The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

283 to 2025 Obama 679 delgates remanin 404 elected 275 supers but not sure if gaum's new Obama supers cuanted yet

WOW! Some resume of acheivement..

I like Obama most, McCain second, Hillary third.

Barrack Obama will win. He'll be the first black president of the Untied States because:

1) The Iraq war was wrong, costly, and now unpopular. Voters will throw the hawks out.

2) The economy and consumer confidence are hurting. Voters will throw the bumbs out.

3) We have enough post-60's voters now where many more voters can see right through race-baiting commercials.

By the time of the nomination voters will see through the attacks against Obama calling him a Muslim AND a Christian extremist. They know the Reverand Wright attacks are pointless because Reverand Wright is not running for President. They know Obama is not nearly as easy to paint as out-of-touch as a multi-millaionaire or an old, lifelong Washington politician. However, Obama has not gone so negative in his commericals.

4) Huckabee... I mean, Hillary did not pick up the delegates she needed in Texas or Ohio or Pennsylvania (states that favored her) and even lost delegates in Texas. She lost a long time ago when her advisers led her to disaster on 10 contests in a row following Super Tuesday.

5) Obama continues to inspire new voters and those of us who are tired of 16 years of Bushes and Clintons. Let's give a candidate who has earned their way up a chance for a change.

Obama over McCain in November 2008

The most important criterion is that Obama was against the Hillary-Bush made war in Iraq from the beginning.

Hmmm, there are real crazy folks out there. The likes of Rafael... God bless your ignorance. When they made the rules (DNC), they were intending to protect the "Innevitable" candidate (Billary), who operates with party machinery. But, oops, the tide turned, and now its Obamas fault. Please, get a life. If Hillary was in the lead, you would not be complaining... oh sorry, didn't mean to expose your warped reasoning.

I would just like to point out that John Edwards consistently polled better against John McCain than either Clinton or Obama. He outpolled them as a general election candidate up till the day he dropped out of the race. Fat lot of good that did him.

"Electability" is not a criterion for electing a candidate - it's a strategy for losing. The Dems lost with the "electable" Kerry, because no one cared enough to vote for him. People should vote for the candidate they *support*. That's what makes the candidate "electable." The fact that the candidate wins elections is all that matters.

So far, the Democratic candidate who is most "electable" is Obama, because he's the candidate who has won twice as many elections, the most delegates, and more of the popular vote. That's the only poll that really matters. The rest is interesting for purposes of speculation, but it's ultimately meaningless.

Why punish Obama for the mistakes of the DNC, Michigan and Florida? There should be a re-vote if those states' primary votes are to count.

As an aside: we need a primary season of maybe four months, max. This long, painful process does no one any good.

It's funny how the DNC will not count the Florida or Michigan votes but, Puerto Rico will be counted and it is not a state! That is a low blow given by Howard Dean and the DNC to you people down in Florida and Michigan. Take that Florida and Michigan Puerto Rico is more important than you!!!!

Obama hell NO!!!!

I will never vote for Obama, even though I am a lifelong Democrat. He doesn't want my vote to count in the primary, then he's not going to get it in the general.

There was a time when black people couldn't vote. Ironically, now it is a black man telling us that our votes shouldn't count.

Florida and Michigan will never support Obama in the general election.

A vote for Obama in the primary is a vote for McCain.

let's get real. the only thing the press can focus on are words and thoughts the candidate has not said and in fact diagrees with. the american people are not that unfair, they will judge candidates on thier own merits. and people will realize we don't need 3 terms of W (mccain) or 4 consecutive presidents from 2 families.

It seems to me that this election 2008 is turning more like a deposition for a law suit for wrong doings by slave ownors of over 200 years ago. How can we voters settle this with our ballots? It is not for voters to decide this it's up to the courts That's why we have courts.Yes, blacks were wronged. the Government made amend but blacks are still not satisfied.Maybe there ought to be a class action suit AA virsus US gov
But i don't beleive the settlement should be "give me president" but rather an apology and an equal amount of cash to every AA. This is the fairest way of doing things. We should let the system work. We are mixing apples and oranges.
Obama is a candidate in all do respect and should be treated no better nor worse than any other candidate NOT as a "settlement". Once we accept this we will be back to not trashing each other anymore.I think we have done enough damage to rehash hatred that was part of the past. What we built together for years and years is priceless.
God bless us all

Dr. Wright says Goddams America. Christians are outraged. Let's use some logic. Christians believe God is personally responsible for events , or predestination. Therefor God has the ability to stop 911. Since God did not prevent 911 the intent of God would have to be:
1. God blesses America
2. God doesn't care one way or another
3. GodDamms America for disobeying his word.

Hmmmm...that should have been:

Your synapses are obviously not firing rhythmically. Ask your doctor for a CT and let us know the prognosis. Read that moron.

"If there's any Obama supporters out there who can read ?? ... Y O U L O S T !!!"

Your synapses are obviously not fire rhythmically. Ask your doctor for a CT and let us know the prognosis. Read that moron.

Facts
1.Clinton cannot win enough delegates to pass Obama.

2.McCain cannot beat any Democrat, as Democrats are turning out 3 to 1 over GOP voters.

3.The racist Democrat vote accounts for less than 20% mainly in the south, even if applied equally among all states, less than 6% of racially challenged are expected to switch to McCain.

4. If the election were held today McCain could carry possibly 12 states mostly rural in the South and possibly Ohio and Florida being the only large delegate counts.

Bush,Clinton,Bush,Clinton

Nope. There is something fundamentally un-American about giving the executive of this country to two families for 3 decades.

Enough.... It is time for a change.

Hope! Change! Waffles!

Hope! Change! Waffles!

OBAMA = Beautiful Icing on a Rotten Cake

Man, all the comments, but no perspective. Money is Power...Example # 1:
1) Dems can't win without Obama (black vote, new young voters and fund raising machine), so he is on the ticket..guaranteed.
2) If McCain wins...long shot, he'll serve 4 and then Romney steps in, with his i-banker bros!
And to all my white "blue collar" brothers (I am half black, for reference), vote your pocket book this time and not your fears, and vote for OBAMA. He'll put more money in your pockets, and have Osama Bin Ladens head on a platter by the end of his first term...Keep it t'real!!!

If there's any Obama supporters out there who can read ?? ... Y O U L O S T !!!

Obams rise to fame has ended. His phoniness shows stronger every day. All that's left for him is a fast slide downhill. Don't waste your vote on this guy, smart people support Hillary. She's our next President.

