. Her mind won't be steady at 3:00 a.m., for she will be worrying about all the negative campaigns. I will make the right judgment at 3:00 a.m., all a.ms., and all p.ms. given the circumstances of the call! People's lives are at stake; therefore, no one can jump into quick and un-chewed decision without consulting the Presidential cabinet or even the congress or even the American people. Run away from misjudgment. [EVEN the '3 a.m. Ad' Girl Wants Obama to Answer Call. Girl featured in Hillary Clinton's ad actually supports Obama. ABC News - Sun Mar 9, 12:35 PM ET] Make me your President and let us deliver Change We Can Believe In. YES WE CAN!"

Dear America, let us open our eyes and see how God is fighting for this man, Mr. Obama, who is a fairly serious Christian running to become our President. The cheep and deceiving Hillary's campaign didn't know that they were using a girl in a campaign who is actually campaigning for Obama right now. That's how God fights for people who are humble and means well like Obama. That's how God will fight for America when the right person becomes her Commander In Chief. Just read the ABC News excerpt:

---["They were parodying this ad, kind of poking fun at it," Knowles said. "My brother was like, 'Is that Casey?' And we just erupted. Sure enough, it's me." The file footage was originally shot for a railroad company advertisement. The Clinton campaign bought it from Getty Images. Knowles, a senior at Bonney Lake High School who turns 18 next month, has been campaigning for Obama. She attended his rally at Seattle's KeyArena on Feb. 8. Her mother, Pam, told The News Tribune of Tacoma that Casey cried and trembled after shaking the candidate's hand. The next day, she was a Democratic precinct captain for the state's caucuses. If she plays her cards right, she could go to the national convention. Not to mention that she could be in another ad. After her identity became known, Obama's campaign contacted her. "I mentioned that we should make a counter ad, me and Obama, against Hillary," she said. "They thought that was really funny. They actually might take me up on it."

Now you make the judgment. This is Obama's time for America. Vote for Obama to vote for America'a security, peace, economic prosperity, and political prosperity again!!!!!!!!!! Don't let any politician dupe your vote.
Dear fellow Americans and all white people: please do not make this mistake and then keep crying years later. I am independent and this is the first time I will be voting a democrat for President. Bad leadership takes away jobs and stifles cities and states. Let us wisely vote for this man Barack Obama. God will use him to resurrect and bless America in-deed through the empowering of middle class, etc. Read the following response by an Indian lady or gentleman from Canada:

"I am an Indian, living in Canada and I am fascinated by this election as an outsider I would like to make the following comments to my friends in America. This is indeed a once in a lifetime opportunity for the US middle class and it looks like they will miss it! Most economist say that the Indian and Chinese economies will equal or surpass the US by 2050 (only 40 years away). I never believed this considering the vast corruption and lack of infrastructure in those countries. But watching how this election has progressed I can see it happening and it is truly fascinating to see a nation capable of making a change in destiny choose a wrong path. The choices are John McCain - a maverick and war hero - that wants the war to continue (a war that US can not win - take a look at Kashmir and the Indian experience) Hillary and her divisive politics - which would lead US back to the 90s wherein were sown most of the seeds of the current economic downturn. NAFTA led to out sourcing of manufacturing to China/ Mexico and service jobs to India. and finally Obama - an inexperienced politician wanting to bring about change and inspiration. His biggest supporters are Intellectuals and educated and the youth however the people who need the change are not them...the people who need change are middle class (it is their wealth that is being shipped to India and China)
The middle class is being exploited by race and non issues by entrenched Washington interests (John and Hillary funders) and they are being led to candidates that will not help them. But here is the crux...the middle class will get less affluent - because of job migration and they won't have money for education the only way out. This is a cycle seen in most countries on the downturn. The 35-40 year old middle class man who needs change the most will not choose it and his grand child will suffer because all those jobs are moving elsewhere. 40 years from now - US can look back and lament this opportunity for a change (flawed as it may be!)
Everyone outside of US will tell Americans - Vote Obama for injection of new blood - But the US middle class just does not get it. It is sad to see a Great Nation take a collective step to its future downfall! Fascinating!! -- Posted by H Sudan (blog March 21, 2008, 1:17 p.m., NEW YORK TIMES, The Caucus, "Three New Obama Ads In Pennsylvania." By Kathrine Seelye).

I am a Strategic Management and International Business and marketing Professor for over 16 years. What this Indian writer stated is MOSTLY clear and true!!! Don't blame anybody but yourself if you fail to vote Obama. FORGET his race, and vote for America's future, your children's future, and strengthening and stabilizing America again! Let us leave racism alone and let God reign for a change. All working people, especially all the white people that work their hearts out and tend to be deceived by divisive politics--we better listen!!! Read:

L.A. Times Endorses Obama, McCain By ARIEL ALEXOVICH The Los Angeles Times, the largest newspaper from the Super Tuesday state with the most delegates, has just endorsed Barack Obama in the Democratic race this week. Mr. Obama, a senator from Illinois, holds most of the same positions as the paper's editorial board -- namely, being anti-war and for health care reform -- combined with a "sense of aspiration." The paper urged its readers to capitalize on this "historic moment" and vote for Mr. Obama in part because he opposed the Iraq War from the start. Yes, Hillary Rodham Clinton has been in the Senate longer, it said, but "experience has value only if it is accompanied by courage and leads to judgment." Furthermore, the editorial had harsh words to say about the Bill Clinton years: Clinton's return to the White House that she occupied for eight years as first lady would resurrect some of the triumph and argument of that era. Yes, Bill Clinton's presidency was a period of growth and opportunity, and Democrats are justly nostalgic for it. But it also was a time of withering political fire, as the former president's recent comments on the campaign trail reminded the nation. Hillary Clinton's election also would drag into a third decade the post-Reagan political duel between two families, the Bushes and the Clintons. Obama is correct: It is time to turn the page. No public relations campaign could do more than Obama's mere presence in the White House to defuse anti-American passion around the world, nor could any political experience surpass Obama's life story in preparing a president to understand the American character."

