The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Re Wright and his like: We are called to separate ourselves from the evil one.

Senator Obama will be attached to wright forever. I do not want any part of it. America does not need that!!

What is good for the Goose is goose for the Gander:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/29/eveningnews/main3894660.shtml?source=mostpop_story

and I too think that kuilor2K is a brainwashed idiot.

Michael Moore has a letter on his site stating that the Clintons (during their marital troubles) called on the Reverend Wright to come to the White House..which he did. You want a conspiracy theory..well here's one.
Why does Rev. Wright, at this time during the democratic run for presidency, start exploding at the pulpit about 'white people', knowing the beliefs and philosophies of his parishoner Obama? Does it make any sense? Could Wright be in cahoots with the Clintons? Try that on for size..

I can understand Rev Wright feeling hurt that Obama spoke critically of him - - nobody likes having their faults pointed out publicly and frankly most preachers - -are somewhat egotistical even if they have other very good qualities - -especially preachers who have been for decades at one church and have led it to great success and established many ministries that help thousands of people. And I certainly KNOW he and the church were vERY unfairly misrepresented by the media. (I am in Chicago and have watched their service on TV many times and have also visited.) Wright did not constantly say things like the most extreme comments on those tapes. And I KNOW it is by no means "black separatist" or "black supremacist" as ignorant people have falsely accused: there are some white members and worshippers of any race are warmly welcomed there. Really it is a very loving and spirit filled environment. People should check out what's been said by white members like Jane Fisler-Hoffman and William von Hoene, as well as Dr. Wright's teacher/mentor Dr. Martin Marty, who is also white, and a regular visitor to Trinity. I dont think of "Afrocentric" any differently than I do any other church that has some ethnic orientation, like my neighbor's church which has some of the masses in Polish and takes pride in their Polish heritage and traditions. I don't think thats wrong and I don't think Trinity is wrong.
BTW I don't think the Clinton supporter who invited Wright to the NPC did that to somehow sabotage Obama, but because she felt Wright- - whom she knew as a fellow minister- - had been unfairly treated. (though it is kinda weird she has purged her web site of earlier comments about him)
So in a lot of ways my sympathy does go to
Rev. Wright. BUT I do not think it was right to take out his hurt or anger with Obama by claiming /implying Obama doesn't mean what he says. To try to give him the benefit of the doubt, that may not have been his original intention - - by saying "Obama is a politician and says what politicians have to say", I suppose he MAY have meant "Obama had to speak to people who do not know me or our church, and whose first introduction shocked and offended them; it would be too complicated to try to explain all the subtleties, so he had to simplify his characterization of me." But it came out sounding like he was TRYING to get back at Obama. Now is not the time to put his personal hurt over the interests of the nation.

so hillary-richard mellon-scaife-rupert murdoch-rodham-von clinton voted for the WAR.

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Why is Rev. Wright so important anyway? If anything, Obama has been criticized for being too prone to seeing all sides and not taking strong stands (by those who value that sort of thing) - now, we're to believe that because he belonged to Wright's church and was close to him personally as a father-type-figure, that Obama is a closet radical/bigot? The only reason this became a big story is because the 24-hour news stations ran the clips over and over again. Now, Rev. Wright's arrogance and narcissism was on full display at a critical time for Obama. Once again, voters are going to be dis-served by the facination on the part of the media on "swift-boating" candidates rather than going deeper into the story. For instance: how about interviewing white members of Wright's congregation and finding out what they see in his ministry? How about articulating what assumptions are being made about Obama's character because of his association with Wright? And, give me a break with Hillary Clinton's haughty, hypocritical assertions that she "wouldn't have stayed with the church" - surely, she has had lots of experience with loving a narcissistic man who is prone to rants or antics that have publicly humiliated her over and over again - surely, she could have had some compassion and class and abstained from piling on. But, no - we're finding that's not in her character.

How Clinton camp REALLY feels about Indiana voters!
Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

I see on this site where people felt the Obama should have left the church. Noe this crazy man Rev. Whright spoke words that has an adult you can take it or leave it. I really would like to know why did the people in the Catholic Church stay. The Priest were molesting the children of the church, and this is worst than words. I find it funny why no one is asking why they did not leave the church.

DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO

How can you judge this man for not leaving when thousands of them did not leave. They have messed up these children for life, and there parents did not take them out of harms way. Point the finger at someone else then you don't have to look at youself.

Posted by: Vonnie | May 2, 2008 11:37 AM
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I am sick of you Obamacultists trying to deflect attention from the whole Wright scandal by pointing out the flaws of the Catholic Church. Yes they were wrong for covering up the molestation of children. That said, most people did not know it was going on, since the children were too afraid to come forward.

Yes the priests and the their supervisors are to blame, rightfully so. And they belong in jail.

Now back to that racist pig Wright. He spoke the hate he spewed from the pulpit. Obama lied when first asked about it, then he defended him, calling him an 'Uncle'. Only when Wright went on his idiotic weekend press blitz, and even then, Obama at first dismissed it, until the heat became too much. Then he threw him under the bus.

Obama is a fake and on Tuesday when he loses he is toast.

OK, Obama was associated with Wright and Clinton is associated with these supporters who are trashing the voters of Indiana. Voters, please view this before Tuesday (also, this should be material for the media):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

Well said Vonnie. I think we all know racists. The people around me do not define me. I define me. I am a Catholic and do not believe that all priests are perverts. I also will not leave my faith. What's wrong with being proud of your race? What's wrong about speaking out aginst injustice? Isn't that what so-called politicians and actvists do?

BTW -

I do believe it is a shame when a preacher's repetitive and repetitious sermons get used to distract us from the real issues of grasping immorality that have brought us to these times in our country.

We need to get on with the real business at issue to all of us. Immoral wars; inflationary recession; quality healthcare mostly only for the wealthy; rampant abuse of public money.

One of the real issues we need to address is that we need to make our system of taxation fair. And no more welfare for the rich! Right now, the burden of caring for those who really need to be cared for - and those who can get away with making bureaucrats believe they need help - is being carried almost solely by the working poor and lower middle economic classes. That is what is damaging our country.

Please remember that every Republican President since at least Richard Nixon has done their best to make that happen. We need a Democratic President. We need Barack Obama for President.

People on this site find it hard to believe that Obama is a good person. How many people have racist people around them and the don't stop being around them. You work with people everyday for years and you don't call them racist words around. They might think you are the best person, and they don't know you call them the N word at home. Look how you can be around a person for years and don't really know them.

I see on this site where people felt the Obama should have left the church. Noe this crazy man Rev. Whright spoke words that has an adult you can take it or leave it. I really would like to know why did the people in the Catholic Church stay. The Priest were molesting the children of the church, and this is worst than words. I find it funny why no one is asking why they did not leave the church.

DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO

How can you judge this man for not leaving when thousands of them did not leave. They have messed up these children for life, and there parents did not take them out of harms way. Point the finger at someone else then you don't have to look at youself.

Thanks for the laughs, Kuilor2k. Of course I wondered, if Obama couldn't speak Indonesian while attending a primary school in Jakarta where Indonesian was the language of instruction, what possible difference would it have made to him what they were teaching, but I guess that's part of the gag. Most of the other "charges" were even funnier.

Some entertaining bits for those of us who haven't drunk the koolaid:

'"April is the cruelest month," wrote T.S. Eliot, and it's difficult to imagine that Barack Obama and his people would in any way disagree.' -John Heilemann, New York Magazine

"In Obama's eyes, the most serious wrongdoing in Wright's statements is their disrespect of Obama. From the revered father figure who could not be disowned, Wright has become the the father from whom separation must be achieved in favor of his own identity, or the boorish relative who cannot be tolerated. The adolescent grandiosity and adolescent pettiness of Obama's remarks are perhaps the most shocking revelations of this entire episode.
-Scott Johnson, Power Line

Gallup Tracking Poll 4/28-4/30 Obama 45, Clinton 49

Real Clear Politics Poll of Polls:
Indiana: Clinton +4.8
North Carolina Clinton -7.1 (up from -25)
General: Obama +0.9 vs McCain
General: Clinton +3.1 vs McCain

I guess he might be able to beat McCain, after all, he did beat one Republican already...Alan Keyes!