Obama can weather this storm. Full disclosure: I'm supporting Obama. I think that this is a trying moment for his candidacy, but if the media acts rationale and doesn't talk about Rev. Wright every two seconds, Barack will win in November. Right now, Hillary's support is strong. They're not going to beat Obama by any metric, but it is only one month until the last elections in Montana and South Dakota. Four more weeks is tolerable. This country is just so soft. Everyone is indignant right now but they don't know whom to be indignant with. Once the Democrats rally, we will win. Just don't be a wimp, shout as loud as the right. It's the only way to do it, by way of force. Republicans know that, but I do too, and I know something else: John McCain knows very little about the economy, he'll tell you the same. His latest health care plan is worse than President Bush's. I suspect that the American public doesn't realize President Bush is smarter than John McCain. Sure, John McCain is a nice guy, I'd love to watch a baseball game with him, and share some beers, but this is too important. Obama continues to impress me. I think his opposition to the gas tax suspension is absolutely correct. It would hurt the highway trust fund, which fuels construction jobs. Thousands of jobs would be lost. This is just a Grover Norquist/Charlie Black penned proposal to help the oil companies. It would save the average driver thirty bucks over some three month period. By driving the demand for oil up during the summer --when most driving occurs and when prices for oil rise due to the already expected demand-- John McCain's gas tax suspension would allow the oil companies to charge even more usuriously. This plan helps Exxon-Mobil, not me or you. Not to mention, Pelosi and Reid will never even allow a vote and that, and thank God. McCain's admitted inability to grasp complicated issues like "the economy" are telling not at all helpful to me, the citizen. By discrediting himself, I'm forced to question why he's letting economic conservatives to the right of Geore W. Bush pen his position papers. Therefore, John McCain would be dramatically worse than Bush, yes. I'm not afraid to say it. If you're a Democrat, start supporting Obama. Sorry, your candidate lost. I'm sorry, I supported Edwards first. But it's time to be intelligent and vote for Obama. Get the vote out and remember to yell louder than Republicans.

New York City Secession 2010

To STP,

I agree with you Rev Wright is excercising his 1st amendment rights to free speech.
I hope the idiot keeps talking!

What is all the BS regarding Rev Wright's ranting, he's exercising his 1st Amendment Right! WTF! the Bill of Rights is a pretty cool document! Bush and his Cabinet of Skunks
are loving all of this election year rhetoric! the spotlights are off! where is Cheney?

Nothing really has changed in the delegate race: even if Clinton won the remaining races by landslides, she still would be behind Obama in delegate count. The fact that she is losing critical superdelegates (e.g, Richardson, Andrew) to Obama is telling of where they will tilt. Hillary's only shot is if Obama self-destructs. The Wright debacle shows both his resiliance and commitment to his message. The press needs a horserace and will continue this drama as long as they can.

Nothing has changed...Hillary is still a liar, Mccain is still Bush's third term and a warmonger...100 year war. The polls reflect a day in the life of the news cycle and nothing more. Does anyone remember that Hillary was the presumptive winner with a 20-30 point lead in all of the polls some 12 months ago...how did she allow a no named Obama to beat her...clearly she is not all that she is proported to be. Elected officials know who she is...know about her lies and scandals. Why would America putting their head in the sand on this. Why is Wright such a big issue. He is a black man with mad cow disease.

the thing i like sbout democrats is, they eat their young!

CLINTON IS AHEAD IN THE POLLS.

Obama would have lost months ago, had his true character been known at the outset. Too bad he got all that support he didn't deserve.

Will one of the Obamamaniacs, please, tell me one vote Obama made against the war. Just one---his votes match Clinton's perfectly---except the vote on Iran's Republican Army which Obama criticizes--but for which he voted --"not present."

Call Ms. Stewart his chief foreign policy advisor and ask her how fast Obama will end the war---

Oh--right, I forgot---we can't question the online left's messiah if we don't want to be called racist.

This group needs to grow up---he's just a politician--a failed politician--get over it.

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/billwright_1559.jpg

Best photo of Bill Clinton ever:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/photograph-of-bill-clinton-and-rev-wright-surfaces/

Typical White Person

Why do you consider Obama to be an empty suit?

Steve,

Here's something for you to ponder:

Name a single President in the last 50 who has talked to our enemies and NOT found it beneficial?

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For several reasons I believe that Barack Obama is the best candidate in the Presidential race:

 Senator Obama has been in the U.S. Senate since 2004,and prior to that he served a significant time in elected office at the state level. State politics counts as valuable political experience in my book. The essential goals are the same as in national politics - to put ideas into legislative form and persuade others to back them. During his time in the Illinois State Legislature he received great reviews from both Republican and Democrat colleagues for his abilities as someone who can get legislation written and passed that no one thought had a chance. Senator Obama was good at that in Illinois, and he has been showing himself to be good at it in Washington D.C. also.

 Barack Obama has been a constitutional law professor and the president of the highly respected Harvard Law Review. His constitutional expertise was on display during the Senate debates on the issue of detainees being held at Guantanimo Bay. It was during those debates that I first heard Senator Obama on C-SPAN, and I was impressed with the arguments he put forth on the floor of the Senate.

 Senator Obama also has hands-on experience as a community organizer in Chicago, working to improve neighborhoods and the lives of the people in those neighborhoods. I have always believed that hands-on experience of that type is invaluable and that it is lacking in many of our national politicians. What I believe Senator Obama's experience gives him, is a practical working knowledge of what people really need and what they will respond to. It is important to emphasize that his experience is direct with the people and their daily needs. It does not come through the lens of a narrow special interest group agenda .

 Senator Obama has worked on two of the most momentous issues of the day in the U.S. Senate - halting nuclear proliferation and congressional ethics reform. He was instrumental in writing the ethics reform bill and shepherding it through congress to see it passed into law. He has risen to a leadership role in the Senate faster than any other Senator in my memory.

 As everyone is finding out, Barack Obama has the raw talent and charisma to inspire millions of people like no one since John F. Kennedy. He also has the experience and vision to channel that energy into an effective force pushing a program of real substantive policies that will bring relief to middle class Americans, create a more equitable economy and increase opportunity for all.

 Barack Obama offers a vision of all Americans coming together behind the original values that this nation was founded on. He realizes and articulates as no other candidate in this race does, that the best way to counter the suffocating dominance of the powerful special interests that have so much say in our government right now is to awaken the American people and bring them together into their own holistic, broad-based interest group that draws its power not from money to buy exposure and thereby attract votes, but through the direct wielding of their votes.

 With so much hopelessness among average people in the nation who don't believe that the politicians listen to them, Barack Obama is essentially saying: I hear you - you want to get things done. If you elect me, I will conduct the good faith negotiations necessary to get programs passed. That is why he is attracting so many independents, regardless of how supposedly liberal his policy positions are. It is a kind of populism, but it is not an angry populism. It is a practical and healing populism.

 If he succeeds, his powerful coalition of average Americans will elect those that will turn away from the narrow and uncompromising positions of the special interest groups and instead listen first to the needs of the people and be willing to smash gridlock by engaging in the compromising and negotiating needed to pass meaningful legislation that will make everyone's lives better.

 Barack Obama is not only inspirational, intelligent, and experienced, but he is cool-headed, thoughtful, and possesses great judgment and foresight. I believe if given the chance he can change the landscape of American politics like Reagan did in the eighties. We've been stuck in that landscape for close to 30 years now. I'm tired of the red state - blue state mindset. Hillary Clinton won't take us out of that mindset. All she will be able to do will be to operate within it, and no long term change will result. She and Bill Clinton are only capable of navigating in this red state - blue state environment because they don't envision anything different. That is obvious through their campaign messages and techniques. If enough of us grasp Barack Obama's vision and entrust him with our votes, he will be able to alter the entire landscape of American politics once again, this time toward a more long standing progressive agenda that emphasizes creation of opportunities for all, listening to the people and their needs instead of the special interests and their narrow positions that they have no interest in compromising on. All it takes is for enough Americans to believe it is possible and it will happen.

