Dan Balz's Take
Three Turning Points on the Road to Denver
By Dan Balz
Democratic politicians should have three dates circled on their calendars: April 22, May 6 and July 1. Each represents a potential turning point in the nomination battle between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
April 22, the day of the Pennsylvania primary, is Clinton's next chance to make a strong case for staying in the race to the end. Conversely, it is a critical opportunity for Obama to show that he continues to expand his appeal within the party, as someone who hopes to become the nominee must do.
May 6 is when North Carolina and Indiana hold their primaries. It has gained significance over the past two weeks as a potential make-or-break day for both candidates, perhaps the only date between now and the end of the primaries that could deliver a seismic jolt to the trajectory of the nomination battle.
July 1 is Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean's deadline for superdelegates to get off the fence and declare whether they will vote for Clinton or Obama.
Start with Pennsylvania. Nothing underscores the significance of the Keystone State's primary more than the current bus tour that Obama is taking from one side of the state to the other.
After Obama lost to Clinton in Ohio by 10 percentage points, there were questions about how hard he would play in Pennsylvania. Clinton has family roots in the state. She has the support of Gov. Edward Rendell and Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter. The state's demographic profile fits Clinton almost perfectly.
The polls offer a bleak landscape for Obama. Clinton has enjoyed a double-digit lead in the state for months. Obama is braced for a loss in Pennsylvania but his campaign team has concluded he cannot afford another loss of the magnitude of Ohio.
Obama has retooled his campaign in Pennsylvania, bringing in Paul Tewes as his new state director. Tewes was Obama's state director in Iowa and later in Ohio. He has seen what worked and what didn't and he has the full trust of Obama's Chicago headquarters team.
More telling are the changes in Obama's campaign style. He is more focused on bread-and-butter issues and is spending more time in informal settings with working people. He went bowling -- for the first time in decades -- over the weekend and has shown up in cafes and bars in an effort to connect with working-class Pennsylvanians.
His hope in Pennsylvania is something often heard during the early stages of a presidential campaign -- to exceed expectations. That's an odd objective for someone who purports to be the Democratic front-runner, but he is seeking to define down his prospects in the hope that a relatively narrow loss can be spun into victory.
Clinton needs Ohio plus -- an outsized victory that silences for a time any talk that she should get out. As Ohio showed, there is nothing like a decisive victory to change the conversation.
Clinton spent the weekend beating back such talk after Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy had publicly called for her to get out. On Saturday, she made an emphatic statement to the Post's Perry Bacon Jr. that she's taking her fight all the way to Denver and that she will continue to press for a resolution to the problem of Michigan and Florida. Her husband urged Democrats to chill, to let the race play out according to the calendar and not attempt to disenfranchise the voters in the remaining 10 contests.
May 6 looms as an even bigger moment. Nobody expects a significant change in the race before Pennsylvania and, given Clinton's prospects of victory there, Obama loyalists may have a harder time immediately after that primary to argue that she should quit.
That could leave it to voters in North Carolina and Indiana to change the status quo. Obama is favored in North Carolina and The Wall Street Journal reported Monday morning that the entire congressional delegation is moving to endorse him. If he wins Indiana as well, a state that fits neither candidate perfectly, he will then argue that he has broken through. At that point, Clinton would face real pressure.
But Obama has let these opportunities slip away before. Should Clinton manage to win both Indiana and North Carolina, she and Obama will be in slugfest through the rest of the campaign. If Democrats have been worried about some of the attacks going back and forth between the two campaigns in the past two weeks, they should expect even worse at that point.
Any kind of muddled conclusion to May 6 virtually assures that the race goes through to the end. That will leave it in that hands of the superdelegates, and it was to them that Dean was directing his comments last week.
By nature, many of these superdelegates will not be profiles in courage. Obama is doing is best to pry some of them loose. If he continues to do so over the next few weeks, and performs well in the upcoming primaries, he will gradually consolidate the nomination.
Whether Dean has the clout to push the superdelegates to a conclusion by July 1, if the primaries end with the race notably closer in delegates and popular vote than it is today, is a real question. He may need the help of other senior Democrats who have not previously taken sides.
Al Gore, on CBS's "60 Minutes" Sunday, laughed when asked by correspondent Lesley Stahl whether he would step in to try to resolve the nomination. "I'm not applying for the job of broker," he said. Perhaps Gore still harbors a smidgen of hope that the party might eventually turn to him, not to broker a deal, but to become the nominee to unite a party fractured by the Obama-Clinton duel.
Depending on what happens on April 22, May 6 and by July 1, Democrats will know whether they have their nominee, or whether they are truly in need of either a broker or a uniter
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Posted by: willygoo46 | April 1, 2008 9:40 AM
I believe the reason they want Hillary out now is because Hillary will win 7 or 8 of the last ten contest and this race will be very close. This is the real reason they want her out.
Posted by: marshall320 | April 1, 2008 3:09 AM
I believe the reason they want Hillary out now is because Hillary will win 7 or 8 of the last ten contest and this race will be very close. This is the real reason they want her out.
Posted by: marshall320 | April 1, 2008 3:09 AM
I believe the reason they want Hillary out now is because Hillary will win 7 or 8 of the last ten contest and this race will be very close. This is the real reason they want her out.
Posted by: marshall320 | April 1, 2008 3:09 AM
I believe the reason they want Hillary out now is because Hillary will win 7 or 8 of the last ten contest and this race will be very close. This is the real reason they want her out.
Posted by: marshall320 | April 1, 2008 3:09 AM
Celebrating Women: A Note from Dr. Maya Angelou
"You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits end, but she
has always risen, always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her
friends.
Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on
her.
There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a
girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But, to become a woman is a
serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she
occupies.
Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in
this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country.
She is the prayer of every woman and man who long for fair play, healthy families, good
schools, and a balanced economy.
She declares she wants to see more smiles in the families, more courtesies between men and
women, more honesty in the marketplace. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to what it
can become.
She means to rise.
She means to help our country rise. Don't give up on her, ever.
In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country a
wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without
sanctimonious piety, without crippling fear.
Rise Hillary.
Rise. "
Maya Angelou
Posted by: mjno | March 31, 2008 03:46 PM
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 3:04 AM
Celebrating Women: A Note from Dr. Maya Angelou
"You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits end, but she
has always risen, always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her
friends.
Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on
her.
There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a
girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But, to become a woman is a
serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she
occupies.
Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in
this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country.
She is the prayer of every woman and man who long for fair play, healthy families, good
schools, and a balanced economy.
She declares she wants to see more smiles in the families, more courtesies between men and
women, more honesty in the marketplace. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to what it
can become.
She means to rise.
She means to help our country rise. Don't give up on her, ever.
In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country a
wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without
sanctimonious piety, without crippling fear.
Rise Hillary.
Rise. "
Maya Angelou
Posted by: mjno | March 31, 2008 03:46 PM
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:44 AM
Hillary won the popular vote in Texas. That is what counts in the generals. the superdelegates will decide who the nominee is based on their winnability. SO IT IS OLD NEWS HILLARY WON TEXAS. GET OVER IT ANTI-AMERICAN HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:39 AM
Hillary won the popular vote in Texas. That is what counts in the generals. the superdelegates will decide who the nominee is based on their winnability. SO IT IS OLD NEWS HILLARY WON TEXAS. GET OVER IT ANTI-AMERICAN HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:39 AM
Hillary won the popular vote in Texas. That is what counts in the generals. the superdelegates will decide who the nominee is based on their winnability. SO IT IS OLD NEWS HILLARY WON TEXAS. GET OVER IT ANTI-AMERICAN HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:39 AM
Hillary won the popular vote in Texas. That is what counts in the generals. the superdelegates will decide who the nominee is based on their winnability. SO IT IS OLD NEWS HILLARY WON TEXAS. GET OVER IT ANTI-AMERICAN HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:39 AM
Hillary won the popular vote in Texas. That is what counts in the generals. the superdelegates will decide who the nominee is based on their winnability. SO IT IS OLD NEWS HILLARY WON TEXAS. GET OVER IT ANTI-AMERICAN HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:34 AM
Hillary won the popular vote in Texas. That is what counts in the generals. the superdelegates will decide who the nominee is based on their winnability. SO IT IS OLD NEWS HILLARY WON TEXAS. GET OVER IT ANTI-AMERICAN HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 2:34 AM
OBAMA HAS NOW WON TEXAS.
