The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

For the record, Sen. Obama himself has now said that Sen. Patrick Leahy's call for Clinton to leave the race was premature, declaring that Clinton had a right to stay in the race as long as she wanted.

"Yeah. I hadn't talked to Pat about it," Obama said when asked about Leahy's comments and if it was a premature move on the part of his surrogates.

"My attitude is that Sen. Clinton can run as long as she wants. Her name is on the ballot. And she is a fierce and formidable competitor, and she obviously believes that she would make the best nominee and the best opponent," he said. "I think that you know she should be able to compete and her supporters should be able to support her for as long as they are willing or able."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/30/842094.aspx

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith...

WHAT REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT BELIEVES
News Type: Opinion -- Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
us-news, election, obama, clinton, race, wright
dugan49
When Jeremiah Wright got into a spitting contest with right wing TV host Sean Hannity last year, he at one point refused to answer Hannity's badgering questions and kept asking Hannity "Have you read James Cone, what do you know about black theology? Have you read Cone? Have you read Cone?Have you read Cone?"
James Cone is one of he founders, some say the founder, of Black Liberation Theology. Rev. Jeremiah Wright's ministry, his beliefs about America, and about life itself are formed by his attraction to and acceptance of the writings of James Cone.
Let's look at some quotes from James Cone.
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"The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people."
"All white men are responsible for white oppression. "
"Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man 'the devil.'"
"Any advice from whites to blacks on how to deal with white oppression is automatically under suspicion as a clever device to further enslavement."
"Black suffering is getting worse, not better. . . . White supremacy is so clever and evasive that we can hardly name it." (2004)
" Jesus Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants."
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."
"The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."
"What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. "

This is what I don't understand: Hillary Clinton states that thousands of voters will be "disenfranchised" if the Florida and Michigan votes aren't counted. Since WHEN did she care about disenfranchised voters? She would be THRILLED to wrestle the nomination out of Obama's hands by swaying superdelegates or even PLEDGED delegates to change their minds and vote for her. She needs to make up her mind as to how she really wants it to be. Are we going to protect the rights of the voters? Or is it really all about her? The woman doesn't have a lick of integrity.

The funny thing is that the media is the one KEEPING this race alive, not trying to kill it. The only "killing" going on in the media is in their pocketbooks -- this primary has been pure gold to them.

Just think of it this way: if the roles were reversed, Obama would have been forcefully kicked out by now if he didn't leave willingly. Because Clinton is supposedly a "fighter", she is somehow expected to overcome an insurmountable lead. Well, the fact is the only way she can do that is to go more negative than she has ever gone before, alienate Democratic voters, and lose the general election. This isn't about the American people, it's about Hillary Clinton's ego -- if she really cared, she would do what's best for the party.

It's obvious that Leahy is right on the money. Hillary needs to get a dose of reality and realize that she cannot win.

She then needs to get something she's never had: consideration for something other than her own self interest. She needs to realize she's hurting the Democratic Party, and its chances of winning in November.

Then she simply needs to GO AWAY, and SOON.

Why Obama has big ears?
Because he is a liar..!
His big ears comes from his mother's white side.
He is a lawyer too.We know that lawyer or liar cannot get through the doors of heaven,the same like camel cannot get through needle ear.
MY FRIENDS HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT A HUCKABEE!HILLARY NEVER QUITS.!!

OBAMA LIES IN PENNSYLVANIA ADS:
From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
GREENBURG, Pa. -- The Clinton campaign today accused the Obama campaign of "false advertising," claiming that a recent ad Obama released in Pennsylvania was disngenous because Obama has been the recipient of more than $200,000 from the oil and gas industry.
In the ad, Obama says, "I'm Barack Obama, and I don't take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won't let them block change any more."
Obama has taken $213,884 from the oil and gas industry as of Feb. 29th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Sen. Hillary Clinton has taken $306,813 in that same period.
Two of Obama's campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per a list released on his campaign Web site.
Robert Cavnar, listed as a bundler who has raised between $50,000 to $100,000 for the campaign, is the chairman and CEO of Mission Resources Corp., a Houston-based firm. George Kaiser, also listed in the same $50,000 to $100,000 category, is the CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Company.
"It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. "Senator Obama says he doesn't take campaign contributions from oil companies but the reality is that Exxon, Shell, and others are among his donors."
http://tinyurl.com/2on6dr

Well unless Hillary gets the nomination, after all the smear, bait and switch lies and games Obama has used, even stooping to calling the Clintons racist? I am DONE with the Democrats after this and many years as a fighter for this party. I will vote for Nader in November if Obama wins this nomination. Obama and his sleazy supporters will never represent me and the Democratic values I was raised with. Today's Democrats are useless, clueless, back stabbing, unappreciative, disorganized FOOLS who have vilified the Clintons, our proudest and most successful party representatives. It is time to disassociate with these idiots supporting Obama and the biased Democrat "leaders" running our party into the ground. OBAMA started all the infighting among Dems in '07 and his preacher / mentor is a RACIST!! I AM DONE WITH THIS UNETHICAL CUT THROAT PARTY. GO HILLARY!! ALL THE WAY!! DO NOT BACK DOWN!!

Hurrah for BUDDY 2 a Floridian who honestly stated that their votes should not count because they were told prior that they wouldn't. How can anyone WIN A RACE by RUNNING ALONE? You Hillary fans better get your facts straight---and oh yes, I am an "old" white woman and the pundits are wrong----I am an OBAMA supporter. I believe that Hillary has been running for president ever since she became first lady. Do you all remember her insistance with reporters that the name RODHAM be used at all times? She is in this for herself----a dream she's had forever. She wants to make history for the Clinton dynasty. She couldn't get the health reform done because she couldn't work well with her commitee----her way or no way. That's also the way she's been running her campaign---if she can't select people now with whom she can work well with ---what do you expect from her if she would make president? Her ego will not let her quit----Helsy

** Hillary's negatives are still much higher than Obama's or McCain's. She can't
** beat either one.
** Posted by: zb95

You might be right. But how are we going to reliably judge Hillary & Obama's relative strengths without considering the VOTERS in FL & MI? Those are big swing states.

Leahy's comments are certain to backfire.

Clinton lives to be the comeback kid.

Voters always react negatively to arrogant politicians. And a Senator declaring that the remaining voters don't need to be heard from is nothing if not arrogant.

THOMAS GIMBLE, Acting Inspector General, Department of Defense: We found that the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy developed, produced and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on Iraq and al-Qaida relations, which included conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community, and these were presented to senior decision-makers.

While such actions are not illegal or unauthorized, the actions, in our opinion, were inappropriate, given that all the products did not clearly show the variance with the consensus of the intel community and, in some cases, were shown as intel products.

Feith is scum, and a treasonous pig. He and Wolfowitz misled the intelligence community to give

bush and his merry band of theives a cover story for stealing IRAQs oil......period.

funny thing is, Israel is even more out in the cold before this drek occured....

ISRAEL, does not support Douglas Feith....right now in ISRAEL, the majority are against the destruction of the Palestinian community and the denial of rights to them....

in fact ISRAEL, internally looks like the United States in it's voting....about 27 PerCENT feel that

the zionists are right....the MAJORITY over 70 PERCENT want peace and autonomy for Palestinians....

the neo conservatives are destroying ISRAEL and have interfered with the United States' destiny...aiding and abetting common criminals

bush family and friends, who were and have been colluding with

SAUDI ARABIA, UAE, KUWIAT, TURKEY and others to defraud and steal from the peoples of

IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN

while claiming to fight terrorism....bush and cronies are the terrorists and deserve a fair trial followed by a quick march out to a wall where they can be shot to death for treason,

if found guilty....good luck eh?

.do it.

. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS INDEEEEEEEEEEEEEED !!!!!!! .

.

you're not going to get a balanced, civil debate

when the CIA is involved.

