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Beyond Pa., a Weakened Clinton


Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) greets people after a rally at Scranton Cultural Center April 21, 2008 in Scranton, Pa. (Getty Images)

By Dan Balz
The polls suggest that Hillary Clinton is headed for victory in Pennsylvania on Tuesday. If that happens, it will add to the string of big states where she has defeated Barack Obama. Depending on the margin, a Clinton victory will raise fresh questions about the Illinois senator's general election prospects.

But Pennsylvania is not Ohio, and the Clinton who is making her final push in the Keystone State is not the candidate who barnstormed through Ohio early last month. No less determined, she is nonetheless a more weakened candidate than she was on the eve of the Ohio and Texas primaries.

This is evident at many levels, from the atmosphere around her traveling entourage, to the financial disadvantage she faces, to the fact that her victory could be discounted unless the margin is even bigger than it was in Ohio.

Arguably, the past seven weeks have been far rougher for Obama than for Clinton. He lost Ohio, and he lost the popular vote in Texas (but did recoup by winning more delegates because of the caucuses there). Then came the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the uproar over his comments about the bitterness of small-town voters and the interrogation in last week's ABC News debate.

Yet Clinton appears to have been weakened more by the long interregnum between primaries. Her most significant missteps came over her repeated mischaracterizations of her trip to Bosnia in 1996. Those, along with additional turmoil in her campaign, and occasional mistakes by her husband, have left her with an image problem of significant proportions.

Her campaign has the aura of a march toward inevitable disappointment. Obama's campaign has been skillful in keeping the focus on his nearly insurmountable lead in pledged delegates -- and the math has helped them with that argument. Obama also has continued to narrow Clinton's once-hefty lead among superdelegates. Exhaustion with the race among Democrats on both sides of the nomination battle adds to her obstacles.

Clinton's lifeline to the superdelegates remains the popular vote, the one remaining marker where her advisers believe she might be able to overtake Obama. If she did that, she would have one last argument to put before the superdelegates that she is the stronger candidate for the fall election.

The Web site Real Clear Politics charts the popular vote in multiple ways: total votes; total votes with estimates from some caucus states that do not actually report the popular vote; total votes with Florida's unsanctioned primary results; total votes with both Florida's and Michigan's primaries.

Obama leads in every one of them at this point, but depending on the calculation, his margin is as high as 827,000 (without Florida and Michigan but with a number of the caucus states) and as low as 94,000 (with Florida and Michigan but without those caucus states).

Obama owes much in these calculations to his home state of Illinois. There, on Feb. 5, he rolled up a victory margin of 650,000 votes over Clinton. She, in contrast, won her adopted home state of New York by 317,500 votes. Without the two home states, Obama would still lead in the popular vote, but the margin would look less insurmountable for Clinton in the coming contests.

Obama's recent problems have caused some Democrats to worry about his chances of winning the general election. His performance in Ohio, they argue, where he won only a handful of counties and lost some by huge margins, will make his prospects there difficult, they say. Michigan, too, could be formidable for him, and depending on the outcome Tuesday, so could Pennsylvania.

All of that should have played to Clinton's advantage in this time between Ohio and Pennsylvania. Instead, her rising negatives among Republicans and especially among independents have made it all the more difficult to argue that she is stronger for November.

The most recent Washington Post-ABC News poll charts Clinton's decline from a high point just after her victory in New Hampshire to a new low point this spring. In that time, her favorable rating underwent a 40-point swing among independents. In mid-January, 59 percent of independents said they had a favorable impression of her, compared to 39 percent unfavorable. Last week, it was the reverse: 39 percent favorable and 58 percent unfavorable.

Her decline among Republicans was minimal, although she started at a very low point. Jennifer Agiesta, The Post's polling analyst, said the drop among Republicans is attributable almost entirely to declining ratings from women.

Clinton may have been artificially high in her public image after her New Hampshire comeback, and so the comparison between then and now may overstate the trouble she has encountered. But there is no question that the victory in Ohio and the popular vote victory in Texas, two events that reinvigorated her candidacy and extended the Democratic race, had little lasting impact on how voters -- especially independents who are crucial to Democratic hopes of winning in November -- see her.

All that colors her campaign on the eve of Tuesday's vote. To her credit, Clinton soldiers on, but with new limitations because of the damage to her public image. Fairly or unfairly, the bar for her now is higher than ever.

Posted at 12:40 PM ET on Apr 21, 2008  | Category:  Dan Balz's Take
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yes, Americans don't like whiners, and like cry babies even less.(Guess who cries for votes?)

What is wrong with a candidate who has the party insiders,, the name ,the money, the big lead,the smooth campaign, the 8 years in the white house, and she cannot put it away against an unknown junior senator?

That smacks of unelectability to me !!

All the botox, all the cheek implants, all the colored contact lenses, all the jewelery, the queenly outfits, can not help this woman.

She came out of the gate spending other peoples donations like the rich b.... she is,staying in luxury hotels, then one day it all came crashing down when the 'uppity' Senator from Illinois revealed that she is a hollow shell,no substance at all,all appearance.

Posted by: thopaine | April 22, 2008 6:49 PM

Is Dan Balz on the Obama payroll? I thought he might be reading this article.

I'm reading many other blogs with many other stories about Hillary in PA and I can assure you that she's energized, her supporters are energized. When Hillary wins by 12+, then I guess we will finally realize that Obama may not be "the one".

Perhaps, the hype around Obama will finally come to an end.

Posted by: stefanie | April 22, 2008 5:13 PM

Hillary is weakened b/c she has lost credibility. Her multiple fabrications on sniper fire in Bosnia show a fatal character flaw that voters are very sensitive to b/c of Bush's lies and spin: most voters can trust her to tell the truth.

Stick a fork in Hillary-she's done .

Posted by: Franklin | April 22, 2008 2:47 PM

The entitlement feeling by the Obama campaign and supporters is so sad. Why do they feel entitled to the nomination when Obama cannot win enough delegates to get the nomination.
If Obama is so incredibly good and Hillary so bad, why do they not just beat her and finish the contest?
They could not in Ohio.
They could not in Texas.
And they will not in Penn.
Please quit whining and start performing or simply shut up. Americans do not like whiners

Posted by: Whiners please go home! | April 22, 2008 10:11 AM

Hillary is not weakened; she is finished. Remember, it is all about the delegates. She simply cannot/will not get the delegates. Democracy at work.

Posted by: Ella | April 22, 2008 9:15 AM

The problem for Hillary is that she can't win without overturning the popular vote. That's not going to fly with most Democrats. I don't think she should drop out or anything..maybe Obama will make a mistake but if not, and Superdelegates overturn the popular vote from a black person to give it to a white person, the Dems would lose the African American vote for generations. He would have to have a Dead Zone moment for people to accept that. It's just the political reality and it's not going to happen.

What gets me is the irrational loathing of people. They both are pretty close to on the issues and you'd be an idiot to not vote for whoever wins and let McSame take the White House.

Supreme Court Justices are holding on by their fingernails til a Dem gets in. If any of the liberals on the Court drop out with McCain as President, we'll see a far right court for another 40 years.

So enough already with the irrational loathing. Most of us have admired Hillary for years. I don't particularly like the tone of her campaign but I will still admire her for years. And if this were 2004, I'd have welcomed her bareknuckles no hold back campaign. By the same token, Obama is a good guy. He's not the devil for beating Hillary nor is he some dishonest monster.

We'd be blessed to have either candidate as our President. Remember what you guys really believe in and who the real adversary is. Enough.

Posted by: Dandaman | April 22, 2008 9:11 AM

This is just one guy's "take"--not news.

Hillary '08

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 9:04 AM

WOW!

Obama supporters ARE like cultists following some new age Messiah. Even when his core belifs and tenets are exposed from behind the curtain of canned sermons espousing "yes we can".
.....I guess there are none so blind as those who will not see.

To bad their Deity, has proved to be a false prophit. I just hope that they don't drink their bitter kool-ade and follow their Obamacomet into the void.

Posted by: tagurit | April 22, 2008 5:27 AM

I agree, the author of this report very clearly was using reading glasses manufactured by "Obama Optics" to read (and interpret) the various polls cited. I can get more objective information reading the label on a can of dog food.

This wasn't a news report. It was a lengthy and bald-faced Obama plug, pure and simple.

Posted by: Daniel | April 22, 2008 4:27 AM

You Hillary people amaze me...I dont care what she did while first lady..and if you look at her record in the senate she got nothing pivotal passed...just stupid trivial stuff. More important the Paul vs Clinton fraud suit..which looks bad for the Clintons. They have proof she knew about the money since they have her on tape. You people have no clue how dangerous these Clintons really are. Now tell me..if your great candidate were to win...and she is convicted of numerous felonies of campaign fraud...now wouldnt that be just terrific. Wake up peole..go and find out about the Paul vs Clinton suit. You would never want either of the Clintons anywhere near the White House. And shame on you Washington Post for not bringing this to Americas attention better. Oh and I loved the pic of her and Bill with Tony Rezcko. What a joke these people are.