And he has won way more states than Hillary. And he has won 165 more elected delegates than Hillary has won. And he has won 700,000 more popular votes than Hillary has won. And he has won more overall delegates than Hillary has won.
AND, HERE'S SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW... since Feb. 5th, 2008, Obama has won the endorsements of 64 more superdelegates. In this same time period, Hillary has won the endorsements of only 4 more superdelegates !!!!
Posted by: MarthaP1 | April 1, 2008 2:02 AM
OBAMA HAS NOW WON TEXAS.
And he has won way more states than Hillary. And he has won 165 more elected delegates than Hillary has won. And he has won 700,000 more popular votes than Hillary has won. And he has won more overall delegates than Hillary has won.
AND, HERE'S SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW... since Feb. 5th, 2008, Obama has won the endorsements of 64 more superdelegates. In this same time period, Hillary has won the endorsements of only 4 more superdelegates !!!!
Posted by: MarthaP1 | April 1, 2008 2:02 AM
OBAMA HAS NOW WON TEXAS.
And he has won way more states than Hillary. And he has won 165 more elected delegates than Hillary has won. And he has won 700,000 more popular votes than Hillary has won. And he has won more overall delegates than Hillary has won.
AND, HERE'S SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW... since Feb. 5th, 2008, Obama has won the endorsements of 64 more superdelegates. In this same time period, Hillary has won the endorsements of only 4 more superdelegates !!!!
Posted by: MarthaP1 | April 1, 2008 2:02 AM
OBAMA HAS NOW WON TEXAS.
And he has won way more states than Hillary. And he has won 165 more elected delegates than Hillary has won. And he has won 700,000 more popular votes than Hillary has won. And he has won more overall delegates than Hillary has won.
AND, HERE'S SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW... since Feb. 5th, 2008, Obama has won the endorsements of 64 more superdelegates. In this same time period, Hillary has won the endorsements of only 4 more superdelegates !!!!
Posted by: MarthaP1 | April 1, 2008 2:02 AM
OBAMA HAS NOW WON TEXAS.
And he has won way more states than Hillary. And he has won 165 more elected delegates than Hillary has won. And he has won 700,000 more popular votes than Hillary has won. And he has won more overall delegates than Hillary has won.
AND, HERE'S SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW... since Feb. 5th, 2008, Obama has won the endorsements of 64 more superdelegates. In this same time period, Hillary has won the endorsements of only 4 more superdelegates !!!!
Posted by: MarthaP1 | April 1, 2008 2:02 AM
Barack Obama, and NOT Hillary Clinton, has won Texas. Primary and caucus results are mostly finished, and Obama has pulled ahead of Clinton in delegates won in Texas. Just thought I'd share that.
And HERE'S SOME VERY INTESTING NEWS: Since February 5th, 2008, Barack Obama has won the endorsements of 64 superdelegates. In this same time period, Hillary has won the endorsements of only 4 superdelegates.
Slowly but surely, Obama is erasing the lead Hillary has in superdelegates, and now he needs only about 30 more superdelegate endorsements to overtake Hillary. I PREDICT that within a month to 6 weeks, Obama will overtake Hillary in superdelegate endorsements.
MORE STATES WON, MORE POPULAR VOTES WON, MANY MORE ELECTED DELEGATES WON, MORE OVERALL DELEGATES WON.
AND SOON, MORE SUPERDELEGATES WON !!!
OBAMA '08 !!!
Posted by: MarthaP1 | April 1, 2008 2:02 AM
We have a nominee, but the Lying Clintons just haven't finished trashing him yet. They are focused on 2012 because they are not so stupid as to think the super delegates will pick her when Obama will have won the most elected delegates, the popular vote and the most states. When the videos of Hillary's "sniper fire" landing started being played over and over and over, it bacame impossible for the media to continue to ignore all her lies. Not a chance the super delegates would pick her now and continue to watch those videos all fall. Once it's clear a candidate is a pathological liar, there is little hope for winning anything after that.
Posted by: dolph924 | April 1, 2008 1:43 AM
We have a nominee, but the Lying Clintons just haven't finished trashing him yet. They are focused on 2012 because they are not so stupid as to think the super delegates will pick her when Obama will have won the most elected delegates, the popular vote and the most states. When the videos of Hillary's "sniper fire" landing started being played over and over and over, it bacame impossible for the media to continue to ignore all her lies. Not a chance the super delegates would pick her now and continue to watch those videos all fall. Once it's clear a candidate is a pathological liar, there is little hope for winning anything after that.
Posted by: dolph924 | April 1, 2008 1:43 AM
We have a nominee, but the Lying Clintons just haven't finished trashing him yet. They are focused on 2012 because they are not so stupid as to think the super delegates will pick her when Obama will have won the most elected delegates, the popular vote and the most states. When the videos of Hillary's "sniper fire" landing started being played over and over and over, it bacame impossible for the media to continue to ignore all her lies. Not a chance the super delegates would pick her now and continue to watch those videos all fall. Once it's clear a candidate is a pathological liar, there is little hope for winning anything after that.
Posted by: dolph924 | April 1, 2008 1:33 AM
We have a nominee, but the Lying Clintons just haven't finished trashing him yet. They are focused on 2012 because they are not so stupid as to think the super delegates will pick her when Obama will have won the most elected delegates, the popular vote and the most states. When the videos of Hillary's "sniper fire" landing started being played over and over and over, it bacame impossible for the media to continue to ignore all her lies. Not a chance they super delegates would pick her now and continue to watch those videos all fall. Once it's clear a candidate is a pathological liar, there is little hope for winning anything after that.
Posted by: dolph924 | April 1, 2008 1:33 AM
Celebrating Women: A Note from Dr. Maya Angelou
"You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits end, but she
has always risen, always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her
friends.
Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on
her.
There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a
girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But, to become a woman is a
serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she
occupies.
Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in
this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country.
She is the prayer of every woman and man who long for fair play, healthy families, good
schools, and a balanced economy.
She declares she wants to see more smiles in the families, more courtesies between men and
women, more honesty in the marketplace. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to what it
can become.
She means to rise.
She means to help our country rise. Don't give up on her, ever.
In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country a
wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without
sanctimonious piety, without crippling fear.
Rise Hillary.
Rise. "
Maya Angelou
Posted by: mjno | March 31, 2008 03:46 PM
Posted by: dsclinton | April 1, 2008 1:11 AM
to nnia
Your calculations don't take several things into consideration. By the time Clinton gets enough delegates, Obama will have secured the nomination. I've already done the calculations using your math.
First, if Clinton wins 151 votes from the Kentucky, West Virginia, Puerto Rico and Penn primaries then Obama will receive 141 delegates bringing him to 1766 compared to Clinton's 1637.
Then in the other primary if Clinton receives 122 delegates, then Obama will receive 152 putting him at 1918 still ahead of Clintons 1759.
Using Michigan's current proposal, the delegates would be 82 to Clinton and 75 to Obama. Without the super delegates this would put the total at Obama at 1993 (32 short of the the 2025 needed) and Clinton at 1881 (144 short).
The only way that Clinton can win using your calculations is if:
1. The Florida vote is not counted at all.
2. Less than 32 super delegates vote for Obama and the other 334 go to Clinton.
Face it, the only way that Clinton can legally take the nomination is if she can close the pledged delegate lead from 150 to 50. Given the current polls for the states, I don't think that's possible.
Posted by: dsaafir1980 | April 1, 2008 12:47 AM
The media is not so unfair to Hillary. Unfortunately, she has earned much of her bad press by running a flawed campaign, which is now reflected in her increasingly negative poll numbers. Nor is Hillary being bullied, as calls for her exit are based generally on math and politics, not sexism. The reality is that at this point her remaining path to the nomination treads through ground that will almost certainly be more divisive for the party, as it must involve tearing down Obama and/or having superdelegates flip the election to her. In that instance, someone with her negatives would have a very hard time uniting the party , and sadly, she stands an even slimmer chance of uniting the country.
Posted by: MShaughn | April 1, 2008 12:41 AM
svrepeater - once again your desperation shows. You will likely find tinkerbell and santa in her camp. After all, she is down to any illusion she can find.
