Hillary Rodham Clinton
Why Endorse? Bayh Asks Hoosier Reps

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., tours Allison Transmission, Inc., in Indianapolis on April 12, 2008. Left is Jim Wanaselja, VP North America Sales and marketing, third from left is U.S. Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and right is Karen Caswelch VP of Purchasing. (Associated Press)
By Jonathan Weisman
With his state's critical primary in two short weeks, Democratic Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh -- a strong supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton -- has been leaning on the Hoosier State's freshman House members to stay on the sidelines rather than endorse Sen. Barack Obama.
Obama is hoping to win the outspoken support of Reps. Brad Ellsworth, Baron Hill and Joe Donnolly. He campaigned for them ahead of their 2006 Democratic sweep, and their districts sprawl across the southern half and central heartland of Indiana -- white, working class areas that favor Clinton. Even a good showing in those districts could be enough for Obama to take the state, given his strength in Indianapolis and the largely African American north near Chicago.
In an interview today, Bayh said he has appealed to Ellsworth, Hill and Donnolly to stay out of the race until their voters have spoken. Clinton will take all three of their districts, he said.
"Why should they get crosswise with some of their friends if they really don't need to?" asked Bayh, perhaps the most powerful elected Democrat in the state.
Already, according to three House sources, one member has defied that appeal. Newly elected Rep. Andre Carson of Indianapolis had been in Bayh's sights before he broke for Obama.
The effect of any endorsement -- his included -- "really is pretty marginal," Bayh said.
But with 25 percent of Indiana's Democratic voters in Chicago's media market, Clinton is going to have to run up her margins downstate. She doesn't need any headwind from the region's new House members.
"My advice to you is to follow the voters of your district," Bayh said he has been telling them.
He has not overtly asked them not to endorse, but, he added, his advice "would have that effect."
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Posted by: bob | May 1, 2008 3:02 AM
Wow, Bayh is quite the hypocrite to endorse Clinton the encourage others NOT to endorse simply because they want to endorse someone he did not. That certainly takes nerve. I can see why he endorsed Clinton...they have a lot in common.
Posted by: XME | April 30, 2008 1:28 PM
Nancy Few: I do not know why people still persist in believing the myth that Obama does not sing the Anthem or say the POA! I guess you are referring to the picture when the National Anthem was playing and he did not have his hand over his heart. Well guess what....you do not have to hold your hand over your heart for the Anthem. I learned (in Oregon)in school that you only put your hand over your heart for the POA.
This is a subject that has been discussed ad nauseum and he has been cleared by Constitutional Scholars. I would think out of all the candidates he would know exactly the proper procedure , seeing as he is the ONLY Constitutional Scholar amoung them. As for your comment that what he has said is not based in history you are wrong. He knows exactly what the job of the CAC is because he has had to teach it at a University level!
I think , and mind you this is only my opinion; that people such as yourself are always looking for a reason or excuse not to vote for him. I also feel that if you are honest with yourself you will never find a good reason to vote for him. And thats ok too! I got nothing but love for ya , especially if you vote!
I would rather have a President who respects the Constitution , instead of voting in a family(Clintons) who have no respect for the truth or morality. Bill Clinton lied to the Congress, Senate, the court, the Nation and his wife and daughter. Hillary is also now in court in California for lying to the FEC. She is in deep doo doo, because unfortunately the guy has video and audio tape evidence . She tried to block his lawsuit and was winning in the lower courts, but unfortunately or fortunately the California Supreme Court said , no, no, no, ! She and Bill have to stand trial! And then her lawyer tried to have it so that she was blocked from having to testify. The judge said and I quote: "Well, any opposition is probably going to be dead on arrival, if that will - if you understand what I'm saying, Mr. Kendall."
Thats where Bill Clinton was last friday, testifying in court! Hillary has also had the judge throw a gag order on the press! The press cannot say a mumbling word about the case!
Now if I was an honest , truth telling person , why would I request a gag order? Obama could have done the same thing with the Rezko case.
So now we come back full circle to your original thought. What good does it do for a President to say the POA and sing the National Anthem , with their hand over their lying heart?
You decide
Peace, Renee
p.s.- Here is a link to the court case I mentioned. It is a direct link to the court : www.lasuperiorcourt.org
Choose Civil - then Case Summary - type in the Case Number BC304174
Posted by: Renee | April 30, 2008 2:52 AM
Obama is naive, but idealistic, and has a good track record sponsoring/supporting thoughtful, beneficial laws that do have good potential. And there is NO big political machine behind him, as there is behind Clinton. I worry about another term (or God Forbid)2 terms with the machine behind Hillary.
The only real problem that I see limiting Obama, is his stance on the National Anthem. His comments were not very well based in history, and he realizes, does he not, that if he becomes President, he WILL be the Commander in Chief of the 5 branches of the military. And if he persists in his stance of disrespect to the Nation's Anthem, how is he going to be as the Commander in Chief?
Posted by: Nancy Few, from AZ | April 30, 2008 1:13 AM
FJRinLA: Thank you so much for the props and for your equally eloquent blog entry. I am so frustrated at times to have to view this all from a distance. Thursday I sent off my absentee ballot to my home state of Oregon (which hillary has NO chance of winning!). It made me feel sooo good to be able to show my support once again for Obama.
The great thing about the state of Oregon voting system is that every registered voter receives their ballots at home. This way older folks such as my "Nana" can vote without having to stand in line and wait. I have called all my family members and told them to get their ballots out NOW! That means that Barack will receive just from my immediate family members over 75 votes alone!
In Oregon we are raised up to be politically active through our school system. I have been blessed to have gone to grade and high school with some of my states mayors, governers, and congressmen/women's children; some of whom are now involved in politics themselves. I worked on their campaigns for my civics classes for extra credit and because it made me feel good that I was making a change in my neighborhood and state.
When I arrived in Switzerland it was amazing to me that most of the people here do not vote unless its about a measure for how they can get rid of foreign workers/nationals. I have experienced racism here that would make most people pack their bags and leave! But I stay and fight. Why? Because my children are half swiss and it is also a part of their legacy. As is the US. When my eldest Son turned 18 , I had him register himself with the selective service. He is not required to do as a dual citizen, but I felt that since he has the PRIVILEDGE to hold a US citizenship and the fact that he was born in Oregon, he has a duty to stand and be ready should his country call him into service. Barack could fight back dirty or run from this fight , but he stands his ground with and takes his morals with him! That is one of the things I absolutely love about him!
But I will use every legal means I have availiable to prevent my child from ever being sent to a immoral, unjustifiable , illegal and fairytale war that is Iraq! We have a right to bring justice for those who died on 9/11 to Afghanistan's doorstep! We are also in a no win situation in Iraq due to bad leadership. We broke it and somehow we have to learn how to fix it enough to get the hell out of dodge! I have a vested interest in this as I have 5 family members currently serving in "Hot Zones" there. By the Grace of God none of them have been seriously injured as of yet. I am tired of living in fear of the next phone call from home, telling me one of them did not make it.
The war in iraq and sen hillary clintons vote for the war ; were two of many catalyst that lead to my strong support of Sen Obama. He is not perfect and he has some issues that he needs to clear up with my Caucasian Brothers and Sisters. Issues that hinder some of them from supporting him.
But, we Barack Obama supporters have our issues as well, which will make it equally difficult for Hill supporters to crossover to our side should Sen Obama win the nomination. This is why myself and many others have appealed to our fellow Obama supporters for restraint on the open boards. If I find some new info on Sen Clinton that I feel is important to the community then I will post it in a community blog. But I confine what I call my "ranting , frustrated PMS" post to my private blog page.
I do personally feel though that there is an organized effort and cooperation between the Republicans and Hillary to destroy Barack not only as a Politician, but as a Man as well. I would rather he lose this election , than lose his dignity and morals. I do not think it is worth it to sacrafice an entire lifes work for 8 years of an ego trip!
Please check out my blog
http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/SwissDemsForBarack
Leave a message and I will get back at cha! We are currently waiting for him to win the nomination before we start our fundraising effort for the group. We are severely limited to how we can donate from Overseas, so we tend to make regular donations from our private blog page.
Looking forward to hearing from and chatting with you !
We just need to keep the faith and know that God see's all the ugliness in Hill and McCains hearts and will deal with it accordingly. All that they do will come out in the light! I do not think that God will let his Christian, Muslim , Jewish, etc children of the United States of America suffer anymore ! We have suffered enough! It is all getting just too much to bear!
Peace,
Renee
Posted by: Renee | April 27, 2008 5:47 PM
Headline: Obama says YES to Cheney
Foreword: I wrote the following comments about an hour before I heard Olberman report that Rush Limbaugh was promoting on his website: RIOTS at the Democratic Convention in Denver
We all know the ECONOMY is the #1 ISSUE in this campaign season.
Since ENERGY is an important basis of economics our nation's Energy Policy is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...as we have all seen with the increasing cost of FUEL and FOOD engendered by the rise in Oil Prices.
The Mainstream Media has failed to address or air the 3 Presidential candidates' ENERGY POLICIES. (Have YOU heard anything about The Cheney Energy Bill?)
It was passed in 2005...while the Republicans still had control of Congress. Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill. McCain Voted FOR it.
Clinton Voted AGAINST it.
Most of us, upon hearing of the EXISTENCE of a CHENEY Energy Bill would...assume it to be...NOT in the best interests of our nation or any of us Not Wealthy humans...i.e. some kind of RIPOFF of the American taxpaying public.
It also seems strikingly ODD that Obama, appearing to be a very LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, Voted FOR The Cheney Energy Bill.
Clinton has brought up Obama's YES to Cheney VOTE several times during the televised debates. YET...the News People asking the debate questions never followup by asking Obama: WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THE CHENEY ENERGY BILL?. They Never followup by asking: What IS the Cheney Energy Bill about?
It is by far One of the most IMPORTANT ISSUES of our time, but the "mainstream media" just doesn't cover it. WHAT is the reason for the mainstream media's SILENCE on an ISSUE so critically important to our future?