READ THIS BOOK on NATIONS BREAKING...

you're living in one...

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man:

How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

JOHN PERKINS: Basically what we were trained to do and what our job is to do is to build up the American empire. To bring--to create situations where as many resources as possible flow into this country, to our corporations, and our government, and in fact we've been very successful. We've built the largest empire in the history of the world. It's been done over the last 50 years since World War II with very little military might, actually. It's only in rare instances like Iraq where the military comes in as a last resort. This empire, unlike any other in the history of the world, has been built primarily through economic manipulation, through cheating, through fraud, through seducing people into our way of life, through the economic hit men. I was very much a part of that.

ps. calvin m. willis is actually a parolee being paid to post under a pseudonym, thus the disparity between his though process and honesty

..pity him, don't mock him

.

Now if you guys did all that work digging up false information on Obama, then I KNOW you already have all the real dirt on Hillary, which leaves me to believe that if you aren't idiots, then your character is should be called into question, since you're willing to ignore more obvious signs of your candidate's flaws, morality, and politically just so you can tear down a properly run campaign. Shaking my head at you.

What jerks.

Won't let me post a link.

If you go to NY Times website and insert this at the end...

/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html

you're not going to get a balanced, civil debate

when the CIA is involved.

READ THIS BOOK on NATIONS BREAKING...

you're living in one...

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man:

How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

We speak with John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man he describes how as a highly paid professional, he helped the U.S. cheat poor countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars by lending them more money than they could possibly repay and then take over their economies.

John Perkins describes himself as a former economic hit man-a highly paid professional who cheated countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars.

20 years ago Perkins began writing a book with the working title, "Conscience of an Economic Hit Men."

Perkins writes, "The book was to be dedicated to the presidents of

two countries, men who had been his clients whom I respected and thought of as kindred spirits-

Jaime Roldós, president of ECUADOR, and

Omar Torrijos, president of PANAMA.

Both had just died in fiery crashes. Their deaths were not accidental. They were assassinated because they opposed that fraternity of corporate, government, and banking heads whose goal is global empire. With no Nationalized OIL. We Economic Hit Men failed to bring Roldós and Torrijos around, and the other type of hit men, the CIA-sanctioned jackals who were always right behind us, stepped in.

John Perkins goes on to write: "I was persuaded to stop writing that book. I started it four more times during the next twenty years. On each occasion, my decision to begin again was influenced by current world events: the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1980, the first Gulf War, Somalia, and the rise of Osama bin Laden. However, threats or bribes always convinced me to stop."

_________________________________________________

read how the media is used to control the electoral process, and bribes and coercion...

who took the Duke Cunninghams' spot in California ????

A Republican? Yes. Was that the will of the people.....we'll never know, the republicans spent 15 times more than has ever been spent in a single district to get a Republican elected, and George W. Bush and THEDICKcheeenie each taped a special message delivered to each and every REPULSIVE SCAMMER to get out there and make sure that the AMERICAN PEOPLE DID NOT RECEIVE THE MESSAGE THAT "CORRUPTION WASN'T COOL," because they didn't want people to think that they could change things...

sorry folks, we're going to hand you your A**es in '08

and destroy your party.

NAZIS...

Obama's Illinois legislative record.

It's her Party and she'll cry if she wants to!

I don't think it's a coincidence that Obama wins the Republican states, spends money like a Republican, is favored by so many Republicans, and even sounds like his pal McCain most of the time. Maybe if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck...

The comments by intcamd1 make me very afraid for the Democratic Party...and for our nation as a whole.

If you want to be inspired watch Bill Moyer's Journal on The Kerner Commission Report of 1968/and an interview with a hugely inspirational man, Cory Booker...the Mayor of Newark, NJ...a man who truly 'gets it'...

calvin.m.willis

Coming from a Obama turd, your rant is pathetic.

The Obama fan buffoons are worse than neanderthals. You are, like your super sainted hero, still high from whatever, and have lost your senses. You think a man with no experience, no specific skills, no accomplishments other than fooling the whole bunch of you (which is easy, since you are all obviously stoned), will somehow the lot of you.

WHat can improve your fate in life is if you enroll in some rehab. The rest of us need a real leader, not some empty suit who discovered he won the lottery and suddenly woke up in the white house.

jrw2 -

As a Clinton supporter, I am not so sure that the real enemy is the repugnant Rethugs anymore.

IN the last few months, I believe I have a new perspective on the media, some of the journalists I used to like but now will spit on if I ever I see them in person, a whole bunch of democratic politicians, and of course the posters who claim to be Obama supporters on these boards (who knows what their true persuasion might be).

All of these people truly disgust me, and I am now thinking how I could have stayed in the same tent with these scum. As far as I am concerned, the large movement behind Obama is the true enemy.

All I have to say, is that
Hillary supporters (at least the ones here and on forums I've been to) are logically irrational.

You give them facts, they ignore em'.
They give you facts and you refute them, they call you brainwashed.

They believe in the right to vote, but only if you're voting for Hillary.

They praise and revel in the power of superdelegates, but only if they're sponsoring Hillary.

They have some sort of complex, where they feel the majority is crazy, and they're the only sane ones.

They follow the MSM with great diligence, but can't seem to recall the media ever attacking any candidate other than Hillary.

I don't know what to say.
You guys need some help.

I'm going to go so far as make a bold prediction that Pennsylvania will be a LOT tighter in the upcoming weeks. So much so that Clinton will have to exit or wait until afterwards to exit because it wasn't the blowout she had been promising. Things already seem to be trending in that direction and Obama hasn't even started campaigning yet there in that state.

Unfortunately, that's what it will take for her to get out -- since she refuses to exit out gracefully. Doesn't she realize how much respect she'd actually get if she did bow out? The longer she pushes this thing, the more she does look like Mike Huckabee despite it being closer, she still can't win it.

HIllary Clinton should drop out of the race for the good of the party. She's mucking up the Democrats chances in November. All Hillary supporters please encourage your candidate to drop out. She can be governer of New York. Wouldn't that be nice?

The Media should withdraw from all the commentary and just let the voters see the candidates (unedited) on the stump through the rest of the states that have to vote; or would you rather it be like Florida in 2000 when the Supreme Court stopped the counting and anointed the worst President in history; or would you rather it be like 2004 when the Democrats rushed John Kerry's nomination through and we watched him get eaten alive. All the voters have a right to vote before the final decision is made. Florida and Michigan should be a do over. The Superdelegates should vote for whomever they want without being pressured. So be it if goes on longer, at least when it is over, the one left standing will be the true winner and representative of the Democratic party. Stop with all the BS, this is America where democracy prevails, I thought.

Beth24, honey, I'm glad to hear you'll vote Republican (since you want to vote form over substance) if HRC gets the Dem. nomination, because that will mean MCCAIN IN A LANDSLIDE, EITHER THROUGH MY PROTEST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA OR OTHERWISE. And I'm perfectly okay with a McCain presidency: BECAUSE IT MEANS I'LL NEVER HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ARROGANT, RACIST-LOVING OPPORTUNIST OBAMA RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.

I have no objection for two civilised campaigns to stay in the primary race...but, lets demand a little higher tone...discuss the issues, point out where they differ...have real plans...and attack the GOP on two fronts at once.

I rarely hear who has been responsible for the massive debt this country is in. Reagan, mister balanced budget...never submitted one, took the country from 700 billion in debt, to 4 trillions of dollars in debt...while enacting the largest tax increase on the middle class ever...doubling the social security tax in order to take it from a pay as you go, to pay as you go AND create a trust fund for the boomer generation...then Greenspan advised Reagan to mask his deficit spending by raiding the trust fund...saying, borrowing from ourselves isn't really borrowing...wham-o, look where that's got us. Bush I continued the raid and increased the debt more...Clinton continued the raid, but brought the debt under control with the aid of Newt Gingrich's gang...but NAFTA, the WTO, and our dependence on foreign oil has been taking our balance of trade deficit ever higher...when it had been a trade surplus in 1991. Now GW Bush...has skewed the numbers against us on all fronts...massive imbalance in trade...a shrinking dollar which isn't even increasing tourism in the USA...and a debt which doesn't even count Iraq and Afghanistan...we're 10 trillions iin the hole...and with promises made, and monies stolen...some economists say our actual debt is 40 trillions.