You should start looking for a good therapist. I can tell you are soon to be in deep denial. Please get help while you can.
Posted by: infuse | April 1, 2008 12:23 AM
September 13, 2004: Private detective Anthony Pellicano was hired by the Democrats in 1992 to squelch "bimbo eruptions" about Bill Clinton, and CBS accepted his assurances that the Gennifer Flowers tapes were fakes.
September 10, 2004: At the time of the Gennifer Flowers scandal, KCBS, the network's owned-and-operated affiliate in Los Angeles, took her tape and submitted it to private detective and forensic tape expert Anthony Pellicano for analysis. Only later was it learned that Mr. Pellicano had no formal training in evaluating tapes and was at the time being paid by Democratic sources to squelch "bimbo eruptions" surrounding Mr. Clinton.
January 4, 2004: Pellicano was the audio recording "expert" hired by Hillary Clinton to analyze taped conversations between then-President Clinton and Gennifer Flowers. Pellicano falsely claimed the tapes were "selectively edited" by Ms. Flowers. Ultimately, of course, the recordings were found to be 100% authentic. Pellicano, who is known as the "investigator to the stars" was in the habit of illegally wiretapping his targets. Many in Hollywood, and in Washington, are concerned about what these tapes might reveal.
November 23, 2003: Mary Matalin, now a senior advisor to President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney stumbled across the Clinton-Pellicano link while she was political director for President Bush's 1992 reelection campaign."I got the letters from Pellicano to [various women linked to Bill Clinton] intimidating them," Matalin said in 1997, when she was the host of her own nationally syndicated talk show on the CBS Radio network. "I had tapes of conversations from Pellicano to the women. I got handwritten letters from the women...I got one letter from one of the women's dad's saying, 'This is so horrible. Here's what they're going to do to us,'" . Matalin wasn't the only one who knew about the Clinton's employment of Pellicano. In fact, before Pellicano's name became politically toxic, his identity had been widely reported. "Shortly after the [Monica Lewinsky] scandal broke, Lucianne Goldberg was in her office in New York when, she says, she got a call from David Kendall, Clinton's lawyer on Whitewater matters," reported Newsweek's Michael Isikoff in 1998. "Kendall, a gentlemanly lawyer, politely asked Goldberg if he could send someone by her New York apartment to pick up her tapes of her conversations with Linda Tripp. "Goldberg was furious. A few days earlier, one of her famous clients had already been approached by Anthony Pellicano, seeking information about the tapes. The detective had said that he was 'working for Clinton.'" New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's Washington attorney David Kendall denied that Anthony Pellicano ever worked for the Clintons.
Anthony Pellicano Web Links
This is where this info came from
This should say it all along with the Peter Paul scandal in California Google both and read.
Posted by: bennie1 | April 1, 2008 12:06 AM
infuse --
Like "Santa Claus" or "tinkerbell", you can say it all you want.
That's not going to make it any more real.
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 11:59 PM
New Gallup poll released today.
Democrats, by a whopping 59% to 30%, believe Barack Obama will be more likely to beat John McSame. TAKE THAT supers!
More math. More Hillary delusions. She can't beat the math. One of her staffers said today that it's only a matter of time whether she walks out the door, or whether people will show her the door.
Barack Obama will be the next president. I like the ring of that: PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 11:51 PM
svrepeater - Of course their coverage lapsed. It's the law. Aetna reinstated it. But only because there was no added risk. Just imagine if one of her staffers had discovered a malignancy in early January or February. Aetna would never have allowed that staffer back in the policy.
Hillary doesn't care about anyone else. She is cold. Cruel. Heartless.
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 11:41 PM
On this silly talk of the party "turning to Gore" in Denver as the nominee, the only way that could happen is if either Clinton or Obama endorsed him. They will control all the non-super delegates there, and the kind of people who get to be convention delegates will stay loyal to their candidate.
And even if Clinton endorsed Gore, he'd still have to pry lose a lot of Obama supers.
So realistically, the only chance for Gore to become the nominee is if Obama would ask his delegates to vote for Gore. Chances of that?
The Gore talk ignores the reality of who controls the convention: the candidates who control the delegates, not "the party."
Posted by: lappzimm | March 31, 2008 11:34 PM
infuse --
Karl Rove would be proud of you.
Do you really feel a late insurance payment with no lapse in coverage compares with Obama letting his voters freeze in slums?
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 11:32 PM
infuse --
Their coverage never lapsed.
You're really desperate to get your guy elected, aren't you?
Why don't you find out who he really is, first?
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 11:30 PM
She has the wisdom, the experience, and the knowledge to bring peace and smiles to every family. WITH LIES AND ILLUSIONS. And she risked the lives--yes the very lives--of her campaign staff by letting their health insurance lapse. There is no automatic reinstatement of insurance.
Health policies lapse after 30 days of non-payment. It's a good thing one of her staffers did not have a positive mammogram. Aetna would probable have not reinstated the policy if any of her staffers had discovered a serious health risk.
Hillary does not care about anyone but herself. She doesn't have to worry about her insurance. Bill is raking in tens of millions with secret deals in Asia. They're still trying to find a legal way to hide all that money. Or at least hide its sources. That's why the Clintons have not released their tax returns.
Hillary is just heartless to put her staffers at risk. Absolutely cold and cruel. She looks more like a Karl Rove Republican every day!
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 11:21 PM
I have been thinking of what to say to the hateful comments being made by supporters of each of the candidates and the best I can think of is say nothing.
Posted by: lylepink | March 31, 2008 11:20 PM
Barak has served his purpose.
His running has allowed the big money interests in America - who own the media fyi - to make this nomination a race between him and Hillary.
Hillary was never the target of Barak's being run as a nominee.
Edwards was.
Barak's being run as a nominee allowed for the media's blackout of Edwards in the debates, letting them relegate the true candidate for change to the shadows, as an inconsequential "third wheel".
Make no mistake - it was Edwards who represented real change, and it is for precisely this reason he had to be eliminated.
Once again, Barak never had to be electable - he shall lose by a wide, wide margin to McCain - all he had to do was eliminate real change before it could start.
The real battle is already over.
Change has lost.
America has lost.
Posted by: eloquentrave | March 31, 2008 11:02 PM
It is sad to say that both democratic canidates will sling it out until the convention in Denver and severly hurt there chances for election in November. While John McCain is sitting back and watching these two literaly give him the presidency.
That is sad!!!!!
Posted by: hcfd03 | March 31, 2008 10:47 PM
Admiration and respect? For what? Her only significant accomplishment to date was being the First Lady.
Posted by: zcxnissan | March 31, 2008 10:40 PM
I have no right to vote for the nomination, but I do have a wish for her!Mrs. Clinton deserves our admiration and respect!
She has the wisdom, the experience, and the knowledge to bring peace and smiles to every family.
Posted by: sjh_set | March 31, 2008 10:10 PM
YES WE CAN!!
AND NO SHE DID'NT.
THANK GOD
Posted by: mscaife | March 31, 2008 9:59 PM
McCain will more than likely based on current polling and electoral vote projections beat either Obama or Clinton especially if that primary battle continues much longer. By the way to the previous poster, Carter was the worst President we ever had at the worst possible time. Stop drinking the Kool Aid.
Posted by: zcxnissan | March 31, 2008 9:57 PM
Obama Supporters --
Before you send any more of your, or your parent's, hard earned money to Barry Obama --
Please Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from NBC news, Chicago's most respected TV news program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8&feature=related
How do you explain away the fact that Barry Obama never followed up on the 11 slums that his friend Rezko was supposed to repair in Obama's district in Chicago, and continued to do nothing about the 40 slums that Rezko was supposed to repair or replace in Chicago, even after Obama joined the US Senate?
From the Chicago Sun Times:
For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.
It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.
Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.
But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....
The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.
"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''
Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....
Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.
Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:
* Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.
* Six buildings are currently boarded up.
* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.
* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.
* At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 9:56 PM
CABAL !
What is happening today - insistence of Hillary Clinton to continue the race to the end; is all the result of a plan drawn years back when Bill Clinton was at the end of his second term.
