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Fiscal Discipline Not on Agenda for Democrats

By Dan Balz
It's too bad there won't be a Democratic debate in North Carolina this weekend. Thanks to the good work of my colleague Ruth Marcus and an editorial in Friday's Washington Post, there would be plenty of questions for both Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton about how they plan to prevent blowing a new hole in the federal deficit.

The Democratic race has featured much talk about new initiatives for expanding health-care coverage, paying for rising college tuition costs, creating jobs, providing displaced workers new skills, investing in alternative energies and giving tax cuts to middle-class families.

For the first time, The Post editorial page added up the cost of these promises. They amount to about $330 billion annually for Obama and about $265 billion annually for Clinton. Roll in the cost of rolling back President Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and some other tax changes and the budgetary gap is instantly clear.

The candidates' spending promises have come despite assurances, particularly from Clinton, that they recognize the need to restore some fiscal discipline in Washington. Clinton has talked about this since before becoming a candidate. Here's what she said in April 2006, speaking to the Economic Club of Chicago:

"I think a return to fiscal discipline, living within our means, is essential to our long-term health. It is also critical to whether or not we control our own destiny as a nation. ... Red-ink fiscal policies will undermine America's competitiveness. We have to ask ourselves whether our taxing and spending policies are in line with our economic goals."

Her campaign has often pointed to ways in which she would offset the cost of new spending -- with revoking the Bush tax cuts and ending subsidies to oil companies the favored new revenue sources for the new programs. But as The Post editorial suggests, the potential gap between real spending and imagined savings could be substantial.

Obama has been even less, shall we say, disciplined about fiscal discipline. If the budget deficit worries him, he rarely lets it show. His politics of change do not feature as a central tenet a break from the often irresponsible approach to deficits practiced by the Bush administration and by many Democratic administrations of the past.

The Clinton administration was an exception. With a valuable push from the Gingrich-led Republicans in Congress, President Bill Clinton presided over a balanced budget. The combination of a robust -- even overheated -- tech-driven economy and a political détente on the budget brought about a sudden and significant shift in the fiscal picture.

The rosy projections of budget surpluses quickly disappeared once Bush took office, thanks to massive tax cuts and a war in Iraq that has far exceeded even the costliest estimates at the time of the invasion in 2003.

Among the Democratic candidates, only John Edwards spoke forthrightly about the deficit. He didn't particularly care whether it grew while he was president. Edwards was candid in saying that, given the trade-offs, he preferred to spend $100 billion or so annually to achieve universal health care and additional resources into other new programs than to worry about the budgetary consequences. At least with Edwards, the voters knew what they were getting.

With Obama and Clinton, that is far less clear. Clinton has resisted outlining any plans for dealing with the fiscal health of Social Security by arguing that until Washington brings back some fiscal sanity, there is no point it tackling the looming entitlements problem. But as The Post editorial makes clear, getting to that promised land of manageable red ink or better will be far harder than she's acknowledged.

Obama has been more forthcoming about Social Security -- and Clinton has hammered him for doing so -- but overall appears to be less a fiscal hawk than she is.

The candidates know they can dance effectively away from most questions about whether their plans add up. The press has little patience for that kind of debate, particularly given the other elements of this contested Democratic race. Voters say they care about the deficit, but their concerns don't rise to the level of their fear of losing a job or trying to pay for gasoline or health care.

The Post editorial does not give John McCain a pass either. The champion of spending discipline has suddenly become a supply-side tax cutter this spring. He too has questions to answer about how he would manage the budget.

What is at issue here is credibility as much as economics. Experts long have debated what constitutes a manageable deficit -- and even whether sustained surpluses are healthy. The question is whether voters can trust any of the candidates when it comes to speaking honestly about the deficit. At this stage, as The Post editorial page makes clear, they have appear to have a credibility gap.

Posted at 12:06 PM ET on Apr 25, 2008  | Category:  Dan Balz's Take
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"Roll in the cost of rolling back President Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and some other tax changes and the budgetary gap is instantly clear."

What are you, idiots? "Rolling back...tax cuts" will SAVE MONEY, not add to the cost.

No wonder the American public is so uninformed, with idiot reporters like you spouting this kind of nonsense.

Posted by: rita forte | April 25, 2008 11:35 PM

CITIZENS,


howz about


you require your country to work for _you_

and

THAT _IS_ the National Security ISSUE...

this country does not and should not exist solely

so that "fill in the blank," gets to feel okay about his destruction of our economy to enrich his friends...


and "his or her" use of the government to enrich "him or her" as a way of doing business without worrying about recompense for the people


or how they/ _WE_


are affected...


they don't have to be responsible.


outsourcing downsizing internationalization


all of a sudden bankruptcy laws were tightened and overtime was allowed to not be paid


that's what the government and corporations needed......


they effing _caused it_


you have to effing _pay for it_

how about mandating that

we as a country start doing


the _right_


thing?

and that the majority get served, not the minority...


and punish those that would use disinformation to control you.


this is not the effing soviet union and we don't need a pravda feeding us effing lies on a daily basis....


Rupert Murdoch tried to own the media business....blah blah Fox News..blah..
.

take it away from them, and take away the money from them that they have stolen from you....


.

Posted by: hello pork lovers... | April 25, 2008 7:38 PM

Neil C -- teachers and government employees garner a disproportionate share of the national wealth?

Based on what imaginary metric?

Most career civil servants opt into government service at substantially lower rate of pay than they would earn in the private sector.

Teachers get paid peanuts in this country compared to what they might earn in other more developed countries -- this is also true in reference to the private sector.

Gary -- I'd be curious to see some hard numbers to back up your claims too.

Illegal immigrants have paid about $100 billion into social security over the past ten years (this is based on social security revenue that can't be linked back to a legitimate social security number -- most of this money is coming from illegal immigrants).

Illegal immigration does have a big impact on the local level in some states -- and it also has an impact on wage pressures for low-skilled workers. Not at $9,000 per taxpayer. Maybe a net of $90. Not $9,000.

Posted by: JP2 | April 25, 2008 7:33 PM

Hillary Clintion will be the BEST PRESIDENT we ever had.
She is already the BEST SENATOR we ever had.
She was the BEST FIRST LADY we ever had.

She is the BEST MOTHER we ever had on this planet.
She is THE BEST HUMAN we ever had on this planet.

She is simply THE BEST...BETTER than all the rest...and that includes ...

YOU!

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Annie Rodham Oakly | April 25, 2008 7:12 PM

America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb
By Robert Parry
December 13, 2004

In 1996, journalist Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that forced a long-overdue investigation of a very dark chapter of recent U.S. foreign policy - the Reagan-Bush administration's protection of cocaine traffickers who operated under the cover of the Nicaraguan contra war in the 1980s.

For his brave reporting at the San Jose Mercury News, Webb paid a high price. He was attacked by journalistic colleagues at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the American Journalism Review and even the Nation magazine. Under this media pressure, his editor Jerry Ceppos sold out the story and demoted Webb, causing him to quit the Mercury News. Even Webb's marriage broke up.

On Friday, Dec. 10, Gary Webb, 49, was found dead of an apparent suicide, a gunshot wound to the head.

