The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

Bare, IN:

Past history of supporting white candidates doesn't change the fact that supporting a candidate because he's 'one of [your] own' is making a determination because of race politics. Race politics are bad for this country, and are more likely to hurt minority candidates than help them.

Blacks should support Obama because his political stands make sense to them, not because of the color of his skin.

I am so tired of black this, white that, why can't we just get along. We have lived together and died together in wars and times of need. Obama is just as white as he is black, maybe this is what we need, someone who can see both sides.

THIS NONESENSE ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS BEING RACIST SHOULD STOP.

THEY HAVE VOTED FOR WHITE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES THROUGHOUT AMERICA'S HISTORY AND EVER SINCE THEY WERE ALLOWED TO VOTE.

Why are we demonizing them for supporting one of their own?

I dont believe that the Mayor was doing anything fishy. For the comment above, this whole world is full of racist people. The Blacks that are now racist because of what they been through in the past with all the White people doing them wrong. So its now time for Clinton to drop out og the rase and unite this party like it is supposed to be united with out seeing race at all.

Gary, Indiana is full of racist blacks. Tell us something we don't know.

It's time to fold 'em Madam!

The rules of American politics have been re-written.

Newt Gingrich is already warning GOP that they are headed for disaster in November if they don't come up with a solid reform platform soon.

What's more, after losing that Louisana seat, he has cautioned them that the Wright,swift-boating model campaign has already failed.

I was going to vote for Hillary because she is from my era. I was a flower child during the late 60's and early 70's. I think Hillary and Bill have kind hearts, and mean to do what is best for America.

I am puzzled and happily surprised by Obama's success. Gary, Indiana never figures in anything State wide or National. If everyone in Gary voted for Obama it wouldn't make any difference.

Indiana is Red State and overwhelmingly white and Republican. The whole population of Lake County is a small drop in the bucket in that kracker state.

obama is a great intillegent black man and i really think he is ready to be in the white house and i dont think clinton is up for the job she cant even run her own house she cant even think about running the white house

Did you hear this dope on CNN last night, making it obvious that he was doing his best to steal an election? Another one of Obama's "friends" looking out for the candidate. This took place on CNN between 11:30 and 1:00 am when this jerk, the mayor of Gary, had a telephone exchange with the reporters. He could not give a straight answer to why he was sitting on votes all night when totals had been tallied hours before. What a nice example for the younger voters! Oh and yeah, definitely politics as usual, Chicago style. Looks like Gary, IN's mayor learned a lot from his Chicago neighbors.

Tanned Bill did not do his jon to help Hillary in North Carolina!!

He was under a sun lamp - he looked relaxed and beet red ... He knew the end was near.

"Gas Tax Holiday!!"" That went over like a lead baloon ... old politics.

Saving face: just send Hillary a PANDA BEAR and $5 million she loaned her campaign.

TRUST is what tugs at our heart when we stand alone in that polling booth!!

I am fed up with people telling us to read Obama's mother's dissertation, his wife's thesis or his father's econ. papers.

Too bloody hell with the lot.

Who is running Obama or his dead and living relatives?

The ENTIRE State of NC closed their polls after us and were able to report the votes for their ENTIRE State before Lake County. Man, this isn't just shady, this is SAD! LOL! To the person who mentioned the Chicago Way up above...you got that right!

that's no rat you smell in Gary, its the stench from hillary's a$$ on your breath.

Merci Shawn.

Allez, Allez, OBAMA!!!!

- Big, French Obama supporter living in New York.

I get amused when Clintonites call Obama racially divisive.

They are so delusional, she needs to save them from their misery by dropping out.

Sal doesn't speak for the majority of Americans. I love reading what citizens of other countries think!!!

Keep the comments coming, "Foreigners"!

(I always thought "foreigners" was un-PC. But "they" use it to describe "themselves" Hmmm. Go figure.)

Hello Sal

Please don't get offended when foreigners post here.

America is a powerful and influential country.

We can't all vote, but your policies will affect us.

And yeah - OBAMA '08!!!!!!! - WITH LOVE FROM LIBERIA

Obama did win Indiana if you deduct the Limbaugh Dittoheads who voted for Clinton to throw the race in favor.

Rest asure, the Super Delegates and the Clintons know this full well.

No shocker here in Indy, if there was any problems it would be in Gary, the Second home of the Chicago Way!

I wish foreigners would stop posting here; no offense, but we didn't get involved in your elections. This is ours; we're choosing OUR leader. He/she will represent us and his/her campaign belongs to us. You don't have a vote here and this isn't your election.

All the world is watching, America, and so hoping and praying that Change You Can Believe In will prevail! There is so much at stake both within your country and globally. I'm from Canada and looking forward to President Obama's first visit here!

Obama was well ahead in Indiana several weeks ago. It is Hillary Clinton that has pulled off a shocker, though the media chooses not to report it that way.

Thank you, Mr. Falwell. Will you be selling that rant on VHS?

Suggesting that Bill Clinton is a murderer is SO 1993. Get over it.

I would like to say welcome and thank you to all those around the world who cared enough to read (and write) in this blog.

To others, Obama may have outspent Clinton on paper. However, the Clintons had Hsu paying hundreds of thousands to political figures (such as in New Hampshire, etc.) to support her campaign. You know, the fugitive from law?

Now.... my thoughts...

Since we are all Americans and live in the same country, it would seem we were all searching for the same things: the security of our nation, both now and in the future. So it makes me question why the media is playing itself in loops about things that do not matter and ignoring those that do, namely, the security of the nation. We can tit for tat Wright and Obama associations, Clinton's associations with the Fellowship along with its Nazi originations, Rendall praising Farrakhan, McCain accepting the endorsement from Rev. John Hagee (who stated that God created Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans, as well as rallied for a pre-emptive "holy war" with Iran); Pat Roberton and Jerry Falwell blamed the 9-11 attacks not on foreign policy like Wright did, but on America's abortionists, feminists, gays and A.C.L.U. lawyers.

Wright's words are blamed on Obama even though there is a separation between church and state, and Wright as a minister can no more tell Obama what to do in politics, than Obama can tell Wright to do at the pulpit. While Wright may have said damn America, he was also in the marines and the navy.

Clinton was a draft dodger. Clinton himself led a group of protestors in Oxford, chanting, "Down with the United States" and "'Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh!" I also ask why, not once during the media's loop of Wright ever mention how patriotic it is to run for the Presidency, and to be a Constitutional lawyer, and Obama's speech at the DNC. Hilary scoffed at it as 'just a speech.' Ironically, I do feel there is some jealousy there, because when Clinton gave a speech at the DNC, it was stated to be boring.

The Clintons desecrated our precious White House while there, and took thousands of dollars in government property when they moved out. They also made it difficult if not impossible for the FBI to do their job. Hundreds walked through the White House, had access to hundreds of national security documents without national security clearances because they despised the Secret Service and the FBI, and weakened them until they couldn't do their job, including the 'suicide' of Vincent Foster.

Even if we ignore the evidence of his death, we cannot ignore the disregard of rules of security clearance as obstruction of justice. Speaking of Vincent Foster, there has been more murders and 'suicides' under Clinton than any other President. But it did not start in Washington, nor did it start in Arkansas.

In fact, while at Oxford in 1971, two of Clintons close friends committed suicide, one of which was part of "The Nationalist" Communist Party that train International terrorists ...Frank Allard was shot to death, but was ruled a suicide... Yon Couple "fell mysteriously" to his death while with Clinton. Hilary looked the other way with the sexual assault accusations (which started in England), and Clinton looked the other way with the drug trade from Columbia to the Mena airport in Arkansas.

