The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

It must really bother the Obama supporters that Clinton continues to carry the big states and the big money while their candidate contiues to pull in the uneducated, unemployed, and uninformed. Most can't do the basic math or they would understand that their candidate is ahead but hasn't done the slamdunk they claim. In almost all cases, the delegates from the caucus events are free to do as they please and there are a lot of them that will do exactly that at the convention. Most voters won't support a proven racist and the ones that do are practicing reverse racism and lying to themselves. Obama supporters care about what he can do for them, their pocketbook, their issues. Clinton supporters care about what she can do for their neighbors and family and society in general. Just another example of where the "me" society has taken us.

I don't care about what Clinton can get done, she is a liar, cannot be trusted to tell the truth, and would be bad for America.

We need somebody that CAN BE TRUSTED TO TELL THE TRUTH, and her entire history is based on lies and distortions. If you don't believe me look at her so-called 35 years of experience, her health care fiasco, her Bosnia LIES (not misspoke), her Northern Ireland lies, her SCHIPS lies, her Watergate lies, and on and on and on. It is like the toilet paper that gets stuck to the bottom of shoes, her lies go with her wherever she goes, and she cannot get away from them.

If that is not enough, try to figure out why her negatives are at or above 50% across almost all of the polls. She cannot be trusted or believed. She and her husband are adherents of the "lie, cheat, and steal" approach to all they do.

Enough said.

I heard a woman from the Clinton campaign on talk radio telling that she was an engineering consultant for the campaign for making a green America. she claimed that it was possible to produce enough fuel from cattle manure to stop importing oil. I believe this may indeed come true if Hillary keeps slinging the B.S.

What is common with Obama, Mugabe, and Idi Amin ?

Rev Wright and other racists would say they are all brothers but the truth is they stop elections mid way and rig votes to win as it is happening in Michigan and Florida.

If Florida and Michigan is not counted, this nomination is flawed and should be rejected. Obama wants to keep Florida and Michigan out which in terms of population is equal to keeping 20 states out ( like Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont, Washington DC and Wyoming).
I am surprised not a single Obama maniacs are responding to this math and they are the ones with the so called "mail order degreed" supporters who drink only at Starbucks. These 2 states are more important than the 20 rigged caucus states which Obama has "won".

DNC in Florida in 2000, in court, bend all the rules, rewrite them in an effort to count every vote. That is paramount.

Obama operatives in Florida in 2008, keep all rules sacrosanct even if it means disenfranchising everyone in the state.

Politics means never having to say you're sorry.

Irregularities i Texas?

"In some cases handwriting on sign-in sheets at caucuses March 4 were obviously the same handwriting but for different names. One woman in a wheelchair wasn't let into a caucus on March 4, and one Clinton supporter was told she didn't have to stay, he added." (Source: CNN) If this is true then no caucuses should be considered legal.

Whatever Barack Obama decides ... and weather or not it's good for the Democratic Party and America - Hillary Clinton will lead an administration that stands tall for the concerns of the American people... including the very worthy concerns and considerations that weigh heavily on the Obama supporter.

a bigone and svreader and iowatresures are all one person that keeps having a conversation with himself.How confusing it must be in the middle of that one!

Whatever Hillary Clinton decides ... and weather or not it's good for the Democratic Party and America - Barack Obama will lead an administration that stands tall for the concerns of the American people... including the very worthy concerns and considerations that weigh heavily on the Clinton supporter.

Hillary is no different than Bill Clinton. Remember how Bill Clinton came into office with the Democrats controlling both houses of Congress, but his ineptness allowed the rise of the far-right Gingrich Republicans. Remember too how the money he raised for his re-election was not used to ensure the emergence of the Democratic Party, but rather of Bill. Bill and Hillary have always put themselves ahead of the Democratic Party. Wise up Democrats, tell Bill and Hill their destructive self-centeredness is over.

Go Hill Go!!! Beat those goddamn liberals.
AF

Follow the rules? The DNC wants to take my vote away and 2.3 million others because our states broke the rule that apparently says New Hampshire can do whatever they want whenever they want. Now they want to break the rules that say voting ends June 10, 2008, the Credential Committee decides seating of delegates and the nominee is chosen by a vote of delegates at the convention. What hypocrites!

Dear Pat, interesting monologue. I have some questions:

1) "Hill-Bill could still pull this one off, with more nasty tricks,and a....". Which nasty tricks have they done before?

2) "Much easier to sling mud and dodge bullets, than for Hill to run an honest campaign.". What has Hillary´s campaign done that is not honest?

3) "The only candidate that would have a POSITIVE global impact is Obama.". In what sence and why would Obama have a global inpact?

4) Is the Obama campaign honest?

European

The Obama supporters want to stop the race now because the longer it goes the more Americans will see Obama an inexperienced fraud. They don't care Florida and Michigan. And they don't give a damn about people in Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virgina and millions more in the remaining states.

My view from Canada differs quite a bit, but it won't sell newspapers or take up air time and sound bytes. Hill-Bill could still pull this one off,with more nasty tricks,and a big finale fight: Billy vs the Kennedy dynasty, and as to whomever can strong arm the superdelegates better. The Democrats need to get Hillary out of the way to save face, they can't have her embarrassed by losing what should have been a sure Democratic Presidency; and it looks more and more like that is a possibility that the Democrats WON't win...

It is very important that she remains until the final votes have been cast.

When Obama loses and McCain wins Obama is the perfect scapegoat[ too young, too new, too inexperienced, too black, too whatever ] And don't forget the Ralph Nader Factor, he will draw as much as 10% of the democratic vote away from Obama, which will be just enough to let McCain, squeak in.
AND, WINK, WINK, the PEOPLE have voted !!!!!!!!!! All the votes have been cast, everything above board.