Whatever the details of Webb's death, American history owes him a huge debt. Though denigrated by much of the national news media, Webb's contra-cocaine series prompted internal investigations by the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department, probes that confirmed that scores of contra units and contra-connected individuals were implicated in the drug trade. The probes also showed that the Reagan-Bush administration frustrated investigations into those crimes for geopolitical reasons.

Failed Media

Unintentionally, Webb also exposed the cowardice and unprofessional behavior that had become the new trademarks of the major U.S. news media by the mid-1990s. The big news outlets were always hot on the trail of some titillating scandal - the O.J. Simpson case or the Monica Lewinsky scandal - but the major media could no longer grapple with serious crimes of state.

Even after the CIA's inspector general issued his findings in 1998, the major newspapers could not muster the talent or the courage to explain those extraordinary government admissions to the American people. Nor did the big newspapers apologize for their unfair treatment of Gary Webb. Foreshadowing the media incompetence that would fail to challenge George W. Bush's case for war with Iraq five years later, the major news organizations effectively hid the CIA's confession from the American people.

The New York Times and the Washington Post never got much past the CIA's "executive summary," which tried to put the best spin on Inspector General Frederick Hitz's findings. The Los Angeles Times never even wrote a story after the final volume of the CIA's report was published, though Webb's initial story had focused on contra-connected cocaine shipments to South-Central Los Angeles.

The Los Angeles Times' cover-up has now continued after Webb's death. In a harsh obituary about Webb, the Times reporter, who called to interview me, ignored my comments about the debt the nation owed Webb and the importance of the CIA's inspector general findings. Instead of using Webb's death as an opportunity to finally get the story straight, the Times acted as if there never had been an official investigation confirming many of Webb's allegations. [Los Angeles Times, Dec. 12, 2004.]

By maintaining the contra-cocaine cover-up - even after the CIA's inspector general had admitted the facts - the big newspapers seemed to have understood that they could avoid any consequences for their egregious behavior in the 1990s or for their negligence toward the contra-cocaine issue when it first surfaced in the 1980s. After all, the conservative news media - the chief competitor to the mainstream press - isn't going to demand a reexamination of the crimes of the Reagan-Bush years.

That means that only a few minor media outlets, like our own Consortiumnews.com, will go back over the facts now, just as only a few of us addressed the significance of the government admissions in the late 1990s. I compiled and explained the findings of the CIA/Justice investigations in my 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'

Contra-Cocaine Case

Lost History, which took its name from a series at this Web site, also describes how the contra-cocaine story first reached the public in a story that Brian Barger and I wrote for the Associated Press in December 1985. Though the big newspapers pooh-poohed our discovery, Sen. John Kerry followed up our story with his own groundbreaking investigation. For his efforts, Kerry also encountered media ridicule. Newsweek dubbed the Massachusetts senator a "randy conspiracy buff." [For details, see Consortiumnews.com's "Kerry's Contra-Cocaine Chapter."]

So when Gary Webb revived the contra-cocaine issue in August 1996 with a 20,000-word three-part series entitled "Dark Alliance," editors at major newspapers already had a powerful self-interest to slap down a story that they had disparaged for the past decade.

The challenge to their earlier judgments was doubly painful because the Mercury-News' sophisticated Web site ensured that Webb's series made a big splash on the Internet, which was just emerging as a threat to the traditional news media. Also, the African-American community was furious at the possibility that U.S. government policies had contributed to the crack-cocaine epidemic.

In other words, the mostly white, male editors at the major newspapers saw their preeminence in judging news challenged by an upstart regional newspaper, the Internet and common American citizens who also happened to be black. So, even as the CIA was prepared to conduct a relatively thorough and honest investigation, the major newspapers seemed more eager to protect their reputations and their turf.

Without doubt, Webb's series had its limitations. It primarily tracked one West Coast network of contra-cocaine traffickers from the early-to-mid 1980s. Webb connected that cocaine to an early "crack" production network that supplied Los Angeles street gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, leading to Webb's conclusion that contra cocaine fueled the early crack epidemic that devastated Los Angeles and other U.S. cities.

Counterattack

When black leaders began demanding a full investigation of these charges, the Washington media joined the political Establishment in circling the wagons. It fell to Rev. Sun Myung Moon's right-wing Washington Times to begin the counterattack against Webb's series. The Washington Times turned to some former CIA officials, who participated in the contra war, to refute the drug charges.

But - in a pattern that would repeat itself on other issues in the following years - the Washington Post and other mainstream newspapers quickly lined up behind the conservative news media. On Oct. 4, 1996, the Washington Post published a front-page article knocking down Webb's story.

The Post's approach was twofold: first, it presented the contra-cocaine allegations as old news - "even CIA personnel testified to Congress they knew that those covert operations involved drug traffickers," the Post reported - and second, the Post minimized the importance of the one contra smuggling channel that Webb had highlighted - that it had not "played a major role in the emergence of crack." A Post side-bar story dismissed African-Americans as prone to "conspiracy fears."

Soon, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times joined in the piling on of Gary Webb. The big newspapers made much of the CIA's internal reviews in 1987 and 1988 that supposedly cleared the spy agency of a role in contra-cocaine smuggling.

But the CIA's decade-old cover-up began to crumble on Oct. 24, 1996, when CIA Inspector General Hitz conceded before the Senate Intelligence Committee that the first CIA probe had lasted only 12 days, the second only three days. He promised a more thorough review.

Mocking Webb

Meanwhile, however, Gary Webb became the target of outright media ridicule. Influential Post media critic Howard Kurtz mocked Webb for saying in a book proposal that he would explore the possibility that the contra war was primarily a business to its participants. "Oliver Stone, check your voice mail," Kurtz chortled. [Washington Post, Oct. 28, 1996]

Webb's suspicion was not unfounded, however. Indeed, White House aide Oliver North's emissary Rob Owen had made the same point a decade earlier, in a March 17, 1986, message about the contra leadership. "Few of the so-called leaders of the movement ... really care about the boys in the field," Owen wrote. "THIS WAR HAS BECOME A BUSINESS TO MANY OF THEM." [Capitalization in the original.]

Nevertheless, the pillorying of Gary Webb was on, in earnest. The ridicule also had a predictable effect on the executives of the Mercury-News. By early 1997, executive editor Jerry Ceppos was in retreat.

On May 11, 1997, Ceppos published a front-page column saying the series "fell short of my standards." He criticized the stories because they "strongly implied CIA knowledge" of contra connections to U.S. drug dealers who were manufacturing crack-cocaine. "We did not have proof that top CIA officials knew of the relationship."

The big newspapers celebrated Ceppos's retreat as vindication of their own dismissal of the contra-cocaine stories. Ceppos next pulled the plug on the Mercury-News' continuing contra-cocaine investigation and reassigned Webb to a small office in Cupertino, California, far from his family. Webb resigned the paper in disgrace.

For undercutting Webb and the other reporters working on the contra investigation, Ceppos was lauded by the American Journalism Review and was given the 1997 national "Ethics in Journalism Award" by the Society of Professional Journalists. While Ceppos won raves, Webb watched his career collapse and his marriage break up.

Probes Advance

Still, Gary Webb had set in motion internal government investigations that would bring to the surface long-hidden facts about how the Reagan-Bush administration had conducted the contra war. The CIA's defensive line against the contra-cocaine allegations began to break when the spy agency published Volume One of Hitz's findings on Jan. 29, 1998.