I asked myself that question and went looking for the answer. This is what I found:
GE owns NBC & MSNBC. Westinghouse owns CBS. GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet: BOTH corporations have, for many generations, pumped vast quantities of PRODUCT...$ADVERTISING Dollars...into all forms of media.
GE and Westinghouse are the Major Players in the nuclear industry. An industry that was set to suffer a Slow DEATH...UNTIL...the Cheney EnergyBill gave it "a new lease on life". NO new nukes have been built in the U.S for the past 30 years because the banks would not loan money to build them - too risky.
The Cheney Energy Bill Solved That Problem For The Nuke Industry by GUARANTEEING TAXPAYER Payback of any of the nuke loans that default.
(Given that the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default at 50%, or greater...do you think it was GOOD JUDGMENT for Obama to vote FOR it?)
(Given the already substantial economic damage done by the SubPrime mortgage meltdown -what amount of economic damage are we LIKELY to suffer from SubPrime: Not Credit Worthy -lending- to the nuke industry/compounded by the fact that US TAXPAYERS would PAY the full cost of a SUBPRIME Nuke Lending meltdown?)
The nuke industry's plans to build 29 new nuclear power plants are already far advanced. Licensing hearings for the first few nuke plants have already been scheduled.
Second Level Major Players in the Nuke Industry:
Excelon Corp. of Illinois - one of Obama's largest campaign contributors since his earliest days in politics - biggest nuke operator on the planet; they own the nukes in Illinois; they own Con-Ed of New York.
Entergy - Owns many utilities in several Southern states.
3 Consortiums of other nuke industry players.
MSNBC & NBC have become more FAUX than FOX. All day everyday since last October I have seen on MSNBC & NBC..ALL their "reporters" and "news analysts" -(from Joe Scarborough and Mika Berzinski on "Morning Joe"-to Chris Matthews on "Hardball" in the afternoon-to Keith Olbermann in the evening BLATANTLY promoting Pro-Obama PROPAGANDA/ Slamming & smeaaring the Clintons...everyday all day long.
I'm not the only one who noticed. Millions of people noticed and posted their complaints about it on the internet. Last night Bill O'reilly on Fox news said - "MSNBC has become the Obama Network".
(I call MSNBC/NBC -BOP-N---Barack Obama Propaganda Networks.)
In response to...(unspecified...& unreported complaints) about "media bias" against the Clintons, Howard Fineman, TIME magazine & MSNBC "News analyst"---whined to Chris Matthews on "Hardball" last week: Gov. Rendell said to me -"you're from the Obama Network"-they shouldn't be complaining about US being biased against the Clintons WE're Journalists! WE just report the facts. (Pathetic...Fineman
...trying...to convince himself he's not -exactly what he is- a highly paid Propaganda Pusher.)
Obama's 20 year history in politics arose from Chicago, Cook County, Illinois.
The Rezko trial involves charges of extortion, fraud, money laundering, kickbacks, bribes; CRIMES
& Political CORRUPTION (at every level of government City, County, State, National) involving: allegedly,
Rezko, Mayor Daley, Governor Blagojevich, et al for crimes committed in the U.S.; and involving internationally 3 Arabic men: Rezko, Auichi, Alsammarae -for crimes allegedly committed in massive international frauds.
(Auichi was convicted a few years ago in the French Courts of massive fraud/robbery/looting involving the French ELF petroleum company and the U.N. Oil for Food Program.
Alsammarae was convicted in the Iraqi Courts of looting the Iraq electricity grid while he was the Iraqi Minister of Electricity...under Bush-Cheney's Coalition Provisional Authority. Rezko is accused of being Alsammarae's partner in that looting.
The mainstream media is airing very little coverage of Rezko's -City, County, State, National, and International Fraud/Looting trial.
For example, the Federal Prosecution's main witness testifed last week that Obama and his wife DID Attend a party thrown by Rezko at Rezko's Chicago mansion for his guest of honor AUICHI. Obama has previously stated that he: doesn't remember meeting Auichi. WHY is the mainstream media (TV, in particular) not covering the Rezko trial? WHY have they Still NOT Asked Obama if he DID or DID Not attend that party? WHY have they NOT asked Michelle Obama if she attended that party?
The conclusion I have reached from those and many other FACTS I have gathered from my impartial search is:
GE, et. al; the Corrupt Corporate "establishment"
-is running Obama and McCain for President -because they plan to reap $BILLIONS in RISK-FREE Profits from building 29 new nuclear power plants AND $BILLIONS more in RISK-FREE profits---For The NEXT 30-40 Years---from the HIGHER ELECTRICITY RATES produced by building nuke plants. i.e. The NEXT Big Dick Cheney MONOPOLY POWER
---ENERGY RIPOFF----
just...waiting in the wings...for Obama or McCain to get elected.
Currently, the mainstream media is PUSHING Obama for President and holding a lid on the BAD NEWS about him. If and when it reaches a point where Obama cannot get the nomination the corporate-controlled media will drop him and start pumping out PRO-McCain Propaganda.
GE, Cheney, et al prefer it to be a NO-RISK,
Win-Win (for Them) Presidential election WITH Obama vs. McCain. The Media is NOW pumping out: the contest is Over; Obama's the Winner; the Nomination BETTER NOT get "stolen" from Obama or there'll be HELL to Pay and the Democrat candidate will lose in November.
The Obama campaign was caught red-handed playing the race card to win the South Carolina primary
...in a 4 page internal Obama campaign Memo published online by the Huffington Post...but the Media went right on PUSHING the BIG LIE -they blamed the Clintons. Obama has repeatedly played the race card every time he is in danger of losing.
There are indications online that Obama: used MOBS of poor black people cramming into small govt. offices in Chicago during his "organizing" days to get some of the "changes" he wanted; that Code Pink and a group named ReCreate '68 are threatening to mass mobs of 50,000 in Denver to protest/incite riots at the Democratic Convention IF Obama does not get the nomination. DOES Obama have connections to the groups threatenting HELL to pay at the convention if he doesn't get the nomination...connections that could be covered by...plausible deniability?
Having already...recklessly, despicably, dangerously, played the race card repeatedly & supposing...Obama does have connections with left wing extremist groups...could electing him President get us -WORSE THAN BUSH-...incitement of interracial strife for purposes of Political Control... incitement of left-wing extremists/ riots for purposes of Political CONTROL? ...with the MEDIA aiding, abetting, lying and distorting...Reality...just like they are doing now?
Things that don't add up:
If Clinton is "the establishment" candidate -Why is her campaign constantly running out of money
while Obama has been rolling in CASH thruout the campaign?
The media tries to cover that by saying: well...her wealthy contributors have already given the maximum amount the law allows -they can't contribute anymore funds.
That's ridiculous. The "establishment" has enough cash to hire all the bundlers they need to go out and rustle up more cash from individuals employed at ALL Their Corporations, and from any other source. The media continues to PUSH the BIG LIE that Obama does not accept money from Lobbyists/Corporations -when a very brief search on Google will quickly turn up detailed confirmation of the fact that he accepts money from the same large corporate sources as the other candidates.
If Clinton is the "establishment" candidate...WHY isn't the corporate-controlled media PUSHING HER for President?
If, since January, Obama has been getting 2X-3X-5X more in campaign contributions from: we the little people
...How Come... he's not getting 2X or 5X
MORE VOTES than Clinton in the Primary elections?
Obama's got the money. He's got the MEDIA Propaganda. He's the establishment candidate.
What's wrong with building 29 nuclear power plants?
Hillary Clinton: nuclear can be considered in the future IF they can make it CHEAPER and find a way to safely and permanently dispose of the nuclear waste.
Nuke waste/nuke waste dumps have been a steadily deepening nightmare for the past 50 years. (Google: Hanford WA nuclear waste dump; Rocky Flats CO plutonium, Barnwell South Carolina groundwater nuclear waste dump.
ALL the nuke waste dumps are CLOSED. Nuke waste has been stored ON-SITE at the nuke plants for the past several DECADES; providing several hundred terrorist targets vulnerable to devastating consequences from just ONE RPG.
The nuclear industry is already running a modicum of Pro-Nuke Propaganda Ads. They have bought up a few "environmentalists" & manufactured a lot more -for the LAUNCH of their upcoming NUKE PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN (The Nukes are GREEN & CLEAN Ad Campaign)-that will start-right after the November Prersidential election.
What can YOU do about it? Copy & Paste this message -email it to everyone on your email list. Google: "North Carolina blogs politics" and post this everywhere you can -post it on Newspaper, TV, and radio blogs. Do the SAME for all the upcoming PRIMARY STATES...as far in advance of the Primary Date as you can.
"Getting off coal to go nuclear is like giving up cigarettes to take up smoking crack" (I wish I knew where I read that quote so I could give credit to the author of it.)
Headline: Obama says YES to Cheney
Foreword: I wrote the following comments about an hour before I heard Olberman report that Rush Limbaugh was promoting on his website: RIOTS at the Democratic Convention in Denver
We all know the ECONOMY is the #1 ISSUE in this campaign season.
Since ENERGY is an important basis of economics our nation's Energy Policy is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...as we have all seen with the increasing cost of FUEL and FOOD engendered by the rise in Oil Prices.
The Mainstream Media has failed to address or air the 3 Presidential candidates' ENERGY POLICIES. (Have YOU heard anything about The Cheney Energy Bill?)
It was passed in 2005...while the Republicans still had control of Congress. Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill. McCain Voted FOR it.
Clinton Voted AGAINST it.
Most of us, upon hearing of the EXISTENCE of a CHENEY Energy Bill would...assume it to be...NOT in the best interests of our nation or any of us Not Wealthy humans...i.e. some kind of RIPOFF of the American taxpaying public.
It also seems strikingly ODD that Obama, appearing to be a very LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, Voted FOR The Cheney Energy Bill.
Clinton has brought up Obama's YES to Cheney VOTE several times during the televised debates. YET...the News People asking the debate questions never followup by asking Obama: WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR THE CHENEY ENERGY BILL?. They Never followup by asking: What IS the Cheney Energy Bill about?
It is by far One of the most IMPORTANT ISSUES of our time, but the "mainstream media" just doesn't cover it. WHAT is the reason for the mainstream media's SILENCE on an ISSUE so critically important to our future?