Posted by: Linda | April 22, 2008 3:08 AM

Obama snores and farts? OK, that does it.

Posted by: Billw | April 22, 2008 12:25 AM

Listen I respect you Clinton people's perserverence but you have to come to grips with the reality she is most likely going to lose the nomination whether she wins Pennslyvania or not. Your last shot in my opinion is to win North Carolina which your own campaign has said is impossible.

Posted by: Sean | April 22, 2008 12:01 AM

You Might Be Genius:
if you voted for Obama as the strongest candidate who could run a good campaign and withstand attacks.

Okay, well maybe it doesn't take a genius, it's pretty obvious that if Obama's supporters go out and vote with all the excitement that's been generated, then they can get close enough to Clinton to keep her from catching up as much as she desperately needs to. If Hillary wins by 10 points only, she's gonna have to consider if her money will hold up to even participate in the rest of the contest...

Her campaign sure could use some more help from her deep pockets...

It's been a good primary for Democrats with all the newly registered Democratic voters. Pennsylvania as one more state for the Democrats? Is that why Obama is using resources to register the youth instead of winning over the more likely, older voters?

Posted by: eljefejesus | April 21, 2008 11:59 PM

Here's an "elitist" comment, and God bless the best--the low level of proficiency in the English language, the constant hostile name-calling, and the inept reasoning displayed by the general run of Hillary supporters in blogs like this (to the extent it's not just one fellow--hello, SVReader!--using a lot of different screen-names) makes one wonder why anyone would take crucial political advice from people who clearly aren't even well qualified to help a middle-schooler to do homework.

Posted by: Anthony | April 21, 2008 11:53 PM

Man there are some bitter Hillary supporters out there. Maybe Barack meant you. What a joke all of your passion for someone who once again will lie to you and lead you into more wars. She's a warmonger --saying anything to get elected. This is the United States of America - not the United States of Israel.

Yes Israel is a good partner but to go as far to say that America would nuke another country shows how unstable Clinton is and demonstrates her lack of sophistication. Most people understand that Israel has bought America and we are their lap dog without Hillary having to threaten another nation with annihilation.

America needs to be an honest broker of peace everywhere if we plan to be a part of peace anywhere. Until we learn our lessons we are destined to repeat them over and over again. This is why Clinton '08 is the same as Bush 2004. Warmongering, liar, hater of the truth.

Come on PA step into the light, don't be afraid. What would Jesus do? I guarantee it would not be to threaten nuclear annihilation.

Go Obama, Go McCain -- anyone but another proven warmonger that needs to prove she's man enough for the job. Come on can we just call her Bill and be done with it.


Posted by: james - Los Angeles | April 21, 2008 11:44 PM


Hillary Clinton can get the economy back on track. She can bring the troops home safely. She can get our bankrupting health care system right -she has more experience and knowledge of this than anyone out there. She can get and has our national character right. She can get our national values right - black, yellow, white, red or all of the above.

Hillary Clinton cares about EVERYONE!! In the United States and on this Planet. She is a WOMAN. She is a BRILLIANT woman.

Barack Obama is a freshman senator from Ilinois who seems to have many friends in Washington DC though he says he does not.

He doesn't seem honest about that and many other things.

I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. A known entity. Someone who has CARED for a long, long time about all Americans.

thx.


Posted by: isadore | April 21, 2008 11:29 PM


Most American's with a brain would Nuke Iran if Iran Nuked Israel.

You are a NUT Nolan Nobody.

Well - you're an Obamabot - so we our expectations are low for you.

Time for an old guy like to you get some sleep?

GBA !!!

HRC !!!

Posted by: oliver | April 21, 2008 11:20 PM

Obama appeals to the inner lemming in every Democrat.

He's the pied piper of putz.

Don't fall for his BS.

The first step off the cliff is a doozy.

Say not to losing.

Say no to snow-bama.

Say yes to Hillary Clinton.

The real change we need is to win the Presidency in November, and we do that by nominating a centrist like Hillary Clinton rather than a far-left loser like Barry Obama.

Posted by: Don't feed the lemmings | April 21, 2008 11:17 PM


GOD BLESS AMERICA

LAND THAT I LVOE

STAND BESIDE HER

AND GUIDE HER

THROUGH THE KOOL AID

THE HYPE

AND THE LYING WILD OBAMA MACHINE

THE MAN IS NO ONE

FROM KNOW WHERE

DONE NOTHING

IN HIS WHOLE "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY LIFE"

HELLO?

HE'S NEVER DONE NOTHING WITH ALL HIS OPPORUNITY

HE'S BEEN LOVING THE FREE REZKO RIDE

HE'S BEEN LOVING THE FREE MEDIA RIDE

HE'S BEEN LOVING THE FREE BLACK LIKE ME RIDE

HE'S BEEN LOVING THE WHITE GUILT RIDE

HE'S BEEN LOVING THE "NO QUESTIONS ASKED RIDE"

MR. OBAMA

IS NO ONE, FROM NO WHERE, DONE NOTHING

WITH ALL HIS TWENTY YEARS OF "OPPORTUNITY"

HE HASN'T CREATED "CHANGE"ANYWHERE, FOR ANYONE SOCIALLY OR POLITICALLY

MR. OBAMA USES PEOPLE.

BLACK PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE, DC PEOPLE, LOBBYISTS, RACISTS, CHRISTIANS, KANSANS, ANYONE

MR. OBAMA IS A MEDIA EVENT

NOTHING MORE

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 11:14 PM

Michael Moore also endorsed the another elitist, John Kerry in 04.

Barack Hussein Obama is not qualified to be President, maybe block captain for his Chicago neighborhood.

Posted by: Fishers, IN | April 21, 2008 11:09 PM

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

Posted by: jacksmith | April 21, 2008 11:04 PM

Those who are confused and question the hypothesis of this article - - Hillary is weakened - - read it again,and again if you don't get it. Dan has done a superb job of laying it out. The comments by those that are confused confirms one of the demographics of Hillary's voting bloc - - the less educated who suffer from an obvious inability to exercise reasoning. The man laid out number after number along with narrative to explain it and you still do not get it, now what confuses me is that you cannot understand his point. So let me explain - - Senator Clinton is in a weaken position because statistically proven, people have changed their view of her, they have changed their view to the down side and not the up side, they think less of her than they did before it was determined that she lied about her trip to Bosnia. And that is about as simple as anyone can break it down, it really is not rocket science.

Posted by: Dee, Washington, DC | April 21, 2008 11:04 PM

Hillary is Carl Rove's dream come true. She was a bad candidate by herself. With Obama, she has become a bizzaro version of Bush doing republican heavy lifting for McCain. Republicans have been trying to get black people to split with the party for years, and now they may succeed thanks to Hillary. If so, the Democratic congress will come crashing down in the next election. Just like Clinton 1 we will have a powerless President who can do nothing except fight off scandal.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 11:03 PM

Mr. OBAMA is a clear example of how far someone will go to be elected.

Kiss arse in Chicago - Mr. Rezko to the tune of a quarter million

Kiss arese in DC to Deshle, Kerry,Kennedy, Dodd, Bradley, Leahy, Rockafeller, Richardson -- helloo? Obama will kiss ANYONE'S butt to get where he might go.

AND HE'S A FREAKING NO BODY!!!! FRESHMAN THREE YEAR SENATOR !!!

With a crazy arse MARKETING TEAM.

NO COMPETENCE. JUST MARKETING.

SUCH A SAD STATEMENT OF AMERICA

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AT IT'S CRAZY WORST.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 11:03 PM

Its not an idle threat that a large constituency of the Democratic party will not vote for Hillary under any circumstance. Life long Democrats will not vote for someone who campaigned as the David Duke of the Democratic party arguing that basically she is superior because she is a tough white person who likes guns and old time religion. The rubicon will the Clintons was passed long ago in this campaign in South Carolina. The nomination will be worth less to Hillary than it was to Jimmy Carter as a sitting president who beat Kennedy and lost to Reagan. At least McCain has the sense to woo black voters with a more authentic pitch than Hillary.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:58 PM


Obama never denounces ANYTHING. not his pastor, not Farrakhan, not his FLAG hate. He is very careful to never say much of anything. Can't his so called super educated blind "followers' GET IT? This man is a total fake. And you have swallowed the kool aid. You don't even listen carefully to waht he does and DOESN'T say. He's very very very very careful. And you can NEVER trust anyone who does that.

Period.

Listen up. Listen closely. To what you DO NOT HEAR.

That's Obama. He is a master at CAREFUL.

Sick and scary.

Don't look now. You been hoodwinked!!

too late!!!

President McCain.

The Republican's have got THE GOODS ON OBAMA IF YOU DON'T.

Cause, guess what? THEY HAVE THE PATRIOT ACT. THEY HAVE "INTELLIGENCE"

Obama is toast.

