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Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) speaks with children at the West Virginia State Capitol May 8, 2008, in Charleston, W.Va.
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By Perry Bacon Jr.
CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Looking for a rationale to continue her campaign, Hillary Clinton is more than ever making the argument that the coalition of voters backing her would make her a stronger candidate than Barack Obama in a general election.

"The delegate math may get complicated, but the electoral math is easy; we need 270 electoral votes to win in November," Clinton said at a rally at the State Capitol in Charleston, W.Va.

"We're going to have to run a vigorous, victorious campaign, and that's why I'm building such a strong and broad coalition among the states we must have to deliver the campaign. My campaign is winning swing states, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Arkansas, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico and, yes, Florida and Michigan."

She repeatedly referred to her appeal among "hardworking Americans" and said "I'm winning Catholic voters, Hispanic voters, blue-collar voters and seniors, the kind of people who Senator McCain will be fighting for in the general election." She did not repeat the term "white voters," after citing a poll showing her appeal with whites in an interview with USA Today.

"Some call you swing voters, but I call you Americans," she added.

Clinton's case for her electability at this point in the campaign cycle is hotly disputed. While the Democratic delegate allocation is as complicated as Clinton says, by every measure, Barack Obama holds a strong lead. Obama did not compete in Florida and Michigan, and he has won a bunch of swing states as well, including Iowa, Minnesota, Colorado, Wisconsin and Virginia.

Clinton's support among another key voting block for Democrats, African Americans, has been considerably lower than Obama's among white working-class voters, despite his struggles to attract them.

But Clinton, echoing the case she has made for weeks as some Obama supporters have encouraged her to leave the race, say she was providing an opportunity for people to vote.

"I think we ought to keep this going so the people of West Virginia's voices are heard," Clinton said.

Posted at 1:47 PM ET on May 8, 2008
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America, America, God shed his grace on thee.

Then why are we letting an anti-American, unpatriotic, charlatan who stated from his own lips before speaking to a packed crowd in North Carolina, "Watch me wow these white folks" be our nominee?

Obama will lose in November and all because we, America allowed a few spoken words to woo the White House away from us.

His associations show us Obama lacks judgment.

I suppose under God's guidance, since I lived through the Bush years, I will survive this fool's one four year term unscathed if America allows this fraud into the White House.

70% of we Democrats will not vote for Obama; however, since Michigan and Florida do not count I suppose our voices do not either.

Without Hillary Clinton on the top of the ticket, with or without the loser Edwards on the the fraud Obama ticket, Obama will NEVER get my vote.

I'd rather be a McCain Democrat than see the fraud Obama in the White House.

This is not borne out of racism; for I am an African American informed Democrat.

God Bless America.

Posted by: Informed Democrat | May 15, 2008 10:02 AM

that bad, bad, Hillary. Thing is - she may just be right.

I didn't like the "white" comment (and she apologized). But it's funny, when Obama made his "bitter" comments all his supporters were quick to say how he just "phrased it badly" - no such understanding for Hillary.

Posted by: democracyforever | May 12, 2008 12:52 PM

For that anonymous person who posted stuff about Obama's Senate record that supposedly is going to hurt him against McCain. I don't get what your beef is, unless you're a Republican. The Democratic Party is Pro-Choice, for gun-control, and Obama made the right choices in those bills you list, if they are true. I live in IL and there is 3 riverboats within 15 minutes of my house. The gambling industry wants more riverboats, and the IL legislature said "No" to any more of them. We have enough, even though I love the riverboats. lol Obama was right. Also, nothing is wrong with his position on handguns. He doesn't ban them altogether. He says one per month with a background check. ONE IS ENOUGH! There are kids killing kids every day all over this country. Somebody has to take a stand to keep the influx of guns off the streets. You're a putz if you think it's okay to have as many guns as you can fit into your pickup truck.

Posted by: All American---> | May 11, 2008 6:20 AM

Hillary is a total disappointment to the women's movement. We don't have to carry ourselves the way Hillary did/does to prove our worth. Hillary is destroying the chances for the women coming up behind her, but she doesn't care about that. All she cares about is HILLARY. Her race-baiting is despictable and Bill is also a disgrace. His character is no greater than that monster, GWBush. They had the black vote to lose, and they did a good job of doing just that. Now, blacks all over this country hate Hillary and Bill, but has Hillary once reached out to blacks and asked for their vote? No. Blacks don't matter to Hillary Clinton, only whites. Not Asians, not American Indians, not Latino's (unless it's time for you to vote in Texas), not anybody but poor, dumb, old white ladies. That's who she said she cared about, and those who have crossed her will get the same response that white, rural voters got when they didn't vote for Bill Clinton in '02, "Screw 'em!". That woman is a snake to the third degree. She is not fit for public office with her racial bias and race baiting. She has yet to learn that we are all the same in the eyes of God, and by the little known document in Washington, ie, the Constitution. I hope she loses all of her money and Karma comes back to bite her on her wrinkled, racist butt.

Posted by: All American---> | May 11, 2008 6:03 AM

Hillary Gunning for VP Spot

One campaign insider says that Hillary at this point is actually resigned to not getting the nomination, and that the reason she has been staying in and pressing on is to prove her indispensability to the ticket for the VP nod. The reasoning goes that by having split the democratic voters-- and also not incidentally activating significant numbers if them to get involved, to make a choice, and to vote--she has proven her indispensability to winning back the White House for the Democrats.She has exposed Obama's polling weaknesses. Either he can cede the blue collar and conservative Democrats to McCain, or he can pick up Hillary and pick up those voters too.
Further, it is interesting that McCain, smelling blood in the water, has started to go after the blue-collar Clinton Democrats. Because not only can Hillary deliver a huge percentage of those voters back to the Obama and the Democratic ticket. Hillary's presence on the Obama ticket additionally has the ability to cut into McCain's support among the moderates and independents who see her and McCain as good on security and defense issues, while they feel Obama is not. This could have been the Clintons' stragey in aligning her more with McCain on certain issues all along. The takeaway here is, with Hillary and Obama, you get Obama and McCain (and Hillary). If people had begun seeing Hillary and McCain as interchangeable during primaries--but just with different parties, then it could turn out that McCain has a tough time down the road diferentiating himself, when for so long now, in order to deliver blows to Obama, both Hillary and he have been saying how similary they are to one another.
She can play the bad cop to his good cop, just as McCain gets to play good cop, while the RNC and other surrogates can play bad cop, while he goes on disavowing them.In the end the brilliance of the Clintons' political thinking will vindicate what has so far been considered to be divisive, and counterproductive Democratic goals.

Posted by: TrueBlog.Org | May 11, 2008 2:01 AM

Clinton Argues She Has the Broader Coalition

Hillary may argue that she has the broader coalition. However, she should then do the next best thing with her arguement. That would be to communicate with her broader coalition the fact that unity is nescessary to bring the concerns and interests of all on one accord that we can together make a change for a better tommorrow for all despite whomever the nominee is, as long as it is a democrat. I understands and I respect Hillary's point in this matter, however, for the love and concern for the American people, she would express the reality to unite that all concerns for a democracy is needed to accommodate the America's falling status at present. Being divided at a time such as this will only handicapp and further destruct our country, therefore, I conclude that Hillary would pass on deep concerns for unity despite the broader coalition's choice of candidate, move on pass that stigma, unite and let's do this thing together, that Obama will become the democratic president for the good of all, as that is his concern for all.