I asked myself that question and went looking for answers. This is what I found:
GE owns NBC & MSNBC. Westinghouse owns CBS. GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet: BOTH corporations have, for many generations, pumped vast quantities of PRODUCT...$ADVERTISING Dollars...into all forms of media.
GE and Westinghouse are the Major Players in the nuclear industry. An industry that was set to suffer a Slow DEATH...UNTIL...the Cheney EnergyBill gave it "a new lease on life". NO new nukes have been built in the U.S for the past 30 years because the banks would not loan money to build them - too risky.
The Cheney Energy Bill Solved That Problem For The Nuke Industry by GUARANTEEING TAXPAYER Payback of any of the nuke loans that default.
(Given that the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default at 50%, or greater...do you think it was GOOD JUDGMENT for Obama to vote FOR it?)
(Given the already substantial economic damage done by the SubPrime mortgage meltdown -what amount of economic damage are we LIKELY to suffer from SubPrime: Not Credit Worthy -lending- to the nuke industry/compounded by the fact that US TAXPAYERS would PAY the full cost of a SUBPRIME Nuke Lending meltdown?)
The nuke industry's plans to build 29 new nuclear power plants are already far advanced. Licensing hearings for the first few nuke plants have already been scheduled.
Second Level Major Players in the Nuke Industry:
Excelon Corp. of Illinois - one of Obama's largest campaign contributors since his earliest days in politics - biggest nuke operator on the planet; they own the nukes in Illinois; they own Con-Ed of New York.
Entergy - Owns many utilities in several Southern states.
3 Consortiums of other nuke industry players.
MSNBC & NBC have become more FAUX than FOX. All day everyday since last October I have seen on MSNBC & NBC..ALL their "reporters" and "news analysts" -(from Joe Scarborough and Mika Berzinski on "Morning Joe"-to Chris Matthews on "Hardball" in the afternoon-to Keith Olbermann in the evening BLATANTLY promoting Pro-Obama PROPAGANDA/ Slamming & smeaaring the Clintons...everyday all day long.
I'm not the only one who noticed. Millions of people noticed and posted their complaints about it on the internet. Last night Bill O'reilly on Fox news said - "MSNBC has become the Obama Network".
(I call MSNBC/NBC -BOP-N--Barack Obama Propaganda Networks.)
In response to...(unspecified...& unreported complaints) about "media bias" against the Clintons, Howard Fineman, TIME magazine & MSNBC "News analyst"--whined to Chris Matthews on "Hardball" last week: Gov. Rendell said to me -"you're from the Obama Network"-they shouldn't be complaining about US being biased against the Clintons WE're Journalists! WE just report the facts. (Pathetic...Fineman
...trying...to convince himself he's not -exactly what he is- a highly paid Propaganda Pusher.)
Obama's 20 year history in politics arose from Chicago, Cook County, Illinois.
The Rezko trial involves charges of extortion, fraud, money laundering, kickbacks, bribes; CRIMES
& Political CORRUPTION (at every level of government City, County, State, National) involving: allegedly,
Rezko, Mayor Daley, Governor Blagojevich, et al for crimes committed in the U.S.; and involving internationally 3 Arabic men: Rezko, Auichi, Alsammarae -for crimes allegedly committed in massive international frauds.
(Auichi was convicted a few years ago in the French Courts of massive fraud/robbery/looting involving the French ELF petroleum company and the U.N. Oil for Food Program.
Alsammarae was convicted in the Iraqi Courts of looting the Iraq electricity grid while he was the Iraqi Minister of Electricity...under Bush-Cheney's Coalition Provisional Authority. Rezko is accused of being Alsammarae's partner in that looting.
The mainstream media is airing very little coverage of Rezko's -City, County, State, National, and International Fraud/Looting trial.
For example, the Federal Prosecution's main witness testifed last week that Obama and his wife DID Attend a party thrown by Rezko at Rezko's Chicago mansion for his guest of honor AUICHI. Obama has previously stated that he: doesn't remember meeting Auichi. WHY is the mainstream media (TV, in particular) not covering the Rezko trial? WHY have they Still NOT Asked Obama if he DID or DID Not attend that party? WHY have they NOT asked Michelle Obama if she attended that party?
The conclusion I have reached from those and many other FACTS I have gathered from my impartial search is:
GE, et. al; the Corrupt Corporate "establishment"
-is running Obama and McCain for President -because they plan to reap $BILLIONS in RISK-FREE Profits from building 29 new nuclear power plants AND $BILLIONS more in RISK-FREE profits--For The NEXT 30-40 Years--from the HIGHER ELECTRICITY RATES produced by building nuke plants. i.e. The NEXT Big Dick Cheney MONOPOLY POWER
--ENERGY RIPOFF---
just...waiting in the wings...for Obama or McCain to get elected.
Currently, the mainstream media is PUSHING Obama for President and holding a lid on the BAD NEWS about him. If and when it reaches a point where Obama cannot get the nomination the corporate-controlled media will drop him and start pumping out PRO-McCain Propaganda.
GE, Cheney, et al prefer it to be a
NO-RISK,
Win-Win(for Them)Presidential election WITH Obama vs. McCain. The Media is NOW pumping out: the contest is Over; Obama's the Winner; the Nomination BETTER NOT get "stolen" from Obama or there'll be HELL to Pay and the Democrat candidate will lose in November.
The Obama campaign was caught red-handed playing the race card to win the South Carolina primary
...in a 4 page internal Obama campaign Memo published online by the Huffington Post...but the Media went right on PUSHING the BIG LIE -they blamed the Clintons. Obama has repeatedly played the race card every time he is in danger of losing.
There are indications online that Obama: used MOBS of poor black people cramming into small govt. offices in Chicago during his "organizing" days to get some of the "changes" he wanted; that Code Pink and a group named ReCreate '68 are threatening to mass mobs of 50,000 in Denver to protest/incite riots at the Democratic Convention IF Obama does not get the nomination.
DOES Obama have connections to the groups threatenting HELL to pay at the convention if he doesn't get the nomination?...connections that could be covered by...plausible deniability?
Having already...recklessly, despicably, dangerously, played the race card repeatedly & supposing...Obama does have connections with left wing extremist groups...could electing him President get us -WORSE THAN BUSH-...incitement of interracial strife for purposes of Political Control... incitement of left-wing extremists/ riots for purposes of Political CONTROL? ...with the MEDIA aiding, abetting, lying and distorting...Reality...just like they are doing now?
Things that don't add up:
If Clinton is "the establishment" candidate -Why is her campaign constantly running out of money while Obama has been rolling in CASH thruout the campaign?
The media tries to cover that by saying: well...her wealthy contributors have already given the maximum amount the law allows -they can't contribute anymore funds.
That's ridiculous. The "establishment" has enough cash to hire all the bundlers they need to go out and rustle up more cash from individuals employed at ALL Their Corporations, and from any other source.
The media continues to PUSH the BIG LIE that Obama does not accept money from Lobbyists/Corporations -when a very brief search on Google will quickly turn up detailed confirmation of the fact that he accepts money from the same large corporate sources as the other candidates.
If Clinton is the "establishment" candidate...WHY isn't the corporate-controlled media PUSHING HER for President?
Obama's got the money. He's got the MEDIA Propaganda. He's the establishment candidate.
What's wrong with building 29 nuclear power plants?
Hillary Clinton: nuclear can be considered in the future IF they can make it CHEAPER and find a way to safely and permanently dispose of the nuclear waste.
Nuke waste/waste dumps have been a steadily deepening nightmare for the past 50 years. (Google: Hanford WA nuclear waste dump; Rocky Flats CO plutonium, Barnwell South Carolina groundwater nuclear waste dump.
ALL the nuke waste dumps are CLOSED. Nuke waste has been stored ON-SITE at the nuke plants for the past several DECADES; providing several hundred terrorist targets vulnerable to devastating consequences from just ONE RPG.
The nuclear industry is already running a modicum of Pro-Nuke Propaganda Ads. They have bought up a few "environmentalists" & manufactured a lot more -for the LAUNCH of their upcoming NUKE PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN (The Nukes are GREEN & CLEAN Ad Campaign)-that will start-right after the November Prersidential election.
What can YOU do about it? Copy & Paste this message -email it to everyone on your email list. Google: "North Carolina blogs politics" and post this everywhere you can -post it on Newspaper, TV, and radio blogs. Do the SAME for all the upcoming PRIMARY STATES...as far in advance of the Primary Date as you can.
"Getting off coal to go nuclear is like giving up cigarettes to take up smoking crack"
(I wish I knew where I read that quote so I could give credit to the author of it.)
p.s. Obama claims 7 years of experience in the Illinois legislature working across the aisles to bring people together to get good CHANGES passed -as exemplified by 26 good bills with his name on them passed by the legislature.
However, a local Chicago reporter says all 26 of those bills were passed in ONE Year.
http://wweek.com/editorial/3418/10516/
EXCERPTS:
But what's interesting, and almost never discussed, is that he built his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year.
Kingmaker: Illinois State Senate President Emil Jones Jr. takes credit for smoothing Obama's path to the U.S. Senate.
Republicans controlled the Illinois General Assembly for six years of Obama's seven-year tenure. Each session, Obama backed legislation that went nowhere; bill after bill died in committee. During those six years, Obama, too, would have had difficulty naming any legislative achievements.
Then, in 2002, dissatisfaction with President Bush and Republicans on the national and local levels led to a Democratic sweep of nearly every level of Illinois state government. For the first time in 26 years, Illinois Democrats controlled the governor's office as well as both legislative chambers.
The white, race-baiting, hard-right Republican Illinois Senate Majority Leader James "Pate" Philip was replaced by Emil Jones Jr., a gravel-voiced African-American known for chain-smoking cigarettes on the Senate floor.
Jones had served in the Illinois Legislature for three decades. He represented a district on the Chicago South Side not far from Obama's. He became Obama's kingmaker.
Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.
During his seventh and final year in the state Senate, Obama's stats soared. He sponsored a whopping 26 bills passed into law--including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced.