Hillary is STRONG !

Posted by: truffles | April 21, 2008 10:58 PM

The Obama spin doctors are so sad. And so is the media the way they have covered this presidential campaign. They have all but run Obama's campaign. The media has not diversified its own workforce, that why it fawns over Obama. Those are not my words but the words of journalists covering this race. Oh, by the way, those covering the race tell me Obama is an empty suit and that Hillary is the smartest of all three. I have come to the conclusion that Obama will self-destruct eventually. He will not win a general election.

Posted by: Political Watchdog | April 21, 2008 10:55 PM

One can only pray that the voters in Pennsylvania will rid the Clinton "stain" from the political landscape. These despicable, power lusting, pathological lying frauds have inflicted enormous damage to the Democratic Party. Our nation has suffered for twenty years under the Bush/Clinton regimes of scorched earth, polarizing political warfare. It is time to put Bush & the Clintons in the dust bin of history. Good riddance.

Posted by: Shiva8 | April 21, 2008 10:53 PM

If Obama's the nominee, even California will vote for McCain.

If people think Obama looks like an idiot now, wait until the Republicans get through with him.

Hopefully someone will convince Axelrod to convince Obama to drop out before he makes any more of a fool of himself.

He's a joke.

Obama's afraid of Hillary Clinton, Debates, Democracy, being without his teleprompter, and the dark.

He's a hand puppet for David Axelrod, that's all.


Posted by: If Obama's the nominee, even California will vote for McCain | April 21, 2008 10:11 PM

___________________________

The SVreader broken record continues, under yet another assumed "name."

Posted by: Vincent | April 21, 2008 10:53 PM

Clinton said she would nuke Iran if it nuked Israel. This is crazy. She is nuts.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:52 PM

Hey, see the film clip of Hillary wingman Ed Rendell singing Louis Farrakhan's praises to high heaven?

When will Hillary dissociate herself from Rendell, given that she has made association with Farrakhan such a big issue?

Clintonites ... oh, what a tangled web you weave, when you practice to deceive.

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | April 21, 2008 10:51 PM

Early in life Barrack Hussien Obama attended a Madressa where they teach that it's good to k*ll infidels (non-muslims and jews) and correct to opress women. Later Rev Wright became a big influence in his life. Rev Wright has been tied to L. Farakan - whom is by all measures is a racist and a bigot. Obamas wife recently said that she is proud of America for the first time. What does this say about the character of the person we are thinking about electing Pres?

Middle American Dems do not want a liberal elitist that has belittled them for Pres. Vote for Billary and we might have a chance to win the Whitehouse.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:48 PM


What is this total and wild bologna? Or, more accurately BO-lonie?

Why is the media in America so obsessed with determining the outcome of a Democracy? They show no respect for the process! They think this is some sci fi world where the media RULES.

Hillary isn't weak today - she is wildly strong.

So, we can only deduce that the media is, then, deducing it's capacity to manipulate.

I guess, on this small blue planet in the vast and unimaginable space called the Universe, the media doesn't really matter. What does - are the souls that populate it. And those are the souls who will vote tomorrow. They will determine the next - fortunately for the wisdom of the found souls - ONLY four years of our collective future.

God Bless America. More of this phony Obama is known today than was four weeks ago. By no virtue of this spoon fed, arm chair press - if we can call it that.

Anyhooo !

Go Hillary Clinton. GO 50%++++ OF DEMOCRATS WHO SAW OBAMA FOR WHO HIS IS MONTH, MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO.. BEFORE THE PRESS WERE INSULTED BY HIM. HE CHUCKLES LOUDLY IN HIS KEEP - AND IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND YOU FOOLS DO SLEEP.

God Bless America Indeed.

He do.

Posted by: Todd | April 21, 2008 10:48 PM

Clinton has offended many life long democrats as she campaigns on the theme that Obama a black cannot win, cannot handle a crisis and is an elitist. I cant think of a more self-destructive campaign for the Democratic party. Meanwhile McCain is in Alabama wooing black votes. Someone in the DNC should grab Hillary by the collar and box her ears for damaging the party. They need to get the hook for Hillary whose campaign adds are like GOP farts.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:30 PM
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If you truly think that Obama has not done the same then you are not facing the reality that he otherwise would have the 2025 delegates he needs by now.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:47 PM

Hillary is not going to win the nomination. Her campaign has degenerated into old-time politics and it is ugly. She has been playing to the lowest common denominator of human nature: racism, fear of Muslims, fear, fear, fear.
This is not endearing. We don't need to know that she is willing, and able, to do anything under the sun. It destroys trust.
But, but, but, if the improbable actually happens and she wins the nomination, she will be elected because the nation is entirely ready for a change from the Republicans. McCain is a weak candidate because he has so very many personal and political weaknesses.
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You are silly and have not been facing the reality of what Obama's campaign has been doing for months on end while he has had all the media support.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:45 PM

We Hillary supporters have been going on what, 3 months? That our candidate is no good.

The barrage of negative slander telling us to give up never stops.

But we have hope.

We march on.

Go Hillary.

Posted by: Comment | April 21, 2008 10:44 PM

Paul,

You're right. Obama's supporters are immature cowards too.

Posted by: You're right, his supporters are immature cowards too | April 21, 2008 10:43 PM

The dishonest, immature cowards are not Obama but the people who keep thinking that somehow by posting wacked out slams on the Post they actually are changing any minds. These posts are like Jim Jones coolaid for the mindless.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:36 PM

The kind of bald-faced bias that this article and many others like it display is simply ridiculous. It completely ignores the level of success that Clinton has maintained throughout this long process, and tries to make it seem like any gaff she has made is five times worse than similar gaffs by Obama. There are so many blemishes in Obama's past that are going to come spewing out as soon as (or rather, if) he becomes the candidate, that his supporters will wonder how they were so foolish to be so thoroughly duped by the media.

At the end of the day, Hillary Clinton is the only candidate who can stand behind her promises to change things for the better in this country. People have been rummaging through her baggage for sixteen years now without ever coming up with anything convincingly problematic, so I think it's high time the Hillary haters simmer down.

An Obama presidency will undoubtedly be full of a whole lotta nothing. Not only is he the spring chicken of all spring chickens, he hasn't made one single legislative accomplishment that he can legitimately claim credit for. Even his political backers know this.

Posted by: Matvyei | April 21, 2008 10:35 PM

I dont care what religion Obama is, whether he wears a flag pin, whether he did drugs when he was younger, whether he knows a real estate magnate in Chicago. I really don't care. I do care that Hillary is tearing up the heart of the Democratic party with an over aggressive destructive campaign that even McCain is capitalizing on. That just doesnt make any sense. The party cannot allow her to get the nomination because no one will be there in November. She is the most dissapointing of modern democrats with so much promise and no common sense. Next she will be appearing with David Duke to win white male votes.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:34 PM

The only things wrong with Obama are that he's dishonest, a fraud, totally incompetent, speechless without his teleprompter, extremely immature, and a complete coward.

Besides that, he's a heck of a guy.

Posted by: Besides that, he's a heck of a guy | April 21, 2008 10:33 PM

Hillary started out with bad favorability numbers and her slimy campaigning slid them further.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:32 PM

Geibenlii2:

Obama's name was indeed taken off the Michigan ballot. His name was ON the Florida ballot, and some of his campaign ads ran in Florida too.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 7:25 PM
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He choose to take his name off the Michigan ballot in a move to win Iowa because they felt Michigan had pre-empted them to be one of the firsts in the balloting.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:31 PM


"Mischaracterizations"? Why is it so difficult to just call a "lie" a "lie" ?
My grandmother never washed out my mouth with soap for mischaracterizations.

Posted by: jes_fine | April 21, 2008 10:30 PM

We need a demacrat in our white house so i will vote for whichever one wins the nomination.Its our best chance to help our economy and get healthcare thats afordable and maybe our only chance to end the ilegal war in Iraq.Thats more important than which one wins.

Posted by: sharon | April 21, 2008 10:30 PM

Clinton has offended many life long democrats as she campaigns on the theme that Obama a black cannot win, cannot handle a crisis and is an elitist. I cant think of a more self-destructive campaign for the Democratic party. Meanwhile McCain is in Alabama wooing black votes. Someone in the DNC should grab Hillary by the collar and box her ears for damaging the party. They need to get the hook for Hillary whose campaign adds are like GOP farts.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:30 PM

Trouble for Clinton is her Bushlike missteps seem like Republican sins, whereas Obama's missteps are the "sins" of Democrats.

Posted by: jhbyer | April 21, 2008 10:30 PM

"I know so many democrats that will not vote for Obama"

We have a long way to go before we defeat Racism in America. How backward we are with all these bitter people!!!

Posted by: Bruno | April 21, 2008 7:22 PM
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Aer you saying if you don't vote for Obama you are a racist? Does that come into play even if think he is not the best candidate based on his credentials?

