From Scripted to Spontaneous on the Obama Train
By Shailagh Murray
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Barack Obama wrapped up his whistle-stop train tour with a final rally here tonight, ending a day of striking visuals and stark rhetoric in advance of Tuesday's primary.
Obama is a bona fide political celebrity, and tickets to his events are often snapped up days in advance. Hundreds of people typically show up outside anyway, eager to catch a glimpse. Small towns have been off limits because the venues they offer are too small. But high school and college gymnasiums? Obama has seen quite a few.
The five rallies Obama held today, in contrast, took place outside rail stations along the route from Philadelphia to Harrisburg, and they had an unusually spontaneous feel. In Paoli, Obama's speech could be heard from two blocks away, and people running Saturday errands wandered over to the station to listen. In Downington, some showed up with their dogs, or in jogging clothes. People who lived nearby sat on their front porches and watched from upstairs windows.
Obama was clearly enjoying himself. He grinned like a kid all day, calling out "all aboard" to his staff and press corps and describing the "toot-toot" sound of the horn to the Harrisburg crowd. "It was incredible fun," Obama exclaimed.
But he was a candidate on a mission: to shut down Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's candidacy as quickly as possible, starting with a strong showing in Pennsylvania on Tuesday.
"The fact is, she has a different idea about what is at stake in this election than I do," Obama said in Lancaster, part of a 10-minute riff that drew a sharp contrast with his Democratic rival. The nomination is within Obama's reach, and he was leaving no margin for error. "She is comfortable with the way Washington works," Obama continued. "She just wants to change political parties. I want to change how politics is done in Washington."
In Harrisburg, he added this line, "Sen. Clinton would be vastly better than George Bush would be, but that's a very low bar."
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Posted by: Wilford Brimley III | April 22, 2008 12:54 AM
DATELINE PA PRIMARY - TOMORROW 4/22/08:
My wife and I will both go to the polls and vote for Obama.
My 19yo daughter has come to the same conclussion (on her own) and will also vote Obama.
My divorced parents have also put their support behind Obama, and plan to vote tomorrow.
As a Central Pennsylvania resident for over 35 years, I never took Obama's "Bitter" comments as "elitist", and actually took more offense to McCain and Clinton's eagerness to play the "gotcha" game with those remarks. Unfortunately for both of them, they seem to have a disconnect with just how AWFUL things really are. Playing political games with wedge issues does not move our country forward. Let's move forward again!
OBAMA '08
OBAMA '08
OBAMA '08
Posted by: | April 21, 2008 12:23 PM
Questions ABC should have asked Mrs. Clinton:
1. Senator Clinton, you have been sleeping and keeping house with a known adulterer who also lied with his hand on the Bible. Why have you not denounced and rejected him? Does this mean that you approve of, even are yourself an adulterer, and have no respect for or do not believe in the Bible?
2. You kept your chief strategist, Mark Penn, on your payroll, although he had been working to pass free trade agreements with Columbia, also you continue to remain married to Bill, who also received $900,000 for such support, and millions more from China, Saudi Arabia, etc, known breakers of human rights and for China now with aggression against the Tibetan people. Are you therefore really for free trade and approve of China's and other nations' bad human rights record? Are you in fact a free trader and dictator at heart? Why have you not denounced and rejected Mark Penn and Bill Clinton?
3. Your daughter works for a hedgefund company on Wall Steet. Are you therefore a candidate for a hedgefund front and will take Wall Street over Main Street and over blue-collar workers? Why have you not denounced and rejected your daughter, Chelsea?