On the stump, Obama has frequently invoked his experiences as a community organizer on the Chicago South Side in the early 1990s, when he passed on six-figure salary offers at corporate law firms after graduating from Harvard Law School to direct a massive voter-registration drive.
But, as a state senator, Obama evaded leadership on a host of critical community issues, from historic preservation to the rapid demolition of nearby public-housing projects, according to many South Siders.
End of EXCERPTS
my comments:
Working across the aisles bringing people together to get CHANGES made = zilch
Taking credit for other Senator's work; Integrity = ZERO
Posted by: elme | April 27, 2008 1:22 PM
There's obviously many things going on behind the scenes of this primary campaign that no one knows about - things that aren't right or fair.
These men are in leadership positions - they should act like real leaders with courage and conviction.
OBAMA08 in the 8th District of Indiana!
Posted by: | April 26, 2008 10:05 PM
I find it interesting that Evan Bayh says these reps should wait to see how their districts vote before deciding who to support. Why isn't he following his own advice and waiting until after Indiana votes before stating whom he supports? Something tells me that if they were planning to announce support for Clinton, he wouldn't be giving them the same advice.
PG
Posted by: PeixeGato | April 26, 2008 5:29 PM
One day, a girl awakened fatherless, her home destroyed -- even its barn that bore a target her grandpa painted to teach her to shoot.
Disguised as a boy, she trekked the Himalayas & Antarctica & the shores of Lake Erie & the deserts of Nevada & California & Washington DC & the cobbled ways of Ulster & Manhattan's canyoned streets. Even did she brave a strafing of a Bosnian airport.
Then in a real folk's tavern, she downed a whiskey & a beer -- and wept: "Where's father? Where's home?" She fainted on the sawdust-covered floor & awoke above the clouds before a great white gate.
Inside stood a gaunt & bearded, loincloth-wearing man. She put her nose between two bars. "Father?" she begged.
"Pinocchio?" the gaunt & bearded, loincloth-wearing man inquired with a whisper.
Posted by: a carpenter's apprentice | April 26, 2008 4:04 PM
Here's what somebody has to explain to me:
Hillary really seems to be running 100% for herself. I don't get the feeling that she cares at all for americans. I think she cares about getting BACK into the white house. I have heard she wants to put Bill on the Supreme Court. To me it's all about sustaining the Clintons power, and finances. Her lack of sincerity is obvoius in every speech. People seem to be counting her spouse in all this, as though a team is being elected. It just seems so cut-throat. But never let it be said that the american people, when given a choice, will choose wisely.
If the american people were indiana jones, indy's dad would have died at the end of that movie.
Posted by: What I Don't Get | April 26, 2008 3:18 PM
@jacksmith:
it's way up there, but your "you might be an idiot" post seems to point to bill clinton too much.
I have 2 points to that.
1. you know a pres. can only be in charge for 8 yrs, right. that is the law.
2. do you know anyone's wife that can pick up and run the job of the husband, where, and this is the important part, the two do not work in the same field? as you may not remember, hillary was not a politician when bill was in office.
if a man is a doctor and a wife a lawyer, can one do the others job in a pinch? i think not.
jackass
Posted by: jacksass | April 26, 2008 3:06 PM
Every 2.8 seconds a hater is born.
HAAATERRRRSSSS !!!
Posted by: anthony | April 26, 2008 2:10 PM
If they support Obama they should endorse him and not succumb to Bayh's underlying threat. They have the right to endorse because the people need to know who they support. Gee, Sen. Bayh what gives you the right! You endorsed who you wanted to and they should endorse whom they choose. SHAME ON YOU, SEN. BAYH!
Posted by: Margie | April 26, 2008 11:07 AM
Senator Bayh,
Unfortunately, you have been infected by "Billary Disease"....it is FATAL!!!
Shame on you!!
Posted by: DickNH | April 26, 2008 9:22 AM
Bayh and Clinton: integrity-challenged hypocrites.
Posted by: William | April 26, 2008 8:44 AM
"Evan Bayh is a great politician. He'd make a great VP for Hillary!"
We don't need a great politician. Great politicians are what's wrong with America right now. We need someone who will break away from the stupidity that is the American Political system.
Posted by: SickofHillary | April 25, 2008 11:30 PM
GOD BLESS YOU RENEE
For your support of Obama and your eloquence.
The Clinton Insurgency will continue on no matter what happens. They stopped running for President in '08 sometime between Super Tuesday and Mini-Super Tuesday, and morphed into the "Campaign To Defeat Obama" at all costs.
So we loyal DEMS have to recognize that and behave accordingly.
Whereas I had originally preferred that Senator Obama select Sen. Biden as his running mate to help him effectively govern and get his legislation through the Senate a la Kennedy/Johnson, I fear the success of The Clinton Insurgency thus far in coordinating with McCain and the architects/backers of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to pin down Obama on Race and Elitism may force Sen. Obama to make a more political calculation to help secure this victory.
He may be advised to select Rendell or the Ohio GOV who can guarantee one of those two states....or maybe even a Maverick REP/IND like Mayor Bloomberg or Chuck Hagel who would personify his turning the page on the old style of politics and allow him to re-brand himself, coming out of the convention.
My primary concern however, is that The Clinton Insurgency will not stop trying to defeat Obama after the Convention or even after the Inauguration.
You see, The Clintons want to remain "titular heads" of the DEM Party in absentia, even if it means dooming us, the country, and the entire world to another four years of wandering in the wilderness during a McCain or Cheney-Lite Administration.
So please advise your DEMS ABROAD that we must increase our support of Obama and establish a heightened vigilance of The Clinton Insurgency and their concerted activities to defeat any DEM or Progressive agenda that is not their own.
I have no doubt that The Clinton Insurgency will just move to the Congress after her defeat where she will caucus with Sens McCain, Lieberman, and the rest of the REPS to create a failed Obama Presidency.
Of course, she's still got a great chance to avoid that by bringing to pass her preferred self-fulfilling prophecy of a failed Obama General Election campaign that produces a McCain Administration.
So please be informed and aware, because based upon The Clintons words and deeds that we are all witnessing, there is absolutely no reason for any of us to be caught off guard or not prepared for their continued assault against Obama and any type of "Change You Can Believe In".
No one man could fend it all off alone, so we'll need everyone who is like-minded, angry, bitter, and fed-up with the status quo in Washington and beyond to make their voices heard in this election cycle and with the strengthened DEM majority in Congress to make sure that a Progressive agenda gets FULLY Enacted to restore our way of life at home and abroad.
See My FJRinLA Blog at Obama website for more.
Posted by: FJRinLA | April 25, 2008 4:05 PM
Gary in Indiana | April 24, 2008 6:29 PM :
Firstly you did not address the hard cold fact that I offered , which was that the majority of African Americans supported Clinton! Even one of our greatest authors, Toni Morrison gave him the moniker "First Black President". The AA community voted enmasse for him, and helped save his neck and presidency the second time around. Hillary was on track to profit from the AA communities affection for Prez Clinton.
But because we, as our Caucasian brothers and sisters can read and write; and make informed choices , we choose Obama.
Now mind you , there are still AA politicians(Williams, Nutter, Rangel) who still support Sen Clinton. So the blanket judgement that we all flock behind Obama is patently wrong and downright insulting. I myself supported Hillary Clinton. That is until Bill started talking pooh pooh out one side of his mouth, while attending AA church services(and falling asleep during them I might add!) and shuckin' and jivin' trying to brainwash us to support his wife.
He even went so far as to "remind" us of everything he had done for "us"! I thought of him in terms of the President Of the United States of America, for All Americans , not just Afro Americans! My bad I guess. But boy did he sure pull the wool over white folks eyes, I guess!
My Mother voted for Bush the last two elections. Why would she do this? Shouldnt she have voted for Gore or Kerry, seeing as they were Democrats and you know we house negroes always vote fo de Demoecrats! Deys always been guud massas to us! Please!
Bill Clinton overplayed his hand and Hillary is just a hot mess and that is why the majority of us do not support them. And I will not lie and say that it does not instill in us a certain pride when one of "ours" makes it as far as Obama has. We thought Jessy Jacksons run was the glass ceiling for us! We never dreamed that a candidate from our community could make it as far as Obama has.
As to your point I should "inform myself better" about the policies of Obama , well guess what......As an African American woman, who happens to possess Swiss citizenship as well; and who has lived in Switzerland for the past 18 years , I am more than well informed. And the reason for that is that I happen to be the head of the Obama Campaign group formed for the German Region of Switzerland! Oh Snap!
It is my J.O.B. to know his policies inside and out! And being that my Husband is the Chief Resident/Department Head of the largest ER in Switzerland , and who also sits on our NATIONAL Medical Ethics Board, I have gone through both healthcare proposals with him and his fellow board members. And guess what...Obamas wins hands down! It is closer to the UNIVERSAL healthcare coverage that we enjoy here in Switzerland. Our Universal healthcare is also above average compared to that of the EU as well. We have access to top surgeons and do not have to wait even for a day to have procedures/operations carried out. If the doctor has a free space then we can book it. My husband and I choose to also supplement our basic coverage with additional policies so that we are able to have a private room and are attended to by the department head. But make no mistake, even if someone here has only basic coverage and their case is complicated they are also cared for by the department head/chief resident.
The downfall of Hillarys plan is that it is nearly impossible to finance everyone . Someone , somewhere is going to fall through the cracks. And I feel that those whose employers or who are able to pay their healtcare themselves should do it, even the basic. Which I might also add my Husband and myself do. We pay the FULL monthly premiums because we can afford it. Most Swiss do. That means that when those in financial straits need coverage/treatment they are able to receive it with no waiting time/restrictions whatsoever. If one is not able to cover the full monthly costs themselves , then the state steps in and pays the difference. And will pay the entire cost if necessary.
And please tell me what is the difference between the most celebrated speech in American history MLK's "I have a dream" and Obama saying we cannot give up hope?! If you are a Christian then you know what the Bible says about hope "Hope is the substance of things HOPED for , the evidence of things we cannot see" .