AL Gore is too smart to get involved, but in a nice wide position for the 2012 POTUS. But... if the convention is a bloodbath, Al Gore may take the ticket to see if he can save them the embarassement of an election that was theirs on a platter, and they just couldn't do it. Much easier to sling mud and dodge bullets, than for Hill to run an honest campaign. She needed professional campaign & marketing people to tell her what she needed to do, instead of surrounding herself with inexperienced but loyal Clinton lovers. She wanted all the control, and she got it.

The next few months will be interesting, but I think the corporations that still control America.. decided who was winning in early 2007.

Very sad ... because Canada could have used some fresh air in the jetstream. The only candidate that would have a POSITIVE global impact is Obama.

Like Pierre Trudeau said in 78. Living beside the USA is like sleeping with an elephant. No matter their demeanor, we are still effected by their every twitch and sigh. Our own Prime Minister has already sold us out in February 2008, we will be allowed to keep our name "Canada', but the paperwork is already signed, for George W's, ""Fortress Amercia"". For those interested in the global picture wwwglobalresearchdotca has lots to read by some of the finest political/economic minds in the word.

Pat in Canada

Can anybody tell me if Barack Obama has made any obvious contributions to American welfare? He is not that young. To me he seems only to be a good speaker and actor. He has learnt to keep his chin high and his eyes are looking down at you. No real human feelings. Why not Hollywood?
European

Relax, fellow travelers - its in the bag. You don't think the left wing patriarchs are actually going to allow an uppity black to have the nomination, do you?

Just look at their history (more appropriately the lack thereof) of appointing blacks to high level positions.

It ain't gonna happen. The clinton's still have more bombs to throw and strings to pull.

Hills likes movies, especially when she and blowboy are the stars in the psychodrama, which is, as always, not about the right thing, but about their ego--it's always about THEM.

The difference in votes between Obama and Clinton is so insignificant that it does not warrant the demand of those Obamaistas to have Clinton step down of the race. Since when a so-call 200 votes advantage means a "defeat"?

Why can't Obama step down? In my view he's the one dividing the Party. His "youthful" impetus to be president, when he should wait to learn international politics hands-on is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back if he wins the presidency. Why? Because he already has experience in selling himself to slumlords and the big energy companies. He already has practice and experience in political corruption. Please, Saint Obama, wait to get experience in what really matters. Don't be in a rush.

Sen Leahy from Vermont ( pop .5 million) has the audacity to tell Hillary to get out. He does not even represent a busy street on Times square on a typical day. The baldie needs to shut up and milk his cows in Vermont

"Neither one of us will have the delegates needed to be nominated," Clinton said.
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A "minor" fact that the Obama campaign continuously ignores.

I like long movies too.

I saw irreverend wright on tv again today, too bad he didn't say anything.

Obama is basically an unknown quantity, and what we do know: product of the slimy Dem machine in Chicago, Rezko, Wright and "Black Theology", "typical white person", etc etc ad nauseum doesn't pass the smell test. He has been an absent senator since he got elected and is so duplicitous he is beginning to forget what lie he told last and contradicts himself regularly.

Unelectable in the general. If the Dems want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and nominate Obama, then this swing voter from PA says go to it...and see a president McCain.

"Continuing to jump on Hillary Clinton for embellishing her Bosnia visit is a mark of the nastiness of the...". I agree. As a European I for sure would have regarded her statement as self-irony and in that sence of no importance at all. What happend after she had left the airport is far more interesting. Self-irony does not seem to be a strong side of the American mentality. Irony seems to be a great passion in your life.

royrichard:

The distinction between Lecturer and Professor is not as great here in the US as it is in Europe. In fact, many American universities, including the one where I teach, do not use the title "Lecturer" but rather make that position "Professor" as well, though not on the tenure track. On the other hand, European "Lecturers", at least in my field, are often the equivalent to tenure-track Assistant Professors in the US. So these titles don't really translate well from the European system to the American system.

So, Obama would not be considered a Professor necessarily, but would likely be addressed as "Professor" by his students.

Continuing to jump on Hillary Clinton for embellishing her Bosnia visit is
a mark of the nastiness of the
Obama camp - riding the Republican
bandwagon that trashes the character of Hillary and Bill Clinton whenever they can, and thus taking attention away from the real issures. Obama-ites are loving what conservs like Peggy Noonan are writing now, but the truth is, she can hardly wait for
Obama to win the nomination so McCain can take the election.

Movie, acting and simulateing:

"The University of Chicago said Friday Barack Obama accurately described himself as a onetime law professor at the school, despite the fact his formal title was "Senior Lecturer." "He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track" it also said. (Secondary source:CNN)

Being a European I think this sounds more like not telling the truth! Either you are a Senior Lecture or you are a Professor and nothing in between. If the title of professor is used in that easy way then your country certainly not is under "recession" with respect to University titles. I am not a Professor in American languages so please forgive me if you don´t understand what I am writing. However a misused word, such as Professor, is a serious act if the intention is to improve someones reputation. To me it sounds falce.

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith...

If Obama and his fans thinks this little campaign is too tough, he ought to drop out.

If he believes it's hurting the DNC , he ought to drop out

If he thinks his opponent ought to drop out, he ought to drop out first.

If Obama is too sissified, too efette, too afraid, too timid, he ought to drop out.

The issue here is rights and priorities.

The most important rights are rights of the voters and the most important priority is that they be given a chance to have their votes count.

If the state party leaders screwed up, keel-haul them, but don't punish the voters.

Its not their fault.

Presidential elections only come by every four years.

It would go against what our founding fathers risked their lives for to deprive Americans of ther right to vote.

Let the chips fall where they may.

Oh and on the damage she inflicts:

www.tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/go-on-digging/

here are some new poll numbers

Yelladog, Hillary Clinton didn't fall off the haytruck yesterday. Of course she knows the implications of the primary system fully well. And because she knows it, she knows that she is unable to win this, too. The rules have been fixed at the start and she plans to change them (Michigan, Florida)in order to be able to stay in the race. Of course she is to blame, she accepted the rules, didn't she? I mean before the rules turned against her.