Clinton gave 140 pardons, which includes his brother, a convicted drug dealer, Puerto Rican terrorists, and Marc Rich. When the Justice Department was reviewing Rich's paperwork, Clinton 'told them Rich was 'living abroad' instead of the truth; he was on America's most wanted list for tax evasion. Rich traded with virtually every enemy of the US, as well as traded guns for Iranian oil when the US had a trade embargo. Were Clinton's pardons a quid pro quo? It's highly suspicious when Rich's ex-wife gave millions to the Democratic National Convention, Hilary's Senate Campaign, as well as to the Clinton library. Nothing has been mentioned about Hilary's close associations with fugitive Norman Hsu who channeled contributions to other politicians supportive of her presidential campaign.

There are too many suspicions regarding illegal campaign funds, and not just with Peter Paul. It is illegal for anyone other than an American citizen to contribute towards campaign funds, yet Clinton gave military secrets to China in exchange for campaign funds. After accompanying Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra on a mining deal in Kazakhstan, Clinton was given $131.3 million for his "library." They won't give us information on donors to the library and drag their heels with their taxes, and once in office again, they will claim executive privilege.

Hillary Clinton conceived the scheme to sell trade mission seats in exchange for campaign contributions to the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign. Nolanda Hill, a business partner of Secretary Ron Brown, testified that the Clinton White House "instructed" Brown "to delay the case by withholding the production of documents prior to the 1996 elections, and to devise a way not to comply with the court's orders." Clinton administration officials deliberately concealed and destroyed records regarding the trade missions to avoid releasing them. Ron Brown, like many others in the Clinton administration, died in a suspicious plane crash.

What about voting irregularities? There already is mention of over a million Illinois voting registrations having been canceled. Where is this all in the news? Why would the media hold back from telling the truth to the American people? Is it for ratings, or are their hands tied? If this is not published, we will know.
The media has created and perpetuated the frenzy and its partiality to certain candidates while ignoring the danger of others makes me ask why. Why is the media more interesting in holding back instead of telling the truth? Does not America mean anything to anyone anymore or is the mighty dollar- which is not so mighty anymore- God?

Hilary looks the other way, former President Clinton looks the other way. The media is all we have left. And that is shaky, and Bush wants to decrease finance for PBS and NPR.

My voting line: ABC....anyone but Clinton

"Here in Britain, the average person knows two things about Hillary Clinton:

1. She gets cheated on a lot by her husband.

2. She supported the invasion of Iraq.

It's either Obama, or more of the same ugly, reckless America we've all seen far too much of in the 21st century.

Clinton or McCain will just mean more idiotic American wars. Obama means Americans have truly turned over a new leaf, or at least are ready to try.

Posted by: Kevrobb"

There in Britain, eh? Yes those ugly, reckless, 21st (???) centurty Clinton years.

Got to get past them. lol!

"Okay folks, get this. Barach WINS in Indiana!

Only 28% of the Votes in Lake Co are in;
Obama has 27,991 to Hillary's 9,470.

If those results hold in Lake Co,
when 100% of the votes are in:
Obama ends up with 99,928 votes in Lake Co
to Hillary's 24,337;

Thus, in Lake Co, Obama will lead Hillary
by 75,590 votes! easily overtaking Hillary

Posted by: KLeber"

Yeah, that was easy, KLeber.

I'm calm, you @#&!#$#$

Just kidding I'm fine, thanks. Just trying to point out the irony.

But you know, Hillary and Co have so many excuses as to her position in this race. The Blacks, the media, the elites, the college students, the money, the caucuses, the small states, the big states, the Judas, the Florida, the Michigan, the good speeches, the sexism, the lattes and so on and so forth.

Clinton is a heavily flawed candidate. Obama is flawed, but not nearly as much so. Yeah, she might have experience, but Obama has qualities she doesn't have. The voters chose his qualities over her's. It's that simple. Of course there's no reason she should admit that, but her supporters need to remember that the idea is to find the best candidate. Not to pick someone and act as her advocate. If people want to pick her because she's a woman, that's fine, but its not a good reason to start making intellectually dishonest statements about Obama. I've heard so many people claim he's played the race card, yet no one can give a specific example of when he's done so. Same with his so-called negative campaigning.

Oh, by the way, anyone who thinks the popular vote totals for Michigan mean a damn thing is an idiot.

Hey John Martin

Thanks for that update. However, I'm finding it hard to believe that the CNN Election Center overlooked the Gary stats.

Could they really have called it for Billary before hearing from Gary?

Here in Britain, the average person knows two things about Hillary Clinton:

1. She gets cheated on a lot by her husband.

2. She supported the invasion of Iraq.

It's either Obama, or more of the same ugly, reckless America we've all seen far too much of in the 21st century.

Clinton or McCain will just mean more idiotic American wars. Obama means Americans have truly turned over a new leaf, or at least are ready to try.

WOW,
Here are the numbers.....Obama is behind by 22,000, yet Gary hasn't been counted yet. Here are the Gary numbers. About 80,000 voters of whom 80% are black. If say he gets 40,000 and she gets 10,000 he will win and that doesn't even count the 11,000 provisional ballots. If 90% of black voters are going to Obama AND this particullar black city is just a few miles from his home town of Chicago, I can't imagine how he won't pick up 22,000 votes. See ya in the morning.....

Hey Ddawd

Relax; as somebody said above, blacks have voted for whites for decade after decade.

Why should we criticize them this time if the candidate that captures their aspirations this time happens to be black?

Were they being racist when they overwhelmingly voted for Bill in the past?

"but the 90% IS extreme, and cant be explained by issues, 10% or so above or below average could be explained by other factors, but having 91%.... no.. its not issues, its race"

Wouldn't the 91% indicate its something more than JUST race? Unless by race you're referring to the perception of Bill's race baiting? That probably played a big role, don't you think?

By the way, whatever happened to Michael Steele?

I can deeply sense your caring for both your mom and the country's problems. I truly believe you'd be happy with Obama's presidency, though, since he has plans for the health care issue also.
God bless you! Wish there were more people out there with your depth of empathy. Sleep well.

Hey it's been fun talking with you, but i need sleep, Bye folks.

Andrew is right again.

Hillary does spend money to get out the vote. She WENT BANKRUPT GETTING OUT THE VOTE IN IOWA WITH SANDWICH PLATTERS!!!

I'm with you on the old Gore situation...

sorry im impatient its nearly 4 am here. i care because of healthcare, people like my mom, who is at work because she cant afford it, and needs insurance, and work is making hear problems worse, making her need insurance, catch 22, and the economy, where i think both candidates would do fine, NOT because the candidate is just so 'Likeable' or because theyre just so 'Great at campaigning', forget that, i care about real problems.

dag, you truly have my heartfelt sympathies, for real. You seem like a stand up guy/gal....don't quit, really, things in this country will look up...

For all my dislike of Hillary Clinton (I could list a hundred reasons for preferring Obama) I would vote for her in a general election (just don't let the polling agencies know that). McCain's tax plan is disgusting.

Ftw. I'm out.

dag, I've been volunteering for Barack making phone calls to Indiana/NC for the past few weeks. You're correct about the transport situation, but the transport paid for by the campaign was available for anyone. You didn't have to say you were voting for Obama to get a ride to the polls. They didn't do a Q & A session before they allowed you in the van, for goodness sake, to see if you were a Hillary, McCain, or Barack voter.
It's all about great organizing by the campaign, a tremendous sign of what Barack can do for this country.
Read up more on this...no one disputes, including Clinton supporters, that Barack had a more organized campaign. It's a given; it's all over the media and acknowledged on both sides. Unfortunately, Mrs. Clinton overestimated her appeal and 'brand name', but didn't organize well, especially in the early stages and in regards to the 'lowly' caucuses she didn't pay much attention to. Shame on her; if she had, she probably would have had a chance.

