Bill Clinton's Bosnia Comments Revive a Controversy
Tonight, Fact Checker Michael Dobbs gives Bill Clinton three Pinocchios for his remarks in Indiana, above, which renewed controversy over Hillary Clinton's 1996 trip to Bosnia. Read his take here.
Posted at 8:03 PM ET on Apr 11, 2008
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What's up with Bill? Is he deliberately trying to sabotage Hillary's campaign?
Probably not intentionally. He reminds me of a talented but overindulged child who grew up to be an accomplished, but undisciplined and somewhat spoiled adult. This is probably the first time in his life that he has to face the possibility of not getting something he desperately wants, and he doesn't know how to handle it.
Posted by: rmpatera | April 14, 2008 4:40 PM
I hope no one is fooled by this scripted routine by the Clintons. President Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton are no fools and his reviving this issue is no accident but a calculated risk/scheme to use the same tactics allegedly used by the out going president of Taiwan. It is alleged he hired someone to shoot him in the leg because he felt he would loose the elections. He won that election with the sympathy vote. President Clinton sensing his wife's defeat, in desperation, is sighting his wife's age and fatigue for her vivid inaccuracies of the event is merely a plot for the sympathy vote for the tired old woman (Hillary) at 60. It worked in Taiwan. The timing of President Clinton's apparently naive but foxy move is no accident. The effect of Senator Obama resent intentionally misunderstood comments plus Hillary's premature senility can be greater then the sum of the two. We are very fortunate that we can see through this and not be fooled by this gimmick. They cannot be trusted. Make me worry about that 3am phone call.
Posted by: nonrev | April 14, 2008 8:42 AM
First, Hillary sees imaginary sniper fire.
Then, she says she "misspoke" but others are "elitists."
Now, she tells us she hunted at as a girl.
Seems like every time she opens her mouth these days, some kind of weapon comes out.
Posted by: Robert Campbell | April 13, 2008 1:57 AM
In as much as i love the Clintons, I can't stand their Blatant lies. The sniper Fire story was told on three ocassions that I can remember and on dealing with this issue, just like HER Vote for war in Iraq, her explanation has been a real Joke and slap in the faces of all Americans. She came out and said she made a mistake and she is human just like everyone else but some people might call it a Revalation, and so?. This response to all of us was shere ARROGANCE AND DISRESPECT.You make a mistake ONCE but the second and third time, with a broad smile on your face, is SHAMELESS, DELIBERATE LYING about your 35 year career Experience you have been claiming your whole Campaign.If this was Obama, It could have been MERE TALK, Lying about his experience or somrthing really negative to hunt him for a month or so. But the media went soft on this arrogant explanation for only 24hrs and it died down. To me and most Americans, Obama is the most truthful candidate of the two. He comes out, appologizes even for things he hasn't said, and calls on people to unite around a common goal of the campaign. That is someone I would like to lead this Country. So. OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | April 12, 2008 5:07 PM
So if Hillary wins the Presidency we can expect that Bill will shoot from the hip as he pleases about anything he wants to whether it might compromise the US. . After all, if he can't contain himself with his wife, why should she expect him to keep his mouth shut later? We don't need "The Clintons" presidency. We must support Obama who thinks before he speaks.
Posted by: Maureen | April 12, 2008 11:53 AM
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HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR
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Posted by: . | April 12, 2008 11:53 AM
Keep talking Bill, just keep talking. You'll torpedo Hillary's chances for the nomination and the White House for sure! Just keep stumping the hustings for Hillary!! Dig her hole deeper; we'll even get you a backhoe if you need some help! Dig, dig, dig . . . just like Al Campanis and Jimmy the Greek. Just tell us how you really feel . . . ;)
Posted by: DCforObama | April 12, 2008 11:10 AM
Hillary is Bush with no balls.
Posted by: Anonymous | April 12, 2008 9:49 AM
Forbs
Obama's Magic Numbers
In recent weeks, Trailwatch has repeatedly discussed Hillary Clinton's poor prospects for catching Barrack Obama in the delegate race for the Democratic nomination. It is starting to look like Obama can now win enough delegates, 2,024, to secure the nomination before the Democrats meet in late August.
As of today, our affiliate Real Clear Politics tells us that Barack Obama has 1,641 total delegates and Hillary Clinton 1,505. So let's turn to the Forbes Delegate Counter and plug in poll projections for the remaining contests.
The biggest prize ahead is the April 22 contest in Pennsylvania, with 188 delegates at stake. RCP's latest average of polls has Clinton ahead by nearly 8 percentage points in the Keystone State. Assuming this spread holds once the undecided voters make up their minds, Clinton would win 54% of the vote and 85 delegates to Obama's 46% and 73 delegates.
A similar exercise in North Carolina, where the polls currently have Obama with a 16-percentage point lead would deliver 67 delegates to Obama and 48 to Clinton. Real Clear Politics shows only three polls for Indiana, of which Clinton has a 9 point lead in two of them. For argument's sake, we will give her a 10 point lead and 40 delegates versus 32 for Obama.
Real Clear Politics does not have poll numbers for the remaining states, but Obama has a 5.8 percentage point lead over Clinton in RCP's average of national polls. Even if we were to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt and split those remaining contests 50/50, Obama comes out with 1,922 and 1,787 for Clinton.
These calculations still leave Barack Obama more than 100 delegates short of the total needed for the nomination. So let's go to the superdelegates.
At present, 315 superdelegates are still up for grabs. Using our Delegate Calculator, it becomes clear that Obama would need to win just 33%, or 104, of the remaining 315 superdelegates to get over the top.