Rezko who received a $3.5 million loan from London-based IRAQI billionaire Nadhmi Auchi -- a loan that was later forgiven in exchange for shares in a prime slice of Chicago real estate. Rezko gave $700,000 of the money to his wife and used the rest to pay legal bills and funnel cash to various supporters."

These Funds from Auchi's loan helped finance a complex series of transactions between Rezko and Democratic Presidential candidate Illinois Senator Barack Obama involving the 2005 purchase of Obama's Chicago mansion and Rezko's purchase of an adjoining landlocked parcel.

Rezko claims he paid "full market price" and Obama apparently received a "discount" of several hundred thousand dollars for his parcel. Rezko then improved his parcel to benefit Obama.

Instead of handing cash to Obama, Rezko handed Obama a preferential price for property. This is the same form of "honest graft" and preferential treatment that sent former Illinois Governor Otto Kerner to jail over 30 years ago, see United States v. Isaacs, 493 F.2d 1124 (7th Cir. 1974).

The Chicago Sun-Times recently reported that Mr. Rezko, around the same general period he was wheeling with Obama, also provided a preferential price for a property purchase by U. S. Representative Luis Gutierrez.

Instead of transferring cash to buy influence, Rezko was engaging in structured property transactions and preferential treatment of public officials to confer significant financial benefits on them, far above the legal limits of any legitimate political contribution permitted by federal law.

Mr. Tony Rezko who owns a slum landlord business in inner city Chicago is under indictment in Illinois for seeking to extort money from potential state vendors.

The Democratic Party created its primary system not Sen. Clinton. It chose to grant delegates by distributing them on a proportional basis. In contrast, the Republicans chose a "winner-take-all" primary system. Therefore, the Republican system chose their candidate more quickly. It's a mystery to me why the pundits try to blame Clinton for this protracted race. She didn't create this mess, which is the Democratic primary system. I don't see any reasons why she should pay for a mess that she didn't make. It's too late to fix the system for this round, so it must play out. Change the rules next time around. Clearly they are a shambles. For example, I hear Texas is having yet another convention today during which their delegate count may change. And then they have another convention scheduled in June, during which they could change again. HOW IS THAT SEN. CLINTON'S FAULT??? I'm sure she doesn't like it any better than anyone else does.

As they head to Colorado for their Broken Convention, they announce the progression of the Party!

From JFK's Democratic, to Carter's Dimocrat Socialist, to the current "ARISTOCRAT" Party!

THEY are so much MORE than Dimocrats!

THEY, are the "ARISTOCRATS"! ;~)

When we are able to get beyond the old political ways, beyond the hardened cynicisms and mistrust of government, so exaggerated by decades now of smack down wedge issue divisiveness, if we can actually believe that democracy still carries its original kernel of idealistic vision, with the original flame of freedom and justice, fairness - when we admit to ourselves that these virtues are worth something to us, then we will have first one or two, then a few more and then still more and more candidates for public office whose passion is to serve that essential vision, to stir and inspire citizens to participate with their most generous rather than their most partisan vision - when we reach a critical threshold of such visionary minded pols - then we will begin resolving many of the issues necessary to meet the changing paradigms of an evolving world exchange - any candidate who believes and plays accordingly will succeed to some extent in making way for the unleashing of the talents and energies of a newly sophisticated generation. This generation has a vision of tomorrow that collectively will lead us into the safer world, into the saner and more healthy world we've been trying to get to since the advent of modern warfare and even more modern technology and communications...

The Democratic Party should already change its name to LIBERAL PARTY.

With a leader like Nancy Pelosi, This party will not prosper with its ultra-left
wing views. Their winning in the 2006 election is more of disenchantment with Bush rather than embrace of their left wing ideology.

Choosing a LIBERAL as its presidential nominee against Sen. Mccain will give the Republicans another chance to win the presidency.

The best part about this movie is the scene where the bullets are whizzing around Hillary as she weaves across the tarmac.

world not would

Obama's only purpose in this would is to make Mac president.

We democrats have many sins I am sure.

GD Michigan - Typical white people - Gerry - Votes - people who vote - peace - sanity - thinking for yourself - mistrust.

She really means:
Everyone who'll vote for me should have a chance to have their votes counted.

When Hillary says:
"I believe that a spirited contest is good for the Democratic Party"

She really means:
What's good for Hillary Clinton is good for the Democratic Party.

For a Hillary Jargon Lexicon, please go to:
www.Americans-Away-From-Home.com

Carole
www.Americans-Away-From-Home.com

Posted by: cbcb1 | March 28, 2008 11:10 PM

Please Please Please go join the GOP and become a country club republican you would improve both parties by dong this I am sure.

Hillary really bothers the blow-hards in the media. She reminds them every day how little they know and she is a women.

I believe Hillary will pass Obama in the popular vote by May and win the nomination.

I love the pronouncements of the outcome of the general election. As a Republican, I am delighted that my party's candidate has a chance where, six months ago, I thought there was none. Hillary would have been a shoe in without Obama. Now, with Obama as the likely candidate, the war for the nomination has brought him down to the level of ordinary politician from shining knight above the fray.

McCain is not perfect but he is a better choice than Obama. The presidency should not be a training ground.

Take a look at the popular vote, HILLARY is in the race. This is a ploy by the OL BOYS CLUB of the DNC AND CAMP OBAMA, this drop out crap.

www.hillaryspeaksforme.com

CAN SOME ONE EXPLAIN, HOW OBAMA CAN WIN THE GENERAL

obama will not win the general.

minorities and young people are majority among democrats. Obama so far has the lead as he carries both of them. This is race can still be won by Clinton. Obama's pastor is the Hoffa's body in his flower yard.