Despite a largely exculpatory press release, Hitz's Volume One admitted that not only were many of Webb's allegations true but that he actually understated the seriousness of the contra-drug crimes and the CIA's knowledge. Hitz acknowledged that cocaine smugglers played a significant early role in the Nicaraguan contra movement and that the CIA intervened to block an image-threatening 1984 federal investigation into a San Francisco-based drug ring with suspected ties to the contras. [For details, see Robert Parry's Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth']

On May 7, 1998, another disclosure from the government investigation shook the CIA's weakening defenses. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat, introduced into the Congressional Record a Feb. 11, 1982, letter of understanding between the CIA and the Justice Department. The letter, which had been sought by CIA Director William Casey, freed the CIA from legal requirements that it must report drug smuggling by CIA assets, a provision that covered both the Nicaraguan contras and Afghan rebels who were fighting a Soviet-supported regime in Afghanistan.

Justice Report

Another crack in the defensive wall opened when the Justice Department released a report by its inspector general, Michael Bromwich. Given the hostile climate surrounding Webb's series, Bromwich's report opened with criticism of Webb. But, like the CIA's Volume One, the contents revealed new details about government wrongdoing.

According to evidence cited by the report, the Reagan-Bush administration knew almost from the outset of the contra war that cocaine traffickers permeated the paramilitary operation. The administration also did next to nothing to expose or stop the criminal activities. The report revealed example after example of leads not followed, corroborated witnesses disparaged, official law-enforcement investigations sabotaged, and even the CIA facilitating the work of drug traffickers.

The Bromwich report showed that the contras and their supporters ran several parallel drug-smuggling operations, not just the one at the center of Webb's series. The report also found that the CIA shared little of its information about contra drugs with law-enforcement agencies and on three occasions disrupted cocaine-trafficking investigations that threatened the contras.

Though depicting a more widespread contra-drug operation than Webb had understood, the Justice report also provided some important corroboration about a Nicaraguan drug smuggler, Norwin Meneses, who was a key figure in Webb's series. Bromwich cited U.S. government informants who supplied detailed information about Meneses's operation and his financial assistance to the contras.

For instance, Renato Pena, a money-and-drug courier for Meneses, said that in the early 1980s, the CIA allowed the contras to fly drugs into the United States, sell them and keep the proceeds. Pena, who also was the northern California representative for the CIA-backed FDN contra army, said the drug trafficking was forced on the contras by the inadequate levels of U.S. government assistance.

The Justice report also disclosed repeated examples of the CIA and U.S. embassies in Central America discouraging Drug Enforcement Administration investigations, including one into alleged contra-cocaine shipments moving through the airport in El Salvador. In an understated conclusion, Inspector General Bromwich said secrecy trumped all. "We have no doubt that the CIA and the U.S. Embassy were not anxious for the DEA to pursue its investigation at the airport," he wrote.

CIA's Volume Two

Despite the remarkable admissions in the body of these reports, the big newspapers showed no inclination to read beyond the press releases and executive summaries. By fall 1998, official Washington was obsessed with the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal, which made it easier to ignore even more stunning contra-cocaine disclosures in the CIA's Volume Two..

In Volume Two, published Oct. 8, 1998, CIA Inspector General Hitz identified more than 50 contras and contra-related entities implicated in the drug trade. He also detailed how the Reagan-Bush administration had protected these drug operations and frustrated federal investigations, which had threatened to expose the crimes in the mid-1980s. Hitz even published evidence that drug trafficking and money laundering tracked into Reagan's National Security Council where Oliver North oversaw the contra operations.

Hitz revealed, too, that the CIA placed an admitted drug money launderer in charge of the Southern Front contras in Costa Rica. Also, according to Hitz's evidence, the second-in-command of contra forces on the Northern Front in Honduras had escaped from a Colombian prison where he was serving time for drug trafficking

In Volume Two, the CIA's defense against Webb's series had shrunk to a tiny fig leaf: that the CIA did not conspire with the contras to raise money through cocaine trafficking. But Hitz made clear that the contra war took precedence over law enforcement and that the CIA withheld evidence of contra crimes from the Justice Department, the Congress and even the CIA's own analytical division.

Hitz found in CIA files evidence that the spy agency knew from the first days of the contra war that its new clients were involved in the cocaine trade. According to a September 1981 cable to CIA headquarters, one of the early contra groups, known as ADREN, had decided to use drug trafficking as a financing mechanism. Two ADREN members made the first delivery of drugs to Miami in July 1981, the CIA cable reported.

ADREN's leaders included Enrique Bermudez, who emerged as the top contra military commander in the 1980s. Webb's series had identified Bermudez as giving the green light to contra fundraising by drug trafficker Meneses. Hitz's report added that that the CIA had another Nicaraguan witness who implicated Bermudez in the drug trade in 1988.

Priorities

Besides tracing the evidence of contra-drug trafficking through the decade-long contra war, the inspector general interviewed senior CIA officers who acknowledged that they were aware of the contra-drug problem but didn't want its exposure to undermine the struggle to overthrow the leftist Sandinista government.

According to Hitz, the CIA had "one overriding priority: to oust the Sandinista government. ... [CIA officers] were determined that the various difficulties they encountered not be allowed to prevent effective implementation of the contra program." One CIA field officer explained, "The focus was to get the job done, get the support and win the war."

Hitz also recounted complaints from CIA analysts that CIA operations officers handling the contra war hid evidence of contra-drug trafficking even from the CIA's analytical division. Because of the withheld evidence, the CIA analysts incorrectly concluded in the mid-1980s that "only a handful of contras might have been involved in drug trafficking." That false assessment was passed on to Congress and the major news organizations - serving as an important basis for denouncing Gary Webb and his series in 1996.

Though Hitz's report was an extraordinary admission of institutional guilt by the CIA, it passed almost unnoticed by the big newspapers.

Two days after Hitz's report was posted at the CIA's Internet site, the New York Times did a brief article that continued to deride Webb's work, while acknowledging that the contra-drug problem may indeed have been worse than earlier understood. Several weeks later, the Washington Post weighed in with a similarly superficial article. The Los Angeles Times never published a story on the release of the CIA's Volume Two.

Consequences

To this day, no editor or reporter who missed the contra-drug story has been punished for his or her negligence. Indeed, many of them are now top executives at their news organizations. On the other hand, Gary Webb's career never recovered.

At Webb's death, however, it should be noted that his great gift to American history was that he - along with angry African-American citizens - forced the government to admit some of the worst crimes ever condoned by any American administration: the protection of drug smuggling into the United States as part of a covert war against a country, Nicaragua, that represented no real threat to Americans.

The truth was ugly. Certainly the major news organizations would have come under criticism themselves if they had done their job and laid out this troubling story to the American people. Conservative defenders of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush would have been sure to howl in protest.

But the real tragedy of Webb's historic gift - and of his life cut short - is that because of the major news media's callowness and cowardice, this dark chapter of the Reagan-Bush era remains largely unknown to the American people.


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Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His new book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'


Posted by: is duh monkey angwy...can't contwol hesellf ???? | April 25, 2008 7:04 PM

when an OCCUPATION, sucks the economy dry, demands a lot of a non existent tax base, and contributes very little in_country to the citizens...

and our politicians support it because it's MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS, regardless of what the country needs...

as in Dianne Feinsteins' backing of Mukasey...

