The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

"One Nation Angrily-Divided with Liberty for All"; it seams - if many comments are a reliable indicator.

The overarching trend seems to insightfully suggest that Senator Obama will attract upwards of ninety percent of votes cast by likely Black citizens in the 2008 presidential election.

Much of this "dedicated" support is likely explained by a display of pent-up pride in the wake of a political phenomenon that has been "a long time coming."

There are atavistic (ancestral) undercurrents that steer a "minority" - within a huge universal census group - to reach for more focused visibility; Obama helps. This is derived from a minority group that has a sense of sociological invisibility. Because of this sense of invisibility (to the dominant census group) minorities, at times, "band together" (bloc) to enhance chances of being more loudly heard; more clearly seen; more equitably accommodated; and more civilly recognized by a civil society - of those of civil decorum.

This should help explain why 'narrow-focus' groups, as the Congressional Black Caucus, are formed and tolerated by the "Majority Caucus" - that has the broadest focus on serving the causes and needs of the most prominent; the most powerful. Why name and announce the formation and function of a "White Congressional Caucus?" If you already own it - there is no need to advertise it.

By the way - in spite of "Jim Crow," the "Codes," "Reconstruction" and a "rally-round Obama" clarion call - Black Americans, in the entirety of presidential elections, have cast their ballots for a White male candidate - one hundred percent of them - one hundred percent of the time; now that's some bias!

Hillary has 11.4 million reason to saty in the race. If she can find enough poorly educated elderly racist white women to fund her reimbursement, I say let her have it!

I am white, started out as very pro-Hillary - and no longer am, for reasons that many others have stated here.
I now support, and voted for, Obama. And I am absolutely sickened by the bigoted, racist, ignorant, and twisted trash that Hillary supporters have posted here.

The nomination contest was "colorless" until the Clinton camp started a race war.
Blacks were Bill's most loyal supporters, through and after his White House problems. But the Clintons lost them, and their support for Hillary, when they demeaned Obama - portraying him as a "Jesse Jackson," a joke, a losing cause, or a less-than-adult. Even those who'd supported Hillary were floored by the disrespect.
Once she lost blacks, her campaign became a race war - raising or implying race issues at every chance, encouraging slurs, trying to marginalize Obama as a black-only candidate, painting him as a creepy-mysterious "other" or cult figure, implying that his supporters were mind-controlled morons, and desperately pitching herself to blue-collar whites, via *any* means necessary.

Thanks to Hillary, issues took a backseat to race, ad-hominem attacks and slurs - because she didn't expect real competition, and couldn't raise real issues (since her platform is barely discernible from Obama's).

I saw these spin tactics firsthand - because, until I switched, I belonged to several official and unofficial Hillary-supporter lists. So I *know* where the dirt was coming from - from HRC's camp, not from the GOP.
The Obama camp has *not* used these sleazebag tactics - and I've really looked for them with a gimlet eye, after my HRC-sleaze experience.

Since the remaining primaries are in mostly-white states, Hillary has pulled out all of the "race" stops. Her slogan might as well be "Help Make White History."
It's obvious to all, and disgusting.

But her supporters' comments - like many of those here - are *more* disturbing. They're using this campaign as an excuse to vent every last bit of vicious anti-black hatred, and to gain votes via divisiveness - setting white vs. black, older vs. younger, "class" vs. "class."

Hillary has alienated the Dem base via her nuke-Iran comments, misspeaks, shadiness, and her campaign's racialism, right-wing mode, and insults to Obama voters - implying that these Democrats are sexist, not white enough, not "hard-working," or are a hypnotizable, overeducated Establishment elite. That's laughable, since HRC is a wealthy double-Ivy longtime Dem.-Establishment honcho, and relies on big donors - whereas Obama's support comes mostly from small-fry.

Out of desperation, she has narrowcast herself out of the party. The slice she's appealing to will most likely vote for McCain - regardless of who the Dem nominee is.
The "big-state" wins she crows about are hardly jaw-dropping. Even Pre-Desperation, she squeaked by with just 51% in Calif., 54% in NJ (which might well go GOP anyway) ... and 57% in NY, which is *not* the mega-win you'd expect in a senator's home-state, and in a two-person field. (In contrast, Obama won nearly 65% in Illinois.)
And from February until this past week, the Far Right was urging Republicans to vote for Hillary - viewing her as the weaker candidate. Many of her wins have been less than overwhelming - and a chunk of her "votes" undoubtedly came from Repubs who'd never vote Democratic in November.

And despite her win-at-any-cost divisiveness and the Bill-and-Hill power machine, she's still far behind by any measure - delegates, popular vote, states won - even *if* Fla. or Fla-Mich were included.

Hillary is not qualified, does not have majority support, and her ongoing antics and personality-switches have turned off many Democrats who voted for her in early primaries.
She isn't good for the party, or the U.S. - or even for her "base"-at-the-moment, since she's unprincipled, and switches horses, backtracks on agreements, and reshapes her reality at will.

Her campaign has become some sort of obsessive-compulsive disorder. It has brought out the worst in her and in her supporters - who have mindlessly reamed the Democraic voters, grassrootsers and donors who are *essential* to nomination, much less in winning a GOP-Dem. contest.
It's no wonder that she's far behind, has to keep lending herself money, and is tanking in the integrity ratings.

If you're a racist you know it. You can redeem yourself from the sin of your confederate fathers by voting for Obama. He will inspire you to find yourself, be a better person, elevate your life to higher political and economic conditions and shed your obsession with mere skin color. worse, skin color of other people. How trivial is that? You will feel lighter spiritually and emerge from decay and conservatism to fulfill your Democratic destiny.

Just wanted some help here. Obama has a white Mother (An American and whose grant parents also while fought for America), and a black father from Kenya. Where do we place him, African-American, mixed race (black-white) or what? I have seen nowhere in this op oped where people talk of his white mother and white parents to re-enforce his true Americanism, but his color to question his patriotism? people should wake up and distinguish between leaders who use ignorance of voters to further their hateful agenda, and which does not help the ordinary Americans.

I have heard that Senator Clinton, although on "life support," still has a political pulse but she would have to pull-off the equivalent miracle of "drawing to an inside straight" to rise as the standard bearer for the Democratic Party. That miracle, fragmenting, though it is apt to be, would have to come in the reincarnation of "late conversion 'super-delegates.'"

That is "doable" - and it would be legitimate. The "roll your own" notion of the obligation of a "super delegate" takes on a form and meaning that best suits personal preference. The very concept of supernumeraries is to build-in 'jam-busters.' If they were intended to vote to reflect the will expressed by the size of the popular vote the number (of 'extras') would have been allocated based on the size of the popular vote. Many of the "supers" do not have a constituency; are not directly tied to a state or to a district.

An aside: whether the Democratic nominee is Senator Clinton or Senator Obama and even if one of them should be elected president - the real power (political clout) as a group or class - will not be held by women (of all colors); not by Blacks (of all shades); not by Latinos: not by Native Americans; not by Oriental Americans; not by Arab Americans; not by 'blue-collar' workers (of all colors). The White male of substantial financial means and grandfathered "legacy" - is the Alpha American - and will continue to be the dominant force in American politics and its culture for millenia. Translation: a woman president - whether Senator Clinton or a sociologically Black male president- Senator Obama, is not and will not be a threat to the normal order of things; have no fear!

The call from Hillary is out of desperation. She appears to be arrogant on this call. The stats will speak to her that theree are more mixed folks with color than as she calls them white folks. Many of us are hard working folks in the working class of America. Many of whom,hil is calling blue collar. She is appealing to women to come to her side, but when it comes to issues, Hil runs out to be like the man. What's up with this. The Primary is nearly over. She now has other issues to contend with. She appears in denial and exausted. We don't need to sling anymore mud. Tell her... it's over.

the real racist is Obama and Micheel ,in America just use the race card for blacks and you can get anything job, houses, money,crimmal justice , that is why they can threaten white,s with violence if Obma don,t get the job, it will be from now on that any black who chooses to run for public office will just use the race card and the white people will just shut up or face violence that is the future model for America P/S commercial jobs too for blacks

I should fall to my knees and pray that our Democratic party is not comprised completely of utter morons like the authors of most of the above posts, but that might be a whopper of a request even for an omnipotent and omniscient God . . . Most of you people should just shut the hell up and do what I tell you now: vote for the Democratic nominee in November, whoever it is.