When I was a young woman, I was attending church because I thought I should and because I loved singing God's music in the choir. Then that church hired a new minister.

One day, from the choir loft, sitting just behind the preacher's wife, I heard that preacher expounding on the young people of that time saying "...in a recent survey...it was determined that 95 percent of young people buh-LIEVE in witchcraft; that 95 percent of young people buh-LIEVE in..." and on; and on. This was an all-white Methodist church out in Montana.

Before I realized what I was saying - the word "B---sh-t!" dropped audibly from my mouth. I'm certain the preacher's wife heard me. I left as soon as the service was over and never went back.

The point is -- ministers say what they say in church. Other people continued attending that church - even though many of them disagreed with that preacher - because they had more compelling reasons to continue. It is an individual choice, and you don't necessarily have to agree with everything the preacher says to have a satisfying fellowship with other of faith.

I am now 68, still white, still female - still love singing in a choir - even though I never really went back to church. Too many disagreements with too many people who use religion for social control.

Go Obama

US President-elect in November '08

Rep Clyburn needs to "chill".

Senator Obama certainly stepped in it when he stayed with wright for 20 years. wright did not change, Senator Obama did!! wright was right until he was wrong for the nomination. The GOP will obiterate Senator Obama.

Rick if you believe that the election is "rigged" against Obama by anyone you must be crazy. Were have you been living for the last few months- under a bridge? Ever since Feb the press and pundits have been trying to force Clinton out of the race, they have been "dumping" all over her and her campaign for the entire race. Did you miss the SNL skit?

The only one 'Dumping" on Obama are his friends - like Rev Wright, the Ayers, ...

in response to Kuilor2k, this i know for a fact since am from kenya, Barack is a Swahilli name that means blessing, and just for your info, Swahilli is a language that evolved from Arabs and locals ( Kenya) intermarrying, Obama is a Luo name,ethnic kenya tribe. not at all Arab and Hussein is a widely used name in East africa as well as in the middle East, so check ur facts before u spew garbage

Hillary buys support with tax dollars on a regular basis.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20306341/the_queen_of_pork

"You don't trash fellow Democrats like that."

I see. But it is OK to trash the most successful Democratic President since FDR (arguably) equating him with Bush and saying he never really got anything done? He never brought about any meaningful change? Is a racist? Thats OK? That was Obama's tone from the very begining and is what turned me off on him. I, for one, view the Clinton years favorably.

Posted by: | May 2, 2008 10:47 AM

Like Many Hillary supporters you only have half the facts. Which probably explains why she still has support. Obama did state the things Bill did wrong, but he also praised Bill Clinton on many things he did right including the work he did for the verterain's administration in Washington.

Obama seems not only to critize but praise where it is warranted. Hillary will set up a praise just so she can smack down her opponent. She had to be forced on the ABC debate to admit that Obama was qualified to be President.

It took no such prompting for Obama on many occassions to say she is qualified for the office. There is just a different tone in the Clinton camp that explains the on going fighting and truff wars in her camp along with the shakeups, firings, and economic woes.

If you want to see who is really ready on day one I double dare Hillary Clinton to tell Bill to go back to the house for the rest of this election. Watch her numbers fall like a rock. I think most supporters are voting for Billary not Hillary.

Obama supporters have no doubt who they are supporting. They are not trying to go back to the 1990's but rather focus on the future. Now that is change we can believe in. YES WE CAN!!!!!

Facts are "spun" and "cherry picked" to justify most any opinion. Sometimes you just have to look at the "big picture," realize that individual politicians really are quite limited, and take "a leap of faith." Do I want something new or something old and comfortable.

COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall:

You left out the most important "critical characters" in your list - experience. On that subject your man Barack Obama comes up short - real short. He has no experience running anything. He has done nothing of note, except writing his book and running his campaign, he has done nothing of note for the country. He certainly has never done any of the things he says he is going to do, any of the things that he claims are what he has stood for all his life - we call that "vaporware" in my line of business.

Clyburn has been playing this game of appearing as some sort of neutral observer but his support for Obama and attacks on the Clintons show us all that he is just as big a phony as Obama is.

The Election is rigged against Obama , we should have seen Media coverage all over this to be fair and balanced about Creditability issues and whose has the Best Judgment to be President , this is a Joke ; the Clintons are duping us all and the media is covering this up

FEC Complaint: http://www.paulvclinton.com/FEC_complaint_123107.pdf

D. Colette Wilson
Attorney at Law
1880 S. Redwood St.
Escondido, California 92025
(760) 580-0561

December 29, 2007

By Federal Express
Office of the General Counsel
Federal Election Commission
999 E Street, NW
Washington, DC 20463

Complaint: Calling Upon the Commission to:

(1) Void the conciliation agreement granting immunity to
Respondents for any possible violations of law arising out of
fundraising events between 9/16/99 and 11/7/00;

(2) Re-open the Commission's investigation into MUR 5225, including
clear evidence of Senator Clinton's and her agents' illegal solicitation
and coordination of excessive federal campaign contributions,
pursuant to 2 U.S.C. sections 437g(d)(1)(A)(i) and 441a, subsections
(a)(7)(B)(i) and (f); and

(3) Investigate Respondents' continuing violations of 2 U.S.C. section
434(b) and 18 U.S.C. sections 1001 and 2, based on New York Senate
2000's fourth amended FEC report filed January 30, 2006.

Complainant: Peter F. Paul

Respondents: Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary Rodham Clinton for U.S. Senate Committee, Inc.; Harold Ickes, Treasurer; New York Senate 2000 Committee; Andrew Grossman, Treasurer; William Jefferson Clinton, Edward Rendell, Howard Wolfson, Kelly Craighead, David
Rosen, and James Levin,

The Lawsuit http://www.paulvclinton.com/060817_second_amended_complaint.swf

In an astonishing ruling by the Judge [on Friday, April 25,2008], Hillary Clinton may NOT be deposed about her role in the illegal solicitation and cover up of the largest contribution made to her Senate campaign until after the presidential election.

This is the same contribution Hillary denied knowing about or receiving when Lloyd Grove of the Washington Post asked her specifically about it and her relationship with the donor, Peter Paul, in August 2000.

Haters, US of kkk gave the Japanese who a racist america put in concentration camps during WW2 - $20,000.00 (please check it out!) and an apology. That was for 2 years people. I think for 400 years of slavery and racism, electing Barak is a small start, but, we need $compensation$!

Reparations, that's a good way to get more people to vote for McCain. Why should we pay for the sins of our great grandparents? Last time I checked there were no blacks wearing chains.

Like many others i too was alarmed by Wright's road-show performance on Monday. His behavior was appalling and putrid. He shifted the blame from himself as not an attack on him, but an attack on the black church. As an African-American, Wright doesn't represent me, my views or black america. Blacks do not sit in pews on Sundays ranting and raving against America. How dare he use his personal gripe with others as an excuse to lash out. He is a self-righteous, self-loathing preacher who did not have the core decency to think about the repercussions of his antics would have on his former parishioner, Barack Obama.

Obamamania just made me puke in mouth after reading that sappy post.

Ugh, if he's an example of the Obama followers, I'm staying on this side of the Clinton street.

To Hilleritas and McCainites, please let us rally around Barak now, no more hate. He must do that which every politician must do. But with our support, he will be elected President. Perhaps a serious discussion on reparations for our past sins of slavery and Jim Crow laws can then begin. Once America has paid for it past mistakes by voting for Obama, and the Reparations checks are sent out, then the healing and acceptance of the majority can be considered by the minority. Now that is truely "Change we can believe in!"

When tempers have cooled, there is more to know about the relationship . especially how often has Obama attended this church recently? As for worries about him being fooled, Clinton trusted Bush. Game over. Obama '08

"You don't trash fellow Democrats like that."

