The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

To Tom in California and anyone else attacking Clinton for her RFK remark... even a couple Kennedys have come to her defense since her comment, stating that she meant nothing hurtful or insulting about her comment. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I am Hispanic, so I don't feel any overwhelming sense of guilt for slavery or the Jim Crow Era. It's a part of US history, so I studied it in school; but I never connected my black classmates to slaves or those who grew up with actual discrimination. What I saw was a lot of subtle racism. The kind that stops a teacher from telling a black student to behave appropriately to teachers and peers. The kind of subtle racism that accepts poor academic progress. The type of racism that assumes that blacks cannot behave with dignity because of their culture. Blacks have the same type of low expectations of each other. Destructive hip-hop culture. Downright pitiful academic achievement year after year. Families without fathers and dependent on government aid. Blacks exhibit overt racism towards whites, Hispanics and Asians.

Blacks are just as smart, just as talented, just as strong as other Americans. I refuse to judge them by another standard. Frankly, their culture subverts their progress. If Barack could get this segment of America off its backside and to devote just as much dedication to academics as they place in sports; just honest self-evaluation- the same as they place in judging singing or athletic prowess - I'd vote for him. I am afraid that he will be another Mayor Nagin. Rev Wright or Al Sharpton.

o the frightened children who threaten to vote for McCain if Obama is the candidate, let me point some things out.

Clinton supporters are not united. At this point her "base" of supporters are racists and feminist. Racists tend to vote Republican anyway but the feminists will never vote for McCain and take the chance of having the Supreme Court loaded with conservatives who might overturn Rowe vs Wade.

Here's an idea. Why not go to the U.S. Senate website and see how McCain and Obama have voted on issues the past few years. If you think Obama is "Anti-American" this will change your mind. You'll also see that while McCain was a hero half a century ago, his votes in the Senate have shown over and over again that he is a traitor to America and the American people. He serves the rich corporations who's rule over this country is passed down from father to son rather than by election.

You all are not fooling anyone. You're pitiful excuses for hating Senator Obama are nothing more than a mask to hide your racial hatred. I would suggest the more traditional sheet and hood to hide behind.

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I tried to do this, but Obama appears to mostly vote "present". What a great decision maker. And I don't "hate" Obama. I just think he isn't man enough to do the job yet.

There are so many who are frightened, frightened of trusting in something we do not fully understand. Do the research. Look at the candidates. Read their words, watch their actions. Who among them has true honesty, humility, love for every person? Who seeks to uplift rather than simply "win"? There will come a time when another JFK will walk the earth, and with God's mercy, join those of us seeking something new, and perhaps lead us.

There are so many who are frightened, frightened of trusting in something we do not fully understand. Do the research. Look at the candidates. Read their words, watch their actions. Who among them has true honesty, humility, love for every person? Who seeks to uplift rather than simply "win"? There will come a time when another JFK will walk the earth, and with God's mercy, join those of us seeking something new, and perhaps lead us.

I can understand Hillary supporters taking up for her, but to try and make out Obama's campaign as somehow the villain in at the very best HRC's "poor choice of words" is ridiculous.

Adults claim responsibility for when they are wrong. Kids point fingers at the other person that had nothing to do with them committing the wrong. There were at least a half dozen other examples in our American presidential history that Senator Clinton could have used to make her point about continuing the race. Her selection of the assassination of Robert Kennedy, as mentioned, was at the very least, a poor choice. At the very most, deliberate, provocative, and insinuating that she was hoping for a similar situation to develop in this race for the presidency. And it is why she could never be selected as VP, for if the democrats were to reclaim the Whitehouse, she as a VP would be waiting for someone to take out Barack so she could be the President.

Time to grow up people. If she legitimately made a mistake, claim it and move on. Don't blame Barack for it. If anything, he was the only one on TV trying to help her out and accept it as a mistake. Just about everybody in the media has been crucifying her for it. But Barack's the villain? Interesting.

The Obama campaign's crass political response in this matter is utterly reprehensible. His less obnoxious supporters often appeal to me to ignore the obnoxious ones, "they are not the campaign, the campaign is good and sweet". B***S***.

I hope the Obama campaign
flesh-eating Zombie's media, including MSNBC Oberman and Mathews, will stop Feasting on the flesh of Hillary and Bill and their OWN Democratic party members.
If the cannibalism from the Obama Campaign doesn't stop soon the will be nothing left of the party!

Hillary Clinton: "I have the support of hard working Americans, white Americans." If this isn't racist, what is?

TO KAROL

You would love Puerto Rico! Thank You I was not a bigtime supporter of Clinton but, she supports statehood for my Puerto Rico and I have seen her put the fight she has earned my respect. She has been treated unfairly by the Dem party and Obama supporters as well as African-Americans who used to call them the first black family of USA! Double faced Oh Oh I guess that makes a racist! please... Grow up Obama supporters.

PR51

You would love Puerto Rico! Thank You I was not a bigtime supporter of Clinton but, she supports statehood for my Puerto Rico and I have seen her put the fight she has earned my respect. She has been treated unfairly by the Dem party and Obama supporters as well as African-Americans who used to call them the first black family of USA! Double faced Oh Oh I guess that makes a racist! please... Grow up Obama supporters.

PR51

To Rafael PR 51: God bless you; God bless America, God bless Puerto Rico and God bless Hillary Clinton - the next president of the United States INCLUDING Puerto Rico! My next trip will be to Puerto Rico.

You recognize that loyalty is important and that shows your character. I would want you on my team any and every day.

It is amazing how the Obama camp and Obama fans can find something negative in everything Senator Clinton, President Clinton and even Chelsea Clinton say or do. It is almost as if they sit back and devise ways to make any criticism of Senator and Mrs. Obama as racist, negative or unacceptable. Senator Obama tells people (Republicans) that talking about his wife, questioning things she says or scrutinizing her the same way any other candidates' spouse is done is off limits. WOW !! imagine what it will be like if he becomes president. Obama is letting everyone know now what will be acceptable and what won't. No one will be allowed to criticize him, question him or his decisions or anything he does. Hmm, sounds a lot like George Bush to me. I wonder how long the media will put up with this?

"You all are not fooling anyone. You're pitiful excuses for hating Senator Obama are nothing more than a mask to hide your racial hatred. I would suggest the more traditional sheet and hood to hide behind."
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Not much to add, but great job mug. Hopefully there will be a return to sanity among democrats after june 3.

Posted by: Hold_That_Tiger | May 25, 2008 4:16 PM

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There you go America my point exactly if you say anything about Obama that is negative you are a racist!!! WoW!!! Obama supporters the racist issue is old, stupid and boring grow up and stop being childish I think Obama is an Idiot elite and that those not makes me a racist!

I've never ever heard the Clintons apologize for anything. With them it's always somebody else's fault. Very immature. Just what we don't need any more of in the White House.

Senator Clinton's "apology" is no apology at all. It's just another exercise in blame-shifting. She would have us believe it's OUR fault for being shocked and upset by what she said. The fact is, this remark resonates because it really gives us insight into how Clinton's mind works. She cannot defeat Senator Obama by either fair means or foul. So there's a dark part of her mind that thinks about what it would be like if something removed her adversary from the stage.

Memo to Senator Obama: Do NOT select Hillary Clinton as a vice presidential candidate. If you do, you will have to spend the next four years watching your back every second!

I think the tone on this blog is a little scary. Hillary Clinton is probably not a racist, Barack Obama probably does not share the radical views of his pastor, and John McCain is certainly not against veterans. We need to get away from these ridiculous news stories and focus on the real, very serious issues facing the US. The media continues to pursue these sideshows because we continue to watch, listen, and read about them.