My head can provide all these arguments in support of Barack Obama for President of the United States of America, but I would be denying something deeper and truer if I didn't end with what my heart tells me. To do that I have to bring up a piece of American lore that I have thought about from time to time, and that I believe is relevant today.

Long ago, at one of the most desperate times in our nation's history, Abraham Lincoln gave his first inaugural address to the nation. The address was an appeal to keep the Union intact. Lincoln wanted to bring the nation together, but he was unsuccessful at doing that. Within weeks of the speech, Fort Sumter, South Carolina was under siege and the civil war began. Still, the summation of Lincoln's speech has become one of the famous phrases in American history:

"The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

That phase captures the connections between people, families and ancestors, and the history of a nation. It appeals to patriotism, family pride, home, and the stake all have in the Union. It says all that, and goes still further. It expresses those things in a spiritual sense, as if the battlefields, patriot graves, and hearthstones all across our land create a shared consciousness embedded in the psyche of all Americans, as if those mystic chords of memory resonate within and around all of us through our awareness of the ideas our nation is based on, and the laws and customs that stem from those ideas. Our perceptions of what the world should be like are strongly linked to those ideas juxtaposed with what we see all around us every day. Our actions as a people flow from those perceptions. Over the last quarter century, and especially over the last seven years, our perceptions have become jaded and it seems to many Americans that those mystic chords of memory have grown dim. The leaders of our nation have failed to maintain our connection to the great ideas that America was founded on, and we the people have neglected to hold them accountable. We now see a leader rising up that promises to change all that. I believe his experience shows that he can deliver on that promise. If we choose to follow the better angels of our nature, we will entrust him with this charge and through him we will once again touch those mystic chords of memory and swell the chorus of our great Union for all the world to hear.

It is a very rare opportunity that America has at this moment. When a leader arises with the ability to cut through all the distractions of our world to play those mystic chords of memory so that not just one or a few people, but millions of Americans can hear - when that opportunity presents itself, I believe we must reach for it with all our strength.

Don't let that opportunity pass, please put your support behind Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

someone posted: "There are a lot of centrist Democrats like myself who will become independents if Obama is the nominee."

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Amen to that. If the Dems are stupid and cowardly enough to go with the empty suit...well...I think it would be the ideal time for Hillary to run as an Independent or start a 3rd party!

Would be a fascinating 3 way race.

Here's the issue for us all to ponder.

What if Obama visits the leaders of Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Cuba, and they treat him nicely and speak nice words, and he believes them and welcomes them into his circle of friends. When they perform another atrocity, will he first explain it away as the act of a dotty old uncle, or will he denounce them as offensive and unacceptable? Based on their track record, shouldn't he avoid them in the first place?

There are a lot of centrist Democrats like myself who will become independents if Obama is the nominee. I simply do not want to be a member of a party that would nominate such an unqualified candidate.
BTW, for every "youth" or black the democrats hypothetically would lose if Hillary is the nominee there are more women and blue collar votes that will be lost if Obama is the nominee.

Hillary is a fighter; with all of the economic and environmental problems facing us and the war in Iraq, she is what we need in a president right now.

Sen. Obama argues that he didn't campaign in Florida so the Florida vote shouldn't count. However articles in the Boston Globe, HeraldTribune and other sites, state that Obama did in fact campaign in Florida. One headline states "Obama airs "ads" on Cable stations in Florida." Even with the Florida cable ads, Obama still lost. There are no such articles about Sen. Clinton campaigning in Florida, so how can Sen. Obama argue against counting Florida?
See: From heraldtribune.com Obama's Florida ads bust pledgehttp://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/obama_airs_nati.html

"...the power of ideas.
'You are what you eat', the nutritionists endlessly hector fast-food addicts, and you are also what ideas you have consumed."

-- Dean Koontz
"The Darkest Evening of the Year

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OBAMA = CAN AMERICA TAKE SUCH A RISK?

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OBAMA = DIVISION, NOT HAPPY TIMES

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OBAMA = CHAOS, NOT CHANGE

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OBAMA = HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE

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OBAMA = ATHEISM

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OBAMA = LAWLESSNESS

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OBAMA = DIVISION

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"Obama is a girly man."

Spoken like a true paragon of intellect.

I pray that Xbox 360 comes out with a "doodles for dumbies" game. Maybe then, some of these people will forget all about the election.

n"Look at the trends in RCP's poll averages, they are quite striking."

They are skewed by what statisticians call an "outlier." You remove the highest and lowest stat the you get about an 8 point Obama lead in NC. It gives you a better picture of the numbers. That's why they use it.

Clinton is tracking upwards, but some of these stats are before Obama cut ties with the Nutty Pastor. I'd wait until the next round of polls by the major four pollsters if I were you.

Sheesh...it seems that because one poll gave Clinton a 2 point lead, Clintonites are pissing their pants in glee over it. It's rather funny really.

Wright on the Bill Moyers show gave a well-reasoned presentation of a position, which focused on all of the bad, and none of the good in American race relations. Although I, a white thought it hypercritical it was not divisive or destructive. That was the intellectual Wright, that is the man Obama would have been attracted to. On Monday we saw the angry scorned man who behaved like a politician not a pastor and that was a man who I thought was a racist. Wright may have hid the racist part of himself from Obama in his personal dealings. Obama may have been exposed to some of his racist ideas on the pulpit but he may never have heard the worst of Wright that the public got in snippets. Because Obama was personally fond of the man, Mr Wright, he was tolerant of Rev Wright even though he disagreed with him.

Obama has been very forthright in his book and in his speeches. He has made transparency an issue in a world where transparency puts him at a tactical disadvantage to his disingenuous opponent. Honesty is a centerpiece of his political philosophy.

Clearly Obama's life work and political theory is predicated on a foundation that is not sympathetic to Wright's extremist viewpoint. He has never done anything to lend support to Wright's extremist views. Obama is a master of dealing constructively with diverse viewpoints. That is what he did with Wright, tolerated a part of the man with which he disagreed because he liked another part. All that proves is that Obama is humane. That says nothing about his judgment since he never supported Wright in a political venue. That is a quality that would help him not hurt him as president. Now that the senator has totally dissociated himself from Wright and denounced him as well, why is there still a drumbeat to imply that Obama would not be a good president because of Wright?

Wright, as Mike Huckabee has stated, was trying to prove that his perverted view of America and not Obama's hopeful message is the correct one. Why is there no drumbeat criticizing McCain for his relationship with Rev Hagee. McCain accepts Hagee; Obama rejects Wright. By continuing to harp on this Wright matter after Obama cleared up the ambiguity about his relationship with the man, the reporting is beginning to seem biased. Please don't prove Wright to be correct about our current political scene.

Obama is a girly man. He makes Kerry look tough. He's the weakest candidate my party has ever considered. Wright came after Obama because he couldn't stand to watch this spineless guy deny him like Judas and lie and act like he didn't know what Wright was all about. Obama got called out. I respect Wright for that. Obama needs to check between his legs to make sure he still has balls, because he sure doesn't act like he has any.

Real men couldn't tell you the price of Arugula at Whole Foods.

Hillary '08 if you care about this country, don't want an anti-american president and do want someone with a backbone as president instead!!!