I see. But it is OK to trash the most successful Democratic President since FDR (arguably) equating him with Bush and saying he never really got anything done? He never brought about any meaningful change? Is a racist? Thats OK? That was Obama's tone from the very begining and is what turned me off on him. I, for one, view the Clinton years favorably.

The so-called black leadership better leave Wright alone or he will come back with a fury of biblical proportion.

If the Obama people want to bring Obama back, leave Wright issue alone.

I am SHOCKED at the racist comments on this blog! Maybe Wright was right!! A reality check is in order. No one wants to admit what a racist country this really is. It's easy to write him off as a flake but, listen to the things being said here. No wonder Obama wants to change this country. He probably listened to Wright's rantings so long, he set out to prove that we could do better! Just a thought.

"Never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference."

Had enough then? I'm always of the view that when your opponent starts quoting Murphy it's time to move on to something more productive.

"I think Obama started the negative campaigning..."

Oh no - it was Hillary for sure. Obama had a very positve campaign going. The negativity started when Hillary started to fall behind - remember that 11-contest losing streak? Obama was cruising, and Hillary knew she had to do something. But that's politics. I don't blame her for negative campaigning as such. It's how the tone has become, "Well Obama is not fit to be president. Only I have the experience. Even McCain would be better." Now THAT was what did it for me. You don't trash fellow Democrats like that. Leave that sort of thing up to the Republicans. No, she definitely started it.

to Kuilor2k:
You do not know anything about kenyan politics or the way of life in kenya. Just because his father was once a goat herder does not mean that he did not work hard by going to school after herding the goats; and in anycase, Kenyan elections in 2007 were flawed and yes odinga won the elections and it was taken away from. You sound like a racist and someone filled with alot of hate.

Murphy's Law

Never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference.

Kuilor,

I know very litle about many of the things you claim to be facts, except, for sure, that you don't like Barack. But the one thing I DO know is that Barack is a derivative of baraka, which IS a Kiswahili word and means, just as Obama claims, 'blessing'. Kiswahili has many words of Arabic (as well as English, Hindi and even Portuguese). Obama's father almost certainly WAS a goat herder. It is something every boy has to do until young adulthood. It is not a lifetime profession. Also, you are dead wrong about Raila Odinga rejecting a legitimate election result. There was nothing whatsoever legitimate about Kibaki's victory claims, as a plurality of international observers and governments have been keen to point out.
So, Kuilor, if you are dead wrong on the three things which, as a Brit who lives in Kenya I can claim definite factual knowledge, please tell me why I should believe any of the rest?

"And I think it's a bit rich for supporters of Hillary to trash Obama all they want and not expect a few jabs back. She started the negative campaigning"

I think Obama started the negative campaigning. He just does it so that he does not mention her name, but you know what he is talking about. Equating Hillary with Bush, saying she is incapable of bringing about any positive change, she is politics as usual, her campaign is depressing, slamming her judgement and character ... Those are all personal, negative attacks and they started well before Hillary said anything negative about Obama. If anything, Hillary has been the one to focus more on policy differences. Obama has been all character issues.

ROTFL - I didn't call you an idiot at all - just your empty threat to vote against Obama because of a few negative comments about Hillary.

If you really are a Democrat you would vote for the nominee. I would certainly vote for Hillary if she won. But Obama has it in the bag. The only bitterness I can detect seems to be coming from the Clinton side. ("You're being nasty, so I won't vote for Obama, so THERE.") I mean, really.

Don't give me this idiotic nonesense how you won't vote for Obama. Sheer idiocy.

Posted by: Mark O | May 2, 2008 10:02 AM
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Very smart, and mature. Call me an idiot when I view my concerns. Not a surprise at all, and why I raised my concerns to begin with. The cult of Obama is a group of young clueless children who are in for a rude awakening when the 'bitter' racists give Obama a wake up call.

I used to have a great amount of respect for Hillary - I don't want to trash her at all. But the way she's run her campaign has not endeared her to the vast majority of those who matter within the party. And I think it's a bit rich for supporters of Hillary to trash Obama all they want and not expect a few jabs back. She started the negative campaigning, and her followers have taken up the same themes in their posts on blogs such as these. And if you're a true democrat, you'll vote for the nominee, whoever it is. Don't give me this idiotic nonesense how you won't vote for Obama. Sheer idiocy.

Snobby, elitist and condescending? Sounds a lot like Hillary. In her view, only the states she's won are important. The rest don't matter. Forget the majority. Can't get much more elitist and condescending than that. And the sense of entitlement: "But this nomination is mine, I tell you! It's my turn, you tell 'em, Bill! Those ungrateful minions daring to vote against ME." Sorry, Hill and Bill, the party's over. You had your chance.

Posted by: Mark O | May 2, 2008 9:39 AM
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The more you Obamaheads trash Hillary the less I like Obama. Keep it up. None of my friends are going to vote for him if he wins, keep pushing and I'll join them too.

Look for the Gold

At one time Andrew Carnegie was the wealthiest man in America. He came to America from his native Scotland when he was a small boy, did a variety of odd jobs, and eventually ended up as the largest steel manufacturer in the United States. At one time he had forty-three millionaires working for him. In those days a millionaire was a rare person; conservatively speaking, a million dollars in his day would be equivalent to at least twenty million dollars today.
A reporter asked Carnegie how he had hired forty-three millionaires. Carnegie responded that those men had not been millionaires when they started working for him but had become millionaires as a result.
The reporter's next question was, "How did you develop these men to become so valuable to you that you have paid them this much money?" Carnegie replied that men are developed the same way gold is mined. When gold is mined, several tons of dirt must be moved to get an ounce of gold; but one doesn't go into the mine looking for dirt -- one goes in looking for the gold.
That's exactly the way we need to view one another. Don't look for the flaws, warts, and blemishes. Look for the gold, not for the dirt; the good, not the bad. Look for the positive aspects of life. Like everything else, the more good qualities we look for in people, the more good qualities we are going to find.

Snobby, elitist and condescending? Sounds a lot like Hillary. In her view, only the states she's won are important. The rest don't matter. Forget the majority. Can't get much more elitist and condescending than that. And the sense of entitlement: "But this nomination is mine, I tell you! It's my turn, you tell 'em, Bill! Those ungrateful minions daring to vote against ME." Sorry, Hill and Bill, the party's over. You had your chance.

The Obama-bots are starting to rave-on worse than the right-wing-nuts. Wow! No one knee-capped Obama except himself. You should not try to run as someone with unassailable character if you do not have it. Nobody likes a hypocrite (a rather snobby, elitist, and condescending hypocrite at that).

It seems to me that this election 2008 is turning more like a deposition for a law suit for wrong doings by slave ownors of over 200 years ago. How can we voters settle this with our ballots? It is not for voters to decide this it's up to the courts That's why we have courts.Yes, blacks were wronged. the Government made amend but blacks are still not satisfied.Maybe there ought to be a class action suit AA virsus US gov
But i don't beleive the settlement should be "give me president" but rather an apology and an equal amount of cash to every AA. This is the fairest way of doing things. We should let the system work. We are mixing apples and oranges.
Obama is a candidate in all do respect and should be treated no better nor worse than any other candidate NOT as a "settlement". Once we accept this we will be back to not trashing each other anymore.I think we have done enough damage to rehash hatred that was part of the past. What we built together for years and years is priceless.
God bless us all

What you guys need in that country of yours is a free press, some democracy, and a lot less blind patriotism. "America right or wrong," makes for a hell of a lot more wrong than right. Ask any Iraqi. Or wait until your neo-con government attacks Iran for Israel and gas is costing you $6 a gallon.

I sure wish people would do their REAL homework.