More war? More debt? A depression? What then, a civil war with multiple sides...?

Let's get civilised and civil, without the war. Rancor is over, please.

We need real solutions to real time problems. This isn't just a little tweaking that needs be done. Energy, transportation, population, immigration, food, water, infrastructure...stature in the world. It ain't pretty. We need to roll up our collective sleeves. We need some good garbage collectors to clean up the mess we're in. Some real technocrats...some real leadership.

Thanks Planner:

Please post the link as well re: oil company money and Obama. thx.

I had respect for Leahy until this comment. I am a Republican who supports Hillary after voting for Reagan-84 Bush-88 Clinton-92 Perot-96 Gore-00 and Kerry-04. Hillary will do what is right not what is popular. A normal political convention is all about wheeling and dealing on the floor and that is what democracy is all about. I was for McCain in 00 but not this time after seeing him support Bush he is not right for us.

The voters want to see this primary play out to the convention. Leahy is getting old, senile and maybe worried that Hillary will win the nomination. The man crushes these old white far left liberals in the Senate have for Obama is funny.

If they think Florida and Michegan have hard feelings, just try and see what kind of hard feelings you have when you try to force either of these candidates out of this race before the last contests are held. People have place their money on these two folks and when you have jerks like Pilosi and Leahy (who have reached the pinnacle of all they will ever be) trying to influence the voters using their supposed positions of influence, that is where you will begin to see the party self-destruct. Everybody can respect a good, honest fight between candidates. It's when the onlookers and outsiders start trying to get glory by sticking in their two cents to generate headlines that things start getting ugly. How about them NOT going on the talk shows to express opinions best left unspoken? Who the hell are these to yo-yos that they think anybody outside of Washington gives a twinkie about their personal preference for Obama? Like, NOT!

What's the deal guys? Have we relocated to China?

Please let us not have the columnists, who concerted in pushing Senator Clinton off the trail and do the king-making act. Let us not have the power brokers in the Democratic Party say the race is over and do the king-making act. Obama's has not won. But if the dem's powerful ones act like the Supreme Court on GWB's presidency,cutting short the process, anoint Obama out right, premature of the primary, then, they better be ready to bare the consequences.

Truly folks, the only withdrawing that should be going on is Leahy's lips from Obama's arse hole. These Obama pond scum suckers sure seem desperate to get Hillary out before other Americans get to vote and possibly show that Obama is no longer electable. If that is the case, all their whining won't help. Let democracy go forward! Vote Democrats, vote!

balancing_stones: No one is saying that Judicial Watch is perfect, but they went after both Hillary and Obama. Hillary has released the 11,000 pages which they requested, Obama is saying that he doesn't have, or can't find any of the records of his 8 year stint in the Illinois state senate. Now come on, if it were Hillary making such a lame excuse, you would be all over her. Let's be fair.

I see the Obamants, Obamarobots, Chauvins for Obama, and Cult of Obama members are in their usual vicious form. Ultra left swift boaters!

Attack Hillary. The worsst the lies the better. Doesn't Hillary know Obama is the second coming? Just ask him!

But I say give Obama the nomination so he can tank big time in November! No ultra liberal Deomocrat has ever been elected president, and Obama will not be the first. Obama, the McGivern of 2008!

When he tanks will you Obamanuts, Obamabots, Cultists and chauvins please drink the Kool Aid, so a Democrat will be able to win in 2012?

From Think Progress

Judicial Watch Smears Judge Who Ruled Warrantless Wiretapping Is Illegal, Media Takes The Bait»

Last week, Judge Anna Diggs Taylor ruled that President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program was unconstitutional. Subsquently, Taylor was attacked by the conservative group Judicial Watch which claimed that she had a "conflict of interest" because she "serves as a Secretary and Trustee for a foundation that donated funds to the ACLU of Michigan, a plaintiff in the case."

Judicial Watch's allegation has garnered extensive media coverage. It's a bogus charge. Here are the facts:

- Over the last two years the Community Foundation for Southeastern Michigan has donated about $50 million to charitable causes. Its $45,000 in grants to the ACLU represents just .09% of their total giving.

- The money to the ACLU had nothing to do with their activities relating to this litigation or government surveillance. The grant funded "a gay rights project."

- Judge Taylor is one of 50 community members on the foundation's board. It wasn't a personal decision by Judge Taylor.

None of this information was disclosed by Judicial Watch. Once you know the facts, there is not a "reasonable question about [her] impartiality" based on the foundation's activities. That hasn't stopped the media (or the blogosphere) from breathlessly reporting the "story."
***
Judicial Watch is not an impartial party.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race... Several sources in her own camp admit that she has virtually no chance of winning the nomination except if she succeeds in finding James Hoffa's body and moving it in Obama's flower garden to put the blame on him.

Since there is little chance for the body to be found, she makes all these negative assertions. The goal seems to be the 2012 election. By putting enough doubts on Obama, Hillary is hoping that he will lose to McCain and that she or Chelsea (who is also an experienced leader after her journey at the White House mansion) will be able to run in 2012. The Clintons might then be able to capitalize again with the rental of the Lincoln Bedroom to big lobbyists.

Whatever happens, since the Judas story with Richardson, we know that Hillary believes in ressurection; she or her husband Bill would be Jesus if I understood correctly the story. So, we can assume that Hillary will not hesitate to play the kamikaze with this election or the next one since she will probably reborn again, as the savior.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race before she hurts herself or others.

UNLISTED

You are bleeping moron. I have to ask if you are a true democrat or are a right wing scum bag posing here as an Obama fan. The fact is that, Obama is ahead of Clinton by a few hundred thousand votes (of more than 25 mil), and would really be tied if FL is counted and after PA votes; since Obama boasts of receiving a lot of crossover independent and Rpublican support, Clinton is really leading in traditional democratic vote so far, which means, statistically, if you are an Obama supporter, you are less likely to be a traditional democrat - that includes you, scum bag.

Judicial Watch: Obama 'intended to leave no paper trail'
By Klaus Marre
Posted: 03/26/08 01:01 PM [ET]
The president of a prominent watchdog group said Wednesday that he believes Democratic presidential frontrunner Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) "intended to leave no paper trail" during his time in the Illinois Senate.

Judicial Watch, which has been seeking access to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-N.Y.) records from her time in the White House, argued Wednesday that the Illinois senator, who has criticized the former first lady for a lack of openness, has his own "records problem."

"The more we learn about the Illinois Senator, the more obvious it becomes that he is anything but the ethically upright outsider he purports to be," said Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch.

The group rose to prominence when it repeatedly took on former President Bill Clinton during his time in office. It also sought records from the Bush administration regarding Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force.

In a statement, Fitton noted that his group has sought access to Obama's records as a state senator and questioned whether the presidential candidate has been forthcoming with regard to what happened to those documents.

He said that "nobody knows where they are, if they exist at all" and claimed that "Obama's story keeps changing."

Bill Clinton was the best Republican President since Eisenhower...he passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996...he passed NAFTA...

The DLC is the corporate wing of the Democratic Party...Hillary and Bill are big players in the DLC...Obama is not even a member. When he was told several years ago that the DLC was listing him as a member, he contacted them and told them in no uncertain terms to remove his name from their organisation.

There has been a steady decline in this country since Reagan's election...Clinton continued the steady stream in the erosion of rights, and support of despots.