The Democratic party has gone looney-left, so between that factor plus the allegiance of African-Americans to Obama (more understandable) it looks like it would take even bigger news than we have already seen to turn things around for Hillary Clinton.

And it would take an electoral miracle for Obama to beat McCain in November. We haven't even seen the first move by the Republican attack machine. This is like June 5, 1944, and the Allied ships are just over the horizon, and the landing forces of the Republicans are coming. Obama knows they are coming, but there's nothing much he can do about it. He's like a deer in the headlights just trying to deal with Hillary Clinton. Obama will be road-kill for McCain.

Obama is unelectable in November. It might not be what black america wants to hear, but it's true, and for the good of the party, he needs to step aside. He did this to himself..no-one else. He supported Wright and his racist, anti-american views and those of his church for 20 years. Yes, it's called support when you attend for 20 years, give thousands of dollars, defend the man publicly, and portray him prior to a month ago as your spiritual mentor. Lack of judgment, lack of character. Say no to Obama.

Listen to the North Carolinians (from McClatchey) - the RCP poll "trends" are plateauing - the natural trough resulting from this whole episode, ending with the cutting of the cord this week, may be coming to an end:

J. Haydel, a 39-year old Apex quality insurance engineer, thinks the Wright affair is the creation of the news media.

"I don't know that it's had a big impact," said Haydel, an Obama supporter. "I didn't see it as big thing to begin with."

Judy Walters, a 53-year-old teacher from Sanford who's supporting Clinton, said Obama should not be penalized for the remarks of his minister.

"As a Christian you need to be accountable for yourself," Walters said. "People should not hold it against Obama because of what his preacher says."

I've been having a lot of fun throwing some sass around in support of Barack Obama. Now I have to eat dinner and do something productive.

I think the lesson from this blog is that people are very reactive and scared. I want to encourage everyone to believe in the best for everyone and think of something you can do or say to inspire a better future.

If you hear negative messaging, as a PR professional, I can tell you, it doesn't mean there's any basis for it--most often than not, you can be assured there isn't.

The negative realities are in Washington-- the financial food chain of lobbying and corruption which tars the process and hurts Americans.

We have to vote our hopes and our values. If you believe that everyone gets a chance, that we are stronger together than apart, that our adversaries are not our fellow citizens, for the most part, but entrenched interests which are unresponsive and uninterested in change, then vote accordingly.

Bill Clinton once said we should vote our hopes and not our fears. I'd like to know what happened to that Bill Clinton, believe me.

Now we have a new opportunity with Obama. Let's not blow it. We're on the fast track to oblivion as a nation, and it matters, psychologically, spiritually, economically, and politically.

We have to elect a real person for this job. One of us, with hopes and flaws and dreams and untapped ability.

Once that was Bill Clinton. Today that's Barack Obama.

The Dem party is in deep trouble, they have to nominate a fatally-flawed candidate, Obama, or they will lose the young and possibly even the black vote for perhaps a generation.

well, then, they better (quickly) nominate Obama

Despite their sappy public reasons, its obvious that Andrew and other Dem SD's are willing to sacrifice the 2008 election and move to Obama out of fear of alienating the black Dem base and the youth vote for perhaps a generation. They hope to shut down the Dem nomination process ASAP, minimize the collateral damage, and come back with a more viable candidate in 2012. This election is essentially over.

keep saying it, and maybe you'll believe it.

Obama will wipe McCain off the map

(and that's exactly what you're afraid of)

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OBAMA'S ALREADY WON !

Scream, throw a tantrum, blog all night,
But the facts are: that Obama has already won.

Don't believe me?
...go on the Delegate Calculator, and punch in the numbers

Let Hillary win by 70%, in EVERY remaining primary (even North Carolina....and that ain't going to happen..she's never won by 70%)

But do it anyway....let her win EVERY PRIMARY that remains in this race

(and there's no way she's going to win by 70%, and no way she's going to win North Carolina)

....but do it anyway.....just for fun...and what do you find out?

OBAMA IS STILL AHEAD!

Do it ! ....or just keep throwing a tantrum

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Despite their sappy public reasons, its obvious that Andrew and other Dem SD's are willing to sacrifice the 2008 election and move to Obama out of fear of alienating the black Dem base and the youth vote for perhaps a generation. They hope to shut down the Dem nomination process ASAP, minimize the collateral damage, and come back with a more viable candidate in 2012. This election is essentially over.

Media terrorism against a potential US President.

The bin ladens in the media are exactly the same with the one in Afghanistan, in the sense that they hate America.

Clinton by 8% in Indiana and a narrow upset of 1-2% by Clinton in North Carolina... Look at the trends in RCP's poll averages, they are quite striking. The Dem party is in deep trouble, they have to nominate a fatally-flawed candidate, Obama, or they will lose the young and possibly even the black vote for perhaps a generation.

Man ain't it the truth. Thanks, Fides.

ITS THE POLLS STUPID
Race baiting in Pennsylvania, then just plain open season on Obama. Good work Post. I like how the writers now use the "polls say" to wash their hands of their bias - as if the polls are so fast they can catch something in 24 hours. WRONG. Now the media is caught lying too.

Where is the media when Hillary gets on National TV and threatens to obliterate a whole country? No one raises an eyebrow in the U.S. while the rest of the world is up in arms about it. This kind of media coverage is so biased one has to wonder what kind of "media coverage" hillary is buying.

Re. JakeD:

"Did you not know that Obama's middle name was HUSSEIN?"

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NOOOO - YOU'RE KIDDING! - and my name is think !!!!!HUSSEIN!!!!! results - with the exclamation points and all in caps - right from my birth certificate.

Now I can't even vote for myself - and you won't vote for me ever never! Bummer

Meanwhile...

DNC Chairman Joe Andrew and Clinton appointee switching his vote --> Plus-One superdelegate vote for Obama, Minus-One for Hillary

Announcing it in his hometown of Indianapolis --> Possibly many votes in the primary next Tuesday

Doing it in spite (and perhaps because) of the clueless MSM/Fox/Hannity/O'Reilly/Hillary Wright-mania AttackFest --> PRICELESS

Hear that hissing sound? That's the Hillary 'blip' deflating........

from the Nation, this says it all...

Betsy Reed: How Hillary Clinton's campaign played the race card--and drove a wedge into the feminist movement.