WELL FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WONDERED WHY FEINSTEIN SWITCHED HER VOTE:

this should help,

HopeSpringsATurtle wrote:
.....
I believe the mask of connivance is slipping as demonstrated by Dianne Feinstein's vote for Mukasey.

Her vote is part of the price she's paying to her master the BushCo war-mongering, war services industry which directly benefits her war-profiteering husband

Richard Blum, a 75% partner in PERINI CORPORATION.

PERINI is a construction company that has received nearly a billion dollars in Iraq reconstruction funds.

end of HopeSpringsATurtle quote.

______________________________


SO DIANNE FIENSTEIN IS AN agent of Israel, an "Israel FIRST!!!," non-citizen disguised as a citizen of the United States and a WAR PROFITEER...

the quote is from a poster on the Paul Kane Blog

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/11/update_hoyer_impeachment_is_no.html

Posted by: distancing by pointing out the truth... | April 25, 2008 7:03 PM

maybe the reason George W. doesn't want to give up those emails is because they're about manboylove


Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?

By Bob Fertik

In 1998, Bill Clinton was impeached because of these 10 words:

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.


In 2003, New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey was forced to resign over a secret gay affair.

So what about George Bush and this man James Guckert (a.k.a. Jeff Gannon) - a $200/hour gay male prostitute? (See Monday's expose by John Aravosis of AmericaBlog.org [1])

Sooner or later, Washington will have to ask: Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?

On January 26, George W. Bush called on Guckert/Gannon at one of Bush's rare press conferences, "bypassing dozens of far more experienced reporters" according to Joe Strupp of Editor & Publisher [2].

I guess that depends on the meaning of "experienced."

This was not Guckert/Gannon's first time near Bush. Guckert/Gannon was at other Bush press conferences and was called on by Bush once before. Moreover, Guckert/Gannon went to the White House nearly every day for nearly 2 years. Each time he went, he got specific permission from Scott McClellan's White House Press Office. And Guckert/Gannon went to Bush's White House Christmas Party.

How did a $200/hour gay male prostitute get near George W. Bush nearly every day for 2 years?

Don't tell me the Secret Service didn't know Guckert/Gannon's background. It took amateur bloggers at DailyKos about 5 minutes to find out Gannon owned male prostitution websites, and just two weeks for Aravosis to find out he was a $200/hour sexual partner / wife substitute. I guarantee Scott McClellan and other top White House officials knew exactly who Guckert/Gannon was. According to RawStory.com, McClellan himself has been spotted at gay bars [3].

So how will the American people learn the sordid truth about Bush, the White House, and Guckert.


______________________________________________________


let's play "fair," here MSM

there's the same kinds of information outthere about Trent Lott, Karl Rove and others...


and the GOP posters here....let's see you go after your own about "morality,"

oh, you're just using "morality," as a position to


herd the sheeple? wotta a surprise from the people who gave you


"hate as a family value,"


Posted by: looks like we have a renegade operative...Watergate Hotel...take him down... | April 25, 2008 7:02 PM

INSIDER WASHINGTON is the epitome of unprincipled...

how does a really nice guy come in and take on Washington DC insiders by themselves...

they don't.


JIMMY CARTER, was backstabbed by William Casey, George H.W. Bush and Robert M. Gates...

CIA DIRECTOR William Casey, "died of a braintumor," ahem !right! , 6 weeks after being asked to testify before Congress about IRAN CONTRA and was buried with a closed casket...

George H.W. Bush went on to become vice president and then president...after commiting treason

Robert M. Gates is Secretary of Defense today...


how do you deal with people like that? you really have to be able to gut them and leave them flopping on the bank for a blue heron to eat...

parenthetically speaking...they are trash fish....like squawfish...they eat the salmon fingerlings and there are no "good fish," if there are too many of them...

which is why it would be a good idea for the "democratic candidates," to eliminate them now....

by identifying them...

SEARCH on October surprise, russian, carter, casey, bush, gates


it's all there....Hamilton knows about it, but Hamilton was persuaded by Dick Cheney to be bipartisan and pick up the soap....


and cheenie sang sooooooo sweetly in his ear he didn't even realize that he had commited treason....


and still thinks he's a "good guy," though history will treat him poorly.


.check it out.