"You all are not fooling anyone. You're pitiful excuses for hating Senator Obama are nothing more than a mask to hide your racial hatred. I would suggest the more traditional sheet and hood to hide behind."
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Not much to add, but great job mug. Hopefully there will be a return to sanity among democrats after june 3.

Acropolis Review has a summary of some good reasons to consider supporting Obama. Share with undecided friends, especially in South Dakota, Montana and Puerto Rico: http://acropolisreview.com/2008/04/top-reasons-to-give-barack-obama-your.html

Katherine says" Iwould never vote for him if he makes it to general election--and I've been a democrat my whole life."

Hope you will happy with repulican right. No abortion etc

To the frightened children who threaten to vote for McCain if Obama is the candidate, let me point some things out.

Clinton supporters are not united. At this point her "base" of supporters are racists and feminist. Racists tend to vote Republican anyway but the feminists will never vote for McCain and take the chance of having the Supreme Court loaded with conservatives who might overturn Rowe vs Wade.

Here's an idea. Why not go to the U.S. Senate website and see how McCain and Obama have voted on issues the past few years. If you think Obama is "Anti-American" this will change your mind. You'll also see that while McCain was a hero half a century ago, his votes in the Senate have shown over and over again that he is a traitor to America and the American people. He serves the rich corporations who's rule over this country is passed down from father to son rather than by election.

You all are not fooling anyone. You're pitiful excuses for hating Senator Obama are nothing more than a mask to hide your racial hatred. I would suggest the more traditional sheet and hood to hide behind.

How nice of Obama! YEAHHHHHHHH RIIIIIIGHT.

Obama is the one who released the statement calling Hillary out on her June comment, and NO ONE else batted an eye before he did that.

Axelrod and Obama have slimed this whole thing up.

I would never vote for him if he makes it to general election--and I've been a democrat my whole life.

Hillary: Why I Continue To Run

This past Friday, during a meeting with a newspaper editorial board, I was asked about whether I was going to continue in the presidential race.

I made clear that I was - and that I thought the urgency to end the 2008 primary process was unprecedented. I pointed out, as I have before, that both my husband's primary campaign, and Sen. Robert Kennedy's, had continued into June.

Almost immediately, some took my comments entirely out of context and interpreted them to mean something completely different - and completely unthinkable.

I want to set the record straight: I was making the simple point that given our history, the length of this year's primary contest is nothing unusual. Both the executive editor of the newspaper where I made the remarks, and Sen. Kennedy's son, Bobby Kennedy Jr., put out statements confirming that this was the clear meaning of my remarks. Bobby stated, "I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

I realize that any reference to that traumatic moment for our nation can be deeply painful - particularly for members of the Kennedy family, who have been in my heart and prayers over this past week. And I expressed regret right away for any pain I caused.

But I was deeply dismayed and disturbed that my comment would be construed in a way that flies in the face of everything I stand for - and everything I am fighting for in this election.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/25/why-we-continue-hillary-and-me/#more-2698

Well yes and Eugene McCarthy would have won in Chicago had RFK not gotten into the race.

The split left Humphrey the winner and McCarthy kids bloodied in the streets.

Meanwhile, I still have lots of McCarthy bumper stickers and campaign pins from my effort. It was suburban Boston, so everyone ignored me after Bobby jumped in front of Eugene's movement. I'm not still mad about it, not much anyway.

Shame on you aspergirl...
Here it is Memorial Day and you're pledging to vote for John McCain who votes against our veterans.

"Can any Hillary supporters write clearly in English??"

Posted by: Mensa Man | May 25, 2008 12:29 PM

Check you Strunk and White: Adverbs before the verb that you wish to modify.

This issue is a total non-controversy. I don't like either of the Clintons, and Hillary's shrill voice sounds like screeching chalk on a chalkboard. However, anybody with any comprehension knows that Hillary was talking about the history of the Democratic Primary, and that it is not unusual for a Democratic Nominee not being decided until after June. In fact, the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee. RFK did not even get into the primary race until it looked like a dope like Eugene McCarthy could win the nomination. Reading the newspaper articles about this topic makes me wonder if the writers are all dolts or do they just think their readers are dolts.

Someone has released a copy of Hillary Clinton's bedtime prayer. Here it is:

"Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
Keep me safe through all the drama -
Just let someone shoot Obama!"

Posted by: ILoveAmerica | May 25, 2008 12:25 PM

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AMEN!!!!!

aspergirl..
I've seen you trashing Obama's mother before. What's your point? So, Ann Dunham was rather a free spirit when she was 18 - quite courageous I'd say, especially in the early sixties. I also admire the fact that, after two failed marriages, she made a good life for herself as a single career woman. And, she must have done something right - her two children turned out to be quite remarkable. I wish Ms. Dunham could have lived to see her son take the oath of office as President of the United States. I'm sure she's with him in spirit everyday.

Can any Hillary supporters write clearly in English??

Posted by: Mensa Man | May 25, 2008 12:29 PM

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Can any Obama supporter stop injecting hate?

Can any Hillary supporters write clearly in English??

Someone has released a copy of Hillary Clinton's bedtime prayer. Here it is:

"Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
Keep me safe through all the drama -
Just let someone shoot Obama!"

This is how it will be resolved in the convention! Hillary gets treated unfairly and she tells the delegates ok well this is the deal either I get the nomination because it is clear I can win in November or I run as an Idependent and she can win. I am telling you guys do not count Hillary out just yet! Remember the press is for Obama but, the reality is Obama can't win in November but, Hillary can.

PR51

The only reason Clinton was elected to the Senate from NY, is the same reason she was funded and backed to win the nomination for President: Israel and their lobbies!

They knew she would do anything to carry their water, and she has proved that. Israel also knows that they don't have Obama, or anyone else as deep in their pocket and that means their vulnerability and risk increases one thousand fold. The Israeli machine must have Clinton to assure they continue the billions in aid and defense from the U.S. thus they will do anything to insure her victory, including assassinate Obama. Perhaps, Hillary is simply warning everyone of what she knows is absolutely what will happen.

Fact All of Obamas supporters believe with no doubt in your mind that Hillary Clinton would kill or want Obama Assassinated Obama if he would pick her for VP. That what you all Know and that why supper Delegates must end the election. So when Hillary wins Port Rico and has the popular vote She will be the rightful Nominee for President. And Obama will be the VP. Then all of the spreading of the twisted lies by the Obama campaing of Assassinations will be over and moot.

People like aspergirl get to lose twice in one election cycle.

Go ahead, vote for McCain you loser, you love this country so much you'll vote to keep it on the path to destruction. You like the course we are on? McCain and his RNC Bush friends do to.

"All is jaundiced to the jaundiced eye."

The willful distortion of Hillary Clinton's comments regarding long primaries - a comment she had made before with no resulting firestorm - is simply another wedge between the Obamanistas and Hillary's supporters. And I am feeling very strongly that with this latest lunacy, the chasm is unbreachable. Just as Barry accused Hillary of painting his followers as delusional, Obamanistas who accuse Hillary Clinton of "evoking" his assassination are accusing her supporters of affirming a view like that. I just don't see how we come together after this kind of malicious willingness to see our candidate as the epitome of evil.