In the general, Obama cannot win with just the black vote, less than 30%% of the hispanic vote, less than 30% of the asian and may be 15-20% of the white vote.

Mccain, will be the next president. He will have to work even less in general election than he had to in the primary, towards the end with Huckabee.

McCain is a very good candidate and will be a good president, so I guess democrats could nominate Obama and make things easier for McCain, who is already tested/proven and does not need the stress of a additional general election campaign to test him.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race... Several sources in her own camp admit that she has virtually no chance of winning the nomination except if she succeeds in finding James Hoffa's body and moving it in Obama's flower garden to put the blame on him.

Since there is little chance for the body to be found, she makes all these negative assertions. The goal seems to be the 2012 election. By putting enough doubts on Obama, Hillary is hoping that he will lose to McCain and that she or Chelsea (who is also an experienced leader after her journey at the White House mansion) will be able to run in 2012. The Clintons might then be able to capitalize again with the rental of the Lincoln Bedroom to big lobbyists.

Whatever happens, since the Judas story with Richardson, we know that Hillary believes in ressurection; she or her husband Bill would be Jesus if I understood correctly the story. So, we can assume that Hillary will not hesitate to play the kamikaze with this election or the next one since she will probably reborn again, as the savior.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race before she hurts herself or others.

I'm only 27, and have only experienced two presidential elections. However, I have two degrees in political science. So, I have to ask all these people that are screaming about their right to vote and Clinton not dropping out: All those elections where the nominee was wrapped up before May and June in the past were suppressing the vote, too? Sure, asking for someone to drop out could be a little much. But, when every realistic calculation says you have no chance of surpassing the leader, what's the point in continuing? All it does is rally people around you, and keep them peeved at whatever Great Satan du jour you're railing against.

As a former Independent, I am appalled that Clinton 1 & 2 would have the absolute gall to turn their backs on the party that gave them power in the first place to practically endorse McCain. Not only do you slap every faithful Democrat in the face with that trash, but you're giving the GOP ammunition against your opponent (and yourself). My Master's degree is in campaign management, and all of my colleagues are puzzled at what Clinton 1 & 2 are doing, as well as her campaign aides. Although the Clintons are known for being veritable pit bulls, they're playing with a more finicky public. It's all too much. Some of us are tearing our hair out at what's going on with her, and the rest sit back in amazed, dumbfounded silence.

Jesus God, Hillary, what are you doing? Every good competitor knows when it's time to bow out gracefully, and more especially, intelligently. Get rid of Wolfson, Penn, and your latest igmo, Singer.

Clinton has an obligation to the millions of people that have voted for her and plan to vote for her to stay in the race to see the final outcome.

She nor obama or anyone else has the right to call it quits, and turn her back on the people that support her.

They already dis-enfranchised 2 states, and want to do the same to another 14.

This is utter nonsense

Obama Hussien is toast in the general election. He was against going to war in Iraq, not because he had better judgement, but because his uncle pastor told him so. Did not want to attack his uncle Hussien. he has been against most wars waged by us and and will continue to be against any war for any reason in the future.

Hillary has a very good chance of winning in the general. Inspite everything she is accused of, she will be a successfull president.

Nice, sweet people do not accomplish anything , just become saints.

It is very premature to call this race done. upcoming primaries are the first test, since Mr. Obama's pastor controversy.

You may also see a public backlash against the media for wanting to call this election one way or another on behalf of 14 states based on polls

Obama wants to keep Florida and Michigan out which in terms of population is equal to keeping 20 states out ( like Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, WEst Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont, Washington DC and Wyoming). My 10 year old did the math and told me so
Shame on Obama and to the democratic party for RIGGING the elections and not letting FLORIDA and MICHIGAN count.

I have just concluded an exhaustive 14 month research study of every single autobiographical, biographical, publicly recorded, journalistically reported and scurrilously rumored piece of data that has ever existed on both Sen Obama and Sen Clinton. The data is irrefutable and mathematically unassailable. Sen Clinton is better than Sen Obama. I understand this is a difficult moment for supporters of Sen Obama, but give it time, you will learn to live with this reality just as people once learned to accept a heliocentric solar system and gravity. That is all.

Mrs. Clinton has the right to stay in the race as long as she wants, whatever the odds. However, she does not have the ethical and moral right to say anything, do anything, or trash anybody to steal the nomination. After all, it is a matter of simple decency. It is also essential that a candidate be truthful and transparent. Yet, Hillary lies needlessly about her Bosnia trip to pad her resume and han't released her tax returns or their donor list. And the arrogance of it all! She said she will release it AFTER she was nominated. Just think about that folks. The democratic primary voters do NOT deserve to be told!

Compare the way McCain is running his campaign. He refuses to bring up Obama's pastor, while Hillary, instead of defending Obama's character as any decent human being would do, is more than willing to add gasoline to the pastor fire! He has recognized the fact that Obama is not his pastor's keeper! Hillary, on the other hand, uses the whole unfortunate episode to undermine a fellow democrat! No wonder, many Obama supporters would rather vote for McCain than for Hillary!

Look. Choosing someone to lead our nation for the next four years is not easy. We never know what the person will or can do once he/she is in the White House (a good example is the uniter GWB!). However, if the person we select is a honest, decent and compassionate human being, I am quite sure he/she will do what is right and best for us all. We really need somebody there who wants to serve, not who wants to leverage that office for personal gains. This point is very, very important, far more important than policy positions or whether he/she is liberal or conservative. Think back to earlier periods in our history. Our earlier presidents did not attempt to make use of their position, once they left office. Contrast that to recent ones. Reagan, the Republican deity, made speeches in Japan and earned large sums of money. Look at Bill Clinton. He has made untold millions giving speeches, peddling his influence all round the world. Is this what we want from our ex-presidents? Shouldn't there be a law that prohibits politicians, especially presidents, from mis-using their previous positions of public trust for personal profit? If we don't, we will never have a president who becomes president to serve the public rather than feather his/her own nest.