Posted by: Nisey01 | May 10, 2008 5:47 AM

Hillary doesn't shave her legs.

Posted by: hammerdown | May 10, 2008 5:13 AM

Hillary is subtracting key groups from her equation and will lose the support of remaining African Americans who were hers to keep and Obama to win. When Bill opened his mouth and called Barack's campaign a "fairytale" the exodus began. With Richardson endorsing Obama my extended South of the Border immigrant family, did a Texas 2 step towards Obama. Now Hillay has coined herself "Queen of the Uneducated White Voters" and she in truly scraping the bottom of the barrel and playing the race card once again bringing it to a cliche status. Yes We Can, Si Se Puede. She is doing Obama a big favor, keep stumping Hillary we need you.

Posted by: clarity2 | May 10, 2008 1:48 AM

Hillbilly are mad as hell and hopefully they won't be able to take it anymore!

Go Hillary go, Go AWAY!
Hillary has the "working, hard working white vote." Good luck getting elected without all of those unemployed lazy blacks and latinos.I agree with carolinagirl | May 8, 2008 1:51 PM


Hillary is subtracting key groups from her equation and will lose the support of remaining African Americans who were hers to keep and Obama to win. When Bill opened his mouth and called Barack's campaign a "fairytale" the exodus began. With Richardson endorsing Obama my extended South of the Boarder immigrants family, did a Texas 2 step towards Obama. Now Hillay has coined herself "Queen of the Uneducated White Voters" and she in truly scraping the bottom of the barrel and playing the race card once again bringing it to a cliche status. Yes We Can, Si Se Puede. She is doing Obama a big favor, keep stumping Hillary we need you.

Posted by: | May 10, 2008 1:46 AM

Hillary Powerpoint presentation to Selected Superdelegates leaked!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRsm3wAMns

Posted by: Mary | May 9, 2008 11:37 PM

Sen. Obama is doing an excellent job appealing to all voters--including working class voters even as certain polls and media headlines seem to have their own corporate agendas.

Here is how Sen. Obama appeals to the working class:

Opposed the war in Iraq from the start. Money spent on Iraq could be better spent on the home turf in multitudes of ways to provide more jobs in the U.S.

Supports green jobs.

Is sensitive to lower income working class and their economic challenges--color of skin unimportant.

Takes the long term view for real solutions to consumer and working class problems--ie: Social Security, Health Care, Consumer Issues.

Is honest, courageous, hard-working, and ethical himself.

A family man.

Best to all. Kathleen from Haines, Alaska

Please Take Note: Alaska 74% for Obama with a 1169% increase in Democratic participants in 2008 primary caucuses over 2004. Alaska has a lot of working class and independently minded voters. Sen. Obama is going to make a fine President!

Posted by: Kathleen from Alaska | May 9, 2008 11:04 PM

Clinton's arguments for staying in the nomination race are racists ... To suggest that anyone would not vote for an east indian in Louisiana, a chinese in washington state just because of their color or race is absolutely the lowest in desperation ... I have lost respect for this family ... I purchased all of their books ... and held them in high esteem until what I have seen in the last week or so

Posted by: Gone | May 9, 2008 2:55 PM

To those of you who want the Democratic nominee to win in November:

Shouting that Hillary Clinton is racist because she quoted an AP article that shows she has a better chance of winning the blue-collar workers than Barack Obama, is shooting oneself in the foot. She is simply pointing out the facts of life in America today : Obama may do well among some demographic groups, but she does well among larger voting blocs. I regret as much as anyone that race continues to be a factor , but when political analysts try to dissect primary results, it is inevitable.

Stop your yelling for a minute and think: Do you want McCain to win because superdelegates ignored these facts of life?

Posted by: Grandma | May 9, 2008 1:17 PM

DennisB:

I will probably have to vote for a third party candidate again this time -- unless McCain makes it close here in California, in which case, I will vote for him -- as you know, I don't mind sharing my thoughts (just be careful confusing my thoughts with those of FAKE JakeD ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 12:37 PM

HILLARY SPEAKS IN CODED LANGUAGE.

Below is a Hillary supporter's comment, who has released the uncoded version of Hillary's message.

See below:

Hillary has the "working, hard working white vote." Good luck getting elected without all of those unemployed lazy blacks and latinos.

Posted by: carolinagirl | May 8, 2008 1:51 PM


IS REV. WRIGHT HILLARY'S . . . . . ALTER EGO?

Posted by: | May 9, 2008 12:16 PM

Hillary, I doubt calling your supporters fat is really going to help!

Posted by: Broader | May 9, 2008 12:07 PM

OBAMA LEADS in SUPERS ABC

FEW CONSTESTs REMAIN
173or 168? TO 2025 and dropping like IRON WEIGHT to NOMINATION

MAJOR Remaining contest:

STATE OF DENIAL-260 Delegates (SUPER DELEGATES)

Posted by: delgate math | May 9, 2008 11:16 AM

A question for JakeD. I've been entertained by reading your rants against Obama and your raves about Hillary, but now that you've admitted that she won't be the nominee, whom will you support?

As a registered Independent, will you support the old white guy (Hillary's most dependable demographic, next to old white women)? Or will you support the young guy who offers something besides the usual brand of attack politics we've grown accustomed to?

Just wondering, because this old white guy, a Vietnam vet like McCain, ardently supports Obama, as do all four of my children, and four of my six grandkids (the ones old enough to vote).

I don't care who you support, JakeD - that's your business. But would you care to share your thoughts?

Posted by: Dennis B | May 9, 2008 11:03 AM

I have another complaint now. As my wife would be happy to tell you, I'm full of them. Especially when my hernia is acting up, or I'm constipated, or both (like right now!) Anyway, my new grump is this: now that Hillary has been dissed and dismissed by the American voter, you would think I'd be pleased, right? Especially with the success of John McCain, my brother in bowel pain. (Not only does it rhyme, but I'm sure it's true. Just watch his face sometime when he has to bend over too quickly!) However, I am now facing a long stretch of minimal abuse potential.
I can't slam McCain - not that I ever would - and I can only accuse Obama of playing the race card a limited number of times before even the dimmest reader will begin to realize that in doing so, I am cheaply playing it myself.
And of course Hillary is good for a chuckle now, but people will soon actively be trying to forget her as quickly as they can. I know I worked up a sweat doing so this morning, but I couldn't quite lose the pantsuits and the laugh.
So for therapeutic reasons, I hope one of you can help me with some ideas for how to spend my time now that the source of my best material has - thankfully - melted, sobbing "What a world, what a world." My work is done, yet I feel incomplete without a target. Suggestions?