If Barry had any character, he would not be calling Hillary Clinton's comments "careless". He would be challenging the madness among his supporters and the media that has led to taking an innocuous statement of historical context and turning it into a veiled reference to the possibility of her opponent's assassination. He would clearly state that no apology to him and his family is even within the realm of necessity by a long stretch. He would point out that Hillary has Secret Service protection as well, and tho she is entitled to that as former First Lady, Barry has to know that Hillary has received as many death threats as he has. Hillary certainly knows that, but it would require rationality and character for anyone in the Obama camp and the pack mentality "slow-news-weekend" media to acknowledge this.
I don't think The Movement quite understands the damage that has been done by their vitriol and by their minions in the MSM. I believe it is irreparable; there will be no Democratic president sworn in on January 20, 2009.

People like aspergirl get to lose twice in one election cycle.

Go ahead, vote for McCain you loser, you love this country so much you'll vote to keep it on the path to destruction. You like the course we are on? McCain and his RNC Bush friends do to.

From the Wall Street Journal blog:

Any of you Obama supporters who plan to continue tearing Hillary to pieces need to know that virtually all of her supporters, including me, plan to vote Republican for the first time in November if Obama is the candidate. We are universally frightened by his anti-American racism, duplicity, shady connections, and history of drug and alcohol abuse. Voting Republican will be odious for lifelong Democrats like me, but McCain's unquestionable loyalty to America is preferable to the anti-Americanism of Obama who for 22 years supported a church with a "non-negotiable commitment to Africa and the anti-American preacher whose prayers ask God to "damn America." Clinton supporters place country ahead of party, and right now there is no choice but to vote for Hillary Clinton or McCain, the only other candidate who has shown true commitment to America.
Comment by Mary - May 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm

The Washington Post barely mentioned Clinton's WV victory and ignored her KY victory. But it's been covering this RFK remarks negative flap for days now.

Clinton voters who don't appreciate the biased, sexist and unduly pro-Obama Washington Post coverage of the Democratic primaries should cancel Washington Post subscriptions, stop buying print copies and avoid clicking on ads on its web pages. The Washington Post's newspaper business has been suffering since the primaries started and its campaign of Clinton-bashing and Obama-enabling started.

Washington Post stock value has been plummeting relative to other national newspapers, like the NY Times & USA Today (Gannett) since the start of the Democratic primaries. The Washington Post Company, by the way, also includes Newsweek, which is another luridly anti-Clinton media outlet, churning out race-baiting accusations against Clinton and sexist, Clinton-bashing articles.

Gannett stock (USA Today) has gained 12 percent in the last month whereas Washington Post stock has lost 8 percent. In the past 6 months, the Post has outstripped its competitors in a dive into negative territory, losing 22 percent of its value. The Post's profitability in the last quarter dropped 39 percent. Washington Post stock has underperformed NY Times stock by about 25 percent over the past 6 months.

WPO's Annual Report shows that the Washington Post's circulation of 749,000 in 2003 has dropped to 658,000 last year for a loss of 91,000 - while the advertising revenue also plummeted - from 573 million in 2006 to 496 million last year - a loss of 13 percent, or 77 million dollars. All of this while other media has gained in earnings and marketshare while not having the readership penetration of the Post.

The CEO is still selling off his shares of his own company, while its stock drops. He doesn't even want to invest in his own paper. (http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=AP&date=20080520&id=8671062) Last month, it was the CEO's wife who sold her shares.

Here's the chart of WPO vs. GCI. GCI stock (and hence its market capitalization) gained 12 percent over the past month. WPO stock (and its market capitalization) dropped 8 percent:

http://finance.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=1211648788618&chddm=8602&cmpto=NYSE:GCI&q=NYSE:WPO&

Stock chart of WPO and NYT plotted against each other for the past 6 months.

http://finance.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=1211643038128&chddm=48875&cmpto=NYSE:NYT&q=NYSE:WPO&

Clinton voters who don't appreciate how the Post ignores Clinton plusses and features Clinton negative for days at a time, please cancel your subscriptions, sell your stock (if you haven't already) and don't buy print copies.

>>bill wrote: "Anyone who would stay with a man who cheats over and over is not worth my vote."

I'm sorry, were you talking about Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, who was married to Obama's Muslim polygamist father while he still had a wife at home in Kenya, to whom he returned after he dumped Anne without any support or settlement for her and their kid? (That was the first of her two temporary marriages to polygamist Third World Muslim men).

Or were you talking about Obama, who has written intensely about his father, whose identity he embraces as described in long passages in his two self-involved, hyperbolic autobiographies that are actually historical fiction? When in reality, contrary to the historical fiction he wrote, Obama's African father was a failure, womanizer and drunk who died in a drunk driving car crash as a no-legged man with prosthetics, having lost his legs in a previous drunk driving crash? Are you talking about how Obama has embraced and identified with the Kenyan father he has apparently misrepresented and fictionalized in his books?

Or was it some other political candidate you are condemning for not passing judgment on and cutting off a man on account of his sexual behavior? Was it some other candidate whose family you are smearing and looking down on?

It is amazing how Obama is conducting himself.

In the face of a constant, inaccurate, dishonest and virulent stream of filth and chicanery from Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama maintains a gentlemanly posture that will long survive and greatly contribute to burying the name Clinton in some obscure corner of history.

Obama shows so much grace and dignity in the face of the skewering he got for his "bitter" comment from Hillary.

I used to empathize with Hillary Clinton. I first supported her as president of United States. Unfortunately, she has become a bitter loser and evil politician. Her comment on RFK's assassination is calculated, diabolical, deplorable, and insensitive to the Kennedy family when they are facing another death, and to the Obama family for inciting another murder. It is so sad to watch Hillary and Bill Clinton lose their humanity, dignity, and legacy for their blind ambition.

What I would like to know is, When did Democratic Party politics reduce to the requirement that one cannot oppose a black candidate for Office? When did it become off-limits to be in an election just because a black Democrat is up for the job? It has become increasingly clear Clinton is the enemy to some, for no reason other than the idea of her opposing a black candidate in any contest anywhere. Is unopposed access to nominations the new black prerogative in the Democratic Party?

L.A Times 5-25-08

"Some Democrats have mentioned that she could run for governor of New York if she isn't nominated for president."

"That prospect unnerves some black leaders. They said they didn't want to see her challenge Paterson, who plans to run in 2010. With Paterson in the job, some black leaders want a definitive statement from Clinton that she would not subject him to a primary challenge -- and say they haven't gotten it yet."

"Benjamin said: "I was pretty much appalled when supporters said one of her options was to run for governor. We have a governor. He's a black Democrat. It's not wise for them to challenge a black Democrat for governor...."

peter.nicholas@latimes.com

Posted by: Annette Keller | May 25, 2008 10:00 AM

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The Obamas have to destroy the Clintons for ever in ever way or Obama can never win!
By using Nuclear P.R Media tactics for their power-grab on Hillary and Bill. The Obamas and the black community RECKLESS act of poising their OWN stream has left all Democrats with nothing to drink.- R.J

Talk about a non-controversy! I do not like either of the Clintons and listening to Hillary is like listening to chalk screech on a blackboard; however, only a complete idiot could not figure out from her discussion that the point of her talk is that Democratic Primaries can remain undecided through the month of June. This nonsense is the reason that I generally don't vote for Democrats. Facts and honest discussion of the issues are always left out of any debate. When a made-up controversy gets this level of press attention, I wonder whether newspapers are written by total dolts or if newspapers just think their readers are total dolts.

Hillary Clinton was not careless: She is ultra-smart.