Posted by: show them the door... | April 25, 2008 7:01 PM

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The Race That Wouldn't Die
Fighting for the nomination in such a way as to give the presidency to McCain is unforgivable.
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john mccain u s senator and gop presidential hopeful and candidate now trying to manipulate his nomination of gop is not trruely beyond laws. his chances of winning election of 2008 nov 4 is slim ? why his miscondicts in influence peddlinf have been reported in 47+ us d c jurisdioctions, U s court system is no dumb, it is possibly one of the best in world of democracies , although most democratic system are taintedbut billions of we the people are no dumb, no insane, we the people in usa are among the bests of people. law worls in most cases if not in all cases.
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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Truer words were never spoken. The media can certainly do a lot of damage.
They don't really discriminate either, if it can be made controversial, it will be exploited.
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2 (Level 1) it is true. but it may slightly differ in changed circumstance in democracies and we the people really our watchful with truth with news materials. pl take the quotation as is in respect of lead leader and in retrospect. see see below as a modern episode of truth linked with new media:
"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Mr Robinson the way that I see it, Obama got his wins in when he was riding high on the media-free wave. He's had a much tougher time of things now that the media is starting to actually ask him questions. I agree with you in theory that it's better for Obama to deal with spurious questions about aloofness or patriotism now than in the fall but I believe that vetting him now would risk his winning the nomination. There's no way Obama would survive the primary if the media should stop asking him about flag pins and Ayres and start asking him tougher questions such as: Obama campaigning for Odinga- the communist would-be president of Kenya whose first order of business once elected was to replace Kenya's democracy with Islamic law. BAIPA-the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that gave babies who had the misfortune of surviving late term abortions the right to medical treatment. While every single senator at the federal level agreed that a mother's right to choose ended with the birth of her baby, Obama fought the act for 3 years on the basis that it wasn't right to burden a mother with a baby she intended to abort in the first place. In plain words, Obama feels that a mother's burden is more important then a human life that's breathing outside the womb. A position most people in the United states don't agree with not to mention most countries around the world! Rezko- the millions of dollars Obama received in campaign contributions in exchange for city and state tax money and grants awarded to Rezko so he could build the slums that Obama's African Americans, the people fighting so hard to get him into the presidency, were made to live in. Even a question about the Byrne grant program could do Obama in. Obama's support for the Byrne anti-drug program, a corrupt and racist law enforcement program that targets African Americans and would no doubt bring up memories of Tulia Texas. If Obama were to be asked these questions he'll for sure lose the primary. If he's not asked these questions now you can bet the Republicans will ask him these in the GE and he'll lose the election for sure.
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the reverend dr kamal karna roy episode in u s politics is relevant on the issue . as reported by the reverend mr premansu roy das . rev makhan lal ghosh, thr rev atreyee sen roy, the rev ms paromita r baidya in conference with chief of campaign rev ms lisa n roy of new york : drkamal roy for cleanest us gop president 2008 if election be held without injunction from any u s district court in 47+ jurisdictions in usa where massive campaign corruption by 590+ defendants. dr roy wa petitioner for 490+ plaintiffs pro se, reported by premansu r das, the rev, & assistant of dr roy 4. 25. 2008:
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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john mccain u s senator and gop presidential hopeful and candidate now trying to manipulate his nomination of gop is not trruely beyond laws. his chances of winning election of 2008 nov 4 is slim ? why his miscondicts in influence peddlinf have been reported in 47+ us d c jurisdioctions, U s court system is no dumb, it is possibly one of the best in world of democracies , although most democratic system are taintedbut billions of we the people are no dumb, no insane, we the people in usa are among the bests of people. law worls in most cases if not in all cases.
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Mr Robinson the way that I see it, Obama got his wins in when he was riding high on the media-free wave. He's had a much tougher time of things now that the media is starting to actually ask him questions. I agree with you in theory that it's better for Obama to deal with spurious questions about aloofness or patriotism now than in the fall but I believe that vetting him now would risk his winning the nomination. There's no way Obama would survive the primary if the media should stop asking him about flag pins and Ayres and start asking him tougher questions such as: Obama campaigning for Odinga- the communist would-be president of Kenya whose first order of business once elected was to replace Kenya's democracy with Islamic law. BAIPA-the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that gave babies who had the misfortune of surviving late term abortions the right to medical treatment. While every single senator at the federal level agreed that a mother's right to choose ended with the birth of her baby, Obama fought the act for 3 years on the basis that it wasn't right to burden a mother with a baby she intended to abort in the first place. In plain words, Obama feels that a mother's burden is more important then a human life that's breathing outside the womb. A position most people in the United states don't agree with not to mention most countries around the world! Rezko- the millions of dollars Obama received in campaign contributions in exchange for city and state tax money and grants awarded to Rezko so he could build the slums that Obama's African Americans, the people fighting so hard to get him into the presidency, were made to live in. Even a question about the Byrne grant program could do Obama in. Obama's support for the Byrne anti-drug program, a corrupt and racist law enforcement program that targets African Americans and would no doubt bring up memories of Tulia Texas. If Obama were to be asked these questions he'll for sure lose the primary. If he's not asked these questions now you can bet the Republicans will ask him these in the GE and he'll lose the election for sure.
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the reverend dr kamal karna roy episode in u s politics is relevant on the issue . as reported by the reverend mr premansu roy das . rev makhan lal ghosh, thr rev atreyee sen roy, the rev ms paromita r baidya in conference with chief of campaign rev ms lisa n roy of new york : drkamal roy for cleanest us gop president 2008 if election be held without injunction from any u s district court in 47+ jurisdictions in usa where massive campaign corruption by 590+ defendants. dr roy wa petitioner for 490+ plaintiffs pro se, reported by premansu r das, the rev, & assistant of dr roy 4. 25. 2008:
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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2 (Level 1) it is true. but it may slightly differ in changed circumstance in democracies and we the people really our watchful with truth with news materials. pl take the quotation as is in respect of lead leader and in retrospect. see see below as a modern episode of truth linked with new media:
"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Posted by: | April 25, 2008 6:53 PM

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Fighting for the nomination in such a way as to give the presidency to McCain is unforgivable.
- By Eugene Robinson

Commentsrobin1231hotmailcom wrote:
john mccain u s senator and gop presidential hopeful and candidate now trying to manipulate his nomination of gop is not trruely beyond laws. his chances of winning election of 2008 nov 4 is slim ? why his miscondicts in influence peddlinf have been reported in 47+ us d c jurisdioctions, U s court system is no dumb, it is possibly one of the best in world of democracies , although most democratic system are taintedbut billions of we the people are no dumb, no insane, we the people in usa are among the bests of people. law worls in most cases if not in all cases.
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Mr Robinson the way that I see it, Obama got his wins in when he was riding high on the media-free wave. He's had a much tougher time of things now that the media is starting to actually ask him questions. I agree with you in theory that it's better for Obama to deal with spurious questions about aloofness or patriotism now than in the fall but I believe that vetting him now would risk his winning the nomination. There's no way Obama would survive the primary if the media should stop asking him about flag pins and Ayres and start asking him tougher questions such as: Obama campaigning for Odinga- the communist would-be president of Kenya whose first order of business once elected was to replace Kenya's democracy with Islamic law. BAIPA-the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that gave babies who had the misfortune of surviving late term abortions the right to medical treatment. While every single senator at the federal level agreed that a mother's right to choose ended with the birth of her baby, Obama fought the act for 3 years on the basis that it wasn't right to burden a mother with a baby she intended to abort in the first place. In plain words, Obama feels that a mother's burden is more important then a human life that's breathing outside the womb. A position most people in the United states don't agree with not to mention most countries around the world! Rezko- the millions of dollars Obama received in campaign contributions in exchange for city and state tax money and grants awarded to Rezko so he could build the slums that Obama's African Americans, the people fighting so hard to get him into the presidency, were made to live in. Even a question about the Byrne grant program could do Obama in. Obama's support for the Byrne anti-drug program, a corrupt and racist law enforcement program that targets African Americans and would no doubt bring up memories of Tulia Texas. If Obama were to be asked these questions he'll for sure lose the primary. If he's not asked these questions now you can bet the Republicans will ask him these in the GE and he'll lose the election for sure.
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the reverend dr kamal karna roy episode in u s politics is relevant on the issue . as reported by the reverend mr premansu roy das . rev makhan lal ghosh, thr rev atreyee sen roy, the rev ms paromita r baidya in conference with chief of campaign rev ms lisa n roy of new york : drkamal roy for cleanest us gop president 2008 if election be held without injunction from any u s district court in 47+ jurisdictions in usa where massive campaign corruption by 590+ defendants. dr roy wa petitioner for 490+ plaintiffs pro se, reported by premansu r das, the rev, & assistant of dr roy 4. 25. 2008:
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Posted by: | April 25, 2008 6:53 PM

All of these folks are indeed dead and it might all just be a tragic coincidence--- But I wouldn't want to be on their list of associates (just to be on the safe side)!!!!!!!!!!!

SO NOW YOU MIGHT VOTE FOR HILLARY? THINK ABOUT IT FIRST......

This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons :

1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."

7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."