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:29 PM

If Hillary Clinton is so popular, why are there so many cars using bumper stickers like these?


Hil No! 2008

Stop the Clintons

Hillary Can't Trust This Bumper Sticker

Anybody but Hillary '08

Honk if Hillary Scares You

No-Billary

"Sure I'd love to see a woman President, just NOT HILLARY"

Got lies? (with Hillary's picture)

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | April 21, 2008 10:29 PM

Obama said all three candidates are better than George Bush. Hillary accuses him of praising McCain. She's really fishing for straws. If it was praise, it was faint at best. Was he damning McCain with faint praise?

Posted by: msmart2 | April 21, 2008 6:26 PM
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Get your story straight, he said that, then he said the bar was very low. So what he
did is belittle Hillary.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:24 PM

Don't tell me, ya'll have math anxiety?

If you can't stand the math, don't run the numbers.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 8:01 PM
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Like it or not, the Super Delegaters are not about math, but who is most electable.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:22 PM

Geibenlii2:

Obama's name was indeed taken off the Michigan ballot. His name was ON the Florida ballot, and some of his campaign ads ran in Florida too.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 7:25 PM
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Let's add tha tObama choose to remove his name from the Michigan ballot ot help his chances in Iowa. Hillar yposke out from it from the beginning.

http://www.nhpr.org/node/13858

This is an interview Hillary gave on October 11, 2007 - I didn't listen to all of it, but go to 22.20 timewise if you listen to it on Windows Media and hear her talk about why she left her name on the Michigan Ballot - she didn't want to leave those people out


Clinton: I signed the DNC pledge not to campaign, not to spend money in any of the states that were not in compliance with the rules established by the DNC that certainly strongly maintains New Hampshire's status. I personally did not think it made any difference whether or not my name was on the ballot, and I also thought that people in NH and in Iowa have a great understanding of the problems we are going to face as Democrats to win in November 2008. I am going to win the nomination and then I am going to win in November 2008 because we are going to bring more people to vote for us and we are not only going to maintain our advantage in states that have voted Democratic before, but if you look at some of the states we have to win the margins have been narrow. It wasn't in my view meaningful, but I am not going to say there is absolutely a total ignoring of the people in all these other states that won't come back to haunt us if we are not careful about it.

Interviewer: If you value the DNC calendar then why not just pull out of Michigan. Why not just say "Hey, Michigan, I am off the ballot."

Clinton: Well, you know people in Michigan are flat on their backs, they have the highest unemployment rate in America. They are now grappling finally with what they are going to do with the auto industry. 1 in 10 jobs in America is tied with the auto industry, the American auto industry, which we know is centered in Michigan. It is clear this election they are having is not going to count for anything. But, I just personally didn't want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever and then after the nomination we had to go in and repair the damage to be ready to win Michigan in November 2008.

I am not going to campaign there before the deadline of the February 5th window, I am not going to spend any money there, but I did not think it was fair to just say good bye Michigan and not take into account the fact that we're going to have to win Michigan if we are going to be in the WH in January 2009.

Interviewer: Do you think it was a tactical mistakes for Misters Obama and Edwards to take their names off the ballot.

Clinton: Well, they are going to have to speak for themselves.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:20 PM

All of you Hillary bloggers!
Have you contributed money to her campaign?
If there was trully a Hillary movement she would not be in dept. The figures speak for themselves and all you angry people that are barking online, I dare you to back up your words with a contribution.
......ha I didn't think so.

Posted by: tiniakos | April 21, 2008 8:53 PM
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I have contributed money to her, but his supporters, in a majority, are supported by their parents. How are they going to fund the DNC which cannot even afford the Convention at this point?

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:18 PM

McCain is in Alabama wooing black voters and Hillary is in Pennsyvania kissing the but of white males. Go figure. She's invoking Osama Bin Laden like Bush. She couldnt get health care passed, why would anyone turn to her in a crisis.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | April 21, 2008 10:18 PM

Go check out any of the polling organizations, like Gallup, and you will see Hillary has by far the highest unfavorablilty rating, at around 57%.


Posted by: goya | April 21, 2008 10:07 PM
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I don't have to like the person, or want to have a beer with the person that is protecting my civil rights and my financial interests. That is not what this is about. Maybe you shold talk to the Obama campiagn about all his lies about Hillary if her favorability has gone down, I think it is because of his lies about her.

I am voting for the person that can do the job for Americans, who has our best interests and I think that is Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:16 PM

To all those Obama supporters who say that the superdelegates should not overturn the will of the people, then why to they exist? Why did they set up a system by the end of which no clear winner could emerge? Well the truth is that they set up the superdelegates to be a saftey vlave agaist the radical left who control the grass roots in the Democratic party! This was the same thing the founding fathers did when they established the congress,the house was to be the peoples party and the senate was to represent the elite and infulential, and well educated. The house would be popularly elected and the Senate would be electe by the state legislatures which were controlled by the elite! They gave the Senate power to comfrim treaties and presidential appointments! It was not until 1913 that the Senate was elected by the people! This was done to be a check on the passions of the masses and make sure they maintained real control! So the Democrats in an effort to ensure there would be no more McGovern's or Mondale's set up the superdelegates to put a check on the liberal left wing of the party through the use of superdelegates in order to insure that they would not select a nominee that was seen as not being able to win! It had nothing to do with who had the most delegates, if that were the case then they could have made a simple rule change and said that what ever canidate had a plurality of the delegates was the winner! The problem is that they never thought they would have to acutally pick a winner and now they do so I say that Hillary sould stay all the way through the convention and make those old codgers vote and take the responsibility if we lose!

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Obama facts. A man not to be trusted.

1. He is an admitted drug user. no doubt here his own words. Source "His book".

2. He has been accused by the Clinton campaign for possibly selling drugs. the republicans didn't accuse him the Dems did. why? Because they know the republicans will use it during the election. Source "Clinton Campaign"

3. He was raised Muslim in a school in Indonesia known to support terrorism. this is a fact. he claims to be Christian now. But where are his loyalties. Source "His book".

4. he has no experience. that is a fact. Less than 2 years in Senate and most of that has been Campaigning.

5. his voting record is questionable. Source "smartvote.com"
Examples:
1. Obama states he would get the troops out of Iraq, yet
on the IRAQ WITHDRAWAL AMMENDMENT he did not vote.
2. Obama claims to be concerned about Children's healthcare, yet
on the 2007 Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (CHIP) he did not vote.
3. Obama claims to be for the environment, yet
on the Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007 (Farm Bill) and Energy Act of 2007
and Government Sponsored Farm Insurance Policies Amendment and the Water Resources
Development Act of 2007 he did not vote on any of these bills.
4. he did vote for the congressional raise though.

6. Obama is a smoker, fine example for our nation's children. Source "his words in an interview with Oprah" he has been trying to quite, unsuccessfully.

7. . 2007-01-30 ? [WDC News Post] ? WASH?Jan 25?DJNS?Associated Press has revealed that Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Democratic candidate for President of the United States, attend a Catholic school in Indonesia registered as a Muslim, further clouding the issue of where Obama was schooled in Indonesia and when. Obama, by his own admission in books that he has written, has said that he attended a Catholic school and a Muslim school while living in Indonesia with his atheist mother and Muslim stepfather. But now that Fox News reported that Obama may have been indoctrinated in Islamic teachings while attending the Muslim school in Indonesia, he and his handlers have gone spinning the story to the news media, and their stories do not match up.
Source "WDC News"

8. In August, 2006 US Senator Barack Obama [D-IL] made a special trip to visit a special man in Kenya. The man's name was [is] Raila Amolo Odinga. He is the head of the National Muslim Leaders Forum [NAMLEF] in Kenya. The political party he heads is called the Orange Democratic Movement [ODM] ? although there is definitely nothing democratic about his political party ? The ODM is dedicated to overthrowing the legitimate democratic government of Kenya. ? If he succeeds, he will be president for life and Kenya will become another Afghanistan. When the US Senator visited Kenya to meet with Odinga in Nairobi, the Kenyan government officially denounced the visit. And, most specifically, they denounced Obama. Source "CBS, FOX, ABC news"

9. fact more than once Obama has failed to render honors to the Flag. small thing you say, maybe, but not to me. Sources "internet and Clinton campaign"

10. Obama has NOI members on his staff. He has been endorsed by Louis Farrakhan.
Source "Debbie Schlussel independent reporter"

11. the NAFTA screw up, the man has no clue.
Source " everywhere"

12. rev wright . Obama had described Wright as his spiritual mentor. He was married in the church, and Wright was a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee. Source "everywhere"

13. Barack Obama has been running his campaign in the style of a revolutionary. Just how radical and liberal Obama is has been well hidden by the campaign. If you haven't heard about his friendship with the leaders of the radical group, the Weather Underground, you can thank the media. Just how radically left this man is can be seen in what company he keeps. Obama is friends with William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the Weather Underground terrorists of the 1960's. source "all over the internet, NBC, ABC and FOX"
14 . Lastly he is a Lawyer. that, according to the 2002 Harris poll is one of the most untrusted professions. yet we continue to elect lawyers to office
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He also snores and farts.................................boy we can't have him as president.
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that is a well thought out response, if this is the mentality of Obama's supporters then he'll never get elected. his supporters won't be smart enough to find name on the ticket.