The important issue here is that such comment was not the first time. Since her 11 straight losses in February, she has made herself clear that she would stay in the race just in case something horrible--like RFK's assassination---might happen to her opponent (She indeed mentioned such comment in her interview with Time Magazine in March).

Although such gruesome hope was the real subtext, she has presented various kinds of pseudo-rationale, including complaints about sexism and media bias, as well as excuses such as the necessity of changing the DNC rules or even its nomination process, although she had agreed not to count Florida and Michigan.

Yes, Hillary was unfairly treated because she is a woman: American voters and the media have been too generous to her despite her irrational argument and low politics. Now it is time to treat her fairly--based on her own words and deeds.

America really needs a leader who can lead this great country and the world, the one who has a sound judgment and genuine integrity to abide by rules agreed--instead of exploiting gender, race, and public trauma of the RFK assassination.

NARCISSTS use EVERY opportunity to draw gainful attention to themselves....OBAMA, SHUT THE HE*L UP!

You are SO inappropriate. You believe you are a divine gift to America, reinforced by $$$$ you have coerced out of Lobbyists' companinies employees and the American Idol generation!

Hillary Clinton did NOT use your name during the South Dakota interview !

George Bush did NOT use your name in his comments in Israael.

IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU OBAMA, NOT THE BETTERMENT of America at home and abroad!

Posted by: Steve | May 25, 2008 8:33 AM

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COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH THIS OBAMA IS A CRY BABY WHO IS GOING TO BE DEFEATED BY GRANPA IN NOVEMBER CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEECH AND HOWARD DEAN BE FIERD! I BET YOU THAT ALL DEMOCRATS REGRET OUNISHING THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN INSTEAD OF THE POLITICIANS! AND OBAMA AND HILLARY BOTH AGREED! PEOPLE THAT THERE IN IT SELVE SHOWS DEMOCRATS ARE NOT READY TO HANDLE THE WHITE HOUSE! WISE UP

What I would like to know is, When did Democratic Party politics reduce to the requirement that one cannot oppose a black candidate for Office? When did it become off-limits to be in an election just because a black Democrat is up for the job? It has become increasingly clear Clinton is the enemy to some, for no reason other than the idea of her opposing a black candidate in any contest anywhere. Is unopposed access to nominations the new black prerogative in the Democratic Party?

L.A Times 5-25-08

"Some Democrats have mentioned that she could run for governor of New York if she isn't nominated for president."

"That prospect unnerves some black leaders. They said they didn't want to see her challenge Paterson, who plans to run in 2010. With Paterson in the job, some black leaders want a definitive statement from Clinton that she would not subject him to a primary challenge -- and say they haven't gotten it yet."

"Benjamin said: "I was pretty much appalled when supporters said one of her options was to run for governor. We have a governor. He's a black Democrat. It's not wise for them to challenge a black Democrat for governor...."

peter.nicholas@latimes.com

L.A Times 5-25-08
Some Democrats have mentioned that she could run for governor of New York if she isn't nominated for president.

That prospect unnerves some black leaders. They said they didn't want to see her challenge Paterson, who plans to run in 2010. With Paterson in the job, some black leaders want a definitive statement from Clinton that she would not subject him to a primary challenge -- and say they haven't gotten it yet.

Benjamin said: "I was pretty much appalled when supporters said one of her options was to run for governor. We have a governor. He's a black Democrat. It's not wise for them to challenge a black Democrat for governor.

"She should have come out and said a flat no, that folks were wrong, but I did not see that or hear that coming from her."

peter.nicholas@latimes.com

Posted by: NEVER GIVE UP HILLARY | May 25, 2008 9:44 AM

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I mean if the governor was white would it be ok to challenge him? Seriously man I wish I was black no one could touch me talk about me or dare me! Are you kidding me since when do politics have been fair? I am appalled by the way blacks make it a racist issue if you challenge them or attack them in politics and the sad part about it is that everyone seems to be ok with this behavior! un real!

Sen. Dick Durbin also weighed in, telling the Associated Press: "I know Hillary Clinton, and the last thing in the world she'd ever want is to wish misfortune on anybody. She and Barack are friends." He added: "It was ... a careless remark, and we'll leave it at that.

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ABC News, it's Senator Obama's campaign that has pushed and framed this story.

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May 24, 2008,
How Clinton's Comments Didn't -- Then Did -- Catch Fire
Matt Phillips reports on the presidential race from Brandon, S.D THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Unfortunately, as sometimes happens out on the trail, the local technology infrastructure didn't seem quite ready for an influx of heavily wired journalists. Some reporters found the streamed broadcast of the editorial meeting excruciatingly slow, rendering it unwatchable. It didn't seem that there would be any huge news out of a routine sitdown with the editors of a small-town daily, besides her batting away earlier reports that day that she was seeking to reach a deal with Obama's campaign as way to exit the nomination race. She did, in fact, tell the editorial board that those reports were "flatly untrue... flatly, completely untrue."

Clinton concluded her meeting at the Argus Leader and arrived at the supermarket, where a few hundred onlookers assembled in the produce section, when the RFK comments began to reverberate around the Internet.

As the New York senator was delivering her stump speech in the grocery store, reporters began receiving messages on their BlackBerrys from editors wondering about a New York Post story posted prominently on the Drudge Report that referenced the senator's mention of the assassination.

The bulk of the press corps soon gathered around a Clinton spokesman asking for comments and clarification on the Kennedy quotes. Seemingly taken aback by the direction the questions were going, the spokesman explained that Clinton had merely been trying to emphasize the point that Democratic primary fights had stretched into June in the past.

Later Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee offered an official statement, saying "any reading into it beyond that is inaccurate." After a few more minutes he came back, suggesting that his quote should be amended to add "and outrageous."

After finishing her appearance, Clinton herself returned to offer her own brief apology for the remarks.

Clinton aides pointed to the fact that she had made previous references to both her husband's 1992 campaign and Kennedy's 1968 campaign before to stress that these primary fights have pushed into June in the past. The Associated Press cited a March interview with Time magazine, in which she said, "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June, also in California. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual."

And while a couple reporters -- who had managed to stick with the streaming press conference -- mentioned that they found her assassination reference slightly strange, few on the trail thought it would be the lead on any of their stories that day.

The fact that it did become big news is illustrative of journalistic competition in the Internet age. The entire pack of reporters sent to watch Clinton's every move had somehow gotten beat, and forced into following a New York Post reporter who was nowhere near the campaign, but who, apparently, had a much-better Internet connection.

Obama is a class act, but we who comment here can be freer to speak the truth. Hillary's use of the word "assassination" was no accident. The fact that she is being called on it, after all the twisting of the facts and unjustified attacks she has made, is just her karma coming back. If she can't stand the heat, she could always just get out of the kitchen.

L.A Times 5-25-08
Some Democrats have mentioned that she could run for governor of New York if she isn't nominated for president.

That prospect unnerves some black leaders. They said they didn't want to see her challenge Paterson, who plans to run in 2010. With Paterson in the job, some black leaders want a definitive statement from Clinton that she would not subject him to a primary challenge -- and say they haven't gotten it yet.

Benjamin said: "I was pretty much appalled when supporters said one of her options was to run for governor. We have a governor. He's a black Democrat. It's not wise for them to challenge a black Democrat for governor.

"She should have come out and said a flat no, that folks were wrong, but I did not see that or hear that coming from her."

peter.nicholas@latimes.com

Dear no-name poster who stated "My God, Obama and his supporters are a bunch of crybabies."
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Why don't you try actually READING the article before you post.

Once again, Barack Obama takes the high road and demonstrates his presidential qualities.