Posted by: JakeD | May 9, 2008 9:46 AM

Well, jacksmith, apparently you think a majority of Democrats and independents might be idiots.

Including a majority of those posting here.

Admit it.

Posted by: proud to be an idiot | May 9, 2008 9:31 AM

If a Repub had said what Hillary said, he'd be crucified as a racist. If Obama had marginalized working-class whites the same way that Clinton marginalized blacks, he'd be called all kinds of a racist.

It's not about accuracy, it's about SENTIMENT. Rev. Wright was right in many respects, but he proved hmiself to be full of anti-American sentiment, and THAT is what bothered people about him (and, by association, Obama). Geraldine Ferraro was right in many respects, but her sentiments were polarizing. And she had to go. Now the candidate herself -- not her preacher, not her fundraiser, not her husband -- HILLARY CLINTON HERSELF -- has made a far more racist statement than any of them. Dems need to kick her to the curb, now, and show there is no place in the party for abject racists.

Or, they can simply concede that Dems are inherently no more friendly to blacks than Repubs, which is what I've been saying for decades.

Bottom line: if Obama was wrong for staying in Wright's church, Clinton has to be ten times wronger for uttering Wright-like racial pandering. Here's the audio, listed for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfidftLe5Z0

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 9, 2008 8:44 AM

I am a long time Democrat and an old white woman, and I would not vote for Hillary under any circumstances. I used to love both Bill and Hillary, but now see her as a nut case obsessed with the presidency. She needs to exit gracefully and let the Democrats get on with beating McCain, but I firmly believe she will have to be dragged out of the race kicking and screaming. Where are the gutless wonder super delegates, who ARE super delegates so they can make this decision? What a bunch of ball-less wimps.

Posted by: Kathy Indiana | May 9, 2008 8:22 AM

Hillary has a much broader coalition than Obama. If her coalition gets any broader she may have to go for the Jenny Craig vote. Now Obamas' coalition is on the skinny side, he needs some good soul cookin' to broaden up his coalition a bit.

Posted by: hammerdown | May 9, 2008 6:52 AM

Is it just me or does anyone else notice that Hillarys' rear end seem to be getting larger as the campaign rolls along?

Posted by: hammerdown | May 9, 2008 6:45 AM

"Not over until the fat lady sings ... "

I think the "fat lady" sang yesterday, loud and clear: "hardworking Americans, white Americans...." One of the all-time great sound bites!

Posted by: tom | May 9, 2008 2:51 AM

Here's the audio of Hillary marginalizing the black vote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfidftLe5Z0


New Hillary campaign slogans:

In your heart, you know she's white.

Things were better in the 90s. The 1890s.

Why do you think they call it the WHITE House?

Not everyone has a role.

A hardworking white person. Just like you.

Arbeit macht frei.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 9, 2008 1:48 AM

There was a time when most of us would have been naive to all of this "code" speech Hillary is spewing. She is using words to prey on people who would rather HATE than come together.

I would rather she had worn a Hood and Sheet than to see her face-to-face stooping so low.

Is there a chance at all that someone in her "coalition" group there in West Virginia could challenge her here? Or does she really know the audience she's speaking to?

Posted by: Reggie Boykins | May 9, 2008 1:42 AM

I find Clinton's assertion that only she can get the "working, hard working white vote" offensive. I attended my local caucus, and discovered most of my neighbors support Obama. I live in a neighborhood that could be described as mostly "hard working white". Clinton's assertion is offensive because she is dishonoring the voting results of several states. Also, her assertion is offensive because it continues to beat on voters of color. I would expect Clinton to conduct herself with more dignity.

Posted by: richard | May 9, 2008 12:11 AM

I listened Barack Obama interview today 05/08/08 and saw in him the spirit of a true leader, the way he was answering the questions put before him. he did not put down Hillary Clinton dsespite Hilarry campaigning against him. Rather, He praised her and believed that they can walk together to achieve a win come Nov. general election. Hilarry is a great woman and she has putten up a good fight, but she should accept the reality now and join Obama to form a stronger team to fight John Mccain, I Believe God has Appointed Obama to be the president of America now, there is nothing any body can do about it. To denial him the norminee is accepting that there is uncontrolable racial discrimination in America system. The whole world is watching American political sysatem as it lays example for other countries around the world to follow. Human colour should not ber the perimeter of who will govern the country.for no one have ever gone to God, and ask Him to make him white or black, skin colour is nothing but a mere porter's paint. Americans should frawn over colour or racial discrimination and unit together to build a more stronger nation. I believe Obama, is like Nelson Madela of sourth Africa, who stood to recouncil the differebces between back and white, and unites the country to move on.In the same manner Obama is risen to unify the country as one entitity and to rebuild the fallen international reputation of the American society. In no doubt I see Obama as instrument of recounciliation. I pray that the superdelegates will have the right judment, and give chance to the person norminated by Americans. Many based, their talking down Obama on experience, Wisdom comes from God, not all those that have mere experience of white house can govern America, but one endowned with great wisdom and understanding from God,If obama will totally depend on God, for wisdom, he will obviously make difference, by bringing a formadable change in American polity and in the entire society. The God that gave Solomon wisdom in the Bible will be his God, to face day to dy run of a complicated situations and making hard decision.and above all give him wisdom and understand to lead American to another leve of abundant blessings. All those who watch obama speak, knows that he has exceptional wisdom in answering questions put before him. may God guide Americans and Democrate superdelegates to make a rightful choice, based on the will of Americans, not manipulating the desire and will of common men. May God bless America. from Brown -- Canada

Posted by: Mike Brown | May 8, 2008 11:56 PM

June 7th that is the day we can finally bury Hillary in a lonely political grave somewhere with probably no name on the tombstone. She is crisp fried to a crackly crunch and will come out of the oven she put herself into by then.

We can all not care about her or anything she has to say about anything by then so our reprieve is only three weeks away. Fret not Obama nation all is good. Our campaign is flush with cash because our educated team has raised and spent the money wisely not thrown it away on Mark Penn types.

After the 7th of June when our man is the "official" nominee of the party 1.5 million supporters will be unleashed on the landscape of this race and we will trounce Mr McCain and his disingenuous we will run a clean campaign except for the comments about Hamas supporting Barack.

A new day in politics is upon us and that is like fresh air in a dingy moldy world that McCain and Clinton thrived in for years. Let the sunshine folks.

Vote Barack Obama for the good of our country.

Posted by: Sam Slater | May 8, 2008 11:18 PM

Hillaary is a pig who will attempt anything to steal the election from the best candidate to come along in the Democratic party for a long time. She is a piss poor loser like a little league player who wont shake hands after a losing game. She has consistently shown her lack of character and this is just another straw. I am excited that Barack Obama is our candidate period and would only be peeved beyond control if Barack put her on the ticket in the V.P. slot. Wake up America you cannot put enough lipstick on this pig. she is a proven liar and displays her lack of teamwork and decency once more. I am an educated Harvard MBA white person another group she does not consider matter along with those who are black, anyone from a caucus state and all who went to college. We don't need you to win this election so don't go away mad just go away Hillary. You are causing me to vomit in my mouth every time I see you lack of of decency and honor.

p.s. JakeD you too can f off..