To all Caucasians: I humbly ask you to vote for this man Obama. Vote for him with all enthusiasm. There is something in it. God is going to use him to help us--The United States of America, especially in building back our economy and restoring America's honor across the globe. If we fail this time, it will be a big failure. Somebody needs to tell Hillary and her husband to really throw away their own personal ambition and selfishness away and place this country ahead. We better listen. This is not a question of race. This is about saving and reinvigorating the life and blood of America!!! This is a hard letter for me to write, but I have to do it just to clear my conscience. I have done my job. I have informed you. You make your decision.
But because some of you don't hear quickly, I plead again: Pennsylvania and all states--all of you: Please let us vote overwhelmingly for this Mr. Obama for a total overhaul of America (our nation) toward resurrected and sustained economic, moral, political, and international relations prosperity. DON'T EVER LET RACE CAUSE YOU TO COMMIT SUICIDE WITH YOUR VOTE. IF YOU DO, DON'T BLAME ANYONE IN THE FUTURE. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW! Don't forget the words of a foreigner (an Indian living in Canada) to us"...The middle class is being exploited by race and non issues by entrenched Washington interests (John and Hillary funders) and they are being led to candidates that will not help them. But here is the crux...the middle class will get less affluent - because of job migration and they won't have money for education the only way out. This is a cycle seen in most countries on the downturn. The 35-40 year old middle class man who needs change the most will not choose it and his grand child will suffer because all those jobs are moving elsewhere. 40 years from now - US can look back and lament this opportunity for a change. Everyone outside of US will tell Americans - Vote Obama for injection of new blood - But the US middle class just does not get it. It is sad to see a Great Nation take a collective step to its future downfall! Fascinating!!" -- Posted by H Sudan (blog March 21, 2008, 1:17 p.m., NEW YORK TIMES, The Caucus, "Three New Obama Ads In Pennsylvania." By Kathrine Seelye). WE BETTER NOT BE fooled this time! ---- With all love for our great nation, Dr. FSAOS.

I will love for him to pick Al Gore as his VP.

There has only been TWO Dem presidents in the past 30+ years (and one of them got IMPEACHED)! If a Dem is not in the White House for the next 4 years, it won't be an earth-shattering event. Clinton cannot beat McCain. Period. Obama gives the Dems a decent shot, win or lose. Even if he doesn't win, he'll end up richer than Gore, while the ignorant race-baiters lose their homes and jobs under Bush/McCain. IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID. Grow up.

He steals everything from Hillary, he can't come up with anything on his own. If Obama wins the primary them I am voting for McCain at least I know who he is.

Just like SNL Hillary answers the question and Obama agreees. He has no ideas of his own. Even his speeched belong to other people!!!

How can the Bushies claim that the Iraq war spending doesn't really have that much impact on the economy. Of course it does and will continue for many years ahead. Are they counting the tens of thousands of disabled veterans from Afghanistan and Iraq? That's a big chunk of medical care, therapy, and for those too disabled to ever work again...that's a lifetime of payments. Unless they pull the same old bait and switch with our veterans.

heh, thought that was obvious, Haliburton, et al of course. or, more importantly very very rich people, fear induced war is a very clever way to implement reverse robinhooding, thats why you find even the most out of control tax and spend liberals being very frugal on defense, it takes money from the working masses and gives it to defense contractors and in this case, takes mostly the poorest families children to war to be put in harms way, under the guise of opportunity. that way they can take not just mom and dads money to give to rich, they can kill their son in the process.

regardless of how this ends, let us not forget these people and their families, even if it was bush's fault and it was, they paid dearly in service to us.

Obama's speech is nothing but Clinton redux.

How does Obama's words jive with his actions?

As a representative of his district in Chicago Obama looked the other way as his buddy Rezko & other slumlords scammed the residents who lived in that squalor.

The Obamas, however, made out real good on some lucrative real estate deals.

Michelle & Barack must have a good laugh at night thinking that they're pulling the wool over the eyes of black folks not as intelligent as they are.

staffordworks
Obama's proposal is to increase the CAP for Social Security FICA payroll tax. The CAP is now at $97,500. Personally, I don't think it's fair for someone earning #30,000 to pay FICA on 100% of their earnings, while someone earning #300,000 only pays 100% FICA tax on the first 1/3 of their income. Anyway, I'm glad you are supporting Obama. I think he's the most in touch with real people and he doesn't demonize those who disagree with him. That's what we need.

The funny thing with all this brouhaha is that it has been said many times over that Hillary and Barack aren't much different on the issues. If they were "black and white" with respect to their views(no pun intended), this race would have been over. Hillary tries too hard to be centrist while her actions speak "more Republican" like the 3am ad. Truth be told, Hillary is polarising and vitriolic with the general public. As soon as the press says something she doesn't like, she harps on it. The Rev. Wright flap proved a much needed distraction. But she's under attack for the Bosnia trip and she tries to "resurrect" the Wright issue!!! Talk about Karl Rove strategy. That is old news and you lied about the trip not once BUT TWICE for all to see. I don't see her winning the nomination regards of her slim hopes keep getting slimmer. At least Obama tries to be his own man on the issues and doesn't have to 'shore up' his credentials on foreign policy. This country needs a change from the status quo. I thought Obama was a crackpot till I heard him speak. and then saw him demonstrate leadership ability with his campaign. Then it was decided. If you have a person fritter away $130million(according to some estimates), you have no right to be running for president. How is it that Obama has $30 million squirelled away and she is still in the red? Are we trusting our economy with a neophyte who claims to be experienced? So much for that with the Bosnia flap. We all know that Hillary has lost the nomination. The question is how long she would let herself burn.

kopymatt --

Sorry. That excuse doesn't cut it.

I'm a hard-core Democrat.

I've got great contacts on the inside of both parties.

Obama blocked all attempts at a revote in both Florida and Michigan.

If he's the nominee, Republicans will CRUSH him.

He's grabbed credit for things other people did his whole life.

He says one thing to one group and the opposite to another.

People don't like to be played for fools.

He's not going to be elected to anyhing.

His chickens are coming home to roost.

Good speech. Some similarities to Clinton, but mostly different. In particular, Clinton suggests freezing interest rates and Obama suggest mechanisms to work out foreclosures so that people can keep their homes. Clinton's idea of arbitrarily freezing interest rates reminds me of Nixon freezing wages and prices. That turned out to be one of the worst economic decisions in modern times. However, you do have to give Clinton some respect for at least trying, unlike McCain whose ideas are: "um, um , well my friends let's do nothing".

Obama/Bloomberg '08
Obama/Richardson '12

I can't make up my mind so I gave them each a chance.

dyend: "Oh, I get it.

"Lincoln gave the speech at Cooper Union which introduced him to the nation.

"Obama announced his candidacy in Springfield where Lincoln was from.

"The night he was assassinated Lincoln attended Ford's Theatre.

"President Gerald Rudolph Ford said, 'I'm a Ford, not a Lincoln.'

"Following that logic, does that make Obama a Mercury? Highly volatile, rising rapidly followed by a plunging decline."

dyend,

I don't know about what that makes Obama, but at least we all know that Hillary was never a Hummer, eh?

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. I really, really couldn't!)

Staffordworks:

That is a great testimony. I await the answer to your question as to WHOM received a trillion dollars. That just tickled me.

Any takes on that question anyone???

We know that HIllary Clinton doesn't bother to read bills she signs --any comments she makes about Obama's speeches, his ideas, the way the election is going, her own chances of winning, her alleged "experience," are based on delusional thinking, certainly not on the literacy required to read anything with attention but the worn-out tapes in her own head.