Posted by: Chipper | April 21, 2008 10:15 PM

Go check out any of the polling organizations, like Gallup, and you will see Hillary has by far the highest unfavorablilty rating, at around 57%.


Posted by: goya | April 21, 2008 10:07 PM
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I don't have to like the person, or want to have a beer with the person that is protecting my civil rights and my financial interests. That is not what this is about. Maybe you shold talk to the Obama campiagn about all his lies about Hillary if her favorability has gone down, I think it is because of his lies about her.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:14 PM

U Americans need a charistic leader,bringing back respections u lost a decade ago since the Monika Lewinsky affairs from the world .
Barack Obama is such a leader emerging,young,energic,good at making speeches and having a vision on the America and the world .
Clinton only plays those old style politics,she is old style politician.
Go ,Obama

Posted by: jeff | April 21, 2008 10:14 PM

Even I will vote for McCain since I come from a small-town PA!

http://www.obamaunveiled.com

Posted by: Putz | April 21, 2008 10:14 PM

It won't matter who I vote for if Obama gets the nomination.

He'll lose by a landslide.

I will vote for every Democrat I can, but if Obama's the candidate, I'll vote for McCain, just like many other Clinton supporters will.

I have many reasons.

Here are just a few.


1. I believe that Obama is incompetent and not qualified to be President.

2. In protest to the tactics of Obama supporters viciously attacking anyone who posts anything that causes Obama's divinity into question.

3. In honor of the people who suffered and died in "Obama's Slums"

There are many more reasons.

Those are just the first few that come to mind.

Posted by: Fukeman | April 21, 2008 10:12 PM

If Obama's the nominee, even California will vote for McCain.

If people think Obama looks like an idiot now, wait until the Republicans get through with him.

Hopefully someone will convince Axelrod to convince Obama to drop out before he makes any more of a fool of himself.

He's a joke.

Obama's afraid of Hillary Clinton, Debates, Democracy, being without his teleprompter, and the dark.

He's a hand puppet for David Axelrod, that's all.

Posted by: If Obama's the nominee, even California will vote for McCain | April 21, 2008 10:11 PM

Everybody missteps, but if the media has been hownding you for the last six months, every bit becomes added weight.

Let Geraldine, or Bill, or anyone else mention that Obama's lead maybe attributed to 90% of the black vote going to him, despite the fact that Hillary is more qualified and the media goes crazy -- "Race card! prejudice!"

But if the situation was reversed, and 80% of the white vote went to an under-qualified white candidate, the media would be screaming about the prejudice in the white vote. . . . . . . And remember how the media in the debates would ask the majority of the questions to Hillary first?

THIS ELECTION HAS BEEN FIXED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BY THE MEDIA.

It is amazing to me the people still think an obscure speech is the same as a Senate vote -- it's just amazing.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 21, 2008 10:11 PM

Here you go again ... Hillary bashing!

You fools. What kind of Obama Cool-Aid are you drinking now?

http://www.obamaunveiled.com

Posted by: Pusser | April 21, 2008 10:10 PM

there are some stupid obama people posting here. All the more reason he should not win the nomination. My advice to the Obama supports, stop posting stupid crap and start learning!

Posted by: stupidobamapeople | April 21, 2008 10:09 PM

Money is not enough to win elections. McMean showed that against Romney. Romney out spent him 10 to 1 and lost. You Obamaheads need to get real and think about the future of this country. Obama is not qualified to be Pres.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:07 PM

Like many out there, I was once a Hillary supporter. During the past four months, she has done ugly and the ugly has turned me cold against her. It's too bad because I know she has done great things. I know that she is a great lady when things are going her way, but when they are not, she stoops as low as the republican's do to "win"

It the phone rings at 3:00 AM who do you want to answer the phone. These are the things that George Bush and his gang of awful people do. They pray on the fears of people. The lack character and character matters. No to Hillary. Hell no!

Posted by: Janice Fata | April 21, 2008 8:46 PM
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If you have left Hillary because of her telling the truth while not wathcing what Obama's campiang has been doing behind the scenes to throw mud,, buy the people he pays to represent him, then you were never really behind Hillary. Go for the rock star and know that you will have to live with your poor decision both figureactively and monetarily as he knows knows nothing aobut the Federal Government and the way it works. If you really think he is is going change how the Federal gov't has run for 200 years then you are living in a dream. Even Thomas Jefferson ran lies about John Adams.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:07 PM

Hillary is like an unprincipled guest who comes to your house and way over stays her welcome. What is it going to take for her to catch on that most of the nation does not want her around, and over half the nation absolutely hate her.

Posted by: goya | April 21, 2008 9:51 PM
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If what you are saying was true then Obama would have 2025 delegates and would have won the nomnation, but he hasn't.


Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 9:55 PM


Go check out any of the polling organizations, like Gallup, and you will see Hillary has by far the highest unfavorablilty rating, at around 57%.

Posted by: goya | April 21, 2008 10:07 PM

Dan, thanks.

Yes, heads-in-the-sand Clintonistas out there, "weakened". Need it spelled out?

Ohio and Texas were to be her first 'firewall', where she would make up ground after Obama's string of victories in February. However after those two states, and Mississippi, and futher announcements by super delegates, she is still 142 delegates behind Obama, according to Real Clear Politics' latest count, more than before Ohio.

Pennsylvania is the biggest state left and has much better demographics for her than the second biggest (North Carolina, where polls all show Obama up by 10+%). This was to be her next 'firewall'. If she doesn't pick up a lot of net delegates here then she has lost by far her best chance to do so, and in two weeks a close Indiana and Obama win in NC will mean that she has gained no ground at all. With no big states left she will be much, much farther behind than she can possibly make up.

Weakened, indeed. And, as Dan mentions, also weakened financially -- in debt, in fact, while Obama's strong base continues to keep his campaign flush with cash.

This is reality, folks. You still harbor the dream that the super delegates will come in on her side and override Obama's lead? Is there any evidence whatsoever to suggest that this will happen? Why are the supers breaking 4:1 for Obama in the meantime?

Time to prepare for the moment when Hillary ends her campaign and strongly endorses Obama. That day is not far away.

Posted by: lostintranslation | April 21, 2008 10:03 PM

Showing Osama bin Laden in her ad reminds people that Hillary helped Bush take our attention off the real enemy and divert our resources to the Iraq invasion and botched war/occupation.

Posted by: Joseph | April 21, 2008 9:08 PM
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Not at all. She showed many issues a President will have to deal with, it didn't highlight Osama or fear, just issues that confront a President. She then asked who could deal with it best. That was not about fear, it was about reality.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:03 PM

I wish the media and the superdelegates would keep in mind that Hillary's "big state" wins were partly due to:
(a) Republicans voting for her (but won't in November)
(b) Obama's lack of campaigning (in Michigan and Florida)
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I heard Republicans were voting for Obama, and Obama did campaing in Florida and removed his own name on the Michigan ballot in his effot to win Iowa.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 10:00 PM

I'm starting to think that there ARE no good photos of Clinton.

Posted by: ep thorn | April 21, 2008 9:59 PM

Though the process to the nomination is crucial,and i also think as a woman it should get more respects, i still support obama, you know, his childhood was more uneasy than many children, and he is younger and energetic. why don't we choose such an uprising star?

Posted by: michael | April 21, 2008 9:57 PM

Primary elections with two Democrats running against each other in any given state, large or small, is a completely, totally different thing than a Democrat versus a Republican in a general election. To say that Hillary winning by a narrow margin in some of the bigger states in a primary means that she could win in those states against a Republican in the general election is ludicrous, even stupid. What is wrong with you people? You are delusional, grasping at any illogical straw that you can find to try to keep her in the race, meanwhile so blinded that you don't really get how much damage she is doing to our chances in November. Enough already!

The 1.5 million contributors to his campaign, the thousands of new, excited and inspired voters, the millions he has raised without PAC or lobbyist money, the passion that he inspires in people. Don't you get how that happened? It is because people look beyond the old, worn out hype and the fake issues and sense that a real, genuine leader has finally showed up to rally this country. Millions of us have finally had it with the old school DC politics of the Clintons and McCains. We won't get fooled again.

The old way has not worked, it just keeps getting worse. It is time to turn the page and start fresh. It is time to stop fighting and start taking care of each other. Come on people, we have a lot of work to do.

Posted by: r2d2 | April 21, 2008 9:56 PM

Hillary is like an unprincipled guest who comes to your house and way over stays her welcome. What is it going to take for her to catch on that most of the nation does not want her around, and over half the nation absolutely hate her.