Posted by: JOE BENTO | May 8, 2008 11:02 PM

svliar's up to it again. I guess the gunman's back.

Larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com. Yeah, THERE'S a responsible source for news and info. What's next, www.stormfront.org?

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 11:00 PM


Who is Larry Sinclair?

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 10:57 PM

Obama= drugs, murder, gay sex, terrorist.
lease Go to Larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com for more info.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 10:39 PM

"Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.""

WOW. Maybe George Will is right -- Hillary DOES consider black votes to be worth on 3/5ths of a white vote. She deserves to be CRUCIFIED (figuratively speaking) for this one. This is worse than the LBJ crack, by miles.

She's certainly not going out gracefully.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 8, 2008 10:38 PM

You know I'm a huge Hillary supporter, but I have came to terms that she will not be the nominee....So it is time to rally behind Obama and win this election.....i do hope he does select her as running mate, as I do think he needs her to win the election, if not its going to go to McCain....i know there has been nasty words between them, but that didn't stop Kennedy selection LBJ as his running mate and they WON....they both hated each other, but you need to put those things aside when it comes down to politics etc.....Obama has 51% of support from the Dems and she 49%....

If he doesn't choose her, I don't see him wining against McCain in the general election....and we know that the general election is harder then the primaries.....but if he loses to McCain, I'm sure we will see our girl Hillary appear again in 2012 to win back the white house that she was suppose to win in 2008 and say "I TOLD YOU SO

Posted by: Daniel | May 8, 2008 10:02 PM

you know i'm a huge HILLARY supporter...but i have cae to terms with the fact that she isn't going to be the nominee....she had ran a strong campaign....it was a shame that we had both of them running at the same time....i hope Obama picks' her as a running mate....if she has 49% of voters and he 51% thats 100% support....and i know they have dissed each other pretty badly, but hey that didn't stop Kennedy from selecting LBJ as his running mate and they WON...what does that say....

I personal do not think he cld win without her on the ticket....and i think without her, he isn't going to win the election....Primaries are completely different to the Election and anything could happen....and i see McCain wining over Obama without Clinton on the ticket.....and in saying that i do really see Clinton running in 2012 and getting the nomination then....

Posted by: Daniel | May 8, 2008 9:51 PM

why aren't blacks racist b/c we vote overwhelmingly for Obama, b/c we are voting for Barack rather than voting against Hiliary b/c she's white or a woman (which would make us sexist and not racist). In January, blacks backed Hillary until she started making inappropriate comments after loosing SC. Also, like any rationale person, we love to be inspired and can tell when politicans are just pandering like Hillary is doing, why do you think we voted against Bush, both times!! And note, Obama is winning states that don't have many AA's at all.

So put that in your pipes and smoke it.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 9:31 PM

Unfortunately, Hillary is not winning the MOST voters.

They give the electoral votes to the candidate with the MOST voters.

I guess she missed the memo.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 8, 2008 9:25 PM

Funny... I bet you all dont know this, but Obama ran tv ads in Michigan and Florida. Hillary didnt. He will lose in November. Hillary is the best nominee... WAKE UP, if it aint her I'm voting McCain....

Posted by: Roger | May 8, 2008 9:20 PM

DON'T BE DUPED !!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. "Carpe diem" (harvest the day). You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! OUT GUNNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. Maybe it's time for Hillary to start thinking about switching to an INDEPENDENT run for the presidency. Wipe the slate clean. After all she is running to be the President of all the people. She, Bill, and Chelsea would cream everyone. You know it's true. :-)

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | May 8, 2008 9:16 PM

Good Going DNC you didnt count Florida or Michigan and that gave Obama a boost had she had those states in the beggining she would be the nominee. Now since you have managed to alienate those two states the Dems wont win. Obama isnt going to change anything, DC will NEVER CHANGE. Hillary could bring change because she has connections in congress. I wont support Obama and I will make my case to everyone I know. Were going to vote McCain. Congrats DNC, you blew it again. All you Obama supporters are stupid and fooling yourselves... I bet you all voted for Nader before too. LOL idiots

Posted by: Todd. | May 8, 2008 9:08 PM

Poster: | May 8, 2008 7:56 PM

No of course Obama wouldn't say something like that....Oh wait, so soon we forget what he said in SF and lets not forget what he said about "typical white people"!
Right Obama would never say anything like that-NOT.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 8:09 PM

The bottom figure is that both Obama and Clinton are polling ahead of McCain now and should easily defeat McCain this November. We will go through the motions of these last primaries, seat the delegates of FL and MI as fairly as possible, and then the superdelegates will be on board with Obama because by June 3, Obama will not only have more pledged delegates, I predict he will have more superdelegates as well. We will have 5 months to heal this idiotic rift that has formed in the democratic party. We must avoid 4 more years of Bush-like policies. I have faith we will pull together when it counts.

Posted by: Ted in Pittsburgh | May 8, 2008 8:05 PM

Good point. I hardly work more than 70 hours a week. I'm obviously one of those lazy slackers for Obama.

Posted by: Katy | May 8, 2008 7:59 PM

" Substitute these same words with Obama as the speaker and then you be the judge. "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," he said in the interview, citing an article by The Associated Press.
It "found how Senator Clinton's support among working, hard-working Americans, black Americans, is weakening again, and how blacks in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," he said.

Would you call him a race-baiter? Of course not."

You would, and the point of course is that he wouldn't say something like that in the first place.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 7:56 PM

Substitute these same words with Obama as the speaker and then you be the judge. "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," he said in the interview, citing an article by The Associated Press.
It "found how Senator Clinton's support among working, hard-working Americans, black Americans, is weakening again, and how blacks in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," he said.

Would you call him a race-baiter? Of course not.

Also,it seems to be perfectly OK to cast the Clinton's as racist, yet their entire history has been to promote all individuals[black, hispanic, asian, native americans and white].
So now that there is a candidate that is AA, over 90% of AA vote for this candidate, NOW who is racist? I guess in the AA community the Clintons were only great until someone who was black came along. Then it would seem that Clintons were the ones who were used by the AA community.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 7:52 PM

Gee, code words don't work so well when you first divulge the code.

Hardworking?

Apparently Obama has won only by carrying the slothful vote; it's a wonder they ever made it to the polls. Or maybe only a certain demographic of his support is lazy? Can you clarify for us Hillary?

Or better, get real and go home. The idea of your winning the nomination or the general election is a fairy tale.


Posted by: Tom S | May 8, 2008 7:34 PM

OOPS!DID HILARY FINALLY SHOW HER TRUE COLOR(S)...NO PUN INTENDED.

Posted by: BOO-HOO | May 8, 2008 6:52 PM

It seems to me that most of the facts are accurately reported by Mr. Hitchens on May 8 at 6:23 PM. The only damaging evidence omitted was the unfortunate plight of 45-60 members of the "Clinton team" that met an untimely "accidental" demise when they were about to "squeal". Other than that, Mr. Hitchen's article is so well written that it probably would not be understood by Hillary's "base".