Like Bushes, Clintons was thinking of propagation-of-inheritence theory now being practiced in the largest democracy of the world and also in several republics and comunist countries like N.Korea and Cuba. They had to wait in giving
Son-of-Bush a second term and the Lady to mature with her first Senatorship.
NOW CLINTONS MUST RE-OCCUPY THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS!
I prey to God for US, for the World and for Humanity
Posted by: dchatterjee100 | March 31, 2008 9:54 PM
consignjp is a Hillary supporter and yet watchs Bill O'Rielly and knows exactly what he said. Come one, I know a snake when I see one. consignjp is a Republican just trying to help Hillary because he or she knows Obama is the stronger candidate. Naughty Republicans you should know that Obama WILL win the Primary and then the General Election and there is not a thing any of Hillary's or McCain's supporters can do about it.
Posted by: mscaife | March 31, 2008 9:51 PM
Hillary has tried the "kitchen sink" attack, and all that's happened is her poll numbers continue to sink.
She pretends she is the best qualified to get a phone call at three a.m., then blames Bosnia-gate on being sleep deprived.
And today we find the "universal health care" champion put her campaign workers' own insurance policy at risk.
Even with his lousy bowling score, it is clear that Barack Obama remains a far better candidate.
Obama-Webb, 08!
Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | March 31, 2008 9:47 PM
Hey eveybody I can do math.
Obama has 170 more pledged delegates than Hillary.
Obama is now about even in Superdelegates with Hillary.
Obama is way ahead in the populor vote.
Obama is ahead by double digits in North Carolina and Indiana.
A new Gallup Poll that came out today shows Obama with a 10 point lead.
Face it Hillary is dead as dead. Obama has won and will soon be know as President Obama and will be the first President since Carter that American's can be proud of.
Posted by: mscaife | March 31, 2008 9:46 PM
Will be real Obama please stand up?
I find it interesting that some of Obama's current positions directly contradict what he ran for while a politician. Of course, if anyone brings out such discrepancies they will be accused of being a racist. When you look at what Hillary actually said about President Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act:
"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to get it done."
The way that the Obama people turned such a factually correct statement into a racial flap, shows that the Obama people will label any critism as racist.
Do we want a president that we can't speak up against without being called a racist?
No Kool-aid for me.
Posted by: dcpsychic | March 31, 2008 9:45 PM
WE The People, generally cannot allow the mistake of another Bush in the White House. Period. =)
(They really just handed the nomination to him the first time around definitely. Somehow people didn't end up fired or giving Gore the nomination he downright won).
Posted by: Obama2008 | March 31, 2008 9:44 PM
If Clinton failed to pay her medical insurance premiums did the staffers lose their insurance? If insurance was not cancelled due to failure to pay premiums, why not? There are millions of Americans who have lost their insurance becuase they could not pay their mopnthly premium. This is one mistake after another. I just don't want thiese kinds of mistakes in the White House.
Posted by: cherlesq | March 31, 2008 9:40 PM
Obama or Hillary '08
In the meantime, GO OBAMA!!!!! =)
Posted by: Obama2008 | March 31, 2008 9:37 PM
My name is Hillary Clinton. I think I'm Jesus. I think Bill Richardson is Judas and has betrayed me. I also can not remember if I got shot at by snipers. I mean, I remember being shot at but nobody else does. When I get asked the first question at a debate I cry and complaign like a little school child. Then I complaign that everyone is mean to me because they point out the obvious (that being that I have lost). After that I complaign the press is mean too because I do not get all the attention like I like and the fact that they for some reason thought the fact that I lie all the time is a big deal.
Posted by: mscaife | March 31, 2008 9:37 PM
Obama supporters will do anything to supress the truth about him.
Its not going to work.
Obama's guaranteed to lose the national electon.
It would be nuts for Democrats to nominate him, regardless of what the current vote totals are.
The more we find out about Obama, the more we find that his "accomplishments" aren't his at all, but that he was given credit for the work done by others to make him look far more impressive than he actually is.
Obama is like a "Potemkin Village"
He looks good on the surface, but there's nothing behind it.
He's spent his entire political career running for office, and strong-arming people into putting his name on bills he never even did any work on.
The WP says so themselves in their recent article.
The NYT says "big image, little results"
All this will come out before the general election.
As will the truth about how his negligence led to people who voted for him freezing in slums in his district that Rezko, and in the rest of Chicago, that Rezko got $100M to repair, but never touched.
He can't win the general election.
But he can cause Democrats to lose it.
Everyone interested in the Presidential election should read the article that there's a link to at the bottom of this message.
Its from a Chicago reporter who's known Obama since the beginning of his career and has followed Obama's career ever since then.
The take-home message is that Obama is a total fraud, a manufactured product of the chicago politicial machine.
It tells about him stealing credit for bills he never worked when he was in Chicago, just like he did in Washington.
It talks about "Obama's Slums" and fact that Barry didn't care one bit about the people who elected him.
Its about the fact that Chicago Barry Obama is the one of the most clever con-men in the world and the biggest fraud that's been put over on the American public since Bush.
Its filled with facts about Obama from someone who has known him for years.
The title's cute. Obama isn't. He's a fraud.
news.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 9:30 PM
For the person who quoted Maya Angelou to describe Hillary Clinton, she should know that Maya Angelou is a supporter of Obama. She is not and has never been a supporter of Hillary.
Posted by: mscaife | March 31, 2008 9:29 PM
HILLARYL IS NOT QUITTING UNTIL THE LAST VOTE IS COUNTED
LIVE WITH IT!
Posted by: consignjp | March 31, 2008 9:26 PM
I cannot figure out why Clinton supporters still think she has a chance. The latest Gallup Poll shows Obama 10 points ahead. Polls also show that Obama is ahead in Indiana and North Carolina by double digits. This is on top of the fact that he is leading by over 170 pledged delegates and is well ahead in the populor vote as well. Furthermore, Obama has almost pulled even among the Super-Delagetes. Better yet, he just picked up one more key endorsement from a Senator and Super-Delegate in the Mid-West.
Face it! Hillary has lost. If she had any honor she would admit so, endorse Obama, and start campaigning for him as Mitt Romney has done for John McCain. Instead she has none and has simply decided to play the part of Tonya Harding in this election.
Posted by: mscaife | March 31, 2008 9:24 PM
Bill O'Reilly said tonight that he personally knew of at least 4 journalists from different newspapers who were urged by Obama people to put out headline stories calling for Hillary to quit and they of course were more than happy to oblige. That is just despicable. Here is a candidate that is rinning on a platform of change and then he pulls tricks like this??? Where is the change???? He is a low down lying American hating P-O-L-I-T-I-C-I-A-N. Not someone who is going to "unite" us. That is a big laugh. I would not vote for him no matter what.
Posted by: consignjp | March 31, 2008 9:22 PM
Yes, by all means Hillary should listen to Senator Leahy of Vermont.
Vermont, number one in the nation on the highest taxing states in the USA.
Hillary should listen to Leahy and do the opposite.
How can anyone other than an Obamanut, Obamarobot or member of the Cult of Obama vote for Obama? The man of the "new" politics and "change and hope" attracts the worst supporters. They are more vicious than GOP swift boaters in thie hate attacks on Hillary. Judging him by his supporters who supposely know him best tells me he is not qualified to be president.
Posted by: wj_phillips | March 31, 2008 9:19 PM
Dear Minions, I have again spent away all your money. Please send more money so I can spend it away again and be in debt. I do not believe in saving or fiscal responsibility.
Your Majesty, Queen Hillary
Posted by: BethesdaMD | March 31, 2008 9:14 PM
the delegate count will never be owned purely by any one of these candidates
w/o florida or michigan being counted
and...
if obama's supporters do NOT understand the difference between weighted proportional delegate counts
and national presidential elections in which major swing states like OHIO, PA and
michigan and florida and a very very few others...[none of obama's 'wins states, except maybe missouri which was not a convincing win for him]
...there will be MAJOR PROBLEMS within that dem convention...ok?
whom do you love?
a guy who makes you feel good but gets trounced in the general
like george mcgovern and/or walter mondale
or...
a true winner...
its not "THE GAY MATH GUYS" of the delegate counting bean heads here
its the meat and potatoes of national swing state [can you spell midwest for Karl Rove please]
....elections that determines this big leagues game
so put away you stupid obama "almost wins everything all the time from here on out"
but doesn't...ideas
and come in for the actual true math
ohio ...84 out of 88 counties for Hillary
by 65% or better..in each and EVERY demographic
EXCEPT THE URBAN VOTER...
i.e this trends kills the idea of wisconsin and iowa and upper virginia
which was flooded by republican and urban voters on oprah juice steriods
...the educated and the uneducated of Ohio's largest cities and towns and rural regions
simply did not buy into the oprah boy goes to washington slave narrative...