All of the shrill partisan vitriol accusing either Obama and Clinton of pandering to the darkest racist or sexist recesses of our souls obscures the danger posed by the most insidious "ism" of all: Bush-McCain Republicanism. EITHER Clinton or Obama will better represent the interests of white, black, brown, male, female, highly- or less-educated, young, old, boomers, beer-drinkin'- or latte-sipping, bowlers or golfers, white- or blue-collar wearin' folks, nearly everybody except possibly the corporate suits and far-right Neanderthals.

Get over yourselves, get beyond the parochial interests of your particular racial, ethnic, socio-economic, or some other damned irrelevant demographic and ELECT A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT in November. Still offended by either BHO or HRC or their surrogates?? Don't like Jeremiah Wright? Forget him, he doesn't matter. Sickened by Billary's win-at-any-cost tactics?? Who cares????? Grow up and just throw out the Republican plutocrats in November, or you will quickly and sadly discover that all these horrible insults you've suffered at the hands of your Democrat primary opponents will pale into utter insignificance by comparison to the national injury we will suffer with another four or eight years of the Republicans.

Can't rely on either Obama or Clinton to UNIFY rather than divide us Democrats? THEN be a unifier yourself . . . Can't manage that? Then at least shut the hell up.

His gang of black, white-hating supporters and white trash-talking surrogates who have been smearing and sneering at Clinton for so long can try to get him elected without her supporters.
This why HRC will NOT be elected. Racist to the core.

on the ads on tv:
While McCain has condemned the ad as not having a place in the political discourse Hillary Clinton, great champion for civil rights that she claims to be, has declined to comment on the ad and its appropriateness or inappropriateness in the political arena.

It turns out that Hillary will not fight against incivility and racial stigmatizing if it will benefit her on Election Day. Is this a surprise.
When Bill shakes that finger he has no defense and is lying. "I did not have sex with that woman."
her base is broad--we know--your jackets can't hide it.

Sadly there is a lot of identity politics in the process. Race, gender and age are very apparent.

Hillary's base in not broader based on race. It's broader in the Democratic party based on gender and age. The party is about 54% women and she lost the nominating process. That is because young women voted for Obama and they narrowed the gender gap and created an age gap (which Obama wins handily).

The gender gap is erased in the general as Indy and GOP bring the balance back to 50/50. DEMS have not carried a majority of the "white vote" since I can remember.

If it was truly race Obama would not have won IA, WY, NE, KS, AK, CT, VT, MN, WA, WI, ID and throw in MT, SD, ND.

I agree that Obama's AA base "would have" supported Clinton if Obama were not running or doing well. They supported her as a majority before he won IA. But now that he has defeated her fair and square they would not support her if the nomination is handed to her.

For AAs, that would be like spitting in the face of the entire civil rights legacy that promised the "idea" that someone like Obama woould have a shot based on the vote. Not the superdelegate runoff election.

AAs support DEMS first and foremost because of the civil rights legacy. Kill that thru Clinton (and you would) and you throw out a 90/10 baby with the bathwater just to get Clinton and "maybe" have an easier time with McCain.

The 90/10 vote is linked to the very reason Obama cannot be denied the nomination. The AA views on guns, abortion, school choice, school prayer, gay marriage and other social issues are not all that different from the population as a whole. While basically more liberal and progressive the AA vote without civil rights would be no where near 90/10. AT 90/10 it delivers 10 net points to DEMS in places like WI (milwaukee), MO (st Loius), PA (philly), Ohio (cleve), etc throught a number of close states. Without the 90/10 the DEMS lose every time. It's not the 12% it's the 90/10 that matters so much.

Ironically, tHe best thing Obama has is the 90/10. It's underestimated in importance in the above states. (it is also important in IL, MD, NY, MI etc.) The reason its underestimated though is that his 90/10 will probably be 95/5 AND the AA turnout will be historic. So will the youth vote which will also be lopsided for Obama.

Of course he can win. It might not appear apparent but I beleive he WILL win.

If Obama gets robbed the AA vote will be nowhere near 90/10 ever again. That's the end of the story for superdelegates whether Obama actually beats McCain or not. In my opinion the question is now moot becasue its the party more than '08 election at this point. HIllary is done.

The DEMS will implode forever if they snub the vote and the AA vote in particular. THey'd lose not only this election but the 90/10 for the next 4 or 5 and they know it.

It's just over for Hillary in this cycle.

Now America gets to decide if it can elect an AA with limited overall experience in Washington and no executive governance. McCAin will look bad as he promises more Iraq, more of the same tax policy, and more borrow and spend.

If Obama were not Black he'd probably win in a landslide. But we'll see how it plays out. Unfortunately for the DEMS they have to trade risking 08 for certain defeat in 2012, 16 and 20 as AA split their vote.

The AA vote is powerful beyond conventional comprehension in the general. While only 12% of the population its much more of the vote for DEMS. 90/10 is a lot of points with a somewhat evenly divided white vote. Obama just proved that.

Whites are split more like 52 GOP, 48 DEM. The question is what will that split actaully be with Obama on top? I think it will be better than people believe unless actual DEMvoting DEMS vote on race. indy voters cannot really stomach McSame when all is said and done.

But the answer is simply we'll see 'cause Hillary is done.

The irony is the Hillary plea on race is that it solidifies the above argument. Race has become the only actual underlying rationale for taking it away from Obama. Becasue of the 90/10 it cannot be the reason and thus cannot be done.

It would kill the party. ....For a long long time.

just a reality check

It's too bad if some people are partisan to the gender their soul is living in or the race when unity is so simple. Giving the respect you want and forgiving the unconsciousness of the past and making room at the head table for everyone. The Clintons have closely and carefully cultivated the African American voters in the past. Clinton was even called the First Black President. That's how congenial their values were across racial lines. So here is another departure for Clinton. Trouble is, a LOT of people aren't making decisions by race or gender but by values, by what they want in a leader, by who they want representing them to the world and by who they want balancing the federal budget. The old way is to divide people and get them doing battle. The new way is to inspire people and get them doing work, constructive work, making the world a better place for all. Not just some who need to fear some others and be selfish. For all. Can hardly wait.

Why does our superficial media (a redundant phrase) continue to ignore the numerous mostly-white states that Obama has handily won? Are they that starved for simplistic, salacious and divisive memes to sell their papers with? Just pitiful.

Clinton as all too many elitists believes that working people in places such as WV & KY are ignorant racists.
I'm a New Yorker, (a real one born & bred) but I've lived in other places in the US & the world. I know that NY elitists sense of superiority is erroneous. I know that working people in the South & Midwest are often in a real sense less racist & bigoted than the PC NY DC crowd.
As a "white" New Yorker I apologize to the people in other states whom our junior senator has defamed. She is not one of us. She was forced upon us and won only because of weak opposition. She does not represent us but please forgive us for imposing her on the rest of the country.

How did Obama explained away his racism
Obama explained that he meant to say she his grandmother was a typical 'white person,' all of whom have an inbred fear of others. His later remarks about bitter, unemployed white folk clinging to their guns and religion and nervously eyeing strangers and free trade deals simply exacerbated his earlier remarks.
So it is not just what Wright has said, it is also what Obama has said and not said. To be "Catholic," Obama's own sins of commission and omission explain why many do not trust him.
You do not have to be older or white or less educated or less affluent to find such remarks disturbing -- unless you also believe that "down-scale" white folk are even more of a problem in this country than "rich white" folk.
In reality, the history of racism and discrimination in this country is much more complex than Obama's self-serving speeches suggests; not only have Asians and Latinos experienced it, so have many whites - unless, of course, you believe that the social and economic segmentation of this country occurred "naturally."

If you have to be upset, why don't you get upset with some of these voters who vote for Hillary just because she is a woman. And why you are at it, why arn't you upset with 10 to 15% of these voters who are voting for Obama just because he is Obama?

Lets face it, if people voted the issues, this would be a different race.

If you have to be upset, why don't you get upset with some of these voters who vote for Hillary just because she is a woman. And why you are at it, why arn't you upset with 10 to 15% of these voters who are voting for Obama just because he is Obama?

Lets face it, if people voted the issues, this would be a different race.

Doesn't Hillary know what happens to those who "stay too long at the fair"?