Posted by: Nam Vet 64 | May 8, 2008 6:48 PM

I don't think she has a broader coalition. If she had we would have seen that in the results. She definitely has a broader hip than Obama, a fatter head than Obama, and a shallow heart than Obama.

Posted by: Joan Wheeler | May 8, 2008 6:45 PM

The democrats.. held hostage by 92% of the vote of 8% of the population.

geez

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 6:44 PM

Why do people get accused 'racists' when they are speaking the truth? why is it that it is ok for 91% of the Blacks to vote for an AA and these Blacks are not called racists? If it is ok for the blacks, then it should also be ok for 91% of non-black to vote for the non-black candidate. Let's play by the same rule and Obama and his supporters should stop the double talk.
Obama's win in NC proves beyond any doubt that he is a racially-based candidate. He can't win the general election with just the blacks and the young. It would be another 'Tsongas' election! Clinton's win in Indiana, by a slim margin, also raises the big question why Obama lost a state that he is supposed to win!
Clinton also started out about 23 points behind in North Carolina, and 8 or 10 points behind in Indiana. She narrowed the gap in NC, and won in Indiana. Can you imagine what would be the headlines if the situation was reversed? probably "Obama trounced Clinton with a huge 2% margin". And she did it with Obama continuing to outspend her by 3 or 4:1.
The media continues to be anti-Clinton. Her win should be presented in the proper context of the quality of each of these candidates' electability!

Posted by: vote4thebest | May 8, 2008 6:37 PM

The best thing now is to just completely ignore Hillary. This primary race is over. Now, let's just hope she does NOT find a way to get attached to the ticket as VP.

NO Hillary on the ticket. Please keep her far, far away.

Posted by: WilyUSA | May 8, 2008 6:28 PM

The Case Against Hillary Clinton
WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE CHOOSE TO PUT THE CLINTON FAMILY DRAMA AT THE CENTER OF OUR POLITICS AGAIN?
By Christopher Hitchens

Hillary Clinton
Seeing the name Hillary in a headline last week--a headline about a life that had involved real achievement--I felt a mouse stirring in the attic of my memory. Eventually, I was able to recall how the two Hillarys had once been mentionable in the same breath. On a first-lady goodwill tour of Asia in April 1995--the kind of banal trip that she now claims as part of her foreign-policy "experience"--Mrs. Clinton had been in Nepal and been briefly introduced to the late Sir Edmund Hillary, conqueror of Mount Everest. Ever ready to milk the moment, she announced that her mother had actually named her for this famous and intrepid explorer. The claim "worked" well enough to be repeated at other stops and even showed up in Bill Clinton's memoirs almost a decade later, as one more instance of the gutsy tradition that undergirds the junior senator from New York.
Sen. Clinton was born in 1947, and Sir Edmund Hillary and his partner Tenzing Norgay did not ascend Mount Everest until 1953, so the story was self-evidently untrue and eventually yielded to fact-checking. Indeed, a spokeswoman for Sen. Clinton named Jennifer Hanley phrased it like this in a statement in October 2006, conceding that the tale was untrue but nonetheless charming: "It was a sweet family story her mother shared to inspire greatness in her daughter, to great results I might add."
Perfect. It worked, in other words, having been coined long after Sir Edmund became a bankable celebrity, but now its usefulness is exhausted and its untruth can safely be blamed on Mummy. Yet isn't it all--all of it, every single episode and detail of the Clinton saga--exactly like that? And isn't some of it a little bit more serious? For Sen. Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. And we are all supposed to applaud the skill and the bare-faced bravado with which this is done. In the New Hampshire primary in 1992, she knowingly lied about her husband's uncontainable sex life and put him eternally in her debt. This is now thought of, and referred to in print, purely as a smart move on her part. In the Iowa caucuses of 2008, he returns the favor by telling a huge lie about his own record on the war in Iraq, falsely asserting that he was opposed to the intervention from the very start. This is thought of, and referred to in print, as purely a tactical mistake on his part: trying too hard to help the spouse. The happy couple has now united on an equally mendacious account of what they thought about Iraq and when they thought it. What would it take to break this cheap little spell and make us wake up and inquire what on earth we are doing when we make the Clinton family drama--yet again--a central part of our own politics?

What do you have to forget or overlook in order to desire that this dysfunctional clan once more occupies the White House and is again in a position to rent the Lincoln Bedroom to campaign donors and to employ the Oval Office as a massage parlor? You have to be able to forget, first, what happened to those who complained, or who told the truth, last time. It's often said, by people trying to show how grown-up and unshocked they are, that all Clinton did to get himself impeached was lie about sex. That's not really true. What he actually lied about, in the perjury that also got him disbarred, was the women. And what this involved was a steady campaign of defamation, backed up by private dicks (you should excuse the expression) and salaried government employees, against women who I believe were telling the truth. In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton. (For the full background on this, see the chapter "Is There a Rapist in the Oval Office?" in the paperback version of my book No One Left To Lie To. This essay, I may modestly say, has never been challenged by anybody in the fabled Clinton "rapid response" team.) Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's "issues."
One also hears a great deal about how this awful joint tenure of the executive mansion was a good thing in that it conferred "experience" on the despised and much-deceived wife. Well, the main "experience" involved the comprehensive fouling-up of the nation's health-care arrangements, so as to make them considerably worse than they had been before and to create an opening for the worst-of-all-worlds option of the so-called HMO, combining as it did the maximum of capitalist gouging with the maximum of socialistic bureaucracy. This abysmal outcome, forgiven for no reason that I can perceive, was the individual responsibility of the woman who now seems to think it entitles her to the presidency. But there was another "experience," this time a collaborative one, that is even more significant.
During the Senate debate on the intervention in Iraq, Sen. Clinton made considerable use of her background and "experience" to argue that, yes, Saddam Hussein was indeed a threat. She did not argue so much from the position adopted by the Bush administration as she emphasized the stand taken, by both her husband and Al Gore, when they were in office, to the effect that another and final confrontation with the Baathist regime was more or less inevitable. Now, it does not especially matter whether you agree or agreed with her about this (as I, for once, do and did). What does matter is that she has since altered her position and attempted, with her husband's help, to make people forget that she ever held it. And this, on a grave matter of national honor and security, merely to influence her short-term standing in the Iowa caucuses. Surely that on its own should be sufficient to disqualify her from consideration? Indifferent to truth, willing to use police-state tactics and vulgar libels against inconvenient witnesses, hopeless on health care, and flippant and fast and loose with national security: The case against Hillary Clinton for president is open-and-shut. Of course, against all these considerations you might prefer the newly fashionable and more media-weighty notion that if you don't show her enough appreciation, and after all she's done for us, she may cry.
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Posted by: | May 8, 2008 6:23 PM

From Hillary's argument, we must all be born from white father and white mother and not be educated but supposedly "hard" working by mopping her home floor, gardening her lawn. She would win "all" Americans. When did having good education and doing well in school become a baggage in life? I guess it started since 2000 when GWB got elected. YOu know what? He had Yale/Harvard education for whatever reason. It's just mind boggling that Hillary can somehow relate to high school graduates with her Yale law degree and high school graduates who "think" she shares the same "non"-education.