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 9:07 PM
I am not surprised by media coverage suggesting that Sen. Clinton could pull this out without destroying the party. Why? Because it's in the interest of the old establishment. Sen. Obama is a threat to the way politician haven been running Washington for the last 200 + years. "Big Money"!
Well, now there is some one who seems to challenge this tradition. Consequently, Sen. Clinton has been getting all the support and coverage she can get. She needs to win for "Big Money". And as it has been in the past, who has the power to override even verdicts from the supreme courts (Libby pardon) "Big Money" does. So do you think it will be any different this time around if Sen. Clinton or Sen. Mc Cain would be elected?
Michigan and Florida is a good example how some people are trying to give Sen. Clinton an advantage.
Sop using Sen. Obama's middle name to scare people. Haven't we had enough of this old scare tactic of the Bush government for the last 7 + years?
Let's have dialogue, not just a fight! We are no children anymore. We should be able to solve problems with dialogue not with muscles.
Why do we still talk about the Rev. Wright. I believe in the separation of State and church!
Popular vote? Are all the votes for Sen. Clinton really Democrats vote? Or are some Republicans voting for Sen. Clinton so the battle goes on and Sen. Mc Cain can win in November? Then we really will continue with the same "Big Money" in Washington.
It's not just about Sen. Obama vs. Sen. Clinton! It's about a new era in Washington.
Posted by: peter138 | March 31, 2008 9:03 PM
JakeD posted:
"According to Pennsylvania Republican Committee Spokesman Michael Barley, the GOP will mount a "pretty aggressive voter registration effort right after the primary," to get those who have switched sides back into the Republican fold."
Well, if they only changed affiliation in order to "game" the system, why would an "aggressive voter registration effort" be required to get them to re-register as Republicans? Wouldn't they do so automatically to avoid the continuing "stigma" of being registered Democrats?
Sounds more like the Republican Committee is worried sick that once they switch, they ain't comin' back. Who'da thunk'it? ;-D
Posted by: jk5432 | March 31, 2008 9:01 PM
in a word
only three urban centers of Ohio voted in majority for obama
none of the major rust belt cities and towns voted for him and they have sizable african american voter bases
in youngstown the voter percentages for Hillary was over 68%
in steubenville and related like smaller towns and cities..the totals almost exceeded 70% at times
in region after region, all across Ohio
in nice white affluent educated suburbs of Akron
obama's cross over voter appeal took a dive into the river of no return
if this actual "no white cross over" trend continues past ohio...into pa and indiana
its obama the freshman that ought to leave
and perhaps leahy could write his "exit strategy"
its NOT ABOUT DELEGATE COUNTS GIRLS AND GUYS
...its about who can win the big muscular states in teh fall...
and if you lose Ohio's 84 counties out of 88
its a good time to start thinking
"gee ted, gee john, gee bill .gee senator dodd
i kind of thought i could win something outside of wyoming and idaho and nebraska in the fall
but i guesss there's always vermont....
so much for a national "howard dean" 50 state strategy obama
50 states minus ohio, pa and indiana equals
a major loss in the GE
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:53 PM
Brains, not Balz, are required to be an effective president. Hillary has neither.
Posted by: vmunikoti | March 31, 2008 8:53 PM
Clinton did not win every region of Ohio with 65%. She lost the cities pretty handily. She did, however, crush Obama in all the rural counties and suburbs of Ohio. This shouldn't come as a surprise, given that these areas are populated by some of the most willfully ignorant people alive. They are the reason most intelligent people get the hell out of Ohio as soon as they're done with college. Seriously, if Ohio is supposed to typify the US, we're in big trouble.
Posted by: finkmo | March 31, 2008 8:52 PM
Stealing from their own employees... They have no shame whatsoever. And she's waging this furious battle to be crowned "Loser In November".
BTW, In contrast to the Democratic (BOY ! is THAT a misnomer !) Party, the Republicans have a very weird primary system. Their primary system is that whichever candidate gets the most popular votes, wins ! How Neanderthal is that ? !
Posted by: smithtownlady | March 31, 2008 8:49 PM
Dr. Maya Angelou originally supported Hillary but after witnessing Barack's speech on race she now supports him so lets change the refrain to Rise Barack Rise....
She will be at his inaugural and will bring better prose than she used for Bills inaugural
While on the subject Happy 80th Birthday Dr. Angelou. Happy Birthday to a true American Icon.
Posted by: pedraza1 | March 31, 2008 8:47 PM
I have been a republican since I graduated College. I have NEVER voted for a demo-crat... until now.
I will vote for OBAMA.
That is why he will win.
I would NEVER vote for H. Rodham.
I am from NY. I know better.
I can deal with McKain. Obama is my choice.
Posted by: jonesp13 | March 31, 2008 8:46 PM
Why do you think that most of the media is "in the tank" for Obama?
Note: The media is largely controlled and owned by conservative types.
Answer= Republicans would much rather run against Obama than Clinton.
Why? They know beating a man with little experience and racial hate connections would be easier than beating an experienced, moderate, tough, intelligent problem solver with women on her side.
Posted by: astone4 | March 31, 2008 8:45 PM
Hillary is dreaming. Will she realease the tax returns with her hubby bringing home millions in saudi cash? I doubt it and if she doesn't that will throw her in the barrel as well. Barack may lose PA but he won TEXAS as confirmed today and the loss in PA will be slim or none folks. Then:
Ladies and Gentlemen it is without question that Barack Obama will be the Democratic party nominee. He won more votes, more pledged delegates, more states. You cannot simply move the goaI posts any longer just ask Bobby Bowden or Nancy Pelosi. I for one appreciate the tempering Senator Obama has received from Billary's "kitchen sink, Tonya Harding" strategies. Senator Obama will be stronger for having risen above her divisiveness and our candidate will thus be prepared for the Karl Roves and their fear be afraid be very afraid techniques. The Democrats lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and of course the White House. Do we really want more of those results for our country?
John McCain a.k.a. Senator "McWar" cannot create more make believe boogeymen; the American people are now on to that b.s..
I fought in Iraq in the All Americans 82nd Airborne and join the now legions of my comrades opposed to the war which has cost 4000+ of my comrades in arms their lives and maimed another 25,000+. How much does a trillion and counting cost each American family? I ask any citizen who doubts the price of this war to visit the nearest Veterans hospital to them. The one I visit for therapy has a plaque on it that states The price of freedom is clearly evident here. The price for Iraq is way too high for a war which we should not be in. No WMD, No ties to Al Qaeda Etc. Etc. I pray that our country is really prepared to show courage and turn the page away from the dismal George W. cowboy with no guts or sense years and put our great nation on a better path.
Vote Barack Obama America!
Posted by: pedraza1 | March 31, 2008 8:41 PM
Why is it that most of the media in "in the tank" for Obama?
The major media is owned by conservative types.
What does this mean?...........
The conservative types would much rather run against Obama.
Why?
Because they know Hillary, even with her perceived negatives that the media loves to magnify, is a more substantial candidate and will definitely win in November.
Think about it.
The Republicans know they have messed up big and that they deserve to be put out of office for their mismanagement of our government under their watch.
The only chance they have short of a major catastrophe that they can spin to their advantage, is to have an inexperienced man linked to white and America hating as the democratic candidate.
Hillary has substance, intelligence, courage, and women in her corner. Very difficult to defeat.
Posted by: astone4 | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
on the 'poll shows obama winning in new york and california vs hilary"
.remember...the same usa today poll
showed obama winning the dem primary by 13% points vs hillary...
he lost by that margin ...did he not?
in california?
and he lost big time in OHio to Hillary
84 out of 88 counties
does this MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT OHIO's demographics mean to national elections
just ask Karl Rove and W2 ...if they understand what this means and i will tell you exactly whom do they fear
as the dem nominee..its not obama's moma
....and it ain't no body w/ the middle name that matches some of our worst media driven "hated" arabic names...