Posted by: goya | April 21, 2008 9:51 PM
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If what you are saying was true then Obama would have 2025 delegates and would have won the nomnation, but he hasn't.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 9:55 PM

What Republican support are you talking about. If your referring to talk radio and Fox. They don't speak for the Republican party. They are on their own. Not all Republicans and Conservatives share in the same opinion and support talk radio and Fox have for Hillary. Nor do all Republicans and Conservatives share in the attacks Obama's been getting as a result of the Reverend Wrights tapes. Since when do we hold someone responsible for all the evil things people say and the evil things people do. No one holds Hillary responsible for anything other then the sniper tape lie and it's just the opposite with Obama. Obama is held responsible for everyone who has crossed his path in life. Hillary was weakened long before she got to Pennsylvania. It wasn't only the sniper tape lie. It was lies upon lies upon lies, imagination, upon imagination, upon imagination that weakened Hillary. Hillary has a bigger problem then just being a lousy manager who can't even run a campaign. I guess her vast experiences don't include knowing how to handle finances, or paying bills. If Hillary was any of the things she says she is, it would show in the pocket book. Hillary's donations are shrinking so fast, she ought to ask Obama for a loan. If your coming across as Presidential, people donate. If you show you can manage a campaign and it's finances, you get donations. If you make people feel comfortable, you get donations. If your message is coming across to the people, you get donations. The buck stops with Hillary. If Hillary can't survive in Pennsylvania and move on, there's no one to blame but Hillary.

Posted by: houstonian | April 21, 2008 9:54 PM

I would like to inject a sense of realism into a passionate and often ugly debate that rages here on Wapo blog boards on a daily basis. Truth is truth, and math does not lie.
Posted by: feastorafamine | April 21, 2008 9:20 PM
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Maybe you don't understand the objective of the SuperDelegates, they are not in place to vote in alignment with the majority vote, but to vote for the most electable candidate.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 9:53 PM

Hillary is like an unprincipled guest who comes to your house and way over stays her welcome. What is it going to take for her to catch on that most of the nation does not want her around, and over half the nation absolutely hate her.

Posted by: goya | April 21, 2008 9:51 PM

Here is the difference between Hillary and Obama. Tonight Hillary was on Keith Olbermann's show. Keith who has lambasted Hillary and put her on every pillory. No matter what he asked, she answered without hesitation and with a succint answer. She did not back down, no matter how hard the question was. Hillary is ready for the Presidency, Barack is not.

Posted by: Danielle | April 21, 2008 9:50 PM

Obama is actually two people; one is the politician that tells the voers what they want to hear, and the other is the one that reveals his true feelings at places like a private fundraiser for well heeled donators in liberal San Francisco. It is clear, if he ever wins, he will never deliver on his false promises.

Posted by: Anjali | April 21, 2008 9:48 PM

Everybody missteps, but if the media has been hownding you for the last six months, every bit becomes added weight.

Let Geraldine, or Bill, or anyone else mention that Obama's lead maybe attributed to 90% of the black vote going to him, despite the fact that Hillary is more qualified and the media goes crazy -- "Race card! prejudice!"

But if the situation was reversed, and 80% of the white vote went to an under-qualified white candidate, the media about the prejudice in the white vote. . . . . . . And remember how the media in the debates would ask the majority of the questions to Hillary first?

THIS ELECTION HAS BEEN FIXED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BY THE MEDIA.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | April 21, 2008 9:44 PM

Obama is afraid of Hillary Clinton, debates, Democracy, being without his teleprompter, and the dark.

He's such a cowardly loser its simply amazing anyone would have every thought of voting for him.

Maybe he just needs more coke.

Too bad they couldn't have just been honest and run David Axelrod directly.

He's evil, but he's nobody's fool.


Posted by: Obama is a wuss | April 21, 2008 9:44 PM

Just more pro-barack propaganda from the scum bag editors of the washington post. obama won't win pennsylvania and will go to the convemtion unable to win a major state that doens't allow his kool aid drinking followers to overrun a caucus. if it weren't for the 9-1 black vote bailing him out obama would be out of the race....

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 9:32 PM

Obama beats her...she knows it's coming in another month.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 9:30 PM

As a Billary supporter I will not support Obama as the nomination. I will switch and vote for MeanMcain. Obama is not qualified to be Pres. He is hardly qualified to be a senator. We cannot in these trying times elect a inexperienced neophyte as the leader of our country.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill. We want Bill back in the whitehouse.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 9:27 PM

I wish the media and the superdelegates would keep in mind that Hillary's "big state" wins were partly due to:
(a) Republicans voting for her (but won't in November)
(b) Obama's lack of campaigning (in Michigan and Florida)

Obama has put traditionally-Republican states into play; has been the incentive for massive new voter registrations; has motivated young Americans.

If campaign management were the only indicator of his ability to run the country, he would have clinched the nomination long ago.

Posted by: Barbara Campbell | April 21, 2008 9:26 PM

I would like to inject a sense of realism into a passionate and often ugly debate that rages here on Wapo blog boards on a daily basis. Truth is truth, and math does not lie. In order for Hillary to win the nomination she MUST win ALL the remaining 10 states by a margin of at least 12-14 percentage points (62-64%) and then she must win 64% of the superdelegates. All this talk back and forth cannot change the math. Hillary's efforts to get the nomination will be an exhaustive uphill battle. Before all you Hillary folks start to jump down my throat you should know I LOVE Hillary. I am constantly pleading for unity within the Dem party. I do not have a bias. What I have is a calculator, and a willingness to add things up the way they are, not the way I want them to be. Use this delegate calculator below and do the math yourself. Adjust the slider to 62-64% wins from here on out and see what you get. The delegate count used is the same as MSNBC and CNN
http://www.slate.com//id/2185278/

Posted by: feastorafamine | April 21, 2008 9:20 PM

All the Clinton campaign hype about Obama not being able to win big states is a canard that assumes that an Obama vs. Clinton match-up is the equivalent of an Obama vs. McCain one.

I think the vast majority of voters that voted for a Democrat (not counting the small number of Republicans that switched over for the sole purpose of throwing a wrench into the works, as suggested over and over by Limbaugh and other slimeballs of his ilk) will vote for the Democratic candidate in the General Election.

If I am wrong, and there are enough voters willing to cut off their nose to spite their face, then John "BushCo 2.0" McCain will be the President and the famous words of Disraeli will be proven true again:

"every country gets the government it deserves."

Posted by: Pagun | April 21, 2008 9:16 PM

Please look up the definition of "interregnum" before using it again.

Posted by: Quita | April 21, 2008 9:15 PM

Dan Baltz has consistently shown his lack of objectivity in his reporting by his clear bias in favor of Obama.

Posted by: SGW | April 21, 2008 9:13 PM

Hillary is not going to win the nomination. Her campaign has degenerated into old-time politics and it is ugly. She has been playing to the lowest common denominator of human nature: racism, fear of Muslims, fear, fear, fear.
This is not endearing. We don't need to know that she is willing, and able, to do anything under the sun. It destroys trust.
But, but, but, if the improbable actually happens and she wins the nomination, she will be elected because the nation is entirely ready for a change from the Republicans. McCain is a weak candidate because he has so very many personal and political weaknesses.
Those who are threatening to vote for him instead of Obama or Clinton are practicing the personal politics of extortion and frustration.
Hillary has been right, to a certain extent, to mine the field of those who practice these politics. But, she has had to resort to these unappealing attacks because she has no charisma. She cannot beat Obama straight up because she has no charisma.
Unfortunately, for her, the nation now needs someone with charisma. Obama will win the nomination and he will win the Presidency with a huge landslide giving Democrats the House and the Senate.
And, this country will begin a long, long, long road back to ourselves.

Posted by: cms1 | April 21, 2008 9:12 PM

The truth of the matter is that with eight years of outrageous lies from the current administration, which have contributed to, among other things, the horrible financial situation that we are living at this time, any person with an ounce of intelligence would help block the chances of putting another liar, like this woman, in 1600 Penn.

Posted by: FRANK RIVAS | April 21, 2008 9:10 PM

The great sport is to call someone you do not like a liar! In fact it is so great, that one hardly waits for a lie. Any mistake or misstatement or just something one might not agree with is "a lie."

Who cares if the fact checkes do not agree. That is tomorow. Today - they lie!!

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | April 21, 2008 9:10 PM

The great sport is to call someone you do not like a liar! In fact it is so great, that one hardly waits for a lie. Any mistake or misstatement or just something one might not agree with is "a lie."

Who cares if the fact checkes do not agree. That is tomorow. Today - they lie!!

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | April 21, 2008 9:10 PM

peterDC wrote - "...he has won a string of victories in states that neither he nor Hillary will win in November like Utah, Wyoming, South Dakota etc."

Are you saying that because of the enormous Republican turnout *cough! cough!* in those states' primaries?