And no one said all WASHINGTON politicians are perfect and that they all must go if Obama were to become President. But I tell you one thing, Hillary would be relying on the very WASHINGTON politicians you named , if she wants to get anything done! And they both will have to at some point go to John McCain for advice and support from time to time.
Obamas point is that we have CHANGE THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PAST IN WASHINGTON. WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM FUNCTION MORE EFFICIENTLY AND ECONOMICALLY, BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Hillary even makes this point herself.
So in conclusion I will say once again, I will not have my vote nor views pigeonholed due to my race.
The very first time I cast my vote for President as a Senior in University was for G. Bush 1, even though I was a registered Democrat. Why did I do this? Because I thought that Dukka was a nutcase. I even entertained the thougth of voting for McCain over Hillary and Obama at one point. But to my bitter disappointment, the STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS fell off the tracks!
I got nothing but love for ya, and it is a good thing to have a well rounded discussion when it comes to why one supports a particular candidate. I myself have said to Obama supporters to please know his policies and Clintons policies before making a decision whom they should support. I find it just as shallow and ignorant to support someone based on Gender, Party Affiliation, as I do to support someone based on race.
May the best Woman/Man win , and may America be blessed by/through their service!
Renee
Posted by: Renee | April 25, 2008 1:49 PM
OMG, I have never seen such a line of garbage in my life. Hillary supporters, "where is Hillary today?" She is in California as a defendent in a lawsuit along with Bill. Who donated to Bill's library. If you think this will not come out if she steals this from Obama you are crazy.
And for all you folks talking about race out there, there are racists people in all races. Anyone who thinks Obama is a racist is #1 out of their mind. By the way Black Americans are not voting for Obama because he happens to be black, they are voting for him because he is the best candidate for the job. Research how the Black population voted when other Black candidates ran for office and you will see that you are so wrong. I feel bad for those Hillary supporters (which I used to be one of for 20 years) who are not really researching the facts, but listening to the lies and hype surrounding her.
Posted by: | April 25, 2008 1:11 PM
as an Indiana voter, I knew why there was a good reason to dislike Bayh, it just became clearer to me...a democrate all my life and will never vote for hillary again. bayh has done nothing for his people in Indiana
Posted by: maxine | April 25, 2008 1:04 PM
Indiana and N.C. give Hillary two to gone on. Home that is.
bleep, bleep
that's all folks.
Posted by: Orlando | April 25, 2008 12:43 PM
Bayh is not the most powerful in Indiana. He is a sleaze and is trying to sway voters to his way of "thinking" b/c he knows she wants him as a vp. I am glad a lot of politicos are not listening to him, and he is truly alienating voters for his next term. I am an Independent, damn right I am bitter-and hmm, I am also the supposed demographic that would vote for Billary2, but I'd move to Canada before doing that.
Posted by: Angelia | April 25, 2008 12:05 PM
Obama campaigned for Hill, Donelly and Ellsworth in 2006. Bayh has the balls to tell these three not to endorse a candidate and yet she has endorsed the lier Hillary. You guys be a man and come out and endorse whomever you want to - hopefully Obama.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for the Republicans. Obama will beat McCain in November. Ask yourselves why all these Republicans are pushing for Hillary to win. They have said so themselves that it would be hard for them to beat Obama even with all the negative stuff they are putting out there. They would walk all over Hillary.
The American people need change, new faces and Obama is that.
Billaries - you are the biggest biggets ever who would say and do anything to win in the expense of the DEMS - that is not fighting to me - that is what I would call desperation.
Posted by: ob08 | April 25, 2008 10:32 AM
typical Clinton manipulation.
Stop the DRAMA, vote OBAMA!
Posted by: emmaspeaks | April 25, 2008 8:20 AM
Is this guy an idiot, or just stupid. How can any politician, not already in prison, tell another not to do what he has already done! Endorsing Hillary was Bayh's mistake. NOT endorsing Obama would be every other elected Democratic official or Superdelegate's mistake.
Bayh, Rendell and the other traitors to the Democratic Party who blindly endorsed Hillary will deeply regret what they have done the next time they face the voter's in their respective states. They have shown their colors, now let them realize the consequences.
Posted by: GeorgeW | April 25, 2008 7:37 AM
Is this guy an idiot, or just stupid. How can any politician, not already in prison, tell another not to do what he has already done! Endorsing Hillary was Bayh's mistake. NOT endorsing Obama would be every other elected Democratic official or Superdelegate's mistake.
Bayh, Rendell and the other traitors to the Democratic Party who blindly endorsed Hillary will deeply regret what they have done the next time they face the voter's in their respective states. They have shown their colors, now let them realize the consequences.
Posted by: GeorgeW | April 25, 2008 7:37 AM
Evan Bayh obviously plays politics like Hillary: sleazy and with no moral character. He sounds weak and desperate. Let the poeple decide for themselves. Obama can win among white male voters in swing states like Colorado, Missouri, Wyoming, but Hillary cannot. Hillary cannot regain the trust and vote of black voters either, and no presidentail dem has taken the White House without that support! So I suppose you can say that Hillary has a "black voter and a white male western swing state voter problem." She would lose so fast against McCain. He would cut her down in a second over that Bosnia BS.
Why do people resist good change?
It baffles the mind!
They would rather have a lian' witch in office or a war-monger who will send their sons to war. If given the choice between a good ole boy who got a GED and a visionary, brilliant Harvard grad in constitutional law, it would be a simple choice for me.
WAKE UP!
Vote Obama!
For all you bigots out there, remember, he's half WHITE.
Obama, yes we can!
Posted by: Catherine S | April 24, 2008 10:55 PM
Voting for Obama is voting to stop the party destruction and waste of energy and funds. Based on Party rules, Obama will win based on most popular and most delegates.
Voting for Clinton is voting to change and challenge the rules. It is also a vote for Superdelegates to overturn popular votes and move the goalpost - an elitist image not good for the party.
Posted by: Richard K | April 24, 2008 10:31 PM
I'm probably one of the few people commenting here actually FROM Indiana. Bayh was an excellent Governor, beloved, almost, but he has been a lackluster Senator. He obviously cannot make it into the White House without the coat tails of someone else, and, him being a sleazebag, it HAS to be Hillary, because Obama has too much integrity. Bayh's career is on the line here, so he, like Hillary, is doing anything, no matter how hypocrytical, how dishonest, and how stupid-sounding (kitchen sink, anyone?). What he doesn't know, because he's a rich white elitist out of touch with the state, is that the Obama Democrats have lost all respect for him, so he'll probably even lose his senate seat over this, ESPECIALLY if Hillary steals the nomination with her back room games.
Posted by: Chuck Lasker | April 24, 2008 10:23 PM
How can Bayh encourage other Indiana superdelegates not to endorse when he has endorsed? Why didn't he stay neutral until after the Indiana primary?
Posted by: Independent Voter | April 24, 2008 9:46 PM
uhm, why did Bayh wait until his state voted to endorse Clinton? Do these people think that we're stupid? I mean seriously, they have to think we are absent minded, crazy, stupid, dumb, forgetful, retarded and just not intelligent at all...I'm tired of all the hypocracy surrounding Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: leslie | April 24, 2008 9:29 PM
BAYH SEEKING TO FREEZE INDIANA SUPERDELEGATES
TREATMENT OF BILL RICHARDSON PROVES THE CLINTON'S NOT WORTHY OF THE WAIT
Sounds like Sen. Bayh is engaging in superdelegate voter suppression.
Let's face the flip-side of Hillary's inevitability:
When she announced last year most pro-Clinton SuperDelegates jumped onboard immediately, before any other real choices presented themselves.
BAYH is one who may have likely behaved like other red/purple-state Senators who remained uncommitted and been a natural ally and supporter of his neighboring Sen. Obama.
But he didn't and like many others:
Here is your real buyer's remorse. I could see and feel it with Ed Rendell also who was practically campaigning for OBAMA/RENDELL '08 during the PA primary and probably won the job.
If I'm Obama, I remind Rendell that I'm polling ahead of McCain in PA on my own and that as much as I think we'd make a good team on the campaign trail, the choice only makes political sense for me if you can promise to deliver Ohio and excite the solid Lieberman Jewish vote about our ticket in states like FL, PA, and even NY & CA.
This is where I believe Obama/Rendell '08 looks and feels like it packs the electoral punch, at least, of Kennedy/Johnson. Sen. Obama will need to rely on Speaker Pelosi and the senior Sens. Dodd, his Co-Chair Durbin, and Biden to push his agenda through Congress.
Posted by: FJRinLA | April 24, 2008 8:40 PM
Wow! Is her already VP? Because if he isn't he sure did endorse before votes were cast in his state. He sure doesn't think much of his fellow delegates. I guess they are all spineless and brainless. hmmm How pathetic is that? VERY!!!!
Posted by: Divamore2003 | April 24, 2008 8:20 PM
heres why....
posted on the Huffington Post two weeks ago .. why THIS didn't make the news... I'll never know. But it gives a real insight in to the mindset of this diluted witch.
In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.
"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."
Talk about an elitism!!!
Vote for her Hoosiers... and see what you get
(Can some one tell me what a Hoosier is BTW?
Just curious ... Guess I'll look it up on Wikipedia.)
Posted by: Hate that Woman | April 24, 2008 8:02 PM
Gary, try to think just a little bit harder, will you? First, your blanket statement about blacks not knowing anything about Obama except that he is black is the definition of prejudice. The polls you refer to are from one or maybe two states, and they only say that race was a factor in the way people voted. Does that mean that it was the only factor? No. So wake up and quit with the sweeping racial stereotypes. They insult everybody's intelligence, including yours.
Second, on health care: Obama's plan will cover everybody, as long as everybody wants to be covered. That means you, Gary. If you want to be covered, under Obama's plan, you will be. And yes, of course his plan includes a mandate for children (which he proudly points out), otherwise how would they be covered? When they reach the age of 25, they then decide if they want to buy into the plan and continue coverage. It's called common sense. Under Clinton's plan, no such deciding power would be granted to adults.