I'll support whoever the Democratic Party finally selects in Denver...if only for the supreme court...McBush is a bit much, a little too twitchy on the trigger...

Of course, I'm more of a Gravel man, myself...or Kucinich...or Wellstone, who would have been our candidate in 2004...our military shouldn't be an imperial authority throughout the world.

As Eisenhower warned us, "Beware the Military/Industrial complex"...and their cronies.

And when are we going to impeach Bush/Cheney, btw? Bush has bought a hundred thousand acres in Paraguay...who would not extradite him to the USA once he's there. Of course, Halliburton's headquarters are now in Dubai.

Celeste: Did you read my post above about Obama's lies regarding contributions from the oil companies? What is really galling about this is that Hillary mischaracterizes her landing in Bosnia, and it is front page news for days. Obama has the "audacity" to lie right in his commercial in Pennsylvania, which I'm sure will be playing day and night, and I'll bet the coverage of this important lie will be nil. This shows me that its all the more important that we fight for Hillary. If the powers that be are lined up behind Obama, he cannot be good for us; that's not the way these things work.

what happened to Karl Rove ???

hey Karl, stand and deliver.

oh,

here's that a major teddy article I was looking for:

Voice of the White House February 28, 2005
TBR News.org February 28, 2005

"An absolute non-issue with the American print and TV media is the control by very powerful gays of the top policy levels of the White House. Growingly pointed comments inside the Beltway social clubs, homes and watering places about Karl Rove's "good friend" 'Jeff Gannon' are being very thoroughly ignored by the mainline press.

There are two reasons for this crashing silence. One is the fact that a large number of powerful and wealthy Republicans are gay and do not want their wives and children to discover that they put on leather underwear and spend their spare time at the Eagle over on New York Avenue or getting rough trade action at the Crew Club. Fat Karl Rove was seen by one of my people entering a private homosexual orgy at a five-star Washington hotel over the Mid-Atlantic Leather (MAL) weekend last year. All the self-hating loyal Republican gays at the no-pants party, many of them Senatorial aides and military types, of course pretended they didn't recognize him, and who can blame them - imagine how repulsive Fat Karl must look without his clothes. The report that came back was that Fat Karl greatly enjoyed the supervision of a certain hairy 350-lb.

Leather Dominator, who had won the

Miss Virginia Daddy Bear

title at the MAL festivities.

Karl used hang out at JR's, which is on 17th between P&S, before he became so well-known. This is a "respectable" gay bar for discreet people who do not wear mesh panties, high-heeled pumps and wear terrible wigs. How many people know about these activities? In Washington, a hell of a lot of the prominent. But very few of them dare to open their mouths because of their own small problems.

.small problems.

Obama Accuses Clinton of Deception ?????

tax records???? wow is it APRIL 15th already...this is serious, I've lost a whole month...FOAD

how about let's look at the books for

Halliburton
Bechtel
KBR
DynCorp
Blackwater
Carlyle Group????

you repulsive scammers posing as democrats

it won't happen if you don't elect Hillary, 'cause the bama saying it don't mattah

terry.santiago

Have you noticed now that the facts are coming out about Obama, he is no longer being called the "likable" candidate?

How about some answers on those lies Obama told? Brian made an effort about his parents and Selma...why don't you try?

fluent in Indonesian...typo

I wouldn't know if you're correct about censoring.

What I do know is that, there has been a male prostitute in the White House for over 2 years.

And not a single mention, even though the President by fraud used HOMOPHOBIA as an election tool.

Spitzer used prostitution as an "elect me issue," and the

WASHINGTON POST,

takes up 3 days covering it.

I would think the thought of George Bush on his knees with Guckert, whose picture you can see online nekkid, would send thrills of

BIG EXPOSE' shooting up the spines of AMERICA's newspaper people,

but no, they've been suspiciously silent...even though it's a well known fact that George W. Bush spent

4 years of High School, at an all boys school being a cheerleader, as well as all of his College years, and in his time at college he was also known for his roomate Victor Ashe and he spending quite a bit of time in the showers together...

but Bill Clinton is BIG NEWS along with Spitzer...

Larry Craig, hosing people in the mens' rooms of Minnesota airports, 'its okay with the newspeople....

doesn't make sense, although I do know that Rupert Murdoch made a big bid to take over the MSM channels....

certainly one watching correspondents covering the Democratic nomination all seem to be receiving doctored feeds...

like the DVD's sent out during Kerry's run for President...LIVE FOOTAGE OF THE !!! WAR !!!

from Iraq, even if it was less sensational as far as deaths were concerned than Detroit, or St. Louis

brian

Was his lie about being fluent in Indonesia symbolic also? Or his so called professorship? Or the phony Life/Ebony magazine article that he says influenced his racial awakening. And so it goes. I'm sorry Brian....Really.

You really seem to be invested in Obama, just as those other stupid people who backed George W. Hopeless. And I have to struggle with you and this web site.

Obama is a lier, fraud, and slimy. Now he says he would have left the church if wright had not retired. Contradicts himself. Instead of rejecting Wright he talks about rejecting the church. Obama, your problem is Wright not the church. Don't you get this .. now you are salivating about beiong president. Just fade away.

OBAMA AT IT AGAIN; FALSE ADVERTISING IN PENNSYLVANIA: From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
GREENBURG, Pa. -- The Clinton campaign today accused the Obama campaign of "false advertising," claiming that a recent ad Obama released in Pennsylvania was disngenous because Obama has been the recipient of more than $200,000 from the oil and gas industry.
In the ad, Obama says, "I'm Barack Obama, and I don't take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won't let them block change any more."
Obama has taken $213,884 from the oil and gas industry as of Feb. 29th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Sen. Hillary Clinton has taken $306,813 in that same period.
Two of Obama's campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per a list released on his campaign Web site.
Robert Cavnar, listed as a bundler who has raised between $50,000 to $100,000 for the campaign, is the chairman and CEO of Mission Resources Corp., a Houston-based firm. George Kaiser, also listed in the same $50,000 to $100,000 category, is the CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Company.
"It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. "Senator Obama says he doesn't take campaign contributions from oil companies but the reality is that Exxon, Shell, and others are among his donors."

Why are Obama supporters afraid of letting this play out if HRC doesn't have a chance? If it's in the bag, Obama can just take a vacation, built his already formidable war chest and be rested and ready for the general election. The dems will only unify behind Obama if they know he earned the nomination through the sanctioned process. I agree with Dean on this one. Leahy is not helping Obama by inserting himself.

coloradog: Hillary didn't have to give anyone Rev. Wright. It is Obama himself who chose to attend a church for 20 years whose pastor, Obama's "mentor and spiritual adviser" Rev. Wright, was racist and anti-American. He did it all by himself.

Given all that we are learning....should by some chance Obama does become the nominee...do you think McCain will "drop out" because he is "hurting" Obama?

Obama can't win; by all we have found out, he is a damaged candidate.

Old man Leahy should think about retiring .. he is getting senile. Hillary is a chance of a life-time president.

why do you keep removing mine? don't you see how that lowers the trust level of your newspaper?

One more time...
Given all we have learned about Obama in the last weeks, not just Wright, but his lies about his community work, his parents meeting for the first time at Selma, his nonexistent professorship, his so called legislative accomplishments, that he supposedly sponsored, but was really someone else's work and on and on.
Lies little and big that have been discovered. Then he says he didn't hear the remarks on those clips shown over and over, then he admits he did hear "some" outrageous remarks and now, because the Wright furor hasn't died down, he says he would have left Trinity if Wright hadn't "retired".

a_bigone: It is awfully coincidental that the corporate media gave Bush a free pass for so long, and now they are doing the same for Obama. I doubt things like that happen by accident. I have noticed, for example, that there are many blogs who will censor you if you post comments critical of Obama (CNN, MSNBC, Huffington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Boston Globe, etc.). Is this a coincidence, or by design . . .

actually,

the neocons have a lot of options.

most of them involve sinking people, in order to get the "preferred candidate," in place...

the preferred candidate would be one that would let them call the shots...

and would't necessarily be democratic or even running right now.