Posted by: Ryan P. | May 8, 2008 6:19 PM

Is harworking Americans code for poor white thrash? Cause last ZI checked Black people, educated people, young people, people in large cities, all work too. She almost makes it sound like uneducated white people from rural areas have a monopoly on hard work. Sadly this is just more pandering from the pander master. She has nothing in common with these people other than skin color and before and after this election she won't give a damn about them.

Posted by: chris | May 8, 2008 6:13 PM

But I was THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT

Posted by: Bubba | May 8, 2008 5:22 PM


Don't You Dare Follow The Money!
Politics Joan Swirsky, Featured Writer
April 14, 2008
http://www.therant.us/staff/swirsky/2008/04142008.htm

If true, the media, Obama, and everyone else are not covering the real track record. If a quarter of this is true, one ad could end her career - but where's the real negative ad? Won't happen... Two candidates in multiple cities trumps one McCain.

Posted by: ScottyB | May 8, 2008 5:22 PM

GO AWAY HILLARY! YOU ARE LIKE THE HOUSE GUEST WHO CANT TAKE A HINT TO LEAVE...YOU SEEM TO FORGET WHO GAVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE...REAL DEMOCRATS.

ONCE YOU TURNED YOUR BACK ON US AND TREATED US LIKE THE ENEMY WAS THE DAY YOU LOST YOUR BID FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

Posted by: BEKA | May 8, 2008 5:20 PM

Make Hillary the Health Care Czar ... we have had Drug Czars before.

Conspiracy theorists belive that if you DIG DEEP into the JW/Jeremiah Wright affair you will find Clinton reserachers/advisers... Afterall, he prayed with Bill and asked for forgiveness for his feeble definition on sex ... by trying to define the operative word "is". Bill knows Jerry is off center when it comes to his whack ideas.

Posted by: JakeA | May 8, 2008 5:11 PM

Actually, OD loves Hillary because he is the notorious Republican who secretly wants McCain to win.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 5:03 PM


Potentially she can go lower...a clinton

can always sink further in the muck.

But playing the race card today should mean

she never again has any real power. (Her

colleagues in the Senate did NOT BACK her... so she'll have very little extra there...

And no African American who has heard of her performance today will ever vote for her again...or at least shouldn't.

God, she is awful. Pro Hillary. Nothing else.

Posted by: alfie | May 8, 2008 5:00 PM

Not over until the fat lady sings ... Sorry Hillary

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 5:00 PM

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/votes/index.html

The states and margins of vistory in each of the states do not support Hillary's argument about appeal.

The only true poll - unchanged from the beginning of the race is that 52% of Americans don't like her - find her polarizing - and they are tired of the gridlock.

In the states that Clinton won out West (save California) she will have a hard time beating McCain

Posted by: JakeA | May 8, 2008 4:58 PM

Obama DID compete in Florida, he even had TV ads, which Clinton didn't.

How come 90% black vote for Obama is not racist and 60% white vote for Clinton is? Nobody has the guts to say that Obama is the front runner because of the black vote, but they tend to be in Republican states, so in the GE they won't be as important as the white and Hispanic votes in the swing states.

Posted by: rjv | May 8, 2008 4:47 PM

Gosh, you make persuasive arguments Senator Clinton. Too bad you can't catch Senator Obama even if you are able count Michigan and Florida. Obama is preparing to help seat those states and he will still be over 100 delegates ahead. You need to consider your legacy at this point, Senator Clinton. A gracious loser, working hard for the nominee, will be remembered with fondness, regardless of how rough she got during the campaign. A sore loser, pointlessly continuing the fight and dragging down the nominee, will be remembered in a different way.

Posted by: Chuck | May 8, 2008 4:37 PM

Now is not the time to joke about Hillary. She initially ran her campaign on the premise that she was inevitable. However, after Feb. 5, she knew she had to change. She decided to fall into the Rovian-style politics of fear, hate, and division. She and the media have work relentlessly at pinning a label on Obama as a radical black man with ties to terrorists who also is a closet Muslim. And it some aspects, it has worked. The base she is campaigning to now has a large element of people who just plain do not want to vote for a black man as the next president of the United States. She has been magnifying and feeding fire to these unAmerican fears. Now that she has them in tow, she will leverage their vote to force Obama to choose her as his running mate. Hillary will do this without saying it, but most of us can read the writing on the wall. This would be a disaster for Obama if he cedes to this extortion. She will spend the entire four years of his administration trying to demean and marginalize Obama's effectiveness. Let's hope the remaining voters and superdelegates can see through her self centered machinations, and let American get into the mode of healing and uniting, not more fear, hatred,

Posted by: MikeMcNally | May 8, 2008 4:32 PM

I'm white. I'm a honky. I'm a cracker. Soy gringo.

But I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she were the only person named on the ballot. I'd write myself in, knowing that I did not vote for the liar nor the racist.

Posted by: jeffp | May 8, 2008 4:25 PM

JakeD loves Hillary because he is a notorious Republican who wants McCain to win.

Hillary's equation of "hardworking" to "white" is truly repulsive, the lowest yet.

Hillary is not trying to win this race. She's trying to squeeze a final $20 million out of her supporters so that she can pay off $9 million she owes her consultants, plus $11 million she wants to see back in her own personal bank account. That done, she will drop out.

And Hillary has clearly decided that the fastest way to get that money is to play on the fears of white supremacists. Hey, their dollars are as good as anyone else's, right?

Posted by: OD | May 8, 2008 4:21 PM

I think what Hillary actually said was "I have the broader backside." I'm weightier than Obama.

Seriously, is she delusional or what? Is Obama "competing" against two candidates who suffer dementia? How easy is that to do?

Posted by: jeffp | May 8, 2008 4:21 PM

So now Hillary is using the race baiting card, to U.S.A. reporter, "I'm the only one that can win the Middle Class White working American vote". Good grief are the superdelegates so stupid that they are going to let her continue??
How low can she go?

Posted by: Sue F | May 8, 2008 4:15 PM

Okay people is it just me or is the media really trying to help Hillary. I have never in my life seen the media intentionally try to put down a candidate like they are with "Obama."

It seems like every news station is against him. I think were are seening what is called hidden racism. Why is the media so against Obama? Is it because he is black, or a black democrate, or a black unwealthy democrate, or is it because he just out smarted Hillary and he is more truthful then her.

Also this issue about Michigan and Florida. Why is it in the beginning everyone agreed about the rules the two states broke the rules and they got punished. Now all of a sudden Hillary is crying about Michigan and Florida votes should count. I believe they should but they broke the rules.