1. The Rezko accusation. Regarding Barack Obama buying property: Barack and his wife were living in an apartment with their 2 children. After he sold his first book and they starting paying off their college loans, Barack wanted to buy his wife their first house. He worked with a realtor (and you should read HER account), they looked at several houses and Michelle fell in love with one particular house and they made an offer to buy it. The realtor told them that the seller had accepted their offer but would not close the deal until an ADJOINING track of land sold at the same time. They insisted that both the house and the adjoining track of land should be sold at the same time. The Rezko's purchased the ADJOINING tract of land. After the Obama's moved into their new home, they asked the realtor to check to see if the purchaser of the adjoining tract would sell them a portion of it so they could enlarge their property so they could enclose a section for a play area for the children. The Obama's then purchased that additional section at the GOING RATE of the cost of the land through a second mortgage on their house. Obama was not aware at the time since he was working through a realtor that Rezko was at the time UNDER INVESTIGATION and subsequently indicted. It was only AFTER they purchased the land from MRS. REZKO that he found out about the indictment.

2. The accustaions that he received donations from the CORPORATIONS listed above is misleading. Suppose I worked at one of those companies and decided to donate to his campaign. YOU HAVE TO LIST WHO YOU WORK FOR when making the donation.
The amounts listed represent INDIVIDUAL donors. Educate yourself before you make accusations. HE DOES NOT ACCEPT MONEY FROM CORPORATE ENTITIES OR PACS, UNLIKE CLINTON. THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL DONORS IDIOT! You just totaled up individual donations and posted it as if it was corporations making the donations.

3. Origin of name "Obama"

Obama:
a Luo name (male) from Western Kenya (Nyanza Provice) which may derive from "obam," which conotes "bending" or "leaning".

4. Obama's PAC -- was originated and stayed in ILLINOIS. If you even bothered to read the purpose of the PAC which was closed after he announced for Presidency was to RAISE FUNDS TO HELP NEWCOMERS TO POLITICS RUN FOR OFFICE. It EVEN DONATED TO HILLARY CLINTON'S FIRST SENATE RUN.
The PAC donated to mainly "down-ticket" candidates. If you don't know what "down-ticket" means, then I suggest you do some research before attacking Barack Obama.

4. Barack Obama has absolutely NO CONNECTION to Hsu. Hsu was a "Hillraiser" for Hillary Clinton. After he went on the run before being arrested Hillary Clinton continued to keep him on the "hillraiser" list and only removed him after several weeks AFTER he was in jail.

5. Hillary Clinton has Muslims working on her campaign. Is this a racist view of yours? The majority of Muslim Americans are decent harworking American citizens. The one in the recent news is connected to John McCain. Good grief, even Hillary's "um, gal pal, Huma Abedin" is Muslim. But then we aren't allowed to talk about her now are we?

6. If you want to attack a candidate because of what someone they know says that is outrageous, why not hold Hillary Clinton to the same standard which MSM media fails to do? What about her pal Rendell in PA who attacked Obama regarding Farakkan, yet if you look on Youtube and everywhere else, it was RENDELL who PRAISED and LAUDED Farakkan, NOT Obama. They are playing the race card for all it's worth and Rendell is a serious racist.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. If this is the level of your knowledge about candidates, you shouldn't be posting nonsence on the web when you are so ill-informed.

I've said it before and and I'll say it again: Obama has this wrapped up - there's no way the superdelegates will overturn the results of the primaries and caucuses. Especially when Obama has proven he can raise heaps of dough, make inroads into swing states and support the 50-state strategy of the DNC.

Clinton can't match that. Her campaign is in debt, most of the states she's won are going to be picked up by the Democrats anyway, and her high negative poll numbers won't help bring in new voters.

So it's really only a matter of time now. The only question is whether Hillary will bow out gracefully when the time comes, and then tell her supporters to chill a little. The last thing we need are all the morons (like on this site) posting petty anti-Obama diatribes right up until the general election. It's really getting out of hand, and only Clinton has the power to call a ceasefire. I hope she'll have the grace to do that.

You folks are completely and totally whack. If Jesus Himself came down from on high, ya'll would hammer Him for lying about feeding the masses on a couple of fish. You'd indict Him for being a socialist and anti corporations because He threw the money changes out of the temple. I could go on, but even some of you less than charitable folks get it.

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OBAMA'S ALREADY WON !

Don't believe me?

...go on the Delegate Calculator, and punch in the numbers

Let Hillary win by 70%, in EVERY remaining primary ...

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and Obama is still ahead

OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON !

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DELEGATE CALCULATOR:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

GO OBAMA !

I'm so glad Clyburn is speaking out against Wright knee-capping Obama. Wright is no example of Christ's love, which calls us to be patient and kind, never jealous or envious. Wright's church is also not an example of a typical black church. I've been to a few black churches in my time and found the gospel being preached to dancing congregations that were speaking in tongues. There was no hate or profanity spoken from those pulpits.

I'm glad Obama hasn't lost all his support from voters. I do fear that he is unelectable in the fall since images of Wright's maniacal behavior will play into the fears of poor, old, white, uneducated voters.

I'm very angry about Wright's antics. He betrayed a former congregant and a longtime friend. Thank God I am a devout Christian woman, otherwise I'd be demanding Wright's head on a silver platter.

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Yeah sure, we believe you.

...and I supposed that you fought in the war too?

(Just like Chelsea & the Bush Twins did?)

MORE THAN 4,000 US SOLDIERS DEAD because of people like HILLARY CLINTON who voted for the WAR

Hillary was for the war, as so were you
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MORE THAN 4,000 US SOLDIERS DEAD BECAUSE OF SADDAM'S GREED, MURDER AND RAPE!!! GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT. I LIVED IN IRAQ FOR 20 YEARS AND I THANK THE UNITED STATES FOR TAKING HIM DOWN.

I wonder if Barbara had to thaw out Hillary's side of the bed in the White House..I swear she is an Ice Princess...Cold to the core, all of her human parts died a long, long time ago.

Posted by: | May 1, 2008 8:33 PM

those little voices still talking to you again.you really should take your medicine

I can't wait until the good Rev. Wright responds (if he doesn't, that probably means he was in cahoots with the Obama campaign from the start ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 1, 2008 5:29 PM

He won't...you hit the nail on the head jaked....all an act..you won't see or hear from him until he visits obama if he wins

well..I see the morons have took over this blog

Neo-con's wet dream:

General election between Mr. Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran and Ms. Obliterate Iran.

It's all about judgment on life-or-death issues that truly affect us. Rev. Wright's three minutes of so-called "racist hate speech" out of 20 years of sermons does not.

"Remember, Hillary Voted FOR THE IRAQ WAR"

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Remember, Obama has consistently Voted TO FUND THE IRAQ WAR! Isn't that great for someone who claims to have opposed the war? In a speech we now know with a 14 second reference to the Iraq war!

Oh, btw, don't tell the gullible Obama supporters who've bought his lies about being against the Iraq war that their candidate had to re-record the 14 seconds sound bite after declaring his candidacy, because the "original" speech was nowhere to be found!! Hmmmmm!! Interesting, isn't it?

Obama was against the Iraq war before he voted to fund it! And Obama prayed with Rev. Wright before he was against him! More, I, Obama, never had a 20+-year relationship with that man, Rev. Wright!! Neat and cute!

Obama's supporters, including Mr. Clyburn and Andrews, have to be divorced from the reality of politics if they think the Republicans are not going to use all of these and more against Obama, if he is the Democratic party's nominee for the GE. They have to understand that the primaries are completely different from the general election. Whereas Hillary is constraint to use them against Obama, the RNC and 527s are not. And charges of racism by his supporters would be ignored, even ridiculed, with help from a McCain-loving media and pundits!

Hmmmm!! For someone who claims he's uncommitted to either candidate, Mr. Clyburn is sure coming across as firmly in the Obama corner. First, he blasts Hillary and Bill, calling them all but racists (btw, "racist" and "racism" have become the new Obama campaign and his gullible supporters' sing-along when ever Obama is criticized, called out on his bs, or exposed as a snake oil selling phoney). Now, he's going after Rev. Wright for unmasking Obama, and showing the world the real Obama behind the mask - a smooth talking conniver and appeaser, who lies and exaggerates with a straight face, and says what he knows his audience want to hear, not what they have to hear!