Third, do you really think that Obama's message is just about going around and saying "I hope, I hope, I hope" all the time? That's just dumb, Gary. Look into it a little, and you'll see that he has very pragmatic, detailed policy plans for his presidency, and his message is that in order for the deadlock on issues like health care to be broken, the way Washington works needs to change. His argument is that cynicism and playing to people's fears and prejudices is crippling our democracy, and we as a people need to unite behind our common goals and values.
Finally, I'm not sure where you got your capital gains figures, but Clinton would most likely raise the tax as well. Here's what Obama said on the matter:
"Here's my belief, that we can't go back to some of the, you know, confiscatory rates that existed in the past that distorted sound economics. And I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton, which was 28 percent. I would--and my guess would be it would be significantly lower than that."
Posted by: Willis P | April 24, 2008 7:51 PM
Why listen to Bayh? Voters Ask Hoosier Reps
Posted by: RTM | April 24, 2008 7:39 PM
Come on congressmen, stand up and endorse Senator Obama. Did Hillary come to Indiana and campaign for you? NO. Who did? Senator Obama. All state leaders know that if Hillary were the nominee, she would bring every republican out from under the rocks to vote against her and it would hurt everyone on down the ticket. So, what do you do? Endorse Obama.
Posted by: Carolyn Grace | April 24, 2008 7:38 PM
I live in Brad Ellsworth's district, and I will tell you what Bayh knows but will not tell you. Brad Ellsworth was an extremely popular Sheriff in Vanderburgh county and is extremely well liked in this usual republican stronghold. His endorsement would be a huge deal to the people voting in this area, which includes the state's third largest city, and would definitely make an impact on the vote. Obviously that's why Bayh is ACTIVELY and OPENLY seeking to repress the free expression of his fellow statesmen.
To my fellow Hoosiers: I have personally written Senator Bayh several letters informing him that his tactics for the Clintons over the past weeks has strongly convinced me to never vote for him again. I have also written letters to my congressman, Brad Ellsworth, strongly urging him to freely and openly express his views on this matter. I urge each and every one of you to do the same.
Posted by: BitterHoosier | April 24, 2008 7:26 PM
The Daily Show - Jon Stewart on Hillary's assertion that "The Tide Is Turning"
Posted by: tdeiker | April 24, 2008 7:10 PM
Rev Wright just happens to be black, all the anger doesn't matter, from slaver to segragation to abuses because of color, all he has to say is portrayed as coming from an angry black man, i guess black will always be second class citizen, and whatever a black man says, it will be link to Obama if what he says is going against mainstream, the other side disolve itself because we got what is so called Emancipation, nobody is supposed to say what is going wrong, he said what he said i don't agree with it, it is hateful (those snipets are)but his whole life is just compressed into 30s, maybe just because he is black that's why, look at this Iowa, look at this, you saw that it doesn't matter the color but the ideas you bring, they are trying to destroy it. Thanks MSM for that making people more stupid.
Posted by: Nobamboozle | April 24, 2008 6:55 PM
I now officially can not stand Hillary Clinton nor Evan Bayh. I actually voted for the guy before and now I see he's just the same as all the status quo Washington politicians. I, as one of his voters, sent him an email expressing the divisiveness of Hillary's comments when she was bringing up the "elitist" crap with him in tow. He didn't even have the decency to acknowledge my email with a standard generic reply. That shows me he doesn't care about the voters in Indiana. He's pushing hard and I would say it's because he definately is on the short list for VP. Thats okay because I'll never vote for him or Hillary because I am sick of all the BS.
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Posted by: HUSSIEN FROM ILLIONIS | April 24, 2008 6:44 PM
I so agree with Renee I thought I had misread this article. Is not endorsing what politics is all about. I am an Obama supporter and I have once been in love with the Clinton's, yes the Clinton's because I feel like we are running 3 candidates for the democratic party. Enough of that, but I was hoping that Mr. Bayh could offer an explaination maybe there is some method to his maddness. I campaigned for a former Mayor in Akron, Ohio and I have some working knowledge as to how this all works. One politician offers another politician its constiuents just like Rendell offered Hillary. That is part of the game, and she won. Please someone who may be a little more in tune advise me if I have potentially miss something or did he not intend for this comment to be published? Thanks
Posted by: KLB | April 24, 2008 6:36 PM
Renee, I am sorry that you feel the way you do. Being a white American male here in Indiana, I do feel that it has been more racially one sided. 92% of all blacks have went towards Obama. The majority of blacks do not even realize what Obama is all about except that he is black. Polls so that most blacks are voting for that very reason. I do feel that any man or woman has the right to run for president and I for one do not contend that I would not vote for Obama because he is black. I look first at what I think that the nominee could do for me, my family and my country. I could go around saying "I Hope" "I Hope" "I Hope" until I was blue in the face. It takes more than that. Hope is a good thing but not when it comes to the mortal expense of the U.S. Citizen. Obama has a healthcare plan that does not cover everyone. Hillary does. Obama says that Hillary will have a mandate. Well, heres some news for you.....so does Obama. Obama wants to increase my capitol gains tax from 15% now to 28%. That sucks for people like me. Obama says he wants to do away with the "OLD POLITICS" of Washington but he enlists the support of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Bill Richardson among others that have been in Washington as long as most others. What a hypocrit Obama is. Maybe you should check the facts out.
Posted by: Gary in Indiana | April 24, 2008 6:29 PM
Bayh, your endorsement may look good to people back home in Indiana but you are killing the rest of us in the party all across the country.
Obama is the better candidate for future party building reasons and for the country.
Hillary is a 50% plus 1 candidate. Her antiquated campaign math depends on it. She takes boat loads of lobbyist money. She voted for the war.
We can do better than this, Bayh.
I am sorry Bayh, but Obama makes a play on having a filibuster proof house and senate with his huge coattails in tough states with senate elections.
Texas, Nebraska, New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota, Alaska, New Hampshire, Oregon, North Carolina, Virginia, Idaho... These are the tough states with senate elections where Obama does better and helps all the other down ticket candidates more than Hillary.
You are supposed to be a leader for the party and you don't even see this most important fact.
Obama also changes the demographics by bringing out younger voters. A young Democratic Party full of voters that will vote Democratic another 50 years is good for the party.
Obama is getting his supporters from other demographics as well. Obviously the younger voters aren't the ones loading his coffers with campaign donations, and giving him a 2 to 1 majority in fundraising over Hillary.
Obama has a message of being more inspirational and democratic. He inspires people to be the change they wish to see. To be more active in politics.
Hillary has a message that she will fix everything on her own. And that is THE problem in politics today. There is not enough civic involvement in politics. People need to be in their communities being leaders and participating more. She makes fun of Obama for inspiring rhetoric which inspires people to aim towards civic engagement.
Obama is a good example for all of us. He just barely paid of his student loans after being in debt for years. He was raised by a single mother in a lower middle class income home.
Somehow Obama now gets the elitist and rich guy charges from McCain and Clinton even though they are both worth $100 million each. McCain is loaded from his wife's beer money and Hillary is rich from Bill's presidential status.
Obama isn't rich. Isn't elitist. Maybe he is just overeducated. Obama graduated near the top of his class at Harvard Law and taught Constitutional Law at U of Chicago. Someone who respects the Constitution and has taught Constitutional Law might be important after 8 years of President Bush, Addington, Cheney and Yoo breaking it. Keep that in mind.
I am from a poor working class blue collar family. My family is 'bitter' because we aren't making our house payments and can't put gas in our car.
I am bitter because I am $50000 in debt and about to graduate from college, I don't have health insurance and I am low on job prospects.
My grandparents are 'bitter' because their social security checks are worth nothing after inflation and rising energy costs.
Everyone in my family is bitter, poor and voting for one man in November. (except for my uncle who works for Halliburton)
It is still the economy, stupid.
Obama '08
Posted by: Matthew in Idaho | April 24, 2008 6:27 PM
Bayh knows what he is talking about. Hillary is going to win Indiana.
I voted for Baron Hill but if he supports Obama in the primary, my vote will change from Baron Hill as well. Keep this in mind Baron, there are many of us who feel this way, espcially down in south Indiana.
Posted by: Gary in Indiana | April 24, 2008 6:19 PM
Tony: As an African American I have yet to hear that when White Americans vote for Hillary that African Americans feel this is some sort of racial bias.
This is indeed a media created bias.
Was is it not Iowa that first laid down the hammer for Obama? This majority Caucasian state voted in mass for Obama while some 65% of African Americans were supporting Hillary Clinton.
It was not UNTIL White Americans started voting for Obama that African Americans felt the need to take a second look and vote for Sen. Obama.
But then again you have politicians such as Ed Rendell of Penn state who comes right out and says that some White Americans in his state would not vote for Barack Obama under any circumstances due to the color of his skin.
Please get your facts straight!
Posted by: Renee Osterwalder | April 24, 2008 6:05 PM
I am afraid I am one of the 50% who finds Clinton untrustworthy. Too many lies and underhanded deals to get my vote. Has anyone been keeping up with the false ads going out in Indiana and also the bogus polling calls?
Posted by: Workman3344 | April 24, 2008 5:57 PM
I agree with with what this post says,
Senator Bayh is a hipocrite if he doesn't step aside and retract his endorsement to.
What a JOKE he IS
Interesting. So why didn't Senator Bayh wait until HIS state have voted before he endorsed anyone? Something about geese and ganders come to mind, Evan? Methinks thou dost protest too much. If you're serious, retract your endorsement, get off the campaign trail, and sit on the sidelines. Else, quit being a hypocrite!
Posted by: 33rdSt | April 23, 2008 7:51 PM
Posted by: rickster | April 24, 2008 5:56 PM
Why shouldn't they endorse?
He did.
Posted by: Deborah Cunningham | April 24, 2008 5:48 PM
This is absurd on so many levels, the most obvious being that here's a superdelegate that has already endorsed telling other superdelegates that endorsing is a bad idea. And then, if the impact of endorsements are so marginal, than why is going out of his way to convince them not to do it? And how does his head not explode from cognitive dissonance when he says that congressional superdelegates should "follow the voters of [their] district" when Clinton's campaign is arguing the exact opposite everywhere else? If all of the elected superdelegates were to follow their district's or state's voters, Obama would be the nominee, silly! You don't want that, do you?