All things considered, it appears to me that Obama is more trustworthy, honest and decent than Hillary. And that is good enough for me to vote for him in November. I am quite sure there are millions of Americans, who feel the same way, especially in the remaining states such as PA, NC, IN ... So let Hillary continue to run. These voters will make the right choice and Obama will win the nomination, no matter what dirty and underhanded tactics Hillary, Bill and her supporters use. Or at least I hope they do. If not, we deserve what we get!!!

In the Wall Street today, Peggy Noonan writes that if you don't see clearly now that Hillary is a congenital liar, and her people are lowdown scums, even after the blatant story-telling of snipers in Bosnia, you likely never will.

SHAME ON YOU, HILLARY CLINTON. Stop treating us as your inferiors, and stop lying to us.

These posts really do prove that Billary connects to less educated voters.

Because anyone with half a brain would know that Obama had nothing to do with the FL and MI debacles. MI and FL state legislators broke the rules. HRC is on record (I'm sure it's on YouTube)saying the votes in MI would not count. Oh but now since she behind in the race, she wants to "do the right thing". Gimme a freakin break!! And we want someone like that in the White House, that changes the rules when it suits their interests. And on top of that she is proven liar.

Gideon- where have you been for the last 44 years? She is no more a goldwater republican than he is a cocaine-using confused "activist" who likes to hang out with socialists (his own descriptions of things he did in his youth)- are we now going back to what they did when they were teenagers? really, grow up and stop the name calling
Leon

Fine I agree she should stay in the race but at what cost. My firm belief is that the Clintons motives are much more sinister than people think.
When Clinton finally leaves the democratic race she will be McCain's running mate. She is a Goldwater Republican, so thats where she really belongs.

With all due respect, you're full of crap.

i've been an observer of the bill and hillary show for more than thirty years. i met bill in 1975. i admired him for having near upset a deeply entrenched republican congressman the year before and had high hopes for him. the old saying, that "no man is a hero to his valet" is true. as time passed, it became apparent that bill and hillary were not about ideas, principles, or hopes, they're about bill and hillary, period. to be sure, i preferred him over any republican as president, but mainly because he wouldn't do any mischief. i don't believe this country can stand that kind of luxury any longer. we need change, deep and lasting change. that's why i support obama. not for his promises, but because i see in him something i've never seen in bill or hillary. i think its called character.

Obama wants to keep Florida and Michigan out which in terms of population is equal to keeping 20 states out ( like Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont, Washington DC and Wyoming). My 10 year old did the math and told me so
Shame on Obama and to the DNC for RIGGING the elections and not letting FLORIDA and MICHIGAN count.

- A Massachusetts Democrat who will become a Mccain Democrat if Obama is nominated

x32792, look back at your last comment. Are you proud of yourself?

Post Headline:
"Clinton: Get Some Popcorn and Settle In"
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The use of a name followed by a colon generally indicates a quote. Sen Clinton is not quoted making the flip remark in the header. Why is it there? It's very misleading. It reminds me of the time honored right wing radio gas bag device of always telling us what the opposition "really means". Needless to say, its appearance on the Washington Post is just another in the long line of signs on its road to tabloidization.

Too early to start singing "Ding dong, the witch is dead"?

From "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-misspoke.html

"Monday, March 24, 2008
I Misspoke

It was a treacherous night landing. Ice had formed on both of our wings, and as I looked out the port window, I could see it breaking into shards, flying off into the night sky with each near barrel roll of our C-50, highlighted by the flares shooting past on either side of the cabin, turning them into falling prisms of wildly careening light.

As the cabin lurched back and forth and the sounds of rocket fire percussed the urgent, faltering rhythm of our right engine, I unfastened my seat belt, and, finding my center of gravity, rose from my seat, moving past aides frozen stock still in their chairs, arms locked like girders against their arm rests in terror, and walked up the center aisle to the pilot's cabin.

"How long to Kosovo"? I shouted over the screaming whine of the altimeter's alarm, marking our steep descent. The pilot turned, looked at me in shocked recognition--"How...how did you make it up here? No one has ever walked up here in these conditions before! How..."

"Never mind that!" I barked, with what I hoped was a not too stern forcefulness, combined with sufficient steel and empathy to create the appearance of a firm imperturbability. "Check the master FMC! Is it working or has it failed?"

The pilot, paused, as if in amazement at my readiness, and then himself awakening to crisis, looked to the Control Display Unit . "It's down! It's down!" he shouted. A bead of sweat began to form on his brow.

I knew what I had to do. "Get out of there!" I commanded, and pulled him from the seat, from where he crumbled to a fetal position on the floor behind me. Stepping over him, I took the chair behind the console.

"Check the Central Maintenance Computers and activate the NAV RAD for alternate radio tuning capability!" I shouted to the co-pilot. He, too, had broken down in tears, his head buried in his hands. I looked to his ID on the console. Another newbie.

Well, this was another one where I would have to go it alone.

Quickly, I tore the scarf from my neck and fashioned it into a crude lasso that could be used for EFIS/EICIS control. Catching the lever with my right hand, I activated the cabin loudspeaker with my left. I knew that the passengers had likely been gulled by the earlier soft patter of the pilot. "Brace yourself! Get ready! These aren't just words!" Then I pulled the lever back hard, sending us rocketing towards the runway.

"You'll never make it!" I knew that voice, and turned. Richardson! How did he trundle up to the cabin? "Out of here, Judas! And take that quivering beard with you!"

I could feel bolts straining against Pennsylvania steel as I pushed the '50 down, down, down to the ground below us. Suddenly, an explosion punctuated the sky--Hand held rocket fire at 3' o'clock!