Thank you america for choosing sanity and the future with Obama. Most of the democratic world does not hate america, we are just terrified of Bush & the neocons. America need once again to be a beacon of hope and democracy for the western world. I hope Obama will come to Norway on his first european tour. I guarantee people will show up in the millions to greet Obama all over the world. His likability and trust all over the world is not even a factor in your election.
God bless america

Obama 08

Sure. I doubt they threw off the results of whole states though. im just tired of this system, ever since gore lost (note, had popular majority)

Well then Bill Clinton and Hillary are the ballot manipulators because they paid these political machines to "get out the vote" while Obama has not.

Hm... that is interesting.. but, I still can't help but think it is all bull****. it sounds really good, but doesnt mean anything. The economy is important, and so is health care. oh well.

Thats not better, that's ballot manipulation.

You don't think Hillary uses her campaign money to "get out the vote" too? She probably uses a lot of money to get the elderly to the polls. Also Obama has refused to give money to local political machines (while Bill Clinton did). The machines used to use this money to pay people to go door to door (Hillary went door to door back in the 60s for her candidate btw) but Obama has done this using volunteers.

Also, Obama has not received money from PACS, while Hillary has. Also, his average campaign contribution is smaller than hers (an indication she has more people "giving the maximum").

dag - That's not shady, it's called good campaigning. The first day I canvassed for Obama in my hometown of Charlottesville, VA, I was in a predominantly black neighborhood. The next day I was in a predominantly white neighborhood. As far as giving people rides to the polls, every party does it, every candidate does it. Obama, being a community worker, is just better at it and has a more strongly motivated crew (which incidentally has more volunteers and fewer paid workers than Hillary). Barack's not shady, he's just better.

it just toasted my post..
i will retype it.

Yes, i think both african americans and whites are both racist, i dont care atm. The relevant issue here is that it was manipulated to get huge amounts of votes. the reason they had 'a lot of absentee ballots' like the shady mayor of gary county stuttered out repeatedly, was not because they had people out of town or other real reasons for an absentee ballot. the reason was because the city was raked for votes. people went door to door from 'get out the vote'..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_out_the_vote
..
these people were here in my apartment complex too, looking to get people to the polls. they use absentee ballots and escorting people to the polls who they know will vote for their candidate. so no, im not saying 'its not fair because black people are racist'. im saying 'Obama's campaign strategy is to manipulate the primaries by using their racism, and get-out-the-vote'. oh and btw his hot air about lobbyists is bunk. he takes money from them all the time, they are just state-level lobbyists instead of washington lobbyists, which has already been mentioned here.

I think noone here is changing one another's opinions, but yes, i think both white and black people are racist, but i think taking advantage of that to win an election is really underhanded, and this is only relevant atm because of this mayor clay being the most shady person ive seen in months, like a crackhead. my point is that the obama campaign used manipulative techniques to get votes. i dont think 90% of african americans wanted to vote for obama, i think 100% of the people obama targeted 'get out the vote' to were african american, and it led to the extreme african american 'turnout' (absentee ballots sent door to door, people shipped directly to the polls so they could vote) they were all known obama supporters who were basically assisted with voting to the point a four-year-old could have done it.

Interesting (though just slightly biased):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VeKppnBJ6U

Also PA is Appalachia. Which leaves her CA and NY (home state).

He lies/halftruths about lobbyists .
Bill hurts Hillary's chances, not helps them.

Hi Wieste,
Nice of you to join in the nomination celebration...where in the Netherlands are you from?
Here's hoping you get to see him there on his world-wide rock star tour :)

Also PA is Appalachia. Which leaves her CA and NY (home state).

Now that outsiders are already planning Obama's itinerary...I'll give a shout out for my country too.

OBAMA VISIT THE NETHERLANDS WHEN YOU ARE PRESIDENT!!!

You seem to be gaining rock star status around the world.

Posted by: Wieste | May 7, 2008 2:56 AM
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Dank u welle! :-)

Just so long as he doesn't visit the Bulldog in Amsterdam. ;-)

"Hillary also won California, New York, Pensylvania, etc. but the 90% IS extreme, and cant be explained by issues, 10% or so above or below average could be explained by other factors, but having 91%.... no.. its not issues, its race, and the practice of spending millions on getting afican american voes. Hillary Clinton didn't, to the best of my knowledge, spend millions sending people door-to-door collecting senior citizens and latino voters, just to make sure she had 100% of their willing votes. (sure the other few percent would be unwilling, but who cares, as the one with money for this wins, right?)"

Yes 90% is extreme. But you missed my original point about the numbers not mattering. If Hillary was cleaning house.. and 50% of blacks voted Obama, and 90% of whites voted Clinton.. would that make whites racist? The actual numbers have nothing to do with it because you can't conclude peoples REASONS for voting by comparing relative vote preferences between demographics.

The fact remains, that from the numbers alone, all you can conclude is either 90% of blacks are racist against Hillary OR 60% of whites are racist against Obama. You can't conclude decisively without examining peoples reasons for voting. You can get a sense of this from exit polling.. in which aprox. equal numbers of Obama and Clinton supporters say race was a factor in their decision. But even that doesn't tell you much because people are not likely to admit being racist.

Point being: numbers CANNOT prove causality.

Anon @ 2.50; please stop comparing Obama's budget to Clinton's.

a) He has not only raised more; he has used it wisely (good future manager of national economy).

b)HE WAS NOT MARRIED TO BILL AND HAD TO SPEND MORE TO GET VOTERS TO KNOW HIM.

If he gets elected, where else will disenfranchised Americans go!? No.. stay out of the Netherlands... and Canada too :)

Now that outsiders are already planning Obama's itinerary...I'll give a shout out for my country too.

OBAMA VISIT THE NETHERLANDS WHEN YOU ARE PRESIDENT!!!

You seem to be gaining rock star status around the world.

Hillary also won California, New York, Pensylvania, etc. but the 90% IS extreme, and cant be explained by issues, 10% or so above or below average could be explained by other factors, but having 91%.... no.. its not issues, its race, and the practice of spending millions on getting afican american voes. Hillary Clinton didn't, to the best of my knowledge, spend millions sending people door-to-door collecting senior citizens and latino voters, just to make sure she had 100% of their willing votes. (sure the other few percent would be unwilling, but who cares, as the one with money for this wins, right?)

Great point, Andrew, even though I think we're the only ones left here :) I appreciate that info also...

Andrew thanks for your well reasoned argument.

There is no pride in winning the white vote in traditionally prejudical states.

Obama will win in November; in January, he will visit Australia where we don't care about big states and small states, caucus states and vote states etc.

To the accusations out there that blacks are racist because 90% vote for Obama:

The percent of black/white people voting for a black/white doesn't prove anything. It could be that the 60% of white people that voted for Hillary are the racists and if they weren't racist they would have voted for Obama. Look at the numbers.. Hillary does well with the white vote in guess where?

-the Jim Crow South
-Appalachia (most backwards, racist part of the country)

While Obama has won the white vote in places like:

-WI, CT, VT, IA, IL

So while Obama consistently wins the black vote, Hillary wins the white vote in traditionally backwards racist areas, and loses it in parts of the country that historically have not had the same race relation tensions.

After checking everywhere, I believe Just Released is probably a hoax. If not, he/she got confused with Bill Richardson from New Mexico's withdrawal from the Presidential race.
Seems a stretch, though. Believe it was tom-foolery. So much for the increased respect for Hillary. Did one good thing, though...cleared many of the Clinton supporters from here rather quickly :)

Did anyone hear Rudy Clay on CNN? Wow...talk about a couple brain cells short.

He embarrassed himself and his entire city.

Rudy Clay, how many fingers am I holding up?
We had a lot of early voter ballots.
Hey Rudy, what day of the week is it?
We had a lot of early voter ballots.