I am a 65 year old white lady who had been supporting Hillary both morally and financially. So far I had donated to her campaign the sum of $1200 but NOT ANY MORE. It appears to me Hillary and her campaign do not like or love America. They are in this election for themselves and to repay her lobyists some favors. That disturbs me a lot! What she says and does are two different things. She has no intergrity, no moral values left for a president to rule a nation. She is a liar and addicted to it! She is a destroyer and keen on it with pleasure! She is a divider and desperate to accomplish it!It is about time someone drag her out off this race. She is a symbol of shame and disgrace for descent American women. She says and does anything to win a nomination! But that aint gonna happen, not this time around! Are people not seeing that the more she hates and bends on destroying OBAMA the more this young man is favored! The blind (Hillary/Bill) leading the blind(her supporters) are all ending to a ditch of self-destruction. We talk about peace, she is on about another war to obliterate a whole nation "Iran". There is already damage on us beyond our boundaries. When African American had all this while been voting for white politicians, no one called it a "race card being played on me"! Now they vote for a Black, it is called a race card played on me? THIS IS A PATHETIC POLITICAL GIMMICK! WE AMERICANS ARE NOT RACIST! THOSE WHO ARE ARE NOT AMERICANS! My cash goes to Obama! My support goes to Obama! He is desperate to unite us and heal our wound globally! MAY ALL THOSE WHO RISE UP AGAINST HIM FALL! MAY ALL THOSE WHO ACCUSE HIM PROVED TO BE WRONG! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS OBAMA 08. I AM DONATING HIM $1700

so hillary-richard mellon-scaife-rupert murdoch-rush limbaugh-rodham-von clinton voted for THE WAR.

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Oh Lord, give me a hammer to hit my head with.

Will this woman stop at nothing? Doesn't she know she's turning into a stereotype before our very eyes?

I can't wait to see how her fence-mending project goes. Her spokesperson on NBC election night was a shrill harpy.

IN RESPONSE TO: "Ok, and what about all the sexist comments seen right here. "cover her up, her slip is showing"- how acceptable would it be to make references to Obama's skin color? Stop the double standard."

That's bull. VERY few of the anti-Hillary comments here have been "sexist." Almost ALL of the anti-Hill comments here object to her tactics -- NOT to her gender.
In contrast, the anti-Obama comments include swill like:
-- "Would someone give no-name a hankie to get the brown off [Obama's] nose. It has been up Obama's a** so long he is a non-thinker."
-- "obamas kabinet: Rev Wright as white haus chaplain ... the honorable Rev. Farrakhan as press secretary."
-- The Democratic leadership is trying to nominate Obama "just because he's black"
-- "I am not voting for Obama and the only people I know supporting him are blacks at work ... The blacks can have the party."

In fact: Pro-Hillaryites have produced all of the ugly, divisive "racial" posts here. These include racial insults, scare-warnings of black insurrection, and the implication that Obama is some sort of vapid "boy" who's being supported only by irrational black mobs, abetted by liberal-guilt whites.
I'd expect this "vote white" sewage from Limbaugh ditto-heada -- not from Democrats.

And the "If Hill doesn't win, I'm voting for McCain" comments just tell me one thing: Those people CANNOT be Democrats, or feminists, or pro-blue-collar. What kind of Democrat or feminist would vote to overturn Roe vs. Wade and continue the Iraq war? How are blue-collar whites helped by tabling health coverage forever, promoting NAFTA, and continuing GWB's disastrous policies?
Hence, the "vote McCain" crew either are GOP Fifth Columnists, misguided airheads, or part of some desperate HillCult.

This is one lifetime-Democrat, middle-aged white woman who voted for Obama.
I campaigned and fundraised for Bill C in '92 and '96. I initially leaned toward Hillary in this campaign.
But I am a rationalist, and these are serious times. I concluded that she just wasn't qualified: She was running on Bill's experience, had no elective experience prior to her custom-made Senate job, and no "theme" or plan at all, other than "Here I am, I deserve it." She further lost me via her divisiveness, dishonesty, and never-ending attacks.
Most of my friends/coworkers (male and female) also went with Obama -- though we're supposed to be Hillary's "base."
And I assumed that my whole mostly-white blue-collar neighborhood would be wildly pro-Hill. Turns out that many people are NOT -- and she even has turned off people who _voted_ for her in the primary (some of whom now display Obama rally and yard signs, and have donated to O.).

Hillary fans: We've caught on to Hillary's spin tactics:
She tries to mask her own unique faults by projecting them onto Obama.
She attacks first, and endlessly -- and then claims to be a "victim."
She will do anything to win, has no principles, and will throw anyone under the wheels.

Please vote Hillary, my fellow Aemricans. Then, in 2016, vote for Laura Bush.
Then, in 2024, vote for Chelsea Clinton.
Then, in 2032, vote for Jenna. Or Barbara. Whichever one is the smartest.

If you love your country, you'll just do it and never ask why.

One more thing: I hate how politicians take advantage of less educated people by manipulating image in the media. Mrs. Clinton has a very pro-gun control record, she is pro-life, and hers and Mr. Obama's proposals are very similar, except one could say her universal health care plan is even more "liberal" than his. Mr. Obama was raised by a single mom who was on food stamps at one point, and he has lived the American dream by moving up in the world through hard work and taking advantage of opportunities afforded him. How does she get to claim the "regular gal" vote? Because she's denying her own priviledge and voting history and talking with that ridiculous redneck twang in the back of a pick-up truck, and the media covers it without critical examination of it. I respect that Mr. Obama seems to have a core personality and calm demeanor that does not change based on pandering for votes. If he loses, he loses with integrity and grace. What more could a person hope for? If he wins, America gains an intelligent, thoughtful, graceful and, yes, imperfect, president who can model civility and integrity (for a change). After six years of an administration who tries to change the perception of the facts by claiming ownership of reality and presented themselves as "compassionate conservatives," "not nation builders," etc., in 2000, I'm ready for some consistency and integrity. You can say what you want about "elites" but anyone with any education can see through these lies.

Okay, I officially peeled my "I miss Bill" bumper sticker (from the Clinton Library) off my car. I am completely sick of the Clintons and their win-at-any-cost strategy that is starting to look not only futile, but self-centered and destructive. There is no doubt that there are white people who will never vote for a black male. However, Al Gore and John Kerry did not win the group that Hillary is pandering to either - she could focus on the perception of social class or the gun/religion cultural issues, but to focus on race is unforgiveable. She and her campaign are opening the pandora's box for republicans and bigots, and it is sad that this is coming from another democrat, especially since she has no chance of winning at this point (except in her own mind). I think the Clintons are hurting their own legacy at this point. I was a fan, I am no more. One more point: if she really thinks that those "hardworking, uneducated, white" voters would vote for a woman in the fall over a conservative white male - she's dreaming. Think about it in reverse - what if Obama was a white male, unable to win, but putting forth the idea that certain uneducated males wouldn't vote for a woman. That would be equally dispicable.

Okay, I officially peeled my "I miss Bill" bumper sticker (from the Clinton Library) off my car. I am completely sick of the Clintons and their win-at-any-cost strategy that is starting to look not only futile, but self-centered and destructive. There is no doubt that there are white people who will never vote for a black male. However, Al Gore and John Kerry did not win the group that Hillary is pandering to either - she could focus on the perception of social class or the gun/religion cultural issues, but to focus on race is unforgiveable. She and her campaign are opening the pandora's box for republicans and bigots, and it is sad that this is coming from another democrat, especially since she has no chance of winning at this point (except in her own mind). I think the Clintons are hurting their own legacy at this point. I was a fan, I am no more. One more point: if she really thinks that those "hardworking, uneducated, white" voters would vote for a woman in the fall over a conservative white male - she's dreaming. Think about it in reverse - what if Obama was a white male, unable to win, but putting forth the idea that certain uneducated males wouldn't vote for a woman. That would be equally dispicable.

Okay, I officially peeled my "I miss Bill" bumper sticker (from the Clinton Library) off my car. I am completely sick of the Clintons and their win-at-any-cost strategy that is starting to look not only futile, but self-centered and destructive. There is no doubt that there are white people who will never vote for a black male. However, Al Gore and John Kerry did not win the group that Hillary is pandering to either - she could focus on the perception of social class or the gun/religion cultural issues, but to focus on race is unforgiveable. She and her campaign are opening the pandora's box for republicans and bigots, and it is sad that this is coming from another democrat, especially since she has no chance of winning at this point (except in her own mind). I think the Clintons are hurting their own legacy at this point. I was a fan, I am no more. One more point: if she really thinks that those "hardworking, uneducated, white" voters would vote for a woman in the fall over a conservative white male - she's dreaming. Think about it in reverse - what if Obama was a white male, unable to win, but putting forth the idea that certain uneducated males wouldn't vote for a woman. That would be equally dispicable.