I quickly performed the evasive maneuvers that I had learned for so long, and so well. My face became angry, then sad, then gentle, then intensely serious, then was finally rocked by a powerful squealing, an unnatural burst of laughter. That did it! The rocket exploded harmlessly behind us.

Now. Now it was time to take the stick and bring this shaking, careening flight, parts straining against themselves until nearly ready to burst, down to the ground. I put my arms to the twin arms of the FO-AP, set the APC, and with all of the strength remaining in me, began to push the levers down. Straining, I pushed harder. And harder. I could see the runway rising before us in the glare shield. I would have to find the remaining strength to bring it down.

Finally, as if a burst of superhuman might had been somehow delegated to me, I pushed the levers into locked position. I could hear Penn in the cabin shouting "We're landing...We're going down!" as I felt the rough shock of the landing gear snapping into place.

Sparks flew as we hit the runway, bullets ricocheting off of the cabin, one wheel touching pavement. I looked straight through the windshield--the militia, arms at the ready stood at the runway's end. The last obstacle.

I turned the craft hard, sending it hurtling sideways across the pavement. It swept the militia away in a single screaming motion that combined with the screaming that arose from the cabin, as we continued to move towards the small, makeshift terminal, where the dignitaries, negotiators, and heads of state awaited for my arrival.

I did not close my eyes. I did not let go of the wheel. I watched--as we ground to a halt just before the doors of the terminal.

I looked fore, at the dignitaries protecting themselves from the sniper fire that raged around them. I looked aft, at the passengers, shaken but safe.

We had arrived. All was good.

Just a moment...

Due to the discovery of a video of the above described occasion, I would like to make few small corrections. The flight was in fact actually a regularly scheduled chartered flight that was actually flown by the pilot and co-pilot--although the pilot did have a cold, and during the flight, I did at several times give serious attention to our flight conditions (notes indicate that I found it "a bit bumpy"). I would also note that the dinner, Salmon with Creamed Potatoes, was undercooked, and was served with a Riesling that was unusually dry. It is also true that we were met not by a militia, but by a girl's youth soccer team. However, it was necessary for me to dodge a soccer ball as team members demonstrated their often aggressive skills. No other shots were fired.

In short: I misspoke."

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-misspoke.html

The reason Obama people don't want Hillary to continue the contest is because they are afraid of facing the electorate in the primaries. Obama has won most of his lead in pledged delegate count by strategic focus on small red states (with caucus fame) where Hillary didn't even contest. In spite of all the media adoration and establishment support from the democratic party, he has failed to connect with people in large blue states from where the support for the democratic candidate is critical to win in November. Let us face it: it is the fear that people will vote against Obama in the remaining primaries and expose his weakness in the general election that is driving this chant of the Obama supporters for Clinton to get out. This is the same fear that made Obama oppose re-votes in FL and MI. No, this election is about people, and let the voters express their preference. The call for Hillary to step down springs from the weakness of Obama's support among the people and the fear of their candidate loosing badly in the remaining primaries.

I never thought I would see the day but if the contest was between Obama and Hillary only, I would vote for Hillary. I agree with all the comments about her inherent dishonesty, but I'd rather have a wily President than a greenhorn who thinks he could go sit down, without preconditions, with Venzuela's Chavez and not be used six ways to Sunday for propaganda purposes. To brag that this is the way he would conduct diplomacy is naive beyond belief!

Those seasoned politicians just know what is good for Hillary. That's why they are telling her to quit now. Sounds ironic ? No, it doesn't because they have been all through the rough and tumble of the dirty and cold political reality so know that the Clintons are only doing themselves a long term harm by their dogmatic insistence to see the matter only from their own angle which is losing credibility fast. The Clintons, by their obsessin with power (they had it once so they know how addictive it can get)have lost all sense of objectivity by now. The other officials are just reminding them, perhaps not all of them so directly like Leahy, that they have lost in their own game.

She contradicts herself in the same sentence. On one hand, she says that there are people who have not yet spoken. And apparently this is the main reason she offered as her reason for carrying on. Analysis(1): the will of the people is paramount, meaning whoever has the majority in the popular votes and the delegate lead should be the nominee, following this logic. On the other hand, she says that it is up to the supers to decide because neither of them will have the number of delegates needed. Analysis(2): it doesn't matter whether the majority of people actually voted for Barack as long as he hasn't achieved the delegate count required, because I will simply ask my super chummies to over turn the popular votes to nominate me, me, me. Do these make sense to you guys? Of course not. This type of wanton contradictions have been all about Hillary and her campaign and that is the reason why there are just so many people who just want to see the back of her. But alas, she simply refuses to get it!

The pledged delegate and caucuses rules of the Democratic Party for the Democratic primary are not democratic! To put it mildly it is a big disgrace! If the Party had followed the rules as per the national presidential elections, Hillary would have been nominated on Super Tuesday. Hillary has already won New York, New Jersey, California, Ohio and Texas. If all the pledged delegates from these states are given to Hillary which she rightly deserves, there would have been no mess! DNC should have at least followed the same rules followed by the Republican Party so that all the candidates would have the same playing field during the primaries.

. DNC made a mistake in not having some compromise before the election with Michigan and Florida regarding pledged delegates as was done by the RNC. Now, without making further complications they should accept the result. In Michigan they should give all the 'uncommitted' votes to Obama because, if his name was in the ballot he might have got those votes. In Florida the result should be accepted. Obama's complaint that if he had campaigned in these states, he would have got more votes is not correct. None of the other candidates campaigned there either. He campaigned more vigorously in Texas and Ohio and still did not win them
In future, the primary election rules should be same as national election rules. Then, there will not be this long political circus!

I agree with Talkleft.com: when they say this about Josh Marshall! How dare he trash a bonifide honest Democrat like Hillary Clinton!!