Now lets play what if? What if these two states were against Hillary and for Obama and placing them puts Obama automatically nominated for the presidency. Now do you think everyone would still be arguing about they need to count their votes. I dont think so! But because Hillary is a woman or the first woman that could become President she should get special treatment. UhMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Now let say what if? Hillary was black! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Will she get the same treatment. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

So why is this up for dicussion!?

You know, I think it is time for the public to start interviewing the media. I'm starting to see what I only have read in books about 1960's.

Posted by: Jorrell | May 8, 2008 4:15 PM

Obama's State Senate Record Will Hurt Him Badly
A review of Barack Obama's State Senate record reveals some "hot button" issues that will cause him grief in a race against John McCain. These issues will hurt Obama against John McCain and strengthen Hillary Clinton's arguments that he is unelectable:

Judicial Watch: by Klaus Marre- Obama 'intended to leave no paper trail' OBAMA REFUSES to cooperate in releasing 8 years of his state senate records. One main reason REZKO!
- Voted against making permanent the repeal of the state's 5 percent sales tax on gasoline. (2000)
- Supported higher taxes, raising more than 300 taxes and fees on businesses in 2004 to help solve a budget deficit.
- He is opposed letting people use a self-defense argument if charged with violating local handgun bans by using weapons in their homes. The bill was a reaction to a Chicago-area man who, after shooting an intruder, was charged with a handgun violation.
- He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive, the fetuses would sometime survive for hours. Abortion opponents see Obama's vote on medical care for aborted fetuses as a refusal to protect the helpless and accuse him of supporting infanticide.
- He sponsored a measure to expunge criminal records and create an employment grant program for ex-criminals. (2002)
- He voted to limit the purchase of handguns to one a month.
- Voted against making gang members eligible for the death penalty if they kill someone to help their gang. (2001)
* THE CHANGE AGENT*
Obama said he goofed on votes angered fellow Democrats in the Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago's West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed!
Politico reports, "During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than he acknowledges in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion- positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he's projected during his presidential campaign. The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group's detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his bid for a state Senate. In response to a Politico story, Obama's answers he never saw questioaire?


Also announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6. The next day, he acknowledged voting "present" on a key telecommunications vote. He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said. Obama was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

But two of Obama's bumbles came on more-sensitive topics, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside.

The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two "yeas" to spare -- including Obama's. Moments after its passage he rose to say, explaining that he had mistakenly voted for it.

Obama would later develop a reputation as a critic of the gambling industry, and he voted against a similar measure two years later. But he was clearly confused about how to handle the issue at the time of his first vote, telling a church group that he was "undecided" about whether he backed an expansion of riverboat gambling. And, months earlier, he had voted in favor of a version of the bill.

Obama's vote sparked a confrontation after he joined Republicans to block Democrats trying to override a veto by GOP Gov. George Ryan of a $2-million allotment for the west Chicago child welfare office. being responsible," said Sen. Rickey Hendon, accusing Obama of voting to close the child welfare office.Obama replied "I understand Sen. Hendon's anger, I was not aware that I had voted no on that piece of legislation.

Striking similarities between Barack Obama's words and those of Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick during his 2006 election campaign have raised eyebrows and attracted traffic on YouTube. The stump speech Barack Obama has been giving aimed at convincing voters that his campaign is not just about lofty rhetoric -- is from Patrick.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 4:09 PM

jencm:

I never said so myself (perhaps you are thinking of the FAKE Jake?). I am registered Independent.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 3:45 PM

And freespritedislandgirl...

JakeD is a republican. In previous blogs - probably about 2 months ago - he said so himself. He's retired, which is why he's around to blog all day, and is here in a Rush Limbaugh fashion just to disturb the Dems.

He's under some foolish notion that because some pause to point out the fool that he is, his efforts are somehow validated.

Posted by: jencm | May 8, 2008 3:44 PM

bikerbulldog:
Carolinagirl was being facetious like some other posters here and making fun of Clinton's random decisions as to who really counts... (basically, her argument is that only those that vote for her are the ones that count).

Posted by: jencm | May 8, 2008 3:37 PM

All nice sound bites but the polls in these categories have all been trending back to Obama after the low-point in the Wright fiasco. Hillary is also very selective in leaving out the many swing states and states with similar demographics that Obama did win. She is only benefiting recently, if you can call it that, because of one of the worst months for a political campaign in history - yet he still made it through. This actually makes Obama look like the better candidate for the GE.

No Hillary - if you are losing in all categories (even with a best case FL/MI scenario) against the guy you call unelectable, what does that make you?

Posted by: thinkresults | May 8, 2008 3:26 PM

This is a new low. Thanks Hillary. Apparently 90% of the 12% of blacks in this country voted for and completely funded Obama's campaign. Who knew so small a minority could push a candidate so far without the help of anyone else in this country? And how many hundreds of years did it take to get a credible black candidate? Now that I understand our collective clout, we could have done this years ago, maybe even during slavery or segration. I bet any black person would certainly think twice about running again after this fiasco because they will be the race card---and people HRC will keep trying to play them.

Everyone wants to act like race is not an issue...prove me wrong KY and WV.

I am now convinced that if she can't win, then dammit, no other DEM can either. Why else would she make these comments and also INSINUATE to the sound bite/headline loving public that Obama is to blame for the FL/MI mess? I can't wait until she is finally out. Geez!!!!

Posted by: So disappointed... | May 8, 2008 3:08 PM

austiny,
Electoral vote had Gore and Kerry in 2004 and 2008 for most of the race. Besides, anyone educated in politics knows you don't trust general election polls until after the conventions.

Posted by: Stiraight Talk | May 8, 2008 2:59 PM

To the person who said Obama is the weaker candidate, another electoral majp analysis done at 538 disagrees:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

also, this blogger nailed the IN and NC primaries.

Posted by: Dark Heart | May 8, 2008 2:49 PM

For the record, I am registered Independent. Not everyone voting against Obama is full of it, you know?

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 2:42 PM

If the type of coalition in swing states is to be the "test" for who should be the Democratic nominee, then why have we spent all this time, money and energy on the primary? Which block is more important to the Democrats in the general; the Reagan democrats supporting Hillary or the new voters, the young voters, the African American voters and the independent voters supporting Obama? Do we really believe white, economically downscale men are going to vote for Hillary in the general election?! If the Democrats take the nomination away from Obama after he has won under all the rules established at the BEGINNING of this primary race, which group is going to be more bitter? Look at what happened to Mondale! Although Gary Hart worked hard to elect Mondale his, mostly young and upscale, supporters didn't show up and we got 4 more years of Reagan. If Hillary wins fairly, that is by the rules they all agreed to before the Iowa caucus, then Obama supporters are far more likely to come around. But if they feel cheated, the betrayal wounds won't heal for another generation and we won't just have 4 more years of Republicans, we'll have another 20!

Posted by: mstroock | May 8, 2008 2:41 PM

Hillary needs to pack it up and go home. Michigan and Florida were unfair to candidates other than herself. Just my the fact that she is pushing for these unfair votes to counted demonstrates the arrogance of the Clintons. It is over be VP or go bake some cookies Hillary.