We know that HIllary Clinton doesn't bother to read bills she signs --any comments she makes about Obama's speeches, his ideas, the way the election is going, her own chances of winning, her alleged "experience," are based on delusional thinking, certainly not on the literacy required to read anything with attention but the worn-out tapes in her own head.

We know that HIllary Clinton doesn't bother to read bills she signs --any comments she makes about Obama's speeches, his ideas, the way the election is going, her own chances of winning, her alleged "experience," are based on delusional thinking, certainly not on the literacy required to read anything with attention but the worn-out tapes in her own head.

We know that HIllary Clinton doesn't bother to read bills she signs --any comments she makes about Obama's speeches, his ideas, the way the election is going, her own chances of winning, her alleged "experience," are based on delusional thinking, certainly not on the literacy required to read anything with attention but the worn-out tapes in her own head.

We know that HIllary Clinton doesn't bother to read bills she signs --any comments she makes about Obama's speeches, his ideas, the way the election is going, her own chances of winning, her alleged "experience," are based on delusional thinking, certainly not on the literacy required to read anything with attention but the worn-out tapes in her own head.

We know that HIllary Clinton doesn't bother to read bills she signs --any comments she makes about Obama's speeches, his ideas, the way the election is going, her own chances of winning, her alleged "experience," are based on delusional thinking, certainly not on the literacy required to read anything with attention but the worn-out tapes in her own head.

Here's a plan: Stop wasting money on the war period because that sure isn't going to help our economy a bit. Period. That's definitely where we can start. Absolutely.

Its easy to talk, its easy to say in the light of day that you dont care if mccain is old, hillary is a woman, barack is black, its easy to say that you support the right and the just and you are against the war but for the troops etc... but we all know that people only get really honest when they open their wallet.

Obama's money comes from $100 and less donations from regular people.

But the much larger put your money where your mouth is? I dont make less than $75k/yr not just my taxes but my social security taxes are going to go up if Obama is elected. I have 3 kids to feed, I have never been able to buy a house (only recently make more than 75) and I know that some of the extra tax is going to help someone who is lucky enough to own a home, stay in it, even though I cant buy one yet.

So for me to caucus, be a delegate, rally and vote for Obama, should say something. I am as white bread all american as you can imagine, thought of myself as a republican during the Grahm-Rudman balanced budget amendment days but grew up to be anti-partisan so I could just vote for the smart people instead of whoever was the flavor of the moment.

I get paid, very well, to think. so I humbly submit that if I wholeheartedly support this guy, there just might be something to him, something really big, I am betting with my own money that the long term payoff for me, my kids, my grandkids is going to be worth a whole lot more than the extra taxes are going to cost me. I wont get a dime of that directly, I make too much to get any entitlement from the government.

if you are angry, take a breath, slow down, follow the money, find out where people got their money, find out where decent people are putting their money, like the wall street comment, the economy never lies, can we afford this war? W. can say "mission accomplished-ish" all he wants, the economy says, uh, no, that'd be a no bob, we cant.

where'd that money go? I dont have it, you dont have it, the Iraqi people dont have it, our troops sure as heck dont have it, who does? who got paid one trillion dollars? who?

where do hillary and mccain get their money?

where does your fat cat ceo put his?

where does your hard working neighboor send his?

follow the benjamins.

Oh great...The WP does a story on a candidate's economic plan, and the comments sections dissolves into a school-yard fight over whose candidates is best, with appropriate taunts and jeers thrown in.
With regard to the economic story, I am greatly discouraged that none of the candidates seem to get it: This entire economic mess has debt as its root cause. Be it government debt, consumer debt, or Wall Street debt (toxic securities purchased on a 32-1 ratio of secured debt), we as a nation have simply run out of credit. The resulting liquidity freeze is making matters worse by requiring these debtors to pay up, thus precipatating further economic decline. And what are our candidates and policy makers saying is the cure: Why just throw more borrowed money at it, of course. The bloating of the Federal debt, cushioning of mortgage foreclosures, and the tax-payer funded bailout of an investment bank are not economic remedies, they're political fixes that have little to offer to those of us who, come April 15, will be paying real money for them.

SVreader:

Obama denying voters wishes in Florida or Michigan?

Either you are a Repuglican hack or you just don't know what you are talking about.

Simple as this - Dean said to Florida and Michigan that the train track was out up head six freaking months ago. Were you not paying attention, sir? Florida and Michigan decided to play chicken and steamed on. Now all of a sudden it is Obama's or Dean's fault there is a train wreck when rules were agreed upon months ago? It was decided by Edwards, Clinton and Obama and the entire party that there would not be any campaigning in FL and MI and that their names wouldn't be on the ballot.

Florida put their names on the ballot anyway. The state of Florida did not respect the rules of the Demcratic Party and could nailed by a law suit for disenfranchising the rights and rules of the party. Too bad the law suit would solve nothing.

In Michigan, Hillary "Do anything to get elected" Clinton let them put her name on the ballot. Richardson, Edwards and Obama didn't have their names on the ballot because they respected their own promises to obey rules.

Half of your rant doesn't have one iota of substance. You could use HTML to set up some links to lead us to some facts that support your claims at places such as your favorite website in support of your slimy slippery slope empty arguments.

And another thing. There is a world of difference between Bush and Obama. Read Obama's books. Examine and learn about his character, worth ethic and difficult life. If you knew anything you'd know that Obama is the exact opposite of Bush.

Bush was born into privilege and power. He was the ignorant black sheep of the family. He blew up frogs with firecrackers as a child. (If that anecdote doesn't describe Bush I don't know what does.) Didn't have to work to get into elite schools. Didn't work once in those elite schools. Didn't work all his life and ran businesses into the ground. Bush became President and has said the constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper. Bush views life as a joke because his life has been a joke.

Obama was born into a biracial family. He was raised by his mother, a single mother and a brilliant anthropologist. He worked hard and received a scholarship into a prep school in Hawaii. He worked hard and ended up in Columbia. He did social work. Went to Harvard and worked hard there and was the editor at the Harvard law review. Then continued public service working for voters rights. Obama respects constitutional law and has in fact taught constitutional law at the U of Chicago back when he was serving in the Illinois state senate. Obama works hard and views life as a blessing because it has been a blessing.

Why am I sitting down to explain any of this to you. If you are so ignorant this far into the election season you aren't going to take the time to educate yourself now up until November. You'll just sit around continuing to rely on FAUX news to get your news unfettered by that strange thing called logic.

If you have an education I'd demand a refund.

Arron -
Pocatello, Idaho

Our advice to Obama is: You thought that Replublicans will empty dumptrucks on opponent in coming fall election campaign. Well! All the worst elements in America could not wait that long and have already started practising their despicable business right away. We should not have been surprised. Please do what your conscience tells you to do and ignore any label they may try to stick on you with contempt.