...its just bizarre..guys...
when Hillary wins in pa, and wva and kentucky
it will be a lot more clear than what some of these folks who have drunk too much oprah juice ...can fathom right now
you must be in your first ever national prseidential race...
because..if you don't understand
what 84 counties of 88 counties in ohio
w/ EVERY region and EVERY sector of Ohio
going over 65% for Hillary means...
...just ask Ed "i can't find my voice"
Kennedy
and John, "i did not know much about Ohio either" Kerry...
they did not understand ohio either...
go figure...who would have known?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
Stealing from their own employees... They have no shame whatsoever. And she's waging this furious battle to be crowned "Loser In November".
BTW, In contrast to the Democratic (BOY ! is THAT a misnomer !) Party, the Republicans have a very weird primary system. Their primary system is that whichever candidate gets the most popular votes, wins ! How Neanderthal is that ? !
Posted by: smithtownlady | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
Stealing from their own employees... They have no shame whatsoever. And she's waging this furious battle to be crowned "Loser In November".
BTW, In contrast to the Democratic (BOY ! is THAT a misnomer !) Party, the Republicans have a very weird primary system. Their primary system is that whichever candidate gets the most popular votes, wins ! How Neanderthal is that ? !
Posted by: smithtownlady | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
Stealing from their own employees... They have no shame whatsoever. And she's waging this furious battle to be crowned "Loser In November".
BTW, In contrast to the Democratic (BOY ! is THAT a misnomer !) Party, the Republicans have a very weird primary system. Their primary system is that whichever candidate gets the most popular votes, wins ! How Neanderthal is that ? !
Posted by: smithtownlady | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
I find it interesting that the pro-Clinton commentators are getting as shrill and abusive as their Hillary, while the pro-Obama crowd keeps calm, cool, and collected. As my grandmother used to say: In any argument, the one who shrieks is wrong.
Posted by: dunnhaupt | March 31, 2008 8:31 PM
If you only count the primaries where Hillary won, you can see quite easily that Hillary is going to win the nomination! All you need is a kindergarten education to realize this logic.
Sincerely,
Kindergartners for Hillary 2008!
Posted by: BethesdaMD | March 31, 2008 8:17 PM
I saw Eddie Rendell being interviewed. He actually resorted to the "32 minute basketball game" analogy used by James Carville. Imagine that your personal argument is so weak that you feel you must resort to borrowing lines from JAMES CARVILLE! (Ann Coulter without hair!)
Where's the barf bag???
Posted by: togaent2001 | March 31, 2008 8:14 PM
I know I will be voting for McCain if Barack H. Obama is nominated. I also know that the media machine is favoring Barack so that McCain can squish him come November.
Posted by: ekjon_us | March 31, 2008 8:14 PM
Clinton finance committee member leaves after unauthorized charges
By Kathy Miller | The Hillary Project
Posted 21 hours, 15 minutes ago email to friend tool nameclose
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By: Matt Friedman
Politicker NJ - A member of the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign's finance committee resigned last month after she said the campaign billed her credit card thousands of dollars in unauthorized charges. She is now backing Barack Obama, according to a post she made on Bluejersey.com.
Kathy Callahan, a Psychotherapist from Ridgefield, said that after making an initial donation of $2,000 to the Clinton campaign with her credit card, she was repeatedly charged at least $3,500 more.
"They had my number on file and they kept using it like it was their own. I was blindsided," she said in a telephone interview with PolitickerNJ.
After trying to get her money back, Callahan said that a Clinton official said ""Kathy Callahan, you are going to be with us all the way to the White House...So let's leave the money where it is and we'll save time on inevitable future donations and transactions!"
Reports filed with the Federal Election Commission show Callahan donating $5,500 to the Clinton campaign between March and October of 2007 - that's $900 more than the legal limit of $4,600 for the primary and general elections combined. She received $5,800 back from the campaign -- $1,200 on November 2nd and three separate checks for a total of $4,600 in December.
After a month of trying and failing to get the bulk of her money back, with the exception of the one refund in November, Callahan eventually filed a report with the Ridgefield Police Department - at which point she said she was reimbursed her money by the campaign.
Posted by: tiskono | March 31, 2008 8:13 PM
I bet most of the people squabbling over whether Obama or Hillary should get the nomination are either Republicans mounting a covert campaign to divide the Democratic party, or Democrats who have stupidly joined the fray and don't realize that they are doing the work of Karl Rove.
The most important improvement that the country can achieve in 2008 is the election of a Democratic president -whoever that may be. The alternative is pretty obvious from the results of the last 7+ years - more unnecessary war, recession, corporate cronyism, and reckless spending. The amount of money that this administration has borrowed from foreign countries is greater than all previous administrations combined.
McCain has dropped so many of his principles pandering to the far right, he will soon have as many values as he has constructive policy ideas - roughly zero.
Posted by: ArmyBrat68 | March 31, 2008 8:12 PM
There should be another two dates just as important if not more,that is the revote dates in Michigan and Florida. Obama is trying to steal the nomination by disenfranchize 4 million voters. Howard
Dean and Obama are so afraid of revotes, because they know the people will select the right nominee, that is Hillary, so they do every thing to block the process,first they said there was no money, now they said there is not enough time and not allowed by law. I have a suggestion here, send letters to all those Dem voters who already voted, tell them if there is no revote, than their votes should be counted as they voted in the first ballot. It is not the voters fault that the primary dates were moved up, why they should be punished, besides it was the GOP administraion made the decision,even if Hillary made the agreement to go by the rules, because she has no right to do so, neither does Howard Dean. That is in violation of the US constitution. If DNC still does not allow the revotes, all the disenfranchised voters should vote for McCain instead of Obama, as Obama is not a legitimate nominee under the equal protection act in the constitution without Florida and Michigan.
Posted by: johnycheng1 | March 31, 2008 8:11 PM
Latest polls head-to-head with McCAin show that Obama is actually doing better than Hilary in many of the big blue states lke CA, NJ and NY. See Rasmussen and Survey USA.
Posted by: zbob99 | March 31, 2008 7:57 PM
All the major polls are turning in Obama's favor, several reports indicate the Clinton campaign is running out of money; and the supers are getting anxious. This all points to a quicker end than many think.
Posted by: zbob99 | March 31, 2008 7:54 PM
Let's see - the big populous staes of Connecticut, Wisconsin, Virginia, Missouri as cited by jac13.
Electoral votes Connecticut - 7; Missouri-11; Virginia - 13; Wisonsin-10 won by Obama. Now let's compare with ... California -55; New York - 31; New Jersey -15; Massachusetts -12; Ohio - 20; soon to be PA - 21; Florida ... 27 ... Michigan ... 17 ... I don't know, but when I do the math here, it sure seems like Hillary has won the states with the biggest electoral votes.
Kind of going to be hard to win in November without the states Hillary has won. Idaho-4, Wyoming-3, Montana-3, Iowa-7, So. Carolina-8... hmm, I don't know those states aren't likely to vote blue in November and even if they do ... that's a hard way to get to 270 ...
Posted by: cate58 | March 31, 2008 7:53 PM
The turning point already happened. We are now waiting for Ms Inevitable to withdraw.
Posted by: zbob99 | March 31, 2008 7:52 PM
mo897:
My sentiments exactly.
Posted by: JakeD | March 31, 2008 7:48 PM
Mr. Balz forgot to mention, Barack Obama is now ahead in delegates in Texas. And, Bob Casey's endorsement of Obama holds a lot more weight in Pennsylvania than Fast Eddie Rendell does for Hillary. (The more we see of Rendell all over the tube, the more we understand Clinton "machine" politics.
Posted by: joy2 | March 31, 2008 7:48 PM
However the votes fall in the remaining primaries, it will be a great example of democratic process to have the nomination open at the time of the Democratic convention, so that we can see how ALL the delegates end up voting, as well as how the credentials committee handles Florida and Michigan. If Obama is the right person for President, then he and his supporters should have absolutely no problem with allowing this scenario to happen. And, this scenario is completely allowed and supported by "the rules."