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

If any other politician or corporate executive in the country had used these words, they would be castigated. But the Clintons seem to get a pass. My hope is that this entire campaign is revisited if she runs for re-election to the Senate in New York.

Because playing the race card as part of her do and say anything to win values is Racist. She does not deserve to hold any political office with such values.Politics will get cleaner when the electorate starts expecting more from their representatives, and throw them out if they cannot live up to higher standards. You get the government you deserve

If there's a Clinton on the ballot, deciding who to vote for will be as easy as ABC - Anybody But Clinton, the racist beach.

She may have the white/ignorant redneck vote sewed up, and her classmates and their stupid cow friends will vote for her, but who wants THOSE people choosing our leaders? We did that 8 years ago!

I don't believe that after her recent comments, anyone else will be voting for her. She's a poison pill for the Democrats - the whole party.

I also find it HIGHLY amusing that she thinks that white middle class men would vote for her!!! ROTFLMBO!!!

There is no way to wiggle Hilly out of her statement. There is no way to cut her any slack. It was her words and her words alone. SHE actually used the words WHITE PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR ME. She said the code word "WHITE". She can't make it any clearer where she stands. How can she possibly identify with me? She can write a $5,000,000 check, yet I can't find 5 cents under the sofa cushions. She doesn't even have a poor past to relate to. She started her campaign wth an ad showing her surrounded by fine furniture and things. What are these hard working people going to get for their votes, other than the privilege of voting for a White woman? It's all about her. It is just wrong to use people and play on their fears and emotions as Hilly is trying to do. Voters are Jurors. These voters will set aside all of this mess, fears and weigh the evidence of WHAT'S best and not WHO'S best for them and this Country. The person who possesses the ability to make the What's Best for this Country happen will be the person voted into office. Who that person is will not matter by November.
Hilly will be shocked when these people turn on her for fronting them through race-baiting. They'll show her who's the dumb@ss.

Honestly, I do not understand why so many people are up in arms about blacks supporting Obama, when they supported Billary until HE showed his true colors in SC. Thanks to Bill, Hillary lost her black pass. But pro-black is NOT anti-white.

I don't see anyone screaming its racist, sexist, and ageist that Hillary has the support of white woman over 65!

BTW, blacks are not stupid. Prior to Iowa, most blacks didn't support Obama because they felt he was unelectable, so why waste a vote? That's why blacks didn't support Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. But after Iowa, Obama proved he was electable and after SC, Clinton proved she didn't deserve the support of blacks.

Sometimes the truth is just that, the truth.

mr united - you are full of it - jews are not for obama - many are for mccain due to obama's stupid notion that he will speak to the prez of iran - give me a break- zero experience - I'm for clinton and will vote mccain - obama is pulling the sheets over all of your eyes - wake up america

Don't tell anybody but most of Barack Obama's supporters and voters are of the lighter persuasion (white).
This includes republicans and independents.

Republicans that voted for Hillary starting with Texas and Ohio, will vote republican in November.

Jews prefer Obama 61% to 38% over McCain,
according to a recent Gallup poll

Don't tell anybody but most of Barack Obama's supporters and voters are of the lighter persuasion (white).
This includes republicans and independents.

Republicans that voted for Hillary starting with Texas and Ohio, will vote Republican in December.

No question Clinton's comment were intended to be racially polarizing.

Now do you think those refuse to vote for Obama because of skin tone, would be more likely to vote for Clinton or McCain in the general election.

Clinton's naive assumption is that they will vote her.

Aspergirl: Or so you call yourself. I am a black male who is not at all angry at white females who support Clinton. I do, however, get angry at females (white or black) who like you feel that just because Clinton is a female she should be crowned President. Likewise I did not vote for Obama simply because of his skin color. As a matter of fact I was a Clinton supporter until the S.C. statements made by Bill; followed by the Geraldine Ferraro statement. Aspergirl it appears that it is you who have a psychological problem with black men. I bet you are one of those white women who automatically clutch your purse whenever you see a black man approaching. I could respect you if you were at least honest with yourself and with others about your latent racism. For years and years blacks have consistently voted Democratic - and guess what all of the candidates were white males. So to say that because Obama is getting 80+% of the black vote is an example of black racism is preposterous. Have you ever considered the notion that blacks, young people, educated people, etc. are supporting Obama because of his charisma, policy, freshness, and yes lack of Washington experience. I wish I could say that I pity you; but I don't. I revile you because you do not appear to have the intellectual ability to disagree with the other candidate without resorting to base uneducated vitriol.

Donna, fat lot of good you did Al Gore - go away.

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You are absolutely about Brazile. She screwed him over in 2004 when he would have beat George W. in a landslide.

I'll tell you one thing...had that been Hillary in 2000, she would have fought George W et al. until "the last dog died" and she will do it in 2008.

I am so proud of her....she is the class of the field.

So if 90% of Black Americans vote for a White man that's o.k. But if 90% of Black Americans vote for a Black man then that's racist?

Does that mean that the 90% of Jews that voted for Lieberman are anti-Christian?

Does that mean the 95% of Mormons that voted for Romney are anti-nonMormons?

Does that mean the women that vote for Hillary hate men?

Those that have hatred in their hearts are need to assume hatred in others to justify their own hatred.

WHEN WILL PARTY RESTORE ORDER TO DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

How degrading for the Clinton Klan to drag the Democratic party into the pit of racism.

Hillary, Bill, Paul, Mannie, James Carville, Terry, Rush, Hannity, Bill O...and the rest of their brown shirt biggies must be stopped.

Reject fear and anger...choose dreams and hope. Live Free!

dpmd: My latest :Exactly was directed to you and showed up several posts later. I can only say again by looking at the EC map I can see NO WAY for him to win. The Repubs that changed their Registration and voted for him in their effort to stop Hillary along with those that voted for him in the X-Over states will go back and vote for McCain in the GE, and in the Red states there is NO WAY again that he can win. This has been, and continues to be the FALSE information being put for by The Media and his other supporters.

I bet all the geezers who talk down Obama are ancient and have no "myspace" nor have they even heard of it. Obama will be the president, more! he will be the president for the world. Unless you're a total fool to engage in self flagellation you'll shed your fear, vote for Obama and Uplift yourself politically and economically.

Posted by: Penny | May 8, 2008 8:58 PM
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haha! Sadly, I cannot tell if this is sarcasm, or an Obama supporters actual opinion.

While it is true that she won less educated whites, the quote that she gave to USA Today would have made Lee Atwater cringe. Hard working whites, etc. is some race baiting at worst and a pandering gaffe at minimum. Look at the exit poles. Obama doesn't have a "white" problem. He has an over 65 problem. You decide for yourself why they are the last on board.

To the white blue collar people:
Hillary Clinton thinks blue collar whites are the dumbest people in the world. After selling out the middle class on health and supporting NAFTA while in the White House, she thinks you guys are so stupid that you'll turn out and vote her back into the white house. She thinks you are too stupid to figure out that the oil companies will just increase the price of gasoline to pay for the increased taxes on them during the so called gasoline tax holiday. She thinks you're too stupid to to figure out that lowering the price will increase demand and that the increased demand will increase the price. She thinks you're too stupid to know that W will never sign a bill increasing the tax on the oil companies. She thinks you're too stupid to realize that institutional racism is costly to maintain and places an unfair burden on the backs of white blue collar workers. She is hoping you're either too stupid or too afraid to face the truth.

She thinks you're too stupid to figure out the message that she and other bigots are sending to blacks : "You should be proud to be an American. Of course, you can never be president, and you can never have the best jobs, you'll always be a 2nd class citizen, you'll never get justice, and the police will shoot you down in the middle of the street. We think America is great and so should you". She thinks you're too stupid to see through that faulty logic. I can only hope that she is wrong.

Exactly, and to others like JCbile the SC comment wasn't in any way "Racist". This is being done by The Media and his supporters and it is plainly FALSE. Take another look at my QUOTE and hopefully you will be able to understand.

Shawn said > May 9, 2008, 12:45

I didn't hear racists like you complaining when "these people" voted 90% for Bill. Hmmmm. I guess as long as "these people" know their place, people like you are okay with it. BTW, I'm white, middle class, 2.5 kids, etc. Idiots like you would vote for a dog if it were running against someone from another race.

After her comments yesterday, this is one white man who does not want Hillary on the ticket, even as Obama's running mate.

As a New yorker, I may never vote for her again.

She has some major apologizing and fence-mending to do, before I would ever consider bestowing any credibility on her whatsoever.