"what is most troubling--and what has the most serious implications for the feminist movement--is that the Clinton campaign has used her rival's race against him. In the name of demonstrating her superior "electability," she and her surrogates have invoked the racist and sexist playbook of the right--in which swaggering macho cowboys are entrusted to defend the country--seeking to define Obama as too black, too foreign, too different to be President at a moment of high anxiety about national security. .. There were references by Clinton campaign officials to Obama's admission of past drug use; the tit-for-tat over Clinton's tone-deaf but historically accurate statement that Martin Luther King needed Lyndon Johnson for his civil rights dreams to be realized; and insinuations that Obama is a token, unqualified, overreaching--that he's all pretty words, "fairy tales"
More than any single thing, that moment with Bill Clinton in South Carolina represents the rupture that was coming,...when the former President compared Obama's landslide win, in which he received a major boost from African-American voters, to Jesse Jackson's victories there in 1984 and 1988. Because the former President offered the comparison unprompted, in response to a question that had nothing to do with Jackson or race, the statement was widely read as chalking up Obama's win to his blackness alone and thus attempting to marginalize him as a doomed minority candidate with limited appeal. Obama was now "the black candidate," in the words of one Clinton strategist quoted by the AP.
...The toxicity is further heightened in this post-9/11 atmosphere, in which an image of Obama in Somali dress is understood as a slur and e-mails claiming that he is a "secret Muslim" schooled in a madrassa spread virally, along with rumors that he took the oath of office on a Koran. The madrassa and Koran canards have been thoroughly debunked, but still they persist--and few have been willing to stand up and say, So what if he was a Muslim? For her part, Clinton, asked on 60 Minutes whether Obama was a Muslim, said, "There is nothing to base that on, as far as I know."
A mere three days after Obama spoke [a bout Wright], Bill Clinton made this statement in North Carolina about a potential Clinton-McCain general election matchup: "I think it'd be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics." Whether or not this statement constituted McCarthyism, as one Obama surrogate alleged and as Clinton supporters vigorously denied, the timing of the remark made its meaning quite clear: controversies relating to Obama's race render him less fit than either Hillary or McCain to run for president as a patriotic American. A couple of weeks later, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen went so far as to call on Obama to make another speech, modeled after John F. Kennedy's declaration in 1960 that, despite his Catholicism, he would respect the separation of church and state as President--as though Obama's blackness were a sign of allegiance to some entity, like the Vatican, other than the United States of America.
In the Democratic debates, enabled by the moderators, Hillary Clinton has increasingly deployed issues of race and patriotism as a wedge strategy against her opponent. First, in the debate in Cleveland on February 26, she pressed Obama not only to denounce but to reject Louis Farrakhan--to whom he was spuriously linked through Reverend Wright, who had taken a trip with the black nationalist leader in the 1980s. In style as well as content, that attack was a harbinger of things to come. In the most recent debate, ABC's George Stephanopolous and Charles Gibson peppered Obama with questions such as, "Do you believe [Wright] is as patriotic as you are?" and, regarding former Weatherman Bill Ayers, a Chicago neighbor and Obama supporter, "Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?" Time after time, Clinton picked up the line and ran with it. "You know, these are problems, and they raise questions in people's minds. And so this is a legitimate area...for people to be exploring and trying to find answers," she said, seeming to abandon her argument that these issues are fair game now only because they will be raised by Republicans later and thus are relevant to an evaluation of Obama's electability.
The Wright, Farrakhan and Ayers controversies have been fueled by a craven media, and ABC's performance in the debate has rightly been condemned. But given that Clinton is the one who is running for President and who purports to represent liberal ideals, her complicity in such attempts to establish guilt by association is far more troubling. While she has dealt gingerly with the matter of Wright in the wake of his recent appearance at the National Press Club--accusing Republicans of politicizing the issue--she also took pains to remind reporters that she "would not have stayed in that church under those circumstances."
It's disappointing, to say the least, to see the first viable female contender for the presidency participate in attacks on her black opponent's patriotism, which exploit an anxious climate around national security that gives white men an edge both over women and people of color--who tend to be viewed, respectively, as weak and potentially traitorous. Says Paula Giddings, "This idea of nationalism and patriotism pulling at everyone has demanded hypermasculine men, more like McCain than the feline Obama, and demanded women whose role is to be maternal more than anything else."

Hey Biff,

Quite a load of angry there you dumped on us. Thanks!

"Clinton can't have it both ways. She can't claim both a) Michigan is legitimate because "Uncommitted" was a choice, and b) count none of the "uncommitted" votes as Obama votes in determining her "lead" in the combined primary counts."

Fairness in politics?

Damn, good thing I was having a soda with my popcorn or else I'd be looking for a new monitor at Fry's tonight.

This process isn't about fairness, it's about convincing people that the sky is red and the ocean is yellow.

KPO'M:

I could care less what Clinton argues -- for the last time, I wouldn't vote for her in a million years -- the Credentials Committee will have to make a decision at the Convention one way or another if it isn't resolved before then.

Obama is a media-hyped, pathetic, morally-weak dolt who gets "hoodwinked and bamboozled" by a lunatic, hate-mongering ignorant racist. Its quite obvious after the Wright freak show that Obama simply does not have the mental capacity, moral compmass, experience, or sense of judgement to be POTUS.

JakeD,

You too seem to have anger management issues. Have a glass of chablis and some arugula. Seriously, I read the article and appreciate that you sent it to me.

It reads:

..."He declined to criticize Mr. Kerry or Mr. Edwards over the Iraq vote, but also said that he would not have voted as they had based on the information he had at the time." and..

''But, I'm not privy to the Senate intelligence reports,'' Mr. Obama said. ''What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.''

It's gentle language. Declining to criticize is not the same as defending. "From my vantage point the case was not made," seems clear enough, as does, "Would not have voted as they had."

So I don't see that your argument has any basis. Sorry. Is there another problem you have with his candidacy?

OK JakeD, Clinton can't have it both ways. She can't claim both a) Michigan is legitimate because "Uncommitted" was a choice, and b) count none of the "uncommitted" votes as Obama votes in determining her "lead" in the combined primary counts.

Wow...some people are really off their left nut here, aren't they? This is definitely a bowl-o'-popcorn thread. Quite the entertainment.

Anyhow...it is true that Hillary's chance of attaining the 2025 delegates needed are low...near impossibly low. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool, delusional, or on honest-to-God medical grade hallucinogens. The SDs would have to start falling her way like it was her birthday--they aren't, not yet at least. And in the past week, when Obama has been going though virtual hell the SDs have broken for him almost 2:1 (for some of you undereducated Clintonites, that means for every delegate siding for Clinton, two are siding with Obama). That could change, but if this week hasn't dogged Obama with the SDs, I don't know what will.

"My prediction:
Indiana: Clinton 54%, Obama 46%
N. Carolina: Clinton 51%, Obama 49%"

I'll give Clinton by 5 point in Indiana, but Obama will almost assuredly win NC: Obama by 7.
SurveyUSA is practically owned by the Clinton team; I generally toss them to the dogs. If you track their polls, they are always siding to the Clinton side of the equation. They are akin to the Mason/Dixon poll for the Republicans--always skewing in favor their preference. InsiderAdvantage is a junk poll, they are all over the place. I don't even know why RCP uses them. I'll wait until the big four comes out with their latest polls. But Obama certainly has taken a hit by the Nutty Pastor.

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W-A-S

T-H-A-T

S-H-O-R-T

E-N-O-U-G-H?

W-A-S T-H-A-T S-H-O-R-T E-N-O-U-G-H?

NObama is TOAST!!

Nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing NObama joining the ToastEDMasters club. His gutter rat groupie supporters, his pimping media pals, and most of all, the Super FrauD Delegates will somehow disenfranchaise FL MI, to get him the nomination, but then he will go on lose every state and teritory except Washington DC as he will be Atwatered, ROved, Helmsed, Willie Hortoned, Harold Forded, swift boated, Wrighted, Ayered, Bittergated, and more by the Rethugs.

SWEET.

To My Lovely Friend "Think Stupid":

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E0DA1430F931A15750C0A9619C8B63

In an interview with The New York Times in July 2004, he declined to criticize Mr. Kerry or Mr. Edwards over the Iraq vote: "But, I'm not privy to the Senate intelligence reports," Mr. Obama said. "What would I have done? I don't know."