Thanks for the followup, hmmm. I'll try CNN next, but yes, my respect would definitely go up for her. Let's hope...

Just Released...I went to RCP and didn't see it there. It's been my fave site for updates. If you're still around, can you tell me where it's located? Thanks

I agree that Hillary has a better chance against Mccain. I also think she has a much better stance on issues, but people forget about those.

BOTTOM LINE - OBAMA CARRIED THE NIGHT

He was expected to lose in Indiana but he braved the storm.

As for Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania; Clinton was ahead by double digits in all those states. What happened?

Some Americans are beyond rescue from ignorance.

People who have lived amongst their own relatives can't fathom a person with a mixed heritage who chooses to be Christian.

They are still worried about Obama being a Muslim...the damned ignoramuses!!!

delusional much?

I can't find any info about her withdrawing so I don't know if that is true. But I have to say that when I read it, my level of respect for her went up just a little bit. I would be floored if she actually thought of her party and not herself.

Whoops..was so excited by the news I failed to see the source you posted...running over to CNN right now. Thanks for the heads up!

Just released...are you serious? Where did you get that incredibly wonderful piece of info? I really cannot believe she saw the light either!

You may choose the lesser of two evils, but in the end, you Did choose evil. buhbye.

I want to point out, that we are back to were we where when Hillary won Texas and Ohio....Her win in Pennsylvania and now Indiana has basically matched Obama's win in North Carolina. He basically won North Carolina due to the HIGH percentage of African-Americans who voted for him of course....i really believe that this contest will go all the way to the convention.....as Hillary is going to win West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico , Montana and maybe South Dakota....still by then, neither will have enough delegates.....and honestly I do believe Hillary is the stronger candidate against McCain in the fall....If Obama can't close this race with Hillary in the Primaries, what change will he have in the general election????

I think the superdelegates really need to take a good look at the exit polls in each contest, and weigh up who will be the better candidate in the general election. If the democrats want the White House back they are going to need the middle class blue collar workers to win it back....and the exit polls in each contest has shown Clinton winning more of their votes.....and that's important and that needs to be looked at as well....

I like Obama, but he isn't qualified for the job yet, I think he needs more time in the senate and get more experience.....he could run again in 2012.....i do like what he stands for etc.....but its not his time

It really does suck....The Democratic party should not have left history's first hopeful woman and first hopeful African-American ran at the same time.....its a real shame when you think about, either one is going to make history and both are running to make history at the same time.....sucks

Obama made a threat to invade Pakistan.

Posted by: John Gio | May 7, 2008 1:53 AM
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Apples and rocks, John. Obama threatened to make a limited strike in Pakistan to take a threat to America if the Pakistanis couldn't or wouldn't. Clinton threated to "obliterate" Iran in case of a nuclear strike on Israel, killing millions of civilians - essentially the idea of killing the daughter of the man who killed your daughter multiplied by millions. If doing that on a personal level is considered barbaric, how about doing it a million times over?

I counted all the posts.

Hillary - 41
Obama - 34

Obama can't even close this message board.

Posted by: Jon | May 7, 2008 2:08 AM

That's because Obama supporters are fast asleep having sweet dreams of the nomination, while the Clintonistas get drunk and vent their rage to each other on message boards.

Sad, really.

William JIV, enough already, she WON! Relax...take your .7 percent 'win' and be comforted by it, at the very least.
Good, great last comment to Ron. My sentiments exactly.

HRC announcing her intent to withdraw from the Democratic primary contest tomorrow and endorse her opponent Barack Obama.

Press conference scheduled for 10am Eastern. Details on CNN/RCP.

I can't believe it...she saw the light.

I counted all the posts.

Hillary - 41
Obama - 34

Obama can't even close this message board.

I am voting for McCain. I may disagree with him, but he is a war hero. Obama is just too wishy washy. I agree with Ron on his disloyalty to his paster, the Rev. Wright.

Again, to all Obama supporters-Name 1 accomplishment by this fraud.

He defeated friggin' Alan Keyes for his senate seat. What a joke.

Posted by: John Gio | May 7, 2008 1:32 AM
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Ummh - he defeated Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination? Just a guess. :D

Posted by: treetopflyer | May 7, 2008 1:41 AM

treetopflyer, I laughed so hard when I saw your post I peed my pants.

Well done.

John, isn't it past your bedtime? Really...go cry in your pillow, it'll make you feel better. Don't worry, Barack will be even your President, too.

Rehen, gotcha this time 'round. Good point, can't say I disagree.

Mayor Clay wouldn't be trying his hand at implementing some "new math" in Gary, would he?

Gary and East Chicago are notorious for linking up with the old-style Chicago political machine. This alleged delay due to absentee ballots is a bit suspicious and a little to convenient IMO.

Fact: If Obama is selected my wife and I
will not be voting in the general election
for the first time in history.

Posted by: Ron | May 7, 2008 1:51 AM

Good...don't taint our election with your negativity. You and your wife can just sit home on your fat butts and waste your votes like millions of other Americans. Just remember: If you don't vote, you lose your voice, so you can't complain.

Something tells me that would be impossible for you.

Roy, I am with you. Mr. Obama will never be able to redeem himself for turning on his pastor. It was simply unforgivable to us poor sinners. But, I will try to forgive him. It just shows the Mr. Obama has a character problem and that does not sit well with me.

Obama has no soul. I voted for him in California, but I will not do it again. I am very upset that Obama turned against his minister who played such an important part in his family's spiritual life. It was sickening to see Obama give that speech against the honorable Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright has brought thousands of people of all colors to Christ and did not deserve such disrespect and hatred from Obama. I am pulling for Hillary.

Regarding the comments:

Math does not lie, but the media can hide the truth. Much of the 'mud' that Senator Obama and Senator Clinton had in the past month were known in 2007...

Had this information been made known prior to Super Tuesday in FEBRUARY-- it would not be an issue. 'Ditto' for the reasons for moving the MI and FL primaries.

Lastly, in the Time 100 most influential issue, there is mention with the article on Senator Obama that in Illinois, there is no maximum contribution. If accurate, then when Obama had the 'speculation on running for the nomination', he could collect as much $$ from patrons as possible. With millions in his warchest, he could then invoke the grassroots message for interested (anti-Hillary) supporters.

I can understand hating the Bush regime, but putting the phrase "we're tired of Bushs and the Clintons" is lumping apples and oranges together. Clinton was not as horrible as Bush, and the nation did have respectable prosperity. Perhaps 'Big Oil or Business' didn't have their windfall profits, but more people were provided a chance to achieve the American Dream (including Sen. Obama!). The indiscretions regarding Bill were of a personal nature (and though irrelevant they're still lumped in with Sen. Hillary's campaign). If you're kind to review the previous articles, then we're familiar with how the so-called 'race card' was NOT thrown by the Clintons first. All I humbly ask is that creditable information be made known in due time...

...otherwise we may end up with a Manchurian Candidate for the Democratic Nominee.

Oh, and the Iraq concern....

Here's an article with a Cheney argument made to John Edwards that might have given Senator Obama (his distant cousin) an advantage to knock out most of the competition in the earlier debates (that, and unbalanced media coverage!):

http://www.factcheck.org/cheney_edwards_mangle_facts.html

Supers-- PLEASE do your homework.

And continue to fight Senator Clinton ;)!

"Obama has lost ALL the large state primaries-CA, NY, NJ, MA, PA, TX, OH, except Il."

Oh, you mean the states where Hill spent ALL of her money (and then some) while Obama implemented his successful 50 state strategy???

CA, NY, NJ, & MA will go blue no matter who the candidate is. In a recent poll, PA still picked Obama over McCain in the general. And BTW, Obama won TX.

The nonpartisan National Journal voted Obama the MOST LIBERAL senator in 2007. More liberal than Bernie Sanders, and he's a socialist.