The critical point about Hillary comes down to this:

If she is winning all of these different demographics...why is she not WINNING?

Begala's comments were contemptuous. I'd love to see somebody take the smirk of that punk's mug.

Hillary is Richard Nixon sick...

Meant point to race . . . not sex.

Stupid argument!!!!! Hillary has been winning the white vote because she wins the WHITE FEMALE vote 60% to 40% or 70% to 30% in almost every state. I know the media doesn't point to it, but with 60% of the Democratic base female, this makes her look like a much stronger candidate than she is. (only 52% of the general electorate is Female).

Now tell me with a straight face that these white women who have voted Democratic through thick and thin are all of a sudden not voting for Obama because he is Black; but they'll vote for McCain who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade???

Not going to happen, funny how everyone points to sex, but they won't point out the majority of Clinton's coalition is Female which heavily skews the statistics. In fact I believe when it comes to WHITE MALES it's a wash and I would love someone to do the statistics. So this is a false statistic that Hillary and the media are playing up.

p.s. - 15% of her voters in Indiana said they would vote for McCain over her; not a very strong coalition when you look at it that way. I would bet most were men and that makes her Female crutch even bigger.

For God's sake, how can anyone with an ounce of pride get up in the morning and say, "I am better because I have the support of all the dumb white crackers."

The only people screaming racism are Obama supporters and they have labled all people supporting Clinton--about half of the voters in primaries--as racist for doing so. It is the Obama side that has played the race card--Axelrod knew exactly what he was doing when he played it after New Hampshire--and then with Ferraro--and now calling all Clinton supporters racists--the press is eating it up and emphasizing that it is the white 64% voting for Clinton who are racists and not the 91% of blacks voting for Obama. I don't believe that race is as important as people think--but the extremists will keep screaming and influencing nothing...

j smith what you're saying is absolutely nuts.

Obama's difficulties getting white votes tend to be in places where:

1. the population is almost entirely white.
2. the population is largely uneducated.
3. membership in the KKK was -- and sometimes still is -- viewed as socially acceptable.

I don't know if you've ever been to Wyoming, North Dakota, Idaho, Nebraska, Washington state, Iowa, New Hampshire, or Maine -- but those states tend to be about as white as you can get. I don't get the sense many folks in those states are having any hard regrets.

Some of the old-timers though are looking for any and every excuse not to vote for a politician -- simply because of his skin color. It doesn't matter if the guy might help them out and do them a lot of good. It doesn't matter how much sense you talk to these old-timers. They seriously think a major presidential candidate has a "secret" agenda to "enslave the white race".

Those people are absolutely nuts -- and they exist in this country today!

so much attention has been given to the race issue. I think it is overstated. Of course African Americans are going to support an African American candidate. The interesting thing in this election is why is Hilary doing so poorly among white males? Why is she doing so well among the elderly? I wish the "so called experts" would probe the white male issue more. do some scientific polls probing why white males do not support Hilary. This is a most interesting phenomenon. Do white males reject women candidates? Is it just Hilary? Why?

If a Repub had said what Hillary said, he'd be crucified as a racist. If Obama had marginalized working-class whites the same way that Clinton marginalized blacks, he'd be called all kinds of a racist.

It's not about accuracy, it's about SENTIMENT. Rev. Wright was right in many respects, but he proved hmiself to be full of anti-American sentiment, and THAT is what bothered people about him (and, by association, Obama). Geraldine Ferraro was right in many respects, but her sentiments were polarizing. And she had to go. Now the candidate herself -- not her preacher, not her fundraiser, not her husband -- HILLARY CLINTON HERSELF -- has made a far more racist statement than any of them. Dems need to kick her to the curb, now, and show there is no place in the party for abject racists.

Or, they can simply concede that Dems are inherently no more friendly to blacks than Repubs, which is what I've been saying for decades.

Bottom line: if Obama was wrong for staying in Wright's church, Clinton has to be ten times wronger for uttering Wright-like racial pandering. Here's the audio, listed for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfidftLe5Z0

"SHAME on You" Hillary, If I would have known back then what I know now, I would not have voted for Bill. Is Hillary running for the President of the United States or President of the white people! You should change your name to McClinton. Who should I vote for, Hillary or Bill? "Shame on both of you". I guess Hillary feels like the "privileged one, so the white people owe her a vote, I guess she is not concerned about Hispanics, Jews, Indians, Biracial and Blacks voting because she has the white votes. Come on people wake up stand for something because if not you will fall for anything racist Hillary says. She is dividing all Americans.

As far as the 90 percent vote goes, this one is a no-brainer.

Black (African-American) voters across this country have voted for candidates of all races for years.

Even in head-to-head match-ups race has never been the sole factor that determines a vote. Sharpton didn't win South Carolina in 2004 -- Edwards did; with Kerry a distant second; and Sharpton a very distant third. Sharpton got 10 percent of the vote in state where the primary electorate is close to 50 percent black, so both Edwards and Kerry were getting support from all racial groups.

What's different here is that there are some white voters who HAVE NEVER and WILL NEVER vote for a black candidate UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

The fact that a person votes for someone who has the same skin color doesn't necessarily make a person a racist.

A racist is someone who under NO CONDITIONS will ever vote for someone who does not have their skin color simply because that person does not have share the same skin color.

In the early primaries obama had a lot of white support, they were paying a lot of college students to follow them around & it got a lot of the young voters who said we better get on the bandwagon before we get left out, but after they were on they found out that the wagon had some squeaky wheels just like the other campaigns maybe more. once they started taking a second look at obama they began to waffle, now his support is not as solid in all states as it was early with the white voters, in the 2 primaries just concluded I seem to remember obama having an 8 point lead in Indiana after pennsylvania & he got beat by 1 or 2 & he had a 20 point lead in north carolina & won by 14 , he lost support in both states but the press ignores that & keeps telling us how great his victory was now that makes me wonder about our fine journilists.In the case of losing support those early voters should understand you have to be careful what you wish for [YOU MIGHT GET IT].

The Clinton dynasty's campaign is having money trouble. To show their commitment to fight on until the bitter end, here's an idea. First, let Hillary and Bill dig down in their own deep pockets to pay off outstanding debts. They should consider what they have already loaned the campaign effort to be gifts rather than loans.

Then, set up a matching scheme whereby each dollar donated from supporters will be met with a dollar gifted from their millions.

These changes should justifiably make the dynasty's campaign look less like a family operation teetering on bankruptcy, and more like an effort strengthening Sen. Clinton's contribution to her Party's victories in replacing Bush and the Bush hugger along with their down-ticket associates.

"Will someone please tell me why 90+% of blacks voting for Obama is not "Racist" and 60 to 65% of whites voting for Hillary is???"
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Well, when the Clintons insulted Blacks in South Carolina, there was only one logical explanation of why Obama is now getting 90% of the vote.

The Clintons sought to make Obama the black candidate from the beginning and unfortunately for them they have been very successful.

When this race started, blacks and their leaders looked at Obama as a wannabe. His early success and the Clintons's insult to Black voters change the tide.

The one thing clinton is leaving out or acting like she dont care about is the youth, which come in many form, and will be the big voice in the next election...so she wont win then, for sure!

Tim -- the elites come in three classes.

1. The educated elites;
2. the moneyed elites;
3. the elites who have both money and education.

The educated elites and the educated elites with money tend to be Democrats.

The moneyed elites and trust-fund kids tend to be Republicans.

The educated elites haven't called the shots in this country in a while time.

The closest we got was probably with Bill Clinton. He was a closet educated elitist who could hide a first-rate education behind some southern charm. JFK was probably a mix of the two as well.

The Bushes would fall in the big money field -- Reagan could play the average guy, but he was after all just a Hollywood movie star and he was loaded. He had no problem dropping the top tax rate from 50 percent down to the lowest levels that we've seen since the Great Depression (Clinton kicked them back up a bit; the George. W. kicked them back down).

What you say about the other business is pretty much on the mark.

People tend to vote for politicians that they identify with (it can be based on race, gender, an accent, religious background, or some other connection).

Issues matter too though.

As a general rule, if a person is in the top .01 percent and doesn't have any sense of civic responsibility -- they should vote for the Republican 10 times out of 10.

If a person is a member of any other group; or a well-to-do person with a sense of civic pride the choice should almost always be the Democrat.

In this election year McCain is the candidate of the billionaires who want more tax shelters and corporate welfare.

Both the Dems -- Obama and Clinton -- are going to strike a much more reasonable balance.