Go ahead and explain it using shorter words. Thanks!

What people are missing is that if Obama is elected, there will be a waffle on every table in America!

Wah! Wah! Change! Hope! Waffles!

LOLOLOLOLOL

To My Lovely Friend JakeD:

You Write--

Think Stupid:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama defended Kerry's vote for the Iraq war but now slams Clinton's vote. I saw your screed the first time around.

I respond--

I am not aware of Barack Obama "defending" Kerry's vote. What you are saying is inconsistent. Why would he "defend" Kerry's vote, while voting otherwise? If you would like to cite a reference that would be helpful. To quote the well quoted Reverend Wright, "He's a politician and I'm a pastor." Politics is politics-if Barack indeed said something similar to what you describe, I am only concerned in the final tally, with how HE voted. That is the track record that counts. But please, provide the citation or a link. I would like to read it.

Barry Obama defended Kerry's vote for the Iraq war but now slams Clinton's vote. That's anything but CONSISTENT!

Think Stupid:

Do you understand now why your "plan to gamble" on the only man in the race who has been consistently correct, morally and otherwise on this important question is flawed? Or, do you need me to explain it using shorter words?

PUERTO RICO IS FOR HILARY CLINTON

Posted by: Rafael

You're the only dumb-ass one I know of. Why don't you got to school and learn to spell so that you understand the world around you, then be capable of making an informed decision. The word is 'definitely'

Actually Bill Clinton, it's Think, Stupid, not Think Stupid.

Of course, no reasonable person would count "Uncommitted" votes in Michigan all for Obama -- unless you really think there were ZERO uncommitted voters -- does anyone really need me to get a dictionary out for the word "Uncommitted"?

To Jacksmith:
Jack, considering that Clinton was ahead of Obama by up to 25 points a couple of weeks before the primary in Penn. and he closed the gap to 9 points in less than two weeks (even with the pounding from the media) does not reflect a large sum of people rallying to a candidacy (Clinton's) in fact, it constitutes a large amount of people fleeing her candidacy. So though the win was decisive, it was not anywhere near as decisive as it should have been. Remember, she was supposed to win by double-digits?, well, she didn't.

And all this elitism bull, I'll tell you right now that racism is the worst form of elitism, thinking that one is "better" than another race of people by nature. And that is what you get with Hillary and her republican friends, racism.

Obama turned down lucrative Wall street job offers after graduating from Harvard to become a community organizer for 10k a year, does that sound like elitism to you?

Think Stupid:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama defended Kerry's vote for the Iraq war but now slams Clinton's vote. I saw your screed the first time around.

LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal:

You mean "Obama won the caucus" right? The "estimate" at Real Clear Politics does indeed include caucus results: "*(Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine Have Not Released Popular Vote Totals. RealClearPolitics has estimated the popular vote totals for Senator Obama and Clinton in these four states. RCP uses the WA Caucus results from February 9 in this estimate because the Caucuses on February 9 were the "official" contest recognized by the DNC to determine delegates to the Democratic convention. The estimate from these four Caucus states where there are not official popular vote numbers increases Senator Obama's popular vote margin by 110,224. This number would be about 50,000 less if the Washington primary results from February 19th were used instead of the Washington Caucus results.)"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

I stated that wrong. Clinton lost the caucus states by 500,000 votes. JakeD is not counting them, nor is he counting the uncommitted votes in Michigan for Obama,for which they have been assigned.

Think stupid:

My mom also told me that only ignorant people refuse to see the facts!

So you must think stupid.

JakeD====you are conveniently forgetting to count all the states' votes where there were caucuses. Those people got to vote , too. Clinton won those by over 500,000 votes. You Clinton people are excellent at lying and twisting facts.

Bill Clinton

I assure you I am not stupid. As my mother used to say, name calling is a sign weakness.

Your comments:

"If you think that Obama is not a Fairytale for blacks!

YOU MUST BE STUPID"

Posted by: Bill Clinton | May 1, 2008 8:11 PM

Speak for themselves.

Rafael:

Sorry for the confusion. "Him" in that post meant "Obama" before Hillary. While McCain is not anywhere close to my #1 choice, Obama is #300,000,000,000 and Hillary is #300,000,000,001.

It's funny how the DNC will not count the Florida or Michigan votes but, Puerto Rico will be counted and it is not a state! That is a low blow by Howard Dean and the DNC. Take that Florida and Michigan Puerto Rico is more important than you!!!!

Hillary's butt is waaaaaaaay too big for Lake Michigan--might swamp low lying island nations like Palau, and exacerbate the damaging effects of global warming.

Posted by: Think Stupid

Not if her mouth hits it first, she'll drain it!

"LOL, Think Stupid -- what is "consistent" about defending John Kerry's vote for the Iraq war in 2004, saying "I don't know" re: voting for it himself had he been in the U.S. Senate at the time, and then when he gets into the U.S. Senate, voting the SAME EXACT way on the Iraq war issues as Hillary Clinton?"

I don't think you understand me correctly. I am not defending John Kerry. I am supporting Barack Obama. I said nothing about John Kerry.

Here it is if you want to take another look:

BTW, JakeD,

I believe that there is a very strong school of thought among historians that Truman did not need to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in order to bring the Japanese campaign in World War Two to a conclusion. The fire bombing of Tokyo apparently inflicted damage enough to decimate the economy and the nation's ability to continue.

It is now a common debate in high schools and colleges. To the effect that I or we should know whether one or the other course of action would have been more "humane" or "reasonable," I would posit that we will never know, because it didn't happen the other way.

If you are asking me philosophically, I have a difficult time reconciling the introduction of nuclear weapons period. I think the government knew what we were getiing into, having been warned of the many adverse effects and considerations by the scientists of the day.

If you ask me tactically, I would probably put forth the argument that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was conceived as much as a warning to the Russians as an effort to quell the Japanese adversary. As such, the decision was one likely made out of weakness--after four years of all out war, I would contend that America was afraid of having to continue fighting against a new significant adversary of unknown power and large resource base.

Whether that was a fear based on fact, ignorance, politics or a calculation based on greed, I don't know. We do know what happened since. I think as people and as nations we tend to create our own realitites, so it seems plausible that a different course of action could have yielded different results. But again we will never know.

Likewise, did we need to invade Iraq for reasons humane or reasonable? Did we have the moral authority to do so? I say no. The American population was fed known lies to trump up a situation which provided some political relief to the Bush administration, and no doubt liberated billions in untraceable cash. Unfortunately compliant, docile and self interested politicians supported that disasterous course of action. It was a course of action that has wasted resources, threatened our basic rights and liberties at home, weakened America abroad and wrecked the economy. That McCain supports the Bush campaign in Iraq and that Hillary Clinton voted for it when it mattered and then tried to renegue is indeed unfortunate. There is no doubt in my mind that this is the central issue of the campaign. That Barack Obama did not vote for war funding does not qualify him in full to be President of the Uniter States, but he stands higher in my view that the others, because he did the right thing when it mattered, and that's what America needs right now after what I would suggest has been a criminally managed past eight years which threaten to reduce our country to third world status.