The ABC debate was disgusting--it was like watching a set-up/ambush/lynching of Senator Obama with the three on the stage doing a mob attack. It was more like a bunch of hoodlums against one honest man, with Hillary slugging him from behind. I am a senior citizen feminist who will never vote for Mrs. Clinton. Hillary believes she is entitled to her husband's ex-job, but most Americans dislike and distrust her, and on good evidence. We've watched Hillary lie with a smile on St Patrick's Day about coming under sniper fire in Bosnia. Watched her smile as she knee-caps Obama with distortions on words taken out of context. Watched her smile as she lies to blue collar workers about NAFTA and about her working class identity, she of the multimillions from shady off-shore corporations and with a Yale law-school degree put to the service of union-busting Wal-Mart. Senator Obama shows restraint and class in steering away from negative attacks on her, and whoa! is there a pile of *hit on record with the Clinton dynasty. Pardons in exchange for payback from criminals, Saudi millions for the Clinton Foundation, hundreds of thousands for support of the Colombian free trade treaty, etc, etc. Hillary cries for the camera to get the sister votes, chugs down whiskey chased with beer for the machismo barflies, and keeps intimate company with an impeached president caught lying with his hand on the Bible about not having sex with that woman. What does her sleeping with a proven adulterer and lying-under-oath President say about the company she keeps? The more we watch Hillary, the more we distrust her. The more we know Obama, the more he becomes our candidate to change dynastic business as usual in Washington. We citizens of the American Republic denounce and reject the Clinton dynasty. We want our democracy back.
Posted by: lyn | April 20, 2008 9:00 PM
This isn't an 'official' campaign site, it's not mine - but I found it. :-)
If you want to watch and/or hear all the Obama Pennsylvania campaigning in HD video:
http://ObamaPodcast.blogspot.com
All I can say is, Obama fans constantly amaze me with their efforts and dedication.
Posted by: Tom J | April 20, 2008 6:09 PM
MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)
If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith... Working Class :-)
p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...
You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)
Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...
Posted by: jacksmith | April 20, 2008 5:38 PM
edwcorey-You should have more sympathy for my lack of proper grammar.
I am the Victim of Democratic Government Control during my School Years! :-/
They were hoping to be developing a future Dimocrat-BUT, I stayed in school long enough to attain Republican Enlightenment! ;~)
Posted by: RAT-The | April 20, 2008 3:24 PM
tydicea -
Please provide links to accomplishments that demonstrate Barack Obama has put his country before his own agenda. Having looked in great detail at his history, I have found exactly the opposite.
Or maybe I misunderstand and you mean McCain who actually has put his country before his own agenda?
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 2:59 PM
What a little boy.
He can't be attacked directly because he has no record to attack. He simply HASN'T DONE ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE, although he makes a pretty good rock star. It is clear, however, many people don't mind flying blind and taking a leap of faith - lol.
Posted by: Maryann | April 20, 2008 2:55 PM
Role Model for Children - Obama
A few days ago Obama gave the 'finger' to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience. Is this type of malicious immaturity what you want your children to learn: lack of tolerance, vengeance and the bully mentality? After that one event, besides the mindless and uneducated, how could anyone seriously consider this Obama for any office?
Also, Obama's state-senate candidacy was launched at Weather Underground bombers Ayers house in 1995. Ayers who advocates the violent destruction of America may have much more to do with promoting Obama than we know. The organization MoveOn has aggressively intimidated delegates to vote for Obama and to shun Hillary and is likely closely connected with Ayers. Ayers finally got his bomb - Obama.
Obama also rigged his election to become senator by unfairly disqualifying his opponents. He did this by meticulously finding fault with each of the other candidates signed petitions until each of the contenders had to drop out, Obama was the last one standing, there was no election. This was another finger gesture towards the American public by Obama.
If this isn't enough, look at Obama's affiliations:
Wright
Meeks
Ayers
Abongo "Roy" Obama
Rashid Khalidi
Robert Malley
Hamas
McPeaks
Rezko
Auchi
And the list goes on...
This may be the time of the Anti-Christ, but do you want to be on the list of people who voted for him?
Posted by: Carlie Stearm | April 20, 2008 2:52 PM
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The 44th president of the United States
President Barack Obama
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Posted by: + | April 20, 2008 12:31 PM
America needs a president who puts the country before his/her own person agenda. We did not get that with Bush, look where his personal agenda(s) took the country. We will not get that with Hiliary, for her the presidency is not about the people, it is her entitlement. That leaves (1) clear choice. Vote smart, PA!
Posted by: tydicea | April 20, 2008 12:15 PM
"Finally - why are the only attacks on Obama with his past contacts? Because they can't attack him directly."
He is attacked about his associations because he doesn't have much of a track record, especially of accomplishment.
Posted by: Ed | April 20, 2008 11:43 AM
So anybody know if Senator Finger took his
"f aux face touch/flipping finger" act on the road.
Maybe he could have just taken the videos with him. There are many, many on YouTube.