Posted by: Willis P | April 24, 2008 5:46 PM
Dear Tony,
I live in Philly. According to exit polls, 250,000 white voters stated that race was an important factor in their choosing Clinton. Of those, 60,000 said it was the main factor.
If you want to make a correct comparison, then you should compare women voting for Clinton with African Americans voting for Obama, not White v. Black. Maybe you are one of the 60,000 who could never wrap your head around voting for a Black man? Wake up, and see the movement in this Country. I am Barack Obama!
Posted by: Jack | April 24, 2008 5:36 PM
Bayh is as honest as Hillary, which is to say, not at all. This is a really sleazy move on his part. Bayh is a DINO who has betrayed the Democratic Party and its voters on almost every issue that is important to us.
This Hoosier is voting for Obama.
Posted by: Bubba Heinze | April 24, 2008 5:35 PM
Sorry, Senator Bayh. Your advice rings hollow and hypocritical. I live in Indiana, and loathe having to vote for DLC Democrats such as Bayh or Baron Hill. Progressive Democrats are on the rise here, and could use your support.
Check out Gretchen Clearwater (IN-09) http://www.clearwaterforcongress.com/ and Barry Welsh (IN-06) http://www.barrywelsh.org/ as two fine examples of what the Democratic Party can be with your support.
Posted by: Frank | April 24, 2008 5:34 PM
First off, I would like to know if this is a blog for Adults or mentally challenged young people? Whats up with all the Hillary war, Obama Wright crap?
One would think that you could come onto the blog of such a highly regarded newspaper as the Washington Post and folks would know how to behave themselves!
Anyway I have a question if anyone would like to answer it "in an ADULT" fashion.
Why is it that Bayh wants the delegates in his state to wait and not endorse Obama, when he could have just as easily spoken out to his counterparts in Penn state and ask them to wait and not endorse Hillary until the race was over! ? Is she a lady now to whom we should show deference?
Now granted I am an Obama supporter( Ex Hill supporter) , but I just think that it is really a bit much to ask others to wait in endorsing Sen. Obama , while it was ok with Bayh to endorse her himself BEFORE THE PRIMARY; and he had no problems when his bud Ed Rendell and the entire Democratic Comm. of Penn state came out early and strong for the Hill.
Am I the only one who see's a double standard here?
Thank you in advance for your replies!
Renee
Posted by: Renee Osterwalder | April 24, 2008 5:32 PM
An impartial, objective, and probably totally accurate view, from the London Times :
Yes it's politically incorrect but race matters
The Democrats must admit it: Obama would lose to McCain
Anatole Kaletsky
American Presidential elections have been compared with reality TV series or game shows, in which a gaggle of jumped-up nonentities aspiring to be celebrities are ritually humiliated in public and offered entertaining opportunities to self-destruct, until only one survivor remains. But this time round, a much more elevated analogy is sadly apposite.
The 2008 US election has all the makings of a Greek tragedy, in which noble heroes and heroines are forced to follow a course to catastrophe, divinely preordained as punishment for sins and blunders committed by their forefathers in the dim and distant past. In acting out their ineluctable doom, the eloquent protagonists do not just destroy themselves but also their cities, their nations and even their entire civilisations.
If this description sounds too grandiose, consider yesterday's results from the Pennsylvania primary. The outcome seemed to be precisely calibrated by the gods to maximise the agony of the Democrats. It gave Hillary Clinton just the support she needed to stay firmly in contention, but not quite enough to turn the tide in her favour.
Worse still, this result underlined the fear that senior Democrats have long been aware of, but have never dared to express in public: America may not yet be ready to elect a black President. Worst of all, it has created conditions for the possible election victory of a militarily belligerent and economically unqualified Republican candidate who supports many of President Bush's worst policies. Given the Bush Administration's domestic and foreign failures, the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan and, most recently, the slump in the economy, the possibility of a Republican victory in November would seem to overturn every principle of proper democracy - and also the hope of America and its system of government being rehabilitated in the eyes of the world after the Bush years. The fact that Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton are both such impressive candidates, intelligent, sincere, articulate and in command of the issues, while John McCain does not qualify on any of these criteria only makes matters worse.
That Mrs Clinton will now carry on with her campaign is not just probable but essential. For the voting in Pennsylvania confirms that she has a much better chance than Mr Obama of winning the White House for the Democrats. According to the Associated Press exit polls published yesterday, 16 per cent of white Democratic voters considered race an important factor in the Presidential election and 43 per cent of these said they would either vote Republican or not vote at all, if Mr Obama were the Democratic nominee.
Given that Mrs Clinton's clear victory over Mr Obama in Pennsylvania followed similar results in other "must-win" states with large working-class constituencies, such as Ohio, Florida, New Jersey, Michigan and even New York and California, the conclusion would be fairly obvious, were it not for the political correctness that makes it almost impossible for American politicians or commentators to express such a view: Mr Obama may by unable to carry large industrial states with socially conservative white working-class populations simply because of his race. This is especially true now that the televised rantings of Rev Jeremiah Wright and Mr Obama's own gaffe about the "bitter" white working-class culture of "guns and God", have reminded Americans that race is not just a matter of skin colour. Rev Wright embarrassingly revealed in his "God damn America" and "Chickens come home to roost" sermons that his African-American vision of America is be profoundly at odds with the white majority view.
The latest polls in the two most important swing states show Mr McCain easily beating Mr Obama in both Florida and Ohio, while Mrs Clinton comfortably beats the Republican in Ohio and is neck and neck in Florida.
Mr Obama has, of course, apologised for his condescension towards working-class church-goers and hunters - probably the most important group of floating voters in the electorally critical mid-Western states. He has tried even harder to dissociate himself from Rev Wright's anti-American tirades, which really have to be seen (on YouTube) to be believed. And Mr Obama's supporters have chastised Mrs Clinton for turning to "negative campaigning" and "scorched-earth" strategies in her desperation to stay in contention.
The trouble is that Mr Obama's efforts to suppress the race issue are doomed to failure. For the influence of Rev Wright on him is a matter of public record. Indeed, the phrase "Audacity of Hope", which is the title of Mr Obama's political autobiography as well as his presidential leitmotif, is attributed in that book to a sermon by "my pastor, Rev Jeremiah Wright". The Republican political machine, which demonstrated its mastery of the arts of character assassination in the two Bush presidential contests, will have no compunction in exploiting the Wright relationship and portraying Mr Obama as an anti-American in the general election, even if the Clinton campaign and the media observe a self-denying ordinance on the race and patriotism issues, as they broadly have so far.
The certainty of a no-holds-barred attacks by the Republicans brings us to the potentially most tragic aspect of this election. If ever there was an election the Democrats ought to win this is the one. Yet on the basis of the primary results so far, they are all too likely to lose it. Mr Obama may be marginally ahead of Mrs Clinton in the popular vote but the Democrats seem to have forgotten that all the votes cast so far have been by their own supporters. In the general election their candidate will have to win over Republicans and right-leaning floating voters. Most of the evidence so far suggests that the Repulicans will find it much easier to frighten voters about the prospect of a President Obama than a President Clinton.
Professional Democratic politicians now have the casting vote in their party's nomination and could yet force the two candidates into a "dream ticket" led by Mrs Clinton with Mr Obama as Vice President which would sweep all before it and would probably make Mr Obama unbeatable as a presidential candidate in 2012 or 2016. Yet the Democratic superdelegates who could now secure years of hegemony for their party seem to consider it "unfair" to use their professional judgment to overturn the "democratic" verdict of primary voters.
The Republicans will have no such compunctions about the fairness of launching personal attacks against a potentially vulnerable Democratic candidate. In this respect this Presidential contest may again manifest the tragedy of left-wing politics through the ages. Parties which care more about fairness than about power, end up achieving neither.
Posted by: Patrick Richardson | April 24, 2008 5:27 PM
I am a 61 yr. old woman, Hillary's "demographic", but she will never get my vote. The above article is just one of many reasons. It is the height of hypocrisy to tell others not to endorse before the primary when you have done that yourself. I pray that these three officials will follow their consciences and endorse whomever and whenever they choose.
Posted by: Carrie | April 24, 2008 5:17 PM
Rhetorical question: Why can't Hillary win college educated voters?
Posted by: James | April 24, 2008 5:16 PM
Every time I see Evan Byah on tv, my first thought is that he is insincere. It is kind of hard to respect and listen to a person who you know is being deceptive in their conversation with you. That is the way he impresses me. And believe me, there is something in this for Byah and Ed Rendell.
Posted by: Celina | April 24, 2008 5:16 PM
"WashingtonPost...L...I...C...K...S........Hillary's...B...A...L...L...S"--Hey, does somebody know something about Billary I haven't already heard?
Posted by: Gugenheim | April 24, 2008 5:00 PM
Gotta love that supression of free speech. I'd be proud to have supporters that use such strong-arm methods.
Posted by: Progressive Patriot | April 24, 2008 5:00 PM
Evan Bayh apparently believes that a mid-1980s DLC campaign can win a presidential election. The electorate and objective social conditions have changed substantially in 20 plus years.
Clinton's DLC inspired campaign has even failed to win the primary election, despite her huge advantage going into the campaign.
Posted by: Chris Brown | April 24, 2008 4:43 PM
Amazing... once again the rules for Clinton are different than for Obama. Bayh can endorse, but those favoring Obama can't? Give us all a break... Stop making fools of yourselves backing the Bosnian War hero, Ms. Clinton. D.
Posted by: David G. | April 24, 2008 4:38 PM
It's amazing how it's considered pride when African Americans
vote 90 percent for Obama, but White Americans voting for
Clinton is considered racism. I have nothing against African Americans, but they could stand to be more objective in this campaign. One last thing, I also find it interesting that they keep saying the better educated are voting for Obama. Is it perhaps that they have better jobs and just don't realize how bad things really are for blue collar workers? One thing we have learned from this election is that there are far to many self-indulged folks in America. Personally. I find Clinton's solutions for America to contain far more substance then Obamas and I
could careless about color or gender.