34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to anyone who might damage the Clinton machine

Posted by: No Dummy | April 25, 2008 6:52 PM

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Commentsrobin1231hotmailcom wrote:
john mccain u s senator and gop presidential hopeful and candidate now trying to manipulate his nomination of gop is not trruely beyond laws. his chances of winning election of 2008 nov 4 is slim ? why his miscondicts in influence peddlinf have been reported in 47+ us d c jurisdioctions, U s court system is no dumb, it is possibly one of the best in world of democracies , although most democratic system are taintedbut billions of we the people are no dumb, no insane, we the people in usa are among the bests of people. law worls in most cases if not in all cases.
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Mr Robinson the way that I see it, Obama got his wins in when he was riding high on the media-free wave. He's had a much tougher time of things now that the media is starting to actually ask him questions. I agree with you in theory that it's better for Obama to deal with spurious questions about aloofness or patriotism now than in the fall but I believe that vetting him now would risk his winning the nomination. There's no way Obama would survive the primary if the media should stop asking him about flag pins and Ayres and start asking him tougher questions such as: Obama campaigning for Odinga- the communist would-be president of Kenya whose first order of business once elected was to replace Kenya's democracy with Islamic law. BAIPA-the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that gave babies who had the misfortune of surviving late term abortions the right to medical treatment. While every single senator at the federal level agreed that a mother's right to choose ended with the birth of her baby, Obama fought the act for 3 years on the basis that it wasn't right to burden a mother with a baby she intended to abort in the first place. In plain words, Obama feels that a mother's burden is more important then a human life that's breathing outside the womb. A position most people in the United states don't agree with not to mention most countries around the world! Rezko- the millions of dollars Obama received in campaign contributions in exchange for city and state tax money and grants awarded to Rezko so he could build the slums that Obama's African Americans, the people fighting so hard to get him into the presidency, were made to live in. Even a question about the Byrne grant program could do Obama in. Obama's support for the Byrne anti-drug program, a corrupt and racist law enforcement program that targets African Americans and would no doubt bring up memories of Tulia Texas. If Obama were to be asked these questions he'll for sure lose the primary. If he's not asked these questions now you can bet the Republicans will ask him these in the GE and he'll lose the election for sure.
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Posted by: JAYANTI AICH, POLITICAL REFORMS AGENT | April 25, 2008 6:49 PM

John Gillnitz - "The last Dem we put in the White House had a budget surplus."

John, that Democrat turned the Democratic Party into his own personal priesthood and worship team. When he entered office
the Democrats had solid majorities in the House and Senate. When he left office, they had lost both. When he entered office, 25% of federal revenues were from trade tariff's and those tariff's
protected Amercian jobs. When he left office, tariff's had disappeared. He enacted the H1-B and L-1 visa programs, and got us onto the globalization train wreck that squarely landed us in our present economic straights. It is not too much to say that Bill Clinton, the entire Democratic leadership, is as reponsible for
the present economic mess as is Bush-Cheney and the fools of the Republican Party. Understand this, if you understand nothing else, *neither* party has your interests at heart. Either will sell you out in a second for Wall Street "walking around" money. You mean NOTHING to them. They will promise you everything, but deliver NOTHING, once the votes are cast. We live in a bankrupt country, literally morally, politicially, intellectually, and economically bankrupt. The best we can hope for is that the job and food riots this Fall will frighten enough of those old fools into actually acting like our representatives. It's either that or this country and their futures are very very much in doubt.

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America's Debt to Journalist Gary Webb
By Robert Parry

December 13, 2004

In 1996, journalist Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that forced a long-overdue investigation of a very dark chapter of recent U.S. foreign policy - the Reagan-Bush administration's protection of cocaine traffickers who operated under the cover of the Nicaraguan contra war in the 1980s.

For his brave reporting at the San Jose Mercury News, Webb paid a high price. He was attacked by journalistic colleagues at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the American Journalism Review and even the Nation magazine. Under this media pressure, his editor Jerry Ceppos sold out the story and demoted Webb, causing him to quit the Mercury News. Even Webb's marriage broke up.

On Friday, Dec. 10, Gary Webb, 49, was found dead of an apparent suicide, a gunshot wound to the head.

Whatever the details of Webb's death, American history owes him a huge debt. Though denigrated by much of the national news media, Webb's contra-cocaine series prompted internal investigations by the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department, probes that confirmed that scores of contra units and contra-connected individuals were implicated in the drug trade. The probes also showed that the Reagan-Bush administration frustrated investigations into those crimes for geopolitical reasons.

Failed Media

Unintentionally, Webb also exposed the cowardice and unprofessional behavior that had become the new trademarks of the major U.S. news media by the mid-1990s. The big news outlets were always hot on the trail of some titillating scandal - the O.J. Simpson case or the Monica Lewinsky scandal - but the major media could no longer grapple with serious crimes of state.

Even after the CIA's inspector general issued his findings in 1998, the major newspapers could not muster the talent or the courage to explain those extraordinary government admissions to the American people. Nor did the big newspapers apologize for their unfair treatment of Gary Webb. Foreshadowing the media incompetence that would fail to challenge George W. Bush's case for war with Iraq five years later, the major news organizations effectively hid the CIA's confession from the American people.

The New York Times and the Washington Post never got much past the CIA's "executive summary," which tried to put the best spin on Inspector General Frederick Hitz's findings. The Los Angeles Times never even wrote a story after the final volume of the CIA's report was published, though Webb's initial story had focused on contra-connected cocaine shipments to South-Central Los Angeles.

The Los Angeles Times' cover-up has now continued after Webb's death. In a harsh obituary about Webb, the Times reporter, who called to interview me, ignored my comments about the debt the nation owed Webb and the importance of the CIA's inspector general findings. Instead of using Webb's death as an opportunity to finally get the story straight, the Times acted as if there never had been an official investigation confirming many of Webb's allegations. [Los Angeles Times, Dec. 12, 2004.]

By maintaining the contra-cocaine cover-up - even after the CIA's inspector general had admitted the facts - the big newspapers seemed to have understood that they could avoid any consequences for their egregious behavior in the 1990s or for their negligence toward the contra-cocaine issue when it first surfaced in the 1980s. After all, the conservative news media - the chief competitor to the mainstream press - isn't going to demand a reexamination of the crimes of the Reagan-Bush years.

That means that only a few minor media outlets, like our own Consortiumnews.com, will go back over the facts now, just as only a few of us addressed the significance of the government admissions in the late 1990s. I compiled and explained the findings of the CIA/Justice investigations in my 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'

Contra-Cocaine Case

Lost History, which took its name from a series at this Web site, also describes how the contra-cocaine story first reached the public in a story that Brian Barger and I wrote for the Associated Press in December 1985. Though the big newspapers pooh-poohed our discovery, Sen. John Kerry followed up our story with his own groundbreaking investigation. For his efforts, Kerry also encountered media ridicule. Newsweek dubbed the Massachusetts senator a "randy conspiracy buff." [For details, see Consortiumnews.com's "Kerry's Contra-Cocaine Chapter."]

So when Gary Webb revived the contra-cocaine issue in August 1996 with a 20,000-word three-part series entitled "Dark Alliance," editors at major newspapers already had a powerful self-interest to slap down a story that they had disparaged for the past decade.

The challenge to their earlier judgments was doubly painful because the Mercury-News' sophisticated Web site ensured that Webb's series made a big splash on the Internet, which was just emerging as a threat to the traditional news media. Also, the African-American community was furious at the possibility that U.S. government policies had contributed to the crack-cocaine epidemic.

In other words, the mostly white, male editors at the major newspapers saw their preeminence in judging news challenged by an upstart regional newspaper, the Internet and common American citizens who also happened to be black. So, even as the CIA was prepared to conduct a relatively thorough and honest investigation, the major newspapers seemed more eager to protect their reputations and their turf.

Without doubt, Webb's series had its limitations. It primarily tracked one West Coast network of contra-cocaine traffickers from the early-to-mid 1980s. Webb connected that cocaine to an early "crack" production network that supplied Los Angeles street gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, leading to Webb's conclusion that contra cocaine fueled the early crack epidemic that devastated Los Angeles and other U.S. cities.

Counterattack

When black leaders began demanding a full investigation of these charges, the Washington media joined the political Establishment in circling the wagons. It fell to Rev. Sun Myung Moon's right-wing Washington Times to begin the counterattack against Webb's series. The Washington Times turned to some former CIA officials, who participated in the contra war, to refute the drug charges.