Posted by: treetopflyer | April 21, 2008 9:09 PM

Please look up the definition of the word interregnum next time you use it.

Posted by: Quita | April 21, 2008 9:09 PM

All the Clinton campaign hype about Obama not being able to win big states is a canard that assumes that an Obama vs. Clinton match-up is the equivalent of an Obama vs. McCain one.

I think the vast majority of voters that voted for a Democrat (not counting the small number of Republicans that switched over for the sole purpose of throwing a wrench into the works, as suggested over and over by Limbaugh and other slimeballs of his ilk) will vote for the Democratic candidate in the General Election.

If I am wrong, and there are enough voters willing to cut off their nose to spite their face, then John "BushCo 2.0" McCain will be the President and the famous words of Disraeli will be proven true again:

"every country gets the government it deserves."

Posted by: Pagun | April 21, 2008 9:09 PM

Yeah Obama, just throw the rural hard working folks across the country under the bus. "bitter and clinging to their guns and religion"

Just don't ask for their vote after you insult the folks that make up the backbone of what built our great country.

Billary can win the big states!

btw: seems they're clinging to thier guns on the southside of Chicago too - 32 shot over the weekend?? Is that the way you run things in Illinois BHO??

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 9:09 PM

Yeah Obama, just throw the rural hard working folks across the country under the bus. "clinging to their guns and religion"

Just don't ask for their vote after you insult the folks that make up the backbone of what built our great country.

Billary can win the big states!

btw: seems they're clinging to thier guns on the southside of Chicago too - 32 shot over the weekend?? Is that the way you run things in Illinois??

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 9:09 PM

Showing Osama bin Laden in her ad reminds people that Hillary helped Bush take our attention off the real enemy and divert our resources to the Iraq invasion and botched war/occupation.

Posted by: Joseph | April 21, 2008 9:08 PM

All of you Hillary bloggers!
Have you contributed money to her campaign?
If there was trully a Hillary movement she would not be in dept. The figures speak for themselves and all you angry people that are barking online, I dare you to back up your words with a contribution.
......ha I didn't think so.

Posted by: tiniakos | April 21, 2008 8:53 PM

The truth-about the Iraq civil war-a must read LMM

Pentagon institute calls Iraq war 'a major debacle' with outcome 'in
doubt'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080418/wl_mcclatchy/2913186_1

Posted by: lwhite3 | April 21, 2008 8:53 PM

Like many out there, I was once a Hillary supporter. During the past four months, she has done ugly and the ugly has turned me cold against her. It's too bad because I know she has done great things. I know that she is a great lady when things are going her way, but when they are not, she stoops as low as the republican's do to "win"

It the phone rings at 3:00 AM who do you want to answer the phone. These are the things that George Bush and his gang of awful people do. They pray on the fears of people. The lack character and character matters. No to Hillary. Hell no!

Posted by: Janice Fata | April 21, 2008 8:46 PM

Hillary throws her mother under the bus in an attempt to win Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Bruno.

LOL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tydicea | April 21, 2008 8:45 PM

Thanks be to God that this online "news" is free, because no way in hell I'd pay for this lame excuse for journalism.

Hillary was not weakened by her wins in Ohio, Texas and Rhodes Island any more than she will be weakened by a win in Pennsylvania and possibly Indiana, West Virginia and Kentucky.

If we could eradicate the Mainstream Media, we would. Keep it up and we will.

Posted by: Mondegreenie | April 21, 2008 8:44 PM

"THE TRAIL | Mischaracterizations of trip to Bosnia, turmoil in campaign and husband's mistakes have left Clinton with a significant image problem."
___

Whitewater. The billing fraud case against the Rose law firm. Vince Foster's suicide. Webster Hubble's indictment. Jennifer Flowers. Cattle futures contracts. Monica Lewinsky. Renting the Lincoln Bedroom. Monica's blue dress. Bill Clinton's impeachment. The sale of presidential pardons. Walter Mondale's daughter. Bill Clinton's disbarment for obstruction of justice.

And padding her resume on Bosnia, her husband's race-baiting in South Carolina, and campaign in-fighting left her with an IMAGE problem? Are you people daft?

The Clintons are poison. They corrupt everything they touch. Now, Democrats believe it, too.


Posted by: Darden Cavalcade | April 21, 2008 8:43 PM

I'd rather put my faith in Obama's enthusiastic but unproven first time voters than in Hillary's Reagan Democrats, with their proven track record of abandoning the Democrats and fleeing to the GOP in every election year.

These Blue Dogs ALWAYS find an excuse to defect to the GOP. If it's not Obama, it's gay marriage or Kerry's windsurfing.

They're Republicans, really. **** 'em.

Posted by: Bourassa | April 21, 2008 8:37 PM

Hillary Clinton,
Is the purest example we have of exactly how far some people will go to get elected. So many of us would have once considered voting for her but over the last four months she has confirmed that she is an egocentric liar.

I am proud to be a democrat but there is no way I will vote for her any longer, for anything. First she an Bill turned all of the African American voters against them, now they've demonized Moveon.org followers. I just wonder will there be any party left after she is done cleansing and dismantling it.

Simply, she is a monster. If only those poor voters that are still supporting her would realize this the party could be united. If someone would lie about something as small as the Bosnian episode -- just what else will she lie about?

We've spent the last 16 years with leaders lying to us and innocent people have been hurt and killed as a result. First Bill Clinton couldn't not keep his zipper up then he was left impotent to pursue Bin Laden. And the last 8 years we've had a full administration of liars lead us into a global disaster.

When does it end? When will we be able to trust another American president?

Go away Hillary. Go away Bill. Go lie to yourselves.

Posted by: james - Los Angeles | April 21, 2008 8:35 PM

The Washington Post has sunk awfully low this time--Hillary bashing the day before the Pennsylvania primary. Would it not be just as accurate or even more accurate to say that Obama has been weakened? Indeed, it would be. Does the Washington Post care about accuracy and unbiased reporting? Apparently not.

Posted by: Wilson | April 21, 2008 8:35 PM

Monday, April 21st, 2008
My Vote's for Obama (if I could vote) ...by Michael Moore


Friends,

I don't get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn't get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted.

So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote -- and yours -- on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama?

I haven't spoken publicly 'til now as to who I would vote for, primarily for two reasons: 1) Who cares?; and 2) I (and most people I know) don't give a rat's ass whose name is on the ballot in November, as long as there's a picture of JFK and FDR riding a donkey at the top of the ballot, and the word "Democratic" next to the candidate's name.

Seriously, I know so many people who don't care if the name under the Big "D" is Dancer, Prancer, Clinton or Blitzen. It can be Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Barry Obama or the Dalai Lama.

Well, that sounded good last year, but over the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I've watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name "Farrakhan" out of nowhere, well that's when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the "F" word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama's pastor does -- AND the "church bulletin" once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!

This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER!

Yes, Senator Clinton, that's how you sounded. Like you were nuts. Like you were a bigot stoking the fires of stupidity. How sad that I would ever have to write those words about you. You have devoted your life to good causes and good deeds. And now to throw it all away for an office you can't win unless you smear the black man so much that the superdelegates cry "Uncle (Tom)" and give it all to you.

But that can't happen. You cast your die when you voted to start this bloody war. When you did that you were like Moses who lost it for a moment and, because of that, was prohibited from entering the Promised Land.

How sad for a country that wanted to see the first woman elected to the White House. That day will come -- but it won't be you. We'll have to wait for the current Democratic governor of Kansas to run in 2016 (you read it here first!).

There are those who say Obama isn't ready, or he's voted wrong on this or that. But that's looking at the trees and not the forest. What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change. My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.

That is not to take anything away from this exceptional man. But what's going on is bigger than him at this point, and that's a good thing for the country. Because, when he wins in November, that Obama Movement is going to have to stay alert and active. Corporate America is not going to give up their hold on our government just because we say so. President Obama is going to need a nation of millions to stand behind him.

I know some of you will say, 'Mike, what have the Democrats done to deserve our vote?' That's a damn good question. In November of '06, the country loudly sent a message that we wanted the war to end. Yet the Democrats have done nothing. So why should we be so eager to line up happily behind them?

I'll tell you why. Because I can't stand one more friggin' minute of this administration and the permanent, irreversible damage it has done to our people and to this world. I'm almost at the point where I don't care if the Democrats don't have a backbone or a kneebone or a thought in their dizzy little heads. Just as long as their name ain't "Bush" and the word "Republican" is not beside theirs on the ballot, then that's good enough for me.

I, like the majority of Americans, have been pummeled senseless for 8 long years. That's why I will join millions of citizens and stagger into the voting booth come November, like a boxer in the 12th round, all bloodied and bruised with one eye swollen shut, looking for the only thing that matters -- that big "D" on the ballot.

Don't get me wrong. I lost my rose-colored glasses a long time ago.