As with the question of Truman's legacy, we can't know for certain what the results would have been if we had taken a different course resulting from a). different intel and b). different values. But next time I plan to gamble on the only man in the race who has been consistently correct, morally and otherwise on this imortant question. That's Barack Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_H._Christ#Etymology

While many explanations have been proposed, some serious and many humorous, the most widely accepted derivation is from the divine monogram of Christian symbolism. The symbol, derived from the first three letters of the Greek name of Jesus (Ιησούς), is transliterated IHS, IHC, JHS or JHC. Since the transliteration IHS gave rise to the backronym Iesus Hominum Salvator (Latin for "Jesus savior of men"), it is plausible that JHC similarly led to Jesus H. Christ.

One factor in the transmutation of the monogram into the expression Jesus H. Christ may be that when the first syllable of Jesus Christ is strongly emphasised (as some speakers of English may do when cursing), the rhythm suggests a missing middle syllable between Jesus and Christ. The H may have been adopted from the monogram to fill this gap.

Other variations

The phrase Jesus H. Christ has been extended in many cases, both as a colloquialism, and in its use in television and film. For example, in the film The Blues Brothers, the character Jake exclaims, "Yes! Yes! Jesus H. tap-dancing Christ, I have seen the light!" in a moment of fervor. In Steven Spielberg's classic film Jaws, war veteran turned fisherman Quint frequently utters the phrase during the movie, usually in moments of frustration.

Another usage of the term implies that the H is an abbreviation for the name Harold, a play on words from the Lord's Prayer (the "Our Father") as if Harold were the name of Jesus' Father: "Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name ..."; thus, Harold is taken to be Jesus' middle name. Some think it stands for "Holy", but I've never heard of it as "Himself".

"Jesus H. Christ on a raft" can sometimes be heard from people from Newfoundland and other Atlantic provinces of Canada. This may be a reference to Christ's walk on water. Or perhaps this variant combines the exclamation with the (archaic) cafe slang term "Adam and Eve on a raft", which described two boiled eggs served on toast.

The fact is is it is a delegate rac, and by the numbers and the word on the street Clinton has already lost. Wait till it's Barack against McCain-McCain will then have HIS turn in the barrel. I really think the repubs have over-played their hand with this Wright nonsense. Remember, Wright was drawn out into the national scene.

And please stop saying "if the Florida and Mich votes counted" yeah, and if monkeys flew out of my a*s.

Who is him? Obama or McCain?

Wasn't Edwards still in the race when Michigan voted?

Rafael:

I'd rather have him than her.

Andrew:

I hope so.

A Tipping Point for Barack Obama - or Just a Dip?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2322

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Bigotry is so old fashioned. The H stands for "Himself" as previously mentioned.

LOL, Think Stupid -- what is "consistent" about defending John Kerry's vote for the Iraq war in 2004, saying "I don't know" re: voting for it himself had he been in the U.S. Senate at the time, and then when he gets into the U.S. Senate, voting the SAME EXACT way on the Iraq war issues as Hillary Clinton?!

It is baldly obvious when viewing Obama's ties to the church that Obama joined the Trinity church mainly for non-religious reasons, even if he was a religious person. It is from my understanding and what I've researched, that this is the only way for a black man in Chicago to break into politics. So in that respect I cannot condone Barack for what Wright does, he simply had to stick with Trinity to get to the place he needed to be so he could pursue his own objective. Which is to bring back the former prestige of the United States. There was once a time when the rest of the world looked up to the United States with admiration. Now we are looked upon with prejudice and pity.

If you think that Obama is not a Fairytale for blacks!

YOU MUST BE STUPID

What does the 'H' stand for in Jesus H Christ?

Just curious...

"Hussein"

OBAMA IS A FAIRYTALE FOR BLACKS

These comments don't get any smarter as the afternoon wears on, do they. I'm white. My reasons for voting for Obama are detailed above in my comments on Truman, The Bomb, Iraq, and Obama's candidacy. Posted by: Think Stupid | May 1, 2008 7:51 PM

It's no fairy tale brotha...

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

PUERTO RICO IS FOR HILARY CLINTON

Oh come on Jon. You really think so? He's a lot smarter than that.
That's just tired old culture war propaganda.

OBAMA IS A FAIRYTALE FOR BLACKS

"I am so sick of David Axelrod and his thugs man manipulating the press, and I'm sick of Axelrod's efforts to tarnish Bill Clinton's legacy."
---Posted by: Tyrone Jenkins | May 1, 2008 4:20 PM

Guffaw!
Here's more proof of the Clinton campaign's Rovian tactics, as if anyone needed any more....

Sidney Blumenthal Uses Former Right-Wing Foes To Attack Obama
"...acting as a senior campaign advisor to Senator Clinton, Blumenthal is exploiting that same right-wing network to attack and discredit Barack Obama. And he's not hesitating to use the same sort of guilt-by-association tactics that have been the hallmark of the political right dating back to the McCarthy era."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/sidney-blumenthal-uses-fo_b_99695.html

"Clinton advisers have not held a bash-Obama conference call for a week now -- after months when they held near-daily calls with reporters to pounce on Mr. Obama about everything, including Mr. Wright."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/us/politics/01clinton.html?pagewanted=2

People keep confusing Wright's racist comments with Obama's personal beliefs. I'm someone who will vote for McCain in the fall, but I'll defend Obama's beliefs against the idea that he shares Wright's hateful views of our country. I believe Obama does not share Wright's views.

That said, I do believe Obama showed a complete lack of judgment by selecting such a hateful bigot for a pastor when there are so many churches in America to choose from, and he stayed, somehow ignorant of Wright's true beliefs, for 20 years. For someone whom claims better judgment than McCain and Clinton, he didn't prove it here.

Additionally, Obama's painfully sloth-like reaction to Wright's hateful spin clearly shows his green-ness in politics. He's a raw recruit compared to McCain and Clinton, whom are, like them or not, veteran politicians. Obama is a quick learner, but slow to commence needed action, and while I think he's learning his lessons from the succession of blows wounding his campaign, too many more such lessons may sink his ship. In summary, he's learning, but he's taking serious damage at the same time, and there's no telling how much more punishment the vessel can take. The danger for Obama is that by the time he learns how to fight he'll be the captain of an irreversably damaged ship, and his campaign will sink beneath the unforgiving political waves.

Unless Clinton tells more lies about Bosnia over the weekend, I think the rougly 8-10% of undecided voters in N. Carolina and Indiana will surprise everyone and hand Obama two more defeats in light if the huge hole blown in the hull of his campaign vessel by that pirate Jeremiah Wright.

My prediction:

Indiana: Clinton 54%, Obama 46%

N. Carolina: Clinton 51%, Obama 49%

That was a brilliant summation of the obvious. You just left out the part about the math. Hillary might steal it but she can't win enough pledged delegates to seal the deal. The last I looked we keep score by delegates and even the supers are breaking Baracks way over 2:1 despite all the hand wringing.

Obama is very out of touch with working class caucasians. They don't 'cling' to religion...They go to church. They don't 'cling' to guns, they enjoy hunting.

They also don't 'cling' to fishing poles...they enjoy fishing. (Lol)

Obama's lack of appreciation for working class caucasians shows very clearly that he is a divider, and not at all a uniter as he constantly claims.