But - in a pattern that would repeat itself on other issues in the following years - the Washington Post and other mainstream newspapers quickly lined up behind the conservative news media. On Oct. 4, 1996, the Washington Post published a front-page article knocking down Webb's story.

The Post's approach was twofold: first, it presented the contra-cocaine allegations as old news - "even CIA personnel testified to Congress they knew that those covert operations involved drug traffickers," the Post reported - and second, the Post minimized the importance of the one contra smuggling channel that Webb had highlighted - that it had not "played a major role in the emergence of crack." A Post side-bar story dismissed African-Americans as prone to "conspiracy fears."

Soon, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times joined in the piling on of Gary Webb. The big newspapers made much of the CIA's internal reviews in 1987 and 1988 that supposedly cleared the spy agency of a role in contra-cocaine smuggling.

But the CIA's decade-old cover-up began to crumble on Oct. 24, 1996, when CIA Inspector General Hitz conceded before the Senate Intelligence Committee that the first CIA probe had lasted only 12 days, the second only three days. He promised a more thorough review.

Mocking Webb

Meanwhile, however, Gary Webb became the target of outright media ridicule. Influential Post media critic Howard Kurtz mocked Webb for saying in a book proposal that he would explore the possibility that the contra war was primarily a business to its participants. "Oliver Stone, check your voice mail," Kurtz chortled. [Washington Post, Oct. 28, 1996]

Webb's suspicion was not unfounded, however. Indeed, White House aide Oliver North's emissary Rob Owen had made the same point a decade earlier, in a March 17, 1986, message about the contra leadership. "Few of the so-called leaders of the movement ... really care about the boys in the field," Owen wrote. "THIS WAR HAS BECOME A BUSINESS TO MANY OF THEM." [Capitalization in the original.]

Nevertheless, the pillorying of Gary Webb was on, in earnest. The ridicule also had a predictable effect on the executives of the Mercury-News. By early 1997, executive editor Jerry Ceppos was in retreat.

On May 11, 1997, Ceppos published a front-page column saying the series "fell short of my standards." He criticized the stories because they "strongly implied CIA knowledge" of contra connections to U.S. drug dealers who were manufacturing crack-cocaine. "We did not have proof that top CIA officials knew of the relationship."

The big newspapers celebrated Ceppos's retreat as vindication of their own dismissal of the contra-cocaine stories. Ceppos next pulled the plug on the Mercury-News' continuing contra-cocaine investigation and reassigned Webb to a small office in Cupertino, California, far from his family. Webb resigned the paper in disgrace.

For undercutting Webb and the other reporters working on the contra investigation, Ceppos was lauded by the American Journalism Review and was given the 1997 national "Ethics in Journalism Award" by the Society of Professional Journalists. While Ceppos won raves, Webb watched his career collapse and his marriage break up.

Probes Advance

Still, Gary Webb had set in motion internal government investigations that would bring to the surface long-hidden facts about how the Reagan-Bush administration had conducted the contra war. The CIA's defensive line against the contra-cocaine allegations began to break when the spy agency published Volume One of Hitz's findings on Jan. 29, 1998.

Despite a largely exculpatory press release, Hitz's Volume One admitted that not only were many of Webb's allegations true but that he actually understated the seriousness of the contra-drug crimes and the CIA's knowledge. Hitz acknowledged that cocaine smugglers played a significant early role in the Nicaraguan contra movement and that the CIA intervened to block an image-threatening 1984 federal investigation into a San Francisco-based drug ring with suspected ties to the contras. [For details, see Robert Parry's Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth']

On May 7, 1998, another disclosure from the government investigation shook the CIA's weakening defenses. Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat, introduced into the Congressional Record a Feb. 11, 1982, letter of understanding between the CIA and the Justice Department. The letter, which had been sought by CIA Director William Casey, freed the CIA from legal requirements that it must report drug smuggling by CIA assets, a provision that covered both the Nicaraguan contras and Afghan rebels who were fighting a Soviet-supported regime in Afghanistan.

Justice Report

Another crack in the defensive wall opened when the Justice Department released a report by its inspector general, Michael Bromwich. Given the hostile climate surrounding Webb's series, Bromwich's report opened with criticism of Webb. But, like the CIA's Volume One, the contents revealed new details about government wrongdoing.

According to evidence cited by the report, the Reagan-Bush administration knew almost from the outset of the contra war that cocaine traffickers permeated the paramilitary operation. The administration also did next to nothing to expose or stop the criminal activities. The report revealed example after example of leads not followed, corroborated witnesses disparaged, official law-enforcement investigations sabotaged, and even the CIA facilitating the work of drug traffickers.

The Bromwich report showed that the contras and their supporters ran several parallel drug-smuggling operations, not just the one at the center of Webb's series. The report also found that the CIA shared little of its information about contra drugs with law-enforcement agencies and on three occasions disrupted cocaine-trafficking investigations that threatened the contras.

Though depicting a more widespread contra-drug operation than Webb had understood, the Justice report also provided some important corroboration about a Nicaraguan drug smuggler, Norwin Meneses, who was a key figure in Webb's series. Bromwich cited U.S. government informants who supplied detailed information about Meneses's operation and his financial assistance to the contras.

For instance, Renato Pena, a money-and-drug courier for Meneses, said that in the early 1980s, the CIA allowed the contras to fly drugs into the United States, sell them and keep the proceeds. Pena, who also was the northern California representative for the CIA-backed FDN contra army, said the drug trafficking was forced on the contras by the inadequate levels of U.S. government assistance.

The Justice report also disclosed repeated examples of the CIA and U.S. embassies in Central America discouraging Drug Enforcement Administration investigations, including one into alleged contra-cocaine shipments moving through the airport in El Salvador. In an understated conclusion, Inspector General Bromwich said secrecy trumped all. "We have no doubt that the CIA and the U.S. Embassy were not anxious for the DEA to pursue its investigation at the airport," he wrote.

CIA's Volume Two

Despite the remarkable admissions in the body of these reports, the big newspapers showed no inclination to read beyond the press releases and executive summaries. By fall 1998, official Washington was obsessed with the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal, which made it easier to ignore even more stunning contra-cocaine disclosures in the CIA's Volume Two..

In Volume Two, published Oct. 8, 1998, CIA Inspector General Hitz identified more than 50 contras and contra-related entities implicated in the drug trade. He also detailed how the Reagan-Bush administration had protected these drug operations and frustrated federal investigations, which had threatened to expose the crimes in the mid-1980s. Hitz even published evidence that drug trafficking and money laundering tracked into Reagan's National Security Council where Oliver North oversaw the contra operations.

Hitz revealed, too, that the CIA placed an admitted drug money launderer in charge of the Southern Front contras in Costa Rica. Also, according to Hitz's evidence, the second-in-command of contra forces on the Northern Front in Honduras had escaped from a Colombian prison where he was serving time for drug trafficking

In Volume Two, the CIA's defense against Webb's series had shrunk to a tiny fig leaf: that the CIA did not conspire with the contras to raise money through cocaine trafficking. But Hitz made clear that the contra war took precedence over law enforcement and that the CIA withheld evidence of contra crimes from the Justice Department, the Congress and even the CIA's own analytical division.