. if Mc Cain disappears Mitt Romney will step in, if o baaaaaaaaaa baaaaaa man cuts a deal

they don't need mc cain .

The only thing the republicans want is

ABC

anyone but clinton.

that's what the republicans want....and they are willing to pay for it

and do anything that they have to to get that to happen.

because she's the worst candidate? no

because she will reverse what they have put in place.

she will give AMERICA back to the people

and funny thing is, it's not a threat

it's a promise. you can take to the bank.

it's your life AMERICA,

you can throw it away for some magic hate beans

or live the life.

What were "the Clintons," big and selfish plans when Bill Clinton was President ????

1. COLLEGE FOR ALL THAT WANTED IT.

2. HEALTHCARE, for everyone.

they sound suspiciously egalitarian, rather than plutocratic to me.

.

Hillary gave Jeff Gannon's fat boy Rove and Rush Limberger their Willie Horton in the form of Rev. Wright.

Hang in there Hillary supporters. It is though especially when the sites remove fact laden posts.

Oh, there you are Karl, thought you were here...

Kevin Schmidt is the pen name.

first of all

__________THERE____IS____NO________WAR____________

there is an occupation to steal another country's resources....

that is ordinarially called an

ANTAGONISTIC OCCUPATION, by enemy troops

to stage a COLONIAL OCCUPATION...

al QUEADA is bushCO and CRONYs...

the "drunk indians," in this particular _ILLEGAL_ action against yet another indigenous peoples...

and besides that bush is paying people to attack US soldiers...

Results 1 - 10 of about 402,000 for bush funding al qeada sunni. (0.27 seconds)

Annals of National Security: The Redirection: Reporting & Essays ...Al Qaeda is Sunni, and many of its operatives came from extremist religious .... Flynt Leverett, a former Bush Administration National Security Council ...
www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/070305fa_fact_hersh -

Think Progress » Blog Archive » Hersh: U.S. Funds Being Secretly ...If covertly funding violent Sunni groups isn't a high crime or misdemeanor, what is? ...... Bush is funding al Qaeda! -

can you say, collusion and treason?????

.

and to o baaaaaaaa man, "this is about the past."

but without understanding who the people running Washington for themselves actually are,

he won't know who to listen to.

Will he listen to just the likable people that don't talk about the past and stroke his ego, agreeing with him as they hide programs and tell him not to worry about this or that...

or will he come in and be decisive without knowing what the truth is because he is going to decide based upon emotion.

Hillary will do what is best for AMERICA starting on day one, whether she's likable or not....

and I agree with Tina Fey, and the SNL crewe from this weekend...

it takes a bee_atch...

you got a problem with that ???

if AL GORE had been one in 2000, she wouldn't have to be one now.

AND THE United States would have IRAQI OIL as an option, because

the IRAQIs _LIKED_US_ wanted to be like us, which is the case for pretty much

all of the world until the little lord georgie [ famous salaami swallower, and pederast ] bush

tanked our rep in the free world.

.

I doubt that endorsements are going to help Obama much at this stage in the game. If one person or another endorses Obama, I doubt that the informed will just ignore the fact that his "mentor and spiritual adviser" for 20 years is a racist and anti-American; ignore his blatant and probably successful attempt to disenfranchise millions of voters in Michigan and Florida to advance his own selfish political ambitions; ignore his association with William Ayers, the founder of the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist group; ignore his lies about his "alleged" continual opposition to the Iraq war; ignore his continual use of the "race card" in this nomination process; ignore his initial denial that any meeting took place between his chief economic adviser and the Canadian official; ignore his changing testimony about his relationship with and monetary support from Rezko; ignore his lie during the debates about a pharmaceutical lobbyist's involvement in his campaign; ignore his lie during the debates about Yucca Mountain; ignore his lie about his former support for a single-pay health plan, etc. No, endorsements don't give one amnesia; and that is what would need to occur for many of us to support Obama.

a big none, are you lost? We're talking about the presidential election in this thread.

who are the people that

JUST HATE HILLARY CLINTON ???

the people that you all hate right now.

Bush CO and CRONYs, they have been running the table on AMERICANS...

convincing them to sell their future for HOMOPHOBIA while the Presidente by FRAUD CHOWS DOWN on salaami and pajama parties at the white house....

sorta like J.Edgar Hoover hated Kennedy, that's the kind of hate that

bushCO and CRONYmeister have towards Hillary....

SEARCH on Victor Ashe, Lips, George W. Bush, Jeff Gannon, Ken Mehlman HEAD OF Republican National Committee, Karl Rove, Jeff Gannon, Trent LOTT, ALL GAY

it's your country, learn how the media only covers the stories that the corporatocracy pays them to.

your reporters are cowards, and paid to be.

.

Now that it's clear that the blowback from Sen. Clinton's negative campaigning has come back to damage HER favorability ratings (now down to 37%) and negatives still up at about 48% I say let her at it. The more she desperately clings to the remaining "possible" roads to the nomination the more it seems to hurt her, the more Barack is tested he is seasoned and comes out looking Presidential. So go at it -- Mrs. Clinton has every right to continue this race as long as it's done fairly -- so if her campaign operative's are really behind the dirty trick robocalls to TX delegates telling them the conventions have been cancelled they should not only be criticized they should be prosecuted (actually, they should be prosecuted no matter who they support!). But have at it Mrs. Clinton -- fight on, spend your money, time and goodwill. Just don't be surprised if the Clinton name is the ultimate loser.

Here's a very good reason for Clintoon to drop out... NO MORE MONEY, HONEY!!!

But the question is, just how broke are the HillBillies?

'Chicago Sun-Times: " To wit: Word is the cash feeding into Hillary Clinton's campaign coffers has not only slowed down in a big way, undisclosed campaign debts that have yet to be made public could signal the end and have insiders biting their nails."'

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/865494,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article

If Hillary's leading fundraisers want to intimidate House Speaker Nancy weak-sister Pelosi, Cheney can show them how easy it is.

NOW | PBS David Brannacio

Save Energy, Money and the Planet
Today, March 28, 2008

Could a new effort to fight global warming save money and create jobs at the same time? NOW looks at a city-wide plan in Cambridge, Massachusetts to make all their buildings more energy efficient. Up to 80% of emissions in many urban cities comes from buildings. Cambridge hopes that this unprecedented effort to "green" its buildings will reduce greenhouse gas emissions by ten percent in just five years, the equivalent of taking 33,000 cars off the road.

If every major city in America took the same approach, it would have a significant impact on the carbon footprint of the U.S. -- and it would generate tens of millions of new "green" jobs. The Cambridge Energy Alliance, a non-profit group, will help clients cut their energy use 15-30%, which translates into a lower utility bill. The Alliance will then help clients secure loans to pay for the building retrofits, loans designed to pay themselves off by the savings on those utility bills. Retrofitting thousands of buildings could also create a new green job market in Cambridge. It's a bold new experiment, but the Alliance hopes to become a national model that puts green thinking on display, as well as more green in people's pockets. Will this entrepreneurial effort bring new converts to the environmental movement?

One thing is obvious from these comments. People either love or hate the Clintons. The one's hating the Clintons have jumped on the Obama band wagon as the Clinton alternative. Humorous reading to say the least.

As a good democrat I could care less which of these two candidates wins the nomination. Either will beat McCain in November and then I can raise a glass of champagne and toast the end of the Bush administration.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race... Several sources in her own camp admit that she has virtually no chance of winning the nomination except if she succeeds in finding James Hoffa's body and moving it in Obama's flower garden to put the blame on him.