Ok, and what about all the sexist comments seen right here. "cover her up, her slip is showing"- how acceptable would it be to make references to Obama's skin color? Stop the double standard.

My main point is that Donna Brazille is a angry little hack in politics. THANK YOU DONNA FOR GUIDING GORE SO BADLY THAT HE DID NOT TAKE THE PRESIDENCY EVEN GIVEN PEACE AND A GREAT ECONONY. She knows next to nothing. She has never been neutral in this campaign- she is the one who called Bill's fairytale speech "racist"- I challenge you to find racism in that speech- but the Obama campaign used the charge of racism to drop Clinton from competitive (30-40%) in the AA vote for SC to 8-12% allowing him to claim a signficant victory after losing Nevada and NH and saving his campaign.

Donna Brazille- evil little incompetent loser.

Leon

Just who is supporting Hillary? You tell me? Nearly 1/2 the Dems. are supporting her. She has no black support. Who are her supporters, please?

Will someone PLEASE give Ms. Hillary a crisp, white sheet so that she can cover up? It's chilly outside...and besides, her slip is showing.
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Would someone give no-name a hankie to get the brown off his nose. It has been up Obama's a** so long he is a non-thinker.

I am black and for years admired and supported the Clintons. Before the results in Indiana and N Carolina indicated Obama had weathered the character assassinations and self inflicted wounds from speaking about rural disconnect, I intended to hold my nose and vote for Hillary in November despite her and Bill resorting to racial polarizing comments to keep her candidacy afloat. But as of yesterday's rants from her and Wolfson, I could never bring myself to pull a lever for a Clinton again. Ok, if Chelsea ever enters politics and disdained the sins of her parents, she could earn my vote.

Once again, Clinton lies and distorts. It is not true white voters are simply supporting her. Nor is it true "white women" are supporting her. What is true is "white women" predominantly 50 years and over are supporting her. They are her strongest base along with seniors. But if you take white women from 21 to approximately 35, they are for Obama.

I know. Here in Howard County in Indiana, with a strong history of racism, young white women were overwhelming for Obama. Unlike older women and seniors, race does not mean anything to them. They have moved beyond race.

It is time for Hilliary to stop the racial divisiveness and seek to heal the racial wounds in America. It is time for her to be tough on the tough issues, unlike she was on voting for the war and what she is doing today to divide the country on race.

And if you do not believe she is doing this, then why did she circulate a brochure in the neighborhood's of Kokomo, Indiana,--just last week-- with a picture containing only white people on it and not one single person of color? She knows better. It is all about winning for her, not principles nor healing this country of the biggest issue that stains America--race.

This is the Southern Strategy of the late 60's/Early 70's GOP.
It's disgusting;

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What is she supposed to say. Maybe "I've got the non-black working class vote" or "I"ve got the non-black and maybe one black vote working class vote" or "I've got the typical white working class vote" Are you suggesting an untruth?

Bill caused controversy with his statements during Hillary's campaign, but guys haven't forgotten his actions as Governor in Arkansas or in the White House.
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How many of you good men appalled by Clinton's White House deed would have turned Monica down? Yep. None?

Vote Democratic in November!

The media and Obama himself have emphasized race- but let Clinton mention race and she is labled a racist. Many months ago, Michelle Obama gave a speech about the "black man" and no one blinked an eyelash. The "it's OUR turn" comments from Michelle Obama and her supporters went unchallenged. Those types of comments are about revenge, not about who is the best qualified candidate.
The media reports that Obamas support among blacks is in the 90% range, in N.C. the media reported 91%, but Clinton is stll branded the racist for mentioning the white race--what HYPOCRITES you are!

Let's all admit to the truth. The Deomcrats are the party of race, gender identify, sexual orientation etc.

They represent mutli-culturalism and this is the down side of that concept. The Clinton's and the democarts have always been made up of liberal closet racists. They preach about racial integration but live in segregated upscale neighborhoods.

Republicans leaders talk about sexual moarality and cheat their rearends off and the Democartics leaders talk about racial harmony and parctice raical divisiness.

He who shouts the loudest is more likely to be hiding what they are shouting about.

White liberal elitists are the nations wealthist people. They have no tolerance for the poor and less educated and that covers blacks more than whites. Soros and company (the billionaire socialists) are the hypocrits behind devisiveness in American just as are the wealthy corporations, etc.

Tim

When the Clinton camp was contacted about the statements they said that she was" just being factual and calling a spade a spade"

This is the Southern Strategy of the late 60's/Early 70's GOP.
It's disgusting;

It will be a cold day in hell when I vote for Clinton -- any Clinton -- for anything again. To take what should have been a source of pride that a woman was a credible candidate for president and turn it into a race-baiting campaign is beneath contempt. They might as well say it out loud: "West Virginia voters, you are white and Obama is black, so vote for Clinton."

I am now persuaded that Hill-Bill have one objective and only one in continuing this disgusting appeal to racism -- to so damage Obama that McCain is elected in November and Hill-Bill come back in 2012 to claim a presidential dynasty to which they feel entitled. The ballots for that campaign would be marked "Whites Only" and "Colored Only" in a throw-back to another era.

I realize there are voters who are not racist who genuinely believe that Hillary is the best (and only) candidate and I still find it hard to believe that Hill-Bill themselves hate blacks so long as black voters know their place, but it is part and parcel of Clintonian politics to do anything, say anything to "win" and address the mess later. If racism works, in Clintonian politics, use it. In this campaign, even if it doesn't work for 2008, it "accomplishes" the destruction of Obama and "clears the way" for Hill-Bill in 2012.

I could understand super-delegates holding off until the primaries end -- if Hillary had used this time to leave her campaign with dignity -- but is quite another matter to let her use such grace to race-bait as proxy for Republicans in November. She couldn't even wait one day before a USA Today interview laced with references to her whites-only base.

Super-delegates need to step in and put an end to this.

Will someone please tell me why 90+% of blacks voting for Obama is not "Racist" and 60 to 65% of whites voting for Hillary is??? This in its self does not meet any sensible test. Through the last 40 years, starting with Nixon in 1968, the Repubs have used the "Race Card" in every election, including 2000, when GW used it against McCain in the Primary. This time it is being used against Hillary by Obama, and he is the one doing it NOT Hillary. Remember my quote "Accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing so you will know what you are doing." The Media and others supporting him are keeping this FALSE accusation going in their effort to stop Hillary aided by Repubs that has been their strategy that I ACCURATELY Posted in January of this year.

The problem with Obama is that he has been a media darling from day one.

Those of us who want to choose our candidate based on ability, historical record, work ethic and knowledge have had this unexperienced, arrogant and lazy person forced down our throats.

Not since the CLOSED societies such as the Soviet Union or in dictatorships in today's world, have we seen such HIGHHANDED TACTICS.

The problem with Obama is that he has been a media darling from day one.

Those of us who want to choose our candidate based on ability, historical record, work ethic and knowledge have had this unexperienced, arrogant and lazy person forced down our throats.

Not since the CLOSED societies such as the former Soviet Union or in the many dictatorships in today's world, have we seen such HIGHHANDED TACTICS.

I choose to exercise my right to a free choice and it will not be OBAMA.

I promise on the day that the Democratic Elite and the MEDIA nominate Obama, I will post my first, of many, contributions to the man I will support in November, John McCain. I will copy that receipt onto my posts as proof.

All of you who either support Senator Clinton or simply care about VOTERS rights, are invited to do the same.

I also urge you to write to your State Superdelegates @ congress.org and to Howard Dean at http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman to express your displeasure.

Obama the DISENFRANCHISER.. West Virginia , Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana, So. Dakota, Florida and Michigan. Beg to DIFFER.

FIXED IT

Can't you write your own post?

Go Daniel! You are right on point, but Hilly is instigating a certain group to vote based on their shared skin color. Hilly doesn't want the reporter saying that they pimped Chelsea out, but she sure is pimping the "white" vote. She should be ashamed that she has labelled a group of people as too dumb to know that she is using them. That subliminal "WHITE POWER" that she is stroking is the most lowdown feat that she has come up with. She is dividing people within one race, alone. Hilly's mean spirited Me! Me! Me! attitude is venom to the Party. It doesn't matter who is President, if the troops stop fighting a baseless war and come home; that they have a better life and good mental heathcare, permanent solutions to high gas and food prices, ending homelessness and injustices, senseless taxation... Whatever, everyone benefits.