Dinkar & Vimala Koppikar

Our advice to Obama is: You thought that Replublicans will empty dumptrucks on opponent in coming fall election campaign. Well! All the worst elements in America could not wait that long and have already started practising their despicable business right away. We should not have been surprised. Please do what your conscience tells you to do and ignore any label they may try to stick on you with contempt.

Dinkar & Vimala Koppikar

I offer this analogy as to why I prefer Obama over Hillary for president.

Consider the driver and crew chief of a NASCAR team. The crew chief (Hillary in this analogy) may have thorough knowledge of how the car operates and what adjustments should be made depending on conditions. Hillary is a master political mechanic. But should she be driving the car? Hillary belongs in the legislative branch.

The driver (Obama in this analogy) needs to be able to see where he is, where he has been, and where he is going, and demonstrate the ability to steer around obstacles. In his speeches, Obama has demonstrated, through historical perspective, where we are and how we got here. He further recognizes that to steer a successfull course for the country's future, the existing partisan divides must be bridged. The manner in which he has run his campaign demonstrates an ability to react to obstacles. Obama is much better suited to be the driver.

Obama for President.

I went to the New York Times link above and read Obama's speech. Good speech, even without his eloquent delivery, the text is evidence that either the Senator or somebody on his staff has a keen analytical mind.

How come The POST has nothing on MAYA ANGELOU SUPPORTING CLINTON?????

http://www.urbanacitizen.com/main.asp?SectionID=21&SubSectionID=126&ArticleID=147421

Obama=Hardcore Socialism=Pinko Communism

joivtman --

And more

From DD --

Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama's Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements

Once again, the Obama campaign is getting caught saying one thing while doing another. They are personally attacking Hillary even though Sen. Obama has been found mispeaking and embellishing facts about himself more than ten times in recent months. Senator Obama's campaign is based on words -not a record of deeds - and if those words aren't backed up by facts, there's not much else left.

"Senator Obama has called himself a constitutional professor, claimed credit for passing legislation that never left committee, and apparently inflated his role as a community organizer among other issues. When it comes to his record, just words won't do. Senator Obama will have to use facts as well," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

Sen. Obama consistently and falsely claims that he was a law professor. The Sun-Times reported that, "Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama's primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter." In academia, there's a significant difference: professors have tenure while lecturers do not. [Hotline Blog, 4/9/07; Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04]

Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed. "Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was 'the only nuclear legislation that I've passed.' 'I just did that last year,' he said, to murmurs of approval. A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks. Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama's comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate." [New York Times, 2/2/08]

Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma. "Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: 'I meant the whole civil rights movement.'" [New York Times, 3/5/07]

LA Times: Fellow organizers say Sen. Obama took too much credit for his community organizing efforts. "As the 24-year-old mentor to public housing residents, Obama says he initiated and led efforts that thrust Altgeld's asbestos problem into the headlines, pushing city officials to call hearings and a reluctant housing authority to start a cleanup. But others tell the story much differently. They say Obama did not play the singular role in the asbestos episode that he portrays in the best-selling memoir 'Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.' Credit for pushing officials to deal with the cancer-causing substance, according to interviews and news accounts from that period, also goes to a well-known preexisting group at Altgeld Gardens and to a local newspaper called the Chicago Reporter. Obama does not mention either one in his book." [Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07]

Chicago Tribune: Obama's assertion that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing 'strains credulity.' "...Obama has been too self-exculpatory. His assertion in network TV interviews last week that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing strains credulity: Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004 -- more than a year before the adjacent home and property purchases by the Obamas and the Rezkos." [Chicago Tribune editorial, 1/27/08]

Obama was forced to revise his assertion that lobbyists 'won't work in my White House.' "White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was forced to revise a critical stump line of his on Saturday -- a flat declaration that lobbyists 'won't work in my White House' after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions... After being challenged on the accuracy of what he has been saying -- in contrast to his written pledge -- at a news conference Saturday in Waterloo, Obama immediately softened what had been his hard line in his next stump speech." [Chicago Sun-Times, 12/16/07]

FactCheck.org: 'Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama's health plan.' "Obama's ad touting his health care plan quotes phrases from newspaper articles and an editorial, but makes them sound more laudatory and authoritative than they actually are. It attributes to The Washington Post a line saying Obama's plan would save families about $2,500. But the Post was citing the estimate of the Obama campaign and didn't analyze the purported savings independently. It claims that "experts" say Obama's plan is "the best." "Experts" turn out to be editorial writers at the Iowa City Press-Citizen - who, for all their talents, aren't actual experts in the field. It quotes yet another newspaper saying Obama's plan "guarantees coverage for all Americans," neglecting to mention that, as the article makes clear, it's only Clinton's and Edwards' plans that would require coverage for everyone, while Obama's would allow individuals to buy in if they wanted to." [FactCheck.org, 1/3/08]

Sen. Obama said 'I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage,' but Obama health care legislation merely set up a task force. "As a state senator, I brought Republicans and Democrats together to pass legislation insuring 20,000 more children. And 65,000 more adults received health care...And I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage." The State Journal-Register reported in 2004 that "The [Illinois State] Senate squeaked out a controversial bill along party lines Wednesday to create a task force to study health-care reform in Illinois. [...] In its original form, the bill required the state to offer universal health care by 2007. That put a 'cloud' over the legislation, said Sen. Dale Righter, R-Mattoon. Under the latest version, the 29-member task force would hold at least five public hearings next year." [Obama Health Care speech, 5/29/07; State Journal-Register, 5/20/04]

ABC News: 'Obama...seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he made' on ethics reform. "ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: During Monday's Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he has made on disclosure of "bundlers," those individuals who aggregate their influence with the candidate they support by collecting $2,300 checks from a wide network of wealthy friends and associates. When former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel alleged that Obama had 134 bundlers, Obama responded by telling Gravel that the reason he knows how many bundlers he has raising money for him is "because I helped push through a law this past session to disclose that." Earlier this year, Obama sponsored an amendment [sic] in the Senate requiring lobbyists to disclose the candidates for whom they bundle. Obama's amendment would not, however, require candidates to release the names of their bundlers. What's more, although Obama's amendment was agreed to in the Senate by unanimous consent, the measure never became law as Obama seemed to suggest. Gravel and the rest of the public know how many bundlers Obama has not because of a 'law' that the Illinois Democrat has 'pushed through' but because Obama voluntarily discloses that information." [ABC News, 7/23/07]

Obama drastically overstated Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance. "When Sen. Barack Obama exaggerated the death toll of the tornado in Greensburg, Kan, during his visit to Richmond yesterday, The Associated Press headline rapidly evolved from 'Obama visits former Confederate capital for fundraiser' to `Obama rips Bush on Iraq war at Richmond fundraiser' to 'Weary Obama criticizes Bush on Iraq, drastically overstates Kansas tornado death toll' to 'Obama drastically overstates Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance.' Drudge made it a banner, ensuring no reporter would miss it." [politico.com, 5/9/07]

joivtman --

And more.