Since there is little chance for the body to be found, she makes all these negative assertions. The goal seems to be the 2012 election. By putting enough doubts on Obama, Hillary is hoping that he will lose to McCain and that she or Chelsea (who is also an experienced leader after her journey at the White House mansion) will be able to run in 2012. The Clintons might then be able to capitalize again with the rental of the Lincoln Bedroom to big lobbyists.

Whatever happens, since the Judas story with Richardson, we know that Hillary believes in ressurection; she or her husband Bill would be Jesus if I understood correctly the story. So, we can assume that Hillary will not hesitate to play the kamikaze with this election or the next one since she will probably reborn again, as the savior.

Hillary Clinton needs to begin to prepare her exit from the race before she hurts herself or others.

LOOK AT THE LAST PARAGRAPH...

and DO A SEARCH on

BUSH, Walker, MONEY LAUNDERING

In 1953, Bush got money from Brown Brothers Harriman and, with partners Hugh and Bill Liedtke, formed Zapata Petroleum. By the late 1950s they were millionaires. Bush bought subsidiary Zapata Off-Shore from his partners and went into business on his own in 1954. By 1958, the new company was drilling on the Cay Sal Bank in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico. These islands had been leased to Nixon supporter and CIA contractor Howard Hughes the previous year and were later used as a base for CIA raids on Cuba. The CIA was using companies like Zapata to stage and supply secret missions attacking Fidel Castro's Cuban government in advance of the Bay of Pigs invasion. The CIA's codename for that invasion was "Operation Zapata." In 1981, all Securities and Exchange Commission filings for Zapata Off-Shore between 1960 and 1966 were destroyed. In other words, the year Bush became vice president, important records detailing his years at his drilling company disappeared. In 1969, Zapata bought the United Fruit Company of Boston, another company with strong CIA connections.

In 1964, Bush campaigned against the Civil Rights Act. He lost that election but was elected to Congress in 1966 and again in 1968. He was defeated in the race for Senate by Democrat Lloyd Bentsen in 1970.

He served as Gerald Ford's Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) from November 1975 to January 1977. As head the CIA, Bush was answerable only to President Ford. He was supposedly the first CIA "outsider" to hold the agency's top position. During his tenure as DCI he maintained a policy of disinformation and secrecy, despite a public show of cooperation with congressional investigations of CIA abuses such as assassination plots using Mafia hit men. In September 1976, Chilean dissident leader Orlando Letelier was assassinated in Washington D.C. by agents of DINA, Chile's secret police. The CIA knew of such plots, and the two assassins entered the U.S. using fake Paraguayan passports. But the FBI was kept in the dark about this information.

In 1979, the year before he campaigned for the Republican nomination for president, Bush claimed a nuclear war was winnable. Ronald Reagan won the 1980 nomination and chose Bush as his running mate. As vice president, Bush cast three tie-breaking votes to renew chemical weapons production, supported sale of missiles to "terrorist" Iran and the illegal arming of the Nicaraguan contras and other paramilitary groups he called "freedom fighters.

He also chaired The Presidential Task Force on Deregulation which, according to Mary Fricker in her book Inside Job, "set the tone" for bank deregulation which led to the savings and loan financial disaster of the late 1980's. As well as the terrorists bank BCCI, while President of the United States. In fact his father had a lot of experience with money laundering and collusion with enemies of the state. It's what he taught his son. And there are plenty in Congress RIGHT NOW, with their hands in the till.

interesting....eh!?

WE THE PEOPLE

pay their salaries, and they refuse to do the work that they were hired to do.....

fire them en masse....being a rethuglican is no longer a necessary thing...

Some numbers to contemplate:

(I am NOT figuring in Michigan or Florida, since no one knows how that situation will resolve itself, it it does. If/when we know how that situation will be resolved, a new analysis can be run.)

Using the AP numbers for pledged delegates, and DemConWatch for Superdelegates:

Clinton:
Pledged: 1243
Supers: 246
Subtotal: 1489

Obama:
Pledged: 1412
Supers: 211
Subtotal: 1623

Upcoming primaries, using latest polls (if available, otherwise giving current apparent leader 55% of vote) a ROUGH estimate of delegate distribution:

Note: I've calculated the delegates by using a uniform figure across all Congressional Districts. This will NOT happen, but the delegate count will come close state-wide.

Pennsylvania (Clinton up 12): C - 90, O - 68
Guam (No poll): Clinton - 2, O - 2
Indiana (No poll): C - 38, O - 34
North Carolina (Obama up 15): C - 51, O - 64
West Virginia (No poll): C - 15, O - 13
Kentucky (No poll): C - 28, O - 23
Oregon (No poll): C - 23, O - 29
Puerto Rico (No poll): C - 28, O - 24
South Dakota (No poll): C - 7, O - 8
Montana (No poll): C - 7, O - 9

Estimated subtotal of upcoming primaries:
Clinton - 289, Obama 274

Totals of pledged, declared superdelegates and estimated upcoming primaries:

Clinton - 1778, or 245.5 short of the 2023.5 (currently) needed for the nomination.

Obama - 1897, or 126.5 short of the 2023.5 (currently) needed.

There are now approximately 336 undeclared superdelegates. This means that Obama needs about 38% of the remaining undeclared superdelegates to win the nomination; Clinton needs about 73% of those undeclared delegates to win the nomination.

Some more figures to comtemplate:
On January 31, DemConWatch figured the number of announced superdelegates broke 189 for Clinton, 97 for Obama. At the end of February, the count was 240 for Clinton, 191 for Obama. Currently, the count looks like 246 for Clinton, 211 for Obama. This means that Clinton had a net gain of 57 superdelegates announcing for her during February and March, but Obama had 114 announcing for him in that same period.

oh no, a small mind afraid of being crushed by his own stupidity squeaks like a mouse..

is that you Karl Rove????

dancing fat boy?

They got more - although preacher man has a way with words.

If only he were a crazy blogger.

Latest the church had a Hamas leader write an op-ed in preacher mans news letter. I heard it from the scum suckers at FOX (not 100 percent on the story).

Me no like Hamas - although I feel for the people.

It is over Cultist we can't run a race like this.

Time for Obama to drop out - he slept with dogs in Chicago and sold himself as someone he was not. He is a smart but calculating boneheaded pol with little exp. and it is showing in the last 4 weeks big time.

Calvin,

Nice to hear some sensible thinking. Thanks.

Oh no...a_big drunk is back...everyone put away your thinking caps...here comes the drunken ramblings.

you want to know what we should be doing ???

view the Greg Brannacio show NOW! that describes the energy program that Cambridge Massachusetts is putting in place.

For starters, 25 PERCENT of the population walks to work.

It's an amazing and real answer to what we could do, and how life could be with a simple readjustment that is cost saving and time saving on all levels.

.

Open letter to Howard Dean and the DNC

I think you and Nancy Pelosi are way out of line asking for Hillary to quit. Why don't you quit trying to tip the scale in Obama's favor and let it play out???? For pete's sake it isn't that much to ask given the fact that they are both historic candidates and the race is so close. If you and Pelosi were so worried about the party you would not have done what you did in MI and FL and Pelosi would not be trying to play "get even" politics with the Clintons. Do you think the American public is stupid????? This is a Demoocracy or was the last time I checked and we should hear from as many voters as possible when something this important comes along. You remind me of the used car salesman that tells someone they have to make up their mind in an hour or the car will be gone. If six long months isn't enough to campaign especially given the fact that we now have the internet along with TV, radio, newspapers and magazines then I say they don't have much of a campaign staff or just maybe not much of a campaign to start with. Old men of the DNC (Kennedy, Leahy, Dodd come to mind) need I remind you THIS IS A HISTORIC RACE and should be left to finish. Stop letting the media do your dirty work and step aside and let the people have THEIR say. You may be a bit surprised.

Leahy should shut up.

I don't know there small state senators are ..

BO is behind this. Very negative campaign.