" Doing a mashup attack video used to be something reserved for Republicans from Josh Marshall's Talking Points Memo. By doing an attack video on Hillary Clinton, TPM demonstrates that not only has it become an Obama site, it is one of the most virulent and unfair of such sites. The honesty is good. After all, like Nancy Pelosi, we all knew this. What was lacking was the candor to admit it. With his latest tactics, Marshall has ostensibly admitted what we all knew anyway. Pelosi should follow suit."
Now if only NBC will admit the same

T. Barr

Scottsdale, AZ

I agree that the rhetoric needs to be toned down by this point, it is not fair-game to seek to defeat your own party so you can run in 2012, so none of this "unelectable" garbage.
Publicly, at least, Hillary does state that she is a team player for her party.
If she is to be "electable," she had better prove it with supportiveness for Obama.

If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, how can she expect anyone to vote for her after she pompously lied in detail, several times, about landing under sniper fire? McCain was shot down, beaten by an angry mob and tortured for over five years. McCain is a hero. Everyone that has served or had a relative in the services should be sickened by Hillary's manipulative tactics and her contrite non-apology that it was a memory blip. She misspoke.

I'm an Obama supporter but it seems unfair for high-level Dems to be leaning on Hillary to quit. So what if they fight until June. Hopefully the two of them together will suck all the oxygen out of any McCain news. But I do think they need to tone down the nasty rhetoric -- especially anything that smacks of 'my opponent is unelectable'. Come October, we're going to see those kind of comments in an endless loop on Fox News otherwise.

I despise Hillary and will be very dejected if she gets the nomination, but come November, I'm voting Democratic no matter who is on the ticket. The Republicans lied to us (and congress) and exploited our sorrow and shock after 9/11 to take us into a baseless war that has taken the lives of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. No way will I pull the lever for any Republican.

The facts remain;

Obama vs Clinton- Technorati, Digg, del.icio.us and Reddit Analysis:

http://newsusa.myfeedportal.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=83

Basically, Obama has the vote of seemingly all segments of the internet. Now also including the ever important "social bookmarking" sites, based on this new analysis. Amazingly, the demographics of these sites is far from teeners...

One out for Clinton- win PA by 20+ points... She needs that, big-time.

nromero --

Barry's proven again and again his judgement is lousy.

The most visible example was choosing Rev. Wright as his "spiritual advisor" and going to his racist church for 20 years.

But it goes all the way back to when Barry was a young man and he decided to try "hard drugs"

That shows a total lack of judgement.

His association with Rezko is another example.

The one that got me posting here is that he let the people who voted him into office in Chicago freeze, and some of them died.

Do your research.

Barry's bad news.

He only cares about himself, power, and money.

He uses people like tissues.

They're just objects to him.

I read Mr. Briezinski's Opinion in tomorrow's Washington Post in which he takes the reader to a step by step way of disengaging from Iraq and I wholeheartedly agree with his views. One thing that made me uncomfortable reading his article was his declaration that he is an Obama supporter. A man with such great intellect and judgement, he should be aware that Mr. Obama, via his long association with his controversial pastor Wright, will be something that will fuel the Republicans to portray Mr. Obama in very negative terms.One such talk is that they will question the status of his father while in America, and bring in a Constitutional question whether a President of the United States can be the product of questionable citizenship. It will be another Swiftboating incident that may derail his candidancy like it did to Sen. Kerry. I believe that the Superdelegates should be aware of these possibilities and not give the Presidency to the Republicans.

I like long movies but not when the loser lies, cheats and threatens people in order to try to win. Hillary supporters know she signed an agreement to abide by the DNC rules of Michigan and Florida. She is blaming it all on Obama who has said he will do what the DNC wants.Now Hillary's richest donors are threatening the super delegates if they don't go for Hillary. Don't these people believe in Democracy? Hillary will stay in if it means tearing apart and breaking the back of the Democrats. Hillary cares only about money, power and Hillary.

Calling Clinton to quit when Obama also does not have the required delegates shows that:

1. there is a conscious effort to discriminate against her
2. there is a conscious to fix the nomination by giving it to Obama.

This will make his nomination illegitimate and un-earned.

Who would want to stick with a party with this kind of unethical and un-democratic behavior.

ajtiger92,
I have no idea what you've been smoking but your scenario of Senator Clinton's motives and aspirations are beyond belief. I understand people questioning politicians' motives but you need to slow down and get a reality check.

Obama Supporters --

People like "martin" tell you "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"

Pay attention to all the information you can get about a candidate.

That's how you make informed decisions.

Before you send any more of your, or your parent's, hard earned money to Barry Obama --

Please Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from Channel 5, Chicago's most respected TV news program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8&feature=related

How do you explain away the fact that Barry Obama never followed up on the 11 slums that his friend Rezko was supposed to repair in Obama's district in Chicago, and continued to do nothing about the 40 slums that Rezko was supposed to repair or replace in Chicago, even after Obama joined the US Senate?

From the Chicago Sun Times:

For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.

It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.

But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....

The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''

Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....

Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.

Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

* Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

* Six buildings are currently boarded up.

* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

* At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

You can't argue with the delegate count.

(Numbers don't lie; Clinton operatives do that.)

More and more, Americans are rejecting and renouncing Hillary Clinton's candidacy.

Integrity counts.

Individual responsibility is the key to government accountability.

Let's restore integrity to the Democratic Party and sanity to the country.

That means staying the course with Barack Obama.

If Obama's guaranteed to lose the national electon, it would be foolish for Democrats to nominate him, regardless of what the current vote totals are.

The more we find out about Obama, the more we find that his "accomplishments" aren't his at all, but that he was given credit for the work done by others to make him look far more impressive than he actually is.

Obama is like a "Potemkin Village"

He looks good on the surface, but there's nothing behind it.

He's spent his entire political career running for office, and strong-arming people into putting his name on bills he never even did any work on.