RON.......write in ron paul, don't just not vote......use it as a way of showing we aren't happy with the options we were given......a protest...

any ways.....

Obama supporters cut and paste from Obama's website. Pathetic.

Doesn't that laundry list inspire you?

And yet Obama made a threat to invade Pakistan.

Whew is right! I'm so glad he lost by a 1/2 OF 1 PERCENT! That way, no flack about rigged elections will be kicked up. Yes, he lost, but he won!

I can't be happier! I'll look forward to shaking his hand in Denver at the convention.

Again, GREAT to see all of you folks from Russia, France, Spain, and Canada coming by to celebrate with us :)

Did anyone ever help Linda and the others who needed their medication?? :)

Fact: If Obama is selected my wife and I
will not be voting in the general election
for the first time in history.

not to be racist, but i think a rapper or athlete would have a better chance of winning this fantastic election, but more seriously, the get out the vote people were at my apartment building today looking left and right for the only black guy that lives here, carrying pamphlets, obviously trying to get a vote out of him. i was on the porch and a couple others, but he just read off names of black people looking for them, and when they werent around, he left all the white people, looking for more likely (90% likely?) votes. get out the vote is just like it always was, when it meant "throw out the opponent's votes" only now it's done by skewing the results positively for your own self, rather than negatively for the opponent. it is sick politics, and i think it is why the primaries have gone this way.

Please don't drag Jimmy Carter into this one. If that old fart doesn't stop hanging around terrorists, he's going to drag the whole Democratic party down. Of course, Barak has an unrepentent and unpunished terrorist as a close friend. I love Barak but the Republican 527's can taste his blood already. Pray.

Couldn't agree more with the European comments being posted here. Don't worry about Obama, worry about your continent being overrun by muslim fanatics.

Was nice to see Ken Livingstone lose in London. First conservative mayor of London in 30 years.

Since you asked...

State Senate :

Added health insurance for 20,000 children

Earned income tax credit, increased minimum wage ($5.15 to $6.50)

Death penalty reform requiring interrogations be video taped passed Senate 58-0, signed to law by governor who first opposed Obama's bill.

Sponsored bill probing police profiling.

Obama opposed Iraq war publically, long before the invasion.

U.S. Senate :

Worked with Republican Senator Lugar to expand and author program to locate & dismantle stray Russian WMD's left over
from the cold war after the disbanding of the USSR.

Jan. 2007, major ethics/lobbying reform bill, w/ Russ Feingold: Insisted tougher measures banning lobbyist gifts/ meals/ jets, disclosure of earmark & contribution bundling to candidates or committees; restricts retiring Congress from going into lobbying

Obama cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John McCain. Passed 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who
have been here 5+ years able to stay and apply for citizenship, if they pay back taxes, learn English and have no criminal
record.

Outlined increased fuel efficiency standards (3% / year)

Something is not right in Gary, and I don't know what it is yet. The timing of the election results, the manner in which the results came in, and the lame excuse of absentee ballot counting that I heard Mayor Rudy Clay giving to CNN correspondants. As the reason for the delays in reporting, it raises suspicion of something improper to me.

Jimmy Carter was set up by the Republicans. Think about it how was it they didn't kill the hostages? Old Washington needs an enima.

NO COFFEE FOR OBAMA. Coffee is only for closers.

Obama's White Problem

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r8gnmUyminI

Love the international comments on here tonight.

"pity I can't vote for Obama" from the woman in Denmark.

Listen...with Islamofacists breathing down your necks there, maybe you need to take care of your own business politically.

I was in Germany for awhile in 2004, and NO ONE there thought GWB had a chance against the "more-esteemed" John Kerry.

Get a clue. Get a grip. and
Get ready, Europe....for McCain.

Sorry...but there it is.

Now go back to bed.

i saw a foreigner post something about how we will look to the world is dependent on who we elect.....who the hell are you?, and why would we care what you think?

next item.....all you fools are doing is creating a divide in your own party. keep it up, and you'll get exactly what you don't want, a McCain presidency.

hillary will still campaign, they have more money to launder.lol

artillery hillary isn't out of shells.....so you all keep infighting,

if anyone else cant stand the candidates, go back, check out RON PAULS website, and WRITE HIM IN on election day. the grass roots campaign starts here...lol spread the word!

for those of you voting electronically, and you cant write him in.....then the matrix already has you.....lol

follow the white rabbit.....

knock knock neo.....

Obama is the Jimmy Carter of the new century. I wouldn't trust him with my country. He is weak and he even demonized his own preacher. At his core, Barack is jello. And, he is hanging around a known terrorist named Ayres. What a fool!

pss... Hill take John Gio with you...

Again, to all Obama supporters-Name 1 accomplishment by this fraud.

He defeated friggin' Alan Keyes for his senate seat. What a joke.

Posted by: John Gio | May 7, 2008 1:32 AM
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Ummh - he defeated Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination? Just a guess. :D

Obama has lost ALL the large state primaries-CA, NY, NJ, MA, PA, TX, OH, except Il.

Obama has LOST EVERY state with a large hispanic population- CA, AZ, NM, NV, TX, FL, NY, NJ.

Obama won caucauses in states he has no chance of winning.

If Obama is for the middle class, how come only the rich, latte-drinking Democrats and money-sucking college kids are voting for him? Of course, the brothers always vote for the brother. Obama hates the middle class, just like his talked about them in such derogatory terms in that San Francisco mansion! The REAL middle class is for Hillary, not the jokers on the federal dole who swam out of the New Orleans projects after Katrina.

Sorry DJ in Denver...You missed my point. My point was that they were obviously sitting on the votes until the end in Lake County... Not a good way to win no matter who the candidate is...

The racial demonization from the Clinton camp backfired--the American people got sickened and disgusted by it. They're more sophisticated these days--they've seen the Blues Brothers movie--they know that a rockin, rip-roaring, fire and brimstone black church service is not going to end up with some white person being sacrificed on the altar or thrown into a giant soup kettle! And, in the 2016 presidential race the candidates (and yes! there will be women--several!) will have to compete on their merits and policy ideas--what a concept! Let go of your fear! A brave new day has dawned in America!

I live in Idaho where less than 2% of the population is black. We held our caucuses on Super-Duper Tuesday and Obama won with 79% of the vote statewide, his biggest margin of victory in the U.S. thus far.

Obama's popularity is not about race, it's about hope. Hope that even a traditionally red state like Idaho can turn blue if enough people get involved in the process.

Hillary, perhaps you could get yourself on the view. Have Linda and Ron as your guests and cry for what could have been. Ask not what you can get everybody to do for you. Ask yourself do I know who's bed Bill is in tonight? Try grocery shopping, buy the gas you want to give a penny off on. White Water Gate is your October Suprize... The Truth will win out. Change will happen and Barack and John will work together to throw all of your friends out of Washington Republican and Democrat alike. Go into that dark night Hill GO GO GO

Barack Hussein Obama is fraud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=928_TLwSl1I&feature=related

Nobody is talking about the 3.5 million NEW Democrat voters Obama has energized out of political apathy - e.g., young voters, college students, even older people who have given up on politics as usual. Don't forget to put those into the mix and President Obama may not be as far fetched a reality as some nay-sayers think.
What, you want another Clinton? I feel sorry for Chelsea, she didn't choose her parentage ... Neither Hillary NOR the former President have any integrity, values they are willing to stand for (other than building their own powerbase and getting more $$$), nor do they have a "true" bone in their body [they wouldn't know what the truth was if it bit them in the ... "YOU can't handle the truth!!"]

Obama can't close against Hillary. He certainly won't be about to close against McCain, who is really an independent.

I imagine that Hillary's REAL win tonight will give the superdelegates something to consider versus Obama's fake win (got a 90% black, no-thinker vote in NC).