Obama's been mingled so much with those people, such as radical pastor, Louis Farrakhan, black panther party, does it mean if he becomes the president (I real pray to God this won't happen) that this country would be turn out to be a radical country (the opposite way, becoming anti Israel?)

ATTENTION ITALIANS; MORE FROM OBAMA'S "MENTOR AND SPIRITUAL ADVISER": The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is canceling all of his public appearances for "safety concerns." He's supposed to be over at some church in Tampa, but he bailed out of that one. But get this. He has slurred Italians now in a piece that he wrote published in the most recent issue of Trumpet News Magazine. He wrote a eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard in the November-December, 2007, issue of this magazine, Trumpet News Magazine. Here's what he said: "(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him. The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans. From the circumstances surrounding Jesus' birth (in a barn in a township that was under the Apartheid Roman government that said his daddy had to be in), up to and including the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death on a cross, a Roman cross, public lynching Italian style. ... He refused to be defined by others and Dr. Asa Hilliard also refused to be defined by others. The government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the Klan, white supremacy is clearly in charge, but Asa, like Jesus, refused to be defined by an oppressive government because Asa got his identity from an Omnipotent God."

It's kind of funny, there are quite a few states left that haven't voted, including some fairly large ones in PA, Indiana, etc.

The Democratic party could look at the calender in advance and see exactly how spread out and long their primary season was going to be. I'm trying to imagine a CLOSER primary race scenario wherein these later primaries would NOT be seen, as has been suggested to be the case now by so many, as being unnecessary, extra, superfluous, etc.

If not in THIS race, then WHEN would these primaries be relevant and when could all these voters expect their votes to matter to the Democratic party?

Open letter to Howard Dean and the DNC

I think you and Nancy Pelosi are way out of line asking for Hillary to quit. Why don't you quit trying to tip the scale in Obama's favor and let it play out???? For pete's sake it isn't that much to ask given the fact that they are both historic candidates and the race is so close. If you and Pelosi were so worried about the party you would not have done what you did in MI and FL and Pelosi would not be trying to play "get even" politics with the Clintons. Do you think the American public is stupid????? This is a Demoocracy or was the last time I checked and we should hear from as many voters as possible when something this important comes along. You remind me of the used car salesman that tells someone they have to make up their mind in an hour or the car will be gone. If six long months isn't enough to campaign especially given the fact that we now have the internet along with TV, radio, newspapers and magazines then I say they don't have much of a campaign staff or just maybe not much of a campaign to start with. Old men of the DNC (Kennedy, Leahy, Dodd come to mind) need I remind you THIS IS A HISTORIC RACE and should be left to finish. Stop letting the media do your dirty work and step aside and let the people have THEIR say. You may be a bit surprised.

let's get real here.

the only one who wants Hillary to drop out are the REPULSIVE SCAMMERS...

like allenridge .....

Why, they don't want to lose their place at the feeding trough.

If Al Gore had taken his rightful place in history, IRAQ would have never happened...

The OIL WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE.

We would have been steered towards conservation and renewable energy sources.

BUSHes family and friends, including the SAND BROTHERS UAE / KUWIAT / SAUDI ARABIA

had plans for IRAQ, and the ZIONISTS in Israel provided them with a reason to take IRAQ...

the nebulous terrorist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

threat, aka the B.S. ploy.

AL GORE DIDN"T GO THROUGH WITH THE VOTE COUNT BECAUSE THERE WAS PRESSURE FOR HIM NOT TO...

HILLARY IS BEING PRESSURED THE SAME WAY NOW, in the same manner...

The reality is, more people are registering to vote, and Mc Cain is getting

no coverage, no one will know who he is by November, anyone saying other wise is selling a slice of B.S. Pie

don't buy it, it won't taste as good as it looks.

Hillary needs to finish. O mama, will be gone in 5 weeks.

Count on it....

Revelations will shake his camp regarding some of his private parties.

.eat that.

.

Obama may very well win the nomination but he will not get my Democratic vote. I will vote for McCain. We cannot allow a racist and anti-American like Obama to be president of this country.

dotellen: Obama is merely saying whatever he thinks will fool the American public into thinking that he is the candidate of "change" and a "uniter." His deception works on some; not on others.

Brian: There you go again. Saying that the article is a reprint does not make it untrue. Obviously Obama thought it was true; that's why he did one of his now-famous "after the fact" denunciations of the piece.

Brian

Guilty by association is the tool of these one trick horses.

They're so adept at twisting reality, they've started losing track of their own lies and have started to believe them. I believe you've refuted most of their posts accurately enough that if you decided to get tired of replying no one would think you're running.

I've been shaking my head this whole time

Perhaps you missed your candidate on "The View" this morning saying that if Wright hadn't retired in December, he would have left the church. Don't you believe him? Posted by: JakeD

It bothers me that Obama, after listening to this man for 20 years, now says he would have left the church if Wright haden't retired. Seems to me Obama is saying that, now that Wright is turning out to be a political liability, Obama would leave the church. Nothing to do with religion, just political expedience.

I think its time to ignore the planner and celested9...there like those two old guys up in the balcony on the Muppet Show...just not as funny.

It's simple: Obama can take McCain in the general election and Clinton cannot.
___________

Maybe in fantasyland.

Picture this PAC ad in Oct:

Wright: "God Damn America"

Obama: "He's like an uncle to me."

GAME OVER

Swear in President McCain

Too bad the Democrats know far more about throwing away an election than winning one... 2000... 2004... 2008...??

theplanner, the video (mentioned in one of my previous message) contains some text extracts and some speeches from Hillary's own pastor and that might help you revise your assumptions about her, her pastor, her faith and her religion.

That Hamas "manifesto" was a re-print of a piece in the LA Times boneheads...why don't you read it yourself instead of acting the parrot.

I call it "Six Degrees of Barrack Obama":

LA Times prints some piece by some guy from Hamas...a member of the Church reads it and recommends that it be re-printed...the re-print is approved under Rev. Wright's watch...Rev. Wright is Obama's pastor...Obama supports Hamas...Obama is an un-American Jewish hating radical Muslim sympathizer.

Keep tryin!

The hell he says. I take back anything nice I've ever said about Leahy.

s.

Let's all be honest about this race issue. There is a huge double standard operating here, and whether one wants to admit it, I think it is rather obvious to us all. Hillary discusses Martin Luther King, Jr.'s cooperation with Lyndon Johnson in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and Obama plays the race card. Bill Clinton tries to correct the false impression Obama has given about his alleged continual opposition to the Iraq war by calling Obama's portrayal of his Iraq position a "fairy tale" and Obama plays the race card. (For those who doubt these last two statements, go back at look at the debate where Tim Russert busts Obama for four pages of press releases regarding these issues and the race card Obama was playing). Don Imus makes a racially insensitive statement on the air, and Obama calls for his firing and complains that he doesn't want his children to be exposed to such things. Geraldine Ferraro made just one statement which Obama thought was inappropriate, and he hit the ceiling. However, we are supposed to ignore 20 years of racist and anti-American rants from Obama's "mentor and spiritual adviser" because he made a good speech. WHY DON'T WE HOLD OBAMA TO THE SAME STANDARD HE HOLDS OTHERS? You Obama apologists, just admit it - it is your view that racist statements are only deplorable when made by those who have no connection to Obama. Go ahead and admit it, at least to yourself. The truth will set you free.

Oh, and give it up, Brian. You're wrong, and you know it. Be a man!

Joinboiles, Hillary lost texas, at least in pledged delegated, as Obama got fime more there than she got. This wonam has taught the entire country th inevitability of her presidency for sixteen plus years, and lost, or practically lost already, to the guy, whome nobody had known until 1998 in Illinois, and even much later in the nation. Nothing similar to Joan D'Ark. Besides, she was asked to get out because of her permanent cheating and extremely dirty and dishonst methods of campaigning. Nothing heroic in this campaign of hers, and, certainly, nothing heroic in Hilary Clinton-herself. It is like to name the ugly flasher on the street the world sexiest woman(or man, whichever sex the flasher has). The courage of such flasher is the only kind of the courage Hillary Clinton has.

westernbiological, you forgot mentioning FOX in your message. This makes me think that you must be a Clinton supporter trying to delay what can not be avoided.