"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi

All this, not to see a Black man take office. This whole process has opened my eyes to the mental conditioning of so-called whites and their disregard for anything or anyone outside of themselves.What Hillary said was a threat on this mans life, all she did was put the suggestion in the head of one of her many low educated "white" supporters that this is a way we can win, kill him and she would be the candidate. How her comments can be seen in any other light shows this young African in America the truth. Had anyone from Obama's side of the fence made such remarks toward Hillary god Forbid. I know now what the truth is about my status here in the good ole USA, a devalued life to be brushed aside. All folks of right mind please wake up look at this for what it is an attempt on a good mans life.My prayers go to the Obama family for their safe keep threw this entire ordeal.

Hey Jacksmith,
If you punctuate every one of your inane comments with an emoticon, you are an idiot.

My God, Obama and his supporters are a bunch of crybabies. Clinton was stating a historical fact. I'm sorry that Obama supporters have decided to take the neo-con route --- feigned outrage over harmless comments -- no sense of context -- no sense of history.

Most Obama supporters are no better than Bush supporters, and all that Obama is is a left wing version of George Bush.

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I can't believe I am writing this, because I used to be a staunch supporter of the Clintons. But Hillary's behaviors since this primary season began have been less than desirable at best.
Now, using coded words to incite some dumb racist to get rid of Obama is beyond carelessness. It is evil. She is utterly despicable. And she won't succeed.

It's Memorial Day weekend.
Let's give it a rest on the bickering of the Clintons's campaign problems.

Let's remember our veterans and the fallen heroes.

Thank you!

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I can't believe I am writing this, because I used to be a staunch supporter of the Clintons. But Hillary's behaviors since this primary season began have been less than desirable at best.
Now, using coded words to incite some dumb racist to get rid of Obama is beyond carelessness. It is evil. She is utterly despicable. And she won't succeed.

Regardless of whether HRC used the plight of Kennedy intentionally or not, she does not seem to weigh her words before letting them slip out of her mouth. A president does not have the luxury of claiming "misstatements" or sexist misinterpretations, but must carefully weigh their words in the international community. We certainly don't need another war.

1st Sgt Prentice
Steve is correct and you are mistaken. Read the transcript or listen to the entire video--Obama's name is NOT mentioned.

Steve said, "Hillary Clinton did NOT use your name during the South Dakota interview!"

Steve, you bigoted moron, Hillary DID use Obama's name in the SD interview!

From tenacious, to delusional to falling into the abyss of utter insanity. Was her "wishful thinking" musing an attempt to expand her base of white trash bigots to now include potential assassins?

What more will it take for the remaining "undecided" Super Delegates to rid our nation from this mendacious, despicable, craven monster? She and the Big Dog have reduced the Clinton legacy to nothing more than race baiting and a stained blue dress.

Clinton could learn something from Obama's grace. She should have had the same response about his bitter remark. She's definitely not ready on day one, even with all of her self appointed experience.

I don't want to weigh in on if Hill should exit the race. But would like to comment on the abuse that has been piled on to Hillary throughout the campaign, and the fact that most of those characterizing her as today's edition of Josef Stalin or Bloody Mary have actually never even met her. So what basis do you all have for these accusations? Does she remind you of someone in your life- an ex wife who won a decent divorce settlement, the boss you hate, the mother you know to be a deluded idiot while you, at 19 or 20, have all the answers to life's problems, someone who dated your boyfriend 20 years ago? Is this what is going on here, or is it just the human instinct to find a vulnerable being, join with other humans and beat it to death just for fun?

NARCISSTS use EVERY opportunity to draw gainful attention to themselves....OBAMA, SHUT THE HE*L UP!

You are SO inappropriate. You believe you are a divine gift to America, reinforced by $$$$ you have coerced out of Lobbyists' companinies employees and the American Idol generation!

Hillary Clinton did NOT use your name during the South Dakota interview !

George Bush did NOT use your name in his comments in Israael.

IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU OBAMA, NOT THE BETTERMENT of America at home and abroad!

Words are politician's tools and (tired or not) a good politician in a leadership role should use them wisely. This was one of much too many unwise uses of words by Senator Clinton and reflects poorly on her fitness to lead the country. She may be a good senator but we should expect and demand more of someone wishing to be president.

Quite telling that Clinton never apologized to Barack Obama, and especially his family. How does he or Michelle respond if their children hear that Senator Clinton, who no doubt they'll been told is a good person, said she's still running for president because Daddy might get killed?

Also note that in saying that Clinton's comments were careless, there are several definitions of the word, a common one being "disregarding or showing no concern about something".

More in my column on http://capitolhillblue.com
"Assassination comment turns Obama - Clinton dream ticket into a nightmare"

I agree with the first comment I saw this morning: thesuperclasssux | May 25, 2008 7:46 AM

Hillary Clinton toys with the race card once again when she presents "regrets" for having potentially offended the Kennedy family but offers not even a sub-apology to the Obama family.

Barack's being gentlemanly when he characterizes her comments as being "careless." There was nothing careless about them -- she and Bill have been pushing this idea for months now, hoping that some KKK-lunatic fringe-type will get his gun and do the deed.

How sick can you get? And yet, there are those in the MSM who try to quantify this as the Clinton version of "justification" for staying in the race???!!!!

Really? It's OK to feed the racist appetites out there? It's all right to indulge in psycho delusions -- and articulate them -- to the press????!!!!! And then get a pass??!!

Wow. The world has really turned upside-down this campaign cycle.

What happened to reason and logic? What happened to morality and decency? Where is the discussion of that? Why are the Clintons' motives not receiving more scrutiny -- their REAL motives -- their unceasing grab for power and attention and adulation?

Why aren't they being held accountable for their mental instabilty? Why is this not a suitable subject for further analysis by the MSM?

I think it is the crux of the whole campaign -- who is more mentally stable -- Hillary or Barack?

The answer seems pretty clear to anyone, even if they don't have a degree in psych.

Clinton's primary analogies are pathetically analogous to Bush's comparing Iraq to every war except Vietnam. She seems to have lost not only the nomination, but her rational mind. Poor Hill's supporters might consider her mental health is suffering now for no purpose.

not 'just careless,' at least the kennedy family does not think so:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm

Even if we interpret Hillary's ghoulish "mis-speaking" charitably as carelessness, it clearly demonstrates her total unsuitability for the job of President. The poor woman lacks tact, social graces, and diplomatic sensitivity. Her messy campaign proved that she is not an efficient organizer, she cannot delegate, and she is unable to pick the right people. But those are the basic talents that a President must have.

Her senatorial career proved her instead to be a diligent, hard-working micromanager who pays attention to every detail. Those are quite laudable qualities for a senator, but entirely wrong for a President.

Blind ambition is a terrible trait for Presidential Candidate and I feel the Clinton's have fallen in to this. which makes me question their judgement. This leads to the kind of statements made. The thing that really makes me wonder about there judgement is the apology made was poor and sounded shallow. I would hope this thing ends before real damage is done.

Clinton's statement is revealing. And so is Obama's. Clearly, we are witness to the 15 month prelude of the substandard team that will unfortunately stand shoulder to shoulder against the third Bush term. So pitiful.

The media has demonstrated in the past two or three days that it has lost its collective mind in its frenzied efforts to force Hillary Clinton out of the race. The good old boys network in the media and their codependent girlfriends (Ruth Marcus, Arianna Huffington, Maureen Dowd, etc.) must be terrified that Hillary can pull off a last minute win; otherwise, why would they be trying so desperately to take her down?