Posted by: Truth Seeker | April 20, 2008 11:41 AM
Yeah we all knew the politics of hope would never get him over the finish line.
Posted by: mountain man | April 20, 2008 11:24 AM
Brewster's Millions in real life! :-(
...
Enjoy your moment in the Sun Obasama. Your simply being handed Rope!
Posted by: RAT-The
It's "you're," not "your," ignoramus. Your thoughts represent a primitive mentality. Evolve, chimp.
Posted by: edwcorey | April 20, 2008 11:09 AM
I find the desperation of the flailing, grasping,clawing Hillary supporters quite humorous.
FACE IT...THE LYING HILLARY HAS ALREADY LOST THE NOMINAION...GET OVER IT!
Posted by: CYNICAL_ME | April 20, 2008 10:17 AM
this time it is the voters who are swiftboated. too late ha ha!! or should I say two latte!!
Posted by: toot toot | April 20, 2008 10:14 AM
Pennsylvania Primary
Who do you predict will win the Pennsylvania Democratic Presidential Primary?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2127
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Posted by: Frank, Austin TX | April 20, 2008 10:12 AM
So some of you are not happy the way Barack Obama is using his campaign funds? making him look Presidential! what he is.
What about all the waste of money by Hillary ever day since February 5th, when she told us the nomination race would be all over! sorry was that just another Lie or the way she is wasting money on beers and and whisky chasers and she professes to be a good Methodist! perhaps just another lie, what is Truth! the debts she has!!!
Posted by: John B Sheffield | April 20, 2008 9:52 AM
OBAMAS WILY RACIST CARD - THE SIMPLE REASON WHY I´M NOT AN OBAMA FAN ANY LONGER:
Barack Obama has used the race-card in a tactical and wily way. On the very day when Martin Luther King died he campaigned in Indiana were primary is going to occur on May 6th. I dare say, his main goal WAS NOT to honour the memory of Martin Luther King. His selfish goal was to be ASSOCIATED WITH Martin Luther King in the eyes of the voters in Indiana and to campaign for the primary at the same time. Hillary Clinton went to Memphis to honour the memory of MLK and she didn´t misuse that important day.
Posted by: Elisabeth | April 20, 2008 9:26 AM
OBAMAS WILY RACIST CARD - THE SIMPLE REASON THAT I´M NOT AN OBAMA FAN ANY LONGER:
Barack Obama has used the race-card in a tactical and wily way. On the very day when Martin Luther King died he campaigned in Indiana were primary is going to occur on May 6th. I dare say, his main goal WAS NOT to honour the memory of Martin Luther King. His selfish goal was to be ASSOCIATED WITH Martin Luther King in the eyes of the voters in Indiana and to campaign for the primary at the same time. Hillary Clinton went to Memphis to honour the memory of MLK and she didn´t misuse that important day.
Posted by: eLISABETH | April 20, 2008 9:25 AM
THE DANGEROUS CANDIDATE:
Supporter of 'Infanticide' (late-term abortions) in Illinois!
Giving his opponent the "finger' (see You Tube)!
What an absolute low life----is this what we want for our children?
We know what he wants for his kids in taking them to hear HATE AMERICA!
Clinton vs. McCain in November...we KNOW THEY WILL STAND UP FOR AMERICA!
Posted by: Sean McM | April 20, 2008 9:17 AM
I hear that the "middle east" terrorists including Obama's muslim brethern are funding his campaign through Dearborn, Michigan connections. It is time MSM verifies this instead of sucking up to Obama
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 8:59 AM
f Florida and Michigan is not counted, this nomination is flawed and should be rejected. Obama wants to keep Florida and Michigan out which in terms of population is equal to keeping 20 states out ( like Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont, Washington DC and Wyoming).
I am surprised not a single Obama maniacs are responding to this math and they are the ones with the so called "mail order degreed" supporters who drink only at Starbucks. These 2 states are more important than the 20 rigged caucus states which Obama has "won".
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 8:39 AM
Obama is great at delivering prepared speeches with the use of a teleprompter, having studied Jeremiah Wright's mesmerizing techniques from the pews for 20 years. But he is halting, tentative, and weak when delivering impromptu remarks or answering debate questions. Obama loves to lecture white people on what is wrong with American society in his left-wing socialist agenda-Black Liberation Theology-opinion. His campaign is devoid any particular policy. "We are the 'hope".. of the future," sayeth the silver-tongued Obama."We can remake this world as it should be." Believe in me and I shall redeem not just you but your country with -"Hope" "Change" & "Words."