Hilary,
You should be ASHAMED, BLACKS put Bill in the office for 8 years and now you are telling WHITES to VOTE WHITE, you are disgusting and I know their are decent white folks in America are equally disgusted by your comment. Are you that desperate, what a real LOSER you turned out to be?

Obama, has NEVER told ANYONE to VOTE BLACK, unlike Hillary in her desperate attempt to get VOTES. The media and Hillary bought up and driving the race issue NOT OBAMA.

When BLACKS have VOTED FOR WHITES all their LIFE, BLACKS did not make it a RACE issue. Hit the ROAD HILLARY and DON'T COME BACK!.

How Obama won, and why the premise of this column is false:
92% of African-American vote;
100% of left-wing of Democratic party. This wing was especially strong in states where Democrats have not won in 20-50 years and have been long-marginalized politically (Idaho, Utah etc.). Less strong in large states where Democrats have a history of successful participation in politics.

This is the coalition Obama built. It can win a nomination in the Democratic party. It is doubtful it can be expanded beyond that in time for the election.

This column talks about Clinton's appeal to "white" voters. While they admire her, they couldn't care less about her "whiteness"- if you are a racist, a Clinton would NOT be your natural choice, and that's just dumb.

Clinton's appeal is to everyone who ISN'T (1) Black, or (2) Leftist. It's Obama's appeal which was limited, albeit to a decisive alliance of 2 blocs.

Hello American friends,
I have watched with interest the Democrat and Republican primaries to decide your Presidential nominees. Fascinating but expensive drama. A couple of points noticed:
1. Imagine what could have been done to help fix problems in the USA with the millions if not billions spent on these campaigns!!!!!!!!!
2. Pick the best one to lead - whatever the gender or race of the candidates, all that matters is who is the best leader.
3. Imagine the problems in your country that could have been fixed if the billion a day spent on the war in Iraq could have been spent on fixing problems in your own country.
4. Hope for change is eternal in building optimism in a society. Renewing hope in goverment amongst Americans is hugely important.
5. Candidates should think of their country 1st not their own political ambitions. It is tough to do that especially when one is surrounded by cronies who keep saying, "you can still win"!

We have the longest undefended border in the world between Canada and the U.S.A. We truly like and admire Americans and wish your country well in its leadership role and the most powerful nation. Hopefully the leader you choose will lead with dignity, humility and courage emphasizing co-operation between nations.
Best wishes in your deliberations choosing a president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary should reject in public any voter who supports here merely because she is white. Instead, she uses those voters to help her chances. White voters who vote for a person because she is white, or who refuse to vote for Obama because he is black are ignorant sloths.

AsperGirl wrote: "tom wrote: "WHAT A FREAKING MORON!" in response to my posting the quote "Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be."

Sorry I understated my response to AsperGirl, but it's a family newspaper!

"Letter from McCain campaign describing the negative-attack campaign tactics that we've watched Obama use against Clinton all season:
To: Interested Parties
From: Mark Salter, Senior Advisor
Re: Senator Obama's Attack Today"

AsperGirl you are a fool and a Republican, pasting that trash from the McCain camp here.

Why do you think the McCain camp suddenly picked this ridiculous fight with Obama yesterday?

Because the Post told them they were going to run the story on McCain corruption which currently occupies the top spot on the front page and is sure to stay there all day tomorrow. McCain needs some kind of diversion, some other so-called "campaign news" to draw network time away from the influence-peddling story.

And you're helping to push their stuff. That's really sad.

"The Democratic leadership is not only trying to nominate a young freshman senator who is under-qualified for the job, just because he's black, but they're willing to go with a candidate who has never won a truly contested contest against a viable opponent."

You mean Hillary? Rudy Giuliani dropped out of the first race; they ran a cypher against her in the second. And THAT, my friends, is the extent of her elective experience. First Lady doesn't count!

The text of the ColorofChange petition:

DNC Chair Howard Dean, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and superdelegates:

The Democratic Party is playing a dangerous game and I'm writing to ask that you bring it to an end.

It has come to my attention that elected officials and party leaders are actually considering using their status as "superdelegates" to hand the nomination to Hillary Clinton against the will of voters, an action that would disenfranchise millions.

Following this course would be a shocking attack on voting rights and democracy. It would also give your seal of approval to an "electability" strategy executed by stoking race-based fear and division among voters. We expect that from the Republicans; we fight them on it every year. But now the leadership of the Democratic Party is poised to cosign this strategy of division and disenfranchisement. This could be the worst mistake the party has ever made, yet it's being talked about as a legitimate way for this campaign to end.

The voters who have come out in record numbers to participate in the Democratic Party won't allow this to happen, and as the most visible leaders of the party, you must reject the idea that the nomination can be won with a strategy that preys on racism, sows division, and disenfranchises millions of voters.

Sincerely,

[Your name]

Not quite as Darryl Fears describes it, is it??

"The black activist Web site, ColorofChange.org, has circulated a petition threatening "serious consequences" if Clinton somehow succeeds at obtaining the Democratic nomination."

Just checked the "black activist Web site" cited in the article. "Serious consequences" was not found. It's supported by Julian Bond, for God's sake; not Louis Farrakhan. Where did the Post get the weenie who wrote this blather?

Incidentally, for what it's worth, the original post in "The Trail" is illiterate and poorly researched and written. The Post is paying people for this? For example, the bit about Hillary getting white support because of her husband....

It is sad to see a woman who claims to be qualified and able to lead this country act like a lithium-deficient buffon! She has insulted hard working people by reducing them to a "vote". She has zero use for ANYone that she can not "use". She lost the Black votes then she flipped to the closest mass voter group. She used fear for race-baiting. Working class is just her code for "White". She looks and sounds like a fool not a fighter. There will be a strong woman president someday. She will be respected and respect by ALL people. Hilly isn't a leader. Her last days are showing what a petty person she is and will destroy a nation to stroke her ego. She can run around in circles if she wants to keep "running", but she will not take us captive with her foolishness. It's her money she can waste it if she wants to. This campaign was her job audition. She will not get a call back! The crisp white sheet should be to cover her campaign and pronounce it DOA. Cause of death political suicide: stuck foot in mouth.

I would be very happy to have a female President; it's overdue. But Hillary isn't the one, and Michelle Obama isn't running this year.

"You're a verbally abusive Obama nut who is a Clinton supporter basher, like some black men who come online and vent hatred at white women who support Clinton, unloading demeaning and abusive language at them."

No, AsperGirl: you have a math problem, which you keep dodging by being female and a poor abused Clinton supporter. You claim to have an engineering degree. Prove it by addressing the mathematical issues, and quit hiding behind Hillary's petticoats!

I am white. I am horrified by the Clinton's use of race to try to divide the Democratic Party. Clinton only won Indiana by 14,000 votes. That means an awful lot of whites voted for Obama because the state is not 50% black. I am so disgusted with Clinton that I don't want to see her on the ticket. Is the Democratic Party going to stand for such a bigoted line. Hillary is not racist, but she is using a racist line here just to get elected even though it is impossible. That may be even more offensive to me than if she were a bigoted Republican. After all the uproar that Democrats have made over the years for Republicans saying anything that is bigoted, how can this party let Hillary get away with this constant divisive talk about race?

I am white. I am horrified by the Clinton's use of race to try to divide the Democratic Party. Clinton only won Indiana by 14,000 votes. That means an awful lot of whites voted for Obama because the state is not 50% black. I am so disgusted with Clinton that I don't want to see her on the ticket. Is the Democratic Party going to stand for such a bigoted line. Hillary is not racist, but she is using a racist line here just to get elected even though it is impossible. That may be even more offensive to me than if she were a bigoted Republican. After all the uproar that Democrats have made over the years for Republicans saying anything that is bigoted, how can this party let Hillary get away with this constant divisive talk about race?

"Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be."

Listen, AsperGirl! Obama doesn't have "8% of the electorate," you silly fool; he has more than 50%. Read the polls. Don't know where you get the 8% number; the only one I remember was that it was Hillary's percentage of the Black vote in Indiana [more than she deserved]. The Black vote is more than 8%, certainly a lot more than 8% of the Democratic Party vote; and you're omitting us overeducated white elitists who also back Obama.

Pretty sloppy math for a self-proclaimed engineering graduate. Online degree?

I am white. I am horrified by the Clinton's use of race to try to divide the Democratic Party. Clinton only won Indiana by 14,000 votes. That means an awful lot of whites voted for Obama because the state is not 50% black. I am so disgusted with Clinton that I don't want to see her on the ticket. Is the Democratic Party going to stand for such a bigoted line. Hillary is not racist, but she is using a racist line here just to get elected even though it is impossible. That may be even more offensive to me than if she were a bigoted Republican. After all the uproar that Democrats have made over the years for Republicans saying anything that is bigoted, how can this party let Hillary get away with this constant divisive talk about race?