This is ridiculous. Clinton was merely trying to point out that primaries run through June and always have. If RJK Jr. a staunch supporter of Clinton, is ok with this then you all really need to drop it !!!

it doesn't amaze me how white mainstream media can make or allow excuses made by white politicians to sudside after one day of reporting.hillary made her comment about assassination and a week prior huckabee made his comments about senator obama being shot.when senator obama made comments of "bittergate" hillary,mccain and the media gave the coverage weeks which did have an effect on the pennsylvania primaries.if senator obama has a flaw it's that he's too nice to a womam that's unscrupolus,would say anything for a vote and is trying to force herself on a ticket when it's the winners right to chose who he wants for a running mate.hillary clinton has made seeking the presidency a disgusting chore,she has displayed gutter tactics,senator obama for the most part has stayed out of getting in the gutter with her.

Some Democrats have mentioned that she could run for governor of New York if she isn't nominated for president.

That prospect unnerves some black leaders. They said they didn't want to see her challenge Paterson, who plans to run in 2010. With Paterson in the job, some black leaders want a definitive statement from Clinton that she would not subject him to a primary challenge -- and say they haven't gotten it yet.

Benjamin said: "I was pretty much appalled when supporters said one of her options was to run for governor. We have a governor. He's a black Democrat. It's not wise for them to challenge a black Democrat for governor.

"She should have come out and said a flat no, that folks were wrong, but I did not see that or hear that coming from her."

peter.nicholas@latimes.com
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May 24, 2008,
How Clinton's Comments Didn't -- Then Did -- Catch Fire
Matt Phillips reports on the presidential race from Brandon, S.D

Unfortunately, as sometimes happens out on the trail, the local technology infrastructure didn't seem quite ready for an influx of heavily wired journalists. Some reporters found the streamed broadcast of the editorial meeting excruciatingly slow, rendering it unwatchable. It didn't seem that there would be any huge news out of a routine sitdown with the editors of a small-town daily, besides her batting away earlier reports that day that she was seeking to reach a deal with Obama's campaign as way to exit the nomination race. She did, in fact, tell the editorial board that those reports were "flatly untrue... flatly, completely untrue."

Clinton concluded her meeting at the Argus Leader and arrived at the supermarket, where a few hundred onlookers assembled in the produce section, when the RFK comments began to reverberate around the Internet.

As the New York senator was delivering her stump speech in the grocery store, reporters began receiving messages on their BlackBerrys from editors wondering about a New York Post story posted prominently on the Drudge Report that referenced the senator's mention of the assassination.

The bulk of the press corps soon gathered around a Clinton spokesman asking for comments and clarification on the Kennedy quotes. Seemingly taken aback by the direction the questions were going, the spokesman explained that Clinton had merely been trying to emphasize the point that Democratic primary fights had stretched into June in the past.

Later Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee offered an official statement, saying "any reading into it beyond that is inaccurate." After a few more minutes he came back, suggesting that his quote should be amended to add "and outrageous."

After finishing her appearance, Clinton herself returned to offer her own brief apology for the remarks.

Clinton aides pointed to the fact that she had made previous references to both her husband's 1992 campaign and Kennedy's 1968 campaign before to stress that these primary fights have pushed into June in the past. The Associated Press cited a March interview with Time magazine, in which she said, "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June, also in California. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual."

And while a couple reporters -- who had managed to stick with the streaming press conference -- mentioned that they found her assassination reference slightly strange, few on the trail thought it would be the lead on any of their stories that day.

The fact that it did become big news is illustrative of journalistic competition in the Internet age. The entire pack of reporters sent to watch Clinton's every move had somehow gotten beat, and forced into following a New York Post reporter who was nowhere near the campaign, but who, apparently, had a much-better Internet connection.

ABC News, it's Senator Obama's campaign that has pushed and framed this story.

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Sen. Dick Durbin also weighed in, telling the Associated Press: "I know Hillary Clinton, and the last thing in the world she'd ever want is to wish misfortune on anybody. She and Barack are friends." He added: "It was ... a careless remark, and we'll leave it at that.

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If I can Find the truth why can't the MSM

Can't say that I'm surprised by that some of the Hillary supporters in this thread are eager to blame her latest wierdness on Obama. I guess it's easier to blame him than try to understand and/or explain her. Her South Dakota comments were on a video stream...they were noticed and reported by the NY Post and then picked up by the rest of the media. How anyone can blame Obama for this is beyond me. His response has been consistently appropriate and restrained.

Response to Deborah...

The actual comments by Michelle was..."The first time in my ADULT life, I have been proud of my country" She also explained what she meant and many us share that experience with her.

By your comments, it is obvious that you are not married or have kids. Though not acceptable, most of us who are married or have kids, refer to our wives or kids as sweetie, it is not meant to be offensive; though it could be interpreted wrongly when used outside the home especially to someone of the opposite sex that one have no relationship with.

I have heard grown up ladies i.e. friends, sisters call each other sweetie or brothers calling their sisters sweetie.

I agreed that it should only be used within circles when both parties know each other very well....but it is disingenuous to mis-represent it as sometime evil coming Obama.

It is unfutunate that FL&MI ended up this way; but the hard truth is, before this primary season started, Rules were setup and according to those rules, FL&MI votes will not count. All the presidential candidates know these rules and they apend their signatures to these rules. Hillary and her campaign have made many comments about FL&MI not counting. Howard Ickes, Hillary Political Director, the very guy fighting hard to count FL&MI now; VOTED to ban FL&MI; he voted to strip FL&MI off their delegates.

Hhillary & her camp only made a 180 degree turn around because of their own self interest. They discovered later that without FL&MI, they will be out of gas. They are not doing it because they love FL&MI, or because they want every vote to count..(these are the same people that backed a lawsuite in NV to ban certain people from voting because those votes will favor Obama). And the lastest from Hillary camp is that, from MI, the only votes that should count should be the votes for Hillary, they only want the pro-Hillary votes in MI to count but they do not want the anti-Hillary votes in MI count.

On the superdelegate, I will agreed with you, it should be one man one vote; but this is the rules that the democrats have now in the books and this primary should be decided based on the rules; they can later make some changes to their process.

It is not always a good idle to adjust the rules after the facts. Good or bad, the rule should be fair to all...We all know alot of court rulings that we do not like, we can fight to change them so that they can affect events that will take place tomorrow and not events that have already taken place.

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Posted by: Cheryl L | May 25, 2008 2:46 AM

Funny how it was your high road candidate who started this mess in the first place by sending out a statement saying comments like this should not be in the campaign. It was his campaign who threw the first stone and started this, not the editors of the newspaper who conducted the interview. It was your candidate's camapign team who thought they could make political headway over a bogus claim against Hillary once again. It was your high road candidate who has twisted the context of the statement into something entirely different than it is.

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You have your timeline and how this event all mixed up. It was not the Obama's campaign that "twisted" this whole thing or started it.

Hillary started it herself, by making those unfutunate statements, lets be clear on that.

Then The New York post that have a live stream to the inteview, came out with an articles minutes after the interview.

The initial N.Y. Post item read this way: "She is still in the presidential race, she said today, because historically, it makes no sense to quit, and added that, 'Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June,' making an odd comparison between the dead candidate and Barack Obama."

Drudge Report then picked it up from the New Post and spread it to the other news outlets.

After that, Hillary campaign came up with a statement that those interpretation were "inacurrate & outrageous" This was the Hillary campaign that went hard on on of Edward's supporters who while introducing Hillary around Feb. mentioned the assisation of RBK.