Mr. Clyburn, you can villify Rev. Wright as much as you want to, as you did with the Clintons, but there's no way you going to help Obama Obama explain away a 20+-year unbroken relationship between Obama and Rev. Wright!

To those Obama supporters doing the happy dance about Mr. Andrew's support, my question is, Andrew who? The guy's a lobbyist and Washington insider, for crying out loud! So much for the anti-Washington candidate of change and hope!

Yes, Hillary appeared on The Factor, so what? Didn't Obama run to Chris Wallace and the same Fox News for damage control? Besides, whereas Obama pandered to Fox News and its viewers by praising Republican policies, referring to them as good, Hillary presented hers policies as well as what the Democratic party stands for. In short, Hillary defended the Democratic party on Fox News, Obama, on the other hand, had only praises for the Republican party, indirectly throwing the Democratic party under the bus. Considering this isn't the first time he's done it, only the braindead will not see who's a panderer and Republican mole and who represents the values and beliefs of the Democratic. It sure is NOT Obama!!!

Woody,

I agree completely!

We are witnessing a potential crossroads in our history.

I'm going with Obama.

Poster Tom responds to one of Kuilor2k's debunked rumors saying
"I checked on some of those facts. His wife did get a huge raise right after he got into the Senate and he also tried to get that hospital an earmark. That's very questionable."

Now I don't think Obama lost Tom's vote but I am sick of that rumor too. Tom didn't check too well. Michelle did get a raise. The raise could be a promotion to full time position as the hospitals' vice president for community and external affairs in March. The kids were older, campaign was over, she could get back to her career. Her pay was in line with starting at that level.

Obama did request an earmark although it didn't go through. He also requested earmarks for 5 other hospitals that year:

1-2006 University of Chicago Hospitals for construction of new hospital pavilion $1 million
2-2006 Thorek Memorial Hospital Cancer Treatment Center $2 million
3-2006 Alton Memorial Hospital to support its Riverbend Stroke Center $1 million
4-2006 Swedish Covenant Hospital for a Training and Resource Center $800,000
5-2006 The Children"s Hospital of Illinois replacement project $2.5 million ($10 million over 4 years)
6-2006 Northwestern Memorial Hospital"s to support Prentice Woman"s Hospital $5 million

People can smear by outright lies or by making an innocent truth sound dirty. Whoever took just that one hospital off the list and then tried to tie Michelle's raise was doing just that.

A shorter version of the above:

Rev. Wright could be experiencing the first stages of Alzheimers - a disease that often causes negative behavioral changes in the early stages.

That would explain:

-why Obama hadn't heard such divisive statements from Rev. Wright in the past,

-And why many of the parishoners from the church are saying the same thing as Obama,

-And why the statements we've all heard are from Rev. Wright's more recent sermons.

-And why the media hasn't been able to dredge up a whole lot more, after instensive research into taped and transcribed sermons of over 20 years.

Now I'm not usually a paranoid guy, but there are a number of inconsistencies and oddities in the media concerning Senator Obama that give me pause. First, why is Senator Obama constantly being hit for what his pastor said when Senator McCain has sought and still covets the likes of televangelist John Hagee who believes the Catholic Church conspired with the Nazis and that Katrina was God's retribution for homosexual sin? Second, why is the media constantly pushing the idea that Senator Obama is an elitist when he came from a broken home as opposed to the other 2 candidates who were never placed at such a disadvantage? Added with the fact that Senator McCain and Senator Clinton are worth at least 100 million dollars and Hillary doesn't know how to operate a blue collar coffee machine, I find that assertion particularly odd. Third, why does the media avoid Bill Clintion's ties with dictators and the dubious contributions to his library? Fourth, why is Senator Obama constantly being labeled the 'Black' candidate when in fact he is half white? Fifth, why has the media virtually said nothing about Senator Clinton wanting to use the United States military to keep all nations in check in the Middle East? This seems entirely inconsistent since it is a major policy shift from disengaging Iraq to engaging the entire Middle East! And lastly, why is Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Fox news doing everything possible to get Hillary Clinton elected? Like I said, I'm not usually a paranoid guy, but all these facts seem to point to one thing: that Senator Obama isn't all hot air and actually is the candidate of change. Something the corridors of power in Washington and corporate media (an extension of corporate America) aren't too happy about.

Obama says that during the 20 years he attended Rev. Wright's services, Obama had never before heard Rev. Wright make the extremely divisive statements that we've seen played over and over again.

Some people don't believe Obama, but what the media keeps leaving out is that many parishoners of Trinity Church are saying the same thing as Obama - that these are not the sermons they were accustomed to hearing from Rev. Wright in their church.

And intensive media research into 20 years of taped and transcribed sermons hasn't dredged up much.

Could it be that Rev. Wright, an elderly man who has dedicated his life to helping the poor, has recently acquired some personal or health problems that have somehow propelled him into making these divisive statements?

One possibility that comes to mind is Alzheimers. The first stages are often accompanied by negative behavioral changes.

We could all be witnessing nothing more than the personal trajedy of one man's journey into the throes of a devastating disease.

Hillary says 'god bless rich people.'
http://thekrays.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/hillary-says-god-bless-rich-people/

It is time to get on with the business of this Great country. The United State of Amierica. We want a man for President that Want to put this country on the Right Track and B. Obama is the man to do that.
There are so many inportant things going on in this country daily, that out rank what rev Wright has said or is thinging. Our son and daughter fighting a war that they sould not be fighting. The unemployment rate is the highest it has been in a long time. The school system that is failing. All the people who do not have or can not affort health insurance. Those are the issure we should be thinking and talking about. Listen to Obama, he is talking about our country. He is talking about what he is going to do to get this country back on track. These are the things we should be talking about.
The media is working on your head if all you can think about or talk about is the rev. wright.
It is time for you all to start thinking for yourself and not let the MEDIA make you look and act like you can not think for yourself. We are thinker and doer. So let think and do the right think. When you go to the polls to vote, Make the right decission. Vote for the person that will be their for you the American People. A Vote for Obama is a Vote for change and this country need CHANGE. So let put the right person IN the White House. Let put B. OMAMA IN the White House.

LET PUT THE RIGHT PERSON IS THE WHITE HOUSE.
B. OBAMA.

HE IS THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB.

LET PUT B. OBAMA IS THE WHITE HOUSE.

THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES B. OBAMA, B OBAMA

THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES B. OBAMA
WE WANT THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB.

What a load of old cow's dung. Here is a guy who spent 20 years in the congregation of a man who he describes as "like an uncle to me", who performed his marriage and baptized his children and was the inspiration of his latest book, and suddenly he realizes that what he has been saying "contradicts everything I am about and who I am". You have to be the most gullible dimwit to believe this total illogical nonsense.

What Wright has recently been saying is in total harmony with his past sermons. So, why Obama's sudden change? Could it be something to do with the fact that his "race speech" didn't quite do the trick in Pennsylvania and he wants to pacify Whitey in Indiana? I think so and apparently so does Wright. Paranoia aside, Rev. Wright is intelligent, and his implication that Obama is a phony is undoubtedly true. We don't have hugging sessions with people whose opinions we abhor.

Otherwise one has to ask how is it possible that it took 20 years to glean his views on a subject that is well known by most of his Church's congregants? Is this appalling lack of discernment an attribute we want in the Oval office? What can one say about the lack of judgment and the lack of decisive leadership in this guy? What would he do with those 3 am phone calls?

Has everyone also forgotten the reputed conversation of some years back between Obama and Wright, after Wright went to Libya with Farrakhan, where Wright tells Obama, you will have to disown me down the line and Obama says, "Yes, that might have to happen". Get real folks!

With everything else coming out of Chicago, which now includes accusations of money laundering, McCain will get a landslide. Wake up! Clinton is the only hope for the Democrats from being totally destroyed in November. Was it sooooo bad with them before?