Twisted interpretation...I'm literate. Read what he says slowly and you might understand the words that are coming off the page...he refers to the movement as a combined series of events including the bridge...wow you guys are really slow and good at telling yourselves that you can never be wrong...even in the most obvious and extreme cases...where did he say he was born?

Leahy, the great protector of American rights, NOT, should resign as Senator. He's totally worthless as Chair of the Judiciary Committee, or is there a lesser word for worthless.

Dirty tricks happening in TX right now. Tomorrow is the state convention to officially select the delegates from the caucuses. Apparently someone is trying to disrupt that process. From the Texas Democratic Party:

"It has come to our attention that someone, perhaps in the name of the Texas Democratic Party, is spreading misinformation about upcoming County and Senate District Conventions. We have received reports from delegates who have received e-mails saying that conventions have been cancelled. We have also received unconfirmed reports that someone is placing robo-calls, claiming to be from the Texas Democratic Party, suggesting that county or district conventions have been cancelled.

"The Texas Democratic Party has not been informed that any county or district convention has been cancelled or postponed. If any delegates receive information to that effect, I urge them to plan to attend their convention as scheduled unless they receive information about a postponement or cancellation from their local Democratic County Chair or the official Texas Democratic Party website.

"As we begin the next step in the convention process, all eyes are once again on Texas, watching and waiting to see the outcome of the delegate count that will be determined by our County and Senatorial District Conventions and State Convention. I am confident that the vast majority of Democrats will conduct our convention business in the fairest, most professional, and most impartial manner possible, as we work to convert the enthusiasm driving the convention process into Democratic victories from the County Courthouse to the State House to the White House."

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Only the two campaigns had access to the contact list. There is an investigation going on but there are already indications someone in the Clinton campaign may be responsible.

allenridge: You're correct. Moveon.org would be screaming bloody murder if the disenfranchisement affected their endorsed candidate, Obama. However, because it assists him in his attempt to steal the nomination, they are oddly silent. So much for their reputation . . .

He's right. Obama has the only chance. But the dem's will commit suicide, again, as always. McCain will invade Sunni Iran (I know, I know....Don't tell me, tell him). And we'll be stuck in three losing wars with a president who doesn't understand economics.

Both Democrats are unelectable in November.

How can the Democrats expect to win the White House when they only recognize 48 states?

Where's the social justice and count all the vote liberals?

Where?

Why aren't their massive protests by the "principled" liberals within the Democrat party?

Why aren't their close pals from the far left-wing hate groups DailyKos and MoveOn.org protesting this crime against our constitution?

Where are all the "self-righteous" liberal Democrat and their close courrupt pals in our mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press when it comes to this Social Injustice?

WHERE?....................................

Now what does that "really" say about the Democrat Party?

...................really?

I'M SURE OBAMA HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS, EITHER, EVEN THOUGH IT HAPPENED IN JULY OF 2007 -- JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence. The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week. Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

Lots of posts on this thread. Did Gov. Richardson get this many when he called on Hillary to drop out?

Should the Democrats turn their backs on the woman who ...

braved sniper fire and bad hair in the Bosnian wind ...

helped Ireland achieve peace after decades of strife ...

tried to stop Nafta (by buttonholing women's groups in the White House and telling them to support it) ...

etc.,

etc.,

etc.

Yes!

Credibility counts.

Individual responsibility is the cornerstone of government accountability.

No one believes that a party represents change if it is also a party to corruption.

The Clintons used to be able to bully people in the Democratic Party.

Look at the Pavlovian response by Party fat cats who support Hillary--how they tried to push Nancy Pelosi around.

But they are burdened with more quiver than arrows.

Their no-holds-barred threats have been transformed into ineffective heavy handedness.

The Democratic Party can do better.

It will do better ...

With Barack Obama as its nominee come this November.

Both Democrats are unelectable in November.

How can the Democrats expect to win the White House when they only recognize 48 states?

Where's the social justice and count all the vote liberals?

Where?

Why aren't their massive protests by the "principled" liberals within the Democrat party?

Why aren't their close pals from the far left-wing hate groups DailyKos and MoveOn.org protesting this crime against our constitution?

Where are all the "self-righteous" liberal Democrat and their close courrupt pals in our mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press when it comes to this Social Injustice?

WHERE?....................................

Now what does that "really" say about the Democrat Party?

...................really?

Both Democrats are unelectable in November.

How can the Democrats expect to win the White House when they only recognize 48 states?

Where's the social justice and count all the vote liberals?

Where?

Why aren't their massive protests by the "principled" liberals within the Democrat party?

Why aren't their close pals from the far left-wing hate groups DailyKos and MoveOn.org protesting this crime against our constitution?

Where are all the "self-righteous" liberal Democrat and their close courrupt pals in our mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press when it comes to this Social Injustice?

WHERE?....................................

Now what does that "really" say about the Democrat Party?

...................really?

I'M SURE OBAMA HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS, EITHER, EVEN THOUGH IT HAPPENED IN JULY OF 2007 -- JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence. The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week. Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

Go to www.lulu.com/aepelbaum. Watch there the front and back covers, mostly the back cover, of the book-The Impeachment of The Art of Betrayal to find out more about the real personality and "achievements" of Mrs. Clinton.

Leahy's call for bowing out would only emboldened the Sen Clinton's supporters to fight the good fight just like Ohio and Texas. Outnumbered in all: money for ads, supporters and endorsements and yet WINNER....the good people will decide and not the media, party elders,endorsers, etc....and their TACTICS will boomerang in due time. GO HILLARY GO! GOD BLESS JOAN OF ARC!....

Brian, you're hopeless. Now you just need to ask Obama about your twisted interpretation

Mental lightweights. The silence feels wonderful.

Brian: Wrong again. "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama." In the preceding sentence, the word "happened" denotes something that has ALREADY OCCURRED. This, of course, is not possible, unless your idol's parents were time travelers.

Buddy2

Thanks for the post. We who want Michigan and Florida votes counted are with you!!!

What is required from you Floridians is to write and call your state legislators and SENATOR OBAMA. Tell them both that you will not have your voice and your votes taken away from you.

I ask you to contact Senator Obama because it is his lawyers who are muddying the waters and obstructing revotes. What you need to tell Obama is that he cannot disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters now and then expect them to be there for him in November. Pass this on. thx

Planner/Celested9 why don't you haters just take your lies and ignorance somewhere where you might get away with it. Guess you feel real dumb now...I would.

It is inappropriate for Hillary to be pushed out at this time when you have the unbelievable unfair stupidity of disenfranchising Florida and Michigan. It seems the elites have a remarkably short memory if they actually don't redo Florida considering what happened in 2000 and also considering that with three candidates on the ballot Hillary had an easy win in Florida. Howard Dean is a complete disaster. How much sense is it for Obama to be coronated when Hillary almost every large state that Democrats have to win.

Let Pennsylvania happen an and then in the end we might end up with an Obama-Clinton ticket. Perhaps not the ideal ticket on paper but considering they have completely diferent and equally strong bunch of supporters in terms of their demographics it may be the best way to stop defections to McCain. Frankly Obama is making me uncomfortable as he's moving way out on the left.

It's simple: Obama can take McCain in the general election and Clinton cannot. When he won Iowa (seems like ages ago), a high-ranking GOP operative said, "She's done. We're done." I think those 4 words, from the oppostion camp, make it pretty clear who the candidate should be. I am hoping she does the right thing. Soon.

And just to put the date in perspective f