Obama is all talk and no substance.

Read the article. Its about the fact that Obama is a total fraud, a product of the chicago politicial machine.

Its about him stealing credit for bills he never worked when he was in Chicago, just like he did in Washington.

Its about "Obama's Slums" and fact that Barry didn't care one bit about the people who elected him.

Its about the fact that Chicago Barry Obama is the biggest fraud that's been put over on the American public since Bush.

Its filled with facts about Obama from someone who has known him for years.

The title's cute. Obama isn't. He's a fraud.

http://news.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/

Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos is working marvelously!

As you socialists tear each other down, McCain smokes cigars and laughs. Mrs. McCain is already measuring for new drapes in the White House...LOL!

Any of you Dems see today's RASSMUSSEN tracking polls?

ENJOY-

Looking ahead to the General Election in November, John McCain continues to lead both potential Democratic opponents. McCain leads Barack Obama 51% to 41% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% (see recent daily results). McCain is now viewed favorably by 56% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 41%. Obama's reviews are 46% favorable and 52% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 44% favorable, 54% unfavorable (see recent daily results).

joitvman --

Have some more

Barry Obama calls Rev. Wright, "his close friend", "his brother", "his spritual advisor"

Here's some interesting information about Rev. Wrigtht.

Rev Wright Supports Hamas, which supports using children, including new-born babies, as "human bombs"

From Reuters --

Embattled Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has experienced one of the most awful weeks in American political history. As I said here, you know it's bad when revealing extensive ties to Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko isn't the big news of the week. Clearly, the Pastor J-Wright scandal has temporarily sucked the oxygen out of the presidential campaigns. As bas as that seems, this article in WND adds another chapter to the Pastor J-Wright scandal. This headline says it all:

Obama Church Published Hamas Terror Manifesto

It gets worse from there:

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

That it was reprinted in Pastor J-Wright's newsletter calls into question how deep his hatred of Israel runs. Let's remember that this isn't something from 10 years ago. That op-ed ran last July. It's that much more troubling considering the fact that Pastor Wright accompanied Louis Farrakhan on a trip to Libya where he met Col. Qhadhaffi.

I'll take Sen. Obama at his word when he says that Pastor Wright has been his mentor. That's troubling because Pastor Wright's thinking towards Israel is far outside mainstream evangelical Christian thinking. Let's set that aside temporarily for the sake of this discussion. Let's pretend that evangelical Christians didn't take a position on Israel. Instead, let's think about this from a State Department standpoint. It seems like Hamas has been on the State Department's list of known terrorists forever.

That brings me to this question: What impact has Pastor J-Wright's views on Israel had on Sen. Obama? Sen. Obama says that he hasn't talked politics with Pastor J-Wright but, prior to this week, he insisted that he hadn't heard any of Pastor J-Wright's inflammatory sermons, too.

Suffice it to say that this story eliminates the possibility of the Obama-J-Wright controversy going away anytime soon.

jovitman --

Before you send any more money to Obama, why don't you take a look at this --

Please Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from Channel 5, Chicago's most respected TV news program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8&feature=related

How do you explain away the fact that Barry Obama never followed up on the 11 slums that his friend Rezko was supposed to repair in Obama's district in Chicago, and continued to do nothing about the 40 slums that Rezko was supposed to repair or replace in Chicago, even after Obama joined the US Senate?

From the Chicago Sun Times:

For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.

It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.

But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....

The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''

Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....

Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.

Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

* Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

* Six buildings are currently boarded up.

* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

* At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

svreader: Any mainstream publication would be helpful. Why aren't these serious allegations you continue to make found in places like the Nation, Mother Jones, The Village Voice, or the Drudge Report?

I can't wait to see the Clinton's tax returns and examine all that money President Clinton received for his Presidential library and for the Marc Rich pardon. They are no saints my friend.

jovitman --

Which one?

What exactly is so new and different about Obama? His economic plan is straight out of the 70 liberal playbook: increase regulation and raise taxes. Nothing new about that failed strategy.

dyinglikeflies: So you perfectly comfortable with a Scalia, Thomas, Alito majority U.S. Supreme Court because that's what it will be if McCain is elected? I guess I don't know what it means to be a Democrat anymore?

asja --

I've posted more facts and detail than all the Obama supporters put together.

Obama supporters are in denial about their candidate.

The think he's a saint and that he's running "a different kind of campaign"

Open your eyes.

He's run the dirtiest campaign in years.

Look at the article about it in today's WP.

People are finding out who Barry Obama really is and they don't like what they see.

He's a slick, slimy, Chicago politician.

The only color he cares about is the green of money.

Obama constantly took credit for bills he wasn't even involved with, starting back in Chicago, and he showed he has absolutely no shame by grabbing the microphone and talking about getting up for 7am meetings about bills that he never even went to.

Obama lied about Rezko on national TV during the debates.

Obama lied about Rev. Wright.

Barry Obama has pulled the biggest "con-job" in history by using his "new kind of politics" pitch to stop the press from looking into his past.

Republicans won't be the least bit shy about doing what the press has failed to do so far.

If we Democrats nominate him, we're going to lose by a landslide.

He's a slick politician.

Just like Bush.

Now he's trying to prevent FL and MI voters from having their votes count.

Just like Bush did with Florida.

Its not going to work.

He's a credit-grabber and a slick fraud.

America's tired of him getting caught doing horrible things, like Rev Wright as his "spiritual advisor" and then preaching to us rather than taking responsibility.

He's done nothing and he is nothing.

You've been sold a bill of goods.

See if you still have the receipt.

If I were you, I'd demand a refund.

Scenario:

Obama/Bloomberg
vs
McCain/Lieberman

And Jewish person get into the Whitehouse

svreader: Where's the evidence of your allegation for the 10th time about Senator Obama? Doth protesteth too much with no evidence that I can find after checking a number of publications and media like C-SPAN and PBS.

I agree that Clinton will not be allowed to win. The leadership of the Democratic party is determined to stop this game in the seventh inning with Obama ahead. As for McCain representing my core values, he does not- but I find him more trustworthy than Obama, who had to my mind conveniently forgotten things when it seemed he could get away with doing so, and then slickly rationalized changing his M.O. when he could not. I am philosophically closer to Obama, but do not trust him, and, with the exception of scrappy here who has exhibited some class, I resent the strange and emphatic hatred shown by his followers towards anyone who disagrees with them.

The financial institutions that offered subprime mortgages, knew what they were doing long term. All institutions that offered this type of loan should be required to refinance the balances at todays rates. Why pay them to foreclose on homes then resale them at a profit? One sided for the big boys thanks to Bush. It is time to force this group of theves to toe the mark and help the American home owners.