#1.HAMAS "HOPING" for "CHANGE" with OBAMA
04/14/08-JERUSALEM -Hamas has expressed "hope" Sen. Barack Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy. "We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the election Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip said., "I understand American politics and this is the season for elections and everybody tries to sound like he's a friend of the Israelis."
#2."If you look at Barack Obama's [diverse] audiences and look at the effect of his "words," those people are being transformed from what they were," "This young man is the "hope" of the entire world that America will "change" and be made better."said Louis Farrakhan.
#3. 07/22/07 - Hamas Manifesto reprinted on Rev. Wright's church's newsletter that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance Compares charter, calling for murder of Jews,to the Declaration of Independence.
#4..Sen. Obama enjoys a friendly relationship with terrorists Bill Ayers & wife, Bernadine Dohrn.In 1969, first condemned the United States for its pervasive racism, then formally declaring war against what the Weathermen called "AmeriKKKa. ......Rev. Wright would understand.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 8:37 AM
I am very surprised and sick and tired that the Clintons are so weird, trying to engage in subjects that are not related to the main issues that we will vote for, instead they go for destructive issues which show their way of competing, and telling their surrogates to tell what they do not want to say. This shows us the reality of her standings on essential issues, her main goal is to get to the White House and then increase their annual income of the US$ 100 million, her Husband will keep on collecting money from the Colombians and the Saudis for their Library. And just see the contributions money coming from where, insurance companies, big financial companies etc.........
For this is the reason I will vote for Obama
Posted by: Daw | April 20, 2008 8:16 AM
It is too bad that at this late date people are going to the internet posting things they think will scare people away from voting for Obama. I have followed this election from the beginning. I have been inspired by Barack Obama. I am going to trust him to do what he promised. How many times have we been fooled by career politicians who have promised us the moon? It is time for us to trust our instincts and vote for this young man. We must believe him and give him the chance to make this a better nation. Maybe he hasn't lived long enough to know how to stab in the back all of us who will vote for him and trust him to make this a better country. We must give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he will do what he says. Please put your fears away and vote for Obama!
Posted by: beccajo | April 20, 2008 8:09 AM
Obama is a horrendous off the cuff speaker.
Posted by: Machol | April 20, 2008 7:52 AM
Dear Leanza, I feel compelled to point out that your post is full of mis-statements. Mr. Obama never "Worked for" Mr. Ayers.
Mr. Ayers held one fundraiser for Obama, when he was running for the State Senate. Mr. Ayers was a one-time contributor to that campaign - $200.
Really, is this worth all your vetting? I don't think so, but if you do than I hope you are equally insistent on vetting everyone who has ever been on a board with the Clintons and everyone who has ever participated in a fundraiser or contributed to all their campaigns. Let's throw in anyone who has donated to the Clinton Library or the Clinton Foundation. That should keep everyone busy for a while. I mean just off the top of my head I can think of a half a dozen associates of the Clinton's who are now in jail.
Good luck with all the vetting - I'm going to concentrate on real issues.
Posted by: Denise | April 20, 2008 7:42 AM
Brad (7:01 AM) if you are looking for dangerous skeletons you will have to look into the Obama closet! He is betraying his own country an will for sure continue to do so. If he is elected President there is a great risk for a Third world war starting in the Middle East. One of his foreign endosers is Hamas and he has become a freind of all those who hates Israel. Hillary Clinton is a far better choice.
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 7:20 AM
Scary skeletons in Clinton's closet.
Not sure I would want to get too close to the Clintons!
1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to
-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
Posted by: Brad | April 20, 2008 7:01 AM
I thought that Obama would be o good choice. I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND. A MAN WHO CAN´T BE ELECTED WITHOUT MONEY (partly my money) AND A MAN WHO HAS PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE LACKING IN HONOUR should be carried away to the refuse dump as fast as possible. He is one of the most dangerous manipulators that I have ever seen and he will be a security risk.
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 7:01 AM
Gordon:
It is indeed sad that you will change your vote to McCain.