Posted by: mo897 | March 31, 2008 7:47 PM
gorgegirl:
Arguably, the CAUCUS selection method is MORE democratic (i.e. mob rule) than primaries or even the Electoral College. Maybe you are just upset about the non-secret ballot thing instead? Would you be upset about the caucus method if she won them all?
Posted by: JakeD | March 31, 2008 7:39 PM
If it wasn't for my kids and grandkids, I would like to see Obama elected, and let some of you see what he would do. He want be able to do anything constructive. The congress would not go along with anything he wants for the good of the country. I think in two years of his leadership, they would be trying to get him out of office. I have said before that there are several blacks that would be good presidents. Some are J.W. Watts, Condi Rice, Colin Powell and probably others, but not this Arab. He has too much baggage. Four years ago Jesse Jackson won SC in the primary, but look up the records and see how bad Bush won in the general election. This is the way it will be in the southern states.
Posted by: barefootboy | March 31, 2008 7:37 PM
What's the rush Obama? Afterall, we have a total of 50 states and all voters should have an opportunity to voice their choice of a candidate for president and that includes Michigan and Florida. And then, you need to remember that there are no caucuses in the general election-those easy to win, undemocratic meetings you won so easily. How in the heck are you going to be able to deal with that? The bias of the media has been absolutely disappointing to those of us who believe in freedom of the press but believe firmly that the job of the press is to leave their personal feelings out and report the facts. So naturally you will not be prepared for the 527's that will be unleashed in the general election. You are not prepared to be president. You have LIED about legislation you said you passed (Nuclear bill) and you have lied about legislation you said you helped with (Immigration) and you have lied about your relationship with Rezko and the amount he gave to your campaign, and you lied about taking lobbyist money, you campaigned in Florida for 2 weeks prior to the primary there. Your patriotism is a question for me as is that of your wife, Michelle. I can't get her words out of my head "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country" and I remember that for 20 years you sat in Rev Wright's church and listened to his words of hate for white people and your country and you did NOTHING...like walk out, like talk to the pastor about the influence his speech has on dividing black from white. It isn't that we aren't ready for a president who is black, you just don't have the experience or my trust.
I hope the Super Delegates see that Hillary Clinton is the agent of change and support her candidacy for president. Or else, I'm relegated to stay home or vote McCain.
Posted by: gorgegirl | March 31, 2008 7:35 PM
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SUGGESTING NEW RULES AND DATES TO WATCH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIMARIES. IF THEY ARE THAT CONCERNED THEY SHOULD TALK TO THE JERKORAMA TEAM AND FORCE THEM TO HAVE REDO PRIMARIES IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA. WITHOUT THEM, THE CLAIM OF BEING AHEAD IS A HOAX, A LIE AND FRAUD.
VOTE NO TO JERKORAMA AND HIS BAND OF LIARS.
Posted by: tahirn | March 31, 2008 7:29 PM
Quite a coincidence that these politicians from Arkansas never know when the game is over. First was Huckabee hoping for a miracle, now the Clintons wishing for a disaster for Obama. Somebody please tell me what it is with this state's politicians. It's unforgivable that the Clinton camp wants superdelegates to vote their conscience and then when Gov B. Richardson did, they thought he owed them. Incedible.
Posted by: woodfree1 | March 31, 2008 7:25 PM
storyofthefifthpeach, Yes I knew Obama won some southern states. He did not win TN, AR, TX, FL and a couple of others. But what I was trying to tell you is most of these states are now Republican states. Check their voting records for the last 30 years. I live in Clay County FL and it is a large county. They never have anyone even run on the democratic ticket. If you vote in this county, you vote for a republican. Get your facts straight before you accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about.
Obama will not be your president.
Posted by: barefootboy | March 31, 2008 7:24 PM
Well, svreader, if you asked Hillary what her MIDDLE name is, I doubt she would say "Rodham" -- I do agree with you that only the Electoral College numbers count -- see you around.
Posted by: JakeD | March 31, 2008 7:18 PM
JakeD --
You used her pre-marriage middle name, and capitalized it for emphasis.
You didn't understand my post.
I said that many women take their original family name as their middle name when they get married.
Her name is Hilllary Rodham Clinton.
As far as Ricks comment goes, it doesn't matter what the current numbers are.
Florida and Michigan need to be counted as do the states that haven't voted yet.
The most important issue, though, is that Obama's completely unelectable in a general election.
The issue of him going to a racist, ant-semitic, anti-white church for 20 years isn't going to go away, and neither is his comment about "typical white people" or the fact that he lied about his connection with Rezko and the fact he let the people who voted him into office freeze.
This isn't a high-school football game.
Barry Obama's not Presidential material and may never be.
He can't win a general election and Democrats can't afford to lose yet again.
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 7:15 PM
I have a strange feeling that Obama is nothing more, nothing less than a romantic soap bubble. Such bubbles usually last for only a few month and then it´s too late. Think twice.
Posted by: royrichard | March 31, 2008 7:14 PM
Bruce:
If you are interested in how the Electoral College (the only vote that counts) is lining up so far:
McCain (324) vs. Obama (205)
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Mar31.html
McCain (278) vs. Clinton (229)
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/Mar31.html
Posted by: JakeD | March 31, 2008 7:13 PM
Please, the Clinton hypocrisy is getting old. How many more times will she say out of one side of her mouth that the voters in FL and MI need to be heard, and immediately turn around and argue that the super delegates should overturn the rules and the voters, and anoint her the nominee. At this point, it's difficult to determine which is more offensive, her ongoing lies about Bosnia, NAFTA, SCHIP, FMLA or the hypocrisy.
Posted by: Foxfire1 | March 31, 2008 7:12 PM
The Democrats are going to lose this election. In the first place because they're obsessed with George Bush. It is simply amazing how deep this obsession goes. The man isn't even running for office but everything for the Democrats is about George Bush.
Sen. Obama has just spent days-or is it weeks trying to convince voters that McCain is secretly George Bush. No one who is actually awake and paying attention can possible buy that baloney. McCain doesn't even LIKE George Bush and for the last eight years has consistenly criticized his policies-particularly about Iraq. Obama bases his statement,that McCain is Bush in disguise, essentially on McCain initially voting against the Bush tax cuts but now McCain supporting them. Well yes, Sen. Obama, but that might just be because the country is currently teetering on the brink of a recession and ending the tax cuts now would be disastrous to the economy.
The second reason why the Democrats will lose is because they will not allow Michigan and Florida to vote. Perhaps the "party elders" feel that their future candidate doesn't need these states in a general election because the residents of both states will surely favor the nominee that they have had an opportunity to vote for-John McCain. The "party elders"-as evidenced by this past weekend's posse of pompous spokesmen, who all appeared to look like Sen. Dodd, have also called upon the first really qualified female candidate for the presidency to stop campaigning against their choice for president-the former member of the Rev. Wright's congregation, Sen. Obama who thinks John McCain is like George Bush.
The final reason why the Democrats will lose this election is because their current two candidates simply don't measure to the giant of a man who they will have to face. This a dangerous time for our democracy and the steely naval commander who spent five years being tortured at the Hanoi Hilton in the service of his country while only giving name, rank and serial number will be a hard man to beat.
Against the straight-talk express, the Democrats plan to field either a candidate whose very appearance on television causes a large proportion of the population to similtaneously clench its teeth; or,if the "party elders" have their way an inspiring public speaker who is inexperienced, shows questionable judgement, and when confronted often appears to be the proverbial deer in the headlights.
The "party elders"-who will soon be appearing with the three stooges-should withhold their superdelegate votes on the first ballot at the Democratic convention. What do they have to lose? A new name might be placed in nomination-perhaps someone who can even win.
If they don't, they might just find themselves under the wheels of the straight-talk express. They can always blame it George Bush.
Posted by: BruceMcDougall | March 31, 2008 7:08 PM
svreader:
I am not "bothered" when women still use their maiden name (as in "Rodham Clinton") when they get married. I don't even mind if they refuse to use their married name at all. But, why do you think that my pointing out the difference between a MIDDLE and MAIDEN name means I am "bothered" or sexist in any way?
infuse:
The "math" whereby she can still secure the nomination was posted (several times) above -- see "Rick Sloan" -- why are you ignoring that?