It was after the half-hearted comment from the Hillary's camp, that the Obama campaign released their comments stating that "...Statements like these do not have a place in ... politics" To be sincere with you, they went soft on Hillary; there are other hash words they would have rightly used. And yes statements likes these do not and should not have a place in our politics...This is not the 1st, 2nd, or even the 3rd time the Clinton camp have been invoking RBK assasination and it is high time someone call them on it, so that they put a stop to it.

Obama accepted Hillary's explaination and he said it was a careless choice of words, that does not mean he cordole or agree with those comments.

So I believe Obama's position could be something like... I do not cordole what you said, we should not be making comments like these in our national politics, but I accept your explaination and consider it a careless mis-statement that should not repeat itself.

I want to know when they changed "government for the people by the people" to "government for the delegates by the delegates." I agree with Clinton that the race isn't over until all the votes are counted. I am appalled that some delegates are going against the majority of their constituents to back Obama, i.e. Yarmuth of Kentucky & Bryd of West Virginia. I fear for our constitutional rights when the voters of Florida and Michigan are denied a voice in the primary election because their leaders decided to change the day their polls would be open. Now everyone crucifies Clinton for mentioning Robert Kennedy's assassination while he fought for his nomination well into June. What about that "sweetie" faux pas and the "It is only now that I feel proud to be an American" comment. I have a message for the Obama's: Don't call me "sweetie" and I've always been proud to be an American and still am. The fact that Bush Baby has made such a mess of America just shows that we need an experienced leader who can clean up after the Baby. Obama is not that man right now, although he might be after a few more years on the hill. Fight on Senator Clinton!!!!

Jacksmith, I think you got off at the wrong stop. This is planet Earth.

Some here are accusing the Obama's campaign for calling on Hillary on this her comments and they are wrongly saying that Obama was the one that started it and him taking a high road now is not genuine.

I believe these people do not have the full context of these events in perspective.

This news first broken via "Drudge Report" and not from the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign memo read..."These kind of statements DOES NOT have a place in our national politics..."

About an hour after that, Hillary came out and explain her comments and then rendered an apology.

Today, Obama came out and said he accepted Hillary's explaination that she meant no offense by those comments.

I did not see any double speak with the Obama's campaign's first response and Obama's later comments.

His campaign is right to state that comments like this have no place; and they are right to call Hillary on it right on. That does not mean that Obama will not accept an apology from her or understand her explaination. The comments themselves are offensive and I bet you Hillary will not make such a gaffe again.

The Obama campaign are right on target on this. This was what Kerry's campaign lacked in 2004 and he was swift-voted.

There are plenty of other democratic nomination races that went longer than expected.

The RFK is a particularly unsavory example, and the fact that she's referred to it more than once indicates that there is something about that race in particular that she wants us to think about. Hmmm, what could that be?

Or, maybe she's just misspeaking again. Again.

I think I get it now...

Before in her March TIME interview she said,

"Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual."

There are two important points here:

1: Clinton clearly is making a statement regarding the primary contest going through June is not unusual.

2: Clinton has made this statement before, and there appeared to be no "backlash" or misunderstanding. Therefore, I think this was a shock to her that this "vetted" statement, explaining why she will not quit until the primaries are over, was taken so differently this time by the press.

But the voices for her to be VP were getting stronger and this "interpretation" conveniently quieted those voices...

Chris,
Maybe you should report on these two statements both here and when you go on Hardball. And please, don't let them interrupt you so much on Hardball.

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Thank for your post.

I hope the Obama campaign and
flesh-eating Zombies,the media,including Msnbc Oberman and Mathews, will stop eating on the flesh of Hillary and Bill and their own Democratic party members. If the cannibalism doesn't stop soon or the will be nothing left of the party!

I am not at all suprise by Clinton's comment. I am suprise she made is public.

Back in the Indiana primary she send out a flyer with a hunting scope rifle pointing to a picture of Obama's face. And now this (3rd time she's envoke RFK and or Assisination)... She might be trying to subconsciously instruct someone to get rid of Obama.

I used to think Bush was evil, Clinton is in a league of her own...

Obama get out of Puerto Rico you and Bill Traitor Richardson who would not even speak to a Puertorrican. Both are trash and do not care about us! Que viva Hillary and statehood for Puerto Rico!!!!

Obamas only supporter in Puerto Rico is Anibal Acevedo Vila a criminal who just got indicted by a federal grand jury with 19 counts of federal election fraud and tax evation! look it up in google!!! Why is it that all this bad people support Obama? America to the streets lets get Hillary Clinto elected Prsident!!!! Fight Fight Fight! God Bless USA and PR51

She made a gaffe just like when Obama made the bitter remark it has been twisted out of proportion. Barack knows that she was not implying anything sinister. Stop blaming him and stop blaming her. Let the race continue. We will soon have a winner and then all of us true Democrats will get on board help our party win The White House.

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nterestingly, Sen. Obama is often not given due credit for such a dignified and non-judgemental attitude.

Posted by: Greg | May 24, 2008 9:49 PM

barack obama is always willing to take the high road. now THAT'S presidential behaviour!!!

Posted by: nomoreclintons | May 24, 2008 9:38 PM
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Funny how it was your high road candidate who started this mess in the first place by sending out a statement saying comments like this should not be in the campaign. It was his campaign who threw the first stone and started this, not the editors of the newspaper who conducted the interview. It was your candidate's camapign team who thought they could make political headway over a bogus claim against Hillary once again. It was your high road candidate who has twisted the context of the statement into something entirely different than it is.

If he thinks she meant no offense, then why did his campaign start this feeding frenzy in the first place? Funny how the editors of the paper who conducted the interview took no offence or were startled by what she said. So it seems the Obama campaign deliberately played its little strategy of hit the airwaves with a bogus complaint again, let the media run with it, then come out and say he didn't take offence and people can be "careless" getting his little dig in at Hillary and all the negativity towards her that he will revel in over the weekend, meanwhile the original statement had nothing to do with him in the first place. This isn't politics of change and hope. It is the same old dirty politics and sneaky tricks only engaged in by someone who the media have fallen in love with and can't do enough to ensure he is the next President at all costs to their own credibility or any thought to their own journalistic integrity. This isn't the elections of old where reporters report and we decide, but the new theme of they decide their outcome and then inform of us what they think we need to know so we reach their conclusion. No thank you! You are not telling me who is the candidate you want and then we are supposed to fall in line or be called racists, bigots, uneducated, poor white trash like the people of West Virginia have been branded by so many Obama supporters because they didn't vote for him. I will never vote for a candidate whose campaign will hint that because you don't vote for him you must be a racist and he stands quietly by not saying a word.

My Mom always taught me to call a dog a dog and a cat, a cat. No excuse for Hillary! She is who she is and unfortunately nothing will change that!!!