Too bad you swallow MSM crap whole. Didnt you swallow the same crap re Iraq? And are 4000 American soldiers not dead now bcos of MSM lies?
And are over 100 000 Iraqis not dead now bcos of MSM lies?
Will you be complicit in electing Bush's successor bcos you bought MSM lies AGAIN?
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Shame on you, Gordon. Shame on YOU.
Posted by: Genna | April 20, 2008 6:18 AM
I can't say my position any clearer than this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iLs-HI9I2k
Add all the current Bosnia, Penn Colombia crap - and a decision isn't that hard.
Posted by: EnoughNonsense | April 20, 2008 5:54 AM
Hillary was tape recorded in February bad mouthing Move-On as being pro-Obama because they are against all foreign military action and that the organization originally formed to help her husband during his impeachment was the reason that she lost all the caucus states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUP00H_RkRs
So...Hillary, Let me get this straight --
We have heard ad nauseum from you about the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy that attacks you and Bill at every turn -- and is just waiting to do so again.
BUT NOW --
You tell your fundraisers that there is a Vast Left-wing Conspiracy (headed up by Move-on) that is attacking you, bullying your supporters in all the caucus states there by losing them to Obama -- and is just waiting to do so again???
So -- we have a Vast Right-wing Conspiracy against you AND a Vast Left-wing Conspiracy also against you???
Is that the story - Hillary??
If so....then the question must be ---> who is left -- RIGHT ??
Hillary --- what are you saying??
The Right AND the Left are BOTH out to get you????
Is that the story, now -- Hillary ??
So, I ask you again --- the question has to be --> who is left? Right?
Hillary, you are losing it. You are out of two things -- potential constituents and your mind.
If the right and the left are conspiring against you --- MAYBE you are wrong for this race.
Think about it. Maybe your donors and funding support should think about it too.
Maybe they already are thinking about it.
You should consider an alternative to the Presidential quest --- you are out of options.
Posted by: GandalftheGrey | April 20, 2008 3:45 AM
Obama is just going to keep Dem's out of the White House this year. I hope the liberal blogs and newspapers are happy for selling us this guy and at the end when Hillary's chances are slim then we find out who the "real" Obama is. The Obama in Iowa would win. The Obama i know now.....McCain will wipe the floor with him. You know why? Because of people like me that voted Obama that see him very differently and will be voting McCain in the fall. I hope the media that hated Bush so much are happy.
Posted by: Gordon | April 20, 2008 3:42 AM
tinktank:Read his books or go to the internet
I did,He got my vote.
Posted by: bos123 | April 20, 2008 2:59 AM
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the 44th president of the United States
President Obama
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Posted by: + | April 20, 2008 2:44 AM
SWEETNESS -
OBAMA IS GOING TO DESTROY AMERICA. HIS CONNECTIONS WITH HIS SHADY RADICAL FRIENDS WILL PUT RADICALS IN POWER. TO SAVE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR HILLARY.
Posted by: unSWEETNESS | April 20, 2008 2:27 AM
words meant to create a negative reaction in the minds of REpublicans and Clintonites and KKK.
"Obama was clearly enjoying himself".
words meant to create negative reaction in the minds of Blacks and Obama supporters.
"He grinned like a kid all day",
the reality was :
"It was incredible fun," Obama exclaimed.
Posted by: dont just read | April 20, 2008 2:25 AM
I love it when people say "we don't know a lot about this man."
Try going to his website. You can download a 70+ page book that goes over what he wants to do as president. It's all there - and it's not platitudes and rhetoric.
Read his books, he's been incredibly open about his life all along.
Finally - why are the only attacks on Obama with his past contacts? Because they can't attack him directly.
I challenge someone to tell me something real that's wrong with Obama. What exactly do you think he's going to do that's "wrong"? Why are you afraid if he becomes President? What action do you think he'll do that will adversely affect your life?
Posted by: Sweetness | April 20, 2008 2:23 AM
Obama comes across as charming, athletic, competitive and immature...'toot toot'
Posted by: thinktank | April 20, 2008 2:21 AM
"Brewster's Millions in real life! :-(
Personally, I'd be pretty upset seeing my donations to this guy's cause getting wasted like this!
Enjoy your moment in the Sun Obasama. Your simply being handed Rope!
Posted by: RAT-The | April 19, 2008 9:36 PM"
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 2:21 AM
I can't believe now far people are willing to go to find "dirt" on Obama.