The financial institutions that offered subprime mortgages, knew what they were doing long term. All institutions that offered this type of loan should be required to refinance the balances at todays rates. Why pay them to foreclose on homes then resale them at a profit? One sided for the big boys thanks to Bush. It is time to force this group of theves to toe the mark and help the American home owners.

dyinglikeflies,
no. when i'm not writing posts, I'm actually working on a PhD in financial engineering and mathematics at an Ivy League college.

do not confuse america's best (who are up there with the best in the world) with america's average (which is mediocre) - the proof is out there for all to see.
If America didn't have hard-working motivated immigrants coming in every year, it would have crumbled a long time ago.

johnsonc2 hss requested to the moderator to he or she block any post that doesn't offer praise to the holy Obama or that dares bring up anything negative about his holyness Pope Obama.

As an alternative, he would a limit of one criticism of Pope Obama per post.

Anti-Clinton posters and posts would, of course, be of unlimited duration, frequency and falsity.

Other Obama supporters have previously suggested anyone who does not praise him should be reported to the FBI or Secret Service.

Obama Supporters -- This is America, not East Germany.

We have just as much right to post as you do.

Barry Obama isn't a saint.

He's the slickest Chicago Politician in years.

This is a free country.

We will make sure the facts are known.

The truth will be the end of Chicago Barry Obama.

He ain't no saint.

dyinglikeflies: Thanks for the correction on deracinate. I should have checked the dictionary before I used the word as I thought in my haste, I was using it improperly.

So, as a Senator Clinton supporter and I presume a Democrat who cares about issues like what our Supreme Court and Federal judiciary will look like if we have a McCain Presidency, you would vote for McCain who would want to prove his conservative bona fides to the hard right by allowing him to possibly appoint 3 U.S. Supreme Court justices in the fashion of Scalia, Thomas and Alito? That's scary.

I have alot of ambivalence about Senator Clinton but the notion of a U.S. Supreme Court majority of Scalia, Thomas and Alito clones deters me from such ambivalence and I will absolutely vote for Senator Clinton if she is to prevail over Senator Obama.

I find it hard to fathom the thinking on both sides that they would vote for McCain when you consider the consequences of a hard right U.S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary and what that would mean to our civil rights, environmental, health, labor and safety laws, right to organize a union, petition our government, reproductive rights and so on.

So, you still want to vote for Senator McCain if Senator Obama is the nominee knowing the implications of such a vote?

Dying like flies,

I am sorry for the veil insult I hurled at you. You have a right to support anyone you wish even Mccain. I just hope he represents your core values not your dislike of Obama.

Scrappy

Dyinglikeflies,

Please start campaigning for Senator Mccain now as Hillary will not win. I am sorry to say...but she will not win...I know that there is a snowball's chance in hades that she might but it the world I occupy...not the one our current president lives in...but the one based in reality...she will not win. I am sorry. I think she is a brilliant politician but a poor leader based on her surrogates and some of her followers, her campaign, her speeches, and her misspeaks. Mccain will love to have you and I look forward to a spirited debate in the fall about the issues and not this personal juvenile (BTW you really are too old to be hurling insults at people) crap that infects the media and these blogs everyday.

Bill Clinton wanted a fight and I'm dead tired of people who are totally unable to be objective. Reading these posts for a month has got to me. No one analyzes anything, people are just coming out and saying insulting things and getting away with it. Obama's supporters can give as good as they're getting.

It's hard to stay positive when you try to reason with people who wont reason. Obama is not an empty suit. He's got his own ideas and as a Democrat, they will roughly the same as Clinton's positions on many things. svreader and thinker spend their whole time copy-pasting nonsense onto these forums instead of focusing on the issues of substantive difference.

you can only bait someone so long.

Please, lets lower the heat on this Donkey on Donkey action, and get some Donkey on Elephant action going. Democrats committing murder-suicide is nothing to be proud of and a Mccain presidency will hurt at least as much as the last 8 Bush years. Please, we can discuss policy, but please, both sides, turn down the noise.

-an Obama supporter who will vote Democrat in November

scrappyc20001- Absolutely. bill clinton should shut up. He's been the main problem with Hillary's campaign. Her campaign was fine when it was about her, but when it started being about him, well that's when her problems began. She's extremely bright but nobody can hear her through all the personality crap that was thrown off by his misguided attempt to make things up to her for the past by helping out. Darn shame.

Too bad the files of the pending SEC investigations of Enron and Worldcom were destroyed when WTC 7 spontaneously collapsed after not being hit by a plane on 9/11. Could have nipped that one in the bud.

Lady Macbeth Obama should just be quiet already. Her husband already is known to surround himself with loonies. She shouldn't make it so plain that his wife, who manages him, is one herself.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | March 27, 2008 03:55 PM

Okay as an Obama supporter I will enthusiastically say...Michelle Obama tap down the rhetoric...Now will you say the same thing to Bill Clinton?

The post by pedraza1 was written from the heart and I am glad we have guys like him who are fighting for us. But as for Obama...are you going to make him stand by his campaign promise to bring our troops home in 16 months and what will you say to him if he does not??? I doubt you will say it is okay!!!!!!!!!

Jovitman, most of the people I know who, like myself, prefer Clinton, are much more likely to vote for McCain than Obama in November if those are the choices. So your warning about the consequences of this ongoing "deracination" is misplaced. That having been said, thanks for using deracinate, although my understanding of the definition of that word was that it meant to uproot a people, not to insult them. Good try, though.

Does this mean the media's done pastorbating?

The level of sophomoric,vain, and petty comments by both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama supporters is so dispiriting. I am a Senator Obama supporter who each day sees a depressing truth. We are going to lose in November as we continue to deracinate each other. So this is the Dems, the big tent party? Pretty sad.

Why can't both sides acknowledge when one of their candidates makes a good and thoughtful speech as Senator Obama did,instead of reading such insipid, stupid comments like Senator Obama's economic plan is a Xerox copy of Senator Clinton's or Senator Obama never managed a budget. It's so petty and ridiculous it's painful to read.

Keep this up and we will be watching in January 2009, another Republican being sworn in as president. Isn't that depressing?

I wonder if there is a moderator reading these posts who can screen some of this chaff out. It would be nice is some of the regular people who provide negative background noise, JakeD, rat_the, svreader, and the ironically named "thinker" for example, could be limited to one gratuitous ad hominem attack on Obama per article.
If you want to say you think Obamas plan is a lot like Hillary's or something else, then give your examples and make your point. Otherwise, stop using up space on the comment thread so that others who are interested in the issues in the campaign can comment.

visit your nearest veterans hospital this weekend and spend time with young people who's futures have permanently changed because of a war based on a lie.

some are alive but will never start families or eat unaided in their lives again. if republicans want this war to continue, they should pay for it with a special tax hike.

Yes asja, we Americans are so amazingly ignorant. We, who still function as the world's largest economy by far, who provide more Nobel winners than any other nation, who have created more material wealth than any other nation in history for the benefit of all mankind, are just pre-evolutionary morons. We will be nothing until we are bather in the light of the Holy Obama and his blinding, blessed, all encompassing liberalism.