--Steve Kichen
http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/04/obamas-magic-nu.html
Posted by: . | April 12, 2008 5:10 AM
The Clintons seem to get into trouble all the time with their comments or what wrong they do. It's strange that they keep doing the same thing over and over again. It'll be better for them to learn from their mistakes and improve.
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Posted by: Tim | April 12, 2008 4:56 AM
For the Clintons lying comes so easy that they don't even think that they are lying. They feel that as long as the people don't catch the lie it is fine and dandy. If the public spots the lie, just cover it up with another lie or just distract them by throwing some other news bit for them to talk about. This is the main reason why the Clintons came into this campaign season with a feeling that they can withstand any opponent and that they are entitled to win the white house nomination.
If you notice the ease with which Bill Clinton resurrected the Bosnia story (lie) in front of a small group of people and his continuing rants about how the media and the opponents were making it look like a bank robbery, you will realize that this guy dos not follow the same moral values in telling the truth like the majority of Americans. He expects the people to buy into his lies.
The Clintons are a very pathetic family indeed.
Posted by: Kimberly Simpson | April 12, 2008 4:23 AM
The 44th President of the United States
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
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Posted by: . | April 12, 2008 1:49 AM
HILLARY LOST !
Forbs 4/11/08
Obama's Magic Numbers
In recent weeks, Trailwatch has repeatedly discussed Hillary Clinton's poor prospects for catching Barrack Obama in the delegate race for the Democratic nomination. It is starting to look like Obama can now win enough delegates, 2,024, to secure the nomination before the Democrats meet in late August.
As of today, our affiliate Real Clear Politics tells us that Barack Obama has 1,641 total delegates and Hillary Clinton 1,505. So let's turn to the Forbes Delegate Counter and plug in poll projections for the remaining contests.
The biggest prize ahead is the April 22 contest in Pennsylvania, with 188 delegates at stake. RCP's latest average of polls has Clinton ahead by nearly 8 percentage points in the Keystone State. Assuming this spread holds once the undecided voters make up their minds, Clinton would win 54% of the vote and 85 delegates to Obama's 46% and 73 delegates.
A similar exercise in North Carolina, where the polls currently have Obama with a 16-percentage point lead would deliver 67 delegates to Obama and 48 to Clinton. Real Clear Politics shows only three polls for Indiana, of which Clinton has a 9 point lead in two of them. For argument's sake, we will give her a 10 point lead and 40 delegates versus 32 for Obama.
Real Clear Politics does not have poll numbers for the remaining states, but Obama has a 5.8 percentage point lead over Clinton in RCP's average of national polls. Even if we were to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt and split those remaining contests 50/50, Obama comes out with 1,922 and 1,787 for Clinton.
These calculations still leave Barack Obama more than 100 delegates short of the total needed for the nomination. So let's go to the superdelegates.
At present, 315 superdelegates are still up for grabs. Using our Delegate Calculator, it becomes clear that Obama would need to win just 33%, or 104, of the remaining 315 superdelegates to get over the top.
--Steve Kichen
http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/04/obamas-magic-nu.html
Posted by: Sean | April 12, 2008 12:43 AM
this is just a distraction from the real issues of race - it is now turned into the politics of haves and have-nots. Great masterful move really.
Posted by: sage | April 12, 2008 12:44 AM
The time for change is here now, Vote for our leader Obama . Lets make America the America we dream of.
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44th President of the United States:
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
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Posted by: Sean | April 12, 2008 12:46 AM
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44th President of the United States:
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
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Posted by: . | April 12, 2008 12:39 AM
Hillary said:
"I'll fight for every single job in America - and create millions of new, high paying jobs
that can't be outsourced. President Bush has stood by and watched as we've lost 3
million manufacturing jobs. And he's done nothing about the loopholes in our tax code
that actually encourage companies to ship jobs overseas."
Clinton campaign was supposedly "outraged" by NAFTA... but this wasn't her story when her husband, during his administration, pushed this calamity through. She praised NAFTA saying it was good for New York and America. http://www.politicswest.com/20681/did_clinton_explicitly_support_nafta
While most think the constant patterns of lying is insignificant, it speaks clearly to the candidate's credibility or the lack thereof. Of course we are expected to forget... The lies about Bosnia (sniper fire) that husband Bill brought back. She embellished the hospital story in which both mother and infant dies. She distanced herself from Mark Penn who was actively pushing to expand NAFTA into South America, but she state that she is opposed to it. Now he's demoted, not fired. Clinton is insulting the American's intellegence. Honest? or Dishonest? You make the call!
Posted by: Gwen | April 12, 2008 12:16 AM
It's not just the lying that bothers me about these two. It's that it's so blatantly shameless. We now know the truth, they know we know the truth, and still they get up in front of the cameras and think we'll swallow whatever they tell us... again!
"I did not have sex with that woman."
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
How many times do we have to relearn this lesson about the ease with which the Clintons lie to us? We know what they are: shameless, pathological narcissists that can disregard the truth whenever it suits their whims. Does America really need four more years of never being able to take anything our president says at face value?
Posted by: whatmeregister | April 12, 2008 12:10 AM
I was ready to forget the Bosnia incident as a small lie from Hillary and vote for her. But now that Bill has resurrected the story and sarcastically denounced the media and everybody else for something Hillary said, I am not going to vote for Hillary anymore.
Posted by: Mary Ann Leahy | April 11, 2008 11:48 PM
So now Bill, the $800,000 shill for Colombian trade, has lied to cover Hillary's lies about Bosnia.
This should surprise no one. We are all seeing the pattern of lying from both of them.
Shame on you, Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Earl | April 11, 2008 10:46 PM
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HILLARY VOTED FOR THE WAR
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Posted by: . | April 11, 2008 10:26 PM
one time?? late at night?? immediately apologized??? who you kidding???
Posted by: jencm | April 11, 2008 8:29 PM
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