There's NO substance in any of these "connections." No policy drafted for these "radicals." People, look at the Republicans. So far each US citizen has given over $1000 of tax money to the war - that's free money to one of the largest embezzling jobs EVER seen by our government. And throughout all of this, Obama stood up and spoke against it.
He's an honest politician, and he'll be our president.
I'm from Chicago and saw the Sun Times and Tribune TRY to dig up dirt on him - what you're seeing now is the best the media can dig up. Look at it - nothing adds up to anything that affected our lives more than the destruction the Republicans have done to our economy, jobs, reputation, and HUGE spending.
This November is going to be a cakewalk. The polls aren't accurate right now because we have a split democratic party.
Posted by: Kristian | April 20, 2008 2:12 AM
What, Washington Post? Under "The Trail" there are 3 Obama articles, zero Clinton articles. She is campaigning in PA and you are ignoring it? Get over yourselves and at least try to APPEAR to be unbiased. She is the winner here...don't you think that matters?
Posted by: PA Voter | April 20, 2008 1:58 AM
A whistle-stop train tour? This clearly demonstrates he is NOT environmentally friendly.
Posted by: pahqlle | April 20, 2008 1:49 AM
Carolyn Grace's post is distressing. If guilt by association and innuendo counts, as Clinton clearly believes it does, then she is indeed toast. As for Obama's associates, the guiding principle seems to be that Obama is deceiving the public, hiding the truth of his real convictions. The implication of all the Wright and Ayers stuff is that these men's views grant us entré into Obama's "real" opinions and that Obama's public statements, two books and close friends' testimonials amount to a massive campaign of deception. Both Ayers and Wright are being depicted as marginal radicals. But the evidence suggests the contrary. Both are respected members of their communities, or at least they were before they became ammunition to bring down Obama. If Ayers is still the Weatherman radical he is made out to be, then the Univ. of Chicago should be condemned, Mayor Daley should be condemned and every public figure in Chicago who has worked alongside Ayers should be condemned. The implication is that Obama should have avoided contact with a social justice organizer that was in fact affirmed by the broader community. It's a lot to expect from him. I cannot figure out why our press does such a rotten job of helping us understand people like Ayers and Wright. Mostly they are used as scary cardboard cutouts in the smear Obama campaign. Where's our depth perception?
Posted by: B Jones | April 20, 2008 12:56 AM
hmmmm, you are all very interesting. Very interesting.
Posted by: Hunter S | April 20, 2008 12:50 AM
phillipa-
if you think you are a progressive, you should stop being a shill for the right wing, promoting their disproven BS from the 90s
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 12:38 AM
The context of the ridiculous "screwgate" statement- the Clinton administration is facing the loss of both House and Senate in 2004. HRC is talking about continuing to promote the progressive agenda, not worrying about who will vote for what- while the political analysts are telling the president to try to appease the rural voters with what is percieved to be their needs based on polling. Hillary loses this argument.
The context of the Obama comments- explaining why those not voting for him (white working class) are not doing so- Obama states that due to poor, unchanging economic condidtions, these people stick to "guns and God"- ignoring a heritage of religious belief and hunting, applying his sociology classes from college here.
Hillary, if you look at the 2 books that that quote comes from, is admired by the authors for standing up for what she believed in. Barak, on the other hand- allowed the single largest group of voters in the country (the average person lives more like Rosanne and Dan Connor than like the Huckstables or the Sex in the city ladies.
Leon
Posted by: | April 20, 2008 12:37 AM
Sharon, his best friends? Really? I happen to be one of his best friends from Chicago, and you have no idea what you're talking about. You should be ashamed of yourself posting that garbage. President Obama. Deal with it.
Posted by: AK | April 20, 2008 12:27 AM
Obamas Best Friends are like a file cabinet in the CIA, radicals, criminals,American Government haters, terrorist, and Muslim supporters. (rezko,wright,Ayers,siad,farakam,auchi etc)
Those were the people who got him from Chicago to here. The one who worked so hard for him, got him financing, helped him rise to the top, Those he will never forget, Those he owes everything to.
Some people want to Put Obama and his friends where they have all the top secret information on this country.
With Friends like that, No wonder he won't show any outward sign of tradition support for the country.