Again, to all Obama supporters-Name 1 accomplishment by this fraud.

He defeated friggin' Alan Keyes for his senate seat. What a joke.

The only bitter people in this race are the Obamas. Barack calling small town folk in Pennsylvania bitter people who cling to guns and religion. Michelle saying she has never been proud of America. She went to an Ivy League school. The Obamas are millionaires.

Michelle Obama made thousands as a board member of TreeHouse Foods Inc., a Wal-Mart vendor. Hypocrite!!!!!!

who ever wins the presidency gets to run the greatest country on the planet. I'm proud of my country all you people on here from other countries crying about americas image crack me up as soon as your ass is in sling you all come to us with your hands out screw the lot of ya

Name one Obama accomplishment? Well there was that cease fire in the Niger Delta. No sniper fire involved though.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Meanwhile_in_his_spare_time.html

Hey John Gio: You be sure then to vote for John "Manchurian Candidate" McCain in November! The '50-Years-War' candidate who will make sure that your Grandkids get sent to the Persian Gulf to fight for Exxon, Conoco and Shell Oil. Ah yes. President McCain just think he may be almost as dottering a President as Ronald "I just can't remember that" Reagan was. Pathetic. The United States is going to Hell on a fast train before our very eyes and history.

A bit of information...

About the 2008 Election:

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/PDFfiles/2008Election.pdf

AND The MI and FL votes should count:

http://www.alternet.org/election08/80993/?page=5

"Obama can't close the deal!!!

He outspent Clinton 3 to 1 in Pennsylvania.

He outspent Clinton 2 to 1 in Indiana."

No, it is Clinton who cannot close the deal. Obama just weathered the worst 2 weeks in his entire campaign, while Cinton enjoyed her best 2 weeks. And yet, she won a state comprised of her key constituents by 1% of the vote.

Math doesn't lie...he hammered her (again) in delegates tonight and his popular vote numbers grew.

Enough with the sour grapes.

Gia - You're the one who's pathetic. If he hadn't "thrown Wright under the bus" you'd be bellowing about how he still won't denounce his racist preacher. Quit trying to have it both ways.

Clinton is toast.
Obama's the nominee.
He'll be our president.

Get

Used

To

It.

Obama can't close.

Give it a rest, Linda. Comments like yours are charming but even a good republican like you must be sensitive enough to know when you should keep your fat mouth shut.

Obama a divided, not a uniter.

Listen to Michelle, 'America is a selfish country, I've never been proud of America', Obama.

Surrender Hillary!

I'm an ex-republican, now an Independent. I don't understand you Dems at all. Hillary losing, so you'd rather vote for the guy who is going to keep putting the screws to you on taxes and giving the rich a tax holiday?! I'm one of the psuedo-rich, at least by relative standards (it sure doesn't feel like it though); I just happen to side with Buffet and Gates on this topic. You are going to vote for the guy who continues to isolate America vs the World, when we could have (did have) an army of allies to help us lead the World in a period of Pax Americana? Obama is the only rational choice I can see, from so many perspectives.

Obama's rise is an illusion, fueled only by the black vote, such is as seen in many downtrodden US cities. He couldn't even cut a gas tax to rebate drivers $20 a month and he wants to cut middle class taxes? Who cannot see through his lies?

the whole get-out-the-vote idea was dirty, because it skews results away from public opinion, other than gary indiana's public opinion. it would make sense and get more realisitic results, but only gary indiana is going to the extremes of causing it to take past 1 in the morning of the following day of the primary there. if every other city went door to door raking votes, then the elections would cost a fortune, and be a nightmare. oh and people overseas do have a mixed opinion also. and this whole election is overly based on demographics rather than issues. if the choices are obama and mccain, im not voting.

"McCain POW for 5 years.
Obama in senate for 3 years.

Enough said."

This argument is silly, do you realize that? What does being a prisoner of war for 5 years actually do for you? Maybe it makes you bitter; maybe it gives you a lot of time to think about your family. But how does it make you a better candidate? Please, seriously, I challenge you to explain.

Obama can't close the deal!!!

He outspent Clinton 3 to 1 in Pennsylvania.

He outspent Clinton 2 to 1 in Indiana.

Exit polls are done AFTER the vote, not TWO MONTHS prior. Also, they are utilizing Voting Machines...and Robert Kennedy, Jr. did an article about how they can be fixed. Absentee Ballots will need to be examined if there is a challenge to the results (I wouldn't blame Senator Clinton if one was done!). In Texas, the count for the caucus signatures were not completed (perhaps it was 35 percent at best!), so I wouldn't be surprised if there are inconsistencies going on....but NOW I'm thankful that Hillary squeaked out a win.

Thank you for the opportunity to post.

Obama threw his own pastor under the bus! He is pathetic! He has no backbone and bowed down to Sean Hannity!!! This guy wants to be President? Even Bush wouldn't done such an act of absolute betrayal.

McCain POW for 5 years.
Obama in senate for 3 years.

Enough said.

treetop: "A squeaker for Clinton. Never thought I'd say this but WHEW! The last thing Obama needed after finally getting the wind back in his sails was allegations, true or not, of ballot rigging."

Smart comment...great point.

Sheesh - the arrogance (or is it IGNORANCE?) of some people on these forums - like JILL who thinks she knows what the rest of the WORLD wants, and Ana Naggy who believes her!!

Give some folks internet access and suddenly they are WORLDLY SCHOLARS and PHILOSOPHERS!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

congrats to both candidates' showings, however, Obama has campaigned well considering what he went through with the many distractions these past three weeks.
congrats! and thank God American's of good will can overlook and separate the sense from the nonsense

Kennedy had 'won' by less than 1% of the vote. People DID not feel great about Kennedy or the world at that point. We were in the middle of the Cold War. Kennedy got us into Vietnam. His VP-turned prez Johnson totally committed us there with the Gulf of Tokin 'incident'.

I'd love to watch that screaming loony Linda in a zoo cage. People like her are funny when you encounter them on the street between their hospital incarcerations. Makes walking to work bearable.

Yo, Yo honorship - what happend? Maybe we win West Virginia next Tusday. Hillry ahead by 30%. We can take it though. Word.

Yo, Yo honorship - what happend? Maybe we win West Virginia next Tusday. Hillry ahead by 30%. We can take it though. Word.

Obama needs to develop a swag in his walk
Posted by: EScott | May 6, 2008 11:22 PM

EScott..you have a point and you are onto something nobody has mentioned.....

Obama needs a tough walk, Have you seen Putin walk? We in Russia call it the "Putin walk"!!

Go Obama 08...Russia is behind you!

Gary mayor is an idiot. CNN asked him four or five times why lake county didn't release machine result incrementally like every other county did. He didn't seem to understand the question. He repeated this excuse they were counting absentee ballots.

Something smells really bad here. Some legal investigation needs to be conducted. Why did it take so long to release any precinct result? Is this the kind of South Side Chicago dirty politics we are going to get if Obama gets elected?

"Obama fails to close the deal again. All he had to do was win Indiana - he is a failure"

Actually, HILLARY is the one who has failed to close the deal. She cannot win numerically; she needed to make a huge splash here so that she could make a decent argument that she should be the nominee. She won by 1%. That's nowhere near a strong enough splash. She can't close the deal -- she's too weak to close the deal. She'll keep fighting on in these states but she'll continue to see close races, which means Obama will maintain his lead and come out on top. Hillary's only chance is winning BIG --- BIG BIG. And she failed to do that tonight. The superdelegates will flock to Barack.