It's foolish to see the Democrats as anything but a nicer version of a party that exists to do the bidding of the corporate elite in this country. Any endorsement of a Democrat must be done with this acknowledgement and a hope that one day we will have a party that'll represent the people first, and laws that allow that party an equal voice.

Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, "Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for 'spiritual counseling?' THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!"

But no, Obama won't throw that at her. It wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be decent. She's been through enough hurt. And so he remains silent and takes the mud she throws in his face.

That's why the crowds who come to see him are so large. That's why he'll take us down a more decent path. That's why I would vote for him if Michigan were allowed to have an election.

But the question I keep hearing is... 'can he win? Can he win in November?' In the distance we hear the siren of the death train called the Straight Talk Express. We know it's possible to hear the words "President McCain" on January 20th. We know there are still many Americans who will never vote for a black man. Hillary knows it, too. She's counting on it.

Pennsylvania, the state that gave birth to this great country, has a chance to set things right. It has not had a moment to shine like this since 1787 when our Constitution was written there. In that Constitution, they wrote that a black man or woman was only "three fifths" human. On Tuesday, the good people of Pennsylvania have a chance for redemption.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MichaelMoore.com
MMFlint@aol.com

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 8:33 PM

Obama is our Savior. After watching "typical white people" grill Obama during the debate, I realized that Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right, God D*** america. Now is the time to rally around Barak and Michelle and make them proud! These poor bitter rural white folk with their guns and phony religion who are afraid of people not like themsleves should not be allowed to vote. Yes, no more so called elections where typical white people vote! And news flash america, Barak is right, your typical white american is a racist! Obama will apologize to our Muslim brothers for arrogant american policies of hate and slavery. Only Obama can forgive an evil nation founded on slavery. White people, no more gun purchases, save your money cause reparations are comin! Obama 08!!!

Posted by: Obamamania | April 21, 2008 8:33 PM

Monday, April 21st, 2008
My Vote's for Obama (if I could vote) ...by Michael Moore


Friends,

I don't get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn't get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted.

So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote -- and yours -- on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama?

I haven't spoken publicly 'til now as to who I would vote for, primarily for two reasons: 1) Who cares?; and 2) I (and most people I know) don't give a rat's ass whose name is on the ballot in November, as long as there's a picture of JFK and FDR riding a donkey at the top of the ballot, and the word "Democratic" next to the candidate's name.

Seriously, I know so many people who don't care if the name under the Big "D" is Dancer, Prancer, Clinton or Blitzen. It can be Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Barry Obama or the Dalai Lama.

Well, that sounded good last year, but over the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I've watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name "Farrakhan" out of nowhere, well that's when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the "F" word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama's pastor does -- AND the "church bulletin" once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!

This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER!

Yes, Senator Clinton, that's how you sounded. Like you were nuts. Like you were a bigot stoking the fires of stupidity. How sad that I would ever have to write those words about you. You have devoted your life to good causes and good deeds. And now to throw it all away for an office you can't win unless you smear the black man so much that the superdelegates cry "Uncle (Tom)" and give it all to you.

But that can't happen. You cast your die when you voted to start this bloody war. When you did that you were like Moses who lost it for a moment and, because of that, was prohibited from entering the Promised Land.

How sad for a country that wanted to see the first woman elected to the White House. That day will come -- but it won't be you. We'll have to wait for the current Democratic governor of Kansas to run in 2016 (you read it here first!).

There are those who say Obama isn't ready, or he's voted wrong on this or that. But that's looking at the trees and not the forest. What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change. My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.

That is not to take anything away from this exceptional man. But what's going on is bigger than him at this point, and that's a good thing for the country. Because, when he wins in November, that Obama Movement is going to have to stay alert and active. Corporate America is not going to give up their hold on our government just because we say so. President Obama is going to need a nation of millions to stand behind him.

I know some of you will say, 'Mike, what have the Democrats done to deserve our vote?' That's a damn good question. In November of '06, the country loudly sent a message that we wanted the war to end. Yet the Democrats have done nothing. So why should we be so eager to line up happily behind them?

I'll tell you why. Because I can't stand one more friggin' minute of this administration and the permanent, irreversible damage it has done to our people and to this world. I'm almost at the point where I don't care if the Democrats don't have a backbone or a kneebone or a thought in their dizzy little heads. Just as long as their name ain't "Bush" and the word "Republican" is not beside theirs on the ballot, then that's good enough for me.

I, like the majority of Americans, have been pummeled senseless for 8 long years. That's why I will join millions of citizens and stagger into the voting booth come November, like a boxer in the 12th round, all bloodied and bruised with one eye swollen shut, looking for the only thing that matters -- that big "D" on the ballot.

Don't get me wrong. I lost my rose-colored glasses a long time ago.

It's foolish to see the Democrats as anything but a nicer version of a party that exists to do the bidding of the corporate elite in this country. Any endorsement of a Democrat must be done with this acknowledgement and a hope that one day we will have a party that'll represent the people first, and laws that allow that party an equal voice.

Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, "Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for 'spiritual counseling?' THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!"

But no, Obama won't throw that at her. It wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be decent. She's been through enough hurt. And so he remains silent and takes the mud she throws in his face.

That's why the crowds who come to see him are so large. That's why he'll take us down a more decent path. That's why I would vote for him if Michigan were allowed to have an election.

But the question I keep hearing is... 'can he win? Can he win in November?' In the distance we hear the siren of the death train called the Straight Talk Express. We know it's possible to hear the words "President McCain" on January 20th. We know there are still many Americans who will never vote for a black man. Hillary knows it, too. She's counting on it.

Pennsylvania, the state that gave birth to this great country, has a chance to set things right. It has not had a moment to shine like this since 1787 when our Constitution was written there. In that Constitution, they wrote that a black man or woman was only "three fifths" human. On Tuesday, the good people of Pennsylvania have a chance for redemption.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MichaelMoore.com
MMFlint@aol.com

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 8:32 PM

Monday, April 21st, 2008
My Vote's for Obama (if I could vote) ...by Michael Moore


Friends,

I don't get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn't get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted.

So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote -- and yours -- on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama?

I haven't spoken publicly 'til now as to who I would vote for, primarily for two reasons: 1) Who cares?; and 2) I (and most people I know) don't give a rat's ass whose name is on the ballot in November, as long as there's a picture of JFK and FDR riding a donkey at the top of the ballot, and the word "Democratic" next to the candidate's name.

Seriously, I know so many people who don't care if the name under the Big "D" is Dancer, Prancer, Clinton or Blitzen. It can be Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Barry Obama or the Dalai Lama.

Well, that sounded good last year, but over the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I've watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name "Farrakhan" out of nowhere, well that's when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the "F" word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama's pastor does -- AND the "church bulletin" once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!

This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER!

Yes, Senator Clinton, that's how you sounded. Like you were nuts. Like you were a bigot stoking the fires of stupidity. How sad that I would ever have to write those words about you. You have devoted your life to good causes and good deeds. And now to throw it all away for an office you can't win unless you smear the black man so much that the superdelegates cry "Uncle (Tom)" and give it all to you.

But that can't happen. You cast your die when you voted to start this bloody war. When you did that you were like Moses who lost it for a moment and, because of that, was prohibited from entering the Promised Land.

How sad for a country that wanted to see the first woman elected to the White House. That day will come -- but it won't be you. We'll have to wait for the current Democratic governor of Kansas to run in 2016 (you read it here first!).

There are those who say Obama isn't ready, or he's voted wrong on this or that. But that's looking at the trees and not the forest. What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change. My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.

That is not to take anything away from this exceptional man. But what's going on is bigger than him at this point, and that's a good thing for the country. Because, when he wins in November, that Obama Movement is going to have to stay alert and active. Corporate America is not going to give up their hold on our government just because we say so. President Obama is going to need a nation of millions to stand behind him.

I know some of you will say, 'Mike, what have the Democrats done to deserve our vote?' That's a damn good question. In November of '06, the country loudly sent a message that we wanted the war to end. Yet the Democrats have done nothing. So why should we be so eager to line up happily behind them?

I'll tell you why. Because I can't stand one more friggin' minute of this administration and the permanent, irreversible damage it has done to our people and to this world. I'm almost at the point where I don't care if the Democrats don't have a backbone or a kneebone or a thought in their dizzy little heads. Just as long as their name ain't "Bush" and the word "Republican" is not beside theirs on the ballot, then that's good enough for me.

I, like the majority of Americans, have been pummeled senseless for 8 long years. That's why I will join millions of citizens and stagger into the voting booth come November, like a boxer in the 12th round, all bloodied and bruised with one eye swollen shut, looking for the only thing that matters -- that big "D" on the ballot.

Don't get me wrong. I lost my rose-colored glasses a long time ago.

It's foolish to see the Democrats as anything but a nicer version of a party that exists to do the bidding of the corporate elite in this country. Any endorsement of a Democrat must be done with this acknowledgement and a hope that one day we will have a party that'll represent the people first, and laws that allow that party an equal voice.

Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wri