Does he not believe, Is he ashamed, will it embarrass or harm him. Why does he Flatly refuse to give more than words?
If you take away his speeches he has nothing.
Makes me think he is gonna take the country to the cleaners!
Posted by: Sharon | April 20, 2008 12:00 AM
Get on the train. Hillary is toast.
Posted by: Carolyn Grace | April 19, 2008 11:22 PM
Scary skeletons in Clinton's closet.
No charges are being made:
James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to
-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
Posted by: Philippa | April 19, 2008 11:10 PM
Hillary is toast. Obama has a right to feel high now. It is becoming clear to everyone but the Clintons and their most ardent supporters.
Six months to Election Day. Anyone who tells you they know the outcome of McCain v Obama now is full-o-crap.
Posted by: Ed | April 19, 2008 10:26 PM
Wait...didn't Hillary tell Bill when he was having trouble with some Southern Democrats "Screw them Bill...they're not doing anything for you..."? Mebbe that would be "screwgate" And wasn't Bill's last deed for this Country to pardon not one but two Weathermen(they were females)I guess that would be "Weathergate" or "Pardongate". And didn't all this radicalism happen in the Clinton's era? Back then when Bill toked up but didn't inhale? And isn't Sen. Clinton's new secret code "INCOMING!!!!!"? (Bosniagate)
Let's not point fingers at just one candidate.
Posted by: | April 19, 2008 10:13 PM
THE FIRST TIME I HEARD MR.OBAMA SPEAK WAS AFTER THE IOWA CAUSUS I BELIEVE IN JANUARY,I WAS SO MOVED BY HIS SPEACH,HE SPOKE TO MY HEART ALL THE THINGS I HAVE FELT THESE MANY YEARS.OUR GOVERNMENT MUST REALIZE WE THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY ARE IMPORTANT TOO AND YES WE HAVE A VOICE.THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE A LOVING PEOPLE A PEOPLE OF COMPASSION BUT IT COMES A TIME THAT WE MUST STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND THAT TIME IS NOW.OBAMA IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR OUR COUNTRY TO LEAD US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.HE HEARS US HE GIVES US HOPE,IN THAT WE CAN BE THE AMERICA THAT ONCE WAS THE DREAMS OUR FORE FATHERS MEANT WHEN THEY SIGNED THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.IT IS TIME FOR ALL TO COME TOGETHER AND LOVE EACH AND HELP EACH AND TRUST EACH OTHER.YES MR.BARAK OBAMA WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.LET US GET BEHIND HIM AND GIVE HIM ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN.MAY GOD BLESS MR. OBAMA.
Posted by: ANNA G. | April 19, 2008 10:05 PM
I love it...Yes We Can.
Posted by: julie, ca | April 19, 2008 10:04 PM
AMAZING, UNSEEN 2006 OBAMA SPEECH DISPROVING ALL RIDICULOUS "ELITISM" CHARGES!!!!
Posted by: Steve Charb | April 19, 2008 9:47 PM
The press has all the right in the world to question Obama in the BitterGate and now that Obama worked for terrorist William Ayers. He said he was 8 when Ayers bombed New York. Nice try. But he was 30something when he served on a board with Mr. Ayers in the 1990's, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid, underlined PAID directorship position. They worked together, attended fundraisers together, Ayers held fundraisers and was a contributor to Obama's Chicago's campaign, plus they are neighbors and visited each other quite often. Enough said. This relationship deserves being vetted. As an adult Obama made the decision to work with a terrorist. This is a legitimate issue, the judgment and associations of the possible nominee. Its goes straight to the reason why democrats have lost the last two elections. It goes directly to his associations with Farrahkan, Wright, Ayers, Auchi and Refko. This needs to be fully vetted.
Posted by: Leanza Cornett | April 19, 2008 9:40 PM
Brewster's Millions in real life! :-(
Personally, I'd be pretty upset seeing my donations to this guy's cause getting wasted like this!
Enjoy your moment in the Sun Obasama. Your simply being handed Rope!
Posted by: RAT-The | April 19, 2008 9:36 PM
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You people are so behind times. Just move to Canada, get in a fetal postion, hide under the covers and cry yourselves to sleep. Say hello to President Obama, you uneducated seniors!
Re-elect the President...Obama 2012