I am hoppinh mad let me tell you. All you mud people ARE MAKIN ME SICK BY VOTING FOR O'BLACKUM JUST BECAUSE HE IS YOUR SAME COLOR AND LIMITED INTELLIGENCE, YOU *HOLE ISLAMISISTS! THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL AND IT IS YOU PEOPLES FAULTS THAT GOD'S PEOPLE CAN NOT GET AHEAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU FREE RIDES IN THE FORMS OF WELFARE ALL DAY LONG. WE COULD OF WON THIS WAR EXCEPT FOR YOU MONKEYS AND GORILAS COSTING US TO MUCH IN TAXES AND WE CANNOT FIGHT AGAINST SATAN BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY'S MILITAIRY CAN NOT BUY THE RIGHT KIND OF WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Linda | May 7, 2008 1:09 AM

anyone else for the reinstitution of eugenics? Anyone.....? Linda's parents, please fix your 10 year old daughter's internet permissions....thank you...

"These people want you and I dead."

No they don't. They want you and me dead. Learn proper English (hint: "and"'s a red herring).

COFFEE IS ONLY FOR CLOSERS! Obama is not a closer!!!!!!

Well, well, CNN has called Indiana for Hillary, and Lake County turned out just 55-45 for Obama. So all those theorists of the giant Black vote conspiracy can apologise now. The precincts that caused the big delay in Lake County were the ones that went for Hillary.

I have to say it's a relief because we'd all be harmed by more destructive sniping (forgive the expression) from the Clinton camp, claiming electoral fraud without a shred of evidence as they were getting ready to do.

Ummmm Linda.....

Cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo.

How dare you spew your racist hatred and dare to call yourself one of "God's people."

Your rational is that we are losing the Iraq war because of people in our country on welfare?????

What is it like on your planet? Obviously, there isn't enough oxygen.

Let me guess, you don't have all of your front teeth do you?

To all Obama supporters-name 1 accomplishment!

Let's not forgot how on March 18, Obama said he could not disown Wright anymore than he could disown the black community or his grandmother. As soon as his poll numbers started to tank, he disowned Wright. He's a fraud. He stayed in that racist church for 20 years. If he was not running for president, he'd still be there.

This is not an opinionated article, post is pulling for Obama, these are simple facts. Gary is next door to south side Chicago, Obama's home. The location & demographics is favorable for Obama.

John, Kennedy was no angel, but people felt good about the state of the country and world while he was our President.

A squeaker for Clinton. Never thought I'd say this but WHEW! The last thing Obama needed after finally getting the wind back in his sails was allegations, true or not, of ballot rigging.

A bit of an irony tonight. Barack loses Indiana, so he wins. Hillary wins Indiana, so she loses. She almost had another stick to bludgeon him with, but thank you Indiana for voting for Hillary!

Now don't forget to vote for Obama Nov. 4th. :-)

You people keep bringing up "over 4000 dead soldiers in Iraq" as the reason we are losing this war.

First of all these men and women signed on of their own free will to join the US Military. Secondly, I really find it hard to believe that any liberal gives a crap about how many soldiers we lose. It is just a convenient political tool. Most of the men and women who are fighting for us believe in what they are doing and have chosen to be there. They are warriors and they long for the battle. I am a disabled Vet and I would go right now if doctors could put me back together. My brother has served 3 tours and is going back again in 6 months. He wants to go.

These people want you and I dead. We fight because it is in our nature and our calling. Let us win this war already and quit using us a your pawns in this pathetic political power play.

The US chose the battlefield. Would you rather we wait for them to become strong enough to fight us here?

Lake County doesn't have enough Obama votes left to make a difference.

Drag and drop -- won't be able to close out Hillary tonight.

Linda, you need mental health counseling and please stay away frm firearms. I am sure you are on the CIA watch list...

gREAT nEWS Obama and camp were not able to steal the election in Indiana even through over 93 % of blacks voted for him. Lake results are in. Obama fails to close the deal again. All he had to do was win Indiana - he is a failure an anbatrose around the democratic party neck.

Whose turn was it to give Linda her pills tonight? Come forward, take responsibility...

Anyway, nothing more fun than watching the hateful, despicable characters burn themselves up on this board when CLINTON HAS TO GO HOME.

What a great day.

Obama is getting 95% of the black vote.
His campaign is based solely on race now. Wright, Resko, Ayers, his zero accomplishments, zero experience make him totally unqualified to be president.

Posted by: John Gio | May 7, 2008 1:08 AM

where do you get 95%? even today alone, between NC and IN it's no more than 90 from what i've seen. if you look at polls, obama does well with young, educated, white voters. please explain his race-only campaign. also, please explain to me the vast difference in experience between a 2nd term senator and a 1st term senator (no tea parties applicable, btw)

As I said before, Mr. Obama is the new come back kid!!!
Outstanding outcome.

Thank you Indiana , thank you N.C.

I wonder if Hilary will put on a tearjerk performance with the Supers tomorrow...

Seth,

Don't you see what a setup Obama's past is for the Republicans? They've got the videos in the can already. Just play the pastor or the terrorist friend of Obama day and night. Fox will play the Anti-Obama videos around the clock. Hillary is the only choice for us. Why put another Mondale up? Us Dems are cutting our throats by being fooled by Obama's rhetoric. He will lose to McCain. HILLARY got over 70% of the over age 65 folks. They ain't going for Obama. Just pass out the grape koolaid now.

The person who wrote the following, "...How do the candidates stack up against McCain?This page has all the answers:http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/06/raw-data-karl-rove-co-electoral-college-polling-trends/"

OH MY GOSH, You have to be kidding! FOX NEWS? Karl Rove?? WHAT?! And you say that therefore, Hillary Clinton must be the Democratic candidate. Wow, you are actually listening to the FOX Noise channel and Karl Rove, having them tell you who can beat McCain? Ouch!

Kennedy stole the 1960 election. 7,000 dead people voted for him in Cook county. The Daley machine got him elected, with mob help.

You're so right on, Rehen. Bill barely cracked a smile and didn't applaud at first when Hilary said "it's on to the White House". He looked so defeated. He knows, everybody knows, the handwritings' on the wall.
By the way, nice to see everyone from other countries here. Join the celebration!

Love it! Thank you Indiana...you did it!! HRC has cancelled all of her appearances for tomorrow. Even if she squeaks it out by a 1%, she is done.
Time to focus on the general election...

TonyT, you said it perfectly.

James, how you can possibly think that any of the three (though there are really only two now) would not be miles better than Bush is being me.

But what's wrong with the black harvard educated idealist? I don't think any of those words are bad ones.

Obama is a politician, not a Messiah, he has plenty of flaws including boundless ambition (all presidential candidates have that) and occasional pandering.

But many voters, too many for Hillary, can see that there really is a difference between Obama and his two opponents. He really is a slightly better man. Not a saint, but a noticeably better, more honest, more ethical person who tries to treat voters as thinking adults.

One who genuinely wants to raise the tone of discussion, if only because he does better in such an environment.

The people who put Bush in office are still there, and will rail against that. But enough voters respond to it, especially after eight years of the opposite, to put Obama in the White House.

President Obama: Not a saviour, not a rockstar, maybe not even a uniter, but a noticeably better person than the average politician. Better than we've seen in a while.

Obama is a fundamentally decent person and that's already more than I dared hope for in American presidential politics.

Check out Michelle Obama's college thesis-scary stuff.

I'm a registered Republican and a senior. Maybe it's time for a change. I remember how hopefull I felt when Kennedy was voted in. by the way Kennedy was younger than Obama.

I am hoppinh mad let me tell you. All you mud people ARE MAKIN ME SICK BY VOTING FOR O'BLACKUM JUST BECAUSE HE IS YOUR SAME COLOR AND LIMITED INTELLIGENCE, YOU *HOLE ISLAMISISTS! THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL AND IT IS YOU PEOPLES FAULTS THAT GOD'S PEOPLE CAN NOT GET AHEAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU FREE RIDES IN THE FORMS OF WELFARE ALL DAY LONG. WE COULD OF WON THIS WAR EXCEPT FOR YOU MONKEYS AND GORILAS COSTING US TO MUCH IN TAXES AND WE CANNOT FIGHT AGAINST SATAN BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY'S MILITAIRY CAN NOT BUY THE RIGHT KIND OF WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting Fox news at to who will be better against McCain? Not buying that.