And by the way, where is The Uniter? The Democrats are trashing each other like crazy, the Catholics are moaning at each other, and now the African Americans are divided. Even Oprah viewers are fussing at each other. What a joke!

It is time to get on with the business of this Great country. The United State of Amierica. We want a man for President that Want to put this country on the Right Track and B. Obama is the man to do that.
There are so many inportant things going on in this country daily, that out rank what rev Wright has said or is thinging. Our son and daughter fighting a war that they sould not be fighting. The unemployment rate is the highest it has been in a long time. The school system that is failing. All the people who do not have or can not affort health insurance. Those are the issure we should be thinking and talking about. Listen to Obama, he is talking about our country. He is talking about what he is going to do to get this country back on track. These are the things we should be talking about.
The media is working on your head if all you can think about or talk about is the rev. wright.
It is time for you all to start thinking for yourself and not let the MEDIA make you look and act like you can not think for yourself. We are thinker and doer. So let think and do the right think. When you go to the polls to vote, Make the right decission. Vote for the person that will be their for you the American People. A Vote for Obama is a Vote for change and this country need CHANGE. So let put the right person is the White House. Let put B. OMAMA is the White House.

It is time to get on with the business of this Great country. The United State of Amierica. We want a man for President that Want to put this country on the Right Track and B. Obama is the man to do that.
There are so many inportant things going on in this country daily, that out rank what rev Wright has said or is thinging. Our son and daughter fighting a war that they sould not be fighting. The unemployment rate is the highest it has been in a long time. The school system that is failing. All the people who do not have or can not affort health insurance. Those are the issure we should be thinking and talking about. Listen to Obama, he is talking about our country. He is talking about what he is going to do to get this country back on track. These are the things we should be talking about.
The media is working on your head if all you can think about or talk about is the rev. wright.
It is time for you all to start thinking for yourself and not let the MEDIA make you look and act like you can not think for yourself. We are thinker and doer. So let think and do the right think. When you go to the polls to vote, Make the right decission. Vote for the person that will be their for you the American People. A Vote for Obama is a Vote for change and this country need CHANGE. So let put the right person is the White House. Let put B. OMAMA is the White House.

THE IRAQ WAR IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES ON OUR ECONOMY and those who voted for the war (i.e. hillary) should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.

Look how the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR is affecting the US economy...

$3,000,000,000... 3 Billion dollars PER WEEK!

That is the amount America is paying for the Iraq War PER WEEK, money that should have been used here, at home.

Add to this:

Interest. We are financing the iRAQ war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) that carries interest; so in actuality, the war is costing the United States MORE THAN 3 billion dollars PER WEEK.

Higher oil and energy prices. Instability from the war in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.

High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR mean high utility bills. Higher oil prices shifts demand to other sources of energy - gas, coal, etc. - and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy -- Can you say high energy bills?

High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean high prices of goods and services -- Can you say INFLATION?

Higher trade deficit. High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country -- Can you say Goodbye to your hard-earned money!

The US dollar is weak and getting weaker due to the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR. Since we have a trade deficit and is growing in large part to the rising cost of imported oil, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that car you're thinking of buying or the computer you're using, or that trip you're thinking of taking? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak and getting weaker due to the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR.

Lastly, how do you think the world views our country since the argument was made for war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq thanks to hillary's authorization.

Remember, Hillary Voted FOR THE IRAQ WAR

THE IRAQ WAR IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES ON OUR ECONOMY and those who voted for the war (i.e. hillary) should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.

Look how the COST OF THE WAR IN IRAQ is affecting the US economy...

$3,000,000,000... 3 Billion dollars PER WEEK!

That is the amount America is paying for the Iraq War PER WEEK, money that should have been used here, at home.

Add to this:

Interest. We are financing the iRAQ war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) that carries interest; so in actuality, the war is costing the United States MORE THAN 3 billion dollars PER WEEK.

Higher oil and energy prices. Instability from the war in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.

High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR mean high utility bills. Higher oil prices shifts demand to other sources of energy - gas, coal, etc. - and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy -- Can you say high energy bills?

High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean high prices of goods and services -- Can you say INFLATION?

Higher trade deficit. High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country -- Can you say Goodbye to your hard-earned money!

The US dollar is weak and getting weaker due to the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR. Since we have a trade deficit and is growing in large part to the rising cost of imported oil, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that car you're thinking of buying or the computer you're using, or that trip you're thinking of taking? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak and getting weaker due to the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR.

Lastly, how do you think the world views our country since the argument was made for war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq thanks to hillary's authorization.

Remember, Hillary Voted FOR THE IRAQ WAR

Is the rumour that Hillary Clinton has paid handsomely to Wright to do that wackadoodle talking freak show true? I know she is capable of engaging the service of this crazy old man but I thought she was broke. No?

THE IRAQ WAR IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES ON OUR ECONOMY and those who voted for the war (i.e. hillary) should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.

Look how the THE IRAQ WAR is affecting the US economy...

$3,000,000,000... 3 Billion dollars PER WEEK!

That is the amount America is paying for the Iraq War PER WEEK, money that should have been used here, at home.

Add to this:

Interest. We are financing the iRAQ war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) that carries interest; so in actuality, the war is costing the United States MORE THAN 3 billion dollars PER WEEK.

Higher oil and energy prices. Instability from the war in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.

High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR mean high utility bills. Higher oil prices shifts demand to other sources of energy - gas, coal, etc. - and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy -- Can you say high energy bills?

High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean high prices of goods and services -- Can you say INFLATION?

Higher trade deficit. High oil prices due to the IRAQ WAR mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country -- Can you say Goodbye to your hard-earned money!

The US dollar is weak and getting weaker due to the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR. Since we have a trade deficit and is growing in large part to the rising cost of imported oil, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that car you're thinking of buying or the computer you're using, or that trip you're thinking of taking? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak and getting weaker due to the COST OF THE IRAQ WAR.

Lastly, how do you think the world views our country since the argument was made for war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq thanks to hillary's authorization.

Remember, Hillary Voted FOR THE IRAQ WAR

This Wright s**tbag shoul just disappear. I can't just stand his insanely stupid face. Oh, there is one more of those insanely stupid face I never want to see ever again. That of Hillary Clinton.

Jake D

YOU JUSTIFY WRIGHT

YES YOU DO.

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but...but...but...

he just said a few days ago that the clintons were the one knee-capping poor obama and hurting his chances in nov. could it be that obama is a fundamentally weak candidate that has gotten by because he was coddled by the media and bloggers for so long?

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Rush Limbaugh, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Pat Buchanan,
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This is a sick site!!Some of the comments are just OUTRAGEOUS!! The Neocons for Hillary are disturbed!!Cowards too!!This is so sad..the democratic party is crumbling just look at how we are tearing each other apart on here!!It's so hate filled, we are about to make history with either canidate, which both are good canidates!It just seems like the Clinton supporters are at the point of no return,you people need to chill it's not Clintons fault it was her campaign that did her wrong spending all of her money and constantly letting her tell that lie about being under sniper fire!!Also to all of you Rev. Wright haters out there, in some of your comments the way you describe your pure hate for Rev. Wright it sounds like you guys have grown up in some pretty racist households for more than 20 years....so what were you supposed to do walk out on you parents?...or your racist grandparents??Come on people it is what it is.Sen. Obama is not Rev. Wright!! How many times does he have to say that??I mean this is subject is so stupid!!This is the only thing they can come to Sen. Obama with? I am also upset with the Washington Post for letting these Crazy fools:NEOCONS for Hillary get away with making these racist, threats!! What is really going???Attack Obama???I haven't seen on any blog anyone threating to Attack Hillary or the white race! Shame on the Washington Post it clearly says:We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

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You need to check yourselves you are creating allot of racial tension on this site and any mention of killing, or attacking Sen. Obama should be taking down IMMEDIATELT!!!!SHAME ON THE WASHINGTON POST !!!

What Clyburn, how's about you blame Wright for trying to sabotage Obama's campaign? Oh wait I guess it sounds alot better to blame a white woman than to blame a black pastor ha?