Posted by: Terry Satterthwaite | May 8, 2008 2:41 PM

I think JakeD is a Republican. Your full of **it.

Posted by: freespritedislandgirl | May 8, 2008 2:40 PM

Hillary is a racist. Any who doubt it need only check the Drudge Report.

Is anyone surprised she would show such ugliness on the eve of West Virginia? You know, the same West Virginia that continues to re-elect the senate's only member of the Ku Klux Klan--Robert Byrd.

Posted by: gmundenat | May 8, 2008 2:37 PM

Obama is the weaker candidate for November. For an educated prediction for the general election, see the website:
http://www.electoral-vote.com

Posted by: austiny | May 8, 2008 2:34 PM

OK, she's A BROAD, so what? ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | May 8, 2008 2:32 PM

Hillary keeps "bragging" that she wins the the working class whites with no college education. Is this really something to be proud of? Every time I hear this it comes across as she's winning over the "stupid" people. Because she can easily fool them? Because they're like sheep and simply follow the "best" bait? How come she can't win the college educated like Obama does? Because they see right through her? Just curious.

Posted by: Valerie | May 8, 2008 2:32 PM

Some may know this but the argument Clinton wants to spin about Florida votes counting because both were on the ballot doesn't hold water. What the fact is is, the ballot had a property tax initiative to change the state constitution one of the most important votes in years. With the hurricanes driving the insurance rates sky high and taxes tripling in just four years people turned out in force to vote. The problem is, they were older people and property owners and they made a primary vote even though it didn't count just because they were already there. In other words, Hillary got votes just by default. Young people who don't own homes or property, didn't bother to even go to the polls. They are a big part of what would have been Obamas voting base. He might as well not even have been on the ballot. The result is a falsehood and an illusion if you know the facts. Of course, Hillary never let a small thing like facts stand in the way.
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...including Michigan and Florida? You mean, the states where Obama was not on the ballot? IT'S PRETTY EASY TO WIN A CONTEST AGAINST YOURSELF, ISN'T IT?

I am so done with her word vomit. Down with Billary.

Posted by: Kate | May 8, 2008 2:28 PM

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 2:31 PM

Kind of like when you duck someone who is always trying to borrow money I bet

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When she attempted to meet with super D's today she was all but ignored.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 2:28 PM

...including Michigan and Florida? You mean, the states where Obama was not on the ballot? IT'S PRETTY EASY TO WIN A CONTEST AGAINST YOURSELF, ISN'T IT?

I am so done with her word vomit. Down with Billary.

Posted by: Kate | May 8, 2008 2:28 PM

First it was the voters that mattered. Then it was the superdelegates that really mattered. Now what REALLY REALLY matters is the electoral votes.

Give me a *** break.


Obama '08

Posted by: jencm | May 8, 2008 2:28 PM

How dare Hillary discount any group of voters. Where are the superdelegates? They should get off the fence now, to stop her divisive tactics. I'm ashamed to admit I started as a Clinton supporter. Over time I listened to each candidate and became more impressed with Obama. He was the first one I heard talk about the effect NAFTA had on destroying our middle class jobs. He offered new ideas for education and public service. He had the courage to address the gas tax holiday as not solving our problems. He sensed the despair in America - I think that is why people are attracted to him. I can't speak for any one else - but I am convinced Hillary is not good for the Democratic party.

Posted by: Dorothy | May 8, 2008 2:24 PM

When she attempted to meet with super D's today she was all but ignored.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 2:24 PM

Yep. If it weren't for those pesky blacks, those lazy union workers and those meddling kids...

Posted by: Patrick | May 8, 2008 2:15 PM

Carolinagirl
It's a shame how times haven't changed.
For the fact Clinton carries the latino vote. Maybe if you wasn't a dumb hard-working uneducated white person like the media keeps slying saying that you are and that Clinton keeps winning you would understand what you said and your way of thinking is really ignorant. Why couldn't it had been you in Chapel Hill who took the bullet.

Posted by: bikerbulldog | May 8, 2008 2:14 PM

Hillary really showed her ass today with her comments

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 2:13 PM

"She did not repeat the term "white voters," after citing a poll showing her appeal with whites in an interview with USA Today."

... so Mr Bacon does it for her, in case you missed his heavy handed hints about how racist you're supposed to think her campaign is.

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 2:13 PM

Clinton Argues She Has the Broader Coalition

I AM SCREAMING: THEN WHY DID SHE LOSE?
THEN WHY IS HER CAMPAIGN IN DEBT?

Posted by: Ade, Memphis TN | May 8, 2008 2:13 PM

Code for "He is black and can't win"
Today she is all race card nothing else

Posted by: | May 8, 2008 2:12 PM

By my estimate, 16,639,064 people voted FOR Hillary -- I am sure that McCain would be glad to have them vote for him in November -- or, at least stay home and not vote for Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 2:10 PM

But they only "Crossed Over" for the Primaries! ;~)

Truth, at this point, I believe I think many of us are getting VERY dissatisfied with the Pathetic Choices we are Stuck with.

BUT, that is the beauty of it. WE are NOT Stuck!

SCREAM People! LOUDLY! Before it is too late!

The Dims need an Executive Running!(At Least!)

The Conservatives need a CONSERVATIVE!

I, for one, DEMAND a Candidate who will SWEAR, and MEAN IT, to ENFORCE OUR FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT LAWS! FIRST! Not AFTER, rewriting the Laws or arranging Loop-Holes!

To run for the Job of the Enforcer of the Country's Laws, on a Platform of Capitulation to Law breakers on both sides of a destructive broken set of Laws-Does not FLY!

Legalize the Illegals, and the same Employers who WANT to hire Illegals, will just need more!

This REALITY was demonstrated BIG TIME, the Last Time! Only, we created MANY TIMES more, Criminal Employers of Illegal thereof!

All the newly legalized Spanish Speaking Contractors, called in their Familia y Amigos!

DUH!

No, Juan McAmnesty and No'Bomba, are TURKEYS BOTH!

Keep them in the Senate where they are "Checked" by a Real Executive!

Of the 3, None of the Above!

Posted by: RAT-The | May 8, 2008 2:03 PM

davestickler:

Since there is no official record of how many people voted in four State Caucus, it is a FACT that more people voted for her, as she stated, once you count Florida and Michigan.

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 2:03 PM

If you're measuring the size of your coalition by who's actually voted for you, you'd have to give it to Obama. Unless, of course, you don't count black people as real people, which seems to be an undercurrent.

Posted by: davestickler | May 8, 2008 1:58 PM

How ironic that in arguing that she has the broader coalition, she merely regurgitates the same divisive identity politics.

Posted by: Steve L | May 8, 2008 1:56 PM

Hillary has the "working, hard working white vote." Good luck getting elected without all of those unemployed lazy blacks and latinos.

Posted by: carolinagirl | May 8, 2008 1:51 PM

She's got some good points there ; )

Posted by: JakeD | May 8, 2008 1:51 PM

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