Ron - you are a stupid racist. When hillary/artillary goes I hope she takes you with her. Maybe Bill can share one of his dates with you.

Can the black communities across America show their racism in any larger a degree than in voting 90%+ for skin color?

Obama is a uniter? He is a fraud and he should be in jail with Tony Rezko. And he might be if the trial ends soon enough (www.rezkorama.com) And if he is elected you will be begging at the end of 4 years that he takes himself out of politics because he is not only not particularly bright, but neither are his "constituents".

We have been offered "war" or "disgrace". Obama has chose disgrace. Now, if he is electd, we will get a war we never planned on with a weakend military that despises Obama and will not be re-enlisting.

JR - Ron Paul supporter

Obama is getting 95% of the black vote.
His campaign is based solely on race now. Wright, Resko, Ayers, his zero accomplishments, zero experience make him totally unqualified to be president.

James- Hahaha I can't help but see the irony in your statement after 8 years of Bush.

Right, Truth, you have a better education than Obama's doctorate. Funny--I think a few more people have, I don't know--heard of him, voted for him, supported him...than you.

There's nothing more pathetic than sitting around just sniping at all the candidates. If you don't choose one, or believe anything, you're just part of the background noise. So sorry.

HEY EVERYBODY! GUESS WHAT! I JUST WENT TO A REPUTABLE NEWS SOURCE AND FOUND OUT THAT YOU'RE ALL WRONG! CLINTON DID WIN INDIANA, AND LOOK--I HAVE THE PROOF RIGHT HERE IN THIS HERE LINK, SO GIVE IT UP!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/06/politics/main4073609.shtml

:-) :-) :-) Maybe Gary will teach CBS a lesson about calling races too early. I'd love to see this turn into a "Dewey defeats Truman" on a smaller scale.

This should go to the Supreme Court !!!

Nuh Nuh nah nah hey hey hey goodbye..

Obama '08

Come November the American public will have a choice between either 'Witchie-Poo' or a 'youthful Black Harvard Educated Idealist' vs 'The Aging Manchurian Candidate'. I don't know about you dear readers, but I'm either staying home or I'll vote for Ralph Nader just to toss a monkeywrench into the works. I cannot believe that these Three Stooges are the best that the country has to offer. Pathetic!

John, don't worry. First of all, Clinton will probably still pull it out. Second, it makes no difference. This is NOT Florida, where the winner takes it all. This is a fight for one delegate and some bragging rights--and Clinton is toast anyway.

I was quoting some obnoxious Fox News clone, and using "dirtbag" ironically.

I'm sure you DON'T like McCain that much. One of the reasons Obama will win is that however little the Rethugllicans like him, they don't really want to win this time around and they don't want a guy they can't control in the Presidency.

Who cares what sort of moral judgment you pass on a candidate? The point is to choose the right person to lead, to make decisions, and to personify the party.

Now the choice is clearly: the angry old midget, or the inspiring genius with too much melanin in his skin for some people.

I'm not saying it's a lock--but I'm saying he's the best shot we've got at a great President in, oh 48 years...

TheTruth- No one smarter than someone who votes "none of the above." I'm sure your 3 degrees come in handy when your "tossing out the bait." If you are smart enough to be above it all than what are some positions on some issues worthy of your intelligence?

This is not good at all for us Dems. I want Obama to win and he will. He had everything going he way. Now I feel this will be in the news for a long time. It will turn into the Bush / Gore Florida media mess all over again. This is not the end of the race for who we as Dems pick. Now its going to start over from the start and for what? A few too many votes he did not need. I am sorry but it wont end like this.

Obama would LOVE for Hillary to quit, but it ain't going to happen. She's got the goods for an Obama October Surprise, probably gotten ahold of Obama's crack dealer. Hillary mention Rev. Wright in a debate; she didn't do that so she could quit. Hillary was signaling Obama: I will drop you like a bag of dirt. Hillary is not a quitter, the gloves come of tomorrow.

It's finally over -- it does not matter if Obama does not win, Hillary has failed to win by the margin she needed to at least have a sorry excuse to stay in the race.

It is over for Hillary, and it's good that way.

I can't think that it takes this long to count eleven thousand absentee ballots. Filling out eleven thousand fake ballots, however, that would take some time.

I'm sure no one has info on 'cheating' yet, much too early to even tell that. It's just more sore loser whining from Hilary fans.
The news just caught up with the new results, I'm watching Nightline. They said the campaign curtain is on its way down for Hilary, and that she plans to go see the Super Delegates tomorrow. She is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE! They also just said that she had no exit plan from the campaign preplanned, so she's looking really pathetic. They just showed Michelle and Barack celebrating, drinking a beer with their campaign crew and clinking glasses :)
Who's got the info that Hilary cancelled her morning appearances? How did you hear it?

Even if Hillary does win INDIANA, it's over - but she will keep this painful process to continue. Dump the Liar Now!

OD makes a good case - Gary is snowbirding to create the illusion of momentum in Indiana for Obama, so that, even if he loses (which looks to be the outcome) he can claim to be "pulling away" from Clinton and turn up the pressure on the superdelegates.

Of course, since only the superdelegates can decide the nomination now, there's zero chance of Clinton backing down until there's no doubt left. She can theoretically fight to the convention, since the supers can change their minds up until that point.

"Let me guess: the Mayor of Gary is Black, right? Coincidence I am sure."

"I can't believe I may have to vote for a republican in November. I just can't get over Obama's Muslim stuff. I hope Hillary can pull it out."

Hillary supporters speak.

I think Obama should propose an immediate adult education tax credit for Hillary supporters.

Seth,

Guess again, I can't stand Hannity. But I can sure set here and tell you I've gotten a better education, 3 degrees so far; and I have absolutely no ethical problems at this point - and don't plan on any in the near future. It is a big world, and it's full of blind, bitter idiots like yourself. For you stand by any of these politicians really exposes your intelligence, or lack of. I don't support either party; just like to toss out the bait and see who bites.

Ed? Aren't you watching? THE DEAL IS CLOSED

I can't believe I may have to vote for a republican in November. I just can't get over Obama's Muslim stuff. I hope Hillary can pull it out.

Posted by: andrew | May 7, 2008 12:50 AM

Hey andrew. what is obama's "Muslim stuff?" are you a fcuking idiot? he's about as muslim as george w. born-again bush.

Obama owes her nothing. He should ask John McCain to dump the republicans and run as co-president. Or he should ask Oprah to be his VP. Also - he is a born again Christian! And he is 1/2 White - and does not go with the B. Panthers. Folks should know the facts before they vote.

Seth Bullock said, "I like my "Che Guevara-loving dirtbag" against your angry old war-loving midget any day of the week."

Sorry to disillusion you, but I don't like McCain, either. [BTW I do like the "Che Guevara-loving dirtbag" reference. Nice turn of phrase]

For 99% of politicians, votes and campaign money are the only things that matter. No concern for the voters' well-being or the betterment of society.

As to the past achievements of any of the candidates -- I think they're irrelevant to the candidates' apparent (stated) plans to garner more political power.

Bottom line is it's all going to come down to a party fight at the DNC in August. I predict that neither Clinton or Obama will get enough votes to clinch the nomination and then it will be 1968 and 1972 all over again. Just wait and watch.

"Let me guess: the Mayor of Gary is Black, right? Coincidence I am sure."
--- Wow. So racist. Hillary won tons of rural counties where white peop