To to Kuilor2k:
thought this might interest you

Hillary's list of lies Published on TheHill.com on March 25, 2008.

Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here's her scorecard:

Admitted Lies

• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)

Whoppers She Won't Confess To

• She didn't know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?

Not sure if the 'Obamates' comment was in response to my post or not. If so, please explain why you assume I support one candidate over another. I'm here to learn, am doing my research and trying to figure out this whole mess. What I have seen is that people act like they are rooting for a football game...slamming the other opponent without any thought or attempt to educate. I'm pretty disappointed. I figured the Post would have some insightful readers and comments. With few exception, I see I set my expectations too high.

what qualifies one to be president
someone who is honest and admit when they are wrong
or
someone who lies and says oh they were just a little confused

someone who has integrity and wants to fight fair
or
someone who wants to undermind everything and make solutions work to benefit themselves

someone that is willing to work for the people
or
someone that will do something for you if you will do for them later

the way i see it-- we all owe Hillary because her and her husband has done so much for us-- and if we don't vote for her then our vote, our cities and our states don't matter

Barack is willing to work from the bottom up and will campaign in small states and large states and not discount any of them even if he looses---you see he wants to be president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Hillary wants to be president period.... and it doesn't matter who she has to step on to get it--- i see no integrity in her-- I am a woman and I see the games she has played--- i use the same tactics sometimes to get my way---

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The Obamates are really a nice bunch of people. Their only defect is that their mouth works faster than their brains.
They are in touch with reality when they are asleep. They are very smart in that they always see the wrong side as the right side.
Of course they are all very elite, Kennedy, Kerry, Clyburn, Richarson, and the rich of America, they can always pay people to say the things that they cannot say personally.

Jubilee--

I was typing the same thing and want to thank you for your rational thoughts. Obama stayed at the church and with Wright because this is the man who brought him to God. They had an established relationship...he married the Obamas and baptized their chilcren.

We've heard all the negatives about Wright, but if you do your research, you will find all of the positives.

To take it a step further, Hillary stayed with Bill (after his um..incidents) because they too have a relationship. And relationships are complex, emotional and often times not rational.

Does this bring in mind what kind of 'judgement' Obama will have as president because he didn't immediately repudiate Wright? I'm personally not sure, but then I think of the 'judgement' Hillary demonstrated when voting for the war. If standing behind a 20 relationship (until the breaking point we witnessed this week) with a church and man that were both good and bad makes people question Obama's 'judgement' then how can people consider Hillary's vote for war any better?

http://homepage.mac.com/lacsr/ClintonExperience/bill_clinton_endorses_obama.html

check this out I think BIll CLINTON said it best--- GOOOO OBAMA

I am an Obama supporter who is not bothered by the 20 year relationship with Rev. Wright. Barack tells in his book "Dreams of My Father" the impact that Rev. Wright had on his life and his becoming a Christian. But, I suspect that his relationship with Wright was similar to the dynamics in any 20 year relationship. When in a long term relationship one tends to overlook the things that you don't agree with and focus on the good - not only the good in his Pastor (who preached on Hope among other things) but the good in the church community. Barack noted in his last speeh that perhaps they don't know each other as well as they thought. Not really surprising in that it is not uncommon for people in any type of relationship to grow apart.

So why would he stay? Because one does not go to church in a vacume. His wife and daughter are part of that church with their own bonds of friendship and support. Leaving a church is not just leaving the minister...it is leaving the church family People can stay in marriages, companies, clubs, and friendships long past the time that they are life affirming. Breakin up is hard to do.

Did you know Hillary ex pastor is in jail ?
does anyone know that Hillary ex pastor , Rev. William Procarnick, at The Resurrection Assembly Of God Church, was sented to three years in prison on January 22, 2008 for first degree sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child? This shows we donot know what our pastor is doing. He lied about this on the stand. http://www.uticaod.com/homepage/x1637676...

Hey 'Truth About Phony Obama'--

I appreciate the article link you sent. I want to share one with you and ask--without snark, how are the two instances any different?

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200801/POL20080124d.html

Did you know Louis Farrakan is in his Late 80s. He is aging well.

Also he was a musical genius and played with the Boston symphony at age 8.

Grew up in an mixed neighborhood with lots of Jews. Probably took lots of violin lessens with nice Jewish boys:)

The fact checker is a political arm of the Obambi campaign.

usually I write that on the fact checker but I am giving it up.

I would almost feel sorry for Obambi but I read parts of the Prince in School.

That is were the leader pretends to be a believer to fool the people.

Should have gone to another church - Oh well.

How come every time Obama gets B slapped he wines and then tells us the election is won.

Every time it get more sad.

Suppers already have decided on Obama - yea.

last time Hillary had to get out.

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Kuilor2k listed a lot of findings about Senator Obama. Some of it is mean-spirited nit-picking. But much of it appears plausible. Hopefully, McCain has 1000 times as many skeletons in his closet. Somebody has got to be President...

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Please write in for Ron Paul during the general election! Boycott all the candidates who are just the empty suite, empty talk, spin doctors, sniper ducker, or the no-more straight talker!

Long Live American Democracy!
Long Live American Freedom!
Long Live American Libertieran!

Hey, I thought it was a Next Generation Trekkie Convention?! What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

A NEOCON is both a racist and a patriot and yet it is neither; it is its own beginning and its own end--like Obama.

Imagine if Hillary Clintons minister preached that white people where superior than black people and that black people had better dancing skills that white people.
All hell would break loose.
Racism is racism, whether it comes from a white person or whether it comes from a black person. Louis Farrakan is not a role model. He is a bigot.
This is a presidential election not a beauty contest. This is serious stuff. If Obama cannot answer tough questions now, do we really want him as a nominee?
I do not.

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... those who pushed for the iraq war
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Wait till Indiana and North Carolina vote and tell me if Wright has hurt Obama.
Hillary will win Indiana and come very close in North Carolina. She was behind by 25 points only 10 days ago.
Democrats can act high minded and ignore Wright at their own peril. Obama should have condemned Wright when most Americans were first angry about it, the FIRST TIME they heard it. Obama took a month to get mad over it. Whats up with that?
Does anyone out there take their kids to church to hear hatred?

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We lost 365,000 in the 2nd World War. We lost 58,000 in Vietnam. 50,000 in Korea. The Soviet Union lost over 20 million in the 2nd World War. Over 60 million died Worldwide..........How many in Iraq........4,000? That is alot if you are one of the 4,000 but in the context of war that is not very many....is it?

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Yes, wise one. A NEOCON is a ST the Next Generation Convention. The next one is being held in DC in January.

"Live Long and Goddam America"

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BTW, what is a NEOCON? Is that a Star Trek the NExt Generation CONvention? Where is the next one being held?

NEW YORK)(April 27, 2008) The disclosure today in the Los Angeles Times that Barack Obama laundered money through a law firm to conceal the source of his income while an Illinois state senator is the "smoking gun" that is going to doom his candidacy. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killerspin27apr27,0,6789688.story

Barack Obama should withdraw as a presidential candidate. Immediately. The latest evidence of his professional corruption is going to doom the Democratic Party.

Although the L. A. Times' reporters have tried to present Obama's crooked deal in a fair and balanced way, there is no way you can avoid the conclusion that the substance of the transaction was intended to conceal that Obama was engaging in political money laundering to disguise the source of his income. Obama is exposed as just another corrupt African-American legislator in Illinois cutting deals for other African-Americans. Is it any wonder he became the protégé of sleazy Senator Emil Jones in the Illinois senate?

Why was Obama's Blackwell deal "money laundering?" The L. A. Times story is not clear on that point. Laundering was involved because Obama used "disclosure" to conceal the source of his income while a public official. Obama's game also exposes that in Illinois even good government types, such as Cynthia Canary, can be corrupted. Canary tries to whitewash something that she would strongly condemn if the practice had been engaged in by any other legislator. In other words, Obama has even managed to corrupt Canary and the integrity of her organization. It's disgusting.