Also we have seen his judgement is actually frequently poor and not at all superior. Thus, his whole reason for being President has been blown out of the water.

William Ayers, his buddy, tried to kill a judge's entire family...including his children!

William Ayers was not sorry for his acts of domestic terrorism, he said he wished he would have done more!!

tydicea, let's try to get you some wings.

Ha ha. LW. You're going to hell.

A lot of people keep asking these days, "Who would Jesus vote for?"

Vote for my brother and help turn Hillary Clinton into a pillar of salt.

I'm Jesus Obama and I approved this message.
Posted by: Jesus Obama

Had to post this again, lol!

Do Hillary and Posted by: | May 1, 2008 7:39 PM get it on?

Jake D

Listen I am not for Clinton but, I rather have her than him (Obama)! I think her game is to destry Obama and she will win in 2012 against McCain or if somehow she wins this primary then I think she will defenetly win in November of 2008.

LOL, Rafael -- hopefully not -- besides, he won't appoint anyone if Clinton wins the nomination ; )

BTW, JakeD,

I believe that there is a very strong school of thought among historians that Truman did not need to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in order to bring the Japanese campaign in World War Two to a conclusion. The fire bombing of Tokyo apparently inflicted damage enough to decimate the economy and the nation's ability to continue.

It is now a common debate in high schools and colleges. To the effect that I or we should know whether one or the other course of action would have been more "humane" or "reasonable," I would posit that we will never know, because it didn't happen the other way.

If you are asking me philosophically, I have a difficult time reconciling the introduction of nuclear weapons period. I think the government knew what we were getiing into, having been warned of the many adverse effects and considerations by the scientists of the day.

If you ask me tactically, I would probably put forth the argument that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was conceived as much as a warning to the Russians as an effort to quell the Japanese adversary. As such, the decision was one likely made out of weakness--after four years of all out war, I would contend that America was afraid of having to continue fighting against a new adversary of unknown power and significant resource base.

Whether that was a fear based on fact, ignorance, politics or a calculation based on greed, I don't know. We do know what happened since. I think as people and as nations we tent to create our own realitites, so it seems plausible that a different course of action could have yielded different results. But again we will never know.

Likewise, did we need to invade Iraq for reasons human or reasonable? Did we have the moral authority to do it? I say no. The american population was fed known lies to trump up a situation which provided some political relief and no doubt liberated billions in untraceable cash. Unfortunately compliant, docile and self interested politicians supported that disasterous course of action. It was a course of action that has wasted resources, threatened our basic rights at home, weakened America abroadd and wrecked the economy. That McCain supports the Bush campaign in Iraq and that Hillary Clinton voted for it when it mattered and then renegued is indeed unfortunate. There is no doubt in my mind that this is the central issue of the campaign. That Barcak Obama did not vote for war funding does not qualify him in full to be President of the Uniter States, but he stands higher in my view that the others, because he did the right thing when it mattered, and that's what America needs right now after what I would suggest has been a criminally managed past eight years that threaten to reduce our country to third world status.

As with the question of Truman's legacy, we can't knw for certain what the results would have been if we had taken a different course resulting from a). different intel and b). different values. But next time I plan to gamble on the only man in the race who has been consistently in the right, morally and otherwise o this imortant question. That's Barack Obama.

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!...

You said he wont appoint those so you mean worst people than that?

God help us!

At least Obama can work a coffee machine! Hey Goldilocks, the 3 bears want their red phone back. They said that when you were staying with them, you kept answering it and yelling something about snipers in Bosnia!

WPI:

You understand the facts. I agree he will never win a GE. That is the only fact in this blog!

What is "worst"?

JAKE D you mean it is worst ????

God help us!

Obama will never win in a GE. Everything about his campaign is being revealed as a fraud. If the DNC doesn't count fl and mi the democratic party is finished. Remember the new kind of politic's guy refuse's to agree to allow a fair re-do. So they should count as they voted. To bad he took his name off the mi ballot so he could pander to the ia voters. Wright was right he's a politican who say anything for vote's

All of them Jake D all of them!!!

Well Meaning and Kind American:

Shut up.

Newest Obama scandal that has been overshadowed by Wright, but is about to hit the fan!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killerspin27apr27,0,6789688.story

Rafael:

I doubt he would appoint any of those.

"Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it."

Jake D you saw Obamas Cabinet?

NO TO OBAMA 2008

Barack HUSSEIN Obama admitted to pot and cocaine use: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/02/AR2007010201359_pf.html

Obama will win the nomination but, he wont win in November. Why? Three words:

McGovern
Dukakis
Kerry

Obamas Cabinett:

Rev. Wright for VP
Henry Ayers for Homeland Security Director
Michell Obama for Race Adviser to Obama
George Soros As the Fed Chairman
Michael Moore for Secretary Of State
Ted Kennedy for Secratary of Justice
Al Franken IRS Director
John Kerry US Ambassador to Vietnam
Keith Olberman WH Press Secretary

OBAMA YOU LEFTIEST ELITE!!!

I like Hillary's big ole butt. More cushin' for the pushin'!!!!

Come on people you know I can't win I am black!

Think Stupid:

Shouldn't you be out today protesting somewhere for the Commies?

OBAMA CAN"T WIN HE IS BLACK!

Bye Bye Mr. American Lie!

A long, long time ago
I remember how Obama used to make me smile
And I knew if he had a chance
He would put me in a trance
Then maybe I'd be hopey for a while.

But March it made me shiver
each time the Reverend would deliver
Another stupid racist rant
I couldn't take one more chant
I can't remember if I cried
when I read about how he had lied
Something touched me deep inside
the day Obama was fried.

So bye bye Mr. American lie
Drove my Chevy to the levy
but my gas tank was dry and all the little kids we're drinking koolaid and rye
singing this will be the day that we die,
this will be the day that we die.

Did you Wright the book of Black
and do you have faith in my Barack
If Michele tells you so?
Now do you have faith in change and hope and can Barry save you from the Pope and
Can he teach you how to faint real slow?

Now I know that you're in love with him
But with Hillary his lead is slim,
She won't quit till he's through
And he don't know what to do! Oooh!

He was a poor lil' Kenyan with a lot of luck, a gangly wife and a pastor that sucks,
We all knew he was out of luck, the day Obama was fried!

I know JakeD, we've all had a line or two, haven't we. You seem a little prickly today.

Hillary's butt is waaaaaaaay too big for Lake Michigan--might swamp low lying island nations like Palau, and exacerbate the damaging effects of global warming.

Less Entitled Politicians for More Less Entitled Politicians:

Careful using his middle name or you will get called out as a "racist" -- mark my words -- he will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Think Stupid:

Technically, those are TWO wordS (plural) -- that's why I gave you an example that Truman was a "peace maker" even though he had to drop two A-bombs -- do I need to teach you simple math as well?

P.S. try reading a 1st grade book, first, before you tackle Obama's own autobiography where he ADMITTED to cocaine use.

Taking care of Michigan gonna be a little tougher...maybe a tsunami...need something really big to drop in the lake...maybe Hillary's butt...wonder how high I have to get her for the splash I need?

You allegations about crack use by Obama are unsubstatiated and likely racially motivated based on meaningless and insulting stereotypes and a diminished power of reasoning pr