Tell me, when you are not posting on this site, are you making good money selling flowers and pamphlets at the airport?

Oh, I get it.

Lincoln gave the speech at Cooper Union which introduced him to the nation.

Obama announced his candidacy in Springfield where Lincoln was from.

The night he was assassinated Lincoln attended Ford's Theatre.

President Gerald Rudolph Ford said, "I'm a Ford, not a Lincoln."

Following that logic, does that make Obama a Mercury? Highly volatile, rising rapidly followed by a plunging decline.

Where does Obama, a man who Tony Rezko helped buy a mansion with money that almost certainly came from an Arab Muslim associated with Saddam Hussein's fuel-for-food program, get off lecturing America about home mortgage finance crises?

Maybe he should propose that we should have corruption figures under indictment help us buy our homes using money laundered from a fuel-for-food program while Iraqis starve?

That would lighten the burden on U.S. banks and the Fed.

Just what the country DOESN'T need: more spending. Also, Obama needs to take that idiot wife of his and put her in a refrigerator for awhile.

Let's watch these videos and wonder where our country gets its reputation for ignorance from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8SuCBHqXtQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

People pretending to be indignant about being told the truth are just plain old hypocrites. If there is any single defining characteristic of Americans that the WHOLE WIDE WORLD can agree on, it is our insular ignorance.
Quit sweating the obvious truth.

mtpeaks writes:

"I will vote for the candidate who: ... 6. And finally, when elected will actually enact what was promised."

How does one determine that, exactly? A campaign promise is just that, a promise. It may be sincerely pledged, but circumstances, or the will of Congress, might not allow the promise to come to fruition. Unless, of course, you can see into the future (or own a time machine), in which case, it would be unnecessary to vote.

asja,
i will lose out when obama repeals bush's tax cuts. I worked very hard to get into that tax bracket. I find it appalling that obama wants to take that away.

Why should people who made bad decision be rewarded! I really don't get that. ARMs are bad decisions, no money down, bad decision. People characterize these mortgage lenders like snake oil salesman. Mortgages are not some big secret, these people should have done their homework before signing on the dotted line.

John McCain has a proven record of fiscal responsibility. (Pundits can insert trite war spending comment here.) Not one single earmark! That means something to me. Dems have a "plan" that they have been apparently passing back and forth between themselves trying to figure out how they can increase taxes and votes at the same time.

Are there any New Yorkers who would kindly inform those in the outer provinces that Michael Ruben Bloomberg endorsed Joseph Isadore Lieberman for re-election in '06.

Bloomberg, who has flipped from Democrat to Republican to Independent and now to speculation as a VP choice?

Fuhgetaboutit!

Obama has come so far for media bias.Media like W. Post,CNN,MSNBC,NBC etc are dedicated Obama Soldier.

Lady Macbeth Obama should just be quiet already. Her husband already is known to surround himself with loonies. She shouldn't make it so plain that his wife, who manages him, is one herself.

Everyone should seek out and read the posting by pedraza1, which was posted at 1:44pm. Brilliant.....

Thank you for your service....your country appreciates you.

saying americans are ignorant is like saying the earth goes round the sun. accept it, smile and move on. america is the butt of the rest of the world's jokes when it comes to insularity and ignorance. and we're arrogantly proud of it. michelle obama shouldn't deny saying what is absolutely irrefutably true.

quit the fake indignation and find bern or canberra on a map. hint, its not close to iran.

that's just true and here's a video to prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6W3T7MTh4M

This is Michelle Obama telling us all we are ignorant. Previous post was an error in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1etj68cO7zk

Mr. Obama's campaign tried to say that wasn't what Michelle Obama said here in this video.

They are always denying the truth. Must have learned that in the crazy church.

Oh Dang!!!!

I guess that 3:00 AM call is not going to get answered until 4:30 AM when she finishes putting on makeup.

Oh.. I'm sorry Hillary "sniper-fire" Clinton. Your 3:00 AM call cannot wait that long.

No liars for president.
No crooks for president.
No more pity votes.
No more sympathy votes.
Release your tax return.
Let us see your land dealings.
Let us see your sources of income.
Let us see whom you paid to murder Vince Forster.

Posted by: Dave27
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I see you bought Obama's BS speech. You need to re-read and listen to his Friday before interviews if you really want to see some lies that will affect America.
Do you folks ever think for yourself. I think Clinton's remarks were extra stupid. It is hard to understand why pols say things that have videos to contridict it. I acknowledge she is not perfect. You sheep seem to think Obama is God. How blind. Be objective at least a little bit.

About 41 percent of Americans have no income tax liability or do not file a return. But every wage-earner is hit by the payroll tax, amounting to more than they pay in income taxes for 86 percent of them.

Under whose administration will you pay more tax?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1985

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Obama is a progressive?? Obama as the man to resolve the Iraqi crisis??

Not according to writers like Pierre Tristam. Writers have documented the ways in which Sen. Obama is pro-War, pro-lobbyist, and pro-patriot act.

Tristam calls Barack Obama a "Republican hawk in Kennedy clothing."

"If this is what we are to expect from the new generation of Democratic leaders, Bush's legacy has nothing to fear. It's writhing with life under a new guise. Call it neo-conservatism with a human face."

"Repeating his [Obama's] idea for a "phased withdrawal" from Iraq only to call it a "redeployment" in the same breath (the coy deflection from cutting and running, which is what this is and what it must be, dates back to Ronald Reagan calling the Marines' withdrawal from Beirut in 1984 a "redeployment"), he leaves open the door for a longer stay..."

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/20/2648/

http://tampabay.indymedia.org/article/barack-obama-fraud

Obam - Mr. Teleprompter.

Here is Michelle Obama telling us that American's are ignorant - and happily so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

The Obama campaign responded that that isn't what she said.

Wow. They really need to stop insulting our intelligence. Anytime now would be a good time to stop doing that.

exhooper - You are so ignorant it is flat out amazing. Affirmation Action programs were designed to provide employment opportunities and training for those black men. What happened, instead, was spoiled white women, the college educated privileged brats of the the white middle class, sqwacked and TOOK those set asides. This left those black men with no jobs, no training, no future, and those feminist bigits in charge of the very programs designed to lift black families out of poverty. Small wonder, with nothing else available, those black men have turned to drugs and alcoholism and crime. Hillary and her white middle class crones, the feminists, CAUSED this. The high illegitimate birth rate is directly traced to them, too. Black women are as much victims of the bigotry of these feminists as black men. They have children to get on welfare. It's that or starve. In turn, those same feminist hags, persue those black men for "child support", imprson them when they can, and blather on and on some more about how awful men are. The solution is actually pretty simple -- remove any and all protected status for women. Deny them affirmative action jobs, set them aside for genuine racial minorities. Give those black men jobs and training and a chance to feed a family, provide for them, and you would soon see most of the "black" problems created by feminists disappear.