The WP says so themselves in their recent article.

The NYT says "big image, little results"

All this will come out before the general election.

As will the truth about how his negligence led to people who voted for him freezing in slums in his district that Rezko, and in the rest of Chicago, that Rezko got $100M to repair, but never touched.

He can't win the general election.

But he can cause Democrats to lose it.

Everyone interested in the Presidential election should read the article that there's a link to at the bottom of this message.

Its from a Chicago reporter who's known Obama since the beginning of his career and has followed Obama's career ever since then.

The take-home message is that Obama is a total fraud, a manufactured product of the chicago politicial machine.

It tells about him stealing credit for bills he never worked when he was in Chicago, just like he did in Washington.

It talks about "Obama's Slums" and fact that Barry didn't care one bit about the people who elected him.

Its about the fact that Chicago Barry Obama is the one of the most clever con-men in the world and the biggest fraud that's been put over on the American public since Bush.

Its filled with facts about Obama from someone who has known him for years.

The title's cute. Obama isn't. He's a fraud.

http://news.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/

Mental Health Quarantine:

SVREADER and A_BIGNONE,

serial prevaricators,

are at it again.

Don't read their posts;

don't respond to them.

Their toxic touch is meant to make you believe that up is down,

and right is left,

and that Hillary is sincere and eschews heavy-handedness.

(Ask Nancy Pelosi about that.)

Their libels against Barack Obama are frequently mixed with their claim that their heroine Hillary--of Bosnia fame--is thinking of taking the Democratic frontrunner as her running mate.

If you expect consistency in their screeds, think again.

They are pantywaist shock jocks;

about as highbrow in their literary "style" as Jerry Springer,

and about as endearing as Paris Hilton.

CAVEAT EMPTOR

As an Obama supporter, I say if Hillary wants to stay in the race till June 3rd I say let her, as long as her campaign stops the negative attacking of Obama and other fellow Democrats and as long as she and Bill stop praising McCain.

Sticking to the issues and being honest, open and transparent are what really matters to the voters.

After watching MSNBC I see what Hillary may be planning. Hillary wants to be the 2008 nominee but realizes she has little chance of overtaking Obama in the pledged delegates count or contests won. If Hillary wins the most total popular votes due the remaining 10 contests, Hillary will use that as her case for being the nominee. If it works she is the nominee.

However if she is not the nominee she will sprinkle in that if Michigan and Florida results had counted she would be the nominee. She will keep that argument alive as close as she can till the August Convention. If the superdelegates opt for Obama, Hillary will drop out just prior to the August Convention with the hope of two things: (1) Causing enough dissatisfaction within the Democratic electorate over Obama and (2) push up her credentials to run for New York Governor.

Hillary plans to either stay in the Senate to finish out her term or run for New York Governor. If the current Governor Paterson is unable to finish Elliot Spitzer's term due to some public scandal of Paterson, then Hillary would run for office. Why you say? Because Hillary will damage Obama enough to lose to McCain knowing McCain at 72 years of age will probably not seek re-election, leaving Hillary opened to run again in 2012 but having executive experience as New York Governor at the age of 64.

Hillary understands that if Obama proves to be a good and popular president, she will not be able to run again for President till she is 68 years of age which will be too old.

I would like Hillary to drop out but if she wants to go on, that's fine too. This gives Obama's staff a lot of practice for the general election against McCain.

I don't think this is going to go beyond NC and IN. Hillary's campaign is running on fumes and she's eventually going to run out of gas. Hopefully, she's unite behind Obama once this is all over.

If not, well, then we'll know what the Clinton's are all about.

The nomination process should continue. Nancy Pelosi is not the the Democrat's version of the "Decider". There is a reason for the nominating process---if there is another "Reverend Wright" or worse to come, hopefully it will surface prior to facing John McCain. I will vote for and support Senator Obama but I believe Senator Clinton has the right to continue the process.

I find the continued sniping between Clinton and Obama supporters disheartening. I favor Obama with his gifts of intelligence and character, but I will gladly vote for Clinton is she is nominated. We should never forget that our obligation as citizens is to no candidate, but to the 300 million Americans whose lives will be profoundly affected by the election results from a McCain victory as opposed to an Obama or Clinton presidency. Our allegiance must be to those millions, and if that means voting for an imperfect human being, so be it. When a perfect human comes along, then it will time to change our minds. I would not be candid if I did not state my desire for Hillary Clinton to withdraw at this point, but that is not because she is unqualified. Rather, she now has little chance to win the presidency, but could still ruin Obama's chances.

Fred Moolten

We need to count all the votes.

Obama proves he's just another slick politician, and far less ethical than most, whenever the rubber meets the road.

He chose Rev. Wright as his "spiritual advisor" and went to his racist church for 20 years.

He let the people who put him into office in Chicago freeze in slums in his district that were supposed to be repaired or replaced as part of a $100M contract his buddy and campaign contributor Rezko got but Obama never bothered to look out for his voters by checking up on the work.

Barry Obama is a slick Chicago politician who only cares about money and power.

His image is as fake as Bush's was.

Ohhh, Good "Nancy Pelosi"! ;~)

When Hillary says:
"I believe strongly that everyone should have their voices heard and their votes counted"

She really means:
Everyone who'll vote for me should have a chance to have their votes counted.

When Hillary says:
"That includes Michigan and Florida."

She really means:
Everyone who'll vote for me should have a chance to have their votes counted.

When Hillary says:
"I believe that a spirited contest is good for the Democratic Party"

She really means:
What's good for Hillary Clinton is good for the Democratic Party.

For a Hillary Jargon Lexicon, please go to:
www.Americans-Away-From-Home.com

Carole
www.Americans-Away-From-Home.com

We McCain supporters want the Itchy and Scratchy show to be extended until August.

Fight fight fight, Hillary.

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