Posted by: JakeD | March 31, 2008 7:07 PM
Copyright Reverend Irving Wright with twenty years of Amens from Barry Obama
While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us repudiate a land that's so called free,
Let us all be hateful for a land that's so called fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.
God Da-mn America,
Land that I loathe.
Stand astride her, yet despise her
With a chip on a shoulder from above.
From the plantations, up to Harvard
To the Jews rich from our blood
God Da-am America, keepin' us down down down.
Posted by: rahaha | March 31, 2008 7:03 PM
Sorry ... can't post now ... sniper fire ... send marines ...must ... keep ... head ... down.
Posted by: BethesdaMD | March 31, 2008 6:58 PM
Now our reporters are Cultist.
If Obama loses NC he is done. Hillary gets the popular vote and Obama is the "black" candidate. I don't think he is going to lose NC.
The margin in Pa is important - IN is important.
We will see what happens but the media just can't add. Good article in USnews on votes. That is what people care about.
Posted by: mul | March 31, 2008 6:51 PM
infuse --
Nothing is as cold as what Barry did in Chicago.
How can anyone support Barry Obama when he let the poorest of the poor who elected him in Chicago freeze in slums in his district his friend and campaign contributor Rezok got $100M to repair or replace?
Obama knew, but did nothing.
That says everything.
Before you send any more of your, or your parent's, hard earned money to Barry Obama --
Please Watch this report on Obama, Obama's slums, Rezko, and $100M of wasted taxpayer money, from NBC news, Chicago's most respected TV news program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8&feature=related
How do you explain away the fact that Barry Obama never followed up on the 11 slums that his friend Rezko was supposed to repair in Obama's district in Chicago, and continued to do nothing about the 40 slums that Rezko was supposed to repair or replace in Chicago, even after Obama joined the US Senate?
From the Chicago Sun Times:
For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago's South Side.
It was just four years after the landlords -- Antoin "Tony'' Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru -- had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.
Rezko and Mahru couldn't find money to get the heat back on.
But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building....
The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.
"Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''
Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....
Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.
Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:
* Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.
* Six buildings are currently boarded up.
* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.
* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.
* At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 6:26 PM
svrepeater - I gave the link. Try to do a little something for yourself.
But I don't know how anyone could be so cruel as to allow health insurance for her staff to lapse. That's just so cold. Heartless.
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 6:15 PM
The only thing Hillary's campaign can hope for is for some unknown event or discovery that makes Obama worse than the devil. Of course that can happen, though it is not at all likely. If there were dirt, the Clintons would have been all over it by now.
The math does not support her contention that she can win. But she can still hold on to the illusion that Obama will somehow self-destruct and still be available in August. All she has to do is SUSPEND her candidacy.
That will allow the party to unite. She will have shown some grace and be recognized as a better person than what she shows now. But don't anyone hold your breath waiting for that to happen. She will take down the party with her stubbornness and inflexibility. That's only arrogant and vain. She has not shown any class.
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 6:12 PM
check out this...
did Hillary truly mis speak about entering bosnia in a war time and high security moment on a fire base in Tuzla?
w/ snipers near her?
i wonder..
check it out and maybe the national media
needs to apologize to the first lady...
and the world needs to know she did NOT just greet a young woman but she actually traveled under the intense security of fighter jets and sniper assignments...http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/25/224531/594 Lexis-by Ron Fournier, AP, March 25, 1996 Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday to deliver a personal �thank you� to US troops�Mrs. Clinton hosted a USO show with comedian Sinbad and singer Sheryl Crow�highlight of her trip were visits to two fortified posts outside the US base in Tuzla. Even President Clinton, restricted to base by bad weather in Jan., did not see as much of this war-wracked region as Mrs. Clinton�Riflemen rushed to brush line as the helicopter landed and surrounded her as she walked in the post. Located in a �separation zone,� the US outpost nestles between two tree lines�Security was tight-fighter jets accompanied her C-17 cargo plane to Tuzla�
its an ap story found in the archives of Lexis who would have known????
maybe sindbad is the true poor memory guy after all?
Posted by: BigTimeOhioan | March 31, 2008 6:11 PM
Obama WILL NOT win:
Pennsylvania
Florida
Ohio
In fact, McCain is only single digits behind Obama in New York.
McCain by an electoral landslide.
Posted by: dyend | March 31, 2008 6:08 PM
svreader:
Why do I smell rev. Wright in your post? The only difference is Rev. wright was teh US hater and you are teh hater of US future-- i.e., teh young people of the USA. Don't spread such filth--
I forgot the name but remember teh post of few days back. The person wrote you had all teh fun in your youth and left an aids affected generation.
This group of youth are not the same as you have seen in your time. They can think too!!
Posted by: BASAB.DASGUPTA | March 31, 2008 6:07 PM
infuse --
I'm still waiting for that link.
As far as heartless goes, nobody is as cold as Barry.
He let the people who elected him FREEZE.
Posted by: svreader | March 31, 2008 6:03 PM
infuse: you mixed determination with stubbornness. Politics is never about flexibility if it matters to the politicians ambition. I can understand that. The same apply to Obama. Remember he was behind Clinton by 20% sometime not long ago? Did he give up? Things just change, and all you can do is do what you have to do.
BTW, I never like Clinton personally, but I think she is ready to do the job because she works really hard. This is the quality that differs greatly from Bush. For the rest, I really do not expect her to entertain me, but there is alway Bill, right?
Posted by: work2play | March 31, 2008 6:03 PM
It is utterly absurd to push Senator Clinton to quit the race. I am brought up to believe in the spirit of competing to the end, give your best, never give up regardless whether you win or lose in the end.
In this Democratic Party race, it is clear that the surrogates for Senator Obama push for Senator Clinton's premature departure. I hope she keeps on running.
Having said this, both Senators need to make sure that they and their supporters do not injure the other candidate so severely that the ultimate winner has no chance to compete in the general election.
See on this,
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/03/clinton-and-oba.html
Posted by: bn1123 | March 31, 2008 6:02 PM
svrepeater - now that you know Hillary doesn't care who has health care, how can you support her? Her plan for health care is just like her landing in Bosnia. She made it up.
She dumped on her campaign staff. You know she will dump on you and more. She is really heartless.
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 6:01 PM
You libs are DOOMED!
Posted by: cschotta1 | March 31, 2008 5:58 PM
Trying To Remain Optimistic
The media is so unfair toward Hillary Clinton. Across the board, everywhere you turn, the deck is stacked against Clinton.
If Clinton was to wish her Mother a happy Mother's day, the press would report it in a negative way: "Clinton was late in wishing her Mother a happy Mother's day;will this hurt her 2008 bid for president." I am not exaggerating. I am tired of watching, haring and seeing it on the TV.
Think about it, does anything happen for Clinton good? It's obvious, the media hates her and the Republicans fear her. The Obama campaign tried to counter Clinton's camp complaints by adopting their complaint. CNN's Anderson Cooper endorsed the Obama claim the media wants to run against Hillary so they are attacking Obama. I did not know he had so many blind supporters. It is so obvious who is being attacked 24/7.
The media will get to Barack Obama soon enough; they must make sure Clinton is out of the picture. For now, I dare WP to write something positive about Clinton.
Joseph
Posted by: joseph_b26 | March 31, 2008 5:57 PM
work2play - you present stubbornness as though it is always a virtue. Most of us got past that idea by watching Bush.
If you believe Hillary is like that, I can't imagine why you would support her. INFLEXIBLE is not what I want to see in a president.
Posted by: infuse | March 31, 2008 5:55 PM
So Hillary lost 50 cents as a supporter. That will probably help her. Sometimes certain people hurt you when they support you. I remember one time a sheriff running for re-election and he asked a certain barber not to support him, that he did more harm than good.<

Quit it wil you! Obamas claim to the nomination is based on a majority of caucus states where the real die-hard Obamafanatics showed up and took over the voting. Any legitimate state where the voters actually got to cast a vote, Obama lost. Look at Texas - Popular vote to Clinton. Caucases - Obama. Too bad the national election wasn't all cacauses - Obama might stand a chance. I was caught up in the nitial euphoria of Obama. Unfortunately in the past month he has totaly unraveled. For the good of the party he should withdraw.