Here's my six-point economic plan for deciding whom to support. I will vote for the candidate who:
1. Is committed to eliminating our national debt by reducing government spending.
2. Understands that enacting massive "stimulus" packages is only making the problem worse by adding to the debt.
3. Will take back control of our economy from Wall Street by not allowing ruthless speculators to run up the price of oil, food, and other vital commodities beyond their true value.
4. Understands that the so-called Global Economy has enriched a few at the expense of all.
5. Will pursue self-sustainability as a worthy economic goal.
6. And finally, when elected will actually enact what was promised.

gmcc,
if you're middle class and earn less than 75,000 a year, your tax will go down not up under obama. if your stupid neighbors down the street are about to foreclose, it will bring your own property value down, he'll help ensure that doesn't happen.

you can be dogmatic and wallow in ignorance or pragmatic and understand that you can't live in an island when 2 million americans are being foreclosed. vote for mccain and he'll borrow some more from china, spend in 2 months in iraq what obama will do to preserve your home value and you wont be safer and your children's children will be selling federal land on auction to pay back interest to the chinese and the saudis.

obama is more fiscally conservative than mccain. ask anyone who understands economics and has read the democrats plans and mccains plan. you are relying on a reputation for good fiscal governance the republicans don't have. bush inherited a surplus and control of both houses of congress. where did it go? how did it become 10 trillion dollars of debt?

i see people like you don't mind becoming poorer, just as long as it's under a republican who lowers the value of your hard assets and your dollars without "reaching into your pocket"
gimmie a break!

Oh Dang!!!!

I guess that 3:00 AM call is not going to get answered until 4:30 AM when she finishes putting on makeup.

Oh.. I'm sorry Hillary "sniper-fire" Clinton. Your 3:00 AM call cannot wait that long.

No liars for president.
No crooks for president.
No more pity votes.
No more sympathy votes.
Release your tax return.
Let us see your land dealings.
Let us see your sources of income.
Let us see whom you paid to murder Vince Forster.

I'm not sure how Mr. Obama can give a speech on the economy.

He seems convinced that 50% = 100%

I think, based on this equation that he really should release his college transcripts.

Haven't you seen the interview of college students where Hillary held her initial campaign speeches and qa sessions?

Students told news reporters that Hillary's campaign staff gave pre-printed questions to ask Hillary during the q/a session, and the unsuspecting students fell for it. I am not making this up.

She is now mocking Obama for discussing what is important to the people in America. She has no clue, no foresight, no class, no decency, and now most Americans and even people in other countries trust even a word that comes out of her mouth.

Release your tax return.
Let us see your land dealings.
Let us see your sources of income.
Let us see whom you paid to murder Vince Forster.

DON'T BE DUPED !!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. "Carpe diem" (harvest the day).

I think Hillary Clinton see's a beautiful world of plenty for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it's time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children's future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

Hillary Clinton has been out manned, out gunned, and out spent 2 and 3 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton's offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama's place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith...

America, If a guy is good, he is simply good. Sen. Obama is good for America,
Posted by: tintin08
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Before I vote for McCain if Obama wins, tell me how you know he is a good guy? How is he good for America? I don't see what you see, inform me. All I see is liberal BS. I would like to vote Dem. I'm a Blue Dog Dem. Convince me?

There are a lot of hateful words on here for Senator Obama. A lot of posters stating that the media is STILL unfair to Senator Clinton. You people amaze me. If I did not support Senator Obama I would now. If you hate him that much and spread lies about the media being unfair to Senator Clinton like you do, he MUST BE GOOD! I don't think any of the candidates have a clue when it comes to the economy because economies are not run by goverments, just STIMULATED by them. Go take an economics class, talk to an economist or economics professor. The lies and tall tales you are spreading about Senator Obama yet at the same time crying how everyone is SO UNFAIR TO Hilary. Please! The nation in a whole has rated her negative. She and all her supporters are making this campaign negative. Read all the negative post on here about Senator Obama, READ IT!!! Tell me who is attacking who.

The speech was not Sen. Obama's best, and although I am no fan of federal regulation, he made a good argument for modernization of the oversight process. Unfortunately, most Americans know so little about economic theory that most can't tell good ideas from bad ones from borrowed ones; sadly, this includes most of the comments here. At the very least, Sen. Obama's positions are far more cogent to his quality as a President than the out of context quotes from his Pastor that have gotten too much attention. We need to fix our education system so our electorate knows what it is doing.

P.S. to getcentered:
"We do not yet know much about Obama such as:"
...followed by talking points circulated more than a U.S. penny.
"7. Should I go on?"
No. Sorry they made you serve in Vietnam, that the whole thing was a huge mistake, that nobody held a parade for the brave men who served there, and that Iraq is another Vietnam. None of which excuses race-baiting.

Democrats ROCK???

man, i am so nostalgic for the times when young people did not care about politics...

I really do not want a president who ROCKS. I want one who will stay out of my life and my wallet.

That is not a democrat, it is a republican. Young people do not have a lot to lose in this election. I have a family and I have to support them, I really do not want to pay more taxes to bail out people who do not understand that the payment in adjustable rate mortgage can only go up! how stupid are you?

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In a January speech at the University of South Carolina, First Lady aspirant Michelle Obama made remarks making the rounds on the internet today.

Talking about her experience at Princeton where she hung with a largely African-American crowd, she said, "We don't like being pushed outside of our comfort zones. You know it right here on this campus. You know people sitting at different tables- you all living in different dorms. I was there. You're not talking to each other, taking advantage that you're in this diverse community. Because sometimes it's easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That's America. So the challenge for us is are we ready for change?"

I'm sure we all know what she's talking about when she reflects on the comfort many of us feel with those of our specific cultural or ethnic groups.

But her comments are under fire by many conservative commentators because of her construct that seems to imply that feeling justified in one's own ignorance in somehow quintessentially "America."

The Obama campaign says that's a mis-interpretation of her comments, that it was the proclivity for "comfort zones" that she thought was so "America."

Source: ABC News

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Wow. If Obama ever had an original economic idea in his head it would die of lonliness. Some of these ideas "to fix the economy" are so old and tired they were first set down in cave drawings. Of course, this will get fawning coverage from the press which is always eager to shower Obama with "the soft prejudice of low expectations". This is just the mirror image, democratic version of the simplistic pap that Bush could have come up with in his Republican, simple, playskool mind. Since the Democratic leadership and the press has decided to prematurely kill the Hillary Clinton candidacy, is there anyone else who actually UNDERSTANDS how things work who would take the job? (Gore- are you listening)?

To stabilize the housing market you have to let the prices fall down to where they should be, not prop up inflated prices. What is Barrack going to do for people who want to buy a house but can't do their their "bailout" plan creating inflated home prices?

I always love when candidates talk about ha