Obama's "client," Robert Blackwell, Jr. was also an operative in the machinations of crooked Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich, http://www.eki-consulting.com/APPS/EKIHP1.nsf/Content/BE14CC6D3CE4025586256D030075A471?OpenDocument

The Times details how Obama was still "of counsel" to his former law firm, but that he was not providing any services to that entity. Then Obama made a deal with Blackwell, and wanted to conceal that Blackwell was supporting him. So Obama "laundered" the "legal fees" by running them through the law firm and then issuing a list of the law firm's clients-none of which had anything to do with Obama--to disguise the Blackwell money in a laundry list of hundreds of unrelated "clients." This was a classic case of money laundering and business fraud. Obama wanted to conceal the large sum he was receiving from Blackwell, so he concealed that Blackwell was the source of his income by pretending he was providing services to the law firm's other clients. Utter fraud. "Barry O" ain't stupid, he's slicky and tricky, and he's a ticking time bomb for the Democratic Party.

Since the law firm had nothing to do with Blackwell, and was merely acting as a conduit for legal fees for Obama, this example shows that Obama was nothing but just another crooked Illinois politician.

Obama's "law firm" was also guilty of professional misconduct, because the lawyers knew that Obama had not provided services through the law firm, and was merely using the firm to obscure the fact that the major source of his personal income was one client on whose behalf Obama was later to advocate (there may have been earlier informal advocacy than the senate letter which has surfaced).

Time and time again, Obama's law firm stands guilty of being exposed for sleazy professional tactics and gross conflicts of interest. Obama's law firm was nothing more than a college of corruption for money laundering, conflicts of interests and other inappropriate professional behavior; and a collection of crooked lawyers that were stealing and concealing at every opportunity. Is it any wonder that honest lawyers get a bad name when crooked operatives such as Obama play games and use the law to conceal the source of their income?

Since the law firm had no relationship with Blackwell, running Obama's fees through the firm was false and fraudulent. Since Obama had nothing to do with the law firm's other clients, using a list of hundreds of unrelated clients to obscure that only one of those "clients" was paying him money was federal criminal mail fraud as well as a corruption of the ethics rules in Illinois. That Cynthia Canary tries to whitewash such blatant corruption shows that she has lost all sense of ethics and legitimacy when Obama is the one stealing the money. What's her link?

Finally, the L. A. Times article leaves unanswered the big question: what legal work did Obama do to earn $112,000? He has never disclosed that he was working half-time for Blackwell, and there is no paper trail or track record of Obama having ever done any legal services to earn such a substantial sum. Before today, no one knew of the massive Blackwell-Obama connection. So where is the evidence of providing legal services to earn the money? I am going to be asking for an FBI investigation later this week.

Barry "Barack" Obama: just one more crooked Illinois politician. He's a disgrace to the good, honest hard working people of Illinois.

Four years ago I disclosed that Obama was a fraud artist. I didn't know at the time just how true my conclusions were, or how expansive and extensive Obama's corruption really was. A big thanks to the L. A. Times for providing the "smoking gun" to document just how utterly sleazy Barack Obama has been in his professional life.

Obama should immediately withdraw as a presidential candidate. The "honest graft" that Obama engineered with Robert Blackwell, Jr. is going to doom the Democratic Party in November. Any delegate, pledged, super or otherwise, who supports Obama for president after disclosure of the Barnhill/Blackwell caper, has a death wish for the Democrats in November.

[Note: this column has focused on the crass political corruption Obama engineered to conceal the source of his income, and the way "good government" types such as Cynthia Canary are providing "cover" for Obama's corruption. The fact that Obama used his senate letterhead to gain money for his client is just one more angle of the same slimy story. Using his senate office for his client is self-evident; the use of a professional firm to launder and conceal that his major source of income was only one person, Blackwell, is not so obvious, which is why this column has concentrated on that aspect of the L. A. Times' revelations. The "senate letterhead" aspects, however, are no less important for what they reveal about Obama's "play to play" operations in Illinois politics.] Obama was just an African-American Tony Rezko. Is it any wonder the two were so close for decades?]

And is it any wonder that Barack Obama is now afraid to debate, given the latest sleaze cascading out of his past?

Remember the Clintonistas are mostly the undereducated or less. They don't know what the words mean, they just hear Hilliary say them and like a bunch of parrots they repeat those words. Anyone notice Hilliary has done an excellent job of rounding up the uneducated, the racists, the bigots, and the uninformed?? Are America's citizens going to let this "tier" of our society determine who will be our next President?? These are the people that believe Bill was so good to them and that he did a lot for them in the 90s and now believe Hilliary will do the same. What they don't realize is this is no longer the 90s-----times have changed considerably and require NEW leadership, NEW ideals (remember, the Clinton's did NOT have any ideals....scandal after scandal, coverups, lies, deceit, Bill sexually harrassing the female employees in the White House, Bill using the Oval Office to get his jollies with a 19 year old intern, more lies, lies to the nation, the world and the Grand Jury---the Clintons are still that way today!!) Come on folks, the Clintons are corrupt politicians. I believe they conspired with Wright to try and throw Senator Obama under the bus. Look at the timing, for heaven's sake!!! Just before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries! Hillary has thrown the kitchen sink at Senator Obama just before primaries and caucuses, then she goes around smirking and feeling proud of herself. She is absolutely disgusting and a disgrace to the Democrat party, the United States of America and to the American citizens!! The world is watching, listening, and waiting, I do not think they see Hilliary as a positive force and they would be absolutely correct. She is poison to the USA and the world. She is so full of venum, hate, and bitterness---guess you get that way when your spouse repeatedly rejects you for other women. While Bill may OWE her for making her so miserable; we, the people, do not OWE her a damned thing!! It is time she realized that!!

Woody you are so right. And Carville's attempt to extend the J Fred Muggs chimpanzee metaphore from Bush to Sen Obama is equally repulsive

Senator Obama's parting with Reverend Wright will only help him in the upcoming election. Why? Because he has completely severed all ties with Write while McCain has sought and still covets the likes of Televangelist John Hagee who believes the Catholic Church conspired with the Nazis and that Katrina was God's retribution for homosexual sin. Done deal: Obama wins. But Hillary Clinton? What is she going to say? "You might have served in Vietnam and suffered torture at Hanoi Hilton for our nation but I've dodged my share of imaginary bullets! Oh by they way, I was really against the war. That's why I voted for it."

Copyright Reverend Irving Wright with twenty years of Amens from Barry Obama

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us repudiate a land that's so called free,
Let us all be hateful for a land that's so called fair,
As we raise our bitter voices in a solemn prayer.

God Da-mn America,
Land that I loathe.
Stand astride her, yet despise her
With a chip on a shoulder from above.
From the plantations, up to Harvard
To the Jews rich from our blood
God Da-am America, keepin' us down down down.

I wonder if michelle is still proud of america

I'm ashamed of myself and I need to go tell my parents that I was wrong!

wrong, for supporting bush?

wrong for pushing for the Iraq Invasion?

wrong for supporting Hillary?

Wrong about what?

(you actually should be ashamed of yourself...and just to let you know, in case you get your war...the wars that you want will have consequence that you don't foresee ...just like the Iraq war, or the Lebanon invasion. If you get your way...it will be the end of ALL the earth ...including the country that you want to protect (and I don't mean U.S.A.)

you should think about it.. You're scared of Obama because he may not give you the wars that you want.... he may make peace...and that scares you... but it's the only hope....the road you're putting us on will ultimately destroy YOU (and me, and all art, all culture, ....it's a cliche, (accent), but it's true, war is not the anwser.
you should think about it

we do need a change

shalom = obama

Bush, Religious Right
Obama, Religious Wright
SOS

well, if what Kuilor2k wrote is true...we must get ready for another Bush: a wolf dressed as lamb, if he wins. I hope not.

I see a day when we will all reflect and realize that Barack Obama was not the right candidate for the presidency. We who did no know him and were caught up in the moment of the possibility of ch