I am white. I am horrified by the Clinton's use of race to try to divide the Democratic Party. Clinton only won Indiana by 14,000 votes. That means an awful lot of whites voted for Obama because the state is not 50% black. I am so disgusted with Clinton that I don't want to see her on the ticket. Is the Democratic Party going to stand for such a bigoted line. Hillary is not racist, but she is using a racist line here just to get elected even though it is impossible. That may be even more offensive to me than if she were a bigoted Republican. After all the uproar that Democrats have made over the years for Republicans saying anything that is bigoted, how can this party let Hillary get away with this constant divisive talk about race?

"Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be."

WHAT A FREAKING MORON! Listen, AsperGirl! Obama doesn't have "8% of the electorate," you silly fool; he has more than 50%. Read the polls. Don't know where you get the 8% number; the only one I remember was that it was Hillary's percentage of the Black vote in Indiana [more than she deserved]. The Black vote is more than 8%, certainly a lot more than 8% of the Democratic Party vote; and you're omitting us overeducated white elitists who also back Obama.

Pretty sloppy math for a self-proclaimed engineering graduate. Online degree?

tom wrote: "WHAT A FREAKING MORON!" in response to my posting the quote "Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be.

tom, I said I wasn't going to respond to you anymore. But you continue to post your verbally abusive, inappropriate and retarded arguments against me. Look at the post you are taking that passage from. I was quoting the passage from someone else's post. That's why there are quotation marks around the passage in my post.

Now, I'm really not going to respond to you anymore. You're a verbally abusive Obama nut who is a Clinton supporter basher, like some black men who come online and vent hatred at white women who support Clinton, unloading demeaning and abusive language at them.

Whatever your pathological issue is, you have a problem.

tom wrote: "WHAT A FREAKING MORON!" in response to my posting the quote "Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be.

tom, I said I wasn't going to respond to you anymore. But you continue to post your verbally abusive, inappropriate and retarded arguments against me. Look at the post you are taking that passage from. I was quoting the passage from someone else's post. That's why there are quotation marks around the passage in my post.

Now, I'm really not going to respond to you anymore. You're a verbally abusive Obama nut who is a Clinton supporter basher, like some black men who come online and vent hatred at white women who support Clinton, unloading demeaning and abusive language at them.

Whatever your pathological issue is, you have a problem.

tom wrote: "WHAT A FREAKING MORON!" in response to my posting the quote "Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be.

tom, I said I wasn't going to respond to you anymore. But you continue to post your verbally abusive, inappropriate and retarded arguments against me. Look at the post you are taking that passage from. I was quoting the passage from someone else's post. That's why there are quotation marks around the passage in my post.

Now, I'm really not going to respond to you anymore. You're a verbally abusive Obama nut who is a Clinton supporter basher, like some black men who come online and vent hatred at white women who support Clinton, unloading demeaning and abusive language at them.

Whatever your pathological issue is, you have a problem.

Oh, by the by Obama is going to lose.

The only good part about it is we (non cultist) will rub it in your face for 20-25 years until your moronic children grow up and vote for an ex-power ranger to lose the 8th election in a row.

I can't believe people who voted for bush twice have not killed or blinded themselves out of shame.

F U polosi (sp)

"Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be."

WHAT A FREAKING MORON! Listen, AsperGirl! Obama doesn't have "8% of the electorate," you silly fool; he has more than 50%. Read the polls. Don't know where you get the 8% number; the only one I remember was that it was Hillary's percentage of the Black vote in Indiana [more than she deserved]. The Black vote is more than 8%, certainly a lot more than 8% of the Democratic Party vote; and you're omitting us overeducated white elitists who also back Obama.

"Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be."

WHAT A FREAKING MORON! Listen, AsperGirl! Obama doesn't have "8% of the electorate," you silly fool; he has more than 50%. Read the statistics. Don't know where you get the 8% number; the only one I remember was that it was Hillary's percentage of the Black vote in Indiana. The Black vote is more than 8%, certainly a lot more than 8% of the Democratic Party vote; and you're omitting us overeducated white elitists who also back Obama.

Clinton takes Indiana by a 'razor' and Obama wins North Carolina by a huge margin. Nevertheless, Kentucky, Montana and West Virginia are still to come.

The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive - and most likely to be decided by superdelegates

If you're tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama

If you haven't done so yet, please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com

Obama Supporters:

Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It's that easy...

Clinton Supporters too .... !

It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth !

Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It's that easy...

Letter from McCain campaign describing the negative-attack campaign tactics that we've watched Obama use against Clinton all season:

"To: Interested Parties
From: Mark Salter, Senior Advisor

Date: May 8, 2008

Re: Senator Obama's Attack Today

"First, let us be clear about the nature of Senator Obama's attack today: He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.

"We have all become familiar with Senator Obama's new brand of politics. First, you demand civility from your opponent, then you attack him, distort his record and send out surrogates to question his integrity. It is called hypocrisy, and it is the oldest kind of politics there is.

"It is important to focus on what Senator Obama is attempting to do here: He is trying desperately to delegitimize the discussion of issues that raise legitimate questions about his judgment and preparedness to be President of the United States.

"Through their actions and words, Senator Obama and his supporters have made clear that ANY criticism on ANY issue -- from his desire to raise taxes on millions of small investors to his radical plans to sit down face-to-face with Iranian President Ahmadinejad -- constitute negative, personal attacks.

"Senator Obama is hopeful that the media will continue to form a protective barrier around him, declaring serious limits to the questions, discussion and debate in this race...."

Full letter on http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/05/mccain_obama_camps_trade_fire.html

Letter from McCain campaign describing the negative-attack campaign tactics that we've watched Obama use against Clinton all season:

"To: Interested Parties
From: Mark Salter, Senior Advisor

Date: May 8, 2008

Re: Senator Obama's Attack Today

"First, let us be clear about the nature of Senator Obama's attack today: He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.

"We have all become familiar with Senator Obama's new brand of politics. First, you demand civility from your opponent, then you attack him, distort his record and send out surrogates to question his integrity. It is called hypocrisy, and it is the oldest kind of politics there is.

"It is important to focus on what Senator Obama is attempting to do here: He is trying desperately to delegitimize the discussion of issues that raise legitimate questions about his judgment and preparedness to be President of the United States.

"Through their actions and words, Senator Obama and his supporters have made clear that ANY criticism on ANY issue -- from his desire to raise taxes on millions of small investors to his radical plans to sit down face-to-face with Iranian President Ahmadinejad -- constitute negative, personal attacks.

"Senator Obama is hopeful that the media will continue to form a protective barrier around him, declaring serious limits to the questions, discussion and debate in this race...."

Full letter on http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/05/mccain_obama_camps_trade_fire.html

They said Hillary's campaign was for the advancement of women.

This is what Hillary's campaign has taught me:

I used to think women were less racist than men. I no longer believe that. It makes me sad.

Senator Obama has earned more delegates from states with miniscule people of African American heritage than from states where the "black" vote was a dominant percentage of his total. Are there no working class whites in all those states? I'm betting some of the folks in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Wyoming, Idaho, etc. would take issue with that assertion.

The assertion at the top of the column is simply false.

"Obama may be manipulating the Democratic party using 8% of the electorate as leverage, but Clinton is holding all the cards to his win in the Fall. He won't get elected if she doesn't want him to be."

WHAT A FREAKING MORON! Listen, AsperGirl! Obama doesn't have "8% of the electorate," you silly fool; he has more than 50%. Read the statistics. Don't know where you get the 8% number; the only one I remember was that it was Hillary's percentage of the Black vote in Indiana. The Black vote is more than 8%, certainly a lot more than 8% of the Democratic Party vote; and you're omitting us overeducated white elitists who also back Obama.

"How very sad that we as white people would reject a wonderful person because of skin color."

It's a disgrace that the Democrats would go for an under-qualified, freshman U.S. senator who four years ago was a young and callow state senator, just because he's black and a good rhetorical performer.

Obama's never even won an election outright, all the way to the finish line, against a tough opponent. He's had his opponents disqualified, or they imploded on their own or were never viable.

That is why Obama has led his fan base in the media and his supporters on the left into this months-long tirade against Clinton to "drop out". Since when is it the obligation of an opponent to drop out of a race? Only in Obama world.

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