Posted by: Tony | April 24, 2008 4:31 PM
I am totally disgusted. What gives Sen. Bayh the right to try to control their votes, just because they are not for Hillary. He has already endorsed and so what makes him better than the House members. Sen. Bayh is playing politics and there is great question as to his motive. No, there's no question. I respected him before, but now he has proven that he is nothing but slime. Hillary had an army of support in PA. but now she is worried because some people want to endorse Obama in Indiana. The DNC needs to sstep in right now and check Sen. Bayh and deter him from trying to threaaten superdelegates. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Posted by: Margie Harris | April 24, 2008 4:31 PM
Don't listen to Evan Bayh Superdelegates, endorse Barack Obama now!! Thank you.
Posted by: RuthieM | April 24, 2008 4:26 PM
Why are people even talking about Hillary?
She was gone way back on super Tuesday.
Don't anybody know their math.
Posted by: frank | April 24, 2008 4:25 PM
So, let me understand....
sen Bayth endorsed Hillary, and he wants the other superdelegates to be quiet so Hillary has a greater chance of winning???
Dindn't she have enough help in Pennsylvania???
The Clinton people really thinks she is superior. i guess she is, she is white!!!
I'm a white female, 43 year old
Posted by: eli | April 24, 2008 4:14 PM
Why should they hold back on their endorsement? You didn't!
Posted by: Cassandra; Mad in Michigan | April 24, 2008 4:13 PM
Why should they hold back on their endorsement? You didn't!
Posted by: Cassandra in Michigan | April 24, 2008 4:12 PM
Obama Aides Deny They Will Use
White House Controversies Against Clinton
Barack Obama's campaign pushed back hard against suggestions from a Democratic strategist, made in today's Washington Post, that the Illinois senator's campaign may dredge up controversies from the Clinton White House years in the run-up to the May 6 Indiana and North Carolina primaries. --
THIS IS PATHETIC!! HILLARY CAMPAIGN STAFF ARE AFRAID OBAMA WILL TELL ON THEM ABOUT HILLAY'S PAST LIE AND FBI INVESTIGATIONS!!
OH NO!! TELLING TRUTH WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE AND ELECTED...
WASHINGTON AND THE WHITE HOUSE ARE SCRAMBLING FOR SUPERDELEGATES FOR OBAMA, JUST TO SHUT HIM UP...
THIS IS GETTING GOOD, WHERE'S MY T.O POPCORN!!
Posted by: ROFLMAO!! | April 24, 2008 4:10 PM
It seems to me that Mr. Bayh wasn't against Mayor Nutter of my Philadelphia endorsing Hillary Clinton, even though, as demonstrated, Obama had over 30% higher support in our City... Why doesn't he just stop opposing the will of the people? The people of this Country have spoken, and Hillary Clinton can't catch up because in PA she didn't win by enough. Game over, go home, and let people support whomever they want.
Posted by: Jack | April 24, 2008 4:07 PM
The Clintons will try anything to win (hook or crook). Did Billary show the votes in FLA/Michgan should count before she was losing. (NOPE) I know that if the Clintons steal this election (any backdoor trickery) that they will the African-American vote. Hillary keeps saying that a Obama can't win the election without Blue-collared, white men and the elderly. He has won more support from those groups than she has from the African-americans. Check the numbers.
Ask yourself if you had a near death experience(car accident, heart attack, or BEING SHOT AT WITH YOUR CHILD) would you misspeak(LIE) or tell the truth?
Now is Obama perfect(HECK NO) Pastor Wright(listen to the entire speech), Bitter(I understand what he was saying but it is how you say things) , and the last debate. But ask yourself when was the last time that we had so many people of different races and background.(Tiger). Something that the country needs.
Do we want the same old experience running this country or is it time for something diffent.(CAN'T KEEP DOING THE SAME THINGS EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS)What so much more experience does she that Obama does not? He has been a elected official longer than she has. Ask your self can your wife do your job just because you are married and you dicuss what happened on your job today.
Posted by: Derrick | April 24, 2008 4:06 PM
Of course he would say that...he's vying for VP and he can't win Indiana of others endorse Senator Obama... so everyone please step aside... they are holding royal court and don't want anyone getting in their way...sheeesh!!!!!
It's time for the superdelegates to endorse and move this race forward.
Senator Obama will be our nominee and we can move on to defeating John McCain.
I have moved beyond losing all respect for Senator Clinton to being completely disgusted wih the Clintons and their campaign....
I am so grateful that Senator Obama is a man of integrity and character even if it makes it harder for him to win more quickly and more decisively... I respect him.
Obama '08
Posted by: LB | April 24, 2008 4:05 PM
Of course he would say that...he's vying for VP and he can't win Indiana of others endorse Senator Obama... so everyone please step aside... they are holding royal court and don't want anyone getting in their way...sheeesh!!!!!
It's time for the superdelegates to endorse and move this race forward.
Senator Obama will be our nominee and we can move on to defeating John McCain.
I have moved beyond losing all respect for Senator Clinton to being completely disgusted wih the Clintons and their campaign....
I am so grateful that Senator Obama is a man of integrity and character even if it makes it harder for him to win more quickly and more decisively... I respect him.
Obama '08
Posted by: LB | April 24, 2008 4:05 PM
The loser in all this in-fighting and hatred?
liberalism and the democratic party. This is what happens when you try and take in all the "victims" of a nation. Those that can't do for themselves so they expect a bigger government to do it for them. What a bunch of babies, grow up and get a job.
Posted by: | April 24, 2008 3:58 PM
Lets talk about votes. How bad would it be for Obama without that crazy Texas system where she kicks his "arse" but gets only slightly more dels because of the lunatics who will and have the time to spend all day voting and revoting. Give it up. Don't want to lose in Nov. because of you morons. We need stability. What do you have invested? Why does Casey such a weiney need his no nothing, no skin in the game, daughter to make up his mind? He doesn't, he's just doesn't have a backbone.
Posted by: becaucus | April 24, 2008 3:55 PM
I read all this talk by superdelegates and the media and the Clinton campaign that Obama has a problem with white, blue-collar voters. Thus, Clinton is the more electable candidate.
Apparently there are no other demographic groups that are important to a general election.
Gov Rendell said, and I feel many supers agree, that "Senator Clinton is the best standard-bearer for us in the fall, and superdelegates need to take a deep breath and think about that."
Apparently he feels that the best standard-bearer is the one who loses the most elections.
And now there is all this talk about how the primary system is not fair because it's not winner-take-all and there are caucuses. "Hillary would be winning if this were the GOP primary," her husband said. Apparently Bill Clinton is confused and thinks Hillary is a republican because of the smear campaign she's running.
This just floors me. It's totally absurd. The Clinton's will do anything to draw doubt on the leader because they are losing. And if Obama wins, they want him to be tainted, as if he somehow cheated his way through the primary, so he will lose support. It's her or nobody in her mind.
Is that the standard-bearer for the democratic party? The one who's way behind in national polling, and the one whose negatives are through the roof? Is that where Democrats want to go? I remember a time when the Democratic Party dominated the House and the Senate, controlled the majority of State legislatures, and Governorships. Then the Clintons took over the party in 1992. Within two years we lost control of the Congress, and lost races across the country. Is that the standard-bearer we want?
Is Barack Obama a Muslim? "No, he is not a Muslim...as far as I know." Is this the person we want to represent the Democratic Party?
We are the Democratic Party. We are the party that said count every vote in the 2000 election, the party that had the candidate with the most votes lose. So we continue with the primaries but the candidate who emerges the winner should then lose the nomination because he is the weakest candidate?
Last time I checked the most electable candidate was the one who had won the most elections, the most delegates and the most popular vote. Even if you add in Fla, she's behind. And of course the Clintons would like to add Mi, even though Obama wasn't on the ballot.
If Clinton were given the nomination because she won Ohio and Penn where there are old, blue-collar voters, then there is no reason to hold primaries in other states. And the past six months have been a complete waste of time and money. I mean, the Clinton logic is nonsense, but stupid enough for the democratic party to buy into. The Democratic Party is obsessed with what the Republicans might exploit. Oh, no, Barack Obama lives in the same city as Minister Farrakhan. Therefore, Obama must be a Muslim.
And now it all comes down to Indiana. If Clinton wins that she should be the nominee? Or,wait, it all comes down to the popular vote. Whoever wins that should be the nominee. Okay, so if she loses that then it all comes down to who wins the states with the most electoral votes.
(By the way, there is no proof that because you won a primary that you will win that state. Last time I checked, McCain won the Penn primary, too.)
I will say this: I cannot support a political party that would ever overturn the results of six months of elections. And if Obama were to come out of these primaries ahead in all three metrics and lose, the democratic party would not only lose me, but African-Americans, new voters, young voters and liberals.
I am not a Clinton hater. I object to the way she practices politics. I object to the fact that she voted for the Iraq war to prove she was tough on national security. I object to the lies she tells about her service in order to pad her CV. I object to her walking around talking about obliterating Iran. But if she were to win the most votes and the most delegates and the most states I would support her.
But ask yourself this: Where do we as a party want to go? Clinton's supporters are over 50 and earn under 50 grand. In either case, does the party want to trade in the young that have come into the political process by the millions thanks to Obama for a bunch of blue-collar voters who abandoned the Democratic Party for Ronald Reagan?
I don't think so.
Posted by: edzo2 | April 24, 2008 3:50 PM
"Don't endorse"? That's his idea of leadership? WHAT A THUG! Get on the bus or get out of the way. Bayh, your career is history.
Posted by: Emmanuel Winner | April 24, 2008 3:48 PM
what the f? Idiots like this will assure a victory for Obama.
Democratic Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh -- a strong supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton -- has been leaning on the Hoosier State's freshman House members to stay on the sidelines rather than endorse Sen. Barack Obama.
Posted by: bobby b | April 24, 2008 3:42 PM
So, I was at this fund raising gig in Baltimore a few weeks back and an acquaintance mentioned that Senator Bayh was at the top of the Clitons "short list" You ask why Evan Bayh does what he does?
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