"Excerpt: "#ShortString(As a follow-up to yesterday's post on Hillary Clinton's remarks in South Dakota in which she referenced the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, I was appalled at the number of people who left comments excusing her comments as the result of fatigue or just an unfortunate choice of words. So I did a little research and found out that this was the third time Hillary or a member of her campaign has made similar statements regarding the assassination of a Kennedy. I would hardly call that a momentary lapse in judgement, more like an obsessive thought, in my opinion. On January 8, while introducing Hillary before a speech in New Hampshire, a retired teacher said this:"If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader. He gave us a lot of hope," the retired teacher said. "But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures." How do those of you who claim Hillary was just making a historical reference explain that away? Saying that "people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK"? How can that be construed to be anything other than a direct correlation to Barack Obama? The day after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries Hillary made this comment:"Sometimes you gotta calm people down a little bit. But if you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband did not get the nomination until June of 1992," she said. "I remember tragically when Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process."That is almost word for word what she said yesterday. However she did have the good sense not to include the word "assassination" on that occasion. Still, the inference is clear. Then yesterday Hillary repeated virtually the same thing she said then without omitting the A-word:"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."Following the uproar over her remarks yesterday Hillary issued a lame excuse as an apology that really wasn't an apology:"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever."I don't read the words "I'm sorry" in there anywhere. In my opinion, her intentions were crystal clear, to say that she needs to stay in the race in case some tragedy befalls Barack Obama. The superdelegates need to convene NOW, not May 31 or June 3, TODAY. They need to throw their unanimous support behind Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee and put and end to this process NOW. They must rid their Party of the cancer that is Hillary Clinton before it spreads any further. Not just for the good of the Democratic Party, but for the country as a whole"

IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. And I could go on, and on...

OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o

Why would Barack take the high road? He is making excuses for her foolish remark to light the assasination fire for him to get killed? Talk about facing your enemy head on. Barack don't make excuses for Hilary. She is a grown highly intelligent woman that knows what she is doing. If you as a brother made that statement and referred it the same way. You would be done. She is done there is no excuse for that remark.

DON'T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!

IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn't it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(

You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children's suffering.

With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.

The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton's do very well.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party's back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)

"This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."

The Obama supporters who are giving different meanings to Hillary Clinton's speech when she mentioned "RK assassination" need lessons in English and I thought most of his supporters are "educated". Robert Kennedy, Jr. is the son of the slain candidate but still can accept the speech as what it appeared to be. Any person whether political candidates or not are at risk of this monstrous acts of uncivilized people. I've tried to be rational and patient by avoiding name callings but this is the pitch. You are more of imbeciles than the uneducated and typical-white- working-people who voted for Hillary. You are the instigators of trouble and are the ones who are giving ideas to other people to commit an atrocious act. She is too smart to say that, because you "educated" Obama fans will definitely blame her if something happens. You are all fools to think/believe that Obama has no flaws. We Hillary supporters know that she is not perfect but she can deliver, for the good of the masses. I've watched just 4 debates between the two of them but he can not even give specifics on what he has to do about his "changes" to solve the problems of Americans. It is true what others say that if his speech is not scripted, he fumbles as what he had been doing or he can not give an explanation. What a shame if he becomes the President and he'll not be able to give an intelligent answer to an important question by a foreign dignitaries. She has apologized for not realizing the effect of her speech and yet you are just showing that you are all trouble makers. You want to prove that you are all perfect. Ha Ha Ha. Nobody is. Only GOD IS PERFECT.

From "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/vice-presidential-candidate-clinton.html

Friday, May 23, 2008
A Hypothetical Speech by Vice Presidential Candidate Clinton

Thank you for welcoming me here tonight. I know that we are all proud of Barack, who has risen from humble beginnings to such heights--great heights, perilous heights. As you may know, 30% of serious accidents occur from a height of 10 feet or above.

And so we now set out together on our journey--a journey of hope, a journey of change, and yes, a journey of great demands. For the Presidency places great demands on all of those who hold the office--we have seen how quickly it can age people in the poignant photographs of Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was succeeded by Harry S. Truman while still in office.

In this journey, we will put forward our shared goals--of expanded health coverage, against the unexpected and often fatal illnesses that can rob even those citizens that seem the healthiest of their ability to work, even of their lives. Of protection against unexpected attack on our country, often aimed at those who are placed in the most critical positions to lead this nation. Of conservation of our precious energy resources, without which, even the most powerful of us can wind up stranded in a desert motorcade, without food, water, or wireless reception to contact others for help. Of greater support for culture and the arts--beginning with increased support for our very own Ford's Theatre here in Washington, DC.

Many of you will hear Barack speak later today, from a platform in Norman, Oklahoma--a humble platform, a rickety platform, a platform susceptible to Norman's notoriously strong and unexpected winds. There--god willing--he will tell you of what we hope to accomplish. He will speak of the unity that he and I wish to achieve for this nation, just as Andrew Johnson and Lincoln strove for such national unity. And he will tell you of our wish for change.

Change. An important word. None of us can know the changes that will occur in our lives. None of us can predict what momentous events, what disasters may befall us. A simple damaged left engine turbine stabilizer in a campaign plane. A frayed electrical line dangling, unseen, from a remote access satellite hookup van. A safe, falling, unexpectedly, to the sidewalk from the 8th floor of the Hotel Aldion in Norman, Oklahoma.

And so, we must dedicate ourselves, consecrate ourselves, to reach these most important national objectives today--while we still can. And like Kennedy, Garfield, McKinley, and other Presidents before him, we know that Barack will strive to achieve these goals--in the face of the awesome unknowns that lay before us all.

Thank you.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/vice-presidential-candidate-clinton.html

The Democratic Party elders and super-delegates should read bloggers' posts to understand why they MUST step in now to end the race. The Clintons have successfully incited their supporters and divided the party and nation into hate-Obama and hate-Clinton factions. Hillary's negative polls must be somewhere close to Bush's--she is clearly not electable. But she is rapidly making Obama perhaps not electable either--what with all the s**t she is throwing at him--the race and gender accusations, the fear-mongering, the assassination threat (to be read as not-so-hidden appeal to someone's evil side), etc. Lady Hillary Macbeth must be led out of the stage before blood runs on her hands. It may even now be too late.

From "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/vice-presidential-candidate-clinton.html

Friday, May 23, 2008
A Hypothetical Speech by Vice Presidential Candidate Clinton

Thank you for welcoming me here tonight. I know that we are all proud of Barack, who has risen from humble beginnings to such heights--great heights, perilous heights. As you may know, 30% of serious accidents occur from a height of 10 feet or above.

And so we now set out together on our journey--a journey of hope, a journey of change, and yes, a journey of great demands. For the Presidency places great demands on all of those who hold the office--we have seen how quickly it can age people in the poignant photographs of Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was succeeded by Harry S. Truman while still in office.

In this journey, we will put forward our shared goals--of expanded health coverage, against the unexpected and often fatal illnesses that can rob even those citizens that seem the healthiest of their ability to work, even of their lives. Of protection against unexpected attack on our country, often aimed at those who are placed in the most critical positions to lead this nation. Of conservation of our precious energy resources, without which, even the most powerful of us can wind up stranded in a desert motorcade, without food, water, or wireless reception to contact others for help. Of greater support for culture and the arts--beginning with increased support for our very own Ford's Theatre here in Washington, DC.

Many of you will hear Barack speak later today, from a platform in Norman, Oklahoma--a humble platform, a rickety platform, a platform susceptible to Norman's notoriously strong and unexpected winds. There--god willing--he will tell you of what we hope to accomplish. He will speak of the unity that he and I wish to achieve for this nation, just as Andrew Johnson and Lincoln strove for such national unity. And he will tell you of our wish for change.

Change. An important word. None of us can know the changes that will occur in our lives. None of us can predict what momentous events, what disasters may befall us. A simple damaged left engine turbine stabilizer in a campaign plane. A frayed electrical line dangling, unseen, from a remote access satellite hookup van. A safe, falling, unexpectedly, to the sidewalk from the 8th floor of the Hotel Aldion in Norman, Oklahoma.

And so, we must dedicate ourselves, consecrate ourselves, to reach these most important national objectives today--wh