Hitz found in CIA files evidence that the spy agency knew from the first days of the contra war that its new clients were involved in the cocaine trade. According to a September 1981 cable to CIA headquarters, one of the early contra groups, known as ADREN, had decided to use drug trafficking as a financing mechanism. Two ADREN members made the first delivery of drugs to Miami in July 1981, the CIA cable reported.

ADREN's leaders included Enrique Bermudez, who emerged as the top contra military commander in the 1980s. Webb's series had identified Bermudez as giving the green light to contra fundraising by drug trafficker Meneses. Hitz's report added that that the CIA had another Nicaraguan witness who implicated Bermudez in the drug trade in 1988.

Priorities

Besides tracing the evidence of contra-drug trafficking through the decade-long contra war, the inspector general interviewed senior CIA officers who acknowledged that they were aware of the contra-drug problem but didn't want its exposure to undermine the struggle to overthrow the leftist Sandinista government.

According to Hitz, the CIA had "one overriding priority: to oust the Sandinista government. ... [CIA officers] were determined that the various difficulties they encountered not be allowed to prevent effective implementation of the contra program." One CIA field officer explained, "The focus was to get the job done, get the support and win the war."

Hitz also recounted complaints from CIA analysts that CIA operations officers handling the contra war hid evidence of contra-drug trafficking even from the CIA's analytical division. Because of the withheld evidence, the CIA analysts incorrectly concluded in the mid-1980s that "only a handful of contras might have been involved in drug trafficking." That false assessment was passed on to Congress and the major news organizations - serving as an important basis for denouncing Gary Webb and his series in 1996.

Though Hitz's report was an extraordinary admission of institutional guilt by the CIA, it passed almost unnoticed by the big newspapers.

Two days after Hitz's report was posted at the CIA's Internet site, the New York Times did a brief article that continued to deride Webb's work, while acknowledging that the contra-drug problem may indeed have been worse than earlier understood. Several weeks later, the Washington Post weighed in with a similarly superficial article. The Los Angeles Times never published a story on the release of the CIA's Volume Two.

Consequences

To this day, no editor or reporter who missed the contra-drug story has been punished for his or her negligence. Indeed, many of them are now top executives at their news organizations. On the other hand, Gary Webb's career never recovered.

At Webb's death, however, it should be noted that his great gift to American history was that he - along with angry African-American citizens - forced the government to admit some of the worst crimes ever condoned by any American administration: the protection of drug smuggling into the United States as part of a covert war against a country, Nicaragua, that represented no real threat to Americans.

The truth was ugly. Certainly the major news organizations would have come under criticism themselves if they had done their job and laid out this troubling story to the American people. Conservative defenders of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush would have been sure to howl in protest.

But the real tragedy of Webb's historic gift - and of his life cut short - is that because of the major news media's callowness and cowardice, this dark chapter of the Reagan-Bush era remains largely unknown to the American people.


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Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His new book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'


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The Race That Wouldn't Die
Fighting for the nomination in such a way as to give the presidency to McCain is unforgivable.
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john mccain u s senator and gop presidential hopeful and candidate now trying to manipulate his nomination of gop is not trruely beyond laws. his chances of winning election of 2008 nov 4 is slim ? why his miscondicts in influence peddlinf have been reported in 47+ us d c jurisdioctions, U s court system is no dumb, it is possibly one of the best in world of democracies , although most democratic system are taintedbut billions of we the people are no dumb, no insane, we the people in usa are among the bests of people. law worls in most cases if not in all cases.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Mr Robinson the way that I see it, Obama got his wins in when he was riding high on the media-free wave. He's had a much tougher time of things now that the media is starting to actually ask him questions. I agree with you in theory that it's better for Obama to deal with spurious questions about aloofness or patriotism now than in the fall but I believe that vetting him now would risk his winning the nomination. There's no way Obama would survive the primary if the media should stop asking him about flag pins and Ayres and start asking him tougher questions such as: Obama campaigning for Odinga- the communist would-be president of Kenya whose first order of business once elected was to replace Kenya's democracy with Islamic law. BAIPA-the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that gave babies who had the misfortune of surviving late term abortions the right to medical treatment. While every single senator at the federal level agreed that a mother's right to choose ended with the birth of her baby, Obama fought the act for 3 years on the basis that it wasn't right to burden a mother with a baby she intended to abort in the first place. In plain words, Obama feels that a mother's burden is more important then a human life that's breathing outside the womb. A position most people in the United states don't agree with not to mention most countries around the world! Rezko- the millions of dollars Obama received in campaign contributions in exchange for city and state tax money and grants awarded to Rezko so he could build the slums that Obama's African Americans, the people fighting so hard to get him into the presidency, were made to live in. Even a question about the Byrne grant program could do Obama in. Obama's support for the Byrne anti-drug program, a corrupt and racist law enforcement program that targets African Americans and would no doubt bring up memories of Tulia Texas. If Obama were to be asked these questions he'll for sure lose the primary. If he's not asked these questions now you can bet the Republicans will ask him these in the GE and he'll lose the election for sure.
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the reverend dr kamal karna roy episode in u s politics is relevant on the issue . as reported by the reverend mr premansu roy das . rev makhan lal ghosh, thr rev atreyee sen roy, the rev ms paromita r baidya in conference with chief of campaign rev ms lisa n roy of new york : drkamal roy for cleanest us gop president 2008 if election be held without injunction from any u s district court in 47+ jurisdictions in usa where massive campaign corruption by 590+ defendants. dr roy wa petitioner for 490+ plaintiffs pro se, reported by premansu r das, the rev, & assistant of dr roy 4. 25. 2008:
interest is in promoting those issues that affect the majority of Americans. The rigid, right-wing Republicans have done a lot of damage to our country, and it's good to have support for getting rid of a greedy, special -interest administration.
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"do u know that rev dr kamal karna k roy shall remain a legal contender until nov 4 2008 of until later date of election as his right to contest electoral competition for gop u s contender was abused by the news media in us, human_god/s and human_animals' conceived god/s and u s a govt et al in violation of u s constitutional laws of equities in matter of election of u s president 2008.? pl do not laugh. next time your dream ould could be rejected fof indifferent system for interests of weaker people ? rights of freedom and liberty include right to be your leader of leader of nation viz u s a: o k ?" in Yahoo! Answers
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Posted by: gargi lahiri reforms agent democracy redevelopment in u s a et al | April 25, 2008 6:45 PM

Negroponte, Honduras and Iraq

by Peter Watt
July 09, 2004

Until the word became unfashionable in the West, Iraq would have been called a colony. The equivalent of the colonial office, the US embassy in Baghdad, will be the biggest embassy in the world and will be headed by John Negroponte, a veteran neo-conservative of the Reagan administration.

Negroponte's specialty, while ambassador to Honduras under Reagan (1981-1985) was to ensure that any resistance to US hegemony in Nicaragua would be utterly crushed. The ambassador carried out his duties with considerable success. A brief look at Negroponte's Central American period gives us a hint at what bodes for US-run Iraq.

When the Sandinista revolution took power in Nicaragua in 1979, alarm bells rang in Washington. Somoza, the brutal US-backed dictator, had been overthrown by revolutionary forces after 43 years in power. US